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OBVIOUS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS MONDAY, JUNE 25TH. WE'LL NOW CALL THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:01 P.M. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ROLL CALL. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM
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OF COUNCIL. NUMBER THREE ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS. CITY DEPUTY CITY CLERK. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, WE DO. WE HAVE MISS DENISE. ABEYRATHNA. AS YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. DID A GOOD JOB. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO MY NAME IS DENISE ABEYRATNE. I LIVE AT 4427 PINE LANDING DRIVE. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TODAY. SO I WANTED TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND SAY THANK YOU. WE RECENTLY HEARD ABOUT I THINK THERE'S A COMMUNITY IMPACT ARTICLE TODAY ABOUT THIS TRAIL ON KNIGHT ROAD BY THE METRO BUS STATION. IT'LL BE CONNECTING HIGHTOWER TO THE METRO BUS TO, I THINK EVEN DOWN IN SIENNA, I FORGET, I FORGET YOU CAN GET DOWN IN SIENNA THROUGH MCKEEVER. SO I THINK IT'S SUPER EXCITING. YOU KNOW, IT'S EXACTLY THE TYPE OF STUFF WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND I THINK IT WILL BE AMAZING FOR PROMOTING CONNECTIVITY AND LIKE, WE'RE JUST EXCITED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT, BE PART OF, YOU KNOW, SEEING WHAT THAT PROCESS IS LIKE AND THE VISIONING OF IT. AND I THINK MY COMPADRE BOB HAS PROBABLY ALREADY SENT YOU ALL AN EMAIL ABOUT SOME, SOME THOUGHTS, JUST BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY DAY AND WE I CAN PERSONALLY SAY AS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT, I ACTUALLY USED TO WALK THAT ROUTE HOME FROM HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY DONE IT BECAUSE IT IS REALLY CLOSE. IT ACTUALLY TOOK LIKE 30 MINUTES BETWEEN ME AND MY FRIENDS TO WALK HOME, AND WE DID IT QUITE OFTEN WHEN WE MISSED THE BUS OR WERE JUST GOOFING OFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I THINK IT'LL BE SAFER FOR THOSE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST GOING TO BE IN THAT CINEMARK, KROGER AREA, METROBUS AREA, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO WALK TO ALL FOUR CORNERS AS A REASON TO BE IN ONE AREA VERSUS THE OTHER. SO JUST REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THAT. AND FUNNY ENOUGH, IT BRINGS ME BACK TO THOSE HIGH SCHOOL DAYS OF RUNNING AROUND IN THE FIELDS BACK THEN. SO THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER THING AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT IS KIND OF THE VISION FOR THE AREA. I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE HISTORICAL CEMETERY THAT'S THERE. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL WILDLIFE, WHICH A LOT OF RESIDENTS, I THINK THROUGHOUT THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS HAVE TOLD YOU ABOUT IT. WE'VE HEARD FROM THE OLD LADIES. YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM THE YOUNG KIDS, I'M SURE. SO ALL AND EVERYTHING. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S BASICALLY ANIMAL NURSERY SEASON.SO ALL THE YOUNG BAMBI'S, THEIR MOMS ARE BRINGING THEM OUT INTO MISSOURI CITY. AND SO THE, YOU KNOW, YOUNG BAMBI'S ARE, YOU KNOW, RUNNING AROUND IN THEIR LITTLE SPINDLY LEGS AND THEY FIND MISSOURI CITY AS THEIR SAFE ZONE. SO I JUST THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITING INITIATIVES AND THINGS BEING DISCUSSED BY THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU ALL ARE, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH US IN PARTNERSHIP TO HEAR, HEAR OUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AND TRY AND PARTNER WITH US TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE ONE, YOU KNOW, SILVER BULLET TYPE OF SOLUTION. I WISH IT WAS LIKE THAT SOMETIMES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS LIKE THAT.
BUT I FOUND IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIPS. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO PAVE, WHICH IN 19 SECONDS IS TOO QUICK, BUT IS THE WHAT'S PLANTATION ROAD, THE NAMING OF IT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SIENNA PLANTATION GOT RENAMED BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DROP THAT PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, OUR HISTORY AND REALLY FOCUS ON THE FORWARD PART. AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT NAMING WHAT'S PLANTATION ROAD, HENRY WATTS ROAD, WHICH IS THE, THE FREEDMEN WHO THE CEMETERY IS NAMED AFTER AND WHO IS, WHOSE DESCENDANTS STILL LIVE ON THE LAND TODAY. SO JUST AN IDEA. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH THE COMMISSIONER, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY COOL. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU GUYS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
[(a) Receive a Presentation and Hold a Discussion - Comprehensive Plan Upda...]
DISCUSSION. MR. MAYOR, THIS DOES CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER FOUR ARE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR A TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION AND HOLD DISCUSSION ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. WE'LL START OFF WITH WHOEVER IS PRESENTING. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL I'LL KICK THIS OFF TONIGHT. YOU'RE HERE TO ON JUNE THE 4TH, STAFF PRESENTED TO YOU A DRAFT UPDATE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT WAS SIX MONTHS IN THE MAKING. WE INCORPORATED A LOT OF THE STAKEHOLDERS COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. IT WAS TEN CORRIDORS, SPECIFICALLY OF WHAT THE VISION 2014 NEEDS TO BE. COUNCIL ASKED STAFF SOME QUESTIONS. COUNCIL[00:05:02]
SAID WE NEED EXTRA TIME TO DIGEST ALL THIS INFORMATION, SO HOPEFULLY YOU HAD THE TIME TO DIGEST THAT INFORMATION. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FORWARD TO TODAY IS STAFF IS GOING TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL ASKED. THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. WE'RE SPECIFICALLY NOT PRESENTING THE SEVENTH CORRIDOR, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE THAT PERTAINS TO THE CEMETERY, WHICH STAFF HAS NOT HAD THE ANSWERS THAT YOU WANT. IT'LL TAKE US SOME MORE TIME. SO WE'RE NOT READY TO PRESENT THAT AGAIN.THE PROCESS IS TODAY TO WORKSHOP, GO THROUGH ALL THE TEN CORRIDORS MINUS THE SEVENTH AND WAIT FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AT THE END. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING WHERE THIS WILL BE PRESENTED. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER JOINT PLANNING AND ZONING AND COUNCIL MEETING. HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO ASK QUESTIONS. WE WANT YOU TO GIVE AS MUCH AS INPUT POSSIBLE TODAY, BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP US SPEED THE PROCESS, WHICH YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE IN ANOTHER MEETING AS WELL. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER THOMAS TO GO OVER THE PRESENTATION BRIEFLY ONE MORE TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
GOOD EVENING. SO AS SASHI MENTIONED, WHEN WE GATHERED ON JUNE 4TH FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING, WE TALKED AND WE RECEIVED COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION POINTS FROM YOU AND THEN ALSO FROM THE PUBLIC. AND WE'RE PUTTING ALL OF THAT TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT BACK TO YOU ALL FINAL ITEMS THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER TO TAKE ACTION ON. AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO BROADLY CATEGORIZE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WERE CAPTURED IN THAT JUNE 4TH DISCUSSION IN THE AREA OF LAND USE, ZONING, COMPATIBILITY, DESIGN STANDARDS. WHAT IS OUR IDENTITY AS A COMMUNITY AND HOW DOES THAT TRANSLATED THROUGH THESE CORRIDORS AND THROUGH DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THOSE CORRIDORS? WALKABILITY, AS YOU JUST HEARD THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, CONNECTIVITY, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT CONTINUES TO BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PROCESS. AND THIS COUNCIL'S COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE TO DO SO. AND THEN WHAT? WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE TIME TO RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM YOU ALL ON IS LOCATION GUIDANCE. THAT CAN ALSO BE PUT INTO POLICY WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO CERTAIN LAND USES, INCLUDING A CHILD CARE FACILITIES, ASSEMBLY USES AND TELECOMMUNICATION TOWERS. HISTORIC PRESERVATION. AS SASHI MENTIONED WITH FOCUS AREA SEVEN, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE FOR TONIGHT AND BRING THAT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AT A LATER TIME FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND INPUT. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO STORY NORRIS, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW AND START US OFF ON THE CORRIDORS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
BEFORE YOU START, I THINK THERE WAS A WHEN THIS WAS LAST PRESENTED. COUNCILMEMBER RILEY HAD ASKED, AND I AGREE WITH IT, THAT AFTER WE DO EACH NUMBER, IF WE CAN HAVE THE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I KNOW LAST TIME WE WENT THROUGH ALL THROUGH ONE THROUGH TEN. CORRECT. SO THIS WAY IF YOU CAN DO ONE AT A TIME AND THEN WE'LL ASK THE QUESTIONS AND WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE SECOND ONE.
OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THAT WAS THE PLAN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. SO FROM OUR JUNE 4TH MEETING, WE DID HAVE A FEW ITEMS THAT KIND OF CAME UP A FEW QUESTIONS, SUCH AS WHAT IS AN OVERLAY? WHAT IS PATIO CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL, WHAT IS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. AND WE HOPE THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION WE KIND OF ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT FOCUS AREAS IN THE CORRIDORS. ADDITIONALLY, AS FAR AS THE VISUAL TOOLS FOR COMMUNICATION, STAFF IS STILL LOOKING INTO THOSE AND WE HOPE TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU AT A FUTURE DATE. AND LASTLY, THE SUMMARY OF PUBLIC INPUT IS AVAILABLE IS AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR PROJECT WEBSITE ON W-W-W-WHAT CITY.COM. BUT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON COMPILING THOSE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THEM TO YOU IN A EASILY DIGESTIBLE MANNER ALTOGETHER. SO MOVING FORWARD TO THE FOCUS AREAS, WE DID DISCUSS OUR TEN FOCUS AREAS, AND WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH A SUMMARY OF EACH ONE. SO TO START OFF WITH FOCUS AREA ONE FONDREN ROAD. AS A REMINDER, STAFF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE OVERLAY AS WELL AS A DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY OVERLAY. MISSOURI INTRODUCED THE OVERLAY CONCEPT AND AS A REMINDER, WHAT OVERLAYS ARE. THEY ARE A PLANNING TOOL TO APPLY ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS TO A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA ON TOP OF EXISTING ZONING. AND SO IN THIS AREA, WE INTRODUCED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AREA MIXED USE OVERLAY, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE SMALL SCALE MIXED USE NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WELL AS THE DESIGNATED INTERIOR OVERLAY, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE HIGH
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VISIBILITY, MIXED USE GATEWAYS WITH QUALITY DESIGN. SO A SUMMARY OF THE PUBLIC INPUT FROM FROM PUBLIC INPUT AND COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS INCLUDE TO PROVIDE MORE CERTAINTY FOR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN, AS WELL AS TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS ADEQUATE AND AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA TO BE ABLE TO USE. AS FAR AS STORMWATER DETENTION REQUIREMENTS, MAKING SURE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS MEET OR EXCEED ANY REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO MITIGATE INCREASED RUNOFF INTO NEIGHBORING AREAS FROM ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN, AS WELL AS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND TRANSPARENCY TO INCLUDE RESIDENTS EARLY ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. INCLUDE THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THOSE DECISIONS.THIS CAN INCLUDE DOING A DEVELOPMENT IMPACT REVIEW FOR RESIDENTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO ANY NEW PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED, AS WELL AS PROVIDING A 30 DAY PUBLIC NOTICE PERIOD FOR ZONING AMENDMENT CASES. AND THAT CONCLUDES FONDREN ROAD. DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT OR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? DOES THAT CONCLUDE ONE 101 NUMBER ONE OKAY, SO IF ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE PLACE YOURSELF IN THE QUEUE SO WE CAN.
RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. SORRY FOR THIS I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO ARE THERE ANY PENDING DEVELOPMENT OR HAS ANYONE REACHED OUT IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA. SO WE HAVE HAD SOME INQUIRIES IN THE PAST. THE UNDEVELOPED TRACT OF LAND RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF FONDREN AND I BELIEVE EAST HAMPTON, THAT'S STILL UNDEVELOPED IN THIS AREA. THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF INQUIRED ABOUT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO ACTIVITY TOWARDS ANY SORT OF DEVELOPMENT, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, DO YOU ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OF THE RESIDENTS MAKING ANY REQUESTS FOR CERTAIN ASPECTS FOR A CONCEPT OVER HERE FROM THAT PARTICULAR AREA? YEAH, I'LL TAKE THAT ONE. OKAY. SO I THINK OVER THE COURSE WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL DIFFERENT IDEAS. SOME HAVE THROWN OUT THINGS LIKE GROCERY STORES WE'VE HEARD OF, YOU KNOW, THIS PART OF THE AREA BEING IN PRETTY FAR PROXIMITY TO GROCERY STORE SERVICES. WE'VE HEARD SOME RESIDENTIAL USES THAT MIGHT INTEGRATE BETTER WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, BUT THE INPUT AND THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE LARGELY RECEIVED HAVE BEEN AS A RESULT OF EITHER PUBLIC COMMENTS THROUGH ZONING CASES THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY HAVE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT. THANK YOU. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT COLLABORATING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT'S IN HOUSTON? SINCE WE SHARE THAT ROAD OVER THERE, THEY MAY HAVE SOME DEVELOPERS THAT MAY BE OF SOME INTEREST TO REALLY DO SOMETHING REALLY NICE AND SUITABLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA THAT MAY HAVE NOT TAPPED IN TO OUR DEPARTMENTS. SO THAT COULD BE A CONSIDERATION TO LOOK INTO THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OVER THERE AND SEE IF MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH A VERY CREATIVE CONCEPT THAT WOULD BE PLEASING TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS TO THOSE RESIDENTS, AND KIND OF GET THE FEEDBACK, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SHARE THAT AREA WITH HOUSTON. SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A COLLABORATION OF SOME SORT. THANK YOU MAYOR. THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU. I JUST SO ON THIS, I MEAN, THE PART UP HERE, IT SHOWS THE CURRENT LAND USAGE IS SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ONLY. CORRECT. AND WITH WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH COMMERCIAL AND NEW NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AND THE DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY. SO WHEN YOU SAY DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY, WHAT I SEE THE CIRCLE, BUT THE TWO CIRCLES THAT'S ON THIS DIAGRAM, WELL, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOMETHING DONE TO IT OR IS JUST A DESIGNATED I MEAN, ENTRANCE? YES. AND SO WHAT'S PART OF THIS PROPOSAL IS IDENTIFYING THOSE KEY CORRIDORS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE PRIMARY ACCESS INTO THE CITY TO PROVIDE STANDARDS THAT REFLECT MISSOURI CITY. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN FROM WHATEVER JURISDICTION THAT YOU'VE NOW ENTERED INTO MISSOURI CITY. SO THOSE WOULD HAVE SPECIFIC STANDARDS ON ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THOSE AREAS THAT WOULD REFLECT WHETHER IT'S DESIGN STANDARDS, WHETHER IT'S SIGNAGE STANDARDS, LIGHTING STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC FURNITURE KIND OF STANDARDS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE UNIVERSAL FOR ALL OF THOSE ENTRYWAYS. SO THERE IS A ORDINANCE WITH DESIGN STANDARDS THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED BY A STAFF TEAM TO MAKE THAT PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL. AND SO PART OF THIS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THAT AS PART OF THE POLICY FOR THIS PARTICULAR
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CORRIDOR. SURE. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. SO WE'RE LEAVING THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS IT IS ON THE NEW ON THE PROPOSED EVEN COMMERCIALS ON THERE. HOW MUCH OF A SINGLE FAMILY WE HAVE LAND THAT'S OUT THERE. SO SINGLE FAMILY IS STILL OUR PREDOMINANT LAND USE IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL. SO SINGLE FAMILY IS STILL IN THE HIGH 90S IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE OF OUR HOUSING STOCK. WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE, ALTHOUGH SINGLE FAMILY IS STILL THE UNDERLYING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE WOULD BE THOSE STANDARDS THAT YOU CAN MOVE IT BEYOND JUST SINGLE FAMILY OR JUST COMMERCIAL AND HAVING PROJECTS THAT ARE REALLY INTEGRATED. SO IT COULD STILL BE A SINGLE FAMILY BASE THAT PROVIDES A TRANSITION INTO THOSE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, PROVIDE SEPARATION, BUFFERING, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT MOVING IT BEYOND JUST THAT SINGLE STANDARD, SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, LAYOUT AND SOLELY SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF USE. AND LAST QUESTION, THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE DO NOT WANT THOSE THOSE BIG BUILDINGS WITH TRUCKS THAT'S COMING IN AND OUT. AND I THINK WE WENT TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THAT ONE STREET AND MAKING IT A ROUNDABOUT AND ALL THAT. SO WHEN YOU SAY WE CONTINUE WITH COMMERCIAL ON THOSE, ARE WE STILL SAYING THAT YOU CAN HAVE ON A COMMERCIAL SPACE THOSE TYPE OF WAREHOUSES? NO, NO. SO THOSE WOULD BE CLASSIFIED IN THE LAND USE CHARACTER. THOSE WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. THE CURRENT IS CLASSIFIED AS A BUSINESS PARK.SO THIS WOULD NOT BE THE CATEGORY THAT PROVIDES DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THAT TYPE OF. SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME IN WITH ANOTHER WAREHOUSE CONCEPT, IT WOULD NOT GO THERE. NO, NOT UNDER THIS PROPOSAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY AT BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS. WHAT DO YOU ENVISION ACTUALLY WITH THE DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY? SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A WHOLE SLEW OF THINGS, BUT SIGNAGE AND DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY IS ALSO A CONCEPT THAT WOULD BE BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. SO ANY KIND OF PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, TO INTERJECT PUBLIC BRANDING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAYFINDING SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE INTEGRATED AS PART OF THAT CONCEPT. AND THEN THE OVERLAY ON THE PRIVATE SIDE WOULD ENCOURAGE THOSE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS TO CONNECT AND INTEGRATE WITH THOSE PUBLIC ELEMENTS. SO IF YOU HAVE LIKE IN PARTICULAR FOR FONDREN, YOU HAVE A SERIES OF, YOU KNOW, BUS STOPS THAT ARE JUST A SINGLE BUS STOPS ON FONDREN ROAD. SO THIS PROPOSAL, THAT WHOLE DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY CAN TURN THOSE INTO THE PUBLIC SPACE OF WHERE THOSE BUS STOPS ARE, BUT INTEGRATING THEM INTO THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, ABUT THEM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT YOU HAVE MORE BRANDING, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF MISSOURI CITY, WHAT MISSOURI CITY IS. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION. WELL, MORE SO CONCERN IS ABOUT HOW WHEN IN ACROSS OUR CITY NOW WE HAVE MULTIPLE MONUMENTS AND SIGNAGE AND PLACES THAT ARE DEEMED KIND OF OUR ENTRYWAYS, BUT THEY ALL LOOK DIFFERENT. IS THIS GOING TO BE UNIFORM ACROSS THE BOARD OR I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEREVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S IN DIFFERENT FOCUS AREAS. IS IT IS THE PLAN TO HAVE UNIFORM DESIGNATED ENTRYWAYS OR SIGNAGE OR A LOOK? YES, I CAN HOP IN HERE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A PROPOSAL BY MAYOR PRO TEM RON MARSHALL THAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON IN A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC WORKS, THAT INCLUDES DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THAT INCLUDES LEGAL AND PARKS, THE DESIRE OF THE TEAM AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS TO CREATE ONE STANDARD FOR EACH ENTRYWAY SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ENTERING INTO THE CITY, MAY IT BE THE XERISCAPING WITH THE ROCKS AND SPECIFIC ENTRYWAY MONUMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS. WE HAVE THOSE MONUMENTS AND THOSE DESIGNATIONS AT EACH ENTRYWAY POINT. NOW, WE DO HAVE CERTAIN EXISTING MONUMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AT CERTAIN LOCATIONS. THE THOUGHT IS NOT THAT THOSE WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY REPLACED, OF COURSE, BUT AS THEY'RE TRANSITIONED OUT, THEY WOULD TRANSITION INTO THE NEW. AND I SAY NEW. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR EXISTING MONUMENTS AS WELL TO SEE IF WE CAN UTILIZE THAT INFORMATION AND NOT PAY FOR ADDITIONAL STUDIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT UTILIZE WHAT WE HAVE TO CREATE A STANDARD FOR EACH DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY. SO, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT IN EVERY FOCUS AREA, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE
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WE'RE LOOKING AT DESIGNATED ENTRYWAYS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR IT ALL TO BE UNIFORMED. YES. AND NOT THE NOT THE USES. SO REMEMBER NO, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY, THE CITY MONUMENTS, CITY PARK OR CITY BENCHES, INFRASTRUCTURE, SIDEWALK DECORATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THOSE ELEMENTS TO BE UNIFORM. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, FOR WORKING WITH THE STAFF ON THAT. AS IT RELATES TO THE OVERLAY, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. SO ARE WE SAYING THAT BECAUSE BECAUSE IN ESSENCE, WHEN YOU SAY NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, I'M THINKING THEY'RE BOTH IN THE SAME. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE OVERLAYING THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MULTIFAMILY THERE OR WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT. NO. AND SO PART OF THE OVERLAYS IN THE LAND USE CHARACTERS IS THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES PROVIDING LIKE DESIGN CRITERIA. AND SO IN THIS CASE IT WOULD PROVIDE DESIGN CRITERIA IN TERMS OF DENSITY, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HEIGHT, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, SETBACKS, YOU KNOW, HOW TO LAY OUT THE PROPERTY TO MEET AND ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. SO THIS WOULD STILL BE SINGLE FAMILY. THE OVERLAY WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL. THE UNDERLINING WOULD BE THE PRIMARY. SO ON THAT PORTION THAT'S CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTIAL, CLOSER TO SOUTH CATHEY, PRIMARILY THE FOCUS WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY. AND THEN THE OVERLAY WOULD BE APPLYING SOME SORT OF MIX, WHETHER IT'S OFFICE SPACE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, SMALL RETAIL SPACE OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING NONRESIDENTIAL, NOT INDUSTRIAL AND NOT OFFICE WAREHOUSE INTO THAT MIX. SO ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CARVE OUT WHERE THAT? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED CLOSER TO SOUTH CATHEY, BUT ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A REAL RENDERING OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE THAT WOULD CONCERN ME AS TO JUST APPROVING SOMETHING WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED OR HOW IT WOULD LOOK. YES. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE TOOLS THAT'S THERE. I MENTIONED MAYOR PRO TEM HAD BROUGHT THAT UP DURING THE DISCUSSION ON JUNE 4TH IS REALLY CREATING THOSE VISUALS. SO WE'RE WORKING AS A TEAM TO BE ABLE TO BRING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS INTO A VISUAL FORMAT SO YOU CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SO WITH THE SAME THING, BE APPLICABLE TO COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH OVER, THERE'S AN OVERLAY AT SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE OVERLAY ON THE COMMERCIAL? FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN ASKED, BUT I JUST WANT TO REPEAT WHAT IS THE ACTUAL COMMERCIAL THAT'S DESIGNATED FOR ALL THE RED HERE. SO THE FROM THE LAND USE CHARACTER SIDE, IT'S MORE SITE DEVELOPMENT. SO THE COMMERCIAL AREA SINGLE FAMILY IS SITES THAT ARE MORE GEARED TOWARDS AUTOMOBILES. SO YOU'LL SEE PARKING, YOU'LL SEE PAVING, YOU'LL SEE DRIVEWAYS. YOU'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, GARAGES. SO THE DESIGN CHARACTER IS AS OPPOSED TO LIKE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL THAT HAS MORE GREEN SPACE, OPEN SPACE IN BETWEEN BUILDINGS, LARGER LOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT LAND USE CHARACTER IS GOVERNING. IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL ZONING DESIGNATION, BUT IT'S THE VISION FOR HOW THOSE SITES WOULD BE DEVELOPED.AND THEN THE ZONING DESIGNATION WOULD BE THOSE SPECIFIC USES THAT COULD GO WITHIN THAT DESIGNATION. SO I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO ADD. WELL, TWO THINGS TO ADD. WELL ONE TO ADD AND ONE TO ASK WHERE THE NUMBER ONE HERE HERE IS I KNOW THAT AREA NEEDS A GROCERY STORE OF SOME SORT. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE BEHOOVE US TO, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON POTENTIALLY HAVING SOME SORT OF GROCERY STORE AND OR SIT DOWN FAMILY DINING IN THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW, SPACE, ACREAGE WISE OR SIZE WISE, IF BOTH WOULD FIT IN THAT AREA. BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY WE NEED TO HAVE THAT AS A FOCAL POINT BECAUSE WE DON'T JUST LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE A PARK IN HARRIS COUNTY PORTION. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO IDENTIFY WHERE. AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO LOOK AT HAVING SOMETHING LIKE A GROCERY STORE AND A RESTAURANT BE BE INCLUDED IN THIS AREA, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE COMPANIES YOU MENTIONED. JUST MY SUGGESTION. AND THE QUESTION THAT I HAD IS AND IT'S REALLY APPLICABLE TO ALL THE FOCUS AREAS IS RELATIVE TO WHAT THE WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED FOR. I KNOW THAT WE PUT IT OUT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. NOT EVERYONE RESPONDED TO IT, SO I THINK IT WOULD REALLY BE IMPORTANT FOR EVERY FOCUS AREA THAT WE REALLY FIND OUT WHAT THE AREA, WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. AND I THINK WE GOT TO DELVE A LITTLE DEEPER AND ACTUALLY GOING TO THOSE FOCUS AREAS AND GETTING AS MANY PEOPLE TO ENGAGE SO THAT
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WE CAN GET THEIR FEEDBACK, LIKE, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE HERE? WHAT'S YOUR WISH LIST NOW? NOT THAT WE CAN DELIVER, BUT IT STILL IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ASK AND DO OUR BEST TO DELIVER.I THINK THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING ASKED FOR WOULD BE ASKED FOR. WE COULD DELIVER ON. SUCH AS? I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR RESTAURANT AND GROCERY STORE IN THAT AREA, SO MY COMMENTS. MAYOR THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING MAYOR PRO TEM BROWNE-MARSHALL THANK YOU, MAYOR JENNIFER. THE MAP THAT WE SEE HERE IS THIS WHERE YOU HAVE THE RED AND THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED, IS THIS THE EXISTING ZONING OR IS THIS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THIS TO THIS MAP IS PROPOSED OKAY. AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EXISTING IS THE OVERLAY WOULD COME OFF. THAT TURNED MY MICROPHONE OFF I APOLOGIZE. OH OKAY. NO THIS IS THE MAP ON THE SCREEN IS THE PROPOSED OKAY. AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EXISTING AND PROPOSED IS THE OVERLAYS. SO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL EXISTS TODAY. AND THEN THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS PROTECTIONS THROUGH THE OVERLAYS ALONG WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE NEW. SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE STRIPED BOX AS A DESCRIPTION, IF YOU WILL. AND THEN I LOOK AT THE RED WITH THE STRIPED BOX, ARE YOU SAYING THAT INSIDE OF THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE WOULD GO RIGHT. AND IT WOULD BE AN OVERLAY. SO THE IDEA, THE CONCEPT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, STILL COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA THAT'S CLOSER TO FONDREN BECAUSE IT HAS STREET FRONTAGE AND VISIBILITY THAT THE PRIMARY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THERE WOULD BE NONRESIDENTIAL FOCUSED. HOWEVER, THE OVERLAY WOULD THEN HAVE PARAMETERS THAT TO ALLOW FOR MIXED USE. SO THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU COULD SEE LIKE THE TWO STORY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONCEPT WITH LIKE POSSIBLY A GROCERY STORE, YOU KNOW, SOME RETAIL COMPONENT ON THE BOTTOM, OFFICE COMPONENT ON THE BOTTOM. BUT YOU HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S TOWNHOMES OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT IN PROXIMITY TO IT. THANK YOU. IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO DRILL DOWN CLOSER TO SEE WHERE OUR DOLLARS ARE LEAVING OUR CITY IN TERMS OF WHERE OUR CITIZENS ARE TAKING DOLLARS TO GO ELSEWHERE. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE US JUST DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THIS AREA TO SEE, TO BE ABLE TO CONFIRM, JUST IN CASE WE CAN'T GET THE CITIZENS TO RESPOND TO THE SURVEYS, THOUGH, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO WE HAVE THE DATA IN HOUSE. SO IF THE DATA IS DEFINITELY DRIVING THAT GROCERY SHOULD BE HERE, I DEFINITELY WOULD AGREE AND SUPPORT THAT ITEM. ONE WE SHOULD HEAVILY, HEAVILY LOOK HERE. BE A COOL THING TO PULL UP OVER HERE AND SEE A TWO STORY HEB LIKE THEY HAVE IN MARYLAND. YEAH, WE CAN DREAM, I GET IT. LASTLY. E JOYCE, I WANTED TO THANK YOU PUBLICLY, YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND THE ENTIRE STAFF FOR WORKING THROUGH THE DESIGNATED ENTRY WAY ORDINANCE. I THOUGHT WHEN I ASKED FOR THIS THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE JUST A QUICK ORDINANCE, BUT AFTER REALIZING THIS WAS WAY MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF LEGAL HOOPS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, I'M REALLY PLEASED AND HAPPY TO SEE IT FALL OUT THROUGHOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO LET'S JUST KIND OF KEEP WORKING THROUGH IT. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES IN OUR CITY WHERE WE DON'T REALIZE I'M STILL IN MISSOURI CITY, BUT MAYBE I'M IN HOUSTON. SO TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPECIFICALLY SAY, OH, I KNOW FOR SURE I'M IN MISSOURI CITY, AND WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH ART, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH DECORATIVE SIGNS. WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS THAT DEFINITIVELY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THIS HARD CORNER, WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR A PARTNERSHIP TO WORK WITH THE CITY, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT THESE ARE THE FACTORS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO SEE. SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE STAFF AND TAKING THE TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZE AND COUNCILMEMBER CLAUSEN. YES. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, FOR BRINGING THAT INITIATIVE FOR THE STANDARD CITY MONUMENTS. MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW WE'VE HAD LOW ENGAGEMENT FOR THE SURVEYS.
