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ARE YOU READY? YES. ALL RIGHT. THE. WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
COMMISSION MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. WE'RE MISSING A FEW PEOPLE TONIGHT. NOTED. WE'LL[3. READING OF MINUTES]
MOVE ON TO READING THE MINUTES. WE ARE GOING TO DEFER A AND B, AND THEY'LL BE ON A FUTURE AGENDA. SO WE WILL ONLY CONSIDER THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 13TH MEETING.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. O'MALLEY AND A SECOND BY MR. SILVA TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? ABSTAIN. WE'RE DOING. OH. I'M SORRY. WE'RE DOING OLD FASHIONED TONIGHT. OKAY, WE GOT THE VOTE RECORDED. ALRIGHT.
THANK YOU. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO COMMISSION REPORTS. CHAIR OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
I HAVE NO REPORT, COMMISSIONERS. ANYTHING TO SAY TO THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO
[a. Development Services]
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. I JUST HAVE A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. JUST TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING CASES ARE COMING BACK BEFORE YOU ALL. WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS OF GIVING, AT MINIMUM 30 DAY NOTICE TO OUR ZONING CASES. AND I THINK THAT HAS RESULTED POSITIVELY IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND REACTIONS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE YOU. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP FOR THE OCTOBER MEETING AS WE RESET SOME OF THOSE PROCESSES, THOSE ZONING CASES THAT MAY BE SCHEDULED FOR THE OCTOBER MEETING ARE GOING TO BE NOTICED IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAW. SO THOSE NOTICES WILL GO OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS AT LEAST TEN CALENDAR CALENDAR DAYS BEFORE THAT OCTOBER MEETING. WE ARE SENSITIVE TO ENSURING THAT ZONING CASES THAT MAY BE SCHEDULED THERE, THAT RESIDENTS ARE NOT INADVERTENTLY AFFECTED BY THAT. SO WE HAVE A SLEW OF ZONING CASES THAT ARE COMING OR BEING SCHEDULED TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THOSE HAVE THE LESS IMPACT THAT MAY BE SCHEDULED FOR THAT DATE. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT HEADS UP AS WE SCHEDULE AND CLEAN UP OUR CALENDAR AND GET READY FOR THE END OF THE YEAR WITH BRINGING THOSE ZONING CASES BEFORE YOU. AND AGAIN, AS MENTIONED TO YOU ALL AT LAST MEETING, LAST MEETING WAS A HEROIC MEETING. WE WERE HERE VERY LONG. YOU HAD A LENGTHY AGENDA. WE HAVE RESET THAT WHOLE SCHEDULE AS WELL. SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA IS NOW POSTED THREE BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE YOUR MEETING DATE. SO HERE WE'RE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY. THOSE AGENDAS ARE NOW POSTED ON THE THURSDAY PRIOR TO THAT MEETING DATE. SO THAT MEANS THAT THE COMMISSION WILL RECEIVE MATERIALS EARLIER, AS WELL AS BE INFORMED WHEN PUBLIC NOTICES GO OUT, SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE A HEADS UP AS TO WHAT MAY BE COMING YOUR WAY. SO THAT IS WHAT I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW, OKAY? DO WE? FORESEE A EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME ON THAT MEETING? NOT AT THIS POINT. WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO RISE TO THE LEVEL AS AS OUR AUGUST MEETING. THAT WAS A A VERY ENGAGED MEETING. SOME OF THE CASES THAT MAY BE COMING ARE MORE ROUTINE. SO WE'LL TRY TO MANAGE THAT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A PRODUCTIVE MEETING, THAT THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO BE HEARD, AND THAT YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. JENNIFER, ARE THEY GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ONLINE IN THE ZONING LINK? DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY DAYS AHEAD IS THAT? TEN DAYS. YES. AND WE WE UPDATE THAT ZONING WEB PAGE. SO FOR THE PUBLIC ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THERE'S A ZONING PAGE THAT ANY PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S SCHEDULED WILL PROVIDE THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING AND SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. WE UPDATE THAT AS SOON AS THE NOTICES ARE SENT OUT. SO ONCE PEOPLE OR THE PUBLIC START TO RECEIVE THOSE NOTICES, THAT INFORMATION ON THE WEBPAGE SHOULD BE AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON. WE HAVE THE QUARTERLY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REPORT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING.[00:05:02]
BEFORE YOU IS THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REPORT COVERING THE FIRST THE FIRST THROUGH THE THIRD QUARTERS FROM APRIL TO JUNE, BEGINNING WITH THE PREDEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, WHICH ARE APPROXIMATELY 31% OF THE TOTAL PLAN APPLICATION TYPES FOR THE THIRD QUARTER THIS YEAR, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, WE HAD 30 APPLICATIONS MEETINGS THAT WERE CONDUCTED, COMPARED TO 14 OF LAST YEAR. OF THOSE APPLICANTS OF THE PREDEVELOPMENT MEETING, WE DISCUSSED NEW RESIDENTS, NEW RESTAURANTS INCLUDING SUSHI RESTAURANT AND BAR IN THE TOWNSHIP SQUARE, POTBELLY AT 8225 HIGHWAY, SIX LANES, CHICKEN FINGERS AT OLD DAIRY QUEEN ON HIGHWAY SIX AS WELL. UTILITY EXPANSION TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING PHASE ONE WATER PLANT AT RANDY D PARK, FORT BEND COUNTY MUD 26, AND THE CITY'S MUSTANG BAYOU WATER PLANT EXPANSION, AS WELL AS NEW INDUSTRY, INCLUDING A SECOND LOCATION FOR LOGISTICS, DISTRIBUTION CENTER, AND CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT IN THE BUSINESS PARKS ALONG BELTWAY EIGHT AND US 90 A. NEXT, WE HAVE THE ZONING MAP APPLICATION AMENDMENTS. APPROXIMATELY 8% OF THE TOTAL PLAN APPLICATION TYPES COMPARED TO LAST THIRD QUARTER. WE HAVE SIX APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED OF THOSE APPLICATIONS WITHIN THE THIRD QUARTER INCLUDES FORT BEND COUNTY MUD 27, LIFT STATION, DESTINY CHURCH, MAJESTIC, MAJESTIC TOWNHOMES, ALL PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION WITHIN THE LAST MONTH. UPCOMING INCLUDES PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO TANK CITY PD AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY, INTERIM ZONING PROCESSES REQUIRING SITE PLANS AND CONSIDERATIONS FOR TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE IMPACTS. STILL STILL IN EFFECT UNTIL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. NEXT, WE HAVE THE SUBDIVISION PLATS, WHICH ARE APPROXIMATELY 34% OF THE TOTAL PLAN APPLICATIONS COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. WE HAVE 25 IN THE THIRD QUARTER SUBMITTED AN AVERAGE OF NINE APPLICATIONS PER MONTH, WITH ABOUT 39 OF THE APPLICATIONS. 