[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL THE, UH, OCTOBER 11TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER.
SO, ROLL CALL WE HAVE IS, IS HE GONNA BE MISSING? MISS HIM? HE'S INSPECT.
HEAR THE, FOR NOW HE'S ABSENT.
AND THEN OUR DEAR CHAIRMAN, WHO HOPEFULLY WILL BE BACK NEXT MONTH, THIS NOT HERE.
SO WE DID YOU HAVE IT ALL? ALL RIGHT.
[a. Consider approving the minutes of the September 13, 2023, Special Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting.]
I NEED A MOTION ON TWO MINUTES OF APPROVAL.THE, WE HAD TWO MEETINGS LAST MONTH.
SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FIRST MEETING, WHICH IS A, WE FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT WE WERE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES TODAY, SO WE WILL NOT BE USING THE VOTER PANELS.
I'LL JUST BE RECORDING EVERYBODY'S VOTE.
AND SO, SAM, YOU'LL ABSTAIN 'CAUSE YOU WEREN'T HERE.
SO THE THIRD CATEGORY IS, UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ABSTAINING FROM VOTING? AND IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT WASN'T PRESENT.
AND THE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SECOND MEETING THAT WE HAD, WHICH IS B? SO MOVED.
[b. Consider approving the minutes of the September 13, 2023, Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting.]
OKAY.I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SECOND MEETING, WHICH IS B.
[4. COMMISSION REPORTS]
REPORTS, UH, ANY OF THE PLANNING ZONING, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY REPORTS? I HAVE ONE LETTER I'D LIKE TO READ.I WAS ABLE TO SERVE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER RODNEY GRIFFIN, AND I THINK I HAD MENTIONED LAST NIGHT.
HE'S TRULY ONE OF THE MOST GRACEFUL, ELEGANT MEN THAT I'VE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF.
UH, NOT ONLY MEETING BUT SERVING WITH.
AND, UH, HE RESIGNED HIS, UH, POSITION AND HE WOULD ASK THAT I READ THIS SHORT LETTER.
SO, GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM SECRETARY.
THIS EMAIL SERVES AS MY LETTER OF, UH, RESIGNATION FROM SERVICE IN THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.
MY TIME SERVED HAS BEEN NOTHING SHORT OF ENJOYABLE, FULFILLING, AND I BELIEVE HONORABLY I SHALL CONTINUE MY LIFELONG JOURNEY OF PUBLIC SERVICE IN ANOTHER VENUE.
PERHAPS I WILL SEEK ERVING MY BELOVED CITY OF 43 YEARS AT A MORE PERPE PERPETUAL TIME.
UM, SIGNED COMMISSIONER RODNEY GRIFFIN, AND WE'LL MISS HIM.
SO I'M, I SURE DO APPRECIATE HIM SERVING WITH US.
[5.a. Development Services]
OKAY.I DON'T HAVE A REPORT TONIGHT.
UM, UM, BUT I DO, I JUST WANNA SAY WELCOME, UH, TO OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER.
UH, YOU'RE NOT NEW TO THE CITY, BUT WELCOME ABOARD.
AND, UH, JUST TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR FORMER COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN.
AND I THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE, UH, TO THE COMMISSION.
AND SO I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU AS SAM, BECAUSE I LOVE THE NAME SAM.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO CALL YOU SAM.
PLEASE PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME AS WE WELCOME YOU TO, UH, THE PLAN ZONING COMMISSIONER.
SS H YOU KNOW, SHA UHHUH, IRAN, IF YOU TO SHAZA.
AND MY LAST NAME IS EVEN A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
SHAZA, BUT THE LAST NAME IS CHALA.
I PROMISE I'M GONNA PRACTICE IN THE MEANTIME.
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AND ARE WE GONNA ENGINEERING[5.b. Engineering]
ENGINEERING? YES.AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UH, ECHO THE SEDIMENTS, WELCOMING OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER AND, UH, CELEBRATING OUR PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER SERVICE TO THE CITY.
UH, JUST AS A WAY OF AN UPDATE, UH, OUR ENGINEERING STAFF HAS, UH, CHANGED RECENTLY.
OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, AMEDIA HAS MOVED ON TO BIGGER AND BRIGHTER OPTIONS.
UM, NOT, NOT CELEBRATE HER LOSS, BUT CELEBRATE HER ABILITY TO DO THAT.
AND SO, UH, WE WILL BE REVIEWING SOME OF THOSE DOCUMENTS IN-HOUSE, SOME OF OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UM, OTHER ONES WE WILL BE, UH, SENDING OUT.
SO, UH, AND THAT ALSO COINCIDES WITH THE CHANGE IN THE RECENT LEGISLATION THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSES ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED, UH, AT THE PLATTING STAGE.
SO THERE'LL BE A BRIEF GAP, UM, IN WHERE WE WILL BE REVIEWING TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT PA PICKING BACK UP THOSE ANALYSES ALONG WITH DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS AT THE PLAN REVIEW STAGE.
SO, SO, AND I APPRECIATE HER BEING HERE FOR AS LONG AS SHE WAS, AND I KNOW SHE WAS VERY QUALIFIED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE MOBILITY PLAN AND YOU PRESENTED IT AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB WITH IT AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GOING FORWARD AND THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE LIGHTS THAT WE INVESTED IN THAT AREN'T COMMUNICATING WELL, UM, BUT THEY WILL BE ONE DAY
SO WHEN YOU INTERVIEW, IS THAT A PRIORITY? SO TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT QUALIFIED TO INITIATE ALL THOSE CONNECTION POINTS, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY WHO'S FORWARD FACING IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY.
UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS VERY ORIENTED TOWARDS SAFETY.
SAFETY IS A VERY LARGE COMPONENT.
UH, IT'S, IT'S A LARGE CONSIDERATION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO WE WANT SOMEBODY WHO ISN'T, WE WANT SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS THE FUTURE TRENDS AND CURRENT AND FUTURE TRENDS OF TECHNOLOGY, BUT CAN ALSO BALANCE THAT WITH SAFETY ASPECTS.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE ON THE BLEEDING EDGE OF TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LIVES, OUR LIVES AND THE LIVES OF OUR CITIZENRY DEPEND UPON THE WELL-FUNCTIONING OF THESE SYSTEMS. SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK FOR SOMEBODY WITH A COMBINATION OF SKILLS.
I'M HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING AROUND ON MY COMPUTER SCREEN.
DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY.
I AM TRYING TO GET OUTTA MY SCREEN WITHOUT IT LEAPFROGGING.
OKAY, SO NO PUB, NO ANYONE, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT,
[a. CONSENT AGENDA]
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.OH, I THINK IT WAS ME, SO I WAS TRYING TO MOVE AND IT WAS KEEPING THE PAGE, BUT I'LL, I'LL USE THE PEN NOW.
SO I WAS TRYING WITH MY FINGER.
THANK YOU MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.
OKAY, CONSENT, AGENDA CONSIDERATION, UH, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLATT FOR SIENNA.
AND THAT'S, I DON'T, DON'T SEE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY PLATT OF SIENNA.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLATT AT PARKWAY CROSSING DETENTION.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLATT AT INDEPENDENCE
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BUSINESS PARK.SO ALL THESE GONNA BE PRE PRESENTED? NO.
UNLESS, UNLESS THE COMMISSION TAKES ONE OFF.
UM, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR FINAL PLATT OF INDEPENDENCE,
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF PRELIMINARY PLATT OF CNA SIX, UH, SECTION 65.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF FINAL PLATT OF SIENNA, SECTION 50 C.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLATT OF SIENNA.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR FINAL PLATT OF SIENNA 60, SECTION 67, AND CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF FINAL PLATT OF 10 FOREST GREEN.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO, AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA AGAINST NONE.
