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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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SEVEN, 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. WE HAVE THREE COMMISSIONERS NOT HERE TONIGHT. MOVING WE HAVE A MOTION. WE'RE STILL

[3. READING OF MINUTES]

WAITING FOR A SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. GOOD. PLACE YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE OF MY.

YOU'RE VOTING? I MAY ABSTAIN. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE OKAY. OKAY. SAYS HERE. I'M MOVING. IT'S JUST NOT THERE. IS IT THE RIGHT SEAT? ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. YOU COULD PROBABLY REMOVE YOUR RIGHT. YES. JUST GO AHEAD AND LET HER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING. YAY! YAY! YAY! OKAY. WE WILL. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN. THANK YOU. MOVING ON THEN. COMMISSION REPORTS. CHAIR OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. I

[4. COMMISSION REPORTS]

HAVE NO REPORT. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING? JUST ONE QUICK THING. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY FOR ALLOWING ME TO TAG ALONG TO THE ULI HOUSTON URBAN PLAN WORKSHOP. I LEARNED A LOT, AND I LEARNED A LOT QUICKLY. AND PART BECAUSE MY GROUP ONE WITH OUR CREATION OF OUR SUSTAINABLE CITY. SO I FEEL LIKE I'M READY TO TAKE ON THE WORLD. SO THANK

[a. Development Services]

YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. MOVING ON. THEN WE'LL MOVE. STAFF REPORTS. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I JUST HAVE A FEW REPORTS AND UPDATES. ONE AND JUST TO REITERATE, THIS HAS BEEN POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL AS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT THERE WAS A SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER EIGHT. AND THAT SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED. SO TENTATIVELY, THAT'S BEEN MOVED TO JULY 9TH, WHICH IS YOUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING. THERE WILL NOT BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER EIGHT. SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION WAS THERE. AND THEN ALSO JUST AN UPDATE LAST MONTH WE WERE ABLE TO CONGRATULATE GRACE. BUT WE HAVE THREE AICPA NEW PLANNERS. AND JUSTIN HAVE NOW ALSO PASSED THEIR EXAMS. AND SO THEY ARE JOINING THAT CERTIFICATION. SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR TEAM AND THE ACHIEVEMENT THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK. AND THEN TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON'S COMMENTS ON ULI, WE HAD STAFF ATTENDING THAT AS WELL AND STAFF WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON THAT WINNING TEAM. SO AGAIN, MC PROUD REPRESENTING MISSOURI CITY WELL AND JUST SHOWING THE BREADTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND CREATIVITY COMING FROM OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE WERE GLAD TO PARTICIPATE IN URBAN LAND INSTITUTE IS ANOTHER

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ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES A LOT OF RESEARCH STUDIES AND DIFFERENT PROJECTS RELATED TO PLANNING WITHIN THE REGION AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO WE'RE GLAD TO PARTICIPATE IN EVENTS THAT WERE HOSTED BY THEM. AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LEGISLATIVE UPDATES THAT WE JUST WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. SO I'M GOING TO JUST UPDATE ON A SENATE BILL. 1202 SENATE BILL 1252 AND THEN EDDIE IS GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON SENATE BILL 1883. BUT JUST SO THAT THE COMMISSION KNOWS, THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION HAS NOW CLOSED AND THERE WERE SEVERAL BILLS IS A VERY ACTIVE SESSION. AND SO THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT COULD AFFECT CITY OPERATIONS. AND SO SENATE BILL 1202 HAS BEEN PASSED AND SENT TO THE GOVERNOR FOR SIGNATURE. AND SO AS OF NOW, IT HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED. IF IT IS SIGNED, IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST. AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT WOULD CHANGE HOW THE CITY PROCESSES GENERATOR PERMITS, SOLAR PANEL PERMITS, THOSE PERMITS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ENERGY GENERATION. AND SO WHAT IT WOULD DO, IT WOULD IT WOULD PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS OR CONTRACTORS TO HIRE THEIR OWN THIRD PARTY REVIEWERS AS WELL AS INSPECTORS, BASED ON CRITERIA THAT THE CITY PUBLISHES. SO IT WOULD STILL BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH ADOPTED CITY CODES, BUT IT WOULD REMOVE THE CITY FROM REVIEWING AND INSPECTING THOSE TYPES OF INSTALLATIONS. THE CITY WOULD STILL ISSUE PERMITS, SO WE'RE GOING TO NAVIGATE, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WOULD BE PROCESSED AND APPLIED, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S FOR THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY. SO THIS BILL WE ARE WATCHING TO SEE IF IT GOES INTO EFFECT. BUT WE ARE STARTING TO ADJUST OUR PROCESSES, ANTICIPATING THAT IT MAY BECOME LAW. SO WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT AS IT PROCEEDS. AND THEN EDDIE IS GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON IMPACT FEES. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT? SO WILL THE CITY STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO RED TAG THE JOB. SO RED TAG FOR VIOLATION. SO THE INSTALLATION STILL HAS TO MEET ADOPTED CITY CODES. AND SO THE CITY STILL HAS ADOPTED THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE. AND THEN THERE'S A SOLAR ENERGY CODE AS WELL. SO THOSE ADOPTED CODES STILL HAVE TO BE ADHERED TO. SO IN THAT SENSE, YES. IT'S JUST THE CITY WILL NOT BE THE PRIMARY PLAN REVIEWER OR INSPECTOR IF THEY SO CHOOSE. THANK YOU. YEAH. TALKING ABOUT SB 1883, THIS ONE DISCUSSES KEY CHANGES TO THE IMPACT FEES. FIRST OF ALL, THE BASED ON THE SLIDE SAID THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION WILL NO LONGER SERVE AS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO AND THEN ALSO ALL THE PROPOSED CHANGES. IT REQUIRES A 60 DAY NOTICE AS WELL. AND THEN CHANGES MUST BE APPROVED BY A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE. AND THEN THERE'S A MINIMUM THREE YEAR INTERVAL BETWEEN CHANGES. RIGHT NOW THAT THIS BILL, THIS BILL HAS BEEN PASSED BY THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR JUST YET. AND. AND THEN I JUST HAVE ONE MORE INTRODUCTION, WHICH IS NOT AN INTRODUCTION, BUT JUST TO RECOGNIZE SASHI KUMAR, WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE. AUDIENCE. MANY OF YOU KNOW HIM AND HAVE WORKED WITH HIM OVER THE YEARS, BUT SASHI IS NOW AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AND SO. SO SASHI WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT WILL REPORT UP TO SASHI AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO PARKS AND RECS, THE GOLF COURSE AS WELL. SO WE ARE FORMING A NEW TEAM AND STILL COORDINATING ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. BUT SO SASHI IS JOINING US HERE TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. JENNIFER. THE ITEM THAT WAS POSTPONED. IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA RIGHT. IT WAS PLANNED ORIGINALLY OKAY.

RIGHT. I DIDN'T RECALL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CITY ENGINEERING. HAVE ANYTHING ELSE

[b. Engineering]

TO REPORT SINCE SINCE WE SINCE WE SHASHI HAS ACTUALLY BEEN PROMOTED TO ASSISTANT CITY

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MANAGER. WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR A NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS RIGHT NOW. AND ALSO WE HAVE A NEW ENGINEERING ASSISTANT THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS IN OUR DEPARTMENT. SO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENT

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT]

AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION ON AGENDA OR CONCERNS, NOT ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? WE DO. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU CAN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO.

HELLO, MY NAME IS DENISHA ABEYRATHNA. I LIVE AT 427 PINE LANDING DRIVE AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO GIVE YOU. SO YEAH, WANTED TO JUST TAKE THE TIME TO COME TODAY. UNFORTUNATELY, I WON'T BE ABLE TO STAY FOR THE FULL BIT, BUT AS YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE COMP PLAN PLANNING PROCESS AND PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PROPOSED TO CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK. AND IT WAS IT WAS A PRETTY SHOCKING, PRETTY SHOCKING AFFAIR. I WOULD SAY WHAT WE HAD SEEN SHOWN TO Y'ALL, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY WEEKS BEFORE, WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD SEEN SHOWN TO CITY COUNCIL. AND SO I WAS SPEAKING FOR THE RESIDENTS. RIGHT? MY NEIGHBORHOOD ESTATES OF SILVER RIDGE, ALL OF THE FOLKS AROUND US. RIGHT. IT WAS THE MANORS, IT WAS SIENNA, IT WAS NEWPOINT ESTATES. IT WAS FOLKS FROM OAKMONT CAME FOLKS FROM WATERBROOK, FOLKS FROM WATERBROOK CAME. WE ALL SPENT HOURS AND HOURS GIVING INPUT. IT IS IT IS SUPER. IT'S JUST IT'S VERY DISINGENUOUS AND IT DOESN'T FEEL COLLABORATIVE AT ALL. WHEN WE A WHAT WE SEE FROM MEETING TO MEETING CHANGES SO VASTLY AND THEN B WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE. WE CAN TELL OUR RESIDENTS THAT YOUR INPUT WILL MATTER. RIGHT. AND IT'S INCREDIBLY UPSETTING BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR CITY, RIGHT? WE SPENT HOURS DOING THIS. AND TO SEE THIS PROCESS BE WHAT IT IS, WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A VOICE AT THE TABLE, AND THEN WE GET REALLY. WE GET SHUT DOWN, AND THEN WE HEAR THAT THIS IS APPARENTLY GOING TO BE FINALIZED WITHIN A MONTH, RIGHT? WE JUST SAW IT A WEEK AGO. SO MY ASK OF YOU IS THAT FROM NOW ON FORWARD, WE ACTUALLY HAVE REAL COLLABORATION, RIGHT? WE HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE COMING. WE HAVE ALL THESE THINGS. AND FOR ME TO GO BACK TO MY RESIDENTS AND HAVE TO TELL THEM THAT THEIR WORST FEARS HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD ALL THE HOURS, RIGHT. THE TIMES THAT FOLKS SAID, HEY, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I'M GOING TO SKIP GOING TO MY KID'S, YOU KNOW, GAME DOING THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. I DIDN'T TELL ANY OF MY RESIDENTS TO COME TODAY BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DO ANY MORE SACRIFICES FOR THINGS THAT MAY NOT ACTUALLY EVEN BE LISTEN TO.

RIGHT. IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GO BACK AND TELL OUR RESIDENTS, HOW WAS ANY OF ANY OF YOUR RESIDENTS SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN THIS PROCESS AT ALL? IF WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND WE SEE 0% OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND OUR COMMENTS REFLECTED. SO MY ASK OF YOU IS TO REALLY TAKE CONTROL OF THIS PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC FEELS HEARD, BECAUSE THIS IS IT'S HONESTLY UNACCEPTABLE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT WAS IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO THE PLATS, THE CONSENT

[a. CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA. NUMBER ONE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A REVISED CONCEPT PLAN OF PHOEBE TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF HARRIS COUNTY CID FONDREN ROAD WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THREE. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE MARKET AT WATERS LAKE FOR. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SIENNA. SECTION 85 FIVE.

CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF OWEN BEND DRIVE STREET DEDICATION PHASE TWO SIX.

CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF OWEN BEND DRIVE. STREET DEDICATION PHASE THREE.

ITEM SEVEN WAS WITHDRAWN. ITEM EIGHT WAS WITHDRAWN. ANY DISCUSSION OR. WE HAVE A MOTION.

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AND A SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK

[b. Sienna ]

YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON TO B SIENN. NUMBER ONE, CONSIDERING APPLICATION OF A REVISED CONCEPT PLAN OF SIENNA FOR C. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. SO BEFORE YOU UNDER SIENNA SEVEN B WE HAVE FOUR PLOTS. THE FIRST BEING THE SIENNA FORESEE REVISED CONCEPT PLAN. AND THIS REVISION BASICALLY JUST INCLUDES THE UPDATES TO THE SECTION BOUNDARIES INSIDE OF THE CONCEPT PLAN, AND ALSO ADDS PHASE TWO OF THE REGENCY LAKES STREET DEDICATION. THE FOLLOWING PLOT AFTER THIS, SIENNA SECTION 79 IS WITHIN SIENNA SECTION OR SIENNA CONCEPT FORESEE, WHICH IS WHY BOTH ARE SEPARATE ITEMS. OKAY. QUESTIONS. THE MOTION. STRUGGLED WITH THE SYSTEM. SECOND TO APPROVE THIS CONCEPT PLAN, GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTE PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF SIENNA SECTION 79. MOTION SECOND.

WITH THAT MOTION CARRY, I GUESS. OKAY, LET'S FLASHING COLORS AT ME HERE. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SIENNA, SECTION 70.

WITH MOTION SECOND. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM FOUR. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF SIENNA. SECTION 70. TWO A MOTION AND A SECOND. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM C FIRST CALLER

[c. First Colony MUD No. 9]

ANY MUD. NUMBER NINE PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENT FOR AND AGAINST AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FOR FIRST COLONY MUD NUMBER NINE WATER PLANT CONTAINING A PARTIAL REPLAT OF RESERVE. A FINAL PLAT OF PLANTATION CREEK. SECTION TWO A GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. SO THIS PLAT Y'ALL ALREADY APPROVED WITH ITS VARIANCES LAST MEETING, BUT PER STATE CODE BECAUSE IT IS A REPLAT OF A PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISION OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LOTS, WE HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS MOMENT. AND WE HAD NOBODY SIGN UP. OKAY.

SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE. IS THAT GOING TO BE ON OUR THING? HERE WE GO. CAST YOUR VOTE PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM TWO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF FIRST COLONY MUD. NUMBER NINE WATER PLANT. MOTION. SECOND. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. MOVE TO SECTION EIGHT ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BANQUET HALL AT

[a. Specific Use Permit - Banquet Hall at Murphy]

MURPHY. PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FORWARD AGAINST A REQUEST BY ABRAHAM THOMAS.

MATCHES CONSTRUCTION TO ZONE APPROXIMATELY 3400FT■!S. LEASED SPACE TO SCP SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, EVENT CENTER, AND TO THE EXTENT SUCH ZONING DEVIATES FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE CHARACTER MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROVIDE AN

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AMENDMENT. THEREFORE. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS PRESENTED IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE USE IN OF EVENT VENUE. SITE LOCATION IS AT 2040 FM 1092, SUITE 101. CURRENT ZONING IS LC THREE RETAIL DISTRICT AND THE SITE PLAN DOES DEPICT DEPICT A SHOPPING CENTER THAT IS CURRENTLY. EXISTING. THE. THE DEVELOPMENT IS FULLY DEVELOPED AND IS BACKED BY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT THAT IS PARTIALLY DEVELOPED AND BOTH THE COMMERCIAL SITE AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL IS OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER. TOWNHOMES DIRECTLY BEHIND THE SUBJECT SITE. BEHIND THE SUBJECT SITE ARE ALSO OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE. CURRENTLY, THERE IS ALSO AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL BETWEEN OOPS, SORRY BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH THE TOWNHOMES AND 2021, AND IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S REGULATION AS WELL. WITH THE PARKING. PARKING IS ADEQUATE. THERE IS AN EXISTING GROCERY STORE LOCATED THERE THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED, PERMITTED AND IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. PARKING WITH THE EVENT CENTER IS ADEQUATE. ACTUALLY, THERE IS ABOUT 150 PARKING SPACES AT THIS SITE THAT EXCEEDS THE USES OF AN EVENT VENUE AS WELL AS A GROCERY STORE. IN ADDITION TO THE PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DAILY OPERATIONS TO BEGIN AT 9 A.M. TO MIDNIGHT, WITH POTENTIAL EXTENDED HOURS. AND THE POTENTIAL USE WILL CAN SUPPORT THE GOAL TWO AND GOAL THREE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE PROMINENT ENTRY POINT INTO THE CITY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT, PROMOTE MORE WALKABLE, MORE WALKABLE COMMUNITY, VISUALLY APPEALING ENVIRONMENT WHILE SUPPORTING A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC USES, WHICH IS ALSO A RESPONSE TO COMMUNITY INPUT. THE SITE IS FULLY DEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.

THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED, AND THE TRAFFIC WORKSHEET HAS BEEN REVIEWED. FOR THE REQUESTED SPECIFIC USE PERMITS. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE USE WITH CONDITIONS. THOSE CONDITIONS CONSIST OF ONE. PLACES OF ASSEMBLY EVENT VENUE AT THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED ON THE SITE. PLAN SECURITY FOR ALL EVENTS DIFFERENT FROM THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL. OPERATION OF HOURS FOR EVENTS TO END NO LATER THAN 10 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY AND 12 MIDNIGHT ON THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. NOTICE WAS SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 250FT. ON MAY 9TH. A NOTICE WAS PLACED ON THE SITE ON MAY 16TH, AND THERE IS A TENTATIVE HEARING BEFORE A PUBLIC BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 21ST. OKAY, AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AS WELL. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT WHAT'S THE CAPACITY FOR THE BUILDING OR THE ANTICIPATED CAPACITY FOR THE EVENT VENUE? YEAH, IT'S 282 80. THE APPLICANT FOR THE EVENT VENUE WILL STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT BUILDING PLANS, AND IT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A FORMAL REVIEW PROCESS TO CONFIRM THE OCCUPANCY LOAD, AS WELL AS OTHER COMPLIANCE. THANK YOU. AND DID I UNDERSTAND THE. THE OWNER OF THE AREA ALSO OWNS THE TOWNHOMES BEHIND IT? DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? THEY OWN A MAJORITY OF THE TOWNHOMES, MAJORITY OF THEM. AND DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS FOR THE OWNER? THAT'S FINE. BUT DO WE KNOW IF THOSE TOWNHOMES ARE ALREADY AT CAPACITY? THEY'RE ALREADY LEASED OUT. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL THERE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS, ABOUT FOUR ADDITIONAL PROPERTY OWNERS. OKAY. I'M NOT THERE'S UNDEVELOPED LAND. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION. AND THE REASON I'M ASKING, I WAS CURIOUS IF THERE WAS ANY INPUT THAT THEY HAD ONCE THEY SAW THE SIGNAGE POSTED, IF ANYBODY HAD ANY FEEDBACK AROUND THERE, JUST GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE OF THE PROPOSED VENUE, AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY ANY PROTEST OR SUPPORT. OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST JUST KIND OF

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COMMENT, THE WALKABILITY OF THAT AREA, IT WILL NEED SOME IMPROVEMENT. YES. OKAY. YES. AND THAT IS BEING ENCOURAGED. OKAY. GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE PARKING SIDE. SO 56 SPACES ARE ALLOWED FOR A 280 PERSON VENUE. THAT'S FIVE PEOPLE PER VEHICLE. DOES THAT SEEM REASONABLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. PARKING SPACES 100. THERE'S 150 EXISTING PARKING SPACES. BUT YOU'RE SAYING 56 IS HOW MANY WOULD BE CONSUMED AS A AS AS PART OF THIS BEING 150 FOR THE GROCERY STORE AND AN ENTIRE SEPARATE BUILDING BESIDE IT. RIGHT. THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS ON THAT SITE. YES. THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS ON THAT SITE, BOTH BUILDINGS, THE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE SHARES ABOUT 150 SPACES. THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING, ABOUT 56 PARKING SPACES ALLOCATED FOR AN EVENT CENTER THAT'S GOING TO HOLD 280. SEEMS FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE. THAT'S FIVE PEOPLE PER VEHICLE, I THINK I WOULD EXPECT IF YOU THREW 280 PEOPLE IN THERE, YOU'D HAVE MORE THAN 56 VEHICLES IN THE PARKING LOT FOR IT. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THEN THE SECOND THING IS, IS TRAFFIC THERE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ACCESS. I TOOK A LOOK. THERE. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ACCESS OFF OF 1092 INTO THOSE PARKING LOTS. CORRECT. ACCESS IS OFF OF. FIFTH STREET. IS IT FIFTH STREET THAT COMES THROUGH THERE? YEAH. ACCESS IS OFF OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIDE STREET INTO THE SUBDIVISION. YES. RIGHT. SO THERE'S NO ACCESS OFF OF 1092. SO ANY TRAFFIC IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT FIFTH STREET AND GO FROM FIFTH STREET ON TO 1092 OR SOUTH, NORTH OR SOUTH. IS THERE ANY ANTICIPATION OF ALLOWING ACCESS FROM 1092 ONTO THAT PROPERTY? NO. OKAY. AND DOES IT IS THERE ANY HOW MANY EVENT CENTERS ARE SITTING WITHIN, SAY, 2 OR 3 MILES OR SAY FIVE MILES OF THIS LOCATION? THAT'S NOT REALLY A CONCERN OF OURS, BUT I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING, DOES THE CITY LOOK AT THAT AND TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT? DO WE NEED MORE EVENT CENTERS IN THESE STRIP CENTERS THAT WE'VE GOT GOING UP? THE CITY DOES TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIFIC AREAS WITHIN THIS AREA. THERE ARE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, HOWEVER, NOT FOR THE USE DIRECTLY FOR WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TODAY. INTERESTING, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ONE ON CARTWRIGHT ROAD AT CYPRESS POINT, RIGHT, THAT WE APPROVED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. TNL IS THERE, I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE FARTHER DOWN CARTWRIGHT CLOSE TO. 2234.

THERE'S ONE ON 2234. I BELIEVE YOU'VE ALSO GOT IT'S NOT AN SUV, BUT THE HAMPTON INN HAS THE ABILITY TO HOST. I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING IF THAT'S IF WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING OF PUTTING MORE EVENT CENTERS. I HATE THE STRIP CENTERS THAT ARE IN HERE, BUT NOW WE'VE GOT EVENT CENTERS GOING IN AT ALL. OH, YOU SAY YOU'VE TAKEN IT INTO ACCOUNT WE'RE OKAY HAVING MORE OF THESE, OR IS IT JUST NOT OUR PURVIEW TO VIEW? NO. AND THAT THAT IS YOUR PURVIEW AND THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY INTEREST. AND THERE'S DEFINITELY DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT ARE APPROACHING THE CITY TO LOCATE THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES. AND THAT'S THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION TO HELP IN THAT EVALUATION OKAY. I MEAN, MY MAIN CONCERN OBVIOUSLY IS NUMBER 150 ALLOWING 56 A THIRD OF THOSE PARKING SPACES FOR WHAT LOOKS LIKE TO BE MAYBE 20% OF THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE IN TOTAL. AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER. I'D EXPECT FAR MORE CARS IN THERE IF THAT WERE THE CASE. AGAIN, THAT'S THE OWNER'S ISSUE OF IT LIMITS WHAT HE CAN DO WITH THE OTHER SPACES. BUT AND OKAY, I'M DONE. SO I HAVE A COUPLE PARKING NUMBER IS IT'S A STANDARD TABLE. IT'S A LOOKUP TABLE. RIGHT. AGAIN. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KNOW HOW ACCURATELY THAT REFLECTS REALITY. WE USE IT FOR EVERY THING WE DO. I KNOW WE USED IT WHEN WE DID THE ONE ON ON, ON ON CARTWRIGHT ROAD. YEAH. SO I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF AND I GUESS IT WOULD PROBABLY DEPEND ON WHAT HOURS TOO. RIGHT? I MEAN, IF IT'S A LATE NIGHT EVENING THING THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANYBODY THERE. BUT OTHER BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE CLOSED, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND, BUT AT THE SAME IT'S THE OTHER THING I LOOKED AT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ONE ON CARTWRIGHT ROAD THAT'S A MONSTER PARKING LOT, AND THAT THEY WERE OCCUPYING THE EVENT CENTER TOOK UP MAYBE 10% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT SPACE THAT WAS THERE. SO IT DIDN'T RAISE A CONCERN THERE. THIS ONE, IT JUST LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, THAT'S ALL. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. THIS I SEE THAT THAT ONE BUILDING IS THE 17,000FT■!S ITSF

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AND THE OTHER BUILDING SECOND, THE OTHER BUILDING ON THE LEFT SIDE IS ALSO ANOTHER 17,000FT■!.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 34,000FT■!S. BUILDING IS A 150. PARKING IS ENOUGH FOR THE 17,000FT■!S, 34,000FT■!S BUILDING. THAT'S MY ONE QUESTION IS AND THE APPLICANT IS BRINGING 3000FT■!S OUT OF THE ONE BUILDING WITH THE CAPACITY OF 280 PEOPLE GATHERING. WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO 100 CARS COMING IN TO THE GATHERING. IF I'M CORRECT, IT'S 150. PARKING IS ENOUGH FOR THAT. PLUS THEY HAVE A GROCERY STORE ACCORDING TO THAT, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT APPLICATION OR SIGNAGE. BECAUSE I DROVE BY THERE A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. AND WHAT DO THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT OTHER PART OF THE BUILDING? I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT, TOO, BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY OF THE PARKING OF THE EVENT. AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHAT WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS, EVEN PLANNING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND ALSO WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE HOMES BEHIND THE BUILDING, TOO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN HALFWAY DONE YET. AND THEY ALL ARE TWO STORIES, AND THE FENCE BEHIND IT IS BARELY SIX FEET. EIGHT FEET. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A PLANNING BETTER, SAYING THAT IF WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT, WE SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN EIGHT FEET, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING. THEY HAVE A EVENT GOING ON INSIDE OR OUTSIDE. THEY CAN HAVE A LOT OF NOISE. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE HERE? WE GOT WE GOT TO LOOK AT I THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE FURTHER. AND BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE DECISION ON THIS ONE, I THINK THERE ARE. AND THE DEVELOPER MAY OWN THE WHOLE THING, BUT THERE ARE HOMES IN THE BACK. YOU GUYS PULL UP THE GOOGLE VIEW. I MEAN, IT'S ALL WE HAVE. WE'RE DONE. AND THEY ALL ARE TWO STORIES. IT'S NOT EVEN A SINGLE STORY. SO THE HOUSES ARE TWO STORIES YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH, OKAY. MY, MY YEAH. WE CAN ASK IF THE DEVELOPER IS APPLICANT IS HERE. WE CAN ASK THEM TO COME UP. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TOO REGARDING THE EGRESS AND EMERGENCY SITUATION WITH A FIRE TRUCK. BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE DURING AN EVENT AND SAFELY ENTER AND SAFELY EXIT AN EMERGENCY. VEHICLES. YES. THE TOTAL SITE WAS REVIEWED BY FIRE DURING THE INITIAL BUILDING PLANS REVIEW, SO THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE SITE AS A WHOLE BECAUSE FOR NOW, THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE. AND WHERE WOULD THAT FIRE TRUCK GO IF IT HAD TO BACK UP RATHER THAN BACK UP, IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THE TURN GRACEFULLY IN A IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, CLEARING OUT ALL THE CARS AND CLEARING OUT THE PEOPLE. YEAH. AND THE SITE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE. IT HAS.

SO THEY THEY DO HAVE DESIGNATED FIRE LANES THAT ARE MARKED. AND THOSE ARE AREAS THAT SHOULD BE RESTRICTED FROM PARKING OR VEHICLE IDLING. SO THE RIGHT NOW THE SITE DOES IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT. IT IS. YEAH. NOW IF THIS IS APPROVED AND THIS COMES THROUGH PERMITTING THE USE OF THAT, THAT SPACE AND FIRE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE OF THE SPACE WOULD THEN BE EVALUATED BY ALL OF THE TEAMS, INCLUDING FIRE. PENDING OR APPROVAL. CORRECT? ONLY IF.

OKAY, SO DID WE WANT TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPER. DO WE WANT TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC. LET'S DO THE PUBLIC FIRST. YEAH. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. SO WE HAVE NOBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC. LET'S HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER. AND YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR HIM. LET'S DO THAT THEN. RIGHT NOW. YEAH. MYSELF ABRAHAM I'M THE BUILDER ON THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. I'M ACTUALLY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TENTATIVELY FOR A PROJECT FOR IT'S ACTUALLY OCCUPANCY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR 220 PEOPLE AND THE BUILDING IS THE SWOFFORD MENTIONED IS INCORRECT. IT'S 13,000 EACH. WE'RE USING ACTUALLY 30 LESS THAN 30% OF THE TOTAL OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING BE. WHICH IS GOING TO BE SUPPORTING VENUE FOR THE GROCERY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MARKETPLACE ON THAT ONE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ONLY 220 PEOPLE APPROXIMATELY OCCUPANCY, WHICH IS RELEVANT FOR THE OCCUPANCY LOAD AND FOR THE AVAILABLE

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PARKING SPACES. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO DO A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ON THAT IMPACT STUDY ON THAT ONE AND FOUND OUT IT'S GOING TO BE WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE CITY REQUIREMENTS.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY OPENING AN ACCESS FROM THE NEXT DOOR.

THERE IS A RESTAURANT THERE, AN ACCESS A. AS A COMMON AREA ENTRANCE IS GOING TO BE ATTACHING TO THAT BUILDING TOO. SO IT'S GOING TO BE I THINK I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET CLOSER TO THE MIC. OH, SORRY. THE NEXT DOOR, THERE'S A RESTAURANT WHICH IS EL VAQUERO, PROBABLY EVERYBODY AWARE OF THAT ONE THAT THERE'S AN OPEN IS AN DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS INITIALLY WAS MADE TO CONNECT TO THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO CONNECT THAT PROPERTY AND DOWN THE ROAD, WHEN THE OCCUPANCY LOAD IS GOING TO BE BUILDING A GOING TO BE FULL CAPACITY, GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE THAT WAY TOO. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE PROPOSING ONLY 220 OCCUPANCY LOAD FOR THAT PROPOSED VENUE, WHICH IS A SUPPORTING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY STORE. THAT ONE, WHICH IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS, SIR. DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY THAT YOU COMPLETED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ON YOUR OWN? AND DID YOU YOU SHARED THAT WITH THE CITY? YES, HE HAS THAT ONE AND WAS. THANK YOU. AND WAS THAT REVIEW IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC WORKSHEET THAT YOU HAD OUTLINED ON THE SLIDE? OKAY. WELL, BUT FOR CLARIFICATION, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR JUST THE WORK IMPACT ANALYSIS WE SUBMITTED WAS SUBMITTED, WAS SUBMITTED. YES. I WAS LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET THAT YOU SENT. IT LOOKED LIKE THAT THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH. LET ME BRING IT UP. LIKE FOR THE MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITY, I THINK THAT WE CAN PEAK HOURS WERE A LITTLE BIT LOW. BECAUSE YOU HAD 3.58 AS THE RATE AND YOU SUPPOSEDLY HAD NINE CARS COMING IN THE WEEKEND FOR THE FACILITY. BUT I MEAN, IF YOU'RE HAVING 280. BACKS, SO IF YOU HAD 280 PEOPLE FOR YOUR FACILITY, YOU'RE GOING TO AT LEAST HAVE, AT WORST CASE SCENARIO, AT LEAST OVER 100 CARS GOING THROUGH, GOING THROUGH THAT FACILITY, DROPPING, DROPPING PEOPLE OFF, MAYBE PARKING, WHATNOT. SO I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE THIS THIS WORKSHEET DOES NEED TO BE REDONE BEFORE YOU GO INTO FINAL DESIGN. OKAY. ACTUALLY I HAVE A SO IF WE COULD JUST TO KEEP THE BUILDING. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO THOUGH, IT SOUNDS LIKE AN OFFLINE CONVERSATION. YES. AND THERE ARE TRAFFIC CONCERNS TO BE DISCUSSED. SO THAT SATISFIES MY QUESTION. I HAVE ONE OTHER ONE'S. IF THE CHAIR WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. THE LAST OR LAST QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS FOR THE HOURS OF OPERATION. HAVE YOU HAD OTHER EVENTS CENTERS ELSEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY? IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CITY RIGHT ON THAT CORRIDOR WITH A 1092. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER VENUES IN THE CITY. NO, I'M SORRY, SIR, I WASN'T CLEAR. DO YOU OWN OR OPERATE ANY OTHER EVENT CENTERS OUTSIDE OF MISSOURI CITY? NOT AT THE MOMENT. OKAY, WELL, THEN I WON'T ASK MY NEXT QUESTION. THANK YOU. YEAH. I HAD A QUESTION. SO YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO CONNECT YOUR PARKING LOT TO THE PARKING LOT? YES, SIR. IT'S ALREADY BEEN A PROVISION MADE WHEN WE DEVELOPED THAT PROPERTY. IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN A IS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS WITH THAT ONE TO DO THAT. SO AGAIN THAT'S A FRIDAY AFTERNOON HANGOUT FOR ME. PARKING THERE IS ABYSMAL. PEOPLE PARK IN THE EMPTY LOT BEHIND IT. YEAH THAT'S GOING TO EXACERBATE PARKING INSIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE ALL THOSE CARS THAT CURRENTLY PARK ON THE GRASS OR WHEREVER ARE GOING TO END UP IN YOUR PARKING LOT. HOW DOES THAT GET TAKEN INTO EFFECT WHEN WE LOOK AT PARKING? BECAUSE CONNECTING THOSE TWO, THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO CONSUME PARKING INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S ONLY IN TERMS OF THE EGRESS PURPOSE. IT'S NOT FOR PARKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE. SO HOW DO YOU KEEP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING IN THERE. IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT ONE. DEFINITELY. THEY CAN PUT A SIGN OVER THERE FOR BUSINESSES ONLY. VERY SIMPLE OKAY. YEAH. I, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. I KNOW YOU HAVE TWO BUILDINGS OVER THERE, 2040. SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THE 2144, DO YOU CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON IN THAT BUILDING? ACTUALLY AT THE MOMENT THERE ARE SOME TENANTS THAT ARE COMING THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT NOW ONLY ONE SOMEBODY BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY, JUST THEY'RE DOING A DAY SPA

