[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023.
WE'LL NOW CALL THE CITY, UH, NEW JERSEY, CITY OF RECREATION AND LEISURE, L G C MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:30 PM
[2. PRESENTATIONS]
ITEM NUMBER TWO, OUR PRESENTATIONS, UH, TWO A, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET, THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.FOR THE MC, MISSOURI CITY RECREATION AND LEISURE CORPORATION.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY KELLY O'DONNELL, GENERAL MANAGER.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON.
AND AS MY FIRST PRESENTATION, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE, UH, AS I MOVE ON ALONG HERE.
SO, THE FIRST THING I HAVE IS THE PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BEGINNING OC OCTOBER 1ST, UH, NEXT MONTH, AND ENDING NEXT SEPTEMBER, 2024.
HERE ARE A FEW OF THE PROJECTS COMPLETED AND FOR THE YEAR IN 2023, THE NEW IRRIGATION IS COMPLETE AROUND THE CITY CENTER.
THE BUILDING EXTERIOR HAS BEEN CLEANED.
WE REPAINTED THE OAK BOARDROOM, UH, IN A COLOR SCHEME THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE DO THE COMPLETE BUILDING IN.
UH, THERE'S BEEN OFFICE IMPROVEMENTS AS WE'VE HIRED, UH, TWO NEW GOLF PROFESSIONALS THAT DIDN'T HAVE OFFICES.
THE PARKING LOT LIGHTS OUTSIDE HAVE BEEN REPAIRED.
THERE'S NO MORE FLASHING OF THE LIGHTS OUTSIDE AT NIGHT.
WE'VE HAD EVERYTHING RES STRIPPED AS WELL IN THE PARKING LOTS.
AND THEN NEW MICROPHONES STANDS AND PODIUMS FOR ALL THREE OF OUR, UH, OUR BOARDROOMS. WE HAD ONE THAT WE MOVED AROUND, SO NOW WE HAVE ONE FOR EACH ROOM.
THE BUDGET PROPOSAL IS THAT, UH, YOU ACCEPT THE CURRENT BUDGET PROPOSAL OF 2023 ONGOING.
UH, AND YOU'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AROUND THAT, WHICH I'M FULLY PREPARED FOR.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE PROPOSED 2024 BEING THE SAME AS 2023.
UH, CURRENTLY WE ARE PACING RIGHT ON 2023.
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2024.AND THEN I REMEMBER TYSON BRINGING UP SECURITY CAMERAS IN THE PAST AND I WANNA SAY WE WERE MAYBE DOING A FEW HERE AND THERE.
ARE WE GOOD ON SECURITY CAMERAS NOW IN THE BUILDING? WE ARE.
AND WE HAD GOLF SHOP, UH, THE GRILL AREA.
YEAH, IT'S, IT, THERE'S GOOD COVERAGE.
RECOGNIZING COUNCILMAN BROWN MARSHALL.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATIONS.
SO FOR YOUR, UH, PROPOSED FORWARD YEAR 2024, UH, PROJECTS, UM, THESE ITEMS THAT YOU DESCRIBED, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING INSIDE OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO COVER THESE ITEMS? YES.
AND IS THERE A LONG-TERM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
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PLAN TO REPLACE FURNISHINGS OR TO REDUCE SOMETHING WITH THE BATHROOMS INSIDE OF THE YES.AND I, AND I HAVE THAT TO, I'M PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST.
I HAVE A PARTIAL LIST FOR 25 ROLLING INTO 26.
THAT'S GONNA BE A RENOVATION FOR FURNITURE AND THE CURTAINS AND THE MAGNOLIA AND MANY THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THE DEMOING ALL THE OTHER BATHROOMS AS WELL THAT ARE ON THE GOLF COURSE.
THAT'S, SO THAT IS ON MY LIST.
AND MY LAST THING IS, I HEARD THAT YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE TRENDING, UM, VERY WELL WITH CURRENT, WITH THE CURRENT YEARS' BUDGET.
IS THERE EVER AN OPPORTUNITY THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE HOW YOU ENDED UP ACTUALLY? SURE.
YEAH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GET THAT TO YOU.
SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE,
[3. DISCUSSION/POSSIBLE ACTION]
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH ARE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION THREE, A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, A RESOLUTION ADOPTING AN AMENDMENT TO SCHEDULE TO THE SCHEDULE OF FEES FOR THE USE OF QUA VALLEY GOLF COURSE AND CITY CENTER BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023.SO WHEN I CAME ON BOARD, UH, I NOTICED, YOU KNOW, FEE STRUCTURE HERE AND, UH, THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESS TO ME IT, IT, IT SEEMED A LITTLE OUT OF BALANCE THAT WE HAD SO MANY DIFFERENT FEES THAT LOOKED LIKE, UH, THAT WE NEEDED MORE BUSINESS THAN, THAN WE WERE ACTUALLY GETTING.
