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GOOD EVENING

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EVERYONE.

THE TIME IS 7:00 PM.

AT

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CALL THE MISSOURI CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN A ROLL CALL AT THIS TIME.

UM, ONCE I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU WOULD SIGNIFY YOUR PRESENCE, PLEASE BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, PRESENCE OR I, THAT EITHER ONE WILL BE FINE.

COMMISSIONER SILVER COMMISSIONER OVERTON PRESENT COMMISSIONER BRIGHTWELL, COMMISSIONER HANEY, COMMISSIONER LUCAS, COMMISSIONER RASMUS AND COMMISSIONER BAILEY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND MYSELF IS HERE AS WELL.

SANDY BROWN, MARSHALL AND I'LL SHARE IS THE CHAIRMAN.

GOOD TO SEE YOU, MR. BAILEY.

AT THIS TIME,

[3. READING OF MINUTES]

WE WILL, UM, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH OF 2021.

IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY.

AND KIM, MR. BRIGHTWELL, IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MS. RASMUS.

UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE MINUTES OR ANY, UH, CHANGES OR ANYTHING? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, I AS WELL.

ARE THERE ANY NAYS OR ABSTENTIONS? THANK YOU.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[4. REPORTS]

WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE REPORTS UNDER, UM, COMMISSION REPORTS, CHAIR.

I HAVE NO REPORT ON TONIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER REPORTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NO.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE US STAFF REPORTS, UM, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, MS. GOMEZ, DID IT MEAN SHARED COMMISSIONED? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

MA'AM I DON'T HAVE A REPORT, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE JUST THE WORK THAT, UH, JIMA EDWARDS, OUR PLANNING TECHNICIAN AND GRETCHEN PYLE, OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COORDINATOR PUT IN ON THIS AGENDA AND JUST IN OUR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS.

UM, SO AS THE COMMISSION CAN SEE, AND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AGENDA, IT'S A FAIRLY LENGTHY ONE AND THEY REALLY STEPPED UP.

UM, THEY'RE, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN EXCEPTIONAL AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE, BUT THEY'VE REALLY STEPPED UP AND THIS LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND TRY AND, UH, ASSISTING US IN GETTING THIS OUT IS, UM, WORTHY, WORTHY OF BEING NOTED.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

AND WE ALSO APPRECIATE RECEIVING, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SOME KIND OF THE PRELIMS AND SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE FACED WITH ON TONIGHT AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH STAFF.

YES, I'M HERE.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVER JEN.

I'M HEARING AN ECHO.

IS ANYBODY ELSE HEARING AN ECHO? HMM, I'M PRETTY CLEAR ON MY END.

OKAY.

IF EVERYONE, IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, THOUGH, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO PLEASE MUTE, MUTE YOURSELVES, THAT THAT WOULD TRULY HELP WITH SOME OF THE ECHO AS WELL.

OKAY, WE'LL CONTINUE.

NOW.

I UNDERSTAND TONIGHT WE DO HAVE A REPORT BY MS. MOORE.

UM, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR ON FAIR HOUSING IS MS. MOORE AVAILABLE TRYING TO GET MY PHONE OFF MUTE? NO WORRIES.

HELLO AND GOOD EVENING.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO APRIL IS FAIR IS NATIONAL FAIR HOUSING MONTH.

SO THE CITY IS WORKING TOWARDS FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING MISSION.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

LAST YEAR IN APRIL, WE CELEBRATED THE 51ST ANNIVERSARY OF THE PASSING OF THE FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968.

THIS YEAR, WHERE WE ARE RECOMMITTING TO THE GOAL OF ELIMINATING HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AND TO CREATE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, NOT ONLY IN MISSOURI CITY, BUT IN EVERY COMMUNITY, UH, FUNDAMENTALLY FAIR HOUSING MEANS THAT EVERY PERSON CAN LIVE FREE.

THIS MEANS THAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE OPEN AND WELCOMING FREE FROM HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AND HOSTILITY.

OUR COMMITMENT TO FAIR HOUSING IS A LIVING COMMITMENT.

ONE

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THAT REFLECTS THE NEEDS OF AMERICA TODAY AND PREPARES US FOR A FUTURE OF TRUE INTEGRATION.

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THE FAIR HOUSING ACT REFERS TO TITLE EIGHT OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1968.

THIS ACT IN ADDITION TO THE TEXAS FAIR HOUSING ACT WAS ENACTED TO PROTECT PERSONS FROM HOUSING DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX NATIONALITY, FAMILIAL STATUS, DISABILITY, OR ANCESTRY, ACCORDING TO THE U S DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

2 MILLION INSTANCES OF HOUSING DISCRIMINATION ARE ESTIMATED TO TAKE PLACE EACH YEAR ACROSS THE NATION.

DESPITE THIS LESS THAN 2% OF THOSE INSTANCES ARE REPORTED AS MANY RENTERS AND HOME BUYERS DO NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ACTIVITIES ARE ILLEGAL UNDER THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.

THE PURPOSE OF THE FAIR HOUSING ACT IS TO PROVIDE FAIR HOUSING PRACTICES, CREATE PROCEDURE FOR INVESTIGATION COMPLAINTS AND TO PROVIDE RIGHTS AND REMEDIES UNDER FEDERAL LAW.

BUT THIS ALSO MEANS THAT EACH ONE OF US HAS ACCESS TO NEIGHBORHOODS OF OPPORTUNITY WHERE, WHERE OUR CHILDREN CAN ATTEND QUALITY SCHOOLS, ALLOWS OUR ENVIRONMENT TO BE HEALTHY AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IN APRIL, WE TAKE THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE ADVANCEMENTS OF EQUAL HOUSING ACCESS.

UM, SINCE IT IS FAIR, HOUSING MONTH IS SPENT.

IT'S DESERT IS DESIGNATED TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE ADVANCEMENTS OF EQUAL HOUSING ACCESS AND TO REMIND YOURSELVES THE PURPOSE OF THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.

THE FAIR HOUSING ACT APPLIES TO HOUSING AND HOUSING RELATED ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING APARTMENT AND HOME RENTALS, MORTGAGE LENDING, HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE REAL ESTATE SELLS THE FAIR HOUSING ACT SHOULD ALSO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN SETTING DEED RESTRICTIONS, LAND USE ORDINANCES DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING CODES, ENFORCEMENT POLICIES, OR RENTING, INCLUDING MAKING REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE DISABLED AND, UH, PERTAINING TO SHOWING SELLING, AND MORTGAGING OR INSURING HOMES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

OKAY.

SOME EXAMPLES OF HOUSING DISCRIMINATION UNDER THE FAIR HOUSING ACT ARE REFUSAL TO RENT OR SELL HOUSING REFUSAL TO NEGOTIATE FOR HOUSING, MAKING HOUSING, UNAVAILABLE SETTING, DIFFERENT TERMS, CONDITIONS, OR PRIVILEGES FOR SELL OR RENTAL OF PROPERTY PERSUADING OWNERS TO SELL OR RENT THEIR HOME FOR PROFIT DENYING ACCESS TO OR MEMBERSHIP IN A FACILITY OR SERVICE RELATED TO THE SELL OF HOUSING IN ADVERTISING OR MAKING ANY STATEMENT THAT INDICATES A LIMITATION OR PREFERENCE BASED ON RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, INCLUDING SEXUAL HARASSMENT, FAMILIAL STATUS, DISABILITY, OR BLINDNESS.

THIS PROHIBITION APPLIES TO SINGLE FAMILY AND OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING THAT IS OTHERWISE EXEMPT FROM THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.

IN 2018 ALONE, THERE WERE 31,202 COMPLAINTS OF HOUSING DISCRIMINATION.

