[00:00:04]
[1. CALL TO ORDER ]
TODAY IS MONDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2024.I WILL NOT CALL THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JOIN.
SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:31 PM ITEM NUMBER TWO, OUR ROLL CALL, UH, COUNCIL.
WE HAVE A QUORUM OF CITY COUNCIL THAT'S HERE.
UH, MR. WEISS CHAIR, PLEASE CERTIFY THAT YOU HAVE A QUORUM ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT'S PRESENT.
[3. PUBLIC COMMENTS]
ITEM NUMBER THREE ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS.UH, CITY SECRETARY, DO HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REQUESTS? YES, MR. MAYOR, WE DO.
MR. MARTINEZ, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND ALSO PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
UH, MY NAME IS CHRIS MARTINEZ.
I'M A, UH, I'M THE WAY AT THE STATE OF SILVER RIDGE.
THERE WAS A, UM, AGENDA ITEM ON THIS ABOUT, UM, SOME LITIGATION FOR A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BEING DONE NEW, OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THE, THE ONLY REASON THAT WE'RE HERE, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, THERE'S OTHER, OTHER VENUES FOR US TO DO THIS.
AND WHILE WE DO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA SPEAK, UM, THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO, AND WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS EVIDENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY STAFF IS THAT WE WOULD REQUEST THAT WE PROCESS IS AS TRANSPARENT AS IT POSSIBLY CAN BE.
WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A GOOD FAITH EFFORT BETWEEN OUR HOA AND THE CITY.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING UP, WE DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
WE DON'T WANT IT NEAR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T THINK IT'S A, A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE PEOPLE ON CITY COUNCIL THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, WHICH WE CAN UNDERSTAND.
THERE'S ALWAYS DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
WE CAN LISTEN TO TWO SIDES OF A COIN, AND WE CAN TRY TO COME UP WITH A, UM, A COMPROMISE.
BUT WE CAUTION CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY TO BE AS TRANSPARENT OR EXTRA TRANSPARENT IN THIS TRANSACTION BECAUSE IT'S A VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT AND IT'S A SENSITIVE SUBJECT.
BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR HOMES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR HOMES, AND WITH A RISK OF A DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD ALTER THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES AND TAKE MONEY OUT OF OUR POCKETS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY THIS IS GONNA GO.
I FEEL WE CAN ALL HEAR OURSELVES.
I'LL CALL UP THE NEXT FEW PEOPLE.
IF YOU CAN PLEASE STAND IN THE LINE.
UH, RA DEREK, I CAN'T, UM, TELL WHAT THE FIRST NAME IS, BUT, UH, CUMBERLAND LINDSEY WRIGHT, MS. DEREK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT
[00:05:01]
AND ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD,
[00:12:44]
MA'AM, THAT DOES CONCLUDE YOUR TIME.LISA, LISA KE, JESSICA BLUE DEMII A, IF YOU CAN PLEASE COME TO THE PARTY, STATE YOUR NAME,
[00:31:53]
FUSION[00:31:53]
AND,[00:31:53]
AND[00:31:54]
THINGS OF THAT NATURE.SO, WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE HERE TODAY, AND TO OUR, OUR CITY STAFF, UH, WHO COMMITTED THEIR TIME TO COME IN AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ITEMS. OKAY.
[(a) Discuss Goals and Expectations.]
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR A TWO, WHICH IS TO REVIEW CHARTER REQUIREMENTS FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.WE HAVE JENNIFER THOMAS GOMEZ, WHO WILL GO INTO THAT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A, JUST, UM, SOME CONTEXT AS TO THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION AND THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION, UM, AS THE COMMISSION WORKS WITH THE COUNCIL.
SO, THE MISSOURI CITY CHARTER CODE OF ORDINANCES SETS, ESTABLISHES THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THE COMMISSION IS REALLY CHARGED WITH ASSISTING THE COUNCIL, UM, IN AREAS CONCERNING LAND USE.
SO, SPECIFICALLY, THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN CREATED, UM, TO BE YOUR CONNECTION, TO PROVIDE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CREATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, AND MONITOR, UM, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE COMMISSION WORKS WITH DEDICATED STAFF, PROFESSIONAL STAFF, LAND USE PLANNERS, ENGINEERS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LEGAL, UM, IN ORDER TO BRING BASELINE INFORMATION, UM, TO, UH, HELP THEM IN THEIR ADVISORY, UH, CAPACITY FOR TO THE COUNCIL.
THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT BROAD PERSPECTIVE AGAIN, THAT THERE'S A ROLE FOR OUR, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN THERE IS A ROLE OF, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, AND PRIMARILY BECAUSE PLANNING AND ZONING THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY, UM, ORIGINALLY WAS CONSIDERED A BACK OFFICE.
YOU HAD PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE STUCK UP IN OUR OFFICE, WHETHER IT WAS NEW YORK OR ANY OTHER CITY THAT MADE DECISIONS TO HAVE REAL IMPACTS, UM, ON THE COMMUNITY'S DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS A TOOL THAT COMMUNITIES CAN USE, UM, TO CONNECT TO THAT CITIZEN'S INPUT, GET THAT ACHIEVE, UH, THAT CITIZEN'S INPUT, BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THAT AS THE COMMISSION.
A GROUP OF CITIZENS, UM, TAXPAYERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UM, ARE ABLE TO GIVE YOU ALL, UH, THAT FEEDBACK, UM, IN YOUR ROLE AS THE POLICYMAKERS, UH, TO ESTABLISH THE LAWS THAT ARE THEN IMPLEMENTED.
I WANNA KIND OF TRANSITION TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION, UM, TO SHOW YOU THAT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE IS STILL TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
UM, AND SO, AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR COMMISSION, UM, AND THE ROLE THAT THEY PLAY, UM, ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MAJOR THEMES FROM THE PREVIOUS ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE DIVERSITY, UM, OF OUR TAX BASE, DIVERSIFYING OUR LAND USE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
THAT PLAN TOOK THOSE, THOSE CONCEPTS, THOSE MAJOR CONCEPTS, AND APPLIED IT TO FOUR COMMERCIAL
[00:35:01]
CORRIDORS.AND SO THE PLAN ITSELF SPEAKS TO POLICY GUIDANCE TO INTERPRET, TO IMPLEMENT ON FOUR MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE EXPANDED THAT.
SO THAT'S PART OF WHERE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR YOUR COMMISSION, UM, FOR STAFF, UM, NEED TO REEVALUATE AND RECONSIDER.
THIS IS JUST A SLIDE TO SHOW SOME OF THE STRATEGIC, UH, PRIORITIES THAT A COUNCIL HAS, UM, ARTICULATED OVER THE LAST YEAR, UM, AND HOW THEY MEASURE WITH GOALS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE EXISTING PLAN.
UM, AND SO I WON'T GO INTO FULL DETAIL ON THIS.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORDS ON THE SCREEN, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THIS CONVERSATION, IT'S UNDERSTANDING KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY, UM, AND THEN ALL OF THE OTHER TOOLS AND MEASURES, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UM, IN PLACE TO UNDERSTAND, UM, KIND OF HOW THE COMMISSION, HOW THE COUNCIL CAN WORK TOGETHER, UM, AS WE MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE, UM, OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN LASTLY, I WANNA LEAVE YOU ALL WITH ON THE CHARACTER DISTRICT SIDE.
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT OUR URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, UM, VERTICAL, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT PLACEMAKING FOR MORE URBAN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES REFLECT ON THAT AND PROVIDES A CHARACTER DISTRICT FOR THAT.
UM, HOWEVER, WHAT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED ARE THE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS.
SO YOU HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES, UM, WHERE CERTAIN CHARACTER DISTRICTS, WHERE CERTAIN, UM, TYPES OF LAND USE SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED.
AND IT MAY BE TIME TO REEVALUATE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT PRIORITIES AND CURRENT DIRECTION THAT THIS COUNCIL, UM, WANTS TO IMPLEMENT.
OKAY, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO HERMAN, UH, TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR LAND AVAILABILITY.
UM, SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT MISSOURI CITY, AND WE THINK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING, WE THINK WE WANNA LOOK AT AND, UH, BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT WE HAVE LEFT IN INVENTORY OF LAND.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, UH, LAND FOR SALE, THERE ARE ABOUT 40 PARCELS OUT FOR SALE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE, UH, GREEN SPACE LAND, BUT THERE'S OVER 437 PARCELS THAT ARE, UH, STILL IN INVENTORY.
AND WHAT I MEAN AND DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE TWO 40 OF THEM ARE FOR SALE.
THE OTHER 390 ARE AVAILABLE TO BE SOLD, BUT THEY'RE NOT FOR SALE.
SO THEY MAY JUST BE SOMEONE HOLDING IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, AND A LOT OF THESE DEALS ARE DONE WITH LAND THAT'S NOT FOR SALE.
SO A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE TO CALL PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE LAND FOR SALE AND ASK, UH, OR DEVELOPERS WILL CALL THEM AND ASK TO SEE IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SELL LAND AND SO FORTH.
SO WE TRY TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THESE PARCELS OF LAND BECAUSE WE WANNA BE ABLE TO DO THE BEST, UH, USE, UH, FOR THE CITIZENS OF MISSOURI CITY.
SO WHAT WE LOOK AT, AND THEN THE SECOND THING WE DO IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, PRETTY MUCH WE HAVEN'T HAD A ROBUST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEPARTMENT IN MISSOURI CITY.
SO WHAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IS TAKE THE STAKEHOLDERS IN MIND.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER DOES COME IN, WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, STEER A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A, AS IN HOUSTON, THERE IS NO PLAN IN ZONING.
DEVELOPERS COME IN, THEY BUILD WHAT THEY WANT AS THEY COME INTO THE CITY.
THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE FACE IS LIKE, WHAT? YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PLAN AND ZONING.
AND SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR LAND USE PLAN, WHAT WE WANT, WHAT OUR APPETITE IS, BECAUSE THEY AUTOMATICALLY JUST ASSUME THAT THEY CAN DO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WANT.
SO IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO STEER THAT SHIP.
UM, THIS IS THE CORRIDOR, UH, THAT'S VERY HOT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE, WHICH IS FORT BEND TOLL ROAD AND HIGHWAY SIX.
WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SOLD AND HAS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON IT.
UM, LIKE, UH, YOUR FORT BEND TOWN CENTER THREE THAT, UH, EVERYBODY'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH MULTI-FAMILY AND A RETAIL, THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETELY DISCLOSED THEIR FINAL FOOTPRINT FOR IT YET.
THEY'VE GOT SOME CONCEPTUAL MODELS OUT THERE.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UM, SOUTH OF THERE WITH EXPANSION OF ROAD, UM, UH, THAT HAS BEEN WEIGHTED FOR, TO SEE WHAT OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT CAN BE DONE.
AND THEN ON THE, UM, CORRIDOR ABOVE FOR BEND TOW ROAD, WE'VE GOT, UM, THE, SOME MULTIFAMILY COMING IN AND SOME COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE RIGHT ALONG FOR BEND TOWN CENTER, TWO PORTS, BEND TOWN CENTER ONE FOR BEND TOWN CENTER.
TWO HAS BEEN SO POPULAR, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PAD SITE.
THEY TALKED TO ME ABOUT THAT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO CREATE ANOTHER PAD SITE BECAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH FULLY OCCUPIED AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND THEN ALONG THE CORRIDORS NORTH, UH, WE'RE IN TALKS WITH,
[00:40:01]
UM, THE LAND DEVELOPERS TO SEE ABOUT BRINGING PURPOSEFUL, UH, UM, DEVELOPMENT RIGHT ALONG, UH, FORT BEND TOLL ROAD AND HIGHWAY SIX AND NORTH OF, OF HIGHWAY SIX, DOWN PAST, UH, UH, THAT AREA.BUT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE WAITING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN THE BIGGEST THING IN MISSOURI CITY, AND YOU GUYS KNOW THIS IF YOU'RE ON PLANNING AND ZONING, IS WE ARE BIG DEMAND FOR LAND, BIG DEMAND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN REDEVELOPMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP REDEVELOPMENT IN MIND.
WE'VE GOT CORE, WE'VE GOT SOME OF OUR, UH, STUFF THAT'S WRITTEN, OUR POLICIES ARE WRITTEN THAT DON'T KEEP IN MIND, UM, OLD URBAN AREAS.
UH, THEY DON'T KEEP IN MIND SMALLER LOTS THAT, BECAUSE NOWADAYS THE BIG LOTS ARE, ARE BIG, UH, ACRE LOTS AND QUARTER LOTS.
AND THERE IS, UH, LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, AESTHETIC REQUIREMENTS THAT A LOT OF THE OLD CORRIDORS DON'T KEEP THAT IN MIND.
SO WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPERS, THE PARCELS OF LAND THAT ARE LEFT, LIKE IN THIS DIAGRAM, THIS IS CONCEPTUAL, BUT WE TALK TO ALL THE LANDOWNERS ON TEXAS PARKWAY.
IT'S THE ENTRANCE TO MISSOURI CITY ON HIGHWAY 90.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER'S COMING IN IS GONNA BE REFLECTIVE OF, OF THE BRAND THAT, THAT WE WANT TO, UH, PROMOTE AND VERIFY THAT WE ARE ABLE TO, UM, COME HERE AND PRESENT TO YOU, UH, PLAN ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL, SOMETHING THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND THAT'S, UM, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS AND FOR THE BUSINESSES.