[a. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT - ROTHWELL OFFICE WAREHOUSE]
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO EIGHT, WHICH IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, ROTHWELL OFFICE WAREHOUSE.BEFORE YOU IS A ZONING CASE, UM, THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION DURING THE SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2023, UM, PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BY MONICA, UM, FONTANO, POINDEXTER OF CHESTERFIELD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHICH IS TO, UH, REQUEST A PD TO ALLOW FOR WAREHOUSE USES OFFICE WAREHOUSE USE, UH, USES.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED SOUTH OF CALVARY AND DAN FELLOWSHIP CHURCH AND EAST OF EAST, I'M SORRY, AND EAST OF ROTHWELL STREET.
UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION REMAINS, UH, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, UM, AND FORWARD IT AS A FINAL REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL.
PREVIOUSLY, A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, UM, DEPICTED TWO WAREHOUSES EACH OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN DUE TO THE COMMISSION'S, UH, RESPONSE THAT WAS EXPRESSED DURING THE SEPTEMBER 13TH MEETING.
THE NEW SITE PLAN DEPICTS, UH, ONE WAREHOUSE, WHICH IS 5,656, UH, SQUARE FOOT, SQUARE FEET, UH, MM.
THE SUBJECT SITE WOULD STILL PROVIDE A USE FOR, UM, A PRIVATE USE AND FOR STORAGE OF PRODUCTS FOR A RETAIL BUSINESS.
THE PROPOSAL, UH, REMAINS AS NOT IN COMPLIANCE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF 2017.
AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, STILL IDENTIFIES THE PROCE THE PROPERTY AS A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.
DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSAL.
AGAIN, LC TWO ALLOWS FOR OFFICE BUILDINGS.
HOWEVER, THE CURRENT, UM, UNDERLINING ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW FOR WAREHOUSE USES.
UH, IN THE REVISED, UH, SITE PLAN, THE SETBACKS, UM, PROPOSED ARE 30 FEET, UM, ON THE FRONT YARD, 20 FEET ON THE REAR YARD, AND 20 FEET ON THE EAST AND WEST FOR THE SIDE YARD.
AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 22 FEET AND TWO INCHES.
TYPICALLY, UM, YOU WILL SEE AN LC LC FOUR ZONING, AS WELL AS INDUSTRIAL ZONING, WHICH THOSE ZONING, UM, UH, CLASSIFICATIONS ALLOWS FOR THOSE TYPES OF SIZE OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH IS, UM, THEY CAN MITIGATE THE CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THE SETBACKS FOR, UM, A BUILDING AND USE OF THE PROPOSED ESTABLISHMENT.
UM, WE WOULD ASK TO MINIMIZE ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS WERE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIALLY ZONED, UH, PROPERTY, WHICH IS TO THE EAST, UH, PORTION OF THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, WE REQ THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE SETBACKS SHOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 30 FEET AS REQUIRED FOR SIMILAR TYPES OF, UH, DEVELOPMENTS.
AND FOR THE LANDSCAPING, UM, REGULATIONS OF SECTION 11, WHICH SPECIFICALLY 11.4 POINT A TRANSITIONAL BUFFY YARDS ARE REQUIRED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT IS DEVELOPED AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIALLY ZONED, UH, DISTRICTS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED
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IN ADDITION TO, UM, ADJACENT TO ANY MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS AND COLLECTOR STREETS.UM, AS DETERMINED UNDER THE CITY'S MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WHEN NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, UH, JOIN A RESIDENTIAL USE TYPE A SCREENING CONSISTING OF AN EIGHT-FOOT MASONRY WALL AND CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED.
AND WHEN NON-RESIDENTIAL USE, UM, IS ADJACENT TO COLLECT OR A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE TYPE B SCREENING IS REQUIRED, WHICH WOULD CONSIST OF CANOPY TREES, UNDERSTORY TREES, AS WELL AS SHRUBS.
A TRANSITIONAL BUFFER YARD IN BOTH INSTANCES WOULD REQUIRE A 20, UM, 20 FEET AND WIDTH OF A TRANSITIONAL BUFFER YARD.
THE CONCEPT, UM, THE REVISED LANDSCAPE PLAN, UM, IT DOES MENTION THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE, HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE THE MATERIALS FOR THAT EIGHT EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
UM, AND IF THE, THE ZONING CASE IS APPROVED, THE PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO BE PLOTTED.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
SO WHEN YOU, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP AND YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THE, THESE LOTS THAT ARE ALL NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THERE'S SIX OF THEM, AND THEN THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY THE CATEGORY THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
AND, UH, ALL THE NEIGHBORS I WAS TOLD LAST TIME GAVE IT A THUMBS UP.
SO LET'S SAY THEY COULD BUILD IT, ACCOMMODATE ENGINEERING'S REQUIREMENTS AND FIRE AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED SO HARD TO HAVE AS CRITERIA FOR DEVELOPMENT.
IF THEY COULD DO THAT, WOULD YOU STILL BE OPPOSED TO INCREASING THE NUMBER OF LC TWO BY TWO LOTS? STAFF WOULD STILL BE, UM, IN OPPOSITION OF IT DUE TO THE STREET THE SIZE OF THE STREET CURRENTLY.
AND IF THOSE FUTURE USES WILL BRING IN, UM, HEAVIER TRAFFIC, UM, THAT WOULD INTERFERE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE THERE CURRENTLY.
UM, ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE A RESID, UM, INDUSTRIAL, I'M SORRY, UH, WAREHOUSE USES THAT ARE COMING IN ON THAT L LC FOUR PROPERTY AS WELL.
UM, SO IN THE CURRENT POSITION THAT IT'S IN RIGHT NOW, STAFF STILL SEES IT AS, UM, AS IN, UH, A NOT GOOD OF A SITE, NOT GOOD OF AN AREA FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
FOR SOME OF THOSE REASONS, COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION, MY, MY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS SIMILAR TO COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS.
Y'ALL DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THAT'S OPEN.
SO IF YOU WANNA OPEN AND CLOSE THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, AND THEN I WAS GONNA KEEP IT OPEN.
I JUST WANTED TO TALK BEFORE WE BROUGHT UP THE NO, I, I, I WILL BE VERY BRIEF.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING WITH, UM, THE NEIGHBORS THAT I KNOW.
THAT WAS A CONCERN WE HAD LAST MONTH MM-HMM.
UM, SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN WILLING TO MAKE THE, MAKE THE, UH, ADJUSTMENTS AND ENGINEERING WAS GOOD WITH IT, RIGHT? IF MEMORY SERVES ENGINEERING, UH, WE LOOKED AT IT.
AND FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, THERE IS CONCERNS JUST BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL KINDS OF TRAFFIC BY REZONING, IT CAN COME IN AS ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME IN JUST AS WHAT'S PROPOSED.
SO THERE IS CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE KINDS OF TRAFFIC THAT COULD COME IN ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THOSE WILL COME IN.
THERE ARE JUST CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS IS PART OF A, UH, REGIONAL DETENTION FACILITY THAT FROM OUR MOST RECENT PENDING DRAFT STUDY APPEARS TO BE CLOSE TO CAPACITY.
AND SO DETENTION FOR THIS SITE WOULD NEED TO BE MITIGATED ON SITE.
UM, AND GIVEN THE, THE CURRENT LAYOUT, UH, THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE MUCH ROOM FOR THAT.
UH, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE HANDLED WITHIN THE DRIVEWAY.
HOWEVER, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DRAINAGE DOCUMENTS AS WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE DRAINAGE DOCUMENTS AT THIS STAGE.
SO THIS IS ALL JUST, UH, EXPERIENCE.
AND THESE WOULD BE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT ENGINEERING WOULD HAVE, UH, MOVING FORWARD, UH, IF THE COMMISSION DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE ZONING CHANGE.
AND THIS IS, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UH, ENGINEERING CONCURS, UH, WITH PLANNING ON THIS.