17 OF THOSE PLATS ARE IN THE SIENNA SOUTH. APPROXIMATELY 1024 NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. PROJECTS OF NOTE FOR RESIDENTIAL IN THE CITY LIMITS CONSISTED OF PARKWAY CROSSING, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND FOR NONRESIDENTIAL INCLUDES HARMONY SCHOOLS, CITY IMPROVEMENTS AT STANGMORE PARK UTILITY DISTRICTS, AND PREPARATION FOR PERMIT ACTIVITY. NEXT WE HAVE PARKLAND DEDICATIONS, APPROXIMATELY 2% OF TOTAL PLAN APPLICATION TYPES, APPROXIMATELY 2% OF APPLICATION TYPES. WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED THIS QUARTER, SAME AS LAST YEAR, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE PARKLAND. DEDICATIONS CONSISTED OF ALEKSIN LAKE OLYMPIA, MULTI-FAMILY, AS WELL AS MEADOWVIEW ESTATES AND DEBUT AT LAKE OLYMPIA. NEXT, WE HAVE THE BUILDING PERMIT ACTIVITIES CONSISTING OF MAJOR AND MINOR LEVEL TWO PERMIT APPLICATIONS AND APPROXIMATELY 3% OF TOTAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED. OF THOSE PERMITS, WHICH ARE CONTINUING STRONG. THEY CONSISTED FOR A NEW BUILDING PERMITS, SAME TOTAL NUMBER AS LAST YEAR, RECEIVING ABOUT 171. NOTABLE PROJECTS INCLUDE A LEXAN AT LAKE OLYMPIA, ONE OF THREE APARTMENT COMPLEXES CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. RELOCATION OF BUSINESS INTO MISSOURI CITY, INCLUDING PAMELA PRINTING. EXPANSION OF THE NEW BUSINESSES INCLUDING KAMAZ AND TANK CITY PD, AND CONTINUED CONSTRUCTION IN THE FORT BEND TOWN CENTER TWO AREA INCLUDING SWIG, WHICH RECENTLY OPENED. WE ALSO HAD TRILL BURGERS AND IN THE SIENNA AREA, MD ANDERSON AND THE SIENNA OFFICE CENTER. AND LAST WE HAVE WE HAVE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, APPROXIMATELY 11% OF TOTAL PERMIT APPLICATION TYPES. AND THOSE CEOS CAN ISSUED OR FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL BUSINESSES. AND THE NUMBERS WERE ADJUSTED TO REFLECT NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND LASTLY, WE HAVE SOME IMAGES OF BUSINESSES[00:10:06]
THAT HAVE RECEIVED THEIR THEIR CEOS. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. HOLD ON. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ENGINEERING.[b. Engineering]
CITY ENGINEERING. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE SASHI KUMAR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER COME UP OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M ONE OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS HERE WITH OVERSIGHT OVER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I'M HERE TO AND VERY PLEASED TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW CITY ENGINEER WHO'S ON THE PODIUM, VINCENZO SOLOMON. CORAZZA. I HOPE I SAID YOUR NAME CORRECTLY. HE COMES TO US WITH ABOUT 20 YEARS OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, WITH TEN YEARS EXCLUSIVELY IN MUNICIPAL SETTING. HE'S WORKED FOR A NUMBER OF CITIES FLORIDA AS TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, FOR CITY OF TEMPLE, FLORIDA AS CITY ENGINEER, AND HIS LAST ASSIGNMENT WAS CITY OF MARYSVILLE, CALIFORNIA AS DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. I GUESS HE FOUND OUT WHETHER TO BE VERY CONDUCIVE AND MADE IT BACK HERE TO TEXAS. WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE HIM, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, HE'S ALSO SERVED OUR COUNTRY AND IS A US ARMY COMBAT VETERAN. SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING VINCENT. HE WILL LEAD AND ASSIST PNC AND THE MISSOURI CITY PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS OUR NEW CITY ENGINEER. WITH THAT, I WILL LIKE TO WELCOME HIM AND VINCENZO, IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS TO THE COMMISSION, IT'S UP TO YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION. SHASHI. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. AS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, KUMAR INDICATED, MY NAME IS VINCENZO CARROZZA AND I'M THE NEW CITY ENGINEER. I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. CURRENTLY, I LEAD A PASSIONATE ENGINEERING TEAM THAT OVERSEES CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES IN OUR GROWING CITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THIS COMMISSION INTO IN THIS GROWING CITY. SO BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WELCOME. SO ARE WE GOING TO COVER THE INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL UPDATE? YES, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE THEN. OKAY. CHEERS.ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AGAIN, VINCENZO CARRANZA, CITY ENGINEER. AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL OR THE IDM ESTABLISHES CRITERIA FOR DEVELOPERS AND ENGINEERS TO DESIGN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN MISSOURI CITY. THE IDM WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2019, AND WE TYPICALLY UPDATE THEM AROUND FIVE YEARS TO KEEP PACE WITH BEST PRACTICES AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS. A FEW MAJOR CHANGES THIS TIME AROUND INVOLVE ADDITIONAL STORMWATER DETENTION STANDARDS FOR ATLAS 14, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANTS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ON THESE REVISIONS, AND WE PLAN TO BRING BACK A FINAL DRAFT TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS. OKAY, BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIR. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN. PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION ON AGENDA ITEMS OR CONCERNS, NOT ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? WE
[a. CONSENT AGENDA]
DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM ONE CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR CITY RISE CHURCH MISSOURI CITY. ITEM TWO. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF MISSOURI CITY MUSTANG BAYOU WATER PLANT TWO. NUMBER THREE. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SIENNA. SECTION 77. NUMBER FOUR CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SIENNA. SECTION 82. NUMBER FIVE CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SECTION 84. NUMBER SIX CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FOR SECTION 70.
