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SO, THE, UM, MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? SECOND.
DO I JUST NEED TO SCOOT IT OVER? OKAY.
[4. COMMISSION REPORTS]
I DON'T HAVE A REPORT.UM, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ONE? NONE.
[a. Development Services]
SERVICES.I DO NOT HAVE A REPORT TONIGHT.
SO, I DO HAVE A REPORT FOR THE COMMISSION TONIGHT.
UH, IT, WE ARE NOW HAVE ENTERED AS OF JULY 1ST, THE THIRD QUARTER.
SO I COME TO GIVE YOU THE, UH, PHYSICAL YEAR FOR THE THIRD QUARTER REPORT.
SO FIRST WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS NICELY CREATED DEVELOPMENT MAP, YOU WILL SEE, UH, UH, MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS ALL OVER THE MAP.
THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE YELLOW ARE THE CONVEYED AS THE PERMITS.
SO THIS ACT OF PERMITS THAT ARE IN OUR SYSTEM NOW THAT WE WANT TO, UH, CONVEY TO THE COMMISSION.
ALSO, THE ONES INSIDE OF THE GRAY ARE YOUR, UM, YOUR ACT PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, I'M SORRY, ZONING CASES.
THAT'S YOUR ACTIVE ZONING CASES.
SO WE CAN SEE THE AREAS WHERE DEVELOPMENTS ARE LOCATED.
WE, WE ALSO CAN SEE MOST OF THEM ARE OFF OF MAJOR CORRIDORS, TEXAS PARKWAY, CARTWRIGHT 10 92 SIENNA PARKWAY, HIGHWAY SIX, FORT BENTO ROAD.
THAT'S OUR MAIN CORRIDORS FOR OUR MUNICIPALITY AND OUR E T J.
SO, ONE, I JUST WANT TO, UH, DISCUSS ONE THING REALLY QUICK THAT IN REGARDS TO, UH, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS, PARTICULARLY, UH, ACADIA SOUTH SIENNA, THE SOUTH PART OF SIENNA AND BEVERLY WOODS, THESE THREE DEVELOPMENTS ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT TO THE CITY BECAUSE THE, THE TOTAL ACREAGE THAT THEY COVER AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF LOTS EQUAL TO TOTAL ACREAGE.
AND THAT BRINGS, UH, A LARGE NUMBER OF OUR AREA THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED, TAXES THAT'S GOING ON THE ROAD VERSUS UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT'S SITTING THERE.
SO ONE OF THE AREAS I WANNA FOCUS ON IS THAT 10 92 CORRIDOR.
AND ON THIS MAP, YOU CAN ALSO SEE A LITTLE PART OF HIGHWAY SIX CORRIDOR.
SO IN OUR 2017 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I'M NOT GONNA MENTION A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I MEAN, GOING INTO THE DEPTH OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT OUR INSIDE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT NAMES THE CARTWRIGHT, TEXAS PARKWAY AND 10 92 CORRIDOR.
I'M PRETTY, AS I'M, UM, SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE WE ARE GONNA A ADD THE HIGHWAY SIX IN SIENNA, UM, INSIDE OF THAT AREA.
BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE MORE DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE HIGHWAY SIX CORRIDOR.
UH, WE'VE MAGNIFIED THAT AREA.
AND LASTLY, WE CAN ALSO SEE MORE ON ALONG HIGHWAY SIX, ESPECIALLY RIGHT THERE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO WHERE THAT SIENNA PARKWAY,
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SIENNA RIDGE, LAKE OLYMPIA, UH, PARKWAY, FORT BEND, TOLL ROAD.THAT'S A VERY HIGH, UH, AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND THAT AREA AND THE PLAN, THE FUTURE PLANS WE HAVE FOR THE CITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE IN THE FUTURE, AND THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE NOW.
AND LASTLY, THIS IS JUST SOME OTHER AREAS ALONG TEXAS PARKWAY, UH, CORRIDOR THAT CONVEY LARGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE WANT THE COMMISSION TO RECOGNIZE.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, ALSO KNOWN AS PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES.
SO IN THE FIRST QUARTER, WE HAD 16 DEVELOPMENTS IN THE SECOND, I MEAN, 16 PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS WHERE WE ACTUALLY SAT DOWN, UH, IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY WITH DEVELOPERS.
AND WE GAVE THEM INFORMATION TO HELP THEM TO PROCESS THE NEED FOR DEVELOPMENT SO THAT IT CAN HAVE WHAT I CALL A GOAL SO THEY CAN PURSUE.
THEY HAVE ASKED ALL THEIR QUESTIONS.
SO IF YOU LOOK, UH, FOR THE THIRD QUARTER, WE HAD EXACTLY 42 PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, AGAIN, JUST LIKE THE SECOND QUARTER.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE MOVED UP FROM THE EARLIER MONTHS WAS AT 16, THEN THE SECOND QUARTER, 42 AND THE THIRD 40, UH, ALSO 42.
SO IT SHOWS THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT IS STAYING STEADY AND STRONG.
UH, PLUS ALSO, I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
IT'S JUST NOT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE OUR ENGINEERS PART OF THAT, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, OUR, UH, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER, AND OTHER ENGINEERS PART OF THE, OF THE DEPARTMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS, UH, TEAM PART OF THAT, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, I'M SORRY, PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.
ALSO, WE HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, OUR HEALTH INSPECTORS.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR FIRE, FIRE PREVENTIONS AT THE MEETING.
AND WE ALSO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT THE MEETING TOO, WHICH TRIES TO HELP BUSINESS GROWTH INSIDE THE CITY.
SO ALL OF US COME TOGETHER IN THIS ONE STOP SHOP REVIEW TEAM, WHERE WE ACTUALLY TALK TO THE APPLICANT.
THEY, THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO ANSWER ALL OF THEIR QUESTIONS.
THEY COME UP WITH A, A COME CONCEPTUAL CO A CONCEPT PLAN.
WE LOOK AT THAT CONCEPT PLAN WE EVALUATED, HAVE, DIDN'T HAVE THE MEETING WITH THEM.
AND, UH, THEN WE ALSO GIVE THEM, ASK THEM QUESTIONS.
AND IT'S A CONSTANT BACK AND FORTH WHERE WE ARE SHARING INFORMATION TO HELP THE DEVELOPER BETTER UNDERSTAND MISSOURI CITY AND TO GO FORWARD WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
SO LA UM, ALSO WANNA TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT VERSUS, UH, THIS QUARTER VERSUS PREVIOUS YEAR.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT, ON THIS CHART RIGHT HERE, YOU WILL SEE THE Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4 OF EACH YEAR, UH, I MEAN CONVEYED INTO EACH YEAR.
SO REMEMBER, OUR, UH, FISCAL YEAR STARTS IN OCTOBER.
SO WE HAVE OCTOBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
IT'S THE F OCTOBER, DECEMBER, AND JANUARY IS THE FIRST QUARTER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH IS THE SECOND QUARTER.
APRIL, MAY, AND JUNE IS THE THIRD.
AND JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER IS THE FOURTH.
SO IN 2023, YES, WE HAD 16 DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FIRST QUARTER.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT 2022, WE HAD 33 IN 20, 21, 36.
SO YES, IT WENT DOWN THAT FIRST QUARTER.
BUT AT, ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER QUARTERS ACTUALLY WENT UP.
SO DEVELOPMENT IS WEIRD BECAUSE WE DON'T ACTUALLY CONTROL DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPERS COME TO US AND WANT TO, UM, PURSUE BUILDING SOMETHING OR SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN MISSOURI CITY.
SO PART OF THAT, UH, THIS YEAR, OUR FIRST QUARTER, I WANNA GO MORE INTO DEPTH THAN JUST PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.
SO IN OUR, WHERE IT SAYS UP THERE AT THE TOP PRE-APP, THAT'S ALSO OUR PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.
THE WORD THAT WE USE INTERCHANGEABLY, BECAUSE THE WORD PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE IS INSIDE OF OUR CITY ORDINANCE, WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING, UH, PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE.
BUT MOST OF THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT WORLD USE THE WORD PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.
SO WE GO BACK AND FORTH USING BOTH WORDS, BUT FOR LEGAL PURPOSES, WE, UH, THE WORD IS PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES.
SO IN OUR FIRST QUARTER, WE HAD SIXTEENS 42 AND 42.
BUT THEN AFTER THAT, DID THE DEVELOPMENTS ACTUALLY GO THROUGH, DID THEY ACTUALLY SUBMIT SOMETHING? IT CAME TO THE, UH, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THEN ONCE IT'S APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN THEY GO INTO ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REVIEW.
THAT'S WHERE THEY LEAVE THE PLANNING PHASE
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AND ACTUALLY GO INTO A ACTUAL DESIGN PHASE WHERE THEY'RE DESIGNING THEIR DEVELOPMENT.AND WE ARE REVIEWING IT THE SAME PRE-DEVELOPMENT TEAM, ENGINEERING PLANNING, AND GIS ALL LOOK AT THIS, ALL THE, THE DEVELOPMENTS AND HELP.
UM, THE REVIEW, THE DEVELOPMENTS ALSO PARKLAND, UH, IS NEXT ALSO.
SO WE HAD FOUR PARKLANDS THIS YEAR.
AND THEN PLATS, WHICH WE'RE ALL AWARE OF PLATS.
UH, NEXT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRE-APPLICATION.
UH, WELL, I WANNA TALK ABOUT APPLIED VERSUS ACTUALLY HAVE.
SO THIS IS THE NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR DIFFERENT, UH, APPLICATIONS.
UH, SO WE HAVE OUR DESIGN REVIEWS, ZONING, TEXT, UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF APPLICATIONS INSIDE OF A CHART.
AND WE GIVE A PERCENTAGE ON THE DIFFERENT, UH, SEC, UH, APPLICATIONS IN, IN A, UH, STATISTICAL, UH, ANALYSIS.
NEXT, ALSO, I WANNA TALK ABOUT OUR ZONING ACTIVITY.
UH, SO THIS IS THE PERCENTAGE OF OUR ZONING ACTIVITY NUMBER WE HAVE, UH, OUT THE YEAR.
SO WE DO A AVERAGE OF ONE PER MONTH.
NEXT I WANT TO GO THROUGH OUR PLATTING ACTIVITY.
THE AVERAGE IS NINE PER MONTH.
AND THEN ALSO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR PLATTING, UH, ACTIVITY IN REGARDS TO PARKLAND DEDICATION.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY HAVE A KEY ROLE IN PARKLAND DEDICATION, BECAUSE FIRST, IF SOMEONE, UH, INSIDE OF OUR ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE TO DONATE SO MUCH, DEDICATE SO MUCH LAND FOR PARK LAND.
SO FIRST IT GOES TO THE PARK COMMISSION, THEN IT COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I'M SORRY, THE PARKS BOARD, THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH LAND IS ACTUALLY BEING DEDICATED FOR PARKS AND THEN THAT THOSE, SOME PEOPLE DECIDE NOT TO ACTUALLY DEDICATE PARKS AND ACTUALLY PAY THE IMPACT FEE.
AND SO THIS IS THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM IMPACT FEES FOR PARK LAND DEDICATION.
AND LASTLY, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REVIEW AND THE NUMBER OF, UH, AVERAGE REPORT FOR A MONTH FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REVIEW AND OUR PERMITTING ACTIVITY.
AND, AND ALSO OUR, UM, ONE, OUR MAJOR PERMITS IS OUR, UM, IS THE AVERAGE OF NINE PER MONTH ALSO.
SO LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST FROM MISSOURI CITY, BUT IN THE REGION.
THE GREATER HOUSTON PARTNERSHIPS, UH, WROTE AN ARTICLE AND THEY BASED THAT OFF OF THE CENSUS THAT HOUSTON IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COMMUNITIES AFTER COVID.
