Aug 13, 2025 Planning & Zoning Commission

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GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. I DO NOT HAVE A REPORT FOR YOU TONIGHT. I NEED

[b. Engineering]

PUBLIC COMMENT. AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR THIS PART? NOT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE WILL

[11. CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[12. RECONVENE]

[a. CONSENT AGENDA]

AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[b. Oyster Creek Farms]

REISER RELATED TO THE REQUEST TO REPLAT OYSTER CREEK FARMS ESTATE ON UNDERWOOD. SO ARE WE. OH, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, AM I OKAY? SO WE HAVE FOUND OUT AND THE STAFF HAS RECOGNIZED THAT IN ORDER TO REPLAT THIS PROPERTY, IT REQUIRES THAT AN ENGINEER SIGN OFF ON THE GROUNDWATER, ADDING A NEW WELL. SO IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS PLAT TODAY OR REPLAT, IT WOULD BE WITH THAT CONDITION. SO THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO IF HE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'LL HAVE TO GET THAT CERTIFICATION THAT IT'S OKAY TO ADD A WELL TO THIS, TO THE SECOND LOT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING. ARE WE READY? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING. OKAY. YES. AS PROVIDED. WE'RE HERE TO HEAR A REPLAT. I'M SORRY. A VARIANCE WAS APPROVED, AS STATED ON JULY 24TH BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS BOARD FOR THE USE OF THE PRIVATE WATER, AS WELL AS WASTEWATER AND DISPOSAL SYSTEM. TONIGHT, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED DUE TO THE TEXAS CODE OF 212010, THAT REQUIRES THAT A CERTIFICATION BY AN ENGINEER STATING THAT ADEQUATE GROUNDWATER IS AVAILABLE FOR THE SUBDIVISION, AND A PARKLAND DEDICATION WILL BE CONSIDERED LATER AS WELL. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? STAFF? AND WE WILL

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UNITED STATES 2212015 THAT 11 LOTS ARE WITHIN THE 200 FOOT ZONE OF THAT INTENDED CHANGE, AND YOU MUST HAVE 20% TO MAKE A LEGAL PROTEST. WE HAVE PRESENTED YOU WITH TEN OF THE 11 LOTS PROTESTING THIS DIVISION OF THE LOT. THE 11TH OWNER IS OUT OF TOWN AND DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO COMPUTER SERVICE OR INTERNET TO GET IT TO US, BUT HE IS ALSO AGAINST IT. SO IT'S 100% OF ALL LOTS WITHIN 200FT ARE AGAINST THE SUBDIVIDING OF THE LOT. THE ENGINEERING ON THIS SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY DONE IN 1977. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 34 LOTS, TWO ACRES OR THE SMALLEST OF THE LOTS. WE WERE ANNEXED BY THE CITY IN 1978, AND THE FIRST TWO HOMES, ONE OF THEM BEING MINE, WAS BUILT THAT YEAR, ALL WITH CITY PERMITS, INSPECTIONS, ETC. BUT THEN WE WERE DE-ANNEXED BECAUSE THE SCHINDLER RANCH FILED SUIT AGAINST THE CITY, CLAIMING THAT THEY HAD INVALID METES AND BOUNDS. SO WE WERE OUT OF THE CITY. DURING THAT TIME, THE DEVELOPER OF THE LAND HAD A FALLING OUT WITH HIS PARTNER. THEY VAMOOSED LEAVING US WITH PRIVATE ROADS DEEDED TO WHOEVER THEY COULD REMEMBER, OWNED LAND OUT THERE. SO THEY LEFT US WITH A ONE PAGE DEED RESTRICTION, WHICH DIDN'T EVEN GIVE US THE POWER TO COLLECT MONEY TO FIX THE ROADS. AND THEY SOLD OFF THE PROPERTY QUICKLY, MOST OF IT GOING TO INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS. SO WE'VE BEEN SLOW TO GROW OUT THERE. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 36 RESIDENTS. YOUR TIME IS UP. I HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY.

MAY SOMEONE CEDE ME THEIR TIME. YOU CAN GIVE, SIR. THANK YOU. I WE HAVE OVER 44 LOTS NOW BECAUSE OF THE SUBDIVIDING THAT TOOK PLACE WHEN WE WERE ONLY PLATTED FOR 34 WELLS AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THIS SAME BOARD NINE YEARS AGO DENIED THE SUBDIVISION OF LOTS 11 AND 12. BECAUSE OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF WELLS AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN THE SUBDIVISION. FIVE YEARS AGO, THIS SAME BOARD DENIED THE SUBDIVISION OF LOT 13. ALL BECAUSE WE'RE ON WATER AND SEPTIC TANK. NOW THE USGS, US GPS REPORT THAT WAS LAST ISSUED FOR OUR AREA, WHICH IS IN THE GALVESTON AQUIFER, WAS ON TEN FOR 23. AND THEY'VE REPORTED THAT THERE'S BEEN 40% LOSS OF GROUNDWATER IN OUR AREA OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. ALSO, WE ARE NOW WHEN WE USED TO BE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, ARE SURROUNDED BY 12 MUD DISTRICTS. ONE OF THOSE MUD DISTRICTS HAS

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SO IT RECEIVES NO WATER FROM HIGHWAY SIX. IT RECEIVES NO WATER OF DRAINAGE OF ANY KIND FROM MISSOURI CITY. AT THE BOTTOM, IT IS DAMMED SO IT NO LONGER RECEIVES WATER FROM THE RIVER. THE FIRST TIME THE LEVEE WAS COMPLETED AND THE RIVER ROSE OUTSIDE OF THE LEVEE, I CALLED LICKLIDER AND JAMESON'S. THE ENGINEERS WHO BUILT THAT LEVEE AND SAID, YOUR LEVEE LEAKS. WE HAVE RED WATER COMING INTO OUR SUBDIVISION. THEY SAID, OH, NO, IT CAN'T. I'M SORRY. MR. YOUR TIME IS UP. ANYONE ELSE? JUST A POINT OF ORDER, THOUGH. IT'S OKAY TO THAT PERSON THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP WILL CEDE THEIR TIME. BUT YOU NEED TO KEEP A TAB OF WHO THOSE PERSONS ARE.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEE YOUR TIME TO MR. SOUSA, PLEASE LET VANESSA KNOW THAT WHO YOU ARE SO THAT YOU KNOW WHO'S SEEING YOUR TIME. SO GREAT. OH, I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHO I AM. I'M LYDIA HANCOCK, AND THIS IS WILL HANCOCK. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THAT WAS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S TWO PEOPLE THAT SEE THIS A LOT. I ONLY HAD ONE.

AND THEN SHE HAD. IT WAS JUST. IT WAS JUST THE ONE THREE MINUTES. SHE HAD HER THREE MINUTES AND THREE MINUTES. SO SHE GETS THREE MINUTES FOR SOMEONE ELSE. WELL, SHE GOT WILL SHE? OKAY. GO. SHARON. OKAY. MY APOLOGIES, GENTLEMEN. SO LICKLIDER JAMESON CAME OUT AND SAID, OOPS, WE GOT RED RIVER WATER HERE. BRAZOS RIVER IS IN HERE. IT SEEMS THAT THE SPRING THAT'S BEHIND US, OR THE CREEK THAT'S BEHIND US, IS FULLY FED BY A SPRING THAT'S ALSO DRAWING ON OUR TABLE. AND SO WHAT THEY DID, THEY MUDDED ON THE CANAL ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE CREEK TO KEEP THAT SPRING FROM DRAWING ANY WATER FROM THAT SIDE OF THE LEVEE. AND SO NOW IT DRAWS ONLY ON THE TABLE IN OUR SUBDIVISION. WE ALSO ARE SEEING SUBSIDENCE. I'VE BEEN THERE 47 YEARS. I OWN THREE AND A HALF ACRES OF LAND. THE BACK HALF OF MY PROPERTY, WHICH IS A PASTURE, NOW, HAS SEVERAL LOW SPOTS IN IT THAT RETAIN WATER. I USED TO NOT HAVE THAT. OTHER MEMBERS AND PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE SUBDIVISION FOR QUITE SOME TIME, ARE SEEING SUBSIDENCE ON THEIR PROPERTIES.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS SUBDIVIDING OF THE LOT, YOU'RE LEAVING US WIDE OPEN TO FURTHER SUBDIVIDING OF THE LOTS. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT MANY LOTS IN THERE WITH THAT MANY WATER WELLS. SEPTIC TANKS HAVE COME A LONG WAY AND THEY'RE REALLY NOT AS BIG AN ISSUE. BUT THE WATER IS. WE'VE ALREADY HAD FOUR WELLS WHICH HAD TO PUT DOWN DEEPER PIPES. THAT MEANS THAT THE WATER THEY WERE ALREADY IN IS NOW TURNED SANDY, DIRTY. THEY HAVE TO GO DEEPER INTO THE TABLE, WHICH TELLS US THE TABLES ARE FALLING. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LET ANY MORE WELLS COME INTO THE SUBDIVISION, EXCEPT FOR THOSE WELLS THAT ARE GRANDFATHERED. AND THERE ARE EIGHT OF THOSE VACANT LOTS IN OUR SUBDIVISION. THIS IS ONE OF THEM. I KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU ARE VOLUNTEERS, AND THIS IS YOUR PERSONAL TIME THAT YOU GIVE UP TO BE HERE. I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH, BUT I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU SERVE ON THIS BOARD UNDER AN OATH THAT SAYS YOU CAN DO NO

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MY NAME IS TARA. I AM A 50 YEAR RESIDENT OF MISSOURI CITY AND A 30 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT OF OYSTER CREEK FARMS. I'M MARRIED TO HER OLDEST SON. FIRST OF ALL, MY HOUSE FALLS WITHIN THE 200FT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY I WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THIS. NOBODY HAS AN ANSWER. HOW MANY OTHER NEIGHBORS WERE NOT NOTIFIED THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING? THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. OKAY. THEN WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THREE AND CONSIDER THE STAFF.

THE STAFF REPORT AT THIS POINT BEFORE WE COVER ITEM TWO. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TAKEN OUT OF ORDER. OKAY I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. TAKE IT OUT OF ORDER.

I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, ITEM THREE. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF OYSTER CREEK FARMS ESTATES ON UNDERWOOD REPLAT NUMBER ONE. SO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, COMMISSIONER? I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. OKAY. FOR THE AUDIENCE'S INFORMATION, ITEM TWO WAS TO APPROVE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR THIS REPLAT TO HAPPEN. BUT I WOULD RATHER COVER THE REPLAT ITSELF FIRST AND THEN DEAL WITH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AS NEEDED. SO I WILL SAY TAKING THE REPLAT FIRST. STAFF HAS PRESENTED A REPORT WITH ONE CONDITION AND THE CONDITION AS READ ABOUT THE CERTIFICATION FOR GROUNDWATER. IF A PARKLAND DEDICATION HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION ON THE REPORT, EVEN THOUGH ON THE SAME AGENDA YOU'LL CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A PARKLAND DEDICATION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO JUST TO JUST TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PUT THAT OUT THERE. I MESSED IT UP, DIDN'T I? NO NO NO. WE WILL COVER THAT CONDITION. OKAY.

OKAY. DISCUSSION. COMMENTS. VERY USEFUL INFORMATION THAT SHE PROVIDED US. OKAY. THAT'S ALL, I GUESS I'VE GOT A WE'VE GOT SOMETHING SIMILAR COMING UP WHICH WAS THERE. THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS A SET OF CONDITIONS ON HOW IT'S TO BE. WHAT'S TO HAPPEN INSIDE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SIMILAR COMING UP LATER. AND NOW WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO HAS EITHER ACQUIRED THAT OR HAS OWNED IT, IS NOT HAPPY WITH THOSE CONDITIONS AND WANTS TO CHANGE THEM. THAT IMPACTS NOT JUST THAT INDIVIDUAL, BUT EVERYBODY AROUND THEM. AND I GUESS THAT FEELS TO ME KIND OF LIKE CHANGING THE RULES AS YOU GO. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME CONDITIONS HERE THAT GROUNDWATER ENGINEER NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT AND APPROVE IT. I GET THAT, BUT JUST KIND OF BUGS ME BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE BOUGHT IN WITH THAT SAME CONCEPT AND HAVEN'T KIND OF

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THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS. IT MEETS THE CITY REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. DOESN'T MEAN IT MEETS. SO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE PREVIOUS ATTEMPTS TO SUBDIVIDE LOTS HERE I OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I DON'T REMEMBER THOSE, BUT ALSO. WHAT? CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT IS THAT THIS VARIANCE HAS ALREADY BEEN GRANTED BY A DIFFERENT BOARD THAT THAT WERE NOT A PART OF. AND SO I WOULD HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT THAT BOARD HAD A PROCESS AND THAT THEY HAD A REASON FOR GRANTING THE VARIANCE WITHOUT GOING TOO FAR INTO HISTORY. YOU KNOW, IF WE DID HAVE THIS BEFORE US PREVIOUSLY AND IT WAS FAILED, IT FAILED. IT BEGS THE QUESTION, WAS THERE THE SAME REQUIREMENT ABOUT THE VARIANCE BEING REQUIRED? I DON'T KNOW. LIKE I SAID, I DON'T RECALL, BUT WE'VE KIND OF CHANGED THE WAY WE'RE PLATS TO OVER THE LAST RECENT TIME. AND SO WE PROBABLY HANDLED IT VERY DIFFERENTLY 9 OR 5 YEARS AGO BASED ON THE COMMENTS. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN THING THAT FOR ME, THE STICKING POINT WAS. ANOTHER BOARD HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT THIS AND THEY'VE GRANTED THE VARIANCE. OKAY. I THAT THAT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT. YOU KNOW, HOW HOW WE NEED TO HANDLE THIS. OKAY. BUT IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION THEN IF SOMEBODY IS READY TO MAKE A MOTION, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THIS.

