Jan 11, 2023 Planning & Zoning Commission

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IS EVERYBODY READY? YES.

HI.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

UM, I GUESS EVERYBODY'S HERE EXCEPT MR. SILVA.

AND, UH, SO MOVING ON,

[a. Consider approving the minutes of the December 14, 2022, Planning and ...]

SO MOVE.

OH, I GOTTA HIT MY BODY MOTION THAT SECOND.

OH, YOU DON'T, HE DOESN'T HAVE THE OPTION TO MAKE A MOTION ON HIS SCREEN.

I CAN DO IT.

I SEE THE MOTION.

I'M, I'M TRYING TO SECOND IT FOR SOME REASON, UH, HE CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION BECAUSE HIS SCREEN DOESN'T ALLOW HIM TO MAKE A MOTION.

IT'S CUZ SEAT FOUR IS NOT ASSIGNED.

IT SAYS YOU SERIOUS? I'M SERIOUS.

NO.

HOLD ON.

JOHN, THIS ONE'S GOT YOUR NAME ON.

OH, SO THIS HERE COMMISSIONERS? YES.

I'M ABOUT ONE COMMISSIONERS ON YOUR ROLL CALL.

GRACE IS CHECKING YOU IN.

UM, SO IF YOU CAN HOLD OFF ONE SECOND.

UH, SHE'S GONNA CHECK EVERYBODY IN TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT YOU HAVE, THAT I HAVE, THIS ONE'S GOT JOBS.

THAT'S GOT, YEAH, THAT'S MIGHT GO ON TO THE RIGHT OR LEFT.

THEN THEY SWITCH.

I KNOW, RIGHT.

BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

OH, THIS ONE'S GOT MY NAME ON HERE.

YOU'RE NOT HERE, JOHN.

AND THIS ONE HAS, WE'RE, UH, EXPERIENCING MINOR TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

HOLD.

YOU CAN USE THAT ONE.

OKAY.

NOW GUYS SHOULD HAVE THE FUNCTION.

NOW.

IT'S STILL NOT THERE.

NOT THERE.

WHAT? SO I HAVE ON THE BOTTOM, IS IT? OH, IT'S LIT UP.

GOTCHA.

I DON'T, GOTCHA.

OKAY, LET'S, LET'S NOT LET THE TECHNOLOGY KEEP US FROM MOVING ON.

COULD SOMEBODY ELSE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION PLEASE? IF IT HAS TO BE ELECTRONIC, WE ALL HAVE THE SAME ISSUE.

YOU WON'T, MINE'S NOT RESPONDING.

EVEN IF THEY MAKE MOTION, WELL THEN WE WILL DO IT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, I DO HAVE ONE MINOR UPDATE.

UM, THE, UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN OR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE MEETING SAYS MR. TURNER, CHAIRMAN TURNER ENDED THE MEETING.

THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

OH, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS YOU COMMISSIONER.

THAT WAS ME.

SO IT WOULD BE VICE CHAIRMAN.

OKAY.

WELL, I SHOULD HAVE SAID MR. CHAIRMAN.

NO, NO, I'M STILL THE VICE CHAIRMAN.

WELL, NO, YOU STILL SITTING CHAIR MINE SAYS JEREMY, YOU'RE A CHAIR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

WE CAN'T VOTE EITHER.

AYE.

ANY NAYS? ANY ABSTENTIONS? ABS ABSTENTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.

WE'LL, CAN YOU REPEAT WHO MADE THAT MOTION? UH, THE SECOND, UH, MR. O'MALLEY MADE THE MOTION.

MR. GRIFFIN MADE THE SECOND.

THANK YOU.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITHOUT THE TECHNOLOGY.

UH, MOVING ON COMMISSION REPORTS, UH, CHAIRMAN AND THE PLANT CHAIR OF THE PLANNING CO AND ZONING COMMISSION.

WE DON'T HAVE ONE, UH, AS THE VICE CHAIR.

I, UH, I HAVE NO REPORT.

UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY REPORTS? I THINK, JENNIFER, YOU WELCOME THE, THE NEW MEMBERS AND EVERYTHING WHENEVER YES, YOU SPEAK.

OKAY.

UH, SEEING NINE,

[1. Director]

DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? YES.

GOOD EVENING.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

UH, UH, WELCOME, UH, TO OUR MEMBERS HERE AT THE DIOCESE.

UM, WE, UH, HAVE THE PLEASURE OF DOING ORGANIZATION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS WITH YOU AND WE KNOW, UH, THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED AND DEDICATED, UH, RESIDENTS.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD, UH, TO YOUR INPUT, UM, ON THIS COMMISSION.

SO WELCOME, UH, TO YOUR FIRST MEETING.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JEFFREY FONEY, DISTRICT B HERE, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SAY A FEW WORDS AS WELL.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? GOOD EVENING.

HOW ARE YOU GUYS? GOOD EVENING.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE FAITHFUL, UH, FEW THAT, UH, HE HELD IT DOWN BEFORE YOU HAVE THESE NEW COLLEAGUES OF YOURS THAT ARE HELPING TO GET THIS WORK DONE.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AT CITY COUNCIL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE AND WILL DO.

ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, THIS COMMISSION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY AS FAR AS OUR GROWTH AND OUR, UH, SUSTAINABILITY.

AND SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU FOR PUTTING IN THE WORK AND THE HOURS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DECISIONS THAT YOU ALL MAKE, UH, ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF MISSOURI CITY.

SO THANK

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I JUST WANTED TO PERSONALLY DO THAT HERE AT THE START OF 2023 TO LET YOU KNOW, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GREAT THINGS.

GOD BLESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYTHING ELSE, JOHN? NOT FOR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MOVING ON.

UH, CITY

[1. City Engineer / Public Works Director]

GOOD EVENING.

UH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M SHAHI KABAR, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND CITY ENGINEER.

