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IT IS SEVEN O'CLOCK.[1. CALL TO ORDER]
THE, UH, DECEMBER 13TH, 2023.PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER.
[3. READING OF MINUTES]
UH, READING IN THE MINUTES.WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
GO AHEAD AND CATCH YOUR VOTES PLEASE.
ITEM FOUR, COMMISSION REPORTS.
CHAIR OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANNA MOVE ON? SEEING
[a. Development Services]
NONE.WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO REPORT ON.
UM, UH, AS YOU KNOW, LAST MEETING WAS VERY, VERY SHORT, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD PLANNING STAFF AWAY AT THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE IN CORPUS.
UM, AND SO IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL CONFERENCE.
UM, WE, UH, GOT TO, UH, SUPPORT, UH, STORY RIDE, UH, NORI, UM, OUR PLANNER TWO, WHO WAS PART OF THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION LEADERSHIP COHORT.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE RECOGNIZED HER A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN SHE WAS SELECTED, UM, AS ONE OF A FEW IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND SHE REPRESENTED MISSOURI CITY VERY WELL.
UM, SO SHE WAS RECOGNIZED, UM, AND THEY, UH, PRESENTED, UM, IN A SESSION, UM, AT THE CONFERENCE.
SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HER EFFORTS, UM, AND HER WORK IN THERE.
AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO SHARE SNOW FEST.
AND, UH, WE HAD A, A FABULOUS TIME, UM, ON OUR FLOAT.
UM, WE HAD A GREAT TIME AND WE THINK OUR FLOAT WAS NUMBER ONE, BUT APPARENTLY
AND, UH, I KNOW THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, HAD A GREAT TIME, UM, ON THE FLOAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, UH, TO THE COMMISSION.
I HAD A COMMENT TO THAT REPORT, IF THAT'S OKAY.
AND I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING.
I, SO WE HAVE IN THE WORKS TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR, YEAH.
AT LEAST AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL OR ANY PUBLICATIONS ATE TO MAKING THAT.
I GUESS, UH, BRIAN, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION.
I COME TODAY TO REPORT A YOUR YOUR FOURTH QUARTER DEVELOPMENT REPORT.
SO FOR THE, UM, FOURTH QUARTER, EXCUSE THAT TYPO, THE, UM, WE HAD A LOT OF NEW, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN MISSOURI CITY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE BEVERLY WOODS, SOUTH SIENNA, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST DEVELOPMENTS, ACADIANA, UH, WHICH IS BY, UH, THE TOLL BROTHERS.
UH, THESE, UM, ACADIANA, UH, MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
UH, THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS 27 POINT 56, AND ALSO SIENNA SOUTH IS OVER, UH, 10,000 ACRES.
AND BEVERLY WOODS IS SEVEN POINT, UH, ZERO ONE ACRES, WHICH IS A GOOD SIZE SUBDIVISION.
THESE SUBDIVISIONS, UH, PLAY, UH, TREMENDOUSLY TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF MISSOURI CITY.
WITH THE POPULATION INCREASING THE POPULATION OF THE OVERALL CITY.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY BY DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACTIVITY, OUR ACTUAL, THAT ACTUALLY COMES TO THE COMMISSION OR COMES TO THE DEPARTMENT, AND, UH, DEALS WITH THIS COMMISSION, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT PLAT FOR THIS, UH, YEAR, FOR THIS YEAR TOTAL, WE HAD 88 PLATTS, UM, TOTAL FOR THIS YEAR.
AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES.
UH, I'M GONNA ACTUALLY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UH, ONE FOR PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES.
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FIRST, ALL I HAVE TO, UH, UH, EXPLAIN DURING THE PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE.IT IS NOT JUST DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE PLANNING DIVISION.
WE ALSO HAVE PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH OUR ENGINEERING TEAM, WE ALSO HAVE OUR PERMITS AND INSPECTION TEAM FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
WE HAVE NE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, FIRE PREVENTION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE ALL COME TOGETHER TO ADVISE THE DEVELOPER ON THE DIFF DIFFERENT POTENTIAL WAYS THAT HE CAN MANEUVER WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE, ENSURE THAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS SUCCESSFUL.
SO FOR THIS YEAR, UH, FOR THE FIRST QUARTER WE'RE REPORTED 16.
SECOND QUARTER, WE HAD ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 42 AND 42 FOR THE, ALSO FOR THE THIRD.
AND THEN FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER, WE HAD 18, UH, TOTAL PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES, WHICH IS ALSO YOUR PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.
SO THAT IS, UM, A LARGE, UM, AMOUNT FOR OUR CITY IS A GOOD, UH, AVERAGE, AVERAGE TO THE SIZE OF OUR CITY, UH, TO O OTHER, UH, CITIES.
BUT IF WE COMPARE THAT TO THE PREVIOUS, UM, YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR 18 FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER VERSUS 20 22 48 AND 2021 WAS 40.
BUT THAT WAS DURING THE TIME WHERE DEVELOPMENT WAS MORE ACTIVE DUE TO THE ECONOMY AND THE INTEREST RATE, INTEREST RATE BEING LOWER.
SO NATIONALLY, THE DEVELOPMENT OVERALL, THE COUNTRY HAS SLOWED DOWN FROM 2021, OF COURSE, BUT, UH, NOW WE ARE AT OUR AVERAGE RATE WITH, UH, WITH THE UNITED STATES.
SO, UH, OVERALL THIS IS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT RATE.
AND WITH THAT, WITH, UM, UH, EITHER RESIDENTIAL HOUSING COMING IN OR DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THROUGH DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, UH, THIS COMMISSION PLAYS A TREMENDOUS ROLE IN LOOKING AT THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AND LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PLAN FOR THE CITY AND, AND ENSURING THAT OUR CITY MOVES ON TO WHERE IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE DURING OUR GENERAL PLAN, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND, UH, SPEAKING OF, UH, DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS, I KNOW THIS, UH, THIS COMMISSION SEES A LOT OF PLATTS COMING THROUGH.
SO TOTAL FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 60 PLATTS THAT CAME THROUGH.
SO WHEN I SAY 60, I'M REFERRING INTO PLATTS NOT COMING IN AGAIN THE SECOND TIME.
UNDER THE CONSENT, UH, JUST, UH, IT CAME, UH, COMING JUST THAT ONE TIME TO THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR THAT FIRST TIME AND BEING, UH, APPROVED OF THIS APPROVED AND ALSO PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR THE, UH, LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD A TOTAL OF FOUR PARKLAND DEDICATIONS.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE, I THINK WE HAVE TWO TONIGHT, ONE TONIGHT, BUT, UH, LAST YEAR WAS FOUR.
SO WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION THAT SHOWS THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY, UH, DEDICATING LAND THROUGH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR PARKS.
