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EVERYONE.[1. CALL TO ORDER]
THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CALL THE MISSOURI CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.WE'LL ENTERTAIN A ROLL CALL AT THIS TIME.
UM, ONCE I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU WOULD SIGNIFY YOUR PRESENCE, PLEASE BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, PRESENCE OR I, THAT EITHER ONE WILL BE FINE.
COMMISSIONER SILVER COMMISSIONER OVERTON PRESENT COMMISSIONER BRIGHTWELL, COMMISSIONER HANEY, COMMISSIONER LUCAS, COMMISSIONER RASMUS AND COMMISSIONER BAILEY.
SANDY BROWN, MARSHALL AND I'LL SHARE IS THE CHAIRMAN.
[3. READING OF MINUTES]
WE WILL, UM, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH OF 2021.AND KIM, MR. BRIGHTWELL, IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MS. RASMUS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE MINUTES OR ANY, UH, CHANGES OR ANYTHING? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, I AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY NAYS OR ABSTENTIONS? THANK YOU.
[4. REPORTS]
WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE REPORTS UNDER, UM, COMMISSION REPORTS, CHAIR.ARE THERE ANY OTHER REPORTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NO.
WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE US STAFF REPORTS, UM, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, MS. GOMEZ, DID IT MEAN SHARED COMMISSIONED? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
MA'AM I DON'T HAVE A REPORT, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE JUST THE WORK THAT, UH, JIMA EDWARDS, OUR PLANNING TECHNICIAN AND GRETCHEN PYLE, OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COORDINATOR PUT IN ON THIS AGENDA AND JUST IN OUR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS.
UM, SO AS THE COMMISSION CAN SEE, AND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AGENDA, IT'S A FAIRLY LENGTHY ONE AND THEY REALLY STEPPED UP.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN EXCEPTIONAL AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE, BUT THEY'VE REALLY STEPPED UP AND THIS LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND TRY AND, UH, ASSISTING US IN GETTING THIS OUT IS, UM, WORTHY, WORTHY OF BEING NOTED.
AND WE ALSO APPRECIATE RECEIVING, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SOME KIND OF THE PRELIMS AND SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE FACED WITH ON TONIGHT AS WELL.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVER JEN.
IS ANYBODY ELSE HEARING AN ECHO? HMM, I'M PRETTY CLEAR ON MY END.
IF EVERYONE, IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, THOUGH, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO PLEASE MUTE, MUTE YOURSELVES, THAT THAT WOULD TRULY HELP WITH SOME OF THE ECHO AS WELL.
I UNDERSTAND TONIGHT WE DO HAVE A REPORT BY MS. MOORE.
UM, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR ON FAIR HOUSING IS MS. MOORE AVAILABLE TRYING TO GET MY PHONE OFF MUTE? NO WORRIES.
UH, SO APRIL IS FAIR IS NATIONAL FAIR HOUSING MONTH.
SO THE CITY IS WORKING TOWARDS FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING MISSION.
LAST YEAR IN APRIL, WE CELEBRATED THE 51ST ANNIVERSARY OF THE PASSING OF THE FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968.
THIS YEAR, WHERE WE ARE RECOMMITTING TO THE GOAL OF ELIMINATING HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AND TO CREATE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, NOT ONLY IN MISSOURI CITY, BUT IN EVERY COMMUNITY, UH, FUNDAMENTALLY FAIR HOUSING MEANS THAT EVERY PERSON CAN LIVE FREE.
THIS MEANS THAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE OPEN AND WELCOMING FREE FROM HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AND HOSTILITY.
OUR COMMITMENT TO FAIR HOUSING IS A LIVING COMMITMENT.
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THAT REFLECTS THE NEEDS OF AMERICA TODAY AND PREPARES US FOR A FUTURE OF TRUE INTEGRATION.THE FAIR HOUSING ACT REFERS TO TITLE EIGHT OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1968.
THIS ACT IN ADDITION TO THE TEXAS FAIR HOUSING ACT WAS ENACTED TO PROTECT PERSONS FROM HOUSING DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX NATIONALITY, FAMILIAL STATUS, DISABILITY, OR ANCESTRY, ACCORDING TO THE U S DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
2 MILLION INSTANCES OF HOUSING DISCRIMINATION ARE ESTIMATED TO TAKE PLACE EACH YEAR ACROSS THE NATION.
DESPITE THIS LESS THAN 2% OF THOSE INSTANCES ARE REPORTED AS MANY RENTERS AND HOME BUYERS DO NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ACTIVITIES ARE ILLEGAL UNDER THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.
THE PURPOSE OF THE FAIR HOUSING ACT IS TO PROVIDE FAIR HOUSING PRACTICES, CREATE PROCEDURE FOR INVESTIGATION COMPLAINTS AND TO PROVIDE RIGHTS AND REMEDIES UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
BUT THIS ALSO MEANS THAT EACH ONE OF US HAS ACCESS TO NEIGHBORHOODS OF OPPORTUNITY WHERE, WHERE OUR CHILDREN CAN ATTEND QUALITY SCHOOLS, ALLOWS OUR ENVIRONMENT TO BE HEALTHY AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH.
IN APRIL, WE TAKE THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE ADVANCEMENTS OF EQUAL HOUSING ACCESS.
UM, SINCE IT IS FAIR, HOUSING MONTH IS SPENT.
IT'S DESERT IS DESIGNATED TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE ADVANCEMENTS OF EQUAL HOUSING ACCESS AND TO REMIND YOURSELVES THE PURPOSE OF THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.
THE FAIR HOUSING ACT APPLIES TO HOUSING AND HOUSING RELATED ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING APARTMENT AND HOME RENTALS, MORTGAGE LENDING, HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE REAL ESTATE SELLS THE FAIR HOUSING ACT SHOULD ALSO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN SETTING DEED RESTRICTIONS, LAND USE ORDINANCES DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING CODES, ENFORCEMENT POLICIES, OR RENTING, INCLUDING MAKING REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE DISABLED AND, UH, PERTAINING TO SHOWING SELLING, AND MORTGAGING OR INSURING HOMES.
SOME EXAMPLES OF HOUSING DISCRIMINATION UNDER THE FAIR HOUSING ACT ARE REFUSAL TO RENT OR SELL HOUSING REFUSAL TO NEGOTIATE FOR HOUSING, MAKING HOUSING, UNAVAILABLE SETTING, DIFFERENT TERMS, CONDITIONS, OR PRIVILEGES FOR SELL OR RENTAL OF PROPERTY PERSUADING OWNERS TO SELL OR RENT THEIR HOME FOR PROFIT DENYING ACCESS TO OR MEMBERSHIP IN A FACILITY OR SERVICE RELATED TO THE SELL OF HOUSING IN ADVERTISING OR MAKING ANY STATEMENT THAT INDICATES A LIMITATION OR PREFERENCE BASED ON RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, INCLUDING SEXUAL HARASSMENT, FAMILIAL STATUS, DISABILITY, OR BLINDNESS.
THIS PROHIBITION APPLIES TO SINGLE FAMILY AND OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING THAT IS OTHERWISE EXEMPT FROM THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.
IN 2018 ALONE, THERE WERE 31,202 COMPLAINTS OF HOUSING DISCRIMINATION.
THIS NUMBER HAS SEEN AN INCREASE SINCE THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC, ESPECIALLY CONCERNING SEXUAL HARASSMENT AGAINST TENANTS.
UH, ONE EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF CITIES ARE NOT COMPLIANT, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH INVESTIGATING OR FORWARDING FAIR HOUSING COMPLAINTS.
UM, THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, THERE WERE, THERE WAS A COMPLAINT ALLEGED AND FILED ON MAY 26, 2015, THE CITY IMPOSED A ONE HALF MILE SPACING RULE THAT PROHIBITED MANY SMALL GROUP HOMES FROM OPERATING IN BEAUMONT.
THEY ALSO IMPOSED FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS, EXCEEDING THOSE IMPOSED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS AS PART OF ITS CERTIFICATION IN FUNDING OR FOR GROUP HOMES, THE RESTRICTIONS PROHIBITED PERSONS WITH INTELLECTUAL OR DEVELOPMENTAL FROM LIVING IN BEAUMONT.
THE RESTRICTIONS RESULTED IN A NURSING HOME INSTITUTIONALIZATION OF A WOMAN WHO WAS FORCED TO MOVE OUT OF HER HOME IN THE CITY, VIOLATED THE FAIR HOUSING ACT AND THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT, UM, DUE TO THIS IN 2016, THE CITY HAD TO PAY 435,000 AND MONETARY RELIEF, A $15,000 CIVIL PENALTY, $25,000 TO DISABILITY RIGHTS OF TEXAS.
THEY HAD TO SEE SOME ENFORCEMENT.
THEY IMPLEMENTED, THEY HAD TO IMPLEMENT A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION POLICY.
EVERYBODY WAS REQUIRED TO ATTEND FAIR HOUSING TRAINING AND THEY WERE APPOINTED A FAIR HOUSING COMPLIANCE OFFICER.
UH, SOME OF THE WAYS WE CAN AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING ARE BY MAINTAINING AND IMPLEMENTING A FAIR HOUSING PLAN, ESTABLISHING A FAIR HOUSING ORDINANCE, REVIEWING LOCAL CODES OF ORDINANCES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE, RECEIVING, INVESTIGATING, AND FORWARDING TO HUD FAIR HOUSING COMPLAINTS.
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HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE AND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON FAIR HOUSING ISSUES.AND THE CITY AS A RECIPIENT OF FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING, UM, SUCH AS OUR CDBG GRANT AND TEXAS DOT MUST WORK TO AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING GOALS WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
UM, OUR CDBG CONSOLIDATED PLAN, A FAIR HOUSING IMPEDIMENTS STUDY, A HOUSING STUDY, WHICH WAS JUST COMPLETED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CDAC PERIODIC PRESENTATIONS IN PUBLIC HEARINGS, INFORMATIONAL BROCHURES IN ASSISTANCE AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND WORKSHOPS.
UH, SOME FAIR HOUSING RESOURCES.
WE HAVE THE U S DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT OR HUD, THEIR OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY.
WE HAVE THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, THE NATIONAL FAIR HOUSING ALLIANCE, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION OF MISSOURI CITY AND THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION.
AND THAT WOULD END MY PRESENTATION.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT SINCE WE DO HAVE THE APPROVED HOUSING STUDY, IF ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN A COPY, WE DO HAVE SOME AVAILABLE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT REPORT.
UM, UH, GENE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THAT REPORT TO EACH COMMISSIONER? I SURE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD TOO.
UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF REVIEW THE PLAN.
UM, OUR REVIEW, YOU KNOW, OUR FAIR HOUSING PLAN A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE YEAR AND THAT WAY THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE STUDY.
WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ENGINEERING.
ALRIGHTY, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]
OKAY.WE'LL MOVE NOW, UH, ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WOULD BE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK OF, TO MATTER TO THEM MAY NOT BE ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HELLO? YEAH.
HI, MY NAME IS JULIE BARON AND I'M REPRESENTING THE MANNERS OF, UM, SILVER RIDGE OFF OF IT'S, UH, UM, COMMUNITY OFF OF WATSON PLANTATION ROAD.
ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ONE OF THE PROJECTS? OKAY.
ONCE WE GET DOWN TO THAT, THEN WE'LL CALL FOR THAT TYPE OF PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, JULIE, FOR JOINING US THOUGH.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT A MATTER THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON, BUT JUST BEFORE WE DO, I DID WANT TO GIVE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS IN ATTENDANCE ON TONIGHT.
THANK YOU SIR, FOR JOINING US ON TONIGHT.
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR AGENDA POLICE COMMISSIONERS.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
AT THIS TIME, WE ARE AT ITEM SIX, THE PLATTS.THIS WILL BE OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
WE DO CONSIDER THESE ITEMS AS ROUTINE ONE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CONCEPT PLAN FOR SIANNA PEER RETRACT TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR SIANNA SECTION 29 B THREE.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR SIANNA'S SECTION 45
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAN.
MURPHY VILLAGE COMMERCIAL EIGHT.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT CHEMIST AND MEN OF SWAN.
I'LL SORRY IF I CHOPPED IT UP NINE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR SIANNA DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
IS THERE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HANEY.
THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR
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SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.ARE THERE ANY NAYS, ANY ABSTENTIONS, THANK YOU.
THAT MATTER STANDS APPROVED ITEM
[6.B. SIENNA]
SIX B UH, THIS IS UNDER SIANNA WHERE WE WILL RECONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CONCEPT PLAN FOR SIANNA'S THREE DATE.AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ALL THESE AT ONCE OR WITH JENNIFER.
YEAH, BECAUSE ONLY I DON'T SEE IT AS RELATED TO, UM, THE CONCEPT AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS SEPARATE FROM IT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, BUT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
UH, THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT WAS APPROVED LAST SEPTEMBER AND IT CONTAINED TWO SECTIONS SECTION 42 AND 43.
UM, THAT'S IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF CNSI.
UM, IT ALSO INCLUDED A RIGHT OF WAY FOR A WATER BOULEVARD AROUND ABOUT ONE OF THE ROUNDABOUTS, UH, THIS REVISED, UM, CONCEPT PLAN EXTENDS THE BOUNDARIES AND ADDS IN A SECTION OF SIENNA PARKWAY, UH, JUST NORTH OF THESE TWO SECTIONS WHERE A DEVELOPMENT WILL SOON OCCUR TO WIDEN, UH, TECH.
DID I SAY TEXAS PARKWAY SEEING A PARKWAY, SEEING A PARKWAY, UM, IN THAT AREA.
SO, UH, THERE'S NO FURTHER CHANGES TO THIS CONCEPT EXCEPT TO, UM, INCREASE THE BOUNDARIES AND ADD IN THE SECTION OF SEEING A PARKWAY, UH, TO BE WIDENED, APPROVE THIS CONCEPT PLAN.
I THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. HANEY, CAUSE THAT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY AND SIMPLE.
IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. BARDWELL.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AND I AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY NOS ABSTENTIONS THING? NONE OF THIS, THIS ONE IS APPROVED AS WELL.
AND CHAIR, DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT THIS? UH, JUST, JUST MAKE IT BRIEF SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE PHONE, JENNIFER, I GET, I GET IT.
UM, IT MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A FINAL PLAT.
UM, I WILL JUST NOTE THAT THEY DID, UM, REVISE STREET NAMES.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE PLAQUES DISCUSSED AT THE FEBRUARY, UH, ON THE FEBRUARY AGENDA WITH THE STREET NAMES.
SO THEY DIDN'T REVIVE STREET NAMES AND THOSE REVISED STREET NAMES ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
UM, AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THIS PLAN.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS FINAL PLAT.
IS THERE A SECOND, MR. BAILEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SECOND.
THE MOTION WAS PAID BY MR. HANEY.
IT WAS SECONDED BY MR. BAILEY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER.
SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AS WELL.
UH, THIS IS ANOTHER REVISED, UH, FINAL PLAT.
UM, AND THE ONLY REVISION MADE ON THIS IS, UH, A SPLIT OUT ON RESERVE C THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION.
UM, RESERVES C WAS SPLIT TO CREATE TWO, UH, RESERVES AND ALL OF IT'S FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES.
NO OTHER CHANGES WERE MADE TO THIS PLAN.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS FINAL PLAT? THANK YOU, MR. HANEY.
IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, DR.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SEEING NONE, THIS ONE STANDS APPROVED AS WELL.
[7.A. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT]
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TOWARDS THE ITEM SEVEN, THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS.THIS IS FOR AN ISSUE PING ON TONIGHT.
WE'LL RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST
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BY TAMIM IN OUR TIME NEED OR AN ISSUE P TO ALLOW FOR THE LOCATION OF A PLACE OF ASSEMBLING NEW CHURCH LOCATION.THIS IS THE PROJECT SITE, WHICH YOU PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONES PLEASE.
THIS IS THE PROJECT SITE LOCATIONS SHOWN ON THE MAP ON THE SCREEN OUTLINED IN BLACK.
UM, AND JUST TO THE EAST OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE MANNERS OF SILVER RIDGE ON, UH, WEST PLANTATION ROAD.
AND THIS IS A BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ON A PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.
UH, THE PROPOSED USE FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, UM, FOR THE LOCATION OF A, UM, CHURCH, UM, IN, OR A RELIGIOUS PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, UM, ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND SO THERE IS A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
UM, WE TRIED TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBLE ON THE SCREEN, UM, BUT IT SHOWS, UH, THE WEST PLANTATION, UH, RIGHT AWAY WOULD BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS IMAGE, UM, ON THE SCREEN WITH A DRIVEWAY PROVIDING ACCESS FROM WATTS PLANTATION, UM, AND THE SITUATION OF THE PRIMARY WORSHIP BUILDING, UH, TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY AND IT WOULD BE, UH, TO THE EAST OR TO THE RIGHT OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY.
UH, THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
SO THE SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, UM, IS, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO APPROVE, UM, THE SUP TO ALLOW FOR A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, UH, THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE UNDERLINING SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
UM, IT WOULD JUST ADD THE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY AS AN ADDITIONAL USE.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IS WE'LL APPLY ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, UH, DISTRICT ZONING, UM, EXCEPT A SPECIFIED IN THE REPORT.
UM, THOSE STANDARDS INCLUDE HEIGHTENED AREA STANDARDS FOR ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION, UM, INCREASING THE SETBACK OF THE FRONT YARD FROM WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE REPORT IS A FRONT YARD OF NOT LESS THAN 35 FEET, MEANING THE PRIMARY BUILDING NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, COULD BE, COULD NOT BE CLOSER TO THE WIFE'S PLANTATION FRONTAGE THAN 35 FEET.
UM, AND THEN, UH, APPLYING SIDE YARD SETBACKS OF NOT LESS THAN 15 FEET, THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE ADOPTING THE LC TO, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING FROCKS AND EXTERIOR LIGHTING, UM, THAT PROVIDES, UH, SOME STANDARDS FOR HOW MUCH LIGHTING FROM THIS FACILITY TO COULD EXTEND OFFSITE ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UH, WHICH IS MINIMAL TO NONE.
UM, SO IT WOULD PROVIDE THOSE STANDARDS, UM, FOR, UH, THOSE REGULATIONS, UM, APPLYING THE NON-RESIDENTIAL, UH, TRASH REGULATION STANDARDS.
THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS THAT REQUIRE IF A, UM, DUMPSTER, UM, CONTAINER IS LOCATED ON THE SITE, THEN IT'S REQUIRED TO BE SCREENED, UH, WITH A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE MASONRY, UH, WITH, UM, METAL GATES, UM, APPLY ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, UM, ENFORCE THEM, UH, IN THE CITY APPLY, UH, THE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.
UM, THERE IS A CONSIDERATION IN THE REPORT ON PARKING AS SHOWN.
UH, SO IT WOULD BE THE APPLICATION OF THE CITY STANDARD PARKING RATIOS, BUT THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, RELOCATE THE PARKING AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, AS OPPOSED TO THE FRONT, UM, AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL CUING SPACE, UH, FOR CARS OFF OF A WATTS PLANTATION.
UH, THE REPORT ALSO HAS A RECOMMENDATION TO PROHIBIT, UM, ANY OUTSIDE PLACEMENT STORAGE, SALES OR SERVICES, UM, EXCEPT AS WHAT MIGHT BE RELATED FOR A SPECIAL EVENT.
UM, AND SO THAT IS THE SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE REPORT.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS ON THE CALL, UH, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO HEAR FROM HIM, UM, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, IF THE COMMISSION HAS SOME AS WELL.
UM, UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I'M PRETTY SURE MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE SOME AS WELL.
COULD WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? UH, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS,
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OH, OKAY.I NOTICED THAT YOU HAD, YOU GUYS ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BUILDING SET BAND SETBACK BE 35 FEET, YOU KNOW, AT MINIMUM.
UM, AND EVEN MAYBE COMMISSIONER HANEY COULD POSSIBLY HELP WITH THIS IN TERMS OF WHERE WOULD THAT POSSIBLY LAND OFF OF WATTS PLANTATION THAT SETBACK WOULD STILL BE FAIRLY CLOSE TO LAST PLANTATION, 35 FEET.
AND SO I KNOW IF YOU, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, ZOOMED IN, SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE THIS PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE, IT'S KIND OF SPLIT INTO TWO PROPERTIES.
SO WHERE THAT HOUSE SITS TODAY, UM, IS PROBABLY THE EDGE OF IT IS PROBABLY ABOUT 35 FEET IF, IF LESS, UM, FROM THAT STREET FRONT END.
UM, SO WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THE SITE PLAN, THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING ON THE SITE PLAN EXCEEDS THAT 35 FEET.
SO JENNIFER, YOU MEAN IT'S, IT'S BEYOND THE 35 FEET OR IT'S WITHIN THE THIRD.
WHAT THEY'RE SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS BEYOND THE 35 FEET.
BUT IF THEY MOVE THE PARKING, THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT, CORRECT? THAT WAY.
SO MOVING THE PARKING, UM, OBVIOUSLY IF WE PUT IT TO THE REAR, I'M WONDERING IF THAT WOULD, UM, MAKE THEM EVEN HAVE TO PUSH WELL, DID YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OF YOUR 35 FEET EVEN WITH ADDING THEM TO THE PARKING IN THE REAR? OOPS.
UM, AND SPEAKING, IN TERMS OF ABOUT THE 35 FEET, WOULD THAT IN AND US PLAY ASKING THEM THE PLACE TO PARK INTO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, DID YOUR RECOMMENDATION TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT 35 FEET? YES.
SO YEAH, IF YOU, IF YOU MOVE THE PARKING TO THE REAR, IT WOULD STILL EXCEED THE 35 FOOT MINIMUM.
SO THINK THE 35 FEET IS GOING TO BE A MINIMUM SETBACK.
AND SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PROBABLY MORE THAN TRIPLE THAT DISTANCE FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE.
SO IN EFFECT THE, THE MOVING THE PR THE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING WOULD MOVE THAT BUILDING FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO MOVE IT CLOSER.
UM, SO THE, THE BUILDING, AS YOU SEE SITE PLAN, UM, THE PART OF THE ORIENTATION, RIGHT? YEAH.
CAUSE THINK OF IT AS, SO THE BACKSIDE OF THAT BUILDING IS TOWARDS THE REAR OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE FORT MEN PARKWAY.
AND THEN THE, THE DRIVEWAY TOWARDS THE BOTTOM IS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SO HOW LONG IS THE DRIVEWAY JENNIFER? WELL, I GUESS, YEAH.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S A PRELIMINARY AND THEY DON'T HAVE IT TO SCALE.
BUT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THE DRIVEWAY IS PROBABLY ABOUT 60, 70 FEET IN LENGTH.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JENNIFER BEFORE WE GET THE APPLICANT AND THEN WE'LL, UH, GET READY? WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE TO A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL, BUT, UH, LET'S, LET'S, UH, HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.
HOW ARE YOU, SIR? WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS TAMMY MARTONE.
YOU WANT TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF YOUR PROJECT? SURE.
UM, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS, UM, ABOUT FIVE ACRES OF PROPERTY ON WATCH PLANTATION.
UM, THE PROPERTY, UH, HAS AN INTENTION TO, TO, UH, TO MAKE A MOSQUE OR A CHURCH.
UM, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS A VERY PRELIMINARY DESIGN, UH, OF A, OF A POSSIBLE, UM, CONCEPT, UM, WITH THE BUILDING IN THE BACK AND THEN THE PARKING AND THE, UH, THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH CONNECTS TO THE, UM, TO WATCH PLANTATION.