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COMMISSION. I THINK WE SHOULD WE NEED TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT IS GOING INTO THAT PROPERTY. 2144 BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IS GOING ON THERE. WE CAN LOOK AT THE EVENT CENTER IN THAT 2040 BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY BOTH ARE TOGETHER. AND THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE OR DECREASE THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE IS GOING INTO THE OTHER PERSON. SO I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT. WE SHOULD GET A CLEARER UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DEVELOPER. WHAT IS IN THAT? WHAT IS GOING INTO THE BOTH OF THOSE BUILDINGS? I MEAN, OKAY, WE CAN WE CAN TRY TO DO THAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THE TENANTS ARE GOING TO BE YET, THEN WE'LL NEVER KNOW. RIGHT? YOU KNOW, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO DECIDE THE MERITS OF THIS PARTICULAR USE AT THAT LOCATION. AND WE CAN'T NECESSARILY PREDICT WHAT THE OTHER USES IN THAT STRIP CENTER ARE GOING TO BE. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S AN EXISTING STRIP CENTER THAT'S FULLY OCCUPIED. AND THEY WANT TO PUT THIS FACILITY IN THERE. OKAY. THIS IS ONLY, I GUESS THE SECOND. YES, SIR. SECOND, SECOND, ACTUAL TENANT OR USE FOR THIS WHOLE COMPLEX.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'VE DEALT WITH THAT IN THE PAST. SO THE REGULATIONS CONSIDER SHARED OR MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTERS AND EVEN TO THE QUESTION ON SHARED PARKING KIND OF ARRANGEMENTS. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES, DIFFERENT KIND OF RATIO MIX, BUT THAT'S EVALUATED DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS. SO AS THOSE TENANTS BECOME DEFINED USUALLY FOR THESE TYPES OF CENTERS, IF YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING SPECULATIVE, YOU WANT TO BUILD IT WITH THE MOST FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF USERS. USUALLY THE RESTAURANTS ARE THE PRIMARY PARKING DRIVERS AND SOME OF THESE FACILITIES. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR THAT PURPOSE. BUT AS THEY GO THROUGH DIFFERENT PERMIT REVIEWS, IT'S FIRST COME FIRST FIRST IN FIRST SERVED. SO IF THE FIRST TENANT ABSORBS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE PARKING, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE RAMIFICATIONS ON HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO LEASE OUT OR SELL THE REMAINING SPACES IN THAT THAT FACILITY. SO IF WE IF WE APPROVE THIS USE AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY PARKING SPOTS AND SOMEBODY, SOME OTHER TENANT COMES IN AND, AND THERE AREN'T ENOUGH SPOTS, THEN THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET THE PERMITS TO DO THAT. RIGHT. THEY HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ON SITE PARKING TO MEET THE GENERAL STANDARD. SO I GUESS THAT'S THE ANSWER ON HOW THE HOW THE CITY DEALS WITH A SITUATION WHERE THEY DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE THERE IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, IT'S FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. SO IF WE SAY THIS IS OKAY TO DO HERE AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE UP, LET'S JUST USE THE 56 NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE BOOK SAYS. AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN AND NEEDS TO HAVE MORE PARKING THAN THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED. TO OVERSUBSCRIBE TO THE PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE. SO SIMILAR BUSINESSES ARE NOT APPROVED AS PER THE CONTRACT WITH THE DEVELOPER. NO OTHER SIMILAR BUSINESS CAN COME IN THERE. SO IT'S ACTUALLY A NON-COMPETITION AGREEMENT THERE. THEY CANNOT BE ANOTHER WEDDING VENUE OR ANOTHER LIKE A GROCERY STORE IN THE SAME COMPLEX. SO THERE WON'T BE HIGH OCCUPANCY, THERE WON'T BE ANY OTHER TENANTS GOING TO BE POSSIBLE IN THAT SAME COMPLEX. SO THAT WILL ACTUALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM. BASICALLY. DO YOU HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE HOMES, THE HOMES RIGHT BEHIND THAT SHOPPING CENTER. AND THAT'S A THAT'S A REAL CONCERN FOR ME. AND THE TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT FROM THAT SHOPPING CENTER. SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS AT THIS TIME. I AGREE. AND THEY MEET ALL THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT THAT LOCATION. YES. AND DO WE HAVE ANY PENDING CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT AREA FOR THAT BASICALLY FROM WHERE THE EVENT CENTER'S AT, THAT WHOLE MAIN IS THERE CONSTRUCTION PENDING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE STREETS OR WIDEN THE STREET. THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER FACTOR THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER TOO. YOU'RE ASKING ANY PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS TO FM 1092? YEAH, NOT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. SO ONE THING I WANTED TO NOTICE BRING IT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. THE VENUE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY SOUND POLLUTION WHATSOEVER FOR EXTERNALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONTAINED INSIDE THE BUILDING.

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SO WE'RE DOING ALL THE SOUND CONTROL, ALL THAT ACOUSTIC PANELING AND ALL THAT REQUIRED FOR THE SOUND CONTROL. THERE WON'T BE ANY KIND OF NUISANCE OR ANY KIND OF A SOUND COMING OUT.

SO AT THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, AT ANY POINT OF TIME, JENNIFER, THOSE ARE THE CRITERIAS. DO WE HAVE THEM IN THE BOOKS FOR THE EVENT CENTER? DO THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ANY PARTICULAR CRITERIA FOR ANY EVENT CENTER OR A BANQUET CENTER? THE ONE LIKE THE HOURS OF OPERATION, HOURS OF OPERATION AND SOMETHING MR. THOMAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE NOISE. SO THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS, THE SECURITY STANDARD, THAT'S THE SAME STANDARD THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE CEP FOR THE CARTWRIGHT ROAD FACILITY. NOISE STANDARDS IS GENERALLY STILL FOLLOWING THE NOISE ORDINANCE. YEAH, BECAUSE BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER AREAS OF THE MISSOURI CITY HOMEOWNERS ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT ISSUE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BRING THAT UP HERE. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, THAT RESIDENT HAVING THE RESIDENCE IN THE BACK. I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO KIND OF THE DENSITY OF EVENT CENTERS. DOES THE CITY IS THERE ANY KIND OF STANDARD THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT, WHAT LOOKS LIKE YOUR PARKING PLAN HERE THAT SAYS, I GO AND I SAY OF A CITY OF 80,000, OR HOW MANY EVENTS CENTERS TYPICALLY DOES THE CITY OF 80,000 WITH OUR DEMOGRAPHIC SUPPORT, WHAT IS IT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? WELL, IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT OUT THERE IN THE PLANNING WORLD? NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S RESEARCH. AND SO IF THE COMMISSION AND THAT THAT'S SOME OF THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE REMEMBER, WITH EVENT CENTERS, IT'S A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY. SO IT IT'S PLACES OF ASSEMBLY IS BROAD. SO A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY COULD BE AN EVENT CENTER COULD BE A SCHOOL. YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF FACILITY THAT BRINGS A GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGETHER AT SPECIFIED TIMES. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY SEE WHAT KIND OF RESEARCH IS OUT THERE AND BRING THAT BACK, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL HAVING THAT CONVERSATION AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL. YEAH, I MEAN, I SAT IN ON THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I GUESS IT WAS LAST WEEK WHEN THE PLAN WAS PRESENTED, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION THERE. AND THERE HAS BEEN HERE AROUND, WHAT DO WE WANT MISSOURI CITY TO LOOK LIKE, WHAT BUSINESSES ARE WE WORKING TO ATTRACT, AND SO FORTH. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION, IS THIS DO WE WANT ANOTHER ONE OF THESE KNOWING THAT THERE'S, I THINK THREE OF THEM FAIRLY CLOSE TO THERE WITHIN A SAY, A LESS THAN A FIVE MINUTE DRIVE, THERE'S THREE MORE, ALL OF THEM BETWEEN WITH AT LEAST A COUPLE OF HUNDRED PEOPLE CAPACITY. SO THANK YOU. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION. A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES. SO ITEM TWO IS CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON ITEM 8A1. SO WHERE ARE WE. WELL I, I WOULD SAY PROCEDURALLY WE'D HAVE TO GIVE THE DEVELOPER AT LEAST AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST. AND THIS IS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE TRAFFIC WORKSHEET. I DON'T BELIEVE IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS COMPLETED. I THINK A WORKSHEET WAS SUBMITTED. I'M HAPPY TO BE CORRECTED, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. SO I THINK. VOTE IT. I WOULD I WOULD VOTE TO NOT APPROVE THE CIP AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO REWORK THE WORKSHEET WITH WITH THE CORRESPONDING DEPARTMENT. I'M SORRY, I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE CITY SHOULD ASK A SECOND AGO. SO THE GROCERY STORE THAT'S IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OPEN OR NOT. THEY LOOK PRETTY CLOSE. HOW MANY SPOTS ARE ASSIGNED TO THEM OUT OF THESE 150. SO SHOULDN'T BE. ANY ASSIGNED PARKING, SHOULDN'T BE SHARED, SHOULDN'T BE ANY ASSIGNED PARKING. RIGHT. BUT BUT WHEN YOU DID THE MATH AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY GET WHATEVER GOES IN THERE GETS TO CONSUME 150 SPACES. AND BEYOND THAT, THERE'S NO MORE PERMITS ISSUED FOR ANYTHING THAT CONSUMES PARKING. SO HOW MUCH? WHEN WE DID, WHEN THEY APPLIED FOR THEIRS, HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS DID THEY CONSUME? YEAH I GUESS THEY DID THAT. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBERS AT THE TIME. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS. I'D BE CURIOUS IF THEY TOOK LET'S SAY THEY TOOK 40. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT WOULD CONSUME TWO THIRDS OF THE PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THAT LOT. AND YOU HAVEN'T EVEN USED UP 50% OF THE AVAILABLE

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SPACE. RIGHT. AND SO AND BASICALLY THE RATIOS, IT'S BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, RIGHT? IN THE SENSE OF THE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY IS BASED ON OCCUPANCY. SO FOR THE GROCERY STORE, FOR THE RESTAURANT PORTION PORTION, I BELIEVE IT'S EIGHT PARKING SPACES PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME SCENARIOS IF THERE'S A DRIVE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN THE GROCERY STORE PORTION WILL HAVE, I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE 3 OR 3.1 SPACES PER, YOU KNOW, SQUARE FEET. SO WE CAN RUN THAT NUMBER REALLY QUICKLY. IF IT'S BEEN PERMITTED, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT NUMBER OF THE SPACES THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND THEN FOR MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS, THERE'S SCENARIOS WHERE YOU CAN DO BASED ON IF, YOU KNOW, ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES TAKE UP 10% OF THE OF THE BUILDING KIND OF WHAT THE TOTAL PARKING WOULD BE BASED ON THAT. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF COME COME TO THOSE NUMBERS. I GOT IT. AND SO WHATEVER WE DO, IF THIS IF THIS ISN'T APPROVED THIS EVENING, YOU WILL YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TIE INTO CASTLE VACCARO. AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A CHART THAT SAYS HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS I'D ADVISE DRIVING BY THERE AT 5:00 ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND SEE HOW MANY CARS ARE PARKED ON THE GRASS AND IN THE PARK, IN THE FIELD BEHIND IT. THEY'RE GOING IN THE PARKING, A COMMUNITY FAVORITE IT IS. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, WHERE ARE WE? WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL NOT. YEAH. I WOULD JUST SAY VOTE NO. JUST. WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION BEFORE WE CAN DO ANYTHING. RIGHT? I WAS JUST PROVIDING MY OPINION FOR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO WEIGH IN, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED.

CAN THEY BE RESOLVED WITH LIMITATIONS TO WHAT YOU'RE YOU WOULD VOTE FOR, LIKE SAYING I WANT THE WALL BIGGER OR THAT THAT IS THOSE ISSUES ARE. BUT IF YOU'VE HAD YOUR ANSWERS THEN IT'S IT ENDS UP BEING A YES OR NO TO WHAT IS PROPOSED. YEAH, I MEAN, IT DEFINITELY THE WALL IS SHOULD BE WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THAT IN IN IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING SESSION.

THIS EIGHT FOOT WALL IS NOT LONG ENOUGH. IT'S NOT TALL ENOUGH FOR THAT TWO STORY BUILDINGS. I MEAN, YOU GUYS SHOULD DRIVE BY THERE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO DRIVE BY, AND IT IS FAIRLY ACCORDING TO THE CITY CODE, BARELY 16FT FROM THE BUILDING TO THE FENCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A HALF $1 MILLION HOME BEHIND IT. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO FEEL IT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT. HOW MANY OF THEM ARE SOLD. YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING SINGLE. THERE IS A TOWNHOME, TWO SHOWS, TWO ADDRESSES ON THEIR DUPLEX, THEIR DUPLEX. AND NOT ONLY THAT, 150 PARKING FOR THAT TWO. I MEAN, YOU GUYS RUN THE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, 17,000 TIMES TWO, 34, 34, 34,000FT■!S, 150 PARKING. AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING A DRIVEWAY FROM THE CAIRO USED TO BE CAIRO.

AND THEN LOOKING AT IN THE EVENINGS, SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, I GO THERE TO OVERFLOW PARKING, GO INTO THE PARKING LOT TO. YEAH, I THINK I HAVEN'T UPDATED VERIFIED. NOT JUST TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, BUT I GUESS HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RELOOK AT THE CONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING LOT, KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE IMMENSE. I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE THE YEAH, YEAH, I MEAN, I THOUGHT THEY ALREADY DID THAT. YEAH. I MEAN I KNEW. YEAH. SO NOW WE'RE IN IT. SO THEY, THEY WOULD NEED TO TYPE IN SOMETHING ELSE, BUT NOT BASED ON WHAT COULD BE THERE. THE TENANT WOULD BE THERE. NO. BUT KEEPING KEEPING IN MIND THAT WHETHER OR NOT CONCEIVABLY PEOPLE ARRIVING AT THE LOCATION HAVE PARKING. SO THAT MEANS YOU'RE TIPPING CHANGE REGARDLESS OF, YOU KNOW. IN THE CENTER ITSELF. SO THE FIRE LINES THAT ARE DESIGNATED IN THE VISITING IRELAND, REGARDLESS OF THE TENANT AND THE DRIVEWAY, THE DIAMETERS OF THE DRIVEWAY, THE COLORS, ALL OF THAT WILL BE THE SAME REGARDLESS OF THE BUILDING. WELL, AND I THINK WHAT'S WHAT'S HARD TO GET A HANDLE ON IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING LIKE THAT. THIS THING'S GOING TO BE OPERATING AT CAPACITY EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR ALL THOSE HOURS. OKAY. WE KNOW THAT'S NOT REALITY. RIGHT? SO YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO FRIDAY NIGHT. SATURDAY NIGHT PROBABLY ARE GOING TO BE THE BUSY TIMES FOR EVENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE HOURS OF THE GROCERY STORE, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE. OKAY, SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. WE. WE CAN MAKE A MOTION ONE WAY OR THE

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OTHER. AND BASED ON THAT LET'S SEE WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DO. COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON, DID YOU PUT THE MOTION OUT THERE OR THERE'S NO MOTION RIGHT NOW OKAY. SO THAT. COMMISSIONER SOLLOWAY RAISED A MOTION. BUT WHAT IS YOUR MOTION? I WOULD VOTE TO NOT APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR MOTION. SO YOUR MOTION IS TO DENY THIS REQUEST. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THIS REQUEST. IF I MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION INSTEAD OF MAKING A NEGATIVE MOTION. MAKING A MOTION IS NOT YOUR VOTE FOR THE ITEM THAT YOU'RE MAKING THE MOTION ON. SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT. THERE CAN BE A SECOND AND YOU ALL CAN VOTE. AND IF THE MOTION FAILS, THEN THE ITEM FAILS THAT WAY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A NEGATIVE MOTION. SO JUST MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT WHICH YOU'VE MADE OR COULD MAKE MAKE A SECOND. AND THEN YOU ALL CAN VOTE. AND EITHER IT PASSES OR FAILS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A NEGATIVE MOTION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT TENDS TO CONFUSE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE. I WILL AMEND MY MOTION. THANK YOU. MOTION TO APPROVE. YES. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT AS YOUR SECOND TO ADOPT TO ADOPT OKAY. AS WRITTEN. CORRECT OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS SAP APPLICATION.

GO AHEAD AND PLACE YOUR VOTES PLEASE. THERE WE GO. THE MOTION FAILS.

