[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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I CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:30 PM.
I STAYED THAT THE NOTICE OF THIS SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS DULY POSTED.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS,
[2a. Discuss a proposed ordinance establishing a process for the placement of items on the agenda for city council consideration and requiring an agenda item for the use of city resources for council events. (Proposed presenter: Interim City Manager Bill Atkinson)]
ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM TO DISCUSS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE, ESTABLISHING A PROCESS FOR THE PLACEMENT OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR CITY COUNTY, CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, AND REQUIRING AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE USE OF CITY RESOURCES AND CITY COUNCIL ADVANCE.WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION BY CITY MANAGER, BILL ATKINS.
UH, THE SIGN WAS ON YOUR LAST AGENDA AND, UH, WE WERE, WAS KIND OF PACKED.
SO WE PULLED THIS AND BORROWED BACK THIS TIME, OR YOU REQUESTED TO COME BACK THIS TIME.
AND AS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A STAFF HAS SPOKEN TO THE HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL.
AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS, UH, TO BRING FORTH, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE WHEREBY IT WOULD DEFINE HOW AN ITEM GETS ONE, HOW AN ITEM GETS PLACED ON AN AGENDA THAT'S REQUESTED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THEN TO, UH, TALKING ABOUT CITY EVENTS AND HOW THE USE OF RESOURCES OF THE CITY FOR THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS.
AND TO THAT END, UH, WE HAD PROPOSED, UH, SOME INFORMATION AND STEPS FOR DOING THAT AND AS A POWERPOINT TO GO THROUGH THAT, UH, IN ORDER FOR THE BUSINESS TO GO ON THE AGENDA, UH, WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED AND DISCUSSED WITH THE, UH, COMMITTEE AND THEN HAD CHANGES THAT WE MADE BASED ON COMMITTEE INPUT WAS THAT A, AN ITEM WOULD BE IN WRITING AND SHALL CONTAIN A SHORT STATEMENT, UH, CONCERNING THE SUBJECT MATTER.
AND THE PARTICULAR ACTION THAT'S BEING SOUGHT BY A COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, SECOND REQUEST MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY BY THE, UH, FIVE O'CLOCK ON THE SEVENTH DAY PRIOR TO THE MEETING OR PROCEEDING THE MEETING AT WHICH SUBJECT WOULD BE CONSIDERED BYRD IN AN EVENT.
I MEAN, THE SCHEDULE ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, THE REQUEST MUST BE SUBMITTED TO SEE SECRETARY ABOUT 5:00 PM ON THE NINTH DAY IN ORDER TO GIVE, UH, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN LASTLY, UH, ON THIS SLIDE, A COPY OF SUCH RATING REQUEST WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET WHEN THE ITEM IS BEING CONSIDERED SO THAT ALL MEMBERS COUNCIL SEE WHAT THE REQUEST IS FOR AND HAVE BACKGROUND AS TO WHAT'S BEING ASKED, IN REGARDS TO THIS, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL THEN PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS MENTIONED, PROVIDED THAT EITHER, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE MAYOR BY MOTION WERE AUTHORIZATION ON MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL, UH, CHOOSES TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA OR NUMBER TWO, UH, THAT TWO OR MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS SEPARATELY, UH, REQUEST PLACEMENT OF AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
AND WRITING PURSUANT TO THE PROCESS DESCRIBED ABOVE THREE NINE RELATES TO A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS, A REQUESTED EVENT OR CITY EXPENDITURE THAT HAS NOT BEEN SCHEDULED.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE CITY'S EVENT CALENDAR ADOPTED WITH THE, ON THE CITY'S ADOPTED A CALENDAR OF EVENTS WITH THE BUDGET, OR SPECIFICALLY A BUDGETED, UH, IN THE THEN EXISTING COUNCIL ADOPTED BUDGET.
AND THAT INFORMATION WAS IN YOUR EXISTING BUDGET, UH, IN THE EVENT THIS TOOK PLACE.
AND WE WOULD, UH, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF NECESSARY TO AMEND.
AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER DETERMINES THAT AN NON REQUIRES COUNCIL CONSIDERATION NEXT WITH A REFERENCE TO CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL EVENTS, UH, COUNCIL EVENT, ADVERTISING CITY EVENTS AND PROGRAMS WOULD NOT IDENTIFY SPECIFIC CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS SPONSORS OR HOSTS PROGRAM TOWN HALL MEETINGS, EACH FISCAL YEAR, THE MAYOR AND THAT LARGE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, WOULD JOINTLY REQUEST TO SHARED A PROGRAM TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
AND EACH DISTRICT MEMBER MAY REQUEST, UH, TWO PROGRAMS, TWO PROGRAMS THAT IS, AND THEN A THIRD CONSIDER COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER, UH, CONSIDERATION WOULD BE REQUIRED.
AND A COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL SUBMIT SUCH A REQUEST TO THE CITY MANAGER AND RYAN, AND THEN IN TURN THE CITY MANAGER.
