[1. CALL TO ORDER]
[00:00:10]
PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.
UM, WE ARE MISSING A HANDFUL OF COMMISSIONERS.
WE'RE ALSO HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
MR. DAVISON, MR. PEARSON AND COMMISSIONER BAILEY.
[3. READING OF MINUTES]
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 9TH, 2024 MEETING.
OH, THAT'S, UH, I HAVE TO ABSTAIN LAST MEETING.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND VOTE.
COMMISSIONER REPORTS CHAIR OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
I HAVE NO REPORT COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING TO ADD, SIGN NONE
[a. Development Services]
WILL MOVE ON TO DIRECTOR SERVICES.UM, I HAVE NO REPORT TONIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO STAFF REPORTS.
UM, SO I'M GONNA ASK, UM, FOR GINA TO STEP UP AND SHE'S GOING TO PRESENT THE FIRST REPORT ON THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENTED AS THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, ACTIVITY REPORT OF 2024, UH, WHICH IS FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2023 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.
UM, HERE WE HAVE THE PLANS APPLIED FOR, OOPS, OOPS.
PLANS APPLIED FOR BY, BY PLAN TYPE.
THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE SKEWED BECAUSE, UH, THEY ALSO INCLUDE, UH, APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VOIDED OR WITHDRAWN.
UM, HOWEVER, THE GRAPH PROVIDES, UM, AN IDEA OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED FOR PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE AND PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, WHICH PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES, UM, ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THOSE MINOR PERMITS.
UM, AND TO ASSIST WITH ANY COORDINATION BETWEEN, UH, DEPARTMENTS.
PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS ARE REQUIRED FOR THOSE ZONING CASES.
AND, UH, PLATTING, UH, APPLICATIONS BEFORE THEY'RE SUBMITTED.
THERE WAS, UM, APPROXIMATELY 60 MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD, UM, ALSO LISTED AS THE ONE-STOP DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TEAM THAT CONSIST OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, PUBLIC WORKS, FIRE, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, AND ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT FOR ZONING MAP AMENDMENT CASES, WE HAD ABOUT 12 TOTAL.
UM, ONE ZONING, MAP AMENDMENT, UH, NINE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND TWO SPECIFIC USE PERMITS APPLICATIONS FOR THE PLATTING ACTIVITY, WE HAD ABOUT 61 TOTAL, UH, CONCEPT PLANS OF NINE, PRELIMINARY PLATS OF 14 AND FINAL AMENDING PLATS OF 38.
UM, THESE ARE APPROXIMATELY 20% OF TOTAL APPLICATION TYPES FOR PARKLAND, APPROXIMATELY 1%.
UM, WE HAD FOUR SUBMITTED, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS OF MEADOWVIEW ESTATES, UH, SIENNA PARK, PARKLAND PARKWAY CROSSING AND LOSS LOFTS AT NIGHT.
UM, AT NIGHT ESTATES, WE ALSO HAVE THE GRAPH FOR PERMITS.
UM, YOU CAN ALSO, THEY ALSO GO ALONG WITH THE ZONING CASES AND THE PLATINGS THAT ARE SUBMITTED.
THE, THE PLATS THAT ARE SUBMITTED.
UM, FIRST ZONING HAS TO BE IN PLACE, OF COURSE, IF THAT'S REQUIRED.
UM, ANY PLATTING ONCE THAT'S APPROVED.
AND THEN ONCE, ONCE THE FINAL PLA IS APPROVED, SUBMITTALS FOR BILLING PLANS CAN COME THROUGH AND BEGIN THEIR REVIEWS.
AND THEN PERMITS ARE ISSUED, UM, UPON APPROVAL.
AND NEXT WE LAST WE HAVE OUR COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMIT ACTIVITY, UM, WHICH ALSO GOES ALONG, OF COURSE, WITH THE ZONING AND PLATING.
AND WE HAD, UM, APPROXIMATELY 163 OF THOSE MAJOR, UM,
[00:05:01]
PERMITS AND MINOR PERMIT LEVEL TWO ISSUED.AND THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT, OR, UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
OKAY, SO NEXT WE HAVE ANOTHER STAFF REPORT.
SUN IS ON ZONING RELATED APPLICATION PROCESSES AND TIMELINES.
UH, AND THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST BY ONE OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO CON MAKE SOME CON CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT OUR DEADLINES ON OUR ZONING APPLICATIONS.
SO THAT, AND TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN OVERVIEW OF OUR CURRENT PROCESS AND WHAT WE DO HERE WITH THE ZONING APPLICATIONS.
SO TO START OFF WITH, THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PHASES THAT AN APPLICATION GOES THROUGH BEFORE IT MAKES ITS WAY TO CITY COUNCIL AND BECOMES AN ORDINANCE.
UH, TO START OFF WITH, WE HAVE THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT, WHICH AIMA JUST SPOKE ON WITH HER STAFF REPORT.
UH, SO THIS, AT THIS PHASE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL BRING A PROPOSAL TO US AND OUR TEAM WILL GET TOGETHER AND, AND GIVE THEM SOME INSIGHT ON WHAT THEIR STEPS ARE GOING TO BE THROUGH THE APPLICATION, THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AFTER THAT, THEY WILL SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.
WE WILL REVIEW IT, UH, IT'S A MINIMUM OF A 60 DAY REVIEW FOR STAFF.
AND DURING THAT TIME, WE'LL WORK ON OUR STAFF REPORT AND WE WILL SEND OUT NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND FINALLY, FINISH OFF OUR STAFF REPORT SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT IT TO YOU AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING PHASE, WHERE WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU GUYS WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW YOU WANT TO SEND THE PACKAGE TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE'LL ALSO SEND OUT ANOTHER NOTICE TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL PHASE.
DURING THAT PHASE, CITY COUNCIL WILL HEAR, READ YOUR GUYS' RECOMMENDATION, RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, AND THEN DECIDE IF THE APPLICATION IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD OR IF IT'S GOING TO BE DENIED AT THAT POINT.
IF IT MOVES FORWARD, IT GOES BACK TO CITY COUNCIL A SECOND TIME WHERE THEY CAN AGAIN, DENY IT OR MOVE IT FORWARD.
AND AT THAT POINT IT WOULD BECOME AN ORDINANCE.
NEXT, UM, OUR CURRENT DEADLINES FOR ZONING APPLICATIONS.
SO WE HAVE, WE RECEIVE ZONING APPLICATIONS ON SPECIFIC DAYS OF EVERY MONTH.
IT'S GENERALLY ONE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.
AND THOSE SCHEDULES COINCIDE WITH OUR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND OUR PARKS BOARD MEETINGS.
AND THAT SCHEDULE IS USUALLY ESTABLISHED ABOUT A YEAR IN ADVANCE.
AND IT'S PART OF THE ZONING APPLICATION THAT THE APPLICANT RECEIVES AND FILLS OUT AND SUBMITS TO US.
UH, THE NEXT DEADLINE WE HAVE HAS TO DO WITH ACTUALLY PROVIDING, BRINGING THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU GUYS AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A SET TIMELINE FROM THE TIME WE RECEIVE AN APPLICATION TO THE TIME WE BRING IT TO YOU.
REALLY THE STOP IS WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE APPLICATION TO BE COMPLETE.
SO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THERE'S ISSUES WITH WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO APPLY FOR, THAT WOULD HOLD IT UP BEFORE WE WOULD BRING IT TO YOU.
'CAUSE WE WOULD NOT BRING AN INCOMPLETE APPLICATION.
UH, AFTER THAT, THE NEXT DEADLINE WOULD BE OUR 30 DAY NOTICE DEADLINE.
THAT NOTICE IS PRIOR TO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS THE HEARING THAT HAS HAPPENS HERE.
AND THEN THE LAST DEADLINE IS THE 15 DAY OR 16 DAY DEADLINE.
AND THAT'S THE DEADLINE BY WHICH WE POST THE NOTICE WITH THE NEWSPAPER TO NOTIFY PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCILS, UM, CURRENT ACTIONS FOR ZONING APPLICATIONS.
SO WHEN WE PROVIDE YOU GUYS WITH OUR REPORT, WE GENERALLY WILL GIVE OUR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WILL BE POSITIVE, AND IF IT'S POSITIVE, THAT MEANS THE APPLICATION.
WE FOUND IT TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR ZONING STANDARDS.
AND IF IT'S A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, THAT MEANS THE OPPOSITE
AND IF IT'S DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THAT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE IT MAY OR MAY NOT CONFORM WITH PARTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK.
AND WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE IT WORK AND TO MAKE IT FLY BY YOU GUYS.
AND ONCE WE GIVE YOU THAT STAFF REPORT, WHAT YOU GUYS DO IS YOU DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO GO ALONG WITH WHAT WE SAID AND PROVIDE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
OR YOU CAN PROVIDE A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION EVEN IF WE PROVIDED A POSITIVE OR VICE VERSA.
UH, ALSO YOU GUYS CAN MAKE YOUR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO STANDARDS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED IN THE APPLICATION.
THE FOURTH OPTION IS YOU GUYS HAVE THE OPTION TO TABLE AN ITEM UNTIL YOU RECEIVE FURTHER INFORMATION RELATED
[00:10:01]
TO A SPECIFIC STANDARD IN ONE OF OUR ZONING CODES OR ANY OF OUR CITY STANDARDS.UH, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE BY WHICH AN APPLICANT NEEDS TO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS.
SO ONCE WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING PHASE, WE ARE NOW AT THE CITY COUNCIL PHASE AND THEY WILL RECEIVE OUR LE OUR RECOMMENDATION.
THEY WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THEY GET THE OPTION TO MAKE THOSE SAME APPROVED DISAPPROVED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OR TABLED ITEM.
AND AGAIN, THERE IS NO SET TIMELINE ON WHEN AN ITEM IS TABLED TO WHEN THEY NEED TO PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
ALRIGHT, SO TODAY WE WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT PROCESS AND DETERMINE IF YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, WHICH IS JUST PROVIDING A CHECKLIST AND GIVING THE APPLICANT PLENTY OF TIME, AS MUCH TIME AS THEY NEED TO GET A COMPLETE APPLICATION OVER TO US.
OR, UH, YOU GUYS CAN CONSIDER ESTABLISHING A TIMELINE BY WHICH AN APPLICATION NEEDS TO BE DEEMED TO COMPLETE.
SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE UNLIMITED TIME TO WORK OUT THE KINKS WITH US.
THERE WOULD BE A DEADLINE BY WHICH THEY WOULD NEED TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
IF THEY FAILED TO MEET THAT DEADLINE, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE THEIR APPLICATION EXPIRE, EXPIRE AND HAVE THE FEES JUST BE A LOSS TO THEM OR SOMEWHERE IN THE MIX.
ALSO, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO ESTABLISH WHETHER YOU'D LIKE TO SET A TIME FRAME BY WHICH THEY NEED TO RESOLVE ANY ISSUES THAT YOU GUYS SEE WHEN WE BRING THE ITEM TO YOU.
SO RIGHT NOW, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IF YOU GUYS DECIDE TO TABLE AN ITEM, IT'S TABLED UNTIL THEY PROVIDE WHAT WE NEED.
BUT YOU COULD SET A DEADLINE ON THAT AND GIVE THEM A SET NUMBER OF DAYS BY WHICH TO PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
OTHERWISE, THEIR APPLICATION WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DENIED AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO START OVER.
WELL, NOT DENIED NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, SORRY.
OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ZONING.
SO ON A FEDERAL LEVEL, ZONING WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS AS A RESPONSE TO POOR LIVING CONDITIONS IN MAJOR CITIES.
ZONING WAS CHALLENGED AND FOUND TO BE CONSTITUTIONAL IN 1926.
AND THE NEXT YEAR IN 1927, TEXAS ADOPTED THEIR STANDARD ZONING ENABLING ACT FROM THAT ACT, WE HAVE CHAPTER TWO 11 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH IS THE CHAPTER THAT GIVES THIS CITY THE AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT ZONING AS A WAY TO PROTECT THEIR CITIZENS' RIGHTS.
IS THAT RIGHT? SECTION 2 1, 1 0.004 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SPELLS OUT HOW ZONING IS USED TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS.
AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS CHART HERE HOW, WHAT THE STATE CODE HAS ESTABLISHED, HOW WE HAVE INTERTWINED THAT WITH OUR BUILDING STANDARDS OR ZONING ORDINANCE AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL.
SO THIS IS HOW WE USE THAT TEXAS CODE TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS' RIGHTS.
UM, IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH APPLICANTS, WE ARE GOING TO START USING A NEW FORM, WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY CALLING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANALYSIS WORKSHOP.
WE DON'T HAVE A NICE, FUNNY SHORT LETTER WORD FOR THAT.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST A WAY FOR US TO PROVIDE THE APPLICANT A BREAKDOWN OF ALL OF THE GOALS THAT ARE IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE GOALS AND THE SUB GOALS, SO THAT THEY CAN SEE WHERE THEIR APPLICATION OR HOW THEIR APPLICATION MEASURES UP TO EACH ONE OF THOSE GOALS INDIVIDUALLY.
AND IT PROVIDES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND UPDATE THEIR APPLICATION SO THAT IT FALLS IN LINE WITH OUR APP, WITH OUR GOALS AND STANDARDS, AND IT WILL STRENGTHEN THEIR APPLICATION WHEN WE PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS.
OH, SO IT'S A PRETTY LONG FORM, SO NOW YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SCREENSHOTS OF IT.
SO THAT IS THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION, AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
AND IF I CAN'T, JENNIFER WILL HAVE THE ANSWERS.
SO JENNIFER, NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.
UH, MY FIRST SUGGESTION, YOU CAN CALL IT A CPA WORKSHOP WORKSHEET, JUST CBB, CPA WORKSHEET.
UM, AND THEN MY MORE SERIOUS QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE A BASELINE, UM, IN TERMS OF TIMEFRAME OF WHEN, UM, APPLICANTS TURN IN THEIR INFORMATION WHEN IT'S BEEN EITHER TABLED OR THE INITIAL INFORMATION IS INCOMPLETE? RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TIMELINES.
WE DO LET THE APPLICANT KNOW THAT THEY HAVE, WE DO AN INITIAL 60 DAY REVIEW, AND AT THAT
[00:15:01]
POINT WE PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME FEEDBACK AND THEN WE WOULD TELL THEM YOU'RE READY TO GO TO, TO PLANNING AND ZONING.OR WE WOULD TELL THEM, WE NEED TO WORK OUT A FEW MORE KINKS BEFORE WE CAN TAKE YOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
SO IF, IF I SUBMIT SOMETHING AND IT'S TABLED, AND SO RIGHT NOW IT'S TABLED FOR AN UNDETERMINED AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT LET'S SAY I TURNED IT IN A MONTH FROM WHEN IT WAS FIRST TABLED, ARE THERE OTHER EXAMPLES OF APPLICANTS LIKE THAT? SO YOU CAN SAY, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIED TIME TO TURN IT BACK IN AFTER IT'S TABLED, WE KNOW THAT ON AVERAGE IT TAKES ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO FOR PEOPLE TO RESUBMIT.