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THANK YOU.SO, JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON THAT, IF, SINCE MOST OF THE AREA AROUND, UH, ROTHWELL IS ZONED WHAT LC FOUR AND, AND HIGHER, IF, UH, THIS, IF THIS PLAN, IF THIS, UH, CHANGE WERE TO BE MADE AND THE BALANCE OF THOSE SIX OR EIGHT ADDITIONAL LOTS EVENTUALLY WOULD MAKE THE SAME CHANGE FOR SOME AS, AS RESIDENTS CHOSE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THEIR PROPERTY, WOULD THAT AT THAT POINT KIND OF DRIVE THE TRAFFIC, THE STREET ISSUE TO A, TO A POINT WHERE IT COULDN'T BE APPROVED ANY FURTHER IMPROVED, NOT APPROVED, IMPROVED ANY OR, OR CHANGED MUCH GOING FORWARD? DOES THAT, AM I TRYING TO, YES.
SO I'D, I'D LIKE TO CAVEAT THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO A HYPOTHETICAL DOMINO SITUATION, BUT PLAYING OUT THE HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE ONE.
UM, ASSUMING THIS ONE REZONES AND DEVELOPS IN THIS FASHION AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ALSO REZONE AND DEVELOP IN THIS FASHION, THEN AT SOME POINT, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME IN AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROAD.
OR, UH, THE, THE UNFORTUNATE DEVELOPER WHO COMES IN AND THEY'RE THE ONE WHO TRIPS UP THE USE, AND NOW WE NEED, UH, A MORE ROBUST ROAD SEGMENT MAY THEN HAVE TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, SO IF IT DOMINOES, THEN IT, AT SOME POINT IT'LL BECOME A DEVELOPER'S BURDEN TO IMPROVE THIS ROADWAY, WHICH, WHICH THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO DO.
UM, IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN, THEN WE MIGHT GET STUCK WITH THIS KIND OF HALFWAY SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE THIS, UM, VERY MIXED USE AREA, BUT, UH, NOT NECESSARILY HOMOGENOUS MIXED USES.
UM, OR IT'D BE, IT WOULD BECOME THE BURDEN OF THE CITY TO IMPROVE THIS ROAD.
UH, IF, IF THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY WISHES TO GO THAT ROUTE AND ENCOURAGE THIS SORT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, UH, WITH THE LONG-TERM PLAN OR LONG-TERM UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS ROAD WOULD NEED TO BE IMPROVED.
UM, BUT THOSE WOULD BE SOME OF THE LONG-TERM CONSIDERATIONS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MADE AT THIS TIME.
OR, HOW DO I SAY IT? THOSE CONSIDERATIONS DON'T NEED TO BE MADE AT THIS TIME, BUT THOSE NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME THAT, WHERE THIS WOULD BE STARTING THAT DOMINO POTENTIALLY.
YOU'RE MUCH MORE ELOQUENT IN YOUR RESPONSE THAN I WAS IN MY QUESTION, SO I I APPRECIATE THAT.
I REMEMBER, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS WITH THE DISCUSSION WOULD ALWAYS COME UP ON ANY DEVELOPMENT ON MURPHY ROAD AND FIFTH STREET, THAT THIS IS THE INTRODUCTION TO MISSOURI CITY.
IT IS THE SENSE OF ARRIVAL AND WE WERE VERY PROTECTIVE OF THAT INTER INTERSECTION.
UM, BUT WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT THE SENSE OF ARRIVAL COMING DOWN FIFTH STREET.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M VI ENVISIONING AN INVESTMENT.
AND THEN THAT CORNER BEFORE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD DEVELOPED AND CHANGED THE GAS STATION, THERE'S A WAREHOUSE TICKET, RIGHT? GOING TO MURPHY AND THERE'S SOME INVESTMENT THERE.
AND THEN THE STREET, WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT, THIS IS A MIXED USE.
I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A MIX AND IT JUST SEEMS WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS ADJACENT THAT ARE PART OF THE R TWO ALL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE LOTS.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PITCH ANYBODY, BUT I DON'T, I'M NOT CAVALIER ABOUT SOMEBODY INVESTING IN THEIR, THEIR RESOURCES TO DEVELOP SOMETHING FOR THEIR COMPANY, FOR THEIR BUSINESS.
AND THEY WANT TO DO IT IN OUR TOWN.
THEY WANNA BE OUR NEIGHBOR BUSINESS WISE THAT ISN'T THAT WHAT WE WANT? SO ANYWAY, UM, THE APPLICANT, IF THEY'RE HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, PLEASE COME UP CONSIDERING WE'RE STILL IN A GOOD EVENING.
I'M SO DELIGHTED TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY.
UM, I WAS JUST TALKING WITH THE OWNER.
HE IS, UH, PRESENT AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OUT OF THOSE FOUR HOUSES THAT YOU SEE, OR OR LOTS RESIDENTIAL LOTS WE SHOULD SAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALL BUILT, HE OWNS ONE OF THEM AND HE DOES PLAN TO PUT A HOUSE THERE.
SO, UM, THIS IS VERY SHORT STREETS, ABOUT 800 SQUARE FEET,
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I MEAN 800 FEET, THE LENGTH OF THE STREET.AND IT DEAD ENDS, LET'S BE CLEAR, IT DEAD ENDS AND IT ALSO DEAD ENDS INTO THE WATER TOWER THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.
AND SO THERE'S NEVER GOING TO REALLY BE A HIGH, UM, TRAFFIC VOLUME ON THAT STREET.
THAT STREET ROTHWELL IS POSITIONED BETWEEN, AS YOU KNOW, FM 19, UH, 10 92, WHICH YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, MURPHY ROAD AND INDEPENDENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT IT'S JUST OFF OF FIFTH STREET.
AND SO DESPITE THE TRAFFIC COMING IN FOR THE TWO, TWO CHURCHES, UH, THE INDIAN, UH, CALVARY CHURCH THAT THEY MENTIONED EARLIER, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER CHURCH THAT FACES INDEPENDENCE DESPITE THAT, THOSE, THE TRAFFIC FROM THOSE CHURCHES ARE NOT REALLY GONNA BE COMING DOWN THAT STREET BECAUSE IT'S NOT A THROUGH STREET.
THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO GET THROUGH.
THAT STREET DOES HAVE A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF STREETS THAT WOULD, UH, CREATE A RESERVE.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A HIGH VOLUME AT THIS LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S MAINLY TO HOUSE THEM ITEMS THAT THEY'RE SELLING AND THEY'RE GOING TO USE A PORTION OF THE SPACE TO PACKAGE IT AND SHIP THEM OUT.
AND IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, A FEW TRIPS, UH, GOING IN AND OUT OF THERE.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD TRIGGER A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THERE'S JUST NOT THAT TYPE OF, UH, VOLUME IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE CREATED AS A RESULT OF THIS.
SO AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, YES, IT'S SURROUNDED BY, YOU KNOW, L C TWO AND LC THREE.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU, THAT PICTURE WAS TAKEN A LONG TIME AGO.
IF I HAD A CHILD, I WOULD BE HIGHLY CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THEY COULD BE OUT THERE.
THERE'S TONS OF TREES AND IT'S HIGH BRUSH AND IT'S JUST NOT DEVELOPED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CHURCH ON THE CORNER, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST IN THIS PICTURE, BUT IT EXISTS IN REAL LIFE.
AND SO THE OWNER IS GOING TO BEAUTIFY THE AREA.
HE'S GOING TO PUT LIGHTS UP, HE'S GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, INCLUDING LANDSCAPING.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THE PICTURES THAT WE TOOK OF THAT AREA.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE NO PERMITS WILL BE GIVEN OUT IF THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
AND WE DESIRE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE HE'S A MEMBER OF THE CITY WHO APPRECIATES THE CITY AND ALL THAT IT OFFERS.
AND HE'S TRYING TO ADD TO THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE CITY AS WELL.