UH, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS.

I THINK I'VE MET MOST OF YOU.

I TAKE THIS MOMENT TO INTRODUCE, UH, OUR NEW ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER WHO WILL BE BY AND LARGE ATTENDING THIS, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND REPRESENTING THE CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE HERE, UH, AND ASSISTING YOU MOVING FORWARD AS WELL.

MARCUS SNELL.

HE COMES FROM THE STATE AGENCY TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

UH, HE HAS REPRESENTED A PRIVATE FIRM BEING A CITY ENGINEER FOR A SMALL CITY OUT OF SAN ANTONIO.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD WELCOME, UH, MARCUS SNELL AS WELL AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, ITEM SIX.

UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

ITEM

[A. CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEM ONE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE SHOPS AT OYSTER CREEK.

ITEM TWO, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR C VILLAGE OF BEES CREEK, SECTION 31.

ITEM THREE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF C MAINTENANCE F FACILITY.

ITEM FOUR, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF BEVERLY WOOD SUBDIVISION CHAIR.

UM, IT'S BEEN NOTED, UH, I THINK WE SKIPPED PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I HEARD YOU.

OKAY.

I THINK WE MAY HAVE HAD SOMEONE SILENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR 8 81.

OKAY.

NOT GENERAL COMMENTS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

CORRECT.

WE WANNA SPEAK ON A, AN ITEM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S A CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, UH, UH, TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

GO AHEAD AND SAY WHAT YOUR MOTION IS, PLEASE.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NONE.

MOTION PASSES.

UM,

[B. PARKLAND DEDICATION]

CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR PARKLAND.

DEDICATION FOR BEVERLY WOOD.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO OUR NEW MEMBERS AS WELL.

UM, SO SECTION 82 DASH 1 74 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES REQUIRED THAT ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OVER FIVE ACRES PROVIDE PARKLAND DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY.

UM, AND SO WE RECEIVED A PLAT APPLICATION FOR BEVERLY WOOD SUBDIVISION.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES.

IT SITS, UM, JUST SOUTH OF CARTWRIGHT ROAD OVER, UM, BY THE INTERSECTION OF CARTWRIGHT IN, UM, COLUMBIA BLUE.

THE PROPOSAL IS ABOUT 37, UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

THE CODE OF ORDINANCES WILL REQUIRE A 0.37 ACRE, UM, PARK LINE DEDICATION, BUT THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED CASH IN LIEU OF, IN THE AMOUNT OF $51,800 THAT WOULD, UH, GO TOWARDS PARK ZONE NUMBER SEVEN.

SO THIS WAS PROVIDED TO THE PARKS BOARD ON JANUARY 5TH, AND THEY PROVIDED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ONE.

MR. VICE CHAIR ALSO MOVE, GO AHEAD AND STATE WHAT THE MOTION IS, PLEASE, THAT WE WILL ACCEPT, UM, ON SEVEN B ONE OF BEVERLY WOOD PARKLAND.

DEDICATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, ACCEPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE, UH, ONE QUESTION, AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A CLARIFICATION.

I'LL, UH, CHARTER TO BEING THE NEW GUY, UM, FOR THE, THE, THE CASH CHANGE INSTEAD OF A PART IN THE PARTICULAR ZONE YOU REFERENCE.

IS THAT STILL IN THE SAME ZONE THAT THE BUILDING WILL HAPPEN OR, YES.

OKAY.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

YES.

TYPICALLY THE CASH IN LIEU OF GOES TO THE ZONE THAT SUBDIVISION.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WENT BACK IN THERE.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, SO WE HAVE A MOTION

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

UM, ONE OTHER TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

YES.

UM, WHEN WE SWITCHED TO THE DISPLAY TO SEE THE PRESENTATION, WE SEE GRACE'S SCREEN INSTEAD OF THE DISPLAY.

YEAH, .

IT'S JUST THE VOTING SCREEN, WHICH WE'RE NOT USING WELL, BUT, UM, I'M, I'M LOOKING ON SCREEN.

SOME COMMISSIONERS CAN SEE IT, BUT IT'S SOMETIMES, BUT YOU CAN DIFFICULT, YOU CAN'T SEE THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

WELL WE WILL MOVE ON.

UM, UH,

[(1). Public hearing to receive comments for or against a request by Keith W...]

A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR YES.

PREP PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENT FOR AGAINST A REQUEST BY KENNETH WEAVER ON BEHALF OF YES.

PREP FOR AN U SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE LOCATION OF A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SCHOOL, AND TO THE EXTENT SUCH ZONING DEVIATIONS FROM THE FUTURE IN LAND USE AND CHARACTER MAP OF THE CON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PLAN TO PROVIDE FOR AN AMENDMENT THERE FROM.

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

UM, SO I BELIEVE STAFF WILL MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION FIRST.

YES.

THANK YOU.

SO AS YOU STATED, WE DID RECEIVE A ZONING APPLICATION, UM, FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SPECIFICALLY FOR A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CHARTER SCHOOL.

THE SUBJECT SIDE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF, UH, BELTWAY EIGHT AND MCLEAN BOULEVARD.

UM, THE SITE PLAN PROPOSED, PROVIDES A TWO STORY 73,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, UM, WITH AN OUTDOOR BASKETBALL PAVILION IN A PLAYGROUND.

SO THIS APPLICATION WAS INITIALLY PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION ON JULY 13TH, 2022.

AT THAT TIME, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO HOLD OFF ON PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL UNTIL THE DEVELOPER, UM, PRODUCED A T I A AND SUBMITTED IT TO THE CITY'S ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR REVIEW.

UM, SO SINCE THEN, UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A T I A AND IT HAS GONE UNDER REVIEW VIA THE CITY'S ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

SO CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION ADOPT THIS AS ITS FINAL REPORT AND PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES.