AND I'M ASKING BECAUSE THAT COULD HELP BASELINE, SHOULD WE, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE PROPOSAL? I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE WANT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC DATA, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT WANT A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THAT WOULD TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS VERSUS YOU MAY JUST WANT A TRAFFIC IMPACT MEMO, WHICH WOULD TAKE A MONTH.
SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT EXACTLY WE NEED.
AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION UNTIL WE GET TO THIS PLANNING AND ZONING PHASE.
BUT WE COULD MAYBE POSSIBLY PUT DEADLINES DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED.
BUT THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX BECAUSE SOME THINGS MAY ONLY NEED 30 DAYS WHERE OTHER THINGS NEED SEVERAL MONTHS.
OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, IF I CAN MAKE FOLLOW UP ON, ON WHAT JAMES WAS ASKING, IS IT POSSIBLE THEN, SINCE THERE'S SOME VARIABILITY DEPENDING ON WHAT, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING MIGHT WANT, WE COULD SET THE DEADLINE FOR WHEN THAT COMES BACK? SO IN A DISCUSSION HERE, IT'S NEEDS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WE'RE INFORMED THAT THAT'S GONNA TAKE FOR THIS PROPERTY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS, BUT THAT THEN ALLOW US TO THEN SAY, HERE'S THE TIMEFRAME IT HAS, WE'RE GONNA TABLE IT AND IT THIS NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED BY THIS DATE, OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE CODIFIED IN AN ORDINANCE? I'M NOT SURE ON THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE.
YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF LEO WAS GOING TO ANSWER, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CODIFIED IN AN ORDINANCE.
AND I THINK RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE DISCUSSION IS IF YOU ALL WANT TO IMPOSE, UM, THOSE KIND OF TIMELINES OR JUST KIND OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, PARAMETERS YOU WANT, UH, TO LOOK AT IMPOSING, BECAUSE GENERALLY A LOT OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS SHOULD BE IN THE CHECKLIST.
AN APPLICANT SHOULD KNOW WHEN THEY'RE MAKING A SUBMITTAL, WHAT CONSTITUTES A COMPLETE APPLICATION.
UM, BECAUSE AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND THE, UH, CONSIDERATION, WE SHOULDN'T BE THROWING A LOT OF NEW, UM, INFORMATION INTO IT.
UM, SO IT SHOULD BE IN THE CHECKLIST TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THEN IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR ADDITIONAL REVIEW OR, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTIVE INFORMATION TO GO WITH IT, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE CONSIDERATION ON HOW MUCH TIME WOULD BE NEEDED, UM, FOR THAT INFORMATION TO BE PROVIDED.
BECAUSE I, I KNOW WE HAVE, WE HAVE TABLED A FEW, UM, AND IF IT'S PO AND, AND IF IT MAKES IT EASIER, THEN MAYBE THAT DISCUSSION TAKES PLACE HERE AND THE COMMISSION SETS A TIMELINE FOR WHEN IT COMES BACK, SO.
UM, AND I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ELEMENT, THE, THE, THE FOUR, THE FOUR OPTIONS THAT WE AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE DEVELOPMENT IS ONE OF THEM, I DON'T THINK I, I, AM I CORRECT IN STATING THAT TYPICALLY IF THERE'S DEVELOPMENT ISSUES, THESE ARE KNOWN AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THEY GET HERE, THEY'RE TYPICALLY LISTED IN THE RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES FROM STAFF AND SO FORTH? CORRECT.
SO IT ALSO MAKES SENSE THAT THE TIMELINE TO RECTIFY THOSE SHOULD BE FAIRLY SHORT BECAUSE THEY'RE KNOWN TO THE APPLICANT.
IT, IT'S NOT A SURPRISE, ET CETERA.
IS, IS THAT CORRECT? GENERALLY, YES, UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES AN EXTENSIVE REVIEW WHERE MAYBE ENGINEERING NEEDS TO SEND IT OUT TO A THIRD PARTY, UH, THAT THOSE ITEMS WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE PROVIDED ALSO IN THE STAFF REPORT.
COMMISH COMMISSIONERS, UH, OR SO ARE WE PLANNING ON SETTING UP A DEADLINE FOR THOSE, UM, SUVS OR SOMETHING IS GONNA GO BACK OR TABLE? ARE WE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION LATER ON TODAY ABOUT THAT? WELL, I, I THINK THIS IS RIGHT NOW IN A DISCUSSION ONLY ITEM, UM, I THINK STAFF WILL COME BACK WITH AN ACTUAL REPORT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE ACTUAL DISCUSSIONS AT THAT POINT.
I'M ASSUMING THAT GOES WITH THE, I'M ASSUMING THAT GOES FOR THE COMMON SENSE.
WELL, SO THE, I'M SORRY, THE COMMENTS, THE RECOMMENDATION OR THE COMMENTS FROM THE STAFF? UH, YEAH, I MEAN THIS WHOLE TOPIC IS, IS, IS, THIS IS JUST KIND OF AN INTRODUCTION, I BELIEVE.
SO DEPENDING ON YOUR GUYS' FEEDBACK, WE'LL GO BACK AND WE'LL TAKE ALL THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED TODAY, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THIS AS AN ACTION ITEM ITEM LATER ON.
SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN SPECIFIC TIMELINES AND IF YOU WANT THOSE INCORPORATED IN THE STAFF REPORT SO WE KNOW WHEN TO BRING IT BACK, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT YOU WANNA BRING UP, WE'LL TAKE THOSE NOTES DOWN AND WE'LL INCLUDE THAT IN OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WOULD BE AN ACTION ITEM.
[00:20:01]
YOU.WHAT'S BROKEN? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO FIX? MY, MY REACTION TO THAT BIG, HUGE WORKSHEET IS IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO AND I, I, I GUESS I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE WHY WE'RE DOING THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM, FINE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE INVESTING A LOT IN, IN TRYING TO FIX THIS OR, OR MAKE CHANGES TO IT.
AND WE HAVE THE SITUATION WHERE, WELL, I, I MEAN, I, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE OVER THE LAST YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD A HUGE PROBLEM, UM, THAT WHERE WE TABLE STUFF AND IT SITS TOO LONG OR, OR, OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX, JENNIFER, I BELIEVE IN, UM, COMMISSIONERS CAN, UM, ADD TO IT AS WELL IS, I BELIEVE IN RECENT, UH, THIS PAST YEAR, THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE HAVE PENDING AND SOME OF THAT, UM, WAS AS WE WORK THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE PROCESS, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, APPLYING THAT INPUT, UM, IN THAT PROCESS TO, UH, SOME OF THOSE APPLICATIONS.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN, UM, THAT IF THOSE APPLICATIONS AREN'T RESPONSIVE OR RESPONDING, UM, KIND OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, MECHANISM DO WE HAVE, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST SITTING THERE INDEFINITELY.
USUALLY WITH ZONING CASES, THE BIGGEST MOTIVATOR IS EITHER A GROUP DOES NOT CONTROL THE PROPERTY, UM, OR THEY HAVE A PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME OUTSIDE FORCES THAT KIND OF IMPOSE TIMEFRAMES, UM, ON A LOT OF THE ZONING CASES.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL THAT, UM, ARE PENDING, UM, AS WE AWAIT, UH, FOR COMPLETE APPLICATIONS TO BE MADE BEFORE THEY'RE, THEY'LL BE SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I THINK TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT, NO, THIS HAS NOT BEEN A HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ISSUE, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD WITH ZONING CASES, BUT MORE SO RIGHT NOW AND JUST TRYING TO, TO BRING THINGS UP TO DATE.
AND SO THE, THE BACKLOG, THE PENDING THING, UM, IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING ON THE APPLICANTS OR OKAY.
FOR THEM TO RESPOND TO EITHER THE CHANGES THAT, THAT WE PROPOSED OR DISCUSSED OR, OR REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT MEETING AND NOW THEY'RE HAVING TO, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MEET 'EM.
AND, AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT WOULD BE IN, IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO BE MOTIVATED TO, TO GET THOSE THINGS RESOLVED SO THAT THINGS MOVE FORWARD.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WANT TO BE DR.
DRIVING THAT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE AGAIN, THE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING THE DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THAT DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST A THOUGHT, I I I'M CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP ON ADDING MORE WORK TO THE STAFF AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE I DON'T, I CAN'T REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, IF I TRIED TO COMPARE LAST YEAR'S WORKLOAD TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S WORKLOAD, I CAN'T, I CAN'T REMEMBER RECALL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING A BIG INCREASE.
UM, IT'S REALLY NICE TO GET THE DATA THAT THAT WAS PRESENTED IN, UH, IN BOTH THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK FORWARD TO DIGESTING IT A LITTLE MORE, MAYBE TWO
AND WE, WE DEFINITELY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT CONCERN.
BUT ALL THESE TIMELINES FALL IN LINE WITH THE STATE LAW THAT WAS CHANGED.
SO NONE OF THOSE, UH, THE PARAMETERS THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING WHEN WE HAVEN'T LOST A APPLICATION BECAUSE OF OUR UN TIMELINESS SINCE THEY PASSED ALL THOSE LAWS.
SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO WORK AROUND THAT.
AND SO I, I, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT STAFF DECIDES TO, TO DO WITH THIS GOING FORWARD.
AND WE'LL, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT AGENDA FOR NEXT COUPLE AGENDAS, MAYBE WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
SO IS THERE A DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PRESENTING DEADLINES AND TIMELINES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE CASES? COMMISSIONERS? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME DEADLINE.
UH, I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE A FOR BOTH FOR APPLICANT AND STAFF, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT STAFF TO BE DRAGGING ON THAT APPLICATION FOR SO LONG IF THE APPLICANT IS NOT THAT CAPABLE OR THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION.
THEY MAY BE, THEY MAY NOT CARE ABOUT THE $1,500 THEY PAY FOR THE A CP PERMIT, BUT WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SOME TYPE OF CONTROL CITY HAS.
[00:25:01]
NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE IT, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CANCEL THE APPLICATION AND THEN MOVE FORWARD.UM, SO IT JUST, THAT ACCOUNTABILITY ON BOTH SIDES, I WOULD SAY.
SO IT'S MY BELIEF THAT THE CITY'S NOT HOLDING ANYTHING UP.
SO I I DO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD MAYBE MOTIVATE THE DEVELOPER IF THERE WERE DEADLINES.
UM, BUT AS GRACE SAID, SOMETIMES IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE QUESTION, OUTSTANDING QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE CAN BE A DEADLINE ESTABLISHED.
SO MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS, IS IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO KEEP FROM GETTING A WHOLE BACKLOG OF STALLED APPLICATIONS PENDING, WAITING IT, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPER TO, OR THE APPLICANT TO GIVE US MORE INFORMATION.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE THAT'S PROBABLY WORTHWHILE SPENDING SOME TIME ON IT.
[b. Engineering]
UH, WE WILL MOVE ON AND, UH, SEE IF CITY ENGINEERING HAS ANYTHING TO SAY TONIGHT.IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK AFTER MY BRIEF PATERNITY LEAVE.
UH, I, I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, HOSTING OUR ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER, ED NA GOKI.
UM, HIM AND I ARE GONNA BE TRADING OFF, UH, ON THIS COMMISSION AS OUR SCHEDULES AND ABILITIES ALLOW.
SO THIS SEAT WILL ALWAYS BE OCCUPIED, BUT IT'LL BE OCCUPIED BY ONE OF THE TWO OF US.
UM, JUST TWO OTHER BRIEF UPDATES, UH, WITH THIS LAST, UM, FISCAL YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF ED HAD MENTIONED IT, BUT WE DID GET A NEW POSITION WITHIN, UH, CITY ENGINEERING THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL CIP PROJECT MANAGER TO HELP MANAGE THAT LARGE PROJECT LOAD THAT, UH, KAYLA HAD COME AND PRESENTED ON A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT $150 MILLION OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS SPREAD OVER, I THINK WE'RE AT 50 PROJECTS PLUS OR MINUS RIGHT NOW.
SO TO HELP MANAGE THAT WORKLOAD AND MAKE SURE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING IN THAT, THAT SUPPORTS THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WE TALK ABOUT IN THIS COMMISSION.
THE SECOND ITEM IS, UH, ON MONDAY AT CITY COUNCIL, I SHOULD BE A PEN, ASSUMING I GET ALL MY PAPERWORK IN ON TIME, I SHOULD BE PRESENTING, UM, OUR TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY, WHICH WILL HELP, UH, BRING, BRING SOME, SOME TANGIBLE MECHANISMS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE TRAFFIC LOADING NEEDS AND CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A DIRECT BEARING ON, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO IN THIS COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, AS THOSE PROJECTS COME IN, IT MAY HAVE A, WHAT DO I SAY? UM, WE, WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN IF THERE IS AN ADJACENT TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT GOING ON.
AND, UH, WE'LL MAKE YOU AWARE OF THOSE AS THOSE COME IN.
SO YOU CAN KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU MAKE DECISIONS ON ZONING AND FLATS.
IS THAT A TECHNICAL TERM TRAFFIC? CALL ME.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S WHAT WE CALL THINGS LIKE, UM, SPEED TABLES OR CHICANES OR, UM, OH, WE, WE DON'T DO SPEED BUMPS, UM, BUT WE DO SPEED HUMPS.
UH, THOSE ARE USUALLY THE ONES THAT ARE DIVIDED IN THE CENTER TO ALLOW FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO STILL BE ABLE TO TRAVERSE CLEANLY, UM, AND JUST PREVENT OTHER VEHICLES FROM HIGH CENTERING ON THEM.
SO TRAFFIC CALMING IS THE ACCEPTED TERM FOR THESE KIND OF MECHANISMS. UH, USUALLY, UH, HARD INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES EITHER TO THE VERTICAL OR HORIZONTAL ALIGNMENT OF A CAR AS IT TRAVERSES DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, BUT IT'S THE TECHNICAL TERM FOR ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. WOW.
YOU LEARNED SOMETHING NEW TONIGHT, DIDN'T YOU? AND THE ENGINEERS CAME UP WITH IT.
I I, IF IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN SECRET LANGUAGE, I MEAN OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT TRY TO DO IT.
[6. PUBLIC COMMENT]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY.UM, PARDON THE INTERRUPTION IF I MAY AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT BEFORE GOING INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, THE PUBLIC ADDRESS PLANNING'S ZONING COMMISSION ON A, UH, TYPICALLY NOT ON ITEMS, TYPICALLY NOT ON THE AGENDA.
AND THE, THE COUNCIL OR THE THE COMMISSION WILL NOT RESPOND TO, UH, YOUR STATEMENTS.
IT'S, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND IT IT'LL BE ON THE RECORD.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, TORO TO PLEASE.
[00:30:05]
GOOD EVENING, GUYS.I LIVE IN 51 11 NI ROAD IN RUAN, TEXAS.