SO REVIEW SUCH REQUESTS BEFORE SUBMISSION TO COUNCIL AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUESTED, UH, USE OF, UH, OF, UH, REACH THE RESOURCES.
AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE A PRESCRIBED FOR A CUTOFF PERIOD, UH, SO THAT WE DO NOT COME IN CONFLICT WITH THE, UH, ELECTIONS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
UH, THAT IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
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A MOTION TO PLACE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED ON THE FUTURE AGENDA? YES.OR YOU ALL COULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS PURSUANT TO THE CITY'S CODE? EMOTIONAL.
I LIKE TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO DISCUSS THIS AGENDA ITEM.
I MEAN THIS ITEM, I SECOND THAT MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LONNIE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE DISCUSSION AS NUMBER EDWARDS.
UM, I RECALL LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS ITEM THAT IT WAS A CONSENSUS AMONG MY COLLEAGUES TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, AS WELL AS RETURN THIS ITEM BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
AND AS THE CHAIR, I DO WANT TO ASK, HAS IT BEEN BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR REVISION OR REVIEW? NO.
THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WITH YOU GUYS WILL, ALL OF US REQUESTED A WORKSHOP.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IN MY NOTES WITH THAT BEING STATED THAT WE GO AHEAD.
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID THAT IT WASN'T BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMITTEES FOR REVISIONS, OR YOU HAVEN'T EVEN CONTACTED US FOR A WORKSHOP.
I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT OUR VOICE OR OUR OPINION WASN'T EVEN HEARD AND THE REVISIONS AREN'T EVEN IMPORTANT TO YOU.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I FEEL AS IF THIS IS BASICALLY BEING BROUGHT UP FOR THE FOOD TRUCK FESTIVAL AND WITH THAT, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE US WITH A BREAKDOWN, WHICH WASN'T PROVIDED IN A SUPPORTIVE DOCUMENT, HOW MUCH TIME WAS SPENT AS FAR AS PERTAINING TO THE AGENDA, AS FAR AS HOW MUCH REVENUE IS SPENT, WHEN STAFF HAVE TO INDIVIDUALIZE EVENTS THAT WASN'T PROVIDED TO US.
SO I'M CONCERNED IS HOW THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF YOUR SUPPORTING, UH, LEAD SUPPORTING, UM, PHASES OF HOW THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DO US JUSTICE IN THE CITY.
SO I'M CONCERNED WHY THAT'S NOT IN THERE.
AND SECONDLY, IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UM, RESPONSES OR PUTTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND YOURSELF AND YOUR POSITION, NOT RESPONDING IN A TIMELY MANNER.
WHEN I HAVE CONCERNS FOR THE RESIDENTS, WHEN I HAVE CONCERNS AS FAR AS PROTOCOL.
AND WHEN WE HAVE CONCERNS OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE, IT TAKES AT LEAST TWO WEEKS.
I MIGHT HAVE TO COME UP HERE ON MY OWN DAY TO GET YOU TO RESPOND.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE A, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP.
THAT IS WHY I'M STAYING FROM VOTING FOR YOU AS THIS INTERIM POSITION.
AND THAT'S WHY I STILL STAND BY AS YOU'RE NOT A FIT FOR OUR LEADERSHIP MOVING FORWARD FOR THE CITY.
LET ME STAY, LET ME STAY ON TOPIC.
YOU ARE NOT ON POINT OF ORDER.
IF I'M STILL ON TOPIC, SIR, I AM ON TOPICS.
I MEAN, MARIN CITY MANAGER, AND I FINISHED MY STATEMENT.
I'M STILL ON TOPIC BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AN AGENDA.
CAN YOU SPEAK UP AS A POINT OF ORDER IS WHEN YOU'RE DEEMED OFF TOPIC AND I'M STILL ON TOPIC, THERE WAS A POINT OF ORDER MADE THE BASIS OF THE POINT OF ORDER WASN'T ARTICULATED.
BUT BECAUSE THERE IS A POINT OF ORDER, IT DOES NEED TO BE CLARIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
RIGHT? SO, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST TELL YOU, UH, CONSUMER EDWARDS, JUST STICK TO NO PERSONAL NAMES, STICK DIVISION ITEMS, PLEASE.
YOU HAD ASKED A COUPLE OF VALID QUESTIONS IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO LEAD TO, LET'S GO WITH THAT IS IN MY POSITION AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE RAN ACCORDINGLY, THEN AGAIN, THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR PUBLIC RESPONSE, PERSONAL RESPONSE.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO GET IN THE WEEDS OF THINGS.
I'M JUST BASICALLY STAYED IN BED.
HOW MANY DAYS, ANOTHER QUESTION I WANT TO HAVE, HOW MANY DAYS WERE, UM, DISTRICT MEMBERS ACTUALLY HAVING BEFORE THEY HAD THEIR TWO RECENT, UM, MEETINGS OR THAT WITHIN THE 45 DAYS, BUT YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
AND AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO GO WITH MY VOTE OF NO COMPETENCE AND YOU BILL, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERBAL WARNING AND I WILL PUT IT IN THE, UH, NEAR MASS, UH, AS CHAIR OF THE, OF THE HIGH PHARMAS COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN AT THE LAST TIME COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WAS WEEK BEFORE LAST.