HAVE WE GONE TO THE HOA'S AND SENT THE SURVEYS TO THE HOA'S SO THAT THEY CAN SEND THEM DIRECTLY OUT TO THEIR RESIDENTS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS? SO YES, WE DID. WHEN THE SURVEY WAS ONLINE, IT WAS PUSHED OUT TO ALL OF THE HOA'S FOR ASSISTANCE, TO PUSH IT OUT TO RESIDENTS, IN ADDITION TO KIND OF THE FOCUS GROUPS AS WELL. WHEN WAS THE LAST? WHEN WAS THAT? THAT WAS BACK LAST FALL. SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AROUND AUGUST. SEPTEMBER. OKAY. HAVE WE DONE THAT RECENTLY? WITHIN THE LAST TWO MONTHS? NO, NO. AND WHAT OUR INTENT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS, WE DO
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INTEND TO DO A SECOND QUESTIONNAIRE AND THEN ALSO A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE. AND THEN WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WAYS THAT WE CAN KIND OF TARGET SOME OF THESE FOCUS AREAS AS WELL. SO CAN YOU. CITY MANAGER I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT WAY TO DRILL DOWN BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT PASS BY AND SEE OUR MARQUEE. THEY MAY NOT SEE OUR WEBSITE, BUT MOST OF THE TIME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE READING THEIR HOA NEWSLETTER AND THEY'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO THEIR HOA PRESIDENT AND THEIR NEIGHBORS. SO IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE MAXIMIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I JUST SIGNED UP JUST TO SAY JENNIFER, DID YOU DID I HEAR YOU SAY AUTO MECHANIC STORES? NO, I DON'T ORIENT IT. WHAT IS IT? I DON'T ORIENT IT.IT'S A CHARACTER DISTRICT NOT USES. ALL RIGHT. SO CHARACTER DISTRICT. ALL RIGHT. I DO THAT.
ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS FROM CITY MANAGER I GUESS MY QUESTION IS. SO EVERYBODY CHIMED IN ON ONE.
SO NOW STAFF WILL GO BACK AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SHARED AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO A JOINT MEETING WITH PNC. ACTUALLY WE'LL TAKE IT TO PNC FIRST. OKAY. BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME PNC IS SEEING THIS. AND THEN ONCE PNC SEES IT, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE A TOWN HALL OR GETTING MORE COMMUNITY INPUT INTO THE PROCESS. AND THEN AFTER THAT WOULD BE THE JOINT MEETING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO FOCUS AREA TWO SOUTH GESSNER ROAD. SO AGAIN AS A REFRESHER, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR SOUTH GESSNER ROAD WAS MOSTLY TO KEEP CURRENT WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE MAP. SOME OF THE NEW ADDITIONS INCLUDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE OVERLAY AS WELL AS THE DESIGNATED ENTRY WAY OVERLAY FOR THIS AREA. THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE OVERLAY IS BEING PROPOSED ONLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL ALONG THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH GESSNER AND THE BELTWAY, AND THEN FOR THE DESIGNATED ENTRY OVERLAYS. THOSE ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR THE INTERSECTIONS AT THE BELTWAY AND ALSO AT HIGHWAY 90. SO A SUMMARY OF THE PUBLIC INPUT. AND FROM THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD A FEW WEEKS AGO, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IN THIS AREA. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE CITY IS ACTIVELY WORKING WITH TXDOT AND UNION PACIFIC TO ASSESS THE SAFETY IN THIS AREA AND IMPROVE ANY SAFETY THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS MAY INCLUDE UPGRADES TO CROSSINGS, SIGNAL TIMINGS AND COMMUNICATION PROTOCOLS, ADDITIONAL INPUT INCLUDED THAT RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY, COMPATIBILITY, SAFETY, NOISE, TRUCK TRAFFIC AND THEIR PROPERTY VALUES, AND SO WITH ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, WE DO HAVE A CHANCE TO REVISIT HOW THESE DIFFERENT USES CAN EXIST MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL USES IN THIS AREA. SO THERE ARE NOT ALL INDUSTRIAL USES ARE THE SAME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LIKE SMALL SCALE MANUFACTURING AND LOGISTICS CAN SOMETIMES BE MADE COMPATIBLE WITH NEARBY USES THROUGH BETTER SITE DESIGN, NOISE CONTROLS AND RESTRICTED HOURS. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE HEAVIER INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSING USES MAY REQUIRE STRONGER SEPARATION AND MIGHT NEED TO BE REDIRECTED TO MORE APPROPRIATE AREAS, AND SO WE CAN STILL USE TOOLS LIKE LANDSCAPING, BERMS, FENCING, SETBACKS, TRAFFIC ROUTING TO REDUCE ANY IMPACTS FROM THESE INDUSTRIAL SITES AS WELL, AND CAN ALSO PROVIDE DESIGN STANDARDS AND DO SOME PERFORMANCE BASED ZONING, WHICH CAN HELP ENSURE THAT ANY NEW PROJECTS FIT BETTER WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS. AND THAT CONCLUDES SOUTH GESSNER ROAD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I SIGNED UP JUST TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, JENNIFER. SO THE EXISTING TODAY WITHOUT US ADOPTING THIS NEW PLAN, YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. YOU HAD COMMERCIAL, YOU HAD PARKS AND REC AND THEN YOU HAD BUSINESS PARK. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AREA, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN SORT OF A BUSINESS PARK MOSTLY.
SO WHEN WE HAD A PARKS AND REC, DO WE HAVE ANY PARKS AND REC THAT'S OUT THERE? NO. AND I THINK IT WAS A MISCLASSIFICATION. THE PARKS AND RECS WAS ACTUALLY ON THAT WILLOW WATER HOLE THAT'S IN THAT BLUE AREA. AND SO NOTHING'S CHANGING. NOTHING IS PROJECTED TO CHANGE.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NEEDED. SO THIS WOULD JUST BE CODING IT ACCORDING TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY
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IS. SURE. SO AND THEN IT ALSO WAS PUT OUT THERE AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. RIGHT.RIGHT. AND THAT THAT WAS JUST IT. SO ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS CLOSER TO THE BELTWAY. THIS DOES NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THOSE LAND USE CODES, BUT JUST THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT IS ADJACENT TO THEM. BUT THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, MEANINGFUL CHANGE THERE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT FROM 90. GOING GESSNER NORTH, RIGHT. TO ME IT LOOKED ALL LIKE THE BUSINESS PARK. RIGHT. YOU HAVE ALL THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE. SO ON THE NEW PROPOSED, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUSINESS PARK AND EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT. SO IN SOME OF THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC, THERE WAS STILL CONFUSION BECAUSE WE HAVE A ZONING DISTRICT CALLED BUSINESS PARK. AND THEN WE HAD THIS LAND USE CATEGORY CALLED BUSINESS PARK. AND SO THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION IN TERMS OF WHAT THE INTENT AND THE PURPOSE WAS. SO THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT THE OFFICE WAREHOUSES, THOSE AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THOSE MANUFACTURERS OR PRODUCERS THAT THEY'RE ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY ASSETS IS BRINGING JOBS, YOU KNOW, AND EMPLOYMENT TO THE CITY. OKAY. AND WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES? COMMUNITY FACILITIES ARE THOSE PUBLIC AND SEMIPUBLIC USES. SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE CITY OWNED LAND, STATE OWNED LAND, COUNTY. AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE IN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, PARK FACILITIES THAT MIGHT BE PUBLICLY OWNED AND PARK FACILITIES THAT MIGHT BE SEMIPUBLIC, MEANING A PUBLIC ENTITY DOESN'T OWN IT, BUT IT'S RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE SO THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME THAT IF CITY'S LOOKING TO EXPAND, THAT WE CAN WE CAN EXPAND TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA. IS THAT WHAT THE MAYOR, IF I MAY CLARIFY, THAT PLACE WHERE IT IS SHOWN IS A DETENTION POND. SO IT CAN BE USED AS A MULTI-USE FACILITY. OKAY. AND I ALSO SEE THE DESIGNATED ENTRY WAY AS NEW. RIGHT. SO, SO HOW MANY YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ONE ON 1092. YOU HAVE ON SOUTH GESSNER. RIGHT. WHEN YOU GO UP NORTH TOWARDS 90, THEN YOU HAVE READER SIGNS. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT CONSISTENT. WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE PLANNING TO ONLY CONSISTENCY THAT I CAN SEE IS THE STREET SIGNS, THE RED AND WHITE AND BLUE. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS KIND OF ALL OVER. SO AND WHEN WE SAY DESIGNATED ENTRYWAY IS OUR PLAN TO PUT SOME SORT OF A ENTRYWAY SIGNAGE OR SOMETHING AT EVERY THESE ENTRYWAY AREAS, WE'VE IDENTIFIED EIGHT LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING MAJOR ENTRYWAYS, MAJOR ENTRYWAYS TO THE CITY. CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY, SO I GUESS THE NEW PROPOSED LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THAT AREA, THAT THIS IS WHERE WE HEAR A LOT FROM THOSE AREAS THAT THEY DON'T WANT WAREHOUSES AND THEY DON'T WANT THESE BIG INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, AND THEY WANT MORE COMMERCIAL MIXED USE USAGE. SO HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT OR HAVE THE COMMITTEE OR THE CONSULTANT LOOK, LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT THEY COULD. WHAT'S THE WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THIS AREA WITH THE WAY THAT IT IS TODAY. SO THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE LARGELY THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THAT, THAT EMPLOYMENT BASED INDUSTRY, BECAUSE OF THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE BELTWAY, BECAUSE OF THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE RAIL, PROXIMITY, YOU KNOW, REGIONALLY, THOSE AREAS RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO KEEP THOSE AREAS FOR THAT EMPLOYMENT BASED PURPOSE. THERE CAN BE, LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDUSTRIAL. AND SO RIGHT NOW THE CITY HAS ONE BROAD INDUSTRIAL ZONING CATEGORY. SO THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BREAK THAT UP SO THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRY THAT'S MORE COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL THAT MIGHT BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY. SO WHEN YOU SAY EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT, ISN'T IT ALMOST THE OTHER WAY OF SAYING SAME THING AS BUSINESS PARK? IT COULD BE. SO THEN THEN WHEN WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT AND THEN WHEN THERE'S A BUSINESS PARK, THESE WAREHOUSES DO POP UP BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD COME INTO IT. SO I'M REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME REALIZING, I KNOW SUGARLAND HAS A BUSINESS PARK DAIRY ASHFORD, AND IT GOES FURTHER UP NORTH. BUT WHEN WE SAY BUSINESS PARK, THEN WE SAY EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT. I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET A HANDLE OF BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST AS IF WE'RE TELLING THEM WE'RE CHANGING THE BUSINESS PARK DESIGNATION TO EMPLOYMENT
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DISTRICT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRODUCT, TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE SAME. YEAH. AND IT'S REALLY JUST A WAY TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE VISION THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE AREA AND THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION TOOL SO THAT THOSE PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, AREN'T CONFUSED. AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE ATTEMPT HERE. OKAY. SO ARE WE ALSO SAYING THAT CITY MANAGER, SINCE WE HAVE WAREHOUSES THERE ALREADY. ARE WE BASICALLY SAYING THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO COME NEXT TO A WAREHOUSE, RIGHT. AND SO WE'RE KEEPING ALL OF THAT UNDER AN EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT AS A BUSINESS PARK. IS THAT IS THAT WHAT WE'RE REALLY SAYING? THAT'S FOR THE BULK, BECAUSE THE BULK OF THAT PURPLE AREA IS ALREADY DEVELOPED. THERE'S VERY FEW PARCELS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED AT THIS POINT. AND I THINK THE FOCUS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE IS THOSE OPPORTUNITIES YOU HAVE WITH UNDEVELOPED. AND THEN POSSIBLY AS THOSE UNDEVELOPED TRACTS REDEVELOP IN THE FUTURE. AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S WHY THE SINGLE FAMILY CAME OFF RIGHT, RIGHT FROM THAT, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ALREADY MADE UP. IF YOU IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, IT'S ALL WAREHOUSES AND NO SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S GOING TO COME UP THERE ANYWAY. ALL RIGHT.THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE CF THE WHAT POTENTIALLY I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS AS OUR PROPOSED LAND DESIGNATION AND THIS AREA AS WELL AS, I'M ASSUMING, UP HERE TOWARDS THE SAM HOUSTON PARKWAY, WHAT ARE WE? AND I THINK A LITTLE SLIVER HERE. WHAT WHAT ARE WE PROPOSING? WHAT COULD BE THERE.
YEAH. BECAUSE WHAT COULD ACTUALLY BE THERE THOSE AND AS SHE ALLUDED TO, THE LARGER BLUE AREA IS THAT WILLOW WATERHOLE DRAINAGE FACILITY. SO THERE'S NO PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OR PROPOSED CHANGES TO THAT BECAUSE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS STILL NEEDED TO SUPPORT WHAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AND WHAT MIGHT BE DEVELOPED. AND THEN SOME OF THOSE SMALLER SLIVERS, BECAUSE THE ONE AT THE BELTWAY, THAT SMALL SLIVER THERE, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S PART OF DETENTION FOR ONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS ON THAT SIDE. SO RIGHT THERE WHERE THE LARGE THE LARGER ONE, BLUE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE. IT'S DRAINAGE. IT'S A FULL DRAINAGE FACILITY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO WHY ARE WE SO WE'RE JUST CHANGING IT TO THAT BECAUSE OF THAT REASON, THAT PURPOSE. OKAY. GOTCHA. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS FROM TEXAS PARKWAY ON 90, GOING TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THAT, THAT BUSINESS PARK, I KNOW WHAT STAFFORD HAS DONE ON THEIR FRONTAGE. AND I THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR ON OUR FRONTAGE ROAD. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULDN'T CONSIDER THAT THE ISLAND, THE STAFFORD ISLANDS, YES, I'M TALKING ABOUT AS SOON AS YOU IF YOU LEAVE OUT HERE AND YOU GO TO 90 FROM TEXAS PARKWAY FROM HERE, YOU MAKE THAT RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF FRONTAGE THERE.
