[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER.
[a. Consider approving the minutes of the February 8, 2023 Planning and Zo...]
MOVING ON ITEM THREE MINUTES.ANYBODY? CARRIE LAKE, MAKE A MOTION.
OH, HE'S NOT? NO, HE SAID HE WAS GONNA BE HERE.
COMMISSIONER BAILEY'S NOT HERE.
AND SECOND, GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES.
I NEED A FATHER BORROWING HIS PEN.
IS THAT AN OLD ONE OF THINGS TO COME?
NOW MOVING ON, UH, COMMISSION REPORTS.
UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO REPORT ON? SEEING NONE.
[a. Development Services]
WILL MOVE ON TO DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.UM, I JUST WANT TO, UH, REPORT ON YOU JUST A FEW THINGS, UH, SO WE CAN CHANGE THE SLIDE.
WANNA CALL THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR THE ZONING CASE THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
UM, WE HAVE GONE BACK TO POSTING SIGNS ON PROPERTY, SUBJECT TO ZONING.
UM, AND SO, AND THAT'S PART OF THAT CONTINUED OUTREACH, UH, TO PROVIDE NOTICE, UH, TO THE PUBLIC THAT, UH, A PROPERTY, UM, HAS BEEN FILED, UM, FOR A ZONING ACTION.
SO THIS IS WHAT OUR SIGNS LOOK LIKE.
UM, TWO SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, AND WE, UM, INTEND TO CONTINUE TO POST SIGNS ON PROPERTIES, UH, THAT WOULD BE POSTED, UH, AS THE MAIL NOTICE GOES OUT.
SO THAT'S ABOUT TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING.
THEY WOULD REMAIN ON THE PROPERTY THROUGH, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, SO IT WOULD BE POSTED ON THOSE PROPERTIES FOR, UM, ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF, UM, OR, UH, GIVE OR TAKE, UM, A WEEK OR TWO.
UM, SO THAT IS, UH, ANOTHER OUTREACH THAT WE ARE, UH, SEEKING TO DO.
SO IF YOU DO SEE IT OUT THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW, THE PUBLIC KNOW, UH, THAT'S THE INTENTION OF THAT SIGN.
IF YOU SEE ON THAT SIGN, THERE'S A QR CODE.
UM, AND IF THEY SCAN THE QR CODE WITH THEIR PHONE OR A CAMERA, UM, DEVICE, IT'LL TAKE THEM TO THE CITY'S WEBPAGE.
AND IF WE CAN SCAN, UM, THAT WE HAVE SET UP, UH, THERE'S A ZONING PAGE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, UH, THAT HAS SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASE.
UM, AND IT ALSO HAS COPIES OF THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING, UM, IN THE TEMPLATE PROTEST SUPPORT FORM, UH, THAT WE SEND OUT, UH, TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 250 FEET.
UM, SO ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE, GET MESSAGES OUT, UM, PULL INFORMATION, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC.
UH, SO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, WANTING TO HEAR FROM THE COMMISSION AS WELL, UM, ON OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO ENGAGE OUR PUBLIC, UH, ENGAGE OUR RESIDENTS, ENGAGE OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, ON, UH, LAND USE, UH, SITUATIONS THAT MIGHT INVOLVE THEM.
SO, ANY FEEDBACK SO FAR? UM, WE WILL FIND OUT.
UH, SO WE DO KNOW, SO WHEN THIS NOTICE WENT OUT, UM, IT WAS ALSO SENT OUT TO THE HOA.
UH, SO WE DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE, UH, WRITTEN, UH, COMMENTS THAT YOU RECEIVED, UM, WAS AS A RESULT OF THAT HOA UH, SUBMITTING INFORMATION OUT, UH, TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND HOPEFULLY, UM, ALSO AS A RESULT OF, UH, THE PUBLIC SEEING THAT SIGN IS POSTED.
AND SO I HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE OF ITEMS, UM, WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION.
STARRY AND I, UH, WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THE TEXAS CITY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION OF REGION SIX, UM, MEETING THAT THEY HAD ON FRIDAY.
AND THE SIGNIFICANCE, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION IS, IS THAT, UH, WE WERE INVITED TO ATTEND TO TALK ABOUT MISSOURI CITY'S EXPERIENCE IN ADOPTING THE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT ORDINANCE.
UM, SO FOR THOSE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE NEWER, UM, UH, WHO YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE IS TOMMY KIRKENDAL, HIS WIFE, RONDA KIRKENDAL, TOMMY KIRKENDAL, FORMER MAYOR OF FULCHER.
UM, HIS WIFE, RHONDA KIRKENDAL, WHO, UH, WORKS WITH THE FORT BEND, UH, DA'S OFFICE TASK FORCE FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
UM, THEY HAD APPROACHED CITIES WITHIN FORT BEND COUNTY,
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UM, ON A REGIONAL APPROACH, UM, TO COMBAT ILLICIT MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS, UH, THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING PROSTITUTION, UH, WAS SHOWING UP IN.UM, SO, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES THAT YOU MIGHT SEE THAT HAVE MIGHT GENERIC MASSAGE, UM, THEY MIGHT HAVE TINTED OUT, BLACKED OUT WINDOWS.
UM, DIFFERENT FEATURES, UH, THAT, UH, SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES WERE SETTING UP AS LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES GOING THROUGH THE LEGITIMATE PERMITTING PROCESS.
UM, BUT WERE COVERS FOR ILLICIT BUSINESSES.
UM, SO THE FORT BEND, UH, DA, UM, OFFICE WITH THE KIRK AND DOS APPROACHED MISSOURI CITY LAST YEAR, UM, ASKED IF WE COULD CONSIDER, UM, A ZONING TOOL THAT WILL HELP, UM, US TO BE ABLE TO SHUT THOSE BUSINESSES DOWN IF THEY'RE FOUND TO BE OCCUPIED OR TO BE OPERATING IN, UM, AN ILLEGAL MANNER.
UM, AND SO WE WORKED WITH THEM.
WE, UH, CREATED A POLICY, UH, WITH THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, CAME BACK BEFORE YOU SEVERAL TIMES, UH, TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
AND, UH, THE OPTION FOR MISSOURI CITY WAS AN OPTION THAT WOULD NOT BE ONEROUS, UM, ON OUR LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SELF, YOU KNOW, CARE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, REAL SPAS, MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE A PROCESS, UM, THAT WOULD CREATE A BURDEN OR HASSLE TO THEM, UH, GOING THROUGH WHETHER IT WAS A PERMITTING PROCESS OR OTHERWISE.
UM, SO WE TWEAKED, UM, WHAT THEY WERE PRESENTED TO US A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, UM, WERE DOING.
AND, UH, CITY, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING PASSED IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR.
CITY COUNCIL PASSED THE ORDINANCE IN, UM, AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.