SO, UH, I JUST WANNA SHOW, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY HOUSTON'S THE FORD LARGEST CITY, WHICH IT IS THE FORT LARGEST CITY, BUT WE ARE THE FIFTH LARGEST METROPOLITAN CITY.
SO PLANNERS LIKE TO LOOK AT METROPOLITAN AREAS BECAUSE OUR CITY, MISSOURI CITY, IS PART OF THE HOUSTON METROPOLITAN AREA.
SO WHEN SOMEONE TO BUILD, WANNA BUILD LARGE, UM, UH, UM, DEVELOPMENT LIKE SIENNA FOR EXAMPLE, THEY CAN PICK ANYWHERE.
SO HOW CAN WE GET THAT HERE IN MISSOURI CITY? CAUSE OUR CITY IS AN EDGE CITY ATTACHED TO THE OVERALL HOUSTON METROPOLITAN AREA.
ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW, BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE, UM, WELL, I'M SORRY YOU DO FOR THE AUDIENCE, UM, THIS IS A CLARIFYING QUESTION BETWEEN PAGE EIGHT AND THEN THE, WE CAN GO WITH PAGE 15.
UM, ARE, ARE THE NUMBERS ON PAGE 15? I, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.
ARE THOSE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS OR ARE THOSE A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS IN THOSE NUMBERS? GIVE ONE SECOND.
WELL, IT'S 15 ON MY PRESENTATION, NOT THE ONE THAT'S UP THERE.
WHAT'S THE TITLE? ONE, UH, PRE-DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE? PRE AND THEN IN PARENTHESES PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BRING IT HOME.
SO THAT 42 THAT WAS ON THERE AND, OR WELL, YOU CAN KEEP IT ON THAT SLIDE.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO GATHER IS, ARE THOSE JUST APPLICATIONS AND WHAT WE ENDED UP ON, GOING BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE OF THE MAP, ROUGHLY 25 THAT ARE PLATS.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RATIO FROM, UH, APPLICATIONS
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TO, UH, TO PRE-DEVELOPMENT CURRENT? YEAH.SO YES, SO THE NUMBER, SO THIS ACTUALLY CONVEYED THE NUMBER OF ACTUAL MEETINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD WITH A DEVELOPER.
OR, OR DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE ACTUALLY SAT DOWN IN A ROOM.
BUT IF I GO TO THE, UH, THIS SLIDE HERE, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT WAS ACTUALLY FILLED OUT.
SO IT IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE FILLING OUT AN APPLICATION VERSUS US THEM ACTUALLY WANT TO SIT DOWN AND ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING.
SOMETIMES THE DEVELOPER IS NOT READY YET TO HAVE A MEETING, UH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT GATHERED ALL OF THE, UH, INFORMATION OR CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO CONVEY TO US SO THAT WE CAN ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS.
SO THEN MY NEXT, UM, QUESTION THEN, DO WE HAVE MR, CAN I ASK YEAH.
WAS PART OF YOUR QUESTION, WHAT TRANSLATES FROM A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING INTO ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION? I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE RATE OF TOTAL APPLICATIONS TO PLA LIKE HOW, HOW OFTEN DO WE, OR WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE SEE FROM, I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A LARGE GROUP TO WHO ACTUALLY CONTINUES ON WITH THE PROCESS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I'LL, I'LL SAY FOR ON THE PLATTING ACTIVITY, UM, A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THAT SEEING A SOUTH AREA MM-HMM.
UM, AND SO, UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE REFLECTED SO MUCH IN THAT PRE-APP APPLICATION MEETING NUMBER.
UM, BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE A LAND PLAN, UH, THAT THEY'RE CONTINUING, UH, TO DEVELOP FROM.
UM, SOME OF THOSE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING NUMBERS MAY BE APPLICATIONS THAT MAY GO STRAIGHT TO PERMITS, UM, OR THEY MAY, YOU KNOW, BE APPLICATIONS THAT RESULT IN SOME FORM THAT COMES, UH, BEFORE THE B AND C.
SO THEY MAY GO A DIFFERENT AVENUE.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS.
BECAUSE, UH, EVENTUALLY WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS HOW ARE WE, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF GROWTH, LIKE JUST SEEING THE ACTUAL GROWTH.
LIKE IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE THE MEETINGS WHICH ARE, WHICH ARE GREAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPERS ARE, MAY NOT HAVE ALL THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF WE TRACK HOW MANY ACTUALLY BUILD AND HAVE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE IN THE CITY.
UM, SO THAT, I CAN LEAVE THAT QUESTION THERE CUZ YOU ANSWERED IT AND I APPRECIATE IT.
UM, THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE, AND I WILL BE BRIEF, HOW ARE WE USING, UM, THE DATA THAT YOU PROVIDED? ARE WE SETTING BENCHMARKS? LIKE I NOTICED YOU HAD THE TREND THAT GOES BACK THREE YEARS, WHICH IS HELPFUL, BUT ARE WE USING THAT YEAR OVER YEAR TO MEASURE SUCCESS? GOOD QUESTION.
SO YES, UH, W WELL, WE DO NOT SET BENCHMARKS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE DO NOT CONTROL DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPERS COME TO US AS BASED ON ECONOMIC REASONING OF THEIR, OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, OF THE ENVIRONMENT OF COMMUNITY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, DURING COVID, A LARGE NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS WENT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION, THE COUNTRY, THE WORLD WAS IN.
SO NO, WE DO NOT ACTUALLY CONTROL DEVELOPMENTS, BUT WHAT THE CITY DOES DO IS, IS TRY TO, UH, MARKET OUR CITY TO SHOW THAT THIS IS THE PLACE TO BUILD OR THIS IS THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE YOUR BUSINESS IN CERTAIN TYPE OF BUSINESSES.
AND MOSTLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKS ON TRYING TO PULL IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
AND I, I WASN'T SPEAKING MORE SO TO CONTROL FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, BUT WITH YOUR MARKETING EXAMPLE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, IF IF WE ARE MEASURING, WE HAD 50 LAST QUARTER AND FOR WHATEVER THE REASON MAY BE, THE BUSINESSES ARE COMING, WE HAVE A HUNDRED THIS QUARTER, WELL WE KNOW WE, LET'S TRY AND KEEP THAT TREND UP SO THERE WOULD BE MORE MARKETING EFFORTS BECAUSE WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THE CITY.
SO I'M MORE SO SPEAKING ANECDOTALLY, NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CONTROL.
AND ALSO I JUST WANNA ADD TO THAT, THAT THIS IS, UM, KIND OF GOES INTO ALSO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO ONE WAY IS THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, AND THE PLANNING DIVISION, WE HAVE A WAY OF TRYING TO, UH, CONTROL, UH, LAND USE ACTIVITIES.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, ONE OF THOSE TOOLS WE USE IS ZONING, UH, IN OTHER TWO TO TRY TO MARKET OUR CITY BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OVERALL DESIGN OF THE CITY.
AND I I WAS JUST GONNA ADD TO YOUR QUESTION IN TERMS OF BENCHMARKS, I THINK IN TERMS OF THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, WE MEASURE HOW SUCCESSFUL, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BECAUSE THE POINT OF THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING IS TO HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, AN APPLICANT OR A BUSINESS OR A DEVELOPER OR WHOMEVER TO NAVIGATE THE PROCESS.
AND WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGES, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS.
SO WE TAILOR THOSE PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE GOING THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY'S ROLE IS, WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, PERMIT SUPPLY, WHAT DEVELOPMENT
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STANDARDS SUPPLY.SO THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF MEASURE AND USE THAT INFORMATION.
AND I DIDN'T HAVE A PEN, SO I'M, I WROTE MY QUESTIONS ON MY PHONE, THAT'S WHY I KEEP LOOKING DOWN.
THE LAST QUESTION, AND I'LL BE DONE, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I'M GONNA PUT MY PARKS FOUNDATION HAT ON.
DO WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF DEVELOPERS WHO GIVE, UM, CASH IN LIEU OF, ARE YOU TALKING TO ME OR, OH, DO WE, DO WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF DEVELOPERS WHO GIVE CASH IN LIEU OF PARKLAND DEDICATION? WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT TODAY.
THEY'RE JUST CURIOUS IF WE WE CAN, WE CAN MEASURE THAT.
YEAH, WE CAN PULL THAT NUMBER.
AND DOES THE CITY HAVE A STANCE OR PREFERENCE ON THAT? I, I KNOW YOU DON'T CONTROL BACK TO YOUR COMMENT, BUT DOES THE CITY HAVE A, A PREFERENCE ON? SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO AN OPEN DOOR, UM, FOR US TO CONNECT THE COMMISSION WITH THE PARKS BOARD AND THEN ALSO THE MASTER PARKS PLAN.
THAT IS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S GOOD TO BE ALIGNED AND KNOW, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT THOSE POLICIES ARE AND WHAT THOSE GOALS ARE.
THERE'S CERTAIN MARKS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, UM, SIZE, YOU KNOW, PARKS, PROVISION OF PARKS, HOW, YOU KNOW, CLOSE WE ARE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY TO PARKS.
UM, SO ALL OF THAT IS IN THAT PARKS MASTER PLAN.
UM, AND SO THAT GOES INTO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON LAND VERSUS CASH.
UM, IN
REALLY QUICKLY, JUST FOR HOUSEKEEPING, THERE'S SOMEONE IN THE QUEUE AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND WHO THAT PERSON IS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ENGINEERING, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE ZONING AMENDMENT FOR ROYAL LIVING AT FORT BEND, THAT APPLICATION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING, BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY COMMENTS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN.
YOU CAN SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS IF YOU WISH.
[c. Engineering]
ENGINEERING.UM, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
UH, PUBLIC WORKS WENT ON, UH, GOT TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF TRAVELING THIS PAST MONTH.
WE WENT TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION LAST WEEK AND WE ACCEPTED TWO AWARDS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
UH, UH, FIRST WAS THE SMALL CITY'S PROJECT OF THE YEAR, AND THAT WAS FOR OUR FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX AND SECOND WAS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL MANAGER OF THE YEAR AND WATER RESOURCES.
AND THAT WAS SHAHI KUMAR, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND CITY ENGINEER.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL CONFERENCE.
WE ACTUALLY, AND, AND, AND WE DID DO, UH, THREE PRESENTATIONS AT THAT CONFERENCE TOO, ONE OF WHICH WAS ON THE MOBILITY AND I TS MASTER PLAN, WHICH WE PRESENTED HERE.
SO, UH, IT WOULD, THAT ONE WAS MUCH MORE TECHNICAL AND, UH, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD TIME ACTUALLY.
UM, AND, UH, VERY WELL RECEIVED BY THE ENGINEERING COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THAT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL NEXT MONTH.
TELL ME WHAT THE KEY POINTS WERE TO DESERVE WINNING THOSE AWARDS ON THE FIRE STATION AS WELL AS THE WATER CONSERVATION, UM, PROFESSIONAL MANAGER OF THE YEAR.
SO THEY, THEY DIDN'T STATE, UH, VERY SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY WE HAD WON IN THAT.
UH, WE, WE PUT IT FORWARD, UH, AS THE, THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH THE FIRE STATION.
UM, THE, OUR ABILITY TO GET IT DONE ON TIME UNDER BUDGET, ACTUALLY, UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER DAVIS MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS PROJECT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN MYSELF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
SO,
AND TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR IS PRETTY GREAT.
I MEAN, UH, FOR THE ENTIRE SOUTHEAST TEXAS REACH IN MISSOURI CITY, UH, TAKING TWO AWARDS AND, UH, PRESENTING THREE, THREE PRESENTATIONS.