I WILL PASS IT OVER TO THE CITY ENGINEER,
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONERS.
UH, SO TALKING ABOUT SOME UTILITY AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WE HAVE COMING IN.
SO, JENNIFER TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE PLANNING.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? LONG RANGE.
HERMAN TALKED ABOUT WHO'S COMING IN AND KNOCKING AT OUR DOORS.
WE NEED TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO MEET THOSE NEEDS, LONG RANGE AND IMMEDIATE.
AND SO WE'RE DOING SOME WORK, UH, BOTH IN UTILITIES AND IN MOBILITY ROADWAY TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SOME OF THE UTILITIES PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE WORKING ON A FINAL OR A SECOND STAGE OF AN UPGRADE TO OUR, UH, MUSTANG BAYOU WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
TAKING IT FROM ONE MGD TWO MGD DOUBLING CAPACITY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT FURTHER EXPANSIONS FROM THERE.
DO WE TAKE IT TO 3 4, 4 0.5? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR A CITY? SO WE'RE WORKING ON PLANNING ON THAT.
WE HAVE TWO GROUNDWATER FACILITIES IN THIS AREA.
OUR MUSTANG PLANTS ONE AND TWO.
WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPANSIONS IN THOSE FACILITIES, BOTH REHABILITATING THE EXISTING GROUNDWATER STORAGE TANKS, AND THEN EXPANDING THE WATER PUMPING CAPACITY OF THOSE TO MEET THE GROWING NEEDS OF THIS HIGHWAY SIX FORT BEND TOLL ROAD AREA.
SOME ARE MUSTANG BY YOUR SERVICE AREA.
WE'RE DOING LINE PROJECTS TOO.
WE'RE MAKING ALL THIS GREAT WATER.
PEOPLE ARE MAKING ALL THIS GREAT SEWAGE, AND WE NEED TO GET 'EM TO THE RIGHT PLACES.
AND SO WE ARE, UH, WHAT WE JUST COMPLETED, OUR JUST ABOUT COMPLETED A TRANSMISSION LINE PROJECT THAT'S TAKING WASTEWATER FROM SOME OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING WEST OF TOWN CENTER TWO OVER OPENING, UH, OVER TO OUR, UH, MUSTANG BAYOU WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THAT'LL FREE UP SOME CAPACITY OUT IN THAT HURRICANE LANE AREA.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO SOME, UH, LINE EXPANSION PROJECTS THERE TO OPEN UP DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.
WE'RE ALSO ADDING SOME WASTEWATER TRANSMISSION LINES DOWN SHIPMAN'S COVE, UH, AND ALONG TRAMMELL FRESNO TO OPEN UP CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS FOR SOME OF THE GREAT PROJECTS.
MERMAN'S TALKING ABOUT COMING IN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MOBILITY WITHIN THIS SAME AREA, THERE'S ABOUT THREE REALLY BIG PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON.
AND THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH FORT BEND COUNTY ON FIRST.
WE'RE WORKING ON TRAMMELL FRESNO.
IT'S, RIGHT NOW IT'S AN ASPHALT 11 FOOT WIDE, EACH LANE KIND OF NARROW, BUMPY ROAD.
IT'S GONNA BE 12 FOOT LANES, UH, SIX FOOT, UM, SIX FOOT SIDES IS GONNA HAVE WALKING SIDEWALKS, NICE SIX FOOT PATHS.
AND IT'S GONNA BE CONCRETE, AND IT'S GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL ROAD.
IT'S GONNA HELP DEVELOPMENT UP IN THAT KIND OF, UH, MIDDLE SECTION OF OUR CITY, DOWN ALONG WATTS.
RIGHT NOW, WATTS FROM SIENNA TO KNIGHTS ROAD IS A TWO LANE ROAD.
WE'RE GONNA BE EXPANDING THAT.
WE'RE TAKING THAT UP TO THREE LANES.
THAT'S ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION IN THE CENTER, CENTER, CONTINUOUS TURN LANE.
WE'RE REWORKING THE DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THE COUNTY AND THEIR ENGINEERS TO LOOK AT DRAINAGE TO IMPROVE HOW DRAINAGE MOVES ALONG.
WATTS, AS A SECOND PART TO THAT, THAT FIRST ONE WE CALL WATTS, WEST, WATTS EAST, THAT'S BUILDING OUT AND CONNECTING WATTS FROM KNIGHT OVER TO SHIPMAN'S COVE.
THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE A FOUR LANE BOULEVARD SECTION, VERY SIMILAR TO HOW WATTS LOOKS, UH, FROM
[00:45:01]
SHIPMAN'S UP TO HIGHWAY SIX RIGHT NOW.THAT'S, UH, PARK COUNTY PROJECT.
THERE'S A DEVELOPER THAT'S ACTUALLY BUILDING PART OF THAT ROAD WITH TOWN CENTER THREE RIGHT NOW, SAVING THE CITY AND THE COUNTY SOME MONEY AND INVESTMENT.
AND THAT'S GONNA HELP OPEN UP ALL OF THAT AREA FOR SOME OF THE LONG RANGE AND SHORT RANGE WORK THAT'S COMING IN.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE GOT.
SO, AND THIS IS, WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY TURN THIS BACK OVER TO YOU.
UM, SO HAVE DISCUSSION, UM, SO WE'RE NOT PRESENTING, PLEASE.
OH, UM, IT START TO HAVE THAT, UH, CONVERSATION.
JENNIFER, GO TO THE MIC, PLEASE.
AND WHAT WE HOPE TO, UM, ACHIEVE COMING OUT OF HERE IS TO FIND WHERE THOSE GAPS MIGHT BE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, PUT TOGETHER THAT PLAN TO BRING BACK, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION AND FOR, UH, THE COUNCIL ON THE NEXT STEPS.
UH, IF YOU CAN JUST STAY THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT AS WE OPEN UP DISCUSSIONS.
I'M SURE THERE'S SOME OF THIS, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS AND, AND STUFF THAT COME FROM PNZ AND AND FROM CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
SO, I GUESS MY ALWAYS, I'LL START OFF WITH THIS.
MY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN HOW DOES A PROJECT, UH, A PROSPECTIVE PROJECT OR, OR LOOKING TO DO BUSINESS, HOW, HOW DO THEY COME THROUGH AND HOW TO GET TO P AND Z AND HOW TO GET TO CITY COUNCIL.
CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THAT? WHO'S ALL IN THERE, UH, SUCH AS PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS AND THINGS OF THAT TYPE OF NATURE.
SO HOW DOES THAT OVERALL COME THROUGH IT? SURE.
SO I'M GONNA START WITH JUST THE PROCESS ITSELF.
BUT THEN I WANNA END WITH KIND OF THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THAT, UH, TO HELP WITH THAT DISCUSSION.
SO THE PROCESS ITSELF, SOMEONE, A PROPERTY OWNER DEVELOPER, UM, IS READY TO CONSTRUCT, READY TO BUILD ON THEIR PROPERTY.
IF IT'S A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PROJECT, THEN THEY WILL SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH, UH, CITY STAFF FOR A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING.
PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING BRINGS ALL OF US TOGETHER.
SO AS YOU CAN, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE ALL DIFFERENT, UH, PROFESSIONS AND DISCIPLINES THAT ARE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UM, SO THAT PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WILL HAVE A PLANNER, UM, OR A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING TEAM.
IT'LL HAVE THE, UH, ENGINEERING, UH, DIVISION.
IT'LL HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT'LL HAVE OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL OR REPRESENTATIVE HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL.
SO DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT IS, YOU'LL HAVE ALL OF THE TEAMS THAT THAT PROJECT MAY TOUCH OVER THE COURSE, UM, OF THEIR ACTIVITY.
THE GOAL OF THAT PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND TO, UH, GIVE THAT PERSON INFORMATION AS IT PERTAINS TO ADOPTED CITY CODE REGULATIONS.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS FOR THEM.
SO WHETHER IT'S A ZONING SITUATION, PLANNING SITUATION, PERMITTING SITUATION, UM, ANY OF THOSE ALONG THE WAY, THAT'S WHAT THAT MEETING, UM, IS GEARED TO DISCUSS.
AFTER THEY HAVE THAT MEETING, THEN THEY'RE READY FOR THEIR FIRST DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION.
AND AGAIN, DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT.
IF, UH, ZONING IS AN ISSUE, ZONING HAS TO BE DONE FIRST.
SO IF, AS THE COMMISSION, AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, ZONING IS PROPERTY RIGHTS.
SO EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY IN OUR CITY HAS A ZONING DISTRICT OR ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
SO IF I BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH AN INTENTION TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY FOR SPECIFIC USE, AND THAT USE IS NOT PERMITTED PER THAT ZONING, THE FIRST STEP THAT I'M DOING IS SEEKING TO AMEND THE ZONING.
ANYONE HAS RIGHTS TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, A PROPERTY OWNER HAS RIGHTS TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THAT APPLICATION GOES THROUGH PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, PUBLIC NOTICE PROCESS BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ADVISORY TO THE COUNCIL.
THE COUNCIL TAKES THE FINAL ACTION, UM, ON THAT APPLICATION.
THEY MOVE TO SUBDIVISION WHAT SUBDIVISION SUBDIVIDING LAND.
SO I KNOW THIS IS THE BOUNDARY OF MY PROPERTY.
I KNOW THE ENCUMBRANCE IS, I KNOW WHERE MY UTILITIES ARE GONNA BE LAID.
I KNOW WHERE RESERVATIONS FOR DETENTION OR DRAINAGE OR, UM, ANY OF THAT.
I KNOW WHAT MY BUILDABLE AREA IS.
ALL OF THAT IS BASED ON, UH, THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S IDENTIFIED AND ALL OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED FROM PLATTING.
ONCE PLAT IS IN PLACE, THEY MOVE TO PERMITTING, AND THEN PERMITTING BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, UH, STANDARDIZED ACROSS THE REGION, PERMITTING IN ACCORDANCE WITH ADOPTED BUILDING CODES, FIRE CODES, UM, ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED.
FROM THERE, WE MOVE TO INSPECTIONS.
AND THERE YOU MOVE TO GRAND OPENING.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROCESS.
BUT I WANNA BACK THAT UP BECAUSE THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION, ONCE IT GETS INTO THOSE KIND OF PHASING ON A STAFF LEVEL, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE WHAT THE ADOPTED CODES ARE.
SO AT THAT POINT, THE POLICY'S ALREADY BEEN CREATED.
WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THAT POLICY.
BUT THE STARTING POINT FOR THAT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AS THE COLLECTIVE COMBINED
[00:50:01]
POLICY FOR WHERE THE CITY WANTS TO GO.AND THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THEN INFORMS ZONING CHANGES ON THE TEXT THAT ARE THEN IMPLEMENTED THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS, THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, THROUGH, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
SO JUST TO, AND, AND THE PART OF THE REASON I'VE ASKED THAT, UH, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT PROCESS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES SOME OF OUR, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES RESIDENTS, THEY MAY NOT KNOW THIS TEDIOUS PROCESS THAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT YOU AS STAFF HAVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS AND, AND YOU GO THROUGH, UH, MAKING SURE THAT IT ALIGNS WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE CITIES, CITIES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THEN FROM THERE, UH, THAT YOU MOVE TO THE ZONING AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, OF COURSE, THE CITY, IT COMES TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO I JUST HAVE TWO FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS TO THAT.
WHEN I HEAR RESIDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THAT THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED, OR THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED TO, I, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT IN GENERAL RIGHT.
WHAT WE HEAR AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN, IN DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS OR PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT PEOPLE COME UP AND TALK ABOUT.
SO, CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW, AT WHAT POINT IN TIME, FROM PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING TO GOING TO PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, WHAT ARE THOSE STEPS? SURE, SURE.
AND SO NOW, SAY FOR THE NOTICE, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS.
SO YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS, YOU HAVE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT THAT'S PART OF THAT PROCESS.
UM, SO YOU CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF OUTREACH, DIFFERENT KIND OF ENGAGEMENT, DIFFERENT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, RECEIPT OF INFORMATION WHEN IT'S GOING THROUGH A ZONING PROCESS.
THERE ARE LEGISLATIVELY, UH, DICTATED TIMEFRAMES ON WHEN NOTIFICATION GOES OUT.
SO A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE NOT LINEAR.
UM, THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE STAFF MIGHT MEET WITH THEM IN PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, AND THEY MAY NOT SUBMIT THEIR FIRST DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION FOR ANOTHER YEAR, ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE FURTHER DOWN THE LINE ONCE THEY SUBMIT THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION ON A ZONING CASE, OR CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME PRIOR TO THE SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING, THAT NOTICE HAS TO BE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE.
AND PROPERTY OWNERS, IT'S NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL.
SO WHETHER A UTILITY OWNS PROPERTY, WHETHER ANOTHER PUBLIC ENTITY OWNS PROPERTY, WHETHER THE STATE OWNS PROPERTY, WHETHER A RESIDENCE OWNS PROPERTY, IT'S ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S WITHIN THE ESTABLISHED DISTANCE, THE STATE MANDATED DISTANCE IS A MINIMUM OF 200 FEET AROUND THE PERIMETER OF A PROPERTY.