SO IN SEEING THAT AND JUST THINKING ABOUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE WE OFFER IN THE GOLF SHOP, I PROPOSE THAT WE REMOVE THE MIDDAY FEE, WHICH IS FROM 10:00 AM TO NOON, AND THE SUPER TWILIGHT FEE, WHICH IS AFTER 4:00 PM.
SO I DID A TRIAL TO SEE IF THAT, WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THIS HAD IN JUNE.
WE FILLED UP STILL ALL THE TIMES FROM 10 TO NOON, AND THE SUPER TWILIGHT TIMES SUFFERED A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE STILL MAINTAIN A LOT OF THAT BECAUSE IT WAS STILL NOT QUITE 140 DEGREES YET AS WE SAW THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
SO IN DOING SO, WE MADE MORE REVENUE, WHICH WAS NICE TO SEE, WHICH I FELT LIKE WE WOULD, BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTS TO PLAY QUA VALLEY AND IT'S BY FAR THE BEST CONDITION COURSE, NOT ONLY IN THE COUNTY, BUT IN THE AREA AS WE'VE HEARD FROM DIFFERENT GOLFERS.
SO I PROPOSE THAT JUST THESE TWO RATES BE REMOVED AS IT'S SHOWN NO IMPACT TO OUR GOLFERS.
THERE'S BEEN NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK TO THAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE OR THAT IS IT? THAT'S IT.
RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER KLAUSER.
SO YOU SAID THE SUPER TWILIGHT.
TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU SAW WITH THE SUPER TWILIGHT FEES.
WELL, WE HAVE, UH, THE REGULAR RATE, THEN WE HAD A MIDDAY 10 TO NOON, THEN WE HAD TWILIGHT AT TWO, THEN WE HAD TWILIGHT AFTER FOUR.
SO EVERY OTHER FACILITY I'VE WORKED AT IS, WE'VE DONE A TWILIGHT AFTER TWO O'CLOCK, WHICH USUALLY DOES VERY WELL AND RUNS UNTIL YOU CLOSE.
THE SUPER TWILIGHT DIDN'T SEEM TO REALLY PUSH ANY MORE PEOPLE.
IN FACT, IT, TO ME, IT, IT MADE MORE OF A NEGATIVE.
AND TO THE POINT OF IT MADE OUR STA OUR CARD STAFF STAY LATER INTO THE EVENING FOR TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.
SO THERE'S ALSO A SAVINGS THERE AS WELL.
AND THE SUPER TWILIGHT, THE, UH, THE RATE WAS NOT MUCH LESS THAN WHAT WE WERE OFFERING AT TWO O'CLOCK.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER BONY.
UH, I HAD A QUESTION, UH, MORE SO I GUESS CITY MANAGER AND KELLY, UH, RELATIVE TO, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION BEFORE YOUR ARRIVALS ABOUT, UH, THIS BEING AN ASSET TO THE CITY.
AND WE'VE IN THE PAST, OF COURSE, FUNDED A LOT OF, UH, MAINTENANCE COSTS AND OTHER EXPENSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF, UH, OF REVENUE TO COVER THE, THE OVERALL COST.
MY QUESTION IS, AS IT RELATES TO THESE FEE, THIS FEE ADJUSTMENT AS WELL AS OUR FUTURE OUTLOOK ON THIS, UM, DO YOU FORESEE THAT THIS CHANGE AS WELL AS ANY OTHER POTENTIAL CHANGES WITH THIS NEW BUDGET? I KNOW WE JUST HAD THE BUDGET CONVERSATION, BUT THIS IS MORE SO TIED TO FEES, UM, THAT THAT WILL OFFSET ANY FUTURE, UH, MAINTENANCE COSTS, ANY FUTURE EXPENSES THAT THE QUAIL VALLEY, UH, CITY CENTER GOLF COURSE WILL EXPERIENCE IN THE FUTURE.
HOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE VIEWING THIS GOING FORWARD? I THINK ULTIMATELY OUR PLAN WAS TO HAVE IT BE COST NEUTRAL FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF OR THE FACILITY BECAUSE IT'S A CITY ASSET, THE THOUGHT WAS THAT WE WOULD MAINTAIN THAT FACILITY JUST LIKE WE MAINTAIN ANY OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES.