AND WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP.
AND I THINK WE ALL VOTED ON THIS.
MAY I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT.
THE PURPOSE OF WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WORKSHOPS, THIS IS A WORKSHOP.
THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA ON THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
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FOR US TO DISCUSS THIS AS A WORKSHOP SPECIFIC ITEM A, WHEN YOU SAY WORKSHOP, IF YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC OR DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO SPEAK ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.BUT THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT BACK ON THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING AS A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM FOR US TO DISCUSS IT IN THE WORKSHOP SETTING.
THAT'S WHAT THIS PURPOSE, THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IS ON THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.
WHEN WE'VE ASKED FOR WORKSHOP, WE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY MARIA CITY MANAGER AND MARIA SECRETARY OFFICE HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER AND WE HAVE HAD OUTSIDE DATES OTHER THAN COUNSEL TIMES.
AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE LEGALITIES, THE DETAILS ON HOW THIS CAN BE AMENDED.
OH, NO, THIS IS NOT DEEMED AS A WORKSHOP TIME.
UH, THIS IS A WORKSHOP, IS IT NOT? THAT'S WHAT WE INTENDED.
AND TECHNICALLY THIS IS A, THIS IS A WORKSHOP SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.
SO A MEETING THAT'S NOT A REGULAR MEETING IS CONSIDERED A WORKSHOP BECAUSE GENERALLY YOU ALL DO NOT TAKE ACTION GENERALLY AT THE, OKAY.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS A CHAIR THAT MAYBE I'M WRONG THEN, BECAUSE I WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WILL COME BACK AS A COMMITTEE FIRST AND THEN COME BACK FOR A WORKSHOP.
CAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF THE CORRECTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE, IT'S NOT BEEN PASSED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT MISSED SINCE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE FULL BODY OF THIS CITY.
UH, ALL SEVEN OF US ARE DECISION MAKERS.
AND SO WE DON'T NEED TO, AS THIS HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE IT GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION, WHEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT AMONGST OURSELVES, NOW THAT IT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AS THE FULL BODY.
SO LET ME MAKE IT, LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR.
JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE, THIS ITEM OR THESE ITEMS THAT'S ON THE SLIDES WERE DISCUSSED BY THE HIGH-PERFORMANCE COMMITTEE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND IT WAS BROUGHT OUT TO CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT THIS HIGH-PERFORMANCE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING.
I WOULD CONSIDER THIS AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THEM, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO SOME OF US THAT IS NOT ON THAT HBO COMMITTEE HAVE NOT WANTING TO HAVE SOME INPUT IN HERE TO DISCUSS THIS.
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP LAST TIME TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE IT'S, IT WAS LOOKING IN THE LAST MEETING.
LIKE IT WAS JUST HERE, BUT YOU MOVE ON IT.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M THE ONE THAT PROPOSED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO BE PUT BACK IN.
SO THIS WAY WE CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS AND EVERY OTHER MEMBER WHO'S NOT ON THE HBO COMMITTEE CAN ASK QUESTIONS, UH, BASED ON THIS AND CLARIFY WHETHER, WHOEVER IT IS TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
SO THIS ITEM IS BEING BROUGHT BACK UNDER THESE SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA AS TO DISCUSS, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE TALKING ABOUT ANY ONE OF US, SEVEN OF US HERE THAT HAVE, UH, UH, CONCERNS OR ADD THINGS, TAKE AWAY THINGS, UM, AND WHATEVER IS WRITTEN HERE.
QUESTIONS, WHY IS WRITTEN THIS WAY? THIS WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS, GO AHEAD AND ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ALONG WITH THIS, BECAUSE I HAVE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS ALSO THAT I LIKE TO ASK, BUT I, SINCE YOU OPEN IT UP, LET'S JUST STICK TO THE QUESTIONS.
LET'S JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT INDIVIDUALS THAT'S IN THE POSITION, IF YOU MAY PLEASE.
UM, MY FIRST QUESTION TO WHICH I STATED EARLIER, SINCE YOU ARE STATING THAT RESOURCES ARE BEING SPENT ON THE AGENDA ITEMS AND PREPARING IT AS WELL AS INDIVIDUALIZED EVENTS, WHY WASN'T A BREAKDOWN PROVIDED SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE NUMBERS OF HOW MUCH IS ALLOCATED TO WHATEVER DEPARTMENT IS BEING PRETTY MUCH OVERCOMPENSATED BY US COUNCIL, ASKING FOR ITEMS TO BE PUT IN OR INDIVIDUALIZED EVEN.
SO THIS IS TH THIS IS LIKE A ORDINANCE OR DETENTION, AT LEAST WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD IS LOOKING FORWARD.