UM, I KNOW I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO YOU GUYS AND I THINK THE, THE, THE PROPERTY, UM, DID YOU WANT ME TO CALL IT THE LENDER OR THE PROPERTY IS I THINK ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET FROM WASH PLANTATION
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ALL THE WAY BACK TO FORT BEND TOLLWAY.AND, UM, AND IF WE WERE TO MAKE ANYTHING, UM, REGARDING BUILDING SETBACK, I THINK WE WOULD BE MAYBE IN THE SIX TO 700 FEET FROM WATCH PLANTATION HAS A BUILDING SETBACK.
WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE WITHIN THE A HUNDRED OR 200 FEET.
SO THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S INTERESTING.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE BUILDING SET BACK, INCLUDING THE DRIVEWAY WOULD PUT YOU ABOUT 600 FEET INTO THE PROJECT OFF OF WATTS PLANTATION.
WELL, IF YOU, YES, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT IT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW WHERE THE BUILDING IS LOCATED ON THIS DESIGN, RIGHT.
VERSUS WHERE WASP PLANTATION IS, THAT'S PROBABLY AROUND SIX TO 700 FEET FROM WASH PLANTATION.
THAT'S JUST THE LENS OF THE PROPERTY IS IT'S REALLY DEEP ON WHAT'S PLANTATION.
LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE IN READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT SOME THINGS, UM, THIS PARTICULAR MOSQUE OR CHURCH THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN, HOW MUCH ACTIVITY DO THEY HAVE? UM, IS THIS A ONCE A WEEK ASSEMBLY, A TWICE A WEEK? HOW DOES IT THE, THE MAIN ASSEMBLY HAPPENS ON A FRIDAY, UM, AND IT'S USUALLY AT NOON OR ONE O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY.
UM, AND WHEN IT STARTS OFF, IT STARTS OFF VERY SMALL, MAYBE LIKE 20, 30 COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEY SHOW UP AND THEN THEIR FAMILIES GROW.
AND THEN IT JUST, JUST LIKE THE LITTLE SUNDAY, SUNDAY CHURCH SERVICE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHOW UP TO PRAY.
UH, BUT THE MAIN, THE MAIN DAY OR ASSEMBLY IS A FRIDAY AND IT'S AROUND NOON OR ONE O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY.
THAT'S THE MAIN DAY OF ASSEMBLY.
AND HOW MANY, UH, HOW MANY PARISHIONERS DO YOU THINK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, ATTENDING? I KNOW YOU SAID YOU START OFF ABOUT, ABOUT 20 TO 30.
THAT'S JUST HOW IT USUALLY STARTS, UH, YOU KNOW, 20 TO 30 PEOPLE.
AND THEN IT'S JUST BECAUSE THIS IS IN A, UM, IT'S NOT IN LIKE A BUSINESS DISTRICT, IT'S MORE OF LIKE A RESIDENTIAL, UM, OKAY.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ATTEND THE MOSS FOR PRAYERS ON A FRIDAY ARE USUALLY AT WORK, SO THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.
SO ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO ATTEND ARE LIKE THE ONES WHO ARE EITHER WORKING FROM HOME OR, OR THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OFF FROM WORK OR WHATEVER.
BUT, UM, BUT BASED ON THE SURVEY THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE AREA 20 TO 30 PEOPLE STARTING OFF IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING.
IS THIS AN EXISTING, UH, ASSEMBLY CHURCH ASSEMBLY OR IS THIS GOING TO BE A NEW ONE? THIS WOULD BE A BRAND NEW ONE.
AND THIS IS A, UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, PLACE OF ASSEMBLY IN STAFFORD AS WELL.
SO THIS IS LIKE THE, THE EXTENSION FOR STAFFORD, FOR HIM TO SIENNA AND RIVERSTONE AND MISSOURI CITY AREA PRETTY MUCH.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, OF THIS GENTLEMAN? THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVERJET.
AS FAR AS YOUR SERVICES CONCERN, WILL THEY BE ANY SPECIAL EVENTS OUTSIDE THE FRIDAY AND THEY'LL, THERE'LL BE ANY MUSICAL OR SOUND THAT MAY BE HEARD WHILE SERVICES IS BEING HELD? UH, NO, MA'AM, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO MUSIC.
AND THERE IS NO, UM, NO SOUND THAT CAN BE HEARD.
UM, ALL THE PRAYERS ARE PRETTY MUCH DONE WITHIN THE BUILDING AND, UM, OUR PRAYERS DON'T INVOLVE ANY MUSIC OR ANY SORT OF MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS.
UM, SO IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, WE REQUIRED SPEAKERS ARE PRETTY MUCH INSIDE THE BUILDING.
UM, THEY'RE NOT, UH, NO, NO EXTERNAL SPEAKERS OR NO, NO, ANY, NO, NOTHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO THERE'S NOT LIKE A NEW BEFORE YOUR SERVICE, THERE'S NOT ANY CHIMES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE TO? NO, I'M SORRY.
LUCKILY THE, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT.
WHAT IS THE CAPACITY OF THE BUILDING AS IT STANDS NOW?
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IS THIS A QUESTION FOR ME? YES, SIR.AT THIS POINT, THERE IS NO BUILDING THERE.
I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S NO BUILDING, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, AS YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR THE BUILDING, WHAT, WHAT, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL IT ACCOMMODATE? UH, WE ARE PROPOSING A, UH, 9,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND AN AVERAGE PERSON TAKES ABOUT 30 TO 40 SQUARE FEET.
SO IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, PROBABLY LIKE 300 PEOPLE, 400 PEOPLE, I GUESS, AND THIS IS ALL TO HAPPEN PRIMARILY ON A FRIDAY AND EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE OTHER DAYS ADDED.
UM, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, SIR, IS THE, THE LAYOUT OF WATTS PLANTATION.
UM, AND, AND I GUESS WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME TYPE OF CLARIFICATION ON THE TYPES OF CARS ON HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING TO BE COMING TOWARDS THIS WAY.
WE'VE KIND OF GOT THE FRIDAY AT NOON.
UM, AND JUST TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I BANK AT A PARTICULAR LOCATION DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM A MOSQUE, IF YOU WILL.
AND IF I TRY TO GO OVER TO THAT BANK AND TRUST ME, THAT'S FOUR LANES OF WHERE WE CAN GO.
I CAN BARELY GET IN THERE BIG BECAUSE IT'S SO CROWDED AND IT'S SO BUSY.
SO WE'RE JUST FROM MY STANDARD POINT OF VIEW.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
HAD YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT PROCESS IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE TRAFFIC FLOWS WOULD, WOULD BE ON WATTS PLANTATION ROAD, GIVEN THAT IT'S JUST TWO WAYS? UH, WE, WE, I MEAN, UM, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR ME, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
UM, UM, AND, AND WE'VE DONE A STUDY OF THE AREA.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A, UM, THAT WASC PLANTATION IS CURRENTLY NOT A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TWO, TWO LANE ROAD OR A FOUR LANE ROAD, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THE, THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS USUALLY HAPPEN IN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN, CAN, UM, CAN COME AND PRAY.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EXPECT A BANK OR WE DON'T EXPECT A SHOPPING CENTER TO COME NEXT DOOR TO US.
UM, WE DO EXPECT, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO, TO RESIDE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND PRAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO, AND, AND I, I THINK BEFORE THIS LAND WAS, WAS, UH, WAS, WAS, UH, DONATED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
I THINK THERE WAS A STUDY DONE ON A, A PIECE OF LAND TO THE EAST OF THIS.
UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT TO THE EAST OF IT, WHICH ALSO HAD THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR, AND FOR ANOTHER CHURCH ON THE SAME ROAD, UM, I THINK IT'S ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE, UM, UH, LOTS DOWN.
I MAY BE WRONG, BUT SO OF COURSE WE, WE, WE ARE VERY RESPECTFUL PEOPLE AND WE CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND MOST OF OUR MEMBERS WHO WOULD ATTEND LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITIES AROUND THIS PLACE, UH, MOST OF THEM LIVE IN SIENNA.
MOST OF THEM, SOME OF THEM LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AT THE MANNERS.
UM, AND SOME OF THEM MAY EVEN LIVE, UM, FURTHER DOWN.
SO WE HAVE KEPT THAT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR OUR, UM, FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UH, OF COURSE WE WOULD RESPECT THE TRAFFIC.
AND, UM, AND OF COURSE WE WOULD, WE WOULD COOPERATE WITH ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.
SO, SO TO CLARIFY, THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT, THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER DAYS, BUT, BUT YOU, I BELIEVE YOU STATED THAT THIS WOULD BE A FRIDAY NOON TIME THING ONLY, IS THAT CORRECT? OH, I WAS, I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION WHEN I THINK I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION WHEN THE MOST THING, I THINK IT'S FRIDAY IS WHEN THE MAIN DAY OF PRAYER IS WHEN THERE COULD BE, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWING UP, BUT THE, THE MOSQUE OR THE PRAYER HALL IS OPEN THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
AND MAYBE FIVE PEOPLE, MAYBE FOUR PEOPLE, OR MAYBE 10 PEOPLE SHOW UP, UH, FOR LIKE 10 MINUTES, THEY SAY THEIR PRAYERS AND THEY LEAVE.
IT'S NOT A, UM, A TRAFFIC, UH, CONCERN LIKE, BUT FRIDAY IS THE MAIN DAY OF PRAYER.
UH, FRIDAY AT NOON AROUND NOON OR ONE O'CLOCK IS WHEN, UM, WHEN PEOPLE DO SHOW UP TO PRAY, EVEN THOUGH, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT GO ALL ALL DAYS, BUT SOME OF THEM DO SHOW UP ON FRIDAY TO PRAY.
AND, AND DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THE STAFF OR LOCATION? YES.
UH, STANFORD LOCATION IS, IS, IS, UM, IT JUST WENT THROUGH A MAJOR
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RENOVATION AS WELL.UM, AND AFTER 20 YEARS OF, UM, UH, STAFFORD, UH, WE ARE NOW AT A, UH, A, UH, CAPACITY OF 700 PEOPLE AT STAFFORD, BUT THAT'S 20 YEARS IN THE MAKING, RIGHT? SO ON A FRIDAY PRE COVID, MAYBE LIKE 400 PEOPLE SHOWED UP PRE COVID, UH, AND THEN COVID CAME.
AND, UM, AND NOW, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE MONTH OF RAMADAN, UH, SO WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, THAT MOSQUE IS OPERATIONAL IN THE NIGHT.
NOW, SINCE COVID RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN LIFTED, SO ABOUT 200 PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP TO PRAY, UH, IN THE NIGHT AND THEN THEY LEAVE, UM, THE SAME WAY THEY CAME.
AND, AND, AND IF I'M CORRECT, THE, THE ACCESS FREAK THERE IS A, IS A STANDARD TWO LANE ROAD.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS IT ON BRAND A BRAND NAME? YES.
AND I THINK THE BRAND LANE EXPANSION WAS JUST DONE, UM, LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE.
IS IT A FOUR LANE NOW? I THINK, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T, I THINK THEY ADDED, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? LIKE A TURNING, TURNING LANE IN THE MIDDLE? YEAH, THEY ADDED A TURNING LANE AND I, AND I AM, UH, I'VE BEEN GOING TO THAT STAFFORD, UM, THAT STAFFORD MOSQUE FOR ABOUT 20, 21 YEARS.
AND, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS, THIS WATCH PLANTATION AS WELL.
WHY I'M INVOLVED IS BECAUSE MY DAD, UH, MY FATHER WALKED THIS, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND HE, UM, HE DONATED THIS LAND, UH, TO THE ORGANIZATION ON THE 22ND OF NOVEMBER.
I WAS TELLING YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS LAND.
UM, THIS LAND WAS, WAS BOUGHT BY MY DAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND A DAY BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY UNEXPECTEDLY, HE HAD GONE OUT AND DONATED THIS LAND TO THE, TO OUR PARENT ORGANIZATION FOR, FOR THIS PURPOSE.
UM, THIS IS THE REASON WHY I'M INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE, UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE IF I CAN, IF I CAN GET THIS, GET THIS PART TAKEN CARE OF, THEN THE COMMUNITY IN SIENNA, THE COMMUNITY IN RIVERSTONE AND MISSOURI CITY WILL, WILL GRADUALLY BUILD UP ON THIS, ON THIS FACILITY.
AND ONCE THEY HAVE ALL THE LEGAL PERMITS AND PERMISSIONS, THIS IS WHY I'M INVOLVED IN THIS LANE.
SO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF, UH, OF THIS GENTLEMAN.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW INTO THE, UH, COMMENTS AND I HAVE QUITE A FEW THAT HAVE, UH, REQUESTED TO SPEAK I'LL FIRST START WITH THE PROTEST FORMS THAT, UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED ON HAND.
UM, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF HOUSE RULES IN REGARDS TO WHEN YOU SPEAK IN REGARDS TO A PROTEST FROM ONCE YOUR NAME IS CALLED, UH, IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.
WE DO ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND WE ALSO ASK THAT AS THE SPEAKERS MOVE FORWARD, UM, WE WANT TO HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATIVE.
IF YOU FIND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO START REPEATING SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY SAID, DO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD IT, AND WE DO APPRECIATE IT.
FIRST UP WILL BE MR. RICHARD LEWIS IS MR. LEWIS HERE.
AFTER I GO THROUGH ALL OF THE FORMS, ALL THOSE THAT HAVE THEIR HANDS UP TO SPEAK, I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AS WELL.
SO MR. RICHARD LEWIS DID TURN IN A FORM IN REGARDS TO, UM, IN PROTEST OF THE PROJECT, UM, CITING THAT THERE, THAT THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC ISSUES MOVING ON NOW DOWN THE LIST.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND, UM, ESPECIALLY SEEING THE GRAPHIC THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN.
UM, I REPRESENT THE MANNERS AT SILVER RIDGE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS, UM, THIS PROPOSAL FOR THIS MOSQUE AND, UM, UH, MY CONCERN THAT I HAVE, I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS ABOUT PRIMARILY, UM, THAT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S PARKING FOR.
UM, A LOT OF CARS I'VE HEARD UP TO 200.
UM, AND SO, UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING.
THAT IS A TWO LANE ROAD THAT COMES RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS PROPERTY.
UM, SO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A POTENTIALLY A NEGATIVE IMPACT.
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UM, THAT, UH, THERE'LL BE OVERFLOW PARKING ON WATTS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT IS ALSO GONNA COME A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND NOISE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.
AND I DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, FACEBOOK PAGE THAT'S RELATED TO THIS, UM, THIS MOSQUE.
AND, UM, THEY DO HAVE EVENTS POSTED ON DAYS OTHER THAN FRIDAY, THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER ONE THAT HE MENTIONED IN STAFFORD.
UM, BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, OTHER EVENTS, THE ONE THAT I SAW, UH, WAS ON A MONDAY LIKE 9:30 PM.
UM, AND SO MY CONCERN IS THAT AS THEY BUILD UP THEIR MEMBERSHIP, UM, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING IS MORE ACTIVITY AND MORE EVENTS, INCREASED TRAFFIC.
AND, UM, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
WE WILL MOVE NOW A WEEK OR TWO TO SPOKEN TO THIS PERSON JUST ONE MINUTE, BUT A LOT OF SHEETS.
UM, IS THERE A MICHELLE LAYERED WILLIAMS? YES.
WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? YES.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE DERRICK WILLIAMS. I TOO AM A RESIDENT OF THE MANNERS OF SILVER RIDGE, AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY OF THE MANNERS OF SEPARATE RIDGE.
SO THERE ARE SEVERAL CONCERNS THAT THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, UM, IN REGARDS TO THIS PERMISSION OR REQUEST TO OUR USAGE PERMIT, AS WELL AS THE REZONING OF THIS AREA.
AND THE CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT COULD TAKE PLACE THROUGHOUT WATTS.
AND THE MANNERS OF SILVER RIDGE COMMUNITY IS A VERY FAMILY FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.
AND WE TRY TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT DRIVES THROUGH AND AROUND OUR COMMUNITY.
AND BY HAVING OVER TWO OR 300, 400 PEOPLE POTENTIALLY AT A MOSQUE OVER TIME, UM, BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A BUILDING THAT HOLDS NINE THAT'S 9,000 SQUARE FEET CAN SUSTAIN ITSELF WITH 20 OR 30 PEOPLE COMING EVERY FRIDAY.
SO THERE'LL BE DEFINITELY AN INCREASE MEMBERSHIP UPWARDS OF FOUR TO 500 PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE CONVENING ON THIS LOCATION.
THERE ARE OTHER COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS KROGER'S GOING THAT WAY TO THE EAST OR WEST.
AND THE OTHER AREAS WHERE BY HAVING A CHURCH IN ASSEMBLY WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN A TRULY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
IT WOULD ALSO IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VALUE OUR HOMES, BUT IMPACT THE TRAFFIC AND TRACK ASPHALT CAN RESULT IN PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH AND AROUND AS YOU HAVE FOUR OR 500 PEOPLE WAITING IN LINE A LINE, NOT PASSED THROUGH THE MANNERS.
IT CONCERNS US WITH THE KIDS AND MAYBE HOPEFULLY PLAYING IN THE CUL-DE-SACS AND ON THE STREETS.
AND SO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT PROTEST AMONGST THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO THE POINT WHERE THE MEMBERS ARE WILLING TO SIGN A PETITION AND, OR WHATEVER IS REQUIRED TO REALLY HEAR THE PROTEST OF EVERY HOMEOWNER IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO BANKS SHARE THAT, UM, THOSE COMMENTS WITH YOU NOW, AND IF THERE'S A FURTHER INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT ON BEHALF OF THE MANNERS OF SEPARATES.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
WE'LL MOVE NOW TO DINA MURPHY.
MS. MURPHY IS ALSO PROTESTING AGAINST THE PROJECT.
UH, SHE CITES THAT IT WILL HURT THE PROPERTY VALUES, CREATE MORE CONGESTION TRAFFIC.
UM, SHE SITES NATURAL WILDLIFE.
AT THIS TIME, I DO SEE DEBRA EWING.
MA'AM IS YOUR HAND UP TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT? HI, YES.
UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT IF THIS PROPERTY, UM, HOLDS ANY OTHER EVENTS THAT PERHAPS MAYBE WEDDINGS OR, UM, ANY OTHER TYPE OF EVENTS OTHER THAN WORSHIP.
WELL, AS, AS THE GENTLEMAN EXPLAINED EARLIER THAT THERE WILL BE PROBABLE ADDITIONAL EVENTS ON DIFFERENT DAYS.
UM, LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT KIND OF EVENTS MIGHT THOSE BE? I'M PRETTY SURE HERE.
I'M PRETTY SURE MOSQUE IS ONLY FOR PRAYERS.
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WELL, PERHAPS HE WOULD BE BEST SUITED TO GIVE US AN ANSWER.WELL, WELL, THE MOSQUE OF WHOLE THINGS SUCH AS WEDDINGS, NO, A MOSQUE IS NOT A PARTY HALL.
SO IF SOMEONE GOES TO A CHURCH TO GET MARRIED, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY GO THERE, THEY HAVE A PASTOR OR THEY HAVE ANY MOM, THEY CONDUCT THE CEREMONY AND THEN THEY GO PARTY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO A MOSQUE IS NOT A PARTY HALL.
UM, HOWEVER IT IS THE HOUSE OF GOD, LIKE IN ANY RELIGION.
SO IF SOMEONE CHOOSES TO GET MARRIED IN, UM, IN A, UH, IN A MOSQUE, THEY COME THERE, THE BRIDE COMES THERE, THE GROOM COMES THERE AND THEN THEY, THEY HOLD A CEREMONY AND THEN THEY GO OFF ON THEIR OWN WAY.
HOWEVER, RIGHT NEXT TO US, THERE IS A VERY BIG PARTY HALL WHO HAS PARTIES EVERY WEEK.
UM, SO MAYBE THEY CAN PARTY THERE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE, SIR.
I DO KNOW WHAT THE DEFINITION OF A MOSQUE IS.
UM, UM, MR. HANEY, AND, UH, SIR, MIKE, MY QUESTION SIMPLY WAS, WILL THERE BE OTHER EVENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A WEDDING? YOUR ANSWER IS YES, CORRECT? YES.
ARE THERE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION IN REGARDS TO ANYTHING ELSE IN REGARDS TO THIS MATTER? YES, THIS IS ME, KEVIN TRAINEE.
I FILED THE PETITION AS WELL TO, TO SPEAK.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
AFTER REVIEWING THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES AND THE CITY REVIEW, THERE'S SOME FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES ISSUES WITH THE ANALYSIS.
FIRST, THE ANALYSIS IS BASED ON, BASED ON THE APPLICATION, THE APPLICATION STATES THERE'S 200 PLUS CARS WILL BE PRESENT FOR FRIDAY SERVICES.
THIS NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES SHOWN IS 91.
THEREFORE THERE'S INADEQUATE PARKING.
THEREFORE PEOPLE WILL MOST LIKELY NEED TO BE PARKING IN THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS.
I DO NOT FIND THIS ACCEPTABLE.
NUMBER TWO, THE CITY'S ANALYSIS WAS BASED ON 0.2 CARS PER PERSON.
ALTHOUGH THIS MAY BE THE CITY STANDARD.
IT IS WELL BELOW THE AVERAGE FOR MOST PEOPLE TRAVELING IN THE CARS, THE SU ASSUMES THAT A CARS ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPIED, MORE LIKELY NUMBER, BE CLOSER TO 0.33.
THAT MAKES THE NUMBER OF CARS 333 PLUS RIGHT? NUMBER THREE, THE EFFECT ON TRAFFIC WAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE CITY'S ANALYSIS.
LOTS OF PLANTATION DRIVE IS CURRENTLY BOUNDED BY A TRAFFIC LIKE SEEING A PARKWAY AND A STOP SIGN AT NIGHT ROAD.
CURRENTLY WATTS PLANTATION DRIVE CAN ALLOW FOR SIX CARS PER CYCLE TO EXIT ONTO SIENNA PARKWAY IN A TWO MINUTE CYCLE.
THAT MEANS THREE CARS PER MINUTE NIGHT ROAD IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING AN EXTENSION PROJECT MEANS INCREASED TRAFFIC AND POTENTIALLY A LIGHT THERE TOO.
SO I ASSUME THREE CARS PER MINUTE, EXIT THERE.
TWO SUM TOTAL, THAT MEANS A 200 PLUS CARS WILL TAKE 33 MINUTES TO CLEAR OUT THE TRAFFIC JAM WHEN THE PRAYER SERVICE GETS OUT, ASSUMING NOBODY ELSE IS TRAVELING ON THE ROAD, WHICH DURING THIS TIME OF DAY, THERE'S A LOT AS MENTIONED.
IT'S MORE LIKELY WITH THE 300 PLUS CARS, WE'RE TALKING 56 MINUTES TO CLEAR THE TRAFFIC JAM OUT WITH NO ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
NUMBER FOUR, THE BACKUP OCCURS DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE AFTER-SCHOOL BUSING AND CHILD PICKUP EXACERBATING THE PROBLEM.
NUMBER FIVE, THE CITY'S ANALYSIS OCCURRED.
IT SAYS THE TRAFFIC ONLY OCCURS ON FRIDAYS.