UM, WE, THAT PUTS US NOT ON PAR WITH, WITH WHAT HOUSTON DOES AND GETS, BUT, UH, CLOSER TO THAT AND, AND FAR ABOVE CITIES OF SIMILAR SIZE.
UM, THE WORK THAT WE DO IN THIS CITY IS, UH, JUST, UH, MILES AHEAD OF WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE COMPETING CITIES AND, AND IT SHOWS.
I MEAN, I GUESS, CUZ I'M GETTING SO OLD AND I'VE BEEN HERE SO LONG, BUT WE USED TO SAY, SO WHAT DO THE OTHER CITIES DO? LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE OTHER CITIES DO AND SEE IF WE CAN BE LIKE THEM.
AND NOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHAT DOES MISSOURI CITY DO? AND CUZ WE WANT TO BE LIKE MISSOURI CITY.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN FUN TO WATCH.
UM, YEAH, FIRE STATION SIX, IT WAS BUILT ALONGSIDE A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.
UH, WE DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF GETTING IT THERE ON TIME.
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UH, ESPECIALLY IN A CLIMATE WHERE, YOU KNOW, PRICES WERE GOING UP ON, UH, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYTHING.IT'S ALSO A VERY IMPRESSIVE FACILITY.
WE HAD A CHANCE TO TOUR IT AFTER IT OPENED AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE, THE DESIGN WORK AND THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE.
IT'S, IT STANDS OUT THERE, SO THAT'S GREAT.
[6. PUBLIC COMMENT]
COMMENT, IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS THAT WANNA BE MADE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, NOW'S THE TIME.IF YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
UH, YES, MY NAME IS GEORGE WHITE AND I LIVE AT 33, UH, EM EMERALD, UH, 28 33 EMERALD LAKE DRIVE.
UH, I CA REALLY CAME UP FOR THE PROJECT THAT WAS ON WATTS PLANTATION THAT WAS PLANNED, THAT'S BEEN PULLED, AND I GUESS THAT'S GOOD NEWS, UH, OR MAYBE THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK.
BUT, UH, GENERALLY WHAT MY COMMENT IS ABOUT, I LIVE IN, OF COURSE, THE SIENNA PLANTATION AREA AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF APARTMENTS, UH, BEING BUILT RIGHT IN, UH, THE SIENNA AREA.
AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT THAT WATTS PLANTATION TRACK WOULD TURN INTO MULTIFAMILY.
AND OF COURSE I THINK THAT WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, UH, HOUSING FOR ALL, BUT A CONCENTRATION OF IT DENIGRATES THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
I LIVE IN THE ACREAGE COMMUNITY.
I'VE BEEN IN THAT, THAT COMMUNITY FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN MY WHOLE, THE WHOLE AREA EVOLVE AND CHANGE.
BUT ONE THING CONCERNED ME WHEN I WAS DRIVING TO HIGHWAY SIX AND I SAW, UM, THESE LITTLE MINI HOUSES BEING BUILT ON HIGHWAY SIX, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THEM, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE, UH, IN FRESNO, THEY'RE LIKE 500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSES.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S NOT MISSOURI CITY, BUT I HOPE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING APPLICATIONS, UH, IN OUR AREA, THAT YOU THINK ABOUT HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE A LOT OF PRIDE IN OUR HOME AND, AND, AND THE AREA THAT WE LIVE IN.
SO WHEN YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, UH, I UNDERSTAND YOU SEND NOTICES OUT AND WE GET THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK TO YOU, BUT THERE ARE REAL PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THOSE HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN GO UP IN OUR AREA.
I MEAN, THE QUALITY COULD BE BETTER.
AND, UH, AND SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL AS I'M SURE YOU ARE IN MISSOURI CITY.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT ON WATTS PLANTATION, I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE THE DENSITY, THERE WAS GONNA BE A LOT OF HOUSES IN THE SMALL AREA AND THERE WAS NO INFORMATION ON THE QUALITY OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
AND, UH, OF COURSE THERE HAS A BEARING ON THE HOUSES THAT ARE IN THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
AND I, I HOPE YOU, YOU TAKE THOSE THINGS IN CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT NEW DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
THE OTHER THING THAT KIND OF CONCERNED ME, AND IT HAS IT'S ALREADY BEING BUILT, IS THE RENTAL HOUSING THAT'S ON HIGHWAY SIX THAT, THAT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED.
IT'S A RENTAL COMMUNITY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY GOOD QUALITY HOUSING, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING NEW.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS BEEN DONE IN A LOT OF PLACES.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS LOOKED AT HOW THOSE COMMUNITIES EVOLVE OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, AND THAT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE MAINTAINED OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND IN SUCH THAT IT, IT DOESN'T DENIGRATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD HERE IN MISSOURI CITY.
UH, AND SO WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS TODAY IN, IN DEVELOPING ALL THE LAND IN MISSOURI CITY, BUT IF WE'RE NOT REAL THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO LOOK IN 20 YEARS AND HOW IT'S GONNA BE HABITATED IN 20 YEARS, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE COMMUNITY WE THOUGHT WE WERE PLANNING TO HAVE.
AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A CONCERN THAT MANY, MANY OF US MAY HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN IN, UH, THE SIENNA AREA FOR A LONG TIME.
MR. WHITE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO ROLL.
SORRY, BUT YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, HOW YOU GUYS DOING? GOOD.
MY NAME IS BOB DAVID, I'M HERE WITH MY WIFE O CUMBERLAND.
WE LIVE IN, UH, SILVER RIDGE ESTATES, UH, 45 11 CREEK POINT LANE, AND WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAME.
SO WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW,
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ROUGHLY, AND, UH, NEW TO THAT AREA, BUT NOT NEW TO MISSOURI CITY.WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN PALMERI COURT IN, UH, LAKE OLYMPIA FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.
AND, UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC THAT IT'LL BRING RIGHT ON WATTS ROAD THERE.
AND, UH, OF COURSE KNIGHT, YOU GUYS, WE LOVE THAT IT'S OPENED UP THE WAY IT IS KNIGHT ROAD.
UM, AND, AND MY WIFE CONCERN IS, UH, BY THE WAY, JUST A SEGUE, IF WE CAN CONSIDER PUTTING UP SOME SIGNS ON NIGHT ROAD FOR THE DEERS AND THE TURTLE THAT ARE PASSING THERE, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
BUT YEAH, THE, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUALITY AND JUST CONSIDERING THAT IT'S CONDOS MORE THAN LIKELY IS GONNA BE OWNERS WHO ARE LEASING OUT THAT HOME, YOU KNOW, RENTING OUT THAT PROPERTY.
AND MUCH AS WHAT HE'S SAYING, I BELIEVE IT WILL BE THE SAME TO WHERE YEARS DOWN THE LINE, THE FOLKS WHO ARE COMING IN THERE TO HABITATE THAT COMMUNITY ARE NOT NECESSARILY ADOPTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO WE'RE CONCERNED, AND THEREFORE CRIME ALSO RIGHT.
UM, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
SO I'M GLAD THAT THEY PULLED OUT.
UH, WE WERE HERE TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUR PROTESTS ON AND, UM, HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T COME BACK WITH IT, BUT IF THEY DO, WE'LL BE HERE AGAIN TO, TO MAKE MENTION OF IT.
UM, BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO, DO I HAVE TO CLOSE THAT BECAUSE WE OPENED IT WITH ACTUAL DISCUSSION? NO, UM, I DID WANNA SAY THE, THE RENTAL PROPERTIES, UH, THE DINNERSTEIN ARE A WELL KNOWN DEVELOPMENT COMPANY THAT'S THREE GENERATIONS IN HOUSTON.
UM, THEY'VE DONE THIS PRODUCT IN THREE DIFFERENT TOWNS, UH, SAW A GREAT PRESENTATION ON THOSE THREE PRODUCTS AND IT WAS IMPRESSIVE THAT THEY WANTED TO COME TO MISSOURI CITY.
THE DENNIS DEANS CAN GO ANYWHERE THEY WANT, UH, AND THEY'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN DOWNTOWN OFF WESTHEIMER.
SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ENGAGED AND IT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE WANT THE SAME THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT YOU DO.
AND THE MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, UH, IN THE PROCESS, THE BETTER.
SO THE CONSENT, CONSENT AGENDA,
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JENNIFER, WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE HAVE ONE THAT IS A NEGATIVE MM-HMM.AND SO DO YOU WANT ME TO READ ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND THE PRESENTATION BE GIVEN ON ALL OF THEM, OR READ THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN SEE IF YOU WANT TO READ THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN THE, THE ITEM SEVEN C, RIGHT.
UM, WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN BY ITSELF.
SO THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, NUMBER ONE,
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CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF ARCADIA DETENTION RESERVE.[2. Consider an application of a final plat of Sienna Section 50C]
APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT OF SIENNA, SECTION 50 C.CONSIDER AN APPLICATION REVISED
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CNA THREE F CONCEPT PLAN.[2. Consider an application of a preliminary plat of Sienna Lakes Drive St...]
AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SIENNA LAKES DRIVE STREET, DEDICATION, PHASE TWO, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION[3. Consider an application of a final plat of Sienna Lakes Drive Street D...]
OF FINAL PLAT OF SIENNA LAKES DRIVE DEDICATION.UM, SO I CAN PICK UP SEPARATELY.
SO DO THE CONSENT AND THEN, UM, 78, JUST ONE.
SO ONE VOTE ON, ON THE CONSENT SEVEN A.
SO YOU WANT, UH, SEVEN A EACH ONE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VOTE ON OR CONSENT ON A AND B BY ITSELF, AND THEN CALL OUT C SEVEN B.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST, AND WE'RE SEVEN A ONE AND TWO AND TAKING A HOLD ON THAT TOGETHER.
SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR, UH, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS C1? NO, JUST, NO, JUST BE SEVEN A.
THE CONSENT AGENDA, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THAT DINNER? UH, CONSIDER GEN CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEVEN A ONE AND TWO ONLY.
AND SO I KNOW IT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, CONSENT IS ON MM-HMM.
SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ACTUALLY JUST SEVEN A ONE AND TWO.
AND SEVEN B IS IS A SEPARATE ITEM.
SO YEAH, SO THE CONSENT IS JUST THE FIRST.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MAKE A
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MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.CAN YOU TAP YOUR SCREEN FOR ME? RIGHT? DID ALREADY MOTION? OH YES.
SO DO I NEED TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THE SEVEN B SEVEN B? SO, UM, SEVEN B'S CALLED OUT CUZ YOU HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN.
AND, UH, THE SEVEN B ONE IS A CONCEPT WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE, UH, 72 3 BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTAINED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
HOW DID IT GET ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, JENNIFER? I'M SORRY? HOW DID IT GET ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF WE HAVE TO VOTE INDEPENDENTLY ON EACH ITEM? IT'S, IT'S NOT
THE CONSENT AGENDA IS JUST THE FIRST TWO.
IT'S JUST, IT'S THE WAY THAT IT'S, IT'S IT'S WORDED.
UM, BUT CONSENT TO SEVEN A AND THEN SEVEN B ARE C AND FLAT.
AND THEN SEVEN C IS THE INDEPENDENT BUSINESS.
SO WE NEED A MOTION ON APPROVAL OF SEVEN B AND A SECOND AND BOTH.
NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE PRELIMINARY CLASS LAKE DRIVE.
WHICH HAS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE THE FINAL.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA GO FOR SO SEVEN B TWO.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF SEVEN B TWO AND A SECOND AND A VOTE.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE FOR SEVEN B THREE THE FINAL PLAN.