THERE'S SOME THINGS, WAREHOUSES AND STUFF BUILT OUT IN THE BACK. I THINK THE OLAJUWON PROPERTY ETC. IS OVER THERE, BUT I STILL FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO FROM A FRONTAGE STANDPOINT TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT STAFFORD HAS DONE ON THEIR FRONTAGE. IF YOU GO DOWN 90, IF I MAY CHIME IN ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT'S VERY LIKELY THE RIGHT OF WAY OF TEX DOT AND OR UNION PACIFIC. SO YOU WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH THOSE ENTITIES TO DO ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO THERE. I'M SURE STAFFORD WAS HAD THE SAME CHALLENGE, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST THINK THAT FOR ME, I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOMETHING BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT, PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A PLACE TO EAT AND CONGREGATE, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO GOING OUTSIDE BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO EITHER GO OUTSIDE OF MISSOURI CITY TO DO THAT OR SOME OF THESE COMPANIES OR ENTITIES, THESE BUSINESS PARKS AND WHATNOT, HAVE THEIR OWN IN-HOUSE BREAK ROOMS AND CAFETERIAS. BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. WHILE WE STILL HAVE SOME FRONTAGE LEFT FOR US TO, TO STRONGLY CONSIDER THAT SAME WAY STAFFORD DID. I'M SURE THEY HAD THE SAME CHALLENGE. THAT'S MY COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING ON TO FOCUS AREA THREE TEXAS PARKWAY. SO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS AREA AS FAR AS LAND USE THIS IS WHERE WE INTRODUCED THE GATEWAY MIXED USE OVERLAY TO BE PLACED ALONG THE ENTIRETY OF TEXAS PARKWAY. AND SO THIS OVERLAY WAS MEANT TO PROVIDE HIGH INTENSITY URBAN DEVELOPMENT AT CITY ENTRANCES. AND SO A SUMMARY OF THE PUBLIC INPUT AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD LAST TIME WAS FOR THIS AREA WAS TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE LONG TERM VISION FOR THIS AREA. THE LAND USE CHARACTER DISTRICTS SHOULD DEFINE THE
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VISION FOR THE AREA AND TO PROVIDE WHAT MAKES THE AREA REALLY UNIQUE IN THE CITY. AND WHAT'S THE STORY THAT THE CITY WANTS TO TELL THROUGH THE LAYOUT, DESIGN AND THE USES IN THIS AREA, AND ALSO THAT A STRONG VISION CREATES A FILTER FOR EVALUATING ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS. AND SO IF IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE IDENTITY, THEN WE KNOW IT'S NOT A FIT. AND THAT CONCLUDES FOCUS AREA THREE. RECOGNIZING MAYOR PRO TEM RAMOS. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED GATEWAY MIXED USE. AS FAR AS HOW IT WOULD BE APPLIED ALONG TEXAS PARKWAY? YEAH. SHOW ME SOMETHING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE POSSIBLY. SO AN IDEA FOR A GATEWAY MIXED USE ALONG TEXAS PARKWAY COULD BE ALONG THE AREAS SUCH AS WHERE IT INTERSECTS 90, DOING A HIGH INTENSITY URBAN DEVELOPMENT. SO REALLY WHAT IT'S MEANT TO DO IS TAKE WHATEVER THE EXISTING ZONING IS AND ALLOW FOR SOMETHING WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER INTENSITY TO COME INTO THAT AREA. SO IF THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL, THE GATEWAY MIXED USE WOULD ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER INTENSITY TO COME IN THERE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANTED TO DO LIKE A CONVENTION CENTER OR LIKE A HOTEL, THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE GATEWAY MIXED USE COULD BE APPLICABLE. VERY WELL, THANK YOU. SO. SO I GUESS I DO HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ON THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR, IT COMES UP ALL THE TIME AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS GONE INTO IT AND SPENT SOME MONEY INTO BEAUTIFICATIONS AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOT RESURFACING AND SOME FACADE AND ALL THAT. SO AND I CAN SEE THAT WE'RE TAKING OFF THE SUBURBAN, RESIDENTIAL, SUBURBAN, COMMERCIAL AND COMMUNITY FACILITY. I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S THE THAT'S HERE. AND THEN THE PARK BUILDING NEXT DOOR THAT'S NOW. AND THE PARK AND RECREATION IS, IS THAT BUILDING. SO WHEN YOU SAY HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, ARE YOU THINKING OF MULTIFAMILY? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER SPACE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO MORE SO HIGHER INTENSITY. AND SO I THINK WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS, IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT LIST OF THE CURRENT, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLEAR VISION. AND SO WE'VE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED. BUT THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT THEN PLAY INTO THE ZONING CATEGORIES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND SO WHAT THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IS TO ESTABLISH WHAT IS THE TEXAS PARKWAY CORRIDOR, WHAT IS THAT VISION? AND THEN THE LAND USES OR THE ZONING IMPLEMENTATION WOULD SUPPORT THAT. SO IT NOT NECESSARILY HIGH DENSITY IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE IN PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT MIGHT BE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE COMPATIBLE WITH THAT. SO I GUESS I WOULD ASK YOU THE QUESTION BACK, WHAT IS THE VISION. SO AND THAT'S THAT'S THE QUESTION. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS GATEWAY BECAUSE WE THINK THAT THAT IS A TERM FOR THIS CORRIDOR. AND THEN FOR THE OTHER TWO THAT WE'VE PROPOSED IT FOR IS THESE ARE AREAS OF IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY. THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT ROADWAYS, TRAVEL WAYS WITHIN THE CITY THAT BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH. AND SO THIS DESIGNATION IS MEANT TO CAPTURE, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AREA AND KIND OF ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE AREAS.SO WE'VE HEARD DIFFERENT TERMS THROWN OUT. AND SO WE KIND OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS GATEWAY BECAUSE WE THINK THAT THAT'S ALL INCLUSIVE. BUT IF THERE ARE OTHER WAYS, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, WHAT TEXAS PARKWAY OR WHAT ANY OF THOSE PRIMARY CORRIDORS MEAN, THEN THAT'S WHAT THE INPUT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN YOU SAY THAT'S WHY WE PROPOSE IN GATEWAY. WHO'S WE, THE STAFF TEAM. WHAT WAS THE CONSULTANTS FEEDBACK SAYING. IT WAS A GATEWAY. SO THEY LOOKED AT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE AND THEY BASICALLY SAID USE IT FROM ALL THE WAY FROM THE CITY LIMITS. WELL THEN TO THE BOUNDARY. YEAH. THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CORRIDOR WERE ESTABLISHED IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT.
AND SO THE TEXAS PARKWAY CORRIDOR, IF YOU RECALL, WAS IN THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND SO THE BOUNDARIES OF IT WEREN'T MODIFIED OTHER THAN THE AREA ALONG 90 TO REALLY CAPTURE
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SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES YOU STILL HAVE, ALONG 90 WITH UNDEVELOPED LAND. OKAY. I'LL COME BACK TO IT. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE TEXAS PARKWAY CARTWRIGHT AREA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW IF GATEWAY MIXED USE IDENTIFIES IT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE ALL OVER THE CORRIDOR, BUT THE TEXAS PARKWAY. BUT WHAT I'M WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CONSIDER IS OF COURSE, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DOWNTOWN MISSOURI CITY, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO VIEW A COUPLE OF THINGS. I MEAN, I KNOW SUGARLAND IS A IS AN EXAMPLE WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THEIR TOWN CENTER, BUT THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT I THINK WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THE CORRIDOR, ONE OF THEM BEING REGENT SQUARE, WHICH IS IN MONTROSE THAT ADDRESSES 3515 WEST DALLAS. THEY HAVE VARIOUS THEY HAVE A MIX OF RESTAURANTS. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE FAMILY DINING. THEY ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER TYPES OF FUN, ENERGETIC THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS ATTEND. IT'S MULTIFAMILY ALSO IN LOFTS, AND IT'S A VERY, VERY NICE DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE. AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THE CORRIDOR, ESPECIALLY WITH IT US NEEDING TO ATTRACT YOUNGER FAMILIES, YOUNGER PROFESSIONALS TO THE CITY BECAUSE WE'RE AGING AS A CITY AND WE NEED TO BRING NEW BLOOD, NEW TENANTS AND PEOPLE IN RESIDENTS TO THE CITY. THE OTHER ONE IS THE TOWN AND COUNTRY CITY CENTER. THEY ALSO HAVE SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE THAT'S OFF OF THE BELTWAY AND I-10. THEY HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO KIND OF A SUGAR LAND TOWN CENTER FIELD, BUT IT'S HEAVILY I MEAN, IF YOU GO DOWN THERE ANY DAY, PARTICULARLY ON THE WEEKENDS, YOU'LL SEE FAMILIES THERE BRINGING THEIR CHILDREN. THEY HAVE LIKE A LITTLE SMALL GREEN SPACE. THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART OF, OF THE TOWN CENTER, CITY CENTER THERE. SO I THINK THAT THAT ALSO HAS RESTAURANTS, MULTI-FAMILY LOFTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT WE REALLY KIND OF WANT TO CONSIDER MOVING IN THAT TYPE OF DIRECTION WHEN IT COMES TO ENHANCING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH ON THE CORRIDOR, BECAUSE IT IS STILL A MAJOR ENTRYWAY INTO OUR CITY. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY REVIVE THE AREA AND GIVE US A DIFFERENT LOOK. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT, JENNIFER, I HAVE JUST A FEW MORE, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVER SINCE H-E-B AND KROGER AND ALL THOSE BIG SHOPPING CENTERS THAT WE USED TO HAVE HERE EVER SINCE IT'S MOVED UP THE TEXAS PARKWAY HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE, RIGHT? REGARDLESS OF WHO THE STAFF IS OR WHO COUNCIL IS, IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE. SO I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING SOME STRONG DESIGNATION WITH WHAT WE HAVE. AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE SAY GATEWAY MIXED USE, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. UNLESS YOU CAN TELL ME, I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM ASKED THAT QUESTION, WHAT IS THAT? RIGHT. SO TODAY IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, YOU GOT VARIETY. I MEAN, YOU HAVE SOME FAST FOOD. YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A WEST FARGO BANK, THEN YOU HAVE COLLEGE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, THEN YOU HAVE A CITY FACILITY. WE'RE TRYING TO PUT ANOTHER BUILDING BACK THERE ACROSS THE STREET. AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD IMPROVE THAT LOOK. BUT I GUESS I WAS KIND OF WANTING TO HEAR FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS A DIRECTOR OF THAT DEPARTMENT AND BEEN IN THAT PLANNING AND ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR SO LONG, AND THEN ALSO HAVING THIS CONSULTANT JUST MAKE JUST CLEAR UP WHAT IS GATEWAY MIXED USE THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT IS THERE. ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT'S THERE TODAY. YEAH. NO, CERTAINLY. AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE HOW I SEE IT WOULD BE WITH THE GATEWAY MIXED USE. YOU SIT YOU ESTABLISH DESIGN CRITERIA. SO RIGHT NOW AGAIN YOU HAVE THIS HODGEPODGE AND THE DESIGN CRITERIA IS INTERPRETED OR ENFORCED THROUGH ZONING DISTRICTS THAT AREN'T, YOU KNOW, UNIFORM. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT GIVES YOU THAT ABILITY. SO YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION ON STRIP CENTERS AND, YOU KNOW, SHOPPING CENTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS TYPE OF DISTRICT, YOU CAN SET STANDARDS THAT REQUIRE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE LAND BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE OR[00:55:03]
THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF USE IS NOT PERMITTED, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THIS AREA TO HELP SUPPORT AND RECRUIT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE ANCHOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEN CAN SPIN OFF, YOU KNOW, INTO OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT OF LIKE THE TOWN CENTERS IS, IS REALLY KIND OF IDENTIFYING WHERE ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS ARE THE MOST OPPORTUNE LOCATIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT IN THIS DISTRICT YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF SPELLED OUT.SO THE ZONING DISTRICTS WILL SUPPORT THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS TO COME THROUGH.
AND YOU DON'T JUST HAVE A GENERIC, YOU KNOW, LC3, YOU KNOW, ZONING DISTRICT THAT HAS STANDARDS THAT YOU CAN BUILD THE SAME THING ON HIGHWAY SIX THAT YOU CAN BUILD HERE OR, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER IN THE CITY THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE VISION THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. OKAY. SO LET ME ASK ANOTHER WAY. WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, TWO LIQUOR STORES, TWO VAPE SHOPS. ALL THIS. HOW DOES THAT RESTRICT FROM HAVING BEING PART OF THE GATEWAY MIXED USE. AND I KNOW YOU HAVE COMMERCIALS ON THERE TOO, RIGHT. SO I'VE SEEN IT IN CHICAGO WHERE THEY HAD NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WAS JUST KIND OF FALLING APART. AND THEN NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU GOT 750,000 $900,000 CONDOS THAT ARE IN THERE AND PEOPLE ARE JUST BUYING IT UP. I MEAN, AND TODAY IS PROBABLY 1.6 MILLION. SO WHAT IS THE LONG TERM VISION OF THE TEXAS PARKWAY IS? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO BRING THE H-E-B BACK. IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE DON'T CONTROL THAT. WE DON'T CONTROL WALMART. WE DON'T CONTROL ANY OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, BIG FRANCHISES. BUT WITHIN WHAT WE CAN CONTROL IS WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE I KNOW I SAW SOMETHING THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE OR SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING OPENED. NOW, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST LIQUOR STORES OR VAPE SHOPS, BUT IF THOSE ARE THE HOT SPOTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUT IN THERE, THEN WHAT'S THE VISION? WELL, IF I MAY. YEAH, THE VISION IS WHAT'S TRYING TO PRESENT THE DESIRE. WHAT I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE VISION. AND THAT'S WHERE THE REQUIREMENTS COME IN. TO BE ABLE TO SPECIFICALLY POINT THOSE, WHATEVER THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE, FOR THE THINGS WE WANT TO SEE, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE. SO UNDER GATEWAY MIXED USE, RIGHT.
IF SOMEONE'S COMING IN WITH A WITH A GAS STATION OR ANOTHER VAPE SHOP, WE CAN CONTROL THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD BE WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE. THE GATEWAY JUST ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE SOME UNIFORMITY IN TERMS OF HOW YOU REPRESENT THAT FOR THAT CORRIDOR. BUT LET'S NOT GET LOCKED INTO GATEWAY IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT DOWNTOWN, SOMETHING ELSE, THAT'S OKAY. IT'S JUST TO SHOW THAT THIS CORRIDOR, CORRIDOR, WE WANT IT TO BE UNIFORM. WE WANT IT TO BE PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING ALL THE HODGEPODGE, EVEN THOUGH THAT HODGEPODGE WILL STILL EXIST. ANYTHING NEW YOU COULD PUT IN REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S IMPLEMENTED THE WAY WE WANT TO SEE IT. PERFECT, I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU FOR THAT. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER O'DEKIRK. THANK YOU. WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT MIXED USE, AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT BRINGING RESIDENTS. AND WITH THE MIXED USE WE'RE PROVIDING RETAIL TO SUPPORT THESE RESIDENTS. BUT WE'VE GOT TONS OF RETAIL ALL OVER THE CITY, RETAIL SPACE THAT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED. AND WE'VE GOT THOSE RESIDENTS AROUND AND THEY'RE NOT COMING. SO HOW DOES THIS GUARANTEE THAT THESE SPOTS FILL UP? AND WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS DAYTIME POPULATION. WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH TEXAS PARKWAY TO GET DAYTIME POPULATION? BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE ALL THESE RESIDENTS AND THEY FLEE THE AREA JUST LIKE THEY DO NOW, AND IT DOESN'T SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING IN THIS PLAN, BRINGING DAYTIME POPULATION, NOT JUST BUILDING MORE HOMES FOR RESIDENTS TO RUN WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING. WE NEED TO SEE SOMEWHERE IN THIS PLAN THAT WE ARE BRINGING SOME SORT OF BUSINESSES THAT SUPPORT THE WORKFORCE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT JUST THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDINGS RUNNING THE RESTAURANTS. WE WANT THEM BRINGING GOOD JOBS. WE WANT THEM TO HAVE GOOD JOBS IN OUR CITY SO THAT THEY STAY HERE AND SPEND GOOD MONEY, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, RETAIL WORKER MONEY, THOUGH. WE NEED THOSE PEOPLE. WE LOVE THOSE PEOPLE. WE WANT GOOD JOBS AND HIGH QUALITY FOLKS MOVING TO THESE AREAS SO THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT THE AREA. WHAT ARE WE HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THIS IN ALL OF THIS? YEAH. AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, IS WE TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, IS REALLY LEANING INTO SOME OF THOSE OTHER
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INDUSTRIES THAT MAY NOT BE PRESENT OR TRYING TO ESTABLISH A PRESENCE HERE. SO ONE OF THE AREAS WE MENTIONED WAS YOUTH SPORTS. WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS, POPULATIONS THAT CURRENTLY USE, YOU KNOW, DO TOURNAMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, HIGH TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HIGH DOLLAR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF OPERATIONS THAT HAVE CONTINUOUSLY REACHED OUT WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, FEW YEARS ABOUT SPACE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING FAR OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR CITY RESIDENTS THAT ARE TRAVELING FAR OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES EVERY WEEKEND. YOU KNOW, EVERY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CORRIDOR FOR THESE LARGE TOURNAMENT EVENTS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND THOSE SPACES HERE. SO THOSE COULD BE OPPORTUNITIES TO OFFSET WITH SOME OF THOSE EMPLOYMENT BASES TO HELP SUPPORT AND BUILD THOSE DAYTIME POPULATION OR SOME PEAK HOUR POPULATION TO THEN HELP SUPPORT SOME OF OUR RETAIL RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE OTHER THING TO MENTION, TOO, IS PARTICULARLY THOSE HIGH IMPACT AREAS ALONG HIGHWAY 90 AND TEXAS PARKWAY IS BEING ABLE TO FULLY CONNECT THOSE AREAS. SO THAT DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT CORRIDOR CAN BENEFIT FROM THE POPULATION OR THE EMPLOYMENT BASE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT CORRIDOR. SO IN PARTICULAR, THOSE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND NEAR SOUTH CRAVENS, YOU KNOW, AND HIGHWAY SIX THAT DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING AT BUILDING TODAY, MAKING CONNECTIONS WITH THAT AREA BACK TO TEXAS PARKWAY. SO YOU'RE NOT LOSING THAT POPULATION TO FOOD EATERIES AND STAFFORD OR, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS OR FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, IN OUR ADJACENT COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS SEND THEM THAT WAY. AND IT'S MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO GO INTO THOSE OTHER CITIES THAN TO COME BACK ONTO TEXAS PARKWAY OR AREAS IN MISSOURI CITY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST. AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, ECHO WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, USING THE DATA IN TERMS OF THAT LEAKAGE, BECAUSE THOSE ALSO CAN IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE INDUSTRIES THAT WE MAY NOT BE FULLY TAPPING INTO THAT CAN HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THOSE GAPS. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING MAYOR PRO TEM RAMOS, THANK YOU. SO, JENNIFER, JUST MAYBE WE CAN WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND IT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE AND PEEPING AT OTHER CITIES. GATEWAY MIXED USES ORDINANCES. IT APPEARS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT YOU THAT WE ALLOW THIS AREA TO BE NAMED THIS GATEWAY MIXED USE. AND THEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND LABEL THE PURPOSE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT THE PERMITTED USES WILL BE, WHAT THE YOU KNOW, WHAT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED, WHAT WILL BE PROHIBITED. WE CAN SET LANDSCAPING GUIDELINES, PARKING EVERYTHING, SIGNAGE. SO WITH THIS TYPE OF USE, IT REALLY COULD POTENTIALLY GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO MAYBE PUT IN SOME OF THE THINGS SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BONNIE MENTIONED EARLIER. SIMILAR TO A TOWN CENTER. WE CAN SAY THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND WE CAN GET THIS CREATED THROUGH GATEWAY MIXED USE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. OKAY. NOW GOING BACK TO THE HODGEPODGE AND NOT JUST PICKING ON A MAYOR, BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR VAPE STORES AND OUR LIQUOR STORES, IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH THIS TYPE OF USE, ONCE THOSE PERMITS THAT ARE ORDINANCES OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WAS ALREADY ISSUED FOR THE LIQUOR STORES OR WHATEVER, ONCE THAT ZONING OR THEY MOVE OUT, DOES THAT ZONING, THEN GO AWAY AND THEN MIXED USE GATEWAY STEP IN. OR COULD WE WRITE THAT INTO OUR POLICY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? OH. HERE WE GO. SO BASED ON NONCONFORMING USES IN THE STATE LAW ON NONCONFORMING USES, IF WE HAVE ALLOWED VAPE SHOPS AND LIQUOR STORES TO LOCATE IN A CERTAIN LOCATION, THEY ARE ABLE TO, OF COURSE, CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THAT SPACE FOR THOSE PURPOSES. NOW, WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ALLOWANCE FOR VAPE STORES AND ALCOHOL STORES IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS. THE ONES, AGAIN, THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO EXIST, PROVIDED THAT THE CITY DOESN'T FOLLOW STATE LAW AND TERMINATE THAT USE. BUT THERE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE NEW ONES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO COME INTO THAT SPACE.SO DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ALL DO WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS GATEWAY OR WHATEVER IT WILL BE
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CALLED CORRIDOR AND OVERLAY. IF YOU PROHIBIT CERTAIN USES, ONCE IT'S IN PLACE, THOSE USES THAT YOU HAVE PROHIBITED WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COME IN, BUT THE EXISTING USES WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE. OKAY. AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION. GATEWAY MIXED USE. IT'S KIND OF BEEN A TERM THAT'S KIND OF BEEN AROUND SINCE PROBABLY 2000, 15, 17, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE DO SEE SOME CITIES THAT ARE ACTIVELY USING THIS SUCH AS LIKE HUDDLE. AND IT'S BEING, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE PRETTY MUCH SUCCESSFULLY GOTTEN IT DONE. AND SOME UP IN NEAR THE DALLAS AREA AND THE AUSTIN AREA. WE'RE RECENTLY SEEING RAINY STREET. IF ANYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH RAINEY STREET IN AUSTIN, IT WAS AN ECLECTIC STREET WITH FILLED WITH JUST ALL TYPES OF BARS AND DIFFERENT THINGS YOU COULD DO. VERY OLD, BUT NOW ALL OF IT IS BASICALLY GONE. YOU MAY HAVE 1 OR 2 NON-CONFORMING USES THAT MAY BE LEFT ON THAT STREET, AND EVERYTHING NOW IS VERY TALL, VERTICAL, YOUR HIGH END MIXED USE UNDERNEATH IT. AND THEY DO CONSIDER THAT ONE OF THE GATEWAYS. I THINK AGAIN, IT JUST HELPS US TO BE ABLE TO VISUALLY SEE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF GRAVITATE, GRAVITATE TO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THEN ALSO, WHEN WILL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE POLICIES WILL LOOK LIKE? OR ARE YOU GUYS TAKING OUR COMMENTS FROM HERE TO FORMULATE WHAT IT IS THAT WE WOULD WANT INSIDE OF A GATEWAY? MIXED USE? IS THAT HOW THAT'S WORKING? A COMBINATION? WE'VE WE'VE PROVEN WE'VE PRESENTED IN THE BINDERS SOME POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I THINK WHAT THE BRIDGE WOULD BE IS TAKING THAT AND PUTTING IT INTO A VISUAL FORMAT SO THAT IT'S DESCRIBED THAT WAY. OKAY.THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M JUST SAYING I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KIND OF SHAPE AND MOLD THIS REDEVELOPMENT AREA. AND THEN THE UNDER THE UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT WE HAVE LEFT. I THINK IF WE CAN STRATEGICALLY WORK TOWARDS FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT AND MERGE THAT WITH WHAT OUR EXISTING, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES ARE, I THINK THAT WE COULD REALLY BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS SIGNIFICANT AND TO SPEAK TO COUNCILWOMAN ODY, O'DEKIRK ODENKIRK'S, SORRY, I'M GOING TO GET IT PERFECTLY RIGHT.
ODENKIRK'S POINT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS I THINK ABOUT THE LIKE WHAT SHE MENTIONED, THE HUTTO AND JUST DIFFERENT OTHER THINGS THAT I MENTIONED ABOUT REGENCY SQUARE AND SUGAR LAND TOWN CENTER AND THE TOWN AND COUNTRY CITY CENTER, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T BUILD THOSE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. THEY DIDN'T JUST BUILD A TOWN CENTER FOR SUGAR LAND RESIDENTS. IT REALLY WAS A IT WAS TO BE A DESTINATION, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUTSIDE OF SUGAR LAND INTO SUGAR LAND, TO BRING SALES TAX REVENUE INTO THE CITY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE ON BUILDING SOMETHING AND BECOMING A DESTINATION THAT WE TALK ABOUT BEING A DESTINATION CITY. SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN BUILD AND BRING FORTH THAT WILL ALLOW OUR NON RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY TO COME IN AND HELP US INCREASE OUR SALES TAX REVENUE, BUT ALSO GIVE SOMETHING FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO NOT HAVE TO LEAVE THE CITY TO DO AS WELL. SO OUR FOCUS SHOULDN'T JUST BE ON BUILDING THINGS JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS. BUT WHAT CAN WE BUILD THAT WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME INTO OUR CITY FROM OUTSIDE OF IT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING, WHAT MANY OF US ARE CURRENTLY DOING NOW I GO TO SUGAR LAND TOWN CENTER, I GO TO SORRY, Y'ALL. I GO TO SUGAR LAND TOWN CENTER. I KNOW, I KNOW, SLAP MY HAND. I GO TO THE CITY CENTER IN TOWN AND COUNTRY. I GO TO VARIOUS PLACES. I GO TO MIDTOWN. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOOD HALLS AND DIFFERENT STUFF OVER THERE. SO THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT I DO OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY, BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T EXIST HERE. BUT IF I WASN'T A RESIDENT OF THOSE PLACES, IT DIDN'T MATTER. I STILL SPENT MY MONEY THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO BE. AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THAT SAME SENTIMENT. AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE IN OUR FOCUS HERE REALLY FOCUS ON BUILDING SOMETHING, CREATING SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, IN ADDITION TO WITHIN THE CITY, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE. SO ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR SO AT THIS POINT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JUSTIN PULLIAM, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, TO DISCUSS THE NEXT THREE FOCUS AREAS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. SO NEXT WE HAVE FOCUS AREA FOR INDEPENDENT STREET IN THE FIFTH STREET CORRIDOR. AND OUR RECOMMENDATION LAST TIME WAS GOING TO BE INTRODUCING A
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NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DISTRICT AND REVISING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COMMUNITY FACILITY DISTRICT.THE DISCUSSION CIRCLED AROUND THE FACT THAT THIS AREA IS NEEDS, AND HAS BEEN CALLED TO HAVE MORE SMALL SHOPS, MORE CAFES, MORE CLINICS, OFFICES THAT INTEGRATE WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS CREATING A WALKABLE, MIXED USE COMMUNITY THAT HAS EVERYDAY AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA. WE ALSO WANT THIS AREA TO SUPPORT LOCAL JOBS AND ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY THROUGH INCREASED ACTIVITY. ALSO, THERE'S A STRONG INTEREST IN CREATING A CORRIDOR THAT FEELS VIBRANT, SOCIAL AND WELCOMING TO ALL AGE GROUPS AND GIVING A MORE URBAN FEEL. THERE'S THE WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT, REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN LASTLY, THERE'S POTENTIAL TO INCLUDE PATIO CLUSTER RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN SOME OF THE TARGETED SPOTS IN THIS CORRIDOR AND PATIO. RESIDENTIAL CLUSTER AREAS ARE AREAS THAT WILL FEATURE SMALL HOMES BUILT AROUND SHARED PATIOS OR GREEN SPACES THAT ALSO PROMOTE AFFORDABILITY, COMMUNITY INTERACTION AND NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITY. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE GIVE THEM NOW. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. IF YOU HAVE.