UH, AND ALSO WITH THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
NEXT, WE WANNA GO THROUGH DESIGN REVIEWS.
SO, AND THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW, AS AFTER THEY GET THE, UH, PLAN, UH, CONCEPT OF ZONING GET, UH, FINALIZED, AND IT GOES THROUGH DESIGN REVIEW.
WE ACTUALLY HAD 37 DESIGN REVIEWS THAT ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH OUR, UH, UH, CITY, NOT DESIGN REVIEWS, AS IN SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING SIMPLE DESIGN REVIEWS THAT ACTUALLY CAME THROUGH THE, UH, COMMISSION ITSELF.
AND AFTER COMMISSION, THEY ACTUALLY CAME THROUGH, UM, AND WAS UP AND WENT THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT'S THE TOTAL FOR THIS YEAR.
AND ALSO PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING TOTAL, ALL THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER CAME UP TO 122.
AND THIS IS JUST SHOWING DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AND QUERY ZONING.
UH, UH, APPLIED FOR AS 13, BUT ACTUAL PROJECTS VERSUS A 13 ACTUAL PROJECTS, UH, ZONING PROJECTS OUT THE YEAR.
SO YOU, YOU AVERAGE ABOUT A ONE PER MONTH, UH, ZONING CASES THAT ACTUALLY COME TO THE COMMISSION.
AND ALSO COMP YOUR CONCEPT PLANS, YOUR PRE PRELIMINARY PLATS, YOUR FINAL PLAT.
ON THE AVERAGE, IT'S, UH, ABOUT FIVE PER MONTH IN C UH, SIENNA SOUTH, WHICH IS, UH, ALSO THE ETJ OF 29.
AND THIS IS JUST DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT MISSOURI CITY.
ONES THAT WE KNOW THAT HAS A TREMENDOUS, UH, UH, OH, I'M SORRY, PARKLAND, UH, DEDICATION FOR THE CITY THAT HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT THAT CAME ACTUALLY TO THE COMMISSION THAT HAS A LARGE EFFECT, UH, WITHOUT CITY.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, PARKWAY CROSSING ONCE AGAIN, AGAIN, BEVERLY WOODS WITH THE, UH, LAND BEING DEDICATED IN THE, UH, TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE AREA TERRITORY AT VICKSBURG AND
AND THIS IS JUST AGAIN, UH, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PERMIT APPLICATIONS THAT IS APPLIED FOR THROUGH OUR,
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UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BY TYPE.AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE LARGE NUMBER IS OUR MVP'S PERMIT.
THAT'S MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, AND, UM, UH, PERMITS.
BUT, UH, OVERALL THE CITY, UH, IN THE PERMIAN DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT SERVICE OVERALL DOES, UH, IT'S MOVING ON AND MOVING FORWARD AS OUR CITY, UH, PROGRESSES.
UH, MISSOURI CITY IS NOT WHAT MISSOURI CITY WAS IN 1956 WHEN WE WAS FOUNDER.
AND AS TIME PASSED, WE DO, UH, CHANGE AND, UH, RE-ORGANIZE.
AND THIS COMMISSION PLAYS A LARGE, UH, PART OF THAT.
SO WE JUST SHOWING THE NUMBERS SO THAT Y'ALL CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COME THROUGH EVERY MONTH.
AND WE CAN SEE A OVERALL AVERAGE.
AND THIS IS YOUR, UH, YOUR AVERAGE PERMITTING, UH, ACTIVITY 40 YEARS.
SO YOUR AVERAGE IS ABOUT, UH, UH, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REVIEWS THAT ACTUALLY COME THROUGH, UH, YEARS.
YOU AVERAGE ABOUT FOUR PER MONTH.
AND YOUR TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AVERAGE ABOUT 628.
WELL, AND YOUR MAJOR PERMITS IS YOUR MAJOR, UH, PERMITS ABOUT 10% OF ALL APPLICATION TYPES.
AND THAT IS ALL FOR MY REPORT.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION ABOUT THIS REPORT? YES, THANKS.
ONE IS EDUCATION FOR MYSELF AND THE OTHER ONE'S AROUND, UH, BENCHMARKING.
UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, BUT THE ONE THAT SHOWED THE CASH IN LIEU OF, I THINK THERE WERE FOUR SQUARES ON THAT DOES, THAT'S EQUAL TO THE FOUR, UM, DEALS THAT WE HAD WITH, UH, LAND DEDICATIONS.
IS THAT CORRECT? 'CAUSE WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT WE HAD SPACE DEDICATED FOR LAND AND PARKS USE, HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDED CASH IN LIEU OF BUILDING THOSE PARTS.
SO IN REALITY, WE DID NOT HAVE SPACE FOR PARKS.
AND SO, UM, EACH ONE OF THOSE WENT THROUGH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION PROCESS, UM, THAT WENT TO PARKS PORT AND THE P AND Z, AND THEN THE COUNCIL.
UM, SO EACH ONE IS LOCATED, UM, IN VARIOUS PARK ZONES.
SO THE CONSIDERATION AT THE TIME WAS, UM, THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, BECAUSE, UH, LAND IS REQUIRED, UM, UP TO, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN SIZE, ANYTHING, ANY DEDICATION THAT'S BELOW FIVE ACRES.
UM, TYPICALLY, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO TAKE CASH IN LIEU OF, UM, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING SMALLER, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKS, UH, FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES.
UM, SO PART OF IT WAS THAT CONSIDERATION, UM, AND THEN ALSO PART OF THE CONSIDERATION, WHAT'S THE NEEDS OF THAT PARTICULAR PARK ZONE.
UM, AND SO THE CASH GOING INTO THOSE PARK ZONES CAN BE USED TO ACQUIRE PARK LAND OR MAINTAIN ENHANCED PARKS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT PARK ZONE.
THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL BACKGROUND.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, IS ALSO MORE OF A COMMENT, UM, WITH THE DATA THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SHOWED US, IS THERE A, AND HERE'S WHAT WE DO WITH IT PART THAT WE MAY NOT RECEIVE, WHICH IS COMPLETELY FINE.
UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING HARD AT THAT, BUT WHAT, WHAT I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO SEE, UM, IS NOW HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM, FROM THE DATA.
HERE'S HOW WE'RE IMPACTING THE CITY.
WE NOTICE BUSINESS A HAS AN UPTICK OF PERMITS OR APPLICATIONS.
SO WE, THIS, IT FITS OUR MODEL, SO WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM, OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.
IF WE GET A, THE, THE NEXT STEP OF THAT, UM, IT'S GOOD.
IT'S GREAT FOR BENCHMARKING TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UM, THE THREE YEAR TREND THAT YOU SHOWED THOSE NUMBERS, I DIDN'T SEE A, A TREND.
