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GOOD EVENING,

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

EVERYONE EVENING.

UM, THE SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2022 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS CALLED.

WE DO HAVE FORUM PRESENT ON TONIGHT, COMMISSION OVER HERE AND COMMISSIONER, AND ARE HERE ON THIS EVENING.

WE DO HAVE A COMMISSIONERS AND MOVING

[a. Consider approving the minutes of the August 10, 2022 Planning and Zon...]

FORWARD YOUR MOTION 10.

THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFIN, IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU.

DISCUSSION IN FAVOR AS WELL.

AND THE MOTION CARRIES, UM, COMMISSION REPORTS, UH, CHAIR.

I REALLY DON'T HAVE A REPORT ON TONIGHT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS TYPE

[(A.) Development Services]

REPORTS COMMISSION IN ACTUALLY WE HAVE A REPORT TONIGHT.

UM, A FEW BRIEF THINGS.

UM, I AM VERY EXCITED, UM, TO ANNOUNCE MIKE SOUNDS, BUT I'M EXCITED TWO PROMOTIONS ON OUR TEAM.

UM, VERY WELL DESERVED PROMOTIONS.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE THE, TO KNOW THAT, UM, WE HAVE THE GINA WHO SERVICES OUR FAMILY TECHNICIAN, UM, PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR THE COMMISSION OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, UM, INTO OUR ONE POSITION.

SO VERY EXCITED EVERYONE.

AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, HAVE , WHO'S BEEN PROMOTED INTO OUR POSITION.

UM, AND SO, UH, SO THEY ARE A GREAT TEAM AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME KIND THINGS, UM, AS THEY CONTINUE ROLE PLAYING WITH DISTRICT.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, JUST ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT THE COMMISSION WAS GIVEN, UH, THESE SHEETS, UM, AND THEY'RE ALSO AVAILABLE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

UM, IT'S ALSO, UH, BEING PROMOTED ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, SOCIETY, GROUP COMMUNICATIONS, UM, AND ON THE CITY'S, UM, UH, THE, UH, MESSAGE TOWARDS AROUND THE CITY.

UM, BUT AS COMMISSION KNOWS, MISSOURI CITY IS ONE OF THE FIRST STATE CITIES HAVING THAT DESIGNATION.

WE ARE PLATINUM, MEANING WE AT THE HIGHEST DESIGNATION THAT CAN BE AWARDED.

UM, AND, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WE WERE AWARDED FIRSTLY BEFORE OUR NEIGHBORS.

UH, SO WHEN EVERYONE DOES THOSE COMPARISONS, MISSOURI CITY WAS FIRST, UH, IT IS RECOGNITION OF A PLATINUM STUDENT CITY.

UM, AND IT'S RECOGNIZE THE STRONG ORDINANCES OR REGULATIONS THAT THIS COMMISSION, UM, HAS BEEN PART OF ADOPTING, INCLUDING OUR LANDSCAPING STANDARDS, SCREENING STANDARDS, UH, SAHI TEAM PUBLIC WORKS AND, UH, THEIR RIGHT WAY STANDARDS, STREET, CASE STANDARDS, THE BI PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY PLAN.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE PARTS, UM, EFFORTS AS WELL, UH, WITH SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT THEY'VE DONE.

SO WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THAT HONOR, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, THE SENIOR CITY PROGRAM IS AWARDING A PHOENIX CITY OF THE YEAR.

UM, AND SO MISSOURI CITY WANTS TO BE THAT CITY.

UM, SO I JUST ASK THAT EVERYBODY GO PASS YOUR VOTE.

UH, THERE'S A QR CODE ON THE SCREEN.

UM, THERE'S A QR CODE ON, UH, THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN PASS AROUND, PASS AROUND TOWN, SHARE, UM, AS MANY VOTES AS WE CAN GET.

UH, THE WINNER WILL BE, UH, UH, NAMED AT THE TL CONCERT CONCERT TL CONFERENCE, UH, THE FIRST WEEKEND OCTOBER.

SO VOTING, UH, CAN BE PASSED THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

UH, SO PLEASE VOTE FOR OUR CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY'S GREAT COMMUNITY, UM, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SHOWCASE THAT, UH, ACROSS THE STATE, UM, ACROSS OUR COUNTRY.

SO, UM, THAT IS THAT.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY ONE HOUSEKEEPING, ANOTHER COMMISSION, UH, HAS SEEN A CHANGE IN THE REPORTS THAT ARE INCLUDED, UM, IN YOUR PACKETS.

AND I ASK THAT YOU BEAR WITH US, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO DO TRANSITIONING, UH, WITH OUR, UH, SOFTWARE SYSTEM, UH, TO MAKE IT MORE, UM, EASY TO COMMUNICATE, UH, INFORMATION TO BOTH OUR APPLICANTS, OUR CUSTOMERS, UH, THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION.

UH, SO YOU'LL START TO SEE SOME CHANGES AND, UH, WE HOPE FOR THE BETTER.

UM, SO GIVE US OUR FEET, YOU KNOW, YOUR FEEDBACK ON, UM, THE FUNCTIONALITY OF IT, CUZ WE WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, THAT IT COMMUNICATES, UM, THE MESSAGE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE STATUS OF A, UH, APPLICATION IS.

SO THAT'S THE REPORT I HAD FOR TONIGHT.

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THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT REPORTS.

IS THERE ANY KINDA WAY POSSIBLE IN THE SYSTEM THAT WE COULD START SEEING THE REPORTS AS THEY ARE COMING IN? OR IS THAT AGAINST RULES? NO, WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION.

SO, UM, THE SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE WORKING HERE, WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING IN TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS. UH, SO THE AGENDA, UM, JUST LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS IS BEING BUILT, UM, IN ONE SYSTEM.

UM, AND THEN THE REPORTS AND THE INFORMATION, THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS AND ALL OF THAT, THAT ARE BEING REVIEWED, UM, ARE BEING INPUTTED AND PROCESSING A DIFFERENT SYSTEM.

UM, SO THOSE TWO SYSTEMS COME COMMUNICATE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN OPEN UP THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS TO THE COMMISSION.

SO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

AND THEN ONCE THE STAFF REPORTS, UM, AND, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GENERATED, THOSE WILL BE BUILT INTO THE AGENDA.

UM, BEFORE IT'S POSTED, I'M COMPLETELY BACK ON, I FIRST ON THIS, CAN THIS BE DUPLICATED? YOU WANT TO GIVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE? SO I COPIES DUPLICATE PLEASE.

OKAY.

NUMBER TWO, I THOUGHT WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, GETTING TO US IN A TIMELY FASHION AND I NOTICED THAT ONE CAME IN YESTERDAY.

MM-HMM AND I'M JUST KIND OF NEED TO GO.

WHAT IS THE TIMELINE AS FAR AS GIVING, UH, AGENDA ITEMS TO THE, UH, COUNSEL? YEAH.

GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE , WE, WE TRIED TO GET UP TO YOU AT FRIDAY BEFORE THE MEETING, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE DECISION AGENDA THAT WE HAD ABOUT 12 CLASS, UM, IT TAKES QUITE A BIT TIME TO KIND OF PROCESS THAT INFORMATION.

UM, SO IT, IT SHOWS QUITE A BIT OF TIME FOR US TO PULL THIS AGENDA TOGETHER.

SO THE AGENDA WAS POSTED, UM, BUT THE REPORT, UM, FOR, UM, ONE OR TWO OF THE CASES, CAUSE IT'S NOT READY, UM, TO GO OUT PRIOR TO THAT TIME.

SO OUR GOAL IS STILL TO GET TO YOU AT LEAST THAT FRIDAY, UM, BEFORE, SO YOU HAVE THE WEEKEND, UM, POSSIBLY A HOLIDAY.

IF YOU HAVE THAT IN THERE, UH, TO SPEND TIME, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA, ASKING ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED, UM, UH, EARLIER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND GIVING PARTIAL, UM, INFORMATION, BUT AS IT'S BEING PREPARED JUST WHERE WE'RE PULLING INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT PLACES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ARE READY GO.

SO THE APPLICANT IS TURNING IN, IN A TIME FASHION.

YES.

SO FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, YES.

HAPPENED IF THEY DID NOT PRESENT THAT THIS, SO THE ZONE CHANGE.

SO ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS THAT YOU'RE SEEING FROM THE, UM, THE APPLICATIONS WERE ALL SUBMITTED, UM, IN AUGUST DURING WE HAD TWO DATE IN AUGUST THAT, UM, APPLICATIONS COULD BE RECEIVED, UM, ZONE CASES ARE STAGGERED RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO THIS ZONE CASE CAME IN, I BELIEVE IN JULY.

UM, AND THEN ITS SCHEDULED FOR CALL ONE ONE, UM, AFTER THAT.

UM, SO THE SNOW DATES ARE NOT CHANGING AT ALL.

THE APPLICANTS ARE GETTING THEIR APPLICATIONS IN ON THOSE SUBMIT DATE.

UM, IF AN APPLICATION COMES IN NOW ON SNOW DATE, THAT IS SUBJECT FOR DISAPPROVAL, PARTICULARLY ON THE CLASS, BECAUSE THE HAS TO ACT ON A APPLY WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIVING THOSE APPLICATIONS.

SO THE ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UH, YESTERDAY, WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED, IF IT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA I TODAY AND IT FOR NEXT MONTH WOULD'VE HAPPENED IF IT WEREN'T ON THE AGENDA, IF IT YEAH.

THE CASE HAVE TO ACT ON THAT CASE.

NO.

SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE NEXT ONE.

IT, IT IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED.

WE'LL, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT THROUGH, UM, THAT, SO I JUST, I JUST THINK IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, UM, WHEN IT'S GIVING TO US A DAY BEFORE TO MEETING, IT JUST DOESN'T GIVE ME, I KNOW THE COMMISSIONS ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY PROCESS THE INFORMATION.