THIS NUMBER HAS SEEN AN INCREASE SINCE THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC, ESPECIALLY CONCERNING SEXUAL HARASSMENT AGAINST TENANTS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, ONE EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF CITIES ARE NOT COMPLIANT, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH INVESTIGATING OR FORWARDING FAIR HOUSING COMPLAINTS.

UM, THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, THERE WERE, THERE WAS A COMPLAINT ALLEGED AND FILED ON MAY 26, 2015, THE CITY IMPOSED A ONE HALF MILE SPACING RULE THAT PROHIBITED MANY SMALL GROUP HOMES FROM OPERATING IN BEAUMONT.

THEY ALSO IMPOSED FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS, EXCEEDING THOSE IMPOSED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS AS PART OF ITS CERTIFICATION IN FUNDING OR FOR GROUP HOMES, THE RESTRICTIONS PROHIBITED PERSONS WITH INTELLECTUAL OR DEVELOPMENTAL FROM LIVING IN BEAUMONT.

THE RESTRICTIONS RESULTED IN A NURSING HOME INSTITUTIONALIZATION OF A WOMAN WHO WAS FORCED TO MOVE OUT OF HER HOME IN THE CITY, VIOLATED THE FAIR HOUSING ACT AND THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT, UM, DUE TO THIS IN 2016, THE CITY HAD TO PAY 435,000 AND MONETARY RELIEF, A $15,000 CIVIL PENALTY, $25,000 TO DISABILITY RIGHTS OF TEXAS.

THEY HAD TO SEE SOME ENFORCEMENT.

THEY IMPLEMENTED, THEY HAD TO IMPLEMENT A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION POLICY.

EVERYBODY WAS REQUIRED TO ATTEND FAIR HOUSING TRAINING AND THEY WERE APPOINTED A FAIR HOUSING COMPLIANCE OFFICER.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, SOME OF THE WAYS WE CAN AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING ARE BY MAINTAINING AND IMPLEMENTING A FAIR HOUSING PLAN, ESTABLISHING A FAIR HOUSING ORDINANCE, REVIEWING LOCAL CODES OF ORDINANCES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE, RECEIVING, INVESTIGATING, AND FORWARDING TO HUD FAIR HOUSING COMPLAINTS.

ENSURING THAT

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HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE AND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON FAIR HOUSING ISSUES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THE CITY AS A RECIPIENT OF FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING, UM, SUCH AS OUR CDBG GRANT AND TEXAS DOT MUST WORK TO AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING GOALS WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.

UM, OUR CDBG CONSOLIDATED PLAN, A FAIR HOUSING IMPEDIMENTS STUDY, A HOUSING STUDY, WHICH WAS JUST COMPLETED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CDAC PERIODIC PRESENTATIONS IN PUBLIC HEARINGS, INFORMATIONAL BROCHURES IN ASSISTANCE AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND WORKSHOPS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, SOME FAIR HOUSING RESOURCES.

WE HAVE THE U S DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT OR HUD, THEIR OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAVE THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, THE NATIONAL FAIR HOUSING ALLIANCE, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION OF MISSOURI CITY AND THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THAT WOULD END MY PRESENTATION.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT SINCE WE DO HAVE THE APPROVED HOUSING STUDY, IF ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN A COPY, WE DO HAVE SOME AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT REPORT.

UM, UH, GENE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THAT REPORT TO EACH COMMISSIONER? I SURE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD TOO.

UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF REVIEW THE PLAN.

UM, OUR REVIEW, YOU KNOW, OUR FAIR HOUSING PLAN A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE YEAR AND THAT WAY THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE STUDY.

YES MA'AM.

OKAY.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. MOORE.

WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ENGINEERING.

UH, IS JEREMY OKAY? YES.

GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONERS ENGINEERING.

ALRIGHTY, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]

OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE NOW, UH, ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WOULD BE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK OF, TO MATTER TO THEM MAY NOT BE ON THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HELLO? YEAH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM.

HI, MY NAME IS JULIE BARON AND I'M REPRESENTING THE MANNERS OF, UM, SILVER RIDGE OFF OF IT'S, UH, UM, COMMUNITY OFF OF WATSON PLANTATION ROAD.

ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ONE OF THE PROJECTS? OKAY.

ONCE WE GET DOWN TO THAT, THEN WE'LL CALL FOR THAT TYPE OF PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JULIE, FOR JOINING US THOUGH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHTY.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT A MATTER THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON, BUT JUST BEFORE WE DO, I DID WANT TO GIVE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS IN ATTENDANCE ON TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR, FOR JOINING US ON TONIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR AGENDA POLICE COMMISSIONERS.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

AT THIS TIME, WE ARE AT ITEM SIX, THE PLATTS.

THIS WILL BE OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

WE DO CONSIDER THESE ITEMS AS ROUTINE ONE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CONCEPT PLAN FOR SIANNA PEER RETRACT TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR SIANNA SECTION 29 B THREE.

CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR SIANNA'S SECTION 45 OR CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAN FOR SHIPMENTS CODE SECTION TWO FIVE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR FINAL PLATFORM ACRES AND ROAD TRACKS, SECTION THREE SIX, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR PARK'S EDGE SECTION 17 SEVEN.

CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAN.

MURPHY VILLAGE COMMERCIAL EIGHT.

CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT CHEMIST AND MEN OF SWAN.

I'LL SORRY IF I CHOPPED IT UP NINE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR SIANNA DEVELOPMENT CENTER.

REPLAT NUMBER ONE.

IS THERE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HANEY.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

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SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AND I AS WELL.

ARE THERE ANY NAYS, ANY ABSTENTIONS, THANK YOU.

THAT MATTER STANDS APPROVED ITEM

[6.B. SIENNA]

SIX B UH, THIS IS UNDER SIANNA WHERE WE WILL RECONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CONCEPT PLAN FOR SIANNA'S THREE DATE.

AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ALL THESE AT ONCE OR WITH JENNIFER.

NO.

UM, AND THINGS.

YEAH, BECAUSE ONLY I DON'T SEE IT AS RELATED TO, UM, THE CONCEPT AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS SEPARATE FROM IT.

OKAY.

THIS REVISED CONCEPT.

UM, IT'S MULTIPLE SHEETS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, BUT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

UH, THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT WAS APPROVED LAST SEPTEMBER AND IT CONTAINED TWO SECTIONS SECTION 42 AND 43.

UM, THAT'S IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF CNSI.

UM, IT ALSO INCLUDED A RIGHT OF WAY FOR A WATER BOULEVARD AROUND ABOUT ONE OF THE ROUNDABOUTS, UH, THIS REVISED, UM, CONCEPT PLAN EXTENDS THE BOUNDARIES AND ADDS IN A SECTION OF SIENNA PARKWAY, UH, JUST NORTH OF THESE TWO SECTIONS WHERE A DEVELOPMENT WILL SOON OCCUR TO WIDEN, UH, TECH.

DID I SAY TEXAS PARKWAY SEEING A PARKWAY, SEEING A PARKWAY, UM, IN THAT AREA.

SO, UH, THERE'S NO FURTHER CHANGES TO THIS CONCEPT EXCEPT TO, UM, INCREASE THE BOUNDARIES AND ADD IN THE SECTION OF SEEING A PARKWAY, UH, TO BE WIDENED, APPROVE THIS CONCEPT PLAN.

I THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. HANEY, CAUSE THAT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY AND SIMPLE.

IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. BARDWELL.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AND I AS WELL.

ARE THERE ANY NOS ABSTENTIONS THING? NONE OF THIS, THIS ONE IS APPROVED AS WELL.

AND CHAIR, DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT THIS? UH, JUST, JUST MAKE IT BRIEF SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE PHONE, JENNIFER, I GET, I GET IT.

OKAY.

IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD.

UM, IT MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A FINAL PLAT.

UM, I WILL JUST NOTE THAT THEY DID, UM, REVISE STREET NAMES.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE PLAQUES DISCUSSED AT THE FEBRUARY, UH, ON THE FEBRUARY AGENDA WITH THE STREET NAMES.