THE WHOLE PROCESS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SECOND I HAVE IS ARE WE AWARE OF THAT DISTRICT? THEY PUT THAT THE RESIDENTS SAID ABOUT THE WELL RIGHT NEXT TO THE BOUNDARY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ARE WE AWARE OF THAT OR IS THAT A COMMON PRACTICE WHERE THEY CAN PUT IT ANYWHERE IN THE MUD? YEAH. SO THIS AREA IS NOT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE MUD, BUT THE STATEMENT WAS THE ONE OF THE MUDS PUT THEIR THEY PUT THEIR WATER WELL WATER WELL RIGHT NEXT TO RIGHT ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE, RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE OF THIS SUBDIVISION. YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ENGINEERING WANTS TO RESPOND TO THAT. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S ALSO A CONCERN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING MORE WELL TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AREA. SO. GOOD EVENING. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS. MY NAME IS SHASHI KUMAR, ONE OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY WELL WITHIN THE MUD, WELL, WITHIN THESE PROPERTIES. IT MAY BE ON THE PERIPHERY OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'RE NOT AWARE OF THAT. AND IF I MAY ADD TO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION ASKED, THESE ARE IN THE CITY'S LONG TERM PLANS, NOT SHORT TERM. IT'S NOT FUNDED TO EXTEND WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM TO THIS ONE. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DO NOT HAVE A CAPITAL PLAN OR FUNDING TO EXTEND WATER AND SEWER, JUST LIKE WE EXTEND IN OTHER SUBDIVISIONS. AS THE RESIDENT ALLUDED TO, THIS WAS BUILT OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS AND ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T HAVE THE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE IN OTHER SUBDIVISIONS. YEAH. I MEAN, THE STATEMENT WAS THAT THEY PUT THEIR WELL RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY, NOT NECESSARILY ON THE PROPERTY. SO I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. AND I CANNOT CONFIRM OR DENY THAT AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION IF THIS IS

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I'M SORRY MA'AM WE'VE WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. I HAVE SOMETHING TO REGARD TO THE OTHER BOARDS APPROVAL. IF I MAY. THAT BOARD WAS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. NO ONE IN OUR SUBDIVISION KNEW ABOUT IT. IT WAS A PRIVATE HEARING. SO, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MR. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AND OPEN. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE. I BELIEVE I WAS AWARE THAT THEY DON'T DO PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THEY HAVE A SPECIAL PURPOSE AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO BUSINESS. SO I CAN'T COMMENT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON ON THEIR PROCESS. BUT THAT'S THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THE FACT THAT THAT HAPPENED. YES.

YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING I FORGOT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TRY A MOTION HERE. I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GRAY AREA HERE.

I AGREE, NOT A GRAY AREA. ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY FOR FUTURE PLANNING AS WELL. I DON'T DISAGREE, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION AT SOME POINT. WELL, MY ONLY THING, CHAIR HANEY, IS LET ME LET ME MAKE ONE STATEMENT TO THE FIRST SPEAKER'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE PROTESTING. YES. IN ORDER FOR THIS TO PASS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY OF THE BOARD, WHICH IS 75% OF VOTING. YES. IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IF IT'S BEEN REQUIRED THAT A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, IDEALLY A CIVIL ENGINEER WITH A BACKGROUND IN HYDROLOGY OR WATER RESOURCES, HAD THAT STUDY COMPLETED AND SITTING RIGHT HERE, WOULDN'T WE BE ABLE TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS WE HAVE? INSTEAD, WE'RE MAKING A CONDITION GOING FORWARD, AND IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT SHOULD ALREADY BE DONE. YEAH. YEAH. GIVEN YOU KNOW THE CONCERNS AND I THINK THEY'RE GENUINE THAT ARE BEING RAISED HERE. THAT'S MY COMMENT. OKAY.

AND I WILL STILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE REPLY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THE REPLY. WE HAVE A SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DENYING THE REPLAT.

OPPOSED. MOTION IS DENIED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO. I GUESS WE DO. WE NEED TO DO THE OKAY. SINCE THERE'S NO REPLAT THERE'S NO PARKLAND DEDICATION. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MADAM. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ONE'S EASY. IT'S JUST A PARKLAND DEDICATION, RIGHT? YEAH. FOLKS, IF YOU COULD KEEP IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN CONTINUE. OH, YES. NOT LISTENING. I WAS. JUST. OKAY. CHAIR. CHAIR, FOR THE SAKE OF THE AGENDA, STAFF WILL WITHDRAW. ITEM 7B2 REGARDING THE PARKLAND DEDICATION. FOR THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM C. WE'VE GOT SOME CONVERSATION GOING ON, PLEASE. EXCUSE ME. WE'RE HAVING A MEETING HERE. I'M SORRY. WHO AM I HEARING TALKING? WHERE NOW?

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[c. Ramble Creek Estate]

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. SO BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR CASH IN LIEU OF PARKLAND FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO TYPICALLY WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION WE ASK FOR ONE ACRE PER 100 DWELLING UNITS WITH REALLY WITH SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS WHERE WE HAVE LESS THAN HALF AN ACRE. TYPICALLY THE ONLY SUITABLE SOLUTION IS CASH IN LIEU OF. SO THAT IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING HERE. STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON THIS. AND THIS WENT TO PARKS BOARD LAST WEEK. AND PARKS BOARD ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS REQUEST. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM TWO. CONSIDERING APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FOR RAMBO CREEK ESTATE. WELL, I'LL JUST. I'LL TAKE THIS. IT'S A SIMPLE REPLAT OF ONE LOT. AND THE PURPOSE OF IT. THIS IS AN UNRECORDED SUBDIVISION. AND SO THERE'S A NEW HOME THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE CONSTRUCTED. AND SO THIS IS PART OF THEIR PROCESS TO FORMALLY SUBDIVIDE THE LOT SO THAT THEY CAN PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SO THAT IS A ONE ACRE LOT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT SOME TYPE OF SUBDIVISION SUBDIVIDING THE LOT. SO THIS ONE IS I BELIEVE IT'S AS IT'S EXISTED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES. OKAY. BUT THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION OF OAK FOREST IS A UNRECORDED SUBDIVISION. OKAY. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, BEFORE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS CAN BE ISSUED, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER IS PLOTTING THEIR PROPERTY. SO THERE'S NO CHANGE, NO SUBDIVISION OF AN EXISTING LOT. IT'S THE LOT AS IT EXISTED. AND WE DON'T REQUIRE ANYTHING FROM THE HOA. IF THEY HAVE AN HOA TO GET ANY PERMIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO DO THIS OR FOR THE PERMIT. YES. WE'LL, WE'LL, WE ASK FOR IF IT'S WITHIN AN HOA THAT HAS AN ACTIVE ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE THAT THEY PROVIDE A STATEMENT FROM THEIR THEIR HOA, BUT NOT FOR THE PLAT PURPOSES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLAN. I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND, A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I OPPOSED MOTION PASSES.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO D. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR ROTHWELL PLACE. SO WE HAVE A VERY SIMILAR PROPOSAL HERE. THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING PROVIDING CASH IN LIEU OF PARKLAND AT $1,400 PER DWELLING UNIT. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A SINGLE LOT. SO THAT AMOUNTS TO $1,400. 0.01 ACRES OF PARKLAND IS PRETTY INFEASIBLE. SO STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

AND AGAIN, THIS WENT TO PARKS BOARD LAST WEEK WHO ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSION. ANY MOTIONS? MAKE A MOTION. MOTION. IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM TWO. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT OF ROTHWELL'S PLACE. OKAY. THIS IS A FINAL PLAT OF A EXISTING LOT.

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[e. Sienna]

OPPOSED? NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL MOVE ON TO TWO. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SIENNA, SECTION 84. YES. SO, SIENNA SECTION 84 IS WITHIN THE REVISED CONCEPT FOR D. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS DUE TO SOME ISSUES WITH THE INTERSECTIONS BEING TOO CLOSE, AND THEY ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH ENGINEERING ON A VARIANCE FOR THAT. SO CURRENTLY IT'S APPROVAL CONDITIONS UNTIL THEY SETTLE THE CONDITIONS.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. ANY DISCUSSION. MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF STAFF'S.

GUIDELINES. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS DRAWN. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ZONING MAP

[a. FBC MUD 47 Lift Station No.2 - Specific Use Permit]

THERE'S THE WORD FEED IN THERE RANDOMLY. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE YOU TODAY WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A LIFT STATION CURRENTLY IN THE OLYMPIA ESTATES SUBDIVISION. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED R2 AS IT'S BEEN ZONED SINCE ITS INCEPTION. HERE IS A SITE PLAN APPROXIMATELY 6300FT■!S IS AN EXISTING LIFT STATION WITH UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE CURRENTLY PLACED THERE AT THE MOMENT. WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION AGAINST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS, WE FOUND THAT IT DIDN'T POSE ANY CONTRADICTIONS OR CHANGES TO OUR EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WE ALSO EVALUATED ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS AGAINST THE APPLICATION. WE FOUND THAT IT DIDN'T POSE ANY ISSUES OR NEGATIVE ISSUES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN CONGRUENCE WITH INGRESS AND EGRESS, TRASH DISPOSAL, UTILITY, AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SEE HERE. AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT INDEFINITELY FOR THIS LIFT STATION HERE LOCATED. AND IT DID MEET NOTICING REQUIREMENTS. THE 250 FOOT BUFFER AROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS SENT OUT JULY 11TH, 2025. THE SIGN WAS POSTED THAT SAME DAY. WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT HERE NOW AT PLANNING AND ZONING, AND THEN WE HAVE AN ANTICIPATED SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND. WHAT'S MY QUESTION? WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? HOW DID WE GET THERE? SO THERE'S AN INTERESTING HISTORY WITH A LOT OF UTILITY LOCATIONS, WATER PLANTS, LIFT STATIONS, NOT HAVING PLATS AND NOT BEING ZONED AS THEY SHOULD BE. HOW THAT CAME ABOUT, I'M NOT 100% SURE SOMETHING WE ARE STILL RESEARCHING, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE RESEARCHING FURTHER TO MAYBE LOOK INTO ORDINANCE CHANGES. AS YOU ALL DIRECTED US LAST TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAME TO US. BUT I WILL ADMIT,

[00:40:05]

WE WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER TWO. CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON ITEM EIGHT, A ONE. ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OF A MOTION OF A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR I OPPOSED SEEING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE

[b. Majestic Townhomes - Planned Development]

I'M DONE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE THE COMMISSION AN OVERVIEW. AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW. THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPOSED SITE IS NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF FIFTH STREET AND INDEPENDENCE. AND SO IT'S OUTLINED IN OR IT'S COLORED IN RED ON THE SCREEN. AND SO THAT'S JUST TO THE EAST OF FM 1092 AND THE INTERSECTION OF FM 1092 AND FIFTH STREET. THE REQUESTED REZONING FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS LC TWO, WHICH IS A LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT, ONE OF OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. THE PROPOSAL FOR THIS PROPERTY AS SUBMITTED, INCLUDES MAKING THE DEVELOPMENT INTO A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT, AND THE DESIGN OF THIS IS FOR A BUILD TO RENT, SIMILAR TO THE INSPIRE COMMUNITY THAT IS CONSTRUCTED ON HIGHWAY SIX THAT'S CONSTRUCTED AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THIS WOULD BE A SIMILAR CONCEPT, BUT DESIGNED AS TOWNHOMES. THIS IS JUST OVER A FIVE ACRE TRACK THAT THE DEVELOPER IS SEEKING TO LOCATE THIS PRODUCT. THEY LOOK TO YIELD ABOUT 45 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS, AND THEY HAVE WORKED OVER THE LAST YEAR ON COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT THEMES AND DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND AMENITIES TO SUPPORT A RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT ON THIS PROPERTY. AND SO THAT INCLUDES LOCATION FOR COMMON SPACE, COMMUNITY SIGNAGE, GUEST PARKING TO FACILITATE ANY OVERFLOW PARKING, COMBINED TRASH DISPOSAL. THIS WOULD BE SERVICED BY PRIVATE STREETS DUE TO THE FACT WELL, DUE TO THE CONFIGURATION OF THE SITE, BUT ALSO FOR REQUIREMENTS FOR ON SITE DETENTION AND DESIGN FOR DETENTION FACILITIES USING THE PRIVATE STREET INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE DEVELOPER PROPOSES IN THIS APPLICATION TO INSTALL A PERIMETER WOOD FENCE, SIX FOOT IN HEIGHT AROUND THE PERIMETER, WHERE IT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO WHERE IT SAYS PENDING ASSEMBLY, AND THEN ALSO AROUND THE PERIMETER ALONG INDEPENDENCE BOULEVARD. THE FENCE WOULD BE ADORNED WITH BRICK COLUMNS SPACED OUT ALONG THE LENGTH. THE ANALYSIS OF THIS PROPOSAL IS VERY CLOSELY TIED TO OUR R5 STANDARDS. SO IN LOT WIDTH SETBACKS, HOW CLOSE THE BUILDINGS ARE TO THE STREET, POSITIONING OF DRIVEWAYS, GARAGES AND SO ON. CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STILL HAS THIS LOCATION EARMARKED FOR COMMERCIAL CHARACTER, AGAIN WITH THE GOAL OVERALL GOAL OF HOW DO WE MOVE THE CITY BEYOND A BEDROOM COMMUNITY CHARACTER, YOU KNOW, MEANING HOW DO WE PROVIDE LAND USES AND ZONING TO SUPPORT

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CORRECT. IS IT LC TWO OR LC, LC TWO, LC TWO. AND THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WAY TO STATE PARK. OKAY, OKAY. IS THAT ACROSS FROM THAT IS RESIDENTIAL. BUT ACROSS FROM THAT IS ART. I BELIEVE IT'S R4 OR R5 OR. OKAY, OKAY. JENNIFER, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. THE PLACE RIGHT BEHIND THE GAS STATION, THE ONE PLANNING IS SOMETHING FOR ASSEMBLY. SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT AN ASSEMBLY OVER THERE. WHAT WHAT CAN WE BUILD IN THE PROPOSED SITE OTHER THAN A RESIDENTIAL? WE PUT A STRIP CENTER. WE CAN'T REALLY HAVE A LIQUOR STORE. WE CAN'T REALLY HAVE NOTHING IN THAT AREA. RIGHT. SO WE MAY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. WHAT WILL BE A TYPICAL USE IF THEY CAN HAVE A PLANNING ASSEMBLY PLACE IN THAT AREA? YEAH. AND WHAT WE WOULD