AND SO WE MAY BE HASTING ON VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON REALLY THOROUGHLY HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

SO I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STANDPOINT AND STRAIGHT, WE WOULD APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE WEEK BEFORE AND IF IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THE PROCESS, IF SOMETHING COMES IN LATE, JUST DELAY IT TO THE NEXT ONE,

[(B.) Engineering]

HAVE A DURING, UH, CHAIR COMMISSION HAVE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC REPORT.

AGAIN, LET ME COME ON MY MIC.

UH, DURING THE CHAIR COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC REPORT.

I JUST WANT TO REPORT THAT.

AND THE SEARCH FOR THE ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER POSITION WHO'S USED SITTING HERE, UH, IN THE INTERIM HERE, WE'RE ALSO ING MY TEAM MEMBERS HERE, NINA, WHO'S THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HANDS AND BRIAN, WHO'S

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THE ENGINEERING TECH.

WE BUILDING A TEAM THAT CAN TAKE ON THIS ROLE AND OPEN SUCH ASSIS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

SO PUBLIC, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS IN REGARD TO MATTER AGENDA, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD.

WE'RE

[a. CONSENT AGENDA]

NOW AT ITEM SEVEN, A OUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT AGENDA.

WE CONSIDER THESE ITEMS AND ALL WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION, ONE CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY OFIA DETENTION RESERVE TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAQUE OF CENTER THREE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY OF SECTION CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY SECTION 31 5 CONSIDERATION OF FINAL OF BUSINESS.

PART SIX, CONSIDER APPLICATION OF SECTION TWO, CONSIDER SECTION THREE EIGHT, CONSIDER APPLICATION ITEM NINE, CONSIDER APPLICATION CONSIDER APPLICATION OF A FINAL AND 12 CONSIDER APPLICATION OF MOTION.

MOTION.

ONE QUESTION

[(4.) Consider an application of a preliminary plat of Sienna Village of Bee...]

IS TITLE FOUR .

SO I THINK THE NUMBERING, BECAUSE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, THE SECOND PAGE PROBABLY CONTAINS THE CERTIFICATIONS, UM, THAT ARE THE LINE.

SO ADJUST THE PAGE NUMBER.

UM, WELL, SO THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING IS I ALWAYS GO TO THE VIC MAP AND TWO, THREE ALL

[B Sienna 3H]

COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO THIS IS ON THE AGENDA AND STAFF APPROVAL REVISION OF THREE H IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED REVIS AND ADDING IT TO PLAN AND PLAN NINTH OF THIS.

MR. OLAND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

[C Sienna 4B]

SO THIS ONE'S NOT CONSIDERED GENDER BECAUSE, UM, THE FOLLOWING SECTION 73, THEY WERE, UM, THEY APPLIED AT THE SAME TIME, SO THEY HAVE SEPARATELY.

SO SIX SECTIONS, UM, AND TOTAL ABOUT ACRES AND, UM,

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OF THE CONDITIONS, THIS

[D JR Tire Shop]

ID, SO IS RECOMMENDING OF THE DROP FOR THEIR WRITTEN RESPONSE WAS INITIALLY CONDITIONS.

AND, UM, THEY DO A WRITTEN RESPONSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE CONDITIONS.

AND IN THIS CASE, APPLICANT DID NOT ADDRESS ALL OF THE CONDITIONS EVEN WHEN IT WAS COMMUNICATED.

SO QUESTIONS SAID THEY IS THIS APPROVAL.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

JUST THIS POINT OF INFORMATION FOR ME IS WHEN THEY GET A SECOND WRITE THE OUTPUT.

YES.

SO WHEN IS THIS APPROVED? YOU DO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO RE UM, I JUST TAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR INITIAL FLAT APPLICATION.

SOME THIS CASES, WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY APPLIED FOR PRELIMINARY, FLAT, THEY WERE APPROVAL CONDITIONS WITH THE COMMISSION AND THEN FOLLOWING MONTH, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO HIRE RESPONSE, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED HERE AND WHEN THEY DON'T APPROVE OR WHEN THEY DON'T MEET ALL OF THE CONDITIONS, UM, THEN APPROVAL.

SO THEY HAVE TO DO COMPLETELY NEW APPLICATIONS.

YES.

SO GET, OR TO RECOUNT TO THEM.

YES.

IS THERE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION, THIS, THANK YOU.

THANK GRIFFIN.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

WE'RE

[A. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT]

GONNA MOVE NOW TO ITEM, DISCUSS DISTRICTING PD ONE, THE REPORTS THAT SHE NOT RECEIVED, UM, LIKE YESTERDAY TRYING TO WALK FOR WHAT, THE CHANGES ON THIS COURT REPORT OR WHAT IS INFLUENCE.

SO THE BLACK OUTLINE IS THE AREA OF PLAIN ELEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 96.

UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE OVER UNDER ACRES.

UM, THE SURROUND FIRE STATION SIX PRIOR STATION SIX IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF NUMBER SIX OR SIX.

UM, AND THEN ALSO INCLUDES SOME AREA LAKE OLYMPIA VI, UM, WHERE SEVEN 11, UM, AND THEN THE AREA BEHIND THAT SEVEN OFF OF AND LAKE OLYMPIA.

SO THE THING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BELIEVE IN 2014.

UM, THE THE, THE STAFF REPORT, UM, PROVIDED, UM, BUT PART OF A MENT DISTRICT, UM, IT DIVIDED THIS AREA OF, UM, INTO SUB DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR A MIX OF USES.

SO THIS, UM, IS A COPY OF THAT CONCEPT THERE THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE PLAIN DISTRICT ORDINANCE.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHER STATION SIDE, THAT GRAY AREA, UM, SURROUNDED BY, UH, AREA, UM, DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN YOU SEE THE OTHER STUFF DISTRICTS SURROUNDING THAT.

SO YELLOW AREA THAT'S TO BE RESIDENTIAL, THE ISH AREAS ARE VARIOUS, UM, DELIVERIES OF COMMERCIAL.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THE KIND OF PEACH AREA MORE TOWARDS THE CORE, THE ARCHIVE, UM, IS A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UM,

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USE, BUT THE NAME IS A LITTLE DISTINCT CAUSE ACTUALLY NON RESIDENTIAL, UM, THAT COULD HAVE SOME, UM, HIGHER RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEN ALSO, AND RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THERE, LIKE COMMERCIAL USES ENTERTAINMENT, UH, USES, ET CETERA.

UM, THE SUBJECT OF THIS PD AMENDMENT IS ONLY, UM, GOING THE AREA'S PATH OF LAKE OLYMPIA AS FAR AS THE, UH, PROPOSED OF GOING TO THE USES.

UH, SO THAT AREA TIME OF THE OLYMPIA, UH, EAST OFFORD, UM, THAT OF US BEING BE ESTATE ACTIONS, UM, THE UN A PORTION OF THE UNDEVELOPED AREA, UH, IS WHAT, UH, IS SUBJECT TO THIS AMENDMENT TONIGHT.

SO YOU GO OFFER THE AMENDMENT PROPOSED OR CONTAIN TYPE REPORT.

UM, SO THE FIRST MOVEMENT IS TO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE.

UM, SO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE IS LOOKING TO AMEND, UH, PHASE ONE, UH, TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, UNITS HAVE TO BE PERMIT UNDER PHASE ONE.

SO THIS IS NOT AN INCREASE IN MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.

IT'S NOT, UM, ADDING MULTI-FAMILY UNITS OTHER THAN ONE PREVIOUSLY IMPROVED.

UM, IT'S ALLOWING ADDITIONAL MULTI-FAMILY UNITS WITHIN THAT ALREADY EXISTING ALLEGATION, UH, TO BE DES DISRUPTED IN PHASE ONE.

SO RIGHT NOW THE C IN PHASE ONE IS 50% OF THE TOTAL MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

I, THE FIELD, UM, WITHIN FPD, UM, THE CAP RIGHT NOW IS AT 350, UH, UNITS.

UH, THEY HAVE TWO, UM, POTENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.

ONE IS LIKE IN THESE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY.

UH, ONE IS, UH, A FULL MARKET RATE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR 476 UNITS.

UH, SO THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT WOULD BE, UH, TO ALLOW FOR BOTH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TO PROCEED.

UM, THE PAING PLAN IN, UH, THE PD WAS DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE THE MULTI-FAMILY OR THE, UH, THE EXCUSE, UH, COMPONENT OF THE PD.

SO IT WOULDN'T JUST BE A RESIDENTIAL PD, UH, BUT IT WOULD BE TRUE EXCUSE, UH, PD.

UM, SO THE THING WAS, SO THAT RESIDENTIAL USES WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED, UM, TO COINCIDE EQUIPMENT ON RESIDENTIAL USES.

UM, SO THAT COULD, THAT WOULD STILL HAPPEN WITH THIS AMENDMENT, UM, AND ALLOW US TO, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENTS TO PROCEED FORWARD.

UM, THE OTHER PROPOSAL AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO THE PHASE TWO, UM, AND THAT INTEREST BE FOR THE COMPLETE WILL OUT OF MULTIFAMILY TO COINCIDE WITH, UM, ADDING ADDITIONAL NON RESIDENTIAL, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE, INTO REPEATING THE OTHER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UH, CONCERNING AREA.

I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, SOUTH LAKE OLYMPIA IN EAST OF, UM, AND THAT PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE ADDITION OF MANY WAREHOUSE STORAGE FACILITIES TO BE A PERMITTED USE IN THE COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT ONE.

SO THAT AREA WAS SEVEN 11 IN THE AREAS CROWN EVENT, THAT AREA, UM, ON THE CONCEPT FOR THE CYCLING THAT SHOWED YOU, UM, IS CALLED COMMERCIAL.

THE, UH, SO THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO ALLOW FOR A MINI WAREHOUSE STORAGE FACILITY, UH, TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THAT AREA.