UM, SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE BEEN ABLE, UH, TO STOP AT LEAST THREE, UM, MASSAGE BUSINESSES THAT, UH, CAME THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
AND BECAUSE OF THE, UM, ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS ON SITE PLAN REVIEW, UH, THAT WERE REQUIRED, THEY OPTED, UH, NOT TO CONTINUE, UM, BUT, UH, THEY WERE NOT LEGITIMATE, UM, IN, IN HOW THEY APPROACHED, UM, THE CITY.
UM, SO WE SEE THAT AS A SUCCESS.
BUT NONETHELESS, UM, MISSOURI CITY WAS HIGHLIGHTED, UM, BECAUSE WE TOOK AN APPROACH THAT, UH, WAS SPECIFIC TO MISSOURI CITY, UM, THAT CAN BE EFFECTIVE.
AND NOW WE'RE BEING USED AS A MODEL, UM, FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES IN FORT BEND COUNTY, IN THIS REGIONAL EFFORT.
SO, LONG STORY
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, UM, THAT WITH THE COMMISSION, UM, AS WELL.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, UM, QUICKLY, IS THERE A SPOT WHERE I CAN RAISE MY HAND? IS THAT A INTERRUPTING ON THERE? JUST SO I CAN, YOU KNOW, OBSERVE PROPER PROTOCOL? THERE SHOULD BE A BUTTON ON YOUR SCREEN.
AND I WILL READ THAT SHEET THAT YOU GAVE ME.
THE SECOND THING, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.
UM, ARE THOSE SUCCESS STORIES, UM, PUBLISHED ELSEWHERE ON OUR PLATFORM? SO THE CITY AT LARGE CAN HEAR ABOUT THAT.
JUST WANTED TO KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO KIND OF PACKAGE UP, UM, TO SHOW, BECAUSE THE WHOLE POINT OF ZONING, THE WHOLE POINT, YOU KNOW, LAND USE TOOLS, THINGS LIKE THAT, IS TO SHAPE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WANT TO BECOME, YOU KNOW, SO THE, THE TOOLS THAT WE USE SHOULDN'T BE USED, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AS A, YOU KNOW, BURDEN, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HIT PEOPLE OVER THE HEAD, BUT REALLY SHAPING THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO IN.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
UM, AND THEN IT'S ALSO AN EXAMPLE OF WORKING, YOU KNOW, ACROSS OUR BORDERS.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IN MISSOURI CITY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE IMPACTED BY WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, IN OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AS WELL, YOU KNOW, SO OUR ABILITY TO WORK, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR, OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES WORKING ON SOLUTIONS AND LAND USE, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN BENEFIT US ALL.
SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, NO, WE DON'T HAVE IT, UH, OUT THERE, BUT WE'LL WORK ON OUT ME TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
UM, IT'S TRAINING SEASON TIME
UM, WHAT I WANT TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW IS WE HAVE ALSO PURCHASED THIS PACKAGE THAT'S AVAILABLE, UH, TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, THEY'RE ABOUT THREE TO FOUR HOURS, UH, TOTAL IF YOU WANNA SIT AND WATCH 'EM ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, JUST TO KIND OF GET, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING ON THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, AND KIND OF, UM, HOW, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL, UH, ORGANIZATION, UH, SEES THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION, UM, IN CREATING LAND USE LAWS, SHAPING LAND USE LAWS.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE THIS AVAILABLE.
WE'LL PUSH A LINK OUT TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, WE CAN ALSO MAKE IT AVAILABLE IN-HOUSE IF ANYONE WANTS TO WATCH IT IN A GROUP.
UM, WE CAN PROVIDE SNACKS, UM, AND, UH, DO A GROUP, UH, SESSION ON IT.
UM, EITHER ANYWAY, THAT, THAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT, BUT THIS ISN'T A TOOL THAT'S AVAILABLE.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, ACCESS TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT TRAINING, UM, VIDEOS, TRAINING RESOURCES.
SO IF YOU EVER HAVE A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A PARTICULAR TOPIC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
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LET US KNOW AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF WE HAVE A VIDEO, UM, OR WEBINAR OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, UH, UH, TO YOU FOR THAT.SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
I ATTENDED ONE IN OCTOBER ON MY FIRST TIME HERE, AND IT WAS, WELL, VIRTUALLY, I DID IT VIRTUALLY CUZ THEY WEREN'T GOING THERE.
AND THAT EVEN ON TOP OF WHAT I ALREADY KNEW, THAT THAT WILL BE THE STATE.
YEAH, THE STATE, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS A AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION CHAPTER.
UM, AND SO, UH, WE USUALLY HAVE THE STATE CONFERENCE IN THE FALL, SO IT'S USUALLY IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER OF EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND WE INVITE THE, THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AS WELL.
AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL.
I KNOW, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'VE ATTENDED VIRTUALLY, UM, THEY'VE BEEN DOING HYBRIDS SINCE THE PANDEMIC.
UM, BUT, UH, IF IT'S, YEAH, CLOSE BY.
I THINK THIS ONE IS IN FORT WORTH.
WHERE'S, WHERE'S THIS ONE? IN FORT WORTH? NO, IN CORPUS CHRISTI.
AND SO, BUT IT'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO NETWORK, MEET OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UM, AROUND THE REGION.
SO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, UH, WILL HAVE COMMISSIONERS THERE AND YOU'RE ABLE TO INTERACT IN, UH, UH, DISCUSS, UH, DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH THEM.
SO IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY, WE'LL PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION AS WE GET CLOSER, UH, TO THAT.
UM, BUT WE, WE ALSO HAVE ON DEMAND TRAINING FOR YOU AS WELL.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FIRST NOW.
[b. Engineering]
CITY ENGINEERING REPORT.GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, UH, MARCUS NELSON AND CITY ENGINEER.
I JUST HAVE MY, UH, MY BASIC PRESENCE.
UM, AND AS A UPDATE FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON UPDATING THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING REVIEW PROCEDURES.
UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, INCORPORATING THOSE, UH, INTO OUR, UH, ONLINE INTER GOV SYSTEM, THE ONE STOP SHOP.
SO THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES WITH THAT.
UH, IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HEAR ABOUT ANY ISSUES OR DIFFICULTIES IN THAT PROCESS, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WOULD, WOULD APPRECIATE ANY OF THAT COMMUNICATION.
WE WANT THIS TO GO AS SMOOTHLY AS POSSIBLE, UM, FOR OUR DEVELOPERS OR OUR CITIZENS.
UM, BUT NOT, NOT EVERY PROCESS IS, IS PERFECT.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, I, I'VE LEARNED TODAY, UH, THAT DEVELOPMENT HAS STARTED, UH, AT THE WHAT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF, UH, RIN AND FORT BENTO ROAD.
SO IT'S, IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS.
HOWEVER, I THOUGHT THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT AS WE CONSIDER, AS YOU CONSIDER, UM, DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THAT AREA.
AND LASTLY, UH, NIGHT ROAD EXTENSION.
WE ARE DOING A RIBBON CUTTING ON THAT TOMORROW MORNING.
INCOMING, UH, IT'S EIGHT 30 IN THE MORNING, UH, AND IT WILL BE AT THE INTERSECTION, THE ENTRANCE TO THE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY.
BE AT THE INTERSECTION OF NIGHT ROAD AND WATTS PLANTATION.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, CITIZENS INTERESTED PEOPLE WHO JUST ENJOY ROADS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY IN THE PUBLIC, UH, TO COMMENT ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
[a. CONSENT AGENDA]
ITEM SEVEN, PLATS SEVEN A.ITEM ONE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR OLYMPIAN BUSINESS PARK.
TWO, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF TERRITORY AT MISSOURI CITY.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF BEVERLY WOOD FOUR.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF FINAL PLAT OF CHE CHERRYS ESTATES BEING A REPLAT OF BLOCK ONE LOT THREE OF WATER.
CONSIDER AN APP RECONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FORT BEND TOWN CENTER.
RECONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF FORT BEND TOWN CENTER THREE SECTION THREE SEVEN.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF JR TIRE SHOP EIGHT.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF SHIPMAN'S HIGHWAY.
AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? YES, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? UH, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
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MOTION CARRIES.[b. Fort Bend Parkway Business Park]
UM, MOVING ON.ITEM B, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A REVISED CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF FORT BEND PARKWAY BUSINESS PARK.
SO WE RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FOR A REVISED CONCEPT PLAN FOR FORT BEND, UM, PARKWAY BUSINESS PARK.
THIS IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF TREMOR FRESNO AND FOR BEND TORAY.
UM, THE REASON FOR THE REVISION IS TO UPDATE THE PHASING PLAN AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UM, APPROVAL OF CONDITIONS SINCE THERE WERE SOME ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AND THEN FOR ITEM TWO, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLOT BECAUSE WE DO REQUIRE AN APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN.
AND SO THE CONCEPT PLAN AT THIS POINT, UH, WOULD STILL BE APPROVED CONDITIONS.
SO THERE ARE SOME DEFICIENCIES ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, AND SO FOR THE COMMISSION THAT FOR BEND BUSINESS PARK IS OKAY, SO WITH WITH CONDITIONS, THAT'S WITH CONDITIONS, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE, IT'S PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 88.
IT'S WHERE AMAZON IS LOCATED ALONG THE FORT BEND PARKWAY.
UM, SO IT'S ALL OF THAT LAND TO THE EAST.
IT ALSO INCLUDES DIRECT CREEK VILLAGE IN THERE.
UM, WHEN AMAZON WENT IN, THERE WERE THREE OR TWO PHASES THAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO CONSTRUCT.
SO THERE WAS GONNA BE OFFICE WAREHOUSE OFF OF, UH, LAKE OLYMPIA, UH, COMMERCIAL OFF OF TRAM OF FRESNO.
THIS CONCEPT PLAN STRETCHES IT OUT TO FOUR PHASES.
UM, AND THEN BECAUSE OF SOME DRAINAGE CONSIDERATIONS, THEY HAVE TO REPURPOSE SOME OF THAT AREA, UH, TO USE FOR DRAINAGE DETENTION.
UH, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE CHANGING, UH, SOME OF THE LAND USES, UM, AND PHASING SCHEDULE ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, SO THEY NEED TO MAKE, UH, UM, ADJUSTMENTS, UH, TO WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BEING APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS.
AND THEN THE PRELIMINARY PLA WOULD BE FOR SOME OF THE DETENTION AREAS, UH, THAT COULD ONLY BE APPROVED IF THE CONCEPT PLAN IS APPROVED.
EVERYBODY GET THAT? THINK SO,
UM, CUZ WE HAVE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND APPROVED THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THEN IMMEDIATELY TURNED AROUND AND APPROVED A PLAT.
BUT IN THIS CASE, THERE, THERE, THE CONCEPT PLAN REALLY ISN'T READY TO BE COMPLETELY APPROVED.
SO, SO ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL YES.
AND THEN ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, ON THE PLA THEY'RE SAYING IT'S NOT, THE PLAT CANNOT BE APPROVED AT THIS POINT.
SORRY, THAT JUST, UM, CLEARED.
WE WILL TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE CONCEPT PLAN? YOUR HONOR.
OH, I WAS ASSUMING COULD WE HAD TO MAKE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS? YES.
SO WE'RE MAKING THE FIRST MOTION ON WHAT MR. CHAIRMAN ON APPROVING THE CONCEPT PLAN WITH CONDITIONS.
WHAT THE UM, WITH CONDITIONS? YES.
BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT ON THE SCREEN NOW.
YEAH, THAT'S, I'M IN THE BACKGROUND TOO.
THE, THE CONCEPT PLAN, RIGHT? YES.
AND, UH, WE GET A SECOND, PLEASE.
UH, I'M NOT SEEING A SECOND REGISTER, ALTHOUGH IT'S SAYING WE CAN VOTE.
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RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE THEN.EVERYBODY'S VOTED AND THAT MOTION CARRIES.
AND THIS IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, MA'AM.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SO THE YES VOTE IS FOR NO TO DISAPPROVE? YES.
BASED ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION MM-HMM.
[c. Sienna]
ON, ITEMS, UH, C CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF REVISED CONCEPT PLAN, CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR SIENNA SECTION FOUR B.SO FOR, UM, REVISED CONCEPT PLAN FOUR B, THE REVISED CONCEPT PLAN WAS SUBMITTED TO MAKE, UM, REVISIONS TO THE LOT LAYOUT ITSELF.
UM, IT'S SPLITTING UP INTO THREE SEPARATE SECTIONS, 50 A, B, AND C.
WHEREAS BEFORE, I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST A AND B, AND THEN THEY ARE INCREASINGLY LOT SIZES, SO IT WILL REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF, BUT, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL DUE TO NEEDING AN UPDATED T I A.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE? NO, IT'S PRETTY EASY.
UH, WE'LL ENTER 10 A MOTION ON THAT ONE.
OH, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION NOW A SECOND.
DID YOU WANT ME TO UNURTH THE UM, YES.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON NUMBER TWO.
NUMBER TWO IS, IS WITH BEEN ITEM NUMBER TWO'S BEEN WITHDRAWN.
AND WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE WAITING, UH, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE THIS CONCEPT PLAN.
ITEM THREE IS A PLAT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CONCEPT PLAN, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE IT NOW WITH CONDITIONS.
SO THIS ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO IT IS A CONCEPT PLAN, READ THROUGH THESE THINGS AND IT'S LIKE, NO, NO, THIS IS GONNA BE CONFUSING.
YEAH, IT IS A CONCEPT PLAN, BUT THESE TWO PRELIMINARY PLAQUES ARE NOT ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN.
SO THOSE TWO PRELIMINARY PLAQUES WERE ON DIFFERENT CONCEPT PLANS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
AND WE SEPARATED THEM OUT BECAUSE THE, THE OVERALL CONCERN, UH, WITH, UH, CONTINUED PLATING IN SEEING SOUTH IS, UH, THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.
AND, UM, AN UPDATED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT AFFECTS ALL OF THE PLATTING, UM, THAT'S TAKING PLACE THERE.
SO WE ARE ON THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE N FOUR B.
ARE WE READY? AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR VOTING, I PROMISE I'M GONNA HIT THAT, RAISE MY HAND THING, UM, VOTING A OR, OR I WOULD BE AGREEING WITH THE STAFF'S DISAPPROVAL.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, I BELIEVE.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS WE'RE DISAPPROVING.
UM, SO, UM, AS I STATED, UH, ITEM TWO HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE, WHICH CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SANTA LAKE DRIVE STREET,
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DEDICATION.AND, UH, A STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF THIS PLAT.
ANY DISCUSSION UNDER EVERYBODY? OKAY.
WITH STAFF'S, UH, DESCRIPTION OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? YES.
GO AHEAD AND, UH, CAST YOUR BOO THAT OUT.
UM, ITEM D HAS BEEN, UH, WITHDRAWN FROM BY THE APPLICANT ALSO.
[a. IFMA - Multifamily - PD, Planned Development District]
TO EIGHT ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS EIGHT A, A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR AGAINST A REQUEST BY HEAPING CHIN I F I F M A PROPERTY L L C TO ZONE AT APPROXIMATELY 8.57 ACRES OF LAND FROM SEAT SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT.AND S U P SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 0 6 TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR MF TWO MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT USES.
SO AS YOU STATED, WE DID RECEIVE AN APPLICATION, UM, FOR A ZONING AMENDMENT.
CURRENTLY THIS IS, UM, ZONED S U P TO ALLOW FOR A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY.
AND THE BASE ZONING IS FOR SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT, UH, SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO REZONE ALL 8.57 ACRES TO PD PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR MF TWO MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT USES.
UM, THIS LAW IS LOCATED ON KNIGHTS ROAD, OR EXCUSE ME, KNIGHTS COURT.
IT'S SOUTHWEST OF HIGHWAY SIX IN JUST SOUTH OF COUNTY LAKE SUBDIVISION.
THE ZONING AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A FOUR-STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX BUILDING THAT WILL HOUSE ABOUT 150 UNITS.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A SITE PLAN THAT DEPICTS A, UH, PAVILION, A TENNIS COURT, A PLAYGROUND, A DOG PARK, UM, AND ALSO A QUARTER MILE TRAIL TO BE LOCATED AROUND THEIR DETENTION POND THAT THEY ARE, UM, PROPOSING TO LOCATE TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE SITE.
UM, THE SITE PLAN ALSO SHOWS A APPROXIMATELY 4,200 SQUARE FOOT, UM, STORAGE SPACE.
THEY'LL BE UTILIZED BY RESIDENTS ON SITE.
SO WITH THIS PD APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TWO DEVIATIONS FROM THE REGULAR REQUIREMENTS OF THE MULTI-FAMILY TWO DISTRICT.
SO ONE OF THE DEVIATIONS IS ON THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
THE EXISTING REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTI-FAMILY, UM, ALLOWS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THREE STORIES OR A 45 FEET.
AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, UM, 44 STORIES NOT TO EXCEED, UH, 50 FEET.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL ON THAT DEVIATION.
THE SECOND DEVIATION THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS, UM, FOR THE BUILDING DENSITY.
SO THE EXISTING REQUIREMENT IS THAT THERE CANNOT BE MORE THAN 24 UNITS WITHIN A SINGLE BUILDING STRUCTURE.
UM, WITH THIS PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THERE'S ABOUT 150 UNITS WITHIN A SINGLE STRUCTURE.
UM, SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THEY'LL, WE MAINTAIN THE EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY TWO REQUIREMENTS.
HOWEVER, UM, THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO USE FIREWALLS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE TYPE OF BUILDING THAT THEY SHOW ON THEIR SITE PLANS.
BUT EACH SECTION THAT'S SEPARATED BY, UH, FIREWALLS CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN 24 UNITS.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ADOPT THIS AS ITS FINAL REPORT AND PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
GO BACK OVER THE 24 VERSUS 150.
SO WITH OUR EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY REGULATIONS, WE HAVE TWO ZONING DESIGNATIONS.
THERE'S A MULTI-FAMILY ONE AND A MULTI-FAMILY TWO.
AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT IS THAT, UM, WITHIN A SINGLE STRUCTURE, THERE CANNOT BE MORE THAN 24 UNITS, MORE THAN 24 LIKE APARTMENT UNITS.
UM, AND SO WHAT, WHAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED BASED ON THE SITE PLAN, THIS IS A SINGLE STRUCTURE, UM, THAT WOULD HOUSE 150 UNITS, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY ALLOW.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS TO KEEP OUR EXISTING REQUIREMENTS AT 24 UNITS PER, UM, BUILDING STRUCTURE.
BUT IN THIS CASE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE FIREWALL SEPARATION TO CREATE SEPARATE SECTIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR 24 IN EACH SECTION THAT ARE SEPARATED BY FIREWALLS.
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I'M SORRY.I'M JUST GLAD I WAS ABLE TO FOLLOW DIRECTIONS.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T FOLLOW DIRECTIONS.
UM, I, I'M CURIOUS AS TO THE STAFF'S THOUGHT PROCESS ON, UM, ACCEPTING A, UH, DEVIATION FOR THE HEIGHT, UM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE DENSITY.
AND THEN A SECONDARY QUESTION TO THAT IS A, ACROSS THE CITY RECENT, DURING RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, UM, HAVE WE STUCK WITH DEVIATING FROM THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT? CUZ I'M ASSUMING THAT'S FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE BASED ON THE AREA HOW WE WANT THE CITY TO LOOK.
SO JUST CURIOUS AS A THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT.
YEAH, SO THE REASON FOR THE DEVIATION FOR THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, THEIR PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY RIGHT UP 45 FEET, WHICH IS WHAT MF TWO CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR.
UM, BUT THERE WAS SOME, UM, I GUESS KIND OF CONFUSION ON WHETHER THAT REQUIREMENT WOULD BE, THEY NEEDED, IF IT INCLUDED THE FIRST FLOOR, I GUESS, WHEN THEY, UM, DO LIKE THE CLEARING AND GRUBBING, UM, OR NOT.
AND SO IN ORDER TO KIND OF, UM, LESSEN THAT CONFUSION, WE WENT UP TO 50 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 45 FEET, UM, JUST TO BE SAFE ON THAT END.
BUT THEIR PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY 45 FEET WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD BE WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO WE'RE JUST REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET.
SO I GUESS, AND I GUESS IN A LAYMAN'S WAY OF ASKING, ARE THE UNITS GONNA BE SHORTER TO STILL MEET THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT OF THE OVERALL STRUCTURE OR YES.
NO, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT, I GUESS ON THE FLOOR PLAN.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE SECONDARY QUESTION, HAS THERE BEEN RECENT EXAMPLES OF WHERE WE HAVE DEVIATED FROM THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS ACROSS THE CITY? I'M TAKING A REALLY WELL, AND LET ME, LET ME ADD ON HEIGHT IS, UM, A LOT OF WHAT WE SEE ON THE HEIGHT IS THE SUBURBAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MODEL, UM, WHERE A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS REFLECT, YOU KNOW, ONE STORY, TWO STORY THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SUBURBAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UM, DESIGN IN OUR LC THREE RETAIL DISTRICT, THERE ACTUALLY ISN'T A HEIGHT LIMIT, UM, UNLESS IT'S WITHIN A CERTAIN PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS TO BRING THE HEIGHT DOWN.
UM, SO IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, UM, SIRI, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE, THE AERIAL ACROSS FROM, IT'S ACROSS FROM COLONY LAKES, THAT PORTION IN BETWEEN COLONY LAKES AND THIS PROPERTY IS FORT BEND, UH, MUD 46 DRAINAGE, UM, FACILITY, UM, THAT HAS A WIDTH OF, I
UM, IT, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 200 FEET.
AND SO USUALLY, SO THE SHOPPING CENTER GOING TOWARDS HIGHWAY SIX AS A ZONING OF LC THREE, THEY BUILT A ONE STORY SHOPPING CENTER, BUT TECHNICALLY THEY COULD HAVE GONE TALLER, UM, IF UNDER THE ZONING, IF, YOU KNOW, THAT MADE SENSE IN TERMS OF THEIR MARKET, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
THEY OFFER TO DO THE STANDARD SINGLE ONE STORY SHOPPING CENTER.
SO WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY IN ZONING TO GO TALLER.
UM, IT'S USUALLY AS IT GETS CLOSE TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT IT, THE HEIGHT COMES BACK DOWN.
UM, BUT THEN IN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER IT'S MULTI-FAMILY OR WHETHER, UM, IT'S A MORE URBAN KIND OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT GOING CLOSER TO A TOW ROAD, YOU KNOW, OR CLOSER TO OUR, OUR MAJOR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CORRIDORS, UM, YOU DO HAVE SOME ABILITY IN ZONING TO, TO EXTEND THAT HEIGHT.
AND REGARDLESS THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IS STILL THERE.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING REGULATIONS AND WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING AND THE DEVIATION IS ABOUT FIVE FEET TO KIND OF, UH, MAKE SURE THERE'S, THERE'S NO ISSUES LATER ON IN THE BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THAT HEIGHT.
AND, AND I'LL, I'LL ADD THAT, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING THE PD ROUTE THAT, THAT WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO, UH, AND, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER EITHER IF WE'VE HAD A HEIGHT RESTRICTION FLEXIBILITY IN THE PAST, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE DEVIATED FROM THE, THE STANDARD ORDINANCES, UH, OR STANDARD RULES, UM, BASED ON THE PD IN THE PAST.
SO, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I, I'VE GOT ONE REAL QUICK.
I NOTICED THAT ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, AN U WAS ISSUED FOR THIS FOR A SCHOOL.
UM, THE CURRENT DOCUMENTATION SAYS THAT THE TRAFFIC WORKSHEET SAYS A TIA IS NOT NEEDED.
WAS ANY TRAFFIC STUDY DONE FOR THE SCHOOL? AND IF SO, WHAT DID IT CONCLUDE? SO TO CLARIFY, ON THE TRAFFIC WORKSHEET, THE TRAFFIC WORKSHEET THAT THEY PROVIDED DID NOT TRIGGER A T I AT THIS TIME, BUT IT WILL BE REQUIRED
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DURING THE PLOTTING PROCESS.UM, AND OUR THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT IS THAT ONCE THE LAND USE HAS BEEN SECURED AND THEY'RE READY TO MOVE ON INTO THE PROCESS, THEN WHEN WE REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK ON THE REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO IMPLEMENT AT, AT THE SPECIFIC SITE.
UM, AND THAT WOULD ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SCHOOL AND THE CHURCH AND ANY OTHER, UM, TRAFFIC, UH, IMPEDANCE THAT ARE IN THIS AREA.
SO WHEN THE SCHOOL REQUESTED THE S U THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T DO A, IT NEVER MOVED TO WHERE WE DID A TRAFFIC OH, FOR THAT FOR, FOR THE SEP P FOR THE MONTESSORI SCHOOL ORIGINALLY? YEAH.
A T I MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DONE AS PART OF THAT.
UM, IT MAY HAVE BEEN DEFERRED TO THE TIME OF PLANNING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, THIS APPLICANT HERE? YES.
YEAH, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE A PRELIMINARY CONCEPT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SINCE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO FIREWALLS INSTEAD OF ACTUAL BUILDING SEPARATION, IS THERE ANY LIMITING FACTOR ON AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT THEY COULD HAVE? SO PER SECTION SEPARATED BY A FIREWALL WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 24 UNITS, WHICH IS WHAT OUR CURRENT, UM, MF TWO REGULATIONS ARE.
BUT I GUESS IS THERE A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SECTIONS THEY COULD CREATE? BECAUSE THE, I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S ASKING ABOUT, SEE YEAH.
ARE THEY, DOES THEY, THEY COULD REALIGN THE BUILDING OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THE DENSITY.
UM, THAT WOULD BE UP TO BUILDING AND FIRE CODE, JENNIFER.
YEAH, SO YOUR, YOUR CAP IS GONNA BE, THEY HAVE MAXIMUM PER BUILDING AND THEN A MAXIMUM PER GROSS ACRE.
SO THEY CAN'T EXCEED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, OF, UM, WHAT THAT ACREAGE WOULD YIELD.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, FACTOR WITH THAT IS AS THEY INCREASE UNITS, THEY ALSO HAVE TO INCREASE PARKING, UM, PROVISIONS AS WELL.
UM, SO ALL OF THAT HAS, WOULD, WOULD BE FACTORS THAT WOULD KEEP THAT NUMBER, UM, WITHIN THE MF TWO RANGE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS, AGAIN, WITH THE PD DISTRICT, YOU DO HAVE, UM, THE FLEXIBILITY OF KIND OF CAPPING THAT RIGHT NOW, MULTI-FAMILY TO, UM, WHAT ALLOW FOR UP TO 170 UNITS, THEY'RE PROPOSING 150.
SO IT'S STILL LESS THAN WHAT THEY COULD DO, BUT PER THE PD YOU COULD, UM, PUT A CAP ON 150 UNITS.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, THEY ARE HERE.
UH, WOULD YOU STEP FORWARD AND, UH, STATE, UH, TALK TO US ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? HI, UH, MY NAME IS BEN.
UH, I'M THE VENUE, I'M THE ARCHITECT AND WORK FOR THE, UH, TWO OWNERS OF PINTON AND WWI YANG.
UH, I THINK STORY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB, UM, EXPLAINING THE WHOLE PROJECT.
SO, UH, I THINK THE OWNER'S VISIONS REALLY TO CREATE A SELF CONTENT SMALL COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE SEE THERE'S NOT MANY, UH, HIGH END MULTI-FAMILY PRODUCTS IN THIS AREA.
AND WE DO WANT BRINGING A HIGH END PRODUCT TO ATTRACT MORE, UM, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND ALSO BENEFIT THE TEACHERS BECAUSE WE NOTICED HOW CLOSE THIS SITE IS TO A GREAT, UH, GREAT HIGH SCHOOL AND ALSO A, UM, A BRANDY NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO ACTUALLY THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO, UH, EVEN OFFER A DISCOUNT FOR THE TEACHERS WHO WORK IN THE HIGH SCHOOL AND ALSO IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO, AND ALSO WE PROVIDE A LOT OF, UH, AMENITIES, WHICH ARE THE TRADITIONAL, UH, APARTMENT.
YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE, LIKE THE DOG PARK, THE WIFI LAUNCH, AND ALSO THE, UM, FITNESS CENTERS.
SO WE REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE NEW TRAINING IS, UH, WORK FROM HOME.
AT LEAST THERE'S LIKE A HYBRID MODEL.
SO WE WANT OUR PRODUCT IS RESPONSE TO THIS NEW TRAINING AND THE OWNERS REALLY WANNA CONTRIBUTE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, HOPE THIS WILL BRING A NEWER, MODERN VERSION TO THIS TRADITIONAL SUBURBAN AREA.
DID YOU WANT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE I OKAY.
APPRECIATE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.
UM, A AS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO.
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FIRST TIME DOING THIS, SO KIND OF BEAR WITH ME.UH, IT WAS FROM MY HOA, UH, I'M A RESIDENT HOMEOWNER, THE LANDING COL COLONY LAKES, WHICH IS GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT HERE.
UH, BIGGEST CONCERN IS, UH, THE LOCATION AND HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP.
TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL BEING THERE AND NOW A NEW ELEMENTARY THAT'S, UH, ALMOST, UH, FINISHING CONSTRUCTION.
SO FIRST OF ALL, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL GOING IN, I KIND OF THOUGHT, HOW IN THE HECK ARE THEY GONNA DO THE, UH, TRAFFIC FLOOR WITH ALL THE MORE EDITED BUS BUSES THAT ARE GONNA BE BRINGING IN CHILDREN INTO THAT AREA? AS IT IS, THE ONLY, UH, THE ONLY ENTRANCE INTO THOSE AREAS IS FROM HIGHWAY SIX ON KNIGHTS COURT AND FROM, UH, THOMPSON FERRY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO WHEN I SAW THIS AND I SAW MULTIFAMILY, I SAID, IT'S A APARTMENT.
SO I SAID, WELL, HOW MANY UNITS ARE GONNA BE IN THIS APARTMENT? AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN ANSWERED.
HOW MANY UNITS ARE GONNA BE IN HERE? IT'D BE 150.
SO I SAID, OKAY, 150, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOTTA BE AT LEAST ONE CARPER
SO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CHILDREN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TEENAGERS OR WHATEVER.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE ABOUT 200, MAYBE 300 NEW VEHICLES BEING INTRODUCED INTO THAT AREA.
SO THE OTHER CONCERN WAS HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE COMING IN AND GOING? SO IS THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT ONLY GONNA BE OUT, OUT OF, UH, NICE COURT OR ARE THEY GONNA BE GOING OUT OF ANYWHERE ELSE? IT'S NIGHT COURT THE ONLY ACCESS TO THAT APARTMENT FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND COME OUT.
IS IT OKAY IF I ANSWER THAT? YES, GO AHEAD.
WE'RE THE ENGINEERS FOR THE PROJECT? YES.
IT'S ONLY GONNA COME OFF OF MY COURT.
I'M NEED YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME ON THE MICROPHONE AND THEN PROCEED.
UH, SCOTTY SCHMIDT WITH MCKEN AND CREE.
UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE ENTRANCES AND EXITS OFF OF NIGHT COURT.
THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE ENTRANCES AND EXITS OFF OF NIGHT COURT.
AND IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME, WE'VE DONE A TRAFFIC WORKSHEET TO DO THIS.
UH, PER THE STATE'S CODES, A PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID A STUDY.
I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO EVERYBODY HERE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, I BELIEVE IT'S AT THE PEAK HOURS IN THE MORNING.
IT'S FROM SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30 IS THE STUDY.
UM, THOSE TRAFFIC COUNTS WE'RE GONNA BE ABOUT 57 CARS IN THE MORNING COMING OUT ON PEAK, UH, IN THE AFTERNOON.
THE PEAK TIME IS BETWEEN FOUR 30 AND SIX 30.
I BELIEVE THAT'S AFTER SCHOOL HOURS.
SO THE BIGGEST IMPACT IN THE MORNING ON THAT, AND I THINK, UH, THE INCOMING TRAFFIC WAS ANOTHER 51 CARS OR SOMETHING.
I HAVE THE WORKSHEET, I CAN GIVE YOU ONE IF YOU WANNA SEE IT, BUT A STUDY WAS DONE FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE EMPTY, ENTERING AND EXITING TRAFFIC IN THE PEAK HOURS.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.
SO I'M, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME, UH, UNDERSTANDING.
THE THREE MINUTE PUBLIC SPEAKING TIME IS ELAPSED.
WELL, I CAN GIVE YOU THE WORKSHEET YOU CAN SEE.
I, I I I WILL SAY THAT THE, THE, IT IS A STANDARD WORKSHEET THAT IS USED BASED ON EXPERIENCE.
AND SO, UH, THERE'S SOME CALCULATIONS I GUESS THAT, THAT THEY USE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS.
AND WE, WE HAVE COMMUNICATED, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT THAT, UH, IF THINGS MOVE FORWARD, UH, THINGS MOVE FORWARD, UH, THINGS GET APPROVED WITHIN ZONING, UM, THAT A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL BE REQUIRED, UH, WITH PRELIMINARY FLAT.
WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UM, THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND IF ANY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE WARRANTED DUE TO THE INCREASED TRAFFIC VOLUMES, NOT JUST FROM THIS, BUT ALSO ACCOUNTING FOR THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN.
WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE IT? UH, NO.
THERE'S A, THERE'S ANOTHER PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
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UH, COME FORWARD PLEASE.CAN I GET YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK? THANK YOU, MA'AM.
I LIVE IN COLONY LAKES HOUSING DIVISION.
UM, SO I DO RISE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL TAKE THESE POINTS INTO CONSIDERATION.
ONE IS, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE MFTS AND THE PROGRESS IT WOULD MAKE TOWARDS IMPROVING MISSOURI CITY.
I JUST THINK IT'S THE WRONG LOCATION.
I HAVE A TEENAGE DAUGHTER AND AT A POINT I WOULD DRIVE HER DOWN THERE.
AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO ROAD RAGE CENTRAL, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND HOW BAD THAT TRAFFIC IS IN THE MORNING AND HOW MUCH IT ALSO IMPACTS THE EFFICIENCIES OF THE BUSES TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE.
SO IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO A LOT MORE HOSTILITY.
I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE MORE ACCIDENTS.
I'M HOPING I'M WRONG, BUT I, I ALMOST GUARANTEE IT.
UM, THE OTHER PIECE TOO IS IF THERE IS IDENTIFIED TRAFFIC PROBLEMS WITH IT, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE COST THAT'S GONNA BE PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS.
SO I WOULD URGE YOU AS IF THIS DOES GET APPROVED, IS THAT SOMEHOW WITH ANY TRAFFIC FLOW INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE FOR THAT AREA, CUZ THERE IS A LACK OF EASEMENTS IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA, IS THAT THE ASSESSMENTS FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS FOR EVEN WALKWAYS OVER THAT ROAD TO PROTECT THE KIDS FOR THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, AS WELL AS, UM, ANY WIDENING OF THE ROADS, THOSE ASSESSMENTS BE PUSHED TOWARDS THAT TAC TOWARDS THAT PROPERTY AND NOT DISPERSED AMONGST ALL RESIDENTS.
UM, THE, THE OTHER PIECE IS, IS WITH THIS, I HA I WONDER IF SINCE IT'S MULTI-FAMILY, ARE THESE ONE BEDROOM OR TWO BEDROOM, BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T ESTABLISH THE POPULATION DENSITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH HOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE THERE.
I MEAN, A, A GOOD I I, A GOOD BENCHMARK FOR IT WOULD BE UNDERSTANDING HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE GONNA BE THERE THAT WILL GIVE US MORE DEFINITION OF HOW MANY CARS CAN ACTUALLY BE FIT WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THAT ZONE.
AND IF THEY'RE ALL GOING IN AND OUT, A LOT OF 'EM ARE GONNA TRY TO GET TO HIGHWAY SIX, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND ACROSS THE TRAFFIC TO GET THROUGH THERE.
AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THROUGH ROAD RAGE CENTRAL, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT IT'S GONNA EXASPERATE THAT PROBLEM.
CUZ I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE, I'VE DRIVEN IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THAT I'VE BEEN SWORN AT HONKED AT FLIPPED OFF BY EVERYBODY WHO IS JUST FRUSTRATED WITH THE LACK OF FLOW INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH THAT AREA.
AND NOW YOU'RE ADDING AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DOWN THERE THAT ONLY COMPOUNDS THE PROBLEM MORE.
AND THE DUCT TAPE APP, THE DOLLAR STORE DUCT TAPE APPROACH THAT THEY DID TO THOMPSON'S FERRY ROAD IS ONLY A TICKING TIME BOMB FOR BAD TRAFFIC.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING ME OUT AND I HOPE THAT WE'LL TAKE DEEP CONSIDERATION FOR MAYBE APPROVING A HOUSING COMPLEX LIKE THIS, BUT JUST NOT AT THIS LOCATION.
ANYBODY ELSE, UH, WANNA SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? I JUST HAVE, UH, SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS.
YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR HUSBAND.
DO YOU WANT WANT ME TO SPEAK OUT THE ADDRESS? UH, YES, PLEASE.
YEAH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, THIS COMPANY IS THE SAME COMPANY LIKE 2, 2, 3 YEARS AGO.
UH, THEY TRIED TO, THEY TRIED TO DEVELOP, UH, MULTI-FAMILY TWO FIVE STORY BUILDINGS, UH, ALSO IN COLONIAL LAKES, BUT IN ANOTHER, UH, IN, IN PROBABLY JUST NORTH, UH, UH, NORTHWEST, UH, UH, UH, PLANT.
UH, SO, UH, SO WE, WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, RESIDENTS OPPOSE THAT.
SO, SO THIS IS ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE SAME COMPANY SECOND.
UH, UH, A GENTLEMAN SAID THERE'S A TRAFFIC SO HUGE IN THIS INTERSECTION.
EVERY, EVERY AFTERNOON YOU, YOU DRIVE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, YOU HAVE TO WAIT LIKE A TWO, THREE, UH, UH, UH, TRAFFIC LIGHT TO, TO GO PAST.
AND ALSO, UH, IN MISSOURI CITY, I KNOW THE GENERAL, GENERAL, UM, UH, REGULATION IS,
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UH, NO, NO MORE THAN THREE STORIES.BUT, UH, THIS COMPANY TRIED TO, UH, UH, COME UP FOUR STORIES.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW, IT IS KIND OF A, A PROFIT ISSUE OR, OR WHAT, BUT, UH, I DON'T AGREE WITH FULL STORY BUILDING.
YOU DON'T, YOU, YOU LOOK AROUND, THERE'S NO FULL STORY BUILDING AT ALL.
SO, UH, OF, OF COURSE, THIS, UH, UH, THIS, UH, SITE IS SO CLOSE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THERE IS, UH, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UH, UH, IN, ON THE CONSTRUCTION AFTER THAT FINISH EVERY MORNING.
THIS, THIS ONE GONNA BE A TRAFFIC, UH, CHOKE POINT.
YOU PROBABLY WAIT LIKE, UH, 10, 20, 30 MINUTES TO PASS THROUGH.
SO THAT'S MY GENERAL QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, NOW I'LL TAKE YOUR MOTION, MR. O'MALLEY TO CLOSE THE MOTION PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
EVERYBODY CAST YOUR VOTE PLEASE.
AND THAT MOTION CARRIES, ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERED A FINAL REPORT AND A RE RECOMMENDATION ON ITEM EIGHT A ONE.
UM, SO TO THE ONE GENTLEMAN'S POINT ABOUT THE, WHO PAYS FOR THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, IF I'M CORRECT, THE DEVELOPERS SHARE THAT COST? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
IF THERE ARE ANY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE WARRANTED THROUGH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DEVELOPER, UH, WOULD FUND THAT.
AND DID THAT, HOW DID THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITUATION KIND OF PLAY OUT WITH THE, WITH RESPECT TO THAT? I DON'T RECALL.
I BELIEVE THAT DECISION PREDATES MY TENURE, UH, WITH THE CITY.
UM, JENNIFER, I CAN
UM, AND THEY ACTUALLY CREATED A PEDESTRIAN PLAN TO TRY AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT WERE GONNA BE ON THE ROAD.
SO THEY INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF SIDEWALKS, UM, AND I THINK THEY ALSO DID SOME ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.
UH, BUT SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF, IF A T I A INDICATES THAT IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE, UM, THAT THE, THE DEVELOPER BEAR BEARS THAT COST? CORRECT.
UM, DO WE KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS SITUATION LAST MONTH WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE MCCLEAN ROAD, UM, SITUATION AND, AND THE FACT THAT, UM, THE, IT'S VERY MUCH UNDER PERFORMING NOW IS KNIGHT ROAD IN, IN THAT SAME CAMP, I BELIEVE KNIGHT ROAD IS, IS ALSO IN A FAILED CONDITION.
AND WITH, WITH, WITH RESPECT TO LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY MITIGATIONS PLAN FOR THAT? NOT THAT I CAN SPEAK TO AT THIS TIME.
SO THAT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS GENTLEMAN'S, UH, GOT, GOT HIS QUESTION ANSWERED ABOUT THAT.
UM, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OTHER PROTEST LETTERS.
UM, THE, THE MAJORITY WERE, UM, WERE AROUND TRAFFIC.
UM, UH, THERE WAS, UH, ONE, OR ONE OR TWO COMMENTS CONCERNING THE, THE, THE, UH, GREEN OP OPEN SPACE, THE, THE CURRENT VEGETATION, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I GUESS THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS ALREADY ZONED TO BE DEVELOPED AS A SCHOOL, UH, WHICH WOULD'VE PROBABLY AFFECTED THAT, UM, THAT SITUATION.
UM, AND THEN ONE, ONE OTHER PERSON WAS CONCERNED ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES AND, AND CRIME.
UM, UH, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TEND TO HEAR THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT APARTMENT COM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES, MULTI-FAMILY, I GUESS WE CAN'T CALL 'EM APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THEY'RE POLITICALLY CORRECT.
UM, UH, ANY, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONS HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR, I HAVE A QUESTION, TIM.
THE, UM, NIGHT ROAD, IS THAT A BOTTLENECK RIGHT THERE AT SIX ALSO THAT LAST YEAR THAT I'M SEEING RIGHT HERE THAT IT WIDENS AND THEN IT NARROWS DOWN WHERE THE, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL'S
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AT, WHERE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL'S AT PROPOSED TO BE? IS IT, DOES IT NARROW DOWN TO TWO-LANE, FOUR-LANE? WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA, UM, SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KNIGHTS COURT.WE HAVE A KNIGHTS ROAD AND THEN A KNIGHTS COURT.
AND WE'RE, AND THIS IS KNIGHTS COURT.
WELL, NIGHT NIGHT COURT, I DO NOT RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UM, I CAN, BUT, BUT YOU STATED THAT, THAT I COURT IS UNDERPERFORMING RIGHT NOW.
ICE COURT IS UNDERPERFORMING AND IT, IS IT AT HIGHWAY SIX OR IS IT, UH, FURTHER DOWN? IT'S THE, THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR IS FAILED.
UM, IT'S TWO LANES WITH THE CONTINUOUS TURN LANE IN THE MIDDLE.
SO AFTER PLATING, THEN YOU GET THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
AND IN A PERFECT WORLD, IT VERIFIES THE UNDERPERFORMANCE OF THAT AREA.
RESOURCES THEN WOULD BE SHARED OR PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER BASED ON THE OUTCOME OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
UM, MITIGATION MEASURES WOULD BE DETERMINED FROM THERE.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPERS.
SO ALONG AS THAT, THAT THE TIPPING POINT, SO TO SPEAK, UH, IS BASED ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE IMPROVEMENT THAT YOU LOOKED AT LAST YEAR, IN A PERFECT WORLD FOR THAT, IS IT SIMILAR TO HIGHWAY SIX AND MURPHY, WHERE YOU HAD THREE OR FOUR TURN LANES GOING TO THE LEFT TO IMPROVE THIS SITE? THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO ADD A RIGHT TURN LANE OFF OF KNIGHT'S CORD.
UM, AND THEY'D PROBABLY HAVE TO WIDEN IT IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC.
SO THEY'D HAVE TO MORE THAN LIKELY ADD TURNED LANES.
AND, AND THE, THE T WOULD BE BEFORE PLATTING, CORRECT? THE, OKAY.
SO THE TIA WOULD BE CONCURRENT WITH PLATT, CONCURRENT WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.
CONCURRENT WITH THE PRELIMINARY.
BUT THE, THE FINAL PLAT COULDN'T BE APPROVED UNTIL THE T I HAS BEEN DONE AND THE HAS BEEN APPROVED.
AND ANY MITIGATION MEASURES DETERMINED AND MITIGATION IS OKAY.
AND, AND I THINK THE, THE REAL WILD CARD, OF COURSE, IS IT HAS TO BE THE CASE THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS THE TIPPING POINT, WHICH WE ALREADY KNOW, IT'S ALREADY TIPPED.
WE ARE, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WOULD REVIEW THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND SHE IS WONDERFULLY THOROUGH IN IDENTIFYING WHERE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE COMING FROM.
UH, AND SHE'LL ALSO WORK WITH THE, UH, CONSULTANT'S ENGINEER ON THAT.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING CONCRETE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE EVENT THAT, THAT WE REACH THAT STAGE.
WELL, AND, AND I'M A TOTAL BELIEVER IN LETTING THE SYSTEM WORK.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE SYSTEM TO DO THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, UM, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ARE WE READY TO MAKE A MOTION? UM, I THINK THE PROCESS NEEDS TO CONTINUE.
UM, SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SECOND THAT? OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO FORWARD THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
AND THIS IS JUST TO, UH, CREATE THIS PD MM-HMM.
UM, IT WILL BE FOR MF TWO WITH 150 UNITS AND TO ALLOW FOR THE SLIGHT VARIATION IN THE HEIGHT TO ALLOW, TO ALLOW FOR THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL GRADING ISSUES.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE GIST OF THE STAFF REPORT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THEN THAT'LL GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES, PLEASE.
AND THAT WAS EVERYTHING WE HAD ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
UH, I WILL ENTERTAIN ONE MORE MOTION.
OH, YOU GOT GET A SECOND, PLEASE.
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CASH YOUR VOTES.UH, WE STILL NEED A VOTE FROM O'MALLEY AND PEARSON AND SILVA.
YOU HAVE TO VOTE TO CLOSE THE MEETING.
WE CAN'T EVEN TO CLOSE THIS MEETING.