AS WE JUST DISCUSSED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WEDDINGS CEREMONIES, EVENING PRAYERS FOR RAMADAN AND OTHER SUCH EVENTS THAT WOULD OCCUR HITTING US WITH THE TRAFFIC AGAIN.
AND NUMBER SIX, THE CITY'S ANALYSIS STATES THAT THE AREA COULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUOTE, SMALLER SCALE OFFICE USES FIRST, THIS AREA ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL, THE ANALYSIS EVEN STATES THE CHARACTER IS DESIGNED FOR OR DESIGNATE AND QUOTE DESIGNATED FOR LARGE LOT DEVELOPMENT.
TYPICALLY ON THE FRINGES OF THE CITY, IF THE ANALYSIS IGNORES ITS OWN STATEMENT, SECOND, IT ASSUMES THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE A SMALL-SCALE OFFICE USERS, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE HERE HAS BEEN QUERIED ON THAT THIRD.
THE ANALYSIS STATES THAT A CHURCH IS A SMALL OFFICE USE 200 PLUS CARS OR MORE LIKELY 300 PLUS CARS IS NOT SMALL SCALE OFFICE USED BASED ON ALL THE ABOVE REASONING.
THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE PROPERTY VALUES.
THERE SHOULD BE NO VALID REASONS STATED TO CHANGE THE ZONING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS REQUESTED.
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REASONING FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH US, SIR.
UH, JIMA, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TOO MUCH IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HOWEVER, WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE ADDITIONAL, UM, PROTESTS FOR THIS CASE.
A CLAUDIA MINER, A CRYSTAL DAVIS, AND A MARY MELVILLE.
WE HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
AND ALL OF THOSE ORIENT, UH, THEY ARE AGAINST, CORRECT? YES MA'AM AGAIN.
IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WHO MADE THE MOTION PLEASE? RASMUS MAKE THE MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER RASMUS MADE THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A COMMISSIONER OVERTON MAY THE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CLOSE, THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, COULD, UH, EXCUSE ME, WOULD YOU GUYS SLIDE, MOVE THE SLIDE UP TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, PLEASE? OKAY.
UM, COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME, WE NEED TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
YOU HAVE, UH, JENNIFER'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU HAVE ALSO HEARD ALL OF THE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THIS AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.
I'LL JUST ASK FOR A MOTION AT FACE VALUE.
NO ONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
HOW ABOUT THIS? IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS, AS PRINTED? ALL RIGHT.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET A MOTION FOR THAT ONE EITHER.
I WILL MAKE SOME MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF'S REPORT AND PASS IT TO COUNSEL.
AT WHICH POINT THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO APPROACH COUNCIL TOO, OR SUR OPINIONS.
THAT MOTION WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD.
IS THERE A MOTION TO AMEND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THIS POSSIBLE PROJECT TO MOVE IT FORWARD? AND IF THERE IS SUCH A MOTION, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE WITH THOSE CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE WITHIN YOUR MOTION? WE DON'T HAVE EMOTION FOR THAT EITHER.
IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE FORWARD THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE? I MEAN, I'M SORRY WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION GUYS.
WELL, YOU HAVE A MOTION SECOND.
IT, UH, YEAH, I GUESS I COULD.
UM, AND THEN YOU CALL THE VOTE AND WE GO FROM THERE.
I MIGHT NOT WANT TO SECOND IT, GIVE ME A SECOND.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, NOT THE ORIGINAL EMOTION, BUT TO MR. BRIGHT WILL'S MOTION, WHERE HE IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL USING ALL OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED.
WE DO HAVE A SECOND BY MR. O'MALLEY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WOULD THAT BE FROM SILVER? YES.
SO WE HAVE THREE EYES, ALL THOSE, NOT IN FAVOR, MISSION OVER TO NOT STAY THERE.
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NOT IN FAVOR.UM, OKAY, SO WE ARE AT A THREE, THREE.
ARE THERE ANY, UM, ANYONE ABSTAINING, MS. LUCAS? ARE YOU VOTING? OKAY.
I JUST NEEDED TO ALSO INFORM THAT COMMISSIONER BAILEY IS NOT ON THE LINE DUE TO AN OUTAGE.
SO WE LOST BAILEY AND WE'VE LOST LUCAS AND, UH, HANY HAD TO, HAD TO LEAVE AS WELL.
SO WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE AT A THREE, THREE, UM, ILLEGAL IT'S SOMEONE FROM LEGAL ON, ON THE CALL BY CHANCE.
HELLO, MR. QUINTEL DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE FOR HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD? CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A THREE, THREE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THREE, THREE? I KNEW THAT, BUT I WAS HOPING I WAS HOPING YOU WERE IN A GOOD MOOD, GOOD MOOD, BUT DO WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM AT THIS POINT? WE DO STILL HAVE A QUORUM.
UM, GLORIA COMMISSIONER LUCAS IS ON THE LINE.
CAN SOMEBODY UNMUTE MS. LUCAS, PLEASE.
WE GOT A LONG AGENDA IS SHE'S CALLING IN ON A PHONE.
I THINK I HAVE AN OUTAGE OVER HERE WITH THE INTERNET, BUT I I'M.
UM, WHERE WE'RE AT THE STAGE, MS. LUCAS, WHERE WE HAVE CALLED FOR A VOTE.
AND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO FORWARD THIS ON TO CITY COUNCIL WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS THEY ARE WRITTEN, AND EVERYONE HAS VOTED EXCEPT FOR YOU.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THAT OR NOT IN FAVOR? OKAY.
SO IT'S A NOT IN FAVOR, RIGHT? SO THE MOTION IS FOR THE ALTA COUNCIL WITH SAF, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT? YES.
WOULD THAT BE THAT'S COMMISSIONER OVERTON, CORRECT? NO, THIS IS COMMISSIONER.
SO WE'VE GOT LUCAS, MYSELF, OVERTON AND RASMUS AS NO.
AND WE HAVE THREE YESES, WHICH WOULD BE THE CONJUNCT ONE, UH, BRIGHTWELL O'MALLEY AND SILVER.
AND, UM, IT WON'T BE GOING TO WA UH, JOE, DO WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER MOTION OR CAN THEY JUST TAKE THAT, THAT WE MEAN THAT IT'S A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
IF THE COMMISSION IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THEN OH YEAH, WE GOTTA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, MR. JOE, THANK YOU FOR HELPING US OUT HERE.
SO NOW WE'RE STILL BACK AT SQUARE ONE.
WE, WE HAVE NOT MADE A RECOMMENDATION
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ON, UH, SENDING IT TO COUNCIL.SO IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE IT TO COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION? I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THE W THE MOTION WAS THAT, UH, WE MOVE IT TO CAMP.
I MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE IT TO COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
THE MOTION IS TO MOVE IT TO COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MS. RASMUS.
I COULD BARELY HEAR YOU, BUT I THINK I HEARD A SECOND, CORRECT.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT? I FORGOT TO ASK ON THE LAST ONE.
THANK YOU, MR. BRAGG, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? SO SINCE IT'S A, SINCE IT'S AN SUP AND IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US THIS WAY IN A PUBLIC FORUM, AND THEN WE EITHER VOTE FOR IT TO GO FORWARD OR NOT, ARE WE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE EITHER A POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION? ACCORDING TO LEGAL? WE ARE, I KNOW A LONG TIME AGO, MR. BRIGHTWELL, WE DIDN'T SOME KIND OF WAY UNDER WE'VE CHANGED.
SO, SO DOES THE AGENDA ITEM REQUIRE US TO PUT IT FORWARD WITH A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION? QUINTILES? I'M HERE.
SO A RECOMMENDATION NEEDS TO BE MADE, UH, IN MY OPINION.
SO, UM, YOU'VE GOT TO, YOU'VE GOT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS, UH, ON THIS SUP ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
BACK TO THAT, IF YOU READ EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS, IT SAYS ON THE SEVEN 80 TO CONSIDER APPROVING A FINAL REPORT ON ITEM SEVEN, EIGHT, OR ONE, THAT MEANS EITHER WE APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SEND IT FORWARD WITH A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
I'M READING WHAT YOUR YOU'RE, UH, THE AGENDA ITEM CONSIDER APPROVING A FINAL REPORT ON SEVEN 81.
SO WE'VE CONSIDERED IT AND WE'VE DISAPPROVED IT.
MY OPINION IS WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER.
WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER MOTION AND WE'VE CONSIDERED THAT ITEM AND THAT'S IT.
WE DON'T NEED TO GIVE IT A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE.
YOU ARE RIGHT, BECAUSE THE AGENDA ITEM IS FOR CONSIDERING THE APPROVAL OF THE FINAL REPORT WITH, UH, SO IF IT WASN'T APPROVED IT, WASN'T APPROVED.
UM, MR. QUINTON, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM, THE FINAL, THE LAST MOTION THAT WAS PLACED ON THE TABLE WITH A MOTION, PLEASE BE MADE TO WITHDRAW THAT MOTION, MOTION TO SUBMIT IT TO COUNCIL, UH, WITH, UH, NEGATIVE STAFF APPROVAL.
MA'AM WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
THE MOTION IS HERE BY A PULLBACK.
[7.B. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT]
SEVEN.B DOES THAT MEAN IT'S GOING TO CANCEL? IT'S GOING TO COUNCIL, BUT IT'S GOING TO COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
NOT APPROVED, NOT APPROVED AS STATED IN THE REPORT.
IT'S STILL GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL.
IT'S JUST BEEN DISAPPROVED AT THE, AT OUR LEVEL, AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING LEVEL, WE DIDN'T PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE DID NOT APPROVE THE FINAL REPORT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
I THINK THAT WAS CORRECT, BECAUSE I HAD MADE THE MOTION TO GO TO COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE WITHOUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS THAT COMMERCIAL, CORRECT.
MADAM CHAIR, YOU KIND OF GO OFF OF THE RECORD OFF OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WAS MADE.
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MOTION THAT WAS MADE WAS THIS FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL AT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, THAT MOTION FAILED.THEREFORE WE ARE DONE WITH IT.
IT WILL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY OUR ORDINANCES ARE WRITTEN.
AND CITY COUNCIL WILL STILL REVIEW THIS PROJECT JUST THE SAME WAY WE DID ON TONIGHT.
AND I BELIEVE THEY REVIEW IT ON MAY 3RD.
HOWEVER, THEY WILL REVIEW IT WITH OUR COMMENTS AND THEY WILL SEE THAT WE DID NOT APPROVE THE REPORT AS PRESENTED ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER OVERTON.
I HAVE A QUESTION IN THAT YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO SEND IN A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
ARE THERE TIMES IN WHICH YOU DO YOU DECLINE TO SEND ANY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL TO ALWAYS SEND THEM RECOMMENDATION IF POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE? I THINK I, WE PROBABLY NEED TO PROBABLY KIND OF DISCUSS THAT IN MAYBE MORE OF A RENTAL WORKSHOP FORUM.
THEY BASED ON WHAT MR. UH, BRIGHTWELL SHARED WITH US, WHAT'S WRITTEN ON THE ACTUAL AGENDA AS TO WHAT WE WERE TO BE APPROVING ON TONIGHT.
RIGHT? SO MAYBE JENNIFER, IF YOU COULD, WE, WE PROBABLY REALLY DO NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UH, TRAINING AND SOMETHING HERE ON THIS, BECAUSE, UM, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, BRIGHTWELL IS RIGHT.
WE'D BEEN AROUND FOR, FOR A LONG TIME.
AND FOR YEARS, WE DID NOT HAVE TO DO TWO MOTIONS.
IF, IF WE VOTED IT DOWN, THAT IS WHAT IT WAS.
AND SOME KIND OF WAY WE'VE GOTTEN INTO THIS PRACTICE OF IF WE VOTED DOWN AND WE GOT TO KEEP HAVING ALL OF THESE MOTIONS.
SO I REALLY DO ACT IMPLORE WITH CITY STAFF THAT WE GET SOME TYPE OF CLARIFICATION ON THAT, BUT I'D RATHER DO THAT IN A FORUM, UH, WHERE WE CAN BE TRAINED.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE SOMETHING IN WRITING THOUGH.
IT'S NOT UP TO INTERPRETATION.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
SO, UM, WE'LL ADD A WORKSHOP, UM, FOR THIS, AND I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, SAY FOR THE ZONING AMENDMENT, IT DOES REQUIRE A RECOMMENDATION AND REPORT.
UM, AND SO I THINK WHEN YOU VOTED IT DOWN IN THE PAST, IT'S BEEN FORWARDED AS A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN WHEN YOU FOLDED IT, UM, UP IN THE PAST, IT'S BEEN FORWARDED AS A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, BUT IT'S ALWAYS ACCOMPANIED BY A REPORT, A FINAL REPORT, UM, FROM THE COMMISSION THAT GOES TO THE COUNCIL OF, FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
ARE WE READY TO MOVE FORWARD? YES, WE ARE.
MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN B, YOU GOT IT.
THIS IS ALSO A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR A PD WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THE REQUESTS FOR FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF HOUSTON TO AMEND PD NUMBER 35 ORDINANCE ZERO 1328 TO ALLOW FOR THE LOCATION OF AN AUTOMOBILE PARKING LOT WITHIN TRACT ONE 1121.
JENNIFER, TAKE MYSELF OFF OF MUTE.
UM, PD 35, THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ENTIRE PD IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN OUTLINED IN BLACK, UM, AND INCLUDES PROPERTY ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF SIENNA RANCH ROAD, UM, NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SIENNA PARKWAY.
UH, THE SUBJECT OF THIS PD AMENDMENT IS REGARDING, UH, THE, UH, FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH LOCATION AS THEY CURRENTLY OWN THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN BLUE.
UH, THEY HAVE A TWO-STORY BUILDING, UH, THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AS A COMMERCIAL RETAIL CENTER.
UM, THEY ACQUIRE THE ENTIRE BUILDING, UM, IN THE SITE, UM, AND HAVE BEEN OPERATING A CAMPUS LOCATION THERE.
SO THE CHURCH HAS MADE THIS APPLICATION TO EXPAND THEIR CAMPUS.
UM, PART OF THEIR CONSIDERATION FOR EXPANSION, UM, WOULD INCLUDE, UM, ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS ON THE CAMPUS, UM, AND THEN ASSOCIATED PARKING.
UH, SO THEY INTEND TO USE THE AREA, ALL THE AREA THAT'S OUTLINED IN BLUE FOR THAT CHURCH EXPANSION.
UM, BUT ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE AREA THAT'S OUTLINED IN RED, UM, AS, UM, AN ADDITIONAL PARKING AREA.
AND SO THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT PARKING LOT, NOT CONTIGUOUS
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TO, UM, THE AREA IN BLUE.UM, IT'S SEPARATED BY A PRIVATE STREET, UM, THAT APPEARS AS A PUBLIC STREET, BUT IT IS A PRIVATE STREET.
UM, AND SO THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT PARKING LOT AS AN ACCESSORY USE, UH, TO THE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY CHURCH USE, UM, IN THE AREA THAT'S OUTLINED IN BLUE.
AND THE KEY THERE FOR THE COMMISSION TO KNOW IS THAT A PARKING LOT ITSELF IS A USE BY RIGHT IN OUR L C4, WHICH IS OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UH, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, USED AS LIKE A USED CAR LOT, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF JUST A PARKING LOT FACILITY WITHOUT ANY KIND OF MAIN BUILDING, UM, IT IS A STATED PERMITTED USE IN THAT LC FOUR DISTRICT.
UM, SO THIS PD WOULD, OR THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CHURCH TO USE THIS PROPERTY SOLELY AS A PARKING LOT, BUT IN ASSESSORY TO, UH, THE MAIN USE, UH, IN THE AREA THAT'S OUTLINED IN BLUE.
UM, SO THERE ARE, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE DOES SHOW THE SITE PLAN THAT THE CHURCH SUBMITTED, UH, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO SEE, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A CLEARER VIEW OF HOW THIS WILL BE LAID OUT, UH, THE EXISTING BUILDING IN THAT, UH, PALE, UH, ORANGE COLOR, THE NEW BUILDINGS AND THE DARKER ORANGE COLOR, UM, AND THEN THE ASSOCIATED PARKING, UM, INSIGHT WORK THAT WOULD GO ALONG, UH, TO SUPPORT THOSE BUILDINGS.
AND THEN THIS FINAL SLIDE IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
SO THE PARKING LOT, UM, WE'RE ONLY GONNA MAKE IT FOR ASSESSORY USE FOR THE CHURCH ONLY, RIGHT.
SO WE'RE GONNA JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE SOLELY FOR THAT PURPOSE.
THAT THAT'S, THAT'S MY THINKING, AT LEAST ON THAT, IS THAT KIND OF WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS LEANING TOWARDS? YES, AND I FELT HE MENTIONED THAT IT IS A LIE, UM, AND I BELIEVE, UH, MEMBERS FROM THE CHURCH, UM, ARE ON THE LINE AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, OF JENNIFER FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? GO AHEAD, MR. BRIGHTWELL, FIRST THING IS THE DEFINITION OF TRACKED ONE 11 DASH 21.
IS THAT WITHIN THE OVERALL PD 35 AND THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHURCH? YES.
AND SO, UM, THAT, CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT AREA? PICTURE ONE BACK ONE MORE.
SO YEAH, SO PD PD 35, UM, THERE'S AN EXHIBIT THAT DIVIDES UP ALL THAT ACREAGE WITHIN THE BLACK OUTLINE IN TWO DIFFERENT TRACKS.
SO LIKE THE BAINES MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ON A SEPARATE TRACK.
UM, AND THEN EVERYTHING, UH, WHERE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCHES, I WENT IN BLUE PLUS THE LITTLE SEGMENT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT ROAD, ALL OF THAT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SAME TRACK.
AND SO THAT TRACK HAS PERMITTED USES FOR, UM, CERTAIN COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES.
AND THEN IT ALLOWS FOR ONE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, WHICH IS, UH, THE HOUSTON BAPTIST CHURCH.
THE NEXT QUESTION IS WITH REGARDS TO THE PRIVATE DRIVE THAT PRIVATE DRIVE OR THAT PRIVATE ROAD BELONGS TO THE OVERALL PD AND THEY MAINTAIN THAT.
SO I BELIEVE IT'S IN A OWNERSHIP ENTITY FOR A SIENNA, ONE OF THE, UM, SEEING A PROPERTIES.
AND SO IT WOULD, IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION RIGHT NOW, OR THE DEVELOPER THAT OWNS AND MAINTAINS THAT PROPERTY AND THAT OWNERSHIP TRANSFERS AT WHAT POINT.
AND THERE'S A METHOD TO MY, MY QUESTIONING.
AND IT, IT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO TRANSFERRING THAT OWNERSHIP UNLESS, UH, SIENNA, UM, SELLS IT.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT SO IT'S PLOTTED AS AN ACCESS RESERVE.
UM, SO IF IT IS EVER SOLD TO ANOTHER ENTITY IN THE FUTURE, ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ACCESS ALONG THAT ROAD, UM, ACCESS WOULD STILL BE PROVIDED FOR THEM THROUGH THAT ACCESS EASEMENT.
SO THEN THEY, THEY ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE.
SO THE, SO ALL THE PROPERTIES AND WHATEVER'S TIED INTO THAT LLC, THAT OWNS THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ROADWAY MAINTENANCE.
OH, ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT, UM, IF THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF AGREEMENTS.
UM, SO I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY DIRECT AGREEMENTS THAT THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE,
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UH, TO MAINTAIN IT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE PROVIDED THE ACCESS, BUT I BELIEVE ONE OF THE CNN ENTITIES THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.SO THAT LEADS ME TO THE FINAL.
SO THE, THE PARKING THAT'S ADJACENT OR ACROSS THE ROADWAY.
AT LEAST AS IT'S DRAWN NOW IN THE EXHIBIT BASICALLY SHOWS THREE MID-BLOCK CROSSWALKS THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE NOT CONTROLLED FOR A VERY LARGE PARKING LOT.
SO I GUESS WHAT I'M BASICALLY SAYING IS THEY WOULD NEED TO CONTROL THAT ROADWAY AS WELL AS THE, ANY MARKINGS OR SIGNAGE TO BASICALLY PREDICT PEDESTRIANS ACCESSING THEIR FACILITY FROM THAT PARKING AREA THAT'S TIED TO THAT TRACT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY? YES.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HOW STRIPING AND MARKINGS AND ALL THAT GETS LIKE NOT MAINTAINED.
AND THE THING, UM, CHAD, ARE YOU ALL ON THE LINE? YES, THIS IS, THIS IS CHAD HAM WITH THE CHURCH AND THEN PASTOR MALCOLM IS ALSO ON THE LINE.
AND WOULD YOU, UM, GIVE MR. BRIGHTWELL A LITTLE BACKGROUND IN REGARDS TO HIS QUESTION AS TO HOW THAT PARKING, UH, IS SET UP AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO CONTROL THAT TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGH THERE? SURE.
SO, SO WE WILL PRIMARILY USE THIS PARKING LOT ON SUNDAY MORNINGS.
UM, THAT'S THE PRIMARY TIME THAT IT WOULD GET USED IN? WE, WE DO HAVE, UM, WITH OUR CAMPUSES, TYPICALLY WE HAVE SEVERAL POLICE OFFICERS.
AND SO WE WOULD, WOULD CERTAINLY, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT I ENVISIONED THAT WE WOULD USE A POLICE OFFICER AT THAT MAIN CROSSWALK FROM THE, UH, THE A HUNDRED SPACE LOT ACROSS THE STREET, TOWARDS THE NEW BUILDING TO, TO PROVIDE SOME SAFETY THERE.
AND REALLY THAT'S THE ONLY CROSSWALK I REALLY ENVISIONED IS THAT MAIN, THAT MAIN ONE RIGHT THERE AT THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT.
SO I GUESS, AND I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO FLAGMEN AND TRAFFIC APP, BUT I'M MOSTLY CONCERNED THAT IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE OVERALL PARKING LOT.
AND ANY OF THE TRAFFIC CONTROL AND PEDESTRIAN ITEMS ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED AND WILL BE MAINTAINED BY WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M COMING TO.
I THINK THESE GUYS ARE USED TO KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
NOT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FLAGMEN THERE ARE TRAFFIC POLICE, BUT THE, THE, UH, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE, OF THE SIGNAGE AND THE STRIPING AND ALL THAT, AS WELL AS THE RESPONSIBILITY, UH, STAYS OR TRANSFERS IN THE LONG RUN, WHAT THE CHANGES WERE ALONE.
WELL, WE'LL CERTAINLY MAINTAIN EVERYTHING ON OUR PROPERTY.
WE WOULD NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THE SIENNA ASSOCIATION OR THE RIGHT ENTITY THAT CHARGES US THE ANNUAL FEE FOR THAT PRIVATE STREET MAINTENANCE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE PUTTING THE CROSSWALK DOWN, UH, IN TERMS OF THE PAINTING.
I AGREE THAT THAT'S REALLY MY POINT.
CAUSE MID-BODY, MID-BLOCK CROSSWALKS, PARTICULARLY IF THIS WAS A PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, IT'D BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
I'M SURE OUR ENGINEERING GROUP WOULD, SORRY.
SO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT WHILE HE IS QUEUED UP AND ON THE MIC? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.
I JUST HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU WOULD, UH, COORDINATE WITH THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO KEEP THAT MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER.
SO DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THAT WITH IT? THE HOMEOWNERS IN THAT AREA? I SHOULD HAVE SAID WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD THIS REVIEWED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID HOMEOWNERS.