NUMBER SEVEN. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT FOR THE MARKET AT WATERS LAKE, AND NUMBER EIGHT CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF AMENDING PLAT NUMBER TWO. KANYE CATHOLIC COMMUNITY CENTER CATHOLIC COMMUNITY CENTER. ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION. ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION. DO ANY OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS? OKAY. SORRY, SIR. I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION. MY QUESTION WAS DO ANY OF THESE CONSIDER CONSIDER PLATS AFFECT THE CURRENT CITY
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PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON? THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. I WAS LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT. IS THAT A NEW CHURCH COMING OR IS THAT EXPANSION TO THE EXISTING FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH? IT'S AN EXISTING CHURCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'RE DOING OLD SCHOOL. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY. SECOND.SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SILVA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK
[a. Greyden Villas - Planned Development]
YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON, THEN, TO ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS. GRANDVILLE IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENT FOR OR AGAINST A REQUEST BY SERGIO SALAZAR TO ZONE AN APPROXIMATE 5.19311913 ACRES TRACT FROM OF LAND FROM R-1, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO PD TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY JUST OVER FIVE ACRES OF LAND FROM R-1, A RESIDENTIAL ZONING, TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH OF LIFEPOINT CHURCH AND SURROUNDED BY EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS AT THE INTERSECTION OF TRUESDALE AND VICKSBURG. THE PROPOSED PLAN WOULD PROVIDE FOR SMALLER LOTS, NARROWER WIDTHS, AND SETBACKS THAN CURRENT ONE A ZONING STANDARDS. HERE IS A TWO PICTURES OF THE SITE, BOTH FROM THE INTERSECTION LOOKING NORTHWEST OF TRUESDALE AND VICKSBURG. CURRENTLY VACANT. THE PROPOSED PLAN IS JUST OVER FIVE ACRES. PROPOSED 39 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS. THEY'RE PROPOSING PRIVATE STREETS WITH ACCESS TO TRUESDALE AND VICKSBURG, AS WELL AS AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE ADJACENT TO EXISTING HOMES. AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO CONSTRUCT IN THREE PHASES, WITH 13 HOMES EACH FOR EACH PHASE. CURRENTLY, THE SITE IS ZONED R-1. A. THE KEY CHANGES TO LOOK AT HERE ARE REDUCED SETBACKS. THE FRONT AND REAR YARDS ARE GOING TO BE LOWERED TO TEN FEET IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL, WITH SIDE YARDS UNCHANGED TO FIVE FEET. SMALLER LOTS REDUCED WIDTHS FROM 60FT TO ABOUT 35 FOOT, WIDTHS TO 40 FOOT, AND THEN THE AREAS WILL BE REDUCED TO ABOUT 3500 TO ABOUT 4000. FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LOTS. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO THE APPLICANTS LOOKING TO HAVE TWO STORIES INSTEAD OF THE MAXIMUM TWO AND A HALF STORIES. SO WHEN COMPARED TO OUR CURRENT 2017 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT DOES MATCH WITH THE PLAN IN REGARDS TO IT STILL BEING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THIS CHANGE WOULD BRING ABOUT MORE AND DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS TO THE AREA, AND IT WOULD STRENGTHEN NEARBY COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AND TAX BASE BECAUSE WE'D BE PUTTING MORE LOTS. SOME CONSIDERATIONS WE AS STAFF WERE LOOKING AT OR MAKING SURE THEY HAVE TWO CAR GARAGE PARKING PER UNIT SO WE CAN MINIMIZE STREET PARKING.THE COMPACT LOT CONSIDERATIONS WILL ALSO LIMIT PARALLEL PARKING. SO WE HAVE ONE SIDE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. WE ARE WANTING TO HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD EDGES TO ENSURE THE COMMUNITY FEEL OF THE AREA. WE ALSO WANT TO SEE HOA ENFORCEMENT FOR THE GARAGE USE, TO ALSO LIMIT THE STREET PARKING, AND THEN A PERMIT SYSTEM FOR THE RESIDENTS AND GUESTS ON THE PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING SIDE, WE STILL NEED TO DETERMINE IF THE DETENTION WILL BE ON OR OFF SITE. WE NEED TO CONFIRM THAT UTILITY CAPACITY WILL BE ALLOWED FROM FORT BEND. MUD 47. WE NEED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SUBMITTED FOR THIS APPLICATION, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PRIVATE STREETS ARE GOING TO MEET CITY STANDARDS. AND SO IN CONCLUSION, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WITH THE CONDITIONS BEING AGAIN TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BE SUBMITTED. THEY APPLY R-1, A PERMITTED USES IN DISTRICT STANDARDS. THEY FOLLOW THE CONCEPT, PLAN, HEIGHT AND AREA STANDARDS THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU. NOW THEY ENFORCE PARKING CONTROLS AND THAT THEY ALSO INSTALL AN HOA MAINTAINED EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL LOT EDGES. AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST. AND LASTLY, IT DID MEET ALL PUBLIC NOTICING REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS. HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE SIGN AT THE SITE. AND I DID ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE DID BRIEFLY PRESENT THIS APPLICATION TO THE VICKSBURG ANNUAL HOA MEETING
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ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THIS IS GEORGE. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. DO YOU KNOW IF THAT IS THE SAME DEVELOPER WHO WHO DEVELOPED THE GARDEN OAKS, THE SUBDIVISION RIGHT ACROSS? THAT'S CORRECT. ACROSS THE STREET, SAME DEVELOPER. RIGHT. AND THEY ARE GOING WITH THE COMPACT LOT DESIGN. YEAH.SMALLER LOT DESIGN THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY SURROUNDING IT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS DRIVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT TOTALLY CHANGED THE, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND WE BRING IN THESE CONTEMPORARY HOMES IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO OUR COMMISSIONERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT LOT SIZE COMPARISON. THE I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CALL THEM TOWNHOMES OR WHAT OFF OF LEXINGTON THERE BEHIND THE THE WALGREENS. WHAT ARE THOSE LOT SIZES? ARE THOSE 40 FOOT LOTS 35 OR 40 FOOT LOTS? 35 OKAY. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. BUT I DIDN'T GET OUT THERE WITH A MEASURING TAPE TO CHECK. BUT OKAY. YEAH. JUST TRYING TO PICTURE THAT AND SEE OKAY, OKAY.
SO WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO. PERNELL WASHINGTON. SORRY. I LIVE AT 35, 26 TRUESDALE DRIVE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE AREA THAT MR. SALAZAR. I GUESS HE HAS PROPOSED TO DO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. MAYBE I CAN PUT IT CLOSER TO ME. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. ARE. YOU THREW ME OFF NOW? YEAH. I WAS JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE MEANT BY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THAT NOW THAT I'M SEEING THIS GRAPH THAT HE HAS UP HERE, I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO. BUT IT WAS CONFUSING WHEN HE SAID HE'S GOING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND IN THE FUTURE IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE. SO EXACTLY WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT LOT? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN EMPTY FOR A WHILE. THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT GIVES THE DEVELOPER A WAY TO HAVE A SPECIAL SET OF LIKE RULES, BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THE EXACT FORMAT OF THE R-1A. SO IT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THE SMALLER LOTS AND ALLOWS THEM TO DO THE SETBACKS. AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO SPECIFY THINGS LIKE DOING THE, THE, THE GARAGE, PARKING AND ALL THAT. OKAY, SO IT'S JUST A IT'S A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE REQUIREMENTS ON HIM IN ORDER FOR HIM TO BUILD THESE HOUSES. AND IT IS SINGLE FAMILY, THOUGH IT IS SINGLE FAMILY, JUST LIKE THE ONES THAT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET. I THINK THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SINGLE FAMILY. YES, AND IT'S REALLY NOT FITTING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT YOU KNOW, IT GOT APPROVED AND AS I HAD ASKED, IT'S KIND OF VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT THERE OFF OF LEXINGTON, ACROSS FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. OKAY. SO I WAS JUST CONCERNED, BUT NOW I SEE THIS. MAYBE THEY NEED TO SEND THAT OUT AND I WOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE THE MEMO THAT HE HAS UP THERE. OKAY. BUT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUILDING, A SINGLE FAMILY OPPOSED TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE USE. YEAH. SO THE FUTURE USE COULD BE ANYTHING. WELL, IT'S IT'S IT'S SINGLE FAMILY. IT'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
OKAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE THAT CONCLUDES PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNED UP.