SO THAT, UM, PROPOSALS FOR FUTURE AGENDA OR EXCUSE ME FOR FUTURE EVENTS WOULD, UH, FOLLOW THAT FALL UNDER THIS AND FALL UNDER THESE GUIDELINES.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M ASKING SINCE YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT IT'S AN ISSUE, WHY WASN'T A BREAKDOWN OF LIKE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET, HOW MUCH TIME IS ALLOCATED OR BEING SPENT, OR STAFF ATTENDING TO INDIVIDUALIZE EVENTS AND, OR FOR PARENTAGE INTO, WITHIN A 72 HOUR TIMEFRAME
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THAT WE NEED SEVEN DAYS.JUST LET US KNOW WHAT EVENTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING I'M CONCERNED SINCE YOU'RE BRINGING THIS TO US.
I DON'T, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THESE NUMBERS ALREADY TALLY AND DOCUMENTING TO SUPPORT WHY THIS IS NEEDED.
SO I'M LOOKING AT, FOR THAT, WE'VE HAD INSTANCES WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN REQUESTS FOR EVENTS THAT, UH, HAVE FALLEN OUTSIDE OF OUR REGULAR EVENTS, UH, AND THAT, THAT, AND THEN ALSO ITEMS BEING PLACED ON THE AGENDA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD PROPER TIME TO PUT THOSE IN PLACE.
AND THAT THERE'S A REASONING BEHIND WHY THERE HAVE BEEN REQUEST TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA AND THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, DECIDE WHETHER TO PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA OR NOT.
AND SO THOSE WERE THE TWO AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC INSTANCES AND EXAMPLES.
I'M SORRY, WHAT CAN YOU GIVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES WHICH LED TO THIS REQUEST? SURE.
SO WE'VE HAD OVER THE TOP, OVER THE PAST, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS WE'VE HAD ITEMS WHERE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN PLACED OR HAD BEEN PUT ON THE AGENDA TO BE RECOGNIZED INDIVIDUALLY BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE'VE HAD, I'M TRYING TO THINK THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT STAND OUT IN MY MIND, BUT THERE'VE BEEN INSTANCES IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE HAD OTHER ITEMS PLACED ON THERE BY AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER AND, UH, WITHOUT THE INFORMATION THAT WE COULD PROVIDE TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE FOR CONSIDERATION OR, OR THE BACKGROUND FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO MY LAST QUESTION, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WILL THIS APPLY TO STAFF AS WELL, BEING ABLE TO PUT ON OUR AGENDA ITEMS, BECAUSE THIS WAS CLEARLY AN ISSUE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THAT, UM, STAFF HAD ISSUES PLACING ITEMS AT THE LAST MINUTE, PUTTING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AT FOUR 30, WHICH PRETTY MUCH ENABLED US TO ACTUALLY BE PREPARED TO VOTE ON THE ITEM.
SO WOULD THIS ACTUALLY BE RESPECTED ON BOTH WAYS WITH STAFF AS WELL? SO STAFF ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE ARE TIDYING UP OUR PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
WE PROVIDE YOU THE AGENDA BY THURSDAY AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
AND, UH, THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE WE'VE HAD INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT READY AT THAT TIME.
AND WE'VE TRIED TO GET BACK AND GET IT TO YOU.
UH, AGAIN, WE APOLOGIZE, BUT ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE'RE GOING TO TIGHTEN UP THAT PROCESS.
YEAH, IT'S A SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTION.
WILL YOU GUYS BE RESPECT ON THE SEVEN DAY ROLLS? IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VOTED ON, THAT'S FINE.
TO PROVIDE THE PRELIMINARY SEVEN DAYS FOR US THAT WOULD BE UP TO COUNCIL.
THIS IS A COUNCIL POLICY, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT IF THIS IS WHAT WE'RE FROM MY COLLEAGUES, IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS AND STAFF NEEDS TO PRETTY MUCH A PIECE OF THAT AS WELL.
AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE IS THAT WE MAY HAVE ITEMS THAT COME UP IN THE INTERIM THAT NEEDED ATTENTION BY THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, FOR A VOTE THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW, SEVEN DAYS ADVANCED, BUT, UH, WE WOULD TRY TO MITIGATE THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH US AS WELL.
WE RECEIVED CALLS, WE'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY THE PUBLIC AND WE ARE THE FACE AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY.
SO IF WE ARE GIVEN A, UM, SOME FACULTY ISSUES WHO RESOLVE OR ARE THE CITY, THE RESIDENTS AND SORRY, WELL, LIKE FOR US TO ADDRESS AND WE'RE OUT OF THAT SEVEN DAY WINDOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, NOT TO STAFF.
SO AGAIN, WE ALL HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR SOMETHING AND WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALIGNED AND DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENT.
AND AGAIN, UH, WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, WE DID MEET WITH THE HIGH PERFORMANCE SUB-COMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL.
THEY MADE CHANGES TO WHAT WE HAD PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
WHAT WAS THE EXISTING PRACTICE PRACTICE? WAS IT REALLY WASN'T A PRACTICE NECESSARILY PEOPLE.