SO THEY DIDN'T REVIVE STREET NAMES AND THOSE REVISED STREET NAMES ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

UM, AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THIS PLAN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS FINAL PLAT.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND, MR. BAILEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SECOND.

THE MOTION WAS PAID BY MR. HANEY.

IT WAS SECONDED BY MR. BAILEY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AND I AS WELL.

ARE THERE ANY NAMES? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER.

SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AS WELL.

JUST REAL BRIEF, JENNIFER.

OKAY.

UH, THIS IS ANOTHER REVISED, UH, FINAL PLAT.

UM, AND THE ONLY REVISION MADE ON THIS IS, UH, A SPLIT OUT ON RESERVE C THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION.

UM, RESERVES C WAS SPLIT TO CREATE TWO, UH, RESERVES AND ALL OF IT'S FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES.

NO OTHER CHANGES WERE MADE TO THIS PLAN.

THAT WILL BE FINE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS FINAL PLAT? THANK YOU, MR. HANEY.

IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, DR.

RASMUS.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AND I AS WELL.

ARE THERE ANY NAMES? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, THIS ONE STANDS APPROVED AS WELL.

JENNIFER, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[7.A. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT]

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TOWARDS THE ITEM SEVEN, THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS.

WE'LL START OFF WITH ITEM A.

THIS IS FOR AN ISSUE PING ON TONIGHT.

WE'LL RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST

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BY TAMIM IN OUR TIME NEED OR AN ISSUE P TO ALLOW FOR THE LOCATION OF A PLACE OF ASSEMBLING NEW CHURCH LOCATION.

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THIS IS THE PROJECT SITE, WHICH YOU PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONES PLEASE.

I'M NOT SURE.

THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY, JENNIFER.

THIS IS THE PROJECT SITE LOCATIONS SHOWN ON THE MAP ON THE SCREEN OUTLINED IN BLACK.

UM, AND JUST TO THE EAST OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE MANNERS OF SILVER RIDGE ON, UH, WEST PLANTATION ROAD.

AND THIS IS A BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ON A PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.

UH, THE PROPOSED USE FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, UM, FOR THE LOCATION OF A, UM, CHURCH, UM, IN, OR A RELIGIOUS PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, UM, ON THIS PROPERTY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

YES.

AND SO THERE IS A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

UM, WE TRIED TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBLE ON THE SCREEN, UM, BUT IT SHOWS, UH, THE WEST PLANTATION, UH, RIGHT AWAY WOULD BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS IMAGE, UM, ON THE SCREEN WITH A DRIVEWAY PROVIDING ACCESS FROM WATTS PLANTATION, UM, AND THE SITUATION OF THE PRIMARY WORSHIP BUILDING, UH, TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY AND IT WOULD BE, UH, TO THE EAST OR TO THE RIGHT OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY.

UH, THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.

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SO THE SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, UM, IS, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO APPROVE, UM, THE SUP TO ALLOW FOR A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, UH, THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE UNDERLINING SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

UM, IT WOULD JUST ADD THE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY AS AN ADDITIONAL USE.

UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IS WE'LL APPLY ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, UH, DISTRICT ZONING, UM, EXCEPT A SPECIFIED IN THE REPORT.

UM, THOSE STANDARDS INCLUDE HEIGHTENED AREA STANDARDS FOR ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION, UM, INCREASING THE SETBACK OF THE FRONT YARD FROM WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE REPORT IS A FRONT YARD OF NOT LESS THAN 35 FEET, MEANING THE PRIMARY BUILDING NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, COULD BE, COULD NOT BE CLOSER TO THE WIFE'S PLANTATION FRONTAGE THAN 35 FEET.

UM, AND THEN, UH, APPLYING SIDE YARD SETBACKS OF NOT LESS THAN 15 FEET, THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE ADOPTING THE LC TO, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING FROCKS AND EXTERIOR LIGHTING, UM, THAT PROVIDES, UH, SOME STANDARDS FOR HOW MUCH LIGHTING FROM THIS FACILITY TO COULD EXTEND OFFSITE ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UH, WHICH IS MINIMAL TO NONE.

UM, SO IT WOULD PROVIDE THOSE STANDARDS, UM, FOR, UH, THOSE REGULATIONS, UM, APPLYING THE NON-RESIDENTIAL, UH, TRASH REGULATION STANDARDS.

THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS THAT REQUIRE IF A, UM, DUMPSTER, UM, CONTAINER IS LOCATED ON THE SITE, THEN IT'S REQUIRED TO BE SCREENED, UH, WITH A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE MASONRY, UH, WITH, UM, METAL GATES, UM, APPLY ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, UM, ENFORCE THEM, UH, IN THE CITY APPLY, UH, THE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.

UM, THERE IS A CONSIDERATION IN THE REPORT ON PARKING AS SHOWN.

UH, SO IT WOULD BE THE APPLICATION OF THE CITY STANDARD PARKING RATIOS, BUT THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, RELOCATE THE PARKING AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, AS OPPOSED TO THE FRONT, UM, AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL CUING SPACE, UH, FOR CARS OFF OF A WATTS PLANTATION.

UH, THE REPORT ALSO HAS A RECOMMENDATION TO PROHIBIT, UM, ANY OUTSIDE PLACEMENT STORAGE, SALES OR SERVICES, UM, EXCEPT AS WHAT MIGHT BE RELATED FOR A SPECIAL EVENT.

UM, AND SO THAT IS THE SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE REPORT.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS ON THE CALL, UH, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO HEAR FROM HIM, UM, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, IF THE COMMISSION HAS SOME AS WELL.

OKAY, WONDERFUL, JENNIFER.

UM, UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I'M PRETTY SURE MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE SOME AS WELL.

COULD WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? UH, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS,

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OH, OKAY.

WE CAN START HERE, JENNIFER.

I NOTICED THAT YOU HAD, YOU GUYS ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BUILDING SET BAND SETBACK BE 35 FEET, YOU KNOW, AT MINIMUM.

UM, AND EVEN MAYBE COMMISSIONER HANEY COULD POSSIBLY HELP WITH THIS IN TERMS OF WHERE WOULD THAT POSSIBLY LAND OFF OF WATTS PLANTATION THAT SETBACK WOULD STILL BE FAIRLY CLOSE TO LAST PLANTATION, 35 FEET.

ISN'T A LOT.

YEAH.

AND SO I KNOW IF YOU, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, ZOOMED IN, SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE THIS PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE, IT'S KIND OF SPLIT INTO TWO PROPERTIES.

SO WHERE THAT HOUSE SITS TODAY, UM, IS PROBABLY THE EDGE OF IT IS PROBABLY ABOUT 35 FEET IF, IF LESS, UM, FROM THAT STREET FRONT END.

UM, SO WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THE SITE PLAN, THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING ON THE SITE PLAN EXCEEDS THAT 35 FEET.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO JENNIFER, YOU MEAN IT'S, IT'S BEYOND THE 35 FEET OR IT'S WITHIN THE THIRD.

WHAT THEY'RE SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS BEYOND THE 35 FEET.

OKAY.

BUT IF THEY MOVE THE PARKING, THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT, CORRECT? THAT WAY.

YES.

OKAY.

SO MOVING THE PARKING, UM, OBVIOUSLY IF WE PUT IT TO THE REAR, I'M WONDERING IF THAT WOULD, UM, MAKE THEM EVEN HAVE TO PUSH WELL, DID YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OF YOUR 35 FEET EVEN WITH ADDING THEM TO THE PARKING IN THE REAR? OOPS.

DID WE LOSE JENNIFER? NOPE.

I'M HERE.

I APOLOGIZE.

SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.