LIKE I THINK THIS YEAR ON THAT SLIDE, THE THIRD QUARTER WAS PROBABLY OUR BUSIEST THIRD QUARTER IN A FEW YEARS.
SO IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, IT BEGS THE QUESTION WHY WHEN THE PAST, I THINK QUARTER 1 21 WAS, WAS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, AND THEN QUARTER FOUR OF, OF THIS ONE WAS THE SAME WAY.
BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE IF WE CAN TRACK THOSE THINGS AND MAYBE PUSH, PROMOTE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, FOR BUSINESSES OR, HEY, IT'S PERMIT TIME, DID YOU KNOW THOSE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS SO WE COULD ACT ON THE DATA WE'RE GETTING, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD.
SO AS, AS PLANNERS, OF COURSE, WE ARE, UH, WE PLAN, UH, ONE OF THE ASPECTS WE USE TO PLAN IS DATA DRIVEN.
SO WE ARE ACTUALLY BUILDING A DATABASE AND WE ARE TAKING THOSE DIFFERENT TRENDS, ANALYZING THEM, AND UH, LOOKING AT THEM IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO THIS IS PRIMARY DATA THAT WE ARE GATHERING FROM OURSELVES.
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AND WE ALSO ADDING ON DATA TOO.SO STARTING THIS YEAR, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UH, CERTIFICATION OF OCCUPANCIES AND SEPARATING THEM FROM CERTIFIC EDUCATION OF OCCUPANCIES, JUST GENERALLY.
AND ONES THAT'S ACTUALLY DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAME THROUGH THE, THE PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF HOW LONG IT TAKES DEVELOPERS FROM BEING, UH, APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ACTUALLY GOING INTO DEVELOPMENT OR DESIGN REVIEW.
SO WE ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING AT THOSE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS, UH, NUMBERS AND TRYING TO ANALYZE IT AND SEE WHAT IS GOING ON.
BUT THE DATA IS, HAS JUST STARTED.
SO WE HAVE NOT YET HAD ENOUGH DATA TO REALLY GET A FULL STORY OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SEE.
AND LIKE I SAID, FOR WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN THUS FAR, IT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD.
I JUST WANT TO KEEP US THINKING IN THAT DIRECTION OF THE WHAT'S NEXT.
BUT WE WILL USE IT TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR SURE IN THE FUTURE.
AND IT IS NOTED WHAT YOU SAID.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? NO, THANK YOU.
[b. Engineering]
WE MOVE ON.GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU, GENTLEMEN.
UM, WE'VE BEEN, UH, HIRING WITHIN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND, UH, IN LIEU OF BRINGING IN EXTERNAL STAFF, WE'VE DECIDED TO PROMOTE TWO EMPLOYEES, UH, MR. BRIAN JACKSON TAYLOR, WHO'S CURRENTLY THE ENGINEERING ASSISTANT, HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO THE STAFF ENGINEER.
BRIAN'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB FOR THE CITY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
UH, THIS YEAR ALONE, HE'S WHAT REVIEWED AND MANAGED 103 DIFFERENT, UH, DESIGN REVIEWS AND PERMIT REVIEWS, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT'S ABOUT ONE EVERY THREE DAYS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT DOING THE PLAIN REVIEW.
HE'S ENGAGING WITH THE DEVELOPERS, RESOLVING ISSUES, UM, REALLY TAKING CHARGE ON MAKING SURE THAT, THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE OFF TO A GOOD START.
AND THE, THE DESIGN IS A QUALITY DESIGN FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN.
SECONDLY, WE ARE PROMOTING, UH, CHAD MCLINN TO THE WHAT FROM OUR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR TO, TO A SENIOR INSPECTOR.
UH, CHAD'S BEEN WITH, BEEN WITH THE CITY OVER A YEAR, AND HE'S MANAGING THE INSPECTIONS OF, I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE GREAT PROJECTS BRIAN WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE PUTTING IN APPROXIMATELY 500 NEW DOORS WITHIN CITY LIMITS.
AND, UH, WITH THEN ADDITIONAL 500 WITHIN THE ETJ ANNUALLY, HE'S GOING OUT AND HE'S INSPECTING ALL OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WORK, WATER, SEWER, UH, STREETS, DRAINAGE, UH, WHEN SOMETHING'S NOT DONE TO STANDARD.
HE'S QUICK TO IDENTIFY THAT AND WORK TOWARD, TOWARDS A REASONABLE SOLUTION UP TO AND INCLUDING HAVING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PULLED OUT AND LAID BACK IN.
UH, HE'S DOING GREAT WORK FOR THE CITY AND SAVING US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE ISSUES THROUGH HIS OVERSIGHT.
WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO PROMOTE THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS.
YOU'RE DOING OUTSTANDING WORK FOR THE CITY.
HOW ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER? OH, I'M SORRY.
THE STATUS OF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
UH, IF Y'ALL KNOW OF ANY, UM, WE, WE'VE HAD THAT SOLICITATION OPEN FOR A WHILE.
UH, IT'S RECEIVED A LIMITED NUMBER OF RESPONSES.
WE ARE REVIEWING THE CRITERIA UNDER WHICH WE'RE SOLICITING AND WE PLAN ON RESITTING, UM, THAT POSITION, UH, WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF REQUIREMENTS AND POTENTIALLY A DIFFERENT PAY GRADE IN ORDER TO BRING IN SOME QUALITY APPLICANTS.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD FIVE APPLICANTS SO FAR, AND, UH, NONE HAVE BEEN, NONE HAVE BROUGHT FORTH THE QUALIFICATIONS NECESSARY TO TAKE THE LEAD IN THE CITY OF OUR SIZE AND NATURE.
EVERY TIME I GET CAUGHT AT THE RED LIGHT
I BELIEVE THAT'S A COMMON EXPERIENCE FOR MOST PEOPLE.
OH, ANOTHER QUESTION JUST TO BUILD ON THAT.
SO HOW LONG'S THAT POSITION BEEN OPEN, THAT REQUISITION? OH, THAT'S BEEN OPEN FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS NOW.
AND TYPICALLY THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, SIX MONTHS FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, TRAFFIC ENGINEERS ARE DIFFICULT TO COME BY, TO BE FRANK.
UH, AND, AND ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER DAVIS MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO HOW LONG IT TOOK TO PROCURE AMINA, WHO WAS OUR PREVIOUS, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
YEAH, IT TOOK US A VERY LONG TIME TO FIND AMINA AND SHE ACTUALLY GOT HER PTOE LICENSE AFTER WE HIRED HER.
AND, AND, AND JUST WANNA BRING THE COMMISSION BACK THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA, UM, TO DISCUSS.
UM, SO WE CAN'T ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION, UM, ON THIS.
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YOU AGAIN.MOVING ON TO, UH, NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS A A TIME FOR, UH, ANYBODY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON, UH, ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP.