WE HAD PEOPLE WHO WOULD, UH, OR WE'VE HAD GOING AS FAR BACK AS I CAN REMEMBER, PEOPLE MAY CALL AT CERTAIN TIMES AND SAY, HEY, I WANT THIS ON THE AGENDA OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THAT IS A, AND IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM THE DAY OF THE AGENDA GOING OUT, UH, TO, IN ADVANCE OF, AND THEN ALSO THERE'S BEEN VERY IN PRACTICE THIS AS FAR AS THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION GIVEN FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHEN LOOKING AT A PARTICULAR ITEM THAT'S BEING REQUESTED.
SO IF I REACHED OUT TO ONE OF THE FORMER MAYORS AND FOUND OUT WHAT THE PROCESS WAS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF IT, IF YOUR MEMORY SERVES YOU CORRECTLY, WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS THE, THE AGENDAS YOU PLACE THEM ON YOU PLACE THE AGENDAS ON, I WOULD SAY YOU NOT, YOU DIRECTLY, WHOEVER IS THE CITY MANAGER WOULD PLACE THESE AGENDA ITEMS ON THE, UM, FOR THE, ON THE AGENDA.
AND THEN THE MAYOR, UM, GOES THROUGH IT WITH THE CITY MANAGER DURING THEIR ONE-ON-ONE DISCUSSION OR WHATEVER, AND SAYS, YES, UH, LET'S GO WITH IT.
OR THE MAYOR WILL PULL AN ITEM BECAUSE OF WHATEVER REASON WHAT IT WAS AND PLACE IT ON THE NEXT MONTH, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THE ONLY
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TIME THAT AN AGENDA WAS, CANNOT BE PULLED OR RETRACTED OR PLACE FOR ANOTHER TIME WHEN THERE WAS TWO BODIES, TWO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, REGARDLESS OF DISTRICT OR A LARGER WHOEVER IT IS COME TOGETHER AND SAYS THEY WANT THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM ON AN AGENDA.SO AT THAT TIME, NOR THE CITY MANAGER, NOR THE MAYOR CAN PULL THAT, BECAUSE THAT TAKES TWO BODY OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THAT REQUESTED TO PUT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
IS THAT CORRECT OR WRONG? I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.
WHAT LED TO THIS COMING ON AND TALKING ABOUT THIS, OR WHO TOOK THIS ISSUE TO HBO OR HP COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU RECALL, YOU AND I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAD ITEMS THAT WERE BEING PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
AND, UH, I'VE MENTIONED TO THE HPO COMMITTEE, THE FACT THAT WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT, UH, ITEMS COMING LATE OR COMING SHORT NOTICE THAT IS, AND I SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT IT.
AND THEY HAD ASKED THAT WE BRING SOMETHING BACK.
WE DID, WE MET WITH THEM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO PRIOR TO PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA AT THE LAST MEETING, WITH THEIR CHANGES, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE HAD PRESENTED THEM PREVIOUSLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, LAST MEETING.
AND WE HAVEN'T CHANGED TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
NOTHING'S CHANGED SINCE LAST MAIN.
WE JUST PLACED IT BACK ON SPECIAL MEETING TONIGHT.
SO THERE'S NOTHING TO YOUR, THAT YOU AWARE OF THAT THE PRACTICE THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE? NOT THAT I RECALL, NO.
UM, MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO CORROBORATE WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT IN OUR MEETING BECAUSE I REACHED OUT TO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING MAYORS AND THAT WAS THE INFORMATION THAT I DID.
AND I DID RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO OUR COMMITTEE.
SO MAY I ASK, UM, WHAT WAS THE OUTPUT OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING? WHAT DID, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND KIND OF, WHAT WERE SOME THOUGHTS KIND OF GET BACK ON TRACK HERE? WHOEVER'S ON THAT COMMITTEE.
AND SO THE ORDINANCE I'M ON THAT COMMITTEE.
AND SO THE ORDINANCE WAS DEVELOPED AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH ANYTHING THERE SHOULD BE ORDER, THERE SHOULD BE A UNIFORMITY AND THERE SHOULD BE A PROCESS.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD INCLUDE PUTTING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED HERE.
SO IT'S ABOUT CREATING SOME UNIFORMITY AND SOME ORDER AND PROCESS.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE GUIDELINES.
AGAIN, THIS IS A WORKSHOP, SO IT'S OPEN FOR INPUT, YOU KNOW, WE, OUR COMMITTEE AND WE HELP TO SHAPE THIS ORDINANCE, BUT WE ARE ALL HERE FOR, TO, YOU KNOW, LEND OUR COMMENTS AND SHAPE IT.
SO FOR ME, I LOOK AT SLIDE SEVEN, PROGRAM TOWN HALL MEETINGS, EACH FISCAL YEAR, THE MAYOR, AND THAT LARGE COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY JOINTLY REQUEST TO SHARE PROGRAM TOWN HALLS IN EACH DISTRICT COUNCIL, MAYBE CREST TO PROGRAM.