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AND SO THIS IS THAT FIVE ACRES CHANGING THAT TO JUST RESIDENTIAL, YOU'LL HAVE NONRESIDENTIAL POTENTIALLY ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT. AND SO JUST TRYING TO ADDRESS THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TRANSITIONS OR, YOU KNOW, MITIGATING ANY OF, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF ADJACENCY CONCERNS. I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP, HAVING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SESSION OVER THERE THAT IS GOING TO LIMIT THE USAGE OF THAT, THIS PARTICULAR LAND. SO WE JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO LET THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT, AGAIN, THE LEXINGTON PLACE BEEN THERE SINCE 2003 AND WE HAVEN'T HAD NO ATTRACTION SURROUNDING THE AREA AT ALL IN THE IN THE PAST, I'M ASSUMING. NOT NOT DIRECTLY, BUT YOU HAVE THE EBBS AND FLOWS OF THINGS YOU HAVE IN THAT GRAY BOX. THERE WAS A GROUP THAT WAS LOOKING TO DO A DEVELOPMENT PRETTY RAPIDLY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEY KIND OF SLOWED DOWN. BUT WHAT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, IS THAT, AS YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, LEXINGTON VILLAGE ALONG INDEPENDENCE KIND OF FILL OUT AS INDEPENDENTS, YOU KNOW, PARK AND STABLE PARK INVESTMENTS ARE MADE. WE'RE SEEING THE COUNTY JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY OF MOORE, AROUND STABLE PARK PUT IN NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE. SO I THINK THAT THAT AREA IS DEFINITELY AN AREA THAT THINGS ARE STARTING TO PICK UP AND DEVELOPING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I GUESS WE CAN HAVE THE DEVELOPER. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ARIA. I AM THE LAND PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR MAJESTIC, SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. OH, SORRY. THANK YOU. IS THAT BETTER? OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I DO, NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD, THE OBJECTIVE WITH THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF PARCELS OF LAND THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE THERE. IT'S NOT EMOTIONAL. OF COURSE IT IS TO SUPPORT THE HOMES. WE'RE TRYING TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE BURDEN. AND WITH THE OTHER INVESTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THAT AREA. NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD THIS, WOULD YOU RECONSIDER? WELL, HONESTLY, IT'S NOT MY DECISION, BUT I COULD TAKE THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DECIDING THIS. I CANNOT PROMISE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. BUT JUST FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS NOT A FAR STRETCH FROM WHAT IS EXISTING. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STAFF STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED AND WHAT THE SUGGESTIONS ARE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE RETAIL, BUT WE THIS MAY NOT BE RETAIL COMMERCIAL, BUT IT IS STILL BUILT TO RENT COMMERCIAL. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'D BE SAYING. BESIDES WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, BRINGING WHATEVER IT IS TO THE TABLE. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE PLANNING STAFF. THEY ASKED US TO DO A PUD FOR THIS PARCEL. WE DID A PUD. THEY ASKED US TO PUT 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS. WE UPDATED OUR DRAINAGE MAPS. WE COMPLETELY DID A NEW TIA. EVERYTHING THAT THEY ASKED US OF. OVER THE COURSE OF THIS PAST YEAR, WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH AND PLEASE, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY HERE IS IN THAT ENTIRETY OF THE ENTIRETY OF THAT TIME, WE DIDN'T. GET THE FEELING THAT WE WILL BE DENIED BECAUSE WE ARE NOT MEETING WITH THE COMP PLAN OR THEY WANT TO SEE, MORE IMPORTANTLY, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL. IF WE HAD YOU KNOW, AND I'VE BEEN I'VE NOT BEEN WITH

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THANK YOU. IT WAS LAST WEEK WE HAD OR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WE HAD THE GENTLEMAN COME OUT AND TALK TO US ABOUT TAX IMPACTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. HAVE WE LOOKED AT WHAT THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD MEAN TO THE CITY VERSUS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FROM THAT STANDPOINT? RIGHT. AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT AND THAT IS WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRESENTING THAT AND DEFINITELY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TO ADD TO YOUR DECISION MAKING TOOLBOX. SO WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THAT RUN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE MADE MY COMMENTS BEFORE ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF WHY THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO BE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, LIKE, THAT'S A BAD THING. I DON'T SEE THE DOWNSIDE TO HAVING PROPERTIES LIKE THIS. SOME OF THESE HAVE COME BEFORE US. SIMILAR LOOK BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE HAS MADE A DECISION AND SOMETHING HAPPENS FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. I UNDERSTAND, BUT I THINK THESE ARE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MOTION PUBLIC HEARING I SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR ITEM 8B1. JENNIFER, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THE DYNASTY DEVELOPMENT FOR SUCCESS? SO FAR WE'VE HAD POSITIVE AT LEAST IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS. YES WE'VE WE'VE RECEIVED POSITIVE I THINK I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE FULLY LEASED OR AT LEAST CLOSE TO THAT. I THINK I KNOW INITIALLY WHAT THEIR KICKOFF THEY WERE REPORTING STRONG, YOU KNOW, KIND

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RIGHT. IT'S NOT. SO IT'S INTERESTING I KNOW. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A COMMERCIAL ASPECT TO THIS. RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW, I GUESS IF THEY PUT A LITTLE GROCERY STORE IN THERE THAT WE'D BE HAPPY, RIGHT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND WE AND YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT ALL THE BIG GROCERY STORES ARE ALL ABOUT CONSOLIDATING AND MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EMPTY GROCERY STORE SPACE, WHICH PAINS ME A LITTLE BIT THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

SO. DISCUSSION. COMMENTS, CONSIDERATIONS. JENNIFER, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN BUSY ESPECIALLY. THIS YEAR, BUT I FIND OUT LATE IN THE GAME THAT THE CITY REALLY WANTED ANOTHER PRODUCT HERE. I THINK COMMUNICATION. YOU'RE VERY GIFTED AT IT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT I WOULD THINK IF AT THE LAST MINUTE I WAS TOLD, YOU REALLY WANT THIS COMMERCIAL AT THIS SPOT. THIS IS A BIG INVESTMENT.

AND IN FAIRNESS TO THE DEVELOPER. THERE WAS NEVER ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION. NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. YEAH. AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT AGAIN IS I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS A PARTICULAR PRODUCT THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO LOCATE. I THINK WHAT HAS BEEN MADE, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING, EVEN UP UNTIL NOW, IS THAT MOST OF THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CURRENT UPDATE, YOU KNOW, HAVE NOT BEEN AS PROMINENTLY DISCUSSED WITH THIS PARTICULAR GROUP. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE THEY HAVE BEEN FULLY AWARE OF HOW THEIR DEVELOPMENT STACKS UP TO THE CURRENT PLAN. HOW BIG, HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? THAT ADJACENT TRACK TO THE WEST, I MEAN, TO THE EAST THAT I DON'T HAVE. THIS IS ABOUT FIVE ACRES, SO I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 10 OR 15. AND ONE OF THE CAVEATS IS, IS THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE ZONING MAP. SO YOU SEE WHERE THE COLOR IS. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY ONLY A PERCENTAGE OF THAT PROPERTY. THERE'S A PERCENTAGE OF THAT PROPERTY THAT'S WITHIN THE CITY OF STAFFORD OKAY. AND SO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURS THERE IS GOING TO BE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL UNLESS.

OKAY OKAY. ARE WE AT A POINT TO CONSIDER A MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. FOR MORE DISCUSSION.

WELL, TO ADD TO COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY'S COMMENT, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I THOUGHT THAT GENTLEMAN SAID THIS CLOSING COMMENT WAS WE NEED MORE FLAT ROOFS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE.

REMEMBER THAT MORE FLAT ROOFS. FLAT ROOFS. I MEAN, IT'S A BIGGER EXPRESSION, BUT I REMEMBER THEM FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH. AND THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S STANDING ALONE AND IT'S SURROUNDED, BUT FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I HEAR YOUR POINT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS ON TRYING TO DIVERSIFY, YOU KNOW, BEYOND JUST THAT. THAT'S KIND OF A TOUGH CALL,

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YEAH, I WOULD SAY FROM OUR EXPERIENCE IN TALKING WITH THEM, I BELIEVE THEY UNDERSTOOD. OKAY.

MR. O'MALLEY. WELL, HAVING HEARD THAT, DO WE BELIEVE IN THE PLAN OR NOT? I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT. FOR HOW LONG DO WE BELIEVE IN IT OR NOT? AND THIS IS A TEST OF. OKAY. DO WE BELIEVE IN IT OR NOT? I THINK THIS IS A GOOD. PROPOSAL, JUST NOT IN THIS SPOT. I MEAN, I THINK DINNERSTEIN'S DEVELOPMENT TAUGHT US A LOT. THAT IS BRAND NEW PRODUCT AND WORKED IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS WORKED. SO IF THIS COULD WORK, LET'S SHOW THEM OTHER PROPERTIES. BUT IF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE COMMERCIAL, WE'RE THE GATEKEEPERS OF THE CONVERSATION, NOT THE ULTIMATE DECISION, BUT WE'RE THE GATEKEEPERS OF THE CONVERSATION.

SO I MAKE A MOTION TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION. AND WE DO NOT HAVE A SECOND MOTION FAILS. SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENT MOTION? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO FORWARD THIS WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. WE HAVE A MOTION TO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. AS AS PRESENTED. AS PRESENTED. YES.

OKAY. IF THERE WERE ANY CONDITIONS. YEAH. WELL, THERE'S NO CONDITIONS BECAUSE OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DENY. SO IF IT'S MOVING WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, IT WOULD BE TO APPROVE OR. YEAH, IF IT'S MOVING WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION THEN IT WOULD BE THE APPLICATION AS THE APPLICANT PRESENTED THIS APPLICATION SUBMITTED. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. AND THEN WITH THAT MOTION INCLUDE A MASONRY WALL. NOT FOR ME. AND WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION. THAT MOTION FAILS I'M OUT OF IDEAS. OKAY I MAKE A MOTION TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION. SECOND, OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY THIS APPLICATION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AM I? GO AHEAD.

OPPOSED. THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON. SEE PROLAGUS SOUTHWEST PLANNED

[c. Prologis Southwest - Planned Development]

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ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT, I ASSUME, IS GIVING US A HANDOUT. AND APPLICANT IS HERE. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR.

YES, SIR DEREK, WITH PROLOGIS WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE EMAILED STAFF. WE DID NOT RECEIVE IT. WE JUST PRINTED IT OUT. OKAY. GOT A HARD COPY FROM THE PREVIOUS. I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FLIPPING THROUGH THE SLIDES. JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF POINTS. I THINK IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE RECEIVED LATE LAST NIGHT, WE'VE SPENT THE LAST DAY WORKING WITH PLANNING STAFF TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ITEMS IN THAT REPORT. WE FIRST OF ALL, I'LL ADDRESS THE HEIGHT. I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT ON THE HEIGHT THAT WAS 44FT, WHICH WOULD BE IN NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE BASE DISTRICT, BUT AS DESIGNED, OUR BUILDINGS WOULD BE UNDER THAT 40 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT.

WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM

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SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS WELL. WE'VE WORKED OVER THE PAST YEAR WITH STAFF. WE SUBMITTED THIS BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, HEARD SOME OF THE FEEDBACK AS IT WAS ONGOING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO THE ESTHETICS OF THE BUILDINGS, LOOKING AT MORE OF A RETAIL TYPE OF PRODUCT, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET THAT WE INTEND TO MAKE THESE MORE OF A RETAIL FOCUSED PRODUCT. IN ADDITION, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE SETH FLETCHER ON MY TEAM. WE'RE PLANNING ON KIND OF TAG TEAMING THIS VARIOUS. WE'RE GETTING THROWN FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A LOOP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A PRESENTATION READY TO GO, BUT WANTED TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TELLING YOU ABOUT PROLOGIS AND WHO WE ARE, AND THEN DIVING INTO THE MEAT OF OUR APPLICATION. YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS. I'LL BE QUICK. YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO SEEK PERMISSION TO CONTINUE OUR INVESTMENT IN MISSOURI CITY, WHICH STARTED WITH THE ACQUISITION OF GATEWAY SOUTHWEST IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024. WE'VE HAD THIS PARTICULAR SITE, AS DEREK MENTIONED, A CONTRACT FOR ABOUT A YEAR. DURING THIS TIME, WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY GOALS.

I HEARD THE TERM INTENTIONAL EARLIER, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS DESIGNATED FOR A NUMBER OF USES, WHICH MAYBE DIDN'T FIT WITH WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT AS YOU'RE KIND OF TYPICAL WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS THAT I THINK ARE MORE ALONG BELTWAY BELTWAY EIGHT. THESE ARE NOT THESE BUILDINGS.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE, AND I HOPE YOU'LL SEE FROM THE RENDERINGS OF WHAT WE HAD SENT OVER IN THE PRESENTATION, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS TO APPEAL TO A MORE RETAIL FOCUSED, MORE OFFICE FOCUSED USER. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF TARGETS, THOSE EXCUSE ME, THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF TENANTS THAT WE'RE TARGETING. AND IN OUR PRESENTATION, WE HAD A LIST OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED FOR THIS PROPERTY. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF TENANTS WE'RE SEEKING. SO THESE ARE NOT YOUR DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. THESE ARE YOUR MORE RETAIL FOCUSED STOREFRONTS, SMALL WAREHOUSE IN THE BACK. PROLOGIS IS A INDUSTRIAL REIT.