UM, AND SPEAKING, IN TERMS OF ABOUT THE 35 FEET, WOULD THAT IN AND US PLAY ASKING THEM THE PLACE TO PARK INTO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, DID YOUR RECOMMENDATION TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT 35 FEET? YES.

YES.

SO YEAH, IF YOU, IF YOU MOVE THE PARKING TO THE REAR, IT WOULD STILL EXCEED THE 35 FOOT MINIMUM.

SO THINK THE 35 FEET IS GOING TO BE A MINIMUM SETBACK.

AND SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PROBABLY MORE THAN TRIPLE THAT DISTANCE FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE.

OKAY.

SO IN EFFECT THE, THE MOVING THE PR THE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING WOULD MOVE THAT BUILDING FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO MOVE IT CLOSER.

UM, SO THE, THE BUILDING, AS YOU SEE SITE PLAN, UM, THE PART OF THE ORIENTATION, RIGHT? YEAH.

CAUSE THINK OF IT AS, SO THE BACKSIDE OF THAT BUILDING IS TOWARDS THE REAR OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE FORT MEN PARKWAY.

AND THEN THE, THE DRIVEWAY TOWARDS THE BOTTOM IS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

SO HOW LONG IS THE DRIVEWAY JENNIFER? WELL, I GUESS, YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S AN ESTIMATE.

UM, BECAUSE IT'S A PRELIMINARY AND THEY DON'T HAVE IT TO SCALE.

YEAH.

BUT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THE DRIVEWAY IS PROBABLY ABOUT 60, 70 FEET IN LENGTH.

OKAY.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JENNIFER BEFORE WE GET THE APPLICANT AND THEN WE'LL, UH, GET READY? WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE TO A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL, BUT, UH, LET'S, LET'S, UH, HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.

HEY, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I'M HERE.

HI.

HOW ARE YOU, SIR? WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS TAMMY MARTONE.

OKAY.

VERY NICE TO MEET YOU, SIR.

YOU WANT TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF YOUR PROJECT? SURE.

UM, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS, UM, ABOUT FIVE ACRES OF PROPERTY ON WATCH PLANTATION.

UM, THE PROPERTY, UH, HAS AN INTENTION TO, TO, UH, TO MAKE A MOSQUE OR A CHURCH.

UM, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS A VERY PRELIMINARY DESIGN, UH, OF A, OF A POSSIBLE, UM, CONCEPT, UM, WITH THE BUILDING IN THE BACK AND THEN THE PARKING AND THE, UH, THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH CONNECTS TO THE, UM, TO WATCH PLANTATION.

UM, I KNOW I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO YOU GUYS AND I THINK THE, THE, THE PROPERTY, UM, DID YOU WANT ME TO CALL IT THE LENDER OR THE PROPERTY IS I THINK ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET FROM WASH PLANTATION

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ALL THE WAY BACK TO FORT BEND TOLLWAY.

RIGHT.

AND, UM, AND IF WE WERE TO MAKE ANYTHING, UM, REGARDING BUILDING SETBACK, I THINK WE WOULD BE MAYBE IN THE SIX TO 700 FEET FROM WATCH PLANTATION HAS A BUILDING SETBACK.

WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE WITHIN THE A HUNDRED OR 200 FEET.

UM, SO, UM, OKAY.

SO THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S INTERESTING.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE BUILDING SET BACK, INCLUDING THE DRIVEWAY WOULD PUT YOU ABOUT 600 FEET INTO THE PROJECT OFF OF WATTS PLANTATION.

WELL, IF YOU, YES, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT IT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW WHERE THE BUILDING IS LOCATED ON THIS DESIGN, RIGHT.

VERSUS WHERE WASP PLANTATION IS, THAT'S PROBABLY AROUND SIX TO 700 FEET FROM WASH PLANTATION.

THAT'S JUST THE LENS OF THE PROPERTY IS IT'S REALLY DEEP ON WHAT'S PLANTATION.

LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE IN READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT SOME THINGS, UM, THIS PARTICULAR MOSQUE OR CHURCH THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN, HOW MUCH ACTIVITY DO THEY HAVE? UM, IS THIS A ONCE A WEEK ASSEMBLY, A TWICE A WEEK? HOW DOES IT THE, THE MAIN ASSEMBLY HAPPENS ON A FRIDAY, UM, AND IT'S USUALLY AT NOON OR ONE O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY.

UM, AND WHEN IT STARTS OFF, IT STARTS OFF VERY SMALL, MAYBE LIKE 20, 30 COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEY SHOW UP AND THEN THEIR FAMILIES GROW.

AND THEN IT JUST, JUST LIKE THE LITTLE SUNDAY, SUNDAY CHURCH SERVICE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHOW UP TO PRAY.

UH, BUT THE MAIN, THE MAIN DAY OR ASSEMBLY IS A FRIDAY AND IT'S AROUND NOON OR ONE O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY.

THAT'S THE MAIN DAY OF ASSEMBLY.

AND HOW MANY, UH, HOW MANY PARISHIONERS DO YOU THINK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, ATTENDING? I KNOW YOU SAID YOU START OFF ABOUT, ABOUT 20 TO 30.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

IT DOES.

THAT'S JUST HOW IT USUALLY STARTS, UH, YOU KNOW, 20 TO 30 PEOPLE.

AND THEN IT'S JUST BECAUSE THIS IS IN A, UM, IT'S NOT IN LIKE A BUSINESS DISTRICT, IT'S MORE OF LIKE A RESIDENTIAL, UM, OKAY.

LIKE IT'S IN A SUBURB, RIGHT.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ATTEND THE MOSS FOR PRAYERS ON A FRIDAY ARE USUALLY AT WORK, SO THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.

SO ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO ATTEND ARE LIKE THE ONES WHO ARE EITHER WORKING FROM HOME OR, OR THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OFF FROM WORK OR WHATEVER.

BUT, UM, BUT BASED ON THE SURVEY THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE AREA 20 TO 30 PEOPLE STARTING OFF IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING.

OKAY.

IS THIS AN EXISTING, UH, ASSEMBLY CHURCH ASSEMBLY OR IS THIS GOING TO BE A NEW ONE? THIS WOULD BE A BRAND NEW ONE.

AND THIS IS A, UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, PLACE OF ASSEMBLY IN STAFFORD AS WELL.

SO THIS IS LIKE THE, THE EXTENSION FOR STAFFORD, FOR HIM TO SIENNA AND RIVERSTONE AND MISSOURI CITY AREA PRETTY MUCH.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, OF THIS GENTLEMAN? THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVERJET.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

AS FAR AS YOUR SERVICES CONCERN, WILL THEY BE ANY SPECIAL EVENTS OUTSIDE THE FRIDAY AND THEY'LL, THERE'LL BE ANY MUSICAL OR SOUND THAT MAY BE HEARD WHILE SERVICES IS BEING HELD? UH, NO, MA'AM, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO MUSIC.

AND THERE IS NO, UM, NO SOUND THAT CAN BE HEARD.

UM, ALL THE PRAYERS ARE PRETTY MUCH DONE WITHIN THE BUILDING AND, UM, OUR PRAYERS DON'T INVOLVE ANY MUSIC OR ANY SORT OF MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS.

UM, SO IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, WE REQUIRED SPEAKERS ARE PRETTY MUCH INSIDE THE BUILDING.

UM, THEY'RE NOT, UH, NO, NO EXTERNAL SPEAKERS OR NO, NO, ANY, NO, NOTHING OF THAT NATURE.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S NOT LIKE A NEW BEFORE YOUR SERVICE, THERE'S NOT ANY CHIMES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE TO? NO, I'M SORRY.

WE DON'T NEED TO GO.

YES, SIR.

YES.

MA'AM MS. RASMUS.

LUCKILY THE, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT.

WHAT IS THE CAPACITY OF THE BUILDING AS IT STANDS NOW?