UM, I PARTICULARLY LIKED THAT ONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY DIALOGUE AMONGST MY COLLEAGUES HERE.
UM, BUT I KNOW WHEN, UM, WE DID C AND D TOGETHER, UM, IT WAS BENEFICIAL NOT ONLY FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO STAFF.
THEY PUT TOGETHER ONE PACKET AND THERE'S ONE SET UP FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATIONS, ET CETERA.
UM, SO FOR THAT PARTICULAR BULLET, I'M IN FAVOR OF HOLDING THAT IN PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS ON THAT.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
WAS IT, WAS IT FOR, UH, IF I, IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION THAT ISN'T IN PLACE IN PRACTICE, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL, BUT THIS ONLY CODIFIES IT AND PUTS IT IN YOUR CODE SO THAT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME EXPECTATIONS.
AS FAR AS, UM, THE FIRST BULLET THERE, COULD I, EXCUSE ME, I'M SPEAKING AS FAR AS THE FIRST BULLET CITY EVENTS AND PROGRAMS SHALL NOT ADD, IDENTIFY SPECIFIC CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS SPONSORS OR HOST.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CAUSES STATED THAT HE BELIEVED IN AN ORDER AND FASHION, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THIS ORDINANCE COMING TO, UM, THE COUNCIL WHEN OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD THIS LIKE SPECIFIC EVENTS THAT WAS HOSTED BY THEM.
IT'S NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM FOR YEARS.
AND NOW HERE WE ARE TRYING TO AMEND IT.
SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT, OF A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE ALL HAVE INDIVIDUAL THINGS THAT WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SPEARHEAD THAT OR HOST THOSE EVENTS THAT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE CITY.
SO I DON'T SEE THIS BEING BROUGHT UP WHEN AGAIN, INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD SPECIFIC EVENTS WHERE THEY WERE HOSTING AND HAVING THIS.
AND SO AGAIN, I FEEL AS IF THIS IS BEING BROUGHT UP BECAUSE OF THE FOOD TRUCK ISSUE,
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I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE WITHIN ORDER, WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR, CONCISE, AND CONSISTENT.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR FOR THAT BULLET.
MAY, ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE A, YOU KNOW, EQUAL TIME TO, UH, YOUR FELLOW COLLEAGUES, A PINE ON THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED? CAUSE I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO, TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON THE ACTUAL ORDINANCES THAT ARE PRESENTED, NOT BE PERSONAL.
UH, AS IT RELATES TO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID, UH, I REACHED OUT AND ASKED IF THESE TWO ITEMS COULD BE SEPARATED RELATIVE TO ORDINANCES, BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE THINGS AND I DIDN'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED TOGETHER.
UH, ONE ABOUT HOW WE PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, UH, AS FAR AS THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AND THE OTHER IS ABOUT CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL EVENTS.
SO, UH, I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON THEM SEPARATELY.
UH, AS IT RELATES TO SECTION 2 77, UH, AGENDA ORDER OF A BUSINESS, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, ONE, UH, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, THE DETAILED STATEMENT, UH, SHALL BE IN WRITING AND CONTAIN A SHORT STATEMENT CONCERNING THE SUBJECT MATTER.
AND THE PARTICULAR ACTION SOUGHT HOW LONG OR DETAILED ARE WE ASKING THAT THIS SHORT STATEMENT BE, AND THIS, THAT PARTICULAR ACTION NEED TO BE A PART OF THAT STATEMENT, OR IT HAS TO BE A SEPARATE ONE BECAUSE I'M JUST READING IT.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET CLARITY ON IT'S NOT TRUSTIFY.
SO IN TERMS OF THE LENGTH OF THE STATEMENT, IT'S NOT SPECIFIED THE PURPOSE OF INCLUDING A WRITTEN STATEMENT IS TO PROVIDE YOUR COLLEAGUES AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC WITH A NOTIFICATION AND REASONING BEHIND THE REQUEST FOR THE ITEM, BUT THE LENGTH OF THE SUMMARY ISN'T SPECIFIED.
SO IT COULD BE A SENTENCE OR TWO SENTENCES, OR IT COULD BE A SENTENCE.
HOWEVER, THIS IS, THIS IS THE DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A REQUIREMENT AS TO THE LENGTH, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS TO, TO HAVE THAT AND REQUIRE THAT.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT THE REQUEST BEING SUBMITTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY BY 5:00 PM ON THE SEVENTH DAY PROCEEDING THE MEETING.
SO I KNOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE MEETINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAYS OF EVERY MONTH.
UH, SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MEETINGS, UH, THAT ARE DULY CALLED MEETINGS, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THERE'S SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETINGS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKSHOPS, SO WHATEVER WE CALL THEM, UH, AND CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN THAT SEVENTH DAY WOULD BE PRIOR TO THE MEETINGS? LET'S JUST ASSUME THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS THE THIRD MONDAY.
SO WHAT DAY WOULD THAT BE? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS MONDAY, SEVEN DAYS? I KNOW MARIA AND I ACTUALLY SAT DOWN AND WORKED WITH US OUT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT DATE WAS.