IF I SAID THAT WE HAVE SHOWN THIS PARTICULAR, UM, OVERVIEW PLUS, UH, QUITE A BIT MORE WITH THE PROPERTY ASSOCIATION.
AND AT THIS POINT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY FURTHER FEEDBACK, UH, ON OUR PLANS OTHER THAN A COUPLE OF LANDSCAPING COMMENTS.
SO THEY HAVE SEEN AND HAVE GIVEN US A VERBAL OKAY.
AND WE DID ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT CENTER CROSSWALK ON THAT, ON THAT ZOOM CALL.
COMMISSIONER OVERTON, YOU HAD A QUESTION.
I WAS CURIOUS HOW MANY ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS? SO, SO THE, THE ONE THAT'S IN QUESTION TONIGHT IS THE ONE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET AND THAT'S RIGHT AT A HUNDRED SPACES IS THE PARKING LOT IN QUESTION.
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AND THEN OUR OVERALL FACILITY PARKING WOULD BE ABOUT 240 SPACES, MAYBE A FEW SPACES LESS THAN THAT.UM, CERTAINLY THIS WOULD BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT OF OUR OVER OVERALL PARKING.
ARE YOU GUYS BACK? ARE YOU GUYS BACK TO HAVING CHURCH AS OF YET GIVEN A COVID YES.
AND YOU'RE PRETTY FULL ALREADY, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT AS FULL AS, UH, WORD PRE COVID, PRE COVID.
WE WERE RUNNING MAYBE 600 PEOPLE ON A SUNDAY MORNING.
MAYBE A LITTLE LESS, BUT IT'S STARTING TO REALLY COME BACK HERE RECENTLY.
I THINK I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP KIND OF A CENTRAL CAMPUS AND PUTTING THE PARKING ON THE PARKING ON THE EDGES.
I THINK AS LONG AS YOU CAN KEEP IT SAFE AND KEEP EVERYBODY CONTROLLED, THERE'S A GOOD APPROACH TO THIS KIND OF ROUNDED PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE TOWARDS, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, ANY PROTESTS OR SUPPORT SHEETS HERE BEFORE ME.
UM, MR. CHIMA, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT, UH, WANTING TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM THERE'S NO ONE.
I DO SEE, UH, MARY ROSS'S HAND IS UP MS. ROSS, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
I DID SUBMIT A PROTEST TODAY AND, UM, YES, MY SON, MY SUBDIVISION IS THE CREEK NOT SUBDIVISION.
UM, I CHANGE MY PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, BECAUSE I JUST DISCOVERED SOMETHING AND THAT'S THAT FOR? I'M SPEAKING AGAINST, UH, THE APPROVAL OF 70 WE'RE ON SEVEN B AS IN BOY, OR ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK? OKAY.
UM, I'M CHANGING SOME THINGS THAT I LOOKED UP.
I'LL GET TO YOU ON E DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO BE THEM? YOU HAVE MY APOLOGIES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CALL, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND I AS WELL.
SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPORT AS WRITTEN? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HARASSMENTS.
IS THERE A SECOND? IS THAT COMMISSIONER LUCAS? OKAY.
WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AND I AS WELL, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[7.C. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT]
ITEM SEVEN C ALSO ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.AND THAT'S A BEFORE PD, WE'LL RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR HER AGAINST THE REQUEST BY JOE DOUGLAS.
WELL HAVE AIA WEB ARCHITECTS TO A MAN PD DISTRICT, NUMBER 96 TO REVISE THE SITE PLAN AND AMEND THE REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, INCLUDING, UH, AMENDMENTS TO USE REGULATIONS, ET CETERA.
UM, PD 96 IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN OUTLINED IN BLACK.
THIS IS AN AREA TO THE WEST OF THE FOREGROUND PARKWAY.
UM, NORTH PRIMARILY OF LIKE OLYMPIA WITH, UH, THE INTERSECTION OF LIKE OLYMPIA AND VICKSBURG INCLUDED, UH, WITHIN THE PD AND THEN IT'S TO THE EAST OF THE PARKS SUBDIVISION.
THIS IS A LAND USE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED WITH, UH, PD 96, UM, SHOWING THE DISTRIBUTION OF USES PROPOSED WITHIN OTHER PD.
SO THERE'S NO CHANGES BEING PROPOSED BY THIS AMENDMENT TO THIS LAND USE PLAN.
UM, BUT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WOULD IMPACT, UH, THE AREA THAT'S SHOWN IN THE YELLOW, UH, TOWARDS THE TOP, UM, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED AS THE MID DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
UM, AND THEN THE AREA SHOWN IN BROWN,
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UH, WHICH IS THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.UM, AND THEN ALSO THE AREA SHOWN IN, UH, THE ORANGE TANGERINE KIND OF COLOR, UH, WHICH IS A MIXED USE AREA.
UM, AND THEN ALL OF THE AREAS SHOWN IN THE, THE, UH, PALE, UM, COLOR, WHICH IS THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
SO THE PROPOSED ONE OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UM, THIS IS THE MID DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT'S SHOWN IN YELLOW ON THAT LAND USE PLAN.
UM, THIS IS A PROPOSED PROJECT BY, UH, THE WILBERG CORPORATION, UM, THAT IS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, UM, ON A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT.
UM, THEY ARE SEEKING A, UM, DEVIATION TO THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, UM, TO ALLOW FOR A 20 FOOT BUILDING PAD SITES ON APPROXIMATELY 40 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
UM, SO THE TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT THEY WANT TO INSTALL HERE, UM, WOULD PROVIDE, UM, REDUCE SIDE YARDS BETWEEN BUILDINGS, UM, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING, OR THEY'RE PROPOSING A MINIMUM THREE FEET BETWEEN BUILDINGS, UM, WITH A REDUCED FRONT YARD, A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET.
UH, THIS, THIS IS A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE, UM, IN THE HOUSTON AREA, UM, OR, UM, IN THIS REGION.
AND IT MAY BE SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE, UM, WHERE YOU SEE HOW CLOSE THOSE HOMES ARE IN PROXIMITY, THE SMALLER, UH, REDUCED FRONT YARD, BUT YOU SEE THE TYPE OF PRODUCT, UM, THAT THEY WOULD, UH, LOOK TO OFFER HERE.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SUMMARIZED THIS, UH, WOULD INCLUDE AN APPROVAL TO AN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR AGE RESTRICTED.
RESIDENTIAL USES WHERE ASSISTED LIVING USES ARE PERMITTED, UM, WITHIN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT AND THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD STUFF, SUBDISTRICT.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE WHAT I JUST SUMMARIZED FOR THE WILBERT CORPORATION, UM, APPROVING EVER REDUCED FRONT YARD SETBACK, UM, FOR THE MID DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON, UH, THE SIDE YARDS IS NOT TO APPROVE, UH, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AT A MINIMUM THREE FEET, UH, BETWEEN LOTS, BUT TO STILL REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET.
UM, AND THAT WOULD RESULT IN 10 FEET, UM, BETWEEN HOMES, UM, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES, UM, IS TYPICALLY WHERE YOU HAVE SOME UTILITY PLACEMENT, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, DESIGNS FOR A FIRE, UM, MITIGATION.
UM, THE CITY HAS NOT ADOPTED A BUILDING CODE THAT AMENDS, UH, THOSE SETBACKS.
UM, AND SO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE TO MAINTAIN, UM, WHAT THE CITY HAS IMPOSED, UM, ON, UH, MINIMUM SETBACKS BETWEEN STRUCTURES, UM, THE APPLICANT, WELL BELL CORPORATION.
WE MET WITH THEM EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UM, THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE HOUSTON AREA PRIMARILY, UM, THAT HAVE ADOPTED THIS, UH, REDUCED SETBACK.
UM, WE JUST HAVEN'T SEEN IT, UM, IN MISSOURI CITY.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAINTAIN THAT, BUT THE COMMISSION COULD, UH, CONSIDER, UM, A DIFFERENT ROUTE ON THAT.
UM, THE ADDITIONAL, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT ARE, UM, TO REDUCE THE FRONT YARD SETBACKS FOR THE MIXED USE AREAS, UM, TO THE WIDTH OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH WOULD BE A REDUCTION BY ABOUT 10 FEET.
SO INSTEAD OF A 30 FOOT SETBACK, IT WOULD BE A 20 FOOT SETBACK, UM, AND MAINTAIN REAR YARD SETBACKS FOR THOSE DISTRICTS.
THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST IN THIS, UH, PD AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, UM, FOR BUILDINGS WITHIN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS THE MIXED USE DISTRICT, UM, FROM WHAT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED AT FOUR STORIES, MAX HEIGHT, 45 FEET.
AND, UH, THEIR PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE THAT TO SIX STORIES, MAX HEIGHT, 90 FEET.
AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UH, SUPPORT, UM, THAT, UM, THAT AMENDMENT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE.
UM, I KNOW THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY NOT AS CLEAR.
SO THERE MAY BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, JOE WEBB, UM, IN THE DEVELOPER ARE ON THE LINE.
UM, AND THEN I'M ON THE, UM, I CAN ANSWER ANY THAT THE PERMISSION HAS AS WELL.
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THANK YOU, JENNIFER, FOR THE REPORT.UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JENNIFER BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVERTON, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE HIGH FROM FOUR STORIES TO SIX STORIES COMMISSIONER OVER AND SAID YES.
SO, UH, CAN YOU, UM, GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE, THE DIFFERENT LAND USES ONE, ONE MORE? I THINK THAT ONE, SO, UM, THE REQUEST FOR THE INCREASE IN HEIGHT WOULD BE IN THOSE AREAS SHOWN IN THAT THE PALE, UM, ORANGE COLOR AND THEN, UH, THE DARKER ORANGE COLOR.
SO THE T AND D THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT, UM, IS THAT AREA RIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION OF THE FORBIDDEN PARKWAY, UM, AND LIKE THE OLYMPIA GOING INTO THE PROPERTY AND THEN THE MIXED USE AREA.
THERE'S TWO MIXED USE AREAS ALONG, UH, LIKE OLYMPIA AND THEN THERE'S ONE, UM, INTERNAL TO THE SITE.
SO THERE, THE PROPOSAL THAT THE, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED WILL BE TO ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE OF HEIGHT IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.
CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT THE DEFINITION OF A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT SUBDISTRICT IS? YES, I CAN DO THAT.
SO THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT IS ESTABLISHED BY THE PD ALREADY, AND SO IT WOULD IT'S, UH, DESCRIBED AS COMPACT FORMS OF BUILDINGS, UM, STREETSCAPES DESIGNED ON A HUMAN SCALE, UH, CONSISTING OF A MIXED USE CENTER, UM, THAT MIGHT HAVE OFFICE RETAIL, HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND PUBLIC SPACES.
UM, IT WOULD HAVE INTERCONNECTED STREETS ON STREET PARKING, SINGLE TRAVEL LANES FOR CARS, WHY THEIR SIDEWALKS WIDER SIDEWALKS WITH SHADE TREES, UM, PATHS IN A GRID PATTERN THAT PROVIDE MULTIPLE ROUTES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME, UM, WITHIN THAT KIND OF CONCEPT, IT'S, IT'S THE ONE FOR MORE URBAN, UM, KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, UM, WHERE YOU HAVE A DENSER, YOU KNOW, UM, DID SORT USE OF THE BUILDINGS.
SO YOU MAY HAVE MORE ACTIVITY IN THE VERTICAL BUILDINGS AND THEN MORE OPEN SPACE, COMMON SPACE, UM, ON THE GROUND FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE GATHERING SPACES AS WELL.
SO THEN ULTIMATELY THE 90 FOOT GIVES THEM RETAIL DOWN AND LIVING SPACE UP AS WELL AS MAYBE PARKING STACKED.
SO KIND OF LIKE MIDTOWN, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES DEVELOPED AND USED IT, UM, LET'S GO, MAN.
IS, DID I HEAR YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A GROUP HOME? OKAY.
AL WHAT YOU DID BRING UP WAS THE AGE RESTRICTION AND THE AGE RESTRICTION WAS TIED TO WHERE AGAIN, PLEASE, JENNIFER.
WELL, LET ME, LET ME UNMUTE MYSELF.
AGE RESTRICTION OR THERE'S A REQUEST, OR WE'RE ALLOWING FOR AGE RESTRICTED AREAS WITHIN WHAT DISTRICTS IN HERE.
SO AGE, AGE RESTRICTED, UM, WOULD BE TIED TO THE ASSISTED LIVING.
AND I THINK, UM, JOE WEBB, IF YOU WANT TO, UM, CLARIFY ON THIS AS WELL, UM, THE REPORT HAS IT ONLY TIED TO THE ASSISTED LIVING, WHICH WOULD BE IN THOSE MIXED USE AREAS.
UM, SO THAT LIKE ORANGE, THE BRIGHT, THE BRIGHTER ORANGE COLOR, AND THEN ALSO IN THAT TNB AREA, UM, THE INTENT MAY ALSO BE IN THE MULTIFAMILY.
CAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS THE COMMISSION KNOWS WITH, UM, SOME MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, UH, WE'VE SEEN THE AGE RESTRICTION ON, UM, THE MARKETING FOR SOME OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
UM, SO IT MAY BE THOSE WORKAROUND AREAS IN ADDITION TO THE ORANGE
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AND THEN THE PALE AREAS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED RIGHT NOW.IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE AGE RESTRICTED IS NOT TIED TO ANYTHING BUT THE OVERALL PD.
SO IT WOULDN'T, NONE OF, NONE OF THESE WOULD AFFECT THAT BRIGHT RED, THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.
UM, NONE OF THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD AFFECT WHAT IMPACT THOSE AREAS.
UM, AND THEN NONE OF THE LOWER SEPARATE THE AGE RESTRICTED WOULD NOT IMPACT THE, UH, MID DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OR THE GREEN SPACE OPEN SPACE THAT'S SHOWN ON THAT BACKSIDE.
SO THEN MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS WHY DO WE CARE ABOUT WHETHER IT'S A RESTRICTOR OR NOT, IF THAT'S A MARKETING ITEM AND POTENTIALLY KEEPS SOME PEOPLE FROM LIVING THERE THAT MAYBE COULD.
AND I THINK, UM, JOE WEBB, IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN, ON WHAT YOU ALL ARE GOING FOR WITH THE AGE RESTRICTION TYPICALLY FOR, FOR THE CITY WE'VE SAME AGE RESTRICTION, UM, WHEN WE'RE JUST SOLELY TALKING ABOUT A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE THE MOST HIGH FAMILY ALLOCATION, IT CAN BE AGE RESTRICTED OR NOT.
UM, WHAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IS THE PARKING.
I THINK THAT THE LAST SITE WAS THE PARKING THAT'S COMMISSIONER BRIGHT, WELL, LET ME, LET ME CLARIFY ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE NO, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE AGE RESTRICTION IS LINKED IS, UM, BECAUSE PART OF THIS REQUESTED AMENDMENT IS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING.
AND, UM, SO ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT REDUCTIONS IS, UM, ON PARKING SPACES FOR AGE RESTRICTED FACILITIES.
AND SO IF, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A DEVIATION FOR THE AGE RESTRICTION, UM, THEN THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS WOULD BE APPLIED.
UM, SO THIS, THE AGE RESTRICTION, UM, IS CORRELATED WITH THAT PARKING DEVIATION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, BUT I GUESS I'M STILL CONCERNED THAT THE CITY IS DICTATING AGE WITH REGARDS TO DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S KIND OF BUGGING ME, YOUR HONOR.
UH, THE, THE RESTRICTED IS PRIMARILY DEAD RIGHT NOW TO THE FAMILY IN THE TWO, WHAT I'LL CALL IT, BROWN SHADE TRACKS, THE SMALL SMALLER THERE, AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S SQUARE TO.
THERE IS NO ASSISTED LIVING AT THE LIVING AT THE MOMENT.
UH, DON'T ANTICIPATE AT THAT POINT, IT MAY BE A POTENTIAL AT SUBTLE.
AT SOME POINT IN TIME, IT MAY HAPPEN DOWN IN, IN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT MAY EVEN HAVE THOSE VERTICAL, VERTICAL HIGH RISE TYPE SITUATION THAT AT THE MOMENT THE, UH, THE, THE, THE ADRIAN IS TO THAT SMALLER OF THE TWO, WHAT I WILL CALL BROWN TRUSTS, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S ON THAT SITE.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHY WE'RE LEGISLATING AGE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, OR HOW WE ENFORCE PARKING AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO POLICE THAT DOWN THE ROAD? PART OF, PART OF, PART OF THEM'S FROM JENNIFER CAN PROBABLY TALK TO THIS TOO, IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPER DEVELOPER WHO'S LOOKED, THE AGE RESTRICTED FACILITY HAS HIS HISTORICAL DATA GOES FOR MULTIPLE JAKES THAT SHOWS ITS PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE SECONDLY LESS, LESS THAN WHAT B WOULD BE IN A NORMAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND SORT OF THAT'S, WHAT'S DRIVING IT.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE HOOK IS SO Y'ALL, DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MORE PARKING THAN WHAT WE HAVE OR FOR YOU TO HAVE LESS PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES, YOU'RE GOING TO TIE TO DATA THAT SHOWS THAT AGE GENERATES LESS VEHICLES, CORRECT.
THAT THAT IS OUR WAY UP AND THEY WILL HAVE TO DO, I'LL HAVE TO DO THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS TO IT.
SO, SO AGAIN, JENNIFER, DOES THAT NEED TO BE IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR IS THAT JUST AN AGREEMENT WITH A REASONABLE APPROACH TO WHAT THAT IS? SO IT NEEDS TO BE IN
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THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN ORDER FOR US TO APPLY IT, UM, PARTICULARLY ON THE PARKING SIDE.UM, SO THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN OR THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S RECOMMENDED IN THE REPORT, UM, IS WHAT JOE JUST DESCRIBED ON, UH, PARKING STUDIES.
SO IF IT'S AN AGE RESTRICTED FACILITY, UM, THAT A PARKING STUDY COULD BE PROVIDED, UH, TO SHOW THE NUMBER, THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, UH, TO BE PROVIDED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN THEY HAVE A, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO BELOW APPROXIMATELY 1.1, UM, PARKING SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT FOR THAT TYPE OF FACILITY.
AND THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH, WHAT'S BEEN APPLIED TO OTHER AGE RESTRICTED FACILITIES IN THE CITY.
UM, SO IT, IT DOES NEED TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE IN ORDER, UM, CAUSE OTHERWISE IT'LL ALL BE TREATED AS MARKET RATE APARTMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT OF PARKING AS PROVIDED AND JENNIFER, HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS WOULD THAT BE IF IT WAS AT FULL RATE, IS THAT, DOES IT GET UP TO LIKE THREE, INSTEAD OF THAT 1.2 RATIO, DOES IT PUSH IT UP TO LIKE 2.3 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, SO IT'S A SCALE BASED ON, UH, THE BEDROOM TYPE IS THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP.
SO IT'S LIKE, UM, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE OVER ONE-TO-ONE, UM, BUT LIKE A STUDIO APARTMENT OR ONE BEDROOM, UM, IS REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT.
UM, A TWO BEDROOM IS REQUIRED TO HAVE, UM, LIKE TWO POINT, UM, UH, TWO POINT, UM, I BELIEVE 2.5, UH, PARKING SPACES.
AND SO IT JUST CONTINUES TO GO UP BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. AND SO WHAT THERE, WHAT, UM, IS BEING RECOMMENDED IS, UH, TO DECREASE THAT NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRE I'VE GOT IT.
SO MR. WEBB, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT WHAT'S DRIVING YOU TO ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT MANY DRIVERS THAT WILL HAVE TO LEAVE FROM THIS AREA, SAY HEADED INTO THE MEDICAL CENTER OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT? PART OF WHAT PART OF THAT IS COMING, COMING FROM AN ACTUAL PERSON WHO IS LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW AND THEIR HISTORICAL DATA ON HOW MANY A CAR WE ACTUALLY HAVE PER PERSON OR PER UNIT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LITERALLY LESS THAN A TYPICAL MODEL TO HAVE THAT FAMILY GOT THE HISTORICAL ORACLE DATA TO BACK IT UP.
UH, PLUS THAT, THAT PART OF WHAT WE HAD OUR INITIAL REVISION REVISION OF THE ORDINANCE EARLIER, WE ANTICIPATE AND HAD SOME INTEREST AND TRUST IN MEDICAL UNIT USE AND IN THAT AREA.
SO ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE IS A, THERE IS A POTENTIAL, SOMEONE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO DRIVE TO ACTUALLY MAIN, MAIN THOSE SERVICE FROM A MEDICAL CLINICAL CARE PROVIDER.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BACK BACK AND GET DOWN INTO A VALLEY VILLAGE, SIR, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED TYPE OF AREA, SO THAT IT'S TWO PRONGED APPROACH THERE AND THE POTENTIAL FOR SERVICES HERE.
I I'M OKAY WITH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IN YOUR PRODUCT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE A COUPLE OF THINGS IS ONE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO BE LEGISLATING AGE RESTRICTION TO ADDRESS PARKING, PARTICULARLY IN A PD, THAT'S GOING TO BE TIED TO THAT.
WHETHER YOU'RE THERE OR NOT, AND 20, 30 YEARS SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE IT, OR WE'LL BE STUCK WITH IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT ONCE IT'S BUILT.
SO MY THING IS IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE AGREEMENT, MAKE THE AGREEMENT BECAUSE OF THE PRODUCT AND THE TARGET MARKET, AND WE JUST PUT IT IN THE PD AND WE SAY FINE.
THE SECOND THING IS IS THAT IF IT'S A, IF IT IS WALKABLE, I'M HOPING THERE'S LESS CARS.
AND IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE, THEN TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT WILL, WILL TAKE OVER FOR THAT.
SO AGAIN, I THINK I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY IS, IT'S KIND OF BOTHERED ME THAT WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF, OF, OF NEGOTIATING SPOTS FOR CARS AND PROPERTY BASED ON AGE.
AND THAT'S, I JUST DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CITY NEEDS TO BE.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S BOTHERED ME.
THANK YOU, MR. BARDWELL COMMISSIONERS.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THIS OR ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. WEBB? YEAH.
ON THE SIDE OF THE YARDS, ARE YOU GUYS IN AGREEMENT THAT YOU CAN HANDLE THE FIVE FOOT TO THE LAW, TO THE LOT LINE OR CAN HANDLE THAT
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I'VE SEEN LESS? MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS TYPICALLY DRAINAGE COMES FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK.I MEAN, FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT TO BREAK OVER THE CURB.
AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT IN FIVE, SIX FEET BETWEEN HOMES TO GET A SWALE IN THERE TO EVEN GET DRAINAGE, TO DEVELOP OUR STATE OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
MR. MR. BRYAN, UM, OUR, THE PERSON WHO THE PROPOSING THIS, WE WILL VOTE HAS HAD SOME MEETINGS WITH CITY WITH A BUILDING INSPECTION SECTION AND APARTMENT.
AND PART OF WHAT, WHAT WE'LL BE CONFIRMING BACK IS THAT THEY CAN HANDLE THE ALLERGIES IN THAT, IN THAT AREA CAN HANDLE THE DRAINAGE AND OUR SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, WHEN ONE PROVIDES A ONE-ON-ONE HOUR OF FIRING, ONE, ONE CAN REDUCE THAT SETBACK.
SO THEY, THEY, AND I THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT AND DO IT AND WILLING TO SHOW THAT THEY CAN CAN.