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER, I JUST WANTED TO. THERE'S SO MUCH SOMETIMES CONFUSION FOR ME WHEN I LIKE I JUST DROVE DOWN FIFTH STREET YESTERDAY KNOWING WHAT'S FORT BEND COUNTY, WHAT'S STAFFORD, WHAT'S US. AND IF WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE ENTITIES ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO TO ENHANCE THERE BECAUSE SOME OF THAT STUFF OVER THERE LOOKS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME DEVELOPMENT AND UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT THERE, AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE COULD DO TO ENSURE THAT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING FIFTH STREET AS A WHOLE, HOW, HOW WOULD HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE FORT BEND COUNTY AND STAFFORD INTO THAT? CAN ANYBODY CHIME IN ON THAT? I THINK THIS TIES BACK TO THE COMMENT THAT COUNCILMEMBER RILEY MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT REACHING OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORING PARTNERS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT COLLECTIVELY, HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THE AREA FOR ALL. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT'S A TAKEAWAY THAT IT'S ON MY LIST TO TRY TO CREATE THOSE, STRENGTHEN THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AND LOOK AT HOW WE CAN LOOK AT THIS COLLECTIVELY, BECAUSE MAYBE IF WE PUT ALL THE LAND TOGETHER, WE MAY BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S EVEN MORE OF A DESTINATION SPOT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE WORKING ON. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT JENNIFER. I GUESS NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO FOCUS AREA FIVE THE FM 1092 CORRIDOR. OH THERE WE GO. SO THE PROPOSAL OR RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WAS ALSO TO INCLUDE A GATEWAY MIXED USE DISTRICT, SIMILAR TO THE TEXAS PARKWAY GATEWAY MIXED USE DISTRICT. THE DISCUSSION POINTS AND PUBLIC INPUT FROM LAST TIME CENTERED AROUND THE FACT THIS CORRIDOR IS AN IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT ENTRYWAY INTO THE CITY THAT CURRENTLY LACKS A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT VISION. SO WE NEED TO HAVE SUPPORT AND ESTABLISH A LONG TERM VISION AND LAND USE CHARACTER DISTRICTS THAT WOULD DEFINE THE VISION FOR THE AREA. FOR THIS CORRIDOR, WE WOULD NEED THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS. WHAT MAKES THIS AREA OF THE CITY UNIQUE? WHAT'S THE STORY THE CITY WANTS TO TELL THROUGH THIS CORRIDOR LAYOUT, DESIGN, AND LAND USES? AND LASTLY, A STRONG VISION FOR THE FM 1092 CORRIDOR WILL CREATE FOR THE CITY A FILTER FOR EVALUATING FUTURE PROPOSALS THAT COME INTO THIS CORRIDOR. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. I THINK AGAIN, ANOTHER GATEWAY MIXED USE. NOTHING AGAINST THE TERM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS PARKWAY. 1092, ESPECIALLY COMING FROM OTHER CITIES, RIGHT. WHETHER YOU'RE COMING FROM 59 OR YOU TRAVELING INTO THE CITY, NOT SO MUCH. CARTWRIGHT, BECAUSE CARTWRIGHT RUNS THE OPPOSITE WAY. BOTH OF THOSE, I'M SURE AT ONE POINT IN TIME IT WAS THE HIGHWAY SIX, IF NOT BETTER. SO WE HAVE TO FIND I THINK THERE ARE SO MANY COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE HERE AS TO WHAT OUR VISION IS FOR THAT CORRIDOR. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU CREATED THAT DESIGNATING, YOU KNOW, ENTRY POINT, I DON'T THINK JUST PUTTING A MONUMENT UP THERE THAT SHOWS THAT YOU'RE IN MISSOURI CITY MEANS ANYTHING. I THINK IT HAS TO BE A COMPLETE CHANGE INTO WHAT WE DO FOR BOTH OF THOSE CORRIDORS. THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT SOME OF THE MIXED CHARACTER DISTRICT AND
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SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL ARE OFF AND AT LEAST CALLING IT, BUT I THINK WE CAN DEFINE IT, EVEN MAYBE FINE TUNE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, YOU KNOW, I GUESS FOR ME, IF WE CAN CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, THE GATEWAY MIXED USE FOR TEXAS PARKWAY AND FOR 1092, IF WE CAN GET MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE CONSULTANT. SO WE UNDERSTAND CLEARLY EXACTLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WERE HELPING US TRANSITION THIS WHAT THEY'RE THINKING. BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT WHAT WHAT THEY COME UP WITH AS WELL, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN US JUST CALLING. WELL, OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM HAS ENDED. AND SO WE IF WE WANT TO GET MORE FROM THE CONSULTANTS, THEN THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SPEAK ON THE FACT THAT ON 1092, WE HAVE A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, ON 1092, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME OLDER APARTMENT COMPLEXES. WE HAVE WHAT'S THE NEW NAME OF THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT? I KNOW YOU KNOW JOHNNY THOMAS. NO, NO, NO, NO, NOT JOHNNY TAMALES, THE ONE.YEAH, VAQUERO. YEAH. NO, I SAID, WHAT'S THE NAME OF IT? I SAID, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT I SAID. NO, I'M JUST TEASING THE VAQUERO. THEN YOU HAVE THE NEW, I WANT TO SAY GARDEN HOMES, IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM THAT. THAT CLINTON. WHO IS IT? CLINTON. WONG. WHAT IS IT CALLED? SKY MARK THAT PUT UP BY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? IS THAT ARMSTRONG ELEMENTARY? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF. YOU GOT SOME SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESTAURANTS. YOU GOT NEW STRIP CENTERS. SO I GUESS WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THERE AND WHAT'S LEFT, ARE WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT KIND OF APPROACH ARE WE HAVING HERE? IS IT REDEVELOPMENT AND OR IS IT JUST FIXED THE REMAINING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S LEFT FOR THE UNDEVELOPED OR, YOU KNOW, OR BOTH. BOTH FOR TO 92 BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE KEY AREAS ON 1092 INCLUDE LIKE THE OLD CVS, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN THAT BE REUSED FOR? THERE'S SOME UNDEVELOPED LAND IN THAT VICINITY AS WELL. SO LOOKING AT WAYS THAT YOU CAN MAXIMIZE SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND POSSIBLY TIE THEM INTO AMERICAN LEGION PARK, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE LIKE WALKABILITY AND KIND OF THOSE GREEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DESTINATION, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS. THEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TRACT ALONG 1092 NORTH OF INDEPENDENCE AND LEXINGTON THAT THEY HAVEN'T DEVELOPED. AND THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE EDGES OF RESIDENTIAL. AND SO WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS PROPOSED OVER THE YEARS. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A SENSITIVE AREA BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE BACKSIDE OF RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, DISTRICTS. SO WHAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, GOOD OPPORTUNITIES THAT SUPPORT AND REFLECT, YOU KNOW, A UNIFORM VISION. SO WE'RE NOT RECREATING A HODGEPODGE OF CONDOS HERE AND APARTMENTS HERE AND, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL HERE. YOU HAVE MORE OF A UNIFORM KIND OF LOOK THAT'S MORE COHESIVE WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE THERE. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S REALLY MY CONCERN WITH WITH THIS 1092 AREA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO REALLY DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WE WANT TO GO THERE BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE, WHERE DO YOU BEGIN? YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, WHERE DO YOU WHERE DO YOU BEGIN ON THE LIKE YOU SAID, THE OLD CVS LIKE, OKAY, WELL WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THAT? OR WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE THERE? IS IT GOING TO BE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OR IS IT GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT OR IS IT GOING TO BE CONVERTED TO, YOU KNOW, A SOME SORT OF A SMALLER GROCERY TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, UNIT THERE OR I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, ALDI OR SOME SORT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD FIT ON 1092 THERE. BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO WRAP OUR MINDS AROUND THIS MORE WITH, WITH RESPECT TO 1092. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER. YEAH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE MENTIONED, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT ON 1092 THAT CLINTON LONG HAS THE HOMES, BUT I THINK THE FRONTAGE OF THAT ON 1092 IS COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL. SO IT'S ALL ON THE CLINTON, THE SKYMARK DEVELOPMENT. IT'S ALL ZONED AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. AND THERE IS COMMERCIAL USES DESIGNATED WITHIN THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT
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DISTRICT, BUT IT DOES HAVE SOME OTHER USES THAT COULD BE PERMITTED WITHIN THAT AREA. WAS THERE ANY WAY THAT OR ARE THERE ANY CONTROLS AS TO WHAT MIGHT BE ALLOWED TO GO IN THERE OR WHAT SKYMARK IS ATTEMPTING TO BRING IN THERE? SO IT WOULD IT WOULD FOLLOW ALONG WITH WHAT JOYCE MENTIONED ABOUT THE NON-CONFORMING, BECAUSE THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE. AND SO IF THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD TODAY WITH APPLICATIONS, THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED TODAY. HOWEVER, AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY DEVELOP THAT TODAY OR WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THEY CHANGE THE PLAN OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER AREAS THAT MIGHT BE UNDEVELOPED OR LOOKING TO REDEVELOP TO START TO IMPOSE THAT VISION. SO THEN AS THINGS START TO TRANSITION, YOU HAVE A MORE UNIFORM KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THERE. OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL WHAT GOES DOWN THE 1092 CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S A FAIRLY SIZABLE TRACK THAT, YOU KNOW, IS, AS YOU SAY, I GUESS IT'S PART OF THE PD, BUT IS. ALLOWS CERTAIN RETAIL OR WHATEVER THE PD WOULD ALLOW. BUT IF WE WANT TO TRY TO MAINTAIN SOME. THE BUSINESSES THAT COME IN THERE AND BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S THAT'S A GATEWAY. 1092 BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE AT WHERE STAFFORD BEGINS. PRETTY MUCH SO. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THE OTHER IS I THINK OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE NEXT TO THOSE HOMES THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SKYMARK OR Z. DANNY NGUYEN HAS, DOESN'T HE HAVE THOSE HOMES ON ON THE BACKSIDE OF WHERE MY FAVORITE RESTAURANT, EL VAQUERO, IS LOCATED? NO, I BELIEVE IT'S A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER. IT IS OKAY, BUT THERE'S SOME LAND BACK THERE. IS THERE SOME SOME CONSIDERATION FOR AN EVENT CENTER TO GO BACK THERE? SO I THINK MIGHT BE REFERENCING MY MICROPHONE OFF, I APOLOGIZE. THERE IS A ZONING APPLICATION THAT WILL COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, BUT IT'S FOR AN EXISTING BUILDING AND IT IS A PROPOSED EVENT CENTER. BUT IT'S NOT UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT ON. BUT YOU SEE, IT'S A OH, IT'S A PROPOSED BUILDING. IT'S NOT ONE THAT'S IT'S EXISTING BUILDING.OKAY. THE ONLY ONE I CAN THINK OF IS THE THAT STRIP CENTER THAT HAS A NUMBER OF STOREFRONTS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? OR MAYBE I'M. I'M MISSING WHERE THE. WELL, WE'LL WE'LL BRING THAT BEFORE YOU ALL AT A AT A FUTURE MEETING. BUT THERE IS AREA OVER THERE. THERE'S A TOWNHOMES THAT ATTACHED TOWNHOMES DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON THE BACK SIDE. AND THEN THE STRIP SHOPPING CENTER THAT IS CONDO RETAIL SPACE. AND THEN I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ANOTHER BUILDING THAT MAY BE DEVELOPED AS WELL ON THE UNDEVELOPED LAND ACROSS FROM IT. WELL, I GUESS MY POINT IS THERE'S SOME ACTIVITY GOING ON OVER THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW BEST FOR US TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF MONITOR THAT AND, AND SEE IF POSSIBLE WHAT GOES IN THERE IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE GO IN THERE. YEAH, I KNOW THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OF THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH LOOKING AT AT ZONING AND THE LAND USE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO. CERTAINLY, MAYOR, IF I MAY MAKE A QUICK POINT, I THINK THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME SORT OF A CONFUSION ABOUT GATEWAY MIXED USE AND 1092 AND TEXAS PARKWAY ARE HIGH VISIBILITY CORRIDORS. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS SET SOME KIND OF UNIQUE STANDARDS. THIS IS NOTHING. BUT YOU CAN CONSIDER THIS AS A PD. PD IS YOU CONTROL THE DEVELOPMENT. YOU SET STANDARDS, YOU CONTROL WHAT YOU WANT THERE. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. SO WE'RE NOT PICKING AND CHOOSING WHAT WE WANT HERE, BUT WE WANT TO SET HIGH STANDARDS AND MAKE THIS CORRIDOR MORE VISIBLE AND TAILOR IT TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS GATEWAY MIXED USES.
OKAY, SINCE YOU ASKED, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. YES, SIR. SO I THINK I HEARD COUNCILMEMBER BONY TALK ABOUT THE CVS THAT'S ON LEXINGTON. AND 1092. TYPICALLY WHEN A CVS OR WALGREENS LEAVE,
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IT BECOMES EITHER A GOODWILL OR DOLLAR STORE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WITH YOUR PROACTIVE APPROACH, IF THE GATEWAY MAKES USE ON 1092 TODAY, IF THAT CVS THAT'S CLOSED, IT'S BEEN CLOSED FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS ALMOST. IF THERE'S A DOLLAR, DOLLAR STORE OR GOODWILL THAT'S PLANNED TO COME THERE, IS THAT A PART OF THE GATEWAY? MIXED USE? WELL, I THINK I'LL LET THE EXPERT ALSO CHIME IN, BUT I THINK WE CAN SHAPE THAT. WE CAN SAY THAT NO, IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE THERE. WE WANT A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND THAT ENABLES US TO BRING ANOTHER CVS OR WALGREENS OR SOME KIND OF HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT SERVES AS A BUFFER TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THERE. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE CAN SHAPE THAT. WE CAN SAY THAT WE DON'T NEED THE DOLLAR GENERAL. GOOD. SO THAT LEADS ME TO THE NEXT POINT IS THE WAY IT'S THERE TODAY, THE ZONING THAT'S THERE TODAY. IF JENNIFER CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG TOMORROW, IF A DOLLAR STORE POPS UP, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THEIR MODEL. THEY WANT TO PICK THAT UP. CAN WE SAY WE CAN'T DO THAT TODAY? THE ZONING ON THAT PARTICULAR TRACK TODAY IS WOULD ALLOW FOR RETAIL SERVICES AND USES. SO IT WOULD ALLOW FOR A GOODWILL OR DOLLAR STORE OR WHATEVER THOSE THOSE WOULD FALL INTO THOSE CATEGORIES. OKAY. SO TO THE POINT THAT SHASHI WAS TALKING ABOUT, ONCE THIS IS ADOPTED, IT BECOMES A GREAT GATEWAY MIXED USE, THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY SOMEONE LIKE AND I'M NOT USING THEM AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT SOMETHING OF THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT'S COMING TO MISSOURI CITY. WE CAN SAY THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. WE WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO YEAH, AND THROUGH YOUR LAND USE, YOU WOULD SAY IT THROUGH DESIGN STANDARDS. SO WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, MINIMUM SIZES, MAXIMUM SIZES, SQUARE FOOTAGE. YOU KNOW, FOOTPRINT. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE OTHER CHARACTERISTICS ON THE LAND. YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW GREEN SPACE. YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU WOULD DEFINE THAT IN THE PURPOSE OF THAT GATEWAY DISTRICT. AND THEN YOUR ZONING DISTRICTS TO IMPLEMENT THAT WOULD SPECIFY THE SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE PERMITTED. AND THEN THOSE SPECIFIC USES WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE THE PURPOSE OF THAT DISTRICT.SURE. I WANT TO BRING IN A DOLLAR STORE WITH UNDER THE GATEWAY MIXED USE FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. WHAT WOULD YOU TELL ME? SO USUALLY WHAT WE SEE WITH DOLLAR STORES YOU HAVE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOT SQUARE FEET. SO THOSE ARE USUALLY 20,000FTā !S YOU KNOW. PLUS USUALLY YOU SEE A LOT OF SURFACE PARKING. YOU KNOW THAT'S A COMPONENT OF THAT. YOU SEE YOU DON'T SEE TOO MUCH OUTDOOR STORES, BUT THEY HAVE LIKE PALLETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THEY'LL STORE OUTDOORS. SO THOSE KINDS OF ELEMENTS ARE WHAT YOU WOULD DEFINE IN THE GATEWAY. YOU KNOW, KIND OF MIXED USE AS TO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE? DO YOU WANT TO SEE PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING? YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, A BUILDING FOOTPRINT OF A CERTAIN SIZE? AND THEN WHEN YOU START TO BUILD THOSE PARAMETERS, THEN THOSE TYPES OF USES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THERE WITHOUT SEEKING VARIANCES OR WITHOUT SEEKING, YOU KNOW, CHANGES TO THOSE, THOSE SO EXISTING BUILDING THE WAY IT IS. I'M TAKING OUT THE SHELVES. IF THEY HAVE IN THERE, I'M PUTTING BRAND NEW SHELVES IN THERE AND I'M CALLING IT A DOLLAR. RIGHT, A FACILITY. SO WITH THE SAME PARKING, NOT CHANGING ANYTHING UNDER THE GATEWAY, MIXED USE ONCE IT'S ADOPTED. CAN I DO THAT OR NOT? SO AGAIN, IT'S IN YOUR YOUR YOUR DETAILS OF BECAUSE THE GATEWAY MIXED USE THE LAND USE IS NOT SPECIFYING THE SPECIFIC BUSINESSES. IT'S GIVING YOU THE CHARACTERISTICS. I GET THAT RIGHT. AND WHAT IS IT GOING TO MAKE YOU STOP ME OR THIS COUNCIL STOP ME FROM DOING? I'M SELLING PRODUCTS FOR A DOLLAR IN THAT. IN THAT PARTICULAR USAGE, I'M NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. BUT BUT TODAY, IF IT'S ZONED, I ANYBODY ANYONE COULD USE THAT AND CALL IT A $2 BUSINESS, WHATEVER IT IS AND COME IN THERE. SAME THING. IDENTICAL DUPLICATE TO. I COULD DO THAT. SO BECAUSE THE ZONING IS THERE. BUT WHAT I'M ASKING IS TOMORROW WE ADOPT THIS. I'M DOING THE SAME EXACT SAME THING. I'M NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. I'M COMING IN THERE. I'M CALLING IT $10 STORE. SO IS THAT UNDER THE. BECAUSE IT USED TO BE A CVS. NOW THAT'S A CORRIDOR 1092 COMING INTO OUR CITY. HOW WHAT IS IT THAT GOING TO TELL ME THAT UNDER WHAT THAT THAT USAGE OF ME
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SELLING WHATEVER IT IS THAT I'M SELLING IN THERE THAT CANNOT GO THERE. SO THE ZONING. YEAH, IF I MAY. SO THE SECOND PART OF THAT THAT JENNIFER MENTIONED IS IMPLEMENTATION. OKAY. SO IF YOU ALL ADOPT THIS, THIS WOULD BECOME A GUIDE, A GUIDELINE. I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GATEWAY MIXED USE. RIGHT. SO WE CAN'T I MEAN THIS IS WHERE MY FRUSTRATION IS. SO THIS IS WHY I'M ASKING SO MANY DIFFERENT EXAMPLES IN A WAY, BECAUSE HOUSTON IS NOT ZONED. SO LITERALLY MEANS YOU CAN HAVE A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. AND RIGHT NEXT TO IT SOMEONE CAN PUT A GAS STATION, BUT WE HAVE ZONING. SO ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THIS CITY IS WHEN YOU HAVE BUSINESSES THAT LEAVE, WE CAN'T CONTROL THE BUSINESSES THAT LEAVE, BUT WE SAID WE'RE ZONED, WE HAVE ZONING REGULATIONS, BUT YOU HAVE THESE TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF A VALUED I MEAN, A BUSINESS, YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE COMING IN AND IT KIND OF TAKES AWAY FROM THAT CORRIDOR. AND THAT'S WHAT I GUESS I'M TRYING TO ASK YOU ALL ARE TELLING ME IMPLEMENTATION. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION. BEFORE WE GET TO THE IMPLEMENTATION, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT AM I AGREEING TO. YEAH. AND I THINK I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAYBE HELP ME UNDERSTAND I'M NOT GETTING. YEAH. AND I WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT IS DEVELOPED UNDER AND THE LAND USE CHARACTERS HAVE ALL JUST BEEN FOCUSED ON GENERICS. SO WHEN I SAID LIKE AUTO ORIENTED, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU ALLOW FOR THIS SURFACE PARKING LOT, YOU ALLOW FOR THIS BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IN A SUBURBAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF STYLE. THE BUILDINGS PUSHED BACK, YOU KNOW, FAR FROM THE ROADWAY. YOU HAVE A BIG MASS OF PARKING SPACES IN BETWEEN THE ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE BUILDING. SO THAT REALLY DOESN'T REALLY GIVE YOU A WHOLE LOT OF DIRECTION AS TO. BUT THIS IS THE VISION THAT I HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS AREA, IT'S JUST COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS THIS APPROACH KIND OF NARROWS THAT DOWN WHERE IT'S NOT JUST BROAD. YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. YOU WANT TO MAXIMIZE YOUR TAX BASE, BUT YOU WANT TO INCREASE IT, BUT YOU DO IT IN A MORE STRATEGIC KIND OF FASHION. BUT YOU ARE NOT DOING THAT AT THIS POINT. SO THIS IS NOT THE SPECIFIC. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SPECIFICS AS TO WHAT I'M ASKING. OKAY. I'M ASKING IS WHEN WE ARE CHANGING THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION TO CALLING A GATEWAY MIXED USE. THAT'S ALL WHAT WE HAVE AS PROPOSED HERE. RIGHT. SO ALL I'M ASKING IS IMPLEMENTATION OR NOT. I GAVE AN EXAMPLE. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THAT EXAMPLE. SO THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT THE RESIDENTS, WHEN THEY SEE A VIABLE BUSINESS THAT LEAVES. AND THEN HERE COMES SOMETHING ELSE AND THEY'RE LIKE WHY CAN'T YOU ALL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? WELL, IT'S WITHIN OUR ZONING REGULATIONS. RIGHT. WELL, LC1, LC2, LC3 AND THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN'T REALLY CONTROL WHAT COMES IN. SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND TRYING TO SAY IS I GET THE IMPLEMENTATION. SO I'M ASKING IS OKAY, WE'RE REMOVING ALL OF THAT BOXES ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE AND WE'RE CALLING IT THE RIGHT BOX.SO IS THAT HOW WE'RE WHERE YOU IMPLEMENT IT. IS THAT GOING TO ZONING. ZONING. IS THAT GOING TO HELP US TO SAY WE DON'T WANT $20 STORE. WE WANT SOMETHING ELSE. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. YES.