[a. CONSENT AGENDA]
PLATTS, THE CONSENT AGENDA.CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A SIENNA FOUR C.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLATT FOR LEXINGTON VILLAGE.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLATT FOR LOVET DETENTION.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLATT FOR MEADOWVIEW ESTATES.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLATT FOR OAKWOOD FOREST CENTER.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLATT OF SIENNA PARK OFFICE CENTER.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLATT OF SIENNA.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF THE FINAL PLATT OF TEXAS PARKWAY PLAZA.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF FORT BEND TOWN CENTER THREE, SECTION TWO RE NUMBER ONE.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A REPL NUMBER THREE OF PARKWAY PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF AN AMENDING PLATT OF CNM MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF TERRITORY AT MISSOURI CITY RESERVE.
GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES PLEASE.
[b. PARKLAND DEDICATION]
PARKWAY PARKLAND DEDICATION.UH, THE ONE IS THIS THE, WE'RE IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE, RIGHT, UH, CONSIDERED SIENNA JOHNSON DEVELOPMENT IN SANTA JOHNSON NORTH DEDICATION OF PARKLAND TO SATISFY SECTION 82 DASH 1 74 CITY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
SO, UM, I'M REALLY NOT PREPARED.
I WAS NOT EXPECTING TO, TO, UH, PRESENT TODAY ON THIS ITEM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, SIENNA NORTH, UH, UH, SENA JOHNSON ON THE SIENNA NORTH, UH, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATIONS.
UH, WE WENT, UH, WE, WE, WE'VE, UH, VETTED IT THROUGH THE PARKS BOARD.
UH, THEY APPROVED IT, UH, AND IT'S NOW BEFORE YOU TO, TO APPROVE IT.
I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME ABOUT HOW MANY ACRES IT, IT IS.
SO YEAH, AND TO BRING THE COMMISSION UP TO SPEED, THIS IS ACTUALLY, UM, RELATING TO SIENNA NOR SO NOT ANY OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN SIENNA.
UM, SO THE PLAQUE THAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IN THE AREA CONSIDERED SIENNA SOUTH, UM, SO EVERYTHING BASICALLY SOUTH OF, UM, I THINK SEAT BANK TRACE GOING SOUTH.
UM, THAT'S ALL PART OF A DEDICATION OF 70 ACRES, UM, THAT, UH, JOHNSON DEVELOPMENT DEDICATED DEEDED TO THE CITY.
UM, THIS IS REGARDING EVERYTHING NORTH.
UM, SO ALONG SIENNA SPRINGS, UM, ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, DEVELOPED YEARS AGO, UM, THEY DEDICATED TO PARKLAND DEDICATIONS ALONG WHERE THE TOLL ROAD WILL EVENTUALLY CONTINUE PAST ITS TERMINUS NOW.
UM, SO THEY JUST BUILT THE TOLL ROAD TO SIENNA, UM, RANCH ROAD, UM, AND IT'LL CONTINUE WEST FROM THERE.
THEY DEDICATED LAND GOING TOWARDS THE BRAZOS, UH, ABOUT 151, UM, ACRES, UM, TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.
UM, BUT THE PROPERTY WAS NEVER DEEDED OVER TO THE CITY.
UM, AND SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY, UM, WITH PARK STAFF, WITH LEGAL STAFF, UM, WITH US, UM, TO CLARIFY THAT DEDICATION.
UM, AND SO THE ACREAGE AMOUNT, UM, IS BASICALLY THE SAME, UM, BUT THE LAND AREAS FROM THE PARCELS, UM, ARE CHANGING.
AND SO THIS IS AN ACTION THAT LEGAL'S BEEN, UH, SHEPHERDING THROUGH, UM, TO CLARIFY THAT DEDICATION SO THAT IT WILL OFFICIALLY, UM, BE DEEDED OVER TO THE CITY.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS DEDICATION FOR WELL OVER A YEAR NOW.
UH, WAY BACK WHEN, UH, UH, JASON MANGUM WAS STILL THE, UH, PARKS DIRECTOR, AND, UH, HE WAS IN ON THIS, AND WE, UH, WE, WE, UH, HE, HE, UH, WORKED HEAVILY WITH, UH, SIENNA JOHNSON TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THAT THE PARK LAND THAT WAS BEING, UH, DEDICATED
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WAS, UH, PARKLAND THAT THE CITY COULD USE AND WOULD, WOULD FIT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.UH, SO FROM THERE, WE MADE MAKE SURE THAT THE CALCULATIONS WERE EXACT SO THAT WE KNEW THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY WERE IN COM.
THEY, THE DEDICATIONS THAT THEY WERE DOING WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND EQUAL THE AMOUNT IT, IT, THE, THE, THE CALCULATIONS FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT, UH, EQUAL THE AMOUNT THAT THEY WERE, UH, UH, DEDICATING IN PARKLAND.
UH, AND SO FROM THERE, UH, WE WENT A LITTLE BIT BACK AND FORTH, UH, KIND OF GOING, THERE WAS NO DEDICATIONS OF A PLAT, SO WE HAD TO DEVELOP, UH, UH, A, UH, MECHANISM TO GET DEEDS FOR THESE PROPERTIES.
AND WE WENT THROUGH THE, WE, WE WENT AND GOT, UH, WE GOT THE DEVELOPER TO GIVE IT SOME FIELD NOTES, SPECIFICALLY SHOWING US WHERE THE, UH, THE PARKLAND THAT THEY'RE DEDICATING WOULD BE.
UH, WE'VE GOT MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTIONS OF ALL THAT PARKLAND.
WE CONFIRMED THAT IT WAS, UH, IT MET THE NEEDS OF THE ORDINANCE.
UH, WE BROUGHT IT TO THE PARKS BOARD, WHICH THEY APPROVED AND, AND SENT FORWARD TO THIS BODY.
AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU FOR Y'ALL'S APPROVAL.
SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE APPROVING RE MAKING RECOMMENDATION TO, TO ACCEPT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AND MOVING IT TO CITY FOR CITY CAMP? THE OUTCOME OF THIS PROCESS, BASICALLY? YES.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANT.
AND I APOLOGIZE, I DID NOT KNOW THAT I WOULD BE PRESENTING TODAY.
I WAS LOOKING AT AN OLDER VERSION OF A, OF A, OF, OF THE AGENDA.
AND, UH, I WAS NOT LISTED AS A PRESENTER IN THE OLD VERSION, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
WELL, YOU DID GREAT FOR BEING PREPARED.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AS AN OLD LAWYER, I CAN, I CAN JIVE A LITTLE BIT.
DID THE PARKS BOARD GET ANY MORE INFORMATION THAN THIS WHEN THEY APPROVED IT? UH, WELL, AT THE, ACTUALLY THEY DID AT THE PARKS BOARD.