SO RIGHT NOW THE REPORT WE HAVE THAT MAY POSSIBLY GO FORWARD SHOWS THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING FIVE FOOT NOT COME OFF THE FREE FOOT.
IS THAT CORRECT, JENNIFER? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, YOU CAN AMEND THAT, THAT PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE REPORT IS THE FIVE FOOT SEVEN COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THAT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, SIR.
I'D LIKE TO JUST CHIME IN, UM, JOE, YOUR, YOUR VOICE WAS COMING OFF KIND OF, UM, YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS NO.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR ON A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS THAT MR. BRIGHTWELL HAD, I'LL START ON THE, UM, ON THE, UH, MID DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS A VERY TYPICAL PRODUCT.
IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE BIT WIDER ACTUALLY PRODUCT THAT, THAT THAN A LOT OF THE NEWER, URBAN TYPE PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE SEEING AROUND TOWN, BUT ESSENTIALLY JENNIFER TO CORRECT THE FIRST SLIDE YOU, YOU PUT A 20 FOOT BUILDING ENVELOPE, IT'S ACTUALLY A 25 FOOT BUILDING ENVELOPE AND IT SHOWED A 40 FOOT LOT.
AND THE PROPOSAL'S ACTUALLY A 32 FOOT LOT, WHICH WOULD GIVE US A TOTAL OF SEVEN FEET OF SIDE SETBACK.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD, UM, HMM, YEP.
IT SAID 40 FOOT WIDE LOT AND 20 FOOT BUILDING AND, AND THOSE NUMBERS SHOULD BE 25 AND 32 ACTUALLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN THAT IS SHOWN HERE.
UM, AND THE, UM, THE MINIMUM, WE WOULD HAVE A 70 FEET OF SIDE SETBACK, SO IT'D BE THREE AND FOUR.
SO ALL THE HOMES WOULD BE BASICALLY SEVEN FEET APART OR BE THREE ON ONE SIDE, FOUR ON THE OTHER, UM, WHICH PROVIDES THE NEEDED ACCESS FOR ANY UTILITIES, MENTOR DRAINAGE, UM, THAT THAT'S REQUIRED.
AND MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE IN HOUSTON IS FOUR OR FIVE FEET APART.
THIS WOULD BE SEVEN FEET APART ON TOP OF THAT, HOUSTON DOESN'T REQUIRE WE, WE WOULD HAVE, THE BUILDERS WOULD ALL HAVE FIRE PROTECTION ON, ON BOTH THE WALLS, BOTH THE SIDEWALLS.
SO, UM, WHICH YOU DON'T NECESSARILY GET IN HOUSTON, NEITHER.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A 25 FOOT BUILDING PAD AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE FOOT MINIMUM SETBACK SETS AT LEAST 10 FEET BETWEEN HOMES.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT PRODUCT EVER BUILT.
SO, UM, UH, IT WOULD, IT, IT PROPORTIONALLY, IT DOESN'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD LOOK RIGHT IN IT AND IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THIS PRODUCT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE CLARIFICATIONS ON THAT MID DENSITY.
UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S IN KEEPING WITH NOT ONLY THE T THE, THE, THE THEME OF THIS, UH, MIXED USE URBAN COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE YOUR TOWN CENTER, IF YOU WILL, IT'S IN KEEPING WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS IN THE CITY'S LONG LONG-TERM PLAN.
SO, JENNIFER, AGAIN, ART, WHAT IS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? CAUSE AGAIN, THIS PDF'S KILLING ME.
CAN YOU FEEL BACK TO WHAT? YEAH.
SO THE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION BASICALLY WOULD BE TO MAINTAIN THE SETBACKS, UM,
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FROM THEUM, BUT WHAT JOEL JUST, UH, CLARIFIED ON THE SETBACKS IS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS, ARE PROPOSING A MINIMUM OF THREE FEET.
UM, BUT IF IT'S A COMBINED MINIMUM OF SEVEN FEET, THEN THAT'S JUST, UM, A REDUCTION OF THREE FEET FROM WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UM, SO THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME ROOM FOR FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT CLARIFICATION THAT THE COMMISSION COULD ADD TO THIS REPORT.
UM, WE ARE AT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A POINT OF THE MEETING.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PROTESTS LETTERS HERE BEFORE ME.
LET'S SEE IF, UH, THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE.
ARE WE, I'M SORRY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
ARE WE TOO, IS IT TOO LATE TO ADDRESS ONE OTHER COMMENT? UH, A GOOD, GOOD COMMENT THAT MR. BURTON ROCKWELL BROUGHT UP OR NO.
THIS JUST HAD TO DO WITH W WHEN, UH, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AGE RESTRICTED, UM, UH, APARTMENTS, FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S, UH, WE, WE, WEREN'T ASKING THE CITY TO DICTATE THE AGE OR THE, OR THE PARKING DECK.
THAT'S A MARKETING, UM, UH, ISSUE WITH, WITH REGARDS TO THAT PARTICULAR PRODUCT TYPE.
THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS, IS AGE RESTRICTED.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S A PRODUCT THAT'S, WE, WE FEEL THERE'S SOME DEMAND, THEREFORE, AND WE HAVE SOME INTEREST AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SUBMIT, UH, AT THE RIGHT TIME, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PRODUCT, UH, UH, EXHIBITS AND SO FORTH.
SO YOU CAN GET A FEEL OF IT, BUT THEY, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE PARKING, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY THEY'VE HAD IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT PARKING AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH OF IT.
AND SO WE WOULD BE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT AS WELL, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE PRODUCT THAT THE AGE RESTRICTION PART OF IT IS DICTATED BY THE DEVELOPER, NOT BY US OR THE CITY.
IT'S JUST, THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR MARKETING PLAN.
SO I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I I'M FINE WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT'S HIS PRODUCT, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE OF IS ARE WE ACTUALLY USING THE TERM AGE RESTRICTED, TIED TO THE PD THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING, WHICH WOULD BE THE CITY'S DIRECTIVE OR OUR AGREEMENT THAT WOULD RIDE WITH THE PD THAT NO WE'RE, WE'RE USING, UM, UH, WE'RE USING MULTI-FAMILY, UM, AS, AS THE PRODUCT TYPE IN, AND IF THE AGE RESTRICTED WOULD BE A VERSION OF THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN THE, FROM THE PD STANDPOINT RIGHT NOW.
AND I WILL SHOW ONE DIMENSION, THE, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ON OUR, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS JENNIFER, YOU CAN CLARIFY THIS RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 55 FEET ON THE MULTIFAMILY.
UM, AND I THINK THE, MAYBE THE TMV WAS 45.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I'M GATHERING? YEAH.
ANYWAY, I WAS JUST GOING TO CLARIFY THAT AS WELL, BUT, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THOSE CLARIFICATION.
AT THIS TIME WE ARE INSIDE OF THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
SO TO HEAR IF WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTED TO GIVE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THIS, IS THERE A SHERRY GREG AVAILABLE? HI, YES.
NORMALLY WHEN WE'RE IN PERSON, WE ALWAYS ASK PEOPLE TO GIVE THEIR ADDRESS, BUT, UM, IF YOU WOULD AT LEAST STATE MAYBE YOUR SUBDIVISION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
MA'AM I LIVE IN OLYMPIA STATE.
SO HEARING WHAT, UM, THE MORE EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE.
UM, I JUST HAD A, I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT, THE HEIGHT CHANGE REQUESTS FOR THE T AND D AND THE MIXED USE, CONSIDERING WHAT'S IN THE VICINITY OF, OF WHAT THEY PROPOSE.
UM, NOTHING IS ABOVE LIKE TWO STORIES.
SO IT'S GOING TO, I DON'T KNOW, TO ME, IT'S GOING TO LOOK, UM, ODD OUT OF PLACE.
I KNOW THEY WANT AN URBAN LOOK,
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BUT WE'RE IN THE SUBURBS.UM, I PASSED THOSE, THOSE HIVE STORY BUILDINGS EVERYDAY GOING TO WORK AND BECAUSE ALL THE BUILDINGS AROUND IT ARE, IT LOOKS SIMILAR.
IT LOOKS, IT DOESN'T LOOK OUT OF PLACE, BUT SOMETHING SUCH AS THAT EXTENDED HEIGHT BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK AT A PLACE IN THIS, IN THIS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO I, THAT WAS REALLY, MY ONLY CONCERN WAS REGARDING THE, WHAT WAS THE MIXED USE AND WHAT WAS, UM, THE T AND D WHAT THAT MEANT.
BUT SINCE, UM, JENNIFER EXPLAINED IT, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS NOW, BUT I STILL PROTEST THE HEIGHT, UM, REQUESTS FOR THE AMENDMENT.
I MOVE NOW TO JUST, JUST ONE SEC.
THAT WAS THE LAST ONE THAT I HAD HERE.
UM, MR. CHIMA, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE'S SPEED.
IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
I AS WELL, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? WOULD YOU PLEASE PUT THE SLIDE BACK ON THOSE STAFFS RECOMMENDATIONS? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, RIGHT.
WELL, I SURE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR MOTION BECAUSE I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR, UM, HOW YOU'RE GOING TO WORD YOUR CONCERN, UH, WITH LEGISLATIVE FACTORS IN REGARDS TO, UH, PARKING SPACES.
WELL, AGAIN, I THINK A SAYS TO ALLOW FOR AGE RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL USERS, WE JUST NEED TO STRIKE OUT AGE RESTRICTED AND JUST LEAVE IT AS RESIDENTIAL USES WHERE IT'S ASSISTED LIVING USES ARE PERMITTED AND LEAVE IT AT THAT.
UM, THE SECOND THING I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH IS THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS IS A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET FROM INCH INTERIOR.
LOT LINE ARE NOT LESS THAN 10 FEET FROM A SIDE STREET.
UH I'M I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO STRUGGLE WITH IS THE MINIMUM FIVE FEET IS A, IS TO THE LOT LINE.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A THREE AND A FOUR, WHICH WILL GIVE US A TOTAL OF SEVEN.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THAT RECOMMENDATION, BUT I THINK IF IT'S REASONABLE AND CAN BE PUT IN HERE, SO IT COULD BE CONSIDERED, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SUPPORT THE PRODUCT AND THE REST OF THE ITEMS I'M FINE WITH.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE 90 FOOT, BY THE TIME YOU PUT A MANSARD OR SOMETHING ON TOP OF THAT, ON TOP OF COMMERCIAL, PLUS IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO INTERIOR PARKING AND THEN LIVING ON TOP OF THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING UP ANYWAY, IF THEY WANT TO GET A DECENT PRODUCT IN THERE.
AND I ALSO LIKE THE FACT THAT IN THE T AND D IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SETTING BACK FOR MRS. SHERRY.
UM, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE 90 FOOT HEIGHTS WILL PROBABLY BE PUSHING BACK IN THAT PROPERTY MO MORE TOWARDS THE TOLL ROAD.
SO VISIBILITY FROM LIKE OLYMPIA MORE THAN LIKELY WON'T BE, WON'T BE AS VISIBLE AS YOU THINK.
UH, I GUESS I'LL SAY THAT'S MY GENERAL MOTION AND OPEN FOR, UH, CLARIFICATION OR CLEARANCE AND THE DISCUSSION.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. BRIGHTWELL.
I THINK WHERE, UH, WHERE WE MAY NEED A LITTLE HELP ON IS, UH, ITEM B TWO, WHICH IS THE MID THIS DESTINY, UM, THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS WE NEED TO JUST GET, UM, I BELIEVE THAT BRIDEWELL WAS STATING THAT HE WAS FINE WITH THE THREE FEET ON IT, YOU KNOW, THREE TO FOUR FEET ON EACH SIDE, SEVEN FEET FROM THE STREET.
IS THAT CORRECT? MR. BRIGHTWELL? AGAIN, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE.
UM, FIVE TO SIX FEET IS TOUGH.
AND AGAIN, THE PRODUCTS I'M USED TO WORKING WITH HER, TYPICALLY THAT 10 FOOT BETWEEN THEM, WHICH IS MORE WATER OR TWO TYPE STUFF.
WE HAVE YOUR MOTION, UM, COMMISSIONERS THAT, YES, PLEASE.
UM, THERE IS A SECOND SLIDE OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
LOOK, CAN WE MOVE TO THAT? THANK YOU.
HOW YOU, THEN WE MADE YOUR WHOLE MOTION.
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JUST TAKE THE AGE OUT OF IT.I WAS GETTING READY TO SAY, I THINK, I THINK, OKAY.
THAT'S STILL, THAT'S STILL YOUR MOTION, MR.
I, I UNDERSTAND GENERALLY WHERE THEY'RE GOING WITH THE PRODUCT.
WE'RE JUST CHANGING ITEMS, UM, TO, UH, B I'M SORRY, THE SECOND ONE ON THE FIRST SLIDE TO MEET THE THREE AND THE SEVEN FEET.
UM, AND THEN UNDER PARKING, HE WANTS TO STRIKE AGE RESTRICTED FOR STRIKE AND AGE RESTRICTED.
I MEAN, AGAIN, MY FATHER'S THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED.
THAT'S THE PRODUCT THAT DEVELOPED THAT GOES INTO THE PD TO ALLOW THE PARKING, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PRODUCT THAT'S GOING TO GO THERE AND THEN IT WON'T TIE US BOTH DOWN.
NOW I THINK WE HAVE THE MOTION, MR. JEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE IT JUST ONE SECOND, HANG ON.
I'M GOING TO GET TO THE QUESTIONS I GOT TO GET THE MOTION AND I GOT TO GET A SECOND AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION.
I AIN'T GOING TO JUST SAY, OKAY, MR. JIMA.
I WAS LISTENING YOU COUSIN WAS, I WAS, UM, IT WASN'T QUITE CLEAR WHEN IT COMES TO DOING THE RECORDING THE MINUTES, JUST KIND OF MAYBE CLAIRE.
UM, YOU DID PRETTY GOOD ON THAT.
UM, JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S A LITTLE CLEARER AS PER THE MINUTES FOR MYSELF.
ESSENTIALLY, MR. BRIGHTWOODS MOTION IS TO, UH, FORWARDED ON TO STAFF, FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
HOWEVER, HE IS AMENDING, UM, B TO, WITH THE MINIMUM, UH, SETBACK, CHANGING IT FROM FIVE FEET TO THREE FEET, AND HE'S CHANGING IT FROM NOT LESS THAN 10 FEET TO NOT LIST THAN SEVEN FEET.
I'M SORRY, THREE ON ONE FOR INTER OR INTERIOR.
AND THEN REPEAT THAT AGAIN, PLEASE.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, MR. BRIGHTWELL MOTION IS TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
HOWEVER, HE IS CHANGING TWO OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
HE WILL BE CHANGING UNDER PARKING ITEM THREE, WHERE IT SAYS PROVIDE FOR A REDUCTION OF UP TO 25%.
HE IS STRIKING AND FOR AN AGED RESTRICTED DEVELOPMENT.
HE'S ASKING FOR THAT TO SAY, TO PROVIDE FOR A REDUCTION OF UP TO 25% PARKING WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE APPROVAL OF PARKING SPACES, NOT LESS THAN 1.10 SPACE PER UNIT.
AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE FRONT PAGE AND UNDER B, HE IS CHANGING FROM FIVE FEET TO THREE FEET AND FROM 10 FEET UP TO SEVEN FEET.
IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MS. OVERTON? YOU HAD A QUESTION.
MY QUESTION WAS IS B FIVE, AS FAR AS THE HEIGHT, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE SIX STORIES AS WELL.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE IN BRIGHTWELL SEEMS TO BE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE.
HE SAID THAT THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE AS NOTICEABLE, RIGHT.
WOULD YOU GUYS PLEASE PLACE IT BACK ON THE SLIDE SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE TOTAL LAYOUT OF THE PROJECT AND THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR PATIENCE ON TONIGHT? MS.
WELL, I WAS GETTING READY TO DO A GO AHEAD ON MR. BRIGHTWELL.
WELL, OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE REPRESENTING THE PLOT AND THE PLAN AND THE PD CAN JUMP IN HERE AT ANY TIME.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO AN URBAN, URBAN TYPE DISTRICT OR WALKABLE DISTRICT, YOU'RE TYPICALLY SEEING, AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A COUPLE OF THEM OVER THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT, NINE, 10 YEARS, IS THAT TYPICALLY THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE COMMERCIAL SPACE ON THE BOTTOM.
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OVER 10 FOOT JUST TO GET THE COMMERCIAL IN THE BOTTOM.AND THEN IF THEY HAVE PARKING INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING, NOW YOU HAVE AT LEAST A PARKING FLOOR.
AND THEN BY THE TIME YOU PUT A STUDIO APARTMENT ON TOP OF THAT, FOR PEOPLE TO WALK UP TO AND LIVE ABOVE THAT YOU'RE ALREADY SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT STORIES UP IN THERE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU PUT A MANSARD OR SOME TYPE OF LINING ON TOP OF THE ROOF, IT'S EASY TO GET TO THAT 80, 90 FEET AND NO PROBLEMS. AND ALL YOU'VE DONE IS PROVIDED ONE APARTMENT ABOVE WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWING TO BE BUILT UNDERNEATH AND ACCESS.
IS THAT GENERALLY TRUE? WELL, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER OIL.
UH, YOU'RE YOU'RE MUCH ON TARGET.
AND THE INTENT HERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN, IT'S BEEN THAT THE TOTAL TOLL DEVELOPED WOULD BE MORE TOWARDS THE, THE CO OF THAT AREA FOR YA.
SO IN ESSENCE, IT WOULD STARE, STARE UP AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM LARD.
SO, AND YOU'RE RUNNING YOU'RE RIGHT DOWNSTAIRS WITH RACHEL AND OTHER, FOR THEIR FACILITY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE 12 TO 14 FEET PARKING LEVELS, OR AT LEAST 10 RESIDENTIAL LEVELS POLES ARE 11 TO 12, ALL ABOUT 14 FEET FLOOR TO FLOOR.
SO, SO GETTING DENIED, IT HAPPENS REAL FAST ASKED, AND THAT'S A PRETTY HIGH END PRODUCT GUYS.
THIS IS NOT JUST SLAM THEM IN AND MAKE A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF SUPPORTING IT BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S AN ARCHITECTURAL BENT TO HOW THIS IS LAID OUT AND HOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SO THEY CAN GET THE TOWN CENTER OR THAT WALKABLE SPACE, WHICH BY THE WAY, IS ACTUALLY A FEDERAL, UM, PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR LIKE 15 YEARS TO MAKE MORE WALKABLE WITH STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND LANDSCAPING IN AN URBAN CENTER.
IT IS JENNIFER, I'LL JUMP IN WITH ME ON THIS, BUT THIS IS A COMING THING.
AND IT'S SUPPORTED ALL OVER TOO, TO HAVE MORE OF THESE TYPES OF SPACES, MR. BRIGHTWELL.
AND, UM, I THINK IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT.
IF YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT LITTLE GREEN AREA IN THE PLAN IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAT, BUT THAT'S ABOUT A 1.6 ACRE TRACK THAT JOE WEB HAS ALREADY PROGRAMMED, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR TOWN CENTER, A CENTRAL PLAZA TYPE OF, UH, OF A, UH, AMENITY THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT LIVES AROUND THERE CAN WALK THERE AND NOT TO MENTION WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC SPACES AS WELL.
SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IN OTHER WORDS, TO JUSTIFY THOSE COSTS AND, UH, THE AMOUNT OF LAND, ET CETERA, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT COMPENSATING DENSITY AROUND IT WITH, UH, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THE RESIDENTIAL ON TOP OF RETAIL, ET CETERA, BUT YOU KNOW, OFFICE ON TOP OF RETAIL AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO FOR.
AND YOU SEE EXAMPLES OF THIS ALL OVER TOWN.
UM, MOST COMMONLY REFERRED TO, UH, MONIKER FOR THAT IS LIKE TOWN CENTER.
THEY, THEY, THEY CALL THEM, BUT THERE'S OTHER OTHER TERMS FOR IT, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE.
AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE SOME DENSITY AROUND IT, TO IT WORK.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT COMES IN ON THIS, ON THIS PRODUCT TYPE.
SO THE OTHER THING I'VE MENTIONED, JENNIFER, UH, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT ONE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S THREE FOOT MINIMUM, SEVEN FOOT TOTAL, AND IT'S THREE FOOT MINIMUM, SEVEN FOOT TOTAL, NOT, NOT IN THE 10, THE 10 FEET FOOT WAS THE FRONT.
THAT WAS A SETBACK, NOT THE, NOT THE SIDE SETBACK.
I WAS GOING TO CLARIFY ON THE SEVEN FOOT TOTAL OF THE SIDE SETBACKS WHEN THAT AGREED.
UM, THE COMMISSIONER OVER THE, IF ARE YOU BY CHANCE TAKING A LOOK AT THE SCREEN? YES, I AM.
SO THE T AND D PRODUCT THAT THEY'RE SPEAKING ABOUT WILL GO, IF YOU'LL SEE IT AS KIND OF SHADED IN THE PINK OR PEACH COLORED, IF YOU WILL, IT'S HEAVILY, HEAVILY CLOSER TO THE FORT BEING TOLD A PARKWAY AREA.
AND, AND FOR SEVERAL OF US HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO SIT ON SIDE OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A LOT OF THIS, UM, IT'S STEMMING STRAIGHT FROM OUT OF THAT PLAN WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING THAT THE CITY WILL NEED IN ORDER TO CONTINUE GROWING, UM, TOWARDS THE FUTURE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE MR. WEBB,
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JUST TO GIVE SOME SOMEONE A VISUAL OF, IF YOU HAD TO SAY WHAT THIS THING WOULD KIND OF LOOK LIKE, JUST TO GIVE THEM A VISUAL, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT ON TONIGHT, GIVE US A PLACE IN HOUSTON WHERE WE WOULD SEE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.YEAH, MY OLD TOWN AND COUNTRY CENTER VILLAGE CENTER, WHICH IS NOW TOTALLY PLANNED TO DEVELOPMENT, IT HAS THAT GREAT GREEN SPACE INSIDE OF MULTI-STORY REBUILDING BUILDINGS, RETAIL.
THEY, THEY ARE, UH, OFF OFFICE PARKING.
AND YOU END UP DOING IS YOU CREATE WHAT WE CALL A BLOCK FACE WITH THESE, THESE BUILDINGS.
THEY CREATE THAT PEDESTRIAN ENVELOPE OR AN ENVELOPE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN TRAIN AREA AND ARE PART OF OUR PLA PLAZA, IS THAT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE CLOSEST ONE AND YOUR, YOUR PHONE, YOUR CONNECTION IS GOING IN AND OUT.
SO I BELIEVE YOU SAID IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO LIKE CITY CENTER.
AND THE OTHER ONE, I WOULD SUGGEST, I'M SORRY, THIS IS JOEL SCOTT.
THE OTHER ONE I WOULD SUGGEST WOULD BE LAST SENTARA.
IT'S A VERY SIMILAR PRODUCT TYPE THAT IN, UM, IN CINCO RANCH.
IT'S ON GRAND PARKWAY BETWEEN WESTHEIMER PARKWAY IN CINCO RANCH BOULEVARD.
NO, WE DID NOT, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, THE, THE DEVELOPER OF LOS SENTARA HAS LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT THAT ALL THAT PEACH AREA, WHICH WOULD BE OUR TOWN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A TOWN CENTER PRODUCT THERE HE'S LOOKED AT IT BEFORE.