THE, UM, THE TIA, WAS IT BASED ON THE ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION OR ON THE NEW CONFIGURATION WHICH WAS BEING PRESENTED? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY WERE DIFFERENT ON THE, I BELIEVE ON THE NEW CONFIGURATION.

OKAY.

UM, ENGINEERING, WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS? UH, SUDDENLY AGAIN, UH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

UH, JUST WANNA RECAP AND GIVE YOU, UH, A SYNOPSIS OF WHERE WE WENT.

UH, THE LAST TIME THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSIONS.

THERE WAS A LOT QUESTION ABOUT OR CONCERNS ABOUT STACKING ON MELANIN AND POTENTIALLY OLD FLOOR TRAFFIC ON MELANIN OR THE BELTWAY COLLECTOR STAFF MET WITH THE APPLICANT.

SCOPE THE SCOPE OF THE T I A MET WITH OTHER RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS, WHICH IS OUR FIRE STATION DEPARTMENT INTERNALLY, BECAUSE THIS WAS RIGHT, PROPOSED RIGHT ACROSS THE FIRE STATION.

SO THE WAY THE STAFF WANTED TO APPROACH THIS WAS TRYING TO MOVE THE PRIMARY ACCESS OFF, OFF INTO BELTWAY RATHER THAN ON MELANIN.

THERE IS STILL AN ACC ACCESS SHOWN OFF OF MELANIN THAT'S PRIMARILY FOR BUS TRAFFIC, NOT FOR PASSENGERS THAT WOULD DROP OFF THE VEHICLE.

I THINK WHERE WE, UH, THE REASON WHY, UH, ENGINEERING IS MAKING A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION IS THIS SCHOOL IS LOOKING AT AN ENROLLMENT OF THOUSAND STUDENTS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOUSAND STUDENTS, AND BASED ON OUR CRITERIA, THE STACKING THE DISTANCE THAT'S REQUIRED, THAT EQUATES TO CLOSE TO ABOUT 4,500 LINEAR FEET OF STACKING, UH, IN THE CONFIGURATION THAT'S SHOWN HERE, ROUGHLY THEY CAN, UH, WITH THE TWO-LANE CONFIGURATION, THEY CAN DO ABOUT 2,500.

UM, THAT IS THE REASON STAFF PROVIDED THE NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

THIS WAS ABOUT, UH, WEEK AGO, UH, PREPARING IN HEAD OF THIS P AND C MEETING.

BUT SUBSEQUENTLY, WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE IS WITHIN THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION, TRY TO MAKE IT A, FROM A TWO-LANE TO A FIVE LANE, FIVE LANE TO A BACK TO A TWO-LANE CONFIGURATION WHERE THEY CAN MEET THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL STACKING, WHICH IS CLOSE TO 4,500 FEET WE BELIEVE.

ALTHOUGH THEY CAN THEORETICALLY SHOW THAT ON, ON THE DRAWING PLAN.

BUT TO HAVE THAT OPERATIONALLY AND, UH, IMPLEMENT THAT OPERATIONALLY IS GONNA BE VERY CHALLENGING.

AND THE, THE REASON FOR OUR NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION

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UH, SHOULD THERE NOT BE ENOUGH STACKING BASED ON THE ENROLLMENT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SPILLOVER TRAFFIC POTENTIALLY INTO THE BELTWAY FEEDER OR INTO MELANIN.

AND THAT IS THE REASON WE'RE DOING NOW.

IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF OR CAPTAIN NUMBER OF ENROLLMENT TO A LESSER NUMBER, UH, POSSIBLY THIS CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ENGINEERING? UH, SORRY.

MR. BAILEY HAS A CO, UH, QUESTION.

YEAH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.

YEAH.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHEN, UH, WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, HOW DID THIS COMPARE TO THE ONE CONDUCTED FOR, UH, SONNO BASHAR ELEMENTARY? THEY'RE ON THOMPSON'S FERRY BECAUSE AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, U NEAR ELKINS, THAT'S JUST A NARROW TWO-LANE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ROAD AND, AND I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS HOW, HOW WERE THEY ABLE TO RESOLVE THIS SAME ISSUE OF STACKING, BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS A STUDENT POPULATION OF ABOUT TOSON.

GREAT QUESTION.

YEAH, SO JUST CURIOUS.

THE STACKING LENGTH THERE IS APPROXIMATELY, MY TRAFFIC ENGINEER ADVISES ME THAT IT'S ABOUT 1600.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAS COME UP TOO.

NOW THAT SCHOOL SERVES THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, ROUGHLY ABOUT TWO MILES SQUARE AREA.

THIS YES.

PREP SCHOOL AS A SERVICE AREA OF ABOUT 28 SQUARE MILES.

SO YOU CAN POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, IN A SCHOOL LIKE SONAL, BACHAR ELEMENTARY, YOU COULD SEE A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS WALKING.

UH, THERE WOULD BE A LESS NUMBER OF TRAFFIC.

BUT HERE, SINCE IT SERVES A WIDER NETWORK, WHICH IS ABOUT 28 SQUARE MILES, THE POTENTIAL FOR TRAFFIC IS MORE HERE.

SO THAT IS WHY IT'S NOT AN APPLE TO APPLE COMPARISON.

UH, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S AN, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SERVING A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS, UH, A KIND OF A CHARTER SCHOOL SERVING A BIGGER SERVICE AREA, SO TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF ENGINEERING OR STAFF? THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UH, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WOULD, UH, LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT.

HELLO.

HOW YOU DOING? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

MY NAME IS NELLA GARCIA URBAN AND I AM THE CHIEF EXTERNAL OFFICER AT YES PREP PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THAT MEANS THAT I LEAD A TEAM OF INDIVIDUALS THAT REPRESENTS THE THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES THAT WE SERVE AND ST STRIVE TO CREATE ALIGNMENT ABOUT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO EXTERNALLY AT.