NOBODY ELSE IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I OPPOSED. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO TWO. CONSIDER CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A ONE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS, CONCERNS OTHER THAN COMMISSIONER ALREADY MADE HIS COMMENT ABOUT THE THE NATURE OF THAT. THE SMALLER LOTS BEING IN THAT AREA. I WILL SAY THAT I FEEL SOME OF THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STUFF CREEPING IN HERE REQUIRING A TIA AHEAD OF TIME. I YOU KNOW, I'M 39 HOMES TO ME IS NOT GOING TO BE A BIG IMPACT. SO IT'S LIKE I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE JUST SETTING THE PRECEDENT FOR FOR
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DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND YEAH, THE SMALLER LOTS KIND OF THREW ME OFF. I'M WONDERING IF PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THIS REALLY WAS LIKE. THE PERSON THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE AROUND THEM HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. BUT CLEARLY I UNDERSTAND THE.THE DESIRE TO HAVE A MORE VARIETY IN HOUSING CHOICES. AND THE DEVELOPER IS OKAY WITH A EIGHT FOOT MASONRY FENCE. CORRECT. THEY CONFIRMED TO IT IN WRITING, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S EITHER IN THE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THEIR HOA RULES COVENANTS, BECAUSE THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD REQUIRE. RIGHT? SO HOW MANY HOMES COULD HE BUILD IF HE BUILT TO THE STANDARDS OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS? JUST OFF A QUICK GUESS, EASILY HALF, MAYBE LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AT THE MOMENT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT 18 MAYBE HOMES GOING INTO THAT LOT IF THAT POTENTIALLY LESS. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S KIND OF MIMICKING WHAT'S GOING ON UP IN HARRIS COUNTY, HOUSTON, HOW WE'RE MAKING SMALLER LOTS TO KIND OF MAXIMIZE THE TAX REVENUE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE DOING. I COULDN'T SPEAK EXACTLY WHAT THE INVESTMENT PLAN OF THE DEVELOPER IS, BUT I HAVE SEEN TRENDS OF, YOU KNOW, SMALLER, LOTS EASIER FOR DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS TO BE ABLE TO GET IN TO THE HOME AND TO CAN BE A WIN WIN FOR BOTH PARTIES. BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF A THIRD PARTY. LOOK AT IT AS WELL AS, LIKE YOU SAID, ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAD FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO HAVE A DIVERSIFIED. YOU KNOW, INVENTORY OF PLACES TO LIVE IN MISSOURI CITY AND THAT DOES MEET THAT CRITERIA. YES, SIR. AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY HELPING SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AROUND LIKE FORT BEND TRAMMEL, FRESNO, HIGHWAY SIX WITH MORE ROOFTOPS. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. OH. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE ON THE PACKAGE OF PAGE NUMBER 98. I SEE SOME ELEVATIONS. IS THAT THE ELEVATIONS THE DEVELOPER RECOMMENDED, OR IS IT. THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THEY SUBMITTED. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. THESE ARE NOT THE ONES. LIKE I COMMENTED IN THE GARDEN, OAKS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT ELEVATION. THESE KIND OF GO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NOT I'M OKAY WITH THAT. YEAH. OKAY. NOW YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF REPORT? YEAH.
STAFF. THAT'S GOOD. FOR FORWARDED. FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, MAYBE. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE MOTION COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY, SECOND BY JOJO. WITH. YEAH. THE STAFF REPORT. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALSO QUICK REMINDER. JUST MAKE SURE MIKES ARE ON SO WE CATCH THE CONVERSATION. EVERYBODY MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONES ON. I SEE YOURS IS GOOD JOE. THERE YOU GO. GREEN LIGHT LOOKING FOR THE GREEN
[a. Smoke Shops]
LIGHTS. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO SECTION NINE. ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS A SMOKE SHOPS PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENT FOR OR AGAINST AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING THE USE OF PROPERTY FOR SMOKE SHOPS THROUGHOUT MISSOURI CITY. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS. SO WE ARE BACK. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE EXACT SAME ORDINANCE THAT CAME BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH. AND SO WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK TO REQUEST A VOTE AND RECOMMENDATION ON IT. IF YOU RECALL, JUST A BRIEF REMINDER ON WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS LOOKING TO DO RIGHT NOW. SMOKE SHOPS, THOSE TYPES OF RETAIL THAT SELL A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF A SMOKE VAPE PRODUCTS ARE PERMITTED AS USES BY RIGHT IN MOST ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. WE'VE RECEIVED CONCERN REGARDING THE NUMBER OF THESE TYPES OF SHOPS WITHIN THE CITY. COMMUNITY SURROUNDING US HAVE TAKEN VARIOUS LEVELS OF ACTION TO EITHER PREVENT OR REDUCE WHERE THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES CAN BE LOCATED. IF YOU ALL RECALL RIGHT NOW, WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER A MORATORIUM AND THAT MORATORIUM IS IN EFFECT FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER MONTH. THAT PROHIBITS NEW SMOKE SHOP APPLICATIONS FROM COMING INTO THE CITY. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AND HOPING TO DO IS TO ESTABLISH PERMANENT[00:30:02]
REGULATIONS PRIOR TO THE END, OR CLOSE TO THE END OF THAT MORATORIUM. THE ORDINANCE WOULD DEFINE WHAT IS MEANT BY SMOKE SHOPS. AND SO THE DEFINITION OF THAT IS WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN.AND WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DO WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY PROHIBIT SMOKE SHOPS FROM ANY OF OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. SO FROM THE DISCUSSION LAST MONTH, THE COMMISSION WANTED TO LOOK AT PROVIDING SOME OTHER GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF WHERE SMOKE SHOPS MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOCATE WITHIN THE CITY. WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU ALL IS A MATRIX OF WHAT SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES ARE DOING. AND SO I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT SOME OF THOSE METHODS THAT SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE INCORPORATING. AS WE KNOW, SUGARLAND HAS EFFECTIVELY PROHIBITED NEW SMOKE SHOPS FROM OPERATING WITHIN THE CITY. CITY OF ROSENBERG, RICHMOND, AS WELL AS PEARLAND HAVE ESTABLISHED CERTAIN DISTANCE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS AND LIMITED IT TO CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS. SO IT'S NOT ALL ENCOMPASSING OF ALL OF THEIR COMMERCIAL AREAS, BUT THOSE COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, THEY FURTHER REQUIRE BUFFERS FROM LOCATIONS SUCH AS SCHOOLS, DAYCARES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ANOTHER WAY THAT SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE EXTENDED REGULATIONS IS ON HOURS OF OPERATION. SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SMOKE SHOP OPERATIONS, THOSE SERVICES TEND TO PROVIDE 24 HOUR OR CLOSE TO 24 HOUR BUSINESS. SO SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE HOURS THAT THOSE BUSINESSES CAN OPERATE, THOSE HOURS CAN GO ANYWHERE FROM 10 P.M. ENDING AT 10 P.M. TO AS LATE AS MIDNIGHT ON SOME DAYS. SO WE PROVIDED THAT IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WILL WANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION AND GUIDANCE ON THESE POTENTIAL REGULATIONS, BUT WHAT WE WOULD ASK IS FOR THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED AND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT ORDINANCE TO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. JUST A REMINDER, ANY EXISTING SMOKE SHOP THAT IS LEGALLY OPERATING HAS BEEN LEGALLY PERMITTED, LEGALLY CODE BEEN ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF OPERATION IF THE STANDARD OR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. IF THE STANDARDS OR ORDINANCES CHANGE, THEY WOULD BECOME NONCONFORMING USES, SO IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY WOULD CLOSE DOWN IMMEDIATELY, BUT THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO NONCONFORMING STANDARDS. NEXT STEPS. ONCE THE COMMISSION HAS TAKEN ACTION AND PROVIDED YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WE WILL FORWARD THIS ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT. IS THERE A DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT REGULATES THESE? SHOPS? THERE REGULARLY SMOKE SHOPS. I THINK THERE'S AN ONGOING EFFORT FOR ATTENTION.