AND IT'S THE LAST MEETING WE HAD ON OCTOBER NINE, WE HAD DISCUSSING ABOUT THE SPEED, UH, WAS HAPPENING IN FRONT OF THAT NITRO ON THE ACTUAL KNIGHT ROAD BETWEEN MCKEEVER AND FOR BENTO ROAD BETWEEN VER AND, UH, FOR BENTO ROAD.
AFTER THE, WE DISCUSSED THE SPEED AND WE REQUESTED FOR SPEED BUMPS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU REQUESTED TO CALL THE, UH, THE AUTHORITIES TO TRY TO MONITORING THAT ROAD.
AND THE FEW WEEKS AFTER THE MEETING, I CALLED THE AUTHORITIES AND I HAD A MISSOURI CITY POLICE CAR DRIVING FROM OVER 80 MILES PER HOUR DRIVING LIKE A FORMAL ONE DRIVER ON KNIGHT ROAD, PASSING THREE TO FOUR CARS IN THE UPCOMING TRAFFIC WITHOUT HAZARD.
DOESN'T HAVE A LIGHTS, DOESN'T HAVE A SIGNAL OR SIREN PASSING THESE CARS.
WHAT IS MAKING THE POLICE ACTUALLY PUBLIC WORKER DRIVING AN 80 MILES PER HOUR ON A 30 MILES RESIDENTIAL ROADS.
I ENCOUNTERED HIM THREE TIMES.
ON THE THIRD TIMES I WAS ABLE TO RECORD HIM ON MY HOME SECURITY CAMERAS.
HOW HE'S DRIVING RECKLESSLY IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE WITHOUT OBEYING ANY KIND A LOSS.
I TRIED, I WAS THE SECOND CAR BEHIND HIM AND I WAS TRYING TO GET HIS LICENSE PLATE OR A CARD NUMBER.
WHEREAS BY THE TIME I GOT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, THAT WAS 30 SECONDS LATER AND I WAS HAVE THE RECORD OF THE VIDEO WHEN I'M DRIVING WITH 30 MILES PER HOUR AND HE WAS ALREADY GO GONE OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
IF ANY ONE OF YOU LIKE TO SHARE WITH ME YOUR EMAIL OR DROP BOX, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT VIDEO.
MY SON, WHO IS 17 YEARS OLD, HE LOVED RIDING BIKE.
HE LOVED RIDING SCOOTERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THAT ROAD OPEN.
AND THERE'S NO SPEED BUMPS, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.
I HAD A DUMP TRUCK WORKING ON A FOUR BEND PARKING RIGHT PROJECT, TRY TO RUN HIM OFF THE ROAD BECAUSE HE SAW A YOUNG KID ON A QUAD OR ON THE BIKE.
A ELDERLY PERSON TRYING TO JEOPARDIZE A YOUNG PEOPLE BEFORE THAT WAS OPEN.
OR EVEN RIGHT NOW, NO CONTROLLING THE SPEED.
WE HAD A ELDERLY PEOPLE, 80, 90 YEARS OLD, PEOPLE TOLD BY THEIR DOCTORS TO WALK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR EXERCISING FOR LONGER LIFE.
THINK ABOUT IF THAT'S YOUR PARENTS, IF IT'S YOUR DAD OR YOUR MOM, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE DOCTOR TO WALK AROUND AND THERE'S, I'M SORRY, MANDATORY OF YOUR TIME IS UP.
AND THERE'S THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR KIDS OR YOUR PARENTS AND THEY JUST TRYING TO RUN THEM OVER.
IS THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE.
[a. CONSENT AGENDA]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN, THE PLATS, THE CONSENT AGENDA.CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SIENNA.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SIENNA.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF CNA, SECTION 86.
CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF CNA, SECTION 35 B AND CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A REPL NUMBER TWO OF GATEWAY SOUTHWEST INDUSTRIAL PARK.
ANY, UH, DISCUSSIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES PLEASE.
[b. Misty Leaf Gardens]
MOVING ON.UH, ITEM B, MISTY LEAF GARDENS CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A CONCEPTUAL, CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF MISTY LEAF GARDENS.
UH, SO THE APPLICATION WAS DISAPPROVED DUE TO NOT BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLATTING MANUAL AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANUAL AS WELL.
UH, FOR PLATTING, THE APPLICANT WILL JUST NEED TO, UH, UPDATE THE VICINITY MAP AND THE SCALE OF
[00:35:01]
THE PLAN ITSELF.AND I WILL LET ENGINEERING SPEAK ON ANY, UH, ENGINEERING COMMENTS.
THERE WERE A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WERE OF CONCERN, UH, FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UH, FIRST IS THAT THE NUMBER OF LOTS IS GREATER THAN 30.
AND ONCE WE HAVE GREATER THAN 30 LOTS, WE NEED A SECOND POINT OF ENTRANCE.
UH, ADDITIONALLY THERE IS THE TURN KIND OF ON THAT NORTH SIDE THAT IS A, UH, IT'S A LESS THAN 90 DEGREE TURN.
AS SUCH, THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES BEING ABLE TO MAKE THAT TURN.
ADDITIONALLY, IT APPEARS THAT THE RESERVE FOR THE LIFT STATION, AND I BELIEVE THE FORCE MAIN ARE ALSO LABELED AS GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS NON-COMPLIANT.
UH, THE, UH, SOME OF THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY OR SOME OF THE EDGE OF THE PROPOSED PLAT APPEARS TO ENCROACH UPON THE LEVY AREA.
UH, AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER ITEM.
THOSE ARE THE ONES I RECALL FROM RIGHT NOW.
UH, IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THERE IS A, AN IDENTIFIED AREA FOR DRAINAGE WITHIN THIS.
UM, SO AS SUCH, UH, ENGINEERING RECOMMENDED TO DISAPPROVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE.
AGAIN, GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES PLEASE.
SO DISAPPROVAL IS A YES, DISAPPROVAL IS A YES.
[11. CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION]
ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE READY.UH, AT THIS POINT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSION MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO 5 51 0.71 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE AGENDA.
SO SOMEBODY NEEDS, WE, WE CAN'T DO IT ON THAT'S STATED.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[12. RECONVENE]
WE'RE BACK IN ORDER.WAIT, IS EVERYBODY BACK NOW? LET'S WAIT FOR LEGAL TO COME AND SIT DOWN.
[a. Specific Use Permit Glenn Lakes Cell Tower]
UH, ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT GLEN LAKE CELL TOWER PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENT OR AGAINST A REQUEST BY KATIE HARMS ATLAS TOWERS.FOR AN SUP SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL FOR AN APPROXIMATE 2,500 SQUARE FOOT TRACT LAND OUT OF A LARGER 15.53 ACRE TRACT LAND TO ALLOW FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A NEW TELECOM SITE CONSISTING OF A 155 FOOT TALL MONOPOLE TOWER AND ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT.
THIS APPLICATION IS TO LEASE A SPACE FROM THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE A CELL TOWER.
THE APPLICANT IS APPLYING FOR AN SUP AS REQUIRED BY OUR CITY ORDINANCE.
THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE ONE MONOPOLE, A LIGHTNING ROD THAT WILL HOLD UP TO FOUR CARRIERS, A 25,000 SQUARE FOOT AREA FOR THE CARRIERS TO STORE THEIR EQUIPMENT AND ACCESS ROAD AND FENCING.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT.
THIS LAND CLASSIFICATION IS IDENTIFIED AS RURAL LANDS OR UNDEVELOPED ACREAGE AS AN SD LAND OR AS THE CITY PROGRESSES.
AND SD DESIGNATION CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING.
AND UNDER OUR CURRENT CODE, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS AN ALLOWABLE USE IF THE APPLICATION IS FOUND IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 15 OF THE CITY ORDINANCE.
AND SECTION 15 B, WHICH IS SPECIFIC TO COMMUNICATION TOWERS.
UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT IS CELL TOWER SPECIFIC REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE AN INVENTORY OF EXISTING TOWERS WITHIN ONE MILE.
IN THIS CASE, THERE IS ONE TOWER THAT'S LOCATED ALONG TURTLE CREEK.
OUTSIDE OF THAT ONE MILE RADIUS, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL HIGH DEFINITION TELEVISION TRANSMISSION TOWERS, WHICH ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SUP 1 35 AND ARE SPECIFIC TO TELEVISION TRANSMISSION.
[00:40:02]
THE 2017 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT CARVE OUT SPECIFIC SPACES FOR COMMUNICATION TOWERS.SECTION 15 AND 15 B SET THE CONDITIONS BY WHICH WE CONSIDER THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION.
AND SECTION 15 B 0.2 POINT B PROHIBITS THE CITY FROM CONSIDERING RADIO FREQUENCY EMISSIONS AS A FACTOR BY WHICH WE GRANT OR DENY AN SUP.
ALSO, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ENACTED THE TELECOMMUNICATION ACT IN 1996.
THE KEY TAKEAWAYS OF THIS ACT IS THAT THE CITY MAY NOT DISCRIMINATE AMONG PROVIDERS FAVOR ANY ONE COMPANY OR IMPOSE A BLANKET PROHIBITION AGAINST THE PLACEMENT OF A TOWER.
OUR FUTURE LAND USE IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS PARKS AND RECREATION, WHICH SERVES AS OUTDOOR RECU RECREATION, OR OUT OPEN SPACE.
THE CITY DOES NOT CURRENTLY OWN THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS SUP.
AND IF THIS SUP IS GRANTED, IT WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE REMAINDER THE SURROUNDING LAND FROM DEVELOPING AS PROJECTED IN THE FUTURE.
LAND USE PLAN OR DEVELOPING AS MARKET FORCES MAY MAKE IT RELEVANT BASED ON THIS REVIEW, THE APPLICATION AND SUPPORTING INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS APPLICATION.
AND OUR PUBLIC NOTICE IS AS FOLLOWS.
WE SENT OUT OUR NOTICE ON OCTOBER 18TH TO THE RESIDENTS WITHIN 250 FEET, ABOUT 75 RESIDENTS.
UH, WE ALSO POSTED A SIGN THAT SAME DAY.
THIS IS OUR NEW SIGN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH.
AND, UH, WE HAVE THIS ITEM SCHEDULED FOR A CITY COUNCIL AGENDA HEARING ON DECEMBER 16TH.
QUESTIONS THE, I THINK LIKE TWO OR THREE SLIDES BEFORE, UM, WITH THE, UH, THE, THE RADIUS THERE WITH THE, UH, CELL TOWERS WITHIN A MILE.
MM-HMM,
UM, THE ONE ON TURTLE CREEK DRIVE.
WHAT KIND OF TOWER IS IT? IS IT CELL OR IS IT TV? THE TURTLE CREEK TOWER IS A CELL TOWER.
AND THE TRIANGLE UNDERNEATH THE, UM, YELLOW PUSH BIN, THAT'S WHERE THE SUBJECT SIDE IS.
THAT'S THE OH, IT'S AREA WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY.
SO THE PUSH
UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ONE SLIDE, I THINK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, I WANT TO REITERATE THAT LAST BULLET ON THIS SLIDE.
UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT, UM, LAW PREVENTS US FROM CONSIDERING RADIOFREQUENCY ADMISSIONS ON PERSONS OR THE ENVIRONMENT AS A FACTOR IN DENYING AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS, UM, PICKED UP BY EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, I IMAGINE WE DO WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR HIM, THEM, HER I GUESS INSTEAD OF APPLICANT HERE.
MY NAME IS KATIE HARMS. I'M WITH ATLAS TOWERS AND I AM THE APPLICANT.
WE ARE PROPOSING 155 FOOT MONOPOLE AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN, LET YOU GUYS GO FIRST.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I GUESS I, I HAVE A COUPLE.
SO I NOTICED THAT THIS IS KIND OF A, I GUESS A SPECULATIVE CONSTRUCTION 'CAUSE THERE'S NO CARRIERS LISTED AT THIS TIME.
THIS ONE IS DRIVEN BY VERIZON AT THIS TIME.
WE TEND TO NOT BUILD OR GET INTO THIS PROCESS UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CARRIER ON BOARD, OTHERWISE WE GET IT BUILT AND THEN IT'S, IT STANDS NAKED FOR FAR TOO LONG.
SO VERIZON, VERIZON IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS POI THIS SITE.
UM, SO THE DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE, I'M ASSUMING THEY CAME FROM YOU FOLKS YES.
THAT SHOW THE TOWER WITH A BUNCH OF, LIKE THAT ONE YES.
THAT SHOW A BUNCH OF ANTENNAS HUNG ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT.
IS THAT THE WAY IT'S GONNA LOOK OR ARE THERE OPTIONS TO MAKE IT LESS OBTRUSIVE? SO UNDER YOUR, YOUR SECTION 15 B FOUR RIGHT.
YOU GUYS DISCUSS HAVING A STEALTH DESIGN.
[00:45:01]
SPECIFIC TO WHAT TYPE OF STEALTH DESIGN YOU WANT TO USE.YOU DO HAVE MONO PINES IN THE CITY, BUT A MONOPOLE IS ALSO UNDER THAT DEFINITION OF STEALTH.
YOU DON'T WANNA ADD TOO MUCH OF A COVERAGE BECAUSE THEN IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE RADIOS.
SO YOU ANSWERED, MY THIRD QUESTION WAS WHAT'S A STEALTH POLE AS
A STEALTH POLE COULD BE ANYTHING FROM, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE PALM TREES TO THE, THE PALM, YOU KNOW, THE PINE TREES.
THERE'S BEEN, UM, SOME THAT LOOK LIKE THE, THE NATIONAL MONUMENT.
I MEAN, THEY CAN GO ANY SORT OF WAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, SO ONE OF THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR THIS.
UM, AND AT THIS POINT, I GUESS THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE DRIVEN BY VERIZON SINCE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE YES.
YOU KNOW, PUSHING THIS FORWARD.
SO, UH, IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE DONE THIS, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE COME IN AND THEY'VE SHOWN US THE ANALYSIS THAT THEY DID TO SAY THAT BASICALLY THIS IS WHERE IT HAS TO BE.
'CAUSE ALL THE OTHER LOCATIONS WE CONSIDERED WERE EITHER NOT AVAILABLE MM-HMM.
BUT THIS, THIS IS WHERE IT HAS TO BE.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY OUR PROCESSES.
WE GET A, A PIN ON A MAP FROM VERIZON.
WE SEARCH WITHIN THAT MILE RADIUS, HALF MILE RADIUS, AND WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND OUT PACKAGES TO EVERY PARCEL THAT FITS WITHIN YOUR CITY ORDINANCE TO, SO WE'RE NOT SENDING 'EM TO, YOU KNOW, OBSOLETE PARCELS.
UM, AND THEN WE NEGOTIATE LEASES WITH THE LANDLORDS.
WE ALSO SENT ONE TO THE CITY BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE LAND JUST TO THE NORTH OF IT WITH THE PARK.
UM, SO EVERYBODY WITHIN THAT VICINITY THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A CELL TOWER ON THE PROPERTY DOES GET THE OPTION TO SIGN A LEASE WITH US.
THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE ONE WE GOT.
AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE RF ENGINEERS AT VERIZON.