UH, WE HAD, UH, AH, SHE'S HERE
I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH JOE, UM, WITH OUR FORMER, UH, DIRECTOR NOW, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, JASON MANGA, ON GETTING THIS PROCESS, UM, SOLIDIFIED OR THIS DEDICATION SOLIDIFIED.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
JOE'S BEEN INVOLVED FOR, LIKE HE SAID, MORE THAN A YEAR.
WE'VE BEEN, BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UM, FIGURING OUT THE EXACT PLATTS, THE EXACT LOCATION, THE ACCESS POINTS THAT WE WOULD NEED, NOT PER THE ORDINANCE, BUT THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE, UM, THAT'S BEING DEDICATED.
UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM AND THE PARKS BOARD, UM, BECAUSE THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY IN QUOTES, DEDICATED.
UM, WE DID HAVE ALL OF, WE DO HAVE ALL OF THAT COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN JOHNSON DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY.
UM, THIS IS MORE OF THE FORMAL GOING BACK AND SOLIDIFYING THIS PROCESS.
UM, SO THE PARKS WERE OF, WERE REVIEWED KIND OF WHAT THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS.
THIS IS JUST THE NEW PLATTS, UM, THE OFFICIAL, UM, LEGAL DEFINITIONS OF THE PROPERTIES, UM, AS WELL AS SETTING US UP FOR BEING ABLE TO ACCEPT THOSE DEEDS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO IS IT THE SAME PROPERTY THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE PAST, UM, WITH THE, IT WAS AGREED TO IN THE PAST, AT THAT POINT WHERE WE WERE, NOT IT? YES AND NO.
'CAUSE AT THAT POINT WE WERE NOT FOR SURE THAT THE TOLL ROAD WAS GONNA BE COMING THROUGH IT.
UM, SO BASICALLY WE HAD THE TWO PARCELS, AND NOW THE TOLL ROAD IS GONNA BE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
UM, AND SO WE, THAT'S THE ONLY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, LEGAL, YOU MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS NOW THAT TOLL FUTURE TOLL ROAD IS IDENTIFIED ON, UM, OUR MAPS FOR FUTURE PARKLAND, THAT IT WILL BE THERE, THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE, WITHOUT US WORKING WITH TXDOT, WITHOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT NEEDS, WE WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS BETWEEN THE TWO PRO PARCELS, UM, OF A SIENNA DEDICATION, BUT THE PARCELS ARE THE SAME.
I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE MY HEART IS.
UM, I, I DO HOWEVER, THINK IT'S, IT, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTATION TO TAKE A LOOK AT PRIOR TO US MAKING A DECISION.
'CAUSE I ASSUME WE WOULD HAVE TO, IT WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL AFTER THAT.
AND, AND THEN, SO I, I WOULD LIKE SOME DOCUMENTATION JUST TO LOOK AT.
AND THEN, UM, MY, MY OTHER THOUGHT OR QUESTION WAS, UH, TIMELINE ON THIS.
LIKE, COULD WE POTENTIALLY TABLE THIS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING
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WHERE WE WOULD HAVE DOCUMENTATION AND NOT BE A HINDRANCE ON YOUR PLAN? IT, IT WOULD NOT HINDER US.UM, AT THIS POINT WE DO HAVE PLANS FOR, FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UM, HOWEVER, IT'S NOT, UM, IT IS IN OUR MASTER PLAN, IN OUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
UM, WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARKLAND WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
I'LL GIVE YOU THAT FISCAL YEAR.
I WILL ADD, THOUGH, I THINK IT, IT, THE, THE LANDOWNER DEVELOPER IS EXPECTING TO HAVE THIS LOOK, THIS LAND OFF OF ITS ROLES ABOUT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY AND NOT INTO 24.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS BODY CAN, YOU KNOW, DECIDE TO DO WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION, OBVIOUSLY.
WELL, EFFECTIVELY, NORMALLY WHAT WE WOULD GET IN A PARKLAND INDICATION IS THE MINUTES FROM THE PARKLAND, UH, THE PARK BOARD MEETING SAYING THAT THEY APPROVED IT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK THAT'S MISSING.
AND THEY'VE BASICALLY SAID THE PARK BOARD'S APPROVED IT.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, I'M DEFINITELY WITH IT.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS PRIOR TO THAT INFORMATION.
SO, SO WHAT, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS, WE ARE APPROVING THE AGENDA PACKAGE JUST HAS TO APPROVE THE DEDICATION FOR A CITY ORDINANCE.
THERE'S NO SPECIFICS, THERE'S NOTHING BEYOND THAT.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE? IS JUST THAT WORDING? NO, NO, NO.
YOU'RE ASKING, THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.
CONSIDER AND, AND APPROVE THE, UH, THE SIENNA JOHNSON NORTH DEDICATION OF PARKLAND.
TO SATISFY THE CITY ORDINANCE SECTION 2 82 DASH 1 74.
UH, YEAH, AS I, AS I STATED, THE WAY I VIEW IT NOW IS EFFECTIVELY THEY GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT.
THEY WENT TO THE PARKS BOARD, PARKS BOARD, AGREED AND, AND SENT IT TO US FOR US TO SEND IT TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO YES, WE'RE MISSING THE, THE MINUTES FROM THE PARKS BOARD.
BUT THAT'S ALL THE SPECIFICS WE TYPICALLY GET IS, IS WE GET THE MINUTES, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM ON THEIR MEETING, AND THEY, AND THEY APPROVE IT OR DISAPPROVE IT, AND THEY SEND IT TO US TO DO THE SAME.
AND HENCE, IT'S A CONSENT ITEM.
THERE'S NOT A PUBLIC, AND I, I REALLY DO APOLOGIZE.
THIS IS MY FIRST PARKS BOARD, UH, DEDICATION.
SO, UH, UH, I'M APOLOGIZING FOR BEING UNPREPARED AND NOT BRINGING YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MINUTES FROM THE, UH, PARKS BOARD, UH, UH, WHICH OBVIOUSLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WE CAN BRING THIS BACK IN JANUARY IF WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO YOU ALREADY HAVE A MOTION? OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UH, SO IF, IS THERE A FURTHER DISCUSSION? I MEAN, IS THERE A NEED TO BRING THIS BACK OR NOT? I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE.
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THE NEXT IRREGULAR AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT.CONSIDER A VARIANCE REQUEST TO ELIMINATE THE FINAL PLANT VARIANCES APPLICATION TIMELINE IN SECTION 82 DASH NINE C CITY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
THIS IS THE SECOND UNUSUAL ITEM.
WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME DECENT GIFTS THIS YEAR.
SO WE, WE BROUGHT YOU TO VERY UNUSUAL, UM, CALLING BIRDS.
SO GENERALLY WHAT, WHAT THIS IS ASKING FOR, UM, AND IT'S SOME DENSE LANGUAGE IN HERE, IS THE, THE VILLAGE OF BEES CREEK.