BECAUSE IT'S A TIE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS A

[a. Gas Stations]

GAS STATIONS PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY. MISSOURI CITY PLAN ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING USE OF PROPERTY FOR GAS STATION GAS, GASOLINE STATIONS THROUGHOUT MISSOURI CITY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT. SO THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED CHANGE TO THE ACTUAL RULES PERTAINING TO GAS STATIONS. SO YOU SAW THE DRAFT OF THIS ORDINANCE BACK IN DECEMBER I BELIEVE. AND SO WE HAVE RECEIVED INPUT FROM SEVERAL GAS STATION PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND THE CITY THAT HAVE HELPED PROVIDE SOME CHANGES TO THE DRAFT, AND PARTICULARLY IN THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A GASOLINE STATION IS. SO JUST A REAL BRIEF OVERVIEW. CURRENTLY, GAS STATIONS ARE USES PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN MOST ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS STARTING AT LC THREE AND MORE INTENSE.

ANYTHING LESS INTENSE THAN THAT, THEY ARE PROHIBITED. THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED PERTAIN TO PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, GAS STATIONS THAT TEND TO CLUSTER IN SOME OF OUR AREAS, AND POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FROM THOSE UNDERGROUND FUEL TANKS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT AT SOME OF THE LOCATIONS. SO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD NOT MAKE A CHANGE TO SECTION SEVEN OF THE USE DISTRICT, SO GAS STATIONS WOULD STILL BE USES BY RIGHT SPELLED OUT IN THE LC THREE DISTRICT. SO ANYTHING LESS INTENSE THAN THAT THEY WOULD STILL BE PROHIBITED. BUT LC THREE AND MORE INTENSE. WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS ADD A REQUIREMENT FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL FOR THOSE GAS STATIONS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS THAT SHARE A COMMON LINE WITH A RESIDENTIALLY ZONED AREA. SO IF THE GAS THE PROPERTY THAT THE GAS STATION IS ON IS ADJACENT TO A PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL, THEN THE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT WOULD BE THAT BEFORE THAT GAS STATION CAN LOCATE IN THAT THAT AREA, IT WOULD NEED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL. THE CONDITIONS FOR THAT APPROVAL WOULD INCLUDE THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE WITHIN 200FT OF AN INTERSECTION. THERE WOULD BE LIMITS ON THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF GAS STATIONS, BUT DEPENDENT ON THE TYPE OF ROADWAY IT'S TRYING TO LOCATE ON. SO AT SOME OF THE MAJOR ROADWAYS, A MAXIMUM OF TWO COULD BE LOCATED AT THAT INTERSECTION ON SMALLER

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ROADWAYS, SMALLER DESIGNED ROADWAYS, A MAXIMUM OF ONE. THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE PROVISION THAT EQUIPMENT LIKE AIR PUMPS, VACUUMS HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 150FT AWAY FROM THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN THIS ADDS SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL. AS MENTIONED, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DEFINE GASOLINE SERVICE STATIONS. SO WE'VE GONE OFF OF A STANDARD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A GAS STATION IS. THIS WOULD DEFINE A GAS STATION SERVICE STATION. AND SO THIS INCLUDES SPECIFICALLY THOSE FACILITIES THAT SELL GAS, DIESEL, PETROLEUM, ALTERNATIVE FUELS INCLUDING PROPANE, NATURAL GAS AND ANY OTHER RELATED ENERGY SOURCE. SO IT'S MEANT TO HOPEFULLY CATCH SOME OF THE FUTURE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVE FUEL THAT MAY BE SOLD AT FACILITIES OF THIS NATURE. SO WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR EXISTING STATIONS THAT MAY NOT COMPLY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT, MEANING THAT THEY MAY SHARE A COMMON LINE WITH A RESIDENTIAL LOCATION, OR THEY MAY NOT BE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF AN INTERSECTION. THOSE USES, IF THIS IS ADOPTED, BECOME NON-CONFORMING. SO IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THOSE GAS STATIONS THAT MAY NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY, IT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WOULD BECOME NON-CONFORMING USES SUBJECT TO THE NON-CONFORMING STANDARDS. OKAY, SO THE NEXT STEPS, WE'RE AT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT, AND WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION ON THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CREATE YOUR FINAL REPORT. THIS WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR A THIRD PUBLIC HEARING THAT WOULD GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, WITH CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IN REPORT, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND THEN ALSO, IF YOU HAVE OPEN YOUR PUBLIC HEARING. SO THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES INCLUDE THAT AS A POWER SOURCE THAT. I MEAN I'M TRYING TO DEFINE IT. YEAH. AND THEN IF IT'S A PUMP, DOES THAT MEAN IT FALLS INTO THE CATEGORY OF VACUUM AND AIR. DOES IT NOW NEEDS TO BE 150 FROM A PROPERTY LINE? MOST ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE ALONG THE PERIMETER OF FILLING STATION. SO FOR THOSE PARTICULAR CASES IT WOULD CHANGE THAT LAYOUT AND SO THAT IT WOULD PUSH THOSE AWAY FROM THAT COMMON LINE WITH RESIDENTIAL. SO DEPENDING ON HOW THAT SITE IS CONFIGURED, IT MAY LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT IT WOULD BE AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. HOW WOULD FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, HOW WOULD THAT APPLY TO A PLACE THAT IS JUST AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION. IT'S A RETAIL OPERATION BECAUSE THEY'RE CHARGING YOU AND IT SAYS ANY ENERGY SOURCE FOR POWERING VEHICLES. DOES THAT FALL UNDER THIS? SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON A SPECIFIC EV CHARGING SET OF REGULATIONS. SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BEFORE THE COMMISSION AS WELL TO HELP SPELL OUT, BECAUSE IF IT IS A LOCATION THAT THAT IS THEIR THEIR PRIMARY PURPOSE OR PRIMARY, YOU KNOW, RETAIL SERVICE, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN OUR STANDARD FUEL STATIONS, WOULDN'T WE? BUT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME IT'S EVEN IT SAYS GASOLINE SERVICE STATION.

THE DEFINITION TO ME LOOKS LIKE IT CAN HAVE A LAWYER IN THE BUNCH. BUT THE DEFINITION LOOKS LIKE I COULD ARGUE I'LL ARGUE BOTH SIDES, BUT I WOULD SAY YOU COULD SAY ELECTRICITY IS IN THIS AND I DON'T WANT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO START EXCLUDING. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS ABOUT A NONCONFORMING USE. LET ME MAKE SURE I GET I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE SCENARIO. I HAVE A GAS STATION. I THINK I CAN COMPLY WITH EVERYTHING. I GO APPLY FOR AN SUP, BUT BECAUSE OF WHERE I AM, PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL DO NOT APPROVE MY SUP. THEREFORE, I AM NOW A NONCONFORMING USE FOR MY PROPERTY. CORRECT AND I BUT I CAN OPERATE IT AS LONG AS I STAY IN OPERATION. DOES IT GET IS THERE A SUNSET PROVISION THERE

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OR ANYTHING? I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID BECAUSE YOU KIND OF LED ME ASTRAY ON THAT ONE. SO RIGHT NOW, THOSE EXISTING PLACES. CURRENTLY DON'T REQUIRE AN SUP. OKAY. SO IF THEY'RE THERE TODAY AND WE DO THIS ORDINANCE, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO APPLY FOR AN SUP. NO, NO. SEE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO APPLY OKAY. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT. THEY WOULD. THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT ME BECAUSE THEY THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING NEW OKAY. IT'S JUST THAT NEW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET SUP. OKAY. SO BUT THEY DO BECOME A NONCONFORMING USE OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE STILL AT THE SAME PLACE, BUT THEN MY QUESTION BECOMES DOES THAT SUNSET AT ANY PORTION OF THE REASON I ASK IS GALVESTON HAS RECENTLY PROPOSED AN ORDINANCE THAT RESTRICTS USE OF SOME PROPERTIES. AND IN THAT ORDINANCE IT SAYS THAT YOU'LL BECOME NONCONFORMING. BUT THREE YEARS AFTER THAT, YOU MAY NO LONGER OPERATE AS A NONCONFORMING. IS THAT A RISK HERE THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THE CITY MAY DECIDE THAT, NO, IT'S NOT IN PERPETUITY. IT HAS SOME KIND OF GRANT OF SURE, IF THE CITY, IF THE CITY DETERMINES THAT IT WOULD LIKE TO END NON CERTAIN NONCONFORMING USES IN THE FUTURE, THERE IS A PROCESS PROVIDED BY STATE LAW THAT THE CITY WOULD FOLLOW IN ORDER TO END THOSE USES. SO WHENEVER THAT TIME COMES, THE CITY WOULD FOLLOW THAT PROCESS. YES, SIR. BUT CURRENTLY IF THE CITY DOESN'T PURSUE THAT, IT'S THIS LITTLE LIST OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT WOULD. FORCE THEM TO CEASE OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT SUBJECT TO STATE LAW. YES. SO ABANDONMENT, VIOLATION, CHANGE.

SO I RECALL, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO. LIKE REMODEL THE BUILDING, I THINK THAT FALLS UNDER CHANGE. ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT IF THEY COULDN'T DO THAT AND THEN CONTINUE TO OPERATE. RIGHT. AND I GUESS YOU KNOW HURRICANE COMES THROUGH AND DAMAGES THEIR PROPERTY. THEN THAT WOULD BASICALLY PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS OR, OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO. AND AGAIN THE CAVEAT IS STATE LAW, THE STATE HAS MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR CITIES TO TERMINATE NONCONFORMING USES. SO IF THAT HAPPENED, WE WOULD STILL FOLLOW THE STATE LAW. WE WOULD, OF COURSE, FOLLOW OUR PROVISIONS. BUT IF THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN A PROVISION AND THE STATE LAW AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD FOLLOW THE STATE LAW. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OKAY. THANK YOU. I DID MAYBE AND JUST REAL QUICK SHOULD DO WE HAVE ROADWAY OR OTHER ARTERIAL STREETS, COLLECTOR OR LOCAL STREETS DEFINED SOMEWHERE IN OUR TEXT.

AND SHOULD WE IF WE DON'T. SO THEY THOSE TERMS ARE CONTAINED IN THE CITY'S THE TRAFFIC THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. THANK YOU. THAT'S ADOPTED AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OKAY.

GREAT. THANK YOU. YES, JENNIFER. THIS AMENDMENT IS SOLELY FOR THE NEW GAS STATIONS COMING. WHAT IT IS, IF IT'S ADOPTED, IT WOULD BECOME THE RULE FOR EVERYTHING. IT'S JUST THAT THOSE THAT ARE IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION WOULD BECOME NONCONFORMING. IF THEY DON'T CONFORM TO THOSE STANDARDS. GENERALLY. WHAT DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN A GAS STATION AND A RESIDENTIAL OR A MULTI-USE ZONING? WHAT IS THE GAP OR WHAT IS THE HOW MANY FEET DISTANCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE? SO GENERALLY, IF A GAS STATION WENT IN ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THEN THE LANDSCAPING BUFFERING STANDARDS WOULD APPLY. SO SIMILAR TO CASES THAT YOU HAVE SEEN WITH OTHER TYPES OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES, IT'S THE STANDARD 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER MASONRY WALL WITH ASSOCIATED LANDSCAPING. OKAY. WITH THIS AMENDMENT, ARE WE ASKING THE GAS STATIONS OR ALLOW THEM TO BUILD A BARRIER AROUND IT, LIKE 8FT OR 6FT FENCING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN, I DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE IN THERE, BUT I'D BE PLANNING ON DOING IT. THAT REQUIREMENT HAS NOT BEEN ADDED TO THIS PROPOSAL. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THIS IS CERTAINLY YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER UPON FINAL CONSIDERATION. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THAT TYPE OF PROVISION IF YOU WOULD WANT TO. MASONRY. IT SOUNDS LIKE A MASONRY MAYBE

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BARRIER OF AT LEAST EIGHT FEET BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE GAS SERVICE STATION PROPERTY IS THAT THAT WOULD ALREADY BE THE BASELINE STANDARD LANDSCAPING. WE ALREADY REQUIRE THAT BECAUSE IT'S COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? EIGHT FEET, 8FT OR 6FT? EIGHT FEET. OH, IT IS EIGHT FEET. OKAY. SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THE THAT'S ALREADY REQUIREMENT. SO I WAS GOING TO I'M STILL TRYING TO KIND OF REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR HERE OKAY. I GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS NECESSARILY ADDRESSES THOSE OKAY. SO AGAIN AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT THIS REPORT WAS AGAIN NOT REALLY SURE KIND OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS RIGHT. YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE STANDARDS TO DEAL WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. AND I GUESS SOME OF THE SITUATIONS HAVE COME UP, THE EXISTING ONES WHERE MAYBE THE GAS STATION WENT IN BEFORE THE RESIDENTIAL WENT IN. RIGHT. AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE RESIDENTIAL IS RIGHT ON TOP OF GAS STATION. BUT THE GAS STATION WAS THERE FIRST, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT WAS ZONED TO LC3. OKAY. SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT PART OF IT TO MAYBE MITIGATE SOME OF THAT RISK IN THE FUTURE. BUT NOT I'M NOT CONVINCED NECESSARILY THAT THIS IS A THING. OKAY. MY PERSONAL OPINION. SO COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PAGE NUMBER 39 ON THE PRESENTATION. I MEAN, THE ONLY REASON I SAY ABOUT THAT, THE MASONRY WALL IS, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT YOUR HOME ON THE CUL DE SAC AND THERE'S A GAS STATION OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS I RECOMMEND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE COMMISSIONERS OR, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONSIDER THAT ONE AS A STRONG POINT. WHEN WE BUILD THE GAS STATIONS GOING FORWARD. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE HOUSE BEING THERE, BUILT AFTER THE GAS STATION WAS THERE, RIGHT I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. I GUESS I HAVE IS PART I THINK I ASKED THIS LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, IS THIS PARTLY IN RESPONSE TO THE ISSUE THAT CAME UP 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO, WHERE THAT GAS STATION WAS PUT INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, CAUSED A TREMENDOUS UPROAR IN THE CITY, ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE, BUT KIND OF DID NOT HAVE ANY TOOLS TO PREVENT THAT CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION GOING IN. IS THAT WHAT'S DRIVING WHAT STARTED DRIVING THIS? I BELIEVE THAT THAT MAY BE PART OF IT, BUT AS YOU ALL ALREADY HAVE IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PART OF THAT PLAN IS TO PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY. AND SO PART OF THAT IS LOOKING AT THESE USES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AND REALLY CREATING THE TOOLS BY WHICH THE CITY CAN PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THIS PROPOSAL IS DESIGNED REALLY TO FURTHER THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOAL IS THE EASIER SOLUTION, MAYBE TO TAKE GAS STATIONS OUT OF LC3 GOING FORWARD. A LOT LESS WORDS ON PAPER FOR AN ORDINANCE. WELL, WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CONSIDER ZONING DISTRICTS AND ALL OF THAT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT PROPERTIES ARE ZONED AROUND THE CITY, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU TAKE IT OUT OF LC3, THE NEXT HIGHER UP IS LC FOR AND THERE'S NOT THAT MANY PROPERTIES ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL. SO THEN YOU REALLY START TO KIND OF LIMIT AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE THOSE DIFFERENT USES GO. THE SUP ACTS AS AN OVERLAY, SO YOU CAN CONSIDER IT WHEREVER YOU KNOW THAT DISTRICT IS OR WHEREVER YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY IT'S NEEDED TO GO. YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES YOU MIGHT QUESTION WHY SOME OF THESE AREAS WHERE LC3. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY THERE. RIGHT. AND SO A LOT OF STUFF HAS HAPPENED OVER TIME. AND I CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF NOT WANTING TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS OR DUPLICATE THAT SITUATION. RIGHT. AND I AGREE WITH JENNIFER THAT THE SUP ROUTE IS PROBABLY THE CLEANEST WAY OF DOING THAT, BUT. THE QUESTION BECOMES DO WE THEN PILE ON A BUNCH OF ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT THAT BASICALLY DISCOURAGES PEOPLE FROM EVEN BUILDING A GAS STATION? YOU KNOW, SO IS OUR IS OUR CURRENT COMMERCIAL LC3 GUIDELINES SUFFICIENT WITH THE

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WITH THE SUP OVERLAY ON TOP OF IT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OR NOT? AND I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT. JENNIFER, ONE MORE QUESTION. DO YOU SEE A LOT OF REQUESTS HAVING A GAS STATIONS IN OUR CITY? HAVE WE DO WE SEE A CONTINUOUS AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS OR INQUIRIES. I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. SO IF SOMEBODY DOES HAVE A GAS STATION THAT THEY BELIEVE CAN CONFORM TO THE SUP, CAN THEY COME IN AND APPLY AND GET AN SUP OR THAT GAS STATION SO THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, THEY CAN MAKE AND THEY WANT TO DO OR I OWN GAS STATION, I WANT TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS. DO I SHOW UP AND GET AN SUP FIRST IF THEY DESIRE TO DO THAT? IF THEY WANTED TO COME IN TO CONFORM, THEY COULD CERTAINLY ATTEMPT TO DO THAT. OKAY, LET'S SAY THEY ARE CONFORMING WITH THE SUP, BUT IT STILL HAS TO BE GRANTED BY TWO ONE US AND ANOTHER POLITICAL BODY. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. IT GOES THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS BY WHICH ANY OTHER SPECIFIC USE PERMIT CONSIDERATION WOULD WOULD BE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL SO AND WOULD THEY GET THEN COUNCIL LET'S SAY IT GETS DENIED. DO THEY GET ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE? CAN APPLICATIONS BE IF THEY ARE NOT? IT'S THE SITUATION YOU DESCRIBED. SOUNDS LIKE A NONCONFORMING USE SITUATION. SO THEIR NON-CONFORMING USE STATUS WOULD NOT BE ELIMINATED SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY TRIED AND FAILED TO CONFORM USING AN SUP PROCESS.