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WAS THE DIFFERENCE WE MADE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COVER THIS FACILITY, RECOGNIZING THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THAT CONTINUES TO BE A VIABLE FACILITY.SO THE ONUS IS ON US TO GENERATE THE REVENUE, TO COVER THE ACTUAL ACTIVITY, GOLF ACTIVITY, NOT THE FACILITY ITSELF.
SO, SO TO BE CLEAR, UH, AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, OUR, YOUR OUTLOOK IS THAT WE LOOK AT THIS AS A ASSET OWNED BY THE CITY, JUST LIKE OUR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITY AND ANY OTHER BUILDING.
AND THAT WE JUST FOCUS ON THE COST, UH, COVERING THE COST OF MAINTENANCE AND GOING FORWARD.
SO NO DESIRE TO KIND OF JUST KEEP THIS SEPARATE AND APART AND KIND OF FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, DRIVING REVENUES UP TO A POINT DEFINITELY.
WHERE IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RELIED ON BY A CITY ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A, A OBJECTIVE THAT WE TRY TO ACHIEVE, NOT ONLY IN LOOKING AT REVENUES FROM THE ACTIVITY, BUT ALSO GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
IN TERMS OF MAYBE EVEN SOME NAMING RIGHTS THINGS WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA BE EXPLORING ALL KINDS OF OPTIONS IN TERMS OF HOW TO GENERATE REVENUE THAT WOULD TAKE US OVER WHAT WE RECEIVE IN TERMS OF ACTIVITY REVENUE.
BUT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL GUIDELINES IN TERMS, ANYTHING WE CAN GET OVER AND ABOVE THE COST, WE ARE GONNA TRY TO DO THAT, UH, THROUGH A MULTITUDE OF WAYS.
'CAUSE MY PRIMARY CONCERN, I JUST WANNA PUT THIS OUT, UH, AS I'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IS THAT WE ACCEPT THIS AS AN ASSET, WHICH IT IS OF THE CITIES MM-HMM.
AND YOU KNOW, MY FEAR IS THAT IF YOU'RE NOT IN THAT SEAT, OR YOU KNOW, NONE OF US ARE IN THAT SEAT, OR YOU'RE NOT IN THE SEAT THAT IT'S JUST LOOKED AT AS A, UH, A SITUATION WHERE IF IT'S LOSING MONEY OR WELL, IT'S A, IT'S A PART OF OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ASSET AND WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON IT INDEPENDENTLY, UH, FOR PROFITABILITY PURPOSES.
NO, I, I, I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THE PROFITS THERE TO COVER THE EXPENSES.
JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FACILITY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR COST CUTTING MEASURES.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR HOW CAN WE GET, GET, UM, GRANTS TO FUND, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO UPKEEP OUR FACILITIES.
SO IT'S, IT'S A GIVEN ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO FIND REVENUE TO COVER OUR EXPENSES.
UM, BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO BE COMPETITIVE.
WE HAVE TO TAKE IN, UH, IN THE MARKET AND WHAT WE CAN, UM, WHAT WE CAN CHARGE AND STILL BE COMPETITIVE.
AND SO WE'LL BE STILL TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE ALWAYS TO MAXIMIZE.
RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY.
UM, I HAVE THE SAME SENTIMENTS AT THIS, UH, PARTICULAR, UH, FACILITY BEING A, IT'S A GREAT ATTRACTION, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE PROFITABLE.
DO YOU FORESEE IN NEXT YEAR, DO YOU HAVE ANY PROJECTIONS ON IT, MAKING A PROFIT, BEING ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT ITS OWN, UH, ESTABLISHMENT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME MONEY FROM THIS? AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, UH, ARE THERE ANY OPTIONS TO EXTEND THE HOURS IN THE RESTAURANT? WHAT WAS THE SECOND QUESTION AGAIN? THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, ARE THERE ANY OPTIONS IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO EXTEND THE RESTAURANT, THE BLUE BONNET RESTAURANT ASPECT OF THE CO VALLEY CENTER? AS FAR AS THE HOURS? YES.
IN FACT, YOU MUST'VE BEEN LISTENING 'CAUSE I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT THAT, THAT WE SHOULD EXPAND OUR HOURS FOR SURE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE IT IS A POPULAR PLACE.
THE FOOD IS GREAT, EVERYONE LOVES TO COME THERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OURS EXPANDED.
'CAUSE IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO, TO COME EAT.
AND THE FOOD IS GREAT AND IT'S A GREAT, REASONABLE, REASONABLE PRICE.
UM, FOR EVERY FACILITY I'VE WORKED AT, PROFIT HAS BEEN MY FOCUS.
I WOULD LIKE US TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING FOR SURE.
IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? YES, SIR.