WE KNOW THE NEW LAW THAT WAS RECENTLY SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR. I THINK IT'S BECOME MORE OF A PUBLIC HEALTH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF QUESTION. SO I THINK THERE'S NOT ONE AGENCY THAT REGULATES ALL ASPECTS OF A SMOKE SHOP, WHICH IS WHY MUNICIPALITIES AND OTHER STATE HAVE BEEN HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED. WOULD THIS INCLUDE THE HOOKAH? HOOKAH? THE DEFINITION DEFINITION OF HOOKAH.
SO ANY SMOKE VAPE SHOP WOULD BE ALLOWED ALSO TO HAVE THE HOOKAH HOOKAH HOOKAH IT. YEAH. HOOKAHS ARE INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION. THE THRESHOLD WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE OF SALES WHICH WOULD DEFINE IT EITHER AS A SMOKE SHOP OR OTHER. SO IF THAT PERCENTAGE OF SALES MEETS THAT THRESHOLD, THEN IT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE DEFINITION FOR SMOKE SHOP. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION STAFF. BEFORE WE GET INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHAT'S BEEN THE IMPACT OF SUGARLAND'S REGULATIONS OF SHOPS PEAR LANDS? WE'VE PROBABLY RECEIVED MORE THAN OUR FAIR SHARE AND THAT IS TYPICAL. YOU KNOW, AS DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES TAKE DIFFERENT STEPS, WHETHER IT'S THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS OR OTHER, THEN IT TENDS TO PUSH THAT MARKET DRIVE THAT MARKET INTO OTHER AREAS. SO PROBABLY THE IMPACTS OF THAT IS, IS WE'RE WITHIN THE SAME MARKET AS MOST ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES. SO THE STEPS THAT THEY'VE TAKEN HAVE PROBABLY INCREASED THE NUMBER THAT HAVE LOCATED IN MISSOURI CITY. SO DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE THAT IT TOOK SUGARLAND
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TO PASS THE REGULATIONS? AND THEN THOSE SHOPS END UP CLOSING ME AS THE CLOCK TICKING. I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON THAT, BUT I'M SURE THAT THERE'S THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THAT TIMING. BUT THEY'RE NOT FORCING THEIR SHOPS TO CLOSE, ARE THEY? NO.SO THEY BECOME NON NONCONFORMING AGAIN. SO IT'S ONLY NEW ONES THAT ARE AFFECTED.
YOU KNOW IT'S ANY NEW APPLICATIONS. YEAH. OR ANY CHANGES TO THE. WELL AS WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH IT IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE FOR FOR THE CITY TO GO AFTER SOMEBODY IN A, IN A NONCONFORMING SITUATION. SO, SO I GUESS THE GOAL IS TO KIND OF CONTROL THE QUANTITY OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING SEEN IN THE CITY AND WHAT KIND OF PICTURE ONE PARTICULAR CITY PROJECT, A SMOKE SHOP ON EVERY CORNER. OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT'S A TRUE BEDROOM COMMUNITY WHERE IT'S FAMILY ORIENTATED? FEEL COMFORTABLE? I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THIS BOILS DOWN TO. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS GOING TO OTHER CITIES. LIKE YOU SAID, YOU SEE A LIQUOR STORE SMOKE SHOP, A BLOCK, A BLOCK A BLOCK, AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT. AND YOU GO TO STAFFORD, YOU SEE THE SAME THING. EXACTLY. SO YOU GOT TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT DO WE WANT TO PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY? WE'RE PUSHING FOR? THIS TEN YEAR PLAN IS FUTURE PLAN TO MAKE OUR CITY MORE ATTRACTIVE. WE WANT TO ATTRACT SMOKE SHOPS. DO WE WANT TO ATTRACT RESTAURANTS? WANTS TO GO. RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? WE DO NOT. WE DON'T. I'M SORRY. DO NOT. OKAY. I CAN'T HEAR YOU, I NEED YOU. DO WE MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? CLOSE. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SILVER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? YES. AND? AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO TWO. CONSIDER CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE. I DON'T LIKE THE WORDS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION 9A1. WHAT DO WE THINK? I'M NOT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG RIGHT NOW. WE WE HAVE A SMOKE SHOP. VAPOR SHOP. SO WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE IT PROHIBITED. CORRECT. ASK THAT ONE MORE TIME. AS OF NOW, WE'RE.
OUR MOTION IS TO CONTINUE BEING PROHIBITED FROM FROM ESTABLISHING ANY NEW. SO THE THE CHANGES, THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED WOULD SPECIFICALLY DEFINE WHAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE A SMOKE SHOP. AND THEN SMOKE SHOPS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED WITHIN ANY OF OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. AND SO THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE STATED WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS.
SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT EXISTING ONES. RIGHT? IT WOULD ONLY AFFECT ANY NEW APPLICATIONS.
RIGHT. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. WE HAVE CLOSE TO 20 OF THEM IN A LICENSED. OKAY OKAY.
RIGHT NOW. SO WELL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION. WE HAVE A MOTION TO FROM COMMISSIONER SILVA TO TO SUBMIT. SEND THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND A SECOND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BOWDEN. CAN I ASK FOR JUST SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY. OKAY.
DISCUSSION. CORRECT. SO BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR, LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE THE ORDINANCE. WE HAVE NOW PRESENT THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE NOW WHERE WE WILL NOT ALLOW. NO NO NO NO NO THE ORDINANCE NOW ALLOWS THEM ALLOWS IT. NOW THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO SAY YOU CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. RIGHT. OH OKAY. YEAH. THIS IS TO PROHIBIT THEM.
RIGHT. I, I ASSUMED IT WAS. THE NEW ONES ARE ALREADY THE ESTABLISHED ONES ALREADY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GRANDFATHERED UNTIL THEY REAPPLY FOR, FOR COMPLIANCE.
CORRECT. OKAY. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION? I'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
OKAY. ARE WE CLEAR ON WHAT THE. OKAY, SO WOULD YOU. SECOND, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING YOU SAID.