AND THEN ON THREE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY
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PLATTED INDEPENDENCE BOULEVARD BUSINESS PARK.UH, THIS PLAT IS NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF FIFTH STREET AND INDEPENDENCE BOULEVARD.
UM, IT CAME THROUGH THE COMMISSION, UH, LAST YEAR FOR ZONING, UH, FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE USES.
SO THIS IS THE, UH, PRELIMINARY PLAT.
UM, THE NEXT STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, UM, THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO DISAPPROVE.
UM, REMEMBER WITH PLATS, UM, IT CANNOT BE AN ARBITRARY, UH, APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL.
UM, IF THE PLAT MEETS THE FORM REQUIREMENTS, UM, REGULATIONS OF THE CITY, UM, THEN THE CITY HAS TO APPROVE IT.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL, UM, BECAUSE OF, UM, UH, DEFICIENCIES IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE, UM, AND UTILITIES.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A TRAFFIC, UM, IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT IS STILL UNDER REVIEW.
IF, UH, THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UM, IN THAT AREA, BUT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL.
I HAVE QUICK QUESTION, UM, FOR THAT, AND THEN I'M GONNA TAKE MYSELF OUT OF THE QUEUE.
UM, FOR THE, UM, THE APPROVAL, I THINK YOU SAID LAST YEAR, WERE THE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP THIS TIME FOR A DISAPPROVAL OR WERE THEY AROUND DURING LAST YEAR'S APPROVAL, OR DID SOMETHING CHANGE IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE? OH YEAH.
SO THE, THE ZONING, UM, WOULD'VE TAKEN A HIGH LEVEL LOOK, UM, AT DRAINAGE, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE GONE INTO THE TECHNICAL, YOU KNOW, CALCULATIONS, YOU KNOW, RESERVATIONS CAPACITY.
SO NOW THE PLAID, UM, IS GETTING CLOSER TO DEVELOPMENT.
SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL DETAIL THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT.
SO BASED ON THAT ADDITIONAL DETAIL AND BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA, UM, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION.
NOTABLY WITHIN THE DRAINAGE, UM, THEY PROPOSED A LIMITED AMOUNT OF ONSITE STORAGE AND, UH, ONSITE DETENTION STORAGE.
UH, AND THEN THEY WANTED TO UTILIZE NORTHEAST, SO EASTERN CREEK DETENTION BASIN FOR ABOUT, OH, I THINK IT WAS 1.1 ACRE FEET OF ADDITIONAL, UM, VOLUMETRIC STORAGE.
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HOWEVER, I WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A STUDY WHICH IS STILL IN DRAFT AT THIS POINT.HOWEVER, THE PRELIMINARY FINDINGS OF THE STUDY SHOW THAT THERE MAY NOT BE THAT CAPACITY WITHIN THAT DETENTION BASIN WITHIN THE REGIONAL DETENTION BASIN FOR THAT 1.1 ACRES.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, I, WE COULD NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON THIS ITEM.
UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP SOME ONSITE STORAGE OPTIONS FOR THEM, MAYBE EVEN SOME TEMPORARY STORAGE OPTIONS, WHICH I KNOW HAVE BEEN UTILIZED IN THE PAST, SUCH THAT WHEN THE, THE LARGER REGIONAL DETENTION BASIN IS IMPROVED, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING LOOKED AT FOR THAT.
BUT ONCE THAT DETENTION BASIN IS IMPROVED, THEN THEY COULD ESSENTIALLY COVER UP THEIR ONSITE STORAGE AND UTILIZE IT FOR, UH, FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.
SO YOU MENTIONED, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES.
SO CLARIFYING QUESTION, DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPER'S POWER TO ADJUST WHAT THEY CAN ADJUST NOW AND THEY'RE WAITING ON INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGE? SO IT'S, IT'S ONE OF TWO THINGS.
EITHER A, THEY CAN WAIT UNTIL THE REGIONAL DETENTION IS IMPROVED AND TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR RUNOFF OR B UH, THEY CAN FIND A WAY TO DETAIN ONSITE THROUGH USING, UM, UH, UNDERGROUND STORAGE, UH, LINEAR DETENTION, UH, OR MAKING BETTER USE OF PARKING LOTS.
YOU CAN STORE UP TO ABOUT SIX INCHES, UH, IN PARKING LOTS.
SO, UH, AND I WHAT I WAS ASKING, CUZ IF THEY COME BACK SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE HASN'T CHANGED, THEY WOULD STILL BE DISAPPROVED IN THEORY, RIGHT? UH, UNLESS THEY COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATE SITE PLAN.
WHICH, WHICH HAS, UH, SOME STORAGE CAPACITY ON SITE.
UH, ONE OF THE, THERE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION.
THERE CAN BE A PHASE CONSTRUCTION.
SO THERE, THERE ARE DEFINITELY WAYS THE DEVELOPER CAN MOVE FORWARD, UH, AND STILL HAVE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE SITE PLAN AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, GIVEN THE DOWNSTREAM INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, IS NOT FEASIBLE AT THIS TIME.
WELL I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING MINDFUL OF THAT CUZ THAT'S, WE DON'T, WE WANNA BE MINDFUL OF THAT KIND OF IMPACT TO THE AREA, SO THANK YOU.
SO CAN I GET A MOTION? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE STORAGE AT NORTHEAST OYSTER CREEK, UH, CAN THE DEVELOPER, UH, I GUESS DO A MCI PERMIT OR YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING TO WHERE THEY PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS TO SUPPORT THEIR DEVELOPMENT? OR IS THAT NOT A, THE, SO NORMALLY IF WE WERE TO RECOUP VIA AN IMPACT FEE, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, UH, OR RECOUP VIA FEES, UH, TO DO IMPROVEMENTS LATER ON, UH, FOR THIS ONE, IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE STORAGE WITHIN THE A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT.
SO EVEN IF THEY DID PAY, YOU KNOW, PAY, PAY FEES, PAY IMPACT FEES, PAY M C I FEES, UM, THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO AFFECT THE IMPROVEMENTS IN A TIMELY MANNER FOR THEM TO, HOW DO I SAY IT? UM, WE REALLY NEED TO, YES, WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE THEY CAN BUILD THEIR STRUCTURE.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, UM, IF THEY NEED TO DO ONSITE DETENTION, COULD THEY JUST PAY FOR THAT OFFSITE DETENTION TO BE IMPROVED SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ONSITE DETENTION? THE COST OF THE OFFSITE DETENTION, PRELIMINARY NUMBERS IS RANGING BETWEEN THREE AND $7 MILLION.
SO IF THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO PAY FOR THAT, WE WOULD, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN.
UM, SO WHEREAS ONE MAY BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PAY AND EXPAND IT FOR THEIR USE, UM, WE STILL HAVE OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THERE THAT MAY BE IN, IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.
WELL THE REASON WHY I ASK IS CUZ IF THEY NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, UH, DETENTION STORAGE AND THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY AND THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, X AMOUNT OF ACRE-FEET, COULD THEY JUST PAY FOR THAT X AMOUNT OF ACRE-FEET TO BE, YOU KNOW, WITHDRAWN FROM THE CITY STORAGE EXCAVATED OUT OF THAT AREA? YEAH, SO THIS AREA, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS AREA AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH VERTICAL, UM, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDEPENDENCE AND 10 92 AT THAT POINT.
SO JUST PURE OH, SO THEY COULDN'T MEET THE YEAH, JUST, JUST GOING OUT AND, AND DOING SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL EXCAVATION WOULD BE DIFFICULT.
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UH, THE PROPERTY THAT WE OWN, IT'S I THINK THREE OR FOUR INTERCONNECTED PROPERTIES, UM, THAT IS, AND THE DETENTION, THE, THE LIMITS OF THE DETENTION ARE ALREADY AT THE LIMITS OF THE PROPERTY, SO WE COULDN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, SCOOT IT OUT A LITTLE BIT.UM, OR YOU'D HAVE TO ADD A PUMP STATION OR SOMETHING TO MAKE IT DEEPER.
WE COULD ADD A PUMP STATION, BUT THAT'S NOT YEAH, NO, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT THAT.
I WAS JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER OPTION.
IT'S JUST TO ADD UPON STATION, ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE, WE HAD CONSIDERED WITH THEM TO EXPANDING, UM, DETENTION IN THAT AREA IS THEY'RE ACTUALLY ABUTTING THE, UM, A LINEAR DETENTION CHANNEL.
AND IF THEY WANTED TO MOVE THAT SET OF BUILDINGS CLOSER IN AND CARVE OUT THAT ADDITIONAL STORAGE AND THEN DEDICATED AS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THEN THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THAT, THAT IS A METHOD FORWARD THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT WITH THEM IN ADDITION TO OTHER METHODS.
SO, SO THEY CAN, THEY CAN DONATE THAT PROPERTY TO THE CITY AND WE WOULD, WE TAKE ON THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT, UH, GOING FORWARD, BUT THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO DO THAT.
UM, THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERING OPTIONS AND, UM, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RUNNING THE NUMBERS TO SEE HOW MUCH DIRT THEY'D HAVE TO GET RID OF AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, UM, DID I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON THE RESULTS OF THE DRAINAGE IMPACTS THAT, UH, ANALYSIS THEY, THEY HAD PROVIDED, UM, THEIR DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS.
WE HAD REVIEWED THAT AND DUE TO THE, THE ASSUMPTION OF THE USE OF THAT OFFSITE STORAGE, WE DISAPPROVED THAT.
UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO NOT NOT FULLY BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, BUT THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO REEVALUATE THEIR LAYOUT AND STORAGE OPTIONS AND THEN PROVIDE AN UPDATED REPORT FOR CITY'S REVIEW.
SO THE OUT, SO YOU'RE NOT WAITING ON AN OUTCOME OR ARE YOU ALREADY CAN ANTICIPATE THAT? I'M, I'M TRYING TO BE CLEAR ON PROCESS.
THEY, THEY SUBMITTED, THEY SUBMITTED A LAYOUT AND A REPORT, UH, THE RESULTS OF THAT LAYOUT AND A REPORT REPORT WERE NOT ACCEPTABLE BY CITY STANDARDS AND, AND WHAT THE CITY NEEDS.
SO WE'RE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS WHEN WE VOTE ON THIS.
I MEAN, OTHER THAN COUNSEL, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR.
OH, AND WASN'T THE TRAFFIC, SO, SO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED.
UM, THE ISSUES ON THAT WERE MORE MINOR, SO WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THEM, HOWEVER, WE DIDN'T, UM, HOW DO I SAY, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T ACCELERATE THAT REVIEW PROCESS KNOWING THE DRAINAGE, UH, WASN'T GOING TO BE ACCEPTABLE AT THIS TIME.
SO THERE WAS NO REASON TO RUSH ONE PORTION, UH, A PORTION OF A PROJECT OR A SMALL ISSUE WHEN THERE WAS STILL A LARGER ISSUE THAT NEEDED TO BE RESOLVED.
SO IT GIVES, UH, BOTH US AND THE DESIGN ENGINEER TIME TO WORK ON THESE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES CONCURRENTLY.
YEAH, AND I, I'LL JUST SAY THEY'RE AT THE PRELIMINARY STAGE.
UM, SO, UH, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GET THESE ITEMS RESOLVED BEFORE THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.
UM, BECAUSE ONCE THEY MOVE PAST PRELIMINARY, THEY CAN START RUNNING CONCURRENTLY SO THEY CAN START DOING PERMIT PLAN APPLICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO UTILITIES, THE INFRASTRUCTURE DRAINAGE, ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE SECURED, UM, DURING THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT STAGE.
I GET A MOTION ABOUT WHETHER WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL.
I MOVED IT IN THE SYSTEM HERE.