SO JUST TO REITERATE HIS QUESTION, THIS WASN'T, ALL OPTIONS WERE NOT EXHAUSTED.
SO THIS WAS THE ONLY OPTION THAT WE CAME BACK WITH.
SO WE SENT OUT PACKAGES TO ANYBODY THAT WAS IN THAT VICINITY THAT WAS PROVIDED BY VERIZON.
THIS WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD THE OPTION TO MOVE FORWARD AND BY OPTION MOVE FORWARD.
YOU MEAN THOSE WERE THE, UM, OWNERS OF THE LAND WHO WERE YEAH, THEY NEGOTIATED A, A LEASE WITH US.
SO OTHERS DID NOT NO NEGOTIATE FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO IT'S THE LAST OPTION FOR YOU, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE, UM, IT COULD BE AT OTHER AREAS.
UM, IS A BETTER WAY TO ASK THE QUESTION IF SOMEBODY ELSE PROVIDED, UM, UH, A CONTRACT OR WANTED TO LEASE THEIR THEIR LAND, THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION FOR YOU AT THAT POINT? IT'S POSSIBLE IF IT'S IN THE RING THAT WE'RE LOOKING.
SO IT'S GOTTA BE A SPECIFIC COVERAGE AREA.
AND IT CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU ADJUST THOSE RINGS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AS, AS GRACE SHOWED, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT TOWERS.
AND SO BASED ON YOU SHIFTING MAYBE SOUTH, YOU MAY HAVE EXISTING TOWERS THERE.
AS YOU GUYS SAW ON THE MAP, IT'S PRETTY DEAD RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OF COVERAGE.
AND THE, THE, THE TOWERS THAT ARE TO THE WEST OF THERE THAT ALREADY EXIST, THE TV TOWERS, THOSE ARE TOO FAR OUT OF THE RANGE OR YES.
SO THOSE ARE OVER ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF FROM THIS TOWER LOCATION.
WHERE DID, WHERE DID, WHERE DID VERIZON DROP THEIR PIN IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS ONE? UM, MAYBE RIGHT THERE ON, UH, MISTY HOLLOW.
SO RIGHT WITHIN THE ROAD, NEAR THE, THE LAKES.
SO JUST TO, TO THE, THE WEST OF IT.
WE GOT REALLY CLOSE TO THE, THE RING ON THIS ONE.
HOW MANY KILOWATT GENERATOR DO YOU HAVE? HOW MANY WHAT? KILOWATT GENERATOR.
HOW, HOW BIG IS IT? HOW MUCH NOISE? SO I'D HAVE TO GET, UM, CONFIRMATION ON THE GENERATOR, BUT TYPICALLY WHEN WE BRING THE POWER IN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SINGLE PHASE, 1 22 40 WITH A FOUR METER, YOU KNOW, GANG STYLE METER DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE POWER COMPANY.
SOMETIMES THEY WANT US TO DO A GUTTER SYSTEM.
SOMETIMES THEY WANT US TO DO A H FRAME.
BUT IF LOSS OF POWER AND IT GOES TO A BACKUP GENERATOR.
SO HOW, WHICH NOISE DOES THAT MAKE? IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY NOISE.
THE GENERATOR DON'T MAKE ANY NOISE.
SO VERIZON WILL HAVE GENERATORS, PROBABLY IT'LL BE AC GENERATORS.
UM, AND THESE ONES, BECAUSE THERE'S SLIGHT FLOODING IN THE AREA, THEY'VE GOTTA BE SETTING UP ON A PLATFORM.
AND SO YEAH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY NOISE.
AND CAN I ASK STAFF A QUICK QUESTION JUST TO REFRESH MY MEMORY.
THE, THE TOWER AT TURTLE CREEK ON THE IMAGE WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE MIDDLE, THAT IS A CELL TOWER, NOT A TV TOWER.
[00:50:02]
THAT ONE IS A CELL TOWER.AND THE ONE, AND IF, IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU SAID THERE WASN'T A CELL TOWER WITHIN A MINE? NO, NO, NO.
SO YOU ASKED ABOUT THE ONES TO THE, THE FAR, FAR NORTH.
THAT ONE RIGHT THERE AT THE VERY, VERY TIP.
SO IT'S NOT A CELL TOWER? NO, THAT IS A CELL TOWER.
BUT THE ONES OFF TO THE RIGHT THERE THAT YOU'LL SEE OUTSIDE OF THE RED RING.
THOSE BIG TOWERS THAT YOU SEE OFF OF THE FORT BENTO ROAD.
I THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT MR. SLY BROUGHT UP.
SO I MISUNDERSTOOD, MISUNDERSTOOD.
I THOUGHT HE WAS, HE WAS ASKING IF THERE WERE ANY CELL TOWERS WITHIN THAT ONE MILE RADIUS.
THAT ONE, THAT ONE IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE ONE MILE RING.
SO YES, THE MONO, THE MONO PINE.
AND AGAIN, QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
THERE'S A NEW TOWER UP AT CYPRESS POINT AND CARTRIGHT, UM, CELL TOWER THERE.
SO THAT DOESN'T HAVE, IS THAT A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION? 'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE OUTSIDE OF IT IS JUST A POLE, THERE'S NO ANTENNAS OR ANYTHING HANGING ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT.
IS THAT FULLY ENCLOSED? ARE THOSE ANTENNAS INSIDE OR, RIGHT.
AND THAT, THAT TOWER WAS DESIGNED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
THAT WAS THEIR STEALTH, UH, DESIGN WAS TO HAVE THE ANTENNAS AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT INTERIOR.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON TEXAS PARKWAY AT THE PROGRESSIVE HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, THERE'S A TOWER WHERE YOU DON'T SEE THE ANTENNA.
THEY'RE, UM, FLUSH INSIDE OF THE, THE TOWER.
SO DOES, DOES, DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY ABILITY TO SAY THAT THAT'S THE KIND OF TOWER WE WANT? BECAUSE THE DRAWING HERE IS VERY DIFFERENT.
BOTH OF THOSE TOWERS WERE REQUIRED TO BY THE SUP APPROVAL.
I'M SORRY, COULD YOU, BOTH OF THOSE TOWERS WERE REQUIRED TO DO THAT AS PART OF THE SUP APPROVAL.
ARE WE DONE WITH THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND WE WILL START THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM.
I LIVE AT 41 11 CASA DE LAGO IN THE LAKE OLYMPIA SUBDIVISION.
I'M A TRAINED EPIDEMIOLOGIST AND I WORK AT HOUSTON METHODIST AND ALSO THE UT SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH.
I'M HERE TODAY TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ZONING OR AMENDMENT, AS YOU CALL IT, FROM THE MISSOURI CITY FUTURE LAND USE COMPREHENSION PLAN FOR THIS 2,500 SQUARE, UH, SQUARE FOOT GLEN LAKES PROPERTY, ALLOWING FOR THE TOWER.
ALTHOUGH THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY WILL RECEIVE A PITTANCE FOR THE PLACEMENT OF THIS CELL TOWER ON THE LAND OF THE PROPOSED GLENLAKE SITE, THE AESTHETICS OF HAVING 155 FOOT MONOPOLE 135 FEET FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL DROP HOUSE VALUES BY AT LEAST 7.6%.
AND THAT'S BASED ON THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS, UH, ESTIMATES.
THERE'S ALSO STRONG EVIDENCE, ALTHOUGH THE CHAIR MENTIONED ABOUT THE RF IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN, UM, UH, COUNT AGAINST, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO TALK ABOUT RADIO FREQUENCY, SICKNESS AND CANCER DUE TO THIS.
SO THERE WAS A META-ANALYSIS DONE IN 20, UH, 2022 AND A PEER REVIEW JOURNAL CALLED THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH THAT FOUND THERE WAS THREE MAJOR EFFECTS OF BASE TOWER ANTENNAS ON THE HEALTH OF PEOPLE THAT INCLUDED RADIO FREQUENCY, SICKNESS, CANCER, AND CHANGES IN BIOCHEMICAL BLOOD AND BIOMARKERS.
AND THIS WAS BASED, AGAIN, ON 38 STUDIES GLOBALLY.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S DOCUMENTED HEALTH EFFECTS DUE TO LONG-TERM EXPOSURE TO ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS NEAR THE CELL TOWER, INCLUDING HEADACHES, MEMORY PROBLEMS, DIZZINESS, DEPRESSION, SLEEP, UM, DISTURBANCES.
AND WITH THIS TYPE OF EVIDENCE, THE WHO IN 2011 CLASSIFIED RADIO FREQUENCY AS A CLASS TWO B POSSIBLE CARCINOGEN.
I'M VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THIS GLEN LAKE PROPERTY AND SUGGEST OTHER LOCATIONS OUTSIDE THESE 3000, THE THE 3000 FEET FROM HOMES, PARKS, CHILDREN'S LEARNING AND PLAY CENTERS.
THIS PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT IS A TERRIBLE IDEA FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS IT WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR HOME, OUR LAND VALUES IN LAKE OLYMPIA, THUS DECREASING THE, THE TAX BASE FOR MISSOURI CITY AND ONLY BENEFITING ONE PERSON VERSUS THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WAS THE BASIS OF PERFORMING THE 2016 MISSOURI CITY FUTURE LAND USE COMPREHENSION PLAN, INCLUDING AS GRACE MENTIONED, THE
[00:55:01]
USE OF ZONING TO PROTECT CITIZENS OF MISSOURI CITY.NEXT STEP WE HAVE MS. DEBORAH.
I LIVE AT 4 41 15 CEDAR BEND DRIVE.
I'M A RESIDENT OF MISSOURI CITY FOR 40, 41 YEARS.
LIVED IN LAKE OLYMPIA FOR 24 YEARS.
UM, MY HOUSE BACKS UP TO MISTY HOLLOW AND, UM, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CORONA DEL MAR, WHICH IS WHERE THE CELL TOWER WILL IS PROPOSED.
UM, THE TWO TOWERS THAT ARE NEAR FORT BEND TOLLWAY.
UM, WHEN I HAVE MY BLINDS OPEN AT NIGHT, THE LIGHTS BLINK.
SO I SEE THE BLINKING LIGHTS INSIDE MY HOUSE.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW BRIGHT THE LIGHTS ARE GONNA BE BLINKING FROM ANOTHER TOWER THAT'S RIGHT IN MY BACKYARD.
UM, WHILE I SUPPORT BETTER CELL RECEPTION IN OUR AREA.
THERE'S MINIMAL CONSIDERATION FOR THE LOCATION IT'S WITHIN, UM, VERY CLOSE TO THE FENCE LINE, PROTECTING THE HOMES THAT BACK UP TO THIS TRACT OF LAND WHERE THE CELL, THE CELL PHONE TOWERS PROPOSED.
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY I'M, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROPOSAL NOT ONLY FOR THE AESTHETICS, BUT FOR THE HEALTH RELATED ISSUES.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE EFFECT OF PROPERTY VALUES ON OUR HOMES.
WE DON'T WISH TO REVIEW REDUCE THE LIVE VALUE OF LIVING IN LAKE OLYMPIA.
CELL TOWERS NEAR HOMES, DROP PROPERTY VALUE AND NEW RESEARCH PUBLISHED IN THE INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF HOUSING MARKET AND ANALYSIS ON CELL TOWERS AND PROPERTY VALUE FOUND A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE PROXIMITY OF CELL PHONE TOWER BASED STATIONS TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY SALE PRICES.
THE CLOSER A TOWER IS TO RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, THE HIGHER THE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTIAL SALE PRICE.
UM, WHICH OF COURSE I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY IT DECLINES.
OUR PROPERTY VALUE CAN GO UP TO 9.7% WITHIN TOWER VISIBILITY RANGE.
AND THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN BECAUSE WE BACK RIGHT UP TO WHERE THE PROPOSED, UM, WHERE THE PROPOSED SITE IS.
OTHER DISADVANTAGES OF LIVING NEAR CELL TOWN TOWER, CELL PHONE TOWERS ARE THAT RESIDENTS, UM, WHO LIVE NEAR ANTENNAS AND CELLULAR TOWERS ARE PRONE TO COMPLICATIONS SUCH AS ANXIETY, SKIN ISSUES, HEARING LOSS, SIGHT DISTURBANCES, MEMORY LOSS.
I DON'T NEED ANY MORE HELP WITH THAT.
UH, AGAIN, MY BIGGEST CONCERN FOR THIS SELF TOWER AT THE LOCATION THAT IT'S PROPOSED IS IT'LL BE VERY INTRUSIVE, UNATTRACTIVE, AND IT WILL SEVERELY IMPACT THE PROPERTY VALUE FOR ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO LIVE IN THIS AREA.
LAKE OLYMPIA FOCUSES IS ON BEAU, THE BEAUTY AND NATURE OF OUR LAKES AND WILDLIFE.
AND WHILE THIS IS NOT SPECIFICALLY ON OUR PROPERTY, IT BACKS UP TO THE HOMES RIGHT UP ON OUR COMMUNITY.
PLEASE CONSIDER RELOCATING THIS 155 FOOT MONOPOLE SE PHONE TOWER TO ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WOULD NOT BE NEAR OUR BACKYARDS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION.
I LIVE AT 1 7 2 3 CORONA DEL MAR.
UH, MY STREET IS ACTUALLY THE ONE WITH PARALLEL FROM THE SKETCH.
ANYWAY, THE, UH, ACCESS ROAD, I'M GUESSING IT'S NOT TO SCALE.
I'M PROBABLY WITHIN, UH, 200 FEET OF WHERE IT'LL BE.
I'M JUST SAYING IT'S GONNA HURT OUR PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH MEANS LESS MONEY FOR THE CITY.
UH, YOU CAN HANDLE THAT EASIER IF YOU MIGHT MOVE THE TOWER OVER AND FOLLOW IT DOWN TO THE END OF GLEN LAKES INTO COMMUNITY PARK AND PUT IT OVER THAT WAY BY THE SKATEBOARD THING.
UH, PEOPLE ARE IN AND OUT OF THAT FOR AN HOUR OR TWO.
I LIVE IN MY HOUSE 24 7 FOR THE LAST 11 AND A HALF YEARS.
AND, UH, IT'S A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, BUT I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU BASICALLY DO.
MY, UH, BROTHER-IN-LAW FOR A WHILE SAT ON THIS BOARD WHEN HE, UH, LIVED IN MISSOURI CITY.
AND YOUR VOLUNTEER TIME GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
APPRECIATE IT IF YOU DON'T ALWAYS HEAR IT.
[01:00:01]
I'M COMING AS A RESIDENT AND NOT AS A BOARD MEMBER.UH, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CELL TOWER.
UH, WE CONSIDER LAKE OLYMPIA A PARADISE OF NATURE WITH OPEN VIEWS.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE VISUAL IMPACT, BUT IT'S A QUESTION OF SAVING OUR WHAT WE HAVE AND NOT CHANGING IT AND NOT AFFECTING OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
YOU CAN SEE A STRUCTURE FOR AS FAR AS THREE MILES AWAY BECAUSE 150 FEET ARE ABOUT A 13 STORY BUILDING.