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YEAH OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GETTING REQUESTS FOR MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONES ARE TURNED ON. YES, YES. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION STILL HAPPENING WITHOUT THE MICROPHONES AND THEN SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. WITH A POSITIVE. WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION? YES, SIR. SECOND AND I WILL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A COMMISSION. OH. THIS IS HARD. I'M NOT USED TO DOING THIS OLD FASHIONED WAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLDEN TO FORWARD THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WILL BE TO PROHIBIT ANY NEW SMOKE SHOPS. BASED ON STAFF'S REPORT. THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WAS IN THE REPORT. SO YOU SAW THE CHANGES THAT STAFF IS PROPOSING AND LEGAL IS SIGNED OFF ON THOSE CHANGES. I'M SURE THAT THEY REVIEWED THAT BEFORE IT CAME TO US. AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY TO THAT MOTION. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WE WILL SAY DITTO. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE[b. Liquor Stores]
COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING THE USE OF PROPERTY FOR LIQUOR STORES THROUGHOUT MISSOURI CITY. YES.AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ORDINANCE, THE SAME SECTIONS THAT ARE IMPACTED BUT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH. SO LIQUOR STORES ARE PERMITTED IN VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS. LC2 LC3 WITH THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DO IS TO LIMIT THE SALE OR WHAT'S A CONSIDERED A LIQUOR STORE TO OUR LC3 DISTRICT ONLY, SO IT WOULD NO LONGER BE A PERMITTED USE IN THE LC2 OR THE LC1, WHICH IS MORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. BUT THE LC3, WHICH IS MORE THE REGIONAL DISTRICTS THAT ARE ALONG THE HIGHER TRAFFIC ROADWAYS. SO THIS IS NOT A PROHIBITION ON LIQUOR STORES, BUT THIS IS TO NARROW THE LOCATIONS THAT LIQUOR STORES CAN OPERATE. SO I DON'T EVEN DRINK, BUT I HAVE TO PICK UP A BEVERAGE OR TWO FOR THE WOMEN THAT LIVE IN MY HOUSE. YOU'RE SAYING THAT I NEED TO DRIVE FARTHER WITH THIS TO GET A BOTTLE OF WINE? AM I JUST PARAPHRASING? WELL, NO, BECAUSE YOU CAN. YOU CAN GET IT AT KROGER AND H-E-B. BUT I HAVE TO GO TO HIGHWAY SIX. OKAY, I CAN'T GO TO MURPHY AND WELL, UNLESS IT'S ALREADY THERE, UNLESS THEY'RE THERE ALREADY. SO THE GAS STATION AT SHELL, ARE THEY IN THIS IF THEY NEED TO REMODEL ANYTHING, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT THEY ARE IN NONCONFORMANCE. IF THEY SELL BEER AND WINE. WELL, SO THE THE ORDINANCE HERE IS SPECIFICALLY LIQUOR STORES. SO IT'S LIQUOR. YEAH. IT'S JUST THOSE BUSINESSES THAT THAT IS THEIR PRIMARY BUSINESS. SO THOSE OTHER OPERATORS THAT HAPPEN TO SELL ALCOHOL, SO LIKE OUR GROCERY STORES OR EVEN OUR PHARMACIES OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES, THOSE WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY THIS CHANGE. SO THE PERCENTAGE THAT YOU HAVE ON SMOKE SHOPS, THAT YOUR PERCENTAGE OF YOUR SALES ARE VAPES. AND BUT WITH THE GAS STATION THAT SELLS WINE OR THE WINE IS NOT INCLUDED, WHAT IS LIQUOR? I MEAN, I DON'T LIKE I SAID, I DON'T EVEN DRINK, BUT IT'S WINE IS WELL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL LICENSE TO SELL PACKAGED LIQUOR. YEAH. OKAY.
FROM FROM JUST LIQUOR. CORRECT. LIKE ANYTHING OVER 30 PROOF OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS, BUT IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, KROGER DOESN'T SELL LIQUOR BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A LICENSE TO SELL LIQUOR, BUT THEY SURE SELL WINE AND BEER ALL, ALL DAY LONG. MOST GAS. I DON'T THINK ANY GAS STATION CAN SELL LIQUOR EITHER. NOT IN TEXAS. JUST BEER AND WINE. OKAY, SO IT DOESN'T. IT ONLY AFFECTS THE PLACES THAT SELL ACTUAL BOTTLES OF LIQUOR.
I WOULD THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THE PLACES THAT ARE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS ARE OKAY. I MEAN, THAT MAKES SENSE. I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD A PROBLEM. OF COURSE, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR LIQUOR STORES, BUT DO WE HAVE A A HUGE INFLUX OF LIQUOR STORES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, I THINK SIMILAR TO THE DISCUSSION ON SMOKE SHOPS, AS WE HAVE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE STORES TEND TO OPERATE OR TRY
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TO SET UP OPERATIONS. AND IT COULD BE FOR, YOU KNOW, A SLEW OF REASONS. BUT THERE ARE PERCEPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT POINT TAKEN. AND THE 9:00 TIME LIMIT IS STILL THERE. 9 P.M. IT SHUTS DOWN AFTER THAT. SO YEAH, THE STATE REGULATES THEIR HOURS OF BUSINESS, RIGHT? YES. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE FOR CONTINUE THE THE THE NOT CONTINUE BUT KEEP THE SAME.THESE ARE NEW ORDINANCES, NEW ORDINANCE. AND THIS THIS WOULD CHANGE. THIS WOULD LIMIT THE LOCATIONS THAT NEW LIQUOR STORES CAN BE ESTABLISHED FROM TO OUR THE LC LC THREE. OKAY.
AND DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES WE DO. TANTRUM MODE. YES. COME FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME CLEARLY AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. CAN YOU PASS THIS TO. OKAY. LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I GAVE A BRIEF ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS LIQUOR STORE IS A MORE THAN BEER AND WINE. THEY ARE UP TO 13 TO 14 UNDER 15%. ANYTHING OVER? LET'S GIVE 5% MORE. SO 20% AND MORE GROCERY STORE. THEY CANNOT SELL IT. AND SO IT'S BASED ON A PERCENTAGE OF ALCOHOL IN THE IN THE BOTTLE OR THE CORRECT CORRECT. THAT MAKES SENSE. SO CONVENIENCE STORE, GROCERY STORE. THEY SELL BEER AND WINE. WHICH ONE IS OKAY. IT'S A LIGHT ALCOHOL LIGHT BEVERAGE. HOWEVER THE ALCOHOL ALCOHOL WHICH ONE IS MORE THAN 20% IS CONSIDERED AS ALCOHOL. A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS IT TO YOU. WHICH ONE? I DON'T HAVE IT HERE, BUT LATELY LAST ABOUT AFTER THE COVID AFTER PANDEMIC. ALL THE CONVENIENCE STORES, THEY START TO OPEN UP THE LIQUOR STORE. WHICH ONE IS THE 1000FT OR 500FT AWAY FROM THEIR GROCERY STORE? THEY HAVE A LIQUOR STORE AND THAT'S EXAGGERATE THE LOCATION OF THE LIQUOR STORE.