IF YOU HAVE A 401 K, YOU'RE PROBABLY AN OWNER OF A PROLOGIS. WE'VE GOT ABOUT 40,000,000FT■!S HERE IN HOUSTON. WE'RE A LOCAL TEAM. WE'VE GOT ABOUT 45 EMPLOYEES HERE LOCALLY. WE ARE A LONG TERM HOLDER OF OUR PROPERTIES, WHICH MEANS WE INVEST HEAVILY ON THE FRONT END AND THE DESIGN. WE INVEST HEAVILY IN THE OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE OF OUR PROJECTS. WE ARE NOT A MERCHANT BUILDER. THAT QUICKLY BUILDS IT AS CHEAPLY AS POSSIBLE, LEASES IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, SELLS IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE INVESTORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS 100% BIASED, AND I TOTALLY REALIZE THAT. BUT WE APPRECIATE THE AMBITIOUS GOALS LAID OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND JENNIFER AND HER STAFF HAVE ARTICULATED THAT TO US. YOU KNOW, IN BEING A WESTBURY RESIDENT TEN MINUTES AWAY, I WOULD FULLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE USES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD. BUT HERE'S THE BIASED PART. IN MY 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN REAL ESTATE, INCLUDING OFFICE, RETAIL, MULTIFAMILY, THIS PARTICULAR SITE DOES NOT FIT THOSE NEEDS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. SITE CONFIGURATION ACCESS. IT'S HARD TO I GET IT. IT'S HARD TO KIND OF COME TO A REALITY WITH THAT. BUT I THINK IF THE MARKET WANTED THAT, IF THE MARKET DEEMED THIS A SITE FOR THOSE TYPES OF USES, I THINK IT WOULD BE HERE ALREADY. AGAIN, BIASED IN SAYING THAT, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S TRUE. I KNOW OUR OUR LANDOWNER, WHO WE'VE BEEN UNDER CONTRACT WITH FOR ABOUT A YEAR, HAS BACKUP OFFERS. BOTH OF THOSE ARE ALSO FROM INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS. AND I KNOW ONE OF THEM. THEY'RE GOOD DEVELOPERS, BUT THEY'RE THAT MERCHANT BUILD TYPE OF STRATEGY. SO IF IT'S NOT US, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOMEBODY ELSE UP HERE IN A YEAR FROM NOW PROPOSING THE SAME THING. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE PROLOGIS SEPARATES ITSELF AS A LONG TERM OWNER AND INVESTOR. SO KIND OF IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THE SLIDES, LOOK AT THE RENDERINGS. I REALLY WANT TO DRIVE HOME THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WAREHOUSES, INDUSTRIAL. WE WANT TO CONTINUE OUR INVESTMENT IN MISSOURI CITY, BELIEVE IT'S A VIBRANT PLACE OF COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS. AND SO AT THAT POINT, I THINK WE'LL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS. ANYTHING ELSE? DID I MISS ANYTHING? GO AHEAD. JUMP BACK IN SITE PLAN IF YOU ALL. YEAH I GUESS YEAH ONE, ONE. YEAH. GO AHEAD. YEAH I HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH. SO WHAT IS DRIVING WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT MAKES YOU SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROJECT. BRINGING IT TO THIS AREA. WHAT IS DRIVING IT. SO I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS.

DEMOGRAPHICS. RIGHT. YOU HAVE A LOT OF ROOFTOPS. RIGHT. SO THESE CAN SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES.

IT'S GOT A GREAT LABOR BASE. IT'S GOT GOOD ACCESS ON HIGHWAY 90 AND THE BELTWAY. AND I THINK

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THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A WAREHOUSE. WHAT TYPES OF RETAIL WOULD YOU BE ATTEMPTING TO ATTRACT? COME OVER THERE. SO WHEN I SAY RETAIL IT'S YOUR, YOU KNOW, PLACES TO GO PICK OUT CARPET PLACE TO GO PICK OUT KITCHEN APPLIANCES. IT'S GOT A STOREFRONT SMALL WAREHOUSE IN THE BACK. SO IT'S NOT FAB RETAIL. IT'S STOREFRONT CONSUMER BASED RETAIL. SO LIKE I SAID, APPLIANCES, CARPET, TILES. WE HAD SOME IMAGES THAT I GUESS DIDN'T INCLUDED OF KIND OF SOME OF OUR MORE RETAIL AND OFFICE BUILD OUTS, BUT IT'S REALLY KIND OF STOREFRONT HOME APPLIANCES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IS THIS A PUBLIC HEARING? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TO SPEAK? YES, WE DO HAVE. WHEN I STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. KRISTEN THORNBOROUGH. OKAY. DOES IT START WHEN I JUST START TALKING? OKAY. KRISTEN THORNBORROW I LIVE AT 1127 BOLTON DRIVE, MISSOURI CITY, AND I AM SHARING SOME COMMENTS FROM SOMEONE WHO WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT. THIS REZONING PROJECT, AS WRITTEN, CONSTITUTES A NUISANCE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT CRAVEN VILLAGE SLASH BOLTON ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS FROM USING OUR HOMES AS HOMES. FIRSTLY, ACCESS BULL AT ADAM'S INTERSECTION IS A SINGLE LANE IN AND OUT, SHARED FOR OVER 120 HOMES. WE DEMAND A TRAFFIC STUDY AND WRITTEN ASSURANCES FROM THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY OFFICES, ASSURING US ACCESS TO OUR CITY SERVICES INCLUDING POLICE, FIRE, EMS, CONTRACTED SANITATION TRUCKS AS WELL AS CENTERPOINT GAS AND ELECTRIC. WE ALSO REQUIRE ASSURANCES FROM NUMBER TWO. WE DO NOT BELIEVE THIS INTERSECTION IS ABLE TO SUPPORT COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC OR RETAIL, INDUSTRIAL, ETC. AND STILL ABLE TO ALLOW US ACCESS TO OUR HOMES AND CITY SERVICES. THERE IS, IN OUR OPINION, NO WAY THAT INTERSECTION COULD SUPPORT ANYTHING MORE THAN SINGLE RESIDENCE TRAFFIC. SECONDLY, INDUSTRIAL ZONES HAVE DIFFERENT NOISE REQUIREMENTS THAN RESIDENTIAL ZONES. WHAT PROTECTIONS WILL BE PROVIDED FOR OUR HOMES? THE REMOVAL OF THE GREEN BUFFER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY ENJOYS SHIELDING US FROM THE NOISE OF THE 90 CORRIDOR AND RAILROAD WILL REQUIRE A NOISE BARRIER AND SOUND WALL AND REPLACEMENT. MISSOURI CITY, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, HAS RESIDENTIAL NOISE ORDINANCES THAT CANNOT BE VIOLATED. THIRDLY, DRAINAGE AND SUBSEQUENT FLOODING WILL BE A MAJOR CONCERN SHOULD THE GREENBELT ADJACENT TO OUR HOMES BE CONCRETED OVER. OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ARE ALREADY CAUSING FLOODING ISSUES. SPECIFICALLY, AFTER ADDING A BRICK WALL ALONG THE PERIMETER SEPARATING THE DEVELOPMENT FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. FOURTH, THERE ARE ALSO HUGE SAFETY CONCERNS RELATED TO CHILD SAFETY AS CHILDREN CURRENTLY WALK, BIKE AND PLAY ON ADAMS AND MOCKINGBIRD. THIS AFFECTS MANY MORE FAMILIES THAN JUST THOSE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE 200 250FT AND THEREFORE WERE CONTACTED. I JUST HAPPENED TO BE NOTIFIED

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THERE'S A HOMEOWNER WHO LIVES IN AN ADJACENT LOT THAT'S EMPTY. THAT'S PART OF THIS PLAN, AND HE IS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE OWNS IT. SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME RESEARCH THERE. AND WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T NEED ANY MORE OF OUR AREA REZONED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WHEN I MOVED IN ALMOST 14 YEARS AGO, WE HAD CORNFIELDS AND WE HAD TREES, AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL TO GO ON WALKS.

AND NOW WE HAVE WAREHOUSES. OKAY, I WOULD LOVE A RESTAURANT OR A GROCERY STORE. THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS THE RESIDENTS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE LIKE THAT. OKAY. I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING. CANNOT FIND IT. I LOOK FOR. NO, I.

YEAH. AS THERE'S NOBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THE FROM THE PUBLIC. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? SO? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT? WELL, WELL, PART OF THE REASON I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE MATERIALS WAS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, BUT IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND IN THIS. THERE IT IS FINALLY. DO WE WANT TO DO WE WANT TO HEAR A RESPONSE FROM THE APPLICANT. YEAH. TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS. I MEAN, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. SO. WE'RE KIND OF ON HERE I GOT YOU ON. YEAH. NO I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD. I'LL TRY AND ADDRESS EACH ONE AS FAR AS AS ACCESS TO BULL RUN, ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC IS ANTICIPATED TO COME OFF OF HIGHWAY 90 THROUGH OUR ACCESS POINT AT THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, AND THEN NORTH ON CITY DRIVE. WE'VE CHOSEN THOSE ACCESS POINTS TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO PUSH TRAFFIC INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ANY MORE THAN THE NEIGHBORS DO. EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, THE CITY HAD. CITY STAFF HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY WANTED TO CONNECT ADAMS WITH TANG CITY DRIVE, AND WE SAID, THAT'S IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE, THE NEIGHBORS OR OUR DEVELOPMENT EITHER. OUR CUSTOMERS WANT TO KNOW WHERE TO GO, POINT TO POINT, WHICH IS ALSO WHY WE'VE ORIENTED THE BUILDINGS. AS SUCH, THE BUILDING TO THE RIGHT, THE FRONT LOAD FACES AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS. THAT ACTS AS A NATURAL NOISE BARRIER IN ADDITION TO MEETING MISSOURI CITY'S ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS ON PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITH INDUSTRIAL BASED DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS THE NOISE ORDINANCE. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A DETENTION POND ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE APPROPRIATE LANDSCAPE BARRIERS. WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED ADDITIONAL IDEAS OF BUFFERING THAT INCLUDE GOING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY WITH ADDITIONAL VEGETATION, AS WELL AS AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PROPERTIES THAT FACE THE NEIGHBORS RELATED TO FLOODING WILL ACTUALLY BE IMPROVING THE FLOODING CONDITIONS. WITH OUR FOUR DETENTION PONDS. CURRENTLY, THE RUNOFF SITS IN AN EXISTING POND THAT SERVES SECOND MILE. WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE TAKING CONTROL OF THEIR DETENTION AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL DETENTION FOR THEM, WHICH YOU SEE HERE. AND ALL OF THE WATER DETAINED WOULD THEN FLOW NORTH INTO THE EXISTING MISSOURI CITY SYSTEM. AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT ORIENTING AGAIN, THE BUILDING AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEN HAVING OUR MORE RETAIL FOCUSED ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ANTICIPATED TO HAVE A LESSER VOLUME OF TRUCK TRAFFIC

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OKAY. YEAH. YES, SIR. HAVE YOU MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS? HAVE YOU GUYS DONE ANYTHING TO INTERACT WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA? WE REACHED OUT. WE'VE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WE ASKED CITY STAFF, HOW CAN WE ENGAGE WITH THE NEIGHBORS? WE GOT A CONTACT LATE JULY OR LATE JUNE, HAD SOME COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH, BUT IT DROPPED OFF WITH THAT, THAT INDIVIDUAL CONTACT. AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY ANYONE ELSE THAT COULD ORGANIZE A COMMUNITY MEETING, BUT DEFINITELY HAPPY TO. DO YOU OPERATE? FACILITIES SUCH AS THIS IN THE SAME PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORS ELSEWHERE? WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE THERE? WHAT DO YOU PROACTIVELY DO TO WORK WITH THEM? WE DO, YES. WE HAVE 350 ACRE PROJECT IN CYPRESS, TEXAS, ADJACENT TO TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S ACTIVELY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. WE'VE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE IN VISITING WITH THEM. THEY HAVE HOMES THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE STRUCTURED, SO WE'VE ATTENDED THEIR MEETINGS. THEY DON'T REQUIRE ANY ZONING. WE'RE JUST WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS POINT. SINCE WE'RE IN HARRIS COUNTY. BUT EVEN DESPITE THAT, WE WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHEN AND TRYING TO TAKE AS MUCH BURDEN OFF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS POSSIBLE, NOT ONLY DURING CONSTRUCTION BUT DURING OPERATIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU. SO AROUND YOUR DETENTION PONDS, I SEE A CHAIN LINK FENCE, BUT IS THAT A MASONRY WALL THAT THAT YOU SAID IS GOING TO BE ON THE. I GUESS IT WOULD BE TRYING TO GET MY BEARINGS ON THIS, I GUESS, FROM THIS MAP ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S MASONRY WALL. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT CHAIN LINK JUST AROUND THE DETENTION POND PART. CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE AT ITEM TWO.

CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF HC1. YES I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. SURE OKAY. NO. COULD YOU BACK UP A COUPLE OF SLIDES. IT WAS THE ONE WHERE YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN I THINK. LET'S SEE. GO. WAS THAT IT OR. YEAH. THINKING THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE. THAT ONE. THAT ONE. THERE WE GO. OKAY. JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AGAIN. WHAT YOU ENVISION FOR THAT AREA. YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY IT'S IT SEEMS TO BE SUGGESTING MAYBE A MIXED USE, WHICH I'M THINKING, I HEAR THAT I'M LIKE SUGARLAND TOWN CENTER OR THINGS LIKE THAT. CORRECT. I MEAN, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. MORE USES THAT ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY FOR THE NEARBY RESIDENTS, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS AS WELL AS MAYBE VENUES, SPORTS CENTERS, ENTERTAINMENT, RESTAURANTS, LIKE WAS MENTIONED, THINGS THAT ARE MORE WELCOMED FROM THE COMMUNITY, FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN. AND YOUR SENSE IS WHAT THEY'VE PRESENTED. AND UNDERSTANDABLY, SOME OF THIS JUST CAME ACROSS YOUR DESK, I GUESS. BUT IS DEVIATES A LITTLE TOO MUCH FROM WHAT YOU WOULD OTHERWISE ENVISION AS PRESENTED HERE IN THE WAY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS CORRECT. WE BELIEVE THE APPLICATION CURRENTLY DOES NOT MATCH WHAT WE'RE BOTH VISIONING, WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AND WHAT THE WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOW HAS IN IT. OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, SIMPLY WITH RESPECT TO THAT DIAGRAM, IS IT I THINK MAYBE THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWED IT, BUT HOW MUCH OF THAT SHADED YOU KNOW, GATEWAY MIXED USE THAT YOU'RE SHOWING. THERE IS WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO YOU FOLLOW ME AT THIS UPPER RIGHT I THINK RIGHT I APOLOGIZE IT'S NOT IT'S A LITTLE BIT ZOOMED OUT BUT YES IT WOULD BE UP THERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT. CORRECT. CORRECT. ON THE TOP RIGHT THERE. BUT AGAIN, SINCE THAT'S ALL ALONG THAT US 90 CORRIDOR, IT'S REAL IMPORTANT KIND OF HOW WE VISION AND HOW WE PLAN FOR WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SINCE THAT IS A MAJOR ENTRYWAY FOR PEOPLE BOTH IN AND OUTSIDE OF MISSOURI CITY, SEEING MISSOURI CITY FOR THE FIRST TIME. OKAY. SO IT WOULD IT WOULD TAKE UP ALL THAT PORTION. IT WOULD TAKE A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE MOST NORTHERN PORTION UP THERE. I

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OKAY. SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST THAT SLIVER THAT'S BASED ON THIS NORTH OF. BULL LANE. CORRECT.

OKAY. SO IT'S ABOUT WHAT, A QUARTER OF THAT WHOLE AREA. YEAH. THAT JUST ABOUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. YEAH. SO IT'S ROUGHLY. YEAH MAYBE A QUARTER OF THAT. YEAH.

YES SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT WAS I MEAN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WANTING MIXED USE. LIKE WHERE ARE WE. ARE WE TALKING TO PEOPLE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PUTTING THINGS LIKE THAT INTO MISSOURI CITY? AND THEN IF THAT'S THE CASE, DO YOU TRY AND HAVE THEM LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? SURE. AND IT WOULD BE AN ONGOING CONVERSATION. SO I THINK IF THAT MOVES FORWARD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEN THAT WOULD BE A TOOL THAT ALL OF OUR TEAMS CAN USE, WHETHER IT'S RECRUITMENT OR WHETHER IT'S RESPONDING, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE MULTI KIND OF A MULTI APPROACH ON THAT. SO LIKE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING WITH DIFFERENT SITE LOCATORS, DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS. THEY'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF HOSPITALITY TYPE OF USERS. YOU KNOW FOR THIS AREA WE HAVE YOU KNOW OTHERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS AREA. SO IT WOULD BE A TOOL THAT WE WOULD USE FOR THAT ACTIVE RECRUITMENT BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND I MEAN, IT'S ON HIGHWAY 90. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY BUSINESSES LIKE THIS WOULD LIKE TO LOCATE THERE.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONE WE JUST THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WE HAD WAS KIND OF OFF THE BEATEN PATH. AND WE REALLY WANT INDUSTRIAL THERE. AND THIS IS ONE WHERE IT'S ON THE HIGHWAY 90, BUT WE DON'T LIKE THE INDUSTRIAL THERE. IS THAT A AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR A WHILE, BUT IT SEEMS A LITTLE MAYBE COUNTERINTUITIVE, JUST FOR CLARITY. WE DO NOT WANT INDUSTRIAL ON INDUSTRIAL OR INDEPENDENT GENERIC. YEAH. GENERIC TERM COMMERCIAL.

COMMERCIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DEVELOPER'S POINT. IF WE TURN THIS DOWN WE'RE LIABLE TO SEE THIS AGAIN. IF THAT CONTINUES, DO WE JUST KEEP PLANNING TO GO THIS WE REALLY WANT SOMETHING ELSE THERE AND WE'LL HOLD OUT FOR IT OR.

WELL, NO. AND I THINK I THINK PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE IS TO GET THAT COLLECTIVE VISION FOR HOW YOU ALL WANT TO PUSH THE CITY FORWARD. AND SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY THE FISCAL ANALYSIS PORTION OF IT, DEFINITELY FROM THIS BODY IS A PORTION OF THAT TOOL FOR US TO USE FOR REALISTIC KIND OF VISIONS. BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT UPDATE, ONCE WE HAVE THOSE AMENDMENTS IN PLACE, THEN THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO THE WORLD, THAT THIS IS WHERE WE WANT MISSOURI CITY TO GO. THANK YOU. SO.

ANYBODY ELSE YET? I KIND OF HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THIS AREA BEING EVER GOING TO BE WHAT WE ENVISION FOR IT. AND I'M NOT SURE I, I CAN ARTICULATE EXACTLY WHY I FEEL THAT WAY. OKAY. BUT IT JUST IT I MEAN, I USED TO DRIVE BACK AND FORTH TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY ON THAT ROAD, AND THE THOUGHT THAT I WOULD EVER STOP FOR ANYTHING ALONG THERE JUST NEVER EVEN WAS A CONSIDERATION. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF THE GATEWAY THING. I, BECAUSE OF THIS PARTICULAR ROADWAY HERE AND THE CONFIGURATION OF THAT ROADWAY, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVER GOING TO MATERIALIZE. OKAY. SO I'M KIND OF WITH THE APPLICANT ON. I, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT IT'S EVER GOING TO GET THERE. OKAY. TO COMMISSIONER SOLLOWAY'S POINT, YOU KNOW, IF WE TURN THIS DOWN, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ELSE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT. AND KIND OF

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SO I JUST I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE EVER GOING TO SEE THAT IN THAT AREA. SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT PARTICULAR THING, WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO THERE. I LIKE THEIR CONCEPT OF NOT JUST BUILDING, YOU KNOW, A TILT WALL WAREHOUSE AND, AND, AND WITH, YOU KNOW, ENDLESS LOADING DOCKS, YOU KNOW. IN SOME OF THEIR PICTURES OF OTHER LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, MAY HOLD SOME PROMISE THAT THEY CAN COME THROUGH AND, AND MAKE IT MORE OF A. WAREHOUSE RETAIL. I FORGET EXACTLY WHAT HE CALLED IT, BUT. THE OTHER PART OF IT IS I'M NOT SURE. WHERE THE ROOFTOPS ARE AROUND THIS AREA. OKAY, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR HERE, AND I AND TO ME, THERE WOULD NEVER BE ANY REASON UNLESS MAYBE I WAS LOOKING FOR AN APPLIANCE OR LOOKING FOR CARPET. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THE WAY THAT ROADWAY IS CONFIGURED RIGHT NOW, TO ME, IT'S JUST NOT VERY CONDUCIVE TO THE KIND OF THING THAT I THINK WE'RE ENVISIONING FOR THAT AREA. DO YOU THINK THAT THIS WOULD DRAW? SOME RETAIL OVER THERE WITH THIS BEING OVER THERE? NOT THE RETAIL THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF AMENITY RETAIL. I THINK THE RETAIL THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FROM THE APPLICANT WOULD BE PLAUSIBLE, BUT IT WOULD BE THE RETAIL THAT, YOU KNOW, REQUIRES KIND OF THOSE STORAGE AREAS, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE SHOWROOMS, LARGER SHOWROOMS. SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE THE RETAIL THAT YOU WOULD WALK TO OR THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD DRAW YOU FOR LIKE A WEEKLY BASIS OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. I MEAN, JUST IN THE ADJACENT AREA WITH THE OTHER PROPERTY, THAT'S A NO. I THINK IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE IF THIS GOES TO THE PRODUCT TYPE THAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED, I THINK IT'S LIKELY THAT YOU'LL SEE OTHERS COME BEFORE YOU TO CONTINUE THAT WITHIN THE ENFIELD. BETWEEN THIS AND SOUTH CRAVEN'S. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE TO, YOU KNOW, IN THAT REMAINING AREA IN BETWEEN TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THAT. THANK YOU. I KNOW I'M A PRETTY SIMPLE GUY, BUT THEY BOUGHT THIS A YEAR AGO AND WE CHANGED THE RULES ON THE SECOND SECOND PROJECT IN A ROW. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE RULES, SO PART OF IT HAS BEEN ATTEMPTS TO TRY TO CHANGE THE RECOMMENDATION. SO, YOU KNOW, INITIAL CONVERSATIONS THIS WAS COMMUNICATED I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, ADJUST A PROJECT OR ADJUST A PRODUCT TO COME CLOSER TO WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED. BUT ULTIMATELY, FROM OUR VANTAGE

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BUT WHAT. YEAH, BUT BUT THIS WAS AFTER A TIMING. WHEN DO WE TELL THEM EARLIER ON BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH THIS LENGTHY PROCESS THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANTED. SO DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME. I KNOW THERE ARE LEGAL ASPECTS OF THAT, BUT IT IT WE DON'T LOOK GOOD WHEN THIS IS A SECOND DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS COME BEFORE US BACK TO BACK. AND IT SEEMS TO BE THE SAME UNDERLYING THING.

SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE THEY'RE SAYING, WELL. WE DIDN'T KNOW. AND YOU'RE SAYING, YES, YOU DID.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WHEN DO WE BECOME ABSOLUTE THAT DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME. WELL, SOME OF IT'S A PROCESS, RIGHT. IS THAT STAFF'S NOT MAKING THE FINAL CALL. SO WHEN STAFF TELLS YOU NO OR PROVIDES GUIDANCE TO AN APPLICANT IS PROVIDING GUIDANCE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT YOU KNOW, THE RULES BASED ON WHAT THE INPUT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. SO I THINK STAFF HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, ON THIS PROJECT AND EVEN BEFORE THAT HASN'T CHANGED. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S PROPS INVOLVED, THERE'S AN INVESTMENT. AND SO A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, THIS GROUP AS WELL WANTS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, STAFF MAY NOT SUPPORT IT DIRECTLY IS NOT THE END, YOU KNOW, OF THAT PROCESS.

SO THERE IS SOME OF THAT GOING ON WHERE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT STAFF WASN'T CLEAR. YOU KNOW, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS ARE. BUT SOME STILL WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO GET A FINAL DETERMINATION. I MEAN, 20 YEARS I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE GONE AGAINST HIM BECAUSE I TRUST HIM. AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOOD AT THIS AND I CAN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS HONESTLY, YOU WERE READING THIS DURING YOUR PRESENTATION AND I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURES AND I'M NODDING THAT WHAT YOU'RE READING, I'M LOOKING AT IN PICTURES, AND THEN YOU SAY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING AGAINST IT. WAIT A MINUTE, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE FOR WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURES IN THE PRESENTATION AND A NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT COMPANY THAT OWNS THEIR PROPERTIES, NOT FLIPS. I'M TOTALLY COMMITTED TO MISSOURI CITY. THIS IS WELL RESEARCHED. THEY HAVE ALL SORTS OF CLIENTS IN ALL OF THEIR BUILDINGS THAT ARE RESOURCES TO US AS A CITY FOR RECRUITMENT, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, IS IT PERFECT? I DON'T KNOW, I OWN PROPERTY, SIX BLOCKS AWAY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE BIG RETAIL IS EVER GOING TO BE IN THAT SPOT. THE RESTAURANT WITH AN OUTDOOR PATIO, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S HIGHWAY TRAFFIC.

IT'S LOUD AND I'M AND I'M NOT ONE TO BE A NAYSAYER, BUT. WHEN EVERYBODY HAS ELECTRIC VEHICLES, YOU KNOW. NOT IN OUR LIFETIME. WELL IN TO COMMISSIONER PEARSON'S POINT, YOU KNOW. I GUESS STAFF'S HAS TO TAKE THE POSITION. THEY CAN'T SHUT SOMETHING DOWN, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY'RE THERE TO HELP, RIGHT? AND I THINK WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE COMES OUT AND WE GET MORE MEAT BEHIND IT, THAT DISCUSSION WILL BE EASIER AND PEOPLE WILL HAVE, I THINK, DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS. YOU KNOW, SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF STUCK IN THAT LIMBO PERIOD. RIGHT. WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET. ON FLESHING IT ALL OUT. AND, YOU KNOW, SINCE THESE PROCESSES DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, I MEAN, FROM THE DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, RIGHT? THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON

[01:50:02]

[d. PD 19 Amendment - Planned Development]

THE PD ITSELF ALLOWS FOR R-2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, AS WELL AS LC TWO LOCAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL USES. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WERE RESTRICTIONS ON THE HOURS OF OPERATION. CURRENTLY, THE PD ONLY ALLOWS FOR OPERATION BETWEEN 6 TO 9 P.M. OR 6 A.M. TO 9 P.M. IN REGARDS TO CONFORMANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. THIS AREA IS ON THE FM 1092 CORRIDOR AND IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE 2017 PLAN. THE PLAN IDENTIFIED THIS AREA AS COMMERCIAL CHARACTER, WHICH INCLUDES A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES. ADDITIONALLY, THE INTENT OF THE FM 1092 CORRIDOR AND THE 2017 COMP PLAN WAS TO EXPAND THE ALLOWABLE USES IN ORDER TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO MARKET REALITIES. THERE IS AN APPROVED PARKING PLAN FOR THIS PD AMENDMENT. THERE WAS AN ANALYSIS DONE BETWEEN THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, AND IT WAS FOUND THAT MOST OF THE SCENARIOS CAN BE ACCOMMODATED ON SITE, EXCEPT FOR A MAJOR USE OF THE LOUNGE SLASH BAR USE. SO THE REQUESTED ZONING AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUESTING AN INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY AND LOUNGE, A SCHOOL AND CHILDCARE CENTER, MEDICAL USES, AND THE REMOVAL OF THE HOURS OF OPERATION. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. THIS INCLUDES ALLOWING THE USE OF THE INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY WITHOUT THE LOUNGE, ALLOWING THE SCHOOL AND CHILDCARE CENTER, ALLOWING THE MEDICAL USES AND LIMITING THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES AND NOISES. PUBLIC NOTICE WAS GIVEN TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 250FT. AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE RECEIVED SIX PROTEST LETTERS AND 13 SUPPORT LETTERS. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THE PD SINCE IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP 25 YEARS AGO? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. AND IT SEEMS. IS IT NORMAL TO PUT RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL IN THE SAME PD LIKE THAT? YES, IS VERY COMMON. THAT'S WHERE WE