OH, WHO'S, WHO'S ON MIC? MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
IT LOOKS LIKE I'M STILL IN THE QUEUE.
I DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG HERE? YOU'RE ASKING.
THAT MOTION PASSWORD DISAPPROVED.
AND THEN, UH, NUMBER EIGHT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT.
[9. ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS]
AND NUMBER NINE, ZONING, TEXT AMENDMENT.WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING,
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UM, MURALS.AND I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.
I WAS LIKE, NO PRESENTATION, JUST PUBLIC HEARING.
CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME OKAY? PERFECT.
SO, UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO I PRESENTED A, UM, NOT A PRELIMINARY REPORT, BUT JUST THE IDEA OF, UM,
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ADOPTING SOME EURO REGULATIONS.UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE AND I HAVE SOME PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE SOME FEEDBACK ON, UM, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT STAGE, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, PREPARING A PRELIMINARY REPORT, UM, IN PROVIDING THAT TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL.
UM, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A REFRESHER, UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT HOW, UM, MURALS ARE AN IMPORTANT, UM, PIECE OF ART FOR THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, IS JUST, UH, PAINTINGS THAT ARE AFFIXED TO THE WALL BY ARTISTS.
THEY CAN HAVE CULTURAL MEANINGS OR JUST HAVE, PROMOTE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
UM, AND WE'VE SEEN 'EM ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN DIFFERENT CITIES.
PEOPLE LOVE TO TAKE THEIR PICTURES IN FRONT OF THEM AND PROMOTE TOURISM.
UM, AND SO OVER THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS AT THE CITY, WE'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF INQUIRIES FROM BUSINESSES ABOUT WANTING TO DO MURALS ON THE SIDE OF THEIR BUSINESS, BUT CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY.
SO WE'VE KIND OF BEEN TAKING A LOOK AT IT AS EITHER ARCHITECTURE OR SIGNS.
UM, BUT JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF INQUIRIES THAT WE'RE GETTING, UM, IT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THE COMMISSION TO ADOPT SOME REGULATIONS REGARDING MURALS JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM.
UM, SO OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, UM, THE TEAM HAS BEEN LOOKING AT SOME REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS THAT OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE, SOME OF THE CITIES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT OR, UM, HIGH SPRINGS, FLORIDA AND GAINESVILLE.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE AND FOR WHAT PURPOSE, UM, AND HOW WE CAN APPLY THAT HERE AT MISSOURI CITY AND WHERE YOU TAKING THEIR REGULATIONS AND KIND OF DRAFTING UP OUR OWN FOR THE THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE HERE IN MISSOURI CITY.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE ALSO, UM, GOING TO BE PUSHING OUT A SURVEY TO ASSOCIATED INTEREST BOARDS AND COMMITTEES TO ALSO GAIN FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THE, UM, DRAFTED REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SO THAT'LL BE, UM, BEING PUSHED OUT SOMETIME NEXT WEEK, BUT IT'LL BE VERY TARGETED TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION, THE TEXAS PARKWAY CORRIDOR COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND THAT WILL BE TO GAIN LIKE VERY SPECIFIC FEEDBACK FROM THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS REGARDING THESE REGULATIONS.
UM, SO JUST TO KIND OF BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CITIES THAT WE'VE TAKE, WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT, UM, ONE OF THOSE CITIES IS GAINESVILLE, FLORIDA, WHICH SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW IS A COLLEGE TOWN.
AND, UM, IN AN EFFORT TO KIND OF PROMOTE SOME OF, UM, THE, THE ART THAT LIVES THERE WITHIN LIKE THE STUDENT COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO JUST LIKE THE ACTUAL COMMUNITY THAT IS THERE.
THEY HAVE PROMOTED, UM, IN PAST A MURAL ORDINANCE THAT IS KIND OF VERY GENERALIZED.
IT PRETTY MUCH IS FOCUSING ON THE COMMUNITY'S ACCESS TO PUBLIC ART AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC ART IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST LIKE ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT.
ANOTHER ONE OF THE CITIES THAT WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT IS HIGH SPRINGS FLORIDA.
UM, AND SO WITH THIS COMMUNITY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM GAINESVILLE.
UM, HIGH SPRING HAS DONE VERY STRATEGIC, UM, HAS DONE A VERY STRATEGIC ORDINANCE, SO THEY'RE LESS FOCUSED ON NECESSARILY PROMOTING ACCESS TO ART, BUT RATHER THEY'RE WANTING BUSINESS OWNERS TO KIND OF FORM LIKE A STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ARTISTS IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND TO PROMOTE VERY SPECIFIC IMAGES, UM, ON THE SIDE OF THEIR BUSINESS.
THEY WERE VERY STRATEGIC ABOUT WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT THESE, UM, MURALS, HOW THEY WANTED THEM TO LOOK, AND, UM, THE BENEFIT IT WOULD HAVE TO THAT SPECIFIC, UH, COMMUNITY.
SO I'LL BE GOING OVER SOME POSSIBLE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, UM, ONE OF THEM BEING THE, AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION FOUR, WHICH IS THE DEFINITIONS AND THE SECOND BEING TO SECTION 13, WHICH ARE THE SIGN REGULATIONS.
UM, AND SO FOR SECTION 14 WE'RE LOOKING TO AMEND, UM, TO PROVIDE A DEFINITION FOR MURALS AND FOR SECTION 13, UM, TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS REGARDING ART MURALS INSTALL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, SO TO KIND OF GO OVER THE FIRST SET OF AMENDMENTS, UM, FOR SECTION FOUR DEFINITIONS, I'M GOING TO READ THIS OFF BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE PROPOSED DEFINITION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH ALL THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND THEN IF IT'S OKAY AT THE END, I'LL TAKE ANY FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
UM, SO WHAT I HAVE FOR DEFINITIONS IS THAT A MURAL SHOULD BE DEFINED AS A PAINTING DESIGN OR ARTISTIC WORK APPLIED TO AN EXTERIOR WALL OF A NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
GENERALLY FOR, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE PURPOSE OF DECORATION, ARTISTIC EXPRESSION AND COMMERCIAL MESSAGING.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF TWO AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE SECOND AMENDMENT WOULD BE CONTAINED IN THE SIGN REGULATIONS OF SECTION 13.
SO I'VE ACTUALLY KIND OF SPLIT UP SECTION 13 AND TWO, THREE DIFFERENT
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SECTIONS.ONE WAS SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON THE ACTUAL REGULATIONS OF MURALS, UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA OF BE LOOKING AT WHEN WE SEE A MURAL, WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT IN THOSE MURALS.
UM, THE SECOND SECTION THAT I HAVE FOR 'EM IS THE ACTUAL APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING A LOOK AT IF SOMEBODY IS SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION TO THE CITY, AND THE THIRD SECTION THAT I HAVE IS THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO I WILL BE GOING THROUGH ALL THOSE, UM, AND I'M GONNA MAKE IT AS TRYING TO MAKE IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
BUT YEAH, SO FOR THE FIRST ONE FOR THE REGULATIONS THAT I HAVE, UM, OR THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE IS THAT, UM, A MURAL ASSIGNED CAN ONLY BE LOCATED IN NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR MURALS TO BE LOCATED IN ANYTHING THAT'S RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL.
UH, IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN ANYTHING THAT IS OWNED RESIDENTIAL OR EVEN MULTI-FAMILY.
UM, THE SECOND PROPOSED REGULATION WOULD BE THAT MURALS HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD REPAIR.
AND SO IF WE SEE THAT A MURAL IS BEING DETER IS DETERIORATING, THEN WE WOULD SEND THEM A NOTICE AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO REPAIR THAT MURAL WITHIN 30 DAYS OF WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THE NEXT PROPOSED REGULATION THAT WE HAVE IS THAT, UM, MURALS CANNOT CONTAIN ANY LANGUAGE OR SYMBOLS OR REPRESENTATIONS THAT ARE OBSCENE, OFFENSIVE OR POLITICAL IN NATURE OR DEROGATORY.
UM, AND THAT WORDS AND GRAPHICS, UM, REFERENCING THE ESTABLISHMENT HAVE TO BE VERY LIMITED AND DOMINANT IN SCOPE AND HAVE TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THE OVERALL, UM, MURAL DESIGN AS WELL.
MURALS CANNOT BE LOCATED ON ANY PRIMARY FACADE OF A STRUCTURE ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE UNLESS THE FACADE IS SET BACK A HUNDRED FEET.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST TAKING INTO ACCOUNT SPECIFICALLY A BUSINESS LIKE CINEMA MARK.
THEY HAVE THEIR MURAL IN THEIR PRIMARY FACADE, BUT THEY'RE SET BACK FROM HIGHWAY SIX.
SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A DISTRACTION TO ANY ONCOMING TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I, I HAVE A QUESTION IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE DEFINITION.
TALK TO ME ABOUT COMMERCIAL MESSAGING MM-HMM.
UM, THE WAY THAT WE HAVE IT KIND OF WRITTEN, IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE ACTUAL REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SO THE INTENT OF THE MURAL CAN HAVE COMMERCIAL MESSAGING, BUT WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN, IT CAN BE VERY LIMITED BECAUSE THEN IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DOMINANT, AND I WOULD SAY BY DOMINANT, I MEAN ABOUT 50% OR MORE OF THE ACTUAL ARTWORK IS DEDICATED TO PROMOTING THE BUSINESS, THEN I WOULD SAY AT THAT POINT IT WOULD BECOME A SIGN AND WOULD HAVE TO BE REEVALUATED.
UM, BUT IF IT IS CAUSE FOR CONFUSION, WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND KIND OF REEVALUATE THAT DEFINITION AS WELL.
I, I JUST THINK THAT, THAT THAT CREATES A GRAY AREA.
AND WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.
SO WOULD YOU RATHER NOT SEE COMMERCIAL MESSAGING AS PART OF THAT DEFINITION OR JUST, AND I, I WANNA ADD, UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE IT FOR THE RECORD AND, AND ADD IT TO THE DISCUSSION.
UM, KEEPING IN MIND THAT WITH SIGNS, UM, WE WALK A VERY FINE LINE BECAUSE THE MESSAGE OF A SIGN IS PROTECTED, UM, BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT, UM, THAT WE ALL HAVE.
UM, SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MURALS AND ADDING THAT INTO SIGNS, THAT'S WHERE THAT COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL MESSAGING COMES IN.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN'T DIRECTLY REGULATE, UM, BUT WE CAN REGULATE TIME, YOU KNOW, LOCATION, YOU KNOW, SIZE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE OUR REGULATIONS HAVE TO KIND OF FALL ALONG THOSE PARAMETERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OBSCENE, OFFENSIVE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, CAN BE STATED.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL, UM, WHEN WE START TO REGULATE THE SPECIFIC MESSAGE, UM, ON A SIGN IN A MURAL OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
IT IS JUST THE COMMERCIAL PIECE IS, IS WHAT SOMEWHAT CAN BE CONFUSING.
OKAY, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE QUESTION.
ARTISTIC EXPRESSION, WOULD GRAFFITI FALLEN UNDER THAT? AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRST AMENDMENT.
IT COULD MURALS HAVE, UM, IN THE PAST HAVE SOME SORT OF GRAFFITI ARTWORK AS PART OF IT.
UM, IN SOME ORDINANCES THAT I'VE LOOKED AT, THEY'VE EXCLUDED GRAFFITI SPECIFICALLY, LIKE NO GRAFFITI ALLOWED.
AND THEN IN OTHER ORDINANCES THEY DO DEFINE MURALS TO HAVE GRAFFITI IN THEM.
UM, SO I GUESS IT WOULD BE UP TO US AND YOU ALL ON HOW YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UM, WITH THAT TAKE WITH THE CITY.