YES.

I WANNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND THAT, THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO RECONSIDER A POTENTIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

YES.

PREP PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS A PUBLIC CHARTER SYSTEM.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE GREATER HOUSTON AREA FOR 25 YEARS, AND IN THIS COMMUNITY OVER A DECADE AT OUR YES PREP BRAS OAKS CAMPUS WHERE WE HAVE SERVED THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS, WE HAVE OVER EIGHT GRADUATING CLASSES.

WE HAVE AN OVER 95% GRADUATION RATE.

THAT CAMPUS IS ALSO NATIONALLY RANKED.

IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST PERFORMING SCHOOLS IN THE GREATER HOUSTON AREA, AND IT SERVES STUDENTS AND FAMILIES FROM SO MANY OF YOUR COMMUNITIES.

HUNTERS, GLEN, HUNTERS GREEN, FONDREN GROVE, QUAIL GREEN, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR FAMILIES IS THAT THEY WANT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE HAVE SIX OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

YOU OBVIOUSLY SEE A RENDERING HERE, AND WE HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME SUPPORT IN THE ROOM.

I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF ALL OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC.

IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME ON WITH OUR FAMILIES, WITH OUR LITTLE ONES, WITH OUR STAFF.

AND SO WE WANT TO HONOR AND BE GRATEFUL FOR THE FEEDBACK HERE AND FIND A WAY TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND WE DO HAVE OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION HERE TO ENGAGE IN HOW WE CAN COLLABORATE ON THAT POINT.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE MAKE GOOD, BECOME GOOD STEWARDS OF PUBLIC FUNDS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS TO USE THOSE AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH OUR CLASSROOM RESOURCES.

AND SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD THE BEST SCHOOL THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.

WE RUN SIX OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTEXT AROUND HOW TO DO THIS WELL.

AND OF COURSE, OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE, THE STUDENTS THAT WE SERVE THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN, HISPANIC, IN THESE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE OUTPERFORMING THEIR PEERS IN SO MANY WAYS BECAUSE THEY'RE ATTENDING A SCHOOL.

IT'S

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THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, LET'S, OH, GO AHEAD.

OH, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR ME.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, THIS IS MY SECOND TIME IN FRONT OF SOME OF YOU AND I HOPE YOU REMEMBER ME.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, SIR? OH, SURE.

IT'S KEITH WEAVER.

I'M THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN FOR YES, PARK PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

I'VE BEEN IN CHARGE OF THE DESIGN GROUP THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTING TO THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN MAY OF 22, AND WE WENT BEFORE THE GROUP AND DID A PRE-MEETING TO GET ALL THE THINGS LISTED THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PRESENT IN ORDER TO COME TO THIS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A SUB PERMIT, SO A SPECIAL USE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AT THE TIME WAS THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC OF TRAFFIC ON MCCLEAN BOULEVARD.

AS THE CITY ENGINEER SAID, WE MADE THE TRANSITION TO MOVE EVERYTHING TO BELTWAY A FEEDER SO THAT ALL OF THE PARENT TRAFFIC COMES IN AND GOES OUT ON THAT PARTICULAR ROUTE.

THE ONLY THING THAT ENTERS OFF OF MCCLEAN IS A APPROXIMATELY A CATEGORY OR CONTINGENCY OF BUSES, APPROXIMATELY SIX THAT WOULD GO IN AND OUT THAT FAR GATE TWICE A DAY.

SO WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT AND WE WENT THROUGH 10 ITERATIONS AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH FROM THE TIME WE DID THE ORIGINAL SCOPING MEETING TO THE LAST SUBMISSION THAT IS POSTED UP ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW.

UH, SO YES, PREP HAS SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE CITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE BEST SAFETY PRACTICES THAT WE COULD TO DO SO.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PROUD OF WHAT WE DO.

WE WORK CONTINUOUSLY WITH OUR STAFF AND OUR CHILDREN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING AS SAFE AS WE CAN THAT IMPACTS THE OUTER BOUNDS OF OUR PROPERTY, MAKES THINGS SAFER FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.

THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DRAWING THAT'S ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW HAS ALL OF THE ITEMS REQUIRED TECHNICALLY TO MEET ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT THE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED OF US.

SO THERE ARE NO OTHER ISSUES.

WE ARE DOWN TO THE STACKING PIECE AND WE'VE BEEN NOTICED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT THEY HAVE CONCERNS WITH US MERGING THE LANES.

NOW WE USE STAFF TO MERGE THOSE LANES.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE DUTY STATIONS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE CAMPUS AT ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES, ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS.

SO WE'RE GLAD TO MOVE TOWARDS A SAFE AND A STACKING CAPABILITY THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS, IS REQUESTING.

IT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, BUT WE'RE WE'RE WILLING TO GO THAT DIRECTION, EVEN AT A COST OF 1.1 MILLION BECAUSE THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE FROM WHERE WE STARTED AT A 2000 QUEUING LINK, 2000 LINEAR FEET.

WE'RE NOW AT THIS PLAN SHOWS 4,800 LINEAR FEET, THE REQUIREMENTS, 45 OR SO, SOMEWHERE RIGHT ALONG IN THERE.

SO WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT PARTICULAR STACKING LINK.

UH, I WANT TO THANK THE PARTICIPATION OF BOTH THIS GROUP AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR PARTNERING WITH US AND GOING THROUGH AND RUNNING, RUNNING IT TO THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION.

BUT I'M AT A POINT NOW AND WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY, WE'RE WILLING TO COMMIT TO IT AT THIS LEVEL.

BUT I WANT THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO SHARE IN THE RESPECT AND THE PASSION THAT WE HAVE FOR SPENDING PUBLIC FUNDS.

OKAY.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S BIG MONEY.

UH, WITH THAT SAID, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THOSE 10 ITERATIONS.

THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORTH NOW, WHICH EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION

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WE'VE ADDRESSED THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MCCLEAN AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE FIREHOUSE BEING ACROSS THE STREET.

WE'VE PUT EVERYTHING TO BELTWAY EIGHT.

SO WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION, UH, VOTE FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT THIS EVENING AND PASS US ON TO CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND TIME.

THANK YOU.

UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS? GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

I GUESS I'VE, I'VE GOT A, A QUESTION.

UM, THE DRAWING WE HAVE UP HERE SHOWS IT LOOKS LIKE A STACKING DISTANCE OF 25 44 Y YOU'VE MENTIONED A DIFFERENT NUMBER.

YES.

THE 20, I'M NOT SURE WHICH DRAWING THIS ONE WAS PULLED FROM.

IT'S FROM YOU GUYS'S SUPPLIED IT.

SO IN THE, WELL, IT'S ALSO HAND, IT'S ALSO IN THE PACKAGE THAT YOU WERE HANDED OUT TOO.

OKAY.

ON A HANDOUT, IT SHOULD BE 4,812 LINEAR FEET TOTAL.

YEAH.

THIS IS THE FIVE LANE STACKING VERSION, WHICH IS 48 12.

RIGHT IN THE, THIS BOTTOM PART RIGHT HERE.

THE LAST ONE.

THAT'S THE FIVE LANES.

I SEE.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IN OUR PART.

AND THAT'S, WELL, IT IS THE VERY LAST PAGE.

OH, IN THIS PACKAGE? YEAH.

I'M LOOKING AT, THERE'S, I THINK ALL 10 ITERATIONS ARE IN OUR PACKAGE.

YEAH.

WELL THIS IS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A COPY OF IT IF WE NEEDED IT.

SO I DIDN'T, WASN'T SURE OF THE PRESENTATION THAT THE OKAY.

PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WAS GONNA DO.

UH, COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON? YES, GOOD QUESTION.

YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I HAVE, UM, TWO QUESTIONS JUST IN THE, REALLY BASED OFF OF WHAT OUR CI CITY ENGINEER HAD SPOKE ABOUT PRIOR TO YOUR COMMENTS.

UM, THE FIRST ONE, WAS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE ITERATIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE, UM, THAT WOULD POSSIBLY LOOK AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION TO SATISFY THE NEEDS THAT THE CITY ENGINEER HAD OUTLINED? AND THEN SECONDLY, AND THAT WOULD BE A WIDER QUESTION.

SECONDLY, WAS THERE ALSO AN APPETITE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE ENROLLMENT CONCERNS THAT THE CITY ENGINEER HAD OUTLINED PREVIOUSLY? YOU WANNA TALK? I CAN TALK ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT.

YEAH.

UM, SO GOOD.

THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE A TEACHER VOICE.

SO, UH, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE ENROLLMENT, UM, QUESTION AT, AND WE, OUR MODEL FOR ELEMENTARY IS AT THAT THOUSAND SEATS, AND THAT IS REALLY BASED ON OUR UNDERSTANDING AND WORK WITH OUR FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR DESIRE FOR AN ELEMENTARY OPTION THAT FEEDS THEM INTO OUR YES.

PREP BRAZE OAKS SECONDARY CAMPUS, MID AS IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED A TRANSITION TO MIDDLE SCHOOL.

IT'S A BIG TRANSITION.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE BUILT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IS BECAUSE OUR FAMILIES WANNA ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT PIPELINE TO THAT COLLEGE READY EDUCATION AND SECONDARY.

SO WE HAVE A CONCERN THAT TO MOVE TO SUCH A SMALLER MODEL THAT REDUCES OUR CLASS SIZES AT THE PRE-K ALL THE WAY THROUGH FIFTH GRADE LEVEL, WHICH WILL JUST IMPACT SO MANY FEWER STUDENTS.

AND WHAT WE FOUND AT ALL OF OUR OTHER SITES IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE TO THAT THOUSAND SCHOOL MODEL, AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP PIPELINE ALL OF THOSE FAMILIES INTO A REALLY STRONG SECONDARY SCHOOL.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS GIVEN WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT WOULD BE SUCH A HUGE DEPARTURE FROM THE COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE MADE TO OUR FAMILIES.

WE ADDRESS LIKE OUR ELEMENTARY FEEDER PATTERN FACED ON WHERE OUR FAMILIES ARE ASKING US FOR A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

AND WE FOUND REALLY STRONG SUCCESS WITH THE FIRST SIX.

OUR SECONDARY SCHOOLS ARE OBVIOUSLY INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.

WE'RE ONE OF THE HIGHEST PERFORMING SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE ENTIRE GRADY HOUSTON AREA.

AND, UM, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA STAY COMMITTED TO GIVEN THE COMMUNITY NEED.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

YEAH.

UM, DID YOU WANNA ADDRESS THIS OTHER QUESTION? I, YEAH, I NEED YOU TO REPEAT THAT QUESTION.

YEAH.

AND, AND I'LL CLARIFY IT AND BE MUCH BRIEFER.

I WAS CURIOUS, SO I RECOGNIZE THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.

SO WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY, JUST BASED ON THE STACKING ISSUE THAT OUR CITY ENGINEER MENTIONED, WAS THERE, AND IT MAY BE IN, IN THIS SECTION HERE, ONE OF YOUR 10 ITERATIONS.

DID IT HAVE A SPACE THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE BASED ON WHAT HE HAD OUTLINED THERE, THERE IS ONE THAT, WELL, THIS ONE EXCEEDS THEIR REQUIREMENT.

OKAY.

THE STACKING LENGTH, THE, THE STACKING CURRENTLY FOR THE SITE IS ABOUT 4,500 LINEAR FEET AS STATED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.

WE HAVE THIS ONE DESIGNED AT 4,800.

SO WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT 4,500 LINEAR FEET OF STACKY.