UM, AN ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS TO ALLOW FOR THAT MINI WAREHOUSE STORAGE FACILITY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THREE STORAGE OR 45 FEET.

UM, SO THE MAXIMUM FOR THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TODAY, UM, IS TWO STORIES OF 35 FEE, WHICH IS, UH, MATCHES THE STABLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO IT.

AND THEN, UH, THE LAST COMMITMENT WOULD BE TO APPLY THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, UM, WHICH IS, IS THE STANDARD OF PRACTICE.

BUT THIS PD SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT, UH, THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED, UM, AS APPLYING TO LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.

SO IF THE COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND ALLOWING FOR MINI WAREHOUSE STORAGE FACILITY, UH, WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS TRACK, UH, HAVE, SO IN THE PACKET THAT WERE INCLUDED, THERE WERE TWO LAYOUTS, UM, FOR A MAIN WAREHOUSE USE.

UM, SO IF THERE'S BETTER VIEW OF, FOR THE PUBLIC, IF THEY PULL IT UP FROM THE PACKET, THESE ARE SCREENSHOT, UM, OF BOTH OF THOSE DOCUMENTS.

UM, THE FIRST, UM, IS THE FIRST OCCUR AND THE FIRST THING, UH, THE IMAGE, THE LAYOUTS TO THE LEFT, UM, WOULD BE A CLIMATE CONTROL, UH, BUILDING OF SINGLE BUILDING, UM, HAVING APPROXIMATELY 150,800 SQUARE FEET.

UM, AND YOU CAN TELL FROM THE LAYOUT, UM, THE PORTION, UH, LET'S SEE, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING ADD AN ANNUAL AND THE ANGLES FACING IN THE DIRECTION OF LAKE OLYMPIA, UM, AS THAT WOULD BE WHERE MULTI PARKING RESOURCE USED TO BE LOCATED.

UM, THE AREA RIGHT ALONG WITH THE FRONTAGE OF LAKE MPIA WOULD NOT BE PART, UM, OF THAT MIS STORAGE TRACK.

UM,

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THIS WOULD BE A SINGLE BUILDING, UM, AND THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FLEXIBILITY, UH, TO INCREASE HEIGHT, UM, FROM TWO STORIES, 35 FEET, UH, TO THEY WANT GET THREE STORIES, UM, OF 2 45 FEET.

UM, THE SECOND LAYOUT SHOWS WHAT COULD, IT COULD LOOK LIKE IF THE CURRENT MAXIMUM HEIGHT SCORE POSES.

UH, SO THIS WOULD BE A ONE, TWO STORY BUILDING, UM, AND UP TO THREE, ONE STORY BUILDINGS, UH, WITHIN THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, THE DESIRE APPROACH IS TO CONSOLIDATE ALL OF THAT, UM, INTO ONE, UM, BUILDING.

UM, AND SO THAT IS THE PROPOSAL FOR THE, UH, DEVELOPER AND THE APPLICANTS SUBMITTED, UM, SOME IMAGES OF, OF SIMILAR TYPES OF FACILITIES, UH, THAT THE, THIS PARTICULAR STORAGE GROUP, UH, HAS INSTRUCTED.

UM, AND THEY ARE PRESENT HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO, UH, PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION AROUND RESPOND TO ANY, UH, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

UH, BUT THIS GIVES ME HIGHER ADVANTAGE OF WHAT A THREE STORY MAIN STORAGE STRUCTURE, UM, SIMILAR DESIGN FOR LOCATION COULD APPLY.

AND THIS WILL BE ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THAT THREE STORY STRUCTURE, UM, COULD APPLY.

AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A TWO STORY.

LIKE, I DUNNO, JUST TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE STORY.

YEAH.

THIS ONE, LIKE A TWO STORY.

THIS ONE, UM, LOOKS LIKE A THREE STORY.

THIS ONE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THIS WHERE BUILDINGS ALONG, UM, THE CORNER, UM, AND THEN, THEN THE TRANSITION, SEE SOME SINGLE FAMILY IN DISTANCE, UM, FROM THIS FACILITY, THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY.

OKAY.

UM, WELL, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, UM, ARE AS TO APPROVE, UH, THE CHANGES, THE AMENDMENTS TO DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE.

SO THE AMENDMENT TO PHASE ONE AND THE AMENDMENT TO PHASE TWO, UM, AND THEN TO APPROVE, TO ALLOW THE MINI WAREHOUSE STORAGE USE OF WITHIN COMMERCIAL SUB DISTRICT ONE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO TO ALLOW THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, UM, IN THE REPORT, THERE IS A RECOMMENDED A RECOMMENDATION TO DISAPPROVED, UM, THE APP TO, UM, ADD FOR ATTEND HEIGHT, UM, TO RESOURCES OR 45 FEET, UM, HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS I'VE HEARD TO THIS MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, AND THEN, BUT OVER, UM, TO, UH, DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS, UM, OF BEING ABLE TO EXTEND THAT HEIGHT.

UM, IF THE COMMISSION, UH, WANTS TO CONSIDER, UM, AN ITEM THREE STORES, A 45 P THE COMMISSION COULD LOOK AT, UM, TYING THAT TO A SINGLE BUILDING.

UM, SO A SINGLE ONE SINGLE STORAGES BUILDING, UM, WOULD BE ABLE TO EXTEND TO THAT HEIGHT IF THEY'RE ONLY INSTRUCTING ONE BUILDING, UM, OR THAT LOCATION, UM, COULD ALL THAT USE INTO FOREIGN LOCATION.

UM, THE APPLICANT, MOST OFFICER ARCHITECT IN THE STORAGE FACILITY, UH, CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DESIGN FEATURES OF TAKING THAT APPROACH CONSOLIDATING INTO ONE BUILDING, UM, AND MITIGATING, UM, FOR ANY, UH, ISSUES, UH, WITH THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OR THE RESIDENCE HOME SIDE, UM, OF THIS BUILDING.

UM, THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, IS, UH, TO TAKE THAT APPROACH.

UM, BUT ITS EXTENDED JUST ONE EMPLOYABILITY AND NOT OPEN ENDED, UM, FOR ANY USE THAT MIGHT BE CONSTRUCTED OTHER THAN, UM, THAT AREA OF MEETING.

SO I'M LOOKING AT SOME, SOME FIGURES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE QUESTIONS OR YES.

THE MULTIFAMILY IN THIS PD, IS IT MF ONE OR TWO MF TWO.

SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE STRUCTURES THAT ARE 45.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

DISTINCT.

SO, UM, THE ONLY FOR THE NON INITIAL ABUSE, THE ONLY VISITATION ON HEIGHT IS REALLY THE AREA OF SOUTH OF LAKE OLYMPIA AND EAST OF, UM, VICKSBURG.

THE PORTION OF THE PD MULTI-FAMILY EVENTS DEVELOPED NORTH OF LAKE OLYMPIA.

UM, CURRENTLY THE PD DOES ALLOW FOR THOSE S TO UP TALLER.

SO WORST CASE SCENARIO THERE, SOME SYNERGY THERE.

YES.

SO I HAVE A HARD TIME FIGURING OUT EXACTLY WHERE THE MINI HOUSE IS LOCATED.

UM, IS IT COMPLETELY FILLING THAT AREA BEHIND THE 7-ELEVEN ON THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE UP ON THE UPPER LEFT SOUTH OF LAKELAND, RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND THEN, SO THE AREA THERE'S LIKE A LOOKED LIKE SOME KIND OF TO

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THE CENTER OF THAT, THAT HIGHLIGHT PROBABLY OR SOMETHING MM-HMM , IT'S THE WHOLE AREA SOUTH OF THAT.

SO IT IS, IT IS THE VERY TOP OF THE FOOT TOUCH TO THAT BOX FUR TO THE RIGHT.

THE FRONT OR LIKE, YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO THE, THE STORAGE WOULD BE PART OF A FLAG WITH THAT NARROW CONNECTION TO LAKE OLYMPIA AND THEN COMING DOWN SOUTH ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN EVERYTHING GOING, UM, TOWARDS PITTSBURGH AND THE INTEREST ENTRANCE WOULD BE A LIVE OLYMPIA PARK.

SO THEY HAVEN'T DECLINED WHERE THE ENTRANCES, UM, SEVEN 11 I BELIEVE HAS AN ENTRANCE YES.

ON MICHAEL VEHICLE WITHOUT BY, UM, ANY OTHER, UH, DRIVEWAYS ALONG THAT SCRATCH, DOES THIS AMENDMENT OR PROPOSAL, IS IT NECESSARY TO HAVE A TRAFFIC REPORT OR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IN THAT AREA? THAT'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY RIGHT THERE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS IF I, WE DO HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ON TOP TO THE EXTENT THAT MAKING CHANGES WILL HAPPEN ANALYSIS, YOU WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT STORAGE HIGH VOLUME, UH, NOT IN TERMS OF VOLUME, BUT THAT CAME RIGHT.

LY TRAFFIC.

SO WE LOOK AT TURNING AND RADI, SO FOUR OR, BUT, UH, TRAFFIC CAN, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT KIND OF STORAGE IS, BUT ANY STORAGE SPECIFICALLY YOU CAN BRING IN 18 WHEEL PACKET.

SO, UM, THAT IS PROBABLY REALLY LIKE TO, AND HAS A REPORT AND EFFECTIVE DRAIN IN THAT AREA.

THE GREG IS ALL BEING ADDRESSED.

UH, YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA CHANGE THE RANGE CAUSE DRAINAGE IS ALL DRIVEN BY THE CONCRETE THAT YOU PUT, WHAT WE CALL THE, SO WHETHER IT'S STORAGE OR NOT, I DON'T ENVISION IT CHANGING A WHOLE LOT.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE CHANGE IN THE DRAINAGE, BUT CERTAINLY ON THE GRAPHIC SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING PRACTICE WITH THESE CHANGES, UH, RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, DO THEY, DO THEY HAVE TO BE CONTACTED OR NOT? SO, UM, LET'S SO PUBLIC NOTICES.