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IS THIS A QUESTION FOR ME? YES, SIR.

AT THIS POINT, THERE IS NO BUILDING THERE.

I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S NO BUILDING, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, AS YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR THE BUILDING, WHAT, WHAT, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL IT ACCOMMODATE? UH, WE ARE PROPOSING A, UH, 9,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND AN AVERAGE PERSON TAKES ABOUT 30 TO 40 SQUARE FEET.

SO IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, PROBABLY LIKE 300 PEOPLE, 400 PEOPLE, I GUESS, AND THIS IS ALL TO HAPPEN PRIMARILY ON A FRIDAY AND EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE OTHER DAYS ADDED.

UM, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, SIR, IS THE, THE LAYOUT OF WATTS PLANTATION.

THAT'S A VERY NARROW AREA.

UM, AND, AND I GUESS WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME TYPE OF CLARIFICATION ON THE TYPES OF CARS ON HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING TO BE COMING TOWARDS THIS WAY.

WE'VE KIND OF GOT THE FRIDAY AT NOON.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

UM, AND JUST TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I BANK AT A PARTICULAR LOCATION DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM A MOSQUE, IF YOU WILL.

AND IF I TRY TO GO OVER TO THAT BANK AND TRUST ME, THAT'S FOUR LANES OF WHERE WE CAN GO.

I CAN BARELY GET IN THERE BIG BECAUSE IT'S SO CROWDED AND IT'S SO BUSY.

SO WE'RE JUST FROM MY STANDARD POINT OF VIEW.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

HAD YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT PROCESS IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE TRAFFIC FLOWS WOULD, WOULD BE ON WATTS PLANTATION ROAD, GIVEN THAT IT'S JUST TWO WAYS? UH, WE, WE, I MEAN, UM, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR ME, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

YEAH, WE, WE'VE DONE.

UM, UM, AND, AND WE'VE DONE A STUDY OF THE AREA.

UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A, UM, THAT WASC PLANTATION IS CURRENTLY NOT A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TWO, TWO LANE ROAD OR A FOUR LANE ROAD, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THE, THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS USUALLY HAPPEN IN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN, CAN, UM, CAN COME AND PRAY.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EXPECT A BANK OR WE DON'T EXPECT A SHOPPING CENTER TO COME NEXT DOOR TO US.

UM, WE DO EXPECT, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO, TO RESIDE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND PRAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO, AND, AND I, I THINK BEFORE THIS LAND WAS, WAS, UH, WAS, WAS, UH, DONATED FOR THIS PURPOSE.

I THINK THERE WAS A STUDY DONE ON A, A PIECE OF LAND TO THE EAST OF THIS.

UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT TO THE EAST OF IT, WHICH ALSO HAD THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR, AND FOR ANOTHER CHURCH ON THE SAME ROAD, UM, I THINK IT'S ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE, UM, UH, LOTS DOWN.

I MAY BE WRONG, BUT SO OF COURSE WE, WE, WE ARE VERY RESPECTFUL PEOPLE AND WE CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND MOST OF OUR MEMBERS WHO WOULD ATTEND LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITIES AROUND THIS PLACE, UH, MOST OF THEM LIVE IN SIENNA.

MOST OF THEM, SOME OF THEM LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AT THE MANNERS.

UM, AND SOME OF THEM MAY EVEN LIVE, UM, FURTHER DOWN.

SO WE HAVE KEPT THAT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR OUR, UM, FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UH, OF COURSE WE WOULD RESPECT THE TRAFFIC.

WE WOULD RESPECT THE HOURS.

AND, UM, AND OF COURSE WE WOULD, WE WOULD COOPERATE WITH ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.

SO, SO TO CLARIFY, THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT, THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER DAYS, BUT, BUT YOU, I BELIEVE YOU STATED THAT THIS WOULD BE A FRIDAY NOON TIME THING ONLY, IS THAT CORRECT? OH, I WAS, I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION WHEN I THINK I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION WHEN THE MOST THING, I THINK IT'S FRIDAY IS WHEN THE MAIN DAY OF PRAYER IS WHEN THERE COULD BE, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWING UP, BUT THE, THE MOSQUE OR THE PRAYER HALL IS OPEN THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

AND MAYBE FIVE PEOPLE, MAYBE FOUR PEOPLE, OR MAYBE 10 PEOPLE SHOW UP, UH, FOR LIKE 10 MINUTES, THEY SAY THEIR PRAYERS AND THEY LEAVE.

IT'S NOT A, UM, A TRAFFIC, UH, CONCERN LIKE, BUT FRIDAY IS THE MAIN DAY OF PRAYER.

UH, FRIDAY AT NOON AROUND NOON OR ONE O'CLOCK IS WHEN, UM, WHEN PEOPLE DO SHOW UP TO PRAY, EVEN THOUGH, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT GO ALL ALL DAYS, BUT SOME OF THEM DO SHOW UP ON FRIDAY TO PRAY.

AND, AND DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THE STAFF OR LOCATION? YES.

UH, STANFORD LOCATION IS, IS, IS, UM, IT JUST WENT THROUGH A MAJOR

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RENOVATION AS WELL.

UM, AND AFTER 20 YEARS OF, UM, UH, STAFFORD, UH, WE ARE NOW AT A, UH, A, UH, CAPACITY OF 700 PEOPLE AT STAFFORD, BUT THAT'S 20 YEARS IN THE MAKING, RIGHT? SO ON A FRIDAY PRE COVID, MAYBE LIKE 400 PEOPLE SHOWED UP PRE COVID, UH, AND THEN COVID CAME.

SO MAYBE LIKE 50 PEOPLE.

AND, UM, AND NOW, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE MONTH OF RAMADAN, UH, SO WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, THAT MOSQUE IS OPERATIONAL IN THE NIGHT.

NOW, SINCE COVID RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN LIFTED, SO ABOUT 200 PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP TO PRAY, UH, IN THE NIGHT AND THEN THEY LEAVE, UM, THE SAME WAY THEY CAME.

AND, AND, AND IF I'M CORRECT, THE, THE ACCESS FREAK THERE IS A, IS A STANDARD TWO LANE ROAD.

IS THAT CORRECT? IS IT ON BRAND A BRAND NAME? YES.

AND I THINK THE BRAND LANE EXPANSION WAS JUST DONE, UM, LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE.

OKAY.

IS IT A FOUR LANE NOW? I THINK, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T, I THINK THEY ADDED, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? LIKE A TURNING, TURNING LANE IN THE MIDDLE? YEAH, THEY ADDED A TURNING LANE AND I, AND I AM, UH, I'VE BEEN GOING TO THAT STAFFORD, UM, THAT STAFFORD MOSQUE FOR ABOUT 20, 21 YEARS.

AND, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS, THIS WATCH PLANTATION AS WELL.

WHY I'M INVOLVED IS BECAUSE MY DAD, UH, MY FATHER WALKED THIS, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND HE, UM, HE DONATED THIS LAND, UH, TO THE ORGANIZATION ON THE 22ND OF NOVEMBER.

CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH.

I WAS TELLING YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS LAND.

UM, THIS LAND WAS, WAS BOUGHT BY MY DAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND A DAY BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY UNEXPECTEDLY, HE HAD GONE OUT AND DONATED THIS LAND TO THE, TO OUR PARENT ORGANIZATION FOR, FOR THIS PURPOSE.

UM, THIS IS THE REASON WHY I'M INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE, UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE IF I CAN, IF I CAN GET THIS, GET THIS PART TAKEN CARE OF, THEN THE COMMUNITY IN SIENNA, THE COMMUNITY IN RIVERSTONE AND MISSOURI CITY WILL, WILL GRADUALLY BUILD UP ON THIS, ON THIS FACILITY.

AND ONCE THEY HAVE ALL THE LEGAL PERMITS AND PERMISSIONS, THIS IS WHY I'M INVOLVED IN THIS LANE.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

COMMISSIONER.