SO VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THE CLARIFICATION GUYS, WE'RE NOW BACK, WE'RE BACK TO OUR MOTION AND WE ARE BACK TO OUR SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ARE THERE ANY NAYS SEEING NONE? THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT, UH, MOTION CARRIES WE'RE
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AT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, D ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AS WELL.THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS, UM, OR, OR GUESTS TO REQUEST BY THE GUPPY REALTY TO ZONE AN APPROXIMATE 7.5 ACRE TRACT OF LAND FROM EL C3 TO PD DEVELOPMENT FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE AND A LOGISTICS CENTER.
UH, THIS IS A PROPERTY ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE CITY AT SOUTH CRAVENS ROAD IN HIGHWAY 98.
IT'S OUTLINED IN BLACK ON THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN.
THIS IS A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING, UM, A SINGLE BUILDING, UM, OFFICE WAREHOUSE, UH, CONSTRUCTION WITH LOADING DOCKS.
UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN DEVELOP IN THE PARK EIGHT 90, UH, BUSINESS PARK.
THAT'S JUST, UH, TO THE EAST OF THIS LOCATION, UM, EAST OF SOUTH CRAVINGS ROAD.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE OFFICE WAREHOUSES THAT WE'VE SEEN ALONG THE NORTH, THE SOUTH GESSNER ROAD CORRIDOR.
THESE ARE SOME PERSPECTIVES OF WHAT THAT FACILITY WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, FOR THAT AREA, AGAIN, CONSISTENT IN TERMS OF, UH, CONSTRUCTION TYPE, UM, IN DESIGN.
AND SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FAIRLY SIMPLE.
UM, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED L C3, WHICH IS THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE IT AS A PB, UH, TO ALLOW, CONTINUED TO ALLOW FOR THOSE L C3 USES IN THE EVENT THAT THIS, UM, ISN'T DEVELOPED OR IF IT, UM, UH, TRANSITIONS IN THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT TO ALSO ALLOW FOR, UH, THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE USES AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UM, ON THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED, THE APPLICANT DID HAVE SOME, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UM, BUT MOST ALL ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT FOR THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, THOSE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT STANDARDS, UH, GIVE YOU YOUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
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SO PERFORMANCE STANDARDS ON, UM, YOU KNOW, MAXIMUM ODORS, UM, OR OLDER LIMITATIONS, LIGHTING, LIMITATIONS, VIBRATION LIMITATIONS, UM, UH, SOUND LIMITATIONS THAT ARE ALL ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, USES THAT COULD OPERATE WITHIN AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE.SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPLY, UM, THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT STANDARDS, UM, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, TO LIMIT THE USE AS TO L C3 AND OFFICE WAREHOUSE ABUSES.
JENNIFER, THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.
YOU APPRECIATE IT, COMMISSIONER.
SO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JENNIFER, JENNIFER IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE? HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THIS IS CHRISTIAN VESTAL.
I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GABI REALTY, JENNIFER.
I'M HERE ON THE LINE VERY WELL.
MA'AM FOR JOINING US ON TONIGHT.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.
UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF IN SUPPORT LETTERS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UM, PARTICULARLY I HAVE ONE FROM A WILLIAM CRONIN, UH, IS MR. CRONIN AVAILABLE? IT'S FINE THAT HE IS NOT, HE DID SUBMIT A, UH, A LETTER AS WELL.
AND, UH, THE LETTER IS ALSO A SIGN, UH, OR AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGED, UH, IN SUPPORTIVE AGREEMENT BY SEVERAL OF HIS NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION? YES.
I WAS ONE OF THE SUPPORTERS OF, UH, MR. CRONIN'S LETTER.
UH, WE LIVE ON PINE MEADOW AND OF COURSE THERE ARE SEVEN RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ARE COMPLETELY SURROUNDED AND ENGULFED BY THE WAREHOUSES.
UM, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE CHANGE.
MY CONCERN IS THE, UM, TRAFFIC FLOW ON 90.
IS THERE ANY KIND OF, UM, RED LIGHT OR INTERSECTION THAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED THERE TO HELP US HAVE A SAFER ACCESS TO FROM 90? UH, WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY IS WE HAVE SO MANY CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES.
UM, THE CEMENT TRUCKS, UH, ON SOUTH CRAVENS CURRENTLY, WE ALSO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS COMING IN FROM THE WATER PROJECT DOWN NEAR THE BIO.
AND SO WE'RE HAVING SOME SAFETY ISSUES ON SOUTH.
CRAVEN'S TRYING TO EXIT PINE MEADOW, OUR ONLY, UM, ACCESS OUT OF THE RESIDENTIAL STREET, UM, CONSIDER MAYBE PUTTING A STOP SIGN AT THE CORNER OF PINE MEADOW AND SOUTH RIBBONS TO HELP STOP CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, CARS, AS WELL AS THE DELIVERY VEHICLES THAT ARE SPEEDING NOW FROM THE OTHER EXISTING, LIKE EXCLUSIVE FURNITURE DELIVERY TRUCKS.
AND, UM, SO THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS CARS THEY'RE PARKING CURRENTLY ON BOTH SIDES OF CRAVENS, UM, SPORADICALLY, NOT DAILY, BUT SPORADICALLY LEAVING ONLY THE CENTER OF CRAVERS, WHICH IS REALLY ONLY A TWO LANE STREET FOR THE REST OF THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES TO COME WHEELERS TO AND FROM 90 AND THE RESIDENTIAL VEHICLES AS WELL.
SO WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM GOING ON THERE AND IT WOULD JUST CERTAINLY LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE SUPPORT THERE.
WE ALSO HAVE LIMITED VISITS ON THAT CORNER DUE TO VEGETATION.
THAT'S NOT CONSISTENTLY CUT, SO IF WE CAN HAVE SOME HELP THERE, UM, I DO SEE ON THE PLAN THAT THERE IS RETENTION POND, UM, AREA PLANNED WITH THE NEW, UH, PROJECT, AS OF COURSE, WE'RE THE LOWEST POINT NOW, UH, THE WAREHOUSES ARE ALL INCREDIBLE BUILT UP HIGH.
SO IF WE CAN HAVE SUPPORT ON THAT FLOODING CONSIDERATION AGAIN, AND THEN ALSO PERHAPS SOME NOISE FENCING, UM, THAT FACES THE POLOMA WAY, POLOMA BEND,
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UH, TO HELP US RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE'RE JUST ONE BLOCK BEHIND THEM.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONCERNS.
LIVING BACK IN HERE AND THE OTHER, UH, CONSIDERATIONS, THE OTHER QUESTION WE HAD IS RESONANCE IS, IS THERE SOME KIND OF A, WHERE WILL THE SOUTH CRAVEN'S WAREHOUSES BE FINISHED BEFORE WE GO INTO A MAJOR TRAFFIC AND CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES WITH THIS NEXT PROJECT? THIS IS KRISTIN VESTAL.
I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE GABI REALTY? UM, I THINK THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING ARE FURTHER KIND OF NORTHEAST OF THE, OF OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HERE.
AND, UM, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS.
AND SO I, I, I'M UNCLEAR OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
ARE YOU ASKING WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION AND COMPLETION, BUT I THINK YOU'RE ASKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARK EIGHT 90 PROPERTY.
WELL, NO SPECIFICALLY YOUR PROPERTY THAT GOING TO ACTUALLY BEGIN AND OCCUR CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, DEPENDING ON HOW OUR, UM, REZONING GOES.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LETTER OF SUPPORT.
UH, WE'RE, WE'D BE PLANNING TO BREAK GROUND PROBABLY FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN KRISTEN, WHERE WILL THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR YOUR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, UH, BEING, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE HAVE NOT SELECTED A CONTRACTOR YET, AND WE DON'T HAVE A KIND OF CONSTRUCTION PLAN PER SE, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO, IF SOMEONE COULD PASS ALONG MY INFORMATION TO YOU AND WE COULD SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT HOW THE TRUCKS WILL BE COMING IN AND OUT, AND WHAT YOU FEEL IS THE BEST KIND OF INGRESS AND EGRESS.
I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WITH YOU.
THAT WOULD MEAN A WHOLE LOT TO, TO THE RESIDENTS BACK HERE.
YEAH, WE WE'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, SUPPORT AND THAT WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING ALL OF THE NEIGHBOR'S INTO CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY WHILE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION PERSON AT THE SAME TIME.
WOULD YOU ALSO BE WILLING TO DISCUSS ANY TYPE OF, UH, UH, TIA THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE OBTAINED, UH, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF HER CONCERNS IN REGARDS TO STOP SIGNS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU DO VISIT WITH THEM? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND I CAN, WHAT I'LL DO IS HAVE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON THE CALL SO HE CAN HELP ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS.
CAUSE I, I'M NOT AS, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SIDE OF IT AS WELL AS HE DOES, SO I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM INCLUDED ON THOSE CALLS.
AND THEN MS. UH, MS. CAROL, UM, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU THAT WHEN PARKING IS NOT GOING THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD GO, OR IT'S VERY UNCOMFORTABLE FOR YOU GUYS OVER THERE, DEFINITELY ENGAGE, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON DEFINITELY ENGAGE WITH MISSOURI CITY POLICE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AT THIS, AT THE LEVEL OF WHERE WE ARE, WE, WE CAN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, CONTROL THOSE THINGS, BUT I'M REALLY GLAD THAT, UH, KRISTEN IS GOING TO COME OUT AND VISIT WITH YOU GUYS IN REGARDS TO THAT, BUT DEFINITELY ALL OF THE METHODS THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I'M GOING TO MOVE RIGHT QUICKLY TO ALI, UH, BARRA.
HE MAY NOT BE ON THE CALL, BUT HE IS ALSO IN SUPPORT OF IT, OF THE PROJECT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, SUPPORT OR NON-SUPPORT FORMS HERE.
MR. JIM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ON THE CALL THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM THAT WAS IT.
I DON'T SEE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I THANK YOU SO MUCH, AMY WILL SECOND THAT PLEASE.
AND I AS WELL, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED, UM, BY CHANCE, JENNIFER, IS THERE ANYONE ON THE CALL, UM, FROM ENGINEERING THAT COULD KIND OF TALK TO US IN REGARDS VERY BRIEFLY, UH, ABOUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT.
I DON'T SEE HOW THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, BUT MAYBE SO YES, THIS IS JEREMY DAVIS.
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, SIR.
SO, UH, WHEN THE, IN REGARDS TO THE STOPLIGHT ON US 90, UM, THERE AREN'T ANY PLANS CURRENTLY STOPLIGHT, UH, THAT'S A TECH STOCK RIGHT-OF-WAY ROAD.
SO, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OPTIONS FOR, UH, MAKING
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SOME, UH, UH, I GUESS, UPGRADES TO THAT PART OF THE ROADWAY, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE STOP SIGN ALONG, UM, UH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF PINE MEADOW, UH, WE ARE ME AND, UM, THE DIRECTOR SHASHA WE WERE ACTUALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT IT.WE CAN ADD IT TO OUR, UH, LIST OF AREAS WHERE CITIZENS HAVE TOLD US THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO STUDY AND SEE IF, UH, STOP SIDE'S WARRANTED.
UH, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT REQUEST AS WELL.
THAT IS SO GREATLY APPRECIATED.
I SURE DO APPRECIATE THAT, JEREMY, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE PUT THAT ON YOUR NOTES TO GET THAT DONE.
UM, THESE PEOPLE ARE KIND ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, NEW PROJECTS HAVE TO COME IN, THAT ALL LAND MUST BE DEVELOPED AND WE NEED TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO THEM.
AND THE COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER BROWN, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH CAROL ALSO, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT'S JUST ANCIENT BEING HIGH, AND TO BE SURE SHE GETS ON STEAM CLICK FIX.
ONCE YOU PUT IN YOUR CONCERN, THEY ARE VERY, VERY GOOD ABOUT GOING OUT AND TRIMMING VEGETATION AND EVEN TELLING YOU WHEN IT HAS BEEN DONE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE SHE KNEW ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, UH, I'D LIKE A MOTION PLEASE TO FORWARD A STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS WRITTEN ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
I'LL JUST TAKE ONE THOUGH, COMMISSION OVER TONIGHT.
IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LOCUS.
UM, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM SEVEN, EIGHT
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TWO WOULD BE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ON TONIGHT.WE'LL RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST BY ANDREA METS OF LOVETT COMMERCIAL TO ZONE APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES OF LAND TO PD TO ALLOW FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO INCLUDE RETAIL, COMMERCIAL USES INDUSTRIAL WORKSPACES, FLEX OFFICE SPACES, ARTIST STUDIOS, OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACES, INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE SUBJECT SITE AND OTHERS, UM, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE ON THIS PARTICULAR SCREEN, BUT, UH, THE SUBJECT SITE IS THE FRONT END AGE ALONG HIGHWAY SIX, UM, NORTH AND SOUTH OF HIGHWAY SIX EASTERN WEST OF WAX PLANTATION, UM, IN EASTERN WEST, WELL EAST OF, UM, CREEK MONT NORTH FREMONT.
UM, THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE IN FRONT OF AND SURROUNDING, UH, THE CREEK MONT SUBDIVISION, UH, COLLECTIVELY ALL OF THOSE PIECES TOTAL ABOUT 50 ACRES, APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES.
UM, BUT IT'S AS SEPARATED AS SHOWN.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THIS AS A PRELIMINARY LAYOUT, UH, JUST TO KIND OF, UH, SHOW THE MIX OF USES, UH, PROPOSED.
UH, THIS IS NOT A FINAL LAYOUT.
THIS IS NOT A FINAL, UM, PLAN, UM, BUT REALLY JUST KIND OF TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE MIX OF USES.
AND SO I DO WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BE CLEAR ON SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE ZONING.
UM, CURRENTLY HAVE A COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATION.
UM, THEY'RE ALL ZONED LC TWO, UH, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL, UH, USE DISTRICT.
UM, SO A LOT OF THE USES, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL OFFICE COMMERCIAL, UM, THE INDOOR RECREATIONAL ARE, ARE, ARE ALREADY PERMITTED USES WITHIN THAT EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, WHAT THIS PD WOULD DO, UM, IS ESTABLISHED SOME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UM, BUT ALSO ADD, UM, THE USE OF SUCH AS, UM, THE FARMER'S MARKET, UM, ALLOWING FOR LIKE AN OUTDOOR VENUE, UH, TO HOUSE SUCH A, UM, A SIMILAR TYPE OF VIEW.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE FLEX SPACE, UM, OFFICE WAREHOUSE USES, UM, AS WELL ADD COMPONENT.
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SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A CLOSEUP OF, UM, AS PROPOSED NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS ALSO, UH, SUBMITTED JUST KIND OF SOME IMAGES TO GIVE SOME PRELIMINARY, UM, VIEWS OF WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT COULD BE ESTABLISHED HERE.
UM, ONE OF THE, UH, EXAMPLE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN USING IS THE SAWYER YARDS, UM, IN THE HOUSTON AREA.
UM, BUT LOOKING AT THE MIX OF USES THAT ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A GATHERING PLACES OR, UH, SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL, UM, USES THAT, UH, RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED FOR, UM, UH, OVER THE YEARS, UM, LOOKING AT, UM, BEING ABLE TO LOCATE AS THESE TYPES OF USES IN THIS LOCATION, UM, WORKING OFF OF SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, WITHIN THIS AREA.
UM, AND SO I DID INCLUDE, UH, SOME SLIDES FOR, UM, THE DEVELOPER FROM THEIR PRESENTATION THAT WILL, UH, GIVE YOU MORE OF AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THIS PIECE IS CONNECTED TO THAT FOR BEEN PARKWAY FORWARD OR, UM, SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE COMMISSION, UM, HAS SEEN RECENTLY, UH, NUQUEST, UH, DOING THE FORBIDDEN TOWN CENTER, UH, TWO AND THREE, UM, AND ALSO THE AMAZON FULFILLMENT CENTER, UH, THAT MOST EVERYONE'S AWARE OF.
IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION OFF OF THE FOREBRAIN TOWN CENTER.
UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, CONTINUE TO UTILIZE, UM, THE LOCATION OF THIS AREA, UM, TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR, UM, A, UH, MARKET BASE, UM, BUT CREATIVE, UM, KIND OF, UH, UH, DESIGN, UM, KIND OF FACILITY THAT BROADENS OUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, DIFFERENT LAND USES, UH, WITHIN THIS AREA.
SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE SOME, UH, CREATIVE, UH, USE OF SIGNAGE, UM, FOR SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED, NOT ALL, BUT SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS AN INDOOR, UM, UH, EVENT CENTER, INDOOR, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, OR THE FARMER'S MARKET FACILITY, UM, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, EXPAND ON THAT CREATIVITY AND PROVIDE, UM, SIGNAGE WITHIN, UH, WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE, UH, SECTION 13, THE STUDENT SIGN ORDINANCE, UM, BUT PROVIDING FOR, UH, CREATIVITY SIMILAR TO WHAT SEAN, UM, IN THESE EXAMPLES, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO THE, THE SUMMARY OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, UM, ARE TO APPROVE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR THE MIX OF USES AS PROPOSED.
UM, AND SO THOSE MYTHS OF USES ARE SUMMARIZED THERE.
THE, THE MIX OF USES ARE SUMMARIZED THERE.
SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE LC THREE, UM, EL C3 RETAIL DISTRICT USES, UM, THAT IS A CHANGE FROM THE LLC TO, UM, THAT CHANGE IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE EVERY PRETTY MUCH ALL THE ZONING THAT WE HAVE ALONG HIGHWAY SIX, UM, IS EL C3, WHICH IS MORE OF THE REGIONAL, UM, RETAIL DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO THIS WOULD EXPAND IT TO THE LC C3 RETAIL DISTRICT USES, UM, AND THEN ALSO ALLOW FOR USE AS PERMIT IT WITHIN THE MFQ, UH, WHICH IS THE MULTIFAMILY.
ONE OF THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS ALLOW FOR A FARMER'S MARKET, UM, A CULTURAL RECREATIONAL CIVIC, UM, PLACE OF ASSEMBLY.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE MULTIFAMILY USES.
THEY HAVE TWICE, UM, IN TERMS OF THE DISTRICT REGULATIONS, THIS WOULD APPLY, UM, THE DISTRICT REGULATIONS OF THE, AND
SO WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HIDING AREAS, STANDARDS, THE SETBACK.
SO WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS CASE, UM, LANDSCAPING STANDARDS, PARKING STANDARDS, SIGNAGE, UM, STANDARDS, UM, ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE TYPICALLY APPLIED WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPLY THOSE ACCORDINGLY HERE, UM, AND THEN APPLY THE SECTION 13 SIGN REGULATIONS, UM, BUT ALLOW FOR, UH, SIGNAGE SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS THE PIG DID, UM, FOR, UH, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET USE.
SO PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, UM, USE AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT'S A SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THE REPORT.
UM, THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVES ARE ON THE LINE.
UM, ANY ANDREA, IF, UM, YOU WANT TO KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW, THERE'S A FEW SLIDES IN HERE, UM, FROM A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, IF YOU WANT TO WALK THE COMMISSION THROUGH THAT.
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HI.I'M DELIGHTED TO BE SPEAKING TONIGHT TO THE COMMISSION WITH REGARDS TO OUR PD APPLICATION.
I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO INTRODUCE, LOVE IT TO THE COMMISSION.
UH, YOU MIGHT MOST IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE US BECAUSE OF THE NEW AMAZON FULFILLMENT CENTER THAT IS BEING BUILT ON 250 ACRES TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE BEEN THRILLED TO WORK WITH MISSOURI CITY ON AND A PROJECT WHICH, WHICH WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF, UM, TO BE DOING.
WE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING IN HOUSTON FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
WE'VE ALSO DEVELOPED AN AUSTIN AND DALLAS, AND WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING FROM URBAN RESIDENTIAL TO A 530,000 SQUARE FOOT, 17 ACRE POST OFFICE, UH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING CONSTRUCTED IN DOWNTOWN HOUSTON.
WE'VE BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF, UH, TWO ULI AWARDS.
UH, ULI STANDS FOR URBAN LAND INSTITUTE, AND THIS IS THE OLDEST AND LARGEST NETWORK OF REAL ESTATE AND LAND USE EXPERTS IN THE WORLD.
WE'VE BEEN AWARDED AT A COMMERCIAL FOR OUR COMMERCIAL WORK AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL WORK.
UM, WE'RE EXTREMELY COMMITTED TO HOUSTON.
OUR OWNER IS ACTUALLY A RICE GRAD AND HAS A PARTICULAR AFFINITY FOR HOUSTON.
AND OUR TEAM IS COMMITTED TO THE CITY AND MAKING URBAN PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, ATTRACTIVE SPACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN THRIVE.
I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT OUR APPLICATION.
UH, I WANT TO LEAD INTO SPEAKING ABOUT THIS APPLICATION BY GOING BACK TO AMAZON FOR A MINUTE, WHEN WE WERE IN THE DEVELOPING STAGES WITH THEM, THEY WERE EXTREMELY COGNIZANT OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO WOULD BE WORKING AT THAT FULFILLMENT CENTER AND WERE EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN WHETHER THEIR EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE PLACES CLOSE BY TO LIVE SO THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE TO HAVE LONG COMMUTES TO WORK.
THEY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES HAD RETAIL, UM, PLACES TO SHOP WHERE THEY COULD TAKE CARE OF THEIR DAILY NEEDS.
THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING EMPLOYEES TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN THRIVE AT WORK AND WHEN THEY GO HOME AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE WAS IMPROVED.
AND SO WE WANT TO BUILD ON THAT AMAZON MOMENTUM WE'VE ACTUALLY OWNED THESE 50 ACRES FOR OVER 15 YEARS.
WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED, UM, WITH PROPOSALS FOR POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENTS, USUALLY GAS STATIONS, WHICH WE DO NOT WE'VE REJECTED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T, WE JUST DON'T THAT THAT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THOSE, FOR THAT, FOR THOSE SITES.
SO WE'VE BEEN COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS SITE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE SUBMITTED THIS PROPOSAL TO CREATE A PD AND INTRODUCE SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT AND REPRESENTATIVE OF MISSOURI CITY.
WE WANT TO BEST UTILIZE THIS LAND AND ENHANCE THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY FOR MISSOURI STUDY.
AND WE ALSO WANT TO CONNECT INTO THAT EXISTING, UM, SYNERGY OF DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY ALONG FORT BEND AND THE HIGHWAY SIX AREA.
SO AS JENNIFER MENTIONED EARLIER, OUR PD, WE WITH OUR PD, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THE SUPPORT FOR FLEXIBLE USE, UH, FOR OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS, UH, RETAIL, UM, OFFICE, UH, FARMER'S MARKET, UM, MULTIFAMILY.
UH, WE ALSO ARE, WOULD REALLY LIKE TO INTRODUCE OFFICE CONDOS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN INVEST IN THEIR OWN BUSINESSES AND, UH, BUILD EQUITY IN THEIR OWN BUSINESSES.
UM, WE'D LIKE OUR OFFICES, UH, TO BE, HAVE A CREATIVE, UM, A CREATIVE VIBE TO THEM SO THAT THEY'RE OWNED LIKE OFFICE CONDOS, BUT THAT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE SOME STORAGE AND SMALL WAREHOUSE USE IN THE BACK OF THOSE FACILITIES.
SO WE ARE, UM, REALLY EXCITED TO BUILD ON THE MOMENTUM THAT'S EXISTING.
THAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN MISSOURI CITY.