UM, SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIND THE BEST WAY TO COMMUNICATE, UM, HOW THOSE PUBLIC NOTICES WENT OUT.

UM, SO FOR, UH, THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT PUBLIC HEARING, UM, NOTICES REQUIRES TO MAIL TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

UM, SO THIS IS MATTER.

I KNOW IT'S HARD TO GO SCREEN, UM, BUT THERE'S A PRINT COPY OF IT IN THE PACKET.

UM, SHOWING BASICALLY WHAT WE CALL BUFFERS.

UM, SO WE, WE, UM, BROWNISH AREA IS 600 FOOT RADIUS AROUND THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT PLAY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

UH, SO ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, SO THE RESIDENTS AT COME WITHIN, UH, THAT BROWNISH AREA, THE YELLOW AREA, AND SO ON GOING TOWARDS THE SITE AS WELL AS THE NON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, THEY'RE ALL MAILED UNNOTICED, UM, OF THIS OTHER HEARING AND, UM, UH, THE PROPOSED ANY ADDITIONAL OF STAFF.

I'M SORRY.

AM I ALLOWED TO SAY SOMETHING JUST ONE MINUTE START? I KNOW THIS WORKS APOLOGIZE.

THAT'S PUBLIC HEARING JUST ONE MINUTE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY.

WE ARE GONNA MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AFTER WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN WILL HEAR FROM THE, BECAUSE THAT WAY, IF, UH, PEOPLE THAT SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF THEY ASK QUESTIONS, HOPING THE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS ONCE THEY COME.

SO I'LL TAKE THE TWO NAMES FIRST THAT I HAVE HERE.

AND, AND, AND WHEN YOU GUYS GET TO THE PODIUM, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND, AND YOUR ADDRESS SO THAT SHE COULD RECORD INTO THE, OKAY, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS, AND I'VE BEEN 4, 2 27 INLIGHT SINCE 2019.

UM, I UNDERSTOOD

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THIS EVENING THAT THIS WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WOULD BE A STORAGE UNIT AT ALL.

SO OUR DESIRES NOT HAVE A STORAGE UNIT THERE, PERIOD, BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD WHEN WE MOVED INTO THE AREA, THAT WOULD BE SOME AREA SORT OF LIKE AND BE DEVELOPED PLACE FOR COMMUNITY.

AND SO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NEW.

MOST THREE YEARS OLD PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY HAVE INTO THE STREETS.

UM, THEY'VE UM, TALKED TO ONE ANOTHER DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS AND WE WERE HOPING SOMETHING WOULD BE THERE LIKE RESTAURANTS, SMALL BUSINESSES AND COFFEE SHOPS, WHERE WE COULD CONTINUE GATHER IF THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GONNA BE A BIRD STORY ON THIS.

UM, WE DEFINITELY OPPOS THAT.

UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE ONSITE IN THE AREA IS MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE ONE STORE IN THE AREA.

AND SO THEN THAT STICKING OF THAT, EVEN THOUGH THERE'LL BE, UM, SOME MULTIFAMILY THERE, I EXPECT THAT THERE APPRECIATE EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MY NAME IS MORGAN.

UH, I'M STAN NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR LIVE AT 42 31 AND LANE.

ALSO AS OF, UH, TWO, I JUST ECHO ALL OF HIS SENTIMENTS, UH, WEED TO TWO STORAGE FACILITY.

I JUST UN OF IT, UH, POTENTIAL CRIME, UH METLAB AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SOMETHING THAT WE NOT WANNA, UH, YOUR THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THERE'S IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE ASK IS THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS ONCE YOU REACH THE PODIUM.

AND IF YOU KEEP YOURS AT BRING HELLO, HI, MY NAME IS, UH, CHRISTOPHER .

I LIVE 1, 3, 3 YOULAND TERRA LANE, OUR BACKYARD BASELY PARKWAY AND SEVEN 11.

UM, I RECEIVED THIS YESTERDAY.

I'M HEARD NO NOTICE ABOUT THIS.

I WENT DOWN THE STREET, TALKING TO MY NEIGHBORS.

NOBODY'S AWARE OF THE, THIS IS GOING ON.

SO I CAME HERE TO KINDA GATHER CATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

MOST PEOPLE MOVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE MOVED HERE CAUSE IT'S A VERY NICE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S PARKS'S FISHING POND.

THERE'S WHITE TRADES, UH THERE'S UM, LOTS OF CHILDREN SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE TO BE SOME DEVELOPMENT.

WE WERE TOLD BY THE DEVELOPER THAT THERE WAS A SCHOOL PLANT, THE AREA WE'RE NOT TO DEVELOPMENT, BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, I'M GONNA BE LOOKING OUT MY BACKYARD AND MY LOOKING AT THE BACKYARD FOOT BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT THAT, BUT THERE'S ENOUGH TRAFFIC ON LAKE AS IT IS.

WE KNOW WE CAN BRING 18 WHEELERS IN AND EVERYTHING ELSE INTO AN AREA THAT YOU MOVE INTO.

CAUSE IT'S A COMMUNITY AREA.

I JUST MOVED AWAY JUST LAST YEAR FROM BETWEEN FOR TOLL ROAD AND BELTWAY, CUZ ALL THE DEVELOPMENT FROM ALL THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THE TRASH IN DESTROY, WE MOVED DOWN THERE LAST YEAR TO GET AWAY FROM WHAT THIS IS GONNA BE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THIS IS A DONE DEAL.

I KNOW THIS COULD BE STOPPED.

I HAVE ENOUGH CHANCE TO PULL UP MY, UM, OBJECTION TO IT.

I'M PLANNING ON GETTING EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I CAN DO IS NONE OF US KNOW.

AND OBVIOUSLY NONE OF US MOVED DOWN THERE FOR THIS AND NONE OF US WANT THIS, A FOUR STORY WALL LOOKING AFTER ME.

WHEN YOU GO IN YOUR BACKYARD, IT'S JUST NOT WHAT YOU SHOULD JUST SEE IN A RE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS BUILT BY D TO BE A BRAND RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE MOVE DOWN THERE, NOT OUTSIDE THIS THANK HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE THE AND PAUL ABLE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR LETTING US PRESENT TONIGHT.

UH, PART OF OUR REASONING BEHIND HEIGHT, UH, EFFORT IS TO TRY AND CONSOLIDATE ALL OF IT INTO A SINGULAR IS CLIMATE CONTROL, UH, IS MINIMAL TRAFFIC.

I MEAN LIKE I HAVE A PERSONAL STORAGE UNIT.

I

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MAY GO INTO A ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.

UM, PAUL CAN SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BETTER, BUT THERE IS MINIMAL 18 WHEELER TRAFFIC.

UH, IN FACT IT'S QUALITY COUNTED ON ONE HAND, BUT THE PRIMARY REASON IS TO GIVE HIM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE AND PUT EVERYTHING INTO A SINGULAR.

TRUCTURE THE BENEFITS WE SEE IS THE FACT THAT IT IS ABOUT 30 OR SO KEY OFF CROP LINE.

WE WILL BE PUTTING IN WITH, THROUGH THEM.

THE TYPE KEY AREA THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE CITY PARKWAY WILL ALSO BE REQUIRING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IN THERE.

AND AS YOU SAW FROM THE IMAGES, IT IS A FINISHED BUILDING IT'S IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE ALMOST ALMOST AN OFFICE BUILDING WHERE YOU SAW SOME WINDOWS THAT LOOK TO BE LIKE WINDOWS ON THAT IMAGE.

THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT REALLY, IT IS MADE TO CHANGE AND ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE MASS OF THE MASONRY AND OTHER MATERIALS ON THE BUILDING.

THERE ARE NO OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOMEBODY IN THAT BUILDING TO OVERLOOK AND LOOK INTO THE BACK OF SOMEBODY'S PRIVATE GUARD.

SO IT'S IT IS WE UNDERSTAND THE PRIVACY CONCERNS.

THE OTHER BENEFIT OF THE BUILDING IS SINCE IT IS PARALLEL TO THE BACKYARD LINE OF THOSE, THOSE RESIDENCES, IT ALSO WILL ACT AS A NOISE BARRIER FROM THE CONVENIENCE CENTER AND THE INTERSECTION OF VICKSBURG AND PARKWAY AND ADJACENT TO IT.

AND IT ALSO ACTUALLY END UP BEING NOISE BARRIER TO THE NEW RETAIL CENTER.

THAT'S ABOUT THE GREAT GROUND BETWEEN THE CONVENIENCE CENTER AND UM, THE RESIDENTIAL THERE ON LAKE OLYMPIA.

SO CAN I JUST IMMINENT TO BREAK AROUND? SO IT WILL ALSO BE A NOISE BARRIER THERE.

AND SO, AND IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN THEN ANXIETY CAUSE OF ITS LOCATION, IS IT GOING TO INFR ON OTHER ISSUES LIKE ACCESS TO SUNLIGHT? CAUSE AGAIN, IT'S PARALLEL AND IT'S NORTH OF, WE DON'T ANY SHADOWS, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA C CUTTING THAT POINT.

BUT BASICALLY IT IS THE INTENT WAS TO PROVIDE CO CONVENIENT FACILITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MULTIFAMILY.

THAT'S GOING ACROSS THE WAY.

IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER GOING BE DEVELOPED AND BEING DEVELOPED ACROSS THE WAY, UH, AS PART OF PARKWAY.

AND WE THINK THAT BE A GOOD ADDITION AND WE COULD PROVIDE SOME DEFINITE ADVANTAGES TO THE NEIGHBORS, NOISE BARRIER AND TAKE CARE OF NOTING THAT'S QUESTION.

THE COMMISSIONERS MAKE HAVING THIS TONIGHT.