KELLY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, UM, IF I CAN GET, OKAY, THERE IT IS.
SO WHEN YOU SAY A TRIAL PROGRAM WAS INSTITUTED IN JUNE, UH, FOR THESE TEMPORARY OF REMOVING THESE RATES, JUST HOW DID YOU, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE PROGRAM THAT YOU PUT OUT THERE FOR THIS? JUST, WE DIDN'T HA WE DIDN'T REDU WE DIDN'T HAVE A REDUCTION IN RATE FROM 10 TO NOON.
SO YOU I JUST PUT THAT IN PLACE.
WE JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU IN THE SYSTEM, YOU CAN CLICK IT ON SO IT'S LIVE AND CHECK MARK IT OFF AND IT'S NO LONGER LIVE.
AND WE STILL BOOK THE 10 TO NOON TIMES AT THE RATE THAT WE OFFERED BETWEEN EIGHT AND 10, WHICH IS A HIGHER RATE.
AND THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS NO COMPLAINT FROM ANY NO, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO PLAY OKAY.
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KNOW, THE, THE MAIN FOCUS WHEREVER I GO IS YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE GREAT GOLF COURSE CONDITIONS.AND ONCE YOU GET THAT, THE WORD OF MOUTH GETS AROUND AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO PLAY THERE AND THEY'LL PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO SEE US TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M EXCITED ABOUT, THEY'RE LOOKING TO RE RENOVATION TOO.
SO WHERE WE CAN GET BOTH COURSES AT A GOOD RATE EQUAL.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, OUR, LOOKING AT OUR ROUNDS, THE RATES ARE 60% PEOPLE PLAYING EL DORADO TO LAQUINTA.
I WANT TO GET US 50 50 AT A BETTER RATE.
UH, CONSTABLE RECOGNIZING MAYOR PROTON MEMORY.
I THINK, UH, LET ME SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE, UH, COMMENTS THAT, UH, CITY MANAGER, UH, MADE EARLIER.
I THINK IN REGARDS TO WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BONY ASKED AS FAR AS PROFITABILITY OF THE GOLF COURSE.
I THINK WHAT WE FOUND IN THE PAST WAS THAT THE GOLF COURSE WAS PAYING FOR ITEMS THAT REALLY WEREN'T ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOLF COURSE WAS MORE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY CENTER, THE BUILDING ITSELF, WHICH IS AN ASSET OF MISSOURI CITY.
AND IT DRUG DOWN THE, UH, THE, UH, PROFITABILITY PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAD AND THE ACTUAL EXPERIENCE.
SO I THINK WE'VE GONE AWAY FROM THAT SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE ONLY PAYING FOR THE DOLLARS AND, AND THE ITEMS THAT ARE RELATIVE TO THE GOLF COURSE.
SO YOU CAN REALLY MEASURE HOW THE GOLF COURSE IS DOING AS OPPOSED TO THROWING IN THE, UH, AND AS AN EXAMPLE, REPAIR OF AN ELEVATOR.
WELL, IN THE PAST THAT WAS ALL PART OF THE CALCULATION AND DETERMINATION WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS PROFITABLE OR NOT.
AND I THINK WE'VE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT SO THAT WE CAN REALLY GET A GOOD TRUE PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE EARNING, UH, AT THE GOLF COURSE OPERATIONS.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOVING IN IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOAL WAS ALWAYS TO EITHER MAINTAIN, UH, A, UH, A, A NEUTRAL POSITION AS FAR AS, UH, EARNINGS, NO LOSSES, OR DO AS MUCH AS WE COULD TO TRY TO INCREASE THE REVENUE SO THAT WE CAN SHOW A PROFIT FROM, UH, THE GOLF COURSE.
AND I THINK WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, UH, AND, UH, THE POSITION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE, WITH OUR COMPETITORS, I THINK WE'RE, UH, UH, I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION TO BE ABLE TO, UH, ACCOMPLISH THAT, UH, THAT GOAL.
RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN MARSH.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR PRO TEM EMERY FOR THAT.
UM, MR. O'DONNELL, I DO WANNA ASK YOU ARE, UM, ARE WE CURRENTLY TRENDING TOWARDS A PROFIT FOR THIS CURRENT, UH, BUDGET YEAR? WE'RE VERY CLOSE.
WE'RE TRENDING RIGHT NOW AT THE BUDGET WAS ABOUT A, A LOSS OF $60,000 FOR THIS YEAR.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT DUE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE PUT THE, A LOT OF THE MERCHANDISE, AS I TOLD YOU, ON SALE IN THE GOLF SHOP.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE HIGHER THERE.