AND THAT, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH THESE PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE REGULATIONS, UM, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE, WITH THE CITY A GRAFFITI ORDINANCE, UM, THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC DEFINES GRAFFITI, YOU KNOW, DEFINES YOU KNOW, PARAMETERS, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IT BEING PROHIBITED, YOU KNOW, AND HOW TO RECTIFY THAT.
SO IN THE CREATION OF THIS MURALS IS WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT KIND OF DISTINCTION, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN GRAFFITI, BETWEEN SIGNAGE WALL SIGNS, YOU KNOW, FREESTANDING SIGNS AND
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ALL OF THAT.SO YOU'RE VERY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, AS TO WHAT FLEXIBILITY AND ALLOWANCE, UM, YOU'RE GIVING TO PROPERTY OWNERS.
BUT THAT WOULD FALL UNDER A RES RESIDENTIAL OR BUSINESS COMMERCIAL BUSINESS ALSO.
THE GRAFFITI ORDINANCE SUPPLY SAY EVERY, EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT, UM, AS WITH THE COMMISSION OR TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL, SO YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE REGULATIONS ARE.
SO IT WOULD OR WOULD NOT OPEN THE WINDOW FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR GREETING GRAFFITI MESSAGES.
SO THAT'S, WE'LL HAVE TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONFLICTS.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE LEGAL TEAM, UM, THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE THING OF GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE ANY OTHER REGULATION IN THE CITY'S CODE ORDINANCES ARE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, COINCIDE AND NOT, WE'RE NOT CREATING SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA CREATE, YOU KNOW, A CONFLICT.
OH, SO IN THE OTHER ORDINANCES THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT, THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE THE ORDINANCE AND VOTED ON IT, ARE THEY ALSO THE JUDGE AND JURY ON EACH ONE OF THEM BEING ALLOWED? WHO IS, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN, AN ART COMMISSION MM-HMM.
AND SO IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, IT GOES IN FRONT OF THEM, NOT THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE THE ORDINANCE.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT DEPENDS ON THE ACTUAL CITY ITSELF.
DIFFERENT CITIES HAVE DONE IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, SOME CITIES THAT ARE FOCUSED MORE ON LIKE THE PUBLIC SIDE OF ART, THEY DO HAVE AN ARTS COMMISSION THAT APPLICATIONS WILL GO THROUGH.
AND IN ONE CITY, UM, PRIVATE ART WENT THROUGH THEM AS WELL, I BELIEVE.
UM, IN OTHER CITIES THEY HAVE PASSED MURAL ORDINANCES WHERE THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REVIEW OF THE MURAL ITSELF.
IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE FREE GAME ANYWHERE THAT YOU CAN PUT ONE, YOU CAN, THERE'S NO, UM, THERE'S NO REGULATING THEM.
AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T HAVE CO COMMERCIAL MESSAGING THAT THAT'S USUALLY THE BIG DIFFERENTIATOR BETWEEN A LOT OF THESE ORDINANCES.
IF IT HAS A LOT OF COMMERCIAL MESSAGING IN THEM, THEN THEY'RE CONSIDERED SIGNS AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR SIGN REGULATIONS.
AND THEN IF THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL MESSAGING, IF IT'S JUST PURELY ART OF SOME SORT, THEN THERE'S NO REGULATIONS AT ALL AND THEY CAN PLACE THEM ANYWHERE.
UM, BUT YEAH, DIFFERENT CITIES HAVE DONE, UM, THEY'VE GONE ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
BUT ACTUALLY I DO HAVE, UM, THAT ON ONE OF MY SLIDES AT THE END, LIKE PROPOSED APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I CONTINUE? NO.
SO I THINK I JUST FINISHED UP, UM, THE FIRST PART OF THE SIGN REGULATIONS AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL REGULATIONS OF THE MURALS THEMSELVES.
SO THE SECOND PART OF THIS SECTION THAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THE ACTUAL PERMIT APPLICATION REQUIREMENT ITSELF.
AND SO FOR THIS PART, UM, OF THE AMENDMENT, WE JUST HAVE THAT.
UM, AND THIS IS PROPOSED AS WELL BECAUSE THIS ALSO KIND OF CONFLICTS WITH MY NEXT PART.
UM, BUT THE PROPOSAL IS OUT FOR PERMITS, UM, THAT WITH A, THE PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, ANY PROPERTY OWNER OR TENANT, I MUST SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE CITY FOR ASSIGNED PERMIT, PAY ANY APPLICABLE PERMIT FEES.
UM, AND THERE ARE SUBJECT TO STAFF REVIEW AND APPROVAL AS WELL AS SITE INSPECTIONS.
SO THIS APPLICATION WOULD REQUIRE, UM, BUT IT'S NOT LIMITED TO PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, A COMPLETED APPLICATION FORM, PROVIDING A DESIGN SKETCH, WHICH INCLUDES THE PROPOSED COLORS AND MATERIALS, UM, AS WELL AS A SITE PLAN, WHICH PROVIDES THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE MURAL AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE, UM, FOR THE PROPOSED ITEMS FOR THE ACTUAL APPLICATION ITSELF.
AND THEN FOR THE THIRD PART OF THE SIGN REGULATIONS AMENDMENT IS THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO I'VE KIND OF SPLIT THIS UP INTO TWO OPTIONS THAT WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT.
THE FIRST OPTION BEING THAT STAFF WILL DO A REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
SO IT'LL GO THROUGH OUR REGULAR, UM, APPROVAL PROCESS THAT WE HAVE NOW, APPLICATION APPROVAL PROCESS APPLICANTS WILL SUBMIT THE SIGNED APPLICATION ON OUR CITIZEN SELF SERVICE PORTAL.
IT GETS PROCESSED, GETS ASSIGNED TO A STAFF MEMBER, WE REVIEW IT, UM, DETERMINE IF IT MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS, THE REQUIREMENTS.
IF SO, WE APPROVE IT AND IT GETS PUSHED OUT.
UM, AND A PERMIT IS ISSUED AFTER ALL THE FEES ARE PAID.
UM, THE SECOND OPTION THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WOULD REVIEW AND APPROVE.
UM, AND I DO WANNA STATE THAT THIS REVIEW AND A APPROVAL WOULD JUST MOSTLY BE FOR LIKE CONTENT APPROVAL.
UM, PART OF THE REGULATIONS ARE THAT WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING OF AN OBSCENE NATURE, ANYTHING DEROGATORY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S BEING, UM, PUT UP IN OUR CITY.
SO THE REVIEW WILL MOSTLY BE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S
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NOT CONTENT LIKE THAT THAT IS BEING PUSHED OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.AND SO AS FAR AS PROS AND CONS FOR OPTION ONE, WE DO CURRENTLY ALREADY HAVE THE PROCESS SET UP FOR STAFF TO REVIEW SIGN PERMITS.
UM, BUT THEN THE CON OF THAT IS THAT THE STAFF WILL NEED TO REVIEW THE MURAL DESIGNS AND THEN, UM, TO ENSURE THAT CONTENT IS APPROPRIATE.
AND THAT CAN BE, I GUESS, SUBJECTIVE TO UM, ANY OF THE REVIEWERS.
AND THEN FOR OPTION TWO, THE PRO WOULD BE THE COMMISSION MAY ACT AS THE DECIDING BODY TELL OUT FOR THE MURAL AND ENSURE THE CONTENT IS APPROPRIATE.
UM, BUT THE CON ON THAT IS THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THAT PROCESS, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO CREATE THAT PROCESS AND, UM, MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS? THAT WAS WELL DONE.
I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION AND THAT IS, IS THERE ANY ROOM, CUZ YOUR MENTION OF THE ARTS COMMISSION, IS THERE ANY ROOM WITHIN THE PROCESS, WHATEVER'S TIED UPON TO INCLUDE THEM EARLIER ON AS PART OF FEEDBACK? UM, YES, BUT ALSO LIKE IF, IF ONCE WE GET TO AN ESTABLISHED PROCESS FOR ADDING OR NOT ADDING MURALS, MY QUESTION IS CAN WE ADD THE ARTS COMMISSION SOMEWHERE IN THAT APPROVAL PROCESS? LIKE ONCE WE HAVE AN ESTABLISHED ROUTE WE'RE GONNA TAKE, IS IT EVEN APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE THEM IN THAT? SO I THINK WE CAN INCLUDE THEM.
UM, AND WE DO PLAN ON INCLUDING THEM LIKE THROUGH THE SURVEY AND THROUGH THAT SURVEY WE DO PLAN ON GETTING, UM, CONTACT INFORMATION AND GIVING THEM THOSE UPDATES ON WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OCCURRING AND UM, AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
BUT THEN AS FAR AS I GUESS GETTING THEIR APPROVAL, UM, I THINK THE ARTS COMMISSION HAS LIKE THEIR OWN SET THAT THEY WORK ON AS THEY DO THE PUBLIC ART IS WHAT THEY'RE MOSTLY FOCUSED ON.
SO ANYTHING THAT'S, UM, GOING UP ON, I GUESS CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOOD TO GO.
UM, AND AS FAR AS I GUESS LOOPING THEM INTO THIS PROCESS, JENNIFER, DO YOU HAVE THAT TAKE ON THAT, EXPLORE THAT? YEAH, THERE COULD BE SOME VALUE.
JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION STRUCTURE WHERE THE PARKS BOARD, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERS IT, THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES HERE MM-HMM.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT A SIMILAR KIND OF STRUCTURE AND SEE MAKES SENSE.
UM, HOW THAT CAN BE INTEGRATED.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL CABINETS, UH, THIS IS PROBABLY MORE OF A QUESTION FOR, UH, ENGINEERING.
UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, MURALS? UM, YOU KNOW, CUZ TYP I, IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, WELL, I'LL LET YOU TALK MARCUS.
UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING SOME DECK, UH, SOME WRAPPERS RIGHT NOW ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CABINETS, BUT UTILIZING THE CABINETS AS MURAL SPACE, I HAVE NO TOPICAL OBJECTION TO THAT, ESPECIALLY IF ONE LOOKED LIKE R TWO D TWO.
I KNOW IT WAS, I'LL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
BUT LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING ELSE.
THAT WOULD BE A CITY SPONSORED OR THAT, THAT WOULD BE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.
UM, AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF THE PURVIEW OF THE ARTS COMMISSION, CORRECT? YES.
BUT IF THERE WAS A DESIRE TO MURAL UTILIZE, UM, SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CABINETS, PUBLIC WORKS AT THIS TIME WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTION TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO WORK THAT PROCESS.
I SEE A LOT OF THAT IN HOUSTON.
I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THERE WERE NUMBER OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THAT ONE.
UM, SO YEAH, SO JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER NEXT STEPS, UM, AS FAR AS MURALS GO, SO, UH, WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING TODAY.
UM, AND THEN HOPEFULLY BEFORE NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE A PRELIMINARY REPORT PREPARED TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL.
BEFORE THAT WE PLAN ON, UM, SENDING OUT THE SURVEY TO ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK ON OUR VERY SPECIFIC NEURO REGULATIONS TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY INPUT OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED, UM, AND TO INCLUDE THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND SO ONCE THE PRELIMINARY REPORT HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND APPROVED, UM, WE'LL HOLD A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN PRESENT A FINAL REPORT TO YOU ALL AS WELL.
SO ONCE A FINAL REPORT HAS BEEN, UM, I GUESS APPROVED WITH A A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, WE WILL BE TAKING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL AND HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL AND PRESENTING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THEM AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT GOING
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BACK TO THE DEFINITION.UM, WITH, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
UH, SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL BECAUSE SOME OF THAT, WHEN YOU SPEAK TO 50% OF IT SPEAKING, UH, IN REFERENCE TO THE BUSINESS, SOME OF THAT CAN BE A MATTER OF INTERPRETATION MM-HMM.