BUT IF THEY TRIED AND FAILED, WOULD THEY TRY AGAIN ONCE? ONCE YOU GET NEW PEOPLE TO CITY COUNCIL, LET'S SAY, COULD THEY COME AND TRY AGAIN? ABSOLUTELY THEY CAN. YES. OKAY. WE'RE WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING TOO. SO WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR RULE D. O A RULE D. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME IS AVERROES AND SOME OF YOU GUYS MIGHT KNOW ME. I DO HAVE A FEW GAS STATIONS IN MISSOURI CITY, AND I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS OF AN LC3. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY GOOD EVENING TO ALL THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS HERE AND THE MAYOR PRESENT. I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF THINGS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO PUT A GAS STATION IN MISSOURI CITY. I CAN DO A I CAN DO THAT PROCESS IN SIX MONTHS IN ANOTHER CITY IN HERE. IT TAKES ME TWO YEARS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND IT'S TRUE. I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT SAME SAME SCENARIO RIGHT NOW. AND JENNIFER KNOWS ABOUT MY PROJECT THAT I'M DOING CURRENTLY IN MISSOURI CITY. THERE IS A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS, ESPECIALLY THERE'S A LOT OF NOT A LOT OF LAND. FIRST OF ALL, IN LC3 THAT WE CAN FIND. AND SECONDLY, IF WE FIND SOMETHING, THERE'S A HUGE REQUIREMENT THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW. LIKE YOU SAID, THE RETENTION WALL. THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN IN MY PROJECT. THE OTHER REQUIREMENT WAS HOW THE LIGHT IS GOING TO BE PLACED, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE GOING TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEXT DOOR, WHETHER THOSE LIGHTS ARE GOING TO AFFECT THE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH ARE NEXT DOOR TO MY PROPERTY. SO THERE IS A HUGE REQUIREMENT, ESPECIALLY ON THE LC3. I THINK ADDING MORE REQUIREMENTS LIKE AN SP PERMIT, ESPECIALLY ADDING MORE REQUIREMENTS TO THIS PARTICULAR ALREADY EXISTING REQUIREMENTS, IS GOING TO ADD A LOT OF BURDEN TO ANYBODY, AND IT'S GOING TO DISCOURAGE A LOT OF GAS STATION OWNERS TO JUST GO TO ANOTHER CITY AND BUILD ANOTHER STORE THERE. I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THE CITY IS GROWING, AND THEY DON'T REQUIRE A LOT MORE GAS STATIONS THAN THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY THE AREA AROUND FORT BEND TOLL ROAD. YOU KNOW, WE DO REQUIRE THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE RESIDENTIAL COMING ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN. AND I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A NEED OF MORE GAS STATIONS, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. AND I KNOW THAT HERE WE ARE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHY SP IS REQUIRED. BECAUSE SOMEBODY PUT A GAS STATION, RIGHT? NOT NOT NOT NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT NEXT TO THE PARK. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE GOT MAD. THAT'S WHY THE RESIDENTS OF MISSOURI CITY GOT MAD BECAUSE SOMEBODY ALLOWED THEM TO PUT A GAS STATION RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARK WHERE KIDS ARE PLAYING EVERY DAY. AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE MAD. NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE PLACED IN CLOSE TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE A LOT OF GAS STATIONS IN ALL AROUND THE CITY. HOUSTON, MISSOURI. STRAFFORD. ANYWHERE YOU GO, THERE'S GOING TO BE GAS STATION RIGHT NEXT TO THE RESIDENCE. BUT BECAUSE IT WAS PLACED RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARK, THAT'S WHY MISSOURI CITY RESIDENTS DID NOT LIKE IT. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. MY ONLY QUESTION IS THOSE GAS STATIONS WHO ARE ALREADY GRANDFATHERED INTO THIS SHOULD NOT BE AFFECTED, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE GAS STATIONS LIKE I LIKE

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MINE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOT PAID OFF THE PROPERTY AS OF RIGHT NOW. IF YOU TELL ME THREE YEARS DOWN THE STREET THAT, HEY, YOU NEED TO CLOSE DOWN YOUR GAS STATION, THAT'S MY BREAD AND BUTTER AND I'M NOT GOING TO SURVIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO GET ME BANKRUPT. I MEAN, THOSE STATIONS THAT WE HAVE, IT'S COST US A LOT OF MONEY. WE PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES HERE, WE PAY ALL THE TAXES HERE. WE KEEP THE STORE CLEAN. WE DON'T SEE ANY HOMELESS GUYS STANDING OUTSIDE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO AM I REQUIRED? I'M JUST REQUESTING THAT YOU GUYS DON'T HURT THOSE EXISTING GAS STATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE IN MISSOURI CITY. THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE PHILMONT BABY. HELLO. GOOD EVENING ALL. MY NAME IS PHILMONT BABY. I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE GAS STATION PROPOSAL. I'VE SPOKEN WITH MANY OTHER GAS STATION OWNERS AROUND MISSOURI CITY. I AM ACTUALLY A RESIDENT OF MISSOURI CITY. SO IS, I WOULD SAY, 95% OF MY FAMILY. WE HAVE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT MISSOURI CITY AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT. AFTER SPEAKING WITH MANY INDIVIDUALS THAT OUR GAS STATION OWNERS, MYSELF, MY FAMILY, WE HAVE A PROPERTY ON CARTWRIGHT ROAD. THIS PROPOSAL, THEY FELT, WAS A LITTLE BIT EGREGIOUS, EGREGIOUS, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT THE EXISTING PROPERTIES HAD NO SAY. THERE WERE NO UNIQUE LETTERS OR INFORMATION GIVEN TO PROPERTY OWNERS IN REGARDS TO WHAT TYPE OF ZONING THAT THEY WERE IN. WE HAD TO DO A LOT OF RESEARCH. I PERSONALLY MYSELF HAVE CALLED INTO CITY HALL, HAVE NOT RECEIVED A CALL BACK FROM RESEARCHING. I THINK OUR PROPERTIES LLC TWO PROPERTY. WE FEEL THAT THIS PROPOSAL WAS NOT WELL THOUGHT OUT, ESPECIALLY FOR TAXPAYING CITIZENS THAT OWN BUSINESSES OUT HERE IN MISSOURI CITY. THE EXISTING BUSINESSES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE SOMEHOW REMOVED FROM THIS PROPOSAL. WE HAVE NO ISSUES FOR THE FUTURE OF GAS STATION BUILDINGS OR GAS STATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO BE BUILT OUT, BUT THE EXISTING ONES SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF LEEWAY, ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THEY WERE PASSED TO BE BUILT. AND THAT'S LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN SAID BEFORE, A LOT OF THESE GAS STATIONS, THEY ARE THE BREAD AND BUTTER. THEY ARE THE ONES THE BUSINESSES THAT HELP PROVIDE A INCOME FOR THESE FAMILIES. IF THERE IS EVEN A SLIGHT CHANCE THAT THESE GAS STATIONS THAT ARE EXISTING ARE IMPACTED, IT IS IT DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR THESE OWNERS BECAUSE MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT GOES INTO THESE GAS STATIONS. OUR FAMILY HAS OWNED THIS GAS STATION, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY CLOSE TO 15 YEARS WE'VE BEEN IN MISSOURI CITY AND WE LOVE EVERYBODY AROUND THERE.

IT'S DONE WELL. SO WE JUST ASK THAT THIS PROPOSAL BE RETHOUGHT OUT, AND IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE EXISTING OWNERS. WE AND I CAN I THINK I CAN SPEAK TO A LOT FOR A LOT OF THE GAS STATION MEMBERS THAT OWN PROPERTIES AROUND HERE, FOR ANYTHING THAT IS COMING IN THE FUTURE. SURE, INITIATE THIS INTO THAT PROPOSAL. BUT IF YOU HAVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE WHERE AN EXISTING BUSINESS THAT IS A MISSOURI CITY BUSINESS THAT IS A GAS STATION GETS IMPACTED, THIS PROPOSAL NEEDS TO BE VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT. SO AND I DO NOT FEEL LIKE THAT PROPOSAL HAS BEEN THOUGHT OUT. THERE IS SO MUCH GRAY SPACE INTO WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN BEFORE. IT EVEN FURTHER MOVES. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC MEETING WITH ALL GAS STATION OWNERS, AND HOW IT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT IT BEFORE ANY FURTHER MOVEMENT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. OKAY, THEN WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY. CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. WE DON'T ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT. AN ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED, ISN'T THERE FOR CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE THE. THERE'S A REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. OH. BECAUSE IT THE NEXT STEPS. YEAH. IT SAID IT SAID. A SECOND PLANNING ZONING PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S TONIGHT. OH OKAY. SO YOU CANADA OTHER ONE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL I SAW THAT I'M THINKING OKAY WELL WE HAVE ONE MORE MONTH. NO, THIS IS YOUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. OKAY. DISCUSSION. WHERE ARE WE? WE COULD MAKE A MOTION FOR IT.

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POSSIBLY. OR. WITH WITH CONDITION. WELL, YEAH. I MEAN, STAFF'S LOOKING FOR INPUT. YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO CHANGE WHAT'S IN THE, IN THE REPORT, YOU KNOW, WE DO THAT AND THEN VOTE ON ON THOSE CHANGES. THE CHANGE I'D ASKED TO BE INCLUDED IS TO SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE VEHICLE ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE I THINK THE DEFINITION IS A LITTLE UNCLEAR. OKAY. YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON IT, BUT 150FT AND I THINK THERE'S A REASON WHY BOOKINGS HAVE ALL OF THEIR EVS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THEIR PROPERTY. AND I THINK HAS TO DO WITH CONSTRUCTION. AND GASOLINE STATIONS HAVE TANKS ALL OVER. SO JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHY. 250FT.

THAT'S A LONG WAY TO MEET UP A LOT OF PROPERTIES. THOSE PROPERTIES ARE THOSE CARS ARE STATIC. THEY SIT THERE. COULD IT BE THE STATIC ELECTRICITY IS GENERATED TO. I THINK YOU'VE GOT INPUT FROM THESE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE. AND THIS IS WHAT THERE'S HAS BEEN INPUT. I CAN'T SPEAK DIRECTLY TO EVERYONE THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE. BUT THERE HAS BEEN INPUT RECEIVED. YES. SO WHAT WERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ASKED THAT WE DIDN'T DO? I BELIEVE MOST OF THEIR INPUT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE DRAFT THAT YOU HAVE MOST THE INPUT RECEIVED. IS THAT ON THE IS THAT ON THE PAGE NUMBER 40. IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE? I THINK WE MAY HAVE ASKED AT THE LAST ONE, DO WE HAVE A FEEL? WE KNOW HOW MANY GAS STATIONS EXIST, HOW MANY OF THOSE WOULD BECOME NONCONFORMING IF THIS WERE TO GO INTO EFFECT? AND BASED ON WHAT? BECAUSE AGAIN, THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE THE PROPERTY THAT THE GAS STATION IS LOCATED WOULD HAVE TO SHARE A COMMON LINE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, OR NOT BE AT THE INTERSECTION OF ONE OR MORE OF THOSE STREETS. SO JUST BASICALLY LOOKING AT A MAP OF IT, I THINK WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT PROBABLY A HANDFUL OF ALMOST 40 GAS STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT MAY NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT REQUIREMENT, 10 TO 10 TO 15%, 4 TO 6, 10 TO 12. I WOULD I WOULD PUT IT IN THE ABOUT 5 TO 5 RANGE. OKAY. AND. SPECULATION ON COULD THEY EVER BECOME INFORMED THEY COULD OR PROBABLY NO CHANCE THAT IF THEY'RE NOT CONFORMING. YEAH. IF THIS IS ADOPTED AND TO BECOME CONFORMING IF THEY'RE NOT WOULD REQUIRE SUV APPROVAL I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WOULD THAT BE A REALISTIC THING TO EVEN TRY? WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND. OKAY. WELL AND I THINK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO THE HEART OF, OF WHAT IS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DO IS PROTECT, YOU KNOW, THE INTEGRITY OF THOSE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS, YOU KNOW. SO I THINK IT'S A FOCUS ON HOW CAN YOU LAY OUT THE SITE THAT BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE BUSINESS PURPOSE IS, BUT RESPECTS, YOU KNOW, THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL THAT MIGHT BE NEARBY. SO I CAN'T SAY WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD BE APPROVED OR NOT. SO BUT IT'S UNDERSTANDING KIND OF WHAT THE PURPOSE. I'M PROBABLY ASKING TOO MUCH IF I SAY THAT WE CAN JUST HAVE A CLAUSE IN THERE TO SAY THAT THAT. EXISTING ONES DON'T, DON'T BECOME NONCONFORMING. TO PRESENTLY, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER WE SHOULD CONSIDER EXCLUDING THE EXISTING GAS STATIONS. I THINK MAYBE TOO MUCH FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW, COME IN COMPLIANCE OR CONFORMING OR COMPLIANCE, WHATEVER IT IS CALLED. THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE NEW NEW GAS STATIONS. I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT.

BUT I THINK FOR THE EXISTING WE CAN CERTAINLY INCLUDE NON AMENDATORY LANGUAGE THAT PROVIDES FOR EXISTING USES, JUST SO PEOPLE ARE CLEAR AS TO WHAT HAPPENS FOR THOSE NONCONFORMING USES. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE NONCONFORMING USES CONFORMING USES, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY CALL OUT THE NON-CONFORMING USES SO THAT BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE EXISTING

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AND WHO ARE CURRENTLY UTILIZING THEIR PROPERTY FOR THE CHANGED USE, KNOW THAT THEY WILL NOT BE REQUIRED AT THIS TIME TO CEASE OR TERMINATE THEIR NONCONFORMING USE. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THAT NON AMENDATORY LANGUAGE TO THE ORDINANCE JUST TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH ADDITIONAL NOTICE.

IN GAS STATIONS OR CORNER STORES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD STORES. I MEAN, AND TO THINK THAT WE WOULD BE GIVEN A DEATH SENTENCE BY PASSING AN ORDINANCE INTENDED FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION SITE WORK, AND WE'RE GOING TO AFFECT CORNER STORES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS AND NEED ALL THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES AND STATE GUIDELINES. BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM CONFORMING. AND THAT'S A HUGE INVESTMENT FOR A STORE THAT I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, I'M PICTURING AS I'M DRIVING AROUND ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THOSE STORES HAVE BEEN THERE AS LONG AS I HAVE 30 YEARS. AND AT NIGHT THEY'RE THE STORES THAT ARE OPEN. THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOING. SO AGAIN, THEY WOULD WANT TO PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO BECOME COMPLIANT OR. AND IT WOULDN'T STATE THAT. IT WOULD JUST STATE THAT THEY WOULD BECOME NON CONFORMING USES. AND THEN THERE'S NO RAMIFICATIONS TO THAT, THAT LANGUAGE. WELL, UNTIL THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES THEM. A GAS STATION. MAYBE POSSIBLE $30 MILLION TO BUILD. I MEAN ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT WITH AN EXISTING. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LANGUAGE MEANS FOR NONCONFORMING. DOES THAT MEAN THE CLOCK IS TICKING, OR ARE WE PUTTING ANY KIND OF.

SHE TRIED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. AND WHAT I INTERPRETED YOUR ANSWER WAS, IS THAT THIS LITTLE LIST OF THINGS THAT WOULD TRIGGER A SITUATION WHERE THEY WOULD BECOME. THEY WOULD FALL OUT OF FAVOR, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. IF THE CITY CHOSE TO PURSUE THAT, THERE'S A VERY STRICT SET OF RULES FROM THE STATE, CORRECT, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW IN ORDER TO PURSUE THAT.

OKAY. SO IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT THEY NECESSARILY WOULD PURSUE IT, BUT THEY COULD. AND THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A PRETTY HIGH BAR. IT IS OKAY TO AFFECT THAT CHANGE. IS IT WORTH BETTING THESE BUSINESSES ON THAT? I DON'T KNOW, I REALLY DON'T. BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND ON THIS, I WONDER WHY WE'RE DOING IT. OKAY. AND I KIND OF GET IT ABOUT NEW ONES.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THIS SITUATION IN THE PAST WHERE, YOU KNOW, EXISTING PROPERTIES JUST BECAUSE THE WAY THE LAWS ARE WRITTEN HAVE THIS NON-CONFORMING THING PUT ON THEM. SO, SO THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE AND IT'S ACTUALLY UP HERE RIGHT NOW, IS THIS FOR JUST GASOLINE SERVICE STATION, OR IS THIS FOR EVERY NON-CONFORMING USE IN MISSOURI CITY? THIS APPLIES TO EVERY NON-CONFORMING USE IN MISSOURI CITY. I WILL STATE, THOUGH, THAT THIS LANGUAGE THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO UPDATE THIS LANGUAGE AS WELL BASED ON STATE LAW. I THOUGHT THAT THAT HAD ALREADY COME TO THIS BOARD. BUT JUST AS AN FYI TO YOU ALL, THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO UPDATE THIS LANGUAGE AS WELL. SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO CREATE THIS LANGUAGE JUST FOR THE GASOLINE SERVICE STATIONS AND MAYBE TAKE OUT THE. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ABANDONMENT TOTAL DESTRUCTION MAKES SENSE. BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHANGE OR THAT THERE'S A PARTIAL DESTRUCTION OR AT LEAST ALLOWS THEM TO REBUILD.

WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT TO DETERMINE THE EXTENT TO WHICH THESE TYPES OF CHANGES CAN BE UTILIZED TO MAKE AN OPERATION TERMINATE. HOWEVER, I DO KNOW THAT THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENT REQUIRES MORE THAN THIS. SO THERE IS A COMPENSATION PIECE AS IT RELATES TO THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENT AS WELL. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THESE ITEMS. BUT AGAIN THE BAR IS VERY HIGH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS. I'M SORRY, I DON'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THING I'D BE LOOKING FOR IS SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES PROTECTION FOR EXISTING OWNERS FROM WHAT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTROL, LIKE A BAD STORM, OR THEY WANT TO MODERNIZE. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WE'D LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE DO INVEST IN THEIR PROPERTY AND ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT, BUT STILL, I MEAN, BUT STILL BE ABLE TO DO TO PUT SOME CONTROLS AROUND, AROUND NEW, NEW

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CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. SO WHAT WE CAN ADD THAT LANGUAGE TO THE PROPOSAL, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO WHERE ARE WE. SO I WAS HOPING THE ATTORNEY WOULD NUMBER. CAN I PUT AN EXAMPLE BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ON THIS. SO I HAVE A GAS STATION IN THE STATUS. IF I DECIDED TO DEMO THE ENTIRE GAS STATION AND BUILD A NEW ONE, WHAT WOULD BE THE CHANCE? WHAT WILL BE THE STATUS AT THAT TIME? THANK YOU. THE SCENARIO IS IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, RIGHT, EXISTING SITE, DEMO THE WHOLE THING TO REBUILD, RIGHT? IF IT'S IF UNDER THIS ORDINANCE LANGUAGE, IF IT SHARES A COMMON LINE WITH RESIDENTIAL AND THERE'S NOT ALREADY A SP APPROVAL, THEN THE CONFORMANCE FOR YOU TO REBUILD IT WOULD REQUIRE SP APPROVAL FIRST. IN CASE THAT HAPPENED LATER ON, WHICH YOU. STATION I THINK THE MODEL. SO THEY FOLLOW THE NEW. NO. BECAUSE THIS HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED. THIS WASN'T THERE. IT HAD THIS BEEN ADOPTED THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO GET AN SP. AND WHAT THE UNKNOWN FOR US IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING AN SUV OR NOT. WELL, AND I WOULD SAY FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION AT THE INTERSECTION, THEY DO NOT SHARE A COMMON LINE WITH A RESIDENTIAL, AND THEY'RE WITHIN THEIR AT THE INTERSECTION ITSELF. SO IT WOULD BE FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE DISTANCE OF THE INTERSECTION AND OR SHARE A COMMON LINE WITH RESIDENTIAL. AND IF THIS PASSES, THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO DETERMINE OF THOSE 40 GAS STATIONS, THE EXACT NUMBER. THAT WOULD BE FALL UNDER THE NONCONFORMING. RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WHERE ARE WE? PROPOSE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CHANGES WITH CHANGES, CHANGES IN THE TWO THINGS I WOULD SAY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE ONE CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY EXEMPTIONS FOR ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGING. AND THEN SECONDLY, TO LOOK AT CHANGING THE NONCONFORMING USE LANGUAGE TO ALLOW EXISTING PROPERTIES TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY. AND ALLOW IT CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY AND ALSO REBUILD.

PARTIAL DESTRUCTION. OR SO. BASICALLY, LEGAL WOULD WOULD WORK ON THE NECESSARY WORDING TO, TO, TO KIND OF PROTECT THAT BUSINESS OWNER TO THE EXTENT THEY COULD. AND I THINK YOU.

YOUR VOICE IS KIND OF HEARD OUR OUR THOUGHTS TODAY AND MUCH BETTER EXPRESS THAT. OKAY. OKAY.

SO IS THAT A MOTION. MAKE THAT MOTION. PRESS THE BUTTON. PRESS THE BUTTON OKAY. CAN'T GO BACK THE OLD FASHIONED WAY. CAN. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION.

YES I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE LATITUDE FOR THE PEOPLE. YEAH. IT IT ATTEMPTS TO PROTECT EXISTING BUSINESS OWNERS AS MUCH AS WE LEGALLY CAN UNDERSTAND. THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD KIND OF PHRASE IT. AN ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRICAL. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. ANYBODY WILLING TO SECOND THAT MOTION. SO I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT'S ON MY. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE TWO NAMES BECAUSE I DON'T SEE TWO NAMES I DO SAYS THE MOTION CLOSED, BUT I CAN'T. OH THERE IT GOES. OH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WELL, IT'S STILL THERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE WHO SECONDED IT. IT DIDN'T SHOW UP.

MOTION CARRIES OKAY. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO B ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, YARD FURNITURE. I'VE

[b. Accessory Structures - Yard Furniture]

BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. YARD FURNITURE. THIS ONE SCARED ME UNTIL I READ THE REPORT. YEAH, SO? ACCESSORY BUILDING STRUCTURES. SO ZONING DISTRICTS, YOU HAVE PRIMARY PRINCIPAL USE THAT. THOSE ARE THE PERMITTED USES THAT ARE SPELLED OUT FOR EACH OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS.

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ACCESSORY USES. BUILDING STRUCTURES ARE THINGS THAT SUPPORT THAT PRIMARY USE ARE OR ARE SUBSEQUENT TO THOSE PRIMARY USES. SO WE HAVE STANDARDS IN SECTION NINE THAT PROVIDE FOR ACCESSORY ACCESSORY BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES PERMITTED IN RESIDENTIALLY ZONED AREAS. AND SO THOSE ARE LIKE YOUR YOUR SHEDS, STORAGE UNITS ARE TYPICAL ONES. GARAGES ARE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. AND SO THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES THAT ARE SPELLED OUT. THERE'S CERTAIN TERMS AND PROVISIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, INCLUDING THE NUMBER THAT CAN BE ON A ON A PROPERTY, HEIGHT AREA SETBACK AND SCREENING IN CERTAIN CASES. AND THEN THERE'S A LIST OF EXCEPTIONS. YARD FURNITURE. SO CHAIRS, PATIO FURNITURE YOU KNOW IT. IT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE NUMBER HEIGHT AREA SCREENING. WELL NUMBER HEIGHT AREA REQUIREMENTS. EXCEPT THAT YARD FURNITURE CAN ONLY BE LOCATED BEHIND THE MAIN BUILDING. SO YOUR, YOU KNOW, CHAIRS, LAWN, PATIO CHAIRS, THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE BEHIND YOUR HOME OR IN THE BACKYARD AREA. THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE YARD FURNITURE FROM THAT ACCESSORY BUILDING STRUCTURE PROVISION. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. NO OTHER CHANGES TO ACCESSORY BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU ALL ARE HEARING AND RECEIVING THIS REPORT AND DRAFT ORDINANCE. SO YOU'LL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR INPUT, RECOMMENDATION AND FINAL REPORT TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE. SO. THE WAY I READ IT WAS THERE'S SOMETHING TO DO WITH STATE LAW THAT MOTIVATED THIS CHANGE. MORE MORE LOCAL BECAUSE THIS IS YEAH, THIS IS ALL LOCAL. I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORDING, BUT IT WAS LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED THAT MOTIVATED REMOVING THIS FROM THE LIST. WELL, AND SO I THINK IT'S PARTLY IN AN EFFORT TO UPDATE AND REVISE YARD FURNITURE REALLY IS PURVIEW OF YOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AS OPPOSED TO A CITY KIND OF REGULATION ON THAT. SO REALLY, THIS IS THIS DOES NOT EXEMPT OR CHANGE ANY PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, ASSOCIATION RULES THAT WOULD STILL, YOU KNOW, PERTAIN TO WHATEVER PROPERTY, BUT THIS WOULD JUST REMOVE IT FROM THE CITY'S OVERSIGHT AND OVERVIEW. OKAY. SO WE ARE LETTING THE HOA TO HANDLE THAT GOING FORWARD. HOW ABOUT THE OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE AN HOA? AND IF WE SEE THESE YARD FURNITURE IS THROUGHOUT THE FRONT YARD OR SIDE YARD OR WHATEVER, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? RIGHT. AND IF THIS PROVISION MOVES FORWARD, THEN THE CITY WOULD NO LONGER ENFORCE THAT TYPE OF RESTRICTION. AND SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOUR HOA, YOUR DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE DESIGNED FOR THE HARMONY, YOU KNOW, OF THOSE PARTICULAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AND SO IF AN HOA HAS THIS TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UNIFORMITY STANDARD OR LOCATION STANDARD, THEN IT'S BETTER REGULATED AT THE HOA LEVEL, RIGHT? SO THE SUBDIVISIONS DON'T HAVE HOA STILL IN RISK. SO THE SUBDIVISION THAT WOULDN'T HAVE THOSE PRIVATE RESTRICTIONS WOULD JUST BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S STANDARDS. THAT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL, RIGHT? WELL, CODE ENFORCEMENT ENFORCES THE CITY STANDARDS. SO IF THIS PROVISION IS REMOVED, CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD JUST ENFORCE CITY CODE STANDARDS. AND THAT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE ANYWAY. SO YEAH. SO CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT ENFORCING PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS. OKAY. SO WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? YES WE DO. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. HALEY. KYLE. GO AHEAD. WE'VE STILL GOT A QUORUM

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MEETING. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE TONIGHT. MY NAME IS HALEY KYLE. I RESIDE IN QUAIL VALLEY FUND HOA AT 3003 BONNIE BRIER DRIVE WITH MY PARTNER, SIMON BOISE. WE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS IN MISSOURI CITY FOR 13 YEARS. RECENTLY, WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING COMPLAINTS ABOUT OUR HOME AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, OUR OUR EXCUSE ME, OUR LAWN FURNITURE THAT WAS PLACED AFTER WE RELANDSCAPED OUR FRONT YARD LAST MAY IN 2024. OUR HOA SENT US A VIOLATION LETTER IN JANUARY OF 2025, USING THE CITY'S ORDINANCE AS ITS REASONING AS NOT BEING ALLOWED TO HAVE OUR CHAIRS IN OUR FRONT YARD. I AM HERE TO ADDRESS THIS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE TODAY, TO SHARE OUR STORY AND REASON FOR OUR REQUEST TO REMOVE LAWN FURNITURE FROM THIS ORDINANCE.

SIMON AND I BELIEVE THAT BEING IN OUR FRONT YARD ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD COMMUNITY AND FRIENDSHIP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. SINCE WE PUT THE CHAIRS OUT, WE ARE NOW MORE FAMILIAR WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND ENGAGE IN MORE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW THERE ARE STORIES AND HISTORIES AND THEY NOW KNOW MINE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THEM AND CATCHING UP WITH THEM EACH TIME THEY APPROACH OUR HOME. I TRULY BELIEVE HEALING OUR COMMUNITIES AS A SIMPLE AS PUTTING A COUPLE OF CHAIRS ON THE FRONT LAWN AND TAKING THE TIME TO ENGAGE WITH ONE ANOTHER, WE FEEL THAT OUR COMMUNITIES NEED MORE INTERMEDIATE SPACES OR FRONT PORCHES THAT SHAPED OUR CULTURE HERE IN AMERICA, SPACES THAT ALLOW MOMENTS OF UNPLANNED SOCIAL INTERACTION, WHERE WE CAN ENGAGE COMFORTABLY AND INFORMALLY WITH ONE ANOTHER TO STRENGTHEN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF ONE ANOTHER, AND TO WELCOME THE STRANGER AND HOPE THEY BECOME A FRIEND. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THIS HAS BEEN A VERY UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE FOR MY HUSBAND AND I. WE MOVED TO MISSOURI CITY AFTER LIVING IN HOUSTON FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND CHOSE THIS LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY HERE AND SUDDENLY FINDING OURSELVES BEING WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TARGETED THROUGH THE ANONYMOUS REPORTING SYSTEM FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ALSO HOPE WOULD EVENTUALLY BE ADDRESSED BY THE CITY AS WELL. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE STAFF I HAVE ENGAGED WITH DURING THESE SEVERAL MONTHS REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE, AND I HOPE THAT I SHOULD THIS PROPOSED CHANGE BECOME PERMANENT AND YOU WILL ENJOY SPENDING TIME WITH US IN OUR FRONT YARD VERY SOON. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A SECOND. SHE VOTES PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S A COMMUNITY IN MEMORIAL OF HILLCREST. HAD THE SAME ARCHITECTS THAT WERE IN QUAIL VALLEY BACK IN THE 70S. AND IT'S A. I'VE BEEN DOING WORK THERE FOR 30 YEARS. DURING COVID. THEY STARTED THIS TRADITION OF THEY PUT THEIR CHAIRS NEAR THE CURB BY THEIR MAILBOX, AND EVERYBODY WALKED AND GOT TO KNOW ALL THEIR NEIGHBORS. AND NOW ALL THOSE CHAIRS ARE PERMANENT. SO WHAT YOU DESCRIBED WAS REALITY. TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER. SOMETIMES ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE WHO WERE VICTIMS OF THE SAME THING. AND THEY'RE NOW CALLING HOA, SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO WRITE A TICKET TO ME. WHY AREN'T YOU DOING IT HERE? SO IT'S NOT DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S VERY PERSONAL. I THINK THIS IS GREAT TO TAKE IT OFF AND PUT IT INTO THE HOA. AND THE HOA IS SAYING IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS ORDINANCE. YOU KNOW, LIFE'S TOO SHORT TO WORRY ABOUT THE CHAIRS IN THE FRONT YARD. BUT YOU CAN HAVE A GAS STATION. YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY. NO, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO MAKE A PROPOSAL TO AS STAFF AS WRITTEN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. WE HAVE A SECOND AND VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE MOVING ON. ITEM TEN. OTHER MATTERS. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

[a. Development Agreement between the City of Missouri City and Sienna 325 LP]

BETWEEN CITY OF MISSOURI CITY AND SIENNA 325 LP. CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT, A FIRST AMENDMENT, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY AND SIENNA. 325 LP BECAUSE IT'S THE REPORT SAID, IT'S LIKE THE NINTH OR 10TH. THERE HAVE

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BEEN SEVERAL AMENDMENTS, SO DON'T WORRY, WE GET LOST. YOU ALL RIGHT? SO JUST TO JUMP RIGHT IN. SO THE SENATE, THE CITY ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH SIENNA, 325 AND 2016 FOR A TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF WATSON SIENNA PARKWAY. THIS TRACT SPECIFICALLY IS LOCATED IN THE CITY LIMITS ONLY FOR LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS IT'S INSIDE CITY LIMITS ONLY FOR THE PURPOSE TO COLLECT SALES TAX AND USE TAX.