OKAY.

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YEAH.

ARE YOU ASKING IT, DID THEY CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION FOR THIS SCHOOL? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

THAT WAS THE QUESTION I BELIEVE HE'S TRYING TO ASK.

OKAY.

WE, WHICH WE DID A SEARCH FOR LOCATIONS OR PROPERTIES THAT WOULD MEET THE CRITERIA OF A A EIGHT ACRE SITE.

UH, JUST VARIOUS THINGS AND THE LOCATION TO WHERE OUR STUDENTS PARENTS WERE REQUESTING US TO BE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

UH, WITH YOUR OTHER ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES, ARE ANY OF THEM IN A SITUATION WHERE THE SAME ISSUES WE'RE HAVING HERE WITH THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, UH, WAS THAT THE CASE WITH ANY OF THE OTHER ONES? EVERY ONE OF THE OTHER ELEMENTARIES HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS OF CREATING A T I A FOR EACH SITE AND US DEVELOPING A PROGRAM AROUND IT.

WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS OUR STACKING CAPABILITY AT OUR, OUR SECONDARY SCHOOLS ALSO HAVE A THOUSAND STUDENTS IN THEM AS WELL AS THE ELEMENTARIES THAT WE DO.

AND THE SITUATION, SORRY.

THE SITUATION IS, IS THAT WHEN WE DO THAT T I A AND WE'VE GONE IT, GONE THROUGH IT WITH THE CITY OF HOUSTON AND HARRIS COUNTY AND A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND EVERY TIME THE STACKING COUNT HAS ALWAYS WORKED OUT TO BE SOMETHING SOUTH OF 2000 LINEAR FEET.

WELL, LET, LET ME, LET ME BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC.

YES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A SCHOOL ON THE BELTWAY.

THE CLOSEST LIGHT IS AT 90.

SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TRAFFIC TO BUILD UP MOMENTUM BEFORE THEY GET TO THE SCHOOL.

MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT KIND OF FALL WITHIN THAT SCENARIO? YES, SIR.

WE OPERATE ONE EVERY DAY.

IT'S ON THE SOUTH LOOP BETWEEN M L K AND CHAW CRENSHAW OR CHRIS CRESTMONT.

C I'M SORRY.

UH, SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S THE OLD PARK, YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS? FINGER FUNCTION.

I KNOW WHERE IT IS TOO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT, THAT ONE HAS BOTH A SECONDARY AND AN ELEMENTARY ON THE SAME SITE ON 16TH, BUT THERE'S A LIGHT, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, AT CRESTMONT.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE, THE AMOUNT OF DISTANCE TO BUILD THAT MOMENTUM FROM A SPEED STANDPOINT OF VIEW FOR THE TRAFFIC.

THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.

YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE OF THE DISTANCE FROM CRESTMONT TO I GREW UP IN THAT AREA.

I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH IT.

OR THE DISTANCE FROM 90 TO MCLEAN BECAUSE THERE'S A LIGHT AT 90 AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, I WILL MAKE ONE COMMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, PLEASE UNDERSTAND WE CAN ONLY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY A COUNCIL.

THEY MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION IF THEY DECIDE THAT, THAT IT'S THE RIGHT TO CALL.

I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

UM, AND THAT'S FOR THE AUDIENCE TOO, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE PROCESS.

UM, SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND SO WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

YES, WE DO.

THANK YOU.

AT FIRST I'D LIKE TO READ TWO LETTERS THAT WE RECEIVED.

THE FIRST IS FROM ASHLEY WU AT 1 23 11 GREEN TRAILS DRIVE.

SHE SAID SHE'S IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT BECAUSE SHE SUPPORTS PUBLIC EDUCATION.

THE SECOND COMES FROM GLORIA PACHECO, ALSO ON GREEN CHERYLS DRIVE, AND SHE'S ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT BECAUSE SHE SUPPORTS EDUCATION AND IS NOT WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

WE DON'T HAVE COPIES FOR THESE, BUT WE'LL PASS 'EM DOWN SO YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT THEM.

AND THE FIRST CITIZEN WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IS JEANETTE LEY.

AT LEAST IT'S ONLY MY TWO MINUTE ALLOTMENT OR WHATEVER IT IS.

I'M JEANETTE QUIMBY.

I LIVE AT 11,814 SOUTH WILLOWDALE CIRCLE IN FOND PARK, WHICH ABUTS THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY MAKE A COMMENT CONCERNING THE TRAFFIC AND THE COMMENT THAT MR. PEARSON FROM CRESTMONT SIGNAL LIGHT TO THE SCHOOL, IF YOU GO BACK AND LIZ, HE TALKS ABOUT MOMENTUM.

THAT SIGNAL LIGHT AT EIGHT IN HIGHWAY 90 ON THE FEEDER ROAD IS BELOW THE LE STREET LEVEL OF WHERE THE SCHOOL COMES OUT.

SO AS HE DISCUSSES THE MOMENTUM COMING UP FROM THAT LIGHT, IT WOULD BE A BLIND SPOT.

ONCE YOU

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SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AT SIX 10 AND THE ONE HERE ON PROPOSED AT BELTWAY EIGHT, THE MOMENTUM IS A BLIND MOMENTUM, UH, FROM FEEDER ROAD COMING OFF OF 90.

SO YOU DO RUN A RISK OF ACCIDENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YES, PREP FOR LISTENING TO US AT THE LAST PROPOSAL THAT WE WERE HERE.

I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS IN REDESIGNING AND MOVING ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR THIS SCHOOL.

I SAY THANK YOU TO STORY NORI FOR THE PROPOSAL ON THE RECOMMENDATION ARE NOT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SCHOOL.

IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC, THERE WERE OTHER AREAS THAT THE SUBMIT BY MR. MS NOR MADE AGAINST THE PROPOSAL FOR THE SCHOOL.