UH, I, PAUL GLOVE, UH, I OWNER SPEAK TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT AND I CAN SPEAK TO CONCERNS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP, THAT I'VE HEARD OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

UH, FIRST COMMENT THAT I'LL ADDRESSES IS, OR WHAT I'VE HEARD IS, IS, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS, NOISE AND TRAFFIC, VERY, VERY QUIET BUSINESS.

UH, OUR TENANTS TYPICALLY COME IN AND PUT THEIR CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS OR THEIR HOLIDAY DECORATIONS OR FURNITURE WHILE THEY'RE BUILDING A HOUSE OR MOM PASS AWAY.

SHE HAD TO STORE FURNITURE FOR WHILE.

SO IT'S VERY, THEY'RE NOT VISITING THE UNITS ARE OUT.

UM, OUR, OUR MAIN EAGLES THAT COME INTO THE PROPERTY DEBRIS ALONG THESE END ARE PARTICULARLY BOX TRUCKS.

THEY'RE 12 TO 16, 18 FOOT BOX TRUCKS.

UM, ON THE RARE OCCASION, WE WILL HAVE AN 18 COME IN, BUT IT IS.

I'M GONNA TELL YOU IT'S LESS THAN 10% OF THE TIME.

IT'S NOT VERY OFTEN.

UH, TYPICALLY IT'S JUST IT .

UM, AS FAR AS THE CRIME GOES, YOU THERE'S, THERE'S A STIGMA ITSELF STORIES THAT I'VE DONE THIS A LONG TIME AND YOU SAILING OR THE CRIME AND IN THIS TYPE OF FACILITY, THIS IS A CLASS FACILITY IT'S GONNA HAVE ALL THE SECURITY FEATURES THAT A CLASS, A FACILITY WOULD HAVE BE CAMERAS THAT WOULD BE ENGAGED

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WITH PERSONALIZED CODES AND ONLY CODE YOU THIS TYPE OF FACILITY.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT SELF STORAGE DOESN'T HAVE CRIME ISSUES IN THIS TYPE FACILITY.

CRIMES USUALLY ARE NOT AN ISSUE.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, 100%, I'VE NEVER HAD A METH LAB.

ONE OF MY STORAGE UNITS, UH, WILL BE NO, AL HAPPENS IN THE UNITS.

PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO WORK OUT THE, THEY CAN CAN'T PLUG IN, TAKE ALL OR, UH, BAND EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING I'VE HEARD IS WE WANT BAND PRACTICE CAUSE THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO PLUG IN.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE LINGERING ON OUR PROPERTY.

WE'RE THERE TO PUT YOUR BELONGINGS IN.

YOU LOCK THE DOOR, YOU KEEP THE KEY WHEN YOU NEED TO GET SOMETHING AND GET IT.

BUT YOU'RE NOT WORKING WITH FACILITY.

AND, AND OUR EMPLOYEES ARE, ARE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT HAPPENS.

UM, THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, IS L IN, AND WE WILL, WE WILL, BASED UPON THE CITY RECOMMENDATION, WE'LL THE LANDSCAPE RECOMMENDATION.

IF WE, IF WE CAN DO THINGS THAT WILL CREATE OFFER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS AND OUR BUILDING, WE WILL DO OUR VERY BEST TO, TO OFFER THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE TREES AND THAT WE CAN PUT IN THAT WILL STILL USE THERE, NOTHING HAVE A WALL.

I CAN'T DO ANYTHING AROUND THE WALL.

WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO, TO BUFFER THAT VIEW WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

AND, AND IF, AND IF I WAS A NEIGHBOR, THE SLIDE THAT HAD THE, UH, TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS, ONE WAS ONE SINGLE STORY.

AND ONE WAS A LOCAL STORY.

I WAS A NEIGHBOR.

I WOULD ACTUALLY, WE WANNA SEE THE SMALLER BUILDING IN THE SINGLE STORY BECAUSE THE, WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WALL, THE ONE STORY THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG WALL AND RIGHT SIDE, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE SMALLER MULTI STORY BUILDING AND THE SINGLE STORY BUILDING BESIDE TO ME, THAT WOULD MORE, BUT THAT'S S MY POINT OF VIEW.

UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE WHEN ASK ANYBODY, ASK ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I ASK THE QUESTIONS.

OKAY, PLEASE.

FIRST OFF, UH, AS FAR AS THE TRUST SIGN, YOU WERE SAYING THAT 18, WHAT HAVE, BUT THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS TOUGH SIGN OF ENTRANCE INTO YOUR STORAGE, SAY, SIGN, NO RESTRICTIONS.

AND AS FAR AS MAYBE THE EXAMPLE OF YOU, WE MOVE IN PERSON LOANS WOULD HAVE BUSINESSES CAN STORE WITHIN YOUR, THAT IS CORRECT.

I UNDERST YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.

BUT WE DON'T PUT BALANCE IN, SO THEIR BUSINESSES ARE USUALLY STORING GOODS OR MERCHANDISED OR SOMETHING, WHATEVER THEY'RE, THEY'RE SELLING SOMETHING OR THEY'RE STORING WE'RE.

AND ARE YOU GONNA PROVIDE KIND SECURITY OR DO YOU PROVIDE ANY KINDA, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PERSONNEL OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE CAMERAS AND LOCAL ARMS AND THINGS WHAT'S IN YOUR OTHER UNIT? CAUSE YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS.

WE DON'T HAVE SECURITY IS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, WE DON'T HAVE SECURITY GUARDS.

WE DO HAVE MANAGERS THAT WORK FROM NINE TO SIX AND THEN THEY GO HOME, BUT THEN WE HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE RECORD UVR.

WE DO THAT.

SOME OF OUR FACILITIES LIKE THAT, WE DID MORE OF OUR 10 AS WELL.

AND I SAYING SOME STORE, SHE THAT PROVIDE TRUST OR PERSONS TO RENT OUT IF THEY'RE GOING RENT OR YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE POINT.

SO ALL THE MAIN ENTRANCE FOR OUR TENANT WOULD BE OFF THE LAKE ACCESS POINT ON THE EXPERT, MAINLY JUST THE, AN EXIT POINT, MOST, MOST TRAFFIC IN AND OFF OF LAKE THE THERE

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THAT, YEAH.

AND PLUS THE FACT THAT ACTUALLY THE LOADING STUFF IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING HAPPENS, NOT IN THE BACK, HAPPENS IN THE FRONT, ANY LIMITED, ANY LIMITED LOCATIONS TO DO.

SO IT'S, IT'S AIM, FIX AIM.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR BOTH OF YOU WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE, UM, FAIR ARE, ARE BACKGROUNDS.

AND SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO OUR ANALYSIS OF, OF, OF A SITE, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY OUR MARKET, A THREE MILE MARKET, YOU KNOW, MOST HOMEOWNERS OR BUSINESS ARE NOT GONNA A MILE AND HALF TO GO TO THE, BECAUSE EVERYONE PASSED ONE, TWO ON THE WAY TO FACILITY.

UH, WE RUN, WE RUN, WE RUN HOW MANY SQUARE FOOT IS IN THE MARKET.

AND AT THREE MILE RADI, WE RUN A DEMOGRAPHIC POPULATION TOWN.

AND THEN WE SAY, OKAY, HOW MUCH SQUARE FEET PER PATH IS IN THE MARKET? AND THIS SIDE, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH STORAGE IN THAT THREE MILE MARKET.

SO IF SOMEBODY DOES GET A STORE UNIT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT, CAUSE EVERYBODY THEY'RE JUST NOT SPACE.

UM, DO YOU, AFTER YOU BUILD THESE, DO YOU OKAY? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHERS THAT ARE LOCATED NEAR US SAY SUGAR LAND, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? PUT SUBDIVISION TO THIS SAID IN DALLAS RESIDE AREA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO, SIR, IF YOU WERE TO DESIGN ONE AND YOU LIVED WHERE YOUR BACKYARD WOULD BE FACING IT, YOU SAID THAT YOU PREFER THIS SINGLE STORY.

SO THE BALL DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AS BIG OR DID I, WELL, I SAID I WOULD, I WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT DESIGN ON RIGHT SIDE THAT I'M LOOKING AT THAT SCREEN RIGHT HERE.

CAUSE OF THAT, THOSE BUILDINGS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ARE SINGLE STORY.

SO THEY'RE NOT HERE NOT HAVING THAT WALL FOUND ABOUT LOOKING AT A WALL, RIGHT.

YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT A WALL THERE, SINGLE STORY.

SO YOUR MODEL IS JUST ONE BUILDING THREE STORIES UP TO 45 FEET TALL.

THE ONE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE.

WELL, I'M, I'M PROPOSING EITHER ONE.

MY FERENCE TO DO ONE PREFERENCE, WHICH ONE? BUT ALSO THE THREE STORY THREE.

YES, SIR.

40 FEET IS REALLY TALL.

YEAH.

WE WON'T.

WE JUST EQUIP AND THINGS LIKE THAT REALLY ACTUALLY LEAST, BUT NOT LESS THAN 30, NOT LESS THAN, YEAH.

WOULD YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE STORE.

YOU NEED ABOUT 10 CLEARANCE INSIDE THE STORE.

OTHERWISE PEOPLE BEEN OVER THEIR HAND, ALSO YOU THE BUILDING, THAT'S ALSO WHY THEY GO TO THE EFFORT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE NOT THE OLD METAL BUILDING STORAGE FACILITIES THAT WERE ALL SO FAMILIAR WITH SOMETHING THAT'S VERY COMPLIMENTARY TO THEIR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE FACT THAT THEY WANT BUFFER IT AND PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE SIR.

YOU, YES, MA'AM.

AND THANK YOU.

UM, IS I'M, I'M DEFINITELY PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, ANY STORAGE AND I, I, I FIRST WANT, UH, SAY THAT I, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UH, AGAIN, I THINK JENNIFER MENTION

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THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE THERE CALLED PARKWAY CROSSING, WHICH IS A PROPOSED MAKES USE DEVELOPMENT.