AND THEN THE COST OF FOOD IS ALSO HIGHER.
AND WE'VE, UH, HIRED TWO, WE HAVE TWO NEW STAFF MEMBERS THAT WERE NOT ON THE TEAM FROM LAST YEAR OKAY.
SO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT WE SHOULD BE VERY CLOSE IN MY OPINION.
SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE, I SEE A MOTION.
AND THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM THREE B IS ALSO A POSSIBLE ACTION AND CONSIDERATION TO AUTHORIZE A NEW LOGO FOR THE QUAY VALLEY GOLF COURSE MERCHANDISING KELLY.
SO THIS ITEM ALSO FLOWS INTO THE OP, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE MORE REVENUE.
AS I CAME IN AND WITH MY EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST IN MERCHANDISING SEVERAL AWARD-WINNING GOLF SHOPS, I FELT THE FIRST NEED THAT WE NEEDED TO DO HERE WAS CONSIDER A CHANGE TO THE LOGO.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS TO AUTHORIZE A NEW LOGO FOR QUAIL VALLEY GOLF AND CITY CENTER AND FOR GOODS AROUND THE CITY CENTER TO CREATE NEW EXCITEMENT ABOUT OUR BRAND FOR GOLF, GOLF SHOP, SALES AND COMMUNITY AWARENESS OF THE QUAIL VALLEY GOLF AND CITY CENTER.
SO THE NEW LOGO DESIGN IS IN CURRENT, AND I'VE, I'VE GIVEN YOU SAMPLES.
I HAVE THE OLD LOGO ON SCORECARD BEFORE YOU AND I HAVE THE NEW LOGO
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THAT I PROPOSE, WHICH IS CURRENT TO WHAT MANY FACILITIES ARE USING NOW.IT'S MORE OF A ROUNDED BROWN, A ROUNDED PATCH.
AND I'VE GOT, UH, EXAMPLES HERE OF, OF DIFFERENT FACILITIES THROUGHOUT AUSTIN COUNTRY CLUB, QUAIL HOLLOW, WHICH I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY CLEVER.
USING A FEATHER FOR PART OF THE QUEUE.
AUGUSTA NATIONAL GAVE ME THE INSPIRATION FOR THE RED FLAG.
'CAUSE THAT'S RECOGNIZED EVERYWHERE, ST.
ANDREWS WITH THE, THE DATE AND, UH, WESTWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
SO I FELT LIKE CHANGING IT TO THIS GIVES US A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PUSH AND SELL NEW, NEW, UH, ITEMS IN THE GOLF SHOP.
'CAUSE IT'S BEEN, I WOULD SAY, STAGNANT FOR THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS THAT I'VE, I'VE NOTICED THE, UH, THE SALES IN THE SHOP HAVE JUST BARELY EQUALED THE COST OF SALES IN THE SHOP.
SO I SEE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE GET IN AT QUAIL VALLEY.
I MEAN, WE'RE DOING 81,000 PLUS ROUNDS OF GOLF, PLUS ALL THE EVENTS, PLUS EVERYONE WHO COMES AND HAVE LUNCH WITH US.
I SEE A GREAT REVENUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US IN THE GOLF SHOP.
AND DOING A NEW LOGO IS A GREAT WAY THAT MANY FACILITIES DO THAT.
THEY WILL CHANGE THEIR LOGO EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
YOU, YOU SEE THAT IN THE ASTROS LOCALLY AS WELL.
DOES THAT END YOUR SLIDE? THAT, THAT, THAT IS IT.
RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY, MAY, MAY I APPROACH TO MEMORY? YEAH.
KELLY, UH, THE OLD LOGO THAT WE HAD, IS IT GOING TO DISAPPEAR COMPLETELY? IT IS NOT.
CAN YOU TELL US WHERE IT'S GONNA BE, UH, PROMINENT AND, AND YOU KNOW, A PART OF THE QUOTE, THE HISTORY OF QUAIL VALLEY? YEAH.
I, I CONSIDER THE HISTORY OF QUAIL VALLEY VERY IMPORTANT.
IN FACT, IT WAS ONE OF THE KEY PARTS FOR ME AND CONSIDERING TAKING THE JOB.
'CAUSE I LOVE THE HISTORY OF IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO REWORK IT A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE, BUT SO I DON'T PLAN ON GETTING RID OF IT ALL.
THIS IS JUST A LITTLE, LITTLE BUMP FOR US TO HAVE MORE SALES IN THE FACILITY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'VE, AND BEEN SHOWED BY SEVERAL OF THE, UH, LONGTIME PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
THEY'VE SHOWN ME THE OLDER ONES AS WELL.