SO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF, UH, OF THIS GENTLEMAN.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW INTO THE, UH, COMMENTS AND I HAVE QUITE A FEW THAT HAVE, UH, REQUESTED TO SPEAK I'LL FIRST START WITH THE PROTEST FORMS THAT, UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED ON HAND.

UM, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF HOUSE RULES IN REGARDS TO WHEN YOU SPEAK IN REGARDS TO A PROTEST FROM ONCE YOUR NAME IS CALLED, UH, IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.

WE DO ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND WE ALSO ASK THAT AS THE SPEAKERS MOVE FORWARD, UM, WE WANT TO HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATIVE.

IF YOU FIND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO START REPEATING SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY SAID, DO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD IT, AND WE DO APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

FIRST UP WILL BE MR. RICHARD LEWIS IS MR. LEWIS HERE.

OKAY.

AFTER I GO THROUGH ALL OF THE FORMS, ALL THOSE THAT HAVE THEIR HANDS UP TO SPEAK, I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AS WELL.

SO MR. RICHARD LEWIS DID TURN IN A FORM IN REGARDS TO, UM, IN PROTEST OF THE PROJECT, UM, CITING THAT THERE, THAT THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC ISSUES MOVING ON NOW DOWN THE LIST.

MS. JULIE FARHAN.

HI, THAT'S ME.

HI THERE.

MA'AM YOU'RE WELCOME.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND, UM, ESPECIALLY SEEING THE GRAPHIC THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN.

UM, I REPRESENT THE MANNERS AT SILVER RIDGE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS, UM, THIS PROPOSAL FOR THIS MOSQUE AND, UM, UH, MY CONCERN THAT I HAVE, I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS ABOUT PRIMARILY, UM, THAT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S PARKING FOR.

UM, A LOT OF CARS I'VE HEARD UP TO 200.

UM, AND SO, UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING.

THAT IS A TWO LANE ROAD THAT COMES RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS PROPERTY.

UM, SO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A POTENTIALLY A NEGATIVE IMPACT.

AND I, I HEARD THEM MENTION,

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UM, THAT, UH, THERE'LL BE OVERFLOW PARKING ON WATTS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT IS ALSO GONNA COME A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND NOISE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.

AND I DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, FACEBOOK PAGE THAT'S RELATED TO THIS, UM, THIS MOSQUE.

AND, UM, THEY DO HAVE EVENTS POSTED ON DAYS OTHER THAN FRIDAY, THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER ONE THAT HE MENTIONED IN STAFFORD.

UM, BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, OTHER EVENTS, THE ONE THAT I SAW, UH, WAS ON A MONDAY LIKE 9:30 PM.

UM, AND SO MY CONCERN IS THAT AS THEY BUILD UP THEIR MEMBERSHIP, UM, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING IS MORE ACTIVITY AND MORE EVENTS, INCREASED TRAFFIC.

AND, UM, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE THEM.

WE WILL MOVE NOW A WEEK OR TWO TO SPOKEN TO THIS PERSON JUST ONE MINUTE, BUT A LOT OF SHEETS.

UM, IS THERE A MICHELLE LAYERED WILLIAMS? YES.

I'M PRESENT.

YES.

MA'AM.

HI, WELCOME TO THE MEETING.

WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? YES.

MY NAME IS MICHELLE DERRICK WILLIAMS. I TOO AM A RESIDENT OF THE MANNERS OF SILVER RIDGE, AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY OF THE MANNERS OF SEPARATE RIDGE.

SO THERE ARE SEVERAL CONCERNS THAT THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, UM, IN REGARDS TO THIS PERMISSION OR REQUEST TO OUR USAGE PERMIT, AS WELL AS THE REZONING OF THIS AREA.

AND THE CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT COULD TAKE PLACE THROUGHOUT WATTS.

AND THE MANNERS OF SILVER RIDGE COMMUNITY IS A VERY FAMILY FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.

AND WE TRY TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT DRIVES THROUGH AND AROUND OUR COMMUNITY.

AND BY HAVING OVER TWO OR 300, 400 PEOPLE POTENTIALLY AT A MOSQUE OVER TIME, UM, BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A BUILDING THAT HOLDS NINE THAT'S 9,000 SQUARE FEET CAN SUSTAIN ITSELF WITH 20 OR 30 PEOPLE COMING EVERY FRIDAY.

SO THERE'LL BE DEFINITELY AN INCREASE MEMBERSHIP UPWARDS OF FOUR TO 500 PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE CONVENING ON THIS LOCATION.

THERE ARE OTHER COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS KROGER'S GOING THAT WAY TO THE EAST OR WEST.

AND THE OTHER AREAS WHERE BY HAVING A CHURCH IN ASSEMBLY WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN A TRULY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

IT WOULD ALSO IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VALUE OUR HOMES, BUT IMPACT THE TRAFFIC AND TRACK ASPHALT CAN RESULT IN PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH AND AROUND AS YOU HAVE FOUR OR 500 PEOPLE WAITING IN LINE A LINE, NOT PASSED THROUGH THE MANNERS.

IT CONCERNS US WITH THE KIDS AND MAYBE HOPEFULLY PLAYING IN THE CUL-DE-SACS AND ON THE STREETS.

AND SO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT PROTEST AMONGST THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO THE POINT WHERE THE MEMBERS ARE WILLING TO SIGN A PETITION AND, OR WHATEVER IS REQUIRED TO REALLY HEAR THE PROTEST OF EVERY HOMEOWNER IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO BANKS SHARE THAT, UM, THOSE COMMENTS WITH YOU NOW, AND IF THERE'S A FURTHER INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT ON BEHALF OF THE MANNERS OF SEPARATES.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

WE'LL MOVE NOW TO DINA MURPHY.

LAST CALL FOR DANA MURPHY.

MS. MURPHY IS ALSO PROTESTING AGAINST THE PROJECT.

UH, SHE CITES THAT IT WILL HURT THE PROPERTY VALUES, CREATE MORE CONGESTION TRAFFIC.

UM, SHE SITES NATURAL WILDLIFE.

OKAY.

BASICALLY WHAT SHE HAS SAID.

OKAY.

AT THIS TIME, I DO SEE DEBRA EWING.

MA'AM IS YOUR HAND UP TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT? HI, YES.

UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT IF THIS PROPERTY, UM, HOLDS ANY OTHER EVENTS THAT PERHAPS MAYBE WEDDINGS OR, UM, ANY OTHER TYPE OF EVENTS OTHER THAN WORSHIP.

WELL, AS, AS THE GENTLEMAN EXPLAINED EARLIER THAT THERE WILL BE PROBABLE ADDITIONAL EVENTS ON DIFFERENT DAYS.

UM, LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT KIND OF EVENTS MIGHT THOSE BE? I'M PRETTY SURE HERE.

I'M SORRY.

I'M PRETTY SURE MOSQUE IS ONLY FOR PRAYERS.

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WELL, PERHAPS HE WOULD BE BEST SUITED TO GIVE US AN ANSWER.

KEVIN, MR. TARINI.

UH, YES.

I'M HERE.

I'M HERE.

YES, SIR.

WELL, WELL, THE MOSQUE OF WHOLE THINGS SUCH AS WEDDINGS, NO, A MOSQUE IS NOT A PARTY HALL.

UM, A MOSQUE IS A CHURCH.

IT'S LIKE A CHURCH.

SO IF SOMEONE GOES TO A CHURCH TO GET MARRIED, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY GO THERE, THEY HAVE A PASTOR OR THEY HAVE ANY MOM, THEY CONDUCT THE CEREMONY AND THEN THEY GO PARTY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO A MOSQUE IS NOT A PARTY HALL.

UM, HOWEVER IT IS THE HOUSE OF GOD, LIKE IN ANY RELIGION.