AND SO WE REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER GRANTING HIM THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HIS BUSINESS THERE AND HAVE A RESIDENCE A FEW DOORS DOWN IN THE SAME AREA TO BEAUTIFY THE AREA TO PROVIDE LIGHTING, TO CLEAN IT UP.
'CAUSE THESE, YOU COULD SEE THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH OUT THERE AND EVERYTHING IS IN BUILT OUT THERE, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY BUSINESSES AND OTHER THINGS AROUND THERE THAT ACTUALLY HIS, WHAT HE'S PUTTING THERE REALLY KIND OF SUPPORTS WHAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE.
AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR REQUEST TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT TONIGHT.
OH, THE, IF YOU PUT A WAREHOUSE NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL MM-HMM.
IT'S STORED THERE AND WHETHER IT'S SPRINKLER OR NOT ENGINEERING WITH, AND THEN THE DRAINAGE, UH, LIKE THE ENGINEER MENTIONED IS GONNA HAVE TO BE CONTAINED PROBABLY INSIDE YOUR, ON THE SITE FOOTPRINT.
SO I WAS HIRED BY AN ENGINEERING COMPANY.
AND THE ENGINEERS ARE WELL AWARE.
I WAS HIRED BY THE ENGINEERING COMPANY, UH, TO DO THIS.
AND THEY HAVE, UH, VARIOUS PLANS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH.
SO I'M NOT A QUALIFIED ENGINEER, ALTHOUGH MY FATHER WAS
AND SO I DO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THEY CAN, UH, PROVIDE TO THE OWNER IN TERMS OF HOW THEY WANNA HANDLE IT.
BUT AGAIN, A PERMIT WILL NOT BE ISSUED UNLESS THEY CAN PROVE THAT THEY'VE DONE THE CALCULATIONS AND THEY CAN PROPERLY MITIGATE SO THAT THE RESIDENTS AROUND THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SAFE IN THEIR HOMES AND WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.
INCLUDING THOSE SPRINKLERS AND FIREWALLS.
COMMERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
SO IT SEEMS, SO THIS IS, UH, JUST A ZONING CASE.
THEY STILL HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE US FOR A PLATT AND THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO PROVIDE A PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE PLAN, I'M ASSUMING.
UM, WE, WE WILL REQUEST, UH, INITIAL DRAINAGE, INITIAL DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS.
HOWEVER, DUE TO RECENT RULE CHANGES, UM, WE CANNOT REQUIRE THEM.
AND THE, UH, LACK OF, UH, DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS
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OR TRANS UH, TRAFFIC CALCULATIONS, UH, CANNOT BE A BASIS OF, UM, REJECTION OF A PLAT AS I UNDERSTAND IT.IS THAT CORRECT, JOE? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, ALSO ON, JUST BECAUSE I DID MENTION A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UH, WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC FOR THIS, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE.
SO THAT WASN'T, SO I WAS HIRED TO DO THE PLAT AND I TOLD THEM THAT BEFORE YOU CAN PLAT THIS PROPERTY, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO A ZONE CHANGE FIRST.
SO EVEN IF THE OWNER CAME BACK, DECIDED HE WANTED TO DO RESIDENTIAL, GUESS WHAT, HE'D STILL NEED TO DO A ZONE CHANGE.
BUT HIS DESIRE IS TO DO THE PROJECT THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY HOPING, UH, THAT YOU CAN DO THAT.
AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SUBMITTING A CONCEPTUAL DRAINAGE PLAN BEFORE SUBMITTING THE PLAT BECAUSE I KNOW, UM, WHEN I'M WORKING ON A PROJECT THAT IS IN THE FLOOD ZONE, WE GET AN APPROVED DRAINAGE PLAN FIRST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE CAPTURED ALL THE ISSUES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE THERE.
SO WE'D BE GLAD TO SUBMIT A, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UH, PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THE PLATT, BECAUSE IT WILL CERTAINLY MAKE THE PLATTING PROCESS GO FASTER OR BETTER, RATHER, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S WHAT OWNERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MOST.
HOW IS THIS IMPACT DRAINAGE? SO WE ARE READY FOR THAT.
WELL, WHAT I WAS LEADING TO WAS EVEN THEN, THEY STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT CONSTRUCTION PLANS TO SHOW HOW THE DRAINAGE WILL BE HANDLED ON SITE.
SO THIS IS JUST STRICTLY FOR THE ZONING TO SEE IF THIS AREA IS GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF THEY RUN INTO ANY SITUATIONS WHERE THEY CAN'T DEVELOP THE SITE, THAT WOULD BE FURTHER DOWN THE LINE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
SO THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, MY, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND THAT'S HELPFUL FOR ME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, OH, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING? AYE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION, UM, STAFF REPORT? SO, QUESTION.
SO, UM, WE WOULD BE, THE, THE MOTION THAT WILL BE MADE IS TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORT OF A NEGATIVE RE RECOMMENDATION.
MEANING IF A COMMISSIONER VOTES YES FOR THAT, THEY ARE AGREEING WITH STAFF IF THEY VOTE NO, THEY'RE DISAGREEING WITH STAFF.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
I MOVE THAT WE CONSIDER A FINAL REPORT ON ITEM EIGHT A ONE AS WRITTEN, YOUR HONOR, AS WRITTEN.
I MOVE THAT WE CONSIDER A FINAL REPORT FOR ITEM EIGHT A ONE.
SO THAT IS A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THE NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF.
SO YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE TEAM THAT'S PRESENTED.
YOU'RE CONSIDERED IN FAVOR OF THAT? NO, THERE'S A, THERE'S A CLARIFICATION.
SO THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THIS APPLICATION.
THAT IS WHAT YOU, IF THAT IS WHAT YOU, SO ONE, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS COULD MAKE A MOTION TO SEND, TO MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO PROVE THIS APPLICATION.
IT'S GONNA GO UP TO CITY COUNCIL AS WRITTEN, BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN MAKE A VOTE.
YOU CAN CALL A, A MOTION AND VOTE TO MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS APPLICATION.
UH, AND JOE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, 'CAUSE ON THE REPORT THEY CAN MAKE A MO SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THE REPORT IS A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? THEY CAN VOTE TO ACCEPT THAT OR NOT ACCEPT IT.
NOT ACCEPT IT, AND THEN THEY CAN VOTE TO MODIFY.
THAT'S WHERE I'M THE RE THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION THAT GOES FORWARD TO COUNSEL IF THEY DESIRE TO.
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THAT'S TRUE.SO I'M NOT, NOW I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE MOTION.
SO YOU'RE, I'LL I'LL JUST USE MYSELF.
UM, MY, MY INTENT IS TO MOVE THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I WOULD SAY JUST THAT.
SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND, AND LEGAL AND STAFF, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO VOTE THIS ONE DOWN BECAUSE WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED IS A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE, MAKE THE MOTION AND I WOULD VOTE ACCORDING TO MY EARLIER COMMENTS.
AND IF THE MOTION DID NOT CARRY, WE WOULD THEN CREATE A NEW MOTION TO MOVE THIS FINAL ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
SO I THINK, I THINK, ALRIGHT, I'M WRONG IF, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG.
I'M THE ONLY ONE TALKING RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THE WAY THAT YOU ACCOMPLISH THAT IS TO MAKE A MOTION TO MODIFY STAFF REPORT TO REFLECT A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
SEND THAT UP TO, OKAY, SO A QUESTION, HOW DO WE, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO MODIFY A STAFF REPORT.
WELL, I WAS, I WAS GONNA MENTION, SO IT SAYS TO CONSIDER A FINAL REPORT.
SO WE'RE CONSIDERING THE FINAL REPORT AND WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION BY CONSIDERING THE REPORT THAT WAS MADE.
SO CONSIDERING THAT REPORT, WHAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION? RIGHT? WHAT WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED FROM STAFF IS A PRELIMINARY REPORT MM-HMM.
AND WHAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO IS TO FORWARD A FINAL REPORT.