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HI. MY NAME IS RENEE HANKS. I'VE LIVED IN PLANTATION TRAILS FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS. I THINK THE PROPERTY HAS PROBABLY BEEN WAS EMPTY EVEN PROBABLY BEFORE THAT. MAYBE THERE WAS A COUNTRY ROAD ONE LANE, I'M NOT SURE, BUT LONG TIME. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE HAD A RESTAURANT, JOHNNY TAMALES. WE HAVE A SHOPPING CENTER, RETAIL ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WHICH IS 90% FULL. THERE'S ONLY ONE SPACE THAT'S EMPTY. THE SPACE ON THE LEFT, WHICH IS IN QUESTION OF PURPOSE, STILL REMAINS TO BE VACANT. I'M NOT SURE. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I DO RESIDENTIAL, THAT YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR TENANTS AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY BUILD IT. I HAVE SEEN OVERLAPS OF JOHNNY TAMALES PARKING. GO OVER TO BOTH ENDS, AND THAT'S DURING THE DAY. THAT'S DURING THE EVENING. SO IT'S A VERY WIDE SPACE, NOT VERY DEEP. AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT LEFT PARCEL IS VERY LIMITED. AND I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN PRE-LEASED BEFORE IT WAS ACTUALLY BUILT. SO NOW HERE WE ARE WITH THIS PROPERTY AND WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THE PURPOSE OF IT JUST SO IT CAN GET LEASED. I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S MY PROBLEM. THAT'S THE PERSON WHO BUILT IT. THE DAYCARE CENTER.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND TO BE OUTSIDE. THERE'S NOT ROOM. THERE'S HOUSES ON THE LEFT, THERE'S HOUSES IN THE BACK. AND THAT FENCE IS A WOOD FENCE. IT'S NOT EVEN A BRICK FENCE. AND IT'S ONLY SIX FOOT HIGH. SO WITH THAT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE JUST OFFICE TYPE FACILITIES IN THAT BUILDING, BECAUSE IT WON'T HAVE A LOT OF CAR TRAFFIC. THERE WILL BE APPOINTMENTS, THERE WILL BE ONLY SO MANY CARS THERE AT A TIME. SO I HOPE YOU CONSIDER THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE STANLEY. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. MY NAME IS STANLEY. I LIVE AT 2422 HILTON HEAD IN QUAIL VALLEY. I REPRESENT THE PROPOSED SPORTS FACILITY. SO IT IS A VERY TOUGH SPACE TO MANAGE FOR SURE. THOSE ARE ALL GOOD POINTS. JOHNNY MARLEY'S HAS BEEN AN EXISTING PROPERTY THERE FOR A LONG TIME, OPERATING A GOOD BUSINESS. THIS HAS BEEN A VACANT BUSINESS. KNOWING THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, GETTING CREATIVE. TWO THIRDS OF OUR PROPOSED SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THAT SPACE IS GOING TO BE RECREATIONAL PICKLEBALL,

[02:00:03]

THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUSINESS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THOSE LATE HOURS THAT THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT WE ARE AMENABLE, THAT IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS, WE CAN ADDRESS THEM, THAT WE ARE A COMMUNITY AS WELL, AND THAT WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT WE THINK THAT MISSOURI CITY NEEDS. WE DEVELOPED MURPHY ROAD.

CARTWRIGHT, WE TALK ABOUT BRINGING IN RETAIL BUSINESSES THAT YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT. THIS IS A VERY OUT OF THE BOX INTERESTING IDEA THAT WE COULD MAKE WORK, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY IN HOURS. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS A COMMUNITY WANTS TO BE SERVED, AND WE HAVE TO STAND UP ON OUR OWN TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO BE A PART OF. AS OWNERS AND OPERATORS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLOSE THAT. GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO. OPERATE THIS BUSINESS, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD ALL BET THAT THERE ARE MORE GOOD ACTORS IN MISSOURI CITY THAN BAD ACTORS THAT WOULD TURN THAT PLACE INTO A ROWDY SPOT, RIGHT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE. OKAY. THE CHAIR WILL SET THE PROPERTY OWNER APPLICANT IS HERE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL HIM OR IF HE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OWNER ON THAT? SORRY. CAN I TAKE MY TIME BACK TO THAT GROUP? SPEAK AND ACTUALLY KNOW MORE ABOUT. THAT? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU'RE STILL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. CHRIS GANEM, 4015 ROYAL PLANTATION LANE AND PLANTATION TRAILS. AND I AGREE, COMMUNICATIONS IS KEY BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION WAS REALLY HARD TO DIG UP ON THIS PROJECT. AND NOW I HEAR A LITTLE MORE. AND SO NOW THAT I'VE HEARD A LITTLE MORE, I THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FENCE COME INTO PLAY AND THE I MEAN, THESE ACTIVITIES ARE GOOD ACTIVITIES. I GOT NOTHING AGAINST THE ACTIVITIES IN THE SPORTS COMPLEX THING, BUT THEY CAN BE NOISY AND IT IS A SIX FOOT WOODEN FENCE BEHIND THERE. AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALL AROUND THAT, THAT CORNER THERE ON TWO SIDES OF IT. AND IF IT EXPANDS INTO THE PARKING LOT FOR SOME REASON, THEN YOU'VE GOT NOISE. AND IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE TIME RESTRICTIONS, WHICH YOU YOU OBVIOUSLY AMENDED THAT WHICH IS GOOD, THAT COULD GO ON TO VERY LATE HOURS OF THE NIGHT. AND IF WE END THE I'M GLAD THAT THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN WAS THE LOUNGE, THE NOISE AND THE LATE HOURS, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A DROUGHT. THERE'S ONLY TWO ENTRANCES AND EXITS OUT OF THAT STRIP, AND ONE OF THEM IS TO OUR SUBDIVISION'S MAIN ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE OFF OF 1092. SO THOSE ARE CONCERNS I HAVE. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, LIKE I SAID, IT SHOULD HAVE A BIGGER FENCE. NOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT TILL I CAME TO THIS MEETING. IT SHOULD HAVE A BRICK FENCE THAT'S EIGHT FEET TALL. SO. ANYWAY, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION. AND SECOND, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE AT ITEM TWO. CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. YEAH I WAS LOOKING AT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A MASONRY WALL. SO NO THE PD DOES

[02:05:03]

OKAY. WELL, CAN I CLARIFY? YEAH. SO THERE IS A LOUNGE ELEMENT, BUT IT IS A SMALL ELEMENT TO THE OVERALL BUSINESS PROFILE. YEAH. SO IT IS A ONE AND ALL. THERE WILL BE ALCOHOLIC AND NONALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES SERVED AS PART OF IT. BUT WE ARE AWARE OF THE OUTSIDE ZONING AND THE NOISE. NONE OF THAT WILL BE ACHIEVED. OKAY, I GUESS I GOT THE SAME CONCERN I HAD EARLIER, WHICH IS THE RULES HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 20 YEARS, 25 YEARS. SOMEBODY BOUGHT THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, THEY DEVELOPED IT WITH THESE RULES, AND NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T QUITE SUIT THEM A PORTION. THEY'RE GOING TO IMPACT IT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT PRIMARILY THESE RESIDENTS IN PARTICULAR THAT ARE CLOSE TO IT. AND I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH US WITH DOING THAT. WE'RE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER, IS ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES ON SUCH A LARGE AREA OR HELP IMPACT THOSE CHANGES OVER A LARGE AREA. SO. EFFECTIVELY. WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL USES. AND BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL. 20 SOME ODD YEARS AGO. RIGHT. YEAH. AND IS THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED, OR ARE WE AT THE TIME WE JUST I MEAN, NORMALLY WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CALL OUT A, YOU KNOW, VERY LIMITED SET OF USES UNLESS WE SPECIFICALLY KNEW THAT THOSE USES WERE GOING TO HAPPEN. AND IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? I MEAN? DO YOU MEAN EXCLUDING THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT? CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION? WELL, I GUESS SO. IF WE WERE TO IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT MEDICAL FACILITY. THAT IS A IS A USE BY RIGHT IN WHAT DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW LRRK2 JUST LRRK2. AND THIS IS LRRK2. CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING NEW OR THEY OR DID THEY EXCLUDE THAT WHEN THEY DID THIS? PD THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS BECAUSE IF WE HAD LRRK2 HERE, THEN WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT MEDICAL FACILITY. NOW, I UNDERSTAND DAYCARE IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, RIGHT. YEAH. AND I WILL QUALIFY THAT WITH. SO THE LRRK2 IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHANGE FROM THE PD. SO PERMITTED USES IN LRRK2 WOULD STILL CONTINUE. SO MEDICAL

[02:10:04]

BUT I MEAN THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T RESTRICT ITS USE I GUESS THAT WAY. SO THAT'S FINE. WE STILL HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THOSE SAME REQUIREMENTS. SO STATE REQUIREMENTS, CHILDCARE LOADING, UNLOADING ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS STILL HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S.

OKAY. WHAT WHAT HOURS ARE YOU PROPOSING HERE. WHAT'S THE EXTENSION OF HOURS. SO THE HOURS OF OPERATION LIMITATION WOULD GO AWAY. BUT THE NOISE WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO 6 TO 6 A.M. TO 9 P.M. OUTSIDE NOISE. THANK YOU. SO BASICALLY WE WOULD ALLOW THE BUSINESS TO STAY OPEN LONGER HOURS, BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED EFFECTIVELY TO HAVE ANY OUTSIDE ACTIVITIES PAST 9:00 OR BEFORE SIX. CORRECT. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO OTHER PLACES? I MEAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER US DOING THAT HOURS THING IN RECENTLY, AND THAT'S PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE IT FOR THE BUSINESS ITSELF, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME RESTRICTION ON OTHER BUSINESSES. HOWEVER, WE HAVE RUN INTO CHALLENGES WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO WITH THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE RIGHT ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL AND SOME OF THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES THAT MAY EXTEND BEYOND A CERTAIN HOUR. SO THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO MITIGATE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT THE BUSINESS ITSELF, OPERATING INSIDE THE BUILDING WHERE NOISE IS CONTAINED INSIDE THE BUILDING AND DOESN'T FILTER OUT, THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH HOW OTHER COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS ARE OPERATING NEAR RESIDENTIAL OR BEYOND. JOHN DOESN'T HAVE THOSE RESTRICTIONS, RIGHT. SO JOHNNY TAMALES IS OPERATING UNDER THOSE SAME RESTRICTIONS. AND SO THIS WOULD I BELIEVE JOHNNY HAS SOME SPEAKERS OR SOMETHING ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT THEY HAVE THE BUILDING. BUT BASED ON CURRENT

[02:15:06]

[a. Smoke Shops]

[b. Liquor Stores]

OKAY, THERE WE GO. OKAY. WE HAVE JOE TO HELP. OKAY, SO CURRENTLY SMOKE SHOPS AND LIQUOR STORES ARE USES BY RIGHT IN MOST ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. SMOKE SHOPS ARE CONSIDERED RETAIL STORES OR CLASSIFIED AS YOU KNOW, OTHER GENERAL KIND OF RETAIL STORES. YOU HEARD SOME OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED DURING THE PRESENTATIONS FOR THE MORATORIUM. SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT ALL OF THAT HERE TONIGHT, BUT I WILL JUST REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS THAT COMMUNITIES AROUND US HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO ENACT DIFFERENT ORDINANCES THAT RESTRICT THE LOCATION OF SMOKE SHOPS AND SOME OF THOSE AREAS. AND SO WHAT WE MAY EXPERIENCE IS THE INUNDATION OF THOSE RETAIL LOCATIONS COMING INTO MISSOURI CITY. SO THERE IS A MAP THAT WAS INCLUDED. WE HAVE ABOUT 20 PERMITTED OR OPERATING SMOKE SHOPS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THEY'RE ALL AROUND THE CITY IN ALL PARTS OF THE CITY. WITH ONE MORE THAT WAS STILL GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AT THIS TIME. WHAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD DO WOULD BE ESTABLISH A DEFINITION FOR SMOKE SHOPS, AND THIS BASICALLY CLASSIFIES THEM BASED ON THE PERCENT OF SALE. BECAUSE THE CLASSIFICATION INCLUDES ANY KIND OF RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT THAT SELLS A DIFFERENT SMOKE OR CIGAR, YOU KNOW, TYPE MATERIALS. AND SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S QUITE A FEW RETAIL STORES THAT AREN'T SOLELY SMOKE SHOPS IN THAT SENSE, THAT SELL THOSE TYPES OF PRODUCTS. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO PUT A PERCENTAGE THRESHOLD ON WHAT IS CLASSIFIED AS A SMOKE SHOP BASED ON THE PERCENT OF THEIR OVERALL GROSS SALES. OKAY, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS FOR SMOKE SHOPS. IT WOULD BASICALLY REMOVE SMOKE SHOPS THAT FALL

[02:20:03]

AND THEN JUST REALLY QUICKLY ON LIQUOR STORES, LIQUOR STORES PERMITTED USE BY RIGHT.

COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, VERY SIMILAR SITUATION IN TERMS OF WHERE LIQUOR STORES ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WHAT THE SAME ORDINANCE, SIMILAR SECTIONS WOULD DO IS BASICALLY REMOVE LIQUOR STORES FROM SOME OF OUR LESS INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. SO LQ2 IS MORE PROMINENT. WE DON'T HAVE MANY PLACES THAT ARE ZONED ELK1, BUT THIS WOULD ALLOW LIQUOR STORES TO BE LOCATED IN LC3, WHICH IS THAT REGIONAL ZONING DISTRICT. THAT'S ON SOME OF OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, BUT NOT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY. SO THAT WOULD BE THE CHANGE ON THE LIQUOR STORE SIDE. BOTH OF THESE ORDINANCES ARE HERE FOR YOUR DISCUSSION, AND IF YOU ARE READY TO TAKE ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION, WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST LET US KNOW IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE READY TO TAKE ACTION ON THESE PARTICULAR ORDINANCES. SO WITH THAT, YOU DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SMOKE SHOPS, AND YOU HAVE A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING FOR LIQUOR STORES. AND I WILL PASS OUT. WE DO HAVE ONE. COMMENT THAT SOMEONE LEFT. THEY HAD TO LEAVE THE MEETING FOR SMOKE SHOPS. SO I'LL PASS OUT THEIR COMMENTS AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR PUBLIC HEARING. SO THE LIQUOR STORES NON-CONFORMING USE THING APPLIES TO THEM. IF, IF THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED WITH THAT CHANGE THOSE LIQUOR STORES THAT ARE LOCATED. DID YOU HAVE A SLIDE FOR THAT FOR SMOKE SHOPS BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT? OH, I JUST DIDN'T GO THAT FAR. OH, OKAY. IT WOULD BE THE SAME RULES. ANY ANY RULE CHANGE. AN EXISTING LOCATION DOESN'T CONFORM, WOULD BECOME NONCONFORMING. OKAY. EVERYBODY, HOLD ON ONE MINUTE, PLEASE. JENNIFER, ON THE. IS THERE MORE THAN ONE PAGE SMOKE SHOP? I KNOW YOU MENTIONED 20. YES. THERE'S TWO PAGES. YES. I'M SORRY I KNOW THAT THE SMOKE SHOP WE HAVE CURRENTLY WE HAVE A 20IN MISSOURI CITY. IS THERE A NUMBER OR A MAXIMUM NUMBERS? ARE WE PUTTING IN PLACE? HOW MANY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE? FOR EXAMPLE, IF ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO CLOSE DOWN THAT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO 19 OR 18. ARE WE GOING TO BE PUTTING A ARE THEY GOING TO BE ARE WE ALLOWING ONE TO COME BACK ONLINE? SO IF THESE RULES GO INTO PLACE? WELL, LET ME START WITH RIGHT NOW THERE'S A MORATORIUM. SO. OH SORRY. SO NEW NEW APPLICATIONS FOR SMOKE SHOPS WOULD BE REJECTED. SO THOSE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE PERMITTED. IF THESE RULES GO INTO PLACE THEN THOSE 2021 THAT HAVE BEEN LEGALLY LOCATED, SO LONG AS THEY OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NONCONFORMING STANDARDS, THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED TO GO ON, BUT THAT NUMBER WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO INCREASE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES. THE CAUSE AND EFFECT AFTER THESE WERE IMPLEMENTED IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT YOU USED TO PICK OUT THE CHERRY PICK, THE BEST ONE. WHAT WAS THE DATA? WHAT DID IT SHOW ON THE HEALTH CONCERNS OR. WELL, WHEN YOU PUT WHEN THEY CHANGE THEIR RULES, WHEN YOU SAID THEY'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE FROM THOSE CITIES COME INTO OUR CITY. WHAT IMPACT WAS IT, ALL OF THEM JUST UP AND LEAVE. AND WE UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THAT DIRECT NUMBER. BUT IT'S PRESUMED THAT WHEN THE DOOR IS SHUT IN OTHER AREAS THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, SEE AN INCREASE IN DIFFERENT TYPE OF USERS, IT'S SIMILAR MARKETS, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IF IT WAS A MATCH FOR MATCH, IF SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO LOCATE IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY. BUT THIS WOULD PROTECT, YOU KNOW, THOSE AREAS IN MISSOURI CITY. SO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES BASICALLY IMPLEMENTED SOMETHING SIMILAR TO

[02:25:05]

CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. OH I REMEMBER OKAY. OH THAT'S RIGHT OKAY. SO IF THESE SINCE YOU'VE NOW GOT THE NONCONFORMING USE IN THIS EFFECTIVELY THE END GAME IS THERE'S NO LIQUOR STORES, THERE'S NO VAPE SHOPS BECAUSE EVENTUALLY SOMETHING'S GOING TO CATCH THESE. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO REMODEL OR CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU KNOW LIQUOR STORES IN LC3 RIGHT. SORRY. YOU CAN HAVE THEM. LC3 GOT IT. SO WE ARE KEEPING THEM IN. RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONLY THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU CAN HAVE. RIGHT? YEAH I WAS TRYING TO KEEP UP. I'M GOOD. WAIT A MINUTE. I DON'T WANT TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY. MY WIFE'S GOING.

DID WE DRIVE ACROSS THE COUNTY LINE? THERE WE GO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'LL HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

THEY SHOULD HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, COME FORWARD. COME ON. GO AHEAD AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE PHONE AFTER. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES, I'M JITENDRA MODI. I LIVE IN MISSOURI CITY FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, AND I DO HAVE A LIQUOR STORE IN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT. AND FIRST OF ALL, I HAD IT IN THE NEAR MURPHY AND HIGHWAY SIX NEAR KROGER COLONY LAKE. WINE AND SPIRIT. SO I DID THAT FOR 20, 25 YEARS. I OPENED IN 1999.

AND THEN WHILE I WAS THERE, I OPENED IT WITH THE HEB BY SIENNA PLANTATION. SO I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 17 OR 18 YEARS AND. IN MY OPINION, THE LIQUOR STORE SHOULD BE ONLY ON THE PD PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT LC, LC ONE, TWO AND THREE. AND WHEN I SAY LIQUOR STORE, NOT ONLY LIQUOR STORE, I CAN INCLUDE THE SMOKE SHOP. TO WHAT I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT WE DON'T ALLOW IN MISSOURI CITY LOUNGE. WHICH ONE THE IF YOU FAMILIAR. I'M SURE YOU KNOW ABOUT THE LOUNGE LIKE CIGAR CLUB PEOPLE THEY CAN AS A CLUB. YOU GO THERE AND SMOKE CIGAR AND RELAX. SO AND MISSOURI CITY WE DON'T ALLOW THAT. WHICH ONE IS. I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, WE DON'T NEED THE GAME MACHINE. WE DON'T NEED THE LOUNGE OR CIGAR SHOP. OR IF WE ALLOW, WE SHOULD ALLOW IN THE PD. WHICH ONE IS THE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT? PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT ONLY. ALSO, WITH THE NEW TERM LIKE A WEB. WEB STORE, THC AND WEB STORE, I AM AGAINST THE AGAINST MEANS, NOT PERSONALLY, BUT IF WE WANT THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY CLEAR CLIENT, CLEAR ENVIRONMENT AND THE CRIME FREE ENVIRONMENT, WE DON'T NEED TO BRING THOSE KIND OF TROUBLE CRIMES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. I MEAN, THAT FAVOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT CAN BE WORK, BUT IF WE ALL CAN GO TOGETHER, I'M SURE THAT WE WANT THE LIQUOR STORE ONLY IN THE. YEAH, IT'S NOWADAYS YOU CAN GET THE DELIVERY, SO DISTANCE DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. PEOPLE THEY GO TO GET THE MILK AND THE BREAD AND EGGS OR THEY CAN THEY CAN ORDER AND THEY CAN BE DELIVERED. ALCOHOL ALSO CAN BE DELIVERED. SO IF THERE IS A HYPOTHETICAL FIVE LIQUOR STORE IN MISSOURI CITY, MORE THAN ENOUGH, WE DON'T NEED THE 500 LIQUOR STORE IN HERE. WE ARE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT SCENARIO, NOT A COMPETITION OR ANYTHING. YES, COMPETITION. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE CAN KEEP IT ENVIRONMENTAL FREE AND CRIME FREE. CITY. AND AFTER 30 YEARS, I LIKE TO SEE THAT I. WELL, WHEN YOU LIVE 30 YEARS, THAT'S BECOME YOUR HOMETOWN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT. EXCUSE ME. THANK. YOU. CHAIR, IF YOU NEED TO SIGN UP, GO AHEAD. OKAY.

[02:30:18]

THAT'S WHAT THE LIQUOR STORE OWNERS ARE ASKING ABOUT TOO, BECAUSE WHEN THEY PASS IT ON OR SELL THE BUSINESS, IS THAT GOING TO BE THE PROPERTY VALUE NOW YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SELL IT OR CONTINUE ON TO THE NEXT PROPERTY OWNER. RIGHT? IT'S LIKE ANTI-BUSINESS. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. RIGHT. SO SOMETIMES SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT PRESENTED BEFORE ME, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN SUGARLAND. RIGHT? AND SOME OF THESE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE A REPUTATION OF WHEN YOU BUILD PROPERTIES, IT'S I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU GUYS. RIGHT.

SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS JUST DOING BUSINESS, THERE'S A NICKNAME, IT'S CALLED MISSOURI CITY, NOT MISSOURI CITY. MISSOURI CITY. ALL RIGHT. SO I HEARD SOME OF THESE FOLKS, THEY COME IN HERE, YOU KNOW, SUGARLAND WOULD MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES. I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE SOME OF THESE FOLKS, LIKE, WE COME IN HERE WITH A PLAN, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A LIQUOR STORE, RIGHT? A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND, LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A LIQUOR STORE, YOU HAVE TO RUN, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, RUN PAYROLL, RUN THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF. WE'RE SMALL BUSINESSES, BIG BUSINESS. ALL RIGHT? I'M JUST BEING UPFRONT WITH YOU GUYS. NOW, SOME OF THOSE FOLKS, THEY COME FROM OTHER, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT FAMILY MEMBERS LIKE SONS, DAUGHTERS THAT LIKE MOVE FROM MO CITY TO LIKE, NORTH SIDE. BUT WHEN THEY COME BACK TO MO CITY, THERE'S HUGE COMPETITION, RIGHT? SO THE PRICES ARE A LOT CHEAPER WITH ALL THESE LIQUOR STORES. I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS, BUT WE'RE GOLDEN LIQUOR. WE OPERATE AGAINST OTHER PLACES, BUT WE'RE IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER FOLKS. SO A LOT OF FOLKS SAY, HEY MAN, YOU GUYS GOT GOOD PRICES AND THEY COME FROM OTHER PLACES, AND THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE Y'ALL'S TAX REVENUE, RIGHT? THERE'S TAX RECEIPTS. SO THAT'S WHY SOME OF YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND LIKE A LOT OF THESE THESE RECEIPTS THAT COME IN HELP FUND Y'ALL'S THE FOR THE MO CITY'S REVENUE COMING IN. SO YOU GUYS GOT TO LOOK INTO THAT. AND ALSO SOME OF THESE SMOKE SHOPS THEY GO HAND IN HAND WITH LIQUOR. IF THERE'S A SMOKE SHOP THEY COME IN BUY SOME SMOKE VAPE. THEY COME TO THE LIQUOR STORE DOWN THE STREET. RIGHT. SO THESE ARE ALL LIKE TAX REVENUE, TAX RECEIPTS THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HELP DRIVE REVENUE UP. I KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE SOME OF THESE ARE LIKE MORAL ISSUES OR IMMORAL, BUT I'M JUST BEING UPFRONT WITH YOU GUYS. THESE A LOT OF FOLKS, THEY DON'T WANT TO GO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET TO SOMEWHERE ELSE. RIGHT? LIKE A LOT OF THE FOLKS, WHEN WE OPEN GOLDEN LIQUOR ON CARTWRIGHT AND MURPHY, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THIS IS AWESOME. WE DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN HIGHWAY SIX TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC. THIS IS ON THE WAY HOME FROM FROM WORK, RIGHT. THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT WHEN THEY GO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO DO MUCH LIKE U-TURNS. I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, TELLING Y'ALL SOME, SOME ASPECTS FROM OUR SIDE, FROM THE BUSINESS SIDE. SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE WHEN WE FIRST OPENED UP, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THANK GOD YOU GUYS OPENED UP. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO FEEL SAFE. THERE'S A THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S RIGHT THERE. I CAN COME IN, IN AND OUT SOME OF THE WINE, TOO. WE HAVE A LOT OF WOMEN THAT COME BUY WINE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO KROGER'S OR HEB TO BUY. WANT TO BUY WINE? THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC AND GO INSIDE THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THE LONG LINES. THEY CAN JUST GET IN AND OUT. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS, JUST AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. AND THEN WHEN THEY TAKE OVER. SORRY SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. AT LEAST PUT PUT A CARVE OUT OR AT LEAST A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXISTING THAT ARE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND, CHAIR, WE DID HAVE SOMEONE ELSE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK. THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP.

GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS SARAH FAGAN. I'M A PROPERTY MANAGER FOR PORTSMOUTH PROPERTIES AND NEWQUEST PROPERTIES. YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF OUR CENTERS. I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN TO JENNIFER BEFORE FOR THE THRONE AND BEES. WE ALSO OWN THE SHOPPING CENTER, FORT BEND TOWN CENTER, SO WE'VE DEALT WITH THE OTHER LIQUOR STORE. I DON'T PERSONALLY MANAGE THAT ONE, BUT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. ONE CONCERN FOR ME IS THAT WE'RE IN AN LC2 OVER AT OYSTER CREEK, SO THAT WOULD RESTRICT PREMIUM LIQUOR. AND SO LET'S SAY IF HE EVER DECIDED HE WANTED TO SELL WHAT HAPPENS. AND SO AND SAME THING IS WE HAVE COSMOS THERE.