SO IF SOMEONE CHOOSES TO GET MARRIED IN, UM, IN A, UH, IN A MOSQUE, THEY COME THERE, THE BRIDE COMES THERE, THE GROOM COMES THERE AND THEN THEY, THEY HOLD A CEREMONY AND THEN THEY GO OFF ON THEIR OWN WAY.

HOWEVER, RIGHT NEXT TO US, THERE IS A VERY BIG PARTY HALL WHO HAS PARTIES EVERY WEEK.

UM, SO MAYBE THEY CAN PARTY THERE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE, SIR.

I DO KNOW WHAT THE DEFINITION OF A MOSQUE IS.

UM, UM, MR. HANEY, AND, UH, SIR, MIKE, MY QUESTION SIMPLY WAS, WILL THERE BE OTHER EVENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A WEDDING? YOUR ANSWER IS YES, CORRECT? YES.

HIS, HIS ANSWER WAS, YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ARE THERE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION IN REGARDS TO ANYTHING ELSE IN REGARDS TO THIS MATTER? YES, THIS IS ME, KEVIN TRAINEE.

I FILED THE PETITION AS WELL TO, TO SPEAK.

OH, YES, SIR.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

AFTER REVIEWING THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES AND THE CITY REVIEW, THERE'S SOME FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES ISSUES WITH THE ANALYSIS.

FIRST, THE ANALYSIS IS BASED ON, BASED ON THE APPLICATION, THE APPLICATION STATES THERE'S 200 PLUS CARS WILL BE PRESENT FOR FRIDAY SERVICES.

THIS NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES SHOWN IS 91.

I COUNTED EVERY ONE OF THEM.

THEREFORE THERE'S INADEQUATE PARKING.

THERE'S NO AVAILABLE STREET.

PARKING ON WATTS.

THEREFORE PEOPLE WILL MOST LIKELY NEED TO BE PARKING IN THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS.

I DO NOT FIND THIS ACCEPTABLE.

NUMBER TWO, THE CITY'S ANALYSIS WAS BASED ON 0.2 CARS PER PERSON.

ALTHOUGH THIS MAY BE THE CITY STANDARD.

IT IS WELL BELOW THE AVERAGE FOR MOST PEOPLE TRAVELING IN THE CARS, THE SU ASSUMES THAT A CARS ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPIED, MORE LIKELY NUMBER, BE CLOSER TO 0.33.

THAT MAKES THE NUMBER OF CARS 333 PLUS RIGHT? NUMBER THREE, THE EFFECT ON TRAFFIC WAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE CITY'S ANALYSIS.

LOTS OF PLANTATION DRIVE IS CURRENTLY BOUNDED BY A TRAFFIC LIKE SEEING A PARKWAY AND A STOP SIGN AT NIGHT ROAD.

CURRENTLY WATTS PLANTATION DRIVE CAN ALLOW FOR SIX CARS PER CYCLE TO EXIT ONTO SIENNA PARKWAY IN A TWO MINUTE CYCLE.

THAT MEANS THREE CARS PER MINUTE NIGHT ROAD IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING AN EXTENSION PROJECT MEANS INCREASED TRAFFIC AND POTENTIALLY A LIGHT THERE TOO.

SO I ASSUME THREE CARS PER MINUTE, EXIT THERE.

TWO SUM TOTAL, THAT MEANS A 200 PLUS CARS WILL TAKE 33 MINUTES TO CLEAR OUT THE TRAFFIC JAM WHEN THE PRAYER SERVICE GETS OUT, ASSUMING NOBODY ELSE IS TRAVELING ON THE ROAD, WHICH DURING THIS TIME OF DAY, THERE'S A LOT AS MENTIONED.

IT'S MORE LIKELY WITH THE 300 PLUS CARS, WE'RE TALKING 56 MINUTES TO CLEAR THE TRAFFIC JAM OUT WITH NO ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

NUMBER FOUR, THE BACKUP OCCURS DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE AFTER-SCHOOL BUSING AND CHILD PICKUP EXACERBATING THE PROBLEM.

NUMBER FIVE, THE CITY'S ANALYSIS OCCURRED.

IT SAYS THE TRAFFIC ONLY OCCURS ON FRIDAYS.

AS WE JUST DISCUSSED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WEDDINGS CEREMONIES, EVENING PRAYERS FOR RAMADAN AND OTHER SUCH EVENTS THAT WOULD OCCUR HITTING US WITH THE TRAFFIC AGAIN.

AND NUMBER SIX, THE CITY'S ANALYSIS STATES THAT THE AREA COULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUOTE, SMALLER SCALE OFFICE USES FIRST, THIS AREA ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL, THE ANALYSIS EVEN STATES THE CHARACTER IS DESIGNED FOR OR DESIGNATE AND QUOTE DESIGNATED FOR LARGE LOT DEVELOPMENT.

TYPICALLY ON THE FRINGES OF THE CITY, IF THE ANALYSIS IGNORES ITS OWN STATEMENT, SECOND, IT ASSUMES THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE A SMALL-SCALE OFFICE USERS, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE HERE HAS BEEN QUERIED ON THAT THIRD.

THE ANALYSIS STATES THAT A CHURCH IS A SMALL OFFICE USE 200 PLUS CARS OR MORE LIKELY 300 PLUS CARS IS NOT SMALL SCALE OFFICE USED BASED ON ALL THE ABOVE REASONING.

THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE PROPERTY VALUES.

THERE SHOULD BE NO VALID REASONS STATED TO CHANGE THE ZONING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS REQUESTED.

THERE'S BEEN NO POSITIVE

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REASONING FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH US, SIR.

UH, JIMA, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TOO MUCH IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HOWEVER, WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE ADDITIONAL, UM, PROTESTS FOR THIS CASE.

OKAY.

A CLAUDIA MINER, A CRYSTAL DAVIS, AND A MARY MELVILLE.

WE HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO VERY, VERY MUCH.

AND ALL OF THOSE ORIENT, UH, THEY ARE AGAINST, CORRECT? YES MA'AM AGAIN.

OKAY.

ALRIGHTY.

IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WHO MADE THE MOTION PLEASE? RASMUS MAKE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER RASMUS MADE THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A COMMISSIONER OVERTON MAY THE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CLOSE, THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, COULD, UH, EXCUSE ME, WOULD YOU GUYS SLIDE, MOVE THE SLIDE UP TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, PLEASE? OKAY.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

UM, COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME, WE NEED TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.

YOU HAVE, UH, JENNIFER'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

YOU HAVE ALSO HEARD ALL OF THE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THIS AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.

I'LL JUST ASK FOR A MOTION AT FACE VALUE.

NO ONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

HOW ABOUT THIS? IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS, AS PRINTED? ALL RIGHT.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET A MOTION FOR THAT ONE EITHER.

ALL RIGHT.

I WILL MAKE SOME MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF'S REPORT AND PASS IT TO COUNSEL.

AT WHICH POINT THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO APPROACH COUNCIL TOO, OR SUR OPINIONS.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

WE DO NOT HAVE A SECOND.

THAT MOTION WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD.

IS THERE A MOTION TO AMEND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THIS POSSIBLE PROJECT TO MOVE IT FORWARD? AND IF THERE IS SUCH A MOTION, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE WITH THOSE CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE WITHIN YOUR MOTION? WE DON'T HAVE EMOTION FOR THAT EITHER.

IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE FORWARD THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE? I MEAN, I'M SORRY WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION GUYS.

WE NEED THEM.

WE NEED A MOTION HERE.

WELL, YOU HAVE A MOTION SECOND.

IT, UH, YEAH, I GUESS I COULD.

UM, AND THEN YOU CALL THE VOTE AND WE GO FROM THERE.

I MIGHT NOT WANT TO SECOND IT, GIVE ME A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

THE MOTION.