SO YOU'RE VOTING ON WHAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN YOUR FINAL REPORT.
BUT YOU'RE, YOUR NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION STILL STAYS IN PLACE FROM A STAFF POINT OF VIEW, CORRECT? RIGHT.
THE STAFF SAYING THAT THEY HAVE A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE HAVE OUR RECOMMENDATION.
I'M HAPPY TO LET MY, ANY ONE OF MY COMMISSIONERS MAKE IT CORRECTLY IF I'VE ALREADY LET US DOWN THIS BAD RABBIT HOLE.
NO, I'M, SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION TO SEND TO CITY COUNCIL? THIS APPLICATION IS GETTING A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AND A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SENDING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, THIS APPLICATION.
THANKS Y'ALL FOR HANGING WITH ME ON THAT ROBERT'S RULES.
[b. ZONING MAP AMENDMENT - SIENNA MUD NO. 2]
WE ARE GOING TO ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR SIENNA MUD NUMBER TWO.I'M GONNA PRESENT THIS TONIGHT.
UM, AS A REMINDER FOR THE COMMISSIONER AND FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, ALL OF THE LAND AREA CONTAINED IN SIMA TWO.
AND THERE'S, UM, A LOCATION MAP, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE THE STREETS, BUT, UH, GENERALLY SIENNA, UM, PARKWAY IS THE MAIN STREET THAT, UH, RUNS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF SIENNA MUD TWO, UM, WITH WATERS LAKE BOULEVARD, UM, AND SCANLAN TRACE, UM, THAT INTERSECTS, UH, UH, PORTIONS OF SIENNA PARKWAY.
AND SO THIS AREA WAS ANNEXED OFFICIALLY BY THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY ON AUGUST 21ST.
UM, AND SO JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE COMMISSIONER TO THE PUBLIC, UM, BECAUSE MISSOURI CITY HAS IMPLEMENTED ZONING, UM, EVERY PIECE OF LAND THAT IS WITHIN THE INCORPORATED BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY HAS AN ASSOCIATED ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
SO WHEN NEW LAND IS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, REGARDLESS OF IF IT'S DEVELOPED OR NOT, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY CLASSIFIED AS SUBURBAN DISTRICT.
AND SO THAT'S CONSIDERED A TEMPORARY, UH, ZONING UNTIL IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PERMANENT ZONING.
AND SO THAT'S, UH, THE PURPOSE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT, UM, IS TO, UH, INSTITUTE PERMANENT ZONING FOR ALL OF THAT LAND, NEWLY ANNEXED.
CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? MM-HMM.
SO ZONING WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY IN 1981.
UM, AND AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER, I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE 1981.
UM, ORIGINAL, UM, ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO THE AREA THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING, SIENNA, UM, TU, UM, AS WELL AS
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OTHER PORTIONS OF SIENNA, UM, ARE ALL PART OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT, UH, CITY OF MISSOURI CITY, UM, AND, UH, DEVELOPERS OF THE SIENNA MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY ENTERED INTO, UM, EFFECTIVE IN 1996.SO THIS IS A LONG TIME, UM, OF KIND OF PLANNING, UM, LAYING OUT, UH, WHAT THE LAND USES ARE, UH, FOR THOSE AREAS, UM, AND LAYING OUT AN AGREEABLE, UM, WAY FOR, UH, THOSE AREAS TO DEVELOP.
UM, SO WHAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS ARE, UH, THE LAND USE PLAN, UM, THAT WERE ADOPTED, UM, ALONG WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, THE LAND USE PLAN, UH, IDENTIFIED AREAS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, PRIMARILY, UM, AND THEN OTHER ASSOCIATED USES TO SUPPORT, UH, THE C N M MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.
SO THIS IS AN IMAGE I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO READ ON THE SCREEN.
UM, WE DO HAVE THIS ELECTRONICALLY AND THE COLORS MAKE IT A LOT EASIER TO KIND OF INTERPRET.
UM, THIS WAS, UH, THE LAND USE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE ORIGINAL SIENNA PLANTATION, UH, UH, JOINT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE AREA WITHIN THE DOTTED LINE IS, UH, WHAT CONSISTED OF SIMA TWO AT THAT TIME.
UM, SO IT'S NOT IN ITS FINAL CONFIGURATION 'CAUSE LAND WAS, UM, ADDED AS THE AGREEMENT WAS AMENDED THROUGH THE YEARS.
UM, THE ORANGE AREA REPRESENTS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SIMA TWO AREA, UM, UH, AS FAR BACK AS THE NINETIES, UH, EIGHTIES, UH, WAS PLANNED FOR PRIMARILY TO BE, UM, A COMBINATION OF, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ELECTRONICALLY, YOU'LL SEE A SCHOOL SITE.
UM, THERE WAS ALWAYS A SCHOOL SITE, UH, PLANNED IN THAT AREA.
UM, IT'S NOT IN THE LOCATION THAT IT EVENTUALLY DEVELOPED IN.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT PLANNING, UH, GOING ABOUT IN THE LAND USE PLAN.
THIS ONE'S NOT AS EASY TO READ ON THE SCREEN.
SO, UH, IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LEGIBLE IF YOU LOOK AT IT ELECTRONICALLY.
UM, 'CAUSE YOU CAN KIND OF ZOOM IN AND, UH, SOME OF THE LEGIBILITY IS THERE.
UM, BUT THIS AGAIN, JUST SHOWS ANOTHER ITERATION, UH, THE, UH, AREA IN THE, THE RED, UH, BOX.
IT'S A SIEN MA TWO, A GENERAL AREA, AND YOU CAN START TO SEE MORE OF THAT LAND BEING ADDED.
UM, AND THIS WAS BY THE AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT, UH, APPROVED IN 1999.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, SIEN MA TWO AS, UH, IT EXISTS TODAY.
UH, THE LAST ITERATION OF THAT LAND USE PLAN IN THE AGREEMENT, UH, WAS DONE IN 2000.
AND AGAIN, NOT AS PRETTY AS THE 1999 OR 1996.
UM, BUT THERE IS SOME LEGIBILITY IF YOU LOOK AT IT, UM, ONLINE, AND YOU CAN KIND OF MAKE OUT, UM, WHERE SOME OF THE LAND USES THAT EXIST TODAY ARE LOCATED ON THIS LAND USE PLANT.
SO BRINGING IT FORWARD TO TODAY, NOW THAT, UH, THIS AREA IS OFFICIALLY ANNEXED INTO MISSOURI CITY, UM, WHAT, UH, PLANNING STAFF HAS LOOKED AT IS, UH, WHAT THE EXISTING CITY ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, HOW IT MATCHES, UH, WITH, UH, THE LAND USE PLANS, UH, THAT WERE, UH, DONE OVER TIME, UM, AS WELL AS SUBDIVISION PLATS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, RECORDED, UM, UH, IN THAT AREA AS WELL AS HOW THOSE PROPERTIES ARE BEING USED TODAY, OR AT LEAST HOW WE UNDERSTAND THEM TO BE USED TODAY.
SO THIS MAP, UH, THE COLORATION OF THIS MAP IS, UH, HOW, UH, AREAS WERE, UH, THE SECTIONS WERE PLATTED, UH, WITHIN SIMA TWO.
AND, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO PRESENT A PERMANENT ZONING BASED ON THOSE PLATT BOUNDARIES.
UM, BECAUSE AS THE COMMISSION, UH, KNOWS THE ZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND.
UM, SO THE ZONING DESIGNATION IS GONNA BE ON, UH, THE LAND OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A DESCRIPTION FOR THAT PROPERTY, UM, IN ORDER FOR, UH, THE ZONING TO BE APPLIED.
UM, SO THOSE COLOR ITERATIONS ARE VARIOUS SECTIONS OF, UH, DIFFERENT VILLAGES WITHIN CM SIENNA THAT WERE PLATTED OVER TIME.