OKAY. YES. AND THAT'S THROUGH THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S CREATED. OKAY. I MEAN, MAYOR PRO TEM. SURE. THANK YOU. SO I THINK FOR A DIFFERENT WAY TO MAYBE LOOK AT IT IS WE TALK ABOUT HOW FM 1092 LOOKS TODAY. WELL, FM 1092 LOOKS THE WAY THAT IT DOES TODAY BECAUSE OF THE LEFT HAND SIDE. WE'VE ALLOWED ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS TO GO THERE. AND THEY HAVE THEY'VE GONE THERE. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE THIS GATEWAY MIXED USE, WHICH WILL ALLOW US PARAMETERS THAT WE WANT TO SEE. AND I THINK WHAT TO WHAT MAYOR WAS TRYING TO GET AT, WHAT WOULD MAKE A DOLLAR WHATEVER NOT WANT TO GO THERE. OKAY. I'M SORRY $20 STORE. AND MOST OF THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE BASED ON THAT BUSINESSES BUSINESS MODEL. BECAUSE IF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL DOES NOT FIT OUR GATEWAY PARAMETERS, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BACK AWAY FROM THIS, FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. UNDERSTOOD THAT? THAT MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE EVEN IN I KNOW WE KEEP HATING TO SAY SUGAR LAND AND STUFF, BUT THEY HAVE DOLLAR STORES, THEY HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS, BUT OFTENTIMES THEY'RE THEY'RE HIDDEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUCH RESTRICTIVE THINGS THAT THAT DOLLAR STORE HAS TO COME IN. AND TO ME, THAT JUST MEANS THE $20 STORE OR WHATEVER IT IS, THEY WANT IT TO BE THERE. SO THEY SPENT THE EXTRA CAPITAL IN ORDER TO MEET THEIR DESIGN STANDARDS. AND THEY WENT IN. AND I THINK THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ASK FOR
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HERE. BUT THE WAY WE ASK FOR IT IS THROUGH SETTING POLICY. SO ON THE LEFT SIDE IS ALL OF THE OLD POLICY THAT WE SET A LOT OF YEARS AGO. SO NOW WE SEE WHAT WE GOT BASED ON THAT. WE DRIVE BY, WE SEE THE TIRES OUT THERE, WE SEE ALL THE CRAZY STUFF. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE SET. SO NOW IN TODAY'S TIME, WE'RE TRYING TO SET SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE HAPPY WITH SO THAT WE CAN GET SOMETHING THAT'S MORE. GOT IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE.ITEM NUMBER. SO I GUESS SIX. RIGHT? SIX. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. THERE WAS NO GATEWAY. I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M JUST KIDDING. GO AHEAD. I'M OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE FOCUS AREA SIX, CARTWRIGHT ROAD CORRIDOR STAFF RECOMMENDED INTRODUCING IN TARGETED AREAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DISTRICT. A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. AS WELL AS REDRAWING THE COMMUNITY FACILITY. DISTRICT DISCUSSION FROM LAST TIME CENTERED ON THE FACT THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO MAXIMIZE ITS UNDERUTILIZED LAND ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, AND IT SURE IS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE GOALS OF THE CITY, WHICH THAT STRENGTHEN THE CORRIDOR, SUPPORT EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, AND REFLECT A SHARED VISION. INSTEAD OF MORE SINGLE PURPOSE BUILDINGS, THE AREA COULD SUPPORT MORE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, LOCAL RETAIL AND HOUSING OPTIONS THAT ADD VIBRANCY. LASTLY, THIS CORRIDOR REPRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING NEW ENERGY, AMENITIES AND TAX BASE FOR THE COMMUNITY ON CARTWRIGHT ROAD. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE GIVE THEM NOW. COUNCILMEMBER ODENKIRK, THANK YOU. SO SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THIS LITTLE YELLOW DOT THAT'S GOT TO BE NEXT TO OUR FIRE STATION, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. YEAH, IT'S I BELIEVE IT'S THE PARK AREA THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE CHANGING INTO SOME HOME SQUEEZED IN THAT. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER THING, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I'M, I MEAN A LOT OF THIS AREA. WELL, LET ME, LET ME ASK ABOUT ANCHOR CONSTRUCTION REAL QUICK. WE HAVE THIS SPOT THAT THEY'VE CURRENTLY FENCED OFF. IS THAT A NORMAL USE FOR PROPERTY LIKE THAT? DO YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DOES THIS DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I BELIEVE THEY PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY. SO IT BECOMES ONE PROPERTY. THEY STARTED OFF AT THE OLD SWIM SCHOOL, USED TO BE A SWIM SCHOOL FACILITY. THEY PURCHASED THAT. BUT THEIR OFFICES THERE AND THEN A RECENTLY ACQUIRED THE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY NEXT TO IT. SO THAT WOULD BECOME THEIR LARGE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CAMPUS. SO THE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE USING ON THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW WOULD BE ACCESSORY TO THE PRIMARY USE OF THEIR OFFICES. OKAY. AND I'LL BRING UP OFF OFF TOPIC. SOME THINGS WITH THAT PROPERTY. SORRY I'M TRYING TO MOVE THE SCREEN. THAT'S NOT WHAT I NEED TO DO. SO THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT'S NOT FAMILY PROMISE IS IMPORTANT. FAMILY PROMISE. YES. THAT WOULD BE THERE'S NO CHANGE, RIGHT? THERE'S NO PROPOSED CHANGE.
OKAY. SO EVERYTHING IN THIS FRONT SECTION REALLY WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO RIGHT NOW.
I'LL SAY THE BIGGEST CHANGE PROPOSED ON CARTWRIGHT IS GOING TO BE TOWARDS THE EAST, NEAR HAWKS ROAD AND COLUMBIA BLUE. AND THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT MORE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY. AND IF YOU SEE ON THE CURRENT SIDE, A LOT OF THAT AREA RIGHT NOW IS DESIGNATED ESTATE.
AND SO WE HAD THAT AREA OF CONFUSION AS TO THE PURPOSE AND INTENT BEHIND THE STATE. AND THAT ESTATE CHARACTER REPRESENTED A LOT OF THAT AREA IS NOT DIRECTLY IN AN ADJACENT MUD OR SERVED BY PUBLIC UTILITIES, BUT IT'S IN THE HEART, YOU KNOW, OF, OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DEVELOPED AREAS. SO WHAT OUR PROPOSAL IS, IS MOVING FORWARD, AS, YOU KNOW, UNDEVELOPED LOTS DEVELOP OR AS LOTS TRANSITION THAT YOU DEFINE THAT AREA TO HELP SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY ON BOTH TEXAS PARKWAY AND 1092. SO THE OVERLAY ALLOWS
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US THAT CONTROL. CORRECT. SO THAT SOMEBODY SELLS THE LOT, THEY CANNOT GO BACK IN WITHOUT COMING TO US FIRST AND BUILDING UP AN ACREAGE HOME OR SOMETHING RIGHT THERE. THE YEAH, THE OVERLAY HERE WOULD BE AND THE CONCEPT HERE THAT WE'RE PRESENTING WITH OVERLAYS IS REALLY WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF NEW LAND TO DEVELOP. AND SO REALLY TO TRY TO TRY TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THE GOALS AND, YOU KNOW, ASPIRATIONS IS REALLY MAXIMIZING THOSE AREAS YET TO DEVELOP WHERE AREAS THAT ARE PRONE TO REDEVELOP. SO THE OVERLAY HERE WOULD BE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDENTIAL USES THAT FIT WITHIN THAT VISION, WITH ALLOWING MIX OF USES WITHIN THERE. BUT THESE OVERLAYS ARE WHAT ARE GUIDING US IN OUR JOURNEY HERE. THAT'S WHAT'S GETTING US TO OUR NEW GOALS. CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU.RECOGNIZE AND COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY. YEAH. MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE FORUM TO ASK THIS QUESTION, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CARTWRIGHT ROAD AREA, WE'VE GOT A FACILITY THAT'S ON CARTWRIGHT AND IT'S A BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, AND BUSINESS OFFICE. AND IT'S WHERE ED'S PHARMACY IS PART OF THAT IN THE FRONT PART HAS AN CARTWRIGHT ROAD ADDRESS, THE CIRC. THE WAY IT CIRCLES AROUND IT COMES OUT ON 1092. SO SOME OF THOSE HAVE 1092 ADDRESSES. SO, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT CREATE OR IT APPEARS LIKE IT MAY BE CREATING A PROBLEM. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FACADE PROGRAM OR THINGS LIKE THAT. AND AGAIN MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE FORUM TO EXPRESS THAT, BUT I, I CAN'T PICK OUT WHERE YOU KNOW, THAT THAT. THAT BUSINESS OFFICE OR, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS CENTER IS LOCATED. BUT HOW DO WE DO THAT FROM A FROM A ZONING? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DOING A ZONING OR REZONING OF THAT? THAT AREA? SO AND I THINK ORIENTATION ON THE MAP, I THINK THAT AREA WE HAVE IT WITH THE FM 1092 CORRIDOR. SO IT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE YOU SEE THE BOLD LINE OVER. YEAH, OVER. KIND OF ABOVE.
MAYOR PRO TEM BROWN MARSHALL THAT AREA, THAT BOLD LINE OVER. ONE MORE OVER TO THE LEFT. UP RIGHT RIGHT IN OVER OVER TO THE RIGHT. IT'S NOT COLOR. YEAH. THAT'S 1092. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH.
SO IT'S WE HAVE IT PART OF THAT CORRIDOR AND THE CONCEPT AND VISION FOR THAT CORRIDOR. BUT I WILL SAY THAT THAT SHOPPING CENTER IS ALSO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. SO IT WOULD BE SIMILARLY SITUATED WHERE, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THEY AMEND THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THE RULES WITHIN THAT DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE. BUT THIS, YOU KNOW, CREATES, YOU KNOW, THE VISION FOR THAT. SO WHOEVER REDEVELOPS IT OR AS IT MOVES FORWARD, YOU ESTABLISH KIND OF WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE FOR THAT AREA. IN TERMS OF THE ADDRESSING, I'M NOT AWARE OF THE ADDRESSING BEING AN ISSUE, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY. I STOPPED BY THAT AND ADS TODAY AND HE WAS ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE I GUESS WE'VE GOT SOME KIND OF SIDE ACTIVITY WITH THE OWNER OF THAT. AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH IS HALF OF THE OF THE BUSINESS CENTER IS, HAS CARTWRIGHT ADDRESSES AND THE BACK HALF HAS 1092. SO AND AGAIN THIS MAY NOT BE THE PLACE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ZONING HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORIES FOR ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO THERE'S ONLY WOULDN'T BE BY ADDRESS. IT WOULD. IT WOULD BE THE PROPERTY ITSELF. AND SO THAT IT WOULDN'T IN THAT INSTANCE, THE ZONING WOULDN'T BE SPLIT BASED ON WHICH STREET IT'S ADDRESS OFF OF. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, MAYBE WE CAN. YEAH.
OFFLINE. WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S BEING. CONSIDERED AND BEING ASKED BY
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THE, THE BUSINESS OWNER. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZE AND COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR I'M A LITTLE TURNED AROUND ABOUT THE MAP. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE EVERYTHING IS HERE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THREE THREE THINGS. PARTICULARLY I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE DRAPER TRACK IS ON THIS. SO WHERE WOULD THAT BE? IT'S IN THE TEXAS PARKWAY, SO WE SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE OVERLAP BETWEEN SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE OVERLAP BETWEEN THE CORRIDORS, THE DRAPER TRACK, WHICH IS THE TRACK AROUND CVS AT THE INTERSECTION OF COLUMBIA, BLUE CARTWRIGHT, TEXAS PARKWAY, CARTWRIGHT, THAT UNDEVELOPED TRACK THAT'S PART OF THE TEXAS PARKWAY CORRIDOR. OKAY. SO THAT'S UNDER THAT. THE GATEWAY. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I GOT YOU.OKAY, SO WHERE DOES I GUESS WHERE DOES THIS YELLOW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BEGIN? WHAT IS THAT? SO THAT THAT STARTS AT COLUMBIA BLUE. THE INTERSECTION OF. SO IS THAT MUSTANG TRAILS OR WHAT IS THAT. RIGHT. SO MUSTANG TRAILS WOULD BE WHERE YOU SEE THAT THAT CARVE OUT A YELLOW THAT COMES SOUTH OF CARTWRIGHT. OKAY. MUSTANG TRAILS WOULD BE ALL OF THAT. THAT'S TO THE RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN THAT BEVERLY WOODS SUBDIVISION WOULD BE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT, THAT YELLOW PIECE THAT DROPS DOWN. SO WHAT IS THE LARGER YELLOW THE LARGER IS A LARGE ACREAGE RESIDENCE. SO IT'S ONE SINGLE HOUSE THAT'S ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. IS THAT HAWKS EDITION.
NO. OKAY. SO OKAY I WAS TRYING TO SPEAK TO HAWKS EDITION, THAT BIG, LARGE WOODED AREA. SO IS THAT OWNED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL OR HOW IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT? WHO OWNS THAT? THE YELLOW AREA.
YEAH. I MEAN THERE'S SEVERAL SEVERAL PEOPLE THERE. YEAH. THERE'S INDIVIDUAL OWNERS. AND DO THEY HAVE ANY PLANS TO DO ANYTHING OR HAVE WE TALKED TO THEM OR HAVE THEY APPROACHED THE CITY OR WE APPROACH THEM. SO WE HAVE HAD INTEREST SO THAT THERE'S LIKE 11 ACRES THAT'S RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF COLUMBIA, BLUE AND CARTWRIGHT. WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT OUTREACHES ABOUT THAT PROPERTY. THERE'S A PROPERTY JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT, A TRACK THAT HAS FRONTAGE ON CARTWRIGHT THAT DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS HAVE KIND OF CONSIDERED AND TRIED TO LOOK AT FOR NONRESIDENTIAL PURPOSES. OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF INTEREST, OR AT LEAST THAT'S THAT'S COME TO US FOR PROPERTIES ON THAT IN THAT AREA. SO CURRENTLY THAT AREA IS DESIGNATED AS STATE THE LAND USE PLAN. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO JUST POINT OUT IS RELATIVE TO CRAIG MURRAY, HE IS OPEN. HE DOESN'T WANT TO SELL THAT PROPERTY TO JUST ANYBODY. HE EITHER WANTS TO DEVELOP IT HIMSELF, OR HE WANTS TO WORK WITH SOMEONE IN CONCERT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A MULTIFAMILY. SO HE'S INTERESTED IN SOMETHING LIKE A, YOU KNOW, GOING VERTICAL, POSSIBLY TEARING IT DOWN AND DOING SOMETHING VERTICAL, LIKE RETAIL AT THE BOTTOM WITH MAYBE LIKE A FOOD HALL AND THEN GOING UP WITH SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, LOFTS OR, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY UNITS, BUT HIGH END NOTHING THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HAVING ANYBODY IN THAT. AND, AND I THINK THAT THIS PROPOSAL WOULD HELP SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF IMPLEMENTATION WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO COME THROUGH A SEPARATE ZONING AMENDMENT PROCESS, DEPENDING ON KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE THOSE REGULATIONS ARE FINALIZED. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE IN OUR FINALIZING THIS, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM. I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, BUT THIS RECENT CONVERSATION, HE EVEN SENT AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING IN ATLANTA THAT HE THAT THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT HE WOULD WANT TO DO IN THAT PROPERTY IN THAT AREA. BUT LAST THING, I WAS GOING TO GO BACK AND ASK ON THE CURRENTLY DESIGNATED ESTATE LAND USE, WHAT WOULD WE HAVE TO GET THEIR PERMISSION TO CHANGE THE ZONING? OR CAN WE JUST ARBITRARILY CHANGE IT? SO ZONING, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS AN INTERACTIVE PROCESS DEPENDING ON WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE CHANGING, WE WOULD GO INTO A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION AND PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH ADDITIONAL ADVICE AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS IT RELATES TO CHANGING ZONING. BUT IN GENERAL, LAND USES WHERE WE'RE CHANGING SPECIFIC LAND USES, SPECIFIC CATEGORIES. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO NON-CONFORMING USERS. AND THEN THEN THEY ARE ABLE TO COME IN AND PRESENT TO US, AND THEN WE CAN CHANGE THOSE USES, OF COURSE, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP USING
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THEIR THEIR LAND AS THEY'RE USING IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. YEAH, YEAH. YOU DON'T SEE ME. OH, I GOT SOME GLASSES. SORRY. YOU NEED GLASSES NOW? NO. AND HOPEFULLY COUNCIL MEMBER BONEY, WHEN WE GET A NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, WE CAN WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO. I KNOW WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME SQUINTING OUR EYES AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THINGS ARE. IF Y'ALL COULD MAYBE MAKE THIS MAKE THESE DIAGRAMS A LITTLE MORE READER FRIENDLY, BECAUSE Y'ALL SEE THIS STUFF EVERY DAY. AND IF WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT AND WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS STUFF, PUT SOME DESCRIPTORS. DO PLEASE DO A BETTER JOB OF PUTTING DESCRIPTORS HERE SO THAT WE DON'T SPEND HALF OF THE TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WHAT AND WHAT STREET IS WHAT AND WHAT BUILDING IS WHAT. PLEASE. THAT'S THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT AREA AND WE'RE SKIPPING SEVEN. RIGHT. WE ARE. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO EIGHT. YES. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO FOCUS AREA EIGHT WHICH IS THE TRAMMEL FRESNO AREA. AND LET ME GET. YEAH. SO THE TRAMMEL FRESNO AREA, WE'RE BACK TO THE GATEWAY MIXED USE. SO YOU SEE THAT IN THOSE HIGH PROFILE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT AND FOR GROWTH. SOME OF THE SUMMARY OF THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION FROM THE LAST TIME INCLUDES THAT THIS IS ONE OF OUR PRIME COMMERCIAL HUB AREAS. SO THIS IS ONE OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF INTEREST, A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AS A RESULT OF FORT BEND TOWN CENTER TWO AND OTHER COMMERCIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN AND AROUND THIS CORRIDOR. AND SO REALLY, THIS DESIGNATION SEEKS TO KIND OF LEAN INTO THIS BEING THAT PRIMARY HUB AND ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN PLACES THAT ARE WELL BUILT, FUNCTION WELL AND HAVE A SENSE OF PLACE. AND SO THIS STILL FOLLOWS THE SAME CONVERSATION THAT WE WERE HAVING IN TERMS OF CREATING THAT VISION FOR THIS AREA. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. LET'S GO TO NINE. THE HIGHWAY SIX CORRIDOR. AGAIN WITH THIS AREA COUNCIL. THE DISCUSSION WAS WAS THAT PREVIOUS ZONING ACTIONS HAVE RESULTED IN AGREEMENTS BETWEEN SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS RESIDENTIAL, NONRESIDENTIAL. AND SO THE QUESTION WAS WAS WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROPOSAL FACILITATED SOME OF THE ASPECTS AND COMPONENTS OF THOSE AGREEMENTS. AND SO WHAT WE WOULD RESPOND TO WITH THAT IS THOSE AREAS IN QUESTION, PRIMARILY ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF WHAT'S ALONG HIGHWAY SIX, SOUTH CRAIGMONT THOSE AREAS ARE ALL ZONED AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THAT THERE WAS CONSENSUS BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA TO AGREEING TO TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTED TO SENIOR LIVING OR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DETACHED TOWNHOMES, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DUPLEXES, PATIO CLUSTER, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THAT WAS PRIMARILY IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE AT WHAT'S SOUTH OF HIGHWAY SIX AND TO THE WEST OF THE OAKMONT SUBDIVISION. AND SO THIS PROPOSAL WITH THE GATEWAY MIXED USE, WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THIS IS TO REALLY CREATE THOSE AREAS OF TRANSITION BETWEEN CRAIGMONT SHIPMENTS COVE AND AS YOU GET INTO MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT AT THE FORT BEND TOWN CENTER. THREE AND AT THAT FORT BEND TOWN CENTER OR FORT BEND PARKWAY CORRIDOR. SO THAT'S THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS AREA.OKAY. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER OUDERKIRK. THANK YOU. SO SINCE THIS IS A SOMEWHAT CONTENTIOUS AREA RIGHT HERE BECAUSE OF THIS GATEWAY MIXED USE, THIS WILL ALWAYS COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND IT WILL ALWAYS COME AS A WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS. RIGHT? I THINK WHAT YOU SAW WITH THE PD AMENDMENT, WITH THAT AGREEMENT WAS IF THE RESIDENTS HAD BUY IN INTO WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL IS, THERE'S STILL THE STANDARD PROCESS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, PUBLIC INPUT, BUT YOU
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MAY HAVE MORE ALIGNMENT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, MITIGATION FOR SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. OKAY. I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST THROW ANYTHING UP IN HERE AND IT'S GOING TO, I MEAN, JUST WREAK HAVOC ON THE COMMUNITY. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, HOME FOR THE ELDERLY RESIDENTS AND ALL THOSE THINGS YOU JUST LISTED, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, RIGHT? THERE'S THEY'RE STILL GOING TO COME BEFORE US TO IN THAT PARTICULAR TRACK, THERE'S A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. SO JENNIFER, LET ME SEE IF I CAN TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.COUNCIL MEMBER YOU'RE ASKING THERE IS ALREADY SOME ARRANGEMENT OR AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE RESIDENTS. CAN IT BE HELD? SO THIS IS, AS I SAID MORE BEFORE, THIS IS MORE LIKE A PD. SO YOU CAN SET YOUR OWN CRITERIA, INCLUDING THE CRITERIA THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN AGREED UPON. AND THOSE CAN BE ENFORCED PART OF THE GATEWAY MIXED USE. AM I CORRECT, JENNIFER, AS PART OF THE ZONING TO IMPLEMENT THE GATEWAY MIXED USE. SO THE GATEWAY MIXED USE IS THE VISION IS THE OVERALL POLICY OKAY. SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE AN UNDERLYING ZONING HERE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REFER BACK TO. RIGHT OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE RESTRICTION TO THE SENIOR LIVING AND THE BLAH BLAH BLAH. WHAT YOU LISTED OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER EMORY YEAH, I NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, WE HAVE THE STATE CHARACTER. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROPOSED, THERE'S NOTHING THAT DESIGNATES, YOU KNOW, THAT CATEGORY IS THAT IF SOMEONE, A LANDOWNER OWNS THAT PROPERTY AND IT'S ZONED AS A STATE CHARACTER, ARE WE TAKING IT AWAY FROM THAT, THAT ZONING CLASSIFICATION OR.