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WE THINK THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO INTRODUCE THESE, UM, THIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.UH, WE'VE HAD AN EXTREMELY POSITIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH MISSOURI CITY ON THE AMAZON.
AND, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO BUILD ON THIS RELATIONSHIP, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GAIN THE SUPPORT FOR THIS ZONING FLEXIBILITY AND, UM, MAKE SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFERENT AND FRESH AND, UM, IS REPRESENTATIVE OF MISSOURI CITY.
UM, AND, AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME AND VISIT OUR, UH, SAWYER YARDS, UH, DEVELOPMENT HERE IN HOUSTON, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANYONE THROUGH A TOUR.
IT'S AN EXTREMELY CREATIVE COMMUNITY.
I ACTUALLY LIVE IN, UH, THE BACKYARD OF SAWYER YARDS, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY A DRAW FOR ME TO MOVE TO THIS AREA.
AND WE HAVE TRANSFORMED INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES INTO CREATIVE ARTS STUDIOS, UH, IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE LARGEST WORKING ARTISTS COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTRY.
AND WE ALSO HAVE CREATIVE BUSINESSES, PUBLIC GALLERIES, THERE'S GREAT DINING, UH, AND FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT.
IT'S A GREAT PART, NEW PART OF HOUSTON THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF.
SO AGAIN, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANYONE FOR A TOUR TO SEE YOU THE KIND OF WORK THAT LOVE IT DOES, AND REALLY DISPLAY OUR COMMITMENT, UH, TO HOUSTON.
ANDREA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, UM, COMMENT AND FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, INVITING THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT AND SEE A CURRENT PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE ON THE GROUND.
THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, WERE YOU DONE WITH YOUR REPORT? I'M SORRY.
UM, JUST IN GENERAL, WHAT IS THE LIFESPAN OF A PROJECT LIKE THIS? HOW, HOW LONG DO YOU FORESEE THIS TYPE OF PROJECT LASTING? WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE THERE TO COMMIT TO THE CITY AND TO BUILDING A DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS AND, UH, AND THE LONGEVITY THAT, THAT ENTAILS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING AGAIN THAT OUR OWNER HAS HELD ONTO THIS FOR 15 YEARS.
SO THAT SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE KIND OF COMMITMENT THAT LOVE IT HAS TO MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE DO IS RIGHT FOR MISSOURI CITY.
SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW LONG SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL LAST AS OF YET.
AND I APPRECIATE HIS COMMITMENT AND HOLDING ONTO THE PROPERTY FOR SO LONG.
WHAT MADE HIM COME UP WITH SUCH A, WITH SUCH A DESIGN AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WHAT WAS THE DRIVING FORCE FOR THAT? WELL, WE ARE ACQUAINTED TO EATING, UH, WE'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT CREATING URBAN SPACES THAT ARE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND THAT INVITE ACTIVITY AND HEALTHY LIFESTYLES AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE LIVING IN THESE AREAS.
SO THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, TAKING SOMETHING FROM ZERO TO SOMETHING THAT'S THRIVING IS THE ULTIMATE, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S WHEN YOU W THAT GIVES US THE SATISFACTION AND THAT'S THE DRIVE FOR A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.
I JUST HAVE ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION FOR RIGHT NOW, AND THEN I'LL LET THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS JUMP IN.
UM, COULD YOU GUYS PUT IT BACK ON THE SLIDE WHERE IT SHOWS THE OVERALL, UH, PLAN I APPRECIATE THE SLIDE OPERATORS.
SO AS I'M LOOKING AT YOUR PROJECT, AND THERE ARE HOUSES THAT OBVIOUSLY, BUT OUR BACKUP TO YOUR CURRENT PROJECT, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE BUFFERS WOULD LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF WITH, UM, ARE WE, I KNOW WE, AREN'T GOING TO REALLY GET INTO DESIGN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE JUST CONSIDERING THIS AS A CONCEPT, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU COULD COVER SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH US EARLY, EARLY DEVELOPMENT STAGES.
AND, UH, WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH MISSOURI CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT MATCHES THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, WITH OUR APPLICATION, WE DID SUBMIT TO THAT DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, ESTABLISHED JENNIFER WENT, WHAT DOES THAT BUFFER IT? WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL US, PLEASE? YES.
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SO IF THIS WERE TO DEVELOP TODAY, UM, THE BUFFERS WOULD BE ALONG THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINES, UM, A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH A MASONRY WALL, IF THERE'S NOT ONE ALREADY EXISTING ALONG THAT LANE.UM, AND THEN A 20 FEET, 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG THE STREET SIDES.
SO INTERNAL LONG WALKS PLANTATION ALONG CREEK MA, UM, AND THEN ALSO ALONG HIGHWAY SAINTS.
AND THAT WOULD BE ON, UH, BOTH SIDES OF BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AS WELL, WHERE WHERE'S THE, UH, DETENTION IS THAT THE LIGHT TURQUOISE DOWN IN THE LEFT CORNER.
AND TODAY WE WILL BE WORKING WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE NEED TO TAKE.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL OF COURSE PLAN FOR WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER.
SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, OF THE APPLICANT OR JENNIFER.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD NOW, AS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON TONIGHT.
UM, JENNIFER, UH, I'M SORRY, MR. JIMA, I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP PLEASE, WITH HELPING ME KEEP THE TIME WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THIS TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
WE ASK THAT YOU DON'T REPEAT THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER.
MR. BRIGHTWELL IS NORMALLY REALLY GOOD.
AND I'LL EVEN ASK MS. OVERTON AS WELL.
IF YOU TWO WOULD PLEASE TRACK THE COMMENTS SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HEAR THEM AND THAT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO HEAR THEM REPEATEDLY.
UM, WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE REQUESTS? YES.
I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, VIVIAN TURNER.
I SEE THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK WITH SOMEONE ELSE? SO VIVIAN TURNER AND MYSELF, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE MYSELF WAS.
WELL, WE'LL START WITH YOU, MS. TURNER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US AND ANDREA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT OUTLINE ON 11 IN YOUR PROPOSAL.
UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS AS A CREEK MONT RESIDENT IS THE TRAFFIC I VISITED, UM, FREQUENT THE SALURE YOURS, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST SUMMER, THERE'S TONS OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
AND WE, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING A FAMILY DWELLING COMMUNITY, WE REALLY ARE OPPOSING A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC.
I UNDERSTAND YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, UH, AMAZON FULFILLMENT FACILITY AND, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATING THE EMPLOYEES IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, HOWEVER, THIS WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ON BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDES OF WATTS PLANTATION AND HIGHWAY SIX.
SO I WANTED TO JUST MENTION THAT.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, I WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, UH, OUR, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, IF WE COULD TRY TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP, UH, THE CURRENT ZONING THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
UM, AND MORE THAN ANYTHING, I THINK THE TRAFFIC IS SOMEWHAT AN ISSUE, UH, FOR, FOR A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS HERE IN CREEK.
I CAN'T HEAR YOU SONIA YOU'RE MUTED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
RENA MARSHALL, GOOD AFTERNOON TO EVERYONE.
UM, I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR CREEK MON HOA AND MRS. VIVIAN TURNER IS ALSO ON THE BOARD OF OUR HOA.
DID YOU MUTE YOURSELF? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
UM, SO ON THE SHED INCIDENT, BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SEE IF YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER CREATING A PROCESS AND A PROCEDURE SO THAT OUR RESIDENTIAL PERSONAL INFORMATION IS NOT HELD ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE IN AN AGENDA AS A PERMANENT, UH, THING,
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BECAUSE AS IS THE WAY IT'S LISTED ALL OF OUR QUICK MARK RESIDENTS' NAMES AND ADDRESSES ON LISTED FOR OVER 400 HOMES, WE HAVE BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH CREEK MONT, AND THERE IS NO PROCESS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR THAT NOW IN YOUR QUEST TO BE TRANSPARENT, IT KIND OF PUTS US AT RISK.YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THEY, THEY DID SEND IT OUT TO EVERYONE, BUT THAT PUTS US AT RISK FOR BEING HEAVILY MARKETED AND CRIME AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
IF PEOPLE WANT TO FIND THIS, CAUSE IT'S ALL PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, THEY CAN FIND US ON THEIR OWN.
THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO HELP ANYBODY WITH ANY OTHER TYPES OF AGENDA, YOU KNOW, TO GET TO US.
THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT, UM, IS OUR LETTER THAT CAME TO US, UM, IT'S IT WAS SENT OUT LIKE DATED FOR THE 1ST OF APRIL, AND THEN IT REALLY WASN'T, MINE WOULDN'T EVEN POKE POSTMARK UNTIL THE FIFTH, WHICH WAS A MONDAY.
I DID NOT GET IT UNTIL, UM, FRIDAY AFTERNOON OR FRIDAY.
SO THAT MEANS THAT WHEN I GOT OFF WORK, I WAS ABLE TO OPEN IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEND SOMETHING TO NEW YORK AND BACK FROM MONDAY TO FRIDAY.
SO, UM, IT'S ALL KIND OF HELPED, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND WE LOVE OUR CITY.
THAT'S WHY ARE WE HERE? AND WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY.
IT KIND OF GETS A LITTLE DISTRUST IN THERE WHEN WE, UH, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE A SUPPRESSION TYPE MODE PUTTING IT IN, OF COURSE YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT.
SO WE'LL DO I JUST WANT TO JUST PRESENT THAT OKAY.
BECAUSE IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THAT MUCH TIMEFRAME FOR US TO GET THE INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN MOBILIZE, EVEN THOUGH WE STILL WERE ABLE TO MOBILIZE, YOU KNOW, UH, AND TRY TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, I WANTED TO ASK, UM, IF THEY MOST AT THE END OF YOUR TERM.
SO WE DID NOT STOP THE OTHER PEOPLE FROM TALKING TO ALL THE OTHER GROUPS THAT WENT UP THREE MINUTES.
WE'RE ALMOST THERE GO, COME ON, COME ON.
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU, COME ON, YOU FINISHED ON OVER-TALK TO YOU.
SO THE, UM, WE HAVE, UH, A NUISANCE ISSUE ALREADY WITH THE, UH, STRIPES THAT'S BUILT RIGHT THERE.
SO IN CONSIDERATION FOR WHOEVER COMES THERE, WE WANT THEM TO CONSIDER THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
CAUSE WE DIDN'T, UH, FOR THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT YOU'RE BRINGING WITH THE NOISE NUISANCE WE HAVE, THE RESIDENTS ARE HAVING ARE IMPACTED BY THE, UH, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, THE COMMERCIAL TRUCKS AND THE, UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT TRUCKS THAT COME EARLY IN THE MORNING BEFORE THE ORDINANCE, UH, FOR THE MISSOURI CITY, GOD OUTFITS.
THAT'S WHAT STOPS A PERSON BEFORE 7:00 AM.
SO WHEN THEY COME IN THE MORNING TO DUMP THESE HUGE DUMPSTERS, THEY REALLY DROP IT DOWN AND IT RESONATES DOWN THROUGH TO THE COMMUNITIES POEMS, AND I'VE HEARD IT AND I'M NOT RIGHT NEXT TO IT, BUT I DID NOT REALIZE WHAT, WHAT I WAS HEARING, BUT IT SHOCKS YOU.
IT GOES THROUGH AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY LOUD.
AND THERE'S ALSO THE LIGHTING ISSUE.
SO WHEN WE START HAVING THAT MOVIE THEATER, IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A, UM, DRIVE IN THEATER, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO.
THEN WE HAVE THAT LIGHTING AND, AND NO ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO COME.
AND ANY OF THOSE BUSINESSES, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE IN BETWEEN, UM, THE BUSINESSES AND THE, THE RESIDENTS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THERE, BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH SPACE THERE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE, UM, THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY HOME THAT IS A MAJOR, MAJOR ISSUE FOR OVERCROWDING AND TRAFFIC FOR US.
AND THEN YOU, WITH THOSE APARTMENTS MULTI-FAMILY UNITS GOING IN PLACE, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY WAS THERE.
AND THEN WHAT'S THE PARKING LOT CAPACITY THAT THEY HAVE THERE BECAUSE, UH, ALSO WITH THOSE APARTMENTS, THEY'RE SOLD EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
AND SO THE NAMES CHANGE, THE PRICES GET LOWERED FOR THE ENTRY FOR YOU TO GET THERE.
AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY DECREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUE AGAIN.
UM, IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN SOME OTHER AREAS, SO, BUT THAT INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT FACILITY THAT'S COMING, WE HAVE THOSE ALONG THE, THE HIGHWAY SIX CORRIDOR.
THERE ARE SOME LIKE THE GETTYS AND ALL THAT ALREADY THAT HAVE OPENED AND CLOSED.
AND SOME OF THESE SAME TYPES OF BUSINESSES HAVE OPENED AND CLOSED AND STAYED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, UNITS AND STRIPS THAT ARE EMPTY FOR THE CORRIDOR THERE.
AND WE JUST DON'T WANT IT, YOU KNOW, BECOME EMPTY WITHIN A SHORT HALF-LIFE BECAUSE THE LONGEVITY FOR THOSE TYPE BUSINESSES ARE NOT LONG.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO BECOME CREATIVE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING
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TO BE PUT THERE.SO, UM, IF WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING AND I'M GONNA FINALIZE WITH, UH, THAT'S NOT A CATALYST FOR TRAFFIC AND SAFETY, BECAUSE WHAT IS GETTING READY TO OCCUR HERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE WHERE I'VE DONE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, UM, RESEARCH, JUST BEING AT SCHOOL YEARS AGO AS A NURSE.
AND THAT WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT WAS CAUSING, UM, THAT WAS, UM, A LOT OF TRAFFIC CAUSING A LOT OF ACCIDENTS AND STARTING FROM SPECIALLY TILL RUN ALL THE WAY BACK TO SEATTLE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WHEN WE, UH, THEY JUST OPENED ALL THOSE HEALTH CENTERS AND THEY ALL, I THINK IT WAS 10 OF THEM.
I COUNTED WITHIN A SHORT DISTANCE AND IT'S LIKE, WE, WE JUST KEEP DOING A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT END UP CLOSING IN A SHORT TIME, OR I HAVE TO BE RESOLD TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO STAY ALIVE.
AND, UM, I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE.
THANK YOU, MS. MARSHALL, SONYA CARBON.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
IT DEFINITELY PROVIDED SOME INSIGHT IN TO WHAT LOVE IT IS PLANNING TO DO.
I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY VISITED SAWYER YARDS, BUT I PLAN TO, UM, I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS GONNA REALLY SO ROUND A SMALL COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ONLY ON TWO SIDES OF HIGHWAY SIX AND WE, WHAT WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW HOW THE PEOPLE FELT WHEN THEY GOT THAT BIG WALMART IN FRONT OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
AND WE WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE THAT WE CAN, UM, BE ALLOWED TO GIVE OUR INPUT AND INSIGHT AND SOME THINGS THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS REQUESTING, UM, WHEN LOVE IT MEETS AND DECIDES EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO DO.
I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE COULD ASK FOR AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE TRY TO, WE WANT TO BE ALL GOOD NEIGHBORS, SO WE JUST WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS.
UH, CLIFF AND CHARMAINE BAILEY, NO CONCERNS FOR ANY KIND OF INDUSTRY OR, OKAY.
OH, CONCERNS IS SOME OF THESE SEEMINGLY UM, UH, WHAT SHOULD I SAY QUIETLY IN THE BACKGROUND? CHEMICAL PLANTS ARE DOING THINGS WHICH ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN HAVE AN EXPLOSION, WHICH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS, AS, UH, A SWIMMING POOL COMPANY HANDLING CHLORINE, AND THAT KIND OF ISSUE CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS IN THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY, AN ESCAPE, A CHLORINE, AND ANY SORT OF GAS AT A GAS STATION COULD HAVE AN EXPLOSION.
SO THOSE THINGS SHOULDN'T BE IN THE AREA AT ALL.
WE'RE SMART, WE'RE A SMALL COMMUNITY, AND WE SHOULD, WE, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE A CERTAIN KIND OF INDUSTRIES, YOU KNOW, AIR DANGEROUS, JUST DON'T RIGHT, DANGEROUS POLLUTION, THE POLLUTION AND THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF AN EXPLOSION OR RELEASE OF CHEMICALS IS POSSIBLE.
IN ADDITION, FROM WHAT I SAW ON THE SLIDES, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE OVERWHELMED BY DEVELOPMENT OF THAT STORE.
WE ARE A SMALL COMMUNITY AS HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE.
IT JUST LOOKED OVERWHELMING TO ME.
I THANK YOU GUYS FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM THE BAILEY'S LINNIE BRYANT, LAST CALL FOR LYNNIE, BRIAN.
ERIC FLEMING, LAST CALL FOR ERIC FLEMING MCLENDON PETERS, MCLENDON, PETER.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM HI.
MY NAME IS FELICIA ZILCH, AND I AM A RESIDENT OF CREEK.
AND, UM, WE ARE A SMALL, QUIET
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FAMILY COMMUNITY, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS BEING YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE THE LIVE MUSIC EVENTS AND SO FORTH.WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THAT WOULD CAUSE INCREASED TRAFFIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOISE AND NOT PERHAPS THE BEST ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE LIVE MUSIC EVENTS AND ALL THESE RESTAURANTS, THERE'S GOING TO BE ALCOHOLIC, BEVERAGES SERVED.
AND I JUST, I JUST FEEL IT, IT WOULD BE, WOULD PRESENT A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.
ALSO, UM, THE TOWN CENTER, UH, IS BEING DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A MILE AWAY OR ABOUT A MILE AWAY.
SO I'M WONDERING WHY COULDN'T THIS TYPE OF, UM, DEVELOPMENT BE PUT IN A MORE CENTRALIZED BUSINESS DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO IN FRONT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT HAVING THIS TYPE OF MIXED USE PROJECT RIGHT IN FRONT OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA WOULD, YOU KNOW, WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE SECURITY OF OUR AREA AND ACTUALLY BRING OUR PROPERTY VALUES DOWN.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF HANDS UP AND I'M GOING TO GET TO THOSE HANDS THAT ARE UP JUST A SECOND.
I CHANGED MY WHOLE LISTENING TO EVERYONE ELSE.
I CHANGED MY WHOLE, MY WHOLE PRESENTATION, BUT, UM, I HAVE, I HAVE AN ISSUE, THE FABRIC RECOMMENDATION FOR HIM, THE TWO FOR CHANGING TO MF TOO, BECAUSE, OR MAYBE IT'S AN ERROR, BUT I JUST PICKED THIS UP FROM MISSOURI CITY TODAY.
MF TWO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS SHOULD APPLY FOR ANY RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL USE, BUT LOOKING AT MISSOURI CITY'S OWN DOCUMENTS, IT SAYS MF TWO APPLIES ONLY FOR OUR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR OR SIX.
UH, AND NOT L NOT THE, NOT THE L TWO L THREE, WHICH IS ONLY COMMERCIAL.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE, INCLUDE ANY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING BECAUSE THESE BEAUTIFUL VENUES OR ACROSS A HIGHWAY, AND EVEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME, PEOPLE WILL, WILL, WILL TEND TO WANT TO CROSS THE HIGHWAY.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPER, IF THEY COME BACK WITH A BETTER CONCEPT OR WITH A MORE COMPLETE ONE WOULD SHOW HOW THEY WOULD TRY TO, UH, ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE WHO, UH, ATTEND THESE VENUES.
UM, I OPPOSED THE MULTIFAMILY, THE MULTIFAMILY CONCEPT ALTOGETHER, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS CHANGE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE DEVELOPER SINCE SHE'S HERE TO KEEP US IN THE LOOP AND TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY REGULARLY OR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED REGULARLY, BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UM, THIS CONCEPT DRAWING HAS VERY LITTLE DETAIL.
UH, YEAH, IT DOESN'T HAVE A, I'M SORRY, IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL.
UH, THE, THE, THE SOUTHWEST NORTHWEST CORNER OF HIGHWAY SIX AND CREEK MONT, UH, THERE THEY'RE NO LABELS THERE.
THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HIGHWAY SIX, 16 CREEK MONT, NO LABEL.
WE CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE AN IDEA OF A CONCEPT WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING.
AND I DO KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY NEW, BUT WE WOULD STILL, WE STILL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
AND AGAIN, WOULD LIKE TO BE IN AT THE TABLE WITH THE DECISIONS.
UM, I HAD QUESTIONS THAT I HAD QUESTIONS AND THEY GOT ANSWERED.
SO I HAVE, I HAVE A LOT OF SCRATCH OUTS, BUT, UM, AGAIN, MY CONCERN TOO, IS THAT IF AMAZON IS BUILDING AND THE DEVELOPER IS WISHING TO SATISFY THEM, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE DEVELOPER TO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY 14, I'VE BEEN HERE 14 AND A HALF YEARS.
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BECAUSE IT'S A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.AND SO DID A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT, LOT LESS THAN 14 OR 15 YEARS AGO.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE EXCITEMENT OF A HIP URBAN SETTING, BUT THIS, THESE ARE THE SUBURBS.
PEOPLE MOVED OUT HERE TO BEAT IN THE SUBURBS, NOT IN A HIP URBAN SETTING AND ALL THAT.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER THAT, PLEASE, PLEASE.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE A BUNCH OF GRUMPY PEOPLE, BUT THOSE ARE REALISTIC THINGS I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT THE, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ALSO CONSIDER THAT, UM, THERE IS A LARGE DEVELOPMENT JUST ACROSS THE FORT BEND COUNTY TOLL ROAD.
THAT WOULD BE JUST AS, UH, THERE'LL BE JUST AS CONVENIENT TO AMAZON.
AND IN THAT MULTIFAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE BETTER PLACED THERE.
AND I'M SURE WITH LOVE IT BEING AS, UH, CREATIVE AS IT IS, THEY CAN FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO PUT THERE BESIDES A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT FIT OUR NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING, UH, UH, NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING, THAT AREA IS ZONED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL.
UM, SO YEAH, I WOULD ASK THAT DATE THAT THEY NOT DEVELOP MULTI-AGE OF MULTIFAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENT THERE, AND THAT ALL INGRESS AND EGRESS AND EAGERNESS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR INTO THOSE VENUES BE FROM HIGHWAY SIX.
CAUSE THE WAY IT'S PUT ON THEIR DESERT, THERE'S THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ALL INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM HIGHWAY SIX, IT WOULD BE SAFER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WOULD NOT INTRODUCE PEOPLE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE.
WE'VE HAD THAT ISSUE ALREADY, UM, WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BUILT JUST A LITTLE WAYS DOWN WATTS, PLANTATION THAT, UH, BUTTS TO US, AND THAT WILL GET EVEN WORSE WITH THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
I LOVE I, BUT I, I DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE IN A HIP URBAN CITY.
ALSO IF AMAZON, I CAN SEE THAT THEY WANT SOMEWHERE FOR THEIR PEOPLE TO LIVE, BUT WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE STILL GOING UP.
THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSING GOING UP HERE.
ANNETTE, I GOT A WHOLE, YOUR FEET TO THE FIRE ON THREE MINUTES.
DARKEST SHORTEN SUSAN WHITE LAMONT, MCGUINNESS, TIMOTHY BARNS, HERMINE TAYLOR AMOS, TERRY.
NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THE RAISED HANDS.
WE WILL STOP AT THREE MINUTES.
JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT'S LEFT TO SPEAK.