UM, AND THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDED ZONING, UM, IS DONE BASED ON THOSE, THOSE SECTIONS.
AND I WILL ADD THAT THE COMMISSION HAS, UM, A PRINTED VERSION OF THE REPORT, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU.
PLEASE DO NOT BE ALARMED AT THAT.
A LOT OF IT
THAT SHOWS, UH, WHAT THE PROPOSED ZONING IS, UM, BASED ON EACH OF, UH, THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, AND BY SECTIONS.
SO WHEN WE DO ZONING, UH, ZONING SHOULD BE, ZONING IS A TOOL, A LAND USE TOOL.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH, UH, THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THE CITY'S 2017 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, DOES SPEAK TO, UM, ESSENTIALLY OUR GOALS AND POLICIES, UM, LOOKING TOWARDS, UH, VARIOUS PORTIONS OF SIENNA, UH, BEING, UM, ANNEXED INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT'S CONTAINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, FOLLOWS THE LAND USE PLANS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND IDENTIFIES PORTIONS OF THIS AREA LARGELY FOR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, UH, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT,
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UH, THAT WE SEE OUT THERE.COMMUNITY FACILITIES FOR, UM, THE, UH, SCHOOL SITE THAT'S OUT THERE, UM, AND FOR OTHER RECREATIONAL FACILITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
AND THEN, UH, LOTS OF PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S GOLF COURSES AND OTHER, UM, PARKS, AMENITIES, UH, WITHIN THE AREA.
SO THE PROPOSED PERMANENT ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, THAT ARE, ARE BEING PROPOSED TO YOU ALL TONIGHT, UM, INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE SUBURBAN DISTRICT THAT ALL OF THE LAND IS CURRENTLY ZONED OF AS OF AUGUST 21ST, UM, IS TEMPORARY.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING CERTAIN, UH, PARTS, UM, OF THOSE AREA BE PERMANENTLY ZONED, UM, SUBURBAN DISTRICT, UM, BASED ON THEIR USE AND, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE SUBURBAN DISTRICT ZONE.
UH, THE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ARE THE R ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THE R TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, R FOUR PATIO CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, L C L, LOCAL COMMERCIAL OFFICE DISTRICT, AND CF COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
SO I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH THAT REALLY QUICKLY.
UM, UH, IN YOUR REPORT, YOU HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN, UM, AGAIN, BY SUBDIVISIONS, UH, THAT ARE PROPOSED, UH, FOR THE SUBURBAN DISTRICT.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, MOST ALL OF THE UTILITY INSTALLATIONS, THE LEVY, UM, THAT WERE PLOTTED IN PIECES, UM, AS PART OF THOSE, UH, DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF CIENA, UM, AREAS THAT ARE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY PUBLIC ENTITIES.
SO YOU HAVE THE LID THAT OWNS LAND, UH, WITHIN THE AREAS.
YOU HAVE, UH, THE CITY, UH, THAT OWNS LAND, UH, WITHIN THOSE AREAS, UM, LARGELY THAT ARE USED FOR DRAINAGE, UH, LEVY AND UTILITY PURPOSES.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS, IS TO PERMANENTLY ZONE, UM, THOSE AREAS AS SSD SUBURBAN DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN THAT LITTLE PARAGRAPH UNDER THERE, UM, IS, UH, WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UH, ZONING THOSE AREAS.
UM, AND BASICALLY THE SUBURBAN DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR, UM, INSTALLATIONS OWNED AND OPERATED BY A PUBLIC ENTITY, UM, WHERE THOSE INSTALLATIONS ARE NECESSARY TO PROVIDE UTILITY SERVICE, EITHER THROUGH AN AREA OR IN SUPPORT OF THAT AREA.
UM, WHICH ALL OF THESE, UM, THEY'RE PLATTED RESERVES, UM, ON THE DIFF THE VARIOUS SUBDIVISION PLATTS, UM, THAT ARE LISTED.
ALL OF THESE WOULD SUP, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT, UM, DEVELOPMENT EITHER IN MUD TWO OR SURROUNDING, UH, THE MUD TWO AREA.
THIS IS ONE AREA, UM, THAT, UH, STAFF WANTS TO POINT OTHER COMMISSION'S ATTENTION TO.
AND THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF SCANLON TRACE, SCANLON TRACE AND, UH, SIENNA PARKWAY.
UM, PARTICULARLY THE AREA, UM, THAT'S OUTLINED IN, UH, YELLOW.
UM, SO AT THAT INTERSECTION, UH, UH, THERE IS A, UH, REC CENTER, UH, A SWIMMING POOL, UH, UH, FACILITY, AND A, UM, O OFFICE BUILDING.
UM, ALL OF THAT LAND WAS PLATTED ON, UH, THE AMENDING REPL OF SIENNA STATE BANK VILLAGE, UH, SECTION ONE AS ONE RESERVE.
AND AT THE TIME IT WAS PLATTED.
IT WAS PLATTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF LANDSCAPING DETENTION, UM, UH, USE.
UM, IT HAS SINCE BEEN SUBDIVIDED AND IT'S NOW OWNED BY, UM, AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
THE ASSOCIATION, SIENNA ASSOCIATIONS, OWNS TWO PIECES OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AND THEN ANOTHER ENTITY OWNS THE THIRD.
UM, AND SO, UH, THEY'RE USING, UM, UH, PORTIONS OF IT FOR DIFFERENT, UH, PURPOSES.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THIS PORTION THAT'S OUTLINED IN YELLOW, UM, BE ZONED SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT.
'CAUSE IT IS STILL LARGELY BEING USED FOR DRAINAGE, UM, UH, LANDSCAPING PURPOSES.
IT IS OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION.
UM, BUT, AND WE HAVE A MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION, UM, WITH THE DEEDED, UM, FOR, UM, THAT AREA AS WELL.
BUT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, SO IT'LL BE A RESERVE THAT HAS SPLIT ZONING, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT USES, UH, THAT ARE, UH, CURRENTLY BEING USED THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR.
GRACE IS TELLING ME IT'S A CORRECTION.
I THINK I DID NOT SAY STATE BANK TRACE.
SO WE'LL CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
UM, THERE IS A WATER PLANT SITE THAT WAS, UH, PLOTTED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
UM, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ZONE THAT AREA PERMANENTLY.
IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY CURRENTLY, OR NO, IT'S OWNED BY, UH, UH, MUD ONE, UM, CURRENTLY.
UM, BUT IT IS AN ABOVEGROUND UTILITY.
UM, AND TYPICALLY NEW ABOVE GROUND UTILITIES UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS REQUIRE SUV SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING, UH, THIS PROPERTY TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UM, BECAUSE, UH, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, MAJOR MODIFICATIONS OR ALTERATIONS ARE MADE AFTER IT'S ZONED, UM, IT MAY REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL ZONING, UH, TO BRING THAT INTO, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS.
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DISTRICT, UM, FOR THE PURPOSE THAT IS BEING USED TODAY IS THE CLOSEST, UH, DISTRICT THAT IT COULD BE SITUATED WITH.THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE JUST, UM, ABOVE THE TOP PIECE THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE YELLOW, UM, THAT WAS PLOTTED AS A COMMERCIAL RESERVE.
UM, WE BELIEVE IT IS OWNED BY A UTILITY, UM, AND THAT IT IS STILL BEING USED FOR A UTILITY PURPOSE AND NOT A COMMERCIAL PURPOSE.
UM, AND SO FOR THAT REASON, UH, WE ARE, UH, KEEPING THAT WITHIN THE PERMANENT SD UH, SUBURBAN DISTRICT ZONING, UH, CLASSIFICATION.
THE R ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IS, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, UH, CONTAINED WITHIN, UH, SIENNA MUD TWO.
UM, ALL OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS ARE LISTED IN THE REPORT, UH, BY BLOCKS AND LOT NUMBER.