SO I'D LIKE TO COME BACK, UH, AND DO SOME PRODUCT LATER.
MAYBE IT'S NEXT YEAR ONCE I REVAMPED THAT, UH, ON SHIRTS.
'CAUSE IT JUST, IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH.
IT LOOKS GREAT ON A GOLF BAG 'CAUSE IT GETS BIG ENOUGH.
AND ON SHIRTS, I DON'T FIND THAT IT'S, IT'S BIG ENOUGH.
SO, NO, NONE OF THE OLD LOGOS ARE GOING AWAY.
I JUST SEE THIS AS A QUICK BOOST TO REVENUE SALES IN THE GOLF SHOP.
ANYTHING THAT WOULD BOOST REVENUE, LET'S DO IT.
RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY.
UH, THANK YOU KELLY FOR ALL OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
MY QUESTION IS, ARE FOR, FOR THE MERCHANDISING LOGO, UM, IS IT GOING TO BE IN OUR CITY COLORS BLUE AND RED? OR IS IT GONNA BE IN OUR SUN RAY COLORS GREEN AND ORANGE.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT COLOR THINGS GOING ON.
IT'S A LITTLE AND THEY DON'T ACTUALLY BLEND WELL.
I WASN'T AWARE THAT WE HAD SPECIFIC COLORS TO ANYTHING THAT WAS IN THE GOLF SHOP.
'CAUSE IT'S THE THREAD COLORS AND EVERYTHING ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I DON'T GOLF, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S IN THE, THE GOLF SHOP.
MY QUESTION IS SPECIFICALLY, I, I PLAN ON DOING, BECAUSE I LOVE THIS, I LOVE THIS COLORWAY AND I PLAN ON UTILIZING THAT AS WELL IN THAT LOGO IN THIS ONE.
SO IS THIS GONNA BE OUR LOGO FOR EVERYTHING OR IS IT JUST FOR MERCHANDISING? I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE ROLLING OUT AS SOMETHING NEW ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE BUILD, IN THE BUILDING.
AND ARE YOU GONNA INCORPORATE WHICH COLOR SCHEME? BOTH OF THEM? OR JUST ONE OR THE OTHER? OR WHAT? UM, LIKE ON THE SCORECARD I WOULD KEEP IT THE SAME.
I WOULD KEEP IT THE SAME FOR SURE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE WEARING AND DIFFERENT COLORS, BECAUSE I'VE WORKED FOR FACILITIES THAT SAID, NO, IT'S GOTTA BE THIS COLOR ON THIS SHIRT AND IT, AND THEN WE MISS OUT ON SALES AND A LOT OF GREAT LOOKING SHIRTS.
'CAUSE YOU'RE SO TIED INTO WHAT COLOR THAT WOULD BE.
SO I LIKE THE FLEXIBILITY OF, OF COLOR IF THE LOGO WORKS FOR THAT.
AND I THINK, AND I THINK THIS ONE DOES.
AND ARE, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER LOGO OPTIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO REVIEW? OR IS THIS, IS THIS THE FINAL? THIS ONE IS DEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART 'CAUSE I CREATED IT MYSELF.
I RECOGNIZE AND COUNCIL MEMBER KLAUSER.
I BUT FROM A BRANDING STANDPOINT, IS IT POSSIBLE
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TO PUT QUAIL VALLEY GOLF COURSE UNDER IT? INCLUDE THAT? I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S MY THOUGHT, BUT, UM, UM, IT JUST, IT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE OUR OLD ONE HAS QUAIL VALLEY GOLF COURSE ON IT.AND YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA KNOW WHAT THIS IS.
BUT FOR A TRUE BRANDING, UH, I, I THINK IT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE QUAIL VALLEY GOLF COURSE.
WELL FOR, AND YES, WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT I KNOW FOR, YOU KNOW, THANKS TO SOCIAL MEDIA, GOLF HAS BECOME REALLY COOL AGAIN AFTER BEING FLAT AND STAGNANT.
AND WHO WANTS TO PLAY THAT GAME? IT TAKES TOO LONG AND IT'S TOO HARD.
SO THANKS TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVERYTHING, THERE'S SO MANY LOGOS OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE GET AND, AND WHERE IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A BADGE OF HONOR AND PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY, HEY, THAT'S WHERE IS THAT? SO I ALSO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SELLING POINT ON THAT'S A REALLY COOL LOGO.
WHERE IS THAT? OH, THAT'S QUAIL VALLEY.
WELL, WHERE IS THAT? SO I THINK IT TELLS A STORY THAT WAY AS WELL.
BUT ALSO, YEAH, I THINK LIKE ON A GOLF BAG FOR SURE, WE CAN DO THAT AND PUT THE NAME UNDER IT.