ALTHOUGH IT'S LATE, WE WANT TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY THAT HAS SOMETHING NEW TO SAY.
AND WITHIN THREE MINUTES, PLEASE, WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD COMMENTS.
I'VE GOT ALMOST ALL OF THEM CATALOGED, BUT IF IT'S THE SAME, PLEASE REFRAIN.
I, UM, I'M A RESIDENT IN, UM, CREEK MONT.
I LIVE, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORE AND I AM AT THE BACK OF THE COMMUNITY AND I CAN ACTUALLY HEAR THE TRASH TRUCKS AND THE DUMPSTERS UP AT THE STORE.
SO THAT IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN, THE NOISE.
UM, BUT REALLY WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE DEVELOPER IS WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE.
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MORE INFORMATION AND BETTER INFORMATION, A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? OKAY, WELL, WE'LL RETURN BACK TO THAT QUESTION AT THE END OF THE, UH, HEARING AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.I, I CAN READ THAT FROM THE REPORT AFTER THE END OF THE HEARING.
UH, MCKINNEY, LAST NAME MCKINNEY.
MCKEANY ARE YOU HERE? YES, I AM.
I THOUGHT I UN-MUTED MY MIC AND I GUESS I HADN'T NO WORRIES.
I HAVE NEW ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO MENTION.
I'M LOOKING AT THE DIAGRAM ON MY COMPUTER.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, I'M SEEING SOMETHING HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT AN OUTDOOR FARMER'S MARKET.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A FARMER'S MARKET THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
MAYBE ABOUT A MILE OR TWO DOWN HIGHWAY SIX, GOING TOWARD SIANNA RANCH DRIVE.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S OVER BY THE LIBRARY.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE AN OUTDOOR FARMER'S MARKET.
THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I HAVE, AND IT ALSO BRINGS ABOUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC AS WELL.
MY NEXT CONCERN WOULD BE DRAINAGE.
I WAS VERY, I'M VERY NEW TO THE AREA.
WELL, PRETTY MUCH SEVEN YEARS AND I EXPERIENCED HARVEY AND IT SCARED ME TREMENDOUSLY.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TAKING AWAY A LOT OF THE GREEN SPACE AND PUTTING IN A LOT OF CONCRETE.
THERE WILL BE NOWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO.
SO I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THE DEVELOPER KEEPS THAT IN MIND WHEN PLANNING TO BUILD THESE NEW SPACES AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I HAVE ONE SUGGESTION AS A PROPOSAL WOULD BE A PARK, WHICH WOULD KEEP OUR GREEN SPACE AND CAT, AND IT WOULD BE AN AREA THAT WOULD BEAUTIFY THE AREA AS WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
YES, MA'AM UH, LISA CLAY SCRUGGS.
UM, I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE A POINT THAT I'M A LIVING CREMANT NORTH.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT I WILL BE BY CON INDOOR RECREATIONAL PARK AND ACTIVE, SORRY, IN OUR STREET IS AT THE POLICE PRESENCE.
WE KNOW THAT IT WILL BRING MORE NOISE.
AND SO IT WILL BE MORE OF US CALLING THE POLICE THAT HAPPEN TO COME OUT TO, YOU KNOW, HANDLE THE NOISE ISSUES WITH ALL THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE WHOLE IDEA OF HAVING A BREWERY IN FRONT, IN THE BACK OF MY HOME, WHERE WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE LIKE OUTSIDE PLAYING SCARES ME BECAUSE ANYTIME THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, RIGHT BY THE FORD BEANPOLE ROAD, PEOPLE TEND TO COME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO LOOK FOR A WAY TO GET OUT AROUND THE TRAFFIC.
IT'S NOTHING THAT COLDEST SNACKS.
AND SO PEOPLE IT'S BASICALLY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY TO AVOID ANY TYPE OF ACCIDENT.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN AND I JUST HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ROCK COMMUNITY.
I THINK OUR COMMUNITY, I BE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 30 YEARS AND, UM, I DON'T REALLY THINK THIS MATCHES OUR COMMUNITY, BUT, UM, WE WOULD PREFER A DOG PARK THAN AN OUTDOOR STUDIO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. FRANCINE PARKER WILL BE OUR LAST GUEST SPEAKER ON, ON THE SEASONING.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN HERE WITH US.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR MAN FOR THREE MINUTES.
MOST OF MY CHRISTINA'S WERE ALREADY ADDRESSED, BUT I WILL MENTION THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT FLOODING FAST FOODS, RESTAURANTS.
WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE OF THAT NEAR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE NEED MORE FAMILY ORIENTED RESTAURANTS, DINING RESTAURANTS, AS WELL AS THE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE A HIGH END COMPLEX, WHERE I THINK THE AVERAGE COST NOW TO RENT A
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NICE ONE BEDROOM, HOW A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT MAY RUN AT 1230, $1,400.WILL IT BE UPWARD TO THAT END? WHETHER IT WOULD BE LOWER BECAUSE MANY AMAZON WAREHOUSE EMPLOYEES DO NOT MAKE, UM, UPPER MIDDLE CLASS SALARIES.
SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE ISSUES AND I HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD REACH OUT TO OUR HOA AND WORK WITH OUR, UH, COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPING THIS SITE.
I THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL.
I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK I WAS BEING RUDE EARLIER, BUT I WAS THINKING EARLIER THAT THE TIME WAS GOING TO BE REALLY SHORT BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE DOING A LOT OF DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH.
SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I WAS TRYING TO BE RUDE TO YOU.
IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE GUESS I'M SORRY, MR. JIMA.
JUST NEED TO MENTION, UM, THE OTHER PROTESTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THERESA SWANSON AND I'M COMING.
WE ALSO HAVE HOMEO MAXINE, MCKAYLA, BLAIR KELSEY, FAR MORE, FAR MORE TETSY FOFANA AND SO SHE, UH, BROWN, UM, THEY HAVE ALL SUBMITTED PROTESTS.
UH, JAMIE, AND, AND EVEN FOR THOSE WHOSE NAMES THAT I DID CALL OUT EARLIER THAT WERE NOT PRESENT ON THE CALL, EVERY LAST ONE OF THOSE WERE ALSO, UH, FOR PROTEST AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONER OVERTON TO POSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. BRIGHT BROWN, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CURLS OF PUBLIC HEARING AND I AS WELL.
WOULD YOU PLEASE PRICE THE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE? CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE ON THE QUICK ONE? I AGREE.
THAT WAS THE BEST COMMENT I WROTE DOWN.
UM, COMMISSIONERS ARE, WE'VE GOT OUR HANDS FULL HERE WITH THIS ONE ON TONIGHT BEFORE US, WE HAVE SAPS RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE PD TO ALLOW FOR MIXED USES AS PROPOSED.
UM, AND YOU CAN READ THEM AS WELL.
MOVING FORWARD ON THE SCREEN, THIS PARTICULAR PD WOULD ALSO BE INCLUSIVE OF IN THERE TOO, WHICH IS MULTIFAMILY.
UM, THEY'D ALSO APPLY A SECTION 13 SIGN REGULATIONS AND ALLOW FOR SOME SIGNAGE AS DEPICTED, UH, WITHIN, UH, THE PROJECT, WHICH WE'VE SEEN JUST BEFORE US WITH REGARDS TO ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE HEARD ON TONIGHT.
UH, I DID ASK MS. OVERTIME AND MR. BRIGHTWELL TO CATALOG THEM AND THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE HEARD THEM AS WELL.
AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A MOTION.
I'M LOOKING FOR A SECOND AND THEN WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION.
WE SEND THIS CITY COUNCIL WAS A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY.
IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER BAILEY.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE COMMENTS OR ACTUALLY THERE WAS TWO PEOPLE THAT ASKED COMMENTS ABOUT A TIMELINE.
UM, AND THE STAFF REPORT UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE, WHICH BECOMES PART OF THE AGREEMENT FOR THE PLOT FOR THE PD.
IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT PHASE ONE IS ANTICIPATED COMPLETION BY SPRING 2024.
AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT EXACTLY HARD AND FAST, BUT AT LEAST A, A D A DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE THAT WOULD INCLUDE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE, MULTIFAMILY AND OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL PHASE TWO.
THE ANTICIPATED COMPLETION WOULD BE BY THE WINTER OF 2024, AGAIN, MORE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, POTENTIALLY THE OUTDOORS FARMER MARKET FARMER'S MARKET PHASE THREE ANTICIPATED COMPLETION BY FALL OF 20, 25 MORE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE INDOOR RECREATIONAL, UH, TYPE FACILITY
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THAT THEY'VE SHOWN PHASE FOUR.THE FINAL PHASE WOULD BE ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE SUMMER OF 2026, AGAIN, THE FINAL PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE ART AND DANCE STUDIOS OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE IS DEPICTED IN THE EXHIBIT.
SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THERE'S A FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE TO AT LEAST GET THE FIRST PHASE DONE, WHICH IS, UH, THE MAJOR PORTION OF THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE, MORE THAN LIKELY SUPPORTING THE MULTI-FAMILY AND THE OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL AS PER THE EXHIBIT.
SO YOU'D SEE WORK STARTING ON THAT.
UM, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, DEPENDING ON DEVELOPMENT PLANS, APPROVALS ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO GO WITH THIS.
YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD, UH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU HAD TWO OBSERVATIONS OR JUST THE ONE, THE PEOPLE THAT HAD ASKED ABOUT TIMELINE.
I WAS JUST SAYING, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT IF THE APPLICANT IS STILL AVAILABLE.
UM, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, UM, I WAS, UM, WITH REGARDS TO INGRIS AND, UH, DIGRESS WILL, THAT WILL, ALL OF THAT STUFF COME IN OFF OF HIGHWAY SIX, WHEREAS SEMINARY SEMINARIES STAGES FOR, SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STILL NEED TO DO A, UM, A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH MISSOURI CITY TO UNDERSTAND, UM, HOW TO FACILITATE INGRESS EGRESS, UM, THAT WILL BE MOST FRIENDLY TO THIS, TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE DEVELOP.
YOU'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS OF THOSE RESIDENTS ARE WITHIN CREEK MINE.
WE DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO THEM.
UM, LIKE THE YOUNG LADY STATED EARLIER, THEIR INFORMATION IS LITTERED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PACKAGE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE PACKAGE, BUT DEFINITELY, PROBABLY REACH OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THEIR HOA OR TO THEIR BOARD MEMBERS SO THAT YOU CAN, UM, START SOME DIALOGUE THERE, UM, WOULD PROBABLY BOLD YOU SOME GOOD WILL AS THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'S JUST THE PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION.
COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER? THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVERTON.
MA'AM THE TIMELINE THAT BRIAN WILL JUST TOLD US THIS, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE COMPLETED IN FOUR YEARS.
I WANTED THIS TIMELINE IS PRELIMINARY.
ONLY WE WILL DEVELOP AS WE RECEIVE APPROVALS AS THE MARKET, AS THE MARKET DEVELOPS.
WE, AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE HEALTH CRISIS THE LAST YEAR, IT'S BEEN VERY COOL TO RETAIL AND TO OFFICE.
AND SO WE WILL DEVELOP AND CREATE A TIMELINE THAT REALLY FOLLOWS THE MARKET.
AND ONE THAT MISSOURI CITY, UM, IS IN AGREEMENT WITH, RIGHT? SO BASICALLY IN OUR PD, IN OUR OWN INCHES, WE TYPICALLY HAVE A FIVE-YEAR WINDOW.
THEY'VE GIVEN THEM BASICALLY AN APPROACH TO THAT FIVE-YEAR WINDOW COMMISSIONER.
AND I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE APPROACH THAT GIVES THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT ALSO GIVES WHAT THE INTENT IS.
ANY OTHER A COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS, MR. BAILEY? I STARTED YOUR MIKE LIGHTER.
UH, I EMPATHIZE WITH, UH, SOME OF THE COMMENTS REGARDING SOUND AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO BE MINDFUL OF PROVIDING SUFFICIENT SOUND BARRIERS, PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF ACTIVE ELEMENT WHERE YOU HAVE THE FARMER'S MARKET AND ENTERTAINMENT AREAS.
AND THEN UP REGARDING THAT MULTIFAMILY DESIGNATION, THAT THAT CAN TAKE DIFFERENT FORMS. AND AGAIN, GOING FORWARD, JUST WHAT KIND OF MULTI-FAMILY, WHAT KIND OF DENSITY, THAT KIND OF THING, JUST TO BE MINDFUL THAT AS YOU PROCEED FORWARD WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THOSE COMMENTS, MR. BAILEY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME? I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
I BELIEVE I HAVE EYES FROM O'MALLEY SILVER
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BRIGHTWELL AND MYSELF.WERE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANY NAYS COMMISSIONER OVER TO NATE LUCAS? CORRECT? O'MALLEY DID YOU VOTE? YEP.
YOU WERE, YOU WERE IN THE EYES.
ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD HAVE VOTED AT THIS TIME OF THIS PROJECT.
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, AT STAFF'S CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
I DO ENCOURAGE THOSE AT CREEK MINE TO DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON, EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS TO THEM, AND ALSO BE PREPARED TO ATTEND, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS WILL BE HEARD BEFORE THEM.
UM, JENNIFER, I BELIEVE THAT MEETING IS MAY 3RD.
CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT BEFORE WE MOVED FROM THIS PROJECT AND THAT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, MAY 3RD, THE VERY FIRST MONDAY OF MAY.
WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE.
[7.F. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT]
AT NOW ITEM NUMBER SEVEN F THIS IS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST, UM, A REQUEST BY H PAUL DAUGHTER NEWQUEST PROPERTIES TO ZONE AND APPROXIMATE 42.93 ACRE TRACT OF LAND, UH, FOR RETAIL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL TONIGHT.HELLO, JENNIFER, THE LAST ZONING CASE, AND IT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY, FAIRLY SIMPLE.
UM, THIS IS THE FORT BEN TOWN CENTER TOO.
UM, YOU ALL CONSIDERED THE FORT FORBIDDEN TOWN CENTER THREE ON THAT SOUTH EAST SIDE OF THE TOLL ROAD AND HIGHWAY SITES.
UM, SO THIS IS THE SECOND ONE.
THIS IS THE SITE WHERE THE CINEMARK THEATER, UM, IS PROPOSED TO GO.
AND, UH, THIS SITE IT'S ALREADY ZONED LC, SO, UM, OR LARGELY ZONED LC C3.
UM, SO IT'S NOT, UM, A CONSIDERATION OF THE USES, UM, PERMITS ALREADY IN PLAN OR PLANS ARE ALREADY IN PERMIT REVIEW, UH, FOR THE CINEMARK SITE.
UM, AND SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL THAT'S, UH, PROPOSED TO GO WITHIN THIS AREA.
AND SO THIS IS THE OVERALL, UH, KIND OF SITE PLAN, UH, THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPING.
UM, THE AREA THAT'S GENERALLY SHOWN IN THAT DOTTED AREA IS A LITTLE OVER ONE ACRE.
UM, THAT TRACT STILL HAS THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF SUBURBAN DISTRICT.
UH, SO THIS APPLICATION WOULD, UM, REZONE THAT PROPERTY OR CLASS, YOU KNOW, RE OR ZONE THAT PROPERTY TO L C3, UM, CONSISTENT WITH, UM, ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, PORTIONS OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE ASPECT FOR, FOR THE ZONING CASE.
THE OTHER PART IS WHAT YOU SAW WITH THE FORBIDDEN TOWN CENTER THREE.
AND IT'S THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SAME SIGN PACKAGE, UH, THAT YOU SAW? SO, AS WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH WITH THE, UM, HEIGHT OF THE ELEVATED LANES OF THE FORT BEND PARKWAY AND HIGHWAY SIX, UM, THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE TALLER SIGNS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THIS SHOPPING CENTER SITE.
UM, SO WE'RE AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE TALLEST SIGN AT 70 FEET MAXIMUM, UM, AND THEN, UH, SCALING DOWN TO 24 FEET, UM, AND THEN SIGN TYPE C AND B, UM, ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE, UM, ALONG HIGHWAY STATES.
UM, AND SO THE, UH, NEXT SLIDE IS THE SITE PLAN LAID OUT WITH HOW THAT THOSE SIGNS WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED.
UM, SO IF THE ORIENTATION HERE IS TOWARDS THE TOP IS TRAMMELL FRESNO ROAD TOWARDS THE BOTTOM IS HIGHWAY SIX TO THE RIGHT, IS THE FORT BEN, UH, TOLL ROAD, FORT BEND PARKWAY.
AND SO ALONG THE FLOORPAN PARKWAY, UH, SIDE, UH, THEY HAVE, UM, AT LEAST ONE 70 FOOT TALL SIGN, UM, SHOWN, ASSIGN A, UM, PROPOSAL ON THAT LANE.
UM, THAT'S THE TALLEST AND THE ONLY, UM, SIGN AT THAT ELEVATION.
UM, AND THEN THE 24 FOOT TALL SIGNS, THE SIGN B, UH, YOU CAN SEE A LONG, THE, YOU SEE IT ALONG THE HIGHWAY SIX FRONTAGE.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ONE ALONG THE FOUR OR
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ALONG THE TREMBLE FRESNO, UM, FRONT-END STALLONE ONE OVER TO THE LEFT.UM, AND SO THOSE WOULD BE SIMILAR HEIGHTS TO, UH, WHAT YOU SEE AT THE KROGER SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS THE HIGHWAY SIX, UM, UH, CORRIDOR.
SO, UH, THE LAST PART OF THE SIGN PACKAGE IS THE WALL SIGNS.
AND SO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW WITH FORBID TOWN CENTER THREE, UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AND IT'S JUST THE PLACEMENT OF THE WALL SIGNS.
UM, HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY, UH, FOR THE LOCATION THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FLUSHED OUT AGAINST THE WALL, UM, THAT THEY CAN BE PROJECTED ABOVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A COLUMN OR, UM, A BAR AS YOU KIND OF SEE THERE.
UM, BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE DESIGN STYLE, UM, THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER'S LOOKING AT, UH, SIMILAR TO, UH, THAT FORBIDDEN TOWN CENTER THREE THAT WE DISCUSSED, UM, PREVIOUSLY.
UM, SO I THINK THE LAST SLIDE IS THERE A DEAL SUMMARY? I DON'T KNOW IF I DID.
I DON'T THINK I DID A SUMMARY ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE L C3 ZONING FOR THE ONE ACRE TRACK.
UM, AND THEN THE SIGN PACKAGE, UM, WOULD BE INCLUDED WITHIN THIS PD AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
I WAS TRYING TO UNMUTE MYSELF.
SO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JENNIFER WE'VE PRETTY MUCH TAKEN A LOOK AT THIS THREE TIMES.
THIS WILL MAKE MAGIC NUMBER THREE.
I LOVE THAT ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YEAH.
THIS IS, THIS ALSO WAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE SEPARATE LIKE TO SPEAK? YES.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, LIKE HOW MANY UNITS AND WHAT WAS THAT PARKING SPOTS FOR? OH, I'M SORRY.
I'M SORRY, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THE ANSWERS GOT ANSWERED AT QUESTIONS.
WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE ON THE NEXT PROJECT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YEAH, NO PROBLEM.
I THINK THE, UH, OKAY, WE'RE ON.
LAST CALL ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE IN REGARDS TO ITEM SEVEN F THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ON, IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHO MADE THE MOTION? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. O'MALLEY.
IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. BAILEY.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE MOTION CARRIES TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT JENNIFER'S REPORT AND FORWARDED ON TO COUNCIL AS PRESENTED? O'MALLEY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. LUCAS, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH A SECOND? YES.
MA'AM IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
WE HAVE NO ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS BEFORE.
[9. OTHER MATTERS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION OR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE]
OH MY GOD.UM, MR. O'MALLEY, HOW YOU FEELING? ALRIGHTY.
UM, UNDER OTHER MATTERS WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION ON TONIGHT, WE HAVE TO, UM, TAKE INTO SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THE NEW TREE ORDINANCE COMMITTEE THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED AND ALL TONIGHT, WE NEED TO SELECT A MEMBER OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO SERVE ON THAT TREE ORDINANCE COMMITTEE.
UM, I DO KNOW THAT JOHN O'MALLEY WHO HAS THE EXPERIENCE IN REGARDS TO LANDSCAPING AND WITH REGARDS TO TREES, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM IF HE WOULD CONSIDER TAKING ON THAT COMMITTEE.
HOWEVER, THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER, UM, BY ALL MEANS, PLEASE, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER AS WELL? OKAY.
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SILVER AND OVERTURN.UM, ONCE YOU GUYS, UH, GET EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH FORMALIZED, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WITH, UH, MARIA, THE CITY SECRETARY, IF IN THE EVENT THAT SHE DID NOT NEED THREE, BECAUSE IT DID SAY FOR US TO JUST SELECT ONE, UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ALL THREE OF YOU GOING.
AND YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, GIVE US BACK AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU CAN.
UM, WE SURE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF ALL THREE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEND MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE OTHER MEMBERS AT MY SERVE.
LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH SENDING SILVER AND SENDING O'MALLEY.
ARE WE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? YES.
SINCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION? YES.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE SELECT MR. O'MALLEY AND MR. SILVA TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN THE TREE ORDINANCE COMMITTEE ON OUR BEHALF.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH THE MOTION CARRIES.
IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN? OH GOSH.
THE ONE COMMENT WE ARE JOURNEY MATT FOR EVERYBODY ON THE, ON THE, OKAY, LET ME GET A SECOND.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND I TAKE MR. O'MALLEY.
I HEARD YOU FIRST, SARAH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME, I'LL TAKE MR. BRIGHTWELL.
THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE STILL ON THE PHONE, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT FOR BEING IN COVID AND ZOOM, WE HAD AS MANY AS 58 ATTENDEES ON THE ZOOM MEETING, WHICH IS PRETTY FANTASTIC.
BUT THE OTHER THING, WHAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS ALTHOUGH WE TOOK TILL 10 30, I KNOW I'M ADDING TO IT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE SINCE BEFORE 88.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN ON COMMISSION FOR QUITE A WHILE.
NOW THAT SEEING THIS LEVEL OF INTEREST WITH THESE LARGER MULTI-USE DISTRICTS IS A HUGE DEAL FOR US.
AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO FIND WAYS TO WORK WITH THOSE ALSO, MADAM CHAIR.
ALL RIGHT GUYS, PAPER AND COMMISSIONER BROWN.
THANK YOU, DARREN LARGER AGENDA.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE THIS LARGE AND QUITE IN QUITE SOME TIME.
YES, THIS IS COUNCILMAN EMORY.
HOW ARE YOU, SIR? I'M SORRY THAT WE'VE GOTTEN WAY OFF THE CUSP HERE.
HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING WELL? UH, I, UH, PERSEVERE THROUGH THE, UH, THE WHOLE MEETING.
UH, I THOUGHT I HAD BROUGHT A FLASHBACK.
SO THE COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT WE HAD, BUT I WANTED TO COMMEND, UH, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR THEIR, UH, THEIR DILIGENT, UH, EVALUATION OF, UH, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT BEFORE THEM.
AND, UH, JUST TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE, AND I, AND I, I CAN THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR THE CONSOLE THAT WE APPRECIATE, UH, THE WORK THAT, UH, YOU PEOPLE PUT INTO, UH, MAKING, UH, MISERY CITY, UH, UH, A THRIVING AND, AND GROWING, UH, ENTERPRISE.
SO THANKS AGAIN AND, UH, NIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNSELOR, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO ADJOURN SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AND I AS WELL.