UH, LAKE OLYMPIA RECENTLY REJECTED A PROPOSAL FOR A CELL TOWER WITH A VERY GENEROUS LEASE OFFER.
IT WOULD, THE MONEY WOULD'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL, BUT WE WERE NOT GOING TO EXPOSE OUR RESIDENTS TO A CELL TOWER IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD COUNTED ON THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY WHEN WE HAVE HAD SIMILAR ISSUES.
ABOUT 12, 13 YEARS AGO, UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER REZONING PETITION FOR ANOTHER CELL TOWER.
SO THERE'S A PRECEDENT YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT AT THIS IN YOUR RECORDS.
THIS WAS ONE KIND OF NEAR OYSTER CREEK, UH, HIGHWAY SIX AND THE GARDEN CENTER.
WE CAME FOR THE FINAL VOTING AND TONS OF RESIDENTS.
UH, THESE ARE THE PHOTOCOPIES I, WE TURNED IN THE, THE ORIGINALS.
AND THAT'S JUST A TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
UH, WE DIDN'T FILL UP THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW, BUT IF IT COMES TO A FINAL VOTING, WE WILL COME EN MASS AND WE ASK THE CITY TO SUPPORT US.
IT'S A STONES THROW FROM FREEDOM TREE PARK, OUR MARVELOUS THREE PLUS MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
I MEAN, THE TRAIL GOES RIGHT THERE.
I HOPE THERE, THERE WASN'T SOME UNDERSTANDING.
OKAY, YOU GIVE US AN EASEMENT FOR THE TRAIL AND WE ALLOW THE TOWER.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVING THOUGHTS THAT BAD THOUGHTS THAT CAME TO MY HEAD.
AND WE REALLY ASKED FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY.
AND, UH, WE HOPE YOU LISTEN TO OUR VOICES.
IT'S NOT EASY TO, YOU KNOW, BE IN YOUR POSITION.
WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO AND WE HOPE YOU REJECT THIS PETITION.
I'M A RESIDENT OF FLAMINGO ISLAND.
I LIVED THERE FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS.
UM, WE HAVE LIVED IN FORT BEND COUNTY FOR THE PAST 27 YEARS AND MOVED FROM SUGARLAND, UH, DUE TO THE BEAUTY OF LAKE OLYMPIA, THE BEAUTY OF FLAMINGO ISLAND EVERY NIGHT, LIKE SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER, WE LOOK AT THOSE CELL PHONE TOWERS OUT NEAR THE FORT BEND TOLLWAY AND HAVE THE BLINKING LIGHTS.
TO HAVE ONE LESS THAN A MILE FROM OUR HOUSE IS GONNA DESTROY OUR VIEW.
IT'S GONNA DESTROY THE, THE, THE, THE FACT THAT WE LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO ACTUALLY BENEFITS FROM THIS.
OUR CELL PHONE SERVICE IS BETTER IN MISSOURI CITY THAN IT IS IN SUGARLAND.
RIVERSTONE AND SIENNA ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE ISSUES WITH CELL PHONE SERVICE.
NOT MISSOURI CITY, NOT LAKE OLYMPIA, NOT QUAIL VALLEY.
I, UM, HAVE HERE 27 SIGNED PROXY VOTES OF PEOPLE PROTESTING THIS.
AND AS MARIE SAID EARLIER, UH, WE'LL FILL THE ROOM AND WE'LL GET EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT.
NO RESIDENT WANTS A CELL PHONE TOWER IN THEIR BACKYARD.
THIS NEEDS TO BE PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT IS NOT RESIDENTIAL.
SO, AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
AND, UM, OH, AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, I KNOW THAT, UM, MARIE SAID THAT THEY, LAKE OLYMPIA TURNED DOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, A LEASE FOR THIS AND IT WAS WELL OVER SIX FIGURES.
I MEAN, BUT WHO DOES IT BENEFIT? IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS, THE PEOPLE THAT PAY THE TAXES,
[01:05:01]
THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND THINK THAT THEY'RE LIVING IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GONNA HAVE CELL PHONE TOWERS RIGHT IN THEIR BACKYARD.AND WHO DO I TURN THESE INTO OR DICTA? OKAY, CHAIRMAN, THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED UP.
THEN, UH, WE'LL, A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, A MOTION TO SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO, CONSIDER A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
I HAVE A QUESTION MAYBE FOR THE, THE OWNER IS, WHAT IS THE LIGHTING PROPOSED ON THE TOWER, IF ANY? SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER AND ALL THE RADIO FREQUENCIES OVER TO THE FAA, UM, THAT'S OUR INITIAL PROCESS.
FAA CAME BACK AND SAYS THERE'S NO LIGHTING REQUIRED FOR THIS TOWER.
SO THERE'LL BE NO LIGHTING ON THIS TOWER WHEN THEY GET OVER ABOUT 300 FEET, WHICH YOU'LL SEE FOR THE ONES THAT ARE A THOU OVER A THOUSAND FEET OFF IN DISTANCE.
THAT'S WHY THOSE ARE LIGHTED BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT PLANES, BUT OURS IS LOW AND DOES NOT REQUIRE LIGHTING.
AND WHAT ABOUT LIGHTING FOR THE SITE ITSELF? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THE SITE ITSELF? THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO LIGHTS.
ANY, SO THERE'S NO SERVICE ENTRY.
THERE'S NO GATE, THERE'S NO POP WIRE FENCE.
SO THERE, THERE'S A FENCE AROUND THE GATE, BUT THERE'S NO LIGHTING ON THAT FENCE.
SO HOW THE TECHNICIANS SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY GO IN THE DAYTIME, IT'S DURING WORKING HOURS, THEY'RE NOT GOING AND WORKING AT NIGHT.
SO HOW DID WE END UP WITH THIS LOCATION SO FAR, LOOKING AT THE, AT THE, THE LAYOUT SOUTH? MM.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT ACTUALLY SOUTH, BUT, UM, UH, IN THAT PROPERTY, IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT PICKED THAT LOCATION? YEAH, SO WE SIGNED A LEASE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, HOUSE BEVERAGE.
UM, HE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WITH US.
UM, AND THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WORKED BEST FOR HIM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HE HAS DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE REST OF THE PROPERTY.
AND SO WE DIDN'T, HE DEFINITELY DIDN'T WANT IT IN THE MIDDLE.
HE DIDN'T WANT IT TO IMPEDE ON THE, THE BIKE TRAILS ARE GONNA BE WRAPPING AROUND IT INTO THE PARK.
AND SO OUR SOLUTION WAS THAT LOCATION TO, TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T IMPEDE ON ANY OF HIS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SINCE THIS IS HIS PROPERTY.
OH, I DON'T, I'D HAVE TO MEASURE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE, THE, THAT LAST HOUSE ON THE CORNER TO COMMUNITY PARK, PARK IS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE BALLPARK IS? THERE'S NO SCALE.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, WE TECHNICALLY HAVE.
SO, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, UH, THE, SHE MENTIONED THAT THE CITY WAS APPROACHED ABOUT PUTTING IT IN THE PARK, I GUESS, AND THAT WAS TURNED DOWN.
UM, I MEAN, THERE'S A, SO JUST MY HISTORY IS I USED TO LIVE ON MISSION VALLEY.
I LIVED BEHIND THE PARK, LIVED ON, AND I HAD A TWO STORY HOUSE.
YOU COULDN'T GO TO BED BEFORE NINE O'CLOCK 'CAUSE THE LIGHTS FROM THE PARK AND THE SOUND OF THE DINK OF A BASEBALL BEING HIT WITH ALUMINUM BAT IS STILL SEARED INTO MY HEAD FROM LIVING THERE.
WAS THERE THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING THAT IN THAT AREA WHERE THE, THAT COMPLEX CURRENTLY EXISTS, THERE'S ALREADY TALL LIGHT TOWERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
DID THE CITY ENTERTAIN THAT? SO I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT.
UM, I DON'T THINK THE CITY FORMALLY DENIED A REQUEST,
[01:10:01]
BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON, UM, IF IT WAS CONSIDERED, IF IT WAS RECEIVED.THE ESTIMATE ON THE WIDTH, OBVIOUSLY IT, IT CHANGES, UM, BASED ON THE DATE, BUT THE ESTIMATE IS ABOUT 400 FEET, UM, AT ITS PEAK.
UM, FROM SIDE, FROM THE LAKE OLYMPIA RESIDENTIAL SIDE TO THE COMMUNITY PARK SIDE.
SO ON THE LOOKING, LOOKING AT IT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE 400 FEET OR THE LEFT HAND SIDE? FOUR OH FEET.
OH, THERE, THAT MAP MIGHT HAVE A, WAIT, IT'S 3 50, 3 57 FROM THERE TO THAT CORNER ON THE EAST.
FROM THE COMMUNITY PARK PROPERTY LINE DOWN TO THE TOWER, IT'S ABOUT 3 57 ACCORDING TO THESE PLANS.
AND THEN FROM THE TOWER TO THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE RESIDENTIAL DOWN SOUTH, IT'S 98 POINT SOMETHING FEET 0.7.
SO ABOUT 400 FEET APPROXIMATELY.
UM, WHERE ARE WE? WE, UH, WE ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION? WE HAVE MORE DISCUSSION.
I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS THAT IT, IT'S, SORRY.
WHAT IS YOUR MOTION? I, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO, OR A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, THAT MOTION FAILS.
I, I GUESS I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND, AND, AND TRY AND THERE IS OPEN SPACE IN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY TO POSSIBLY MOVE THAT TOWER, NOT IDEALLY VERY FAR AWAY, BUT FARTHER AWAY FROM THE, THE RESIDENCE THAT ARE THERE.
UM, AND ALSO POSSIBLY LOOK AT PUTTING IT INSIDE THE CITY PARK AREA.
AGAIN, I'M SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD OBJECT TO THAT, BUT GIVEN OUR ABILITY ON WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT CONSIDER, I THINK MAYBE THE OPTION OF TRYING TO FIND HER A BETTER, A BETTER SITE FOR IT VERSUS AEA OR NAY IS A DIFFERENT, IS AN APPROACH WE, WE COULD LOOK AT.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE APPROACHED THAT.
I, I WOULD SAY THAT TO ME WE HAVE TO DISAPPROVE THE SUP AND, AND THEY WOULD'VE TO GO BACK AND FIND A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
WELL, NO, I KNOW ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WE LOOKED AT A, A LIST STATION OVER THERE OFF OF TEXAS PARKWAY, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LOCATION FOR THAT.
AND WE HAD, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WENT BACK AWAY, LOOKED AT THE ALTERNATIVES THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED, WHICH WERE NORTHWEST OF THERE SOMEWHERE AND CAME BACK.
BUT, UM, I MEAN, IF, IF IT'S, AGAIN, I'M NEW AT THIS, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU DENY THE, IF, IF YOU PUT THROUGH IT WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, CAN WE ALSO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS MIGHT BE MORE, WELL, CAN WE JUST TABLE IT? UH, NEVER, NEVER HAD A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE HAD TO DO THIS
BUT I, THE SHADOW OF THIS TOWER GOES ON A HOUSE.
HOW DO I, I HAVE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON, I MEAN, WE, I WAS TOLD ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES AND DATA THAT THEY HAVE DOCUMENTED DATA.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AND THEN WE CAN, I I HAVE NO IDEA HOW, UH, AND I THINK THE FIRST, THE SMALLER TOWERS THAT WE APPROVE, THE ONE THAT'S IN CO VALLEY WITH THE, THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S 150 FEET.
[01:15:01]
150 FEET.WELL, I KNOW THE FIRST SPEAKER TONIGHT, I BELIEVE HAS A LETTER IN THE PACKAGE HERE THAT HAS THE REFERENCES TO THE NAR AND ANOTHER STUDY LINKED IN THERE.
I MEANT, AGAIN, THAT'S THE FIRST I'D SEEN OF THEM.
'CAUSE I THINK THOSE ARE NEW TO US, BUT, UM, WELL, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE CAN TABLE THIS IF, IF WE, BUT, BUT AGAIN, WE ALREADY HAD THE DISCUSSION EARLIER, YOU KNOW, IF WE TABLE SOMETHING, WE NEED SOME PARAMETERS AROUND IT.
UM, I, I AGREE THAT IDEALLY THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO FIND A BETTER LOCATION FOR THIS.
UM, AND, BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE THE BEST VEHICLE TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M STRUGGLING.
SO IF, IF IT'S HELPFUL, UM, COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY MENTIONED THE, THE LIFT STATION.
I BELIEVE, UM, TO HIS EARLIER POINT WHEN WE APPROVED IT, WE HAD REQUESTED THAT THE, UM, PROPOSER, UH, EITHER PRO PROVIDE A NEW LOCATION OR GIVE US REASONS WHY OTHER LOCATIONS WEREN'T OPTIMAL.
AND THEY DID THE LADDER, I BELIEVE, WHEN THEY CAME BACK TO US.
AND, AND, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, BASICALLY IS BEING GIVEN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION ON THIS PROPERTY AS ITS ONLY OPTION.
AND SO THEY, THEY WERE, THEIR HANDS WERE TIED THERE.
SO THEIR ONLY OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO, TO GO BACK AND TRY TO FIND A LOCATION NOT ON THIS PROPERTY, OR IF THE APPLIC OR IF THE PROPERTY ONLY WOULD DECIDE THAT THEY COULD MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
TO ME, THOSE ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS.
AND, UM, I, I MEAN, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THE, THE BEST APPROACH IS TO, UH, WELL, SHORT OF HAVING THE APPLICANT WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION WOULD BE TO DENY IT, THEN THAT'S MY MOTION.
FOR A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE HAVE A, A MOTION FOR A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION AND WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AND THE, THE BASIS FOR THE NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION IS THE, HOW SHE DESCRIBED GOING THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS OF THE PROPERTY THAT SHE SAID THERE ARE NO OTHER OPTIONS.
150 FOOT TOWER ON THE BORDER OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE.
I DON'T THINK THAT VETTING MEETS IT SHOULDN'T MEET OUR CRITERIA.
SAY, OKAY, YOU DON'T HAVE ANOTHER CHOICE.
IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE APPROVED THESE TOWERS, THERE WERE ALL SORTS OF PIGGYBACK THAT ARE GOING ON THAT TOWER.
SO LOTS OF SERVICES WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THE PEOPLE AROUND MISSOURI CITY.
ONE LITTLE AREA THAT KNOW HOLDS BARR.
THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE 150 FOOT TOWER AND IT'S 98 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LOT.
THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, I DIDN'T REALLY PICK THAT UP UNTIL I STARTED TRYING TO LOOK AT THE SCALE.
BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE 250 YARD, 250 FOOT BUMPER, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS ANYWHERE NEAR THAT CLOSE TO MM-HMM.
SO, SO FOR CLARIFICATION, THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR IS TO DISAPPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
SO VOTING NAY AS AN EXAMPLE, WOULD APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION VOTING YES.
FOR THE AMENDMENT WOULD DISAPPROVE.