UH, INSTEAD OF ADDING IN THE SIDEWALKS ALONG MCKEEVER, AND I HAVE, I HAVE A SLIDESHOW.
I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE GOING BEFORE I START DRIVING US THERE.
UM, SIDEWALK ALONG MCKEEVER, INSTEAD OF INSTALLING THAT SIDEWALK AT THIS TIME, THEY'D LIKE TO INSTALL IT IN THE FUTURE VIA, UH, OH, WHAT AM I LOOKING AT, UH, VIA A SECURITY INSTRUMENT THROUGH SENA LID.
SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS A TWO PART, UH, VARIANCE REQUEST.
THE FIRST PART, UH, CONSIDER A VARIANCE REQUEST TO ELIMINATE THE FINAL PLATT VARIANCE
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APPLICATION TIMELINE IN SECTION 82 DASH NINE C OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IN GENERAL THAT SAYS THAT, UH, THESE VARIANCES SHOULD BE APPLIED FOR BEFORE OR AT THE TIME OF, UH, THE FINAL PLAT.THE FINAL PLATTING IS ALREADY OCCURRED.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT PAST THAT, SO IT'S A VARIANCE ON THAT, UM, REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN THE SECOND REQUIREMENT, UH, IS THE CONSIDERATION OF VARIANCE REQUESTS TO ELIMINATE THE FINAL PLATT APPROVAL TIMELINE FOR THE SUBMISSION OF A SECURITY AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO SECTION 82 DASH 2 0 6 OF THE CITY SUBDIVISION OR ORDINANCE.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE CONSIDERATION OF THAT SECURITY AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'D HAVE TO APPROVE ONE BEFORE TWO.
AND JOE, DID I REPRESENT THAT CORRECTLY? I'M AN ENGINEER, NOT A LAWYER.
SO NOW THAT'S, THAT'S ACCURATE.
UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOOTSTRAPPING, BUT IT GETS THE CITY AND STAFF WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
UH, ITEM SEVEN C ONE, THAT, UH, THAT'S THE, UH, UH, VARIANCE TO 82 DASH NINE C, WHICH REQUIRES THAT VARIANCES, UH, BE, UH, BE SUBMITTED AT THE TIME OF THE FINAL PLATT APPLICATION.
OBVIOUSLY, THE FINAL PLATT HAS BEEN RECORDED.
UH, AND SO IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, YOU'D HAVE, WE'D HAVE TO GET, OR THIS BODY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE A VARIANCE OF THAT REQUIREMENT SO THAT IT CAN THEN GO AND THEN GIVE A VARIANCE TO WHEN THE SUBMITTAL OF THE FINANCE, THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, SECURITY AGREEMENT CAN BE GIVEN.
SO THE SECURITY AGREEMENT UNDER 82 DASH 2 0 2 0 9, UH, LET'S SEE, 2 0 6 WOULD PROVIDE THAT IN LIEU OF THE SIDEWALK BEING PUT IN CONTEMPORANEOUSLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SUBDIVISION OF THAT PARTICULAR SECTION.
THEY WOULD PROB THEY WOULD BUILD IT AT A LATER TIME WHEN THERE WAS, AND WHEN I EVEN, I'M GONNA USE THE TERM PUBLIC NEED BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT NOW, THAT SIDEWALK THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS THE MCKEEVER SIDEWALK IS A SIDEWALK THAT IS ON THE BOUNDARY OF THE SUBDIVISION.
AND, AND YOU TAKE IT FROM THE ENGINEERING STANDPOINT.
WE CAN GO ON THE ROAD AFTER THIS
SO, SO NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF TALKED THROUGH WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE TWO ODDLY WORDED VARIANCES AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ORIENT US IN SPACE, UH, THIS IS THE VILLAGE OF BEES CREEK DEVELOPMENT.
ON THE LEFT H HAND SIDE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN AERIAL VIEW THAT WAS PRE-CONSTRUCTION CLEARING AND GRUBBING HAD OCCURRED.
SO THIS IS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SIENNA PARKWAY AND MCKEEVER.
UH, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PLATT OF, UH, THIS IS SECTION 30, BUT IT ALSO SHOWS SECTION 31 IN THERE TOO.
AND SO THE VARIANCE FOR THE SIDEWALK IS ALONG THAT KIND OF NORTHERN EASTERN SIDE.
ALONG MCKEEVER, THEY WILL HAVE SIDEWALKS INTERNALLY WITHIN THE AREA.
UM, HOWEVER, SOME OF THE REASONS WHY THIS VARIANCE IS BEING, WHY WE ARE REQUESTING THIS VARIANCE BE CONSIDERED.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE ALSO IS THAT CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALK ALONG THIS SECTION OF MCKEEVER IS CONSTRAINED BY THE CURRENT GRADE LEVEL, UH, ALONG THAT, THAT NORTHERN AND EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE MCKEEVER RIGHT NOW IS, UH, SERVICE STREET WITH ROADSIDE DITCHES, AND THEN THE PROPERTY WAS THEN BUILT UP TO MEET CURRENT FLOODPLAIN STANDARDS AT A THREE TO ONE SIDE SLOPE.
SO IT'S A FAIRLY STEEP SIDE SLOPE.
SO WHERE THE SIDEWALK WOULD GO IN THIS KIND OF CONFIGURATION IS IT WOULD EITHER GO RIGHT ON THE STREET AT THE SAME GRADE AS THE STREET, 'CAUSE THERE'S NO CURB AND GUTTER THERE.
SO IT WOULD MAKE IT VERY EASY FOR CARS TO SLIDE RIGHT INTO THE SIDEWALK.
UH, THE OTHER LOCATION THAT IT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO WOULD BE AT THE BACK OF THE HOMES, WHICH IS AT THE TOP OF THAT THREE TO ONE SIDE SLOPE.
AND SO KIDS RIDING BIKES ALONG THAT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A VERY NARROW AND EASY WAY TO JUST TUMBLE RIGHT INTO THAT DITCH.
SO EITHER OF THOSE TWO LOCATIONS, UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE AT THIS TIME.
SO THESE SECOND BULLET POINT, THESE CONDITIONS MAY IMPROVE THROUGH FUTURE STREET RECON CONDUCT CONSTRUCTION OF MCKEEVER ROAD.
UH, HOWEVER, SUCH RECONSTRUCTION HAS NOT BEEN PLANNED AT THIS TIME.
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IN THE FUTURE, AS WE BUILD OUT MCKEEVER, AS WE GROW MCKEEVER, WE CAN MOVE IT INTO A CURB AND GUTTER SITUATION.AND FROM THERE WE CAN ADD IN SIDEWALKS THAT ARE SAFE, PROTECTED BY THAT CURB.
UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN IMMEDIATE PLAN TO DO.
