* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. [00:00:01] THIS IS MAYOR PRO TEM ROULIS. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE MEETING. UM, I CALLED [1. CALL TO ORDER] THE MEETING TO ORDER AT FIVE 30 AND STATE THAT THE NOTICE OF THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS DULY POSTED MAYOR ROBIN ALLEN KENT IS ABSENT TODAY. SO WE WILL START WITH ROLL CALL, SEE SECRETARY FINANCIAL SERVICES. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE [2.(a) Discuss the proposed 2021 bond election measures, process, and citizen committee. (Proposed presenter: Assistant City Manager Bill Atkinson)] IT'S PROPOSED 2021 MON ELECTION MEASURES PROCESS AND ASSISTANT COMMITTEE. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021 DURING THE CALENDAR RETREAT, MARCH 20TH, STAFF FUNDING FOR THE PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IN ORDER TO HAVE BOND ELECTION STAFF REVIEWED WITH COUNCIL, THE TIMELINE AND PROCESS, THE FIRST STEP IN THIS PROCESS FOR CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU SO WISH IS TO APPOINT A ASSISTANCE BOND COMMITTEE, UH, THIS, UH, COUNTS FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, UH, MOST RECENTLY AND, UH, 2014, UH, IN THE 2014 BOND ELECTION, THAT IS WE, UH, COUNCIL IN 2013. UH, SEPTEMBER OF THAT YEAR REQUESTED THAT EACH DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER MAKE THREE APPOINTMENTS IN EACH OF THE FOUR AT-LARGE REPRESENTATIVES, EACH MAKE FOUR APPOINTMENTS, AND THERE WILL BE TWO EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS CONSISTING OF ONE, ONE FROM THE PARK BOARD, AND ONE FROM THE PLAINS ZONING COMMISSION FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF 24 MEMBERS. PLUS THE TWO EX OFFICIO MEMBERS, UH, EQUALING 26 MEMBERS. AND THAT'S HOW THEY HAD DONE IN THE PAST. AND JUST FOR CLARITY, THE REASON FOR THE EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS IS THAT, UH, AS THEN, UH, THIS TIME THERE WOULD ALSO BE RECOMMENDATION OF SOME, UH, PARK PROGRAM OR PARK, UH, PROJECTS, AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH GOES IN LINE WITH, WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOES, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. SO, UH, WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO YOU AS TO HOW THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, AND ALSO, UH, IF WE COULD GO TO THE, UH, PRESENTATION, THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, WHAT WE HAVE, UH, LOOKED AT DOING AND RECOMMENDED WAS THAT, UH, YOU HAVE APPOINTMENTS, UH, AT THE REGULAR MEETING ON APRIL 19TH, WHICH IS YOUR NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEK. UH, WE DO HAVE SOME BUILT-IN FLEXIBILITY IN THE SCHEDULE. UH, THE KEY KEY THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO OR THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO DO, UH, REALLY HINGES AROUND CALLING THE ELECTION. AND SO THAT'S THE LATEST THAT WAY SHE COULD CALL AN ELECTION WOULD BE AUGUST 16TH. UH, PREFERABLY YOU'D [00:05:01] WANT TO DO IT, UH, ON AUGUST 2ND, WHICH WOULD BE THEIR FIRST REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING IN AUGUST. AND SO BASED ON THAT AND TO GIVE ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY, UH, BUILT THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS THE SCHEDULE GOES FOR APPOINTMENT, AND THEN THE COMMITTEE TO MEET IT'S PERCEIVED FIT, UH, INFORMATION FROM STAFF WITH REGARD TO, UH, WHAT MUNICIPAL BONDING IS, UH, WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND HOW IT'S DONE. UH, ALSO TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE, TRANSPORTATION, AND, UH, THE PMP, THE PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, UH, EVALUATION, AND THEN, UH, THAT WE HAVE BUILT TWO DAYS OR TWO MEETINGS AND WISH THEY COULD DO THAT. UH, THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT. AND THEN THE NEXT SESSION OF, UH, GUIDELINES WOULD BE TO HAVE THOSE COMING IN FOR THE PARKS FACILITIES, AS WELL AS FACILITY NEEDS, AS YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE REVIEWED WITH YOU, WE HAVE SILLY NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AND WE WOULD ABLE TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION FROM THAT, UH, THAT STUDY TO THIS COMMITTEE, THEN THAT CITIZENS COMMITTEE WOULD, UH, UH, HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE, UH, PRESENT THIS INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOURSELVES AND BE THERE. AND, UH, WE'D BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, HAVE, UH, BASICALLY, UH, A WALK AROUND TYPE PRESENTATION. AND, UH, THEN THE BOND ME, UH, ME PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS, UH, AND THEN MAKE RECOMMENDATION WITH RESPECT TO THE AMOUNT, UH, AND THE PROJECTS TO BE, UM, UM, FORWARDED COUNSEL COUNSEL COULD THEN DELIBERATE ON IT FOR, UH, UH, JULY. AND, UH, AS I SAID, THEN YOU HAVE THAT TIME TO COME BACK EITHER AUGUST 2ND OR AS LATE AS THE 16TH TO, UH, CALL THE ELECTION, WHICH WOULD TAKE PLACE ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021. AND, UH, BETWEEN THAT TIME AND THE ELECTION, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC, UH, AS THE ELECTION NEARS. SO, UH, I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT. AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, BUT WE WERE RECOMMENDING, UH, A PROCESS AND WE'LL TAKE YOUR GUIDANCE. THANK YOU, BILL. IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND, SECOND, COUNCILMAN. ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION. UM, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE TIMELINES. UH, AND I NOTICED OF COURSE THAT IT SAID THAT WE WOULD BE APPOINTING COMMITTEE MEMBERS AT OUR, UH, COUNCIL MEETING THAT IS SLATED FOR NEXT MONDAY. SO HOW ARE WE TO APPOINT THAT COMMITTEE AT THE NEXT MEETING? WHEN, I MEAN, HAVE WE SOLICITED APPLICATIONS OR WE HAVE NOT WORKED BASED ON, SORRY. UM, WE HAVE NOT. AND, UM, WE WERE GOING TO SEE, UH, FEEDBACK. AND WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS AT THE, UM, AT THE, UH, STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING, UH, THIS INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY IN HERE A WEEK OR TWO, WHERE WE COULD, UH, IF YOU DECIDE TONIGHT HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT, THAT WE COULD, UH, PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT AND SEEK A FEEDBACK FOR YOU. AND, UM, AGAIN, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PLAYING IN THIS FOR YOU. SO CAN YOU PLEASE HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THIS BOND COMMITTEE OR SUPPOSEDLY, UH, HOW MANY WE HAVE SLATED AND THEN WHO, WHO HAD CONSISTS OF? TOTALLY. SO THE ONLY INFORMATION THAT I'M PROVIDING IS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY IN 2014. AND THAT WAS THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME HAD, UH, UH, THREE, UH, SPEECH DISTRICT MEMBER. SO, UH, ABC AND D WOULD MAKE CAREER APPOINTMENTS. EACH OF THE FOUR AT LARGE REPRESENTATIVES. UH, THE TWO WOULD, UH, TO BY LARGE POSITIONS WOULD MAKE FOUR IN EACH OF THE FOUR, EXCUSE ME, AND THE MAYOR. SO THAT WOULD BE 12 AND THEN FOUR APPOINTMENTS, UH, MAKE THEREFOR APPOINTMENTS. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE TO EX OFFICIO MEMBERS BEING IN THE PARK BOARD AND PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. AND AGAIN, THIS WAS, UH, WE HAD MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY. THEY CHANGED IT UP SOMEWHAT, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY ENDED UP WITH AT THAT TIME. OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, APRIL 19TH IS NOT A REALISTIC DATE. UH, I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA MEET THAT, THAT DATE, UH, TO APPOINT A BOND COMMITTEE, BUT I'M FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT A PROCESS, UH, WITH MY, I MEAN, I'M JUST SPEAKING TO MY COLLEAGUES NOW, UM, A PROCESS AS TO HOW WE WANT TO GET THIS DONE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO KIND OF MOVE PRETTY EXPEDITIOUSLY. [00:10:02] UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW, I MEAN, WE CAN'T DO THIS BY NEXT NEXT MONDAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, THIS WAS A CONSTANT EMORY. UH, I WOULD AGREE THAT, UH, THAT TIME, UH, IS, UH, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH, I SEE, UH, CONTACTING WHOEVER WE, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND I'LL CONTACT WHOEVER I MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER TO, UH, TO GET THEIR BUY-IN THAT THEY WANT TO, UM, UH, TO PARTICIPATE. UH, AND, UH, I THINK WE NEED SOMETHING THAT, UH, SOME TALKING POINTS, SO THAT WILL CONTACT WHOEVER WE THINK MIGHT BE A, A POTENTIAL, UH, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH, UH, WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THEM AND KIND OF LAY OUT SOME OF THE TIMELINES ALSO. SO I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE THAT, UH, THE 19TH IS, UH, IS TOO QUICK AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT ANOTHER DATE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT, AND I AGREE ALSO THAT WE SHOULD GO FORWARD. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES, DO YOU ALL FEEL THAT WE NEED 22 MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE? I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF, UH, OF THE, OF THE, UH, THE VARIOUS DISTRICTS AND, OR THE CITY. SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A HEALTHY NUMBER, UM, YOU KNOW, THREE, THREE, THREE, THREE, AND THEN YOU GUYS, UH, WOULD BE, UH, APPOINTING OR SELECTED FOR AT LARGE. UH, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE IT AS A PROBLEM. THIS COUNCIL, WOMAN STERLING. I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE OF, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING A BOND, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ALL HANDS ON DECK. SO YOU WOULD NEED AS MANY AS I THINK 22 IS PROBABLY A GOOD NUMBER. YEAH. THIS MAYOR PRO TEM RULES. IT SEEMS EXCESSIVE, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T MAKE THE MEETINGS. AND SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE A PRETTY GOOD, UM, ATTENDANCE, IF YOU WILL. UM, BILL, WE, WE WE'VE HAD PRETTY GOOD SUCCESS WITH THIS COUNT IN THE PAST. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, I HAD A QUESTION OVER THE WEEKEND, A RESIDENCE SOMEWHAT INTERESTED IN, THEY WERE ASKING, WOULD THESE MEETINGS BE IN PERSON AND OR ZOOM, OBVIOUSLY IN PERSON WILL PROBABLY BE A LOT MORE PRODUCTIVE, BUT HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A MEETING AND WE CAN TAKE THE LEAD FROM THERE AND WITH THE OTHER BOARDS AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH. UH, JUNE 10TH AND I, AND I KINDA AGREE WITH YOU MAY HAVE PROTEIN, UH, CITY BOND COMMITTEE HOSTS, OPEN HOUSE, PUBLIC, AND AUDIT TO RECEIVE. AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE NOT SURE WHAT THE CLIMATE IS GONNA BE IN JUNE, BUT CERTAINLY WE WANT TO HAVE, UH, AT LEAST A PLAN B FOR AN OPEN HOUSE OR HOW WE DISSEMINATE THE INFORMATION. AND THIS IS THE COUNCIL. AND I WERE TALKING HER WITH COUNSEL KNOW, DURING OUR EXCRETION SPOKE ABOUT, UM, COLLABORATING WITH THE HOA, UM, COMMUNICATION AND THE HOA REPRESENTATIVES DISSEMINATE THAT INFORMATION TO THOSE WHO WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND THAT, UM, OPEN HOUSE ORANGES THAT AREN'T THAT ACTIVE, BUT WHAT NEW AVENUES HAVE WE CHOSEN? WHO PRETTY MUCH DISSEMINATE THIS INFORMATION, BECAUSE WHAT I DO NOT WANT IT TO BE, UM, IS THIS HOW THE BOND ON THAT BOND ELECTION, UM, THESE CHARTER AMENDMENTS, HOW THEY'VE BEEN SENT OUT, UM, AND A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE CALLING UNAWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I JUST WANT THEM TO FEEL EDUCATED AND FEEL AS IF THEY ARE AWARE OF THE DECISIONS THAT THEY'RE VOTING ON. THAT WAS A LOT, BUT MY QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BRING OUT THAT INFORMATION, AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING THE OPEN HOUSE ON ONE OCCASION, MAYBE I CAN ADD TO THAT. IT IS, UH, UH, CAN, CAN WE CONSIDER OPENING, UH, THOSE MEETINGS UP TO, UH, THE ZOOM? SO IF KENNETH, UH, CITIZENS WANTED TO, UH, AT LEAST GET, UH, YOU KNOW, AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMITTEE, THEN HAVE SOME ACCESS TO THAT. YEAH. [00:15:01] YEAH. UH, I SUGGEST THAT WE, UH, MOVE THAT DATE FOR APPOINTMENTS TO MAY 3RD. AND THEN WE ALSO TO, UH, FROM AN ADVERTISER STANDPOINT, UH, WE MARKETED ALL OF OUR MEDIANS, CLEARLY PUTTING THE SIDES UP ON THE ROADS. WE'VE HAD VERY GOOD RESPONSE TO DOING THAT WHEN YOU PUT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NOTIFICATION SIZE UP. SO WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'LL GIVE US, UH, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR DOING THAT. AND THEN, UH, WE SCHEDULE THE APPOINTMENTS FOR THE 3RD OF MAY AND THEN, UH, UH, AND THEN WE, WE ADJUST THE SCHEDULE BACK AND THEN COME BACK WITH Y'ALL WITH WHAT'S THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE THAT, THAT, UH, WOULD BE INCORPORATED COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY WAS STATING, UM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG FLUID, BUT YOU WERE ALSO STATING ABOUT POSSIBLY RUNNING A LIVE VIDEO OF THOSE MEETINGS SO PEOPLE CAN TUNE IN PERHAPS AND LISTEN, WAS THAT WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE? COUNCILOR EMORY. YEAH. YEAH. AND WE CAN, WE CAN DO BOTH, UH, WE CAN HAVE IT IN PERSON OVER AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND ALSO TO HAVE, UH, UH, THE CAPABILITY TO DO ZOOM AS WELL, BUT WEBEX, YEAH, YEAH, OURS, UH, WE CAN DO OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS. UH, IF YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE, UH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE, UH, SOME VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, LIKE WE'VE DONE BEFORE, UH, DO SOME SPOTLIGHTS ALSO TO INCLUDE IT IN THEIR NEWSLETTER. UH, AND, UH, IT JUST KINDA HIT ALL OF OUR MEDIUMS THAT WE HAVE, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHERWISE, AND THEN WE CAN ALSO DO A PRESS RELEASE, UH, JUST SO THAT WE, UH, NOTIFY THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. UH, AND, UH, AND THEN WE, WE PLACED THE SIGNATURE SIGNS UP SO THAT, UH, FOLKS ALSO KNOW, UH, THAT WAY, UH, WE'VE HAD A REALLY HIGH RESPONSE, UH, DIFFERENCE WHEN WE PUT THE SIDE OF JOB, UH, MARQUIS SIDE OF JOB. SO WE CAN, WE CAN DO ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I'M JUST PUTTING THIS OUT THERE. I OFTENTIMES HEAR OF VARIOUS MEETINGS OR DID NOT GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND, UM, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES COMPLAIN, UH, OR, OR MAKE THAT KNOWN. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY, VERY BIG TICKET ITEMS AT CITIZENS WE CONSIDER, UH, AND THEY MAY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND EVERYBODY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT ON THAT THURSDAY. AND WE CONSIDER HAVING MULTIPLE OPEN HOUSES INSTEAD OF JUST ONE. YES, SIR. UH, STACY, YOU DON'T LIE. UH, I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS ADD IN ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE OPEN HOUSES, BUT ALSO TOO, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO NOT JUST DO THE OPEN HOUSE, UH, IN PERSON, BUT ALSO TO, TO ALSO HAVE IT SO THAT FOLKS CAN ALSO LOG IN BY, UH, UH, ZOOM AS WELL. I JUST FEEL LIKE THE MORE THAN NO, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO LOSE YOUR THOUGHT. I JUST FEEL LIKE THE MORE THE MERRIER, I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ITEM. THESE ARE BOND ELECTIONS ARE NOT THINGS THAT HAPPEN EVERY YEAR. THEY HAPPEN, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY SO OFTEN. UH, AND WHEN THEY DO, THEY ARE THINGS THAT IMPACT THE CITIZENS. NO, NOT SHORT SHORT-TERM, BUT LONG-TERM, AND I WANT EVERYONE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH RECEIVING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS THEY CAN, THAT THEY CAN SQUEEZE THE FRUIT AND KICK THE TIRES, ASK THEIR QUESTIONS, AND WE CAN, WE CAN PRESENT IT IN A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SHOW THAT WE DID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, WE DISSEMINATED THIS INFORMATION. THEY GAVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK, PARTICIPATE. THERE'S PROS AND CONS, AND EVERYBODY WAS EDUCATED, EQUIPPED, AND EMPOWERED TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN THEY GO INTO THAT VOTING BOOTH. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD AND CANCEL OR WHEREVER IT IS, ADD ON. UM, I KNOW WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT PROVIDING ALL KINDS OF MARKETING TACTICS TO GET THIS [00:20:01] OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. ALSO, I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE LIKE A FAQ OUT JUST IN CASE SOMEONE IS NOT ABLE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE AT THE TIME. THEY CAN JUST PULL UP THE FACTS AND, UM, ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AT THAT MOMENT. SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BRING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE RESIDENTS. YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, MULTIPLE, UH, UH, BOND MEETINGS, UH, OPEN, OPEN HOUSE, LET'S ALSO CONSIDER HAVING IT ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF, OF THE MISSOURI CITY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOING SOMETHING DOWN ON, UH, UH, THE, UH, UH, UH, NORTH SIDE AND THEN SOMETHING MAYBE OUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UH, SO THAT, UH, WE MAKE IT AS CONVENIENT AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND AND NOT HAVE TO, UH, COME FROM A FAIRLY LONG DISTANCES TO GET TO THE, UH, UH, TO THE MEETING PLACE. SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PLACES, UH, IN, UH, LAKE OLYMPIA THAT, UH, WOULD BE AVAILABLE, UH, CREEK MIGHT BE. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF, I THINK, DIFFERENT OPTIONS, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO SPREADING OUT THE LOCATION OF THOSE, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM IN PERSON COUNSELING OR STERLING, NO COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, UH, UM, SORRY, UH, EMORY, UH, GAVE HIM MY FENDER. SO THAT'S BASICALLY, WE JUST NEED TO FLOOD IT WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION CAUSE THERE'S COUNCIL MEMBER BONNIE MENTIONED, UH, WE'VE GOT TO GET WE'VE. THIS IS SERIOUS. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UPON ELECTION IN ONE WAY IT'S NOT FAST OR FAIL IS WE DON'T GET THE INFORMATION. SOME LIKE FLOOD THE INFORMATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE, UM, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT TO AMEND THAT A LITTLE BIT TO INCLUDE DATES AND AGREE ON NUMBERS AND WHATNOT. SO CAN I GET, UH, ANOTHER MOTION? THEY DON'T, WELL, MAYBE I'M WRONG. I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO AMEND WITH DATES. I JUST THINK THAT WE, WE CAN WORK ON THE BACK END, I GUESS, ON THE LOGISTICS RIGHT. DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET EVERYBODY BROUGHT UP SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE POINTS WERE CARRIED THROUGH THE EMOTION. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOOD TO GO WITH YOUR MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER MONI. SO, UM, I WILL NOW CONDUCT A ROLL CALL VOTE. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS, COUNCIL MEMBER, KLAUSER COUNCIL MEMBER, CLASSER COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BONEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY. YES. IT'S A YES FOR ME. AND I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLOUDS. ARE YOU ON? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. IN A BAD SPOT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MARIA. YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE ACCOUNT? YES, SIR. ONE LAST THING I WANTED TO GO BACK TO, UH, AND I SORT OF SAID THIS EARLIER. I APOLOGIZE, BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY MENTIONED, AND I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE THAT, UH, BILL, UH, IN THAT WE NEED, UH, A, UH, SOME TALKING POINTS, UH, IN SOME INFORMATION FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SOLICIT FOR THE COMMITTEE. UH, AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL ALSO. I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU COULD SEND AND MAYBE WE ALREADY RECEIVED IT, AND IF WE DID MY APOLOGIES, I DON'T RECALL SAYING IT IF THE DETAILS THAT THE BOND COMMITTEE AND KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED AND ALL OF THAT. SO I CAN, AT LEAST FOR ME, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AND AWARE OF WHAT TOOK PLACE AND YOU KNOW, WHO ALL WAS A PART OF IT POTENTIALLY. WE COULDN'T CATCH IT. THE LAST PART, WOULD YOU SAY? OH, I, I WAS SIMPLY SAYING, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO WAS A PART OF THE COMMITTEE IN 2014 AND KIND OF THE DETAILS OF THE BOND COMMITTEE IN 2014, KIND OF WHAT IT ENTAILED. AND [00:25:01] SO THAT I I'M FULLY AWARE OF WHAT TOOK PLACE IN THE PAST, SO I DON'T WANT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. OKAY. WE'LL MAKE SURE IT GETS DROPPED IN YOUR BOX. SO YOU HAVE SENIOR MANAGER OR ASSISTANT MANAGER BILL. ARE YOU ASKING THE QUESTION JUST FOR CLARITY? ONE, MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND. WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO YOU FOR APPOINTMENT ON MAY 1ST, CORRECT? LOTS OF MARKETING MEDIA, ZOOM, STREAM, MCTV. FAQ'S DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, ALL THAT FUN STUFF. YEP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. UH, ITEM TO BE, [2.(b) Discuss a request for a working relationship between the City of Missouri City and the Fort Bend Houston Super Neighborhood No. 41 Council. (Proposed presenter: City Attorney E. Joyce Iyamu)] UH, TO DISCUSS EVERY REQUEST FOR A WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY AND THE FORT BAND AND THE HOUSTON SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 41. THERE'S A PRESENTATION BY XI ATTORNEY , UH, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS ITEM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS ITEM RELATES TO YOUR STRATEGIC GOALS. NUMBER FOUR, DEVELOPING PERFORMANCE CITY TEAM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OVERVIEW OF A REQUEST THAT WAS RECEIVED BY SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD. NUMBER 41. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE FIRST QUESTION, YOU'RE PROBABLY ASKING YOURSELF THIS, WHAT IS THIS DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, A SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S AN ENTITY THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY CREATED BY THE OF HOUSTON A FEW YEARS AGO TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES TO WORK TOGETHER AND TO IDENTIFY AND PRIORITIZE AND ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THOSE COMMUNITIES. THESE SUPER NEIGHBORHOODS OR MULTIPLE SUPER NEIGHBORHOODS COME TOGETHER TO PERFORM A SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL, WHICH SERVES AS A FORUM FOR THOSE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO DISCUSS ISSUES AND PROVIDE INPUT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE MAYOR, UH, RECEIVED THE REQUEST FROM FORFEND HOUSTON, SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE 41. THAT SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, INCLUDES PORTIONS OF FAR SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST HOUSTON. IT EXTENDS INTO, UH, AS RECENTLY AS 2018, THEY, IF THEY AMENDED THEIR BYLAWS TO EXTEND INTO MISSOURI CITY TO INCLUDE HUNTER GLEN AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG THE TEXAS PARKWAY CORRIDOR THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN FORT BEND COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER TWO. SO PRIOR TO 2018 WAS VERY CITY WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER TWO 2018, THE COUNCIL AMENDED ITS BYLAWS TO INCLUDE PORTIONS OF MISSOURI CITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. UH, SO YOUR QUESTION IS PROBABLY YOUR NEXT QUESTION IS PROBABLY WHAT IS CYNTHIA INVOLVEMENT OF THE VERY CITY RESIDENTS? I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SPEAK TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL WHO INFORMED ME THAT I'M A VERY CITY RESIDENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, A LONG TEXAS PARKWAY RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD. HE WAS NOT AWARE OF SPECIFIC PARTICIPATION OF MISSOURI CITY RESIDENTS IN THE STATE SUPER NEIGHBOR'S SIDE, BUT HE WAS ABLE TO, UM, LET ME KNOW THAT SEVERAL MISSOURI CITY RESIDENTS ARE ON THE DISTRIBUTION LIST FOR THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE PAST. HE'S COMMUNICATED WITH FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS. I DON'T MISS AND COUNCIL MEMBER AS WELL AS A FORMER MAYOR FOR, SINCE I PLEASE BE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL IS ASKING FOR A WORKING NON-BINDING RELATIONSHIP TO SHARE THE 36 PRECEDENT CONCERNS WITH THE CITY. SO THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY ASKING TO ACT AS A LIAISON BETWEEN MISSOURI CITY AND THOSE HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND PARTS OF A CERTAIN PARTS OF FORT BEND COUNTY PRECINCT TO INCLUDING THE HUNTER SPLINE NEIGHBORHOODS AND FALL GREEN WEST. UM, I, AS I MENTIONED, I HAVE ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD WHO MADE THE REQUEST, THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL WHO MADE THE REQUEST. AND I DID HAVE A VERY DELIGHTFUL, A LIVELY CONVERSATION WITH HIM ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY AND THE CITY OF HOUSTON. AS YOU ALL KNOW, MAJORITY CITY IS A MUCH SMALLER CITY. UM, [00:30:01] RESIDENTS HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO MISSOURI CITY VIA THE HOA REPRESENTATIVE, UH, OUT OF COMMUNICATION. UH, AND KELLY BOUGHT I'M ONE LAST TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE WE ARE A VERY CITY IS A MUCH SMALLER CITY. THEREFORE THERE'S A LOT LESS ISSUES WITH COVERAGE. SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU MENTIONED INCLUDED THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN, UH, RELATED TO AIR QUALITY SPECIFICALLY AT THAT AREA, THAT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT OUTSIDE THE 30 CITY OF CITY LIMITS, UH, AT BLUE RIDGE AND FM 20 2234 ASSESSES PARKWAY. HE ALSO MENTIONED, UH, BRINGING QUALITY GROCERY STORES TO THE AREA, AS WELL AS HAVING PANIC ATTACKS WITH THE CITY OF HOUSTON, AS IT RELATES TO STREET RECONSTRUCTION. AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, THIS CITY OF MISSOURI CITY HAS A PROCESS IN PLACE, THE REQUEST PROCESS FOR REQUEST FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS, AND ALSO IT SYSTEMS TO ANALYZE AND ASSESS THE NEED FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS. THEREFORE, AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE NEEDS OF THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL VERSUS MISSOURI CITY, AND ALSO THE RESOURCES, UH, FOR CITY OF HOUSTON VERSUS THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED TO THE PDI COMMITTEE A WHILE AGO, AND THEY DID, UM, THEY DIDN'T TAKE ACTION ON IT, BUT THEY DID WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS FORWARDED TO ALL OF COUNCIL, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, AND THAT THE REQUEST WAS MADE, UM, AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE ON THE LINE AS WELL AS IF I'VE MISSED ANYTHING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO HOP IN OR ASK QUESTIONS. BUT AT THIS TIME THERE'S NO ACTION THAT IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED, BUT IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO SO, BUT THERE'S NOTHING REQUIRED AT THE FENCE. UM, THIS COUNCIL MEMBER BONEY, UH, THIS ITEM DID COME BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE, UH, AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE A BIT OF INFORMATION AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS SOMEONE, UM, THAT IS SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO GO FIRST AND JOYCE OR SHARED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I NEED TO SHARE ON THIS. UM, IT CAN GO EITHER WAY. UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE INDIVIDUAL FIRST, YOU CAN, I MEAN, COUNCIL CAN VOTE. WE DO THAT. IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU. UM, SO, SO BASICALLY, UH, I HAD SPOKEN WITH, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE CONNECTED WITH, UH, FOR VINCE OVER NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE IN THE MIDST OF TRANSITIONING, UH, THEIR LEADERSHIP AND THEY HAVE UPCOMING ELECTIONS. SO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO REACHED OUT TO THE CITY, UH, REGARDING THIS, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN SOME TIME, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. THEY'RE NO LONGER PRESIDENT. AND SO I THINK IT A, MAY BE A MOOT CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT. CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE FULL WHEEL OF THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SECOND THING, AND I THINK MOST IMPORTANT, UH, IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, FOR BEING SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ONE IS THERE'S A, A LARGER, UH, GOVERNING BODY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN ARBITRARILY COME TO, UH, A CITY LIKE OURS TO MAKE THIS REQUEST. AND SO, UM, FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK INTO, UH, WHETHER THEY CAN ACT ON BEHALF, UH, UH, OF COMING TO THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY TO MAKE THIS REQUEST WITHOUT IT BEING APPROVED BY THAT, THAT GOVERNING ENTITY. UH, BUT NONETHELESS, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT IT WAS ALWAYS MY POSITION THAT THIS ORGANIZATION WAS CREATED BY THE CITY OF HOUSTON. AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, MISSOURI CITY RESIDENTS CAN BE A PART OF ANY ORGANIZATION THAT THEY WANT TO, BUT THE INTEREST OF THE CITY OF HOUSTON, UH, IN THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN I KNOW THAT I HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNCIL WOMAN IN DISTRICT K AND HOUSTON, UH, WHO IS OUR, MY NEIGHBORING DISTRICT. AND WE ALWAYS WORK COLLABORATIVELY ON ISSUES THAT IMPACT THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY AND THE CITY OF HOUSTON COLLABORATIVELY. UH, AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL, BUT, UH, IT WAS OUR OPINION IN THAT, WELL, AT LEAST MINE IN THAT, IN THAT GROUP. AND I GOT THE SENSE FROM OTHER COLLEAGUES THAT WE WERE NOT WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THEM TO, TO SHARE IF THEY SO CHOOSE. IF I MAY COMMENT REALLY QUICKLY, COUNCILMEMBER, THIS IS THE CHOICE. THE REQUEST ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS, UH, ON TRANSITIONING OUT OF THAT [00:35:01] ROLE, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, A PRESIDENT OF AN ENTITY LIKE THAT DOES USUALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE, UM, DIFFERENT REQUESTS. RIGHT. I, I UNDERSTAND I'M JUST SAYING, AS IT RELATES TO THAT PARTICULAR REQUEST OR THAT PARTICULAR ASS, I'M NOT SURE IF THE GOVERNING ENTITY THAT OVERSEES THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOODS AUTHORIZE THAT, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU ARE AWARE OF WHETHER THEY HAD OR HAD NOT, THEN, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M NOT SURE BASED OFF OF MY CONVERSATIONS AND WHAT I'VE KIND OF RESEARCHED THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN THAT APPROVAL AUTHORITY, THAT GROUP IN HIM AS PRESIDENT OR WHOEVER'S PRESIDENT OR WHOEVER MADE DECISION TO ACT IN THAT CAPACITY. BUT I'M NOT A LEGAL SCHOLAR, BUT I HEARD, AND, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THEIR SPECIFIC AUTHORIZATION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN JUST TELL YOU GENERALLY SPEAKING UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL LAW IN TEXAS, GENERALLY, A PERSON WHO HOLDS THAT TITLE GENERALLY HAS THAT AUTHORITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW OF ANY SPECIFIC AUTHORIZATION FROM THIS COUNCIL FOR THE REQUESTS. OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST TO SPEAK ON INTG, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. AND WE HAVE A SPEAKER JACQUELINE PIPKIN, THREE MINUTES, AND THE CITY SECRETARY WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THOSE THREE MINUTES ARE UP. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY AND BE AWARE OF REGARDING HOUSTON COUNTY HOUSTON, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO 41 AND THAT'S AND BONNIE SAID, THIS IS A TRANSITION PERIOD FOR CORBIN COUNTY HOUSTON, SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD 41. AND I STILL HAVE THAT TO MAKE A COMMUNITY EFFORT IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS PART IS NOT AS SUPPORT BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN A GOOD DISCUSSION. UM, I CAN NOT TELL YOU THAT LEGAL AUTHORIZATION, BUT ANYTIME A COLLABORATION IS MADE, IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE GENERAL FUND. AND THAT HAS NOT DONE. I WAS ONLY MADE AWARE OF MEETING TODAY BECAUSE I'M WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHO BROUGHT UP THIS MEETING, A PERSON WHO WAS LEAVING THE OFFICE FRIDAY, PUT APPELLATION ON THEIR WAY OUT AND, UM, BODY AWARE OF, UM, MEETING WITH MEETING WITH SUPRA, MISSOURI CITY. UH, YES, THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE REALLY CLOSEST TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 41. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 41, UH, A LOT OF THINGS THAT AFFECT BOTH OF THOSE TWO , BUT BEFORE WE CAN EXACTLY MAKE A COLLABORATION HAVE MORE DISCUSSION, UM, BECAUSE IT WOULD INVOLVE, UM, WHAT DECISIONS ARE MORE PEOPLE SPEAKING ON IT THAN ONE PERSON. AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT WE SHARE SOME OF THE SAME INTERESTS AND ARE WILLING TO TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT IT, AT LEAST THE ULTIMATE DOOR. I JUST THINK THAT THIS TIME IS NOT THE TIME, UM, HAVING AN ELECTION. AND DURING THAT TIME, I THINK AFTER THE ELECTION ALSO, I AM NOT RUNNING INTERESTS AS OFFICERS, AS A MEMBER, BUT NO ONE, NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, TO SET UP AN AGREEMENT WITH OUT THE CONSENSUS OF THE GENERAL COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S MY OPINION. I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. UM, I AGREE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME COLLABORATION POSSIBLE, BUT NO ONE PEOPLE, ONE FOR THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. PISTONS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AMONGST COUNCIL MEMBERS? UM, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON, UM, WHAT WE DISCUSSED DURING OUR COMMITTEE. I THINK IT WAS PRETTY MUCH LIKE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BOUNTY STATED THAT BASICALLY WE WERE MAKING A DECISION OFF OF WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO US. SO, UM, ONCE THAT TIME IS, UM, AVAILABLE, IF WE WERE TO HAVE LIKE A MORE DETAILED CONVERSATION, I'M WILLING TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER IT AND, UM, JUST KIND OF HEAR EACH OTHER OUT. SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON MS. PICKINS AND GIVING US A BROADER INSIGHT, AS WELL AS YOUR COMMENTS. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, VONNIE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? [2.(c) Discuss a proposed ordinance establishing a council notification process for significant incidents. (Proposed presenter: City Attorney E. Joyce Iyamu)] [00:40:02] OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO C UM, DISCUSS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE, ESTABLISHING A COUNCIL NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS AND, UH, CITY ATTORNEY WAS PRESENT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR, UH, PROTON AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING, UM, ON OR ABOUT MARCH 15TH AND APRIL 5TH, 2021. THIS IS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ESTABLISH A SPECIFIC TIMELINE FOR APPOINTED OFFICIALS TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH INFORMATION REGARDING THE INCIDENT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, PURSUANT TO THE CITY'S PERSONNEL POLICY, YOU HAVE INSTITUTED A REQUIREMENT BY WHICH ACQUAINTED OFFICIALS ARE TO NOTIFY THE MAYOR, UH, WITHIN 24 HOURS AND COUNCIL BY THE NEXT POST COUNCIL MEETING OF ANY INCIDENTS THAT RELATE TO PERSONNEL MATTERS, THE GRIEVANCES AND DISCRIMINATION CHARGES. THIS ITEM WOULD CREATE A NEW RULE ESSENTIALLY IN CHAPTER TWO OF THE MISSOURI CITY POST. AND IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY SECRETARY, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE SIMILAR NOTIFICATION OR SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS. NOW, AS PRESENTED TO YOU, THE DEFINITION OF SIGNIFICANT IS, OR DESCRIPTION OF SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS INCLUDE POTENTIAL LITIGATION WHERE THE CITY IS THE PLAINTIFF, AS WELL AS INCIDENTS THAT INVOLVE A POTENTIAL CONFLICTS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING FOR WHICH YOU ALL NEED TO MAKE AN APP, HAVE AN ACTION OR MAKE OUR MOTION FOR, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO SEE AND THIS ORDINANCE, AS IT RELATES TO SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS, WHAT DO YOU ALL FEEL, UM, OR THINK RISES TO THE LEVEL OF SOMETHING BY WHICH YOU WOULD NEED COUNCIL NOTIFICATION AFTER THAT'S PROPERLY CALLED MEETING? I WILL TELL YOU I'VE LOOKED AT A FEW, UH, POLICIES, NOT ORDINANCES OF CITIES. A FEW CITIES HAVE POLICIES BY WHICH THEY REQUIRE NOTIFICATION OF MAJOR EVENTS IN THE CITY'S MAJOR FIRES AND PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, THINGS OF THAT SORT, BUT THIS IS YOUR, YOUR ORDINANCE IS, WOULD BE YOUR NOTIFICATION, UH, SYSTEM OR NOTIFICATION POLICY. UH, SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THE DESCRIPTION OF A SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT. REMEMBER STERLING, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? NO. I JUST LIKED THE, UH, UH, EASY CHOICE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE COUNCIL, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, I'M A VERY POLICY ORIENTED PERSON. AND SO I THINK WHEN WE HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE THAT HELP US TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. AND SO WHEN I ASK YOU JOYCE TO DO THIS, UM, THE SOMETHING WE GOT THE RIGHT PAPER, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO ANYTHING THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY PUT THIS COUNCIL AT RISK, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO KNOW AT LEAST AS SOON AND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE EITHER FROM, UH, I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER OR OF OUR, UH, BECAUSE YOU WILL RECEIVE YOUR ATTORNEY SO THAT MOST NEEDS TO BE CONVEYED TO US IN A TIMELY FASHION. SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS, NOT SEVERAL WEEKS OR SEVERAL MONTHS LATER. UH, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SEE AND I AM AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. SO I'LL OPEN IT UP TO MY FATHER. ANYONE ELSE, COMMENTS? UM, JOYCE, YOU SAID, YOU MENTIONED YOU REFERENCED OTHER CITIES. CAN YOU TELL WHAT YOU FOUND FROM OTHER POLICIES OR FROM OTHER CITIES? SURE. AND I WAS ONLY ABLE TO FIND A FEW CITIES THAT HAVE, UH, POLICIES. I HAVE ASKED THE OFFICE MANAGER TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH TO SEE IF SHE CAN FIND SHE'S ACTUALLY MAKING PHONE TO SEE IF SHE CAN FIND OTHER WRITTEN POLICIES THAT MAYBE NOT, THEY MIGHT NOT BE ORDINANCES, BUT OTHER WRITTEN POLICIES, THE POLICIES THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIVE MOSTLY RELATE TO PUBLIC SAFETY OF THEM. AND SOME OF THEM REQUIRE THE MANAGER TO MAKE THE NOTIFICATION. OTHERS REQUIRE LIKE A DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO MAKE THE, UH, NOTICE OR TO PROVIDE THE NOTICE TO [00:45:01] THE COUNCIL. SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY, I GUESS, A STEP FARTHER FROM THAT. UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS OF THE CITY, AREN'T GENERALLY HOW THE MANAGED FIRE MANAGER. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AT RISK, WE WOULD HAVE TO REQUEST SOME ADDITIONAL INSIGHT ON THAT BECAUSE AT THE OUTSET, FOR MOST ITEMS, THAT RISK IS MANAGED BY THE MANAGER AND THE MANAGEMENT TEAM ON THE FRONT END, ONLY CERTAIN INCIDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, RISE ESSENTIALLY TO THE LEVEL OF COUNCIL, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY RELATE TO. I INCLUDED THE LITIGATION ITEM OR LITIGATION IN QUESTION THE CITY OF THE PLAINTIFF, BECAUSE IN THOSE SITUATIONS, AUTHORIZATION IS REQUIRED, UH, GENERALLY REQUIRED BY THE COUNCIL. THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF TIMING WHERE WE'VE HAD TO MAKE SOME QUICK DECISIONS WITH THE, UM, THE MAYOR KIND OF SERVING AS LEAD. BUT THAT IS THE TYPE OF INCIDENT THAT IS CURRENTLY INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSAL. UM, BUT AGAIN, OTHER CITIES GENERALLY INCLUDE PUBLIC SAFETY ITEMS. THIS WOULD BE, UH, KIND OF TAKING IT A LITTLE BEYOND THAT, BUT IT'S YOUR POLICIES. SO IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, THEN YOU, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO. OH, JUST ONE SECOND. UM, MARIA, CAN YOU MAKE A NOTE THAT, UH, COUNT THE MAYOR ALEC HAS JOINED THE CALL AT SIX 14. UH, HE WAS SPEAKING WHILE HE CHIMED IN WHEN, UH, WHEN, SO I GUESS GO AHEAD. UH, CITY MANAGER JONES AND MARIELLA KINDA GETS YOU'LL TAKE FROM HERE. I'M FINE WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT INCLUDES POTENTIAL LITIGATION, WHICH MATTERS, INVOLVE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY TO ME, OR A CITY MANAGER. ONE-ON-ONE THESE ARE ITEMS THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY ANYWAY. UH, JUST MY PERSPECTIVE. NO, UM, I, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS POLICY, UM, COULD POTENTIALLY HARM US IN ANY WAY, OTHER THAN ALL THE BREASTS OR WHAT'S GOING ON SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS THAT MISERY CITY THERAPIST THAT'S THE VIABILITY. UM, I KNOW THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT WHAT NEIGHBORING CITIES AREN'T DOING. I THINK IT'S, UM, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE THE FIRST STEP TO BETTER OUR CITY AND HOPEFULLY OTHER CITIES WILL FOLLOW OUR LEAD. UM, AGAIN, I DON'T SEE ANY HARM THAT THIS COULD DO. UM, I DO RECALL SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES BEING UPSET WHEN WE WERE NOT INFORMED OF POTENTIAL, UM, ACTION ITEMS THAT WERE TAKEN WITHOUT US BEING INFORMED. SO I, AGAIN, I JUST THINK THAT AS BEING ABLE TO HAVE THIS POLICY, WHICH JUST CONTINUE TO EMPOWER EACH ONE OF US, THE COUNCIL MEMBER, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR AND SAY, CONTINUE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION IF NECESSARY TO OUR RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE INFORMED OF THOSE INSTANCES. I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS IS ROBIN IT'S ALONG THE SAME THING, BUT DO WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE FOR ANY STAFF THAT'S LEADING INTO LITIGATIONS? AND WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT UP TO COUNCIL? NO. AND WHEN YOU SAY STAFF, YOU MEAN LIKE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY, BY A STAFF MEMBER? IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? RIGHT. I MEAN, ANYTHING THAT'S GOING INTO LITIGATION'S AND ALL THAT. IS THERE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT I'M ASKING? THE QUESTION IS, UH, HOW LONG WOULD IT Y'ALL HAVE TO BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL? I GENERALLY BRING THOSE TO YOUR ATTENTION ONCE A QUARTER. THAT'S ONE OF MY ACTUALLY BENCHMARKS IS THAT ONCE A QUARTER, I PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON SPLITTING AND PENDING LITIGATION. NOT NECESSARILY MATTERS THAT ARE CLOSED, BUT PENDING LITIGATION, FOR EXAMPLE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED WITH THE DRUG TESTING, WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU WOULD BRING THAT UP IN A QUARTER? [00:50:01] I WAS NOT, UM, BORING AND I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT WE TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT IN AN OPEN MEETING THAT TAKES PLACE. YEAH. IF STAFF IS MOVING TOWARDS RECOMMENDING LITIGATION, THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD BRING UP. I WOULD ALSO BRING UP LITIGATION THAT HAS BEEN FILED. SO FOR IF YOU MAYOR ARE SERVED OR IF THE MANAGER OR CITY SECRETARY ARE SERVED, UH, WITHIN THE QUARTER, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BRING UP IF WE HAVE, IF WE START RECEIVING THREATS FROM SOMEONE'S ATTORNEY ABOUT LITIGATION, THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD BRING UP. UM, IF WE, UH, AND I SAY, IF THE CITY DOESN'T RECEIVE THREATS OR, UM, IF THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GRUMBLING ABOUT POTENTIAL LITIGATION, THAT MIGHT NOT BE BROUGHT UP UNTIL THERE'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING FILED, BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT TO SPECULATE TOO MUCH ON THAT SORT OF THING WITHOUT SUBSTANTIATION. RIGHT. SO MY, SO MY QUESTION IS THAT ANYTHING THAT YOU FEEL WHEN A STAFF MEMBER GO GOES AND GETS AN ATTORNEY, RIGHT. THAT THAT CAN POTENTIALLY SUE AGAINST THE CITY, LET'S JUST SAY WHATEVER THEY SHARE. UM, SO THAT MEANS AT THAT TIME, WOULD YOU LET CITY COUNCIL KNOW OR ONLY ONCE IT'S FILED? SO IT, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY'RE CLAIMING. UM, SO IF A STAFF MEMBER GOES OFF AND GETS AN ATTORNEY, UM, AND THEY CLAIM SOME SORT OF, UH, EXTREME CASE OF, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IT'S A DISCRIMINATION CASE. I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T NOTIFY COUNSEL UNTIL THEY FILED SOME SORT OF CHARGE AGAINST THE CITY. THIS IS I'M SORRY, MIR, HE FINISHED MIRACLES. I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED. JUST A MOMENT AGO, EAGLE, LAST YEAR, WE HAD SEVERAL ISSUES IN THAT. YOU, UNLESS YOU, SOMEBODY, YOU CONFLICTING WHAT YOU TOLD THEM LAST YEAR, EVEN IN MY ORIENTATION AS WELL, THAT YOU WOULD LET US ANYTIME ANYTHING THAT WOULD IMPACT US, INCLUDING STAFF, AS WELL AS COUNCIL THAT YOU WILL LET US KNOW IMMEDIATELY. AND IN PARTICULAR IS THAT WE HAD, I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES. SO ONLY THING I'M SAYING IS TO PROTECT THE COUNCIL, ANYTHING THAT WILL PUT US AT RISK, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE JUST COVERED, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST. SO I WANT YOU TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR NOTES BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS SAYING IS QUITE CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED JUST A MOMENT AGO, BUT HERE AGAIN, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED, THAT THE COUNCIL, WE ALSO NEED TO BE COVERED. ARE YOU ASKING ME TO VOTE ON THINGS? AND WHEN YOU'RE TELLING ME EX POST FACTO, WHEN YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY WHEN IT HAPPENED AND THINGS, AND I THINK YOU, AS AN ATTORNEY CAN DETERMINE WHAT'S CRUCIAL AND WHAT'S NOT CURRENTLY WHAT INFORMATION YOU NEED TO KNOW IMMEDIATELY. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING WITH THIS, WITH THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. IF I MAY, UH, IF I MAY COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS INCIDENTS WHERE THE CITY MAY HAVE HAD SOME SORT OF A SETTLEMENT THAT WAS NOT WITHIN A COUNCIL'S DISCRETION TO ACCEPT OR REJECT. AND I THINK YOU MIGHT ALSO BE REFERRING AN INCIDENT WHERE, UH, WHEREBY WE WERE ON A, THE CITY WAS ON A VERY KIND OF LIMITED TIMEFRAME TO FILE LITIGATION. SO I THINK THAT, UH, YOU WERE REFERRING TO, BUT IF IT'S AN A, THEN I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE MIGHT HAVE, UH, AN EMPLOYEE WHO THREATENS A LAWSUIT FOR SOME PERCEIVED ACTION, BUT THEN NEVER TAKES ANY ACTION ON IT. THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IF THAT PERSON DOESN'T FILE A CHARGE OR A CLAIM, THEY DON'T LET THE, UM, THEY DON'T FILE ANYTHING IN COURT. THAT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PER SE, LET YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT, UNLESS THEY'VE ACTUALLY FILED A LAWSUIT. OR WE THINK THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO FILE A LAWSUIT. AND I AGREE WITH YOU, THERE ARE CERTAIN INSTANCES IN WHICH, UH, AS THE ATTORNEY, I DO THINK THAT SOME, UH, SOME POTENTIAL LITIGATION MATTERS ARE MORE SEVERE AND MORE, UH, POTENTIALLY DAMAGING THAN OTHERS. THOSE SORTS OF INCIDENTS. YES. I WOULD DEFINITELY LET YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THOSE, EVEN IF A LAWSUIT HAS NOT BEEN FILED, BUT FOR OTHER MATTERS, IF IT'S, UH, UH, DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEES, WHO'VE BEEN THREATENING A LAWSUIT FOR TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF YOU HAVEN'T LIKE AS MANAGER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY BRING TO YOU ALL. [00:55:05] SO, UM, SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING, UH, FOR A, UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU PROPOSED, RIGHT? THIS WAS A PROPOSAL FROM YOU FOR COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO. IT'S JUST FOR FEEDBACK. THIS IS A COUNCIL MEMBER, STERLING REQUESTED A POLICY. THIS IS JUST DRAFT LANGUAGE. I JUST WANTED TO OBTAIN FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL INTO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU CONSIDER TO BE A SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT. UM, ONE THING I'LL ADD BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION IS MAYBE, UM, PERVASIVE CLAIMS AGAINST AN INDIVIDUAL, UM, MEMBER OF THE STAFF. IS THAT MAYBE SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT, UM, YOU MIGHT BE THINKING OF. I MIGHT ADD THAT TO THE LIST. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO SEE, THIS IS REALLY JUST YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT, BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR POLICY. HAVE QUESTIONS COUNSEL, BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING IN HERE THAT I DON'T THINK SHOULD BE IN THERE. SECTION FOUR, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S IN THERE ABOUT FINDING SOMEONE, UH, 500 BUCKS OR DEEMING A GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? AND IS THAT JUST STANDARD LANGUAGE OR IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE? YES, THAT'S A LANGUAGE IN OUR STANDARD ORDINANCE FORM, BUT I WILL BE REMOVING THAT FOR THIS SECTION. THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH YOU AS WELL. IT SHOULD BE, BUT ALSO, I GUESS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, COUNCILMAN STERLING, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE FULL INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE. SO WHEN YOU SAY INVOLVED WITH MATTERS, THAT INVOLVE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY. CAN YOU SEND IN THE ORDINANCE? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. SO I'M JUST ASKING, LIKE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT, WHAT MAY BE? CAUSE I, I THINK YOU HAVE TO SPELL THOSE OUT BECAUSE I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. WELL, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ED JOYCE, YOU KNOW, SO TO GET THE LEGAL, THE LEGALITIES OF IT, NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS ANYTHING THAT IMPACTS THE COUNCIL. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ME, YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE. THIS BODY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INFORMED AHEAD OF TIME AND NOT IN MILES DOWN THE ROAD. WHEN YOU ASKED ME TO BOAT, THE SOMETHING 10 MILES DOWN THE ROAD, THEN I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T CALLED TO MY ATTENTION. ONLY THING I'M SELLING TO PROTECT US, THE COUNCIL DON'T TO WHAT IT IS. AND HE DROVE US. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING YOU FOR YOUR EXPERT, YOUR EXPERTISE TO SEE WHAT MAKES SURE THE WORD COVERED. CAUSE YOU'RE ASKING US TO VOTE ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE ALWAYS LOOKING INFORMATION AND TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT TOO, UH, IT'S NOT ANYTHING PUNITIVE. IT'S REALLY TO PROTECT US. IF SOMETHING COMES UP. IF, IF CHERYL STERLING IS A, UH, ANYTHING MEAN TYPE OF THING THAT COMES UP UPON ILL OR FROM ANYTHING, I MEAN, I WANT YOU TO BE, I WANT TO BE ALERTED. I WANT TO BE AWARE, LIKE SHE JUST SAID, WE GET A WHITE PAPER ON EVERYTHING ELSE. JUST MAKE ME AWARE OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. AND I WANT TO GO BACK. AND JOYCE, YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL INCIDENTS LAST YEAR. ONE WAS VERY CLEAR. I'M NOT GOING TO DISCUSS IT, BUT IT'S VERY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK AS AN ATTORNEY AND AS THE CITY OF CITY STAFF, YOU DEEM WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD KNOW IMMEDIATELY. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ASK. CAUSE, CAUSE WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE CONSIDERING, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT THIS FOR, FOR US TO CONSIDER VOTING ON THIS ORDINANCE. AND I HEARD EARLIER MENTIONED THAT THERE'S ALREADY SOME THINGS IN THE PERSONNEL POLICY, UH, THAT SPEAK TO SOME OF THIS, BUT I WAS ASKING YOU IF YOU COULD PROVIDE US WITH, BECAUSE WHAT SHE'S ASKING US, WHAT I'M HEARING HER ASK US, HER BEING. CAUSE HE HAS TO DRAFT THE ORDINANCE THAT WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING OR WHAT TYPES OF THINGS DO WE NEED TO PUT IN HERE WHEN YOU SAY ANYTHING THAT IS VERY VAGUE. SO, I MEAN, I THINK SHE'S ASKING US TO DRILL DOWN, UH, TO, TO, TO SPEAK TO WHAT ITEMS THEY WOULD NEED TO BE BRINGING FORWARD. YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING ABOUT YOU GETTING ILL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO, BECAUSE THERE'S THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO THIS WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO. IT WOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY SECRETARY. SO IT'S NOT JUST EGYPT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. CAUSE I CAN'T VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DIRECTIVE [01:00:01] IS. SO, AND I KNOW THAT ONCE IT GOES INTO, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE, ONCE WE WOULD APPROVE IT, IF IT'S APPROVED, THAT MEANS THAT THEY WOULD FOLLOW THAT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT I WOULD BE ASKING THEM TO FOLLOW. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING YOU. I KNOW YOU AND, AND YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. COUNCILMAN BONY, BECAUSE THEN I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU AREN'T AND I DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO ALERT ME 10 MILES DOWN THE ROAD WHEN YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME WHEN I WAS AT THE FIRST BLOCK. NOW ON THE THING I'M SAYING IS HERE AGAIN. AND I DON'T THINK I CAN MAKE IT ANY CLEARER, BUT HERE AGAIN, UH, YOU JOYCE AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT WAS FADED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY IS CERTAINLY DIFFERENT FROM COUNCIL POLICY AND THAT, THAT WAS YOUR EXACT WORDS. SO, AND I THINK ALL OF HIS ADMINISTRATIVE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT HERE AGAIN, IF YOU, UH, LOOKING AT THE COUNCIL, OKAY, IT'S SEPARATE FROM STAFF. AND SO ONLY THING I'M SAYING IS TO PROTECT US, UH, THIS AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. I REST MY CASE AND I CAN'T MAKE IT ANY PLAINER IF YOU CAN'T, IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN DO AND MAKE IT PLAIN TO ANYBODY ELSE. I'M SAYING COUNCILWOMAN, I DON'T, IT'S NOT A PLANE, BUT IT'S NOT PLAIN TO ME. SO I'M ASKING YOU QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW, IF I'M GOING TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO THIS ORDINANCE AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING OF THEM SO THAT IF IT HAPPENS OR DOESN'T HAPPEN, I CAN SAY, WELL, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND YOU DIDN'T DO THIS. SO I NEED TO KNOW WHAT I'M EXPECTING THE CITY SECRETARY TO PROVIDE ME WITHIN 24 HOURS OR THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE ME WITHIN 24 HOURS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, AS FAR AS THESE SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS. SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE MAKING IT PLAIN, I'M TELLING YOU YOU'RE NOT TO ME. CAUSE I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND, WHICH IS WHY I'M ASKING. I'M JUST SIMPLY ASKING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND COUNCIL MEMBER BONDS, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU ONCE AGAIN AND HERE AGAIN, I'M SO SORRY. I APOLOGIZE, BUT I CAN'T MAKE IT ANY PLAINER THAN I ALREADY HAVE. AND I THINK THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL PROTECT THE COUNCIL WHEN THERE, AND JUST LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, ASK YOU TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. AND THE ONLY THING I'M SAYING IS TO GIVE ME, GIVE US INFORMATION SO THAT WE ALL MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. NOT ONLY ME, BUT YOU AS WELL, ALL OF US, BUT WHEN YOU GIVE ME INFORMATION, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AGAIN BECAUSE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, THEY SAID THAT ADMINISTRATIVE IS SEPARATE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCIL AT LORD. IF WE CAN HEAR AGAIN, AND THIS SITS AT THE COUNCIL. AND SO OFTEN MISSOURI CITY DON'T HAVE THINGS IN PLACE WHERE WE MADE THE SEASON. CAUSE WE FLIP-FLOPPED, IF WE CAN COME UP WITH ORDINANCE THAT WILL PROTECT US AS A COUNCIL. AND SO ALL I'M SAYING, AND I BELIEVE IT LIKE THAT. AND I'M SORRY IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I CAN'T MAKE IT ANY CLEARER. AND I SAID, YOU ALL ARE STUPID INDIVIDUALS, BUT I'M GONNA LEAVE IT TO THE, TO THE COUNSELOR. AND I'M FINE WITH EITHER WAY, GO ON. JUST NOT TO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. UM, LET, SO LET ME JUST CHIME IN CONSTANTLY RABBONI AND COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING. I THINK I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ALSO IS THE FACT THAT FOR EXAMPLE, AND I KNOW YOU REST YOUR CASE COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, AS AN EXAMPLE, JUST PUTTING AN EXAMPLE OUT THERE. IF I GOT CAUGHT STEALING MONEY, IF I WAS DRUNK DRIVING AND GOT CAUGHT AND I GOT A DUI, IF I'M LATE ON MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT, I MEAN, WHAT IS IT THAT THESE INFORMATION THAT GETS TO CITY MANAGER, CITY, ATTORNEY, CITY, SECRETARY BY PEOPLE, UM, WHAT, SO WE NEED TO HAVE THEM HAVE SOME CONCRETE AND I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR YOU. CUSTOMER BOARD IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS IT THAT IS GOING TO TAKE? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT CITY MANAGER WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT I'M LATE ON MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT. UH, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY BUY GOT CAUGHT DRUNK DRIVING AND I GOT A DUI, YES, THAT IS IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL. SO WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOME SORT OF GUIDANCE. AND I THINK WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AND I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR COUNCIL NUMBER BONEY IS WHEN YOU PUT IT OUT THERE, THE WAY IT IS, WHAT IS IT LIKE, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE THE STAFF? JUST, JUST BASICALLY NOT SAYING WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS WRONG, BUT IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO GIVE THE, THE DUMP, THE THREE PEOPLE THAT REPORT TO US THAT MORE SO IN THIS SITUATION, PERHAPS, MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER, ALONG WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS OF LIKE, WHAT DOES IT ENTAIL FOR A, SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL? SO NOW WE CAN LEAVE IT FOR HIS OR HER IMAGINATION OF WHAT THEY UNDERSTOOD, WHAT IT, WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OR WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. UM, SO IT JUST LOOKING FOR CLARITY IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. AND I'M OKAY WITH HAVING THIS SORT OF, UH, PROCESSES PUT IN PLACE. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK IT THROUGH, WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL [01:05:01] ORIENTED. I ASKED YOU WHAT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T PUT EVERY LITTLE THING IN THERE, BUT WE NEED TO GIVE A BETTER CLEAR CUT OR CLEAR DIRECTION AS TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, INCLUDING MYSELF, UH, TO BE ABLE LOOK AT OR PRESENT THIS CASE OR, OR AS CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY MANAGER BRINGS IT UP TO OUR ATTENTION AND KIND OF SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS RELEVANT MATTER TO CITY BUSINESS, OR THIS IS REALLY NOT. UM, BUT IT'S IN THE, IN THE MEANS OF WHOEVER THAT IS, IT COULD BE ANY ONE OF US. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IT IS. THERE IS A PROTECTION THAT'S IN THERE. SO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT STUFF THAT I DON'T WANT TO BE TALKED ABOUT, MY PERSONAL STUFF OR WHATEVER THAT ACTION MAY BE TO BRING IT TO A, THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, OTHER SIX TO KNOW ABOUT. SO I THINK THERE CAN BE SOME PARODY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM OF SUPPORTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE, BUT I'M NOT HEARING AGAIN IS WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TASK THEM WITH? AND WE NEED TO JUST MAYBE PROP GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE PROPER GUIDANCE, UM, AS TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS WHAT I'M HEARING. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. LET ME ALSO SAY THIS. I RESPECT YOUR PERSONAL OPINION, BUT I, AND I'M INCLINED TO BELIEVE THAT EITHER WAY IT GO, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE WITH THE FIVE. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. I'M TRYING TO PROTECT THE COUNCIL AS MYSELF. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS. WE GET WHITE PAPER, WE GET EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS IN MISSOURI CITY. AS IT IMPACTS THIS COUNCIL AND MAKING DECISIONS. I DON'T NEED TO KNOW YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE. I WANT TO THINK I SAID, IT'S THE COUNCIL FOR US TO MAKE DECISIONS AS COUNCILMAN WITH BONUS. SO CLEARLY JUST SAID A MOMENT AGO ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. WELL, IF HE ASKED ME TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT TOOK PLACE TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO, WHEN YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME, AND I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE INFORMATION TODAY, I MEAN, COME ON NOW, BUT HERE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I'M AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL EITHER WAY. IT GOES. NOBODY'S GOING TO UNDERSTAND ANYWAY, CAUSE I KNOW WE ALL DO THE SAME WAY, BUT I HEAR AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I REST MY CASE. COUNCILMAN, I BELIEVE, UM, AS SPECIFIED EARLIER IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT MAJOR ISSUES, ANYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT THE COUNCIL, SUCH AS, UM, MAKING SURE WE ARE INFORMED MAJOR NEWS CONFERENCES, UM, EMERGENCY ANYTHING THAT WILL BE A POLITICAL ETHICAL ISSUE, ANYTHING OR AS FAR AS BUDGET MANAGEMENT, WHERE WE SHOULD BE INFORMED POLICE, ANY TYPE OF INCIDENTS REGARDING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FIRE EMS. SO WE ARE AWARE OR WE CAN POTENTIALLY VOTE ON SOMETHING BUT NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY TYPE OF PERSONAL ISSUES, AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO OR BE AFFILIATED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT COMMENT, BECAUSE THAT IS DEFINITELY A WAY MORE THAN, THAN WHAT WAS SHARED BEFORE, WHEREBY YOU JUST NAMED SOME SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY LOOK AT AS WELL AS THE MAYOR. UH, YOU KNOW, HE KIND OF BROKE THAT DOWN. THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING BECAUSE IF, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO HOLD SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE TO SOMETHING, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE HOLDING ACCOUNTABLE TO. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT BEFORE JUST, YOU KNOW, VOTING ON THIS OR BRINGING THIS BACK BEFORE THIS WEEK, THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW SOME WAY THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TEETH PUT INTO THIS SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ASKING OR EXPECTING. UH, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, UM, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF SIGNIFICANT, I MEAN, I GUESS YOU DIDN'T GIVE COMPLETE EXAMPLES, BUT HER, SHE SAID, SHE SAID SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS INCLUDES POTENTIAL LITIGATION IN WHICH THE CITY MAY BE THE PLAINTIFF AND ANY, AND ALL MATTERS THAT INVOLVE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY AS IT. BUT THAT'S THE CASE. I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I KNOW IT'S DEFINITELY PERSONAL REGARDING WHAT THE MAYOR JUST IMPLICATED. I ALSO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION WITH THIS IS ONCE AN ISSUE IS BROUGHT UP, THEN WHAT, THIS IS WHERE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT ETHICS COMMISSION VOTE. HAVING AN ETHICS COMMISSION WOULD HAVE BEEN IN PLACE, THEN WE CAN BRING IT UP TO COUNCIL AND THEN COUNCIL CAN TAKE THAT THROUGH THE ETHICS COMMISSION, IF WE HAD ONE AND GO ALONG THE PROCESS. SO THEY BRING IT UP. OKAY. THEY BRING IT UP. AND WHAT I ALSO LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IF IT'S BEING BROUGHT UP, WHATEVER IT IS, I MEAN, IT COULD BE ANYTHING THEN AS A COUNCIL, I'M JUST SITTING BACK HERE LOOKING AT THIS. SO WHAT'S THE NEXT, UH, POLICY THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT HOW WE ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, IS BEING [01:10:01] NOW BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE ALTERNATE, WHERE DOES IT GO TO BE BROUGHT UP TO COUNCIL IS FINE. THIS IS COUNCILWOMAN STERLING. SO OFTENTIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL, WE LIKE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE, WE HAVE CHALLENGES LIKE WE DO RIGHT NOW. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M SAYING. I'VE BEEN IN EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP OVER 20 YEARS. AND I WAS APPALLED WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL, THE LACK OF POLICIES THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE. I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU JOYCE, BEFORE WITH THE CITY MANAGER, WITH THE STAFF, BUT HERE AGAIN, UH, IF WE'RE WE'RE IN A STOOP, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'RE IN A STOOP COUNSELOR HERE THAT WE ALL CAN UNDERSTAND, BUT HERE AGAIN, I WANTED TO BRING, SO WE WANT TO BE PROTECTIVE. WE CAN'T DEEM WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT FOR US TO VOTE ON THEN SHAME ON US. BUT HERE AGAIN, I REST MY CASE BECAUSE I KNOW NOBODY'S GOING TO UNDERSTAND, CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO FLIP THE COIN AND IT'S GOING TO GO WHICHEVER WAY. SO LIKE I SAID, I REST MY CASE AND I'M DONE. THANK YOU. AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE IS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT WHILE WE ARE FINE WITH CREATING POLICIES THAT SHOULD NOT BE CREATED FOR EACH INCIDENCES, IS THAT BRING TO OUR ATTENTION. IT SHOULD BE POLICIES SHOULD BE MADE AND SHOULD BE IN PLACE SO THAT IT DICTATES HOW WE OPERATE AND HOW SHOULD DO IT. WELL, IF WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO BRING UP POLICIES EACH TIME ON EACH ISOLATED INCIDENTS AS WE'LL HAVE POLICIES LEFT. AND I, AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU FIND CONSTANT NUMBER STERLING AS TO THE LACK OF POLICIES. I'M SURE THERE WERE NO DOUBT, BUT AGAIN, AS WE I'M JUST LOOKING AT WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THIS POLICY. YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO HAVE A PURPOSE. IT HAS TO HAVE AN ULTIMATE AS TO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? AND IT HAS TO HAVE THINGS SPELLED OUT IN ORDER FOR A POLICY, UH, TO BE POINTED OUT. AND I'VE BEEN IN EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT FOR 24 YEARS. SO SEVERAL OF THOSE POLICIES, WHAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT, WE NEED TO PUT POLICIES IN PLACE THAT HELPS THE STAFF TO IDENTIFY WHEN YOU, SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED, DO WE HAVE ITEMS? CAN WE TALK ABOUT FORGERY? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN PUT IN THE POLICY, I WAS ABOUT TO, MARILYN'S ABOUT TO MAKE A COMMENT. AND FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THAT THEY RESTED THEIR CASE, THEY KEEP HAVING CASES. YEAH. AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A CASE BECAUSE I REALIZE, OKAY, MY POINT IS THIS, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THIS. I'M REALLY GETTING A LITTLE FRUSTRATED, CONTINUALLY HEARING MY COLLEAGUES, QUESTION MY ABILITY TO COMPREHEND. AND AS IF I'M NOT INTELLIGENT OR THAT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING OR WHAT I'M LISTENING TO. UM, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T INTERPRET PEOPLE'S INTENTIONS OR WHAT NOT. I ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE ME WITH CONTENT AND INFORMATION. I GO BACK TO A COUPLE OF INSTANCES, INCIDENTS ONE, WE HAD A ORDINANCE COME BEFORE US BY COUNCILWOMAN CLOUSER RELATIVE TO THE SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE HAD QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS. THERE WERE THINGS THAT COUNCIL, WOMAN CLOUDS ARE NEEDED TO GET MORE CLARITY ON AND SHE COULD NOT ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. SO THAT WAS, SHE BROUGHT IT BACK BEFORE US GOT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE FLESHED OUT AND EXP WAS ABLE TO EXPLAIN ALL OF THE THINGS RELATIVE TO THIS POTENTIAL ORDINANCE. AND SHE WAS ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AT THAT POINT BEFORE US, SAME WITH ME WITH, WITH THE ETHICS COMMISSION THAT I BROUGHT FORTH. UH, I INTRODUCED IT TO THE COUNCIL A MONTH BEFORE I BROUGHT IT BACK TO GET FEEDBACK AND TO HAVE DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES. I THINK THAT IS FAIR. BUT TO QUESTION SOMEONE'S INTELLIGENCE AS IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT, I THINK IS EXTREMELY, UH, UNFAIR, UNFORTUNATE. AND IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REALLY STEER CLEAR OF BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS TO TRY TO BERATE ONE ANOTHER. I'M NOT HERE TO BERATE ANYBODY. I'M HERE ASKING QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, IT IS GOOD TO GET CLARITY. I WOULD LIKE TO GET INFORMATION, UH, IN, IN A MORE TIMELY BASIS. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON YOU TO TRY TO WORK WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES AND GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND SO THAT WHEN YOU BRING SOMETHING BEFORE US, THAT WE WOULD BE MORE APT TO PROBABLY SUPPORT IT. IF WE UNDERSTOOD IT BETTER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. AND THAT'S NOT MY FAULT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNETT. AND IF, AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU THINK THAT THAT WAS MY INTENT, BUT THAT WAS YOUR PERCEPTION. THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. AND SO PLEASE DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT YOU'RE AN ASTUTE PERSON. SO MY POINT IS ONCE AGAIN, AND I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN, IS THAT WE LIKE POLICIES AND THAT'S AS A GOVERNING BODY, THAT'S OUR ROLE IS TO IMPLEMENT GOVERNMENT AND TO ENSURE THAT WE ENSURE FOLLOW POLICY. SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. AND HERE AGAIN, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AMAZING THAT NOBODY ELSE UNDERSTAND IT, [01:15:01] BUT DID THE TWO OF US, BUT IT'S OKAY. AND, UH, LIKE I HERE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND WE'LL REVISIT IT. IF IT DOESN'T COME BACK THEN, SO BE A FINE, I BOUGHT IT TO THE COUNCIL. THAT WAS MY INTENT. SO THINKING I PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT PERSON. CAUSE THAT WAS CERTAINLY NOT MY INTENT MAGIC, UH, FOR, SORRY. UH, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE TO YOU GUYS AS WELL THAT WE, UH, THAT I BRING FORWARD TO YOU. IN FACT, I, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I HAVE BEEN MEETING AND DISCUSSING HIS SIDE OF IT, AND I KNOW WE HAVE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA FLYIN, BUT IT DOES RELATE TO THIS. I WANTED TO PROPOSE TO THE COUNCIL OR CONSIDERATION OF ETHICS COMMISSION TO ALLOW, UH, FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS TO BE NATURALLY FLUSHED OUT IN A LOT OF CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. UM, I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE THESE POLICIES, BUT IT'S ALSO TOO IMPORTANT TO HAVE A, A COMMISSION THAT EVALUATES THESE THINGS AND, AND, AND AGAIN, DO INVESTIGATIONS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OFF OF THOSE INVESTIGATIONS. UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE JOISTS ON CRAFTING SOMETHING THAT ALIGNS WITH THAT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE TEXAS, UM, CITY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION AND ALSO TO TMAO ABOUT THAT. UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A MATTER THAT I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO ALERT THE COUNCIL THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D BE PROPOSING TO YOU ALL ENOUGH, UH, AS THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE'RE PLANNING THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. UH, BUT I THINK IT ALLOWS LO LOT OF CONCERNED AT LEAST, UM, HAVE BEEN FLUSHED OUT, LISTENING TO YOU ALL, UH, THE BANK, THE ITEM. UM, BUT I THINK IF WE, WE JUST, WE JUST NEED SOME CLARITY ABOUT WHAT IT IS BECAUSE I'VE READ THIS AND I THINK, OKAY, IT SAYS INCLUDES POTENTIAL LITIGATION IN WHICH THE CITY MAY BE APPLYING THEM. THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, CLEAR THIS IS SAFE AT ANY AND ALL MATTERS THAT INVOLVE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY, UH, THAT LANGUAGE FROM JUST FROM A CITY MANAGER THAT'S NORMAL. AND YOU SEE THAT IN POLICIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, CERTAINLY THROUGHOUT THE STATE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S AN ORTHODOX ON WHAT IT IS. SO IF Y'ALL WANT TO ADD MORE TO THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET US DISCUSS THIS PIECE. AND I, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO PROPOSE A, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? AN ETHICS COMMISSION? I THINK WE, THIS COUNCIL, NOT ME, UH, OR, UH, PRIOR TO ME, THIS WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED THROUGH. SO WE'LL CONSIDER THAT IN A BIT INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT I REALLY LIKED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, THE SEVEN OF US TO GO BACK TO ITEM TWO C AND DISCUSS WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE IS TO GIVE DIRECTION TODAY'S DIRECTION. THAT IS I COUNSEL MEMBERS, ANYBODY CITY MANAGER, CITY, ATTORNEY, AND CITY SECRETARY COULD PUT A, UH, ITEM ON EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT YOU CAN BRING IT FORWARD AS TO DISCUSS THOSE ANY MATTERS. THAT'S WHAT THE, AT LEAST THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT TODAY, THAT IS WHAT IT IS. SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT ANY TIME. THIS IS PUTTING A TIME ON IT IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK I WAS IN JUNCTION OF ASKING FOR CLARITY. SO I LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH ITEM TWO C IS OUR EMOTION. IF IT IS, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON IT, MOVE FORWARD. THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT BROUGHT THIS ISSUE ALREADY ARRESTED HER CASE. I THOUGHT IT WAS THE MAYOR. I THOUGHT THAT MENTIONED THAT SHE WAS JUST WANTING TO GET CLARITY FROM US, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, MOTION CAN BE MADE ON THE AS PRESENTED IF IT NEEDED TO BE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM. I MEAN, TO ME, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THERE'S A MOTION OR NO MOTION, OR WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AND READ, DISCUSS THIS LATER ON. BUT I THINK, UM, WE ARE STICKING TO TWO SEATS AND MAYOR, THIS IS COUNCILWOMAN. STERLING IS FINE WITH ME TOO. IT'S DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED A MOTION. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UM, EVERY SPECIFY PRETTY MUCH WHAT I LISTED EARLIER, SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE WANT TO AMEND IT OR WANT TO COME BACK TO IT. I DO WANT TO HEAR WHAT MY OTHER COLLEAGUES, OTHER THAN THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER CLOUDS, OR WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE THE PRELIMINARY INFORMATION THAT YOU [01:20:01] ARE SEEKING FROM OTHER CITIES? I HAVE TO HAVE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK. I NOTICED THE OFFICE MANAGER HAS ALREADY RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM ABOUT THREE OF THE 14 OR SO BENCHMARK CITIES. SO HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK, SO PROBABLY BY THE MAY BENDS OR DURING WHATEVER THAT FIRST MEETING IS. SO WOULD IT BE FAIR FOR YOU TO COMPILE, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU RECEIVED AND MAYBE BULLET POINT THOSE AND THEN PRESENT THAT AND THEN GO FROM THERE? I GUESS NOW WHAT I USUALLY TRY TO DO IS JUST PROVIDE YOU WITH A CHART THAT HAS THE LIST OF THE CITIES AS THEIR POPULATION, AS WELL AS THE, WHETHER THEY HAVE WHATEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WHAT, WHAT EVER CHEMICALS LOOKING AT OR NOT. UM, SO I WOULD JUST PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT CHART AS SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION IN THE PACKET. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, SINCE THERE'S NO OTHER EMOTION? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. I GUESS WE MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM THREE. IS THERE ANY, UH, IS THERE, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS AND THEN GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING. THANK YOU ALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.