SO WE HAVE TO BE REAL SPECIFIC WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF HOW WE WORD THAT.
AND THEN TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO RECOGNIZE ART WHERE IT GOES MM-HMM.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS THE APPROVAL PROCESS BASED OFF OF THE TWO OPTIONS, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S A PREFERENCE FOR ONE OR THE OTHER OR ANY INPUT ON ON THAT END OR IF THERE'S MAYBE A THIRD OPTION THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE THINKING OF TO CONSIDER.
I WOULD THINK MAYBE OF A THIRD OPTION BECAUSE WITH IT COMING BEFORE US, THAT'S ONCE A MONTH AND THAT COULD DELAY SOME THINGS.
BUT ALSO THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE INCLUDING THE ARTS COMMISSION IN IT.
HOW, HOW ARE THE OPTIONS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO NOW? I MEAN, YOU ALL PROVIDE, WELL, I GUESS ANSWER MY QUESTION.
YOU ALL PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MM-HMM.
YOU GOOD? THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DID.
I WOULD DEFINITELY BE LOOKING INTO THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO.
SO THIS PUBLIC HEARING SAYS OPEN IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
DO I JUST OPEN? IT'S BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING ABOUT MURALS, I JUST WANNA SAY SOMETHING.
I DON'T WANT TO COME UP THERE NECESSARILY.
THE COMMERCIAL MESSAGING, I'M SORRY.
WE DO NEED YOU TO COME UP JUST FOR THE RECORDING PROCESS.
NO, I JUST THINK IF WE'RE GONNA DO MURALS, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE COMMUNITY.
UH, AND YES, IT'S GONNA BE ON THE SIDE OF, UH, PRIVATE BUILD, UH, BUSINESSES.
BUT I THINK IF, IF THEY'RE GONNA ALLOW THE MULE TO BE, UH, ON THEIR BUILDING, IT STILL SHOULD BE FOR THE COMMUNITY'S SAKE, NOT COMMERCIAL BRANDING'S SAKE.
THAT IS SIGNS THAT THEY PAY FOR IF THEY'RE DOING OR GIVING THE PERMISSION FOR THE ARTWORK OR THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY TO POST A MURAL ON THEIR BUILDING.
IT SHOULD BE FOR THE SAKE OF COMMUNITY UPLIFTMENT, PERIOD, NOT COMMERCIALIZING IT FOR THEIR SAKE.
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR COMMENTS FROM MISSOURI CITY.
YOU NOW, SHOULD WE VOTE ON THE SHEET? SECOND.
EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? AYE.
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OKAY.OUR LAST ITEM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THE PROCEDURE FOR NAMING OR RENAMING CITY STREETS.
[a. Procedure for Naming and Renaming City Streets]
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION.SO, YES, I COME TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCEDURE FOR NAMING AND RENAMING CITY STREETS.
SO FIRST, BEFORE WE GO INTO ALL NAMING AND RENAMING CITY STREETS, I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT IN GENERALLY THE APPLICATION WORKFLOW.
WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO NAME, UH, CITY STREET RIGHT OF WAY, THE FIRST THING, UH, THAT, UH, A DEVELOPER WILL DO.
AND WHEN, UM, SUBMITTING, SUBMITTING, THEY WILL SUBMIT A, UH, APPLICATION.
AND ON THAT APPLICATION IT WILL HAVE THE LIST OF THE CITY STREETS THAT THEY WANT TO NAME OR THE RIGHT OF WAYS THEY'RE GOING TO NAME.
AND THEN WE HAVE A REVIEW TEAM OF PLANNING AND PUBLIC WORKS IN GIS, UH, THAT ACTUALLY REVIEWS THIS, UM, DOCUMENT OF THE PROPOSED, UM, NAMES OF STREETS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT WE THEN TAKE THAT AND PUT, UH, ATTACH THAT TO THEIR, UH, PLAT FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER, UH, TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVED.
SO, UH, THIS IS THE EXACT DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE SEEN INSIDE OF YOUR, UM, UH, PACKETS WHEN REVIEWING PLAT BEFORE COMING TO THE COMMISSION, UH, MEETING.
SO I'M JUST GONNA GO IN DEPTH INTO THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT, UM, AND YOU, YOU WILL SEE THE ACTUAL, UM, I'M SORRY.
YOU WILL SEE THE ACTUAL, UH, DOCUMENT.
SO THIS IS THE FRONT PAGE, I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE FRONT PAGE, PAGE ONE, AND THEN PAGE TWO.
SO WE GO ON PAGE ONE, YOU'LL SEE THE APPLICANT NAME.
YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, PRE DIRECTION, PRIMARY NAME, SELF FIX, ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE ASK HIM TO FILL OUT.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT WILL ACTUALLY SIGN THE NAME.
SO I'M JUST GONNA START ACTUALLY ON PAGE TWO WHERE IT ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, I THINK, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S PAGE ONE WHERE IT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT THE THEME OF THE PROPOSED STREET NAME.
SO WE ASKED THEM FOR THE THEME.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY WANT TO NAME, ACTUALLY NAME THAT STREET, THAT NAME.
IT MIGHT BE PART OF A SUBDIVISION OR A COMMUNITY THAT THE NAMES ARE ALL ASSOCIATED IN THE SAME GENERAL, UM, WITH THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION NAME.
SO IF I NAME A SUBDIVISION WOOD MIRROR, I MIGHT, UH, HYPOTHETICALLY, UH, NAME HAVE EVERY SINGLE NAME IN THE, UH, STREET SOMETHING WOOD OR WOOD, SOMETHING, OAK TREE, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH WOOD.
AND THEN WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS, UH, THAT, THAT WILL SUGGEST ANYTHING THAT IS, UH, POLITICAL, ECONOMICAL, CULTURAL, UH, UH, OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S AGAINST, UH, THAT WOULD BE IMPROPER OR AGAINST, UH, HUMANITY.
UH, I WILL SAY IN MY WORDS, I'M CAREFUL WITH MY WORDS, BUT, UM, SO THEN I WANT TO ADD SPECIFICALLY GO INTO THE CITY ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY.
UH, DIVISION ONE, UH, NAMING OF CITY STREETS.
SO WHEN YOU GO INTO DIVISION ONE, I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN ALL THE WORDS CAUSE IT COULDN'T FIT INTO ONE PAGE, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THE ACTUAL, UM, A THROUGH H EACH ITEM, UH, THE CHARACTERISTIC DO CLICK NAMES AND WE GONNA JUST KIND OF DISCUSS THOSE DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO FIRST, UH, I REALLY, UH, A IS JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT THE NAME, THE CHARACTERISTICS.
BUT I REALLY WANT TO GO INTO DEPTH ON C AND D WHERE IT SAYS DUPLICATE NAMES AND NAMES WITH CLOSE PROXIMITY.
SO IF I WAS NAMED IN THE STREET, MISSOURI CITY WAY ARE IN MISSOURI CITY PARK, THOSE TWO NAMES COULD BE, YOU COULD HAVE TWO STREET NAMES WITH THE BOAT NAMES IN, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
UH, BUT YOU CANNOT, IT CANNOT BE IN DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT ON THIS SIDE OF THE CITY.
AND THEN ANOTHER ONE OFF, OFF OF HIGHWAY SIX, IT WOULD BE MORE IF YOU HAVE A MAIN STREET CALLED MISSOURI CITY WAY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A COURT RIGHT NEXT TO IT, MISSOURI CITY PARK, THAT'S ASSOCIATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE MAIN, TO THE MAIN, UH, DOOR FAIR.
YOU CANNOT HAVE TWO NAMES IN THE CITY WITH THE SAME NAME.
AND I THINK WE ALL CAN UNDERSTAND THE REASON OF THAT.
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AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE, UH, NAMING CRITERIA.THE COMMISSION ACTUALLY HAS THE, UH, AUTHORITY, UH, BASED ON STAFF, UH, FROM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER, UH, APPROVING OR DISAPPROVING THE, THE, THE NAMING OF THE STREET THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT SO THAT IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL COMMISSION.
AND THEN ONCE THE COMMISSION HAS APPROVED, THEN UH, IT GOES FURTHER TO, NO, SORRY.
UH, ONCE THE, UH, THE COMMISSION APPROVED, THEN WE START THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY, UH, FINALIZING, UH, UM, EVERYTHING WITH IN INVOLVED IN THE PLATS.
AND, UH, THEN THEY WILL ACTUALLY START THE, UM, BUILDING THE STREET.
SO, UH, I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT, UH, PROPER NAMES.
I WANNA GO INTO, UH, DETAIL IN REGARDS TO THE CULTURAL, ECONOMICAL, EDUCATIONAL INTELLIGENCE, POLITICAL SCIENTIFIC, UH, BASICALLY WE, UM, UH, IN INSIDE OF THE APPLICATION, WE ASKED THE APPLICANT NOT TO NAME STREETS THAT ARE, UM, THAT WILL HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, UH, NAMES THAT IS IMPROPER, THAT WOULD HAVE, UH, THE COMMUNITY OR A CERTAIN, UH, GROUP OF, OF A SOCIAL CLASS TO FEEL DISRESPECTED.
UM, SO, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THIS, UH, UPCOMING MONDAY TO RENAME THE STREET.
UM, FORGOT THE NAME OF THE STREET.
THE STREET, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE STREET? LIBERTY? NO, THE, THE, THE ORIGINAL NAME.
UH, BE BEFORD FOREST HAS A HISTORY DURING THE CIVIL WAR.
SO THE NAME, WE, UH, IT IS A SUGGESTION TO RENAME THAT STREET FROM BEDFORD BET FORT FOREST TO LIBERTY WAY.
AND IT ALSO, UH, COUNCIL IS ALSO PLANNING TO CHANGE THE CRITERIA OF RENAMING A STREET, WHICH I'M ABOUT TO GET TO IN A SECOND.
TO WHERE RIGHT NOW, A A PERSON CAN PETITION TO CHANGE A NAME, WHICH THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO TO COUNCIL.
AND, UH, THE THRESHOLD RIGHT NOW IS 70% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO CHANGE IT TO 60.
SO THAT BACK FOR THE FOREST, UH, STREET IS PREPARED IS IS BEING PLANNED TO BEING CHANGED TO LIBERTY, WASTE, SOMETHING THAT IS MORE, UH, CULTURALLY ACCEPTED BY ALL SOCIAL CLASSES IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, AND ALSO OVERUSE NAMES.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF CITIES THAT THEY WILL HAVE THE NAME OF THE CITY AND EVERY SINGLE STREET IN THAT CITY WILL HAVE A NAME IN CLOSE PRO PROXIMITY TO THAT CITY NAME OR A SUBDIVISION.
SO I ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXAMPLE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS A, A, A HYPOTHETICAL, UH, APPLICATION BY JOHN DOE.
YOU CAN SEE HIS SIGNATURE AT THE BOTTOM, THAT HE HAS A NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED PARK FON.
SUBDIVISION IS FRENCH FOR, UH, PARK FORK IN THE ROAD.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE WORD FON MEANS.
SO THEY NAMED ALL OF THEY STREETS, LAKE FON, HIGHWAY LAKE, FON CIRCLE, LAKE FON COURT, LAKE FON PARKWAY IN FON TRAIL.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP RIGHT HERE, YOU'LL SEE LAKE FON HIGHWAY IS IN A CUL-DE-SAC.
SO IT WILL BE MORE RESPECTED TO HAVE THAT STREET NAME LAKE FON COURT AND NOT LAKE FON HIGHWAY, BECAUSE THAT GIVES A FALSE REPRESENTATION ON WHAT THAT ACTUAL RIGHT OF WAY ACTUALLY SERVES AS.