TRADITIONALLY, THE CITY HAS GONE 250 FEET, AND WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE ADEQUACY OF THAT.
AND DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF APPLICATION IT IS, UM, WHAT WE ALSO DO IS WE POST A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY TO HELP GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THOSE THAT MIGHT MAY NOT GET A DIRECT MAILING.
THE OTHER WAY THAT NOTIFICATION GOES OUT IS IT'S PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER OF RECORD, WHICH THE NEWSPAPER OF RECORD NOW FOR THE CITY IS THE FORT BEND INDEPENDENT.
UM, AND SO NOTICES ARE PUBLISHED IN THE FORT BEND, INDEPENDENT AHEAD OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A REQUESTED ZONING CASE.
SO IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT, YOU SAID THERE'S THREE STEPS THAT YOU TAKE.
ONE IS, UH, MAILING OUT TO 200 FEET.
AND SECOND IS IF IT'S ZONING, CLEARLY, IF IT'S ZONING, THERE'S A STATE LAW REQUIRES US TO FOLLOW THAT LAW.
SO, AND THEN THE THIRD PROCESS I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS IF YOU GO TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE A BIG SIGN, IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE A CAMPAIGN SIGN SIZE, UH, 48 BY 48 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S THREE WAY OF NO NOTIFYING OR FOR PEOPLE FINDING OUT WHAT IT IS.
ONE QUESTION THAT I GUESS I WANT TO CLEAR UP BEFORE I YIELD MY TIME IS HOW MUCH TIME BEFORE THAT YOU PUT THAT OUT THERE? SO, IN, IN QUESTION IS, EARLIER IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE HEARD THAT IT, SOMETHING CAME OUT ON FRIDAY, AND THEN IT, IT'S PLANNING AND ZONING WERE TO MEET, YOU KNOW, SO I'M LOOKING AT THAT, LIKE, BASED ON ZONING MM-HMM.
SO BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, MAIL NOTICES GOES OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 250 FEET ABOUT 11 DAYS PRIOR TO THAT PUBLIC HEARING DATE.
SO IT'S PUT INTO THE MAIL ABOUT 11 DAYS BEFORE.
WHEN THOSE NOTICES ARE PUT INTO THE MAIL, IS WHEN THE SIGN IS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING IS USUALLY ABOUT A MONTH FOLLOWING THAT.
SO THE MAILED NOTICE WILL REFERENCE THE DATE, THE TIME OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN ALSO REFERENCE THAT A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, UM, WOULD BE SCHEDULED BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO THE COMMUNICATION THAT GOES OUT IS, THERE ARE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WILL BE HELD REGARDING
[00:55:01]
ANY ZONING AMENDMENT CASE ONE BEFORE THE PLANNING OF ZONING, ONE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.SO THAT'S THE COMMUNICATION THAT GO, THAT GOES OUT FOR THAT.
YOU, YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING THAT REMINDED ME TOO.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT ZONING FOR A PROPERTY, UH, RIGHT, SOMEONE BOUGHT, IF THAT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR DOES NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT IN THAT, IN THAT PARTICULAR SPOT AT THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, WHAT IS, WHAT HAPPENS THERE? SO TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE CONVEYED.
AND SO, SAY AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE COMES AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I'M, I HAVE THIS PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT, OR I'M LOOKING TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY, OR I'VE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY AND THIS IS THE ONLY THING I WANT TO DO, AND THE ZONING DOESN'T ALLOW FOR IT.
THEN THEY WOULD BE ADVISED ON WHAT THE ZONING AMENDMENT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.
AND THERE'S A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS TO THAT.
SO JUST LIKE I DESCRIBED JUST KIND OF THE OVERALL PROCESS, STAFF WOULD GO OVER THE OVERALL PROCESS.
THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD DO, POINT, POINT, POINT, POINT.
IF THERE'S ISSUES OR CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED OR RAISED, THEN THAT MIGHT BE SHARED WITH THEM TOO, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT IS.
UM, SO SOMETIMES IT'S CONVEYED, IT MAY NOT BE AN EASY, YOU KNOW, UH, PROCESS, UH, TO GO THROUGH.
IT'S ALWAYS CONVEYED THAT IT'S NOT A GUARANTEED PROCESS.
SO JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS AN IDEA THAT THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND JUST BECAUSE THEY MAKE AN APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE ZONING, DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT RESULTS IN THE PROPERTY BEING REZONED.
SO THEY'RE ADVICE OF THAT FULL, YOU KNOW, GOES THROUGH PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, AND GOES THROUGH THAT, THAT PROCESS.
I YIELD MY TIME BACK IF ANYBODY WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OR SO GO, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, UH, FOR MAKING SURE THAT THIS MEETING HAPPENED.
UH, IT'S LONG OVERDUE, UH, WELCOME COMMISSIONERS.
UH, AND, UH, I THINK THAT I'VE COME BEFORE YOU GUYS, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN THE PAST.
UH, I THINK MY, MY, UH, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS CENTER AROUND OUR CURRENT, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL AS OUR CURRENT ZONING.
UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT OUR ZONING WAS 84.
OR DID SOME, ANY MODIFICATIONS OR WAS IT, WELL, IT'S A FULL WHOLESALE UPDATED ZONING.
SO, ZONING, ZONING, ESTABLISHED MISSOURI CITY IN 1981.
THERE'S BEEN MODIFICATIONS, AMENDMENTS, YOU KNOW, TO DIFFERENT AREAS.
UM, BUT NOT A WHOLE, WHOLE ALLY 1981.
SO, AND SO WE'VE BEEN OPERATING OFF OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BASED OFF OF THE ZONING FROM 1981.
AND SO I GUESS THE, THE POINT THAT I WAS GONNA MAKE AND QUESTIONS I WAS GONNA RAISE TO THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT LEAVES THEM IN A POSITION TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED OFF OF, YES, WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THEY'RE LEFT TO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS AND, AND BASICALLY BASED OFF OF PERSONAL GUT FEEL OR MAYBE THE, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL PROVIDE THEM BASED OFF OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT DO YOU ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT 1981 WAS THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT ZONING AND YOU GUYS GET PRESENTED WITH THESE OP OP OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE DECISIONS, UH, ON, ON, UH, REZONING OPPORTUNITIES? YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU ALL, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT IT.
I CAN MAKE A MILLENNIAL JOKE WITH THAT DATE YOU PUT OUT, BUT I'LL JUST SAY, NO, THE COMFORT LEVEL IS NOT ADEQUATE GIVEN WHERE WE'RE AT.
I, UM, I'M GONNA TAKE THIS TIME TO ASK THE QUESTION AS WELL.
SO HOPEFULLY I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
BUT PART OF MY COMFORT LEVEL WOULD INCREASE, GOING BACK TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS ON NOTICES.
UM, IS THERE ROOM, AND THIS ANSWERS PART OF THE GAP QUESTION AS WELL.
COULD WE ADDRESS, UM, HOW WE'RE PUTTING OUT NOTICES TO CONSTITUENTS? AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU MENTIONED A PUBLICATION ON RECORD.
IT'S THE IN FORT BEND INDEPENDENT, THAT'S A NEWSPAPER, IT'S A LEGACY MEDIA.
IS THERE WAYS THAT WE COULD EXPAND THAT, AT LEAST ANOTHER PUBLICATION OR SOCIAL MEDIA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER, I'LL JUST, I'LL STOP FOR THERE FROM THERE.
'CAUSE I DEVIATED FROM WHAT HE WAS SAYING, BUT OKAY.
NOTICES IS, IS A GAP, AND THEN I PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN JUST GENERAL FEELING IS, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO UPDATE IT AND HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WOULD WORK FOR TODAY'S TERMS FOR TODAY'S MISSOURI CITY THAT'LL HELP PLANNING AND ZONING MAKE BETTER DECISIONS.
'CAUSE BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE OPERATING OFF OF ZONING FROM 1981, UH, AND AS WELL AS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT, UH, WE, I GUESS WHAT NOW I'M GOING ON SIX YEARS.
AND I DO WANNA KIND OF INTERJECT ON THAT.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT ALL, SO NOT ALL OF THE LAND THAT WAS ZONED IN 1981 HAS BEEN UNTOUCHED SINCE 81.
WE HAVE POCKETS, WE HAVE SOME THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE IT WAS EITHER INEX OF THE CITY AND ZONED, OR FROM 81, UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED.
[01:00:01]
BUT WHAT I WOULD PUT ON THE FLOOR IS IN THAT THE CITY IN THE EIGHTIES DID SEVERAL CITY INITIATED ZONING ACTIONS.SO YOU HAD THE INITIAL ESTABLISHMENT OF ZONING THAT WAS CITY INITIATED.
SO IT WASN'T A DEVELOPER THAT CAME TO THE CITY AND SAID, I WANNA BUILD HOMES ON THIS PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE ZONING THAT SUPPORTS GOING TOWARDS THAT PLAN.
THE CITY WENT AWAY FROM CITY INITIATED ZONING IN THE EIGHTIES AND BASICALLY NINETIES TO PRESENT.
SO SOMEBODY HAS A PROJECT THAT THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, TO DO, THEY'RE STILL WORKING, YOU KNOW, WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, DIFFERENT POLICIES.
IT MAY BE IN LINE, YOU KNOW, WITH PRIORITIES, BUT GENERALLY THE CITY DOESN'T GO IN AND INITIATE THAT ZONING ACTION.
WE WAIT FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE TO MAKE THAT ZONING APPLICATION.
SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON, ON THE, THE FLOOR.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 43 YEARS AGO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS CITY INITIATED, UH, ZONING AND WE HAVE ALLOWED THE DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND DICTATE, YOU KNOW, AND PUT PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE COUNCIL IN THE, IN THE POSITION OF HAVING TO PICK WINNERS AND LOSES.
AND I GUESS THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT COMFORT OR, UH, HOW YOU ALL FEEL WHEN THESE, UH, THESE DEALS COMING FOR YOU.
UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT IF WE AS A COUNCIL COLLECTIVELY AND STAFF SAY THIS IS WHERE WE'RE, WHAT WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOOK LIKE AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT WITH THE REMAINING PARCELS OF LAND THAT, THAT HERMAN TALKED, SORRY.
I FELT LIKE MY VOICE WAS BIG, BIG ENOUGH.
UM, THAT HERMAN TALKED ABOUT BEING LEFT, UH, 300, 400 SOME ODD, UH, PARCELS THEN, UM, IT, IT, IT TELLS US, IT TELLS THE, THE COMMISSION AND IT TELLS CURRENT AND FUTURE COUNCIL AND STAFF, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOOK LIKE.
SO IF SOMETHING COMES BEFORE THE, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEY CAN LOOK TO AN UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES REVISED ZONING AND KNOW THAT, YEAH, OKAY, THIS DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO THIS.
HOWEVER, COUNCILS THE CITY HAS BEEN CLEAR ON HOW WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE VARIOUS PARCEL OF LAND.
SO THAT'S WHY I POSE THE QUESTION.
SO
AND MAYBE PERHAPS CITY MANAGER, YOU CAN CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT TOO.
THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT IS ZONING AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TWO COMPONENTS, BUT THEY MIX WELL TOGETHER.
SO YOUR ZONING DICTATES TO WHAT IN THAT AREA TO BE DEVELOPED.
BUT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH HOW OFTEN WE DO THAT, FIVE YEARS EVERY 4, 5, 6, 5, WHAT IS IT? SO, SO THE OUTLOOK OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAN BE DECADES, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE CONSTANTLY REVIEWED SURE.
TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STILL CONSISTENT.
SO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SO, CITY MANAGER THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT, THAT'S A TOOL FOR YOU AS WELL FOR CITY COUNCIL AS TO WHAT THE CITY SHOULD LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW WITHIN THAT, WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
IF THERE ARE ZONING CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE TO RETROFIT THAT WHENEVER THAT COUNCIL'S VISION, WHOEVER IS ON COUNCIL, THAT VISION COLLECTIVELY AS A GROUP, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE GO IN AND SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT WE NEEDED TO SHAPE IT UP.
AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT OR WRONG? YOU, YEAH, YOU ARE.
AND WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT, 'CAUSE LIKE EVEN, SO HERMAN TALKED ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT PIECE, RIGHT? SO IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT CREATED BASICALLY A FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY THAT PROVIDED FLEXIBILITY FOR OUR REDEVELOPMENT AREAS, OUR ZONING DISTRICTS DIDN'T CHANGE.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IS IF SOME, A DEVELOPER COMES AND WANTS TO DEVELOP A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THEY MIGHT GET A FAVORABLE LOOK FROM THE POLICY AND THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A ZONING PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT HAS THAT POLICY, THEN YOU CREATE AN OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT'S SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, TO THOSE REGULATIONS.
SO THEN YOU REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A DEVELOPER WHEN THEY'RE READY TO DEVELOP, OR THE CITY'S INITIATING DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA FROM HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT ZONING AMENDMENT PROCESS.
IT'S ALREADY IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTED THROUGH ZONING.