WHEN WE LOOK AT A SHIRT, THAT'S A LOT TO PUT ON A SHIRT AND THAT'S WHY I DID IT.
NOW ON A CAP, WHAT I, WHAT I WANTED TO DO, AND I, AND I WILL DO, IS YOU CAN DO THE LOGO ON THE FRONT OR THE SIDE AND THEN QUELL VALLEY WOULD BE ON THE BACK.
SO IT DEFINES WHAT IT IS ON THE BACKSIDE.
I STILL, I MEAN, I I HEAR YOU.
I I STILL FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE QUAIL VALLEY GOLF COURSE ON HERE OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS, THIS IS MISSOURI CITY.
AND WE, AND I'LL PUT THAT ON SOME HATS.
RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN MARSHALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM, I HAVE JUST A SMALL CONCERN BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES CHANGE, UH, THE TEMPERAMENT OF WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.
AND SO I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE, MAYBE WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT IDEAS WITH THIS, EVEN INSIDE OF THE CURRENT COLOR SCHEME THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
I REALLY, REALLY LIKE THIS A LOT, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, OH YEAH, I DO LIKE THAT.
THEN I LOOK AT THIS, IT SPEAKS TO WHAT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN KLAUSER WAS TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE BRANDING.
AND SO IT'S
AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO, AGAIN, A GREAT LOGO ON GOLF BAGS AS WELL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MORE SEAMLESS.
MAKE IT TOGETHER AND, AND MAKE IT A MARRIAGE.
UM, MAYOR, UM, UH, WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, BUT OH, HE HAS A QUESTION.
YEAH, I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
I MEAN, I KIND OF LIKE THIS, BUT I GO BACK TO, IF YOU, IF YOU LIVE IN MISSOURI CITY, YOU KNOW, QUA VALLEY IS, IS ONE OF OUR COURSES THAT WE HAVE HERE.
BUT OTHERWISE IT DOESN'T TELL ME WHERE QUA VALLEY IS.
AND FOR ME, IT'S ALL ABOUT BRANDING.
UM, SO WITHIN THIS CIRCLE, I SEE THE 1970, SO MAYBE AT THE TOP OR AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS QUA VALLEY GOLF, YOU PUT MISSOURI CITY OR MISSOURI CITY OR SOMETHING ON IT.
I, I THINK I'M, AND I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR OTHERS, IT WAS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION BECAUSE YOU, YOU WOULD THINK THAT EVERYBODY KNOW THAT IT'S MISSOURI CITY.
UH, BUT I LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT, UH, PRINTED THAT SHOWS, I MEAN, WITHIN THIS, FOR ME SURE.
IT'S WITHIN THIS, WHAT YOU CAN WORK WITH IT AND TO CREATE THAT.
I GET THE SHIRT, I GET THE BAG, I GET ALL OF THAT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING WITHIN, IT'S LIKE THE SEAL THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE BEHIND US MM-HMM.
SO, YOU KNOW, ON THIS PAPER IS JUST THE LOGO BY ITSELF.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE SEAL WITH, WITH THE LOGO IN IT.
SO ALL I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT SOMEWHERE IN HERE, IF IT CAN SAY QUA VALLEY GOLF COURSE OR MISSOURI CITY, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
WE CAN DO BOTH AND HAVE A MIX.
THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
SO NO ONE ELSE, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE QUEUE, SO I HAVE A QUESTION THERE.
SO ARE WE VOTING ON THIS LOGO OR ARE WE VOTING ON THEM TO REVISE THE LOGO? I WOULD ASK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR, PORT MEMORY.
UH, I THINK, UH, WHAT I, UH, HAD, UH, MADE THE MOTION ON WAS THE, UH, AUTHORIZING THE NEW LOGO FOR THE QUA VALLEY GOLF COURSE.
SO THAT WAS THE, THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
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IT TO ADD MISSOURI CITY OR GOLF COURSE? IS THAT YEAH.IS THAT WHAT YOU WELL, I, YEAH, I, I GUESS I WOULD AMEND IT AND, AND ASK, UH, UH, KELLY TO, UH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
WE CAN BRING BACK A, UH, ANOTHER VERSION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND THEN WE CAN, UH, VOTE ON AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO ARE YOU CAREFUL, HAPPY TO DO SO.
SO JUST LEMME GO TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PONY.
YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT AS I READ IT, WAS TO AUTHORIZE A NEW LOGO.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT, AS I READ IT, THAT WE'RE MAKING IT A DEFINITIVE DECISION ON THIS LOGO ITSELF.