YEAH. AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME CLARIFICATION BETWEEN THE INTENT OF A STATE CHARACTER AND THEN ALSO THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF SUBURBAN DISTRICT. AND SO FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THE STATE CHARACTER, THAT INTENT IS REALLY FOR THOSE LARGE ACREAGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY PRIVATE ON SITE UTILITIES, AS DISTINGUISHED FROM DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE TO TIE INTO PUBLIC UTILITIES. AND SO ANY DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD HAS TO HAS A REQUIREMENT TO TIE INTO PUBLIC UTILITIES. SO THOSE THAT THAT VISION AND DESIGNATION FOR STATE WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THESE AREAS ALONG MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THAT ARE IN PROXIMITY TO PUBLIC UTILITIES. OKAY. I RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE WELL, I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL. SO ANYWHERE BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT STATED SEVERAL TIMES, ESPECIALLY ON THE GATEWAY MIXED USE, BUT IN VARIOUS AREAS WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED PDS AND ARRANGEMENTS, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS ON THE MAPS AS WELL AS A DESCRIPTOR, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE AND WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE SO THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, OH YEAH, OKAY. SO ON THE WHERE IS THE FRANK LIU. THEY HAVE THE PD THAT WE WORKED THROUGH WITH CRAIGMONT ON THIS SCREEN. THEIRS IS ALL OF THAT GRAY AREA NORTH AND SOUTH OF STATE HIGHWAY SIX, EXCEPT FOR THAT GRAY. THAT'S CLOSER TO SHIPMAN'S COVE, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT ALL OF THE GRAY ALONG WHAT'S IN STATE HIGHWAY SIX? THAT'S THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATE ON IF AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS? BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME PRETTY RESTRICTIVE THINGS ON THAT PD AS WELL AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT LIKE NO TOWNHOMES AND. THEN THEY HAVE SENIOR LIVING AND THINK OF PUBLIC STORAGE. YEAH.
NO WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES OKAY. ALL RIGHT I'D BE INTERESTED TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY ARE ON THAT, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON THAT AND MY QUESTION ON CRAIGMONT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ONE MORE TO THE NEXT FOCUS AREA OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE AT THE LAST FOCUS AREA. AND THIS IS THE BOX KNIGHT ROAD MCKEEVER ROAD AREA. AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION HAS BEEN HAD ON THIS AREA, INCLUDING PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WE'RE LOOKING AT, AGAIN, THOSE AREAS THAT ARE PRONE TO DEVELOP
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THAT MUST TIE INTO PUBLIC UTILITIES AND ARE ADJACENT TO AREAS THAT ARE PRONE TO DEVELOPMENT, TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DENSER DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES SUPPORT SOME OF THE WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED THE TEXTILE GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT THE CITY RECENTLY PROVIDED FOR THOSE KIND OF EFFORTS WOULD GO AND PLAY INTO SUPPORTING THAT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT KIND OF DESIGN. BUT THE PROPOSED LAND USES WOULD INCLUDE THAT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT. SO WHERE THERE'S NATURAL OR SENSITIVE AREAS, THOSE AREAS CAN STILL BE PROTECTED AND DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING IN CLUSTERS. THOSE TYPES OF AREAS. SO BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE QUESTION, CAN YOU CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THAT ROADWAY IS ON THE TOP. AND THEN WHAT'S THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM? RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE COLOR IS WHAT'S. SO THAT IS THE INTERSECTION OF KNIGHT ROAD.AND WHAT'S AT THE BOTTOM. THE OLIVE COLOR WHERE KNIGHT ROAD INTERSECTS THAT IS MCKEEVER ROAD. ALL RIGHT. GOING TO RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER O'DEKIRK. YEAH. SORRY. WHEN THEY DID THE STUDY WERE THIS DO WE HAVE ANY DATA OR INFORMATION ON WHY THIS WAS TURNED INTO COMMERCIAL VERSUS OTHER RESIDENTIAL OR SOMETHING? IT REALLY IS IT. CAN YOU PROVIDE ANY BACKGROUND ON ON THE THOUGHT PROCESS HERE? SURE. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL A STATE CHARACTER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MEANS THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES THROUGH WOULD LIKELY BE COMING THROUGH FOR ZONING AMENDMENTS. AND THEN THE QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT IS APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT? WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS, AGAIN, MIXED USE APPROACH PRIMARILY FOCUSED AT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. SO THAT'S KIND OF YOUR ONE STORY, YOU KNOW, OFFICES OR ONE STORY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF NONRESIDENTIAL THAT COULD BE INTEGRATED, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL SMALL SCALE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS BECAUSE THIS IS AN AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IS BEING EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY SIX TO CONNECT, YOU KNOW, TO THE PORTION TO HIGHWAY SIX, YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT ON BOTH SIDES OF WHAT'S. AND SO THIS AREA IS SUBJECT TO, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED IN THAT AREA. OKAY. AND JUST TO BRING UP CONCERNS THAT RESIDENTS IN THE AREA FLOOD MITIGATION WITHOUT DISTURBING THE EXISTING FLOOD, FLOOD ZONE, FLOOD AREA, THAT TYPE OF THING.
IS THIS POSSIBLE? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE DIFFERENT DETENTION OR ARE THEY GOING TO FILL HOLES? HOW HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONTROL THIS PROCESS? WELL THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR THAT QUESTION. WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DRAINAGE IMPACTS, IF ANY, ARE MITIGATED.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT. SO WHAT STAFF HAS BEEN DOING SPECIFICALLY ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS STAFF, WORKING WITH OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, IS THERE IS PLANS TO EXTEND WHAT'S PLANTATION FROM KNIGHT FURTHER EAST AND TYING TO CREEK MONT. THAT IS COUNTY IS TAKING THE LEAD ON THAT PROJECT THERE NEEDING SOME DETENTION PONDS. SO WE ARE WORKING ON A POSSIBLE I STRESS THAT A POSSIBLE REGIONAL DETENTION PART WITH THE DEVELOPER SO WE CAN MITIGATE THE ROADWAY IMPACTS AS WELL AS POTENTIAL NEW IMPACTS, AND CREATE A REGIONAL DETENTION POND THAT CAN ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE NEEDS, AS WELL AS PROVIDE DETENTION FOR THE ROADWAY PROJECT AND POTENTIALLY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT IS IN THE WORKS. AND THAT ROADWAY PROJECT IS A LEAD THAT FORT BEND COUNTY IS TAKING. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM? I MEAN, YOU GAVE ME INFORMATION. YOU DIDN'T SAY WHERE THIS DRAINAGE WOULD THESE DETENTION PONDS WOULD BE. I THINK MY CONCERN IS MORE WITH THE NATURAL FEATURES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE AND POSSIBLY TRYING NOT TO DISTURB THEM BECAUSE THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SOME CONCERN THAT THERE IS WILDLIFE HERE. THIS IS SOME OF THE REMAINING WILDLIFE AREA. HOW CAN WE BLEND OUR NEEDS FOR DEVELOPMENT AND POSSIBLY TRY TO RETAIN. I KNOW YOU REFERRED TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BUILDING AROUND AND MAKING NICHES, NICHES, I GUESS, IN THIS AREA.
BUT I JUST AND LET ME ANSWER THAT ONE MORE TIME. THERE ARE SOME DESIGNATED WETLANDS HERE.
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THEY NEED TO BE PRESERVED OR THERE ARE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU HAVE TO BUILD OVER THE WETLANDS, YOU KNOW, MITIGATION AND BANKING AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO AS AND WHEN THESE DEVELOPMENTS COMES TO THE CITY, THE CITY WILL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO SEE MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING WETLANDS AND WORK AROUND THOSE AREAS. AS SUCH, THERE ARE HIGHER TIGHT REGULATIONS FOR THEM TO COMPLY, SO IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO PRESERVE THOSE WETLANDS AND WORK AROUND THOSE AREAS. THAT THAT ANSWERS THAT BETTER.THANK YOU. CHASSIS. SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO YOU SAID WHERE THE GREEN OR OLIVE COLOR IS. THAT'S ESTATES CHARACTER. WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE TODAY IN THE ESTATE CHARACTER IS LARGE LOT PRIVATE UTILITIES. BUT THE PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE IS IN CITY PRIVATE UTILITIES FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT IS NOW PROHIBITED. SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS, IS IF A NEW DEVELOPMENT TRIES TO DEVELOP AND THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE TWO AREAS RIGHT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS ARE LARGE PIECES OF PROPERTY UNDER ALMOST SINGULAR OWNERSHIP RIGHT NOW. BUT IF THEY WERE TO DEVELOP A MEANINGFUL DEVELOPMENT THERE RIGHT NOW, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TIE IN TO PRIVATE UTILITIES. THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONNECT TO A PUBLIC UTILITY SOURCE. SO YOU'RE SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING IS A LOT OF THE HOMES BACK THERE HAVE THEIR OWN WELL WATER. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SEPTIC. CORRECT. SO YOU'RE SAYING IN ANY OF THIS, WHETHER IT'S THE PINK OR THE OLIVE GREEN, RIGHT. ALL OF THAT, IF SOMEONE DEVELOPS IT, IT HAS TO GO INTO THE CITY. UTILITIES. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT PINK AREA WHERE THE I GUESS WHERE THE WETLANDS, SHASHI, THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT ON THIS DIAGRAM, IT IS VERY HARD TO SEE ON THIS DIAGRAM. IT'S IN THE ESTATE CHARACTER THAT YOU MENTIONED TO THE TO THE EAST OF KNIGHT ROAD ALONG THE ESTATE CHARACTER. THAT'S WHERE PREDOMINANTLY THE WETLANDS ARE. BUT I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT. THAT'S FINE. SO WE KNOW WHERE THE KNIGHT ROAD IS. THERE'S A SMALLER PORTION OF PINK OR WHATEVER THAT COLOR IS, RIGHT? THEN THERE'S A BIGGER PORTION OF THAT SAME COLOR, RIGHT? WHICH SIDE OR IS BOTH? IF THIS IS KNIGHT ROAD, IT IS ON THIS SIDE. SO THAT'S KNIGHT ROAD. THAT'S WHAT'S UP AT THE TOP. CORRECT? OKAY. IT'S ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, PREDOMINANTLY THE SMALLER PINK OR THE BIGGER PINK LARGER LARGER. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. IS IT THE SMALLER PINK OR THE LARGER? I THINK IT'S THE LARGER PINK. LARGER. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S THE BIGGER ONE. YEAH. SO IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF NITRO I THINK MORE THAN THE LARGER PINK. IT'S MORE ON THE ESTATE CHARACTER JUST SOUTH OF THAT PINK. CORRECT. SO THE SMALLER PORTION OF THAT COLOR IS WHERE THE EVENT CENTER WAS GOING TO COME, OR PART, PART OF THAT PARCEL, CORRECT. TO THE LEFT OF KNIGHT ROAD TO THE LEFT, TO THE WEST OF NITRO. SMALL. YES. OKAY, I GOT IT, MAYOR. OKAY. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S UP THERE. THIS IS MCKEEVER. RIGHT. THAT'S ESTATES OF SILVERBRIDGE. CORRECT. SO I'M SAYING WHEN I SAY THE EVENT CENTER WAS GOING TO BE IN HERE, BUT AT THE TOP, WHICH MEANS TOWARD WHAT'S RIGHT. CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE DRAINAGE AND THE WATER AND ALL THAT. SO TODAY, THE WAY IT'S MARKED, IT'S ALL UNDER ESTATES. RIGHT. SO MEANING THAT TODAY ANYONE CAN BUILD ANYTHING THERE. THE ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY IS LARGELY A SUBURBAN DISTRICT. I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. BUT THE QUESTION ON THE ESTATE CHARACTER WOULD COME IF SOMEONE SOUGHT TO AMEND THE ZONING AND THEN THE POLICY. RIGHT NOW IT SAYS ESTATE. AND SO THE INTENT BEHIND THAT POLICY IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS FOR TYING INTO PUBLIC UTILITIES AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH TYING INTO PUBLIC UTILITIES. OKAY. SO THE THAT PORTION WHERE THE EVENT CENTER WAS GOING TO BE, RIGHT. I REMEMBER WHEN THERE WAS A DRAWING THAT SHOWS CLOSER TO ESTATES OF SILVER RIDGE, THERE WAS GOING TO BE A WATER VIEW.
THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THE WATER THAT DRAIN RIGHT THROUGH THE BACK OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO NOW THE WAY THAT YOU ALL ARE PROPOSING IS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL, CORRECT. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, INSTEAD OF THE SMALLER PORTION, CAN WE CREATE THAT AS JUST RESIDENTIAL ONLY
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AND THE KEEP THE REST OF IT AS BECAUSE THE I GUESS WHAT'S THE WHAT'S GOING TOWARDS HIGHWAY SIX. WHAT IS THAT? I MEAN, NOT SOUTH. THAT'S WEST. RIGHT. GOING RIGHT TO EAST, WEST TO EAST EAST GOING TOWARDS HIGHWAY SIX. KEEP THAT AS A SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. SO THIS WAY WE WOULDN'T HAVE.AND WHEN, WHEN IT, WHEN IT IS A RESIDENTIAL, IF IT COMES THROUGH THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW DEPENDING ON THE TRACK OF LAND AND WHATEVER IT IS INSTEAD OF CREATING A COMMERCIAL.
BECAUSE IF YOU PUT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL THAT FALLS UNDER ANOTHER EVENT CENTER, CORRECT.
OR ANY OF THAT. CORRECT. ANY COMMERCIAL. SO VERY WELL. SO IT'S THE SCALE. SO THAT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE A SMALLER SCALE DEVELOPMENT. THAT MIGHT BE GATEWAY DISTRICT. I'M STILL CONFUSED, BUT DON'T GO TO GATEWAY RIGHT. THE FOOTPRINT IS GOING TO BE SMALLER. SO WHETHER OR NOT AN EVENT CENTER OR SOMETHING OF THAT MAGNITUDE COULD GO THERE, IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SIZE AND THE SCALE. CORRECT. BUT THEN THE ONE THAT WAS PROPOSED, THE SIZE THAT WAS PROPOSED, I GUESS AT THAT TIME IT COULD HAVE FIT IN THERE. RIGHT. SO THE SIZE OF SIX STORIES WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS. SO IT WAS A 3 OR 4 STORIES, I THINK THAT WAS THAT WAS PROJECTED AT THAT TIME. SO UNDER THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T HAVE IT HAS TO BE ONE STORY. SO THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL IS A LOWER PROFILE. SO THAT'S A ONE STORY, TWO STORY THAT'S MORE COMPATIBLE, YOU KNOW, WITH ADJACENT TYPE USES. OKAY. SO AND THE PART OF THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS KNIGHT ROAD, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, YOU STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS WHAT'S PAST, WHAT'S GOING TOWARDS THE SERVICE ROAD, IF YOU WILL, FOR FORT BEND TOLL ROAD, THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL HOMES OR ACREAGE OR WHAT HAVE YOU UP THERE. SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT, SAYING EVERYTHING IS TODAY.
THE INCLUDING THE METRO CAR GARAGE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE RIGHT THAT SIDE OF THE. SO IF WE KEEP THAT SIDE AT LEAST COMMERCIAL NOT BENDING TO INTO THIS SIDE. SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE SOMEWHAT IF, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMPLETELY USED AS WATER DRAINAGE VIEW OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THERE MAY BE LIKELY THAT DEPENDING ON HOW THAT CHANNEL COMES DOWN AND THROUGH THAT PROPERTY, I KNOW IT CROSSES OVER OR UNDER WHAT'S AT SOME POINT IN TIME AND COMING INTO THIS PROPERTY, INSTEAD OF KEEPING IT COMMERCIAL, WHERE WE HAVE THESE HUGE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT WHAT THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS IS COMING THERE. SO WE KEEP IT AS A IF WE CAN'T KEEP IT, IF THAT PART DOESN'T WORK, MEANING THAT IF IT DOESN'T GET ZONED COMPLETELY OUT FOR WATER AND DRAINAGE, AND IF IT IS STILL CAN BE DEVELOPED, THEN I WOULD. FOR ME, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING THERE, AND THEN KEEP ALL OF YOUR COMMERCIALS ON THE ON THE SIDE OF THE METRO CAR GARAGE ON KNIGHT ROAD, BECAUSE I GET THE FACT THAT IT HAS TO BE GOING THAT WAY AND WE KEEP THE FROM WHAT'S EVEN IF YOU GO TOWARDS THE SERVICE ROAD PAST WHAT'S, THERE ARE STILL HOMES THAT ARE ACREAGE OR HALF ACREAGE OR WHAT HAVE YOU AND KEEP IT THAT WAY. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PIECE. I WILL TURN NEXT IS MAYOR PRO TEM BROWN. THANK YOU. WITH REGARDS TO THE WHAT IS THIS? WHAT DO Y'ALL CALL THIS COMMERCIAL? WHATEVER. SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. IS THIS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WRITE IN WHAT WE WOULD WANT THIS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL TO LOOK AT? SO IF WE WANTED DOUBLE BUFFER ZONES, IF WE WANTED TEN FOOT MASONRY WALLS, THIS IS WHERE ALL OF THAT COULD COME INTO PLAY IN TERMS OF WHERE'S THE CEMETERY ON THE BIG SIDE, IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE. IT'S DIFFERENT. THAT'S IT'S NOT IN THIS DISTRICT. IT'S ON NUMBER NINE. OKAY. SEVEN, SEVEN. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS WHERE THE EVENT CENTER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
THIS IS THE METRO CAR GARAGE. CEMETERY IS OVER HERE. OKAY, I GOT MINE. MY MAP GOING HERE NOW, I THINK I THINK AS LONG AS WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE ONCE. I LIKE YOUR IDEA ABOUT LEAVING IT TO THE LEFT, MAYBE MAKING THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. BUT THEN IT ALSO WILL DEPEND ON HOW SOON WATER CAN GET THERE. AND THAT MIGHT BE 20 YEARS FROM NOW. WE WON'T EVEN BE HERE AT THIS TIME.
BUT IN TERMS OF AT LEAST ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE MAP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS LONG AS WE
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CAN CARVE INTO THE DETAILS WITH WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE GO THERE AND HOW IT WOULD WORK TO PEEL BACK TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH COVERAGE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE OKAY. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WITH THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S A STATE AND CHARACTER AS WELL.THAT'S JUST BEHIND THE NEW MCDONALD'S ON HIGHWAY SIX. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY SUFFERED FROM THAT AS WELL. SO IF WE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY THIS TIME TO GET IT RIGHT, I THINK THIS WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZE THE COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR I JUST WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. HOW MANY ACRES ARE IN THAT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF OUR NOTES RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN WE CAN PULL THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. ALSO, ON THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES THAT I THAT ARE LISTED, THE PROPOSED LAND USE, WHAT WOULD THAT PROPOSED USE BE? LAND USE BE I MEAN, FOR WHAT SPECIFICALLY A PARK OR NO. AND THAT'S ALL EXISTING. I BELIEVE IT'S PART OF THE MCKEEVER ROAD RIGHT OF WAY. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ACTUAL DEVELOPABLE LAND. OKAY. AND I KNOW IN LISTENING TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO SPEAK, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE EMAILS THAT I KNOW I'VE RECEIVED, THERE WAS AN ASK FOR A PARK OR SOME SORT OF OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP IT GREEN SPACE, BUT ALSO ENHANCE FROM, YOU KNOW, WITH A PARK AREA. I, I ASSUME THAT WHEN WE WERE PROPOSING CF THAT MAYBE THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER IN SOME OF THE LAND HERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT. SO I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION AROUND THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME PARK IN THE AREA, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY AS CLOSEST TO IT, THAT'S, I GUESS, PART OF THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. WELL, THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS RIGHT NOW, ANYWAY. IS KITTY HOLLOW THE CLOSEST THING CLOSEST TO IT? AND THEN THERE ARE SOME PROPOSED THINGS IN THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, I KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT IN THIS AREA IT COULD IT COULD WORK IF WE KIND OF LOOK AT THAT FOR CONSIDERATION. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT I KNOW THAT IN LISTENING TO THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY, I THINK, 1 OR 2 SPEAKERS RELATIVE TO THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS GIVEN THROUGH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS AND HOW THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS SHARED. OF COURSE, SOME PEOPLE, THERE WERE A MYRIAD OF EMAILS THAT ARE COMING FORTH, BUT I THINK THAT I DON'T I DIDN'T SEE ANY COMPILED LIST OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND I THINK THAT NOT ONLY WITH FOCUS AREA TEN, BUT WITH ALL THE FOCUS AREAS, THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT WE SEE WHAT THE CITIZENS WHO RESPONDED ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED, SO THAT MAYBE IN OUR DECISION MAKING, IT WOULD HELP US TO SEE IF SOME OF THOSE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPILED MAKE SENSE FOR THOSE FOCUS AREAS, IF WE WANT THEM TO BE CONSIDERED. I KNOW THAT AGAIN, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EMAILS THAT WERE SENT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO READ BACK THROUGH ALL OF THOSE THINGS JUST TO PULL, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAY BE COMPILED TOGETHER. AND I DID TWO HAVE A CONVERSATION. I MEAN, A QUESTION ABOUT THE CEMETERY, BUT YOU SAID IT'S IN SEVEN, BUT I DO WANT IT TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO WHETHER IT'S WORKING WITH A THIRD PARTY OR HOWEVER WE DO IT OURSELVES, TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE FIND OUT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER BODIES REMAINS THAT ARE BURIED IN CERTAIN AREAS. BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AREA OVER THERE, I DON'T WANT US TO BE, YOU KNOW, IN A SITUATION THAT FORT BEND ISD FOUND THEMSELVES IN, IN THE CITY OF SUGAR LAND. SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO PROACTIVELY FIGURE OUT AND HAVE MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN IDENTIFY IF THERE ARE REMAINS THAT ARE IN OTHER PLACES OUTSIDE OF THE WHAT WE KNOW AS THE CEMETERY AREA. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT AS WE'RE SEEING FORT MIDTOWN CENTER THREE DEVELOPED, DEFINITELY. I'M I ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA, SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
BUT ON TOP OF THAT, THOUGH, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY. ALSO IN EACH OF THESE AREAS, FOCUS AREAS IS ASKING FOR OR DESIRING AND TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WHY HAVE THEM PARTICIPATE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THEIR THEIR THOUGHTS INTO CONSIDERATION? THANKS.
THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE? YEAH. BEFORE WE GO TO THE GENERAL, THE OTHER PART OF THE DISCUSSION, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON STAFF DIRECTION. ON THE ONE HAND, THE OTHER THAN THE MAKING SURE THAT WE ADD CLARITY
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ON THE LOCATIONS AND CLARIFYING SOME OF THE WHAT THE GATEWAY. OVERLAY MEANS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THE THREE THE TWO TAKEAWAYS I WANT TO GET CLARITY FROM THE COUNCIL ON THE FIRST BEING TO CHANGE FROM THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL ON THIS FOCUS AREA TEN ON THE SMALL SIDE AND LEAVE THE OTHER AS IS. SO JUST IF I CAN GET CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL SO THAT I WANT STAFF TO WALK AWAY WITH CLEAR DIRECTION, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL IS IN AGREEMENT WITH.THE SMALL SIDE MAKE THAT RESIDENTIAL. WHAT DO WE DO? LARGER SIZE? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? JUST SHOW OF HANDS OR JUST SHOW OF HANDS IF YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. SO WE CAN DO THAT. IS THAT A RECORDED I MEAN, CAN YOU JUST DO A MOTION. YES. JUST TRYING TO GET SOME DIRECTION. THAT'S A CONCERN. IT'S NOT A MOTION TO THERE WAS A REQUEST TO SAY TO CHANGE FROM WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED TO LEAVE THE SMALL SIDE, WHICH I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT CLOSEST TO, BUT TO LEAVE THAT RESIDENTIAL AND THEN AS REQUESTED OR AS PRESENTED BY STAFF ON THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY, LEAVE IT AS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL, LEAVE IT AS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL BY SHOW OF HANDS. WELL, I HAVE A COMMERCIAL SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL? YES. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYOR, THE CURRENT LAND USE FOR THIS ENTIRE AREA IS ESTATE RIGHT NOW, IS IT? SO THE PROPOSED LAND USE IS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. SO IT'S NOT ALREADY SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL? NO, IT'S ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT ALREADY SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. SO WE'RE. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US IS, ARE WE OKAY WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED? NO, NO. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CHANGE. ALL RIGHT. YES. ARE WE GOOD? WELL.