I BELIEVE IT WAS THE, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE PREVIOUS MONDAY, OR MAYBE EVEN THE PREVIOUS SUNDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
CUSTOMER BOLOGNA'S TO YOUR QUESTION WAS IF THERE'S A WORKSHOP ON THE THIRD, MONDAY, WHEN WOULD IT BE THE, WELL, I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
CAUSE WE COULD HAVE A DULY CALLED MEETING AT ANY TIME.
I'M JUST SAYING, USING THE NEXT MEETING, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS THE THIRD, MONDAY, RIGHT.
IF THIS WERE IMPLEMENTED AS AN EXAMPLE, WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED THAT MONDAY PRIOR AT 5:00 AM? CORRECT.
AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER THING, UM, MOVING ON TO TWO DASH EIGHT, FOUR ON THE CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL EVENTS, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST NOTICED IN THE ORDINANCE IS JUST, UH, A CORRECTION, UH, UNDER ITEM, UH, C IT HAS TWO WORDS THAT, THAT BACK TO BACK.
SO YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU MAKE THAT MODIFICATION ON THERE IF YOU READ IT.
UM, GOING BACK TO THIS, UH, STARTING OFF THE FIRST SLIDE, I DON'T AGREE WITH ANY OF THIS.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING ANY OF THESE ITEMS. THAT'S IN HERE ASKING THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TO PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING TO Y'ALL TO DO THIS.
THESE ARE NOT THE WAY HOW THINGS HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
AND THESE ARE MORE RULES AFTER RULES JUST TO REGULATE AND CREATE SOMEONE THAT WE MAY NOT LIKE, AND TO CREATE MORE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE THIS PROCESS EVEN TOUGHER.
SO I DON'T SUPPORT THE FIRST SLIDE.
I DON'T SUPPORT THAT EITHER THIRD SLIDE.
I HAVE A, I HAVEN'T EVEN GONE THAT FURTHER TO LOOK AT THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL EVENTS, SO THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED.
ANYBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS THOSE BECAUSE THOSE ITEMS, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER BONEY, THAT THESE ITEMS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPLIT DIFFERENTLY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I AM LOOKING AT COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE ASKING QUESTIONS
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TO THE CITY MANAGER.WHO'S IN LOOKING AT CITY ATTORNEY AND THEN ASKING CITY SECRETARY, WHO'S LOOKING AT THE CITY ATTORNEY, YOU GOT TO GET IT TOGETHER BEFORE YOU COME UP AND PUT SOME OF THIS TYPE OF STUFF TOGETHER.
AND TO SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MERELY WE COULD HAVE JUST PASSED IT RIGHT NOW, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE DISCUSSIONS.
I MEAN, UH, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE HAS, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF PROCESS IN PLACE AMONGST OURSELVES AS TO HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS? I MEAN, LET'S EXCLUDE THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY SECRETARY, THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, ARE WE OKAY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE BEING DONE NOW? AND IF SO, AND THIS IS A MOOT POINT AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP, BUT IF WE ARE NOT OKAY WITH THAT, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION VERSUS JUST SIMPLY SAYING WE'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING UNDER THE CHARTER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
HE JOYCE, IT TALKS ABOUT TWO MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? DOES IT SAY ANY OF THAT? WHAT'S IN THE CHARTER ABOUT THE, UM, CONSIDERATION FOR AGENDA ITEMS CHARTER, IT PROVIDES THAT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAY OFFER UP AN ORDINANCE, UM, PROVIDED THAT THE ORDINANCE IS APPROVED TO FORM AS A FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND THEN IT CAN THEN BE PLACED ON AN AGENDA.
IT DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR OTHER ITEMS LIKE AUTHORIZATION ITEMS. IT DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE.
IT JUST PROVIDES THAT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAY, UH, ESSENTIALLY GET WITH THE ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
WHAT ABOUT CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL EVENTS? IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CHARTER? THERE'S NOTHING ON THE CHARTER.
SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT BROUGHT UP BY THE CITY ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO HAVE, OR WHO BROUGHT THIS TO THE HBO COMMITTEE.
SO WE DID, OR I DID, AND, UH, I DISCUSSED IT WITH THEM.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CHANGES THEY MADE REQUEST FOR, AND THAT WAS, UH, I BELIEVE INSTEAD OF 60 DAYS FOR AN EVENT THAT IT WAS 45.
AND I CAN'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WHAT IF THREE OTHERS? BUT, UH, OTHERWISE THE COMMITTEE, AS I RECALL, WAS IN FAVOR OF THE, ARE NOT IN FAVOR, BUT THEY SUPPORTED THIS.
AND THEY ALSO HAD ADDED SOMEBODY PRIOR TO US DRAFTING.
THIS GAVE US INPUT ON SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE IN HERE TOO.