BUT ARE YOU SAYING, BECAUSE I WAS, I, I SECONDED IT BASED OFF OF THE FACT THAT WE WERE AUTHORIZING THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD DO A NEW LOGO.
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS THE FINAL.
SO IS THIS THE FINAL AS YOU WERE PRESENTING IT? THAT WAS MY PROPOSAL, YES.
WELL, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT I, UH, I THOUGHT WE WERE VOTING ON.
I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE VOTING ON TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A NEW LOGO TO BE CREATED AND THAT THIS WAS KIND OF THE DRAFT, IF YOU WILL, LIKE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
BUT WAIT, YEAH, AS YOU SAID, SAMPLES.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE, FIGURED THAT THIS WAS LIKE A, A DRAFT.
SO TO COUNCILMEMBER, I MEAN, MAY I REPORT TO MEMORY'S POINT? SO YOU'RE PULLING THAT TO BRING IT BACK, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT MOTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOGO.
AND SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
ARE CAN WE, ARE WE ADMITTING THE MOTION TO POSTPONE? CAN WE AUTHORIZE HIM TO, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CREATION OF A LOGO AND BRING THAT LOGO OR THOSE LOGO DESIGNS BACK? SURE.
I THOUGHT AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THIS WAS, THIS, THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS FOR YES, BUT YOU SAID IT, THIS
I THOUGHT IT WAS, WELL, AGAIN, AGAIN, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I PULLED THIS OR, OR AMENDED IT TO, UH, STATE THAT, UH, KELLY WOULD TAKE THE CONSIDERATION INTO CONSIDERATION THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE'VE MADE AND COME BACK WITH ANOTHER LOGO, IF YOU WILL, FOR OUR, UH, CONSIDERATION REVIEW AND, AND APPROVAL.
UH, AND PUT IT ON, UH, YOU KNOW, AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
ONCE, UH, HE'S BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH, UH, WHATEVER HE NEEDS TO DO TO, UH, TO CREATE, UH, WITH SOMETHING NEW.
SO CITY MANAGER, IS THIS AN ITEM CITY SECRETARY THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON TONIGHT? I THINK, UM, YOU EITHER NEED TO POSTPONE IT OR COME UP WITH AN AMENDED MOTION THAT INCLUDES BRINGING IT BACK, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE, UM, SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HERE AND BRING IT BACK AT ANOTHER MEETING.
SO, IF I MAY, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IT SOUNDED LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM WITHDREW HIS MOTION AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER BONY MADE A MOTION FOR THE TEAM TO COME BACK WITH SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR A NEW LOGO.
RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER KLAUSER.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU'VE TOOK AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR.
UM, BUT I, I WOULD RECOMMEND, I KNOW THAT YOU, YOU RAN THE ONE LOGO THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT GOLFERS AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT MAYBE YOU GET WITH LIKE, FORM SOME TYPE OF, UH, FOCUS GROUP.
I MEAN, WE TAKE, WE TAKE BRANDING SERIOUSLY.
I DO BRANDING EVERY DAY, ALL DAY.
IN MY, PER IN MY, MY PERSONAL CAREER.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M COMING UP WITH A LOGO, I ALWAYS HAVE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF IT AND I ALWAYS RUN IT BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
SO, UM, NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM YOUR CREATIVITY AND YOUR EXPERIENCE, BUT I THINK IT'S GOT TO, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE LOGO, IT'S GOTTA BE RIGHT.
AND WE'VE GOTTA GET DIFFERENT, UM, OPINIONS RIGHT.
SO, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT WAS MY SURE, MY, MY THOUGHT.
WELL I ACTUALLY DID A LOT OF THAT THROUGH MY VENDOR PARTNERS WITH DIFFERENT APPAREL COMPANIES.
'CAUSE I REACHED OUT TO THEM FOR ADVICE AND HELP AS WELL.
AND THIS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT RENDERINGS TO WHAT BECAME THIS FINALLY.
SO THAT I HAVE DONE A LOT OF THAT YES.
BUT, BUT I AM TAKING ALL YOUR SUGGESTIONS.
I WILL COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE.
COUNCIL MEMBER BONY, CAN YOU, UH, REEMPHASIZE YOUR MOTION ONE MORE TIME BEFORE WE GO? UM, I AM MAKING A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE, UH, KELLY O'DONNELL, THE GENERAL MANAGER, UH, TO, UH, FOR THE CREATION OF A NEW LOGO FOR THE QUAIL VALLEY GOLF COURSE
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MERCHANDISE.THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, OUR CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSIONS HERE.
AND ITEM NUMBER SIX IS WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 6:10 PM.