I'M GOOD. OH, COUNCILMEMBER RILEY, SO THE PART THAT'S THAT'S ALREADY STILL BORDERED AS A STATE CHARACTER, RESIDENTIAL RIGHT THERE. THAT'S BORDERED AS A STATE. THE OLIVE GREEN, RIGHT? YES. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. OKAY. LET ME JUST BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, OKAY. MY QUESTION IS WHERE WERE THE PINK PARTY IS ON BOTH SIDES AND BACKS UP TO WHERE IT SAYS THE STATE CHARACTER IS THE ESTATE CHARACTER. IS THERE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT THERE AT THE MOMENT THAT'S DEVELOPED AT THE MOMENT. ZONED RESIDENTIAL. THERE'S 1 OR 2 TRACKS THAT HAS A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DESIGNATION. OH, YES. WE HAVE A ZONING MAP, BUT IT'S ON THE PROPOSAL. IT'S ON SUGGESTED.
THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL MAP OR THERE'S 1 OR 2 PARCELS THAT HAVE A ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DESIGNATION, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THAT LAND IS SUBURBAN DISTRICT, MEANING A ZONING AMENDMENT HAS TO TAKE PLACE IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE DEVELOPED. SO LET ME MAKE SURE.
THIS RIGHT HERE. OKAY. IS THIS ALL ZONED RESIDENTIAL? YES, IT'S ON THE SCREEN. ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. CORRECT? I CAN'T LOOK AT THAT. AND LOOK AT THIS. YEAH. IT'S ALL IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS PART AND THIS PART IS WHAT YOU GUYS PROPOSED TO CHANGE. CHANGE TO SUBURBAN. CORRECT. COMMERCIAL. OKAY, BUT SOMEONE IS PROPOSING TO HAVE THIS RESIDENTIAL AND HAVE THIS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. CORRECT? THIS BACKS UP TO RESIDENTIAL, CORRECT? YES.
RESIDENTIAL ZONING. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND WHAT'S THE GRAY? DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS FOR A SINGLE HOUSE? SO THAT'S A SINGLE HOUSE IN THE GRAY. YES. RIGHT. SO HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? ABOUT 80. BUT AGAIN THAT IS EXISTING. CORRECT. YEAH. AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING OUR PROPOSING IS FOR A STATE CHARACTER FOR THAT PIECE OF ZONING. OKAY. SO THIS IS ALL PROPOSED. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY AS TO WHAT CAN WE GO TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. YES. WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. SO YEAH. SO THESE SLIDES ARE STATIC. SO WE ONLY HAVE THE PROPOSED. OKAY. TELL US WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT IS WHERE THE OLIVE GREEN IS TODAY.
WHAT IS THAT. WHAT IS THE VILLA. SO WHERE JENNIFER. GREEN COLOR. NO NO NO. WHAT IS THAT? TODAY
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THE CITY LIMITS LINE UNDER SOUTH OF THAT CITY LIMITS. LINE THEIR HOMES THAT ARE DEVELOPED IN THE CITY'S ETJ. IS THAT THE RED? THE RED DOTTED LINE IS THE CITY LIMITS. SO SOUTH OF THAT THERE ARE EXISTING HOMES. SO THAT'S NOT CITY LIMIT SOUTH SOUTH OF THAT RED DOTTED LINE. THIS IS CITY LIMITS. THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE. OKAY. SO YOU SEE THAT DOT RIGHT UP RIGHT ABOVE THAT. SO YEAH. YEAH. SO ALL OF THAT. IS CITY LIMITS ITS CITY. AND SO IN THAT AREA CAN SOMEONE THROUGH THE USE THE CURSOR TO SHOW WHAT, WHERE THE CITY LIMIT IS TODAY.OKAY. SO THIS THIS RED DOTTED LINE IS THE CITY LIMITS. EVERYTHING ABOVE THAT RED DOTTED LINE IS THE LAND INSIDE THE CITY. OKAY. EVERYTHING SOUTH OF IT IS ETJ. OKAY. YOUR LAND USE CHARACTER IS GOING TO BE CITY IN ETJ, RIGHT? YOUR ZONING IS JUST CITY, RIGHT? SO ON THE CITY SIDE RIGHT NOW. SO BASICALLY SO BASICALLY WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT RED LINE DOTTED LINE. RIGHT. FOR IMPLEMENTATION PURPOSES IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S DOTTED LINE AND GOING TOWARDS UP. RIGHT OKAY. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS WHAT IS THAT TODAY. ALL OF THAT. SO THE ONLY REAL DEVELOPMENT IS THIS LARGE ABOUT 80 ACRE PROPERTY TO THE WEST. AND I BELIEVE THERE'S LIKE A SINGLE HOME OR SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S THERE. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE OUT IN THIS AREA IS NOT DEVELOPED. SO THAT MEANS THERE'S NO ZONING? NO, THERE IS ZONING, THE ZONING. SO THERE'S ZONING. WHAT IS IT? SO YEAH. SO THIS IS THE SAME. SO THIS IS THE ZONING MAP BUT THIS IS SUGGESTED. SO HERE'S THE CITY LIMITS LINE. AND SO THIS IS THAT 80 APPROXIMATELY 80 ACRE PIECE. IT'S ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OKAY. THE PIECE TO THE EAST OF IT, THE YELLOW IS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S OUT OF THE ETJ LINE. RIGHT. NO. THIS YELLOW PIECE HERE IS INSIDE THE CITY.
INSIDE. THAT'S INSIDE THE CITY. AND WHAT'S SO THAT'S EXISTING TODAY? NOT PROPOSED. RIGHT. THIS IS EXISTING. THESE TWO ZONES ARE EXISTING TODAY. EXISTING. SO WHAT'S ABOVE THAT? NOW ABOVE THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE SOME SUBURBAN DISTRICT, SOME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS LARGE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT'S HERE. OKAY. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, THE MAJORITY OF THAT LAND IS SUBURBAN DISTRICT. OKAY. SO UNDER THE SUBURBAN DISTRICT THAT YOU CAN HAVE ANY, ANY COMMERCIAL. CORRECT. SO THE SUBURBAN DISTRICT AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THE SUBURBAN DISTRICT IS ONE CLASSIFICATION WHEN LAND ZONED OR WHEN IT'S ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, THAT REQUIRES ZONING BEFORE YOU'RE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL, NONRESIDENTIAL, IT REQUIRES ZONING. OKAY. SO A LOT OF THIS AREA IS CLASSIFIED AS SINGLE AS SUBURBAN DISTRICTS. OKAY. SO TODAY SOMEONE COMES OVER THERE AND BUYS THAT SMALL RED PIECE. THE ENTIRETY OF THAT SMALL RED PIECE. WHAT CAN THEY DO THEN TODAY THEY WOULD THEY WOULD HAVE TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT, REZONE IT FROM TO WHAT? AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THAT POLICY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOUR POLICY FOR THAT AREA IS A STATE CHARACTER. OKAY. AND WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS UNDER THAT CHARACTER OKAY. SO I BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY UNDER THE ESTATE CHARACTER. WHAT CAN I BUILD THERE? SO THE STATE CHARACTER WOULD THEN BE A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT OKAY. AND SO RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE LIKE THE R SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH WOULD BE A LARGE LOT WITH, YOU KNOW, LARGE SETBACK WITH ONE WITH ONE DWELLING OR MULTIPLE DWELLING. SO YOU HAVE LOT SIZES. SO USUALLY IT'S MINIMUM ONE ACRE OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS TODAY. RIGHT. WELL THE ZONING THE ZONING IS NOT THAT THE WHOLE ZONING THERE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THAT. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ZONED TO THAT. BUT THE POLICY GUIDANCE FOR REZONING, IT WOULD BE THAT IF THAT MAKES SENSE, IT REALLY DOESN'T. BUT BUT IT'S OKAY. BUT WHAT I'M WHAT I'M SAYING IS. SO HOW DOES THE HOW DID THE IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN HOW WAS IT THAT THE EVENT CENTER WAS SUPPOSED TO PROPOSE IT? BECAUSE IF THEY WERE TO COME, THEY WERE COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO ASK FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO CREATE IT INTO A SUBURBAN DISTRICT, INTO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, INTO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO INTO A PD TO CREATE THAT. RIGHT? WELL, TO CREATE NOT TO CREATE THAT NOT TO CREATE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR THE USAGE OF THE LAND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE FOR THE
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EVENT CENTER. RIGHT. A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR THOSE PARTICULAR. YES. SO THE ENTIRETY OF THAT AREA, WHAT YOU'RE NOW SAYING LEFT SIDE AND RIGHT SIDE OF KNIGHT ROAD IN THAT PARTICULAR REGION THAT YOU'RE SAYING IS SUBURBAN DISTRICT CORRECT OR WHAT? WHAT WAS THE OTHER TITLE? WHERE'S YOUR PROPOSED? SO ON THE LAND USE SIDE RIGHT. LAND USE SIDE RIGHT.SO YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT THIS NOW THAT WHOLE PARK IS GOING TO BE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. YES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. RIGHT. SO ONCE THAT GETS PAST LET'S SAY IT GETS ADOPTED. THAT MEANS THAT ANYONE CAN COME IN THERE AND PUT A COMMERCIAL IN ON BOTH SIDES, CORRECT WITH PARAMETERS. SO NOT THE NOT THE LARGE SCALE WITH PARAMETERS. I GET IT. NOW. CAN SOMEONE COME IN THERE AND PUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN THAT DEPENDING ON HOW THAT. SO EVEN THOUGH EVEN THOUGH IT'S ADOPTED AS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TOMORROW, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AND PUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, CAN THEY DO IT TOMORROW? UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, LET'S SAY, JENNIFER, PRETEND I WANT YOU TO PRETEND FOR ME. PRETEND THIS GOT PASSED. RIGHT. SO SOMEONE BOUGHT THIS. CAN THEY PUT SINGLE FAMILY INTO A SUBURB? THIS WOULD SUGGEST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. SO THE PRIMARY FOCUS WOULD BE NONRESIDENTIAL. SO JUST A STRAIGHT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WOULD NOT BE THE PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT TYPE UNDER WHAT THE CITY IS OR THE CONSULTANT. AND YOU GUYS WORK TOGETHER. WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING UNDER THAT YOU CANNOT PUT SINGLE FAMILY. THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW JUST FOR A STRAIGHT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. CORRECT. SO WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS TO TAKE THAT PIECE, TO PUT IT UNDER SINGLE FAMILY. AND IF YOU DO IT THAT WAY, THEN ONLY SINGLE FAMILY CAN GO ON THAT SITE. CORRECT? RIGHT. AND I THINK TO WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM WAS SAYING ABOUT THE BUFFERS, THE BUFFERS FOR THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL SO THAT YOU'RE NOT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, HOMES THAT ARE CLOSE, YOU KNOW, TO EACH OTHER AND PAVING OVER A LOT OF THE AREA. SO IF WE WERE TO CREATE THAT PORTION OF NIGHT OF THAT SMALLER PART OF THE RED OR PINK SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL.
CORRECT, THEN THAT YOU CAN HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE HOMES. I MEAN, YOU WON'T HAVE 40 FOOT LOTS. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CHARACTERIZED INTO WHATEVER THAT YOU WANT IT FOR THAT PORTION, RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
GOT IT. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER. RIGHT. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM RAMOS OKAY. OKAY.
JENNIFER, JUST FOR CLARITY, CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, THE LAND IS ZONED A STATE CHARACTER.
CORRECT. LAND USE CHARACTER. LAND USE CHARACTER. OKAY. WHAT IS IT, ZONE OR WHAT IS IT CALLED? THE ZONING IS SUBURBAN DISTRICT RESIDENTIAL AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. OKAY. IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GO IN TODAY. NOT WITH WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO PUT IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WOULD THEY HAVE TO REZONE IT? SO THE TWO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, THE 80 ACRE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THAT PD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR, AS A SUBDIVISION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. OKAY. HOLD ON. DO YOU KNOW OR RECALL WHAT'S INSIDE OF THAT CURRENT PD? YES. OKAY. NEVER MIND. I JUST GOT THE SIDE EYE FROM THE ATTORNEY. NEVER MIND. ALL RIGHT. I YIELD. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. ONE MORE I SIGNED UP IF THE ESTATES OF SILVER RIDGE WANTED EXTENT, LET'S JUST SAY EXTEND IT TO LOOK LIKE ESTATES OF SILVER RIDGE, MEANING I ACRE LOT WITH HOMES IN IT. WOULD THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. IF YOU ZONE THAT LITTLE SMALL AREA WHICH IS ATTACHED TO ESTATES OF SILVER RIDGE, WOULD THAT BE A WOULD? IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO IT, WOULD THAT BE ALLOWED? SO I THINK THE ISSUE WOULD BE HOW UTILITIES WOULD SERVE. I GET THE UTILITY PART BECAUSE UTILITY TODAY IN ESTATES OF SILVER RIDGE HAS SEPTIC TANKS. CORRECT. AND THEY HAVE WELL WATER. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE SAYING IF YOU ZONE THAT LITTLE PORTION THAT'S ATTACHED TO ESTATES OF SILVER BRIDGE UNDER SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL,
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RIGHT, WHICH MAYOR PRO TEM SAID WOULD WOULD ALLOW YOU NOT TO HAVE HOMES THAT ARE 40 FOOT RIGHT NEXT DOOR. RIGHT, OR 50 FOOT OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU CAN HAVE HALF ACRE OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT ALL YOU'RE SAYING IS THE THERE WON'T BE NO SEPTIC TANKS, NO WATER. WELL, BUT IT WOULD BE CITY UTILITIES, RIGHT? PART OF THAT. RIGHT. BUT IT WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE TO BASICALLY DUPLICATE WHAT ESTATES OF SILVERBRIDGE LOOK LIKE ON THAT PIECE UNDER SUBURBAN, COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL. I MEAN, SORRY, SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, BUT IF IT'S JUST RESIDENTIAL, ANYONE CAN COME IN AND PUT 150 HOMES IN THAT LITTLE PIECE. IF IT'S IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL, IT'S AUTO ORIENTED RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT GOES TO SMALLER LOTS SMALLER LOTS. RIGHT. BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT IF IT'S A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL WITH THE WATER DRAINAGE GIVING ALL OF THAT, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PUT, YOU KNOW, 100 HOMES, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO PUT 25 HOMES, LET'S JUST SAY, OR 20 HOMES. BUT NO ONE CAN COME TOMORROW. ONCE THAT'S ZONED THAT WAY, COME IN AND SAYING, I WANT TO PUT AN EVENT CENTER OR I WANT TO PUT A GAS STATION, OR I WANT TO PUT A STRIP CENTER IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO REZONE IT OUT FROM SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL TO SOMETHING ELSE, IT WOULD NOT BE A PERMITTED USE, AND IT WOULDN'T BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE VISION THAT YOU'VE CREATED. VISION. SO THEN MY SUGGESTION I WOULD REPHRASE. MY SUGGESTION IS TO CREATE THAT PORTION TO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AND SEE. AND SO THAT WAY AT LEAST THERE'S THAT PROTECTION OF HAVING NOT THOSE 40 OR 50 FOOT LOTS AND ALLOWING THAT AREA TO PERHAPS MAYBE TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO COME IN AND CREATE AN ACREAGE. SO IT KIND OF FITS THE CHARACTER OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S THERE WHILE PROTECTING IT. AND THEN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD, I GET IT. THERE'S YOU GOT METRO CAR GARAGE, YOU GOT OTHER STUFF COMING. SO THAT WOULD BE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL ON THAT SIDE. BUT AT LEAST ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, IT WOULD BE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER. BOY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY MANAGER, I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FOR ME. I DON'T SUPPORT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL AS PRESENTED, BUT I DO WANT TO RECEIVE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS AND SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS PROPOSED SUGGESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE, SEEING IF I COULD GET THAT TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY MAY BE RECOMMENDED OR SUGGESTED, AND THEN I'LL BE PREPARED TO MAKE A SUGGESTION AS TO WHAT YOU KNOW. I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE REQUESTS FOR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M TAKING ALL THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, I THINK THAT I'LL HAVE TO SAY I'M, I'M, I'M A NO ON THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. AND LET ME JUST BE CLEAR, THIS IS JUST SO THAT WE KNOW WHETHER WE NEED TO CHANGE THE INFORMATION OR NOT. THIS DOES THIS IS NOT A DECISION TO GO WITH THAT. WE STILL HAVE A WHOLE PLANNING AND ZONING TO GO THROUGH MORE PUBLIC INTERACTION. SO THIS IS JUST TO GET CLARITY. SO WE KNOW IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THESE SLIDES TO REFLECT SOMETHING DIFFERENT OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION. THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST GIVING YOU MY SIMPLE ANSWER OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER RILEY. OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO POINT AT THE SCREEN. SO I HAVE A MAJOR CONCERN BECAUSE YOU SAID THIS IS PD, RIGHT. AND THIS IS RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN THE SUGGESTION WAS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. AND NOW THE SUGGESTION FOR THIS ONE IS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. AND MY QUESTION IS WHY WOULD WE HAVE THIS AS PD AND THIS RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS COULD BE ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL BACKED UP TO RESIDENTIAL THAT SEEMS OPPOSITE TO ME. SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT? BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT RESIDENTIAL TO BE MATCHED UP WITH RESIDENTIAL BACKING UP VERSUS I THINK WHAT THIS IS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAND UP. ARE YOU DOING GOOD AT THE POINT AND YOU'RE AGREEING GOES WITH THAT OLIVE. BUT BUT NO, I THINK THAT FROM A LET ME JUST PUT SOME SOME PARAMETERS AROUND STAFF'S CHARGE, WE WOULD CHARGE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAXIMIZE ALL THE AVAILABLE LAND THAT REMAINS IN THE CITY. THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO TRY TO REDUCE THE IMPACT ON CURRENT TAXPAYERS BY TRYING TO DIVERSIFY OUR OFFERING IN TERMS OF[02:40:06]
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR SALES TAXES. SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, AND ALL THE VARIOUS PRIORITIES, WE HEARD THE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HEARD THE FEEDBACK, BUT ULTIMATELY, IN BALANCING THE PRIORITIES AND THINKING FUTURE, WHAT IS GOING TO PUT US IN THE BEST POSITION TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE RATIO ON WHAT OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS ARE PAYING IN PROPERTY TAXES. SO THAT BEING SAID, WE LOOKED AT THE COMMERCIAL, SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL AND SAID WE COULD CREATE BUFFERS AND REQUIREMENTS AROUND THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE TO ANY RESIDENTIAL OR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THERE. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THE PREMISE OF WHY YOU SEE US TALKING OR OR PROPOSING MIXED USE WITH PARAMETERS. AND I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WITH PARAMETERS, IT'S NOT THE NORMAL THAT YOU SEE TODAY. IF IT'S LC ONE, YOU CAN DO THIS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BY RIGHT OR LC THREE REQUIRES THIS. YOU WOULD PUT PARAMETERS AS, AS OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER SAID IT'S LIKE A PD. YOU'RE YOU'RE DESIGNING YOUR THE CITY'S PD OVER THESE PROPERTIES. SO WHERE WE CAN PUT SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS IN THERE TO GET US WHAT WE DESIRE. AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE COMMERCIAL. AND I GET THAT MY QUESTION WAS WHY IS IT MISMATCH BASICALLY WAS I DID YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SAYING WITH YOU HAVE THIS SIDE YOU'RE SAYING IS WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, RECLASSIFY IT AS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. BUT THE PROPERTY THAT BACKS UP TO THAT ONE RIGHT UNDERNEATH IT IS RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN YOU GO TO THE SMALLER PINK SIDE. WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CLASSIFY IT AS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. BUT RIGHT BELOW THAT, THAT PROPERTY THAT IS RIGHT UNDERNEATH THAT IS PD. AND LET ME TRY TO ANSWER THAT, COUNCILMEMBER, AS YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION, JENNIFER, CAN YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT IN THOSE GREEN AREAS THAT COUNCILMEMBER RILEY IS TALKING ABOUT, IS THERE A SUBDIVISION OR A HOME THERE TODAY? RIGHT. SO IN THIS AREA HERE, THERE'S NO JOB RIGHT IN THIS AREA HERE THERE'S A HOME, PER SE. ONE HOME IN THAT WHOLE, WITHIN THIS WHOLE. AND THE ZONING BOARD ONLY ALLOWS FOR THAT. IT DOESN'T. SO THE ONE THAT COUNCILMEMBER RILEY IS TALKING ABOUT TO THE THAT. YEAH.RIGHT THERE WHERE THE CURSOR IS, THERE'S NOT A SINGLE HOME BACK THERE. THERE'S NOTHING DEVELOPED THERE. I'M SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OF WHY THE PINK IS WHERE IT IS AND WHY THE GREEN IS WHERE IT IS. THE PINK IS ALONG THE MAJOR ROADWAY CORRIDORS. AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU EARLIER, WE HAVE WHAT'S PLANTATION ROADWAY THAT'S PLANNED TO CONNECT FROM THE WEST SECTION OF WHAT'S PLANTATION NIGHTS POTENTIALLY AROUND ABOUT IN THE FUTURE. AND TO THE EAST, WHAT'S PLANTATION? SO THAT IS WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER, WHICH IS THE ESTATE CHARACTER SOUTH OF YOUR COMMERCIAL CHARACTER. SO HOPE THAT ANSWERS WHY WE ARE POSITIONING IT THE WAY IT IS. IT DOES. MY CONCERN IS WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO THERE? ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THAT THAT PARTICULAR TAN? IT LOOKS TAN TO ME. THAT SECTION DOWN THERE AS RESIDENTIAL, IS IT GOING TO REMAIN WITH THAT CLASSIFICATION? THE YEAH, THE LAND USE CATEGORY WOULD KEEP IT GOING. BUT THAT'S AGAIN THAT'S UP TO US. IT'S NOT THAT. WELL I MEAN THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP IT KEEP IT AS THAT. SO BUT TO YOUR POINT YOU TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT SIDE THAT COUNCILMEMBER RILEY WAS TALKING ABOUT SINCE THERE'S NO HOME THERE TODAY. WHAT I HEARD THE CITY MANAGER TALK ABOUT IS KEEPING SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL ON THAT SIDE CLOSER TO WHAT AND WHAT'S AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO HIGHWAY SIX, KEEPING RESIDENTIAL ON THAT SIDE. YOU'RE SAYING THERE COULD BE, BECAUSE TODAY THERE'S NOTHING THERE. IF IT WAS HOMES THERE, THEN THAT I COULD SEE THAT ISSUE. RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU COULD PUT A BIGGER BUFFERS OR YOU CAN ADD INTO IT IF IT'S GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL THING. SO MY POINT IN SAYING WITH ESTATES IS SILVER RIDGE IS THERE. SO IT IS THERE TODAY. SO TO HAVE A SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL ATTACHED ALMOST TO THE BACK END WALL UP THERE, THAT BECAUSE NONE OF THOSE OTHER AREAS YOU HAVE HOMES THERE EXCEPT FOR WHERE
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YOU'RE SHOWING SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL CLOSER TO ESTATES OF SILVER RIDGE IS WHY I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST KEEP IT UNDER A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT ALLOWS BIGGER FOOT LOTS AND NOT KEEP IT AS A COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE THE MINUTE YOU KEEP IT AS A COMMERCIAL, THAT'S ALL IT'S GOING TO. SOMEONE'S GOING TO COME IN AND TAKE IT AND REDEVELOP IT. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON I WAS SUGGESTING. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE RESIDENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITIES AND HOAS AND THEN HAVE MORE DISCUSSION.SO YOU JUST KIND OF WANT TO GET IDEAS FROM US. AS TO NOW, ONE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS THE RIGHT SIDE. YOU KEPT SOME OF IT AS RESIDENTIAL. WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT PROCESS EXTENDING THAT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CITY, CITY CITY LIMIT LINE TODAY? AND WE WE'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSION. OKAY. BUT I WOULD SAY I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WITH THE. REALITY OF AVAILABILITY OF RETAIL SPACE AND UTILITY SERVICE EXTENSION IS MORE PROBABLE, PROBABLE CLOSER TO THE TOWN CENTER. THREE AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING IN THE AREA. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S PLAYING INTO SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I WOULD ADD, MAYOR, AS YOU GO SOUTH THERE, IT IS MORE ENCUMBERED BY WETLANDS AND FLOODPLAINS. AND IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT. SO I WOULD JUST END IT WITH THIS COMMENT.