SO IT WASN'T NOT, NOT JUST A STAFF-DRIVEN THING.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SPOKE TO THE COMMITTEE ABOUT AND THEY PROVIDED INPUT AS WELL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS I WANT TO REVISIT THIS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT US TO KEEP FOCUSING ON STAFF.
THIS WAS ASKED TO BE PUT ON AN AGENDA FOR US AS THE BODY TO DISCUSS AND TO MAKE A DECISION ON.
AND SO I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A WASTE OF TIME.
IF WE'RE SITTING HERE SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS, JUST TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN WHEN THIS IS NOTHING THAT WE EVER WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT MAKING A DECISION ABOUT, I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FLESH THIS OUT AND COME AWAY WITH SOMETHING.
DO WE, ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE AS WE MOVE? OR ARE WE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION ON IMPLEMENTING AN ORDINANCE OR VOTING ON AN ORDINANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, HELPS US GOVERN OURSELVES? WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT AND CLEAR, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE, WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH FOLLOWING THEM.
HOW MANY DAYS A DISTRICT MEETING SHOULD BE PLANNED OUT.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WAS ENFORCED WITHIN THE LAST TWO DISTRICT MEETINGS.
WE JUST HAD THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SENT OUT TO YOU AS COUNSEL THAT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I BELIEVE, OR FROM CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, THAT THE 17TH, I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER 17TH WAS THE LAST DAY.
HOW MANY DAYS IN ADVANCE SHOULD A DISTRICT MEETING BE PROVIDE PROVIDED TO WHATEVER DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO BE PLANTED? HOW MANY DAYS IN ADVANCE DOES THE POLICY SAY THAT SHOULD BE NOTIFIED TO DO THAT WAS SENT TO THE COUNCIL TO NOTIFY? I DON'T RECALL THE NUMBER.
NO, MA'AM, I'M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THE DAYS THAT I THINK IF I MAY, I THINK WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS ASKING IS WHETHER THERE IS A POLICY THAT PROVIDES FOR THE COUNCIL NOW TO REQUEST THE DISTRICT MEETING.
AND SO I THINK THE ANSWER IS THERE'S NOT A POLICY, WHICH THERE WAS DISCUSSION AND THERE WAS NO POLICY FOR A DISTRICT MEMBER OR AT LARGE MEMBER TO PROVIDE, TO SAY, FOR INSTANCE, HYPOTHETICALLY THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT THAT THEY WANT TO HOST THEIR MEETINGS.
IF I WANT TO HOST A MEETING, I CAN JUST SAY NEXT WEEK, I WANT TO HOST A MEETING AND JUST MAKE STAFF RAMBLE NOTICE.
AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A POLICY IN PLACE.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT CONSISTENT ON THE POLICY.
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IT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED.IT'S ALREADY A POLICY IN PLACE.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE COUNCIL THAT, THAT NEEDS TO HAVE A SEAT.
SO I GO BACK TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY.
I MEAN, A COUNCIL, MY PER BONY WAS TALKING ABOUT, THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF GROUND RULES THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN.
SO THIS WAY WE CAN ALL FOLLOW THROUGH.
AND I THINK HE SAID IT, I HEARD HIM SAY IT.
I'M NOT READY TO VOTE ON THIS TODAY BECAUSE THERE'S STILL QUESTIONS.
THERE ARE STILL ISSUES THAT GOING BACK AND FORTH AND TO BE ABLE TO JUST GO, YOU KNOW, A OR NAH, I MEAN THAT'S ALL, OR NOTHING IS NOT FAIR TO, TO HAVE MORE CLARITY ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE PRACTICE WAS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE IS A PRACTICE IN PLACE AND YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF IT.
IF YOU COULD JUST LET ME, IF YOU COULD GUIDE ME TO WHO SAID THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT.
CAUSE I DON'T RECALL THAT OR DON'T KNOW ABOUT I WILL.
I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CLOUDS ARE SET AT BEST PROCESSING THE FORM OF THE ORDER.
AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE AND THERE'S ROOM, RIGHT.
THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT HERE.
SO LET'S JUST KEEP WORKING THROUGH IT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THIS WEEK.
SO SHOULD WE SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP OUTSIDE OF A COUNCIL MEETING TO DISCUSS, I MEAN, THAT WAS OUR, OUR CONSENSUS LAST TIME AND I THOUGHT WE WERE CLEAR ON IT.
SO SHOULD WE, SO WHAT DATE WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE ASKING THAT GENERAL QUESTION, MY THING IS WE'RE CLOSE TO GETTING A CITY MANAGER FOR THIS CITY.
I LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING SUCH AS THIS.
I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AND CREATED WHERE A NEW PERSON MAY COME IN AND WANT TO HAVE DIVERTED AND CHANGE, MAKE CHANGES AGAIN, OR AT LEAST GIVE THAT INDIVIDUAL AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH WHAT HE OR SHE MAY THINK TO SEE IT.
SO I LIKE TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER IN PLACE.
I KNOW THAT DISCUSSIONS WHEN WANT TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE ARE NO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA.
UM, THERE'S UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE ADJOURN.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN.