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THE, UH,[1. CALL TO ORDER]
JUNE 14TH, 2023, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.UM, UH, WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER DAVIS AND A COMMISSIONER SILVA WHO ARE, UH, WITH US TONIGHT STILL.
[a. Consider approving the minutes of the May 10, 2023 Planning and Zoning...]
ITEM THREE, READING OF THE MINUTES.I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AND WAIVE READING.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND VOTE.
THAT FINALLY UPDATED
[4. COMMISSION REPORTS]
UM, ITEM FOUR, COMMISSIONER REPORTS, UH, CHAIR PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION.I HAVE NO REPORT OTHER THAN APOLOGIZE TO MR. O'MALLEY FOR PUTTING HIM ON THE HOOK LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH.
UH, WITHOUT NOTICE, I WILL GIVE YOU MUCH MORE WARNING NEXT TIME.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSION REPORTS? SEEING NONE.
STAFF REPORTS TO HOMELAND SERVICES.
I DON'T HAVE ONE, BUT COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.
UH, ENGINEERING ENGINEERING DOES NOT HAVE A REPORT EITHER THIS MONTH.
UH, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLIC TO, UH, SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
[a. CONSENT AGENDA]
ITEM SEVEN, THE CONSENT AGENDA.NUMBER ONE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR C N S SECTION 50 C TWO.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FOR C NS.
SECTION 50 A ITEM THREE, RECONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FOR C N S SECTION 59.
ITEM FOUR, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FOR SIENNA RETAIL CENTER.
ITEM FIVE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FOR SIENNA WATER CENTER.
AND ITEM SIX, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FOR CHERRY IN ESTATES.
A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY, A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER MALLEY.
I ITEM, UH, ITEM THREE I THINK WAS ITEM THREE.
UM, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN THAT SITUATION POP UP BEFORE.
IS THAT COMMON WHERE THE PLAT NEVER GOT RECORDED AND THEY MADE CHANGES AFTER IT WAS APPROVED? IT HAS, UM, IT'S TAKEN DIFFERENT FORMS. SO BEFORE 2019, IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, AFTER 2019, YOU'RE GONNA SEE MORE OF THOSE, BUT IT'S, IT'S IRREGULAR.
IT'S NOT A FREQUENT OCCURRENCE.
THAT WAS WHEN IT SAID RECONSIDER, I'M THINKING, WELL, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND I READ THROUGH IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I JUST WANTED, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPOUND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT THE, UM, THE, THAT, THE WAY IT IS? WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED AS FAR AS I COULD TELL WAS, UH, WE APPROVED THE PLAT BACK IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER LAST YEAR.
SOME WHAT? I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE.
AND BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY RECORDED THE PLAT WITH THE COUNTY OR WHEREVER, THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE.
AND SO IT CAME, COUNCIL DID? NO NOT, OR THE COUNTY, THE DEVELOPER.
SO THEY MADE A CHANGE AND SO THEREFORE THE PLAT WAS NOW INCORRECT.
AND SO WE, THEY HAD TO COME BACK AND GET THE NEW, THE REVISED PLAT, UH, APPROVED.
AND I, I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, PARTICULARLY LIKE THE SIENNA ONES IS AFTER THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL, THEY GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ROADWAY LAYOUT.
SO THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE TIME THAT THE FINAL PLAT IS SUBMITTED.
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SO THERE MAY BE CHANGES ON THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY THAT MAY CAUSE THEM TO HAVE TO REVISE THE PLAT.AND SO THIS HAPPENED BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY RECORDED.
I SAW IT A BAIL TELEPHONE A LOT.
[a. Flicker Lift Station - SUP]
ITEM EIGHT IS A ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS EIGHT A FLICKER LIFT STATION, S U P PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENT FOR AGAINST A REQUEST BY FORT BEND COUNTY MUNICIPAL DISTRICT NUMBER 26 FOR AN S U SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN APPROXIMATE 2.24 ACRE OF LAND TO ALLOW FOR THE LOCATION OF A LI LIFT LIFT STATION.UH, THE SITE LOCATION, UM, IS, UM, I'M SORRY, WE SWITCH THAT TO OKAY.
IT'S LOCATED WEST OF TEXAS PARKWAY, SOUTH OF THE MISSOURI CITY FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE AND NORTH OF FLICKER, UM, DRIVE.
THE S U P WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION ON MAY 10TH AND IT'S HERE FOR RECONSIDERATION.
AND DURING THAT MEETING, THE COMMISSION, UH, PROVIDED A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL DUE TO THE SITE LOCATION AND THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT THE RESIDENTS ON FLICKER DRIVE WOULD RE WOULD RECEIVE.
UH, DUE TO THE LOCATION ON MAY 17TH, I'M SORRY.
YEAH, MAY 17TH, I BELIEVE, UH, THE MUD, MUD 26TH MET TO CONSIDER, UM, TO CONSIDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, FOR SEWER LINES SO THAT THE RESIDENTS ON FLICKER DRIVE WOULD RECEIVE SERVICE.
AND, UH, THEY ALSO PROVIDED TWO OPTIONS FOR THE SITE LOCATION.
AND THAT IS WHAT, UH, WE ARE HERE FOR.
AND, UH, STAFF DOES STILL PROVIDES A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
SO THEY PROVIDED ALTERNATE LOCATIONS, BUT THEY, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THEY LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES, BUT THEY DECIDED THAT THIS ONE WAS THE ONLY OPTION THEY HAD.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, FLICKER IS THEIR NUMBER ONE OPTION.
HOWEVER, UM, IF OTHER OPTIONS ARE NEEDED, THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE RANDY D COMMUNITY PARK AS WELL AS THE ARCADIA RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT WOULD JUST STRETCH THEIR LINES A LITTLE MORE.
AND THE LOCATION ON FLICKER STREET WOULD BE MORE ACCESSIBLE TO WHERE WHAT THEY NEED.
THEY ALSO PROVIDED A STATE OF A STATEMENT OF NEED AS WELL.
AND THEY ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THEY ALSO, UH, OH, YOU GO AHEAD.
YOU DID SUCH A MAGNIFICENT JOB LAST MONTH.
SO THE, THE PROPOSAL LAST TIME WAS NOT PROVIDING ANY ADDITIONAL SERVICE TO THE RESIDENCE.
SO THEY WERE JUST GOING TO BE INCONVENIENCED, BUT WITHOUT ADDITIONAL SERVICE.
THIS PROPOSAL IS, EVEN IF THE SITE AREA CH IS THE SAME MM-HMM.
UM, I THINK YOU SAID MUD 26 HAD MET, UM, IN BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING AND THIS ONE, WAS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT, A MEETING WHERE EITHER THE, THE MUD OR, OR SOMEBODY SIMILAR SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT THESE OPTIONS? AND WAS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, UM, FROM THEM? CUZ THEY WERE, THEY WERE VERY VOCAL MM-HMM.
AND THE MUD ATTORNEY AND REPRESENTATIVE I HAVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO CLARIFY THAT THE, THE PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO FLICKER, UM, WAS GONNA BE AT NO COST TO THE RESIDENCE, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THE RESIDENCE WOULD NOT BEAR THE COST.
JUST, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON THE RECORD TOO, SO MM-HMM.
I AM THE ATTORNEY FOR FORT BEND MUD 26.
UM, I'M HERE TO REALLY, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS, UH, REGARDING THE LIFT STATION CONSTRUCTION.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, REALLY THE MAIN REASON THAT IT IS, UH, PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR FORT BEND 26 TO CONSTRUCT THE LIFT STATION ON THIS SITE IS BECAUSE IT'S
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700,000 TO A MILLION DOLLARS CHEAPER, UM, THAN IT IS, UH, TO CONSTRUCT THIS, THE LIFT STATION ON SITES TWO OR THREE.AND IT ALSO AVOIDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF KIND OF LINES THAT BASICALLY RUN BACK AND FORTH, UM, THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, YOU KNOW, OWNING, OPERATING, MAINTAINING IN PERPETUITY.
UM, THE SITE OBVIOUSLY BACKS UP TO THE FIRE STATION.
IT IS THE ONE RESIDENCE THAT IT IS ADJACENT TO IS LOCATED IN THE DISTRICT.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE DISTRICT.
AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'VE RECEIVED NO OBJECTION FROM THE, UM, RESIDENT WHO LIVES ADJACENT TO THE SITE.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU, I SPOKE PERSONALLY WITH MR. JMO, UM, REGARDING HIS CONCERNS.
I BELIEVE HE WAS THE ORGANIZER OF THE, THE, THE, THE COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS WHO, UM, WERE CONCERNED.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN WITH HIM PREVIOUSLY AND WITH MR. NITO, UM, AND HIS SON WHO, WHO THIS KIND OF GOES BACK, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS.
THEY HAVE REQUESTED SERVICE FROM THE DISTRICT IN THE PAST.
THE DISTRICT HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE SERVICE, UM, SO LONG AS THEY WERE WILLING TO PAY THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH EXTENDING SERVICE.
THESE, THESE RESIDENTS DON'T LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, THEY'RE NOT DISTRICT TAXPAYERS.
THEY HAVEN'T CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS THE COST OF THE PLANTS OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO THAT IS WHY THE DISTRICT HAS NOT EXTENDED SERVICE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE TAXPAYERS IN THE DISTRICT DON'T WANNA BEAR THE COST OF PROVIDING FREE SERVICE TO, TO NON-TAX PAYERS.
BUT I WILL SAY WE HAD A FAIR AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION AT THE BOARD MEETING, THE MUD BOARD MEETING, UM, IN BETWEEN THESE, THESE TWO MEETINGS.
AND THE BOARD IS WILLING TO CONSIDER, OR IS WILLING TO EXTEND, UM, THE LINES DOWN FLICKER AND TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THOSE RESIDENTS ON AN OUTER DISTRICT BASIS.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE DISTRICT ENGINEER IS HERE AND THE PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PREPARED, AND THE LINE IS INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.
AND WE HAVE A FULL PLAN SET, TWO COPIES OF THE FULL PLAN SET HERE.
UM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE PLANS, OBVIOUSLY ENGINEERING CANNOT ACCEPT THEM UNTIL, UH, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, IS APPROVED.
EVEN THOUGH WE DID, WE DID MAKE AN EFFORT TO SEND THEM IN.
SO, SO I HAVE, EXCUSE ME, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE LIFT STATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE LINES BEING LAID WILL ALL BE DONE PRETTY MUCH AT THE SAME TIME? IT WILL BE PART OF THE SAME PROJECT, THE SAME CONTRACTOR.
THE, THE SEWAGE FROM MR. GMO'S HOME WILL ENTER THE NEW LIFT STATION TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND THEN BE PUMPED TO THE PLANT SO THAT THE LIFT STATION WILL SERVE THE RESIDENTS ON THAT STREET.
LET FORCES OF GOOD OF THE WORLD, UH, MAKE YOUR DAY TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY COULD GET SERVICE.
I, I, I, UM, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, IT SERVES ABOUT A THOUSAND HOMES RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE A REAL, WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM, UH, WITH OUR SEWER SYSTEM AND THE BOARD IS REALLY INTERESTED IN, IN FIXING IT AND MAKING A RIGHT.
AND I WAS HAPPY TO SPEND TIME TALKING TO MR. OMA AND ADDRESSING HIS, HIS CONCERNS.
UM, SO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT.
I HAVE ONE, YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, JUST, UM, I'M, I'M CURIOUS, UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIMELINE QUESTION AND ANSWER, CUZ THAT WAS MY THOUGHT TO HELP THE RESIDENTS.
I I, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO LIKE INSIDE THE, THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT I THINK IT WAS NORTH OF 700,000, YOU SAID, UM, WOULD COST EXTRA FOR THE ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS, WAS THAT BOTH LOCATIONS ROUGHLY EACH LOCATION WOULD COST ABOUT THAT.
IT'S, IT'S TOO SMALL FOR ME TO READ FROM HERE, BUT THERE'S A COST ESTIMATE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH OPTIONS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
AND, UH, OPTION TWO INCREASES THE COST ABOUT $700,000, AND OPTION THREE INCREASES THE COST APPROXIMATELY A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND TO YOUR EARLIER COMMENTS, THAT WOULD GO TO THE TAXPAYERS IN THE MUD DISTRICT 26, WHICH THE FOLKS ON THE STREET ARE NOT A PART OF THAT THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
ALL OF THESE COSTS, THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THIS IS AN ORIGINAL SEWER LINE IN THE DISTRICT THAT HAS BEEN REPAIRED MULTIPLE TIMES NOW.
AND THE ENGINEERS HAVE DETERMINED THAT IT IS NOT IN THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE TO PERFORM THESE REPAIRS.
SO FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD A TEMPORARY GENERATOR, TEMPORARY PUMPING IN SOMEONE'S FRONT YARD BECAUSE THERE IT IS THE ONLY TEMPORARY WAY TO KEEP THESE THOUSAND HOMES THAT ARE RECEIVING SERVICE, UM, OPERATIONAL.
SO, UM, IT'S OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT TO KEEP PEOPLE FLUSHING THEIR TOILETS.
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SO, YEAH.SO YOU SAID YOUR, THE DISTRICT IS LOOKING AT PROVIDING SERVICE TO THE HOMES THAT ARE JUST ON FLICKER.
WHAT ABOUT THE ADJACENT STREETS? ARE THEY NOT INCLUDED? THE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE, ANOTHER A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED FEET AWAY? IS IT JUST THOSE NINE? JUST THOSE NINE HOUSES? I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE ARE HOMES ON ALL OF THE, LOTS ON THE STREET.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT, BUT THAT'S CORRECT.
WE ARE, THE, THE LIFT STATION SITE BACKS UP TO THE FIRE STATION IS ADJACENT TO A, A HOME THAT IS IN THE DISTRICT AND THEN IS ON THE OTHER SIDE IS BOUND BY FLICKER.
WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO, UM, EXTEND INTO, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WOULD COME AT, UM, A CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE AND POSSIBLY REQUIRE THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITIONAL, UM, LIFT STATION.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD IS, YOU JUST SAID THAT THIS LIFT STATION WILL SERVICE A THOUSAND HOMES? CORRECT.
THERE ARE A THOUSAND HOMES THAT ARE SERVED.
IT IS THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF, UH, BRADFORD VILLAGE, QUAIL, GREEN WEST, AND PEBBLEBROOK, THAT ALL ARE SERVED BY THE SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT HAS, HAS FAILED AND IS UNDER TEMPORARY REPAIR.
AND THAT, THAT WASTE WILL BE DIVERTED THROUGH THIS LIFT STATION AND THEN DIRECTLY TO THE DISTRICT'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, TO ESSENTIALLY AVOID THE CONTINUED FAILURES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THIS LINE.
YOU GUYS SUBMITTED SOME DOCUMENTATION ON WHAT WAS IN EACH OF THE AREAS? OKAY.
I THINK THE, I THINK THE SERVICE AREA AND THE NUMBER OF HOMES IN, IN EACH OF THE AREAS IS HIGHLIGHTED.
UM, MY ONLY, MY, MY QUESTION IS, UH, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE OTHER THAN PRICE BETWEEN THE, WELL, WAS IT 700,000 AND THE 1 MILLION, THE 300,000, THE $300,000 DIFFERENCE? WHAT, WHAT'S DIFFERENT, OTHER THAN THE COST ITSELF? WHAT, WHAT IS DIFFERENT AS FAR AS THE LOCATION GOES? I, OR, OR ANYTHING THAT YOU FIGURED WOULD BE MATERIAL? YEAH.
AS FAR AS THE LOCATION GOES OR THE QUALITY OF THE, UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT MINE OR, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING FOR THE ENGINEERS, I MEAN, IT'S IN A LOGICAL LOCATION, RIGHT? IT IS CLOSE TO, UH, WHERE THE LINE IS THAT HAS FAILED NOW.
UM, IT AVOIDS US KIND OF GOING IN A LOOP OR AN EXTENDED ROUTE TO FIND ANOTHER SITE.
THIS WAS AN UNDEVELOPED, VACANT, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE DISTRICT PURCHASED, UM, YOU KNOW, ALONG TEXAS PARKWAY.
UM, AND, AND IT'S THE MOST LOGICAL AND AND LEAST EXPENSIVE SITE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE PAY A HIGHER COST? MY, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO, TO, OR, OR THE PREFERENCE AND THE ENGINEER'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO BUILD IT ON SITE, ONE SITE THAT WE ARE HERE ON THE PERMIT FOR TODAY.
SO THE PRICE DIFFERENCE WAS, OPTION TWO IS 700,000 MORE THAN OPTION ONE, WHICH IS THE FLICKER.
OPTION THREE IS A MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN OPTION ONE.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE LEANING TOWARDS OPTION ONE BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST LOCATION.
IT ALSO TURNS OUT TO BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE LOCATION.
AND, AND I WILL ADD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL AROUND IT.
THE ENTIRE THING IS EFFECTIVELY UNDERGROUND.
THERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THE LIFT STATION OR A SIMILAR LIFT STATION IN THE PACKET.
UM, THAT KIND OF SHOW THE PIPING, THOSE, THOSE ARE OPEN DOORS DOWN TO THE PUMPS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 15 FEET OR SO, UH, IN THE GROUND.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE THANK YOU.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR JENNIFER, NOT YOU.
THE OTHER RESIDENTS IN THAT GENERAL AREA THAT ARE NOT ON THE STREET, THAT'S DIRECTLY TIED INTO TO THIS LIFT STATION, NOT OUR ROLE, BUT I DON'T WANT THOSE FOLKS TO BE IGNORED BECAUSE NOW IF FLICKER STREET GOING TO GET THIS, OF COURSE THE OTHER RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO WANT THAT ALSO.
NOW, JUST DID LIKE A QUICK SURVEY.
IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE ABOUT 20, UM, PROPERTIES OUT THERE.
UM, THAT WOULD BE, UM, OUTSIDE.
SO DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, WE DO NOT.
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OKAY.I'LL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. O'MALLEY AND, UH, SECONDED BY MR. PEARSON.
GO AHEAD AND CLASS YOUR VOTES.
UM, EIGHT, UM, A TWO IS CONSIDERED A FINAL REPORT AND RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION ON EIGHT A ONE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON IS YOUR MOTION.
I, UM, MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE STAFF'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR S U P FLICKER LIFT STATION.
UH, AND THEN POSITIVE, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
UM, COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
UH, ITEM NINE, ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS.
[a. Mobility & ITS Plan 2023]
ITEM 10 A IS THE MO MOBILITY AND I T S PLAN 2023.LAST TIME I DID THIS, I DIDN'T HAVE MY MIC ON.
TOOK TWO, TWO PEOPLE IN, THREE TRIES.
UM, SO I COMING BACK, UH, TO RE-DISCUSS VERY BRIEFLY THE MOBILITY AND I T S MASTER PLAN, UH, WHICH I PRESENTED LAST MONTH.
UH, AND, UH, YOU AND THE CITIZENS, UH, HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW BRIEFLY GOING BACK OVER THAT.
UM, FIRST TOUCHING ON THE I T S MASTER PLAN OF I TS, AGAIN, IS INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE SYSTEMS SUCH AS, UH, SIGNAL CONTROLS, WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS, UH, AND OUR TM C R TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY CENTER.
THAT'S REALLY THE HUB OF ALL OF OUR I T S TECHNOLOGY WITHIN THE CITY.
SO THIS, UH, THIS IS AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TO STRATEGICALLY ADDRESS UPGRADES TO THE EXISTING TRA TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE.
OUR CURRENT PLAN WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2015.
AND AGAIN, THE PICTURE THAT WE SHOW HERE, UH, THAT'S OUR T M C AND THAT CAME OUT OF THAT PREVIOUS PLAN.
SO THE PLANS THAT WE CREATE, WE DO MOVE FORWARD AND WE DO THINGS WITH THEM.
SO AGAIN, MOVING ON BRIEFLY COVERING OUR MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.
SO THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN, AS IT'S OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO IMPROVE MOBILITY AND PROMOTE CITYWIDE GUIDANCE FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION WITHIN THE CITY.
OUR CURRENT PLAN WAS, UH, LAST UPDATED IN 2011.
AND SO WE'RE NOW IN NEED TO UPDATE THIS PLAN TO EVALUATE MOBILITY OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE OUT OF THIS PLAN, A NOTABLE PROJECT THAT WE HAD WAS THE NIGHT ROAD EXTENSION, UH, WHICH WE JUST CUT RIBBON ON TWO, THREE MONTHS AGO NOW.
UM, SO PRIOR TO THAT, WHEN WAS IT LAST UPDATED? DO YOU KNOW? I REMOVED THAT SLIDE.
UM,
I'M TRYING GET, ARE WE ON SCHEDULE? ARE WE LATE, ARE WE, OR IS IT JUST DRIVEN BY OTHER FACTORS? UH, IT'S DRIVEN BY OTHER FACTORS NEEDS.
UH, IN GENERAL, WE TRY TO UPDATE PLANS AROUND EVERY FIVE YEARS, PLUS OR MINUS NEED.
UM, THIS PLAN WAS SERVING US WELL UP UNTIL THIS POINT, UH, WHEN WE WERE REEVALUATING OUR PLANS, COMING TOGETHER WITH A COHESIVE PLAN.
SO MARRYING BOTH THE MIBI MOBILITY AND I TS MASTER PLAN, DEVELOPING THEM TOGETHER, UH, BECAME A GOOD OPTION.
SO, SO WE BROUGHT THEM BOTH FORTH AT ONCE.
ACTUALLY, UH, ON THAT POINT, IT WAS SUCH A GOOD OPTION THAT WE SUBMITTED THAT TO, UH, A P W A, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION'S, UH, TEXAS DIVISION CONFERENCE.
AND MYSELF AND MANU, UH, WILL BE PRESENTING THESE PLANS AT TEXAS, UH, AP, UH, A P W.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS A VERY IMPRESSIVE FEAT, UM, THAT, THAT WE'VE IN, THAT WE'VE COMPLETED TOGETHER AND WE GET TO SHOW OFF FOR THE CITY.
THIS IS A GOOD FEATHER IN OUR CAP.
SO, SOME OF THE KEY SCOPE ITEMS, UH, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT GOING INTO THIS PLAN, UH, EVALUATING THE CURRENT NEEDS, PROJECTED GROWTH PATTERNS, UH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART.
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CITIZENS ARE, ARE VERY INVOLVED IN THEIR GOVERNMENT, UH, AND THEIR, THEIR TRAFFIC.UH, SO WE WANTED TO REACH OUT WITH THEM AND GET THEIR INVOLVEMENT, UH, VISIONING FOR FUTURE MOBILITY PLANNING ENHANCEMENTS, UH, AND THEN MOBILITY STRATEGIES, RECOMMENDATIONS AND ACTION PLANS.
SO WE DID CONDUCT FOUR PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, BACK IN 2022.
UH, ONE IN MARCH, TWO IN APRIL.
AND THEN ACTUALLY, WE, I SHOULD HAVE ADDED THIS ON THERE, NUMBER FIVE WAS LAST MONTH.
UH, WHEN WE INITIALLY PRESENTED THIS PLAN TO YOU, THAT WAS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY PER THE PUBLIC TO ENGAGE WITHIN THIS PLAN.
AND TONIGHT IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TOO.
SO, ALTOGETHER WE'LL HAVE HAD SIX PUBLIC ENGAGEMENTS, INCLUDING THIS EVENING, LOOKING AT THE DELIVERABLES AND OBJECTIVES OF THIS COHESIVE PLAN SET TO PROVIDE A FUTURE FRAMEWORK FOR MOBILITY TO ESTABLISH, UH, GUIDANCE FOR OUR TS TECHNOLOGY MOVING FORWARD TO DEVELOP COST EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION ACTION PLAN.
SO AGAIN, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, PIE IN THE SKY DREAMS. WELL, WHAT ARE THINGS WE CAN ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH WI WITHIN THE CITY? AND THEN TO PROVIDE A RANKING FOR THOSE THINGS.
IN THE BACK OF BOTH OF THESE PLANS, UH, WE'VE RANKED THEM, UH, NEAR TERM, UH, AND HIGH, UH, HIGH NEED.
PROGRAMMING SHORT, MEDIUM, AND LONG TERM PROJECTS.
AND THEN OF IDENTIFYING GRANTS AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
IT'S A LOT OF GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, UH, OUT THERE TO HELP FUND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
AND WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY CHASING THAT ALREADY.
UH, LOOKING AT SOME FUNDING THROUGH THE H G A C.
SO WE HAD PRESENTED THIS LAST MONTH TO THE COMMISSION.
UH, IN THAT TIME WE DID RECEIVE SOME, SOME COMMENTS.
AND I, I THANK, UH, COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY FOR PROVIDING A VERY COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF COMMENTS THAT, THAT, I MEAN, BROUGHT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTERNALLY.
UM, SOME OF THE, UH, AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE GONNA ADD, CLARIFYING POINTS, THERE WEREN'T SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES MADE.
JUST SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION THAT WAS ASKED.
AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE, UH, PENDING ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING.
UH, DRIVING, UH, SPECIFYING THAT DRIVING IS STILL THE PREDOMINANT MODE OF TRAVEL WITHIN THE CITY.
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT, UH, BIKE AND MULTIMODAL TRAVEL, BUT PEOPLE ARE STILL MOVING AROUND OUR CITY VIA THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES.
UM, DISCUSSING, UH, SOME OF THE WIDENED BIKE AND SHARED USE PATH OPTIONS, UH, THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
UM, SOME OF THE, THE BIKE PATHS WERE SIX, UH, WHAT, SIX FEET WIDE, UH, OTHERS PRESENTED AT SEVEN.
UH, AND THEN THE CHANGE IN, WHAT AM I TRYING TO THINK OF? SIDEWALKS FROM SIX FEET.
UH, AND IN SOME INSTANCES, OFFERING A SHARED USE PATH OF 10 FEET.
SO GETTING INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
ALSO, DISCUSSION ON SOME OF THE LOW LEVEL OF SERVICE ROAD SEGMENTS.
WE SPENT DECENT TIME TALKING ABOUT INTERSECTIONS.
WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY SPEND AS MUCH TIME DISCUSSING ROAD SE SEGMENTS.
AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UH, KNIGHTS COURT, UH, SPENT TIME TALKING ABOUT THE INTERSECTIONS AROUND THERE.
DIDN'T SPEND AS MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA ADD SOME MORE DISCUSSION AROUND THAT.
UH, ALSO ADDING SOME DISCUSSION ON COORDINATION, UH, WITHIN OUR REGIONAL CORRIDORS.
ALL OUR ROADS CONNECT TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE DOING THAT? WHAT, WHAT IS SOME OF THAT, THAT COORDINATION WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD? SOME OF THAT MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATELY PLACED, UM, WITHIN A, UH, HOW DO I SAY? I WANNA SAY TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, BUT THAT'S NOT IT.
UM, AMINA GAVE ME THE WORD EARLIER.
WE HAVE ANOTHER PLAN THAT, THAT DESCRIBES WHERE THE ROADS ACTUALLY GET LAID.
THOROUGHFARE MASTER PLAN, THERE WE ARE.
OKAY, SEE, I JUST HAD TO TALK MY WAY THROUGH IT.
UH, SOME OF THOSE MIGHT BE MORE REASONABLY PLACED WITHIN A THOROUGHFARE MASTER PLAN AS OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT MOBILITY AND ITS MASTER PLANS.
BUT WE'RE GONNA ADD SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT.
AND BECAUSE ENGINEERING, I MEAN, WE REALLY MAKE OUR BUCKS AND ACRONYMS. UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA ADD IN AN ACRONYM TABLE TO, TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE THOSE COMMENTS.
UH, COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY ACTUALLY DID ASK ME A QUESTION AT THE BEGINNING, WHICH ALMOST HELD UP THE MEETING, BUT NOT QUITE.
AND LOOKING INTO THAT, UM, THE, THAT WAS ON LOOKING AT THE, THE 25% IMPROVEMENT, UH, WITHIN, UH, REVIEWING OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING.
AND WHAT THAT GETS US, THAT'S 25% AVERAGE IMPROVEMENT IN DELAY TIMES FUEL CONSUMPTION, THINGS OF THOSE NATURE.
SO OUR, OUR GOAL AS, UH, AS YOU WERE ASKING WHAT IS OUR GOAL IS, UM, AS MINIMUM WAIT TIMES AS POSSIBLE, THAT STILL PROVIDES SAFE MODES
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OF TRA UH, TRANSIT FOR OUR CITIZENRY.OUTSIDE OF THOSE COMMENTS, THOSE WERE THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAD RECEIVED BEFORE THIS MEETING.
UH, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY, ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND BRINGING US TO SCHEDULE TODAY.
SO WITHIN THIS, UH, ONE THROUGH SEVEN STEP SCHEDULE, WE ARE ON STEP FIVE.
UH, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, ACTUALLY WE'RE MORE ON STEP SIX NOW.
UH, WE'RE ON STEP SIX AND REVIEW AND COMMENT OF THIS PLAN.
UM, THE DRAFT PLANS HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND SEEKING, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.
UM, BASED ON, ON WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED AND SOME OF THE CLARIFY CLARIFYING POINTS THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE, AND AT ANY ADDITIONAL CLARIFYING POINTS, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE WITHIN THE PLAN, UM, PENDING.
THOSE ARE SIMPLY CLARIFYING POINTS.
WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF OUR PLAN, UH, IF THE POINTS ARE MORE SUBSTANTIVE, AND IF THERE IS SIGNIFICANT CONCERN WITH THE PLANS AS THEY EXIST, WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK, REVIEW THOSE AND REPRESENT BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AS AN UPDATE.
AND AS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, IS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE? WE HAVEN'T
WELL, I WILL INTEND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PROPER HEARING, PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER SOAY AND MR. O'MALLEY FOR A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
UM, ITEM TWO HERE IS CONSIDER A FINAL REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION ON ITEM 10 A ONE.
CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY? SO THE, IN READING THE REPORT, IT REALLY TALKS A LOT ABOUT THE FACT TECHNOLOGY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE SYSTEM ITSELF.
IS THE BARRIER TO HAVE YOU REACH YOUR GOALS THAT WE HAVE TO EITHER HAVE RADIO OR WIFI OR FIBER OPTIC, OR HOWEVER YOU'RE GONNA COMMUNICATE WITH THIS SYSTEM.
IN 2011, WHEN WE DID IT THE FIRST TIME, WHAT WERE WE HOPING FOR IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN 10 YEARS FROM NOW? IF THE TECHNOLOGY LOOKS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TODAY? I'M GOING TO LEAN ON MY TECHNOLOGY EXPERTS ON THAT ONE FOR THE 2011 PLAN, AND THEN WHAT THE FUTURE OF ITS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
ONE OF BOARD COUNCIL MEMBERS, I MEAN, COMMISSIONERS.
UH, MY NAME IS MANU ISAAC WITH KIMLEY HORN, AND I HAVE WITH ME MARK CONWAY.
SO RELATED TO THE QUESTION THAT YOU JUST ASKED, UM, THE TECH, YOU KNOW, THE I TS, UH, UM, PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED, UH, BACK IN, UH, 2015, I BELIEVE WAS, UH, WELL, ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY WE NEED TO GO BACK FURTHER THAN THAT.
THE TMC AND ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2011 CAME FROM THE 2005 I TS MASTER PLAN.
AND IT WAS DESIGNED IN 2010, DEPLOYED IN 2011.
THE 2015 UPDATED THE TS MASTER PLAN WITH THE TMC AND THE WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS WAS ALREADY THERE.
I KNOW THIS BECAUSE THE FIRM THAT I WAS WITH BEFORE, WE DESIGNED IT BOTH PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.
AND BACK THEN, THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING IN THE WIRELESS WAS A FEW REASONS.
WIRELESS WAS KIND OF THE HOT THING, AND WE COULD DO RAPID DEPLOYMENT.
AND THE CITY SAID, IF YOU CAN GET THIS THING DESIGNED BY AUGUST, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO.
SO THE WIRELESS WAS QUICK, CAN BE INSTALLED QUICKLY.
UM, AT THE TIME IT WAS FAIRLY CHEAP COMPARED TO FIBER.
AND WE USED THE FASTEST WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY AT THE TIME.
TODAY, OBVIOUSLY THAT WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY IS SO MUCH MORE ADVANCED 10 YEARS FROM NOW, SAME THING.
IT'LL BE SO MUCH MORE ADVANCED THAN IT IS TODAY.
THE FIBER WILL BE THE SAME THOUGH.
DID I COVER THE QUESTION? NO, YOU DID.
AND SO THE, I THINK ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO RELY ON TEXT DOTS COMMUNICATION BOX, I GUESS THAT THEY, WHATEVER THE NAME THAT YOU GAVE IT IS TO MARRY YOURSELF WITH THAT.
SO, UH, UH, THE, THE CURRENTLY ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTROLLERS OR ECONO LIGHT THAT IS, UH, IT, IT'S A SYSTEM THAT IS, UH, USED BY TECHSTAR ALSO, RIGHT? THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE MARRIED TO THEM YET.
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THAT THERE IS SOME BENEFIT TO USING THE SAME TYPE OF CON SIGNAL CONTROLLER SYSTEM.AND SO WE, WE ARE BY NO MEANS MARRIED TO IT.
WELL, THE TEXTILE OPERATES FIBER OPTIC CABLE ALONG STATE HIGHWAY SIX THAT OUR SIGNALS CONNECT TO, BUT WE DON'T SHARE OPERATION OF THE SIGNALS.
WE JUST SHARE THE FIBER COMMUNICATIONS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING.
COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY SPEAKING TO THE MIC IS IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE THEM SPENDING THE MONEY AND THEN YOU CAN PIGGYBACK ON THAT, THEN THEIR TECHNOLOGY WILL BE MORE UP TO DATE THAN RELYING ON DIGITAL RADIO COMMUNICATIONS.
WELL, THEY, THEY ARE UPGRADING THE FIBER ALONG HIGHWAY SIX, RIGHT.
SO OUR SIGNALS WILL EXPERIENCE THE BENEFITS OF THAT UPGRADE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY FOR RUNNING OFF THEIR RIGHT OF WAY INTO YOUR CITY.
AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING A FEW ADDITIONAL FIBER OPTIC LINES SO THAT WE HAVE A MORE RUBBER ROBUST SYSTEM THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, THE FIBER WE PICKED WERE ALONG QUARTERS.
IT HAD A LOT OF SIGNALS, SCHOOL ZONES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD BENEFIT WHERE THERE WAS SPORADIC OR, UM, SOMEWHAT ISOLATED SIGNALS.
WE RECOMMENDED UPGRADE THE WIRELESS YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, AND AS MARK MENTIONED, THE WIRELESS IS STILL GETTING, UH, UPGRADED, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY-WISE.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE CHEAPER AND BETTER SYSTEMS AS THE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES.
AND I THINK OUR RESPONSE TO, UH, MR. UH, COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY, COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO UPGRADE THE WIRELESS EVENTUALLY IF THAT TECHNOLOGY'S GONNA GET OLD.
UM, IT'S GONNA GET BYPASSED BY NEWER TECHNOLOGY AT A MUCH GREATER RATE THAN IT WAS FROM 2011 TILL TODAY, QUITE FRANKLY.
BUT THE FIBER THAT THAT'LL BE YOUR ANCHOR FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING FOR.
CAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN HERE SINCE THAT LONG, SITTING IN THESE CHAIRS HAVING MEETINGS, AND I WANNA LOOK FORWARD TO, I'M LUCKY ENOUGH TO HERE 20 YEARS FROM NOW, SAY, HEY, REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE PREPARING FOR NEW TECHNOLOGY.
I'M NOT MARRYING OURSELVES TO THE ANTIQUATED STUFF.
SO WE'VE, UH, WE, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON, UH, A FINAL REPORT.
I, I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION IF I COULDN'T.
THE ONE I GUESS I REALLY WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT WAS BACK ON THE BIKE THING.
SO IN THE MOBILITY PLAN IS A NEW STANDARD FOR ACCOMMODATING BIKES, SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA.
AND THE ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS, WHERE WE STILL HAVE, UH, DEVELOPMENT GOING ON, IS THAT STANDARD NOW GOING TO BE IMPOSED ON DEVELOPERS PUTTING IN NEW NEIGHBORHOODS, NEW SUBDIVISIONS, NEW STREETS? AND IF SO, WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL COST TO DEVELOPERS TO DO THAT ON THE AVAILABLE LAND WE HAVE? SO WITH THE ADOPTION OF THIS PLAN, IT WOULD NOT BE IMMEDIATELY, UH, PART OF OUR DESIGN STANDARD.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND, UH, DO AN UPDATE TO OUR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL, WHICH IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE'RE CONSIDERING IN, UH, Q4, Q1, UH, END OF THIS YEAR, UH, BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.
UM, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT A, A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND THAT SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO DO THAT.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE.
UH, DEVELOPERS WOULD, WOULD HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THIS GOING FORWARD.
AS TO THE F COST OF THAT CHANGE, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE, THE READY NUMBERS, UM, ON MY FINGERS, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND LOOK AT WHAT THOSE UPDATED COSTS WOULD BE POTENTIAL.
WELL, AS, AS YOU CHANGE YOUR PLAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT? YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE CHANGING YOUR STANDARDS, WHAT THE OLD STANDARD, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THE ADDITIONAL COST WOULD BE TO GO TO THE NEW STANDARD ON THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE WE STILL HAVE? IS THAT PART OF YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR NEW STANDARDS? COSTS ARE A CONSIDERATION WITHIN OUR NEW STANDARDS.
UH, WE DO TRY TO LOOK AT, AND IT'S, IT'S COSTS, IT'S SAFETY, IT'S, IT IS MOBILITY.
UM, IT, IT'S THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE ACCESS FOR MULTI MODES OF, UH, TRANSIT.
UM, RIGHT NOW CARS ARE, ARE A VERY POPULAR OPTION.
CARS ARE VERY MUCH STILL THE, THE PREFERRED OPTION WITHIN THE CITY IN THE FUTURE, DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS ARE GO, UH, THAT, THAT COULD CHANGE.
UM, SO WE WANT TO START HAVING GOOD ALTERNATIVES, UH, TO TRANSIT BEYOND THE PERSONAL VEHICLE.
JUST REALLY QUICKLY, UM, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, SO FORGIVE ME IF I DID, BUT IS, IS IT IN THE REPORT, OR AT LEAST IN THE DEPARTMENT,
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UM, A BRIEF DISCUSSION IF IT'S, EVEN IF IT'S ONE SENTENCE TO SAY, UH, TO GIVE YOURSELF TIMING ON WHEN YOU WOULD EITHER REVISIT THE PLAN OR CHANGE IT IN THE FUTURE, JUST TO GIVE, UM, NORMALIZE A CADENCE WITHIN AN DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT THIS PLAN? OR IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A, OH, I'M LOSING MY PAPERS.ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A FUTURE UPDATE TO THIS PLAN RIGHT NOW? YEAH.
FUTURE UPDATE OR CONSIDERATIONS AS THINGS CHANGE, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND BETTER WIFI IS, IS IT, IT MAY BE A GOOD PRACTICE TO INCLUDE THAT IN, IN THE REPORT AS A WE INTEND TO LOOK AT THIS AT X OR AS NEEDED.
IN GENERAL, WE ALWAYS INTEND TO LOOK AT OUR PLANS, UH, AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK.
AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK, DEPENDING ON HOW, UM, STAFF AND COMMUNITY FEELS ON HOW THE PLAN IS MOVING FORWARD.
IF, IF THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD ACCORDING TO PLAN, AND IF THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PLAN LEFT AND THE PLAN IS GOING WELL, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE USING THE CURRENT PLAN.
UM, UH, WE, WE, WE DON'T TRY TO JUST CREATE, UH, PLANS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BUDGET TO DO SO.
IF THE PLAN'S WORKING, WE WANNA KEEP USING THAT PLAN.
IF THE PLAN BECOMES OUT MODELED, UH, EITHER BECAUSE WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED EVERYTHING IN THE PLAN OR THINGS CHANGE, UH, THEN WE NEED TO REVIEW, NEED TO REVIEW THE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD.
THE PREVIOUS PLANS WERE WORKING WELL FOR A PERIOD LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS, GAVE US SOME GRACE IN PLANNING, UH, AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE PLANS.
SO IT WAS A VERY GOOD VALUE FOR THOSE PREVIOUS PLANS.
WELL, SORRY, WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL, DOES THE PLAN INCLUDE A STANDARD FOR THE APPEARANCE OF CONSISTENCY REGARDING THE INSTALLATION OF THE LIGHTS? IF YOU GO DOWN HIGHWAY SIX OR MURPHY ROAD, YOU KNOW, OR OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, YOU'LL SEE AN ORNAMENTAL, YOU KNOW, BRONZE COLOR TYPE OVERHEAD, TRAFFIC LIGHT, AND THEN YOU GO DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER AND YOU'LL SEE A GALVANIZED STEEL ONE OVERHEAD, THEN YOU GO TO THE OTHER ONE AND IT'S GUIDEWIRE.
THERE'S NOT THE SAME CONSISTENCY AS YOU GO ALONG OUR MAJOR CORRIDORS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, IS THERE ANYTHING CORRECT THAT WOULD BE WITHIN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL.
AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE WITHIN, UH, SOME OF OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UM, THOUGH ALONG THE MAJOR CORRIDORS, UH, HIGHWAY SIX, UH, 10 92, UH, TEXAS PARKWAY, UH, THESE ARE TECH STOCK CONTROLLED, UH, ROADS AND TDOT WILL GO IN AND USUALLY BETWEEN THEM AND CPS, UH, WE CAN GET, UH, THE GALVANIZED STEEL, UH, AND THEY'LL PUT THAT IN ACCORDING TO OUR, OUR DESIGN STANDARDS.
SO THAT'S NO, NO COST ON US, BUT IF WE MOVE TO THE ORNAMENTAL ONES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY THAT COST DELTA.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, AT THOSE LIGHTS WITHIN INTERSECTIONS THAT WE'RE UPGRADING FROM THE SPAN WIRE TO MASS ARM IN GENERAL, WE ARE GOING WITH THE ORNAMENTAL.
UM, IT DOES TAKE ABOUT SIX MONTHS RIGHT NOW TO GET THE ORNAMENTALS, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF COST SPAN WIRE IS, UH, HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY COST EFFECTIVE.
IT'S WHAT THE CITY HAS USED IN IN PUTTING, PUTTING THINGS IN IN THE PAST.
WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM, UH, WHERE ANNUALLY WE ARE LOOKING AT CONVERTING AT LEAST ONE SPAN WIRE INTO A MA ARM WITHIN THE CITY.
THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A RAPID CHANGE.
THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNALIZE INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE CITY, BUT WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE WITH THAT CHANGE.
UH, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN.
YOUR MOTION IS A MOTION IS, UH, TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MOBILITY PLAN.
WELL, ACTUALLY TO CONSIDER, LET ME RE MODIFY TO CONSIDER A FINAL REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MOBILITY PLAN.
YOU STARTED OUT CORRECT, BECAUSE WE'RE CONSIDERING IT.
WE WANT TO FORWARD IT WITH A YES OF RECOMMENDATION.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MALL, YOU SECOND THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
CARRIE, I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOURS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT.
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ONE MORE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.ONE MORE ITEM, ITEM B, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
IT'S, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION SO WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE, DO WE? YOU DO NOT HAVE TO VOTE.
AND THIS IS, I THINK YOU ALL'S DISCUSSION WAS
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CHANNELING, UH, THIS UPDATE.UM, SO AS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION LAST MONTH, UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING AN APPRAISAL REPORT, UM, OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO TO THE QUESTION ON, YOU KNOW, DO WE UPDATE OUR PLANS AND HOW REGULARLY, UM, THIS IS THE FIVE, SIX YEAR MARK OF OUR 2017 ADOPTED PLAN.
SO BEFORE GOING HEAD IN AND JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, OVERHAULING THE WHOLE THING, WE'RE DOING AN APPRAISAL, UH, TO FIND OUT WHERE WE STAND, UM, FROM WHAT WAS ADOPTED THEN, UH, TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, TO, UH, SOME OF THE, THE, UH, MAJOR ITEMS, UM, AFFECTING US TODAY.
SO WHAT I WANNA JUST KIND OF, UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO DO IT AS BRIEFLY AS POSSIBLE, UM, JUST KIND OF RUN THROUGH, UH, SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON MONDAY, UM, IN THIS REGARD TO BRING THIS COMMISSION UP TO SPEED, UM, AND KIND OF, UH, QUALIFY SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING, UH, SURROUNDING THIS UPDATE.
SO, UM, IT WAS PRESENTED, UH, TO COUNCIL, AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS CHANNELING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, AND SO WHAT, UH, WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS TO DEAL WITH OUR EXISTING LAND, UM, IN INVENTORY.
HOW MUCH AVAILABLE LAND DO WE HAVE LEFT, UM, FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT? AND WE KIND OF TOUCHED UPON THAT LAST MONTH WHEN WE WERE, UH, CONSIDERING A ZONING CASE.
UM, AND FOR THE COMMISSION, UM, THE GUIDANCE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IS AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, REZONING, ZONING AMENDMENTS, AND EVEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF IS UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE SIT, UM, IN TERMS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT VERSUS REDEVELOPMENT.
SO WE KNEW, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2017 THAT WE WERE, UM, TRANSITIONING INTO A STAGE WHERE WE HAD ENJOYED A LOT OF LAND, A LOT OF NEW, UH, CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY, BUT WE WERE GETTING TO A POINT OF THE THRESHOLD OF LAND AVAILABLE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
UM, SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT FROM OUR 2017 PLAN OF WHERE WE STOOD.
AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS ABOUT 43%, UM, THAT WAS CONSIDERED VACANT.
UM, OF THAT, THAT AMOUNTED TO ABOUT 15,000 ACRES.
AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF ACREAGE, UM, TO DEVELOP.
UM, BUT IT'S BASICALLY JUST A LITTLE LARGER THAN THE SIENNA TOTAL MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY DISTRIBUTED, UH, THROUGHOUT, UM, THE CITY.
SO, UM, THIS WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
WELL, CUZ THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF TAKING THAT 15,000 ACRES THAT WE KNEW WE HAD AVAILABLE AT THAT POINT AND BASICALLY BREAKING IT DOWN ON OUR REALITY OF WHERE WE STAND TODAY.
SO OF THAT 15,000, THERE'S A LOT THAT'S COME THROUGH THE COMMISSION.
THERE'S A LOT THAT'S GONE ON THE GROUND AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY.
AND SO THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A PICTURE OF THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH PARKS EDGE OUT AT, UM, PARKS EDGE IN LAKE OLYMPIA, UM, THAT'S A THOUSAND NEW HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED NEARING COMPLETION.
THEY'RE NEARING, UM, BUILD OUT OF THAT SUBDIVISION, UM, FROM 2017, UH, TO PRESENT.
UM, SO ALL OF THAT ACREAGE THAT WAS CONSIDERED VACANT, UM, IN OUR 2017 PLAN NOW CONSISTS OF THAT PARKS EDGE.
UH, SUBDIVISION PARKWAY CROSSING IS, UH, THE AREA SURROUNDING FIRE STATION SIX, RIGHT, UH, NEAR, UM, UH, PARKS EDGE AS WELL.
SAME SITUATION WHERE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW, IF YOU DRIVE OUT THERE, IT'S VACANT, UM, TO THE PUBLIC, IT'S VACANT.
UM, BUT THERE IS A LAND PLAN THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED VIA PD, UM, FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT DEVELOPER IS ACTIVELY PREPARING POSITIONING, YOU KNOW, CREATING DRAINAGE PLANS IS, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHING THE DETENTION.
UM, THOSE PLATS HAVE COME THROUGH, UH, THIS COMMISSION, UH, TO DEVELOP OUT THAT PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE'VE SEEN THAT THROUGHOUT.
UM, THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF THAT.
UM, BUT THIS IS THE REALITY OF THE, OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
AND SO, AND THIS IS, UH, JUST A FEW MORE.
SO, UM, WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, UM, WAS, UM, FOR THIS COMMISSION, TWO OF THE MAJOR TOOLS YOU USE ARE THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
THAT'S A COMPONENT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE DIVING INTO OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS BECAUSE THAT, THAT PLAN IS BASICALLY THE GOALS, THE POLICY THAT THIS CITY HAS COLLECTIVELY, UM, TO POSITION ITSELF FOR ITS FUTURE.
UM, AND SO IT'S ARTICULATED AND LAID OUT ON A PLAN, UM, ARTICULATED IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WANT, YOU KNOW, TO DISTRIBUTE LAND USES, WHERE OUR BEST OPPORTUNITIES ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THINGS, UH, THAT WE DESIRE AS A COMMUNITY WHERE, YOU KNOW, OUR UTILITIES SHOULD BE PLACED, WHERE OUR PUBLIC, UM, SERVICES SHOULD BE PLACED, UM, IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT FULL SERVICE COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED.
AND THEN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT THE COMMISSION IS PRESENTED WITH THE S U P BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, UM, IS THAT IMPLEMENTATION TOOL OF THAT VISION.
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THOSE ZONING AMENDMENTS COME IN, UM, THE ZONING AMENDMENTS WE ARE EVALUATING BASED ON, UM, HOW CLOSELY IT MATCHES THE CITY'S GOALS.THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS NOT BUILT IN STONE.
IT'S NOT AN ABSOLUTE, UM, IT'S A VISION FOR THE FUTURE.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS SITE SPECIFIC AND IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS THAT A PROPERTY OWNER HAS.
OKAY? AND SO I KIND OF SUMMARIZED THOSE.
UM, AND SO AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE GONNA BE REEVALUATING, UH, THAT FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
AND SO THESE WERE THE, THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAD FROM 2017, THE FOCUS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FROM 2017.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND REPOSITION KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, IN TERMS OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT TODAY.
AND THEN I'M NOT GONNA, I HAVE, UH, SEVERAL SLIDES IN HERE AND THIS, UH, PRESENTATION IS GONNA BE PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION SO YOU CAN KIND OF DIVE IN.
CAUSE I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO GREAT DETAIL, UM, ON ALL OF THESE SLIDES.
BUT WHAT THIS DEPICTS IS BASICALLY WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UM, UH, RE-EMERGENCE OF LITTLE PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN DORMANT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, UM, THAT DEVELOPERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, HAVE STARTED TO DEVELOP OR SEEK TO DEVELOP OR SEEK, UH, TO REZONE THOSE PROPERTIES.
AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT, UH, CAME OUT OF THE COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY, UM, IS A FOCUS ON THOSE.
I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME THAT ROSE TO SOME HIGH PROFILE, UM, UH, CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
UM, BUT IT'S RECONSIDERING KIND OF WHAT OUR LAND USE PLAN IS AND, UM, WHAT OUR ZONING IS ON THOSE PIECES OF PROPERTY CONSIDERING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRED SURROUNDING IT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS MAP DEPICTS.
UM, THIS IS IN THE HARRIS COUNTY PORTION OF THE CITY.
UM, FONDER ROAD IS THE, UM, THE, UH, LINE TO THE MOST RIGHT, UM, TOP RIGHT OF THE MAP.
UM, SO ALONG FONDER, WE HAVE SOME VACANT PROPERTIES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE A ZONING DESIGNATION.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE PROPERTY ON EAST HAMPTON, UH, THAT'S SEVERAL, UH, DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TRIED, UH, TO REZONE UNSUCCESSFULLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR GOALS, UM, THESE ARE REALITIES OF THESE PROPERTIES.
UM, WHAT IS THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE FOR THEM? HOW CAN THEY BE DEVELOPED? SHOULD THEY BE DEVELOPED? WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE, UH, ZONING, UH, FOR THESE PROPERTIES? SO I'M JUST GONNA KIND OF SCROLL THROUGH.
LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO DETAIL ON ALL OF THESE AREAS, BUT THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA, UM, OF, UH, THE SMALL, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
THIS IS HIGHWAY 90, UM, NEAR SOUTH CRAVENS, UM, OR TEXAS PARKWAY, I APOLOGIZE.
SO RIGHT UP THE STREET FROM THE CITY HALL THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
CARTRIGHT ROAD, UM, AND NEAR THE INTERSECTION, CARTRIGHT ROAD IN TEXAS PARKWAY.
OKAY? AND THIS IS JUST GOING DOWN SOUTH.
THERE'S A HUGE PIECE OF PROPERTY, NOT HUGE.
THERE'S ABOUT MAYBE 30 ACRES, UM, JUST SOUTH OF GLEN LAKES, EAST OF GLEN LAKES, UM, ALONG HIGHWAY SIX.
IF YOU'RE DRIVING 50 MILES, 60 MILES, UM, AN HOUR DOWN HIGHWAY SIX, YOU MAY NOT PAY A WHOLE LOT OF ATTENTION, UM, TO IT.
BUT, UH, IT IS A, A PIECE OF PROPERTY ALMOST IN THE HEART OF THE CITY THAT HAS YET TO BE, UH, DEVELOPED.
SENIOR ROAD, UH, BEHIND HOUSTON GARDEN CENTER ON HIGHWAY SIX, UM, IS ANOTHER AREA, UM, UH, THAT IS OUT THERE.
AND THEN WE'RE JUST GOING FURTHER EAST, UH, FORT BENTO ROAD, HIGHWAY SIX AND VICKSBURG AREA.
AND THEN, UH, THE AREA THAT WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON AS WELL AS THAT NIGHT ROAD, UM, EXPANSION THAT I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EVERY MEETING SINCE IT OPENED.
UM, BUT AS THAT EXPANSION OPENS, AS IT PROVIDES GREATER ACCESS, UM, IN MOBILITY FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY GOING UP TO AND CONNECTING TO HIGHWAY SIX, IT OPENS UP THAT LAND SURROUNDING IT, UM, MAKING IT MORE ATTRACTIVE, UH, TO DEVELOP.
UM, AND SO THERE ARE CHALLENGES OUT THERE, UM, THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DISCUSS.
UM, BUT THEN ALSO HOW BEST TO POSITION, UH, THIS AREA, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT TO MEET, UH, THE CITY'S GOALS.
OKAY? AND THEN THIS IS THE AREA TO THE EAST OF THE CITY NEAR DARBY LANE AND HIGHWAY SIX.
OKAY, SO THIS IS A PIECE, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, UM, ONE OF THIS, THIS IS PART OF THE TEACHABLE MOMENTS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE CONFERENCE PLAN,
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WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ALL OF THAT.BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN, UH, TOOLS THAT THE CITY CAN USE THAT CONTROL AND CREATE THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT, UM, FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN DIRECTLY CONTROL BUT CAN INFLUENCE.
UM, AND SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD KIND OF, UM, SHEET TO BE MINDFUL OF FOR THE COMMISSION.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS WE GO FORWARD.
BECAUSE AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR SITUATION IS, WHAT, AS WE TALK ABOUT, WHAT OUR GOALS ARE, UNDERSTANDING KIND OF THE TOOLS THAT WE CAN WIELD, WHAT WE CAN EXPAND ON, AND HOW BEST, UM, WE CAN, UH, POSITION, UH, THOSE TOOLS.
OKAY? AND SO WE PRESENTED THIS TO THE COMMISSION.
MARCUS IS SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, I THINK, UM, BUT I'M NOT GONNA PUT HIM ON THE SPOT, BUT THIS IS, UM, THIS WILL BE SOME INFORMATION FOR THE COMMISSION AS WELL, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE, UH, DECISIONS, SOME OF THE CASES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE YOU ALL, UM, UTILITY PROVISION, HOW WE FUND OUR UTILITY, HOW WE EXPAND OUR UTILITIES, ARE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.
AND SOME, I'M GONNA PUT MARCUS ON THE SPOT, IF YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING BRIEFLY, I HAVE TO READ THE SLIDE FIRST.
TO ME, GROWTH DEMANDS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE.
UM, DEVELOPERS MOVE AT A VERY RAPID TIMETABLE.
THEY, THEY MOVE AT THE PACE OF ECONOMICS, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE MOVES AT THE PACE OF SAFETY AND FUNDING AVAILABILITY.
AND SO WHEN WE, WHEN, WHEN, UH, DEVELOPER IS READY TO MOVE ON A PIECE OF LAND, IF THE CITY HASN'T ALREADY DEDICATED, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES FOR THAT AREA, UH, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AT WHERE IT MIGHT LIE WITHIN OUR CURRENT PLAN.
IF, IF THERE'S WATER AVAILABLE, IF THERE'S SEWER AVAILABLE, IF THERE'S NEITHER OF THOSE AVAILABLE, WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET THOSE THERE? UM, AND SOMETIMES TO GET, UH, FUNDING AND DESIGN AND, UH, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION LINED UP, THAT COULD BE ON THE OUTSIDE A TWO YEAR PROCESS.
SO BEING ABLE TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT AHEAD OF TIME AND HAVE THE UTILITIES IN PLACE AND READY FOR THE DEVELOPERS IS, IS KEY TO STRUCTURED GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY.
UH, WHEN, WHEN UNSTRUCTURED GROWTH OCCURS, WHEN, WHEN DEVELOPERS, UH, COME IN AT, AT ALL DIFFERENT ANGLES AND SIDES, UH, AS THEY'RE SOMETIMES WANT TO DO, UH, THAT'S WHERE, UH, WE GET INTO ANNEXATION REQUESTS FOR MUDS, WHERE, WHERE MAYBE A MUD IS ADJACENT, UH, TO A DEVELOPABLE SITE.