SO MCKEEVER'S NOT IN A, NOT IN A USE SCENARIO WHERE, WHERE WE NEED TO EXPAND IT AT THIS TIME.
UM, SO IN LIEU OF ALL OF THIS, THE DEVELOPER JOHNSON DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS WORKED WITH THE CITY AND THEN THE CNL LEVY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE TIMING PLACEMENT AND FUTURE EXTENSION ALONG SIDEWALKS, UH, FOR MCKEEVER AND JOHNSON DEVELOPMENT HAS REACHED THE SECURITY AGREEMENT WITH THE LID THAT THE LID WOULD PAY A PRO RATA SHARE FOR THE SIDEWALK INSTALLATION AT SUCH TIME THAT THE SIDEWALK IS INSTALLED.
AND THAT WOULD EITHER BE FROM STREET EXPANSION OR IF WE FUND A MOBILITY PROJECT THAT WOULD ADD IN CURB AND GUTTER, MAYBE WITHOUT STREET EXPANSION FOR SOME EXPANDED CONNECTIVITY.
SO THIS IS WHERE I COME BACK IN.
I'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING, UH, AND, UH, DRAFTING A CONTRACT OR AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, UH, THE LID AND, UH, AND SIENNA, UH, SIENNA JOHNSON FOR THIS SECURITY AGREEMENT.
IT HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET.
IT HASN'T RECEIVED THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND IT HAS, AND THE, THE MOST CURRENT DRAFT THAT WE HAVE HAS NOT BEEN, UH, SENT BACK TO, UH, THE DEVELOPER FOR HIS COMMENTS.
UH, IT'S IN NEGOTIATIONS, AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN NOW, UH, WOULD REQUIRE THE LID TO PAY THE ENTIRE COST OF THAT SIDEWALK AND UPON THE, THE LIDS INABILITY TO DO SO.
OR IF IT GOES OUT OF EXISTENCE BY THE TIME THE CITY NEEDS THAT SIDEWALK, THEN IT WOULD ALWAYS FALL BACK ON THE DEVELOPER TO COME BACK AND PUT THAT SIDEWALK IN.
SO IF THERE WASN'T A THIRD PARTY INVOLVED FOR THE LID, WOULD THIS JUST BE A FIELD ADJUSTMENT THAT PROBABLY MADE IN THE 20,000 ACRES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED OUT THERE? OR YOU JUST SAY, HEY, I'M NOT GONNA DO THE SIDEWALK UNTIL IT'S READY.
RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT READY, BUT THEN THE LID COMES IN AND THEIR ABILITY TO PAY FOR IT, THAT'S JUST IT.
THE LIDS NOT GOING TO, THE LID IS NOT GONNA BE OBLIGATED TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK UNTIL THE, THE PARAMETERS, THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF THAT SIDEWALK THERE.
IT'S GONNA CONNECT TO OTHER SIDEWALKS.
UH, THERE'S GONNA BE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE, AT, AT SUCH TIME AS THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS ON A MCKEEVER ROAD THAT MAKES IT MORE FEASIBLE TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN THERE.
RIGHT NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT SIDEWALK IS A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERES.
IT'S GONNA END, BEGIN, AND END, UH, AT THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT SUBDIVISION OR THAT SECTION OF THE SUBDIVISION.
AND SO IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERES, UH, IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO ANY OTHER SIDEWALKS AT THIS TIME.
UH, IT WILL IN THE FUTURE, BUT AT SUCH TIME AS THE CITY NEEDS THAT SIDEWALK TO BE PUT IN UNDER THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT, THE LID CO AG HA WILL BE AGREEING TO COME IN AND DO THAT.
IF THAT SIDEWALK IS NOT NEEDED FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AND THE LID GOES OUT OF, UH, UH, EXISTENCE NOSIS TO EXIST, OR FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, IT CHANGES ITS MIND AND DOESN'T WANT TO HONOR THAT IT DEFAULTS ON THAT, ON THAT, UH, AGREEMENT, THEN WE'RE STILL GONNA HOLD THE DEVELOPER, UH, UH, TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK.
WE MIGHT LIKEN THIS TO CO-SIGNING ON A LOAN.
WHICH NOW, AND, AND IN MY OPINION, NOT THAT ANYONE ASKED, BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE LEGAL ISSUES THAT, THAT I'M CONFRONTING WITH IT, UH, THE LID IS NOT A A A DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THIS AGREEMENT.
THE DEVELOPER WENT AND SOUGHT THE LIDS, UH, ASSISTANCE IN THIS MATTER.
THE LID HAS AGREED TO PAY FOR THOSE AG PAY FOR THE SIDEWALK, AND WE'RE WORKING IT WITH, WE'RE WORKING IT WITH THOSE PARAMETERS WITH, WITH, WITH THE LID AND WITH THE DEVELOPER.
ORIGINALLY IT CAME TO US AS JUST AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE LID, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE DEVELOPER ON THE HOOK FOR THAT SIDEWALK IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE LID.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE GIVEN THE FACT THAT, UH, IT'S HIS, IT'S THE DEVELOPER'S OBLIGATION
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IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO STEP OUT AND, YOU KNOW, PASS THE BALL OR PUNT TO SOMEONE ELSE, IN MY OPINION.AND THAT SIDEWALK IS GONNA FOLLOW MCKEEVER ROAD, LIKE AT THE TOP AND THEN GO DOWN.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO THE SIDEWALK, UM, WOULD FOLLOW THAT ALIGNMENT.
UH, IT WOULD CONNECT TO THE INTERSECTION OF MCKEEVER AND SIENNA.
HOWEVER, AS WE MOVE WEST ALONG THAT PROPERTY, KIND OF THAT LITTLE DUCKTAIL AT THE END, UH, THERE'S NO OTHER IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE FOR SIDEWALK.
IT WOULD BE A SIDEWALK THAT WOULD GO OUT TO THE END AND NOT DIRECTLY CONNECT TO ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
THERE ARE, UM, THERE WILL BE INTERNAL SIDEWALKS BUILT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, WE'LL HAVE WALKABLE, UM, PATHS TO SIENNA.
UH, AND THEN FROM THERE THEY TRAVERSE NORTH OR SOUTH ALONG SIENNA.
I HAVE 2 1 1 FOLLOW UP COMMENT AND THEN ONE REAL QUESTION.
UM, THERE ARE A FEW DAYCARES ALONG THAT, THAT SIENNA PARKWAY, UM, THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS, AS THE KIDS GROW UP, YOU MENTIONED WALKING AND RIDING BIKES, UH, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED A SIDEWALK, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIALLY YOUNG KIDS GOING TO THOSE DAYCARES AND OTHER STUFF AROUND THERE.
AND SO THERE, THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS ALONG SIENNA.
UM, THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE GONNA BE INSTALLED THERE IN THE PROCESS OF, AND AGAIN, THERE, THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS INTERNAL TO THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO I MEAN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE A SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY UP TO YOUR FRONT DOOR.
UH, IT'S JUST THAT NORTHERN AND EASTERN SIDE OF MCKEEVER ALONG MCKEEVER WHERE IT DOESN'T CONNECT ANYTHING OUT FURTHER EAST.
UH, ONCE WE GET OUT TO THERE, IT'S JUST, UH, DRAINAGE DITCH AND TREES.
UM, THERE, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL, UH, FOR A LONG-TERM TRAIL SYSTEM THROUGH THERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND ARE VERY INTERESTED IN.
BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD TAKE A LARGER RECONSTRUCTION OF MCKEEVER TO, TO JUST EVEN PHYSICALLY ALLOW A SIDEWALK, UH, WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS OF THAT KIND OF SIDE SLOPE DOWN TO THE SWALE AND BACK UP TO THE ROAD.
SO THEN MY LAST THING, AND I'LL TURN OFF MY MIC, I PROMISE.
I FEEL LIKE I'VE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS TODAY.
UM, WHAT KIND OF RISK DOES THIS PUT THE CITY AT IF WE ARE ELIMINATING, UM, PLATT APPLICATION TIMELINES? AND ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? I, I'M SORRY.
I I WHAT KIND OF RISK DOES ELIMINATING THESE TIMELINES THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO ELIMINATE, PUT THE CITY AT? ARE WE AT A HIGHER LEVEL OF EXPOSURE TO ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS? UH, THESE, I'M ASKING IT RIGHT? THESE, UM, THESE VARIANCES ARE JUST FOR THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE, IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
I THINK I WAS GONNA ASK THE QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF GOING DOWN A RABBIT HOLE HERE, RIGHT? TALKING ABOUT ALL THE STUFF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AFTER WE APPROVE THIS.
WE'RE BASICALLY JUST FACILITATING THE PROCESS THAT THAT IS GOING IS ONGOING TO BE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHY ALL THIS IS HAPPENING, BUT THE FOCUS IS PLATT'S ALREADY BEEN FILED.
WE NEED TO GRANT A VARIANCE SO THAT THIS AGREEMENT CAN TAKE EFFECT, EFFECT, YOU KNOW, UH, AT SOME POINT.
UH, AND THEN I GUESS WE HAVE TO, THE SECONDARY PIECE IS THERE'S ANOTHER PROCEDURAL THING THAT WE HAVE TO GRANT A VARIANCE ON AGAIN, TO, IN THE END JUST TO ALLOW THIS PROCESS TO BE COMPLETED.
AND I WILL GO, YOU KNOW, I CAN TAKE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
THERE'S, I MEAN, WE'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATION ON THAT AGREEMENT.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO AGREEMENT IN PLACE RIGHT NOW AND YOU KNOW, THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS THAT IT, THAT THIS DEAL FALLS, FALLS APART AND THEY, THEY'D HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO BE, TO BUILD A SIDEWALK.
SO I THOUGHT THAT MCKEEVER ROAD WAS A COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY, IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS.
SO THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE THEIRS COUNTIES IF IT'S BUILT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY? YES.
SO IS THE PLAN THAT THE SIDEWALK'S GONNA BE BUILT IN THE COUNTY'S RIGHT OF WAY? THE WE DO NOT HAVE AN IDENTIFIED LOCATION FOR THE SIDEWALK.
WE WOULD NEED TO SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE MADE TO MCKEEVER AND WHERE WOULD BE THE BEST LOCATION FOR THAT SIDEWALK.
BUT IT WOULD, I'VE BE IN THE ETJ AND IT WOULD STILL BE COUNTIES.
BUT I'VE ADDRESSED THAT IN THE AGREEMENT.
SO THAT THE RE THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE BUILT IN EXISTING MCKEEVER
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ROAD RIGHT OF WAY.AND WHOEVER BILLS IT, WHETHER IT'S THE LID OR THE DEVELOPER, WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ACQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY NEEDED FOR THAT SIDEWALK.
SO THE COUNTY, ARE THEY INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL? 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE THEIR SIDEWALK REGARDLESS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IN THE ETJ, WHICH WOULD STILL BE COUNTY AND THE RIGHT OF WAY OF MCKEEVER IS ALSO COUNTY.
THE COUNTY IS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS AGREEMENT? NO.
IN THE, LIKE FOR THE VARIANCE,
NO, BECAUSE THE VARIANCE IS ONLY HAS TO DO WITH OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
OH YEAH, THAT'S TRUE IN EFFECT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE GRANT THE VARIANCE BECAUSE ALL WE'RE DOING IS ENABLING THE PROCESS TO BE COMPLETED LEGALLY.
I, I GUESS, WELL THAT'S PROBABLY A, A BAD WAY TO SAY IT, RIGHT?
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, THIS IS A PROCEDURAL THING AND, AND ALL WE'RE DOING IS SAYING WE AGREE THAT THE PROCEDURE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE CAN BE ALLOWED TO OCCUR IN THIS FASHION.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MY ONLY QUESTION IS, UH, WHY WOULD
COULD YOU REPEAT? SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW COULD YOU GET LID TO AGREE FOR HELPING THE SIDEWALK BILL IF THEY'RE NOT IN THAT BUSINESS? IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, YOU'RE ASKING HOW CAN THE CITY GET THE LID TO PAY FOR THOSE SIDEWALK? FOR THAT SIDEWALK? CORRECT.
SO I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE LID.
AT SOME POINT THE DEVELOPER HAD A DISCUSSION AND A NEGOTIATION WITH THE LID.
IS MY UNDERSTANDING TO PAY FOR THAT SIDEWALK OR THE CONSTRUCTION AND INSTALLATION OF THAT SIDEWALK.
AND I DID CHECK THEY DO HAVE AUTHORITY TO BUILD SIDEWALKS.
I DIDN'T, THAT KIND OF SURPRISES ME.
BUT THEY DO HAVE AUTHORITY TO BUILD SIDEWALKS.
THE, UH, IT'S IN THE STATE LAW.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY I CAN'T ANSWER WHY THE LID HAS AGREED REACH THAT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ITSELF AND THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD THAT SIDEWALK.
BUT THE DEVELOPER CAME TO US WITH THAT AGREEMENT AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FINALIZE IT IN SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE IT COULD BE ENFORCEABLE GOING FORWARD, MOVING INTO THE FUTURE.
ARE WE READY TO UH, HAVE A MOTION? YES, WE HAVE A MOTION.
AND THIS IS ON THE FIRST PART ONLY.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND THEN WE WILL DO THE SAME FOR THE SECOND SECTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES.
AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON NOT VOTE.
UM, BELIEVE THAT IS EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
YOU NEED A MOTION? WE NEED A MOTION.
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OKAY.