HOLD ON. HOW CAN WE I WOULD JUST END MY COMMENT WITH WHAT SAYING YOU HAVE CREEK BOND, YOU HAVE LAKE OLYMPIA, YOU HAVE ALL THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT GETS BUILT OUT. THEN THEY LEAVE YOU THIS COMMERCIAL SPACE. AND WHOEVER BACKS UP TO THAT COMMERCIAL SPACE IS A DOG FIGHT. WHENEVER IT'S TRYING TO DEVELOP IT. IN THIS SITUATION HERE YOU HAVE THAT SMALL PINK. LET'S CONSIDER THAT AS ONE, THE LARGER PINK TWO. AND THEN THE DOWN THERE IS THREE AND FOUR. RIGHT. SO ONLY AREA THAT I SEE AS HOMES THAT'S NOT THAT'S ALREADY BUILT IS THAT SMALL PORTION. SO EVERYWHERE ELSE WHAT YOU DO TODAY, IF IT'S ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY AND YOU HAVE YOU CAN GET INTO BUFFERS AND ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT TO THE ESTATES OF SILVER BRIDGE, CLOSER TO THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TODAY, BECAUSE I WISH WHOEVER BUILT THAT WOULD TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO KNIGHT ROAD AND FINISH IT OFF WITH A BRICK BACK, YOU KNOW, BACK FENCE OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THE CASE IS THEY KIND OF LEFT A PIECE OF THAT, A RECTANGLE PIECE THAT'S HANGING OUT THERE. AND THEN THE KNIGHT ROAD EXTENSION CAME RIGHT THROUGH THERE, AND THAT'S LEAVING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY ALWAYS, ALWAYS GOING TO BE FOR SOMEONE TO PUT WHATEVER THEY WANT TO PUT. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS MAKING THAT SUGGESTION.
THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION. AND GIVEN THAT AND GIVEN THE GREAT DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD, AND I ANTICIPATE MORE GREAT DISCUSSION FROM PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL AS FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHY DON'T WE JUST LEAVE IT AS IS? WE TAKE THE NOTES, WE'LL WE RECORD THE NOTES THAT WE'RE GETTING, AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL, WE'LL INCORPORATE ALL THE NOTES THAT WE'RE HEARING. OKAY. LAST PERSON I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A LARGE DRAINAGE CANAL HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT GOOGLE EARTH. SO THAT'S A NATURAL BUFFER BETWEEN THESE TWO. AND WHEN IT COMES OVER HERE IT CURVES AROUND ALL THIS BIG. THIS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS BUFFERED BY A BIG DETENTION OR SOME NATURAL DRAINAGE. I'M NOT SURE, BUT THERE'S WATER HERE. SO THEY'VE GOT THESE BEAUTIFUL NATURAL DIVIDES ON THESE PROPERTIES. SO IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE SORT OF THE BOUNDARIES THERE. BUT SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. LET'S GO TO 11. DO WE HAVE 11 FOLKS. WE ARE DONE WITH THE CORRIDOR. SO WE NOT MAKING NO DIRECTION? NO. I THINK WE'LL JUST KEEP GETTING FEEDBACK AT THIS POINT AND JUST NOT WE'LL MAKE THE. WE'LL MAKE IT CLEAR AND I'LL GO CHANGE IT. NO, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT AT ALL. WE'LL KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE FEEDBACK WILL MAKE THE CHANGES OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING RIGHT. WELL WE HAVE JUST ONE MORE THAT WE WANTED TO GET COUNCIL FEEDBACK ON. IT'S NOT CORRIDOR RELATED BUT IT IS THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES LAND USE CHARACTER AND WANTED TO RECEIVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL IN TERMS OF LOCATION POLICY TO ESTABLISH IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO CHILDCARE FACILITIES, ASSEMBLY USES AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND JUST FOR COUNCIL CHILDCARE FACILITIES IN
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PARTICULAR. LOCATION REQUIREMENTS. BECAUSE WE DO AS FAMILY ORIENTED COMMUNITY, WE RECEIVE A LOT OF INTEREST FOR CHILDCARE FACILITIES. RIGHT NOW, IT'S PROHIBITED IN MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTERS, INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT BUSINESSES THAT SHARE PARKING, SHARE DRIVEWAYS.WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT AREA. AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO ENGAGE THE COUNCIL IS DISCUSSION ON WHETHER THERE'S A DESIRE TO REVISIT SOME OF THOSE REGULATIONS AND CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO SOME OF THOSE REGULATIONS, OR IF THAT POSITION STILL REMAINS, ONE THING I DO WANT TO PUT OUT THERE, WE DID LOOK AT SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, STAFFORD, SUGARLAND AND RICHMOND, AND WE ARE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO A CHILDCARE LOCATIONS. AND SO JUST KEEPING THAT IN MIND, IN TERMS OF WHEN BUSINESSES APPROACH THE CITY ABOUT LOCATIONS, THEY'RE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE RULES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, ARE SIMILAR HERE. SO WE JUST WANTED TO RECEIVE SOME FEEDBACK THERE. BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PUT SOME POLICY IN THE PLAN IN TERMS OF LOCATION, EXPECTATIONS, REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE USES. SO YOU ASKING US TO DISCUSS AND GIVE FEEDBACK. TODAY AND THEN WHAT WE'RE ASKING IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT THE SAME OR IF YOU'RE OPEN TO FOR US TO BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. IF YOU'RE WANTING TO KEEP IT THE SAME, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION NEEDED. OKAY. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER CLAWSON, YES, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, WHY WAS, I GUESS, WHY WERE THE ORDINANCES CREATED OR THE ZONING? WHY WAS THE ZONING CREATED TO NOT ALLOW CHILDCARE FACILITIES IN, I GUESS, THE SHOPPING CENTERS? SO WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE? I GUESS SAFETY SAFETY HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT'S BEEN CITED. OKAY. AND THOSE DIFFERENT CONFLICT POINTS WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE TRAVELING THROUGH SHOPPING CENTERS FOR OTHER BUSINESS CONFLICTING WITH, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN AND PARENTS GOING BACK AND FORTH TO THE CENTERS. OKAY. AND SO WHY TODAY, IF YOU SAID YOU'VE GOTTEN INTEREST, WHY TODAY IS THIS COMING BEFORE US? SO, BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY RESPONDING TO SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WHERE WE HAVE SEVERAL FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT LOOK AT DIFFERENT INTEGRATED BUSINESS DEVELOPMENTS, AND THOSE ARE THOSE THOSE MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS WHERE THERE MAY BE ANOTHER ONE OTHER TENANT, THERE MAY BE MULTIPLE THAT SHARE A DRIVEWAY. THEY SHARE, YOU KNOW, UNIFIED PARKING THAT THESE CHILDCARE LOCATIONS ARE LOOKING TO LOCATE. AND SO INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, COMING BEFORE YOU ALL AS INDIVIDUAL CASES AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE POSITION IS, IS THAT THEY'RE PROHIBITED. IT'S REALLY RELOOKING AT THOSE RULES. AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S STILL THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL IN THE COMMUNITY. OKAY.
SO LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I WOULD I IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO US, AND IF THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE DOING IT RIGHT, IF CONSIDERING SAFETY IS AN ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE CERTAIN PARAMETERS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE TO ENSURE SAFETY. SO IF, IF, IF WE IF WE DO HAVE YOU COME FORTH, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE ESTABLISHED TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN. IF WE DO AMEND THE ORDINANCE. AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER OUDERKIRK. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY IS ON MY PLATE. NOT ONLY HAS IT IMPACTED DISTRICT C BUSINESSES, BUT WE THE STATE AS A WHOLE, THE NATION AS A WHOLE IS LOSING CHILD CARE FACILITIES LEFT AND RIGHT. THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE TO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TO RETAIN BUSINESSES, THEY HAVE TO HAVE EMPLOYEES. EMPLOYEES WANT AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE NEAR THEIR WORK, NOT NECESSARILY WHERE THEY'RE WHERE WHERE THEY LIVE. SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT. AND IT'S MUCH, MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE TO HAVE CHILD CARE IN A STRIP CENTER OR SOMEWHERE WITH SHARED WALLS THAN IN A FREESTANDING FACILITY. SO I'M 100% BEHIND REVISITING THIS. THANK YOU.
RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU MAYOR. I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF YOU ALL. BRINGING IT BACK. I DO WANT TO ASK A QUESTION ON THE ASSEMBLY, CONSIDERING THE, I GUESS, LAWS IN PLACE ABOUT. I GUESS IF THEY TRY TO AND WE CAN'T DENY THEM, I GUESS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN AND HOW THIS WOULD, YOU KNOW, IMPACT WHETHER IF THEY WANT TO BE IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION, YOU KNOW IT SAYS HERE INCLUDE POLITICS, POLICY, GUIDANCE ON APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO HOW CAN WE CONTROL THAT? THERE ARE MULTIPLE TYPES OF PLACES OF ASSEMBLY. SO AS IT
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RELATES TO SPECIFIC REQUESTS, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE UP THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION IN WHICH I CAN PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH LEGAL ADVICE AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON THOSE SPECIFIC MATTERS AS IT RELATES TO ASSEMBLY USES IN GENERAL. ASSEMBLY USES IN GENERAL DO REQUIRE CERTAIN TRAFFIC, CERTAIN CERTAIN NECESSITIES AS IT RELATES TO INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT CAN BE CONSIDERATIONS AND OUR CONSIDERATIONS AS IT RELATES TO ZONING. A HUGE PART OF LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS IS LOOKING AT THOSE PLANS IN PLACE, WHICH DO INCLUDE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS AND STUDIES THAT THE CITY HAS. SO IN TERMS OF ASSEMBLY USES IN GENERAL, IT IS CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC PATTERNS, TRAFFIC IMPACT AND INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. WHEN YOU ALL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IN TERMS OF YOUR GUIDANCE DOCUMENTATION, IF YOU'RE SPECIFIC, SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC CASE, AGAIN THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IN A CLOSED SESSION, IT WAS PLACES OF WORSHIP. BUT I DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, PREFER TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SO THANK YOU. AND I'M ALL FOR THE TELECOMMUNICATION CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL. SO YES, PLEASE BRING IT BACK. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER RILEY, CAN YOU GO INTO MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS USES. SO THIS WOULD PROVIDE POLICY GUIDANCE. SO RIGHT NOW TOWERS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS IF THEY'RE SITING NEW LOCATIONS. AND THERE'S CERTAIN DESIGN CRITERIA THAT IS A STANDARD IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT SPEAK TO KIND OF WHERE THOSE PRIORITY AREAS OR DESIRED AREAS FOR THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES.AND WE KNOW THAT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, PART OF OUR LIFESTYLE. SO THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE. SO THIS WOULD HELP IDENTIFY KIND OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY CONSENSUS IS FOR SOME OF THE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AS IT RELATES TO THE CHILDCARE FACILITIES I'M AT, BASED ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF REVISITING THAT. BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I YIELD TO THE BODY FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT. MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS BECAUSE THERE WAS PREVIOUS ATTEMPTS TO PASS PASS LEGISLATION TO MAKE CHILD ALLOW CHILD CARE FACILITIES TO BE TAX EXEMPT. THAT'S MY ONE CONCERN. IF THAT LEGISLATION EVER COMES BACK FORWARD OR GETS PASSED. AND THEN WE HAVE WE'RE INUNDATED WITH CHILD CARE FACILITIES THAT WE NO LONGER CAN COLLECT ANY TYPE OF REVENUE FROM. MY SECOND CONCERN WITH THAT IS ALLOWING CHILDCARE FACILITIES IN STRIP CENTERS. THEY CAN HAVE THEIR CHALLENGES FOR SAFETY REASONS, AND THE FACT THAT CHILDREN DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PLAY IN GREEN SPACE. AND THEN THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS WE BECOME INUNDATED WITH QUITE A FEW CHILDCARE FACILITIES IN STRIP CENTERS. SO PERSONALLY, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THEM FOR THE FACT OF THE SAFETY. AND THEN IF ANYTHING SHOULD CHANGE AND THEY BECOME TAX EXEMPT OR CHILD CARE FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, APPLY TO BE SCHOOLS THAT ARE TAX EXEMPT AND WITH THOSE BEING INSIDE OF ALL THESE STRIP CENTERS, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY THAT WOULD COME. I'M ALL FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVING AFFORDABLE AND QUALITY CHILD CARE FACILITIES. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, WE DO WE DO HAVE A LOT IN THE AREA.
BUT THOSE ARE ALSO MY CONCERNS AS WELL, IS IF FOR ANY REASON, THEY DECIDE TO BECOME PRIVATE SCHOOLS OR PUBLIC EDUCATION CENTERS THAT PROVIDE BEFORE, WHAT IS IT BEFORE AND AFTER CHILD CARE SERVICES, THEN THEY BECOME TAX EXEMPT AGAIN. SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS WITH THAT.
SO I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT. OKAY. IF I MAY, JUST A QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
THE STATE LAW DID PASS THAT ALLOWS CITIES TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT TO MAKE THEM TAX EXEMPT. SO THAT THAT DID PASS, NOT THIS PAST SESSION, BUT THE SESSION BEFORE. YOU KNOW, MY CONCERNS. SO I'M UP NEXT. SO YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT ANY CITY CAN DECIDE A CHILD CARE CENTER IS GOING TO PAY TAXES OR EXEMPT. CORRECT. THAT'S A DECISION OF THE BODY. CORRECT. NOT THE DECISION OF THE STATE LAW. THE STATE LAW JUST GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT, TO DO IT IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO CORRECT. IF THE BODY WANTS TO, IF THE BODY DOESN'T WANT TO,
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THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET TAXED. CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO BECAUSE I THINK THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS WHEN COUNCILMEMBER RILEY WAS THERE'S A STATE LAW THAT'S COMING THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY THE RIGHTS FROM US OR DAYCARES WOULD NOT BE WOULD NOT PAY ANY TAX. BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT. YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS BODY CAN GOVERN THAT AND PUT THAT INTO GUIDANCE? OKAY. SO I'M ALL FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, ESPECIALLY THE CHILD CARE FACILITY. I WAS HERE WHEN THAT VOTE WENT INTO PLACE. THERE WAS BUSINESS OWNERS THAT DID HAVE BUSINESSES IN THIS CITY. CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL BACK IN 2012 OR 20 11 OR 13, ONE OF THOSE DAYS, AND THEY FOUGHT FOR IT. WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY IS CITY MANAGER IS THAT YOU CAN LITERALLY GO TO THOSE LINES OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMIT, LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET. YOU CAN START ONE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE STRIP CENTER AND THEN BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE IN THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD IT INDEPENDENTLY. AND THIS WAS DONE JUST LIKE WE CREATE ORDINANCES LEFT AND RIGHT, JUST BASED ON THE FACT THAT 1 OR 2 PEOPLE WANT IT AND IT WAS ONE, IT WASN'T EVEN IT WAS A ONE MINOR ACCIDENT THAT CAUSED THAT STOPPED ALL THESE PUTTING INTO ALL THESE CHILDCARE FACILITIES TO BE INDEPENDENT. BUT THAT WAS GRANDFATHERED, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE HERE. SO IT'S EITHER WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE HAVE TO BE KNOWN FOR A CITY THAT WON'T ALLOW CHILD CARE FACILITIES IN THE SHOPPING CENTER, OR WE FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE STOP THESE SHOPPING CENTERS RIGHT AROUND ALL, I MEAN, COMPLETELY AROUND OUR CITY THAT'S GOING INTO OUR ETJ, WHICH THEY'RE DOING IT AND OR WHETHER WE SUPPORT THAT.CHILD CARE CENTERS ARE ONE OF THE MOST INCREASING NEED THAT'S OUT THERE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A STAFF TO LOOK AT CLOSE BY CITIES AND BRING IN SOME PROS AND CONS OF WHAT YOU GUYS FIND OUT ABOUT THOSE FACILITIES AND BRING IT BACK, AND ALSO ASSEMBLY USES. BUT TELECOMMUNICATION USES, I GUESS I AM REALLY CURIOUS TO SEE THE HEIGHT AND THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION. I MEAN, I GUESS THE INSTALLMENT OF THOSE AND WHAT'S THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS ARE CLOSE BY CITIES THEY HAVE. AND I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING TOWER OR EXISTING WATER TOWER, MEANING THE FACT THAT WHERE WE STORE WATER, THERE ARE ANTENNAS THAT CAN GO UP ON TOP OF THAT, AND THAT WOULD SERVE A FLUCTUATING AREA, RATHER THAN HAVING THESE INDIVIDUAL POSTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THEM. SO THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE DOING IT. SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR THOSE FROM YOU GUYS AS WHEN YOU BRING IT UP, WHAT CITIES HAVE THEM ON TOP OF THEIR WATER TOWER AND IT COVERS A LARGER AREA BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE FOR EVERY WATER AND NOT HAVING THESE INDIVIDUALS. AND THEN TWO, IF THESE ANTENNAS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE CITY, CAN THEY NETWORKS, WHETHER IT'S AT&T, VERIZON OR WHOEVER IT IS, CAN THEY ADD THEIR NETWORK TO THOSE EXISTING TOWERS? AND DOES THAT COVER BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING EVERY DAY FASTER THAN WE CAN IMAGINE. SO DURING A RECENT A RESEARCH THAT I LOOKED INTO, I WAS TOLD BY OTHERS THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT ANTENNAS THAT WOULD ALLOW MULTIPLE PARTS OF THE CITIES TO BE DIRECTED ONTO ONE. I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE EXPERTISE ON THAT. SO YES, THAT'S FOR ME RECOGNIZING MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. I'M FINE WITH HAVING A CONVERSATION IN REGARDS TO ALL THREE. I WOULD JUST ASK IF UNDER THE TELECOMMUNICATION USES, IF WE COULD POSSIBLY ADD ELECTRONIC BILLBOARDS TO THIS PORTION AS WELL. THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY. YEAH. CHILD CARE FACILITIES IS THE MAYOR MENTIONED THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE PUT BACK IN 2011 OR 2012, BUT AND SAFETY WAS AN ISSUE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SITTING RIGHT OUT THERE ON THE PARKING LOT PRETTY MUCH. BUT THERE WAS ALSO A REQUIREMENT THAT IT HAD TO HAVE X NUMBER OF FEET OF SPACE OF OUTSIDE PLAY AREA FOR THE KIDS, FOR THEIR, THEIR CLIENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT REQUIREMENT. AND THE I THINK THERE ALSO WAS AND IT MAY STILL BE THERE THAT IT COULDN'T BE WITHIN 250FT OF A SCHOOL OR EXCUSE ME, MAYBE IT'S A LIQUOR STORE THAT'S ALREADY THERE OR I'M NOT SURE. A VAPING SHOP BACK
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IN 2011, I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE PEOPLE WERE VAPING AT THAT POINT IN TIME. BUT ANYWAY, I THINK THERE WERE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED THAT HAD A SOUND BASIS. SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T THROW OUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE NECESSARY. BUT I AGREE, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT WE MAKE AVAILABLE TO OUR OUR CITIZENS WHO HAVE SMALL CHILDREN. THAT AND THIS IS ONE OF THE, I GUESS, THE FASTEST GROWING PRICE WISE OF EXPENSE TO OUR FAMILIES.ASSEMBLY USES. AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT AS LONG AS IT MEETS OUR TRAFFIC SURVEY STANDARDS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT PUTTING SOMETHING THAT HAS ANY A MEETING EVERY NIGHT OF 300 PEOPLE. SO I THINK LOOKING AT THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC IS THE THING THAT I SEE IS, IS IMPORTANT TELECOMMUNICATIONS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST GONE THROUGH A SCENARIO WITH TELECOMMUNICATIONS. I THINK BEING ABLE TO PUT SOME GUIDANCE AS TO THE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS LONG AS YOU KNOW THE REGULATIONS, I GUESS THE FCC REGULATIONS ALLOWS US TO MAKE SOME, APPLY SOME RESTRICTIONS, PUBLIC LAND OR NON RESIDENTIAL. I THINK THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT SOME PROPERTY OVER IN THE COMMUNITY PARK THAT WAS OUT OF THE WAY AND FURTHER AWAY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT. AND MINIMIZE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA DREW A LOT OF ATTENTION FROM A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE REALLY, I THINK, CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING IN THEIR BACKYARD AS 150FT. I DON'T CARE IF YOU PUT LIMBS ON IT OR NOT. IT'S STILL 150FT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS FROM THINGS THAT THEY FIND AS OBTRUSIVE. SO THAT'S THOSE ARE MY POINTS. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZE AND COUNCILMEMBER ODEKIRK, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS. PROP TWO IS THE PROPOSITION THAT PASSED FOR TAX EXEMPTION. BUT THAT WAS NOT GENERALLY FOR ALL CHILD CARE FACILITIES. THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE SERVING A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF UNDERSERVED YOUTH AND THOSE WHO WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF STATE FUNDING. SO THAT'S NOT AN OPEN BLANKET THING. AND AGAIN, IT IS VOTED ON BY THE CITY, BY COUNCIL. AND JUST NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE. THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL WAYS TO HAVE OUTDOOR FACILITIES AND HAVE THE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS AND THINGS. AND OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT ALL DAY LONG AND KEEPING KIDS SAFE.
SO I WOULD ASSUME AND HOPE THAT THE PARAMETERS WOULD BE THERE FOR KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE, HAPPY AND HEALTHY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? NO. JUST NEXT STEPS WILL WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS. SO WE'LL TAKE THIS CITY PLANNING AND ZONING, OPEN IT BACK UP TO THE COMMUNITY, ENGAGE THE HOA AS PART OF THAT PROCESS AS WELL. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON COMMUNICATION PLAN FOR THAT EFFECT AS WELL. AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE JOINT SESSION WITH THIS BODY AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. THE
[5. CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION]
SO THAT'S THE END OF THIS. ALL RIGHT. SO THE TIME IS 8:10 P.M. AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 55