I SAY, PROPOSED, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING THROUGH IT.

UM, ORIGINALLY I'D SENDING ABOUT 465 ACRES HERE AND SOLD, UH, ALL THE SINGLE THINGS, RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS NOW THE, UH, CAR EDGE, THE DR.

WORK, UM, PROPERTY.

UM, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE SELL THROUGH IN THE VERY SPECIFIC USES.

AND, AND ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, UH, GIVEN THAT IT DOES BACK UP TO SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WE, UH, I MEAN, WHEN WE WALKED THIS LAND, THE EXPERT DIDN'T EVEN COME TO LAKELAND PARKWAY.

LAKE PARKWAY WAS ONLY TWO LANES, UH, THIS QUITE A LONG TIME AGO.

UM, BUT, UH, WE BELIEVE IT'S THE MOST BENIGN USE THAT POSSIBLY HAVE THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE LIKE IT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING WITH CALL AND, AND, AND, AND THE CONTEXT OF THIS SALE.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

AND I HOPE THIS ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT.

ONE, WHEN I SAY MIND DOING THE LEAST NOISE, IF, IF THAT'S AN ISSUE, IF YOU LIVE NEXT TO THEIR NOISE IS OF CONCERN TO YOU.

UM, I THINK MINI STORAGE IS PROBABLY THE LEAST AMOUNT OF NOISE.

FIRST OF ALL, IT CLOSES AT NIGHT.

UM, AND SECOND OF ALL, THERE'S, THERE'S VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC, VERY, VERY FEW CARS THAT COME THROUGH AS OPPOSED TO RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS ARE A DAYCARE CENTER, WHICH WE HAD PROPOSED AT ONE POINT, UH, IN THAT BACK QUARTER THAT WE HAD KIDS RUNNING AROUND AND SO FORTH.

SO NOISE, UH, LIKE THAT WE WOULD RESTRICT, UH, THROUGH R PD.

WE'RE GONNA RESTRICT THE LIGHT.

THERE'S NO LIGHT SHINING IN ANY BACKYARDS OR ANYTHING.

THERE WILL BE, IT'LL BE LOW LEVEL JUST OVER THE ENTRANCES OR CANOPIES FOR PEOPLE COMING AND OUT OF THE BUILDING.

SO AS IF THEY, IF THEY'RE, WE'RE NOT LOOKING UP OVER, UH, THE BUILDING, UM, THEY WON'T BE SEEN LOT SECOND AND THIRD IS, UM, WE ARE REQUIRED AND WE WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, RATHER THE PROPERTY LINE ALL THE WAY AROUND PACKING UP TO THESE HOMES.

SO THEY NOW HAVE SIX FOOT, MAYBE SEE THE FENCES THAT ARE, UH, DETERIORATED, WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT MINIMUM, EIGHT FOOT MASONRY MALL AROUND THERE FOR, UH, PROTECTION.

AND I THINK PAUL MENTIONED THE VISUAL LOOK.

SO IF, IF YOU'RE IN YOUR BACKYARD AND YOU'RE LOOKING UP THAT, THAT OVER THAT WALL, UH, IF THERE'S A TWO STORY BUILDING, IT'S GONNA BE ALL THE WAY SORT OF ACROSS THE HORIZON, LOOKING NORTH, AS OPPOSED TO THE CONCEPT WITH THE THREE STORY, THAT'S GONNA BE LIMITED TO A SMALLER BUILDING WITH ONE STORY THAT THEY'LL NEVER SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO IT'S LESS, UM, IF, IF YOU, IT DOESN'T LIKE THE SUN, THIS IS IN THE NORTH, BUT IT'S LESS VISUAL.

AND THEN THE, THE THIRD THING FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE ON, ON, UH, IS ABOUT SECURITY.

UH, WE ALL ASK ABOUT THAT.

UM, THEY WILL HAVE, UH, GATED, UH, SECURITY GATES AT, AT ANY ENTRANCE TO THIS PROPERTY.

AND THE REST OF IT WOULD BE GATE OFF WHERE THERE IS NO ACCESS.

IT'S THE MOST SECURE, LIKE I SAID, ACCESS, IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT, THERE, THERE WON'T BE ANYBODY BEHIND YOU WHERE IF IT WAS A RETAIL CENTER PACKING UP OR WHERE IT WASN'T PROTECTED, UM, THERE COULD BE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU, BUT AT NIGHT THERE WON'T BE ANY LIKE FOR, UH, ACCESS IS, IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE CODE, YOU GET IN TYPE DEAL THE IMPACT THERE AND THE, YOUR STORAGE UNIT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL, UM, WANTED TO, UH, MENTION, AND THERE IS A 40 FOOT, WE PUT A 40 FOOT, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY ONLY REQUIRES 30 FOOT.

WE PUT A 40 FOOT MINIMUM EFFORT FROM THE WALL.

THAT'S KIND OF NEAR THE PROPERTY LINE TO WHERE THAT BUILDING.

AND I SAY THE WALL, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE EIGHT FOOT NATURE WALL TO WHERE THEIR BUILDING WOULD START.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S BUILDINGS IN WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE BACKYARD WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING UP.

IT'S ANOTHER 40 FEET BEHIND THE TRAILER WALL.

SO, AND THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

UM, AS A SELLER, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS USE AND THAT WE THINK'S THE BEST LOCATION FOR, UM, SOMEBODY MENTIONED ABOUT USE, WE, WE, WE HAVE THE TOWN CENTER CONCEPT.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET MOVING ON THIS, UH, THE TMD PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY.

SO, UH, WE THINK THAT THAT'S KIND A THERE TO THE CORNER.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY REFERENCED SAY HER WAS GONNA BE HERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER AND WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS ON IT.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL THAT TO SAY.

THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SCOTT.

I, I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

YES.

IF, IF YOU CAN ANSWER, IF YOU CAN.

I, I UNDERSTAND, WERE THERE ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, UM, BROUGHT BEFORE YOU FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PLAN BESIDES OF ANY STORE? UM, THERE WAS, AT ONE POINT WE HAD HAD A, UM, A DAYCARE FACILITY THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH AND WE, WE ACTUALLY

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DESIGNED THE SITE FORM, BUT THE FINANCING, UH, FELL THROUGH, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, GOING TO WORK SIDE.

AND I, AND I ALSO, I THINK JEFF MENTION, WE, WE SOLD ABOUT TWO ACRES ON LAKE OLYMPIA RIGHT NEXT TO THE, UM, SEVEN 11.

AND IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT A 16 TO 17,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL CENTER AND THEY'RE PRODUCING RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S KIND OF YOUR, WHAT WE CALL THE TRIPLE AM SIDE, GOING THE WORK SIDE, UH, CURRENT BODY COMING THROUGH THERE.

AND, UH, WE'RE TOLD THAT SEVERAL 11 IS DOING VERY WELL.

THANK, BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY OTHER USE AND A DIALYSIS CLINIC.

AT ONE POINT WE TALKED TO, WE TRIED TO KIND DID IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE IT WORK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? GRIFFIN? I'LL TAKE MOTION MOTION HERE.

UM, HEY JENNIFER, WHAT, UH, HE DESCRIBED THE INSTEAD OF 30, 30 FEET.

HE HAD 40 FEET.

UM, CAN WE PUT THAT IN THE REQUIREMENTS? YEAH.

UM, THE, ADD THAT TO YOUR MOTION, TO THE RECORD, UM, RIGHT NOW SILENT THE ORDINANCE.

SO YOU COULD ADD THAT TO YOUR MOTION AS A RECOMMENDATION.

YES.

SO LET SEE IF I TWO CHOICES UP THERE.

OKAY.

SO SPECIFIC TO THE MINI STORAGE QUESTION, UM, STEP BACK.

SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS AN LC TWO PERMITTED AREA, RIGHT? SO THEY USES LC THREE LC, TWO USE USES LC THREE, AND THEN, UM, THE, UM, HID AREA LC TWO WAS, I WAS READING THE ORDINANCE AND I THOUGHT IT SAID COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT ONE, UM, SHELBY DEVELOPING COURT OF SUBSECTION RETAIL DISTRICT.

OH, IS THAT ONLY THE, THE DESIGN DESIGN? SO AREN'T USE THE SECTION, PROBABLY THAT ONE USE THREE.

YES.

USE THE, UH, USE IS PERMITTED IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS THREE.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT, THAT MAKES IT EASIER, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE COULD BE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THERE.

YES.

RIGHT? YES.

I MEAN LIKE TARGET, RIGHT? YES.

THEY PUT FOR RIGHT THERE AND IT'LL BE UP TO 35 FEET TALL.

MM-HMM YES.

I WAS THINKING L C TWO WOULD PROBABLY WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT YOU COULD HAVE HOTEL, RIGHT? YES.

WITH HOTEL.

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO STORY BUILDING AND THE THREE STORY BUILDING IS WE HAVE A VERY, VERY LONG TWO STORY BUILDING VERSUS A SMALLER, AND I DUNNO, THE DIMENSIONS ARE ABLE TO READ THE DIMENSIONS MAYBE ABOUT HALF THE SIZE THREE STORE BUILDING WITH, WITH A BUNCH OF SMALLER BUILDINGS THAT FROM A, FROM A VIEWPOINT STANDPOINT, WOULDN'T BE SEEN PRETTY MUCH.

I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GET THAT UNDERSTANDING.

THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.

YEAH.

BUT THE OTHER QUESTION IN FRONT OF US IS TO ALLOW THE AT ALL, BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF THOSE THREE OR CORRECT.

AND I, I THINK MAKE THAT DETENTION, SO MANY STORAGE USED AS A PERMITTED USE IN THE LC FOUR DISTRICT AND , AND PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE MANY SOURCE LOCATIONS THAT ARE DROPPED THE CITY PUBLIC STORE LOCATIONS THAT ARE ALL THOSE, THOSE ARE WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS FOR BY REASON.