UM, THE QUALIFYING, THERE ARE LOTS THAT ARE MOST CONSISTENT WITH MINIMUM LOT WIDTHS OF AT LEAST 65 FEET, UM, WITH MINIMUM SQUARE FEET OF AT LEAST 9,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE GOAL IS, IS NOT TO MAKE, UM, ANY EXISTING LOT NONCONFORMING.
UM, SO TRYING TO MATCH, UM, HOW THOSE LOTS WERE SUBDIVIDED, PLATTED AND DEVELOPED, UM, AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE WITH, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONE, UM, THAT'S SIMILAR TO IT.
UM, SO THERE'S 23 SUB SUBDIVISION SECTIONS, UH, THAT ARE LISTED, UM, PROPOSED FOR THIS ZONING.
THE R TWO SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
THERE ARE 15 SUBDIVISION SECTIONS, UM, THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS ZONING.
UH, THESE ARE LARGER, UM, LOTS, UM, OR SMALLER LOTS.
WE'RE GOING, I'M GOING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
UM, SMALLER LOTS ARE 15, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, MEET, UH, THIS QUALIFICATION, UM, HAVING MINIMUM LOT WIDTHS OF 50 FEET AND MINIMUM LOTS SQUARE FEET OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
R FOUR PATIO CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL.
UM, WE HAVE TWO SUBDIVISION SECTIONS, UH, THAT WERE PLATTED WITH ZERO FOOT LOT LINES, ZERO FOOT SETBACKS.
UM, THE R FOUR PATIO CLUSTER DISTRICT IS THE CITY'S EXISTING DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALLOW, UM, FOR ZERO FOOT LOTS.
UM, BUT THE R FOUR DISTRICT, UM, ALLOWS FOR SMALLER, UM, SQUARE FEET, SMALLER WIDTH, UM, OF LOTS, MOST ALL OF, UM, AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU, UH, TWO OF THE SECTIONS, UH, THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THIS.
THEY'RE MOSTLY LARGER, UM, LOTS SUBDIVISIONS, UM, BEING 70 FEET, UM, IN WIDTH.
UM, BUT THEY WERE, UM, PLATTED WITH ZERO FOOT, UH, SETBACKS.
SO THE FIRST ONE, UH, IS SIENNA VILLAGE OF WATERS LAKE SECTION EIGHT.
AND THIS IS A SNAPSHOT WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE, THE FOOTPRINTS, UM, OF THE BUILDINGS.
AND YOU SEE IT'S NOT EXACT, UM, BUT YOU SEE HOW CLOSE, UH, THOSE BUILDINGS ARE, UH, TO THOSE SIDE PROPERTY LINES.
UM, THAT REPRESENTS THE ZERO FOOT, UH, SETBACKS.
UM, THAT GIVES THEM, UH, WHAT THEIR, UH, BUILDING LINES ARE.
UM, SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO REDEVELOP, UM, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO REDEVELOP WITH THOSE ZERO FOOT LINES.
UM, SO THE CLOSEST THAT IT MATCHES WITH THE CITY'S EXISTING, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS IS THAT R FOUR DISTRICT.
UM, SO THIS ONE, UM, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY 'CAUSE IT'S NOT TYPICALLY WHAT WE WOULD SEE, UM, INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS FOR A ZERO FOOT, UM, SETBACK.
UM, BUT IN ORDER TO NOT MAKE THESE, UH, NON-CONFORMING, THAT'S THE BEST FITTING, UH, DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE.
ANOTHER ONE IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF SIENNA PARKWAY, SIENNA VILLAGE OF SHIPMENTS, LANDING SECTION SIX, UM, SMALLER LOTS THAN, UH, THE PREVIOUS SECTION.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, IN SOME OF THOSE INSTANCES ON SOME OF THOSE LOTS, UM, HOW CLOSELY, UH, THEY, UM, ARE, UH, TO, UH, THOSE PROPERTY LINES.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT THE SUBDIVISION MAP AS THE BASIS, UM, AND MOST ALL OF THOSE, UH, LOTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO A ZERO FOOT, UM, SETBACKS ON ONE, UH, SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO THESE AREAS, UH, WOULD, UM, UH, MATCH CLOSEST TO THE R FOUR DISTRICT.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LOTS, UM, AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF THE STREETS.
UM, AND SO, UM, WHERE THOSE STREETS INTERSECT WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC, UM, TYPICALLY IF THEY WERE TO DEVELOP TODAY, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO BE SET BACK AT LEAST 10 FEET, UM, FROM THE STREET PROP, THE STREETSIDE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, THAT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE THE CASE, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION.
UM, SO IN THIS CASE, WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL VARIANCE, REQUEST FOR VARIANCE, UM, FOR SOME OF THOSE LOTS, UM, TO, UH, ENSURE THAT HOW IT'S DEVELOPED, UM, IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S,
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UH, RULES AND REGULATIONS.ARE THERE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT.
WHAT DID, WHAT'S THE GOLF COURSE BEING ZONED TWO? 'CAUSE THE, SO THE GOLF COURSE IS GONNA COME UP WITH THE CF COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
UH, THE OTHER ONE WAS, SO WHEN YOU WENT TO THE R FOURS, THE FIRST MAP YOU SHOWED WAS A GATED COMMUNITY MM-HMM.
SO DOES CHANGING THE ZONING TO AN R FOUR, DOES THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES FOR ANY REASON GOING FORWARD? SO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S GONNA BE SEPARATE, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE ZONING AT THIS POINT IS NOT GONNA CHANGE HOW THE PROPERTIES ARE BEING USED TODAY.
UM, WHAT THE ZONING DISTRICT DOES IS, YOU KNOW, ANY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS, ANY CHANGES, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, TO COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, REDO OF A PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING, UM, DESIGNATION FOR IT.
SO IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY CHANGE BECAUSE THE, THEY'RE BEING USED AS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL TODAY, THE LOT SIZES ARE REMAINING THE SAME.
THE GATED COMMUNITY WOULD REMAIN THE SAME.
UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC STREETS OR, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE STREETS, THE PUBLIC STREETS, IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANY OF THAT.
AND THE OTHER THING IS OF, OF THE, UH, HOW MANY VACANT LOTS ARE THERE IN MUD TWO THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED? MOST, MOST OF THE PEOPLE BEING IMPACTED ARE EXISTING HOMES.
HOW MANY VACANT LOTS ARE THERE? YEAH, THE, THE MAJORITY, LARGE MAJORITY IS FULLY DEVELOPED.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TALKING, OR AT LEAST ANTICIPATING LOOKING AT NEW CONSTRUCTION, UM, OCCURRING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I WAS CURIOUS ON THE PERMANENT SD, DOES THAT MEAN THAT AT ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE THAT IT CAN'T BE RELA OR, UH, REZONED INTO SOMETHING ELSE? IT CAN, IT CAN ALWAYS, UM, BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING.
UM, IT'S JUST THAT IT WOULDN'T, IT, IT WOULD BE THE ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SO, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE AN AMEND AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THAT ZONING.
HOW LONG DID THIS TAKE YOU? HOW LONG DID THIS TAKE
HE'S BEEN OUT THERE DRIVING THE STREETS, TAKING A LOOK AT THINGS.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN, IT'S, IT'S A PROCESS
UM, YOU KNOW, APPLYING PERMANENT ZONING IS NOT A QUICK TASK.
SO, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME COMMERCIALLY, UH, USED PROPERTIES OUT THERE.
UM, AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE L C O LOCAL COMMERCIAL OFFICE DISTRICT, WHICH PROVIDES SOME LIMITATIONS, UM, SO THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, UM, SOMETHING THAT CAN TRANSITION INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, GENERAL RETAIL, YOU KNOW, OR GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES THAT MAY NOT BE CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THE CHARACTER.