NOW, HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HEALTHY AND CRIME FREE ENVIRONMENT NOW LIQUOR STORE.
THEY CLOSE AT 9:00. HOWEVER, MORE CRIME CAN BE CREATE DEVELOPED THROUGH THE LIQUOR.
SO AS A CITY I WOULD. I'VE BEEN IN THIS MISSOURI CITY FOR THE LAST 28 YEARS AND I HAVE I HAVE DONE LIQUOR BUSINESS PRACTICE IN MY WHOLE CAREER IN MISSOURI CITY. THE GOOD THING I WAS NEAR KROGER AT HIGHWAY SIX AND UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD, FM 1092 SINCE 1999, AND I CLOSE THAT IN 2021. AND I WAS DURING THAT TIME. I RELOCATED NEAR HEB AT HIGHWAY SIX AND SIENNA. SO WHERE I WAS IS VERY HIGH SKILL PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE. THEY PURCHASE IN THE MORNING TIME DAYTIME. I DON'T HAVE ANY LATE NIGHT OR ANY KIND OF DARK. HOW CAN I PUT IT? INAPPROPRIATE TRAFFIC. AND SO IF YOU RUN THE LIQUOR BUSINESS IN A CERTAIN STANDARD, YOU CAN AVOID SOME KIND OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. AND SOME OF THE THINGS SMOKE SHOP AT THE SAME WAY. SO I'M IN THAT FAVOR THAT WE SHOULD CONTROL THE NUMBER OF THE LOCATIONS. AND NOW I'M COMING. HOW CAN WE DO? THE SOLUTION IS AS THE PERMIT RENEWAL COMES, YOU CAN ADVISE THEM THAT EITHER YOU RELOCATE YOUR BUSINESS OR FIND ANOTHER PLACE WHICH CAN BE ALLOWED. SO NUMBER TWO AND THREE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE LC TWO. AND LC THREE NEEDS TO BE STOPPED BECAUSE THOSE ARE CLOSE TO THE RESIDENCE AREA. EARLIER, SOMEBODY I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT IF YOU GO OUT AND LIQUOR IS RIGHT THERE, IT SHOULD BE THE MILK SHOULD BE RIGHT. REACH OUT, NOT THE ALCOHOL. I'M SORRY, SIR, THAT CONCLUDES YOUR THREE MINUTES. SURE. SO. AND WE CAN PUT A LIMIT UNDER LIKE ONE FAMILY CAN HAVE ONLY ONE LOCATION. SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THOUGHTS. I'M SORRY. YOUR
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THREE MINUTES IS UP. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? SO SORRY. YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT? ALL WE'RE SAYING IS YOU CAN'T OPEN A LIQUOR STORE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? CORRECT.LOCATION? IT'S A COMMERCIAL LOCATION IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU CAN OPEN LIQUOR STORES IN, IN NEXT TO KROGER OR HEB ALL YOU WANT, RIGHT? EXACTLY. OKAY. AND SO PROBABLY THE MOST THE BIGGEST CHANGE TO THIS IS AN LC2 LOCATION. SO LC2 IS, IS IS A LESS INTENSE COMMERCIAL AREA.
RIGHT. TRYING TO THINK OF ONE. THAT'S CARTWRIGHT WELL OR CARTWRIGHT OR EVEN EVEN LAST MONTH WE HAD THE RIGHT OFF OF INDEPENDENCE. RIGHT. THAT THAT'S ALL LC2. SO BY THAT BIG BIGGY GAS STATION. RIGHT. YOU CAN'T OPEN A LIQUOR STORE THERE. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO OPEN A LIQUOR STORE THERE IN THE FUTURE, WHEREAS TODAY YOU COULD. OKAY, SO THIS ORDINANCE IS SAYING YOU CAN'T OPEN A LIQUOR STORE THERE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE IN KROGER OR HEB OR ANY OF THOSE, ANY OF THOSE RETAIL CENTERS ALL UP AND DOWN HIGHWAY SIX AND HIGHWAY 90 AND, AND ACTUALLY QUITE A FEW OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO. OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS, IS STARTING AT IF YOU HAVE EXISTING LIQUOR STORES IN ANY OF THOSE LOCATIONS IN, IN REALITY, YOU'RE NOT REALLY AFFECTED BY THIS. YOU CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE. CORRECT. AND AND THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS AROUND THAT. AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT TO ARTICULATE EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS IS BECAUSE EVERY EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD IS A VERY ONEROUS PROCESS IN ORDER TO ENFORCE THE, THE RESTRICTIONS AROUND A NON-CONFORMING USE AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THAT BUSINESS OUT OF BUSINESS. OKAY. RIGHT. HOW ABOUT SELLING THE BUSINESS WHEN THEY'RE READY TO SELL OR WHEN THEY SELL THE BUSINESS? CAN WE PUT THE PROHIBITED TO SELL THAT BUSINESS? I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT NOT A LEGAL PERSON.
SO IF THE SALE OF A BUSINESS JUST TO BE. YEAH. SO IT CONTINUES TO OPERATE THOUGH, RIGHT. TO STOP A NONCONFORMING USE UNDER STATE LAW REQUIRES A SPECIFIC ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL. RIGHT. BUT THE ABSENCE OF THAT ACTION BY CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. NONCONFORMING. SO ONLY THE MAIN THING THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED IS IF YOU CLOSED AND SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO COME OPEN THAT STORE TEN, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS LATER, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, THAT'S ALL. IF YOU SOLD THAT BUSINESS AND IT CONTINUED TO OPERATE, THEN IT STILL FALLS UNDER THE CLAUSE.
AS LONG AS YOU CONTINUE TO OPERATE, THEN YOU STILL ARE NONCONFORMING USE. BUT THAT BASICALLY THE CITY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I SEE OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE TIED UP? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. SO POSITIVE RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION. WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORLEY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BAILEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON 9B1. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. DO WE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE OR WHAT WHAT THE ORDINANCE STATES. I REALIZED HOW BORING I AM. IS NONE OF THIS MATTERS. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE, MAKE MAKE A MOTION TO SEND THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AS WRITTEN BY STAFF. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALI TO FORWARD THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
OPPOSED? SEEING? NONE. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT, THEN, WE WILL MOVE ON TO
[a. Comprehensive Plan Update]
ITEM TEN. OTHER MATTERS. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS OUR FINAL ITEM FOR TONIGHT. AND I'M LOVING ENJOYING HEARING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPOKEN AS WE GO THROUGH OUR AGENDAS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH[00:55:05]
BRINGING THOSE AMENDMENTS FORWARD TO YOU ALL, IT'S REALLY STARTING TO KIND OF MESH AND INTEGRATE IN THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEING SPOKEN. QUICK UPDATE. SO THIS IS THE SCHEDULE AS LAST PRESENTED. WE ARE WELL INTO SEPTEMBER NOW. SO WE WILL HAVE THIS SCHEDULE ADJUSTED.WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS WE DO HAVE THE SECOND QUESTIONNAIRE SURVEY THAT HAS BEEN LIVE AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INPUT AND RESPONSE. AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE THAT PROCESS. AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE. FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. WE ARE WORKING TO SECURE RESOURCES TO HELP VISUALIZE AND BRING TO LIFE SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO THAT YOU ALL CAN GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS MIGHT TRANSLATE INTO IN TERMS OF REAL DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD OCCUR IN SOME OF THESE KEY AREAS. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON AS A STAFF TEAM, HOPING TO ENGAGE A CONSULTANT TO HELP BRING SOME IMAGES BEFORE YOU ALL. AND THEN WE WILL RECONVENE BOTH THIS BODY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL SO WE CAN START THE PROCESS TO CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN AND THE SURVEYS. SO AT EACH COMMISSIONERS STATION THERE ARE SURVEY CARDS. AND SO REQUESTS THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO FILL OUT THIS MANY.