AND SO THEY'RE USUALLY EMPLOY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.

THAT'S SPECIFICALLY HOW, UH, FOR ADMIN STORAGE USE.

AND IF WE PROVE THIS, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY USE AND ONLY ADDITIONAL USE ABOVE LC THREE COULD BE CORRECT.

AND THEN JUST BE LIMITED TO THIS COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT,

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? SO CAN, SO IF WE WENT WITH THE 40 P AND SO HE, UH, THE OWNER TALKED ABOUT THE DESIGN CALLS FOR 45, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 42, UM, ARCHITECTS, NOT WITH PRIOR IT, BUT HIM SAYING IT, AND HE'S BEEN DOING IT 25 YEARS, PROBABLY A FOOTPRINT THAT HE'S USED TO.

RIGHT.

SO FOR WHEN 40 FEET, AS PART OF A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN NOT TO EXCEED WHATEVER, I MEAN, AREN'T IN TERMS OF VIEW, 10 FEET AND THREE TO FOUR FEET DOWN, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF VIEW, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BACKYARD, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GOING UP, IS YOUR FEET BACK WELL, SO HOW FAR IS IT BETWEEN HERE AND THAT BACK WALL? PROBABLY 30 FEET.

SO 10 FEET PAST THAT.

AND THEN YOU'RE THINKING YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE 10 FEET IS GONNA MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE AT THAT DISTANCE TO ME.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IF YOU CAN JUST PICTURE IT AT 20 FEET, I CAN'T HOW IT'S PICTURE IT ALL.

I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS 20 FEET GEAR, RIGHT? PROBABLY.

OKAY.

I MEAN, A 40 FOOT BUILDING, THAT'S PUSHED AWAY FROM MY BACKYARD BY 40 FEET.

THAT'S NOT AS OVERWHELMING.

UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S ON TOP OF ME AND IF IT'S NOT ACTUALLY 45 CLOSER TO SAY 42 EVERY FOOT AT THAT LEVEL.

AND AGAIN, I MEAN, ALL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS COULD BE A HOTEL.

IT COULD BE SO MANY THINGS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK OUR PERMISS AT ALL.

WELL, THEY WANT TO THE HOTEL THERE THAT STILL BE LIMITED FEET, RIGHT.

CLOSING WINDOWS AND OCCUPY AND THE VIEW.

AND I WAS JUST THINKING IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT TYPE I HAVE AS WELL.

UM, I'M CONCERNED.

AND, AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, NUMBER ONE IS THAT ONE OF THE RESIDENT SAID THAT SOMETHING PEOPLE DIDN'T GET NOTIFICATION.

SO I'M, I'M KINDA NOT REALLY SOMEONE, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTPUT OR COMMENTS.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

UM, NUMBER TWO, UM, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHATEVER, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST GIVEN LIKE YESTERDAY TO LOOK AT AND, AND I JUST THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S SO MAJOR.

IT AFFECTS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, I THINK WE NEED TIME TO, TO REALLY DIGEST IT IN THAT AREA.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA.

AND JUST FROM YOUR EXHIBIT AND WHAT HAVE YOU, I CANNOT SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED.

YOU KNOW, I PASSED THAT AREA EVERY, EVERY DAY AND I CAN'T GET A, A, A PICTURE OF WHERE THE STORAGE IS GOING TO BE THE MULTI, WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND FOR ME, THAT'S MY CONCERN BECAUSE I, I WAS GETTING IT TO THE VARIOUS, SO I COULD DRIVE BY TO GET IT.

WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND NUMBER TWO, I THINK MORE OF PARTICIPATION FROM RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.

IF, IF SOME PERSON SAID THEY GOT IT TODAY, UH, THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, MAIL OUT.

ALSO, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT ATTRACTIVE REPORT HAS NOT EVEN BEEN DONE, AND THAT'S NOT HESITATION.

YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING CERTAIN COMING IN, BUT THIS IS WE AND HAVE SUCH AN IMPACT IN THAT.

I THINK I WAS GONNA INTERJECT THERE.

OKAY.

WE'LL TAKE, WELL, I THINK JENNIFER SENT OUT TO, TO EVERYBODY I RECEIVING, I THINK THE ONLY, AND THE ONLY TALK ABOUT THE NOTICES ANYWAY, THEY WERE SENT TO EVERYBODY.

YEAH.

SO THE NOTICES THEY WOULD, WHAT, UM, I WAS GONNA INTERJECT IS, IS BILL AND MC MORGAN, WOULD THE, OLIVIA SAYS HOA OVER YOUR LAST SEVERAL.

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MONTHSI THE OLIVIA SAID WITH EVERYBODY TO SEE HOA, OLIVIA RESIDENTS THINK THERE 14 AND ACTION ACT UP THERE.

UM, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH SHANNON RO YOUR TRANSFER.

SHE'S THE, THE HOA MANAGER.

MM-HMM , AND WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AND EMAILS, AND I'VE, I'VE BEEN MADE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH BOARD, ALL THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE, UM, TO, TO REVIEW ALL OF THIS.

SO, UM, SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY DIDN'T RECEIVE, UH, I MEAN, I HAD NO IDEA I RECEIVED, IF IT IS EITHER THE RESIDENCE THAT HACK UP TO IT, OR WE OWN PROPERTY AROUND IT, WE RECEIVED IT NOTICES TOO.

SO I, I, I DIDN'T, AND THIS WAS QUITE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, MAYBE.

SO, SO WHAT WAS THIS LADIES COMMENTS? OH, WHAT'S THAT THEY WORKING IN THE BAY ON STORAGE UNIT.

OH, THAT, WELL, SHE NEVER GOT AN ACTUALLY I'M JUST GONNA GO MEET WITH THE BOARD.

THEY, THEY HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING A BOARD MEETING, BUT THEY, SHE DISTRIBUTED IT TO EVERYBODY IN THAT, THAT SHE COULD THAT ASSOCIATION.

AND THEY JUST CAME BACK WITH QUESTIONS SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL ASKED TODAY, AND WE SATISFAC ANSWERED EVERYTHING.

AND SHE SAID, THIS IS GREAT.

SO DOES SHE FAVOR, SHE TELL HOH MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR IS THAT THE HOH PRESIDENT? WELL, SHE'S, SHE'S THE, I SAY PRESIDENT.

SHE IS THE MANAGER OF THE HOA.

SHE'S NOT A RESIDENT, SHE'S THE TRANSFER.

SO THEY'RE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

YES.

AND SHE'S THE ONE THAT ORGANIZES THE DISTRIBUTES INFORMATION.

AND, AND I THINK ORGANIZES THE BOARD MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE.

THEY JUST HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING A FORUM.

APPARENTLY OVER THE SUMMER, WE TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, SHE TRIED TO GET A FORUM OF THE BOARD, BUT SHE MADE SURE EVERYBODY HAD THE INFORMATION AND WE HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS COME TO US FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE ANSWER SO THAT THAT'S ALL WE COULD POSSIBLY DO.

AND I SAID, ANYTIME THEY WANT TO MEET ANYTIME, PLEASE CALL ME UP.

I'LL BRING ALL THE INFORMATION ELSE, TAKE AS LONG AS WE CAN AND MEET WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO MEET ABOUT IT.

AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY CALLS FROM ANYBODY.

AND, AND THE NOTICE OF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE WOULD'VE MET WITH ANYBODY PRIOR TO THIS MEETING IS WHAT WE WANTED TO DO.

I TALKED MANAGER SEVERAL TIMES AND I HAVE EMAILS BACK AND, AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, YOU UNDERSTAND THE COMPANY IS, IS NOT THAT ITALY, THE ONLY CLOSE PERSON FOR THAT COMMUNITY, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH THE HOA PRESIDENT AND THAT BOARD, BECAUSE THAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS HAPPEN, SOMETIMES DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION BECAUSE THE BOARDS, YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT.

AND, AND THE DIALOGUE.

SO, UH, AND THAT, YOU'RE SAYING YOU TALKED WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

THAT'S GOOD, BUT I'M JUST, I THINK I WOULD FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE BECAUSE YOU HAD TALKED ALSO WITH THE HOA BOARD CHAIRMAN AND THEY ARE ALSO APPROVED ON GIVING THEIR APPROVAL OF THIS.

THAT'S AGREE.

I TRIED, I TRIED TO ASK HER, YOU KNOW, TIME, TIME, PLEASE, THAT SHE COULDN'T GET BOARD ME.

I SAID, WELL, JUST CALL UP IN, INFORM ME.

I'LL COME MEET WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO MEET ABOUT THIS.

AND I NEVER, ANYWAY, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

AND I I'VE BEEN, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT STATES FOR SECTIONS ONE THROUGH SIX AND THEN SEVEN THROUGH 11.

AND WHAT ONE WOULD THERE BEEN TO THE COMPANIES? UH, YES.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT FOR COMPANIES, BUT THE ONE THAT IS THE NEWER SECTIONS THAT BACK UP TO THIS IS SECTIONS, UH, 7, 8, 9, 10 TO 11 OR ACROSS THE STREET.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE ANY DISTANCE OF WHERE WE ARE.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION, NOT FOR HIM.

I KNOW THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, BUT I, THE GENTLE THERE, THE WHITE SHIRT, YOU, THAT YOU WERE NOT AWARE THAT IT WAS A STORAGE FACILITY.

I'M THINK THAT IS THIS A BOARD THAT GO, GO AHEAD.

AND I WAS GONNA SAY, R HOA, HASN'T BEEN FORMED YET.

IT'S ONLY A MANAGEMENT COMPANY YET.

CAUSE NOT ENOUGH HOMES IN THE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PERCENTAGE OF THE HOMES IN THERE FOR, FOR US TO BE ACTUALLY ON THE BOARD.