SO IF I HEAR YOU SAY IT RIGHT, IS ANYONE WALKING THROUGH THAT DOOR TO THE CITY HALL OR TO YOUR OFFICE THAT WANTING TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT, RIGHT? SO YOU GOT ZONING, YOU GOT COMPREHENSIVE
[01:05:01]
PLAN, RIGHT? YOU LOOK AT THOSE TWO AND SAY, DOES THIS EVEN MATCH UP TO WHAT WE WANTING TO DO OR WHAT THE CITY'S DIRECTION OR THE FUTURE SHOULD LOOK LIKE? AND IF IT'S NOT THE VISION, I SHOULD SAY, IF AN, IF IT'S NOT, THEN THAT RIGHT THERE, IT, IT, IT GOES BACK TO THAT PERSON AND SAYING THAT, WELL, THIS IS NOT WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR, OR IN THAT PARTICULAR, UH, AREA OR IN THAT SPOT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.SO, SO THE DAY-TO-DAY, WHAT STAFF IS LOOKING AT IS ZONING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING DAY TO DAY.
SO THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS IF A CITY ADOPTS ZONING, IT HAS TO BE, YOU CAN'T ADOPT ZONING IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT IT'S SAYING IS, IS YOU CAN'T BE ARBITRARY AND OKAY, YOU'RE GOOD, BUT YOU'RE NOT.
SO YOU CREATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GIVE YOURSELF THAT VISION AND THEN ZONING IMPLEMENTS WHAT THAT VISION IS.
SO DAY TO DAY IT WOULD BE ZONING, ANY PROPERTY OWNER CAN, CAN SUBMIT TO REQUEST TO CHANGE IT AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO CHANGE IT.
BUT ON THE CITY SIDE, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M ENCOURAGED WITH EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, HERE AT THE TABLE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY SAYS AT ALL LEVELS IN ALL OF ITS PLANS, ALL OF ITS MASTER PLAN AND ITS BUDGET PROCESS, ALL OF THAT SHOULD CONVEY WHAT THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS ESTABLISHED.
SO WHERE THE, THE CITY PUTS ITS RESOURCES, WHETHER WHERE IT PUTS ITS INVESTMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S PUTTING, YOU KNOW, ITS UTILITY INVESTMENTS, IT'S BUSINESS RECRUITMENT, ALL OF THAT, ALL OF THAT SHOULD SAY THE SAME THING IN ADDITION TO THE DEVELOPMENT TOOLS.
AND IF WE WERE NO, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
IF I MAY REALLY QUICKLY, THEY'LL POINT OUT THAT THE, THE CITY'S ORDINANCES DO PROVIDE FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE NATURE OR CHARACTER OF AN AREA IS CHANGING FASTER THAN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP LANGUAGE IS OFTEN INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE TO CAPTURE THE CHANGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE THE TWO WERE NOT ALWAYS CONSISTENT.
THAT, THAT, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION.
IS PART OF THE, UM, THE ISSUE THAT YOU'VE SEEN JUST, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVELY COMMENTING, A LOT OF TIMES THE REQUESTS THAT ARE PUT BEFORE US AS A COMMISSION IS TO CHANGE A CERTAIN ZONE FOR, FOR BUILDING WHATEVER IT IS.
SO I, I THINK, AND, AND SO THIS IS MY QUESTION PART OF THAT, NOW, KNOWING ABOUT THE CITY ORDINANCE PART, IS THAT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BEING, UH, NOT, NOT, UH, GROWING AS FAST OR HAVING ENOUGH ROOM TO GROW AS FAST AS THE WELL, I THINK SO THOSE ARE FLAGS, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, SO TYPICALLY LIKE ON THE PROFESSIONAL SIDE, WHAT WE WOULD SAY, IF YOU'RE GETTING SEVERAL ZONING CASES THAT ARE REQUESTING, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING OR A SERIES OF THINGS, THEN IT MAY BE TIME TO REEVALUATE WHAT THE CODE IS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GETTING SEVERAL CASES WHERE PEOPLE WON'T NEED VARIANCES, YOU KNOW, TO DO SOMETHING, THEN IT'S A FLAG TO SAY THAT SOMETHING MAY NOT BE CONNECTED.
AND YOU NEED TO REEVALUATE THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CAN BE, BE USED TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT ONTO THE COMMISSION TO GO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE FOUR CORRIDORS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
YOU KNOW, SO THE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THESE FAST GROWING AREAS ARE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN ON A FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE AREA PLANS ON THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS.
SO WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE COLLECTIVE COMBINED, YOU KNOW, VISION, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO THE OVERALL GOALS OF BALANCING THE TAX BASE, YOU KNOW, OF, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING AMENITIES, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEN WOULD BE ANALYZED AND LOOKED AT A POLICY CREATED GOALS CREATED, PRIORITIES CREATED, AND THEN LOOKING AT THE ZONING ORDINANCES AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT TOOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN LINE WITH THAT.
I THINK CITY MANAGER, YOUR ANSWER? NO, I, I THINK, UM, JENNIFER COVERED IT PRETTY WELL AS WELL AS EJO.
I, I THINK THE ONLY OTHER PIECE THAT I WOULD ADD IS DOING ALL THIS, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE TIMEFRAME THAT HAS EXISTED IN TERMS OF FOCUSING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, WE ARE DEALING WITH THINGS PIECEMEAL, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS HOLISTICALLY, UH, NOT ONLY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO HOW CAN WE SERVE IT FROM A UTILITIES PERSPECTIVE, FROM A ROAD CONSTRUCTION PERSPECTIVE.
SO ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND BUILT INTO OUR OVERALL PLAN FOR HOW WE DEVELOP.
AND OF COURSE, AS, AS, AS I'M QUICKLY FINDING OUT THE PHILOSOPHY OF MISSOURI CITY, 80, I MEAN, IN 20 YEARS AGO, IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THAT PHILOSOPHY NOW.
AND SO THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO THE EQUATION BECAUSE AS WE TALK ABOUT TRYING TO DIVERSIFY
[01:10:01]
THE TAX BASE, NOT RELYING ON RESIDENTS OR PROPERTY TAXES, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT MANY OTHER OPTIONS.SALES TAXES IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD GO TO.
AND SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND HOW DO WE DO THAT IN A WAY THAT RESPECTS THE VALUES THIS COMMUNITY HAS SAFETY CAPACITY, ALL OF THAT.
AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD.
BUT I THINK JENNIFER, YES, SIR.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER COUNCIL MEMBER BON'S QUESTION A LITTLE BIT FOR MYSELF.
UM, I WOULD SAY I'M GETTING MORE COMFORTABLE.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LITTLE OVER A YEAR.
I, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CITY STAFF REALLY PROVIDES US, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ZONING CHANGES, IS THEY DO THE ANALYSIS FOR HOW THAT ZONING CHANGE DOES OR DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE LAND USE THAT'S SITTING OUT THERE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I GOT THE LITTLE SPIRAL ROUND BOOK, AND I GO TO THE, THE MAPS ONLINE TRYING TO LEARN MY WAY THROUGH IT.
THE ONE THING I WILL SAY WHERE I'M PROBABLY MOST UNCOMFORTABLE IS THE BALANCING OF THE, UH, UM, I'M TRYING, NOT THE WORD I'M TRYING TO USE, BUT, BUT, UH, DIVERSIFYING THE TAX BASE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
I WILL SAY ALSO, I WATCH AS STUFF COMES THROUGH US AND ENDS UP AT CITY COUNCIL, I'LL WATCH THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS TO SEE WHAT CITY COUNCIL TALKS ABOUT.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S HELPFUL AT LEAST FOR ME.
UM, JENNIFER, UH, AND STAFF, UH, THANK EVERYBODY AND IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS.
SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS GOING.
UM, AND FOR A LONG TIME THAT I SERVED ON THE COMMISSION, I ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THAT I COULD UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WERE EXPECTING OF US.
SO IT'S REALLY ALSO GOOD TO HEAR YOUR, UH, FEEDBACK AS WELL.
SO I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND I'M HOPING THAT IT'LL TURN INTO DIALOGUE.
EARLIER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FOUR CORRIDORS IN 2017.
WHAT WERE THOSE CORRIDORS AND HOW DO YOU SEE THAT THOSE CORRIDORS HAVE CHANGED AS OF TODAY? VERY GOOD.
SO, UH, FOUR CORRIDORS, TEXAS PARKWAY FROM HIGHWAY 90 TO TURTLE CREEK, CAR RIDE ROAD FROM TEXAS PARKWAY TO FM 10 92, FM 10 92 FROM CARTRIGHT NORTH TO THE CITY LIMITS.
AND THEN THE FORT BEND, UH, PARKWAY CORRIDOR, UM, BASICALLY FROM LAKE OLYMPIA TO SIENNA PARKWAY.
AND ALL OF THAT, THAT I HEARD YOU SAY, DOES THAT ALSO ENCOMPASS THE FORT BEND TOLL ROAD? SO IN THE AREA WHERE IT INTERSECTS AT HIGHWAY SIX.
SO IT INCLUDES THAT AREA WHERE THE FORT BEND TOWN CENTER, TWO, THREE, UM, ARE STARTING TO BE DEVELOPED.
FORT BEND TOWN CENTER TWO A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG.
UM, IT INCLUDES THAT INTERSECTION.
IN TERMS OF THE ZONING BEING ESTABLISHED BACK IN 19 80, 81, 84, WHATEVER IT IS, WE HAVE OFTEN SEEN WHERE APPLICANTS DO COME IN AND THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE ZONING IS.
AND BEFORE WE KNOW IT, IT'S ALREADY ON THE GROUND, IT'S UP AND RUNNING, AND PEOPLE ARE ANGRY AND UPSET.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE IN THE PAST, DOES THE CITY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO INITIATE ZONING? YES.
UM, I GUESS THIS WOULD PROBABLY MORE BE MORE SO A QUESTION FOR LEGAL IN TERMS OF THE CITY INITIATING ZONING.
UM, ARE THERE CERTAIN RISK THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BE FACED WITH? YES.
UH, I DON'T WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND YOU.
SHE WAS GETTING READY TO GET ME, SO, OKAY, THANK YOU.
AND THAT MAY BE PROBABLY WHY WE HAVE NOT INITIATED AS MANY, UM, ZONINGS AS WE POSSIBLY COULD, BUT THAT IS AN OPTION.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO GOOD TO KNOW IN TERMS OF ZONING, JENNIFER, CONSIDERING THAT WE DO HAVE SOME AREAS THAT ARE ZONED SO OLD, AND YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME BEFORE US ASKING FOR LAND TO BE REZONED IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN WE DO COLLECTIVELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET REALLY GOOD ZONING OR THAT WE GET THINGS THAT THE CITY NEEDS AS IT STATES INSIDE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE THE BETTER ZONING STRUCTURE FOR US TO GO WITH.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, TOO, UH, THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, BEFORE ON JUST KIND OF THE AGE OF ZONING, YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, TO REVIEW THE ZONING DISTRICTS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT HOW MISSOURI CITY, UH, DOES ITS ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, IT DOES ALLOW FOR A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, UM, AS OPPOSED TO SOME COMMUNITIES THAT I, UM, THEY ADOPT
[01:15:01]
LIKE THE CENSUS LAND USE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MATRIX.AND THERE'S PROS AND CONS, YOU KNOW, TO EITHER WAY OF DOING THAT.
UM, THERE'S ALSO SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'VE HAD PORTIONS OF LAND THAT HAVE BEEN CARVED OUT OF A LARGER PORTION THAT HAS BEEN ZONED A CERTAIN WAY WITH THE DEVELOPER'S EXPECTATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROXIMITY OF THIS IS GOING TO TRIGGER, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN TYPES OF LAND USES TO GO IN.
SO WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS, FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ZONING, ZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND, ZONING IS PROPERTY RIGHTS.
SO ZONING IS NOT, YOU KNOW, PROJECT SPECIFIC.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A ZONING ACTION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THAT PROPERTY, WHAT, WHAT'S SURROUNDING THAT PROPERTY, WHAT COULD BE SURROUNDING THAT PROPERTY, AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT PIECE, UM, IS SITUATED WITHIN OUR LARGER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PRIORITIES.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE DO NEED TO REEVALUATE OUR ZONING DISTRICTS FOR THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE DEVELOPED WHERE YOU HAD A BUILDER THAT WAS SOLELY CONCENTRATED ON BUILDING A SPECIFIC PRODUCT.
THEY BUILT THAT SPECIFIC PRODUCT AND THEY LEFT THIS PORTION OUT.
UM, AND THAT PORTION HAS A ZONING DESIGNATION.
UM, SO WE NEED TO REEVALUATE THOSE KINDS OF SITUATIONS.
UM, BUT WHOLESALE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT IT SO NARROW WHERE IT'S, IT'S NOT BUSINESS SPECIFIC.
WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ZONING.
WE'RE NOT SAYING WE WANT THIS BUSINESS, BUT NOT THIS BUSINESS.
WE'RE SAYING THE CHARACTERISTICS OF HOW YOU USE THE LAND ARE APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION AND APPROPRIATE AT ANY DIS YOU KNOW, ANY LAND THAT HAS THAT SAME ZONING, UM, CLASSIFICATION.
'CAUSE THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT, UH, TALKING POINT.
SO ZONING IS EXACTLY JUST THAT.
IT IS NOT ABOUT THE ACTUAL BUILDING OR BUSINESS THAT'S GONNA GO ON THE LAND.
SO OFTENTIMES I HEAR RESIDENTS COME AND THEY'RE COM YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STATING THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT YOU'RE CHANGING THIS TO BRING IN A TRADER JOE'S AND DA DA DA DA.