THOSE AREAS INCLUDE, AGAIN, THAT SAME CORNER TRACK, UM, AT, UH, UH, STEEPBANK, STEEPBANK TRACE, AND, UH, SIENNA PARKWAY, WHERE THAT PORTION, UM, OUTLINED IN THE YELLOW HAS BEEN SOLD TO ANOTHER ENTITY.
UM, AND SO DIFFERENT OFFICE USES COUNSELING SERVICES, UM, HAVE UTILIZED IT.
I THINK IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING, UM, AT THAT INTERSECTION.
IT USED TO BE, UM, PART OF THE RECREATIONAL, UM, FACILITY FOR SIENNA BEFORE, UM, MORE OF SIENNA DEVELOPED OUT.
UM, AND SO THAT IS NOW BEING USED FOR MORE OF A COMMERCIAL PURPOSE.
UM, AND SO FOR ZONING, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THE L C O, UM, OFFICE, UH, DISTRICT.
ANOTHER AREA IN THAT YELLOW MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE, UM, BUT THERE'S A DAYCARE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UM, THE, UH, FORT BEND I S D SCHOOL.
UM, AND THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT PROPERTY, UH, IS TO ZONE THAT ALSO AS L C O, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR THE DAYCARE USE TO CONTINUE.
UM, SIMILAR TO THE ZERO FOOT, UH, SETBACKS, YOU CAN SEE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING OF THE DAYCARE.
UM, IT MAY NOT MEET, UM, THE MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS OF THE L C L DISTRICTS OR ANY OF OUR, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, UM, BECAUSE IT DOES REQUIRE 30 FEET DISTANCE, UM, BETWEEN PROPERTY LINES AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
UM, SO THAT AGAIN, MAY BE A SITUATION WHERE, UH, VARIANCES MAY NEED TO BE SOUGHT, UM, TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT EXISTS, UH, TO BE IN CONFORMANCE.
UM, BUT THE RECOMMENDED ZONING IS L C O, UH, TO ALLOW FOR THE DAYCARE USE TO CONTINUE AND FOR THAT NOT TO CONVERT INTO A MORE, UH, RETAIL, UH, COMMERCIAL USE, WHICH IS NOT THE INTENT, UM, OF THAT AREA.
AND THEN FINALLY IS COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
AND SO THESE ARE, UM, FOR AREAS THAT ARE LARGELY, UH, THE PARK SPACES, THE LANDSCAPE SPACES AND INCLUDES THE GOLF COURSE, UM, THERE'S PORTIONS,
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UM, OF THE GOLF COURSE THAT WERE INCLUDED IN SOME OF THE SUBDIVISION SECTIONS.UM, AND SO THE CF, UH, COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT IS PROPOSED, UM, FOR THOSE AREAS.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, BACK INTO THIS AREA, THIS IS THE, UH, SIENNA STATE BANK POOL.
UM, AND SO THIS IS OWNED AND MANAGED BY THE ASSOCIATIONS.
AND SO THE RECOMMENDED ZONING FOR THAT IS COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
AND THEN CAMP SIENNA, UM, IS ALSO, UH, IN THIS AREA.
THERE'S AN AMPHITHEATER, A SWIMMING POOL, UM, ALL KINDS OF AMENITIES.
UM, WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ASSOCIATION ABOUT, UM, HOW THEY WOULD CLASSIFY THOSE EVENTS AND BE ABLE TO, UH, CONTINUE THE, UH, EVENTS THAT THEY DO, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UM, INCLUDING HAVING LIKE MOBILE FOOD UNITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO THE RECOMMENDED ZONING IS, IS COMMUNITY FACILITIES, UM, TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO CONTINUE.
AND THAT, UH, SHOULD ALSO, UH, GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO, UH, PULL PERMITS FOR, UM, THE FOOD TRUCKS, UM, OR THE FOOD TRUCK VENDORS BEING ABLE TO PULL PERMITS, UM, FOR THOSE EVENTS UNDER, UH, THAT ZONING AND BEING MANAGED BY, UH, THE ASSOCIATIONS.
SO JUST A QUICK NOTE ON PUBLIC NOTICE.
UM, UH, NOTICE WAS MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND WHEN YOU ASKED HOW LONG, UM, THIS HAS TAKEN US, HOW MANY NOTICES WENT OUT, 16,800 SOMETHING EIGHT.
UM, AND, UH, PUTTING THOSE PACKAGES TOGETHER WENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN SIENNA MUD TWO, AS WELL AS PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 250 FEET OF SIENNA MUD.
TWO, UM, NOTICED SIGNS WERE POSTED, UM, IN THE AREA, UM, FOR ABOUT A TWO WEEK PERIOD PRIOR TO THAT AUGUST 31ST THROUGH THE 15TH.
UM, PRIOR TO THIS, GOING TO CITY COUNCIL NOTICE WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER, THE FORT BEND INDEPENDENT, UM, PRIOR TO THAT, UM, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THIS IS SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, PROVIDED THE COMMISSION, UH, VOTES ON A FINAL REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION, UH, THIS WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, MONDAY, DECEMBER 4TH.
AND SO THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE ON THAT TONIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 1,687 1,687.
AND OF THOSE NOTICES, HOW MUCH FEAR CAME BACK TO YOU? I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THE QUESTION 'CAUSE I DO.
UM, SO I DO WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE WE DID, UH, RECEIVE SOME COMMENTS, UM, UH, PUTTING THE ZONING TOGETHER WITH THE TAX RATES AND, UH, POSSIBLE INCREASE IN TAXES.
UM, THE ZONING HAS NO BEARING AS THE COMMISSION KNOWS, UM, ON THE TAX RATE OR INCREASING, YOU KNOW, ANY TAXES.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, SEPARATED, UM, FROM THAT PROCESS.
SO, UM, WE DID GET, UM, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THAT.
STAFF DID FILL SOME, YOU KNOW, OF THOSE CALLS, UM, THOSE CALLS OF CONCERN.
UM, AND THOSE ARE NOT, UH, RELATED AT ALL.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WHAT GRACE MENTIONED IS WE DID RECEIVE THREE WRITTEN PROTESTS, UM, FROM THE TIME THAT THOSE NOTICES WENT OUT TO TODAY.
UM, SO THE COMMISSION HAS COPIES OF THAT AND THOSE WILL, UH, BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
AND ANY NOTICES THAT WE RECEIVE, ANY COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVE IN WRITTEN FORM, UM, WILL ALSO BE, UH, PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS.
AND SEEING THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, IS ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS? SEEING NONE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND PLEASE.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OPPOSED CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND SO YOU WANT US TO, UH, CONSIDER THIS AS A FINAL REPORT TO SEND THE CITY COUNCIL? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO DO JUST THAT? I MOVE SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO SEND THIS TO AS A FINAL REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YE YES.
SINCE YOU MADE THE MOTION ONE LAST, I JUST HAD A QUICK DISCUSSION POINT BEFORE WE WENT THROUGH.
SO THIS IS GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC, THERE'S NO MAP INCLUDED.
YEAH, I KNOW YOU THREW UP A MAP EARLIER, BUT IT ALSO HAD THE GOLF COURSE SHADED THE SAME COLOR AS THE LOTS, SO WILL BE A MAP PROVIDED.
AND SO MOVING FORWARD, IF, IF THE COMMISSION VOTES, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE ZONING, UH, DESIGNATIONS, THEN WE'LL POST A MAP, UM, SHOWING THE SECTIONS WITH THOSE ASSOCIATED ZONING DESIGNATIONS BECAUSE SOME OF THE SECTIONS ARE GONNA BE SPLIT.
SO LIKE SOME OF THE RESERVES ARE GONNA BE, UH, SHOWN
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AS SUBURBAN DISTRICT OR COMMUNITY FACILITIES.AND THEN THE LOTS WILL BE SHOWN AS VARIATIONS OF, OF THE SINGLE FAMILY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED? SO AS A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT FULL REPORT.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? I GUESS IT'S, MAY I ADJOURN? MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNMENT? AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU STAFF.