SO THERE'S A OFFSITE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT WILL BE RESPONDING TO THINGS LIKE THIS CAR, NOT THE HOMEOWNER THEMSELVES.

AND SO PLAN ON GETTING ON THE HOA BOARD.

THE MOMENT WE'VE BEEN THAT FOR WHILE, BUT

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IT'S NOT, I DO EXCUSE QUESTION, BUT COME GIVE YOUR ON.

I DID.

SO HE WAS WONDER THAT HE LIVES IN BACK INFOURTEEN I KNOW HIM AND FORMATION.

SO WE WERE VERY, AND I TALKED ABOUT VERY, UH, UH, KEY IN THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY THAT WAS IN AROUND THERE KNEW ABOUT IT.

AND EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO US.

SO WE WERE TALK TO ANYBODY.

SO THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND AND HEAR WHAT THIS GROUP IS PROPOSING TO PUT.

THERE IS A STORAGE FACILITY.

WE ALL HAVE HEARD THAT.

AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PERMITTED USES CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THAT ARE ALLOWED TO GO IN THAT SPACE WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY ARE BEFORE COUNCIL OR ANY OF THAT KINDA STUFF.

I'M GONNA READ OFF A COUPLE OF THEM TO YOU GUYS THAT YOU'LL UNDERSTAND BAKERY CAN BE MANUFACTURING, ELECTRICAL, AND GAS APPLIANCES, SUPPLY SALES, REPAIR, INSTALLATION, FURNITURE, SHOWROOM, OR WAREHOUSE, JOB PRINTING, LOUNGES, MEDICAL CARE FACILITIES, LABS, MOTELS, HOTELS, MOTORCYCLE SALES IN THE SERVICE, INDOOR PAWN SHOPS, PLUMBING AND HEATING APPLIANCES, REPAIRS AND INSTALLATION, RETAIL STORES, TIRES, AND BATTERIES, AUTO ACCESSORY, AND A VARIETY DEPARTMENT AND DISCOUNT STORES UNDER THE LC TWO, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE ALLOWED TO GO ON THIS PARTICULAR LAND.

AM I OKAY HERE? CAR WASH, MEANING THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY TO ASK FOR ANY, ANY OF THESE THINGS.

THEY CAN JUST FILL IT.

CAR WASH, BANK, COMMERCIAL, INDOOR RACK CREATION, DELICATE TEST, AND GROCERY STORE.

AS WE HEARD EARLIER, THE TARGET COULD POSSIBLY GO THERE.

INDOOR GAME PARLORS PACKAGE ISH STORES, OFFICE BUILDING RADIO, TELEVISION, RESTAURANT, CAFETERIA.

AND, AND I WANTED TO JUST READ OFF A COUPLE OF THOSE THINGS SO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT SOMETHING WILL GO THE, THE, THE QUESTION TONIGHT IS, SHALL IT BE A STORAGE FACILITY OR ARE WE GONNA ROLL AND SEE WHAT ELSE COMES HAD SOMETHING? WELL, I MEAN, I THINK YOU AND I HAVE TALKED, IT'S BEEN 18 YEARS.

MM-HMM, , THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OVER THOSE 18 YEARS.

AND WE TRY TO LISTEN TO THE, OUR NEIGHBORS AND PUT TOGETHER THE BEST FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN WITH THE LAW THAT WE HAD WITH THE CITY.

AND OURS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION.

WE DO THE INTERVIEWING AND WE TAKE ALL THE DATA AND THEN WE RECOMMEND FOR CITY COUNCIL.

AND YOU CAN GATHER EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO BE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE OCTOBER 17TH AND LET THEM HEAR YOUR VOICE.

OURS IS A RECOMMENDATION BASED UPON THIS MEETING AND, AND TALKING, OKAY, EVERY STORAGE FACILITY OVER THE PAST 18 YEARS HAS GONE IN, YES, NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE A BIG BALL IN DIRECT CAR, BUT IT'S A STATIC BUSINESS.

THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

WE DON'T HEAR THE COMPLAINTS AFTER IT GOES IN.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SELL THE IDEA OF STORAGE FACILITY, BUT THAT LIST IS REAL.

WE WANT A HOTEL THERE.

WE CAN'T PREVENT THAT.

WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN SOME FRAMEWORK TO MAKE IT BETTER, BUT THERE IS NO PERFECT.

THERE'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THERE THAT ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS DOESN'T LIKE, AND WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT HAVING A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE UH, ANYWAY, I'D LIKE THEM TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

UH, I WANT TO PUT TOGETHER WHAT STAFF IS SAYING, EXCEPT INSTEAD OF TURNING DOWN THE 45 FEET, WE REGULATE IT TO ABOUT 42 AND THEN WE FORCE, UH,

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WITH A RECOMMENDATION THE 40 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 30 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

SUCH MOTION.

YES.

THAT'S MOTIONS.

OKAY.

WOULD, WOULD YOU REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME? AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, SO WE COUNSEL WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FOLLOWING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, EXCEPT FOR THE PIPE THAT THEY SAY TO NOT ALLOW, BUT WILL ALLOW IT AT 42 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 45.

UM, AND THEN HAVE THE BUILDING LINE START AT 40 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 30 FEET, UH, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

THAT'S MY WE'VE HEARD MR. O'S RECOMMENDATION IS THERE, CORRECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. DISCUSSION.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSS TRYING MR. CLARIFICATION, IF THIS PARTICULAR, THE MOTION IN NUMBER FOUR, UH, AND WE WILL VOTE ON THAT MOTION.

IS THERE ANY WAY IN WHICH THE MOTION YOU COULD ALSO, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT ALL MEMBER PROCEDURE, UH, IS THERE MOTION WHERE WE COULD TABLE THIS OR DOES THAT MOTION HAVE TO BE LOADED ON AND THEN MOTION TABLE? WELL, WE'RE INSIDE THE MOTION RIGHT NOW.

SO, SO CAN ORDER FOR JOHN'S WOULD HAVE TO ENTERTAINED WHAT IS, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE ON THIS MATTER? SO BASICALLY SINCE MARSHALL CAN'T ACT ON IT, UNLESS THEY RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE, UH, THIS COMMISSION, RIGHT.

UM, SO THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, BE RECOMMENDATION TO DISAPPROVE.

IF YOU RECOMMENDATION OF LEARNED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DATE OF THE APPLICATION, AND THEN, THEN WE HAVE TO ACT ON IT.

SO, UH, THE ACTING ON IT IS REALLY, UH, AS, UH, JOE MENTIONED, HE'S SPELLING THE PROPERTY.

UH, SO IT HAS SOME DUE DILIGENCE, UM, PERIODS IN THERE CONTINGENT ON THE OUTCOME OF THE ZONING.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY A AMOUNT OF TIME, UM, THAT BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND THIS PARTICULAR, UM, THAT BUSINESS PASS, UM, TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE THE TIMETABLE, UM, WOULD COME IN.

UM, THEY PRESENT IT, UM, THEY THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW.

UM, SO, UH, THEY'RE, UH, LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THIS WILL BE A POSSIBILITY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, UH, THE TIME SCHEDULE FOR CLARIFICATION ON A TABLE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE JUST CEASED.

IT WOULD JUST BE A PAUSE.

CORRECT.

SO YOUR QUESTION AGAIN, IF THE, IF A TABLE IS LOADED ON THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WILL BE CEASED MEANS IT WOULD JUST PUT A PAUSE ON IT.

CAUSE YOU WERE PRESENTED TO COUNSEL OR YOU WOULD NOT, AND IF YOU WOULD NOT, AND THEN BY NOT PRESENTED IT TO COUNSEL, THERE WAS A PAUSE.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AT THAT POINT CONSIDERATION OF THE SELLER OF POLICY? YEAH, THE, THE PROCESS IS SUB THINGS.

OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE TABLE QUESTIONS, MM-HMM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT'S REQUESTED, UM, IN THE REPORT, IT GIVES ABOUT A WEEK, TWO WEEKS PROVIDE RESPONSE TO KEEP IT ON THAT OCTOBER 17TH TIMELINE.

BUT IF THE COMMISSION TABLE SAID, OF COURSE, TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION, THE EARLIEST IT COULD COME BACK, UM, WOULD BE OCTOBER, UM, P Z, BUT HE COULD COME BACK.

I'M SORRY.

IT COULD COME BACK IN OCTOBER.

IF, IF IT IS TABLE, THEN HAVE TO COME BACK.

WELL, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE TIMELINE THAT THE DEVELOPS I'M NOW AS A LICENSE REAL ESTATE BROKER LINE, THE SELLERS SELL IT PROPERLY X AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO THAT'S THAT TO CONSIDER HOW YOU GO AMA, BUT THAT HAS, THAT'S A HUGE FACTOR.

HOW MANY FEET WOULD THIS BE WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT? IS, IS THAT IN HERE? HOW MANY FEET WOULD THE BUILDING BE SEPARATED? SO THE MOTION

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INCLUDES 40 FEET.

SO THE, UM, THE MINIMUM THAT, THAT BUILDING COULD BE IN CLOSE HEART TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, ONE GOING BE 40 FEET.

IF THIS MOTION, UM, IS RECOMMENDED IN BEFORE THE MOTION FAVORED, I, WE HAVE TIME.

YEAH.

OH.

UM, SO IF THERE'S A TIE THAT THE STATUS OR YOU NORMALLY SAY THE STATUS QUO PREVAILS, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION, BASICALLY THE MOTION FAILS.

THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE MOTION, MOTION, SUBMIT COUNCIL.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND DISCUSSION ALL JUST IN COUNCIL AND CHOOSE MY ACCEPT FOR NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

I WOULD RECOMMEND MEET YOUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO COMMUNITY.

AND I WOULD RECOMMEND RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK AND WHAT HE'S SAYING, CITY COUNCIL RESPONSE TO.

AND SO ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGED YOUR OCTOBER, OCTOBER.