SO THIS IS TO FORWARD A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
AND, AND, AND IF, IF WE DO THAT, THE APPLICANT COME BACK, CAN COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR THE CELL TOWER AND BRING IT BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, IF YOU LOOK TO FORWARD A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, THEN THE APPLICANT COULD WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION, UM, OR THE APPLICANT CAN MOVE FORWARD AND TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE, THE COMMISSION.
BUT IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THEM FROM COMING BACK WITH A DIFFERENT LOCATION AS WELL.
I, NO, IF THEY, IF THEY COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT LOCATION, WE WOULD GO BACK THROUGH THE NOTICE PROCESS OBJECTIVELY.
TECHNICALLY THEY, THEY WOULD WITHDRAW APPLICATION START OFF WITH A NEW LOCATION.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND CAST OUR VOTES PLEASE.
[a. Gas Stations]
[01:20:09]
OKAY.SECTION NINE, ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS, A GAS STATIONS PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR AND AGAINST PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING THE USE OF PROPERTY FOR GASOLINE SERVICE STATIONS THROUGHOUT MISSOURI CITY.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS.
I'M GONNA TAKE THIS ONE AND, UH, PRESENT.
UM, SO JUST AS A RECAP, UM, THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, ON, UH, GASOLINE SERVICE STATIONS.
UH, CURRENTLY, UH, GASOLINE SERVICE STATIONS, GAS STATIONS ARE CONSIDERED WHAT WE CALL A USE BY RIGHT IN COMMERCIALLY ZONED DISTRICTS HAVING AN LC, THREE OR MORE INTENSE, UH, ZONING DESIGNATION.
UM, GAS STATIONS ARE NOT PERMITTED IN ANYTHING LESS INTENSE THAN THAT.
UM, SO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, COMMERCIAL AREAS OR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, GAS STATIONS ARE NOT CURRENTLY, UM, PERMITTED BASED ON CONCERNS RECEIVED, UM, IN TERMS OF THE LOCATION OF, UH, GAS STATIONS IN PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, CLUSTERING OF GAS STATIONS IN DIFFERENT AREAS, UM, AND THEN POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
UM, THESE AMENDMENTS ARE BEING PROPOSED AND BROUGHT, UH, BEFORE YOU, UM, FOR THAT CONSIDERATION.
SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED, UM, IN YOUR PACKETS, UM, INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.
UM, SO SECTION SEVEN IS WHERE THE USE BY RIGHT REGULATIONS ARE.
UH, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WOULD NOT CHANGE THAT.
UM, SO IT WOULD STILL BE GAS STATIONS PERMITTED AS A USE BY RIGHT IN LC THREE OR MORE INTENSE, UH, DISTRICTS.
HOWEVER, WHAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WOULD DO WOULD ADD A REQUIREMENT FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL, UM, IF THAT GAS STATION OR IF THAT, UH, DISTRICT THAT THE GAS STATION IS SEEKING TO LOCATE IN, UM, IS ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
SO IF IT'S AN LC THREE DISTRICT, LC FOUR DISTRICT, OR INDUSTRIAL THAT DOES NOT HAVE A COMMON PROPERTY LINE WITH A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THEN IT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE A USE BY RIGHT MEANING THE GAS STATION WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE SUP APPROVAL PROCESS BEFORE GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
IF THE PROPERTY DOES SHARE A COMMON LINE WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THEN AN SUP UM, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL WOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE IT CAN GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
ADDITIONAL TO THAT SUP APPROVAL FOR THOSE LOCATIONS, THERE ARE SOME PARAMETERS THAT, UM, ARE PROPOSED IN THE AMENDMENT TO CONSIDER, UM, REQUIRING, UH, A PERMIT OR REQUIRING, UH, THAT THE GAS STATION ONLY, UH, BE LOCATED WITHIN 200 FEET OF AN INTERSECTION, RE UM, LIMITING THE NUMBER OF GAS STATIONS, UM, AT THE INTERSECTIONS BASED ON THE TYPE OF STREET.
UM, SO ARTERIAL STREETS, UM, VERSUS COLLECTOR STREETS VERSUS LOCAL STREETS.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE BRING OUR ENGINEERING, UH, PROFESSIONALS IN, UM, WITH STREET DESIGN, ROAD DESIGN CAPACITY OF THE STREETS, UM, ARE THE DISTINGUISHING FACTORS BETWEEN, UH, THOSE TYPES OF STREET TYPES.
SO PERMITTING A MAXIMUM OF TWO OF THOSE CORNERS.
UM, IF IT'S A LARGER ARTERIAL, UM, STREET THAT HAS CAPACITY TO, UM, UH, FACILITATE MORE TRAFFIC, IF IT'S A SMALLER, MORE LOCALIZED, UM, STREET AND COLLECTOR, THEN IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO ONE CORNER, UM, AT THAT INTERSECTION.
THIS WOULD ALSO HAVE REQUIREMENTS ON THE LOCATION FOR AIR PUMPS AND VACUUMS THAT, UH, THOSE COULD NOT BE WITHIN 150 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE.
AGAIN, ALL OF THIS WOULD BE ONLY ON THOSE, THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE WOULD BE APPLICATION COMPLETENESS REQUIREMENTS, UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE PROVIDING AN INVENTORY OF EXISTING GAS STATIONS, UM, A SITE PLAN WHICH, UM, THE COMMISSION, UH, IS USED TO WITH ZONING CASES.
UM, BUT THE GAS STATION WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE AIR PUMP LOCATION, THE VACUUMS, UM, AND OTHER, UH, SERVICE AREAS ON THAT PROPERTY ANTICIPATED MAINTENANCE NEEDS, UM, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT MAY NEED TO BE, UH, SUBMITTED TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION.
UM, THERE'S A, A MAP THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET SHOWING
[01:25:01]
ALL THE GAS STATIONS LOCATED THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.UM, WITH THOSE GAS STATIONS, IF AMENDMENTS ARE, UM, ADOPTED, UM, AND THOSE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS DON'T CONFORM, UH, TO ANY AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ADOPTED, UM, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THAT GAS STATION WOULD IMMEDIATELY HAVE TO CEASE BUSINESS.
UM, THEY WOULD BECOME WHAT'S CALLED THE NON-CONFORMING USE.
AND THAT'S OUT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SECTION 16 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE PROVIDES THE PARAMETERS BY WHICH IF A USE BECOMES A NON-CONFORMING USE, MEANING THE REGULATIONS HAVE NOW CHANGED, THEY WERE LEGALLY OPERATING, UM, AT ONE POINT REGULATIONS HAVE CHANGED AND IT'S NO LONGER, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS, UM, THEN IT WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE PROVIDED THAT, UH, IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF A NON-CONFORMING USE.
UM, SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, SURROUNDING THAT, UM, IF NEED BE.
THE NEXT STEPS FOR THIS, UM, ARE THIS IS, UH, YOU ARE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
UM, BECAUSE WE RELEASE, UH, THESE PRELIMINARY AMENDMENTS, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION TO RECEIVE INPUT, UM, ON THESE AMENDMENTS AS WELL AS, UH, RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC.
WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION IN A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, UM, BEFORE ASKING YOU TO, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, ON SENDING THIS FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE ON THE NOTICING, BUT I WILL JUST, UH, COMMENT TO SAY THAT NOTICE WAS PROVIDED, UM, TO ALL GAS STATION LOCATIONS, PROPERTY OWNERS OF GAS, GAS STATION LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, AND SO THAT, UH, NOTICE, UH, WAS PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UM, THE NEWER STANDARDS, UH, THAT HAS A CERTAIN STATEMENT THAT IS INCLUDED ON THOSE NOTICES.
SO THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.
AND, UM, I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
SO WE'D WANNA DO THAT AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA.
ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN THE OTHER IS INPUT AND DISCUSSION.
SO LET'S DO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
CLYDE GEORGE, TEXAS PETROLEUM GROUP.
WE OWN FOUR GAS STATIONS IN MISSOURI CITY, KNOWN AS TIMEWISE.
WE'RE LOCATED 11 1 11 WILCREST GREEN, HOUSTON, TEXAS 7 7 0 4 2.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE AND NEED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY MAYBE, AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME HERE, IS, SO WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL FOUR OF OUR LO OUR LOCATIONS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THEY'RE NOT, UH, ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINES, HOWEVER IT COULD BE.
AND IT DOESN'T REALLY DEFINE IT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS HERE THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN IS, IS THAT IT'S THE DEFINITION OF RESIDENTIAL.
IS IT MULTI-FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF THAT IS? SO THAT'S A CAUTIONARY THING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE COMMISSION IS AWARE OF IS THAT WHEN YOU WRITE THIS, THAT IS BE VERY CAREFUL IN THE WAY YOU DESCRIBE THE AREAS OF WHICH YOU MAY BE BOUNDERING OR THE GAS STATION MAY BE ING.
THE SECOND IS, IS THE USE AND HOW YOU'RE DEFINING THE USE IS GAS STATION.
ALRIGHT? SO THESE ARE ALL ENCOMPASSING TYPE OF USES THAT INCLUDE A GAS STATION OR INCLUDE THE FUELING FACILITY.
SO I THINK THAT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DRILLED DOWN ON.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA WRITE THIS, IT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN WHERE IT LOOKS AT THAT BECAUSE THERE REALLY TECHNICALLY IS NO GAS STATION.
THERE IS A FUELING FACILITY, A FACILITY THAT INCLUDES GAS PUMPS AND GAS, YOU KNOW, SERVICES AS WELL THERE AND AS WELL AS ALTERNATE FUELS.
'CAUSE THERE'LL BE ALTERNATE FUELS IN THERE.
SO THAT DEFINITION IS A LITTLE BIT WORKY.
ONE OF THOSE REASONS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALSO TOO IS WE'RE RUNNING INTO EV EV'S A PRETTY BIG THING.
SOME OF THESE THINGS RIGHT NOW THE USES ARE, ARE REALLY SPELLED OUT ONLY FOR GAS STATIONS.
WE'RE RUNNING INTO SITUATIONS, WHEREAS WE BRING YOU EV IN, IT'S LUMPED IN UNDER A GAS STATION USE.
SO AGAIN, SOME OF THESE DEFINITIONS AND SOME OF THE THINGS, WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THESE THINGS NEED TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS BEFORE YOU GO INTO A VOTE AND YOU VOTE ON SOMETHING INTO HOW IT'S WRITTEN.
UM, CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? YEAH.
HOW DID, HOW DID YOU DESCRIBE YOUR FACILITY AGAIN,
BUT IT IS A, A FUELING FACILITY WITH ALTERNATE FUELS AND IT'S GONNA LIST ALL THE ALTERNATE FUELS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE HYDROGEN, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, GASOLINE, DIESEL, UH, UH, OTHER TYPES OF, UH, UH, DIESEL TYPES, WHETHER IT'S RECYCLED DIESEL AND SO ON.
SO IT REALLY DOESN'T JUST SAY GAS STATION, BUT IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING.
SOME GROUPS WILL HAVE IT, SOME WON'T, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU'RE A SMALLER FUELING FACILITY, YOU KNOW, YOU
[01:30:01]
MAY ONLY USE, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN TYPE OF FUEL.WE HAVE SOME THAT WE'RE DOING STRAIGHT EV, SO, BUT THEY'RE STILL CLASSIFIED AS, YOU KNOW, GASOLINE STATION.
SO, UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL WE REALLY HAD TO SAY ON THAT PART OF IT.
SO IT'S TEXAS PETROLEUM GROUP, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE THE, THE FOUR LOCATIONS HERE.
AND, UH, I DON'T, I THINK WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE ON THOSE AS FAR AS THE RIGHT, UH, IN THAT, UH, PERMITTED USE.
SO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES THERE.
UP NEXT WE HAVE RAMONA BULLARD.
HI, RAMONA BULLARD LIVE AT 1931 RIPPLE CREEK, UH, FOR 30 YEARS.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, MORE GAS STATIONS ARE NEEDED.
UM, THE CHARGING OF THE STATION, YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY, UH, I'M THINKING MORE GAS STATIONS ARE NEEDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UP NEXT WE HAVE LAVO KIRK LAW.
I'M LAVAN KIRKLAND, AND, UH, I'VE BEEN STAYING IN MISSOURI CITY ABOUT 45 YEARS, AND EVERYTHING'S, ALL I KNOW IS MISSOURI CITY.
IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO BE, BUT I WANTED TO SAY, UM, I'M AGAINST THE SUB PERMIT FOR GAS STATIONS CITY AROUND ROSENBERG RICHMOND.
STAFFORD FURNITURE DON'T REQUIRE SUCH PERMITS.
THE CITY IS GROWING, AND AS MORE RESIDENTS MOVE IN THERE, WE NEED MORE FILLING STATIONS.
THE CITY SHOULD LOOK INTO GETTING MORE OF CHARGING STATIONS AROUND CITY AS WELL.
THE MODERN C STORES, UH, SHOULD, UM, ACCOMMODATE THE CHANGING STATIONS REQUIREMENTS.
THE CITY SHOULD ALSO THINK ABOUT BRINGING SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, THE C STORES OR GETTING OLD AND CITY SHOULD TALK TO THE OWNERS ABOUT REMODELING THIS GAS STATIONS WITH BETTER TECHNOLOGY.
THE CITY SHOULD ALSO THINK ABOUT ASKING GAS STATION OWNERS TO GET MORE DIESEL PUMPS FOR A BUSINESS THAT RUNS TRUCKS, DIESEL, AND AROUND CITY.
I LIVE AT 3 0 2 LOUISIANA STREET IN MISSOURI CITY.
AND I'VE LIVED IN MISSOURI CITY IN FORT BEND FOR ABOUT 13 YEARS.
UM, I TOO AGREE THAT WE DO NEED MORE, UM, C STORES AND SERVICE STATIONS IN MISSOURI CITY.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO A FORWARD LOOKING APPROACH TO, UM, OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THE ENERGY, THE REFUELING, THE CONVENIENCE STORES, AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT, THE ITEMS THAT THEY SELL HAVE BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL, ESPECIALLY DURING HURRICANES FREEZES AND ALL OF THE UNTIMELY OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
THINGS THAT COME OUR WAY, UM, THAT AFFECT NOT JUST US, BUT YOU KNOW, THE UNITED STATES AND EVERYWHERE, COVID AND EVERYTHING.
UM, I AM TOO AGAINST THE C STATIONS AND THE, OR THE C STORES AND THE STATIONS.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF EXTRA FEES THAT COME WITH BRINGING MORE BUSINESSES TO THE COMMUNITY.
A LOT OF PERMITS, A LOT OF, UM, CHALLENGES, UM, FROM THE PLANNING, BUT FROM ARCHITECTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COME, THERE'S LOTS OF DELAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MOTIVATE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
AND A LOT OF, UM, EXTRA FEES AND COMPLIANCES AND MEASURES ARE ALREADY PUT INTO PLACE.
[01:35:01]
WE NEED MORE MODERN GAS STATIONS, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL OF THE EV TYPE VEHICLES COMING AND GETTING STRONGER OUT ON THE ROAD WITH MORE PEOPLE BUYING THEM.UM, CURRENT GAS STATIONS WITHIN THE CITY ARE SMALLER SITES, AND WE NEED TO EXPAND THEM.