AND SO IN THESE AREAS, THE CITY DOES NOT PERMIT BUILDING PERMITS. OUR OVERSIGHT INCLUDES PLAT REVIEWS AND APPROVALS. AND THEN ONCE PLAT APPROVALS HAVE BEEN GIVEN AND PLAT IS RECORDED, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE COUNTY TO PERMIT AND REVIEW ANY, ANY BUILDINGS. SO JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR AHEAD OF TIME. AND SO FOR THIS SPECIFIC TRACT OF LAND IT IS DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND SO THE MIXED USE ALLOWS FOR ANY MIXES OF MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, CONDOMINIUM, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, OFFICE, RETAIL. AND SO ANYBODY THAT'S DEVELOPING ON THIS TRACT DOES HAVE TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE. SO THERE IS CURRENTLY A NEWLY DEVELOPED SHOPPING CENTER AT THIS LOCATION THAT WAS, AGAIN, NOT REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THEIR BUILDING PLAN TO THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY OR HAVE THEIR PLANS REVIEWED OR PERMITTED THROUGH US. AND SO THEIR DEVELOPMENT DOES INCLUDE A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL USES, AS WELL AS A CHILDCARE CHILDCARE CENTER. SO CURRENTLY IN THE CITY ZONING ORDINANCE, THE CHILDCARE CENTERS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS LK1 TO LK4 INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PARK. BUT IT DOES EXPLICITLY STATE THAT CHILDCARE CENTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN SHOPPING CENTERS OR IN INTEGRATED BUSINESS DEVELOPMENTS. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WHERE WE HAVE THIS ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU, WHICH PROPOSES TO ALLOW THE CHILDCARE FACILITY AT THIS LOCATION. STAFF IS PROVIDING A REVISED RECOMMENDATION, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROVIDED TO YOU WAS A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW FOR THE CHILDCARE CENTER, BUT WE ARE REVISING THAT TO REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS, WHICH WOULD BE A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION AND WOULD NOT ALLOW THE CHILDCARE CENTER IN THE IN THE FACILITY. AND SO THAT IS THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION. AND ONCE WE HAVE RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL, WHERE THEY WILL ALSO CONSIDER ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE REPORT, ANY QUESTIONS CHANGE YOUR MIND. YOU NOT SO MUCH CHANGED THEIR MIND, BUT THAT ANYTHING THAT'S SUBJECT TO, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARDS SHOULD BE CONSISTENT. AND SO THE CITY HAD APPLIES THAT TO SHOPPING CENTERS, INTEGRATED BUSINESS DEVELOPMENTS INSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT IN THE LIMITS FOR PERMITTING PURPOSES, THE STANDARDS SHOULD BE CONSISTENT AS IF IT WERE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. CAN YOU. BE CONSISTENT EVEN THOUGH IT'S POST DEVELOPMENT IN THE CHILDCARE CENTER IS THERE? THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED RIGHT TO PRESENT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND SAY THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT. SO WE CAN BE CONSISTENT. WE DIDN'T ASK FOR A. PRESENTATION SO THAT THAT PART, PART OF THE ISSUE IS WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND SO EVEN THOUGH WE AREN'T A PERMITTING AGENCY FOR THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THE USES THAT GO IN THAT DEVELOPMENT STILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, COMPLY.

SO THAT APPROVAL SHOULD STILL BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S ADOPTED CODES. SO TIMING WISE, YES. YOU KNOW, THE CHILDCARE FACILITY IS NOT OPEN YET. HOWEVER, THERE ARE BUILDING OUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO OPEN UP IN THE CENTER. BUT THEY ARE THAT PROPERTY IS STILL SUBJECT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WHAT'S THE AMENDMENT? I UNDERSTOOD IT WHEN YOU HAD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, BUT NOW. TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE THERE NO NEED FOR AN AMENDMENT.

WELL SO THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS SUBMITTED THE REQUEST TO CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT. OKAY. AND

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SO WHAT THE CONSIDERATION IS, IS THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE TABLE, IS THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION TO ALLOW SPECIFICALLY FOR CHILDCARE USE. AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATION ON CONSIDERING THAT IS TO REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S EXISTING CODES. AND SO IF WE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT, IT ONLY APPLIES TO THIS PROPERTY, THIS AGREEMENT ONLY APPLIES TO THIS DOESN'T DOESN'T AFFECT ANYBODY ELSE. THE SPECIFIC TRACK OKAY. DOES YOUR RECOMMENDATION WHILE CONSISTENT, STILL APPEAR TO ADVISE CITY COUNCIL IS TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION HERE. RIGHT. SO. SO IF WE VOTE FOR. EVEN THOUGH IT'S AGAINST YOUR RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. AND THINK OF IT IN TERMS TOO, BECAUSE THIS IS A LAND USE MATTER. SO YOU KNOW, THE RESTRICTION ON CHILDCARE IN SHOPPING CENTERS, IN INTEGRATED BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT LARGELY PERTAINS TO SAFETY OF, YOU KNOW, LOCATIONS OF LOADING, UNLOADING AREAS, CONFLICT ZONES, YOU KNOW, WITH KIDS GOING THROUGH PARKING LOTS THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THOSE, THOSE PARKING LOTS. SO IN TERMS OF THE DISCUSSION, THINKING, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES SHOULD ARE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF USE, WHETHER OR NOT THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES, TO HAVE A CHILD CARE FACILITY WITHIN THEM. SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT HERE? SO THIS WAS BUILT ON A TENANT HAS NOW STARTED A BUILD OUT. AND IF HE HAD NOT COME TO THE CITY AND ASKED FOR THIS AND HE JUST FINISHED AND OPEN UP. YES AND NO. SO THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER IS BUILDING OUT. SO THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW TENANTS THAT ARE GOING IN THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW, THIS BUILDING. SO THERE'S 2 OR 3 GO BACK TO THE WE DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN. THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS I THINK 2 OR 3 BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY. THIS IS ONE BUILDING THAT'S CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION. SO THERE IS A DESSERT SHOP THAT'S ON THE END CAP OF THAT BUILDING. AND THEN THIS CHILDCARE FACILITY IS PROPOSED FOR THE ■BALANCE. AND THEN THE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE BEING OCCUPIED BY OTHER TENANTS.

SO THERE'S BEEN DIFFERENT TOUCH POINTS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER OR DEVELOPER HAS MADE CONTACT WITH THE CITY. BUT BECAUSE IT'S A LIMITED PURPOSE AREA, THE LINES IN TERMS OF THE APPROVAL FOR USES HAS NOT BEEN CLEARED BEFORE. BECAUSE BECAUSE WE DON'T PERMIT THAT, WE DON'T USUALLY DO ZONING COMPLIANCE AND ALL OF THAT TYPE OF PROCESS. SO IN THIS CASE, THEY DID COME THROUGH PLANNING. THEY WENT THROUGH PREDEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IN TERMS OF THEIR ACTUAL OCCUPANCY AND TENANTS THAT DID NOT COME BEFORE THE CITY, BEFORE THEY SIGNED THEIR CONTRACTS AND WENT IN. AND SHOULD THEY HAVE. AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW IS, IS PARTICULARLY THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. BUT TO YOUR POINT ON ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, THE ENTIRE SIENNA COMMUNITY, WE HAVE NINE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS IN SIENNA PROPER AND THEN THIS AGREEMENT AND THEN I THINK THERE'S LIKE 1 OR 2 OTHERS THAT ARE OFF OF THOSE NINE. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS WITH DIFFERENT AREAS OF SIENNA. WHEREVER THERE IS NONRESIDENTIAL USES, THERE'S DIFFERENT REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN BE PERMITTED. SO ON TOP OF ON TOP OF ZONING OR ON TOP OF SUBDIVISION COMPLIANCE, ZONING COMPLIANCE HAS TO BE AN ELEMENT OF THAT, MEANING THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE ISSUING ZONING ZONING COMPLIANCE CERTIFICATES SO THAT THEY KNOW WHETHER IT'S THIS INITIAL USER OR ANY SUBSEQUENT USER THAT GOES IN THERE AFTER THAT, SO LONG AS THEY'RE SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE CITY APPROVAL FOR THOSE SPECIFIC TENANTS. OKAY, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO GET A BUILDING PERMIT TO START BUILDING? BECAUSE IT FALLS ON THE COUNT? BECAUSE IT'S LIMITED PURPOSE AND. SO AN OWNER HAS STARTED TO BUILD OUT A IN KIND OF IN HIS, YOU KNOW, HE'S FOLLOWING HIS SELF-INTEREST. HE'S DOING WHAT HE THINK IS RIGHT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T NEED TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT. BUT NOW HE'S FAR ALONG. HE SPENT MONEY.

AND THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO TELL HIM, STOP, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. SO THE INTENT IS, IS TO IS

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COMPLIANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT. I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE OWNER RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED THIS. HE WOULD HAVE TO STOP AND HE COULD NOT OPEN HIS CHILDCARE FACILITY RIGHT NOW.

THE CHILDCARE FACILITY WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT. IF THAT'S A YES, YOU WOULD NOT OR WOULD HE OR CAN HE JUST OPEN I MEAN, WHAT'S WHAT'S I THOUGHT HE'S REQUESTING THAT WE AMEND THE AGREEMENT TO ALLOW HIM TO OPEN. HE IS. BUT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY IS NOT TO ALLOW THAT. CORRECT. BUT WE COULD OVERRIDE THAT. I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. WHAT HAPPENS IF THE ANSWER IS NO? THEY WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT. BUT HE COULD STILL OPEN. THEY WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH I GET IT, BUT DO YOU DO YOU HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT ABILITY OVER HIM? YES, YES, YES. AGAINST HIM OR AGAINST THE DEVELOPER PROPERTY OWNER. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO SHUT OUT HIS TENANT. THAT'LL BE INTERESTING. OKAY. ONE MORE. DIDN'T WE HAVE SOMETHING COME BEFORE US FROM THE LAST SIX MONTHS? ROTHWELL STREET. WE HAD A SIMILAR ISSUE WITH A GUY THAT WENT FORWARD AND STARTED WORK, AND THE CITY HAD SAID. I'D SAID OKAY, BUT IT TURNED OUT IT WASN'T. WE CAME BACK AND HAD TO TAKE SOME ACTIONS TO MAKE HIM WHOLE. YEAH, OKAY. AND IS THIS THIS LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO ME.

YEAH. OKAY. JENNIFER, I WANT TO REMIND MYSELF. SO OUR ORDINANCE STATES THAT THE CHILDCARE CENTER HAS TO BE AN INDEPENDENT OR A BUILDING. CORRECT? IT CANNOT BE IN A BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLE INCIDENT HAPPENS PREVIOUSLY. I THINK WE MADE THAT STANDARD WHERE IT HAS TO BE AN INDEPENDENT BUILDING. STANDALONE BUILDING. CORRECT. THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING. NO. THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AND WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH I HAVE A TON OF RESPECT FOR ALL OF THEM. AND I RARELY GO AGAINST YOUR RECOMMENDATION, HOWEVER, I THINK A CHILDCARE CENTER NEEDS TO GO THERE. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU CONFUSE ME NOW, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SAY NEGATIVE. SO IT'S A POSITIVE THAT WE'RE GOING AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE ARE ALLOWING. HIS REQUEST FOR A SURE. AND REMEMBER, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS JUST THAT, A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF. YOUR MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AND THE AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED, OR TO ADOPT A REPORT WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT PROPOSED AMENDMENT. SO YES. OKAY. EXACTLY WHAT SHE SAID, EXACTLY WHAT SHE SAID. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT SAYS WE KEEP WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. WE DO NOT ALLOW ANY. WELL, NO, NO, THE AMENDMENT SAYS THAT THEY CAN HAVE THIS CHILDCARE CENTER HERE BECAUSE THE OWNER IS ASKING FOR IT. CORRECT. WE'RE SAYING YES OR NO.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO THAT QUESTION. ISN'T THERE A SIMILAR STYLE CHILDCARE FACILITY ON ON TEXAS PARKWAY, LIKE RIGHT UP THE STREET, OR AM I MISTAKEN THE OLD MOVIE THEATER? YEAH, THERE'S NOT ONE IN THERE. THERE'S NOT A CURRENTLY OPERATING. THERE WAS. RIGHT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES.

AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. WE WILL MOVE ON TO BE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. GREAT LAST ITEM ON THE

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AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. SO HAVE A COUPLE OF UPDATES FOR YOU ALL. I'M SURE YOU ARE ALL ALREADY AWARE OF OUR SPECIAL MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL. WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK, JUNE 4TH, TO PROVIDE THEM RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE COMP PLAN. AND JUST TO KIND OF PRESENT SOME OF THOSE ITEMS, WE'LL START OFF WITH THE PROJECT TIMELINE. WE DO HAVE A UPDATED PROJECT TIMELINE. IT IS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE CURRENTLY, JUST BRIEFLY. YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, JUNE THROUGH DECEMBER, WE WENT THROUGH SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, GOT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

ALL OF THIS YEAR, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER OUR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. WE HAD OUR WORKSHOP, I BELIEVE, IN APRIL. WE JUST PRESENTED THE DRAFT FINDINGS AND

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RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE WORKSHOPS WITH COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSION, AS WELL AS HOST A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE AND AS WELL AS RELEASE A COMMUNITY QUESTIONNAIRE AND THEN WORKING TOWARDS FINAL PLAN PLAN FINALIZATION AND ADOPTION TOWARDS OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. BUT OF COURSE, THAT'S REALLY JUST DEPENDENT ON THE WORKSHOPS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE DRAFT FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. SO IT'S KIND OF A MOVING TARGET.

WE'LL SEE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO TO TOWARDS OCTOBER. BUT AGAIN. SO TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.

SO THESE ARE THE UPDATES THAT WERE PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK. SOME OF THESE UPDATES TO THE LAND USE CHARACTER DISTRICTS. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE PRESENTED TO THEM.

SOME OF THEM WERE PRESENTED TO YOU AT YOUR WORKSHOP IN APRIL, BUT I'LL JUST KIND OF RUN THROUGH THEM. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM, WE'LL TAKE THE QUESTIONS TOWARDS THE END. SO I THINK DURING OUR WORKSHOP, WE PRESENTED THE AGRICULTURAL CHARACTER AND THE ESTATE CHARACTER, UPDATING BOTH OF THOSE PREVIOUSLY IN OUR CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED A RURAL CHARACTER THAT ALLOWS FOR THE SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT. SO TO KIND OF UPDATE THAT, MAKING THAT THE AGRICULTURAL CHARACTER TO FALL IN LINE WITH THE SD, WHICH IS FOR AGRICULTURE. AND I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF BECAUSE LET ME JUST POINT SOMETHING OUT BEFORE I GET TOO DEEP INTO THIS. SO VANESSA DID PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH THIS SHEET OF PAPER. THIS IS OUR LAND USE AND ZONING MATRIX. SO THIS IS MEANT AS A GUIDE TO BRIDGE BETWEEN THE LAND USE AND THE ZONING, BECAUSE THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WAS MISSING FROM OUR 2017 COMP PLAN.