AGAIN, OUR LARGEST CONCERN IS TRAFFIC STACKING OF THE CARPOOL PICKUP LANE IS ONE THING, BUT EVEN WITH THAT ENTRANCE BEING WITHIN X NUMBER OF YARDS TO THE ENTRANCE OF MCLEAN AND THE SUBDIVISION IN THOSE WAREHOUSES, AND THEN THE MOMENTUM OF COMING OFF OF HIGHWAY 90 ON AN UPHILL RAMP TOWARD THAT SCHOOL, I CANNOT TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF NEAR MISSES WE'VE HAD WITH PEOPLE GUNNING IT AS WE'RE TRYING TO EXIT.

JUST TO COME UP THAT, THAT UPHILL.

SO AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC, THIS AS MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S IN APPLES TO ORANGES.

THE FLATNESS ON SIX 10 TO CRESTMONT IN THAT SCHOOL IS A WHOLE WORLD DIFFERENT THAN COMING UP 90 ON THAT BELTWAY.

EIGHT FEETER GOING UP TOWARD GASNER.

SO THANK YOU.

I WON'T BE AS MOUTHY AS I USUALLY AM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GLORIA LUCAS.

HELLO.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU.

GLORIA LUCAS FOND PARK.

I WANNA POINT OUT THOSE TWO YOU READ THAT DOESN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, THAT ARE NOT FUND PARK RESIDENTS.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I AM A FUND PARK RESIDENT.

I'M ALSO ONE OF THE H O H BOARD, UM, MEMBERS, BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, FUNDER PARK IS NOT WELCOMING THIS, UH, THIS WILL COST A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND HINDRANCE TO US THAT AREA THERE DID, I'M SORRY, DID YOU FIND IT? I'M SORRY.

THAT AREA THERE AT THE BELTWAY AND, UH, MCLANE, THAT IS THE M EXIT THAT OUR SUBDIVISION, THE RESIDENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION GO IN AND OUT IN THE MORNING.

I CAN HONESTLY SAY, AS MS. QUIMBY SAID, THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

I CAN SAY I'VE BEEN A VICTIM OF BEING HIT, UH, ONE MORNING, UH, ON MY WAY TO WORK, JUST SITTING THERE AT THE STOP SIGN.

UH, YOU HAVE NOT, THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FROM TECH DOT YET.

WHO WOULD MAKE THE DETERMINATION IF THEY WILL PUT A, UM, A DRIVEWAY THERE OFF THE BELTWAY? THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT BEING SHARED.

LIKE MS. QUIMBY SAID, THERE'S A LIGHT RIGHT THERE AND THERE'S A HILL.

SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THAT.

UH, OUR SUBDIVISION FROM MCLANE UNTIL YOU GET OVER THAT HILL, WHICH A LOT OF TIME IS TOO LATE, THIS IS RIGHT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM OUR FIRE STATION.

WHY WOULD WE WANT TO PUT OUR RESIDENCE IN JEOPARDY OF AN EMERGENCY BY HAVING BUSES PARENTS LINED UP AND THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS ARE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT? WHERE WOULD THEY MOVE TO? LIKE MR. HANEY OR SOMEONE SAID THAT IS A TWO LANE, A NARROW LANE AT THAT.

SO THERE'S NO SPACE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL, UH, LANE TO IT AT ALL.

UM, SHE MENTIONED THE PARENTS THAT WANT IT THERE.

NONE OF THOSE PARENTS ARE IN FUND PARK.

SO, UH, NONE OF THE PARENTS ARE IN FUNDING PARK THERE.

UM, DID YOU FIND A POINTER? YOU DIDN'T.

IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.

I HAVE TO WORK WITH HER.

I WAS TRYING TO GET A POINTER.

CAN WE GO BACK TO THE MAP? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT NO, NOT, YEAH, THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT BEING MENTIONED, IF YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN WHERE IT SAYS CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, THAT LITTLE OPENING THERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT SHARING WITH YOU, THAT IS A STREET THAT IS CALLED WHAT WE CALL MCLANE TURNAROUND TRAFFIC IS COMING IN AND OUT THERE TRYING TO GO THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION AND TRYING TO GET ON THE FEEDER.

SO THAT'S TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE, WHICH YOU WOULD SEE, EXCUSE ME, MS. LUCAS, WHERE THEY HAVE

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EXCUSE ME, MS. LUCAS, YOUR THREE MINUTES TIME IS UP.

CAN I NOT HAVE MORE MINUTES? THEY HAD 15.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK? THEY HAD 15 OR 20 MINUTES AS THE APPLICANT, THEY ARE ABLE TO PRESENT WHATEVER'S NEEDED.

THAT'S BEEN OUR, OUR PRACTICE.

GO AHEAD AND FINISH UP PLEASE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, THAT IS A STREET TO TURN AROUND WHERE YOU SEE THE TWO DRIVEWAY BUS ENTRANCE THERE.

THAT IS WHERE THE FIRE STATION IS LOCATED.

TELL ME HOW WERE THE FIRETRUCKS, THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS GET OUT? I DID A LITTLE, UH, RESEARCHING THINGS MYSELF.

IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.

IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.

UH, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE TRAFFIC THERE IN OUR SUBDIVISION.

OF COURSE, EVERYBODY IS IN A HURRY IN THE MORNINGS TRYING TO GET OUT TO WORK.

THAT IS THEIR PRIMARY EXIT BECAUSE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET RIGHT THERE ON A B UH, BELTWAY AND HEAD TO WORK.

PLEASE DON'T HINDER US.

A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE COMING HERE INTO OUR SUBDIVISION ENCROACHING ON US ARE NOT RESIDENTS.

SO WE DON'T NEED THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

WE DON'T NEED MORE TRAFFIC GOING ON.