NOT REALLY A BUCKY'S, BUT NICER RESTROOMS, NICER, UM, WELCOMING THINGS THAT EMPHASIZE A LOT MORE AND FAMILY COMING FORWARD TO STOP THERE FOR DIFFERENT NEEDS.
BUT THE CHARGING STATIONS AND EVEN A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT AND THINGS LIKE, OR PICK UP THINGS, I KNOW MY MOM WAS ILL AND WE WERE ABLE TO STOP AT, UM, A SEA STATION AND GET FOOD TO ORDER, ESPECIALLY FOR HER WITHOUT SALT AND OTHER THINGS.
UM, AND MISSOURI CITY CONTINUES TO GROW AND THE POPULATION, YOU KNOW, NEEDS DEMAND OF WHAT C STORES AND GAS STATIONS DO OFFER.
AND THERE'S A LOT MORE DIESEL VEHICLES ON THE ROAD.
YOU COULDN'T EVEN PURCHASE ANY OTHER TYPE OF VEHICLES, BUT DIESELS, IF YOU COULD EVEN FIND A VEHICLE OR TRUCK.
AND WE ALL KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TRUCKS IN TEXAS.
BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND WANNA TRY TO KEEP MOVING OUR CITY FORWARD.
THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS YOU HAVE.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING I MOTION.
MOVE ON TO NUMBER TWO, PLANNING, ZONING, INPUT, AND DISCUSSION.
WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? OKAY, SO I'M, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE SLIDE
UM, SO I KNOW WE'VE RECEIVED INPUT TONIGHT, UM, BUT WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED INPUT, UM, ON CONCERNS.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PRESENTING THIS, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER, UM, TO FORWARD RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO THE, THE COUNCIL.
UM, AND SO SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS WERE IN PARTS OF THE CITY, UM, THAT THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, UH, LOCATIONS THAT WERE LOCATING RIGHT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, UM, RIGHT ON, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.
UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST CLUSTERING, UH, THE NUMBER OF, OF, UH, SERVICE STATIONS THAT MIGHT BE LOCATED, UM, WITHIN A, WITHIN A PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, SO THOSE WERE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LARGER CONCERNS THAT WE, UM, RECEIVED.
UM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS, UH, THAT WE CAN KIND OF MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ALLOW FOR THOSE BUSINESSES, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO DID WE BRING THIS ON OURSELVES BY HAVING L SIX THREE DISTRICTS, BUT RIGHT UP AGAINST, I MEAN, TYPICALLY THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS ADDRESSED THAT IS THE BUFFER MM-HMM.
AND SO IF IT WEREN'T A GAS STATION, IF IT WERE ANY OTHER KIND OF LC THREE USE, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD DEAL WITH IT, RIGHT? AND SO, AGAIN, WELL, AND, AND WE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE NON-CONFORMING THING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FOR SOME OF THE EXISTING ONES, THAT'S GONNA BE A REAL PROBLEM.
MAYBE NOT TODAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY EVER WANNA MODERNIZE, BASICALLY WE'RE TELLING 'EM THEY, THEY CAN'T, WELL, LET ME, LET ME RETRACT THAT.
WE'RE TELLING THEM THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE SUP AND DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WRITE THE ORDINANCE, YOU MAY MAKE IT SO THEY CAN'T, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO PROBABLY LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT PARAMETERS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND, AND YOU COULD PROBABLY IDENTIFY THE STATIONS WHERE IT MIGHT BE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.
UM, SO I MEAN, I, AGAIN, I JUST, UH, IT'S HARD TO KNOW, PERCEIVE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX.
UM, SO DOES THIS GO BACK TO THE ISSUE FOUR YEARS AGO OVER IN DISTRICT A WHERE A GAS STATION WENT IN WITH THE C STORE, THE RESIDENTS REALLY DIDN'T WANT IT, BUT THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING YOU COULD DO TO STOP IT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE ZONING WAS.
THEY COMPLIED WITH EVERYTHING THE CITY HAD AND THAT STATION WENT IN.
IS THAT THE MAIN DRIVER FOR IT? YOU, YOU REMEMBER THE INCIDENT I'M TALKING ABOUT? THERE WERE CONCERNS RECEIVED ON, ON THAT LOCATION.
'CAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS A HUGE ISSUE WITHIN THE CITY, WITH CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYTHING
[01:40:01]
ELSE.SO IS IT MORE THAN JUST ONE ISSUE IN THE PAST? I KNOW WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF 'EM LIKE THIS NOW.
YEAH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, THAT MAY FALL UNDER THAT SAME GENERAL CATEGORY.
UM, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY A MORE RECENT ONE.
UM, THAT'S RAISED, RAISED CONCERNS AND ALARMS, BUT WE'VE RECEIVED CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, FROM OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL.
SO IF, IF, DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR HOW MANY ARE NON-CONFORMING RIGHT NOW? HOW MANY GAS OR THESE FACILITIES WOULD BE NON-CONFORMING? I, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER.
UM, BUT WE CAN USE THE MAP AND GIVE AND PROVIDE THAT BACK FOR THE COMMISSION.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE A NON-CONFORMING, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SELL IT FOR THE SAME USE? 'CAUSE IT SAYS CHANGE IN YOUR, IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO HOW DO YOU DEFINE CHANGE? CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP, CHANGE IN, SO GENERALLY THE CHANGE, IF IT WERE TO CHANGE TO A CONFORMING, UM, USE, AND SO, UM, IN THIS KIND OF SCENARIO, IT WOULD BE, IT, THE CHANGE WOULD BE SUP APPROVAL.
UM, BUT SAY SOMETHING LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, DAYCARES IS THE ONE THAT POPS IN MY MIND, BUT LIKE, IF IT CHANGES TO A CONFORMING USE, IT CAN'T CHANGE BACK TO A NON-CONFORMING USE.
I THINK THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING IS WHAT WOULD TRIGGER THE CHANGE? THE, YEAH, I MEAN, SO IT, IT, WHEN THE ORDINANCE GOES IN EFFECT, IT'S A, IT'S A NON-CONFORMING USE.
RIGHT? BUT THE, IN THE, IN THE SLIDE, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST FEW SLIDES SAID THAT, UM, IF IT'S ABANDONED, ALL, ALL THE THINGS THAT CAME, THERE YOU GO.
VIOLATION CHANGE, RIGHT? SHALL BE CEASE AND TERMINATED.
I UNDER, I UNDERSTAND WHAT BOTH OF THESE ARE, BUT WHAT IS CHANGE? WHAT'S THE THIRD ONE? DOES THAT MEAN IF IT'S SOLD THAT IT CAN NO LONGER BE OPERATED AS A GAS STATION? SO, SO GENERALLY, UM, SELLING THE BUSINESS DOES NOT TRIGGER THE CHANGE.
UM, USUALLY IT'S CHANGING ANYTHING THAT PULLS A PERMIT.
AND, AND THEY, THEY WILL HAVE TO PULL A PERMIT, UM, TO CHANGE OWNERSHIP.
UM, SO THERE IS A, A PERMIT TYPE, UM, BUT TYPICALLY THAT'S A CHANGE IN, IT'S GONE FROM A NON-CONFORMING TO CONFORMING.
YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO THAT NON-CONFORMING.
UM, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, UM, VACUUMS AND SO FORTH, WHAT ABOUT CAR WASHES? SO HOW DOES THAT FIT IN THERE? AND SECONDLY, UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY ABANDON IT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOCATION THAT'S GOT A BUNCH OF FLAMMABLES STORED UNDERGROUND, UH, I KNOW, DON'T KNOW WHAT BONDS OR WHATEVER THOSE, THOSE LOCATIONS HAVE TO KEEP, BUT IF IT'S ABANDONED, WHO DOES THAT FALL TO FOR REMEDIATION, ET CETERA? HIGHLY REGULATED.
WHAT'S THAT? THE STATE? I MEAN, IT'S HIGHLY REGULATED.
I'VE, I'VE TA I'VE TAKEN OUT HUNDREDS OF UNDERGROUND TANKS AND PLANTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW.
IS THAT AN ISSUE? NOW? DO WE CREATE A PROBLEM FOR OURSELVES IF WE DO THIS AND SOMEBODY WALKS AWAY? 'CAUSE SOME OF THESE MAY NOT BE, THESE MAY BE OLDER LOCATIONS THAT, THAT'S JUST NOT WORTH THE EFFORT.
SO, AND SO, AND THOSE, THOSE MITIGATION EFFORTS WON'T CHANGE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE ADDITIONAL REGULATION, IF IT IS ABANDONED, THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD STILL BE RESPONSIBLE, UM, FOR REMOVING THOSE TANKS AND THEN MITIGATING ANY KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
BUT IF THEY WALK AWAY, OKAY, I'M GOOD.
UH, ON THE, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, UM, IT TALKS ABOUT A 200 FEET.
WHAT IS THE CRITERIA RIGHT NOW? OR DO WE HAVE A CRITERIA FOR GAS STATION LOCATIONS? RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.
SO THIS, THIS IS SUGGESTING IMPOSING A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT, BUT, BUT THERE'S STILL BUFFER REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT FROM BETWEEN LC THREE AND RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? SO THERE'S, THERE'S BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND NOT AND RESIDENTIAL.
UM, SO IF IT IS A COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY THAT'S DEVELOPED, THEN THERE ARE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS THAT IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, 20 FEET AT MINIMUM OF 20 FEET, UM, ON THAT COMMON LINE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE BUFFERING.
SO NO MASONRY WALLS, NO MASONRY, IF YES.
SO IF IT'S COMMER, IF IT'S COMMERCIAL ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, IT DOES TRIGGER THE MASONRY WALL REQUIREMENT.
BUT SO WE MAY HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE THAT ISN'T THE CASE NOW FOR A, A GAS STATION LOCATION IF, IF IT'S NOT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T FALL UNDER THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT.
WELL, NO, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE
[01:45:02]
LC THREE GAS STATIONS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL WHERE WE HAVEN'T ENFORCED THE, THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING MASONRY WALLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? NO.UM, ANY, ANY GAS STATION THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED, AS LONG AS THOSE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE, HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO, UM, INSTALL MASONRY WALLS.
WHERE THEY'RE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
AGAIN, SO THAT'S BEEN OUR APPROACH TO HAVING A COEXISTENCE MM-HMM.
AND YOU, THERE ARE MAYBE ONE OR TWO OUT THERE THAT PREDATE THAT REQUIREMENT, AND SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A MASONRY WALL THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? THIS IS THE DISCUSSION ONLY ITEM TONIGHT.
SO THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET INPUT INTO THE STAFF AND THEY CAN, UH, COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND SEE WHERE WE ARE.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? YES.
WELL, I, I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL'S GONNA BE MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN THIS BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP FROM THAT GAS STATION YEARS AGO THAN, THAN WE, WE MIGHT TAKE NOT, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T TAKE THE SAME TYPE OF INTEREST IN IT.
SO, UM, THE ONE GENTLEMAN'S COMMENTS ABOUT DEFINING GAS STATION AND STUFF LIKE, BUT THAT TO ME THAT'S VERY VALID AND VERY RELEVANT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A GAS STATION ANYMORE.
BACK, BACK WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GAS STATION STATIONS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A SERVICE STATION, NO LESS GARAGE.
YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD FIX YOUR CAR TOO.
SO, UH, IF THAT'S ALL ON THAT ITEM, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
[a. Comprehensive Plan Update]
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, SO I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET.
SO I'LL JUST BE PROVIDING A VERY BRIEF UPDATE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, AND KIND OF TO JUST GO OVER, I KNOW WE'VE GONE OVER A FEW TIMES BEFORE, BUT, UM, TO GO OVER OUR PURPOSE, WHEN WE SET OUT ON THIS PROCESS BACK IN JUNE A WHOLE SIX MONTHS AGO, UM, WE HAD THREE KEY ITEMS THAT WERE LEADING THE PURPOSE.
AND THOSE WERE TO ENSURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE 2017 COMP PLAN ARE STILL RELEVANT TODAY.
UM, WE ESTABLISH A COLLECTIVE VISION FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THE REMAINING PARCELS IN THE CITY, AND TO EXAMINE AND SEE IF ANY OF THOSE IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION TOOLS THAT WE HAVE ARE CREATING BARRIERS FOR THAT COLLECTIVE VISION, UM, SUCH AS ZONING OR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
AND SO TO MEET THAT PURPOSE, WE HAVE THREE STUDY AREAS.
UM, THE FIRST IS THE UNDEVELOPED LAND, TAKING A LOOK AT, UH, THE POTENTIAL OF THE PRESERVATION OF THE REMAINING LAND AND SEE WHAT DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL, UM, THE REMAINING PARCELS HAVE SINCE WE HAVE SO LITTLE LEFT.
UH, THE SECOND STUDY AREA ARE THE T UH, THE 10 FOCUS GROUP AREAS THAT WE HAVE, THE CORRIDOR AREAS, UM, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN ORDER TO CONSIDER THE DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.
AND THEN THE THIRD STUDY AREA IS THE REDEVELOPMENT AREAS.
AND WE'VE BEEN TAKING A LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN LARGELY BUILT OUT ALREADY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL THERE.
SO TO KIND OF GO OVER THE TIMELINE, I DO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THIS TIMELINE THAT I'LL KIND OF GO OVER A LITTLE BIT LATER.
BUT, UM, WE ARE NOW ON NOVEMBER, AND SO WE HAVE WRAPPED UP OUR FOCUS GROUP, UH, MEETINGS WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAD OUR VERY SUCCESSFUL JOINT MEETING, OUR CITY BUS TOUR IN OCTOBER, AND SO WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING ALL OF THAT DATA.
AND SO IN THIS MONTH OF NOVEMBER, UM, WE'LL BE PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER, UM, AND PUTTING TOGETHER DRAFT FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND HOPE TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU ALL, UM, HOPEFULLY DURING OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND SO TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE FINDINGS OF OUR QUESTIONNAIRE, UM, SO THE QUESTIONNAIRE HAS OFFICIALLY CLOSED NOW, I THINK LAST MONTH DURING OUR MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT 53 RESPONSES.
SO AT THE CLOSE OF OUR QUESTIONNAIRE, WE ACTUALLY HAD, UM, 138 RESPONSES, SO GOT QUITE A BIT MORE, UM, DATA AND SOME OF OUR, UM, INFORMATION HAS ACTUALLY BEEN UPDATED AS WELL.
SO I THINK BEFORE THE AVERAGE, UM, YEAR OF PEOPLE THAT HAD RESPONDED THAT HAD BEEN LIVING IN MISSOURI CITY WAS ZERO TO 15.
SO NOW IT'S ACTUALLY 16 PLUS YEARS HAVE RESPONDED
[01:50:01]
AS THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY.UM, THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE RESPONDENTS IS 36 TO 55 AND ABOUT 20% OF THE PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY WORK IN MISSOURI CITY.