WE HAD A LOT OF LAND USES IN THERE THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY SPECIFY WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS THEY CORRELATE WITH. SO THIS IS MEANT TO BE AS AN EASY GUIDE. YOU'LL SEE THE LAND USE DISTRICTS AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS THEY THEY FALL IN LINE WITH. SO PICKING BACK UP WENT THROUGH AGRICULTURAL CHARACTER ESTATE CHARACTER AGAIN. THAT'LL BE OUR LARGE LOT ESTATES. KEEPING THAT SIMILAR TO OUR EXISTING PLAN. THE SUBURBAN CHARACTER. WE HAVE OUR SUBURBAN CHARACTER COMMERCIAL AND WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL. AND SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS MEANT IS FOR A VERY LOW INTENSITY SINGLE FAMILY AND LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL. MOVING ON TO OUR AUTO ORIENTED CHARACTER. THIS INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT IS CALLED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL. AND AGAIN, I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE'S A LOT OF TERMS. AND TO MAKE IT EASY, IF YOU CHECK THE LAND USE, THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF LIKE WHERE THAT FALLS IN LINE WITH. SO THEY JUST KIND OF SCALE UP AS WE GO THROUGH. SEE. AND THEN FINALLY, I THINK TO WHAT WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CHANGE AND NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU ALL AT THE WORKSHOP, BUT WAS PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL, WAS THE UPDATE TO THE URBAN CHARACTER LAND USE DISTRICT. SO WHAT THE URBAN CHARACTER LAND USE DISTRICT? WE ARE PROVIDING THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS AND SO OVERLAYS JUST TO KIND OF BRIEFLY DISCUSS WHAT THEY ARE. THEY'RE BASICALLY A SPECIALIZED ZONING TOOL AND LAND USE TOOL, AND THEY LIE ON TOP OF YOUR EXISTING ZONING, AND THEY PROVIDE EXTRA REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS. AND SO THESE ARE OUR THREE OVERLAYS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. THE FIRST ONE IS THE DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY. AND THIS OVERLAY IS MEANT TO PROVIDE HIGH VISIBILITY MIXED USE GATEWAYS WITH QUALITY DESIGN INTO THE CITY. SO REALLY TARGETING THOSE ENTRANCES TO THE CITY, SUCH AS AREAS LIKE FONDREN ROAD SOUTH GESSNER, TEXAS PARKWAY, THE SECOND OVERLAY DISTRICT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. THIS ONE IS TO REALLY PROVIDE SMALL SCALE MIXED USE NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO WE'LL KIND OF SEE IS IF THERE'S EXISTING RESIDENTIAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT AVAILABLE THERE, A RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PROVIDE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LOWER SCALE COMMERCIAL TO COME IN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MIX OF RESIDENTIAL, JUST TO KIND OF BE MORE SCALED TO THE NEARBY RESIDENCES. AND THEN THE THIRD OVERLAY DISTRICT IS THE OR IS THE GATEWAY MIXED USE, AND THIS ONE IS FOR HIGH INTENSITY URBAN AND SPECIFICALLY AT CITY ENTRANCES. SO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE GATEWAY MIXED USE WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR AREAS LIKE TEXAS PARKWAY AND ALSO HIGHWAY SIX. YES. AND THEN JUST SOME OTHER UPDATES MADE TO THE LAND USE CHARACTER DISTRICTS. THE EMPLOYMENT CHARACTER. CURRENTLY IN OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, WE DESIGNATE A LOT OF OUR INDUSTRIAL AREAS AS BUSINESS PARK. SO WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE NAME OF THAT TO BE EMPLOYMENT CHARACTER. AND THAT

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WILL INCLUDE BOTH INDUSTRIAL AND BUSINESS PARK USES IN THE CITY. AND THEN THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION COMMUNITY FACILITIES. SO RIGHT NOW IN OUR LAND USE PLAN, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION OR DIFFERENT CHARACTER FOR PARK AND RECREATION. AND SO WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION WILL BE TO HAVE ALL OF THEM UNDER ONE UMBRELLA. SO COMMUNITY FACILITIES WILL INCLUDE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. AND I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT NOT A QUESTION COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS AND THE CONTINUED WORK ON IT. I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, MENTION IT BRIEFLY AND THEN BE QUIET. WE STILL DON'T MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT HEALTHCARE FACILITIES TO OUR GROWING OUR GROWING CITY. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THAT. I THINK BECAUSE ORIGINALLY AT OUR FIRST WORKSHOP, I HAD MENTIONED REDEVELOPMENT, THERE WAS A THERE WAS A PROVISION I'M NOT I'M PROBABLY NOT USING THE RIGHT WORD, BUT THERE WAS CONTENT THAT YOU CAN PUT IN THE PLAN THAT SPOKE TO REDEVELOPMENT, AND I WANTED TO USE THAT TO ALSO CONSIDER HEALTHCARE POLICY A HEALTHIER COMMUNITY, SOMETHING IN THERE TO PROVIDE FOR OUR YOUNG AND OLDER CITIZENS WHO CAN USE THOSE KINDS OF FACILITIES WITHOUT HAVING TO LEAVE MISSOURI CITY. THIS IS OUTSIDE OF ER AND URGENT CARES WHICH ARE WHICH ARE GOOD. SO JUST AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THAT, EVEN IF IT'S IN LANGUAGE ONLY ASPIRATIONALLY TO INCLUDE MENTION OF HOW WE'D LIKE TO PROVIDE HEALTHCARE SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS. I WILL SAY IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL, OF COURSE, I DIDN'T GO INTO A LOT OF DEPTH HERE, BUT IN SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE WE ARE TARGETING MORE REDEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS AREAS LIKE FM 1092, THERE'S A LOT OF BUILDINGS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR THAT ARE REALLY GREAT FOR REDEVELOPMENT, AND THAT WAS AN OPTION THAT WAS PRESENTED DURING COUNCIL. LIKE THESE WOULD BE GREAT AREAS FOR HEALTHCARE FACILITIES OR TO BE REDEVELOPED TO BE MORE USER FRIENDLY TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEARBY. SO DEFINITELY HEARD THAT AND WE'LL PUT IT INTO OUR REPORT. THAT'S GREAT. PAUL. THE BUSIEST INTERSECTION IN COVID-19, ONE OF THE BUSIEST INTERSECTIONS IN THE HIGHWAY 60.

DEFINITELY THIS INTERSECTION. AND THEN JUST JUST TO BALANCE OUT THAT, MY PREVIOUS COMMENT, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY LIKE THE GATEWAY OVER OVERLAY. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. WAS THERE CONVERSATION AROUND IN PARTICULAR THE ONE AT THE FORT BEND TOLL ROAD, GIVEN THAT IT'S A IT'S A TOLL ROAD AND PEOPLE MAY HAVE TO PAY TO ACCESS THAT ROAD TO GET TO OUR POTENTIAL GATEWAY. DO YOU MEAN LIKE AT THE AT THE ENTRANCE? YEAH. LIKE BECAUSE PEOPLE AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT A BIG DEAL. PEOPLE HAVE EASY TAGS. MOST PEOPLE HAVE EASY TAGS. BUT WAS THAT A DISCUSSION POINT AT ALL WITH HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET TO THE GATEWAY FREE, I GUESS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT I'M GETTING AT, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT UNDER ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM'S PURVIEW, BUT IT SHOULDN'T COST TO BE ON THAT TOLL ROAD. RIGHT. BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, OKAY. I KNOW THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO, BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE QUIET. I DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. YOU AND I SWAPPED SOME EMAILS ABOUT A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO THIS KNIGHTS ROAD THING. HOW DOES THAT DOES THAT MANIFEST ITSELF IN HERE, OR IS THAT GOING TO MAYBE WE LOOK AT THAT SEPARATELY. NO. AND I THINK IT DOES. AND SO I THINK THE APPROACH WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE IS THROUGH THOSE CHARACTER DISTRICTS, BECAUSE IN THOSE AREAS, I KNOW THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HEARD AND THAT WERE SPOKEN, I THINK THAT NIGHT AND SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THAT AREA SINCE THEN IS BECAUSE OF RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKETS IS FOR SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. AND SO THE APPROACH WOULD BE SUBURBAN. COMMERCIAL WOULD BE THE PRIMARY USE WITH THE OVERLAY THAT ALLOWS FOR MIXED USE. SO RESIDENTIAL USES WOULD STILL BE PERMITTED WITHIN THAT THAT AREA. THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL CHARACTER, IT'S IN THE DETAILS OF THAT CHARACTER DISTRICT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THROUGH THESE WORKSHOPS AND CONTINUED DISCUSSION, WE CAN KIND OF FIND THAT FINE LINE. BUT THE NATURE OF THAT CHARACTER DISTRICT IS TO HAVE MORE OPEN SPACE, MORE GREEN SPACE, AND CREATING STANDARDS THAT MAKE WHETHER YOU HAVE TO RESERVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LAND, YOU KNOW, FOR DETENTION PURPOSES OR FOR ANY KIND OF

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UTILITY PURPOSE, THAT IT'S BETTER INTEGRATED INTO THE SITE ITSELF. SO RIGHT NOW WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THOSE STANDARDS. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ON SITE DETENTION.

THERE'S SOME THAT MAY DO IT BETTER THAN OTHERS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE THE WATERWAYS AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT KIND OF AMENITIES OF THAT NATURE. BUT THE APPROACH WOULD BE, WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, CARVING IT OUT UNDER THAT CHARACTER DISTRICT SO THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, ANY ZONING DISTRICT THAT IMPLEMENTS IT THEN HAS SETBACK STANDARDS OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE LOT COVERAGE STANDARDS, THAT BETTER SPEAKS TO SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. BUT WHAT I GUESS I WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING MORE PRACTICAL THAN THE THEORETICAL THAT'S IN HERE OF WHAT WAS MENTIONED IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO CITY SERVICES THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE BROUGHT IN. IF THEY'RE BROUGHT IN, THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER PAYS. HE'LL PAY FOR THE SEWER LINES AND ALL THAT STUFF. BUT THE IMPACT ON THE WATER TREATMENT CENTERS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH OF WHAT I WAS. AND THAT'S ALREADY A IT'S A SWAMPY AREA. IT'S NOT GREAT. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COST A TON OF MONEY FOR A DEVELOPER TO BRING SERVICES TO THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING REALLY CLOSE. WHY NOT TRY AND FIND A WAY TO PARTNER WITH PARKS OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT? BECAUSE FROM AND DO AN ECONOMIC STUDY, WHAT'S IT REALLY MEAN TO THE CITY? WHAT WOULD THE COST OF THE CITY BE IF THAT GOT DEVELOPED. AND MAYBE THERE'S A SOLUTION THAT SOME OF THAT GETS SET ASIDE FOR A PARK, THE PARKS MONEY, BECAUSE THERE IS NO REAL PARK CLOSE BY. THE CLOSEST ONE, CITY HOLLOW, RIGHT? OR YOU'RE ENDING UP IN SIENNA SOMEWHERE. I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S WORTH LOOKING AT AND SO PROBABLY DOESN'T BELONG IN HERE. IT'S PROBABLY FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. I THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION TO LOOK AT FROM A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYTHING GOING IN THERE ANYTIME SOON. I WOULD ALSO PROBABLY ADD TO THAT, JUST TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN 2017, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE CURRENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE, THERE WAS NO OR I SHOULDN'T SAY THERE WAS NO, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY FORECASTED THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEING IN THAT AREA. AND SO WHILE WE HAVE HEARD THE RESIDENTS AND HAVE HEARD THEIR FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO THIS AREA, AS STAFF, AS APPOINTED OFFICIALS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, IT'S STILL TO AN EXTENT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO STILL LOOK OUT, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW TO SEE WHAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS SUCH AS THERE'S NO UTILITIES, IT'S IN A FLOODPLAIN. IT'S REALLY LIMITED INTO WHAT IT COULD BE. AND SO KIND OF IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST FIT FOR THAT. AND SO AS STAFF, WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL WOULD BE THE BEST. IT'S VERY LOW INTENSITY. AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY WAS TO COME IN AND DEVELOP IT, THEY HAVE VERY CERTAIN SITE RESTRICTIONS. BUT THE REALITY OF IT, OF IT IS, IS VERY LONG AWAY. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY THERE TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE OF THAT COULD BE. AND WE'LL JUST SAY, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS, BUT ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS LIKE IT'S STILL YEARS AND YEARS AWAY FROM SEEING ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE'S STILL A LOT, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY IN THAT AREA. I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT THE OTHER. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT THE OTHER SIDE.

THANK YOU. SO FIRST SPEAKER TONIGHT, I'M NOT SURE. WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE HAPPENED THERE.

BECAUSE I'M NOT I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INPUT THAT THEY GAVE. BUT I WAS KIND OF I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED THAT OF THE SENTIMENT THAT THAT WAS EXPRESSED THERE. AND SINCE I DIDN'T SEE THE PRESENTATION, I'M NOT SURE THAT I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT.

SHE HAD COMMITTED A LOT OF HER LIFE TO THIS PROJECT, AND SHE AGREED IDEAS. BUT THERE WERE VERY FEW HOMES THAT SHE REPRESENTS, AND SHE WAS THINKING BIG, AND I WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? THERE'S ONLY A FEW OF THEM. AND HOW WAS SHE WOULD GET PASSIONATE ABOUT ALL SORTS OF THINGS WITHIN THE CITY. SO SHE'S AWESOME. AND I'M SORRY TO SEE HER DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS HOPING FOR. I THINK THEY'RE HOPING FOR GREEN SPACES. YOU MIGHT LISTEN TO THE FIRST PROBABLY, WHAT, 40 MINUTES IN THE CITY OF THE MEETING FROM LAST WEEK? BECAUSE IT'S ALL IN IN POCKET, RIGHT. AND I SEE THEIR POINT. I'VE BEEN OVER THERE. I THINK AGAIN THE THEME AS POSSIBLE. I THINK FOR THE CITY TO LOOK WITH PARK, CARVE OUT A SECTION OF THAT AREA. IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A LONG WAY FROM CITY SERVICES.

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IT'S OFF THE BEATEN PATH. THE ROAD IS A TWO LANE ROAD. AND CARVE OUT A PIECE OF THAT AND SPEND SOME MONEY TO PARK THERE, AND WE POSSIBLY SEE SOME CONSTANTLY ALLOWING PEOPLE TO DO DEVELOPMENTS AND NOT PUT PARKS IN. WE GIVE THE CITY MONEY, NOT SURE WHAT'S IN THE PARK FUND, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT THAT AND OFFSET THAT AGAINST THE COST THE CITY IS GOING TO INCUR TRYING TO SERVICE THAT AREA. WHENEVER SOMEBODY GETS PUT IN AND IT MIGHT COST BENEFIT STANDPOINT. SO NET PRESENT VALUE OF SAVING, NOT HAVING TO SPEND THAT MONEY INSTEAD TO PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT USEFUL TO THE CITY. AND I REMEMBER TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THAT. WHAT PART OF OUR POPULATION WERE ALL THE HOUSES ARE, IS GOING TO DRIVE OVER THERE TO GO INTO THEIR BACKYARD AND. IT JUST BEING A PART, EVERYTHING'S LOGISTIC, EVERYTHING. I THINK THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE IN ORDER TO SEE HOW IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO REMOVE. I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN IN ALWAYS SIMILAR TO IT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU DO WITH IT. IF YOU JUST PUT SOME WALKING TRAILS BACK IN THERE AND LEAVE IT GOING ON THE ROAD, I JUST THINK, WELL, I MEAN, SHE'S REALLY BRIGHT AND DISAPPOINTING THAT SHE'S DISAPPOINTED, BUT. WELL, YEAH, I MEAN BECAUSE OUR FROM WHAT I REMEMBER FROM THE EARLY DAYS IS AND YOU KNOW WE HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW WE DON'T WANT DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW WE WANT OPEN SPACE. WE WANT YOU YOU KNOW IT'S THERE'S WILDLIFE OUT THERE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY THEY KIND OF HAVE TO GET AROUND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE OWN THAT PROPERTY, OKAY. AND, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE IT AWAY.

RIGHT. AND THEY'RE STILL WRITING A CHECK EVERY YEAR. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT TO ME IS, IS THE STRUGGLE THAT, THAT WHEN YOU COME IN WITH THAT APPROACH THAT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEBODY'S JUST GOING TO GIVE ALL THAT PROPERTY AWAY AND SAY, YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE FOREST AND IT'S GOING TO BE WILDLIFE AND HABITAT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO. I THINK THAT THEY, THEY HAVEN'T ARTICULATED A PLAN THAT'S AND I THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THE CITY. I WAS TEN FEET AWAY FROM A BOBCAT WHILE I WAS WALKING MY DOG. AND I'M NOT EXAGGERATING. ON ROBINSON ROAD NEAR THE WATER. BEAUTIFUL. THEIR HABITAT BEING CHANGED DRAMATICALLY WITH ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION AND THAT OFFICE. AND I MEAN, THERE'S WILDLIFE EVERYWHERE. THANK YOU. YEAH.

JENNIFER, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THE HOMEOWNER WAS REFERRING TO. WHAT DO WE HAVE PLANNED OVER THERE? IS THAT A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMING ON KNIGHT ROAD ON THE KNIGHT ROAD. SO THERE'S NO IDENTIFIED PROJECT. THERE'S DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT HAVE PROPOSED DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT NOTHING THAT A, A APPLICATION HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SUBMITTED FOR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, THERE'S A GRAY PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, A ZONE THAT'S THERE THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2007, WHEN PRIVATE UTILITIES WERE STILL TIED TO ZONING DISTRICTS. SO THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS APPROVED AT THE TIME, WITH THAT OWNER SEEKING TO DEVELOP LARGE ACREAGE PLOTS. BUT THEY NEVER MOVED FORWARD WITH BUILDING THAT. AND THE AREA WHERE THE METRO STATION IS, IS THAT THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE? SO IT'S ALSO IT'S THE BURBANK TOWN CENTER. THREE GO AHEAD. NO. YEAH, IT'S A MIX. SO THE PD THAT THE THAT THE METRO GARAGE IS IN INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY. AND IT ALSO INCLUDES COMMERCIAL. SO I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. THE AREAS THAT ARE ALONG THE HIGHWAY SIX FRONTAGE ARE MEANT TO BE COMMERCIAL. AND THEN THOSE BEHIND IT ARE FOR MULTIFAMILY. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAD ANYBODY SIGN UP OKAY. WE OUTLAST THEM. WE DID. AND I GUESS YOU'VE GOT OUR INPUT. SO I THINK WE NEED ONE MORE MOTION.

FOR MOTION AND A SECOND. AND MOTION CARRIES HOPEFULLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK Y

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.