YES. WE'RE ASKING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TAKE THE STACK, HAND IT TO YOU ALL. SO THIS IS THIS HAS A QR CODE THAT LINKS DIRECTLY TO THE SURVEY. AND SO THE SURVEY HAS BEEN OPEN SINCE LATE AUGUST. WE ARE SCHEDULED TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR PUBLIC INPUT THROUGH OCTOBER 10TH. AND THAT GIVES US A CHANCE FOR REACHING OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS AT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT THAT FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, AS WELL AS ANY COMMUNITY EVENT, PUBLIC EVENT, OR JUST STANDARD ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS CHALLENGE YOU ALL AS COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, BUT DEFINITELY OUR COMMISSIONERS TO HELP REACH A GOAL. SO WE HAVE SET A GOAL TO RECEIVE AT LEAST 300 RESPONSES ON THE SURVEY. SO WE WANT TO PUT THIS INTO THE HANDS OF THE COMMISSIONERS. THAT'S WHY YOU ALL HAVE CARDS, AND WE'RE CHALLENGING YOU ALL TO REACH AT LEAST 20 OF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RESIDENTS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP HELP REACH THAT GOAL. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TAG YOU ALL. WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE BACK END SIDE. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AREAS THAT YOU ALL WANT US TO CONSIDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS MESSAGE IS GETTING OUT. WE'VE HEARD THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF ENGAGING OUR HOA'S, MAKING SURE THAT WE USE THEIR COMMUNICATION CHANNELS AS WELL AS ANY OTHER COMMUNICATION CHANNEL WE HAVE AVAILABLE, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT SO THAT WE CAN HELP SHAPE THIS PLAN. SO HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE FROM THE HOA? SO NOT QUITE YET. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH, LIKE JUSTIN MENTIONED, TO BE ABLE TO JOIN THE VICKSBURG HOA EARLIER THIS MONTH AND THEN ALSO CREEK MONTH. WE WERE ABLE TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH THEIR HOA AS WELL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WILLING TO GO TO ANY HOA MEETING OR, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF EVENT SO THAT WE CAN HELP PUBLICIZE THIS INFORMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY. MAY I ASK, HOW DO WE GET THAT DATE OF OCTOBER 10TH TO CLOSE? IS THAT THE DROP DEAD DATE, OR IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE DURATION OF HOW LONG THE SURVEY HAS BEEN OPEN? SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THE SURVEY OPEN FOR AT LEAST 30 DAYS BECAUSE BUT THAT 30 DAY PERIOD WAS JUST SHY OF NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. AND WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE RESIDENTS IN THAT ENVIRONMENT AS WELL CAN HELP INCREASE UNDERSTANDING, KNOWLEDGE AND INPUT OPPORTUNITIES. SO WE JUST EXTENDED IT TO THAT DATE. AT SOME POINT, WE WILL HAVE TO CLOSE IT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BROUGHT BEFORE BOTH BODIES, THIS BODY AND THE COUNCIL HAS THAT PUBLIC INPUT. AND SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS FORWARD. ABOUT HOW MANY QUESTIONS ON THIS QUESTIONNAIRE I JUST GOT I THINK IT'S ABOUT EIGHT QUESTIONS. IT'S TIMED AT FIVE MINUTES. WE INTENTIONALLY TRY TO MAKE IT VERY SHORT. WE CAN TELL THE RECIPIENT, HEY, THIS WILL TAKE YOU FIVE MINUTES, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT MATTERS, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU.
JENNIFER, DO YOU KNOW IF WE ARE HAVING THIS ONE ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM? YES, YES. AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM ACTUALLY HELPS US PUT THIS TOGETHER. AND THEN I'VE SEEN IT
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ON THE SIGNS IT. SO YEAH. SO WE ARE WE'RE DEFINITELY ENGAGED WITH THEM. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MESSAGE IS PUSHED OUT OKAY. SO THAT'S YOUR LAST SLIDE.THAT IS MY LAST SLIDE. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW WAS THE OPEN HOUSE. ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THE TOWN HALL, THE TOWN HALL. HOW WAS THE TOWN HALL? IT WAS IT WENT VERY WELL.
OKAY. SO WE DID WE DID HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE PUBLIC THAT ATTENDED THAT TOWN HALL.
WE WERE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE SURVEY CARDS. WE ALSO HAD SURVEY STATIONS FOR A FEW PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE AT THAT MEETING. THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST, A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AROUND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND UNIFORMITY. YOU KNOW, KIND OF OF THE THE GOALS. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT EXPRESSED. IT WAS THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CONCERNS EXPRESSED AS WELL. BUT OVERALL, WE GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE ARE NOW TO ITEM TWO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION INPUT AND DISCUSSION.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO TELL STAFF. WELL THE ONE THING IS WHEN YOU GUYS MET WITH VICKSBURG AND YOU PRESENTED THAT YOU PRESENTED TONIGHT, IS THAT WHAT YOU DID? THAT IS SO SMART? I MEAN, JUST THINK ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES ALL THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THESE HOMES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THESE PLANS, THAT ARE GOING UP AROUND THEM, THEY'RE ON THE LIST TO BE NOTIFIED, AND YOU'RE BEING PROACTIVE TO MEET WITH THEM AND TO ANSWER THEIR DISCUSSIONS. AND MAYBE THE DEVELOPERS THERE, MAYBE DEVELOPERS NOT, BUT YOU'RE THERE TO PROTECT THE CITY RESIDENTS INTEREST AND YOU'RE THERE. AND IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO COME TO GREAT, THAT IS SO SMART TO DO. AND HONESTLY, 20 WHATEVER YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HEARD OF A TEAM GOING TO AN HOA. THAT'S AWESOME.
GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT IS THAT THE EXTENT OF OUR DISCUSSION? YEAH. I MEAN, REALISTICALLY, WE'RE JUST KIND OF WAITING FOR THE FINAL PRODUCT, RIGHT? OKAY. OH, WE HAD A PUBLIC NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS. RIGHT. OKAY. SO WASN'T REALLY A PUBLIC HEARING. IT WAS A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE DONE. THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE MOTION. LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. COMMISSIONER MALLEY SAID IT'S TIME TO ADJOURN, COMMISSIONER. SO SECOND TO THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.