AND SO AGAIN, TO KIND OF GO OVER VERY BRIEFLY SOME OF THE, UM, DATA THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE SURVEY, THESE ARE ONLY A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WE ASKED RESIDENTS TO RESPOND TO.
AND SO I'LL JUST KIND OF GO OVER THOSE A LITTLE BIT.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION THAT, UM, WAS PROVIDED IN THE SURVEY WAS, RIGHT, HOW IMPORTANT THE FOLLOWING FACTORS ARE TO MAKING MISSOURI CITY A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.
AND SO A MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT RESPONDED, UM, BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THESE FACTORS ARE ACTUALLY VERY IMPORTANT TO MISSOURI CITY, INCLUDING HAVING A TOWN CENTER, UM, A CITY WITH LOTS OF DINING STORES, UM, MORE JOB OPPORTUNITIES, UH, A CITY WITH MOSTLY HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS, LOCAL BUSINESSES, A CITY THAT PRACTICES, UM, SAFE TO SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT AND PROTECT NATURE, AND A CITY THAT HAS HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WILL MAKE THE CITY FEEL AND LOOK UNIQUE.
AND A MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT, UM, THE CITY WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING WAS ACTUALLY NOT IMPORTANT TO MAKE MISSOURI CITY AN IMPORTANT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.
DID IT SHUT OFF ON YOUR COMPUTER TOO? YEAH, YEAH.
THE, THE, JUST THE DISPLAY BC IS, UH, YEAH, MAN, WITHIN A MINUTE.
DO YOU, CAN YOU ALL SEE YOUR, OH, THERE WE GO.
OKAY, SO I THINK WE HAD ALREADY COVERED THE IMPORTANT FACTORS FOR MISSOURI CITY, SO I'LL JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH WAS TO RATE HOW IMPORTANT AMENITIES ARE TO LIVE, WORK IN PLANT IN MISSOURI CITY.
AND SO A MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY BELIEVED THAT CAFES WERE REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, CORPORATE AND MEDICAL OFFICES, FINE DINING RESTAURANTS, HIGH-END RETAIL, AND AREAS FOR YOUTH, AMATEUR SPORTS VENUES.
AND A MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY, UM, BELIEVED THAT BILL BUFFETS AND FOOD HALLS, FOOD TRUCKS, ENTERTAINMENT VENUES AND NIGHTLIFE ACTIVITIES WERE NOT IMPORTANT AMENITIES TO HAVE IN MISSOURI CITY.
THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, RIGHT, HOW IMPORTANT THESE TYPES OF HOMES ARE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES TO LIVE IN MISSOURI CITY.
UH, A MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT RESPONDED BELIEVED THAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, BOTH RURAL AND LARGE ESTATE, SINGLE FAMILY, AS WELL AS THE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, AND THEY ALSO BELIEVE THAT AN ACTIVE SENIOR LIVING AND RETIREMENT COMMUNITY WAS IMPORTANT.
AND THEN A MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS DID NOT BELIEVE THAT TOWN HOMES, APARTMENTS, OR AFFORDABLE HOMES WERE IMPORTANT FOR MISSOURI CITY.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT QUESTION, RIGHT? HOW THE, HOW IMPORTANT THESE BUSINESSES OR SERVICES ARE TO HAVE WITHIN OR ADJACENT TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING.
A MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT RESPONDED BELIEVE THAT COFFEE SHOPS, UM, BAKERIES, DESSERT PARLORS, GAS STATIONS, GOURMET AND GROCERY STORES, CHILDCARE DAY CENTERS, AND OTHER SERVICES SUCH AS POST OFFICES AND PHARMACIES WERE IMPORTANT BUSINESSES TO HAVE WITHIN OR ADJACENT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT THEY DID NOT BELIEVE WERE VERY IMPORTANT WERE MECHANIC SHOPS, BEAUTY SALONS, BOUTIQUE RETAIL SHOPS, BREWERIES AND BARS, UM, PET GROOMERS, SPEARED AND WINE SHOPS, AND ABSOLUTELY NO ONE THAT RESPONDED BELIEVED THAT VAPE STORES AND HOOKAH BARS WERE
SO THAT JUST IS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE RESPONSES THAT WE GOT ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE.
UM, A LOT OF THE OTHER DATA POINTS WERE KIND OF MORE SPECIFIC TO THE CORRIDORS, AND SO WE HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH WE HAVE THOSE TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL, UM, DURING OUR NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE THOSE ARE GONNA BE VERY IN DEPTH AND WE'LL HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ALONG WITH THOSE, UM, AS WELL AS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH CORRIDOR.
AND SO ON THAT TOPIC, THE UPDATED TIMELINE.
SO AGAIN, WE SET OUT ON THIS PROCESS BACK IN JUNE.
WE ARE NOW IN NOVEMBER WHERE WE ARE WORKING ON THE DRAFT FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, AND FROM HERE WE HOPE TO HAVE, UM, ANOTHER JOINT MEETING, HOPEFULLY IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER IN ORDER TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL THE DRAFT FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, WE ALSO PLAN TO RELEASE ANOTHER COMMUNITY QUESTIONNAIRE IN ORDER TO GET PUBLIC INPUT ON
[01:55:01]
THE DRAFT FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.SO RESIDENTS WILL ALSO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE, UM, COMMENTS AND RESPONSES ON THOSE.
AND WE WILL HAVE THAT DRAFT REPORT AVAILABLE TO YOU ALL.
I KNOW ON THE PREVIOUS TIMELINE, WE WERE HOPING TO HAVE THE PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE EITHER NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER, BUT WE DID RECEIVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE HOLIDAY SEASON, SO AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THAT OPEN HOUSE AND TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, WE WILL BE LOOKING TO SCHEDULE THAT EARLY IN 2025.
SO THAT IS, AND I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A DISCLAIMER THAT THIS TIMELINE WAS UPDATED TWO DAYS, SO IT'S NOT ON THE WEBSITE FOR MY RESIDENTS THAT I KNOW ARE VERY INTERESTED IN, IN THE INFORMATION.
SO THIS WILL BE UPDATED ON THE WEBSITE TOMORROW.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? GREAT JOB.
BUT COMMENTS CAN BE AN ITEM THREE, RIGHT? YES.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE BACK AT A PUBLIC HEARING.
YES, WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS TO, UM, SIGN UP TO SPEAK.
WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I, UH, LIVE AT 4 4 2 7 PINE LANDING DRIVE, MISSOURI STATE, TEXAS.
SO I HAVE TWO THINGS I WANNA, UH, CHAT WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT.
I THINK, UM, ONE, I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THOSE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES TOGETHER AND, AND JUST BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTFUL ABOUT PUBLIC INPUT.
WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU, YOU KNOW, BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT TIMELINE, ESPECIALLY WITH HOLIDAYS, AND WAS ENCOURAGED TO SEE A LOT OF THOSE RESULTS AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, SEE SOME OF WHAT ALL OF THE GROUNDWORK'S ACTIVISM, GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM, GETTING FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE AND USE THEIR VOICE AS, AS LED TO.
I WILL SAY IF WE SEPARATED MICRO BREWERY IN BARS AND MAYBE SAID FOOD TRUCK PARK, YOU MIGHT HAVE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT RESPONSE, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN WORK ON THAT
UM, SO ONE, ONE QUICK THING I I REALLY WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF YOU KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT, UM, SOME OF YOU MAY.
UH, IT'S ABOUT PROP N UH, RECENTLY, UM, I THINK IN THIS PAST ELECTION LAST WEEK RECENTLY, UH, PROP N HAS PASSED, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW, IT BASICALLY CHANGED, UM, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE.
BASICALLY, UH, LEGAL VERNACULAR THAT, UH, ALLOWED, UH, THAT USED TO BAN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, FROM INVESTING IN, UH, I THINK IT MISSOURI CITY AND VOTING ON IT, AND NOW IT HAS BEEN CHANGED TO ALLOW FOR IT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT PASSED, THE PEOPLE VOTED ON IT.
YOU KNOW, MY THEORY IS PEOPLE DON'T DON'T READ ALL THE WAY DOWN.
IT WAS PROP N THE VERY LAST ONE.
BY THAT TIME YOU'RE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, YES, YES, YES.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S PASSED.
AND SO I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO BE OUR WATCHDOG, RIGHT? THERE'S BEEN, UH,
AND, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DOES CONCERN ME.
IT CONCERNS A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, ALRIGHT, IF I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL AND I OWNED A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, HOW WOULD I, YOU KNOW, USE MY POSITION? HOW WOULD I TRY AND INFLUENCE, YOU KNOW, TO USE MY POSITION? SO, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GUYS ARE, ARE NOW OUR WATCHDOGS.
WE WILL TRY OUR BEST WITH OUR GOOGLING AND FACEBOOKING, ET CETERA, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL ARE DECISION MAKERS, SO WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.
FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, SORRY FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW AND, UH, AND TALK ABOUT IT.
UH, THE SECOND COMPONENT IS, UM, IS, IS SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE BACKGROUND.
I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE HEARD ABOUT OUR PROJECT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SAVE SOME OF THE MISSOURI CITY WETLANDS.
AND WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE FIND, FEEL LIKE IT'S THE PERFECT TIME TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE ALSO, UM, WE'RE STILL GOING ON.
WE'RE, WE'RE
SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING MORE HANDS IN HAND, MORE HAND IN HAND WITH YOU GUYS TO TRY AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND, AND, UH, REACH SOME OF THE SENTIMENT ABOUT PRESERVING WILDLIFE, PRESERVING GREENERY, PRESERVING SOME OF THE HERITAGE WITH WATTS CEMETERY, A HISTORICAL BLACK CEMETERY FOR, UM, FREEDMEN THAT THE, UH, WAS THE ONLY PLACE BLACK PEOPLE COULD BE BURIED FOR A REALLY LONG TIME IN MISSOURI CITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND, UH, WE'LL TALK SOON.
IF I MAY, MAY I ADDRESS THE PROPOSITION END, UM, STATEMENT.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, UH, PROPOSITION N DID INDEED PASS.
HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT LET, UH, JUST CLARIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC IN CASE, UH, ANYONE IS STILL UP AND WATCHING.
UM, IT DOES NOT ALLOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO VOTE ON CONTRACTS IN WHICH THEY HAVE AN INTEREST.
AS THE PREVIOUS, UH, CHARTER PROVISION, UH, REQUIRED, MEMBERS
[02:00:01]
MUST STILL DISCLOSE IF THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN ANY TYPE OF, UH, CONTRACT OR EVEN AN ITEM BEFORE THE COUNCIL.SO I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE PROPOSITION THAT PASSED RELATES TO, UM, THE STATE LAW.
IT REQUIRES THE CITY, UH, OFFICIALS TO FOLLOW THE STATE LAW AS IT RELATES TO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, BUT IT ACTUALLY GOES BEYOND THAT AND REQUIRES DISCLOSURE FOR ALL CONFLICTS.
SO JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
ALRIGHT, AND NEXT WE HAVE MR. GUS RODRIGUEZ, PLEASE.
PNC COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE UP HERE AND ADDRESS THE GROUP.
LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, WE ARE ALMOST AT A, UH, 360, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED BACK IN MAY.
UH, JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATES IN REGARDS TO THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, AND TO SHOW APPRECIATION OR, YOU KNOW, UH, SAY APPRECIATION IN REGARDS TO THE PROCESS ON HOW IT WORKED OUT.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, UH, HOLDING THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE FOCUS GROUP AND PROVIDING US THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME, TO PROVIDE SOME INPUT INTO HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN US TO CONTINUE AS IT PERTAINS TO THE 2017 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON SOME EVENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
UH, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING, UH, MY, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS THE WATER, UH, WATERBROOK COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE, WE, WE, WE CAME HERE OR WE GOT INVOLVED BECAUSE OF AN SUP, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PUT IN FOR 5,002, UH, SIENNA PARKWAY.
WELL, SINCE THEN, THAT PROPERTY HAS SOLD, UH, INDIVIDUALS OR MEMBERS OF THE, UH, CHURCH HAS PURCHASED, YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY.
AND AT THIS POINT, UH, IT IS STILL, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE SAME CLASSIFICATION AS IT WAS BEFORE.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR NEW, UH, NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO GO AHEAD AND HOST, UH, EVENTS AT THIS PARTICULAR, UH, LOCATION.
ONE EVENT WAS HELD ON THE 31ST OF OCTOBER, AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER EVENT THAT WAS PLANNED TO TAKE PLACE ON SEPTEMBER THE, UH, NINTH.
SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE INFORMATION AND THAT WE DEFINITELY VET THE INPUT THAT WAS RECEIVED THROUGH THE FOCUS GROUP IN REGARDS TO HOW WE WILL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE STILL UNDEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD, MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITHIN, YOU KNOW, OR SURROUNDING OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMPATIBLE, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE THERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, AT THIS LOCATION, 5,002, UH, SIENNA PARKWAY, WE HAD TO CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SHOW UP AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE LOUD, YOU KNOW, UH, A, A NOISE MUSIC, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS TAKING PLACE.
ONCE AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS AREA IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
WATERBROOK COMMUNITY IS A PLACE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF ELDER INDIVIDUALS, UH, RETIRE, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS THAT USUALLY BY 8 30, 9 O'CLOCK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, SOME REST.
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THAT PEACEFUL, THAT TRANQUILITY, UH, WAS DISTURBED.
I SAY THIS BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A QUICK, I'M SORRY, SNAPSHOT AS TO WHAT WE IS THAT CAN EXPECT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE.
ONCE AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR LISTENING TO YOUR RESIDENCE.
AND IT WASN'T A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WON'T HAVE TO CLOSE IT.
SO WE ARE TO ITEM THREE, PLANNING AND ZONING, COMMISSION INPUT AND DISCUSSION.
UM, DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A, AN ANNUAL SURVEY FOR, FOR RESIDENTS? I BELIEVE IT'S A BIANNUAL BIANNUAL EVERY TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS, EVERY TWO YEARS, EVERY OTHER YEAR.
I'M, I'M WONDERING IF ONE OF THE OUTPUTS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE WORK IS INCLUDING SIMILAR QUESTIONNAIRES AT SOME CADENCE.
UM, AND I, I SAY THAT THE, UM, THE SECTION, I THINK IT WAS THREE QUESTIONS ON ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, UM, THAT WAS A CALL OUT TO ME, AND THEN I REMEMBER THE ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT GOT IT TO 138.
I THINK IT SKEWED, UM, DIFFERENT
[02:05:01]
GENERATIONS.AND SO I'M WONDERING IF WE CONTINUALLY PUT OUT THE OPTION TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK THAT WE MAY GET A MORE ROBUST, UM, RESPONSE.
'CAUSE I, I AGREE WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY, I THINK YOU HAD BROUGHT IT UP, WHEREAS 50 SOMETHING PEOPLE BEFORE AND NOW IT'S 1 38.
I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER TO GET, UH, A MORE REFLECTIVE FE FEEDBACK WITH CERTAIN QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER INPUT, DISCUSSION, COMMENTS, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE, UH, NEXT STEP, I GUESS? YEAH.