SO WHEN WE ARE, UH, REVIEWING THIS APPLICATION, WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC, SOCIAL AND PHYSICAL IMPACT OF THE NAMES IN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
SO WE WILL ASK, SO WE'LL ACTUALLY DENY THIS APPLICATION.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, ALSO BECAUSE LAKE
SO THEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO APPLICATION THAT WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT WOULD BE APPROVED.
THIS NAME OF THE SUBDIVISION, THE SAME THING, PARK FRUIT.
SHAUN, THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE FRENCH NAME.
SO THEN THEY ACTUALLY NAMED ALL THE STREETS FRENCH, UH, NAMES.
SO THEY KEPT ONE OF THE PARK FON AND LAKE FON, BUT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
AND THE LAKE FON IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE LAKE.
AND YOU SEE FON TRAILS AS THEY TRAILED THAT THEY GOES THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY HAVE TWO OTHER NAMED, NAMED COURT THAT ACTUALLY IS IN THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHICH MEANS BELLMEAD, WHICH MEANS BEAUTIFUL
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LAND AND BEAUTIFUL.I FORGOT WHAT MEAD MEANS IN FRENCH.
SO, UH, LASTLY, UH, PRIVATE STREETS.
WE, UH, WE ALSO ASKED AN APPLICATION THAT PRIVATE STREETS IS NAMED.
UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE WORD PRIVATE ROAD OR STREET WRITTEN ON THE SIGN SO THAT SOMEONE KNOW THAT IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD, SO THEY DON'T GO DOWN A STREET THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
AND ALSO, I'LL HAVE TROUBLE SAYING THIS WORD, TROPO GRAPH CHARACTERISTICS.
SO WE CAN'T USE SYMBOLS LIKE DELTA, IOTA, SIGMA, UH, AND PIE INSIDE OF THE, UM, STREET, UH, NAMES WE HAVE TO USE ACTUAL, PROPER NAMES.
AND THEN ALSO, IF ANY APPLICANT, UH, IF WE DENY APPLICANT IN THE COMMISSION VOTES, UH, IN FAVOR OF OUR, UH, CONSIDERATION, THE APPLICANT DOES, THEY DOES HAVE A, A APPEAL PROCESS THAT THEY CAN GO THROUGH, WHICH THEY WILL ACTUALLY FILE, UH, WITH THE CITY IN, UH, THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AND THEN I'M GONNA GO QUICKLY THROUGH THE RENAMING OF CITY STREETS.
UH, SO YOU CAN RENAME A CITY STREET IN TWO WAYS.
ONE WAY IS THAT A ACTUAL, UH, CITY COUNCIL PERSON CAN, UH, REQUEST WITH THE CITY SECRETARY TO CHANGE A STREET OF A NAME, OR LIKE I SAID BEFORE THAT WE CAN, UH, RIGHT NOW THE, THE LAW STANDS AT THAT YOU NEED, UH, THE, UH, PETITION, UH, BY, BY THE PUBLIC.
AND ON THAT PETITION YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 70% OF THE LAND OWNERS OF THAT THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT STREET.
SO IT WILL COME TO THE CITY AND WE, US PUBLIC WORKS IN PLANNING GIS.
WE WILL ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT, UH, ANALYZE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT FITS THE THRESHOLD.
SO ON MONDAY, THEY ACTUALLY WILL BE A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THAT TO 60%.
AND THEN LASTLY IS JUST THE PROCESS OF THE PETITION.
THEY'LL ACT IF SOMEONE WAS ACTUALLY FILL OUT THE PETITION, IT'LL GO TO THE CITY, UM, IT'LL GO TO COUNCIL, AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'LL BE IMPLEMENTED THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, SO THE COST THAT IT TAKES TO, FOR THE CITY TO REPLACE THE STREET SIGNS, UM, NOW THAT IT'S BEING LOWERED TO 60%, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE 40% OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HAVE HAD THAT DECISION, THEY STILL HAVE TO BEAR THE COST OF, UH, CHANGING THAT SIGN? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UH, I GUESS THE CITY WOULD BEAR THE, ONCE THE STREET PROPOSED IS, UH, CHANGED? YES.
THE CITY WOULD, UH, BEAR THAT COST TO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CHANGE THAT ACTUAL SIGN.
UH, NUMEROUS TIMES, PEOPLE, UH, DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR OTHER AGENCIES WILL, UH, SPONSOR THE NAME OF THAT STREET.
SO, SO THAT THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO, UM, IT, SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S A RENAMING, UH, PETITION, UM, BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE APPLICANT, UM, IS ACTUALLY, UM, THE ONE THAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES TO, UM, PAY, UM, FOR THE COST OF CHANGING THOSE STREET SIGNS.
IF THE CITY COUNCIL, THEN WE, THE CITY WILL PAY FOR IT IF IT'S A CITY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN IT, YES.
QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE PACKAGE.
SO THE, THE NAMING CRITERIA WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE IS 16.3, RIGHT? UM, WAIT, WE'RE NOPE.
AM I GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF? NO, IT IS, IT IS.
SO IS, IS THAT THE NAMING CRITERIA FOR ALL STREETS GOING FORWARD? OR IS THAT THE RENAMING CRITERIA? SO, YEAH, AND I, I WANNA PUT A LITTLE CONTEXT AS TO WHY THIS IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU ALL TONIGHT.
UM, BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, STREET NAMES IS IN THE NEWS.
IT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS, UM, FOR SOME TIME SUBDIVISION NAMES AS WELL.
UM, SO THE COMMISSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY ACTIVE PART OF NAMING NEW STREETS.
SO THOSE PLATS THAT COME BEFORE YOU, UM, STREETS ARE DEDICATED AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
SO IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL, IT COULD BE A BUSINESS DECISION.
UM, BUT THEY'RE PRESENTING NAMES TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, PRIOR TO THESE REGULATIONS BEING ADOPTED, THE COMMISSION REALLY DIDN'T HAVE GUIDELINES AS TO APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF STREET NAMES.
UM, SO ANYTHING THAT CAME BEFORE YOU, YOU DIDN'T REALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANY GUIDELINES, UH, TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THAT.
THESE REGULATIONS GIVE YOU PARAMETERS MM-HMM.
UM, AND SO STAFF WILL EVALUATE IT BASED ON THOSE ADOPTED REGULATIONS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY IN YOUR PACKAGE YOU RECEIVE A COPY OF THE STREET NAME APPLICATION.
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UM, THE STREET NAME APPLICATION SHOULD MATCH THE NAMES OF THE STREETS THAT ARE SHOWN ON, UH, THE PLAQUE, WHETHER THEY'RE BEING DEDICATED AS PUBLIC, UM, STREETS, WHETHER THEY'RE BEING DEDICATED AS PRIVATE STREETS.UM, AND THEN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WILL INCLUDE THE, THE ANALYSIS HERE.
SO THE APPLICATION IS BUILT TO KIND OF PULL THAT INFORMATION FROM THE DEVELOPER.
WHAT'S THE THEME? YOU KNOW, UM, IF THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, NAMES THAT ARE BEING USED, WHAT'S THE, THE, YOU KNOW, MESSAGE BEHIND THAT SO WE CAN MAKE AN EVALUATION AND PRESENT THAT.
AND THEN IT'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.
SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
LIKE MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL THE STREETS ARE NAMED AFTER GOLF COURSES.
I DON'T SEE HOW THAT FITS IN HERE.
YOU'VE GOT SIX OF 'EM THAT RELATE TO PROPER NAMES AND SEVEN OTHERS THAT ARE FAR AWAY, THAT ARE FAIRLY SPECIFIC NATIONAL, STATE, OR LOCAL MM-HMM.
SO IT, IT, IT JUST LOOKS VERY RESTRICTIVE.
THAT'S ALL I WAS THINKING ABOUT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IF I WANTED TO START ONE THAT HAD STAR WARS NAMES COULDN'T DO THAT.
I'M JUST WONDERING, IS IT, IS IT TOO LIMITING? AND THAT, THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION.
SO IT'S, IT'S CRITERIA SO THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO MAKE THAT EVALUATION, UM, AND IT GIVES THE COMMISSION THE ABILITY TO EITHER APPROVE IT OR DISAPPROVE IT BASED ON THOSE PARAMETERS.
UM, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DISAPPROVE IT, BUT IT'S THE GUIDELINES WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION.
BECAUSE PRIOR TO THOSE REGULATIONS, IT WAS SILENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, THEY WERE STREET NAMES.
THEY, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE BEEN STAR WARS BASED, SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE NOTICED THIS, SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT IT UP.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE THEY'RE SILENT.
SO THIS JUST BRINGS IT INTO THAT DISCUSSION SO YOU CAN HAVE THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION, AND THEN YOU HAVE PARAMETERS BY WHICH YOU CAN EVALUATE.
AND, AND WHAT THIS ALSO DOES IS MOVING DOWN, SPEAKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, WE WON'T HAVE, SOMEONE WON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT RENAMING THE STREET.
I JUST, I JUST THINK IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE RESTRICTIVE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO OPEN A, LIKE, TO YOUR POINT WHERE YOU WANT TO NAME A SUBDIVISION WITH TREES AND STUFF, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT FITS IN THE CRITERIA THAT ARE WRITTEN HERE AND WHAT WE GOT.
AND THEY, AND ACTUALLY SOME OF THE ONES THAT YOU'VE SEEN, UM, I KNOW A LOT OF THE CNA ONES LATELY MM-HMM.
UM, SO THEY'LL DO LIKE A, YOU KNOW, SERIES OF FLOWERS.
THEY'LL DO, YOU KNOW, SERIES OF TREES OR PLANTS, UM, WATER, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, SO YOU'LL, YOU WILL SEE THAT.
SO THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT HAS TO FALL IN THOSE CATEGORIES.
IT JUST GIVES YOU THE PARAMETERS BY WHICH YOU CAN CONSIDER THOSE NAMES.
I, I DIDN'T READ IT THAT WAY BECAUSE IT SAYS THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA SHALL BE THE BASIS.
IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT CREATED ANY LEEWAY.
AND KEEP IN MIND TOO, THAT SECTION 16.3, UM, IT'S ALSO USED FOR RENAMING STREETS, SO IT ALSO TAKES THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S PARAMETERS TO EVALUATE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT, IF IT'S THAT CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO DISAPPROVE, THERE WILL BE SOME STREET NAMES THAT STAFF WILL RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT GONNA FIT, YOU KNOW, ON A STREET SIGN.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S JUST NOT PRACTICAL, YOU KNOW, TO PLACE IT THERE.
OR IT'S A REDUNDANT STREET NAME, YOU KNOW.
SO THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE YOU'LL HAVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THOSE ARE PARAMETERS AND GUIDELINES THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW.
WOULD THE PROPER WORD BE GUIDANCE? THIS IS YOUR GUIDANCE, NOT YOUR, YEAH, AGAIN, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING FROM A, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR LEGAL, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN WHEN IT SAYS IT SHALL BE THE BASIS, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
SHALL MEANS IT ULTIMATUM AND LEGAL BASIS.
SO THAT WAS, IT'S A GOOD POINT.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT, IT MADE GOOD SENSE TO ME.
SHELL MEANS ULTIMATUM AND LEGAL LEASE, BUT BASICALLY MOVING FORWARD, WE NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO THAT.
AND WE, WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UM, YOUR, THE ROLE THAT YOU PLAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENT? NOT FROM ME.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN A SECOND? HOLD ON, I'M CATCHING UP.
OH, WE HAVE MR. SILVA'S IN THE QUEUE.
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GREAT MEETING STEPH.