WE HAVE THE ELDERS AND SOME OF OUR SENIORS AND NEIGHBORS WALKING THEIR PETS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BELTWAY.

SO THIS DEFINITELY WILL CREATE A PROBLEM.

THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL TIME.

THANK YOU.

WAS THAT ALL THAT SIGNED? YES, SIR.

UM, THIS IS A, A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WASN'T ALREADY REINFORCED OR STATED, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, ALL THIS IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? UM,

[(2). Consider a final report and recommendation to Council on agenda item 8...]

UH, EIGHT A ONE.

UM, MR. VICE CHAIR? YES, SIR.

I, I MAKE A MO I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MY MOTION WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THE, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL ON THE SPECIFIC USES PERMIT.

88 2.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES.

UH, ON THE STAFF REPORT, THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

YOU MENTIONED THE TRASH DISPOSAL WHERE YOU HAVE A DISAPPROVAL THERE, CORRECT? YEAH, I'M, I'M SORRY, I PROBABLY SHOULD ASK THAT WHEN YOU FIRST PRESENTED.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, IT'S OKAY.

CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.

UNDER I DON'T C TRASH DISPOSAL REGULATIONS SAYS DISAPPROVE THE LOCATION.

YES.

IN OTHER LORD, YOU HAD SOME OTHER ISSUES, NOT JUST PARKING.

NO.

YEAH, THERE WERE SEVERAL ISSUES WITH THE PROVIDED SITE PLAN.

OKAY.

AND THAT DIDN'T GET RESOLVED.

I MEAN, AS IT STANDS NOW, YOU STILL DISAPPROVE OF CORRECT.

WITH THE PROPO.

OKAY.

YES.

AND I THINK YOU HAD ONE OTHER THING YOU DISAPPROVED OF, UM, AND SIGN, I'M SORRY, DEFENSE AND SIGN, UH, UH, THE DEFENSE AND SIGNS YES, THE SIGNS I WAS GETTING THERE, BUT THANK YOU.

YES.

SIGN REC REQUIREMENTS DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED SIGN DESIGN, CORRECT? YES.

THE PROPOSED SIGN DESIGN, UM, I BELIEVE WAS A MONUMENT SIGN.

UM, FOR THE SPECIFIC LOCATION THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING IT, IT WAS, IT WOULD BE TOO LARGE AND WOULD HINDER, UM, SITE DISTANCE.

OKAY.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THE PARKING, THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT YES.

SO IN THE STAFF REPORT SPECIFICALLY, UM, I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE GO INTO DETAIL, UM, IN THE INSTANCE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

SO WE GO INTO DETAIL ON THE DIFFERENT, UM, DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, UM, TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT, UH, PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO LET'S SAY THAT YOU WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING THE S E P, THEN IN THE STAFF REPORT WE DO ALREADY HAVE THE REGULATIONS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TRASH DISPOSAL, ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES, LANDSCAPING, FENCING, ET CETERA.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND THE MOTION IS TO ADOPT THE REPORT AS PRESENTED IS TO ADOPT THE REPORT NOW.

AND MAY, THAT'S A QUESTION I HAVE FOR THE VICE CHAIR.

THERE'S ISSUE OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND THEN THERE'S, THIS IS THE FINAL REPORT.

IS THE FINAL REPORT SAYING, IN FACT, WE WOULD NOT GRANT THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

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THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I INTERPRET IT.

I MEAN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I I THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.

SO THE REPORT'S BASICALLY RECOMMENDATIONS DO NOT GRANT THIS S U CORRECT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO I'VE, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION.

SO THE DRAWING THAT WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED FOR THE STACKING REPRESENTS THE LOWER NUMBER.

WHERE DOES THIS NEW DRAWING FIT IN THIS RECOMMENDATION? IS IT PURELY BASED ON THE, THE EXISTING DRAWING THAT WAS IN OUR PACKAGE, OR DOES IT TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL? CORRECT.

SO WHAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE PACKET WAS THIS EXISTING, UM, CONSENSUAL SITE PLAN, WHICH WAS THE INITIAL STACKING OF THE 2,500.

THE, UM, SITE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED LATER ON WITH THE 4,500, UM, CAME AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION, UM, JUST TO SHOW THE INSTANCE THAT THE DEVELOPER DID TRY TO WORK WITH, UM, ENGINEERING'S RECOMMENDATION.

UM, BUT INEVITABLY ENGINEERING'S RECOMMENDATION IS STILL THAT IT WOULD BE A FAILED, UM, INTERSECTION AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES.

SO IT WOULD STILL NOT, THEY CAN STILL NOT PROVIDE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THE T I A.

OKAY.

DOES IT, DOES THAT DRAWING ALSO PRESENT ON THE OTHER ISSUES WITH THE LAYOUT? CUZ IT'S, LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF THAT EMPTY SPACE BETWEEN MCCAIN AND THE BUILDING AND IT'S NOW PARKING OR CORRECT.

SO YEAH, WITH THE UPDATED SITE PLAN, UM, WITH THE 4,500, UM, DISTANCE STACKING, THAT ACTUALLY TAKES UP A MAJORITY OF THE SITE.

SO IT COULD PROVIDE FOR, UM, ISSUES LATER ON AS FAR AS DETENTION AND DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS, UM, COME BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, UH, THOSE CALCULATIONS DO COME FROM IMPERVIOUS COVER.

SO THE MORE PAVEMENT WE HAVE, THE MORE REQUIREMENT.

AND SO, UM, THOSE ISSUES COULD COME INTO, INTO PLAY LATER ON.

BUT THOSE ISSUES WOULD, UH, BE RESOLVED AT THE PLATTING PROCESS.

UM, SO IF YOU GUYS DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD ABOUT ACCEPTING THE S SEP, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO PLOTT AND AT THAT POINT, UM, WE WOULD'VE TAKEN IN A DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS AND OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WOULD REVIEW THAT.