AND THESE ARE BOTH VERY GREAT BUSINESSES. IF YOU DRIVE BY AND YOU LOOK AT THEM, I UNDERSTAND VAPE SHOPS AND LIQUOR STORES ARE SOMETIMES ASSOCIATED WITH NEFARIOUS ITEMS, BUT THESE ARE HIGH QUALITY BUSINESSES. YOU GO BY THEM, YOU KNOW THEY RESPECT AND ARE RESPONSIBLE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. AND ONE CONCERN BY US RESTRICTING ADDITIONAL USES OR ADDITIONAL THE USE IN GENERAL, OR ALLOWING ADDITIONAL USES IN THE MISSOURI CITY AREA, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO AN ISSUE WITH HEALTHY COMPETITION, RIGHT? WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER JUST TO DRIVE 20 MINUTES AWAY TO GO TO TOTAL WINE AND GET A CHEAP BOTTLE OF LIQUOR, VERSUS GOING TO YOUR LOCAL SHOP, BECAUSE NOW

[02:35:03]

DOES CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP WHEN A WITHIN A FAMILY CONSTITUTE. MAKE THAT NONCONFORMING GRANDFATHER GO AWAY. NOT NECESSARILY SO. SO LONG AS THE BUSINESS IS STILL OPERATING, THE CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP AND PAPERWORK WOULD NOT BE ONE OF THE CRITERIA. THE GENERAL CONCERN ABOUT EXISTING ONES WITH, WITH RESPECT TO CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP IS NOT AN ISSUE NOW, POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY NOT AN ISSUE. I WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY ASK SOMEBODY, WELL LEGAL HERE. I'M SORRY SIR. NO, I'M SORRY WE'RE DONE WITH THE PUBLIC PART OKAY. BUT WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE. IF THEY HAVE TO PULL A PERMIT TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, CHANGES TO THE BUILDING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHERE THEY GET INTO DIFFICULTY. RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF JOE WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS OR NOT, BUT STATE REGULATIONS REGARDING NONCONFORMITY IS PRETTY COMPLEX.

SO IT'S NOT A SIMPLE TASK. I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF ASPECTS.

CORRECT. IN FACT, I THINK THE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST TIME WAS IT'S REALLY HARD TO PUT SOMEBODY OUT OF BUSINESS FOR NONCONFORMING USE. YOU HAVE TO REALLY WANT TO DO IT. AND THE CITY MAY NOT BE PREPARED TO PURSUE THAT. I THINK THAT WAS THE, THE WHERE WE LANDED. IF I, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT WASN'T TERRIBLY LONG AGO. OKAY. OKAY. SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? IF ANYTHING, I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING. BUSINESS IS HARD ENOUGH. WELL, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT OR DO YOU WANT TO? THERE'S SOME SOMETHING SOMEBODY'S PASSIONATE ABOUT. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE OLD FUDDY DUDDY WHO SAYS, OH, THEY CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE I WOULDN'T DO IT. I MEAN, IF IT'S A VIABLE BUSINESS THAT'S PUBLIC HEALTH HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT. I DON'T SEE MUCH IN THE VERY NEFARIOUS ACTORS COMING TO MISSOURI CITY. AND. BY VAPE AND THEN DO SOMETHING BAD. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO FOCUS ON. I DON'T THINK THESE ARE. THAT'S MY MOTION. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO WORK ON. THESE TWO THINGS ARE LIKE, WELL, WE'RE CONSIDERING ONE AT A TIME. SO IS IT REASONABLE TO SAY THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T BE AN LLC ONE, FOR EXAMPLE? NO, I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST ASKING. OKAY. BECAUSE IN THIS BASICALLY IN SMOKE SHOPS, WE'RE SAYING THEY SHOULDN'T BE ANYWHERE. WE DON'T WANT THEM ON EVERY CORNER. YEAH, WE WANT ONLY THE CORNER THAT YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET. THAT'S THE QUESTION. WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE DON'T WANT THE WHITE BICYCLE. THAT'S THE QUESTION. THE PUBLIC SAFETY. YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A MOTION COMING. I'LL MOVE THAT. WE GOT TO TAKE CONSIDERATION. ONE, ONE ON EVERY CORNER, LIKE A CHICK FIL A. WE DON'T WANT TO BE OVERSATURATED WITH ANY TYPE OF BUSINESS BECAUSE IT IT IT BELONGS TO. WELL, IN IN THEORY, THE MARKET DRIVES THAT RIGHT. YEAH. AND WE KNOW IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT COMPETITION WILL WEED OUT YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING

[02:40:06]

SOMEBODY OR DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT OR WE JUST WANT TO JUST. YEAH. AND I THINK STAFF I THINK YOU LAID IT OUT. YEAH. I THINK IF THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS THAT YOU ALL WANT US TO BRING BACK, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THAT AND THEN WE'LL RESEARCH THAT AND BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE COMMISSION. SO IT. I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORING CITIES HAVE PUT INTO PLACE RESTRICTIONS. ARE THEY AS RESTRICTIVE AS THIS OR AND THAT'S THE ONE GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING, WELL SUGARLAND WILL DO IT ALL DAY LONG. WELL, WE'RE SAYING SUGARLAND WON'T DO IT ALL DAY LONG, RIGHT. AND THAT AND DIFFERENT CITIES HAVE TAKEN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACHES. SO THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE PUT RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF DISTANCE FROM, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN SENSITIVE USES. THERE ARE SOME THAT THAT RESTRICTED TO CERTAIN DISTRICTS. AND SO WE CAN PRESENT THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR EVALUATION AS WELL. SO LET ME FINISH ONE MORE ONE MORE THOUGHT OKAY. THEN GO AHEAD. IS THAT THE ONLY MOTIVATION FOR DOING THIS OR IS THERE SOME SOME OTHER THING THAT IS. NO, I THINK IT'S BEEN ARTICULATED. IT'S THE CONCERN THAT WE'RE OVERSATURATED. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE STARTED TO PUT THE NUMBERS SIDE BY SIDE, THAT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT WITH THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE WITHIN JUST THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR CITY. AND SO I THINK THAT'S DRIVING A LOT OF THE CONCERN IS WE ARE STARTING TO SEE THEM POP UP EVERYWHERE. ALL RIGHT. AND WELL, WE CAN TURN MY GAS STATIONS RIGHT. HE CAN'T BE ON ADJACENT CORNERS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. RIGHT. AND YOU MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT IT BEING MARKET DRIVEN. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THE MORE DEMAND, THE MORE BUSINESSES LIKE THAT THAT DO WANT TO POP UP IN CLOSER PROXIMITY. BUT AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO THE SMOKE SHOPS AND THE TYPES OF PRODUCTS THAT THEY SELL, IN LIEU OF THE FACT THAT THE STATE HAS SOME LEGISLATION THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I THINK THAT MAYBE WE COULD GO BACK AND REVISIT. WE DON'T WANT WE KNOW THAT THE OBJECTIVE IS WE DON'T WANT TO BE OVERSATURATED ANYWHERE. BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING CITIES? SUGAR LAND, PEARLAND, EVEN STAFFORD TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE THAT MAYBE WE COULD EMULATE? YOU KNOW THAT ALSO BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT THE BUSINESS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE OVERSATURATED.

AND THEN WITH ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE STATE LEVEL, LIQUOR TABC IS GOING TO DETERMINE A LOT OF THAT ALSO IN WHAT THEY CAN BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF SCHOOLS, DAYCARES. THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE OVERSATURATED. SO HAVE WE DONE A HUGE OVERVIEW OF ALL OF THAT? TO BE SURE, THAT ONE, WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A BUSINESS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME PUTTING SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THERE SO THAT WE WON'T BE OVERSATURATED BECAUSE LIKE WITH ANYTHING ELSE, I CAN NAME SOME OTHER BUSINESSES THAT I WON'T THAT THE MARKET HAS DEMANDED, SO TO SPEAK, AND THEY ARE THRIVING, EVEN THOUGH, IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE TOO MANY OF THEM IN A IN A CLOSE PROXIMITY. YEAH. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE DO HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM THE OTHER COMMUNITIES. AND SO WE CAN BRING THAT FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS RECOMMENDATION AND SEE IF WE CAN INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE ASPECTS. OKAY. AND I'M GONNA USE ONE WORD AND I'M GOING TO BE QUIET. WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL BECAUSE WE GOT TO BE FORWARD THINKERS, NOT JUST FOR NOW. OKAY. THEN WE'LL MOVE ON. ARE WE

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[c. Electrical Vehicle (EV) Charging Stations]

NOW WE'RE HERE. SO EV CHARGING EMERGING, YOU KNOW, AREA WHERE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF INTEREST AND WE'RE SEEING IT ON BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. SO WE KNOW THAT MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE PURCHASED ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC PROPERTY.

THE CITY IS LOOKING AT A PUBLIC PROPERTIES TO PUT DIFFERENT CHARGING STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'VE TALKED GAS STATIONS. THIS IS A COMPONENT TO THAT IS LOOKING AT HOW DO WE BETTER INTEGRATE THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, GO IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF, YOU KNOW, BECOMING TOO UNSIGHTLY OR HAVING THESE FACILITIES THAT ARE IN CONFLICT WITH OTHER AREAS. SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, THEY'RE PERMITTED WITHIN THE CITY. WE HAVE SEVERAL LOCATIONS THAT EXIST. THEY PULL PERMITS TO INSTALL. OBVIOUSLY, AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT IS A COMPONENT OF THAT. AND THEN DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, HOW COMPLEX OR HOW MUCH OF AN ALTERATION OTHER OTHER PERMITS MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL IS CREATING SPECIFIC REGULATIONS OR CARVE OUT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE DIRECTLY RELATED TO EV CHARGING STATIONS, CREATING A DEFINITION FOR CHARGING STATIONS, SPECIFYING THAT THEY ARE PERMITTED USES WITHIN ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS.

RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. SPECIFYING THE TYPES OF PERMITS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND PUTTING SOME PARAMETERS IN THERE. IN TERMS OF SIZE, THERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF SOME OF THE MODELS OR, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE BOARD IN TERMS OF SIZE AND SCALE AND, YOU KNOW, LOCATION, WHETHER IT'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SO LOOKING AT DESIGN STANDARDS AND DESIGN CRITERIA THAT WE CAN EMPLOY THAT WOULD MAKE THEM MORE, MORE SUITABLE FOR SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS, PUTTING IN SOME STANDARDS THAT DEFINITELY ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, THERE'S IDENTIFICATION OF A COMPANY, IDENTIFICATION OF WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OR SERVICE OF THOSE FACILITIES. SO THAT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO CONTACT THAT RESPONSIBLE PARTY. IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S SOME CONCERN, WE'VE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM SOME NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IN TERMS OF SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR LOCATIONS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. AND SOME OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, PLACEMENT, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE PLACED INSIDE GARAGES OR SOME THAT ARE PLACED, YOU KNOW, ON THE OUTSIDE OF, OF RIGHT OUTSIDE GARAGES OR IN THAT VICINITY. SO THERE'S SOME PUBLIC INPUT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THAT REMAINS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF SOME OF THOSE, THOSE AREAS AS WELL, AND THEN PROVIDING LIGHTING STANDARDS FOR SAFETY, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED ON A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND THEN SIGN STANDARDS AS WELL. SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE DO HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT VARIOUS CITY STAFF HAVE COMMENTED ON AND HAVE PROVIDED INPUT WITH. WE WILL BRING THAT DRAFT ORDINANCE TO SUBMIT IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR FEEDBACK, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE AN ORDINANCE FORWARD. AND

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SO I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. I USED TO RUN THESE PROJECTS IN CALIFORNIA AND ALONG CANADA. I GUESS WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT, WE'RE SAYING WE WANT NEW HOME BUILDERS TO MAKE IT STANDARD GOING FORWARD. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? BECAUSE NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT CREATING A SMART GRID, AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAN EV CHARGING, BUT ALSO TO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE STANDARD TYPE OF CHARGERS, WE WANT TO PUT IN COMMERCIAL AREAS. THAT AFFECTS OUR GRID FROM A LOAD STANDPOINT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER MAJOR CONCERN FOR US. I'M SORRY, I'M I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS GENTLEMAN. SO THIS IS MY WHEELHOUSE. THAT'S A MAJOR IMPACT. THAT'S A MAJOR IMPACT TO US. AND THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT THE FACT ABOUT THE RISK WITH VEGETATION AROUND THOSE AREAS.

THAT'S THAT CALIFORNIA ISSUE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BRING TO MISSOURI CITY. JUST SAYING.

YEAH. AND I WILL SAY THE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW ON THE STAFF SIDE HAVE NOT BEEN TO MAKE THIS A MANDATORY, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF THING. RIGHT NOW, THE DISCUSSION IS JUST ON REGULATING IT. YOU KNOW, ON ON THOSE THAT ARE TRYING TO INTEGRATE IT INTO DEVELOPMENT. WELL, THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT MR. PEARSON AND THIS OTHER SENIOR COUNCILMAN HAVE STATED. WE WANT TO LOOK AT IF WE CAN GET GROCERY STORES TO COME IN AND BRING THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO US FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THAT WHERE THEY'RE LABORING THAT BURDEN AND NOT THE CITY. THAT'S JUST MY RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO LET'S SEE WHERE ARE WE NOW. WE'RE GOING TO WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC. YES, YES, I MAKE A MOTION I SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ALL RIGHT. AND WE'RE GOING TO TABLE NUMBER TWO. ALL RIGHT. MAKE A MOTION. NO, NO, WE STILL GOT THREE MORE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT BUT I, I, I, I WANT TO MAKE A REQUEST ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT FOR THE MEETING. DON'T LET THEM TURN THE AC OFF AT 9:00, PLEASE, PLEASE. IT'S LIKE A SAUNA IN HERE. YEAH, IT'S. I NOTICED IT LAST MONTH TOO, AND I FORGOT TO SAY SOMETHING PROBABLY DIDN'T

[a. Comprehensive Plan Update]

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