BUT IS IT REALLY ABOUT THE TRADER JOE'S AS MUCH AS IT IS ABOUT THE ZONING? CAN YOU TALK TO US IN REGARDS TO THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND I'M A FAN OF TRADER JOE'S
SO ON THE ZONING SIDE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY FOR THE CITY, WE, YOU HAVE ALL, YOU KNOW, TOOLS THAT YOU PUT INTO PLAY TO MANIFEST THE VISION, RIGHT? SO FOR THE ZONING SIDE, THE ZONING TOOL IS THE LAND USE, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO HOUSTON WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THE CERTAINTY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS MANUFACTURING COMPANY, YOU KNOW, IS GOING TO BUILD RIGHT NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROPERTY, WHATEVER YOU'RE USING YOUR PROPERTY FOR, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF CERTAINTY.
THAT'S WHAT ZONING CAN PROVIDE.
IT DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE THE BUSINESS THAT OCCUPIES THE SPACE, BUT IT CAN PROVIDE CERTAINTY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE OUTDOOR SPACE, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING, PROXIMITY OF ONE BUILDING TO ANOTHER.
IT CAN PROVIDE THOSE KINDS OF CERTAINTY THAT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD HELP YOUR INVESTMENT IN YOUR PROPERTY FOR WHATEVER YOU'RE USING YOUR PROPERTY FOR TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT MAY BE DEVELOPED ON THE OTHER PROPERTY.
MAYOR, I JUST HAVE THREE MORE
AFTER WE HAVE VICE CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE MAYOR
AND I'M HOPING THESE QUESTIONS ARE FOR EVERYBODY.
UH, SO AGAIN, SO ZONING'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, SO, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE ATTEMPT IN CONVEYING INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THAT ACTION ZONING'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, IT RUNS WITH THE LAND.
SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU ZONE A PIECE OF PROPERTY A CERTAIN WAY THAT IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED THAT WAY IN A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE CASES WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY THAT ATTENDED TO GO, YOU KNOW, ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THEY ZONED IT FOR THAT PURPOSE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, AND THEY'VE SINCE SOLD THE PROPERTY AND NO LONGER HAVE THAT INTENTION TO DEVELOP IT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
UM, SO THERE ARE GROUPS THAT WILL COME AND SEEK TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
SO THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF IT DOES NOT DIE, IT DOESN'T EXPIRE PER SE.
THERE ARE CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, CASES WE HAVE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, UM, WHICH IS A ZONING.
UM, BUT IT IS ALSO, IT'S, IT'S PERMISSION TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR THAT SPECIFIED USE.
[01:20:01]
REQUIRE THAT IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS, THERE'S CERTAIN EXPIRATIONS THAT CAN BE PLACED ON THAT, BUT USE DISTRICTS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS OR ZONING THAT RUNS WITH THE LAND.AND THEN THIS'LL BE MY, UH, LAST, LAST THING.
UM, IN TERMS OF TRYING TO SHAPE OUR CITY SO THAT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO GET CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES, BECAUSE MAYBE WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH OF THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES, UM, THE STAFF OR ANYBODY HAVE ANY TYPES OF RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE COLLECTIVELY CAN, CAN DO THAT, BRING IT UP,
UM, SO, AND, AND WE'RE AWARE, UM, OF SOME WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD, UM, SOME ACTIONS ON SOME, UH, GIVING KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ON THAT.
THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT MAY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT MAY, UM, UH, TEND TO CLUSTER IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT YOU WANT TO USE YOUR DEVELOPMENT TOOLS, UM, TO EITHER PUT REGULATIONS ON IN TERMS OF DISTANCES AWAY, BUFFERS AWAY, OR, UH, CAPPING THE NUMBER, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA.
SO THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES LIKE THAT, UM, UH, WHAT WE CALL CREDIT ACCESS BUSINESSES OR TITLE, UM, COMPANIES ARE ONE, UH, THAT, UH, THE CITY ADOPTED REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA.
UM, AND THEN CERTAIN PROVISIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO, UM, PROVIDE IN ORDER TO BE PERMITTED IN CERTAIN AREAS.
UM, UH, MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS.
SO WORKS WITH THE FORT BEND COUNTY DA'S OFFICE ON REGULATIONS FOR THAT.
SO THERE'S CERTAIN PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH, UM, A NEW FACILITY.
UM, SO THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN USE THOSE TOOLS TO THAT EFFECT.
UM, WHAT YOU DON'T WANNA DO, BECAUSE WHAT THE CITY DOESN'T DO IS PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS, UM, IN THE MARKET.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE PHENOMENON OF WHEN WALGREENS AND CVS WOULD GO CORNER TO CORNER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE, THE COUNTRY.
YOU HAD BANKS, UM, OVER NEAR SUGARLAND TOWN CENTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN CHASE BANK HAD A LOCATION ON THREE OF THE FOUR CORNERS, YOU KNOW, THAT INTERSECTION, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF IF IT'S A USE THAT, UM, IS NOT CREATING, YOU KNOW, HARM OR A NUISANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN YOU MAY NOT WANNA RESTRICT IT DOWN TO THAT LEVEL BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO CREATE THOSE WINNERS, LOSERS IN THE MARKET, UM, AND, AND RAISE PRICES ON OTHER, YOU KNOW, PIECES OF PLAN.
BUT, UM, ONCE THAT YOU'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH, YOU CAN LOOK AT, UM, CERTAIN TOOLS, UM, TO ADDRESS THAT.
COULD ONE, CAN I COMMENT TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THERE? SURE.
COULD ONE OF THOSE TOOLS BE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF IT'S REVISED HOWEVER OFTEN, FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT? MM-HMM.
I THINK CITY COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO PUT THEIR IDEAS OF WHAT THEY WANT THE CITY TO BE IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S NOT A LEGAL BINDING DOCUMENT, IT'S A GUIDE, IT'S A SET OF PRINCIPLES AND IDEAS TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER.
AND WE ENTRUSTED YOU ALL TO DO THAT.
I, I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE FIRST MEETING WE HAVE FOR WHATEVER INPUT COMMISSION, UH, THE P AND Z COMMISSION CAN PUT IN.
I'D LIKE TO OFFER THAT, BUT I, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR GUIDEPOSTS INTO PUTTING IN THE KIND OF BUSINESSES WE WANT TO SEE.
I'D SUPPORT YOU IN IT, MR. DAVIDSON.
I'M TELLING YOU, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH THIS.
UM, IS OUR BURNING DESIRE TO GET IT ON PAPER.
UM, THERE ARE SOME, THERE IS SOME OF OUR DESIRE INSIDE OF THE CURRENT PLAN, BUT GETTING IT UPDATED IS SO CRITICAL FOR US RIGHT NOW AT THIS POINT.
FOR ME, GAPS, UM, JUST, JUST IN THIS DIALOGUE IS I REALLY WANT US TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE RECOGNIZE EARLIER THAT THERE IS A NEED, YOU KNOW, TO PLACE MORATORIUMS ON CERTAIN BUSINESSES AND NOT JUST SAYING THAT, OH, WE KNOW, WE KNOW, WE KNOW, BUT WE, WE'VE GOTTA GET US TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE PULLING THAT TRIGGER SOONER.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS WE GET STRESSED TOO, AND SOMETIMES WE'RE TRYING TO RELAX ON A WEEKEND, BUT THEN OUR EMAILS ARE LOADED UP WITH PHOTOGRAPHS OF E-CIGARETTE SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE MEDIANS AND, YOU KNOW, VAPE SHOP IS NOW OPEN AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.
AND SO IF WE KNOW THAT CERTAIN THINGS ARE COMING BEFORE US AND IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S OVERSATURATED, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO COME IN IMMEDIATELY AND ADDRESS THOSE THINGS INSTEAD OF WAITING.
AND IT'S, AND AND IT'S FRUSTRATING TO, TO
[01:25:01]
BE HONEST WITH YOU, UM, IN TERMS OF US UNDERSTANDING WHAT LAND IS LEFT.THANK YOU HERMAN, FOR PROVIDING THAT TO US.
WE'VE BEEN KIND OF WAITING ON THAT INFORMATION FOR A LONG TIME.
AND IF THE NEED IS RIGHT NOW FOR US TO DETERMINE WHAT LAND IS LEFT, WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE ZONED AS, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY, I'LL YIELD MAYOR.
I'M GONNA GO TO, UH, OUR WISE CHAIR.
JENNIFER, YOU'RE AN AMAZING TEACHER.
I'VE RELIED ON YOU FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AT TEACHING US THIS MATERIAL.
UM, WHEN YOU PRESENT A PROJECT AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION BASED ON ONE OF THE CRITERIA.
IF IT GOES IN LINE WITH THE OVERALL PLAN FOR THE CITY, IS THAT APPLIED? HER PROPERTY, MEANING THIS PROPERTY FALLS IN LINE WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE, THE PROJECT ITSELF, LIKE MULTIFAMILY.
IF A MULTIFAMILY, WE NEED MORE DIVERSIFIED HOUSING AND IT SAYS IT FALLS IN LINE WITH THE CONFERENCE PLAN.
IS IT PROPERTY SPECIFIC THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING? AND I, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
'CAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT SITUATION, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
WITH, WITH CERTAIN LAND USES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN VOCALIZED AS PRIORITIES.
UM, WHEN YOU HAVE A, A RECOMMENDATION ON A SPECIFIC ZONING CASE.
IT'S AN ANALYSIS OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS LOOKING AT THAT ZONING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHAT THE GOALS ARE IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN HAS IDENTIFIED IT AS.
UM, AND THEN ADDING, YOU KNOW, UM, THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, ON UTILITY PROVISION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT IS VERY PROPERTY SPECIFIC.
WHEN YOU HAVE THAT RECOMMENDATION IN PLACE, YOU MAY HAVE SOME ANALYSIS WHERE IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THERE FROM A A RECOMMENDATION STANDPOINT, YOU MAY HAVE, THIS MEETS A GOAL.
UM, BUT THERE'S A CHALLENGE HERE.
THERE'S A CHALLENGE WITH UTILITIES.
THERE'S A CHALLENGE 'CAUSE IT'S WETLANDS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHALLENGE 'CAUSE IT'S THE FLOODWAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THERE, THERE MAY BE SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU MADE A RECOMMENDATION BASED UPON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU FEEL NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND CHANGED
I I DON'T, I CAN'T QUANTIFY THAT RIGHT HERE.
BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WHAT WE, WE WOULD TRY TO DO IS TO COMMUNICATE, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE IS, UM, A GAP THERE.
SO I, I GIVE, 'CAUSE IT WAS A SEGUE I WANTED TO PUT ON THE TABLE ANYWAY, CIVIC USES SCHOOLS, CHURCHES.
UM, WE'VE HAD THOSE COME BEFORE US.
AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SILENT WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE CIVIC USES.
BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USES THAT ARE DESIRED, AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BALANCING, YOU KNOW, UM, OR MAXIMIZING THE LAND USE AVAILABLE, THAT'S PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT IT COMES WITH IT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL INHABIT IT, THE PEOPLE WHO WILL USE IT ALSO NEED PLACES THAT THEY CAN EXPRESS THEIR FAITH OR EXPRESS THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT IS.
EDUCATE, YOU KNOW, THEIR CHILDREN.
THOSE ARE USUALLY NOT TAX PAYING USES.
SO THAT, THOSE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE TO BALANCE.
WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC GOAL.
THERE'S AN APPLICATION BEFORE US.
HOW DO YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT? AND SO TO ME THAT'S A GAP I WOULD PUT OUT THERE.
UM, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, VERY CLEAR QUESTIONS ON WHAT ARE THE MEASURES THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE GOOD LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE TYPES OF LAND USES.
SO THAT IS PART OF THE PACKAGE.
AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE USES THAT ARE DESIRABLE, WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL USES, THE JOB CREATORS, YOU KNOW, OR THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF USES THAT NEED A PLACE.
THE CELL TOWERS, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED A PLACE.
UM, BUT WE HAVE TO KIND OF BALANCE THAT, UM, WITH OUR, OUR DESIRES.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO TO MAYOR BARONE.
SO THIS IS, UM, THIS IS, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO OUR PNZ COMMISSIONERS.
I WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO, UM, TO SERVE OUR CITY.
UM, JENNIFER, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH
[01:30:01]
KNOW.NO, UM, I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY 18 YEARS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN ALL THAT YOU DO.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, LOOKING BACK 18 YEARS AGO,
'CAUSE MISSOURI CITY IS A PLACE TO BE
UM, BUT WHAT ARE THEY SEEING? WHAT DID THEY, WHAT'S, WHAT'S MAKING THEM COME HERE? UM, SO THAT WOULD BE 1, 1, 1 QUESTION.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION, THE SHIFT IN, IN PROJECTS FROM 10 YEARS AGO TO NOW.
SO WHAT, WHAT I WOULD SAY, UM, MY EXPERIENCE HERE AND EVEN JUST KIND OF THE HISTORY IS, IS THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A HOTBED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO YOU HAD A LOT OF BUILDERS, YOU KNOW, THAT WERE JUST TRYING TO SCOOP UP EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY THEY COULD FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND THAT'S RESULTED IN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, THE BIG SUBDIVISIONS THAT WE'VE SEEN COME ONLINE, UM, OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
THEN YOU SAW A SHIFT TO THE JOB CREATION AND THE WAREHOUSING AND KIND OF CAPITALIZING ON THE REGIONAL, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES BEING BUILT OUT AROUND THE REGIONAL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TRANSPORTATION NETWORK TO THE SHIP CHANNEL, YOU KNOW, UH, TO TWO 90 TO OTHER PARTS, THOSE PLACES STARTING TO BUILD OUT.