I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. HANEY.

I'M SORRY.

I'M ALLIE.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, NOT THE ORIGINAL EMOTION, BUT TO MR. BRIGHT WILL'S MOTION, WHERE HE IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE FORWARDED ON TO CITY COUNCIL USING ALL OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED.

WE DO HAVE A SECOND BY MR. O'MALLEY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

I THINK I HAVE THREE EYES.

WOULD THAT BE FROM SILVER? YES.

O'MALLEY YES.

AND BRIGHTWELL.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE THREE EYES, ALL THOSE, NOT IN FAVOR, MISSION OVER TO NOT STAY THERE.

I SAW NEW BROWN MARSHALL.

NOT IN FAVOR,

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NOT IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU.

UM, OKAY, SO WE ARE AT A THREE, THREE.

ARE THERE ANY, UM, ANYONE ABSTAINING, MS. LUCAS? ARE YOU VOTING? OKAY.

I DON'T SEE MS. LUCAS.

I'M SORRY.

AND I'M SORRY.

I JUST NEEDED TO ALSO INFORM THAT COMMISSIONER BAILEY IS NOT ON THE LINE DUE TO AN OUTAGE.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE LOST BAILEY AND WE'VE LOST LUCAS AND, UH, HANY HAD TO, HAD TO LEAVE AS WELL.

OKAY.

SO WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE AT A THREE, THREE, UM, ILLEGAL IT'S SOMEONE FROM LEGAL ON, ON THE CALL BY CHANCE.

YES MA'AM.

HELLO, MR. QUINTEL DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE FOR HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD? CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A THREE, THREE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THREE, THREE? I KNEW THAT, BUT I WAS HOPING I WAS HOPING YOU WERE IN A GOOD MOOD, GOOD MOOD, BUT DO WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM AT THIS POINT? WE DO STILL HAVE A QUORUM.

WE HAVE SIX.

OKAY, SURE.

YES.

UM, GLORIA COMMISSIONER LUCAS IS ON THE LINE.

UM, SHE'S MUTED.

AND SO SHE'S TRYING TO VOTE.

OKAY.

CAN SOMEBODY UNMUTE MS. LUCAS, PLEASE.

COME ON GUYS.

WE GOT A LONG AGENDA IS SHE'S CALLING IN ON A PHONE.

STAR SIX TO UNMUTE, HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

HELLO? MADAM CHAIR.

MADAM CHAIR.

WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

OKAY.

THANKS JENNIFER.

OKAY.

I'M SO THROWN OFF NOW.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

MY COMPUTER WENT OUT.

I THINK I HAVE AN OUTAGE OVER HERE WITH THE INTERNET, BUT I I'M.

I'M LOST NOW.

UM, WHERE WE'RE AT THE STAGE, MS. LUCAS, WHERE WE HAVE CALLED FOR A VOTE.

AND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO FORWARD THIS ON TO CITY COUNCIL WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS THEY ARE WRITTEN, AND EVERYONE HAS VOTED EXCEPT FOR YOU.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THAT OR NOT IN FAVOR? OKAY.

SO IT'S A NOT IN FAVOR, RIGHT? SO THE MOTION IS FOR THE ALTA COUNCIL WITH SAF, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

NO, I'M NOT IN FAVOR.

WE HAVE YOU DOWN AS A NO.

WOULD THAT BE THAT'S COMMISSIONER OVERTON, CORRECT? NO, THIS IS COMMISSIONER.

LOOK US.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER LUCAS.

I'M SORRY.

SO WE'VE GOT LUCAS, MYSELF, OVERTON AND RASMUS AS NO.

AND WE HAVE THREE YESES, WHICH WOULD BE THE CONJUNCT ONE, UH, BRIGHTWELL O'MALLEY AND SILVER.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION DOES FAIL.

AND, UM, IT WON'T BE GOING TO WA UH, JOE, DO WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER MOTION OR CAN THEY JUST TAKE THAT, THAT WE MEAN THAT IT'S A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

IF THE COMMISSION IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THEN OH YEAH, WE GOTTA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, MR. JOE, THANK YOU FOR HELPING US OUT HERE.

ALL RIGHT, GUYS.

SO NOW WE'RE STILL BACK AT SQUARE ONE.

WE, WE HAVE NOT MADE A RECOMMENDATION

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ON, UH, SENDING IT TO COUNCIL.

SO IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE IT TO COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION? I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THE W THE MOTION WAS THAT, UH, WE MOVE IT TO CAMP.

OKAY.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE IT TO COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

MS. LUCAS.

OKAY.

THE MOTION IS TO MOVE IT TO COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MS. RASMUS.

I COULD BARELY HEAR YOU, BUT I THINK I HEARD A SECOND, CORRECT.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT? I FORGOT TO ASK ON THE LAST ONE.

YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

THIS IS BRIGHTWELL.

THANK YOU, MR. BRAGG, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? SO SINCE IT'S A, SINCE IT'S AN SUP AND IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US THIS WAY IN A PUBLIC FORUM, AND THEN WE EITHER VOTE FOR IT TO GO FORWARD OR NOT, ARE WE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE EITHER A POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION? ACCORDING TO LEGAL? WE ARE, I KNOW A LONG TIME AGO, MR. BRIGHTWELL, WE DIDN'T SOME KIND OF WAY UNDER WE'VE CHANGED.

SO, SO DOES THE AGENDA ITEM REQUIRE US TO PUT IT FORWARD WITH A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION? QUINTILES? I'M HERE.

I'M HERE AND THERE.

OKAY.

SO A RECOMMENDATION NEEDS TO BE MADE, UH, IN MY OPINION.

SO, UM, YOU'VE GOT TO, YOU'VE GOT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS, UH, ON THIS SUP ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

SO YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

BACK TO THAT, IF YOU READ EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS, IT SAYS ON THE SEVEN 80 TO CONSIDER APPROVING A FINAL REPORT ON ITEM SEVEN, EIGHT, OR ONE, THAT MEANS EITHER WE APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SEND IT FORWARD WITH A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK WE HIT AGAIN.

I'M WAITING FOR LEGAL.

OKAY.

I'M LISTENING.

I'M READING WHAT YOUR YOU'RE, UH, THE AGENDA ITEM CONSIDER APPROVING A FINAL REPORT ON SEVEN 81.

SO WE'VE CONSIDERED IT AND WE'VE DISAPPROVED IT.

MY OPINION IS WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER.

WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER MOTION AND WE'VE CONSIDERED THAT ITEM AND THAT'S IT.

WE DON'T NEED TO GIVE IT A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE.

UH, I STAND CORRECTED.

YOU ARE RIGHT, BECAUSE THE AGENDA ITEM IS FOR CONSIDERING THE APPROVAL OF THE FINAL REPORT WITH, UH, SO IF IT WASN'T APPROVED IT, WASN'T APPROVED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, MR. QUINTON, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I THANK YOU TOO, AS WELL.

UH, COMMISSIONER BRIGHTWELL.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, THE FINAL, THE LAST MOTION THAT WAS PLACED ON THE TABLE WITH A MOTION, PLEASE BE MADE TO WITHDRAW THAT MOTION, MOTION TO SUBMIT IT TO COUNCIL, UH, WITH, UH, NEGATIVE STAFF APPROVAL.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SEE.

YES.

MA'AM WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE MOTION IS HERE BY A PULLBACK.

IT'S WITHDRAWN.

YES.

AND THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD.

IT HAS BEEN DISAPPROVED.

THANK YOU GUYS.

SO VERY MUCH.

LET'S MOVE NOW TO ITEM

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SEVEN.

B DOES THAT MEAN IT'S GOING TO CANCEL? IT'S GOING TO COUNCIL, BUT IT'S GOING TO COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

WE DID NOT APPROVE.

WE DID NOT