AND THE MUD WILL SAY, WELL, IF THE CITY ISN'T AVAILABLE, IF THE CITY ISN'T READY TO PROVIDE SERVICE, WE ARE.
AND THOSE KIND OF, UH, THE, THE SITE DOES GET DEVELOPED, BUT THEN THE TAX REVENUE, UH, DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALL COME TO THE CITY IN THAT INSTANCE.
UH, THE DISTRICTS DO TAKE THEIR PORTION OF IT, AND IF THEY'RE PROVIDING UTILITIES, THEY RIGHTLY SHOULD.
UM, SO THESE ARE CONSIDERATIONS MOVING FORWARD.
AND IT'S, IT'S ALMOST A CHICKEN AND AN EGG OR, OR MAYBE FIELD OF DREAMS MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY, UH, TO PLACE IT.
IF WE BUILD THE UTILITIES OUT THERE.
IF WE MAKE THIS MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN AN AREA, DOES THAT MEAN THE DEVELOPERS WILL COME? AND IF THE DEVELOPERS COME IN AN AREA WHERE WE'RE NOT PREPARED, WHERE THE CONSEQUENCES AND RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A VERY COMPLEX AND CONSTANTLY MOVING PROCESS.
SO WE'RE GONNA SKIP THROUGH TO SPECIFIC USE PERMITS.
AND, UH, SO WHAT WAS PRESENTED, UH, WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS? UH, THE CASE THAT CAME BEFORE YOU ALL, UM, HIGHLIGHTED AGAIN, ONE OF THE SILENT AREAS OF OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, AND SO AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR EXISTING LAND USE, WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, UM, TO MEET THE, THE GROWTH NEEDS OF THE FUTURE TO MEET THE DESIRES OF THE FUTURE, THE OTHER AREAS, UM, THAT ARE KIND OF SILENT, THAT ARE NEEDED FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, MAY BE AREAS THAT MAY PULL PROPERTY OFF OF THE TAX ROLES.
AND SO THOSE ARE PROPERTIES SUCH AS PLACES OF ASSEMBLIES, OUR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, UM, OUR CHURCHES, OUR EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES.
UM, THOSE ALL RIGHT NOW UNDER ZONING FALL UNDER SPECIFIC USE PERMITS.
SO WHEN THE COMMISSION, WHEN THEY'RE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION, THEY COME IN THE FORM OF SEEKING APPROVAL FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WHICH ARE SITE SPECIFIC, UM, KIND OF CONSIDERATIONS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE LOOKING AT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE QUESTION OF WHERE IS THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION, UM, FOR THESE, UH, TYPES OF FACILITIES? AND THE COMMISSION.
THIS COMMISSION OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS HAS HAD, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, LOCATIONS THAT HAVE HAD TRAFFIC CONSTRAINTS
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OR TRAFFIC ISSUES, TRAFFIC COMPLICATIONS, UTILITIES, UM, IS ANOTHER, UM, ISSUE AS WELL.YOU KNOW, HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF LAND, UM, YOU KNOW, LAND THAT WE CAN POSITION, UH, TO HELP MEET OUR, OUR DESIRE TO BALANCE OUR TAX BASE.
UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS IN THAT, BUT WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT MAKE US, YOU KNOW, A FULL SERVICE COMMUNITY.
SO THE CONVERSATION WILL BE LOOKING AT KIND OF WHERE YOU, WHERE, UM, ARE THE APPROPRIATE SITE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THOSE TYPES OF LAND USES.
AND SO THEN FINALLY WHAT, UM, I'M GONNA PUT, UM, OUT THERE IS THERE WAS, UH, THE QUESTION ON THE COST RETURN OR THE COST IMPACT ON DEVELOPMENT, ON THE MOBILITY PLAN SIDE AND MAKING CHANGES TO THOSE PLANS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, UM, IS ADDING AND CLARIFYING, UM, THAT FISCAL IMPACT.
UM, SO FISCAL IMPACT AND LAND USE ARE RELATED.
UM, SO THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE, UM, DO IMPACT, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE, THE RETURN, UM, THAT, THAT THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY CAN HAVE ON CITY SERVICES, ON CITY PROVISION, UM, YOU KNOW, OF ITS SERVICES, THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME MODELS, UM, OF FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WE WILL START TO APPLY TO OUR ZONING CASES, UM, SO THAT THE COMMISSION CAN HAVE A FULL KIND OF VIEW, UM, TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, UM, OF WHAT THOSE POTENTIAL COSTS ARE.
UM, SO THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT FIT AND CHECK EVERY BOX.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT, THE, THE LAND USE IS NOT A NUISANCE.
UM, IT'S COMPATIBLE, UM, WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND IT WILL HAVE A POSITIVE, UM, FISCAL IMPACT, YOU KNOW, ON THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE MAY BE SOME THAT MAY NOT CHECK ALL OF THOSE BOXES.
UM, SO WHAT OUR GOAL IS, IS TO PROVIDE, UH, THIS COMMISSION WITH THAT INFORMATION, WITH THOSE RESOURCES, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMPLETELY TIED WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO IT'S TIED TO UTILITY PLANNING, IT'S TIED TO TRAFFIC PLANNING, MOBILITY PLANNING, AND HOW THE CITY INVESTS ITS RESOURCES, UM, OVER TIME.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST A, A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE.
UM, THIS, UH, PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION, SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT, SO BE ABLE TO MARK IT UP, DISSECT IT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND PROVIDE COMMENTS BACK.
UM, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE, UM, THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS APPRAISAL REPORT SO THAT WE CAN START, UH, GETTING FEEDBACK, UM, FROM THE COMMISSION.
SO WITH THAT, THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
ANY OTHER VERY WELL COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT FOR JENNIFER TONIGHT? JENNIFER, CAN YOU JUST LOOK INTO WHAT CITY HAS A COMPREHENSIVE LONG-TERM PLAN THAT HAS TEA MM-HMM.
YEAH, AND THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION,
THERE ARE GONNA BE TIMES WHERE THE, THE PLAN HAS TO BE MODIFIED.
UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF IT IS IT GIVES YOU, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO PLUG IN, YOU KNOW, YOUR OTHER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TOOLS.
SO YOU LAY THAT PLAN OUT, THE CITY CAN GO OUT AND ACTIVELY RECRUIT, YOU KNOW, AND TRY TO ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS TO THE CITY.
THE CITY CAN PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BUDGET, YOU KNOW, IN ACCORDANCE WITH TRYING TO PUSH IT TOWARDS THAT GOAL.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY DOES NOT CONTROL THE MARKET.
THE CITY DOES NOT CONTROL, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS.
SO, CERTAIN THINGS DON'T HAPPEN.
THEN THE CITY HAS TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE.
SO WHETHER IT'S THAT FIVE YEAR MARK OR WHETHER IT'S THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS TO GO BACK AND, AND REEVALUATE KIND OF WHERE IT'S AT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE IT, IT'S MOVING IN THE DIRECTION THAT IT WANTS TO.
SHE SAID, DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH.
SOME OF THE LAND THAT IS UNDEVELOPED WAS PLACED INTO ARBITRARY COATING WHERE IT'S GIVEN A DESIGNATION JUST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ONE BEFORE.
THAT HAS TEETH THAT IT, IT WAS ZONING WAS PLACED ON IT, NOT ASKED FOR.
AND 20 YEARS OF DOING THIS, IT'S, YOU WORK SO HARD ON THE PLAN AND THEN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, IT
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REALLY IS JUST THAT, IT'S JUST PLAN.IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY REAL WEIGHT.
UM, SO WHAT'S KIND OF NEXT STEPS FOR US FROM HERE? SO NEXT STEPS IS WE WILL START TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL, UM, SOME MORE OF THE UPDATES.
UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON BASELINE DATA, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS, SO LIKE THE MOBILITY PLANS, SOME OF THE GOALS THAT ARE IN THERE, UM, OUR DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES, UM, OVER THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, AND PRESENTING THAT INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, I'LL, NEXT MONTH I'LL PROVIDE A TIMELINE.
I'LL DO A TIMELINE SIMILAR TO ENGINEERINGS, UM, WITH THE, THE STEP-BY-STEP, SO YOU KNOW, EXACTLY KINDA WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE GATHERING THAT DATA SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT IT.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TURN THE AC BACK ON.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MR. O'MALLEY? YES, WE'RE DONE.
WE ARE DONE TILL NEXT TIME, WHICH TONIGHT AND THANK YOU.