SO YOU STARTED TO SEE THAT SHIFT OF, OKAY, THE CITY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE AND MOVING INTO THAT DIRECTION.
UM, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS BEEN THE MORE AMENITIES, FULL SERVICE, UM, COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, DESIRING TO HAVE THINGS THAT ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, DESIRING TO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS HERE AFTER 9:00 PM OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, HERE DESIRING TO HAVE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS HERE.
UM, SO THAT HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN CERTAIN MINDSETS AND PERSPECTIVES AND KIND OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES, UM, TO WHAT, UM, KIND OF GETS AN AUDIENCE AND WHAT DOESN'T GET AN AUDIENCE PER SE.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY, AND THEN THANK YOU MAYOR.
AND, UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
UM, THOSE WHO WERE ABLE TO, TO MAKE IT THANK YOU ON YOUR BUSY SCHEDULES, UM, AND JENNIFER AND STAFF, EVERYBODY HAS PRESENTED SOME GREAT INFORMATION.
UM, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE PUT MY GLASSES ON, I HAVE A COUPLE OF GOOD DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.
SO WHEN, WHEN DEVELOPERS ARE COMING HERE AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH YOU, AND MY QUESTION IS, DO THEY HAVE TO DIVULGE WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING SO THAT Y'ALL CAN DISCUSS WHAT TYPE OF ZONING CAN GO ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UM, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE MISHAPS DOWN THE LINE FOR THEIR TENANTS? THAT'S ALWAYS THE GOAL.
UM, SO IN PARTICULAR, I KNOW, UM, THERE'S BEEN COMMUNICATION ABOUT STRIP CENTERS AND MM-HMM,
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE FRONTAGE THAT'S ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL.
LET ME GO PUT IN A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING AND ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER YOU KNOW, IS WILLING TO PAY THE RENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT I PUT UP, UM, OUT THERE.
SO TYPICALLY THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES IS, YOU'LL HAVE SOMEONE COME, THEY WANNA BUILD THE CENTER, SOME DEVELOPERS WILL COME WITH A PACKAGE, THEY HAVE A NETWORK, THEY HAVE RELATIONSHIPS, OR THEY'RE WORKING, YOU KNOW, IN TANDEM TO BRING CERTAIN TENANTS HERE.
SOME ARE JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE THE SPACE AND IT'S A BUILD TO SUIT.
AND SO IN THOSE CASES, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS FORTHCOMING, UM, AS TO WHO MIGHT BE THE FUTURE TENANTS IN THOSE SPACES.
WHAT WE TRY TO GUARD WITH IS THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE ZONED FOR.
UM, NONETHELESS, WE WILL TEND TO RUN INTO THOSE CASES OF A USE THAT APPLIES TO GO INTO A BUILDING THAT ISN'T PERMITTED, UM, WITHIN THAT CENTER.
[01:35:01]
THE STAFF LEVEL IS TRY TO GIVE THEM, UM, THE BEST, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION TO KIND OF MAXIMIZE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY CAN MAKE DECISIONS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR.
SO, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE ZONING SIDE YOU HAVE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO TYPICALLY IT'S, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR USERS ARE GONNA BE, RESTAURANTS ARE USUALLY THE BIGGEST DRIVER OF PARKING.
UM, SO IF YOU DESIGN A SPACE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE A RESTAURANT USE WITHIN A, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF YOUR SHOPPING CENTER, YOU'RE PUTTING LIMITATIONS ON YOURSELF.
UM, AND SO WHEN THAT RESTAURANT COMES TO THE CITY TO TRY TO LOCATE THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, YOU KNOW, OF WIGGLE ROOM WE HAVE IF THE CENTER WASN'T DESIGNED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS TO YOU AND THE COMMISSIONERS, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING ZONING, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE ZONING, UM, FROM THE PARTICULAR DEVELOPERS FOR THEIR PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING, DO YOU GUYS TAKE CONSIDERATION FUTURE ORDINANCES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO VIOLATE, SUCH AS ZONING, A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS TOO CLOSE TO CERTAIN AREAS THAT COULD CREATE A NOISE, UM, A NUISANCE IN NOISE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, DOGS BARKING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
DO YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE CURRENT ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISIONS TO REZONE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES? ANYBODY? YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE LIMITATIONS.
UM, AND LEGAL IS THERE AT EVERY MEETING TO GUIDE US.
THERE ARE BUFFERS THAT WE CAN MAKE SUGGESTIONS FOR, UM, WHETHER IT'S TREES OR WALLS OR USING DIFFERENT, UM, STONE INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, CHAIN LINK.
AND WE TRY TO SEE IT FROM THE EYES OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT, BUT WE ARE LIMITED.
SO DO Y'ALL SEE THAT AS A, AS A GAP WHERE, UM, WE NEED TO ADDRESS CERTAIN, UH, BOUNDARIES IN BETWEEN CERTAIN AREAS TO PREVENT, UM, ISSUES DOWN THE LINE FOR, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE AREAS THAT ARE, AND SOME OF THEM MAY BE ZONED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT THE ONES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON, I KNOW THOSE ARE SUGGESTIONS, BUT DO YOU CONSIDER THAT TO BE A GAP WHERE WE NEED TO RAISE THE LEVEL OF REQUIREMENTS FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, LIMIT FUTURE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY? AMEN.
I THINK THE PART OF THE THING THAT I, I GUESS IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A STRUGGLE, BUT THAT I HAVE TO THINK THROUGH IS THE LIMITATIONS IN PLANNING AND ZONING.
SO IF WE HAVE, UM, AN ISSUE BEFORE US TO MY VICE CHAIR'S POINT, WE'RE, WE'RE USING STAFF, WE'RE USING WHAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL, AND THEN WE CAN ONLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
OUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS KIND OF HAVE TO BE OUT THE WINDOW.
I KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT FROM WRONG, I KNOW WHAT I WOULD WANT TO DO, BUT ON, ON, AS A COMMISSIONER AND WITHIN WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION OFF OF THAT.
SO IF IT, IF WE HAD RULES THAT, THAT FIX THE ISSUE, THEN IF WE WOULDN'T BE TIED BEHIND OUR, HAVE OUR HANDS TIED BEHIND OUR BACK, SO TO SPEAK, WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FEELINGS OR, WELL, CLEARLY THIS IS TOO CLOSE TO THE DEAL, BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BEHOLDEN TO OUR, UM, TO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US LEGALLY.
JENNIFER, DO YOU THINK THAT'S A GAP THAT WE NEED TO, TO LOOK AT, TO RAISE THE LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, OUR CODES AND REGULATIONS? YEAH, AND I THINK ON THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SIDE IS THE, THE POLICY OF HOW YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, UM, KIND OF DEVELOPMENT TO BE INTEGRATED OR USES TO BE INTEGRATED.
UM, AND THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TOOLS DO YOU HAVE IN PLACE? SO RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING STANDARDS THAT CREATE BUFFERS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TO COUNCIL MEMBER BON'S POINT, THAT BUFFER REQUIREMENT HASN'T BEEN CHANGED, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE MID TO EARLY EIGHTIES.
YOU KNOW, SO IS AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, IS THAT STILL APPROPRIATE? YOU KNOW, 20 FEET, UM, YOU KNOW, WIDTH, IS THAT APPROPRIATE? YOU KNOW, IS IT APPROPRIATE IN ALL CASES OF ANY NON-RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL? COULD BE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, SO DO THOSE ITEMS NEED TO BE CONSIDERED? BUT, SO YEAH, FROM THE POLICY STANDPOINT, IT WOULD ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEKING TO MAKE.
AND THEN FROM THE IMPLEMENTATION, YOU WOULD RE-LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, UH, REGULATIONS FOR THOSE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER YARD, OR IF THERE'S OTHER TOOLS, UM, THAT
[01:40:01]
MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TODAY THAT WEREN'T AVAILABLE AT THAT POINT.I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, WORKSHOP THAT OR SOMETHING.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THESE NOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE FUTURE CONCERNS, ISSUES AND COMPLAINTS DOWN THE LINE.
AND WE'VE HAD THESE IN THE PAST.
AND SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY WE NEED TO MAKE THIS, UH, A PRIORITY TO START ADDRESSING THOSE AREAS BECAUSE MISSOURI CITY IS DEFINITELY HOT.
WE'RE ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE IN FRONT OF CERTAIN PROJECTS BEFORE THEY TURN INTO, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS ON OUR, ON OUR CITY.
I'M GONNA GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, EMERY.
WELL, THE QUESTION I HAD WAS REALLY ABOUT, UH, THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION SD, UH, CAN YOU, WHAT, WHAT'S THE BASIC, UH, DESCRIPTION OF SD AS FAR AS WHAT CAN BE PLACED ON THERE AND HOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE THAT'S REALLY JUST A FAIL SAFE.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PLACE TO PUT IT OR CLASSIFY IT, SO YOU PUT IT AS SD.
WELL, SO I'LL SAY, I PUT THIS ON THE TABLE AS A GAP PLANNING STAFF WAS DISCUSSING THIS EARLIER.
UM, AND, UH, THERE WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT SEPARATION.
UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S BASICALLY THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS LOOKING AT IT IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, IS THE ZONING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES THAT AS THE CITY ANNEXES PROPERTY, THAT BECAUSE EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY HAS TO HAVE A ZONING, UM, CLASSIFICATION AS THE CITY ANNEXES PROPERTY, IT WILL BE ASSIGNED THE SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT DESIGNATION.
NOW, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS, IT'S JUST LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR ZONING AMENDMENTS.
ZONING AMENDMENTS GO THROUGH PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO WHEN THE CITY ESTABLISHED ZONING IN 1981, IT HAD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT WENT THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, PUBLIC NOTICE PROCESS.
IT SAID, THIS IS THE ZONING THAT WE'RE GONNA ASSIGN TO THESE PROPERTIES.
AND THEN THAT WAS PUT INTO AN ORDINANCE.
WHEN IT GOES TO A ZONING AMENDMENT, IF COUNCIL APPROVES, IT'S GONE THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE PLANNING A ZONING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN NOTICED.
ALL THOSE, UH, LEGAL REQUIREMENTS ARE IN PLACE.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY RIGHTS, THIS IS THE ZONING, UM, FOR THAT PROPERTY.
WHEN LAND IS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND IS CLASSIFIED SD, IT'S NOT GOING THROUGH THAT PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
SO BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING THROUGH THAT PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, THE, WHEN THE COMMISSION, WHEN THE COUNCIL, WHEN YOU SEEK TO ESTABLISH PERMANENT ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY, THEN THAT'S THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
I'M GONNA GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER
UH, REAL QUICK, I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK ON SOMETHING THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON SAID, AND I HAD A QUESTION, UH, OF CITY MANAGER AND, AND JENNIFER, UH, AS IT RELATES TO BEING, UH, OBJECTIVE VERSUS SUBJECTIVE, UH, RELYING ON STAFF FOR THE INFORMATION, FACTS AND DATA TO MAKE A A, AN INFORMED DECISION.
UH, I WATCH YOU ALL RELIGIOUSLY.
UH, Y'ALL LIKE, UH, ROCK STARS.
UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE, BUT NO, UH, IT'S A LOT OF WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO.
AND, UH, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SUBJECTIVE DECISION MAKING, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE PAST, NOT NOW, UH, THANKFULLY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO REMAIN OBJECTIVE IN YOUR DECISION MAKING BASED OFF OF THE STAFF, UH, AND NOT MAKE DECISIONS, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, UH,
AND SO I THINK YOU WERE A SERVANT, UH, AT THAT TIME.
I CALLED, SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING.
SO I'M JUST SAYING, CAN PLEASE CONTINUE, UH, 'CAUSE WHAT YOU ALL DO IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, FOR US, FOR THE CITY, UH, AND FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO KEEP, UH, MISSOURI CITY MOVING FORWARD.
UM, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT JUST PATH FORWARD, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
I KNOW, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, BROWN MARSHALL BROUGHT IT UP AS WELL.
UH, BUT, UH, TIMELINES AND, AND, AND, AND WORKING, UH, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PLANNING ZONING AS WE TALK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LOOKING AT ZONING, ET CETERA.
UH, HOW WE CAN BEST MOVE FORWARD AND WHEN WE CAN START THAT PROCESS.
SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AS TO ASK WHEN WE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND THAT HAS BEEN, WE GET A TIMELINE THAT HAS BEEN A PRIORITY IN EVERY
SO, UM, THAT WILL BE, UM, IRONED OUT.
AND SO PART OF THIS NEEDED TO HAPPEN, UM, FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO THE APPRAISAL REPORT IS STILL REFLECTIVE OF THIS, BECAUSE WHAT WE'LL PRESENT TO YOU IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, ON WHETHER OR NOT WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING AND WHAT YOU'RE CONVEYING IS
[01:45:01]
COMPLETELY OFF THE GRID FROM WHAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE.OR IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING, EXPANDING, UM, PUTTING IN SOME OF THOSE GAPS INTO THAT PLAN.
SO WE NEEDED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, UM, SO THAT WE COULD SOLIDIFY THAT RECOMMENDATION, UM, PRESENT THAT RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN DETERMINE THAT PATH FORWARD.
SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW WHO, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, DID, DID I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT POLICY? DID I HEAR THAT CORRECT? NOT SO MUCH OF REDEVELOPMENT POLICY.
WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE POLICY REFLECTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON REDEVELOPMENT NOW TO THE GAPS, IS WE NEED TO FLESH THAT OUT.
THAT, SO FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WE DON'T HAVE TO OPEN DISCUSSION NOW, BUT I THINK AN ACTUAL REDEVELOPMENT POLICY OR GUIDANCE FOR SOME OF OUR OLDER PARTS OF THE CITY SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GAP CURRENTLY.
YEAH, JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THERE.
SO, COUNCILMAN ERY, DID YOU ADD SOMETHING OR NO, GO AHEAD.
JUST REAL QUICK, THE, THE QUESTION OF GAPS, I WANTED TO JUST MENTION THE COUPLE THAT I THOUGHT KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER IS NOTIFICATIONS OF CHANGE IN ZONING, 250 FEET, REALLY NOT VERY FAR.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THE MINIMUM.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US BE MUCH MORE PROACTIVE, MUCH MORE OPEN.
LET'S LET US, I KNOW WE, I KNOW WE DO A LOT OF THINGS TO NOTIFY, BUT AS FAR AS DIRECT MAIL MM-HMM,
SO ANYTHING TO MOVE THAT FORWARD AND EXPAND THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
SECONDLY, I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE LIVED IN MISSOURI CITY FOR 50 YEARS OFF AND ON, AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF STUFF.
AND, AND SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP THE INITIATED ZONING.
I THINK THEY TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE PLOTS OF PROPERTY IN THE, IN THE CITY THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE PROACTIVE IN REMOVING, CHANGING THE ZONING.
SO SPECIFIC BUSINESSES DON'T END UP THERE.
WE TALK A LOT ABOUT TRAFFIC ON THE STUFF, AND THERE ARE SPACES IN THE CITY THAT WE SEE PROPERTY COME UP, AND TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS A DISCUSSION.
UM, THAT WOULD BE AN AREA WHERE THE CITY CAN BE MUCH MORE PROACTIVE.
WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, WE HEAR, WE HEAR FROM 'EM ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, AND SPECIFICALLY THOUGH, THE, THE CITY'S GROWING IN CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE HUGE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
AND THAT'S AN AREA I'D LIKE TO SEE IS THE CITY BE A LOT MORE PROACTIVE IN TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE.
I KNOW THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THE CITY'S CONTROL, AND THEN THERE MAY BE ON THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS, BUT I THINK THEY, THEY POSE A HUGE POTENTIAL PROBLEM GOING FORWARD.
AND THANKS FOR DOING THIS FROM EVERYBODY.
I DO HAVE, BEFORE WE GO OFF, UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR SHASHI.
IF YOU CAN COME UP HERE JUST REAL QUICK.
UH, IT'S REALLY NOT SO MUCH OF A QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR INPUT.
ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS BESIDES SAFETY, RIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, ZONING ALL OF THIS.
I GO BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT, AND I HAD IT WRITTEN DOWN HERE.
YOU BEAT ME TO, IT IS TRAFFIC HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE, RIGHT? CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS WANTS TO COME, THE ZONING IS CORRECT, ACCORDING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS CORRECT.
BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THE ROADWAYS, RIGHT? UH, SO, AND, AND I KNOW BECAUSE OF THAT, WE CAN'T JUST STOP, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO WHEN YOU'RE DURING THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS OF YOU KNOWING THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ALL THE BOXES ARE CHECKED EXCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE ROADWAY.
HOW, HOW DOES THAT, SO WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON IT? BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT TRAUMA FRESNO ROAD, IT'S A, IT'S A ONE LANE AND IT'S HEAD ON COLLISION IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR PHONE.
SAME THING FOR WATTS PLANTATION.
SO CERTAIN ROADWAYS IN THIS CITY, WITHOUT US GETTING HELP THROUGH OTHER AGENCIES, WHEN I SAY OTHER AGENCIES LIKE PORTLAND COUNTY AND, AND ELSEWHERE, WE MAY NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN TO THE WAY THAT WOULD FIT THAT.
SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION THAT I CAN'T ANSWER AS A, AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
MAYOR, UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONER.
UH, THE NUMBER ONE, NUMBER ONE, AND NUMBER TWO QUESTIONS WE GET IS TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE.
YOU ASKED THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC.
OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S A ONE ACRE, TWO ACRE SITE THAT'S COMING IN WHERE THERE'S ROADWAY CAPACITY, THERE IS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, DUE DILIGENCE THAT GOES INTO IT.
LET'S SAY IT'S A 50 ACRE TRACK.
THERE IS A MULTI-FAMILY COMING IN.
IT'S PUTTING IN MORE THAN A HUNDRED VEHICLES, UH, WORTH OF TRAFFIC.
WE DO WHAT'S CALLED THE TIA WORKSHEET.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE DO, IS TO ESTIMATE HOW MANY TRIPS OF VEHICLES ARE COMING IN.
THEN WE LOOK AT THE ROADWAY CAPACITY.
SOMETIMES THE ROADS HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE THE ADDITIONAL VOLUME WHERE IT DOES NOT.
WE HAVE, AS FOR WHAT'S CALLED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, THAT LOOKS AT THE EXISTING ROADWAY CONDITIONS, IS THEIR CAPACITY TO TAKE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
[01:50:01]
WE GO EVEN ABOUND.BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
WE ESTIMATE WHAT'S THE BASE LEVEL OF SERVICE ON A PARTICULAR ROADWAY WITH THE PROJECTED INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, WHAT DOES THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE LOOKS LIKE AND ULTIMATE BUILD OUT IF IT DOES NOT MEET THE THRESHOLD IN OUR DESIGN CRITERIA, WE ASK FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
THE IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL LANE TO ACCOMMODATE LOAD OF TRAFFIC OR WIDENING, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE DO IS LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT, SEE WHAT LEVEL OF TRAFFIC IS COMING, JUST NOT NOW FACTORING OTHER DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN THE REGION, LOOK AT ANY POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND SEE WHAT LEVEL OF IMPACT IT'LL HAVE ON EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE THAT WE LOOK AT IN, ESPECIALLY ON MAJOR PROJECTS.
SO WHEN WE WORK WITH THE OTHER AGENCIES AND THEY HAVE A COMMITMENT TO CITY OF MISSOURI CITY, AND WE HAVE MAYBE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S ALLOCATED FROM US, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THAT, THAT TO THAT TO TAKE PLACE? USUALLY A PROJECT OF THAT NATURE.
AND I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE MARCUS SHARED THAT.
WHAT'S PLANTATION? THAT'S AS A PLANET PROJECT THAT HAD BEEN PLANNING FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS.
A WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING ROADWAY.
USUALLY THE, UH, THE HURDLE OR THE, UH, WHERE IT'S DELAYED IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
WE HAVE A DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY.
WE HAVE TWO LANE AND WANT TO GO TO THREE LANE.
IF THERE'S A DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY AND FUNDING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROJECT, WE CAN GO LIKE THAT.
BUT MORE OFTEN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR RIGHT OF WAY OR LAND TO DO THE WHITENING OF THE PROJECT.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, PROJECTS OF THAT NATURE USUALLY TAKE ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO IMPLEMENT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK, BUT I DO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER BONY, COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY, AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARLES FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS.
AND IT TOOK A LITTLE WHILE TO BRING THIS UP.
AND I KNOW THAT YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMISSIONER CHANGE CITY COUNCIL CAN CHANGE.
SO THERE'S ALL OF THIS, BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS JOINT MEETING IS HERE TODAY, UM, AS A COMMISSIONER, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE FROM STAFF AND COUNCIL? THAT'S NOT A LOADED QUESTION, BUT IT, IT IS JUST A FRIENDLY, IS THERE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE? THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT STAFF CAN IMPROVE TO MAKE YOUR JOBS EASIER, MAKE YOUR, UH, NOT TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS, BUT ON THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING.
UH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO? YES, SIR.
TURN ON, TURN ON THE MICROPHONE.
YEAH, SO MR.
SO INFRASTRUCTURE ALSO, UH, MR. MAN, YOU KNOW, MR. JONES ALSO EXPLAINED, SO INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP, THE JUST NOT AT THE ROADS AND MOBILITY, BUT ALSO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IF THERE IS ANY SEW AVAILABLE OR IF THERE IS ANY MUD DISTRICT IS, IS THERE.
SO ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IS MOST IMPORTANT PART OF WHEN YOU TAKE A PROJECT UP.
AND ON THE OTHER HAND, I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT IS THE BEST PRACTICES AROUND THE THREE CITIES THAT WE HAVE, SUGARLAND, UH, STAFFORD AND OTHER CITIES.
BUT SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, SUGARLAND IS COMPLETELY DEVELOPED.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ONLY PERSON ON THE SOUTH THAT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMING.
AND, AND SO WE HAVE TO ALSO, LIKE YOU BROUGHT IT UP POINT MAYOR ABOUT THE FORT BEND COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD THIS MOBILITY, UH, AND INFRASTRUCTURE, THE BOND OR ANYTHING.
SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE SHOULD GOING IN.
SO THAT'S WHAT, IF THAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR PLANNING, THEN THAT WOULD HELP US.
ANYONE ELSE? KNOWING THE PULSE OF THE DIRECTION, THE VISION'S IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HEAR IT FROM JENNIFER IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT WHAT DO, HOW DO YOU SEE THE CITY MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT YEAR, TWO YEAR, FIVE YEAR? SO WHEN WE HAVE THESE THINGS IN FRONT OF US, WE KNOW THE PULSE OF COUNCIL.
WE CAN ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS DURING OUR MEETING TO HELP FACILITATE SOLUTIONS BEFORE YOUR MEETING.
UH, AND I KNOW THAT E JOYCE WOULD AGREE THAT WE CAN'T HAVE A MEETING TO HAVE A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT STUFF
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I WROTE IT DOWN, YOU KNOW, AS A QUESTION, BUT I DON'T THINK I'M GONNA ASK THAT TO Y'ALL.
HOW OFTEN SHOULD WE MEET LIKE THIS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HEARING IT FROM COUNCIL, THEIR VISION AND, AND I'M SURE AS
[01:55:01]
TO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, RIGHT? UH, UPDATE OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, UH, OF WHERE THE DIRECTION OF THAT CITY COUNCIL'S LOOKING AT.SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, CITY MANAGER, UH, TO A WAY TO LOOK AT THAT.
IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO MEET BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS OF MISSOURI CITY, RIGHT? ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THEN ULTIMATELY IT COMES TO CITY COUNCIL.
BUT WHAT I HEAR FROM CITY RESIDENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS SAID THAT, UH, IT WOULDN'T MATTER.
IT'S GONNA GO TO COUNCIL AS THE FINAL AUTHORITY.
SO THAT HURTS ME BECAUSE OF THE REASON IS THAT, THAT THAT WHOLE PRESSURE COMES TO US.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THE, I'VE SERVED ON PARKS BOARD BEFORE, SO ONE OF MY, I GUESS THE ROLES THAT I SAW WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE TWO ROUND, RIGHT? ROUND ONE IS WITH P AND Z, AND HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE ALL YOUR, ALL THE TOOLS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
IF NOT, YOU HAVE PUBLIC WORKS, INFRAS, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE, UTILITIES, ED, UH, LEGAL, YOU GOT ALL THESE TEAM THAT'S THERE TO ANSWER THAT.
AND THEN TO CUSTOMER RAMONE'S POINT, SOME OF US DO WATCH Y'ALL MEETINGS, UH, IF NOT, THE RESIDENT WILL SHARE IT WITH US.
UM, BUT THEN WE GO TO ROUND TWO.
SO I, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOING TO ROUND TWO, I DON'T THINK.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE WENT TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS AND TOLD US TO ELECT US IN THESE POSITIONS, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO REPRESENT THE, THE CITY, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, SO KIND OF NEED SOME KIND OF HELP.
I MEAN, I, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU MIX THE BOTH.
I MEAN, JENNIFER, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PLANNING IS ZONING.
WE, WHEN WE COME THERE IF WE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC COMMENT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WATCHING IT THROUGH THAT.
SO HOW WOULD YOU, HOW WOULD THIS CORRELATION WOULD WORK? LET ME, LET ME TAKE A STAB AT THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO IRONCLAD WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS.
I THINK, UM, TONIGHT'S MEETING, HOPEFULLY, UM, GENERATED ENOUGH, UM, GAPS THAT, UM, STAFF NEEDS TO GO BACK AND ADDRESS.
UM, I, THE WAY THAT I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT THIS IS YOU HAVE STAFF THAT, THAT ARE THE PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING IS THE NEXT LEVEL THAT, THAT HAS MORE INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE AND DETAILED UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE CITY IS AS IT RELATES TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING.
AND THEN THE NEXT LEVEL IS OF COURSE, COUNCIL AT THE POLICY LEVEL.
SO IN ORDER FOR THAT TO WORK THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO WORK, THEY ALL HAVE TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF WHAT ONE IS DOING AND WHAT THE ROLE IS OF ONE ENTITY VERSUS ANOTHER, AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE UPDATING AND GETTING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS SO THEY KNOW WHERE WE ARE.
SO I THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING OR WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS BECAUSE OF SUCH DEMAND, UH, AND WHETHER THAT'S BECAUSE OTHER CITIES ARE BUILT OUT OR WE HAVE STRATEGIC LOCATION HERE IN MISSOURI CITY BEING CLOSE TO HOUSTON, UM, WHATEVER, THAT'S, WHATEVER THAT IS, WE HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH THE CHANGES AND, AND WE HAVEN'T SET THE VISION IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WANNA GO, HOW WE WANT TO GROW AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO WE'RE IN A REACTIONARY MODE.
SO I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD AND WHAT STAFF IS WORKING ON IS IDENTIFYING ALL THOSE GAPS THAT WE'VE HEARD, AND THEN WE WILL PRESENT THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.
WE WILL ALSO ARE INITIATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE WE WILL HAVE ALL STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
NOT JUST COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT OUR RESIDENTS, OUR BUSINESSES, EVERYONE THAT'S A STAKEHOLDER IN OUR COMMUNITY TO FEED INTO THAT.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY, AT LEAST ANNUALLY, I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS BODY WOULD GET BACK TOGETHER TO REVIEW WHERE WE ARE, ASSESS WHAT WE'RE DOING, DETERMINE IF IT'S, IF IT'S MOVING US WHERE WE WANT TO GO OR NOT, AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO IT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY HOW WE NEED TO GO ABOUT THIS.
ANY OF OUR APPOINTED OFFICIALS? SURE.
UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT PERHAPS AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY YEAR, THE UH, STAFF CAN PRESENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE CITY COUNCIL'S ESTABLISHED GOALS, UH, AND THE STRATEGIC GOALS, UH, FOR WHATEVER THAT CYCLE IS.
UH, BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, WHICH HAS BEEN MENTIONED, UH, SEVERAL TIMES HERE AND IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, IS THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT REALLY IS THE GUIDEBOOK FOR EVERYTHING THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOES
[02:00:01]
AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL.SO I THINK PRIORITIZING THAT, UPDATING THAT, AND ENSURING THAT IT REMAINS, UH, A LIVING DOCUMENT VERSUS KIND OF SOMETHING THAT, UM, NOT THAT IT'S NOT LIVING, BUT UH, NOT AS, UH, REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THE, THE CHANGING CONDITIONS ARE.
I THINK THAT WOULD, WOULD DEFINITELY HELP IN TERMS OF KEEPING BOTH BODIES, UH, IN LINE.
UH, QUESTION THE STUFF THAT WE BROUGHT UP HERE TODAY ABOUT GAPS, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? IS THAT SOMETHING STAFF WILL, WILL SEE SOMETHING FROM STAFF IN THE FUTURE? YES.
AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, I'LL, I'LL TURN THE QUESTION BACK TO YOU, WHICH IS, ARE YOU EXPECTING, OR IS COUNCIL EXPECTING PLANNING AND VOTING TO BE MORE, MORE PROACTIVE? I WOULD'VE EXPECTED KIND OF COME, SOMEBODY COME BACK AT ME WHEN I SAID THERE'S SOME PROPERTY THAT PROBABLY MAY BE REZONED AND SAYS, GREAT, GIVE US A LIST.
IS THAT, IS THERE THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR P AND Z TO MORE BE MORE PROACTIVE AS OPPOSED TO COMING TO OUR MONTHLY MEETING AND GETTING A, HERE'S WHAT WE TALK ABOUT TODAY.
SHOULD WE BE PROVIDING MORE, MORE INPUT ON THAT? I MEAN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVEN OF US HERE.
I'M ONLY ONE VOTE, RIGHT? UH, FOR ME, I, I, YOU KNOW, I YOU HEARD IT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
THERE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT IS BEFORE YOU TO MAKE, AND SAME THING BEFORE THE SEVEN OF US TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ONLY ASK OF YOU IS, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET AS MUCH, MUCH AS INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE FROM THE STAFF.
UH, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ASKED RECENTLY TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS JOINT MEETING IS ARE THERE STAFF AREAS THAT WITHIN THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, ARE THEY REPRESENTED? WHEN WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY IN PUBLIC HEARING SETTINGS, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT COME UP SO THAT WAY THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, WHETHER IT'S STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS NO, AND YOU VOTING YES OR MAJORITY VOTED NO.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDED YES, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW IT GOES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE FROM THIS MEETING THAT, THAT YOU HAVE THE TOOLS THAT IS THERE A LACK IF, IF THERE ARE THINGS LACKING.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO TO THE STAFF AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US TO VOTE ON IT, UH, TONIGHT OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I WOULD THINK AS A COMMISSIONER THAT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE DOING.
I'LL OPEN TO MAYOR PROTO AND MY COLLEAGUES TO STATE, YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I WOULD JUST SAY, UH, AS YOU, YOU KNOW, THE SAYING, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING
BUT AS YOU'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDST OF DOING YOUR JOB AS A COMMISSIONER, UH, IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCING SOMETHING OR SEE SOMETHING THAT IS A GAP OR, UH, THAT YOU FEEL WE COULD DO BETTER OR WE NEED TO IMPROVE, SORRY, WE CAN IMPROVE ON, THEN IT WOULD BE, UH, BENEFICIAL FOR YOU TO, TO EMAIL JENNIFER OR STAFF AND LET THEM KNOW SO THAT THEY CAN PASS THAT INFORMATION ALONG TO US.
NOW, SEEING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE UPDATING OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, BUT YOUR SUGGESTIONS ARE ALL NEEDED AND WELCOME, UH, FOR US TO MAKE A, A SOLID DECISION AS WE, UH, DEVELOP THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, WHAT I'D SAY IS, YOU KNOW, THE WAY I LOOK AT P AND Z AND, AND THE RESULTS THAT THEY BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL IS THAT, AND I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, I LOOK PERSONALLY THAT P AND Z IS LOOKING AT A LOT MORE IN DEPTH DETAIL OF WHAT THE PROJECT MIGHT BE SO THAT IT KEEPS THE, UH, COUNCIL FROM HAVING TO GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS AND DOING A LOT OF THE, THE, UH, INVESTIGATION FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF A PROJECT.
AND THAT'S NOT ONLY P AND Z, BUT ALSO FROM STAFF.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T MIND GETTING INTO THE WEEDS IF I HAVE TO, BUT IT'S A LOT EASIER IF WE'VE GOT A REAL SOLID, UH, RESPONSE FROM THE, UH, CITY AND FROM P AND Z TO HELP US, TO HELP ME MAKE THE DECISION THAT I THINK'S BEST FOR MISSOURI CITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, KEEP UP THE, THE DILIGENT, UH, WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND, UH, CONTINUE TO PROVIDE US WITH SOLID INFORMATION THAT WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON.
RIGHT? BUT IF YOU HAVE A LIST OF, OF
SO, AND I'LL ALWAYS SAY THIS TO YOU TOO, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I FIND IS EMOTIONAL VOTING IS THE WORST VOTING, RIGHT? BECAUSE
[02:05:01]
YOU ARE NOW GOING OFF OF THE EMOTIONS THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.BUT I COLLECTIVELY, IF YOU LIKE TO COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY'S POINT, YOU KNOW, THE VETTING PROCESS IF YOU WILL, RIGHT? AND THAT'S ALL BEING DONE AND THERE'S A REASON, 'CAUSE RECENTLY I LOOKED, I TRY TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES OF WHY SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS VOTED FOR OR VOTED AGAINST.
'CAUSE I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND FROM THE MINUTES PERSPECTIVE.
SO THERE ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE, EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY DO TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
OR IF NOT, GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO, RIGHT? UM, BUT I WOULD WANT TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE CAN MAKE VOTING, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THEM AND WHAT THEY STUDIED AND WHAT THEY DID THEIR HOMEWORK AND ASK THE QUESTIONS VERSUS, RATHER THAN JUST AN EMOTIONAL, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT? SO IT HAS TO BE WHAT FITS.
AND THAT'S WHY I'VE ASKED THAT QUESTION.
DO YOU ALL FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY THE TOOLS TO DO YOUR JOB, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ARE STAFFS AVAILABLE? ARE THEY PROVIDING THOSE INFORMATION TO MAKE THOSE RIGHT DECISIONS THAT YOU, I KNOW THEY'RE SITTING IN THE ROOM, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO ANSWER, BUT THIS IS WHERE, THIS IS WHERE WE CAN ONLY LOOK FORWARD TO IMPROVE OURSELVES.
RIGHT? YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ALL, THAT'S THE REASON I ASK AND, AND I ALWAYS SAY THE COLLECTIVE DECISION FOR ME IS AS LONG AS I THOUGHT THROUGH EVERYTHING AND I SAID, EACH OF US HAS ONE VOTE, AND YOU DO TOO.
BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE PUTTING PROS AND CONS AND, AND WHAT IF AND WHAT IF NOT IN FRONT OF US TO SAY WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF MISSOURI CITY? AND IF IT ALIGNS WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PLEASE DO SO TO ASK THE STAFF.
BUT IF YOU, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU UNDERSTAND IT, SOMETIMES I'M, I MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE PEOPLE VOTING, ARE THEY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS WAS OR ARE THEY NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS WAS? IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T ASK OTHERS OF HOW THEY VOTE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT BOGGLES ME WHEN I SEE IT, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING, BUT, AND I KNOW THAT IT HAPPENS AND, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA DO THE BEST INFORMATION.
ONLY THING I RELY ON STAFF IS TO PROVIDE THE TOOLS THAT I HAVE.
SPEAKING OF TOOLS, I JUST WANTED TO CHECK IN, UM, STAFF, WE INITIATED A DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT FORM THAT SUMMARIZES ALL THE DISCIPLINES ON ANY PROJECT COMING BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE UTILITIES, UM, TRAFFIC, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ZONING, YOU NAME IT.
IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD BE A PART OF THAT THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING, UM, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO YOU IN DOING YOUR JOB? COME ON, JAMES.
YOU THINK
UM, AND I KNOW SOMETIMES IT IS HARD NOT TO MAKE AN EMOTIONAL DECISION.
UH, BUT I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING OBJECTIVE AND MAKING SURE THAT Y'ALL REVIEWED ALL OF THE CONTENT, THE DETAILS ASKED, ALL THE QUESTIONS.
UM, UNLIKE COUNCIL MEMBER RAMONE, I DON'T WATCH THEM.
UM, BUT I DO GO BACK AND READ THE MINUTES, UH, BECAUSE THAT FOR ME JUST TELLS ME A LOT.
UM, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND SEE, I GET TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL FACTUAL DETAILS THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING YOUR DECISIONS ON.
AND ME PERSONALLY, I DEPEND ON Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION, WHETHER IT'S FOR OR AGAINST.
AND I TAKE THAT ALL INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN I'M MAKING DECISIONS.
AND SO, UM, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE WEEDS.
I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE THE WEED EATERS, UM, AND THAT Y'ALL TAKE CARE OF THAT PART, UH, FOR US.
BUT I JUST WANNA REINFORCE HOW MUCH WE DO, UM, AND MYSELF PERSONALLY DEPEND ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS ARE VETTING AND ASKING ALL THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE SUGGESTIONS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO MAKE SURE Y'ALL, UM, COME TO EVERY, EVERY MEETING EVERY MONTH AND STUFF AND MAKE Y'ALL'S NOTES BECAUSE I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND I DO DEPEND ON THAT AND I'M ABLE TO GIVE BACK FEEDBACK TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU GUYS DO YOUR STUFF.
IT DOES IMPACT WHAT I'M ABLE TO DO.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE? STAFF, COUNCIL, COMMISSIONERS? WELL,
AND I THINK THIS IS A STEP ONE AND I THINK WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
ANYTIME YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL, PLEASE LET THE STAFF KNOW AND THEY CAN SET THAT MEETINGS UP AND WE'LL DO THE VICE VERSA AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'LL CONTINUE THIS PATH FORWARD.
[02:10:01]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE,MAYOR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANNA THANK THE RESIDENTS.
I SEE JUST A FEW, BUT THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT, UH, AND UH, EXPRESSING Y'ALL'S OPINIONS AND HOPEFULLY Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO SIT IN ON THIS AND LEARN SOMETHING ADDITIONAL.
UM, AND YOU COULD WALK AWAY WITH, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL KNOWLEDGE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU'ALL FOR COMING OUT.
[5. CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION]
YOU.WE DO HAVE AN ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, ITEM WHICH IS FIVE B UH, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 0.074.
UM, SO WE WILL BE GOING BACK AND WE'LL COME BACK OUT.
[6. RECONVENE]
ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS 8:11 PM WE NOT NEED TO WRITE NOW THE CITY COUNCIL IS BACK INTO THE, THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JOINT SPECIAL MEETING, UM, AND HEARING WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS AND HEARING NO OBJECTIONS.THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 8:11 PM BEFORE Y'ALL RUN OFF, WE HAVE UH, TAKE A QUICK PICTURE IF YOU DON'T MIND, SO WE HAVE SOMETHING COOL HERE.