[3. READING OF MINUTES] [00:02:11] AND. A SECOND. GO AHEAD AND PLACE YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU. MOVING ON. ONE MOMENT. I'M SORRY. WE DIDN'T CATCH COMMISSIONER BOLDEN'S VOTE. IF YOU COULD DO THAT AGAIN, PLEASE. OKAY. IF YOU CAN VOTE. GO AHEAD AND VOTE AGAIN, PLEASE. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. MOTION STILL CARRIES. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. COMMISSIONER REPORTS, CHAIR OF [a. Development Services] THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. I HAVE NO REPORT. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. STAFF REPORTS, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. YES. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS. JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON CONFERENCES OF THE PLANNING STAFF ATTENDED LAST MONTH, THE ANNUAL STATE TEXAS AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION PLANNING STAFF WAS ABLE TO ATTEND WITH OTHER PLAYERS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THEY CONTINUE TO NETWORK ON DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THAT THE CITY CAN USE. SO THERE WERE A LOT OF TIMELY TOPICS THAT WE WILL BE USING IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND AS WE CONTINUE FORWARD IN OUR CONTENT, YOU'LL CONTINUE TO HEAR MORE ON THAT. AND THEN ANOTHER RECOGNITION THAT THE CITY WAS RECEIVED WAS A RECERTIFICATION OF THE SCENIC CITY. DESIGNATION. SO AS THE COMMISSION KNOWS, AND IT'S BEEN PART OF THE CITY HAS BEEN AT THE HIGHEST DESIGNATION PLATINUM FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO RECERTIFY THE CITY AT THAT LEVEL. THAT IS A REFLECTION OF THE CODES, THE ORDINANCES, THE COMMITMENT THAT THE CITY HAS MADE THAT A LOT OF POLICY THAT COMES BEFORE THIS BODY FOR THE SCENIC NATURE OF THE CITY. SO OUR OPEN SPACES, OUR SIGNAGE, DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THAT THE CITY A BEST PLACE TO LIVE. SO WE JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT. JUSTIN PULLIAM, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, WAS OUR PROJECT MANAGER ON THAT. BUT THAT WAS A GREAT RECOGNITION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. [b. Engineering] CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD JOB. GOOD JOB. YES, THAT IS ALL I HAVE. OKAY, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY ENGINEERING. GREAT. CHAIRMAN HANEY, I HAVE ONE ITEM TO REPORT AND THAT WE ARE. WE HAVE FINISHED THE INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING IT TO THE PNC COMMISSION ON ITEM TEN. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA OR, OR EVEN [00:05:07] NOT ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? DO NOT HAVE ANY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY [11. CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION] THEN THEN WE WILL. AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TO TAKE AGENDA ITEM 11 CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION OUT OF ORDER. SO MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S JUST DO THIS MANUALLY. ALL. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO RECESS. NOW. THE TIME IS OKAY. SETTLED. TIME IS NOW 711. THE COMMISSION IS RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION [a. CONSENT AGENDA] [12. RECONVENE] AND WILL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN. NOW, ITEM SEVEN, CONSENT AGENDA. THE PLATS ONE. EXCUSE ME. WE'RE HOLDING A MEETING. PLEASE CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A REVISED CONCEPT PLAN OF CN4 B ITEM TWO. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF CITY RISE. MISSOURI CITY THREE. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF HARMONY SCHOOL, MISSOURI CITY FOUR. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A FINAL PLAT OF MISSOURI CITY. MUSTANG BAYOU WATER PLANT TWO AND FIVE. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION OF A REPLAT OF BUTCHER. THIS KENYANYA CATHOLIC COMMUNITY CENTER. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. GO VOTE PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. MOVING ON. ITEM B SIENNA. CONSIDERING APPLICATION [b. Sienna] OF A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN OF SIENNA FIVE C. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL OF CONCEPT PLAN FIVE C DUE TO THE PLOT THAT IS INCLUDED ON. THIS WAS ALREADY PART OF A PREVIOUS CONCEPT PLAN. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL OF THE CONCEPT PLAN. AND THEN IN ADDITION, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS ONE IS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS ON THE CONDITION THAT THE PREVIOUS CONCEPT PLAN BE UPDATED. OKAY, SO DO WE STILL VOTE ON THE SECOND ONE? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONCEPT PLAN UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT WHEN YOU SAY REVISION, IS THERE A LIST OF REVISIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT. SO YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT DOES RETURN? YES. SO THE REVISION SPECIFICALLY IS THAT THE PLAT THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY I'M SORRY, THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF HAS TO BE REVISED TO INCLUDE WHAT THIS APPLICATION WAS. SO THAT'S THE ISSUE. THERE WAS ALREADY A CONCEPT PLAN THAT INCLUDED A PORTION OF THIS. AND THEN THEY SUBMITTED ANOTHER CONCEPT PLAN THAT INCLUDES THE SAME EXACT PORTION PLUS A REVISION. AND WHAT THEY REALLY NEED TO DO IS GO BACK AND REVISE THE ORIGINAL PLAN. MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION. MOTION TO DISAPPROVE THIS CONCEPT PLAN. YES. AND WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTE PLEASE. THE PLAN IS DISAPPROVED, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO. ITEM TWO. CONSIDERING APPLICATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SIENNA PARK RIVER. RIVER PARKWAY PHASE TWO. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS. CORRECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ONE? NO. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. AND A SECOND. GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON [c. Sienna Town Center Commercial Replat No.1] THEN TO SEE SIENNA TOWN CENTER COMMERCIAL REPLAT. NUMBER ONE, CONSIDER A REQUEST TO EXTEND THE 30 DAY PERIOD TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DISAPPROVE SIENNA TOWN CENTER COMMERCIAL SITE REPLAT NUMBER ONE. SO WE SAW THIS EXTENSION REQUEST LAST MONTH. YOU ALL DECIDED TO GRANT THE EXTENSION TO PLACE THIS PLOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAY EXTENSION, WHICH IS WHAT WILL BE BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY. AND IF APPROVED, THE APPLICATION WILL BE BEFORE YOU AGAIN ON THE DECEMBER AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. [00:10:04] THANK YOU. THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. APPLICANTS REQUESTED 30 DAY EXTENSION PERIOD AND TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEM 7C2, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUESTED EXTENSION PERIOD, AND PLACE THE ITEM ON THE DECEMBER 10TH MEETING. AGENDA. MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. GO AHEAD AND PLACE YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. EXTENSION GRANTED AND WE WILL MOVE ITEM TWO TO THE DECEMBER AGENDA. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE UNDER PLATS. WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO EIGHT ZONING MAP [a. Murphy Retail Center Plaza - Planned Development] AMENDMENTS MURPHY RETAIL CENTER PLAZA PLAN DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR AND AGAINST A REQUEST BY MUHAMMAD ABDALLAH MURPHY SHOPPING CENTER, INC FOR A PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 0.970.97 ACRE TRACT OF LAND TO ALLOW FOR SPECIFIC LLC FOR RETAIL USES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, I'M GOING TO PRESENT THIS ITEM FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT. THE SUBJECT SITE IS A ALREADY DEVELOPED PIECE OF PROPERTY. A GIVE ME ONE MOMENT, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE IT AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP. IT'S AN ALREADY DEVELOPED PIECE OF PROPERTY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF FIFTH STREET AND FM 1092. THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS LC THREE. AND THIS IS AN EXCERPT OF THE ZONING MAP. SO YOU CAN SEE ALL AROUND THE PROPERTY THERE IS COMMERCIAL ZONING OF LC3 AND UNDEVELOPED TRACT JUST TO THE NORTH, A GAS STATION THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED TO THE SOUTH AT THE INTERSECTION, AND A BUILDING THAT'S DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY TO THE REAR. THE CURRENT ZONING IS LC THREE. THIS AREA IS PART OF THE 1092 CORRIDOR THAT WAS REFLECTED IN THE 2017 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED QUITE A BIT WITH THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF THE VISION FOR THIS AREA AS BEING A KEY GATEWAY IN AND OUT OF THE CITY. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO MAXIMIZE THEIR ABILITY TO MARKET AND LEASE SPACES IN THE BUILDING. THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT SINCE THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, THE APPLICANT HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS WITH BEING ABLE TO LEASE OUT THIS BUILDING, AND THE MAJORITY OF THEIR CONCERNS ARE THE WAY THAT THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED, THE APPLICANT BELIEVES LENDS ITSELF TO USES THAT USE OR NEED A MORE WAREHOUSE KIND OF SPACE. OVERHEAD DOORS, AS OPPOSED TO RETAIL COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE THE PRIMARY CONSIDERATION OF THE LC THREE DISTRICT. SO THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A LIST OF PROPOSED USES THAT THEY ARE SEEKING CONSIDERATION FOR. THOSE USES INCLUDE AUTO SERVICES. LIGHT REPAIR, CONTRACTOR EQUIPMENT. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SMALL SUBCONTRACTORS, ROOFING CONTRACTORS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT THEY BELIEVE WOULD UTILIZE SPACE THAT THIS BUILDING IS DESIGNED FOR SMALL SCALE WAREHOUSING AND OTHER TRADES, VEHICLE RENTAL. AND SO SOME OF THE SMALLER VEHICLE RENTAL OPERATORS THAT ARE BECOMING MORE POPULAR THESE DAYS THAT RENT OUT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, SMALL VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, ON A AS NEEDED BASIS. THEY FEEL THAT THIS BUILDING, THIS LOCATION WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR THOSE TYPES OF USERS, AS WELL AS APPOINTMENT BASED CAR DEALERSHIPS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THEIR AREA FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE. THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU IS RECOGNIZING THAT THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN DEVELOPED HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED. WE WANT OUR BUSINESSES. WE WANT OUR DEVELOPMENT TO BE ABLE TO THRIVE, TO BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO PUSH TOWARDS THAT VISION THAT THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN RECOMMENDING FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, IS TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO EXPAND SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY, IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING LC THREE, BUT WITH SOME CONDITIONS. SO PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE USES AS JUST DESCRIBED, BUT PLACING LIMITS IN TERMS OF VEHICLE RENTAL CAR DEALERSHIPS THAT IT'S LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN 2 TO 4 CARS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY, AND THAT THEY ARE IN DEFINED PARKING AREAS ON THE PROPERTY, THE EXISTING PARKING SPACES THAT ARE THERE. IN [00:15:05] ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE, THE PICTURE THAT'S ON THE BOTTOM IS KIND OF A PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS COULD LOOK LIKE TO FURTHER ENHANCE THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. SO IF THOSE MORE INTENSE AUTO ORIENTED USES ARE ALLOWED IN THIS AREA, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S BEAUTIFICATION SCREENING TO HELP SOFTEN, BECAUSE AS THE COMMISSION KNOWS, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE ON THAT 1092 CORRIDOR IS KIND OF THE HODGEPODGE OF DEVELOPMENT. SOME OF THOSE OLDER MINI WAREHOUSES, AUTO ORIENTED USES THAT HAVE ADDED AND CONTRIBUTED, YOU KNOW, TO CHARACTER THAT THE CITY IS NOT TRYING TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD. SO AS IN WORKING WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER, ALLOWING CERTAIN USES, PUTTING THOSE RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE USES AND ENHANCING THE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING FOR THE PROPERTY. PUBLIC NOTICE WAS SENT OUT ON THIS PARTICULAR PUBLIC HEARING. WE'VE RECEIVED THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL. AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD CHANGE THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY FROM LC THREE TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC USES THAT HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED IN ADDITION TO THE LC THREE USES, AS WELL AS PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR SCREENING, FOR LANDSCAPING, AND FOR THE OUTSIDE USE OF THE PROPERTY. AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU IS AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, AND THAT IS THE REPORT THAT I HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? JENNIFER, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. THIS USAGE, THE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT, AUTO SERVICES CONTRACT AND ALL THOSE THINGS ON THE LIST. ONCE WE GIVE YOU THE PERMIT, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE FROM THE CITY SIDE, THOSE BUILDINGS ARE USED FOR THAT PARTICULAR USAGE SOLELY? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE? SO IN THESE CASES, EACH ONE OF THOSE TENANTS WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH FOR OCCUPANCY. SO NO BUSINESS CAN OPERATE WITHIN THIS BUILDING WITHOUT RECEIVING AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT. SO WHETHER THEY'RE USING THE ENTIRE BUILDING, WHETHER THEY'RE USING A PORTION OF THE BUILDING, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE. THE DESIGN OF THE SPACE HAS TO BE DESIGNED TO SUPPORT BY BUILDING CODE, FIRE CODE, AND BY ZONING WHAT THAT PROPOSED USE IS. SO EACH BUSINESS WOULD BE ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. IN THE CASE OF VEHICLE RENTAL OR A CAR DEALERSHIPS, OR THEY'RE LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT THEY CAN STORE OUTSIDE. PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THOSE PARKING AREAS BE DEFINED SO THAT WHEN YOU GO ON THAT PROPERTY, YOU KNOW WHERE THOSE VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BUSINESS ARE. THE PARKING LOT SHOULD NOT BE JUST FULL OF CARS THAT ARE ON DISPLAY FOR SALE OR FOR RENT. AND SO ALL OF THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT'S ISSUED TO THOSE BUSINESSES. JENNIFER, I HAVE A QUESTION IN REFERENCE TO THE AUTO SERVICES. DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE REPAIRS HAVE TO BE DONE ON THE VEHICLE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, NOT ON THE OUTSIDE? THAT IS CORRECT. AND SO THE CONDITIONS INCLUDE ALL OF THE OPERATION, ALL OF THE STORAGE EQUIPMENT, MATERIALS, ALL OF THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO OVERNIGHT NO VEHICLES PENDING REPAIR SHOULD BE STORED OUTSIDE IN THE FRONT OR IN THE REAR. EVERYTHING RELATED TO THOSE BUSINESSES SHOULD BE STORED INSIDE OF THAT BUILDING. THANK YOU. AND JENNIFER, ONE LAST QUESTION, BECAUSE I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THROUGH THE CITY. SO I GUESS WE I HEAR WHAT THEY'RE ASKING, BUT I GUESS HOW DO WE TRULY ENFORCE IT? AND DO WE HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S BEING MAINTAINED TO THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE CITY? AND I THINK THOSE ARE VALID POINTS. AND AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, THEY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED. IF THEY WERE PERMITTED, THEN IT WOULD BE ZONING COMPLIANCE AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. DO YOU HAVE THE THE ACTUAL SIZE, NUMBER OF STORAGE BUILDINGS, NUMBER OF OF THE LOCATION WHERE THE EGRESS LOCATION WOULD BE, THE DRIVEWAY LOCATION ENTERING AND EXITING B ONE. EXIT ONE ONE ENTRANCE ONE, EXIT CORRECT. AND ALL OF THEIR SITE DESIGN IS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY ONTO THE PROPERTY AND THAT MEETS THE [00:20:05] EMERGENCY ACCESS REQUIREMENTS. BASED ON THE BUILDING DESIGN THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY, EACH TENANT WOULD BE EVALUATED FOR THE TYPE OF USE THAT THEY BRING IN AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT TRIGGERS ANY ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, FIRE SAFETY, BUILDING CODE SAFETY OR EVEN ACCESS BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE PRESENTING. SO WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN MURPHY ROAD, BEFORE YOU GET TO THIS BUILDING, TURN THE MICROPHONE ON, PLEASE. OH SORRY EVERYBODY, WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING BEFORE YOU GET TO THIS BUILDING AND THE CURB APPEAL, THERE IS NO LANDSCAPING OR FENCING. AND AND THOUGH YOUR RENDITION SHOWS THAT THE THE FRONTAGE WOULD BE ENHANCED, THE SIDE IS THE FIRST THING YOU SEE ON THE APPROACH INTO THE CITY IS THE PARKING LOT. AND THERE IS NO YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR BUFFER. LQT3 HAS BUFFER WITH HEIGHT AND BUT ARE YOU'RE JUST PART OF YOUR AGREEMENT WOULD BE JUST TO DO THE FRONTAGE BECAUSE IT'S FROM THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE CITY. CORRECT. THE, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU ALL IS JUST ON THE FRONTAGE SIDE. ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS IN, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IS WHAT IS THE LAND SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY GOING TO DO. AND SO YOU HAVE A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY JUST TO THE NORTH THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED LC THREE. IN ADDITION TO LAND ON THE BACK SIDE THAT HAS FRONTAGE OFF OF FIFTH STREET AND THAT ALSO HAS AN LC THREE ZONING. SO BY THE CODE TODAY, IF SOMETHING WERE TO DEVELOP THERE, THERE WOULD NOT BE A CODE REQUIREMENT PER SE FOR A BUFFER YARD OR TRANSITION BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS RECOMMENDATION IS COMING FROM. YOU KNOW, KIND OF NOT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT MIGHT GO THERE IN THE FUTURE. SO LAST MONTH WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S GOING ON WITHIN, LET'S SAY, WHAT, 700 YARDS MAYBE OF THIS PROPERTY. AND THEN WE WERE TRYING TO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LOWERING THE STANDARDS TO BLOCKING THE AC UNITS AND HAVING FENCING INSTEAD OF PLANTS. AND WHAT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH WITH THAT? WITH THIS, IT'S THE SAME AREA. IT'S THE SAME CORRIDOR. YOU'VE WORKED FOR A YEAR ON A, YOU KNOW, PRETTY EXTENSIVE PLAN. PART OF THE PLAN IS OUR CURB APPEAL. AS YOU ENTER TO THE CITY. WE REALLY ONLY HAVE ONE SHOT AT THIS, AND IT DOESN'T. THERE'S A LOT OF LC3 THAT THE STANDARDS ARE AROUND THE PERIMETER, NOT JUST THE FRONT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S RAW LAND ON BOTH SIDES THAT WE'RE NOT. I THINK WE NEED TO. TO DO THE PERIMETER, NOT NECESSARILY THE BACK AS MUCH COMING FROM THE STREET, BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY WITH A BUILDING THAT WOULD BLOCK THAT VIEW. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOTHING BLOCKING. IF THEY HAD THE DUMPSTER ON THAT SIDE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'D SEE. IF YOU HAD OUTDOOR STORAGE ON THAT SIDE. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE COMING IN FROM, YOU KNOW, MURPHY ROAD. I THINK THOSE ARE BIG FACTORS, AT LEAST FOR ME, IS THE THE FRONTAGE IS GREAT, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE PROPERTY WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT LC3 NEEDS TO BE A STANDARD AROUND THE WHOLE PERIMETER, AT LEAST BOTH SIDES AND THEN THE FRONT. I'M NOT SURE HOW TO WORD IT, BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE BUFFER LANDSCAPING TREES. IN. YOU'RE SAYING NORTH AND SOUTH? WELL, YOU HAVE THE GAS STATION ON THE SOUTH. THAT MAY BE HARD, BUT THE NORTH SIDE DEFINITELY. YEAH. TAKE THE WIN. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. TAKE THE WIN. NORTH SIDE. AND IT'S. AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PICKY BUT THE PLANTS THAT ARE SUGGESTED IF WE GET A FREEZE THERE'S NOTHING THERE. ALL THOSE PLANTS. BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO ALL BE CUT BACK. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT THE DETAILS. BUT OUR FRONT I MEAN, THAT IS THE BUSIEST INTERSECTION. IN FORT BEND COUNTY. WHEN YOU GO TO HIGHWAY SIX, IT'S ONE OF THE BUSIEST INTERSECTIONS IN ALL OF FORT BEND COUNTY. THIS IS OUR CURB APPEAL. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE WHERE IT SHOWS THE PROPERTY? THAT ONE YOU SEE ON THE END THERE. IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE SOUTH MAIN OR 90 WAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SIDE, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. SO JENNIFER, HOW SHOULD I APPROACH THIS IF I WAS GOING TO MAKE A [00:25:07] MOTION IS TO CARRY STANDARDS OF LC3 HEARING FIRST. OKAY. AND SO GO AHEAD AND HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION WANTS TO RECEIVE THAT PRESENTATION OKAY. AND THEN THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE RECOMMENDATION. MAKES SENSE. SOUNDS GOOD. JENNIFER, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYWHERE IN THE DOCUMENTATION IT SHOWS IF WE ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A FENCE LINE OR FENCING ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY? THE APPLICANT HAS NOT PROPOSED ANY FENCING. THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED BY THE CURRENT CODE. THE CONDITION THAT'S INCLUDED IS THAT THEY INCLUDE A FENCE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S DEPICTED IN THIS PICTURE, ALONG WITH 1092 SIDE. OKAY. SO SO, JENNIFER, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT IF I'M PRETTY MUCH COMING INTO THE CITY WOULD BE. WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SEE JUST A COUPLE OF BLOCKS UP THE ROAD FROM THAT LOCATION? IT'S JUST THE OPEN AREA WITH CARS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED OR SO FORTH. IN THAT INTERPRETATION, IT JUST GIVES THE WRONG VIEW TO THE CITY. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CAN WE MOVE ON WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING? YEAH. SO THE APPLICANT WANTS TO SPEAK. HELLO EVERYONE. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YEP. GOOD EVENING. OKAY. SIR, YOU DO HAVE THE SLIDES THAT YOU ALL OKAY? OKAY. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS. SO MY NAME IS ABDULRAHMAN PADILLA AND MY DAD IS IN THE BACK. HE'S CURRENTLY SICK AND HE'S NOT ABLE TO SPEAK. WE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF 1919 FM 1092 ROAD IN MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS. 77 459. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STAFF, AS WELL AS YOU GUYS FOR TAKING FOR AGREEING TO TAKE ON THIS CASE. OUR INTENTION WITH THIS PD CASE IS TO MAINTAIN FULL COMPLIANCE AND ALSO BALANCE THE NEEDS OF OF OUR MULTI-TENANT SITE. SO BEFORE PROCEEDING, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A BIT OF A CONTEXT. SO THIS SITE WAS DEVELOPED MID LAST YEAR IN MID 2024. AND SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE ENCOUNTERED DIFFICULTY IN ATTRACTING TENANTS, POTENTIAL TENANTS INTO THIS INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF WE'VE HAD DIFFICULTY ATTRACTING TENANTS WITH REGARDS TO STORAGE, WAREHOUSING, AND THESE ARE ALL SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO OPEN UP SHOP WITHIN OUR PREMISES. BUT DUE TO THE RESTRICTIONS, THE LC3 RESTRICTIONS, WE'VE UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO TURN THEM AWAY. AND SO. PROCEEDING BASED UPON THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS AS WELL AS THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALIGNMENT. THIS WAS PULLED FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR CORRIDOR. AND IT STATES THAT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO REDEVELOP UNDERUTILIZED NONRESIDENTIAL SITES TO ACHIEVE HIGHER VALUE, MORE ATTRACTIVE, MORE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, PROMOTING A MIXTURE OF SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES ALONG FM 1092, TEXAS PARKWAY AND CARBIDE ROAD, AND SUPPORTING DIVERSE BUSINESS TYPES AND USES WITHIN THESE CORRIDORS, AS WELL AS ENCOURAGING PD ZONING FOR FLEXIBLE DESIGN SOLUTIONS TAILORED TO THESE SPECIFIC SITES. WE BELIEVE THAT PLAZA AND MURPHY MEETS EVERY ONE OF THESE GOALS AND OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT CASE. WE ARE ENCOURAGING THE USAGE OF THIS NON RESIDENTIAL SITE. WE ARE PROMOTING A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL AND FLEXIBLE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. WE ARE SUPPORTING DIVERSE BUSINESS TYPES AND WE ARE UTILIZING PD ZONING FOR THAT FLEXIBLE DESIGN SOLUTION. SO IN TERMS OF THE SURROUNDING USES, THERE IS NO DIRECT RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY IN TERMS OF THE SURROUNDING. RIGHT. WE HAVE AN LC3 RETAIL. WE HAVE PD COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET BEHIND US. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SELF-STORAGE ON TOP OPPOSITE OF THE STREET TOO. SO THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY NEARBY IN TERMS OF [00:30:02] THE IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH. WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT WHAT THE CITY'S ASKING IN THE STAFF AND DEVELOPMENT REPORT THROUGH VISUAL, OPERATIONAL AND LANDSCAPING OBJECTIVES. AND HERE ARE THE THREE GOALS THAT WE HAVE IN MIND. WE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THESE IMPROVEMENTS IN A PHASED AND COST EFFECTIVE MANNER. WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THIS SITE IS OPEN FOR ALL THE TENANTS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY OF MISSOURI CITY, AND WE WILL PROCEED WITH LANDSCAPING AND DECORATIVE ENHANCEMENTS WHILE ALSO PLANNING FUTURE SCREENING AS TENANTS MOVE IN AS AS THE LC FOR PD TENANTS MOVE IN. SO IN TERMS OF THE ACTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STAFF REPORT, THE STAFF'S SUGGESTION WAS TO INSTALL A MASONRY AND METAL SCREENING. THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS COMPLETED MID LAST YEAR AND 2024, SO LIVE OAK TREES AND SHRUBS ALREADY SCREENED THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE THAT'S FACING FM 1092, AND OUR REQUEST TO YOU IS WE WOULD LIKE A VARIANCE FOR THIS MASONRY AND METAL SCREENING REQUIREMENT, BECAUSE IN CONSISTENCY WITH ALL OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN MISSOURI CITY ALONG FM 1092 AND IN SUGAR LAND AREA AS WELL, WE ARE IN CONSISTENCY WITH LIVE OAK TREES AND SHRUBS. AND I WILL BRING UP PICTURES IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDE IN TERMS OF THE USE LIMITATIONS, RIGHT, THAT WERE LAID OUT FURTHER IN THE STAFF SUGGESTION FOR ALL PERMITTED LC FOUR TYPE USES TO BE CONDUCTED ENTIRELY INDOORS. OUTDOOR STORAGE IS NOT PERMITTED. VEHICLE DISPLAY LIMITED TO FOUR 2 TO 4 STAFF SPACES ONLY, AND ALL CONTRACTOR REPAIR AND SERVICE VEHICLES MUST BE STORED INDOORS OVERNIGHT. WE ARE IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH THAT IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS CASE. THE THIRD ACTION THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE STAFF REPORT WAS TO ENHANCE THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING TO ACHIEVE APPROXIMATELY 30 TO 40%. SO WE INSTALLED LANDSCAPING IN MID 2024 LAST YEAR. AND SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, LANDSCAPING TAKES TIME TO MATURE. BUT SO I'M SURE THAT THIS LANDSCAPING THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITH THE DENSE SHRUBS, BUSHES AND TREES, THEY WILL SURPASS MISSOURI CITY REQUIREMENTS AS THEY CONTINUE TO GROW. SO WE WE BELIEVE THAT WE WE BELIEVE THAT THIS EXISTING LANDSCAPING CURRENTLY WILL AS SOON AS IT MATURES, IT WILL IT WILL BE A GOOD SCREENING FOR THIS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, HOWEVER, WE ALSO WE REQUEST THAT FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO BE INSTALLED AS SOON AS THE LC FOUR PD TENANTS MOVE IN, THAT'S WHEN WE WE WILL WE WILL BE OPEN TO INSTALLING THIS EXISTING LANDSCAPING. SO THE SITE OPERATIONS THAT WERE FURTHER LAID OUT WAS TO MAINTAIN INDOOR OPERATIONS, NOISE, SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING AND NO EXISTING EXPANSION. WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. IN TERMS OF THE REAR AREA CURRENTLY. RIGHT NOW, THE REAR AREA IS, IS IS USED AS SHARED PARKING PARKING SPACE. THERE IS NO OUTDOOR STORAGE OR REPAIR THAT OCCURS AT THIS TIME. NOW, IF FUTURE TENANTS REQUIRE OUTDOOR VEHICLE PLACEMENT, WE WILL INSTALL LANDSCAPING IN THE REAR AREA AND WE WILL INSTALL METAL SCREENING IN THE REAR IF NECESSARY. SO THESE ARE CURRENT PICTURES OF THE SITE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE THE DENSE SHRUBS AS WELL AS THE LIVE OAK TREES THAT WERE PLANTED. YOU CAN SEE IN THESE PICTURES. AND THESE ARE FURTHER PICTURES AS WELL. THIS WAS TAKEN TWO DAYS AGO. AND WE BELIEVE AS AS THESE DENSE SHRUBS AND TREES CONTINUE TO MATURE, THEY WILL ENHANCE THE VISUAL BUFFER FACING FM 1092 AND WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CORRIDOR OF AT THAT. THIS AREA IS PERTURBED TO BE. SO WHAT IS OUR COMMITMENT AND AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE WITH THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY? WE WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THE FRONT SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING. WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP ALL THE LANDSCAPING AREAS NEAT, IRRIGATED AND FREE FROM DEBRIS. WE WILL REPLACE PLANTS AS NEEDED WITH NATIVE SPECIES. WE WILL KEEP PARKING AREAS AND ACCESS DRIVES UNOBSTRUCTED, AND WE INTEND ON ADDING REAR SCREENING ONLY WHEN LQ4 AND PD TENANTS OCCUPY THE SPACE. WE REQUEST THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY TO CONFIRM THAT OUR CURRENT AND PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS SATISFY THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY'S ATTEMPT FOR SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING, AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY FOR FLEXIBILITY AND INSTALLING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING IN [00:35:02] THE FRONT AND REAR ONLY WITH FUTURE TENANTS SUCH AS THE LC FOUR AND PD TENANTS. SO OUR PHASE PLAN, AS YOU HAVE ALL SEEN, WE BELIEVE IT ENSURES COMPLIANCE WITH FRONT ENHANCEMENTS AND LANDSCAPING AND THE REAR SCREENING WILL ONLY BE ADDED WITH FUTURE TENANTS SUCH AS LC FOUR AND PD. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS UPHOLDS THE STANDARDS MISSOURI CITY STANDARDS. WE BELIEVE IT ALSO UPHOLDS THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS SUPPORTS A SMALL BUSINESS OPERATIONS AS WELL. SORRY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU SIR. DO YOU OWN THE PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND IT OR ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY? NO, WE DO NOT. WE HAVE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NORTH SIDE. YES. OKAY. SO THE ONLY THING WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING IS JUST LANDSCAPING AROUND THE BUILDING, BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES, BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES. SO IF, IF THE LC FOUR PD TENANTS MOVE IN, WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL DO THE LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT END AND IN THE BACK. OKAY. HOW ABOUT ON THE SIDE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. YES. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT SEPARATES THE NORTH BETWEEN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. AND I SAID THE NORTH IS NOT ON THE GAS STATION SIDE OR THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. YES, YES, THE GAS STATION SIDE. NO, NO PLANS HAVE BEEN APPROVED YET FOR THE NORTH BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTIES WE'RE ENCOUNTERING. THAT SITE HAS BEEN PUT UP ON SALE BECAUSE WITH THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT, NOT ENOUGH BUSINESS BUSINESSES ARE NOT WILLING TO OPEN UP. LIKE FOR INSTANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN TERMS OF AN AUTO SHOP, RIGHT? THEY WANT TO OPEN UP A BODY SHOP, AUTO MECHANIC, REPAIR SHOP, AND THEN ALSO ON THE SIDE, THEY WANT TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, VEHICLE RENTING, VEHICLE LEASING, BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS, THEY ARE LIMITED BY US. AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO ATTRACT THOSE TYPES OF TENANTS FOR THEM TO MOVE IN. I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE THE BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENTIATOR OR WHAT? HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENCE? BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING NO FENCES IN THAT AREA. YES, JUST A LANDSCAPING I BELIEVE. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING WITH BECAUSE WE ARE DRIVING THROUGH THE 1092 COMING DOWN ON THE SOUTH. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY, AND THE PROPERTY IS CONCRETE DRIVEWAY RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. THERE'S NO FENCE LINE. YES. OKAY. THERE THERE IS ACTUALLY A SMALL FENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROPERTIES AND THOSE TWO OKAY. BUT THERE IS EXISTING LANDSCAPING ON THE SIDE AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE ON WITH PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP OKAY. THANK YOU. GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE. SO MOVED. MOTION. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. GO AHEAD AND CAST A VOTE, PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO. CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON 8A1. DISCUSSION. THOUGHTS. I THINK THE NORTH SIDE NEEDS TO BE. IT NEEDS TO BE A BUFFER. WHAT ABOUT THE NOT HAVING A MASONRY WALL AND JUST RELYING ON PLANTS. IT MAKES SENSE IF IT WAS IN A NORMAL INDUSTRIAL AREA. BUT THIS IS OUR. ONE OF THE CORRIDORS THAT IS OUR ENTRY. AND IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO JUST. THIS ISN'T THE CORRIDOR THAT WE CAN LOWER STANDARDS AT ALL. WE CAN'T. YEAH. I THINK THE NORTH SIDE NEEDS TO HAVE A BUFFER AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PERMANENT TYPE OF FENCING. SURE. THAT DETERMINES WHATEVER. SO [00:40:04] THIS THIS WAS BUILT RELATIVELY RECENT RIGHT. YEAH. AND THE APPLICANT MADE THE POINT THAT HE'S CURRENTLY COMPLYING WITH WHAT WE ASKED OF THEM IN THE WAY OF LANDSCAPING. CORRECT. RIGHT. BUT THE DIFFERENCE NOW IS THE REQUESTED CHANGE OF USE. YOUR CONCERN IS THAT, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO THE MIC, PLEASE DIFFERENT OR USES NOW MIGHT VISUAL EFFECT SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. YOU KNOW VISUAL EFFECT WHAT OTHERWISE I MEAN HE ALREADY LANDSCAPED IT ACCORDING TO WHATEVER WE REQUIRED. BUT NOW WE WOULD REQUIRE SOMETHING DIFFERENT IF, SAY, HE WAS BUILDING IT THIS YEAR FOR THIS USE. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE THE ZONING RIGHT NOW IS A RETAIL COMMERCIAL. OKAY. SO THE USERS THAT WOULD GO IN THERE ARE USUALLY RETAIL FOCUSED, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER FOCUSED STOREFRONT KIND OF FOCUS. THE BUILDING THAT THEY DESIGNED LENDS ITSELF FOR OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND USERS. SO TO EXPAND THAT PALETTE AND KIND OF THE CONVERSATION THAT THE COMMISSION HAS HAD IS THAT WE'VE SEEN THOSE TYPES OF USES ALREADY IN PLAY, WITH MINIMAL RESTRICTIONS ON 1092, AND THE RESULT OF THAT IS A LOT OF THOSE AUTO USERS THAT STORE CARS PENDING REPAIR TIRES, MINI STORAGE, THOSE TYPES OF USERS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY COGNIZANT OF WHAT IMAGE THE CITY WANTS TO PROJECT FOR PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT. SO THE RECOMMENDATION ON ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, ENHANCED SCREENING TRACKS WITH GIVING THE BUSINESS THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE INVESTMENT THAT THEY'VE MADE, EXPAND THE PALETTE OF USERS, LIMITING IT TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGE THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING. OKAY, SO IF THERE WERE A I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE IF THERE WERE A SIMILAR REQUEST TO BUILD SOMETHING WITHIN AN LC4 NEW, WOULD WE REQUIRE SUCH FENCING? SO IF THERE WAS A SIMILAR REQUEST TO COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY'S POINT IS THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE AREA FOR USES UNDER THE BANNER OF LC4, BECAUSE LC4 IS STILL RETAIL USES. BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU START TO TRANSITION INTO THOSE TYPES OF USERS THAT REQUIRE OUTDOOR STORAGE AND OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES. SO 1092 IS PROBABLY NOT THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION BASED ON ITS SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE CITY FOR AN INFLUX OF LLC FOR TYPE USERS, AND WOULD PROBABLY BE A CONTINUATION OF SOME OF THE HODGEPODGE THAT HAS DEVELOPED ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. OKAY, I MEAN, NO DISRESPECT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THIS PRODUCT, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THIS WAS NOT RETAIL FRIENDLY. THIS IS MORE COMMERCIAL FRIENDLY. SO NOW THEY'RE REALIZING THAT THE DESIGN OF IT DOESN'T WORK WITH IT'S NOT JUST THE LIMITATIONS OF THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE IS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS MORE COMMERCIAL LOOKING THAN IT IS RETAIL. JENNIFER, ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS I KNOW WE HAVE IT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO HAVE THE AUTO SERVICES AND LIGHT REPAIR, AND THEN THE PRESENTATION SHOWS INDOOR. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE ADDED IN THERE AS AN INDOOR OUTDOOR INDOOR ONLY. YEAH OKAY. SO WHAT WHAT WE'RE DIFFERENTIATING THIS PARTICULAR SET OF USES AGAINST WOULD BE FOR EXAMPLE THE WHAT IS THAT A WALGREENS, THE WALGREENS UP THE STREET THAT'S STRAIGHT LC THREE RIGHT. THE WHICH ONE'S THE WALGREENS. CORRECT. ON THAT SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD NEXT TO THE WHAT IS IT, A STARBUCKS OR WHATEVER? YEAH. YOU CAN GET THEM THAT MUCH. AND THEN THERE AND THEN RIGHT NEXT TO THAT IS THE TAKE FIVE OIL. WELL YEAH. BUT BEHIND THAT AND GOING DOWN THAT WAY ISN'T THAT THE TOWNHOMES AND AND FUTURE APARTMENTS. RIGHT. THE PROPOSED APARTMENT PROPOSED. YEAH. OKAY. AND ALL OF THOSE. WELL DIDN'T REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL SCREENING OTHER THAN WHAT LC THREE CALLED FOR. RIGHT. CORRECT. AND SO FOR STARBUCKS, WALMART, WALGREENS, THE GREEN SPACE ALONG 1092. WALGREENS HAS GREEN SPACE ON BOTH SIDES OF IT WITH THE STANDARD, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING THAT GOES ALONG [00:45:05] WITH IT BEHIND THEM. BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL, THE RESIDENTIAL HAS PRIVACY FENCING THAT SERVES AS A BARRIER BETWEEN THE TWO. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO DO ANY KIND OF FENCING ON THE 1092 OR INDEPENDENCE BOULEVARD SIDE. WHAT ABOUT THE OIL CHANGE PLACE? I MEAN, THAT IS VERY MUCH MORE THE SAME. OF WHAT? OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE. RIGHT? THEY THEY WERE A LITTLE DIFFERENCE. THERE IS THE OIL CHANGE AND STARBUCKS WERE PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT THE TOWNHOMES WERE DEVELOPED IN. SO THE DEVELOPER OF THAT SOLD THOSE PROPERTIES OFF. SO THE UNIFIED KIND OF COORDINATED DEVELOPMENT WAS KNOWING THAT THOSE PARTICULAR USERS WERE GOING TO GO THERE. BUT WE DIDN'T REQUIRE ANYTHING. NO, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BUILD IT INTO THE PD UP FRONT. RIGHT, OKAY. AND SO IN EFFECT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT WITH THIS ONE. CORRECT. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ASKING FOR MORE EXPANDED USES THAN THE TAKE SIX OIL CHANGE WOULD REQUIRE. BECAUSE THINKING ABOUT YOU KNOW TAKE SIX IT'S IN AND OUT. THERE'S VERY FEW IF ANY VEHICLES THAT WOULD REMAIN THERE OVERNIGHT. AND IF THEY WERE, THEY USUALLY HAVE THEM INDOORS INSIDE. ALL RIGHT. WHERE ARE WE? THIS ONE'S PRETTY INTERESTING. YEAH. OKAY. ONE MORE TIME. I DON'T MIND ASKING IF IT WERE REQUESTING TO BUILD IT TODAY AS AN. BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY LC4. BUT IF IT WERE, FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION, YOU WOULD REQUIRE THAT KIND OF FENCING. IF IT WERE. YES. SO YES. OUTSIDE STORAGE. YES. YEAH. BECAUSE IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY LC FOUR. IT'S LC THREE NOW. IT'S CHANGED. AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE THOSE CHANGES. WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND AND AND IN SOME RESPECTS THE APPLICANT HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHANGE IN USE IS WHAT'S DRIVING THAT AS OPPOSED TO JUST OUR DESIRE FOR GREATER CURB APPEAL. ALTHOUGH PART OF IT IS THAT TOO. RIGHT OKAY. THERE'S THERE'S A WAY FORWARD. JUST HAVE TO TO PUT IT INTO A MOTION. WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE SHRUBS OUT TO BUILD A WALL AND THEN PUT SHRUBS BACK IN THE FRONT IS. FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE FRONT IS NOT THE CONCERN. THE I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE STORING TIRES IN THE FRONT. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE STORING THEM IN THE BACK AND THE SIDE. AND WELL, I AGREE, I'M, I LIKE THE FRONT RIGHT NOW. YEAH. I MEAN BUT I MEAN A MASONRY WALL. SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS RECOMMEND. SO IS IT IS IT POSSIBLE I UNDERSTAND WE WANT UP FRONT FENCING BUT THEY'VE ALREADY HAVE THE EXISTING SHRUBBERY WHICH OVER TIME WILL MATURE. CAN I MENTION SOMETHING. WELL WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. SO AS OPPOSED TO THE FENCING IN THE FRONT WHERE THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING SHRUBBERY, WHICH YOU'D HAVE TO. COMMISSIONER PEARSON, COULD YOU MOVE THE MIC CLOSER TO YOU? I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS, THERE'S ALREADY SHRUBBERY THAT WILL MATURE OVER TIME IN THE FRONT. SO I KNOW THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO LEASE THIS PROPERTY. FINANCES ARE KEY PART OF THIS. SO AS OPPOSED TO REQUIRING THE FENCING ON THE FRONT BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING SHRUBBERY, COULD WE CONSIDER THAT SAME FENCE LINE MOVING IT TO THE SIDE? THE NORTH SIDE IS FOR ME. YES. HE AND THE USES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, OR AT LEAST THE FLEXIBILITY THAT HE WOULD HAVE. YES. THE NORTH SIDE IS. BUT WOULD JUST THE TYPICAL LC THREE SCREENING SUFFICE THERE? LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE IN FRONT? I MEAN IT WOULD LOOK BAD FOR FIVE YEARS AND THAT'S WHERE THE BUFFER WALLS, I MEAN, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT HERE IN THE FIRST PICTURE. IT'S CUT OFF IN OUR PRESENTATION. BUT. I HOPE FOR THE BEST THAT HE GETS THE TENANTS THAT WANT TO USE IT FOR THE USES THAT HE NOW WOULD HAVE [00:50:04] FLEXIBILITY FOR. BUT IF THAT HAPPENS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A DUMPSTER THERE. THERE'S GOING TO BE STORAGE. THERE'S GOING TO BE. IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHY ARE WE HERE? YEAH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROTECT. YEAH. IF YOU'RE PROPOSING YOU THEY'RE PROPOSING A BODY SHOP AND BODY REPAIRS. THAT MEANS VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE SITTING OUTSIDE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TO COME IN. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE PD. WE CAN PUT WHATEVER WE WANT IN THERE. I JUST THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE BUFFER FENCING ON THE SIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE. OKAY. YES. AND I THINK AND LEAVE THE FRONT ALONE. YES. THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING FOR ME. YEAH OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. BUT I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE TREES THAT GO ALONG THERE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A DRIVEWAY, THERE'S LIMITATIONS, BUT YOU CAN STILL HAVE. WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS FENCING. AND TREES THAT ARE SPACED JUST LIKE THEY ARE IN THE FRONT. FOR THE NORTH SIDE. ANY QUESTION ON THE FENCING DISCUSSION? ARE YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT OPAQUE FENCING OR DECORATIVE FENCING? BECAUSE THE IMAGE HERE SHOWS MORE DECORATIVE FENCING WITH SHRUBS AT THE BASE. BUT ARE YOU DISCUSSING OPAQUE? I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS ATTRACTIVE, THAT I CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH IT. YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE, IT'S GOING TO HIDE, SO TO SPEAK. OKAY. AND THEN ONE MORE CLARIFICATION. DOES THE APPLICANT MENTION METAL FENCING. AND I WOULD THINK THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE NOT METAL FENCING BUT OPAQUE FENCING. THAT IS NOT METAL. YES, YES. ARE YOU HELPING ME? RIGHT THIS TURN IT INTO A MOTION. COMMISSIONERS, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE BACKSIDE TOO. THERE IS A BUSINESS ALREADY IN THE BACK. SO ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE THAT OPEN? WELL, HE MADE THE COMMENT THAT HE WANTS TO DO FENCING IN THE BACK. ONCE THOSE TENANTS WERE. WELL, IT DEPENDS IF THE IF THE TENANTS WANTS TO USE THE BACK PART OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S WHAT HE COMMENTED. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ENFORCE THEM TO COVER IT BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY IF IT WAS AN OPEN LAND, I CAN UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE IS ALSO ALREADY A PROPANE BUSINESS IN THE BACK, I BELIEVE. SO WE SHOULD CONSIDER ALL THOSE SAFETY CONCERNS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING AROUND IN THAT. I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE PICTURE PART OF THE BACK IS ALREADY LANDSCAPED. THAT THAT AERIAL PICTURE WE HAD, YOU COULD SEE BEHIND THE BUILDING THERE, RIGHT HERE. YOU SEE IT COMING UP BETWEEN THE PROPANE BUSINESS. YEAH. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ALREADY SHRUBS. THEY'VE GOT SHRUBS BUILT IN THERE. AND THE 30 YEAR OLD CODE OF COVERING UP WHEEL WELLS WITH SHRUBS. I DON'T WANT TO. YEAH. THERE'S SOME BACK THERE. AND IF THERE'S FENCING, DEPEND UPON THE USAGE. YEAH. WELL THINK ABOUT IT. WE'RE CHANGING THE CODE. LC CODE CHANGING THEN THAT OWNER IN THE BEHIND THE THEY CAN FIND THAT ABOUT. THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO THE CITY AND SAY WHY. WELL WE CHANGE THE CODE. ARE WE GOING TO PUT ANY FENCING. WHAT WILL BE OUR ANSWER TO THEM. BECAUSE THEY ARE RUNNING A BUSINESS. SO THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME SOME TYPE OF PRIVACY. CORRECT. SO WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND? I RECOMMEND I RECOMMEND IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE A FENCING IN THE BACK AND THE NORTH SIDE, BUT WE'RE CHANGING THE FROM LC THREE TO LC4. SO WE HAD TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO THE BOOKS. I THINK FENCING TO BLOCK THE THE VIEW FROM MURPHY ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE. I THINK FENCING IF APPLICANT USES ARE SIGNED, IF TENANTS ARE BROUGHT IN THEN FENCING IN THE IN THE BACK. YEAH. HE ALREADY STATED THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE EXPECTATION. THAT'S MY MOTION OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S REPLAY THAT REAL QUICK. YEAH I DON'T WANT TO WRITE THE MOTION FOR YOU. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. EXCEPT I'M NOT I DON'T THINK THE PRIORITY NEEDS TO BE MASONRY FENCE IN THE FRONT BECAUSE THE SHRUBS AND THE TREES ARE ALREADY THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE THAT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, EXCEPT FOR THE FENCING, THE MASONRY FENCE IN THE FRONT. I'D RATHER SPEND THAT MONEY ON THE SIDE TO BLOCK THE VIEW OF ANY OUTDOOR STORAGE OR DUMPSTER. YES, ON THE SIDE, THE NORTH SIDE AND THE REAR? RIGHT. WELL ON THE NORTH SIDE ON THE AND AS NEEDED IN THE REAR. BASED ON. YES, THE TENANT USES. THAT'S FAIR. WHAT WE [00:55:08] DECIDED ON. RIGHT. EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT MOTION. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THE AUTO SERVICE AND LIGHT REPAIR MUST BE INDOOR ONLY. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE PAGE THREE THE DOCUMENT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE IS INDOOR ONLY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. GOT IT. YEAH. AND YOU ALSO SUPPORT THE LIMITATIONS ON THE USE. WELL THAT I AGREE WITH CITY STAFF REPORT OKAY. THAT'S PART OF THE THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION. YEAH OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. PEOPLE ARE STILL THINKING ABOUT IT AND WE HAVE A SECOND OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. THEN GO AHEAD AND VOTE PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK SIR. HOPE IT WORKS. OH IS THAT. [b. Vicksburg Retail - Planned Development] SOMEBODY'S MICROPHONE? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS B VICKSBURG RETAIL PLAN DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENT FOR OR AGAINST A REQUEST BY ETHAN HARWELL, KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES FOR A PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 12.97 ACRE TRACT OF LAND TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. WE RECEIVED A ZONING APPLICATION TO REZONE AN APPROXIMATE 13 ACRE TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HIGHWAY SIX AND VICKSBURG BOULEVARD, TO GO FROM SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THE PD WOULD ALLOW FOR LIMITED LC3 RETAIL DISTRICT USES, AND THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ORGANIC GROCERY STORE AS AN ANCHOR TENANT, AS WELL AS SEVEN OUTPARCELS FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT ALONG HIGHWAY SIX. SO UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT, ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WANTS TO COME TO THIS SITE WILL HAVE TO REZONE. SO TAKING A LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE 2017 PLAN IDENTIFIES THE SITE AS URBAN CHARACTER, WHICH ALLOWS FOR VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT, MINIMAL SETBACKS AND ALLOWS FOR PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND THEN FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF. THIS IS PART OF A GATEWAY MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHICH AGAIN ALLOWS FOR COMPACT, WALKABLE AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THE PROPOSAL TO ZONE THIS TO PD AND ALLOW FOR LC3 USES IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH BOTH OF THESE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. SO. WHY NOT JUST A STRAIGHT REZONE TO LC3? WE'LL DISCUSS. THE PRESENTATION WILL PRESENT. OH OKAY I SEE I DIDN'T GET TO READ IT. OH SO OKAY TO GO INTO THAT. THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED LC3 RETAIL DISTRICT USES BUT WITH SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS. BUT THEY HAVE INCLUDED. AND THEN PART OF THE STAFF REPORT STAFF ALSO IMPOSED CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS ON THE LC3. THIS INCLUDED GAS STATIONS, MEDICAL CARE FACILITIES, CAR WASHES, ETC. BUT AFTER RELEASING THE STAFF REPORT AND HAVING FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO KEEP THESE SPECIFIC USES ALLOWED AND THE PD DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. AND WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT MORE ABOUT THE THE STANDARDS FOR THOSE AS WELL. SO ALONG WITH THEIR PROPOSAL INCLUDED SOME HIGH END AREA RESTRICTIONS AS WELL AS ARCHITECTURAL, LANDSCAPING AND SIGN STANDARDS. AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE PROPOSAL TO ADD RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS TO THE SITE. SO BASICALLY ANY DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING ON THE SITE WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS WITHIN THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE TIED TO THE SITE. SO ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SIDE, WE'RE PROPOSING TO RESTRICT THOSE LC3 USES AND ALSO INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS ON THE HEIGHT, AREA, ARCHITECTURAL, LANDSCAPING AND SIGN. SO TO GO INTO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THE HEIGHT AND AREA REGULATIONS, THE PROPOSED USE, IN ORDER TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN AND WANTING TO MAKE IT MORE OF AN URBAN CHARACTER, FEEL. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF IS PROVIDING IS THAT INSTEAD OF MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACKS TO ALLOW FOR MAXIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACKS OF ABOUT 20FT, AND THEN WE'RE HAVING THE MINIMUM OF TEN FEET AND A SIDE YARD OF A MAXIMUM OF 20FT ONLY IF THEY'RE ADJACENT TO THE STREET SIDE. AND SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS BRING THE BUILDINGS FORWARD AND ALLOW FOR [01:00:03] PARKING TO BE KIND OF LOCATED MORE TOWARDS THE INTERIOR FOR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, ALLOWING FOR AWNINGS AND CANOPIES AS PART OF THE BUILDING FACADE AND INTEGRATING THEM INTO THE BUILDING FACADE AND FOR LANDSCAPING STANDARDS, MAINTAINING THAT 20 FOOT LANDSCAPING BUFFER ALONG HIGHWAY SIX AND VICKSBURG. BUT THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALLOWING SOME SMALLER CANOPY TREES OR ACCESSORY TREES TO ALLOW FOR THAT SORT OF FRONT VISIBILITY TO BE MAINTAINED ALONG THOSE AREAS. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, PART OF THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED IS ABOUT A PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE. AND SO ALSO ALLOWING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AND PUTTING THAT TOWARDS THE ISLAND AND DIAMOND REQUIREMENT OF THE INTERIOR LANDSCAPING. AND THEN FOR THE SIGN STANDARDS, THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST ABOUT EIGHT MONUMENT SIGNS ON THE SITE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO ALLOW ONE MONUMENT SIGN PER TENANT THAT IS GOING TO BE LOCATED ALONG THE HIGHWAY SIX CORRIDOR, 115 TALL MONUMENT SIGN FOR THE MAIN VICKSBURG BOULEVARD ENTRANCE AND THEN ONE ENTRY MONUMENT SIGN LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY SIX AND VICKSBURG. AND SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT ENTRY ENTRY MONUMENT SIGN COULD LOOK LIKE. AND SO THE RESTRICTION ON THAT IS FOR THE PRIMARY ANCHOR TENANT TO HAVE A MAXIMUM SQUARE FEET OF 160FT■!S, THE JUNIOR ANCHOR TENANT WOULD HAVE 96FT■!, AND THEN ANY ADDITIONAL TENANTS WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM OF ABOUT ONE 60FT■!S BETWEEN ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL TENANTS. AND THEN JUST GOING OVER THE PUBLIC NOTICING REQUIREMENTS. SO NOTICE WAS SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS ON OCTOBER 10TH. THIS WAS ALSO THE DATE THAT THERE WAS SIGNS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY NOTIFYING EVERYBODY OF THE ZONING REQUEST. AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC INPUT. I KNOW PROTEST LETTERS OR SUPPORT LETTERS. AND THEN THE TENTATIVE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THIS APPLICATION FOR CITY COUNCIL IS MONDAY, JANUARY 5TH, 2026. AND SO IN CONCLUSION, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL CONDITIONS FOR THE SITE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HAS A PRESENTATION READY FOR YOU ALL TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE ON THE SQUARE FEET ON THE SIGNAGE? HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS? SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND LOOKING TO MAXIMIZE AND PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT. SO OBVIOUSLY THE ANCHOR TENANT SHOULD BE THE BIGGEST DRAW. SO THEIR SIGNS SHOULD BE MOST PROMINENT WITH THE JUNIOR TENANT SIMILARLY SITUATED. SO SIGNAGE THAT'S COMPARABLE TO WHAT'S OUT THERE IN TERMS OF SIZE HEIGHT, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A SIGN THAT IS SO MUCH LARGER ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT YOU DON'T FIND ON THE WALMART PROPERTY OR THE PROPERTIES AT THAT INTERSECTION, BUT THEN GIVING THEM ENOUGH SIGNAGE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE VISIBILITY THAT'S NEEDED. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. WE'RE READY FOR THE APPLICANT. HEY, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS SCOTT COLE. I'M WITH REALTY OUT OF NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE. I'M PLEASED TO BRING YOU AND PRESENT YOU THIS PROJECT FOR THE SPROUTS PD IN MISSOURI CITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR ANCHOR TENANT IS SPROUTS FARMERS MARKET, AN ORGANIC GROCERY STORE. WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO BE HERE. AND ALSO SPROUTS IS VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE AS WELL. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OH PERFECT. THANK YOU. THE MISSOURI CITY PD AS OUTLINED BY STAFF, WE'RE PROPOSING RETAIL SUITES IN LINE WITH THE ANCHOR TENANT AS WELL AS SEVEN OUTPARCELS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS MARKUP THAT WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO, TO REPRESENT THEIR NEEDS AND WANTS AS WELL AS OURS. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SPROUTS TO BE LOCATED ON THE EASTERNMOST PROPERTY LINE, ALONG WITH THE 17,000FT■!S OF INLINE RETAIL ON THIS. ON THIS SITE PLAN, WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS WE REALLY WANTED TO WE HEARD STAFF'S REQUEST FOR MAKING THIS FEEL LIKE A WALKABLE SITE. YOU KNOW, REALLY BRINGING THAT SENSE OF OF COMMUNITY MIXED USE. SO WE IMPLEMENTED WE TOOK OUT PARKING AND WE IMPLEMENTED IT WITH A GREEN SPACE. WALKABLE, NOT TRAIL. IF YOU BUT WANTED TO INCREASE THE GREEN SPACE AS [01:05:01] MUCH AS POSSIBLE THERE WITH LANDSCAPING AND AND SIDEWALKS INTERCONNECTING THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. WE BELIEVE THE SITE DESIGN IT WILL PROHIBITED INCOMPATIBLE USES IN ADDITION TO PRIVATE COVENANTS, MODIFIED SETBACKS TO ALLOW FOR MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO INTEGRATE INTO AN ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. WE WANT TO ENHANCE LANDSCAPE BUFFERING WITH PUBLIC SEATING, BENCHES AND THAT LANDSCAPE FEATURE IN THE PARKING LOT THAT I MENTIONED. PROMENADE. THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE SITE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT ARCHITECTURE HERE, HERE IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES, WITH A COMMON ARCHITECTURAL THEME THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SITE WE WANT. WE ALWAYS USE QUALITY MATERIALS, TOP OF THE LINE MATERIALS WITH WITH ARTICULATED FACADES TO BRING A CLASS A SHOPPING CENTER. AS WE JUST DISCUSSED SIGNAGE, WE WILL HAVE A UNIFIED SITE PLAN OR SIGNAGE PLAN. THE DESIGN IS GOING TO BE REFLECTIVE OF THE SITE'S ARCHITECTURE, WITH SIGNAGE INCLUDING SIMILAR SIMILAR MATERIALS AND THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDINGS. WITH THAT PRIMARY MONUMENT SIGN AT THE CORNER OF VICKSBURG AND HIGHWAY SIX THAT WAS A MUTUAL DECISION BY STAFF THAT WE WORKED WITH TO COME UP WITH. DID I GO BACK? I'M SORRY. NO. SO, AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THAT THAT PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE THAT CONNECTS TO THE INNER PEDESTRIAN USES ACROSS THE SITE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON VICKSBURG. AND PLEASE NOTE THAT THAT THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER WILL CONTINUE DOWN VICKSBURG. THIS THIS SITE PLAN WAS JUST DONE FOR THE SPROUTS RETAIL. BUT IT WILL BE IT WILL CONTINUE DOWN ACROSS VICKSBURG. OUR ARCHITECTS CREATED THIS RENDERING HERE FOR YOUR REVIEW. AND PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS RENDERING WAS DONE INITIALLY EARLY IN DESIGN, WHERE WE PREVIOUSLY HAD THE SPROUTS FLIPPED. THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN REFLECTING IS ACTUALLY SPROUTS ON THE OTHER SIDE, SO JUST IMAGINE THIS MIRRORED DOWN THE MIDDLE SPROUTS FEATURES THERE JERICHO JADE BARN THAT THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF WHAT THIS IS, INCLUDING THEIR PROTOTYPICAL SIGNAGE AND THEIR OUTDOOR DISPLAY SHOWN UNDER THE BARN. THE RETAIL SHOPS WILL FEATURE ARTICULATED FACADES, AWNINGS, LIGHTING, AS IT WAS INDICATED IN THE STAFF REPORT. LIGHTING UNDERNEATH. UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY. HERE'S THAT PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING FROM A STREET VIEW AS IT INTEGRATES WITH THE SITE. HERE'S OUR SIGNAGE. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE DELIVERED FOR SPROUTS IN THE PAST AS THEIR MONUMENT SIGN, AND AS IT RELATES TO THE TO THE EIGHT FOOT BY TEN FOOT MONUMENT SIGN. THE THE IMAGE ON YOUR LEFT IS WHAT WE'RE AIMING TO ACHIEVE THAT 20 FOOT TALL. AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT 20 FOOT TALL BY 18 FOOT TALL WAS PREVIOUSLY WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH CITY STAFF, AND WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT WHERE WE WANTED TO CREATE A STYLISTIC APPROACH TO THIS SIGN THAT REALLY DEFINED THE CHARACTER OF THE SHOPPING CENTER AND STORE. I AND JENNIFER, I BELIEVE, SENT A SNIPPET OF A SIGN THAT LOOKED SOMEWHAT LIKE WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT, AND WE DECIDED TO WORK WITH THEM AND PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE LIKE THIS. AND BOTH STAFF AND AND SPROUTS ARE AMENABLE TO, TO A DESIGN LIKE THIS. OBVIOUSLY MATERIALS WILL BE MATCHING TO THAT OF THE SHOPPING CENTER CHARACTERISTICS. BUT A STYLISTIC APPROACH LIKE THIS. SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME HEARTBURN ON THIS PROJECT FROM OUR END. WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR ENGINEERS, KIMLEY-HORN, WHO ARE DESIGNING THE HYDRAULIC FEATURES OF THE SITE AND QUICKLY LEARNED THAT WE NEED MORE DETENTION. SO THE POTENTIAL CHANGES FOR THIS PROJECT ARE AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CURRENT LANDOWNER TO DESIGN A MASTER DETENTION POND THAT WILL ACCOUNT FOR OUR WATER FLOWS AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. WATER FLOWS WHEN THEY GET DEVELOPED. SO THOSE THOSE THAT POND WILL BE DESIGNED TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS ENTIRE SITE ONCE FULLY DEVELOPED. WITH THAT CHANGE, IT INCURRED AN ADDITIONAL COST. SO WE HAD TO INCREASE THE ADDITIONAL RETAIL FRONTAGE AND ADD MORE LEASABLE AREA SO THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ADDING MORE RETAIL. NEXT ADJACENT TO THE SPROUTS. AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT WE ARE PLANNING FOR FUTURE FUTURE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO WHATEVER COMES AFTER US. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME COUNCIL OR COMMISSIONERS, I APPRECIATE IT. [01:10:06] THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANY QUESTIONS I'VE ASKED? IS THIS YOUR FIRST DEVELOPMENT IN HOUSTON? WE HAVE. I'VE ONLY BEEN WITH REALTY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, SO I, I KNOW WE GBDT HAS DEVELOPED IN HOUSTON BEFORE. WE ARE ALL OVER TEXAS. WE'RE IN FLORIDA. GEORGIA. OHIO, INDIANA, A LOT OF STATES. SPROUTS IS TARGETED HOUSTON AS A AS A HOT SPOT THAT THEY WANT TO BE IN. SO THIS WILL BE MY FIRST DEVELOPMENT IN HOUSTON. IN YOUR PARKING SPACE. DID YOU GUYS CONSIDER ANY TYPE OF EV CHARGING STATIONS OR SO FORTH IN THAT AREA? WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED EV CHARGING STATIONS FOR THIS SITE, BUT WE CAN WE CAN CONSIDER AND LOOK AT HOW THAT LOOKS ON ON A SITE PLAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ONE ONE LAST THING. I'M SORRY AS IT RELATES TO THE USES THAT ARE PROHIBITED, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INCLUDE AUTO USERS, AUTO SERVICE USERS ON ON THOSE OUT PARCELS. CURRENTLY WE IT IS A PROHIBITED USE. BUT I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE ARE REQUESTING THAT USE BE USABLE FOR FOR OUR PROPERTY. GOOD. YEAH. GOOD EVENING, ETHAN HARWELL I'M A PLANNER WITH KIMLEY-HORN HELPING DEVELOP THE PD. SOME OF THE USES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BY STAFF, IN ADDITION TO THOSE THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY NEGOTIATED, ARE USES THAT ARE REALLY CRITICAL TO CREATING AN ACTIVE SHOPPING CENTER HERE. YOU KNOW, AS A THIS SHOPPING CENTER WILL BE ANCHORED BY A NATIONAL BRAND GROCER WHO DOES HAVE EXTREMELY THIN MARGINS. RIGHT. AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE SOLE DRIVER OF ACTIVITY THAT WE KNOW CREATES A ACTIVE AND SUSTAINABLE SHOPPING CENTER. SO BY INCORPORATING SOME OF THOSE USES THAT WERE PROHIBITED, LIKE BANKS, GAS STATIONS, SALONS, BARBERSHOPS, IT HELPS DRIVE ACTIVITY IN THE SHOPPING CENTER IN DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY AT DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK, CREATING A MORE COHESIVE AND CONVENIENCE ORIENTED CENTER FOR RESIDENTS. THOSE TENANTS ALSO HELP SHARE THAT RENT BURDEN FOR MAINTAINING THE SHOPPING CENTER, AND SO INCLUDING THOSE USES IS IS PRETTY CRITICAL FOR US, ESPECIALLY THE BANK, MEDICAL OFFICE, CAR WASH AND GAS STATION. YES, SIR. WE'RE HAPPY TO CONSIDER ANY DESIGN STANDARDS THAT MAY GO ALONG WITH THAT TO MAKE ANY OF THOSE USES MORE PALATABLE TO YOU ALL AS WELL. CAN I ASK YOU WHILE HE'S HERE, WHICH ONE WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU TO EXCLUDE? SO WE ADDED MOST ALL OF THOSE USES TO EXCLUDE AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING TO PUSH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MORE RETAIL, COMMERCIAL BUSINESS TYPES ALONG THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. SO WE HAVE HAD THESE THE CONVERSATION WITH THEM IN TERMS OF THE VALUE THAT THEY'VE ARGUED THAT IT WOULD BRING TO THE DEVELOPMENT. THESE ARE SOME OF THE THE USES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE AS BEING OVERSATURATED WITHIN MANY OF OUR MAJOR CORRIDORS, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WE DON'T ENVISION THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER BEING USED FOR THESE THESE USES, BUT THEY'RE CRITICAL USES THAT HELP COMPLEMENT THEM. IN ADDITION TO THE RESTRICTIONS FROM THE PD, GPT AND SPROUTS WORK TOGETHER ON A REAL ESTATE AGREEMENT THAT ALL TENANTS MUST SIGN THAT HELP REGULATE A LOT OF THOSE NUISANCE USES. YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE ADULT STORES OR VAPE SHOPS, THOSE TYPES OF UNDESIRABLE USES YOU DON'T WANT IN YOUR COMMUNITY. IT ALSO DICTATES A LOT OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, MATERIALS AND THE WAY TENANTS USE THE SITE. SO WE ARE VERY KEEN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NAME BRAND LIKE SPROUTS. WE'RE VERY KEEN ON MAINTAINING A HIGH QUALITY SHOPPING CENTER. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. JUST HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT IT. I KNOW IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE FORT BEND TOWN CENTER. I KNOW THIS LAND BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG TIME. I KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO SELL IT AND ALL THAT STUFF. JUST HAD TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS. WHEN WE BRING IN THE PRODUCTS OVER THERE. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OVER THERE. THERE ARE THREE CAR WASHES ALREADY THERE, AND THERE ARE BUILDINGS IN FRONT OF THE WALMART RATHER MORE VACANT. SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW VACANT PROPERTIES, THE THE STRIP CENTERS OR RETAIL CENTERS. SO WHEN WE BRING THESE AND I SAW THE EXCLUSION LIST, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS WHEN WE BRING IN TOO MUCH COMPETITION TO THAT AREA BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THAT AREA. AND I THINK IT'S GETTING A LOT BETTER. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO SUGARLAND RIGHT NOW TO DO ANY OF THE SHOPPING. WE CAN DO PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IN THAT LOCATION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANT TO DECLINE THAT AREA. THE [01:15:03] REASON I SAY THAT IS ON THE VICKSBURG ITSELF, THERE WAS A GAS STATION WITH MCDONALD'S. EVER SINCE MCDONALD'S MOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. THE GAS STATION IS KIND OF DEAD RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YES. THE PROFILE OF A SPROUTS CUSTOMER HAS MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME TYPICALLY OR HIGHER EDUCATED. SO HAVE YOU TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT YOU WANT TO BE ADJACENT TO THE ANCHOR RETAILER, WHICH IS SPROUTS, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET MORE FOOT TRAFFIC AND YOU WANT INDIVIDUALS TO COME TO THAT CENTER EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT SHOPPING AT SPROUTS. FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT OF VIEW, YOU WANT OTHER TENANTS, BUT YOU GOT TO GET CUSTOMERS THERE. SO LOOKING AT THE PROFILE OF THE TYPICAL CUSTOMER THAT SHOPS AT SPROUTS, IT WOULD TO ME, I DON'T WANT TO SAY MAKE SENSE, BUT TO LOOK AT THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT THAT PROFILE OF A CUSTOMER WOULD BE LOOKING TO POSSIBLY ENGAGE WITH IF THEY WERE COMING TO SHOP AT SPROUTS. OH YES SIR, ABSOLUTELY. YOUR TYPICAL USER TO SPROUTS IS GOING TO HAVE MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER OTHER NAME BRAND GROCERY STORES. SO AS WE THINK ABOUT THE TYPES OF USERS AND SCOTT CAN SPEAK TO THIS MORE AFTER I'M DONE. BUT AS WE LOOK AT THE TYPICAL USES THAT WE WANT HERE, THEY ARE GOING TO BE MORE FAMILY ORIENTED AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE SERVICE ORIENTED. AND SO WE WANT TO BE AND I PULLED UP THE SITE PLAN TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS. WE WANT THIS TO BE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN COME RUN YOUR ERRANDS, GRAB THAT ITEM YOU NEED FROM THE GROCERY STORE, BUT WHERE PEOPLE CAN LINGER AND STAY AND TAKE CARE OF OTHER SERVICES OR NEEDS THEY HAVE WHILE THEY'RE HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, PERSONAL SERVICES, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS WE ENVISION HERE. AND WHEN I SAY PERSONAL SERVICES, I MEAN PLACES WHERE YOU GO TO DO BUSINESS OR HAVE A SERVICE DONE, SALONS, BANKS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN IMAGINE COMING TO THE SHOPPING CENTER, GETTING SOME CASH OUT OF THE ATM, RUNNING INTO THE STORE AND GRABBING SOMETHING BEFORE YOUR HAIRCUT APPOINTMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU HOW TO RUN YOUR BUSINESS, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE OR REPLICATE THAT. THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT THAT PROFILE OF A CUSTOMER WOULD POSSIBLY COME TO IF THEY'RE COMING TO SHOP AT SPROUTS. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT OTHER BUSINESSES ALSO THAT ARE MAYBE NOT IN EXISTENCE IN THAT AREA CURRENTLY. YES, SIR. LET ME TURN LET ME POINT OUT ONE THING ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. AND THEN I'LL LET SCOTT SPEAK TO THIS, A FEATURE THAT I REALLY ENJOY ABOUT THIS CONCEPT PLAN IS THE PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE. IT'S GOING TO HELP USERS MOVE AROUND THE SITE, CREATING KIND OF MORE OF THAT ACTIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE STAY IN SHOP. BUT LET ME HAND OVER TO SCOTT. YEAH. THANK YOU. ETHAN. MR. COMMISSIONER, I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION, YOUR CONCERN, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE USERS THAT WE ARE CONCERNED WITH WILL ONLY MAKE UP, YOU KNOW, ONE, TWO, THREE OF THE OUT PARCELS, THE REMAINING USERS IN THOSE SHOP BUILDINGS AND THE AND THE JUNIOR ANCHOR THAT WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING WILL BE EXTREMELY HIGH END USERS. SPROUTS HAS A LIST OF RESTRICTED EXCLUSIVE USERS THAT WE ALWAYS ADHERE TO. WE ARE NOT BRINGING ANYTHING BELOW TOP OF THE LINE BUSINESSES AND USERS, AND THAT'S JUST HOW SPROUTS HAS REQUIRED US TO OPERATE. AND EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DELIVER A SHOPPING CENTER, IT HAS BEEN WITH CLASS A TENANTS, TOP OF THE LINE USERS, AND IT HAS BEEN A SMASH HIT. AND SO WE WE'VE WE FEEL ABSOLUTELY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DELIVER THOSE TYPES OF USERS TO THIS CENTER. IT WASN'T SO MUCH QUESTIONING THE TYPES. WHAT MY POINT WAS, IF THERE ARE EXISTING TYPES OF SERVICES OR BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THAT LOCATION, LOOK FOR OTHER OPTIONS ON THAT LIST, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. I UNDERSTAND YOU, YES, SIR, AND WE ABSOLUTELY WILL. WE HAVE A WHOLE TEAM OF LEASING AGENTS WHO ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING. DIFFERENT USERS AND TYPES OF BUSINESSES. AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ELI WASHINGTON, WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO TO FOSTER THAT THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO THANK YOU. EVERYBODY. SO THE LIST OF. PROHIBITED BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. IN YOUR OPINION. WHAT'S ON THAT LIST THAT YOU DON'T WANT ON THAT LIST SPECIFICALLY? THE TYPEKIT. YES. SO OUR TOP FOUR WOULD BE BANK CAR WASH, GAS STATION AND MEDICAL OFFICE OKAY. OKAY. [01:20:01] THANK YOU. WE NEED THAT INPUT. NOT NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE YOU GET IT. BUT WE NEED THAT INPUT. AND AS I MENTIONED WE UNDERSTAND WITH CERTAIN THINGS ESPECIALLY LIKE GAS STATIONS OR CAR WASHES OR BANKS, THERE ARE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS THERE. WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSING THOSE WITH YOU AS WELL. ARRANGEMENT OF THE SITE OR LOCATIONS OF DRIVE THRUS, THAT KIND OF THING, OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY SPECIAL USE PERMIT OPTION OPEN TO ALL THAT WITH YOU GUYS. I CAN GET THE BANK ONE. THE OTHER ONES I'M NOT SURE. WELL IT DEPENDS I GUESS MEDICAL OFFICE IS KIND OF A BROAD CATEGORY, RIGHT. SO IT MIGHT HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE WHAT TYPE OF MEDICAL OFFICE THAT THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. OKAY. SO WE ARE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. GO AHEAD AND PLACE YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM TWO. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON 8B1. SO. YOU SORT OF ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT LC THREE VERSUS PD. AND IS THE MOTIVATION BETWEEN THE PERIMETER USES PRIMARILY THE VIEW THAT THERE'S A SATURATION OF THOSE BUSINESSES. YEAH I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT BUT I WILL SAY YOU KNOW WE'RE MARKET DRIVEN RIGHT. AND. LIKE I SAID YOU KNOW I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE OR SOME OF THESE THINGS, IF YOU WANT TO STOP AT THE BANK, THAT WOULD BE VERY CONVENIENT, RIGHT? MOST OF THESE OTHER ONES, MAYBE NOT. NOT AS MUCH. ALTHOUGH THE THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD OTHER OPTION TO. GROOMING PET GROOMING, RIGHT? THEY DROP YOUR PET OFF AND THEN GO SHOPPING. RIGHT? DISCUSSION COMMENTS COULD WE COULD COULD WE GIVE THEM SOME AND NOT GIVE THEM SOME? YES. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE RECOMMENDATION, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS ALL THE USES PROHIBITED AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT IS TO STILL ALLOW THE GAS STATIONS, MEDICAL CARE FACILITY, CAR WASH BANKS, VET OFFICE, BARBER AND BEAUTY SHOPS AND AUTO USES. THAT IS THEIR REQUEST. BUT THE COMMISSION CAN CHOOSE TO ACCEPT ANY OF THOSE OR EVEN PUT A LIMITATION ON THE AMOUNT. WELL, OBVIOUSLY. WELL, MAYBE NOT OBVIOUSLY, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT IT'S IN THEIR INTEREST NOT TO HAVE MULTIPLES OF THOSE. THIS IS 12 ACRES. YEAH. IT'S. YES, 1213 1313 ACRES. YEAH. OKAY. BUT BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING FOR THOSE NOT TO BE EXCLUDED, THAT THOSE WILL BE THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES OR SERVICES. IT'S ALL MARKET DRIVEN. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. NICE PROJECT THOUGH. THANK YOU. AND TO CLARIFY BY THE AMOUNT OF YOU COULD ALLOW IS MAYBE LIKE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE BUSINESSES ALLOWED ARE OF THE FOLLOWING CATEGORY COULD BE CONSIDERED. SAY THAT AGAIN, LIKE A A PERCENTAGE OF THE ALLOWED BUSINESSES IN THE CENTER COULD BE OF THE INCLUDED USES. IT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION. YEAH BUT THOSE ARE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FINANCIAL VERSUS GROOMING. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ALL THE SAME CATEGORY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WE WE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT BUT WHAT ABOUT THE [01:25:08] LIMITATIONS. BASICALLY YOU'RE WANT US TO APPROVE THE STAFF REPORT AS WRITTEN. CORRECT. NOW SEE HE'S CHANGING HIS MIND WITH MAYBE A TWO. I'M NOT THE CAR WASH. I COULD SEE THE BANK. I COULD SEE THE MEDICAL, WHICH COULD BE A CLINIC OR. MISSION. GROOMING ON THE CUSP, THE CAR WASH AND THE AUTO REPAIR. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REPAIR OR SERVICES. I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S AN AUTO ZONE OR RILEY OR. BUT DON'T WE HAVE. IT'S ONE. IT'S NOT ONE. IT'S ACROSS. IT'S ACROSS HIGHWAY SIX. SO TO CLARIFY, CURRENTLY THE CONDITION OF THE PROHIBITED USE WOULD BE TIRES, BATTERIES, AUTO ACCESSORY USES AND REPAIRS. THAT'S A I DON'T WANT TO CALL ANY BUSINESSES NAMES, BUT THAT'S. YEAH. YEAH. COME ON. SO JENNIFER, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW DOES THIS DOES THIS TIE INTO THE VISION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO? AND THAT'S THE CONSIDERATION THAT YOU HAVE HERE. SO PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS IS ENCOURAGED IS NOT ONLY THE. KIND OF THEMES OR TYPES OF USES TO MAKE IT MORE AMENITY, AMENITY FOCUSED, YOU KNOW, RETAIL FOCUSED, THE AMENITIES THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING THOSE ON SITE, BUT ALSO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS, MAKING THOSE MORE MOVING IT MORE TO AN URBAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LAYOUT. SO YOU HAVE MORE OF A LIFESTYLE KIND OF DESIGN WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND TIME THERE. SO YOU'RE NOT JUST GOING, YOU KNOW, TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE. YOU MAY GO, YOU KNOW, TO CONNECT WITH FRIENDS OR, YOU KNOW, FAMILY OR YOU KNOW OTHERS WHILE YOU USE THE SERVICES THAT ARE IN THE CENTER. SO THAT'S WHERE THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THIS FOR THE URBAN CHARACTER, WHICH IS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THE CITY HAS TO PUSH THOSE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS, THOSE MORE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER INTENSITY KIND OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES. AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED. THIS FALLS IN LINE AGAIN WITH, RIGHT IN THAT FORT BEND PARKWAY, HIGHWAY SIX INTERSECTION. WE KNOW HOW THE FORT BEND PARKWAY IS GOING TO EXPAND IN DECADES TO COME. SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE LOTS OF TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA FROM REGIONAL, FROM NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, BUT ALSO FROM PEOPLE TRAVELING THROUGH OUR CITY. SO THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THOSE PATTERNS. AND I'M SURE THE SUPPLIER OR THE VENDOR HAS DONE THEIR DUE MARKET DUE DILIGENCE BECAUSE OF COURSE, SPROUTS IS A SPECIALTY TYPE OF STORE. SO THEY'VE DONE THEIR MARKET DUE DILIGENCE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FOOTPRINT IS AND SO FORTH. AND THEY'VE TRUSTED THAT JUDGMENT I GUESS. THAT OPPORTUNITY. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE PUTTING ALL THOSE LIMITATIONS ON SOMEONE THAT'S REALLY INVESTING NOT ONLY A TRACK RECORD, BUT THEY HAVE A MODEL THAT WORKS. AND TAKE OUT THE RESTRICTIONS. YEAH, IN THIS CASE, IT'S HARD ENOUGH. I MEAN, IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. THEY GOT A FOOTPRINT. ABSOLUTELY. IT WAS NOT THE TRUSTED PLAN. THAT'S THE QUESTION. WHY WOULD WE NOT TRUST SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN WORKING EVERYPLACE ELSE? WELL, AS STORY SAID THAT WE COULD ALSO SAY THAT THESE PROHIBITED USES, WE CAN ALLOW THEM TO OCCUPY TEN, 15, 20% OF THE AVAILABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR SOMETHING. AND THAT THAT WOULD MAYBE ALLEVIATE THE THE FEEL OF OVERSATURATION. OR WE CAN KIND OF PARE DOWN THE LIST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I KIND OF HAVE MY ONES, BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET'S GOING TO BRING. RIGHT. AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A SAFER BET JUST TO MAYBE SAY A PERCENTAGE. AND, AND LET THE MARKET DRIVE THAT. SO WHAT WOULD BE A FAIR AND EQUITABLE PERCENTAGE THEN. LET ME ASK THE APPLICANT. IF WE WERE TO SET A PERCENTAGE AND YOU GUYS HAD A FREE PASS, WHAT WOULD THAT PERCENTAGE LOOK LIKE? WELL, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T DO MORE THAN ONE CAR WASH PER PER THE WHOLE OUT LOTS. WE WOULD [01:30:03] NEVER DO MORE THAN ONE GAS STATION FOR THE ENTIRE OUTLOTS. AND SO WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWN IS. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT A MATH WHIZ, SO I CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE PERCENTAGES IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW, BUT LIMIT US TO. I WOULD SUGGEST LIMITING US TO ONE USE PER OUT PARCEL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. DID I DESCRIBE THAT RIGHT. SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID, IF WE DID A BANK, WE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO OBVIOUSLY DO ANOTHER BANK ON ANOTHER OUT PARCEL. OR IF WE DID A CAR WASH ON ONE PARCEL, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANOTHER CAR WASH ON ANOTHER PARCEL. YEAH, YOU'RE CONVINCED ME. I WANT TO JUST PARE THE LIST DOWN, BECAUSE USING THAT CAR WASH THING AGAIN, A GAS STATION, THOSE WOULD BE THE TWO THINGS I DON'T WANT THERE. YEAH, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE OTHER ONES, LIKE YOU HAVE MEDICAL CARE FACILITIES ON THE LIST, BUT. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT INCLUDES DOCTORS OFFICES. RIGHT. NOT SO MUCH DOCTOR'S OFFICES. AND WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GO AFTER ANY PARTICULAR BUSINESSES. BUT WE DO SEE AN INFLUX OF DENTAL, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS TYPES OF DENTAL OFFICES THAT TEND TO LOCATE WITHIN THESE MULTI-TENANT, FOR SURE. YEAH. AND AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I LIKE AUTO REPAIR PLACES BEING IN THAT KIND OF PLACE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AUTO PARTS STORE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT FIT. WELL, I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY'S ENAMORED WITH CAR WASHES. WE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND I CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE WISE OR NOT ADDRESS BUT UNDERSTAND WHY. AND KIND OF EASE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. SO WE WORK WITH THE TWO TWO PRIMARY GAS STATIONS. SPEAKING ON THE GAS STATIONS. THESE ARE NOT FRANCHISEE OWNED. THESE ARE CORPORATE OWNED. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A WELL MAINTAINED BUILDING AND FACADE BECAUSE IT IS CORPORATE OWNED. AND WE'RE ALSO AMENABLE TO ARCHITECTURAL UPGRADES ON THOSE ON THOSE USERS. WE CAN GOVERN THOSE IN AN AREA. AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT AN AREA IS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN HOA FOR A SHOPPING CENTER SO THAT WE'RE ENSURING THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER IS COMPLIANT WITH THOSE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS. AND WE'VE DONE IT ALMOST ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR SHOPPING CENTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND OUR 36 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR SON IS TRULY A PILLAR IN THE COMMUNITY, SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM WANT TO STOP THERE. THAT'S THE GOAL HERE. CORRECT. AND AND, YOU KNOW, TO ADD ON TO THAT, WE SPROUTS DOESN'T WANT BAD THOSE TYPE OF USERS THAT WOULDN'T BE ATTRACTIVE. THEY WANT TO BE WHERE THE SEXY PROJECTS, THE SEXY PEOPLE ARE ESSENTIALLY, SO TO SPEAK. AND I DIDN'T MEAN IT LIKE THAT. BUT THE ATTRACTIVE USES. THAT'S RIGHT. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT BEAUTIFUL. THE URBAN APPROACH IS TO SAY, HEY, IT'S COOL TO HANG OUT HERE. I LOOK OVER THERE AND I WANT TO COME. YEAH, YEAH, SURE. IF I COULD GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT PART OF THE RAAS, FOR INSTANCE, WOULD BE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, FUEL CELL USERS COULD NOT BE LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE SPROUTS STORE. SO THAT ELIMINATES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE USERS TO GO ON THAT OUTPARCELS TO THE LEFT OR RIGHT OF THAT CENTRAL DRIVE, RIGHT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE STORE, SO THAT FUEL SALES USE WOULD BE. YOU KNOW, TUCKED OVER TO THE CORNER SCREEN, NICELY ARRANGED, WELL, WELL LIT, THAT KIND OF A THING. SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT COULD COULD BE IN THE AREAS IS IN THE AREAS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU I JUST WANT TO EXPLORE KIND OF EXPLORE WHAT OUR WHAT A SOLUTION MIGHT BE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU GUYS. GOOD IDEA. YOU GOT A BETTER MOTION. DO I HAVE A BETTER MOTION? NO, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, JOHN I, I'VE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THIS STAFF AND IT THE DEVELOPER UNDERSTANDS THE VICE CHAIR. IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO THE MIC PLEASE, THEN I CAN'T HEAR YOU. IF IF THE DEVELOPER UNDERSTANDS THE WHY, THEN I THINK STAFF CAN THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IF THEY. I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT BRIDLED AT ALL, BUT TO START A DEVELOPMENT, KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY NO TO ALL THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAYBE MAKE SENSE FOR EVERYBODY. THAT IS SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO DO. I DON'T WANT TO HANDCUFF DAY ONE, THAT THEY HAVE TO SAY NO TO ALL [01:35:05] THESE OPPORTUNITIES. BUT IF THEY BRING THEM TO YOU AND THEN THERE'S A DISCUSSION AND A IF THEY HAVE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE SELF-IMPOSED BY HAVING LIKE AN HOA FOR THE RETAIL, THAT ISN'T THAT THE DEVELOPER WE WANT? YEAH. YES. 20 WHATEVER YEARS I'VE BEEN UP HERE. YES. THAT'S THE KIND OF DEVELOPER WE WANT. OKAY. SO SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. YEAH. ONE OPTION IS TO APPROVE THE STAFF REPORT AS WRITTEN. ANOTHER ONE IS TO. COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THE RESTRICTIONS. AND KIND OF HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPER FOLLOWS THROUGH. WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE A PERCENTAGE OF SOME OF THESE PROHIBITED USES. I'M WONDERING WHY WOULD IT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER KIND OF WHAT MR. O'MALLEY SAID ABOUT LETTING STAFF AND THE AND THE APPLICANT EITHER KIND OF PARE DOWN, WORK THIS LIST TO THE ONES THAT MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND THE AND THE CITY WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT. I MEAN, CAN WE ASK THEM JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION AGAIN? OKAY. YES. LET'S JUST GO TO THE FACT THAT IT'S MARKET DRIVEN. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ARBITRARILY CHOOSE ONE OF THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES WITHOUT HAVING DONE YOUR MARKET RESEARCH. SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THAT COULD BE AN INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATION WITH EACH BUSINESS BASICALLY COMING TO STAFF AND HAVING A HEALTHY CONVERSATION. AND IF IT'S JUSTIFIABLE FROM A MARKET STANDPOINT OF VIEW, THAT MARKET SURVEY IS GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. YES. OKAY. AND IF I MIGHT ADD. WELL, NO, I TAKE THAT BACK. I'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED I APPRECIATE THAT OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE OKAY. YEAH. AND HOW WE WRITE IT IS WE PUT OUR FAITH IN THE STAFF. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO POINT OF CLARIFICATION OKAY. IF YOU GO THAT ROUTE ARE YOU. SO THE APPLICANT HAS PRESENTED A SET OF PROPOSED EXCLUDED USES. AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATION INCLUDED ADDITIONAL USES TO THAT LIST. SO WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT IN TERMS OF THE LAST MARKET ANALYSIS THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE MOTION AS WELL, BECAUSE WHATEVER THE USES ARE THAT ARE PERMITTED BY THE ZONING ARE REGARDLESS OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE OUTSIDE OF THAT, THOSE ARE THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED. SO IF THERE'S A REQUEST THAT A FEASIBILITY STUDY BE PROVIDED FOR CERTAIN USES, AND IT COULD BE THE USES THAT YOU ALL ARE DISCUSSING, THEN THAT WOULD BE PART OF THEIR SUBSEQUENT APPLICATION PROCESSES. SO THIS LIST YOU HAVE HERE, IT INCLUDES THE ONES THAT THEY ALREADY DON'T WANT. YES. SO THERE WAS A LIST THAT THEY PROVIDED WITH THEIR APPLICATION THAT THEY WERE GOING TO EXCLUDE. THAT INCLUDES LIKE CREDIT ACCESS BUSINESS, INDOOR GAME PARLORS, MOTELS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THAT'S NOT ON YOUR LIST. NO IT IS OKAY. SO YEAH OKAY. WELL WE HAVE PROVIDED IS IN ADDITION TO THEIR ORIGINAL REQUEST OKAY. ANYBODY WILLING TO CRAFT THE PART OF THE MOTION COULD BE THAT THE ONES THAT YOU INCLUDED. MAKE THE REQUIREMENT THAT THERE IS SOME MARKET ANALYSIS THAT HAS TO BE PRESENTED IF THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO PUT ONE OF THESE IN THEIR. AND YOU'RE SPEAKING TO ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF PROVIDED, ALL OF THE USES. I'M LOOKING AT THE RESTRICTED ONES HERE, AND I'M SPEAKING IN TERMS OF THE ONES THAT INCLUDE GAS STATION, MEDICAL CARE [01:40:02] FACILITIES, CAR WASH, BANK, DOG, CAT, VETERINARIAN, BARBER OR BEAUTY SHOPS. OKAY, BECAUSE THOSE SEEM TO BE THE. BIGGEST ISSUES, AM I CORRECT? CORRECT. IN TERMS OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OKAY, I AM GETTING SOME LOOKS. OKAY ON OUR ACTUAL ABILITY OKAY TO USE MARKET ANALYSIS COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST INCLUDING A MARKET ANALYSIS CONTINGENCY GIVEN THE SUBJECTIVITY OF THAT AND DELINEATING SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE USE LINES OKAY OKAY. BUT BUT WE WOULD BE OKAY TO BASICALLY HAVE STAFF SIGN OFF ON ANY USE THAT'S ON THIS LIST THAT THEY WANT TO BRING FORWARD. AS JENNIFER NOTED, IF A USE IS DESCRIBED IN THE ORDINANCE OR THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION AS PERMITTED, THEN STAFF WOULD NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO. WELL, I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE ONES THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY SAYING ARE NOT PERMITTED UNLESS APPROVED BY STAFF, KIND OF THAT KIND OF WORDING. USES WOULD HAVE TO BE DESCRIBED. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT IDEA IS OUT THE WINDOW. YEAH. SO WE'RE ALMOST BACK TO ALL OR NOTHING OR PERCENTAGE. OR THAT NO MORE THAN ONE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. YEAH OKAY. NO MORE THAN ONE. NO MORE THAN ONE GAS STATION. NO MORE THAN ONE PARCEL, WHICH IS OKAY. WHICH IS WHAT HE WAS SAYING. YEAH. OKAY. NO, NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S WRAP IT UP. YES. OKAY. MAKE A MOTION. TICK TOCK. LET ME GET THIS CORRECT. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION. THE WAY THAT HE STATED IT, WHERE THERE'S NO MORE THAN ONE OF EACH ONE OF THESE RESTRICTED BUSINESSES, ARE YOU INCLUDING THE AUTO USE? YES. OF THIS LIST. IT'S IT'S STAFF HAS PUT OUT THERE. THEY CAN HAVE NO NO MORE THAN ONE OF THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES PER PARCEL, PER PARTIZAN PER PARCEL. THAT'S FAIR. AND BUT THE REST OF IT STAFF'S REPORT IS AS AS AS WRITTEN, PRESENTED AS PRESENTED. AND GO AHEAD. SO TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE SAYING NO MORE THAN ONE GAS STATION, MEDICAL CARE FACILITY, CAR WASH BANK, VET OFFICE, BARBER AND BEAUTY SHOP AND AUTO STORE AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS ON THE LIST IS PROHIBITED AS STAFF RECOMMENDED. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THAT'S THE MOTION. CAN WE RUN THROUGH THAT AGAIN? THE LIST IS PROHIBITED. STAFF RECOMMENDED. EXCEPT FOR GAS STATIONS, MEDICAL CARE FACILITIES, CAR WASH BANK, VET OFFICE, BARBER AND BEAUTY SHOP AND AUTO ACCESSORY USES AND REPAIRS. NO MORE THAN ONE OF EACH OF THOSE USES. AND THEN ONE MORE ITEM WITH THE ALLOWANCE OF THE GAS STATION. THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT BEFOREHAND THAT IF A GAS STATION WAS TO BE PERMITTED, THAT THE SETBACKS AS PROVIDED BY STAFF CANNOT BE APPLICABLE TO THE GAS STATION DEVELOPMENT. AND SO IN THAT SCENARIO, THE LC3 DISTRICT SETBACKS WOULD APPLY. SO THAT WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION PUBLIC SAFETY. AND IF THERE'S CHANGES TO THE ELECTRICAL CHARGING STATIONS THAT THEY WOULD APPLY TO THIS. FOR THEM TO COME BACK FOR AN AMENDMENT FOR EV CHARGING. WELL, I MEAN, IF WE IF WE MAKE CHANGES BECAUSE WE WILL BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN EXIST NOW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE COMING IN BEFOREHAND. I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS. I'M JUST KIND OF [01:45:01] TALKING OUT LOUD OR THINKING OUT LOUD. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL HIT YOUR BUTTON. EVERYBODY SURE EVERYBODY'S OKAY? OKAY. MOTION. MOTION ATTORNEY NODDED. SO GO AHEAD AND MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, OR I'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE. I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO IT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY. YES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. GENTLEMEN. YES. ALL RIGHT. WE [c. Tang City Condominiums - PD 66 Amendment] WILL MOVE ON THEN TO SEE TANG CITY CONDOMINIUMS. PD 66 AMENDMENT. THERE'S THAT. I'M MISSING THAT PAGE. HERE IT IS. OKAY. PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST A REQUEST BY BEATRICE CASTILLO, DM DESIGN AND CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF NRCS NC ASSOCIATES, LP TO AMEND THE REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED IN PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 66 TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUMS IN AN EXISTING THREE STORY BUILDING. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, I'LL PRESENT THIS ITEM. THE SUBJECT OF THIS REQUEST IS ANOTHER EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE TANG CITY PLAZA THAT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE AREA ALONG COLONIAL LAKES DRIVE AND HIGHWAY SIX, AND IT CONTAINS THE FRONTAGE, EXCEPT FOR THE 7-ELEVEN GAS STATION. BUT ALL OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUT FRONT, INCLUDING SPRING CREEK BARBECUE AND THE EMERGENCY CARE CENTER OUT THERE. AND THEN IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE BUILT DEVELOPMENT BEHIND IT THAT INCLUDES A MIX OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES. THE SUBJECT OF THIS REQUEST IS THE EXISTING THREE STORY BUILDING THAT IS OFF OF COLONIAL LAKES DRIVE. THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS APPROVED MANY YEARS AGO TO ALLOW FOR A MIX OF USES THAT INCLUDED LC3 RETAIL USES, AS WELL AS A SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY. AGE RESTRICTED. IT WAS A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER, DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNER AT THAT TIME THAT THAT USE WAS ESTABLISHED. THE CURRENT DEVELOPER, CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT HAVE AN INTENT TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING IN ACCORDANCE WITH HOW. THIS AREA,S OF THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IS PART OF THE AUTO ORIENTED CHARACTER. SO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, VEHICLE ACCESS, A CIRCULATION AND PARKING ARE DOMINANT FEATURES OF THE DEVELOPMENT. WHILE OUR OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE DOES NOT DIRECTLY LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED, THIS PROPOSAL WOULD SUPPORT EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS, INCLUDING A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES. SO WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED IS AGAIN, TO CONVERT THE TOP TWO FLOORS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. SO AGAIN, IT'S A THREE STORY BUILDING. THE BOTTOM FLOOR FIRST FLOOR WOULD CONTINUE TO BE USED FOR RETAIL COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. THERE ARE A FEW TENANTS THAT HAVE ALREADY LOCATED WITHIN THERE THAT ARE ACTIVELY OPERATING WITHIN THERE, INCLUDING A LOUNGE. THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO CONVERT THE THE SECOND AND THE THIRD FLOOR TO CONSIST OF 34 RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM UNITS. RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WOULD BE AMENDED. THERE ARE EXISTING RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE RETAIL CONDO USES IN SPACES THAT DIFFERENT OWNERS OWN, AND THAT SOME OPERATE THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, SO THERE ARE EXISTING RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT WOULD BE AMENDED TO STIPULATE OWNER OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL CONDOS FOR THIS USE. FOR PARKING, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD DESIGNATE PARKING SPECIFICALLY FOR ANY POTENTIAL RESIDENT AND THEIR GUESTS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THERE'S A SHARED PARKING ENVIRONMENT FOR THE COMMERCIAL, THE RETAIL THAT'S OUT THERE. SO THE PARKING WOULD BE IDENTIFIED FOR THOSE RESIDENTIAL USERS AS WELL. AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS HIGHLIGHTED ON SOME OF THEIR SITE PLANS A GREEN SPACE AREA THAT ALREADY EXISTS OUT ON [01:50:06] THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD ALSO SERVE AS AN AMENITY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USERS. WHAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES IS TO MAINTAIN THE LC3 RETAIL DISTRICT REGULATIONS, MAINTAIN THAT ON THE FIRST FLOOR, WHERE IT WOULD BE BECOME A MIXED USE BUILDING WITH RETAIL, COMMERCIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUMS ON THE SECOND AND THE THIRD FLOOR. ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AS WELL. SO PROVIDING THAT AS PART OF ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND ENSURING THAT THOSE ARE RECORDED INTO THE REAL PROPERTY RECORDS, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, THERE'S CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THE CURRENT PD THAT WERE DESIGNED FOR A POTENTIAL AGE RESTRICTED SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY. SO THIS RECOMMENDATION IS TO REMOVE THOSE THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY APPLICABLE TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED. SO AGAIN, IT'S BEEN FULLY CONSTRUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LC3 STANDARDS. SO YOU HAVE TRANSITIONAL BUFFERS, LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG COLONIAL LAKES DRIVE. THERE'S SOME LANDSCAPING ON THE BACK SIDE WHERE THERE'S PARKING. ALL OF THAT WAS DEVELOPED INTO AN LC3. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO MODIFY THAT BASED ON THE CURRENT PD STANDARDS. THE PD CURRENTLY EXEMPTS THE RESIDENTIAL USE FROM PROVIDING GARAGES. THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAINTAIN THAT EXEMPTION AND NOT REQUIRE NEW GARAGE STRUCTURES TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTIAL USE, BUT IN IDENTIFYING THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING TO DEFINE IT WITH CARPORTS, AND SO REQUIRING THAT 50% OF THE REQUIRED PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL BE INCLUDED IN COVERED PARKING CARPORTS. FINALLY, ON LANDSCAPING AGAIN AS MENTIONED, THERE IS EXISTING LANDSCAPING OUT THERE. THERE'S LANDSCAPING THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND REPAIRED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LC3 REQUIREMENTS. AND SO PART OF THIS RECOMMENDATION IS MOVING FORWARD IN BUILDING OUT ANY KIND OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT THAT LANDSCAPING THAT'S REQUIRED ALONG COLONIAL LAKES. THE SHRUBS TO SCREEN THE PARKING AREA THAT'S ALONG THE PERIMETER, ANY TREES OR ASSOCIATED TREES THAT ALL OF THAT IS REPLACED AND MAINTAINED. OKAY, OKAY, I SAID FINALLY, JUST A FEW MORE PARKING PROVIDING THE DESIGNATED RESIDENT GUEST PARKING, NOT REQUIRING COMMUNITY FENCING, WHICH IS STANDARD FOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS ALONG STREET FRONTAGES, BUT NOT REQUIRING A FENCE ALONG COLONIAL LAKES, BUT INSTEAD UTILIZING THE THE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING, AND THEN ALSO REQUIRING THE GREEN SPACE AS AN AMENITY. PUBLIC NOTICE WAS SENT OUT EARLIER LAST MONTH, AS WELL AS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY. AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL WRITTEN PROTESTS. ONE SUPPORT LETTER HAS BEEN RECEIVED, THE REMAINDER HAVE BEEN PROTEST, AND THOSE PROTESTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION. SO THE RECOMMENDATION AGAIN, WHILE THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND PD 66, REMOVING THE REFERENCES TO THE AGE RESTRICTED SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY ALLOWING FOR RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM USE WITH THE CONDITIONS AS SUMMARIZED IN THIS PRESENTATION, THE APPLICANT WAS UNABLE TO JOIN US TONIGHT. THEY HAVE PROVIDED A LETTER WHICH I BELIEVE HAS BEEN PASSED OUT TO THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR COMMENTS, AND THAT IS MY REPORT. THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE TONIGHT. I STAND CORRECTED, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE APPLICANTS HAVE MADE IT SO. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THIS. AND IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT. BUT SO THEY NEVER ACTUALLY THEY BUILT THIS BUILDING BUT THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY BUILD IT TO HOUSE THE INDEPENDENT LIVING. RIGHT. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE BASICALLY GOING TO HAVE TO REMODEL THESE TWO UPPER FLOORS TO, TO BREAK IT UP INTO CONDOMINIUMS. AND I THINK IN THE REPORT, I DON'T THINK IT WAS UP HERE THAT SAID, THERE'LL BE 34 UNITS. OKAY. WHICH I BELIEVE IN THE IN THE PD, IT SAID 28 TO 30, 28 TO 30 OR 24 [01:55:09] OR 20 8 TO 42 PER DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, GROSS ACRE. CORRECT. CORRECT. AND SO I MEAN, WHERE ARE WE ON THE LOW END, THE HIGH END, THIS THIS IS FAR BELOW. AND SO THE PD WOULD HAVE ALLOWED UP TO I THINK 202 HUNDRED. CORRECT. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. SO INITIALLY WHEN I READ THIS AGAIN I DIDN'T GET THE REPORT. IT FELT LIKE WE'RE JUST GOING TO ELIMINATE THE 55 RESTRICTION. AND AND WE'RE KIND OF DOING THAT. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ADDED THE CONDOMINIUM PIECE IN THERE, WHICH I GUESS THE INDEPENDENT LIVING THING WOULDN'T OFFICIALLY BE CHARACTERIZED AS A CONDOMINIUM. IT WOULD JUST BE LIKE LIKE AN APARTMENT, ALMOST. RIGHT. INDEPENDENT LIVING WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO JUST RENTING OR LEASING THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS. CORRECT? OKAY. YEAH. SO SO WE ALSO THEN ELIMINATED THE MOVE TO THE MULTI-FAMILY PIECE. RIGHT. BECAUSE NOW IT'S STRAIGHT CONDOMINIUMS. RIGHT? OKAY. AND THE OTHER THING I DIDN'T SEE YOU MENTIONED WAS THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PARKLAND DEDICATION OR AND ARE THEY THINKING THAT THE GREEN SPACE IS GOING TO COVER THAT, OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PARKS BOARD AND DO THEIR THING. SO IF IT TURNS INTO A RESIDENTIAL USE, THEN PARKLAND REQUIREMENTS ARE REQUIRED. AND SO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO PRESENT A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THAT STANDARD PROCESS THROUGH THE PARKS BOARD, BACK BEFORE THIS BODY, AND THEN TO CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE CLEAR WHAT THIS IS? THEY BUILT IT KNOWING THAT THERE WERE THERE WAS AN AGE RESTRICTION, AM I CORRECT? YES. OKAY. THEY THEY INTENDED TO HAVE AN AGE RESTRICTED THING THERE. IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME OBVIOUSLY THIS BUILDING IF IT ONLY HOUSES 34 UNITS AND THEY ORIGINALLY WERE THINKING 222. IT WASN'T BUILT TO THAT STANDARD. AND AGAIN, TO CLARIFY, THERE'S A SITE PLAN THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE CURRENT PD. SO THERE WAS A DIFFERENT LAND PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH A ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY WHERE THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CARVED OUT AS BASICALLY A SEPARATE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED FOR A SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING BUILDING SOLELY FOR THAT PURPOSE. SO THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING WAS NOT DEVELOPED UNDER THOSE REGULATIONS. THIS BUILDING WAS DEVELOPED UNDER THE LC3 REGULATIONS. OKAY. SO EFFECTIVELY THAT 30, 34 APARTMENTS, CONDOMINIUMS NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SELL THEM. THAT BEING THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE OKAY. SO WHEN YOU SAID THAT THINGS NEED TO BE REPLACED FROM THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER, I MEAN, THE PICTURES THAT WERE PRESENTED, THERE'S NOT A PLANT OR A TREE ANYWHERE IN ANY OF THE PICTURES. AND ALL THE BUILDINGS. YEAH. SO WHERE DOES THAT FALL IN? BECAUSE THERE'S YOU'RE BASICALLY ASKING FOR. A DIFFERENT PLAN TO BE APPROVED. SO START OVER. NO NOT NO NOT NECESSARILY. IT WOULD BE. SO THERE BY LC3 STANDARDS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER GREEN SPACE ALONG COLONIAL LAKES. SO THE WIDTH OF THAT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED IN ADDITION TO THE SCREENING THAT'S REQUIRED. SO WHERE THERE'S NO SHRUBS OR WHERE THERE'S GAPS IN SHRUBS, WHERE THERE'S NO TREES ON THAT PROPERTY, NOT THE NOT THE TREES THAT ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, TREES ON THAT PROPERTY. THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL THAT, THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE RECONSTRUCTED. I MEAN, BASICALLY MAKING IT INTO LIVABLE UNITS THAT THEY WOULD BE BUILDING THE PICTURE THAT I HAVE THIS RIGHT, BUILDING OUT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? NO. MAY HAVE SOME OF THE OKAY, FOLKS. WELL, THE DOES THE [02:00:01] APPLICANT WANT TO MAKE MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS. YES. PLEASE COME FORWARD PLEASE. OKAY. THE PICTURE THAT WE SAW IN HER REPORT. GOOD EVENING. HI, MY NAME IS EDMUND LEE. I'M THIS IS MY FATHER, MY MOTHER, FRANK AND SHERRY LEE. WE ARE THEY ARE THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS OF TANK CITY PLAZA. IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU ALL. GOOD. YEAH. MY NAME IS FRANK LEE. I'M THE DEVELOPER FOR THE WHOLE WHOLE COMPLEX, INCLUDING THE RETAILS ON THE FIRST FLOOR. THIS IS ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS WHICH HAS THREE STORIES, AND WE GET OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. SO THE RETAIL, IT IS A RETAIL CONDOMINIUM, RETAIL CONDO. SO. A LOT OF OWN OWNER THERE. THEY MOVE IN ON THE FIRST FLOOR. SO WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT. ACTUALLY THE BUILD OUT PERMIT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL CONDOMINIUM. THE PLAN HAS SUBMITTED A CITY. YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID TWO YEARS AGO, WE JUST ANXIOUSLY WAIT TO GET OUR PERMIT. THEN WE CAN BUILD OUT THE BEAUTY WE CONSIDER AS A BUILDING. YOU KNOW, ALL THE ELECTRICITIES WATER SPRINKLER SYSTEM IS ALL IN PLACE ALREADY, SO WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW. SAY I ASSUME CITY GAVE US THE PERMIT. WE JUST PUT UP THE DEMISING WALL AND THE BUILD OUT TO A PRETTY MUCH HIGHER STANDARDS. IT'S NOT LIKE THE REGULAR CONDOMINIUM. SO YOU CAN SEE THE QUALITY OF OUR BUILDING. YOU CAN TELL WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A VERY QUALIFIED CONDOMINIUM. ALSO, OUR ARCHITECT, HE HAD HE HAS AN ACCIDENT ON THE WAY FROM AUSTIN BACK TO HOUSTON YESTERDAY. SO HE CANNOT PRESENT. BUT I WILL TRY MY BEST TO ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION WITH THESE? BEING WITH THESE, BEING INDIVIDUALLY OWNED, WHAT IS THE PLAN TO MAINTAIN THE CONTINUITY OF THE PROPERTY IF YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS? OKAY, WE'LL HAVE AN HOA TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE ISSUES. YEAH OKAY. NOW THE HOA ACTUALLY IS ALREADY FORMED FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAVE THE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE OTHER BUILDINGS. SO THIS HOA WILL ALSO COVER THAT. THE, THE INDEPENDENT CONDOMINIUM. IF I MAY. SO MY NAME IS BILL BOBRICK. I'M THE ARCHITECT. COULDN'T BE HERE OKAY. I'M A FRIEND OF THE LEASE. AS FAR AS THE HOA GOES. THEY ACTUALLY HIRED A LAW FIRM TO DRAW UP EXTREMELY STRICT COVENANTS. HE NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED MICROPHONE. YEAH, TO DRAW UP EXTREMELY STRICT COVENANTS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT OWNER OCCUPANTS FROM RENTING THEM OUT OR SUBLEASING OR AIRBNB OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. AND THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN DRAFTED AND SUBMITTED AND IS PART OF THE PROJECT. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU AND I ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVE A LOFT AND HEARING LOSS DOWNTOWN, HOW ARE YOU ALL GOING TO REINFORCE THAT AND CAN THAT BE ENFORCED. BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING 34 UNITS, WHICH IS NOT A LARGE AMOUNT, BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN GO IN IN 34 UNITS THAT CAN BE MISMANAGED. SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO [02:05:05] UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE REAL VISION FOR THIS PROPERTY AND WHAT'S THE TRUE PLAN. ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT HOW IT WILL BE ENFORCED? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I THINK IT'S ENFORCED AS ANY HOA AGREEMENT OR ANY CONDOMINIUM AGREEMENT THAT YOU'RE PROHIBITED FROM DOING THAT. THEN THAT'S A CONDITION OF PURCHASE. SO THE HIGHER YOU ARE MENTIONING IS THAT ONLY FOR THIS CONDOMINIUM OR IS FOR THE ENTIRE COMPLEX CONDOMINIUMS. I'M SORRY. CONDOMINIUM. CONDOMINIUMS. SORRY. OKAY. AND WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE PROSPECTIVE BUYERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY AS WELL. SO THAT YOU COULD SEE WHAT KIND OF FOLKS WOULD BE PURCHASING AND LIVING THERE. AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. OKAY. WELL, SO THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THEY CAN DO. SO I MAKE IT JUST A COUPLE CLOSING REMARKS. SURE. SO FIRST OF ALL, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STAFF WENT THROUGH THIS PROJECT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. SECONDLY. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED FOR HUNDREDS OF UNITS. AND SO 34 AS FAR AS AN IMPACT GOES ON THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW I THINK YOU'VE RECEIVED MAYBE TWO LETTERS IN OPPOSITION, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT THE PROJECT, BUT THE FACT THAT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY CONCERN IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THE OTHER THING IS THAT IT ALSO, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF POINTING OUT IT COMPORTS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL WITH RETAIL. ONE THING I FOUND INTERESTING IS WHEN PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC. MR. LEE WAS TELLING ME TODAY AND I OBSERVED IT FIRSTHAND THAT. LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF CARS CUT THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY AS THEIR OWN PERSONAL SHORTCUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY. BUT THE LEE'S HAVE NEVER PUT UP SIGNAGE OR TRIED TO RESTRICT THOSE NEIGHBORS DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY TRY TO FIT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS IN MISSOURI CITY. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. WE DO HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD. CAN YOU ETC. AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. I DON'T THINK THEY UNDERSTOOD. WHAT CAN YOU EAT, SETH? CAN YOU EAT? SETH. LAST NAME IS I T S I T MAYBE. YOU READ YOUR ADDRESS. THE ADDRESS IS TWO BRADFIELD COURT. SORRY. OH, KAREN. SHIP. OH, KAREN. ACTUALLY WE HAVE. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. YEAH. TEN CITIES. ARE SUPPORTED HERE. WANTS TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. BUT DURING THE SUMMER, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. THE ENGLISH IS NOT THAT CLEAR. BUT, KAREN, SAY SOMETHING. THANK YOU. OKAY. YES. IDEALLY, IF IF IF SHE WANTS TO. YOU KNOW, MAKE MAKE HER STATEMENT AND THEN EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE SPEAKING ON THAT SAME STATEMENT, WE COULD JUST HAVE YOU RAISE YOUR HAND SO WE CAN GET A HEAD COUNT. WOULD THAT BE OKAY? OKAY. SURE. SORRY. I KNOW THE LAST NAME IS CHALLENGE. H IS SILENT. MY SPELLING OF LAST NAME IS H C H. BUT IT'S ACTUALLY SAY SHAY. THAT'S. IT WAS CHALLENGING. KAREN SHAY IS MY NAME. I DON'T LIVE IN MISSOURI CITY, BUT I COME TO MISSOURI CITY ALL THE TIME BECAUSE CITY IS VERY GREAT AND I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WITH MY SAME BACKGROUND. SO WE COME AND WE ENJOY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AFTER TEN CITIES DEVELOPED, WE CAN'T EVEN COME HERE EVEN MORE OFTEN BECAUSE I KNOW GOOD RESTAURANTS AND GOOD PLACES I CAN COME AND [02:10:02] ENJOY. SO AND THEN AFTER I LEARNED ABOUT THIS CONDOMINIUM, I DON'T. IS THAT HOW YOU CALL IT? IT'S GOING TO BE HOPEFULLY GET APPROVED AND AND BE BUILT. I GOT VERY EXCITED TOO, BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE IN THIS AREA, BUT I DON'T MIND TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO AND STAY AT NIGHT. SO IF IT'S BECOMING AVAILABLE, I DEFINITELY WILL CONSIDER IT. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I WILL CONSIDER IT IF IT BECOMES AVAILABLE TO ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO SO ARE THERE OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE ALSO CONSIDERING THAT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO RAISE. SAW IT. ALL RIGHT I GOT THEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SURE. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE NAMES OF THOSE THAT MAYBE. YEAH, LET'S LET'S GO DOWN THE LIST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T MISS ANYBODY. BUT IF YOU NAME SOMEBODY WHO RAISED THEIR HAND AND UNLESS THEY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD, LET'S LET'S CONTINUE THROUGH THE LIST. OKAY. SO IS IT CC CC YOUNG. SPEAKING TO CC YOUNG. SO I JUST LIVED IN THAT AREA FOR LIKE THREE YEARS. AND I REALLY ENJOY YOUR ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD OKAY. THE ADDRESS IS 2719 CHRIS CREEK TERRACE DRIVE, MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS. SO I LIVED IN THAT AREA FOR LIKE THREE YEARS, AND I REALLY ENJOYED THE ENVIRONMENT. AND BASICALLY I AGREE WITH THE LADY. WE ALWAYS GO TO TOWN CITY AND WE EAT THERE ALL THE TIME. IT IS THE CENTRAL LOCATION TO EVERYWHERE. ONLY FIVE MINUTES DRIVE TO SUGARLAND TOWN CENTER AND IT IS VERY CONVENIENT. AND WE ALSO LIKE WE ENJOY THE ENVIRONMENT. EVERYBODY IS FRIENDLY AND IT'S THE TRAFFIC IS GOOD. IT ONLY TAKE US LIKE TEN MINUTES TO GO EVERYWHERE IN SUGARLAND. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT IS FRANK LEE. FRANK LU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS FRANK LU. I'M THE PLAN THAT I TO THE THE NEW PLACE AT THE 4884899 MR. CITY HIGHWAY SIX. MR. CITY. YEAH. THE THE RECENTLY THE. I KNOW YOU WORK HARD FOR THIS THE APPROVEMENT THE THIS PLACE IS VERY NICE SHOPPING CENTER AND WE NEED A MORE DEVELOPED AND MORE THE PEOPLE COME IN AND SUPPORT THE MR. CITY KEEP THE GROWING I, I WISH ALL YOU CAN APPROVE THIS PLAN AND SEE THE THIS THE PLAZA. KEEP GOING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE PETER SHIH. IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND NAME FOR THE RECORD. HELLO, EVERYONE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. MY NAME IS PETER. SHE LAST NAME IS HARD TO PRONOUNCE AS WELL. I'M A BUSINESS OWNER AT THE PLAZA. THE GUN SHOP THERE. PROBABLY SOME OF YOU VISIT. IT IS. I'M THE OWNER OF THE GUN SHOP. WE DO HAVE OUR MANAGER. EXACTLY. ASK FRANK WHEN THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE SO HE CAN PURCHASE ONE. BECAUSE HE WILL SAVE ONE HOUR AND 35 MINUTES EVERY DAY FOR THE TRAVELING TIME TO GO TO WORK. ALSO, THE ALARM IN THE GUN SHOP DIRECTLY LINKED TO HIS PHONE. IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, HE CAN SHOWED UP EVEN FASTER THAN THE POLICE OFFICER. BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY FAST. THE LAST TIME SOMETHING HAPPENED, THEY SHOWED UP IN FIVE MINUTES AND 30S, BUT HE CAN PROBABLY SHOWED UP WITHIN A MINUTE. HE ALSO HAVE THE SECURITY LEVEL THREE SECURITY GUARD LESSON, SO HE'S FULLY ARMED AND LEGITIMATELY HE CAN TAKING CARE OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT AND WAITING FOR THE POLICE TO SETTLE DOWN THE SITUATION. THAT'S ONE. AND ALSO TWO OF MY EMPLOYEES ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LONG DISTANCE DRIVE TO GO TO WORK. THEY WERE THINKING OF SOMEHOW RENT OR BUY ONE AS WELL. [02:15:06] SO THIS IS IN A HIGH DEMAND, AT LEAST FROM MY OPINION. ALSO, IF WE CAN HAVE THIS OPEN, THOSE EMPLOYEES CAN CAN BE THERE LIKE THAT. THEY CAN OPEN ABOUT AN HOUR EARLIER AND AN HOUR LATE, WHICH MEANS WE CAN HAVE MORE SALES, OF COURSE, BRING MORE TAXES PAID TO THE CITY. ALSO, WE WITH OUR PEOPLE WALKING AROUND THERE ARMED, WE'LL BRING THE SAFETY LEVEL A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, AS I HOPE SO. THAT'S WHY I REALLY STRONG SUPPORT THIS PROJECT TO BE SETTLED AND STARTED. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE HONG KONG FOOD COURT. HONG KONG FOOD COURT. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JEN. SO I'M THE MANAGER OF THE HONG KONG FOOD COURT OF HIGHWAY 640. 899 DOWNTOWN CITY. I LIVE NEARBY THE CITY. THE APARTMENT. I'M THE SENIOR THERE HAVE A NEW APARTMENT I. NEW HOUSE I WILL. HAVE A GOOD CHOICE TO CHOOSE FOR THIS ONE. THEREFORE I WANT TO I. I I I WILL RECOMMEND THE. THIS PROPOSED. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT MIMI KWAN. MIMI KWAN. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. HI. MY NAME IS KWAN AND I LIVE WITHIN FIVE MINUTES DRIVE TIME FROM THE PLAZA AND A WALKING DISTANCE OF LESS THAN 15 MINUTES. SO AS A NEIGHBOR, I THINK A RESIDENTIAL CONDO WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE THAN A PARTIAL CONDO OFFICE PROJECT, WHICH THEY ALREADY HAVE. AND I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR THE CITY ALSO BECAUSE THERE IS HOLIDAY IN AND HAMPTON IN THERE ALREADY TWO HOTELS THERE. SO I THINK THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE PLUS AIRBNB, KNOWINGLY OR NOT KNOWINGLY, THERE MAY BE SOME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ANOTHER THING THAT I HAVE HERE IS. I HAVE LIVED IN FIRST COLONY FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS, AND I THINK IF WE CAN HAVE A MORE RESIDENTIAL NATURE, I THINK IT'S A BETTER THING. AND FROM A TECH STANDPOINT, EVEN THOUGH HOTEL BRINGS IN SUPPOSEDLY A LOT OF TAX REVENUES, BUT IN TODAY'S MARKET, TODAY'S ECONOMY, IF WE HAVE A GOOD. MANAGEMENT IN A CONDO PROJECT WITH GOOD CC AND ALL DEED RESTRICTIONS, THAT WOULD HELP US TO HAVE A MORE STABLE AND SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND ALSO, ONE MORE THING TO TAKE AWAY THE SENIOR AGE RESTRICTION IS THE BEST THING TO DO BECAUSE I WENT TO I'M 72 YEARS OLD, SO I THINK TO TAKE THAT OFF SO THE OLDER PEOPLE CAN MINGLE WITH THE YOUNGER POPULATION AND NO AGE DISCRIMINATION, SO MORE PEOPLE CAN APPLY FOR IT. INSTEAD OF LEAVING VACANT SPACES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, DIEGO WITH STATE FARM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HELLO, EVERYONE. DIEGO CERVANTES WITH STATE FARM. I'M ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST TENANTS AT CITY PLAZA. I'VE [02:20:01] BEEN IN BUSINESS 12 YEARS. ORIGINAL LOCATION SOUTH POST OAK AND BELTWAY EIGHT. 40 TO 45% OF MY CLIENTS ARE IN MISSOURI CITY, SO IT MADE SENSE TO MOVE MY BUSINESS TO MISSOURI CITY. I MET FRANK 2016 2017. HE SHOWED ME THE VISION FOR THE PLAZA AND THE FUTURE FOR ME. BASICALLY, IT'S MOVED TO MISSOURI CITY, SO I DID. I'VE BEEN SEVEN YEARS IN MISSOURI CITY AS A TENANT, AND PRETTY SOON I'M GOING TO BE A BUSINESS OWNER. I'M GOING TO BUY ONE OF MY OWN UNITS, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MOVE I MADE TO MISSOURI CITY. IT'S SO DIVERSIFIED AND IT'S A BLESSING TO BE HERE. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD MOVE FOR. THE CONDOMINIUMS. IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MYSELF AS A BUSINESS OWNER. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE SAM CHACKO, SAM JACOB, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. HELLO, MY NAME IS SAM CHACKO. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THIS CONDO. ADDRESS IS 306 HUCKLEBERRY STREET, MISSOURI CITY. SO THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH WITH CHANGING THE PLAN IS THE TRAFFIC. OKAY. THERE IS NO STOP SIGN ON THE OTHER SIDE, RIGHT? PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MUST STOP AND WAIT FOR THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE TO GO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. WE HAVE TO SIT THERE AND WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO COME, AND IT WON'T BE TOO LONG BEFORE WE HAVE A MAJOR ACCIDENT, BECAUSE CARS COMING FROM THERE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO STOP BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. IN THE ABSENCE OF A STOP SIGN, THEY CAN COME STRAIGHT OUT WHILE THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE TO WAIT AND TO GET AND TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COLONIAL LAKES. AND PLUS I'M HEARING SOME ALREADY, SOME SOME OTHERS MIGHT SPEAK ON IT. THERE ARE SOME CRIMES HAPPENING IN THAT. I THINK THERE'S SOME ISSUES OF TRAFFICKING OR SOMETHING I'M NOT SURE HEARD. THIS IS RUMORS, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE THE HARD FACTS, BUT I HEARD OF SOME TRAFFICKING GOING ON IN THAT. SO. CHAIN AGING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THE AGE RESTRICTIONS TO GO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT OTHER CRIMES TO TAKE PLACE IN THAT PLAZA. I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE PLAZA. THERE'S A LOT OF I MEAN, THERE'S GROWTH HAPPENING. THERE'S NEW BUSINESSES COMING IN. I'D RATHER IT BE A BUSINESS PLACE RATHER THAN SOME RESIDENTIAL PLACE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE SUBIN CHACKO, SUBIN. CHACKO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JACOB AND I LIVE IN OYSTER CREEK PLANTATION. THE REASON WHY I'M HERE IS I WANT TO PROTEST AGAINST THIS TANK CITY CONVERSION. REASON BEING WHY THEY HAD ALREADY BUILT OUT ALL THESE BUILDINGS. BUT THERE'S NOT THAT MANY OCCUPANTS TAKING OVER. ONE, TWO. THEY SAID THEY HAVE HOA, BUT THE KARMA BAR THAT'S OUTSIDE WITHIN TANK CITY PLAZA, THEY HAVE FOOD TRUCK THERE. THEY'RE PLAYING LOUD MUSIC. SO THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE LIVING RIGHT ACROSS THERE HAVING TO HEAR ALL THIS, TWO IF THEY'RE MAKING IT INTO A CONDO, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING LIKE TOWN CENTER IN SUGARLAND THAT HAS SO MANY AMENITIES. PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE THERE. IT HAS EVERYTHING GOING FOR IT. IF THEY'RE MAKING THIS INTO A CONDO THAT THEY'RE CLAIMING WITH HOA, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO PAN OUT. ONE HOW MANY PEOPLE IS IT GOING TO FIT? TWO WHAT KIND OF AMENITIES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? LIKE A ONE LITTLE ROOM, A GYM? THREE IF THEY DO SELL IT, WHAT KIND OF MONEY? WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME BY IT? I DON'T WANT BECAUSE I'M A YOUNG BUYER WITH YOUNG KIDS THAT ARE LIVING IN OYSTER CREEK PLANTATION, WITH OTHER OLDER ELDERLY PEOPLE LIVING THERE. WE WANT OUR PROPERTY VALUE TO GO UP, NOT GO DOWN BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, BAD PEOPLE COMING IN THERE OR THERE'S ALREADY LIKE, YOU KNOW, A CAR RUNNING INTO A GUN SHOP. THERE'S A BAR RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY BUILD UP, BUT THERE'S NOT THAT MANY TRAFFIC. I MEAN, ALL THE ALL THE STORES THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW, IT'S PRACTICALLY EMPTY. SOME THAT OPEN, CLOSED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE STILL OPEN. THAT'S ABOUT IT. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE AS A YOUNG BUYER WHO BOUGHT A FIRST HOME FOR MY HOME VALUE TO GO DOWN BECAUSE THIS IS MY PRIMARY INVESTMENT, THIS IS MY PRIMARY HOUSE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S HEARING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PLAYING LOUD MUSIC AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE MY PROPERTY VALUE IS GOING DOWN. MY MAIN INVESTMENT IS GOING DOWN. IT'S AN INVESTMENT FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO [02:25:04] LIKE THE TANK CITY'S INVESTMENT FOR OTHER PEOPLE, TOO, I GET THAT, BUT THAT'S A SECONDARY INCOME FOR THEM. THIS IS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CONSISTS OF SMALL, CLOSE KNIT PEOPLE, AND I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN ME AND HEAR OUT THE THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I UNDERSTAND THEY BUILT THIS OUT. I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT TO SELL IT. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. BUT KEEPING IT 55 IS THE BEST THING SIMPLY BECAUSE IF THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER HOUSES BEING BUILT LIKE ON MURPHY, ON ON FURTHER DOWN ON HIGHWAY SIX, THERE'S SO MANY TOWNHOMES, THERE ARE SO MANY DUPLEX LOOKING HOUSES, PATIO LOOKING HOUSES. WHY CHANGE THIS? WHY CAN'T THEY JUST KEEP IT 5 TO 5 WHAT THEY WERE APPROVED FOR? INSTEAD OF GOING BACK AND FORTH AND CHANGING AND CHANGING IT, THAT SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. THAT'S LIKE MAKING THE CITY GO IN CIRCLE, WASTING CITY'S TIME AND CITY INVESTED MONEY INTO THE MARKET STUDY THAT THEY DID. SO WHAT ABOUT THAT MONEY THAT'S GOING TO GO TO WASTE FOR THE 55 AND SENIOR LIVING? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT, ROBERT ROBERT LUST. ROBERT LUST. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ROBERT. LET'S LIVE AT 2910 BLUEGRASS COURT, ACROSS THE STREET IN OYSTER CREEK PLANTATIONS. I TOO AM HERE TO PROTEST. I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND THE COMMISSION'S QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, BECAUSE YOU WERE SPOT ON ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOA AND HOW IS IT GOING TO BE ENFORCED AND THE ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIVE IN A CONDO. THE ISSUE WITH BED, BED AND BREAKFAST, AIRBNB, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT? YOU JUST HEARD FROM A FELLOW CITIZEN OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE NIGHTCLUB AND NOT ENFORCING THAT, AND ALSO HAVING A FOOD TRUCK THERE? I ALSO WENT THROUGH THE FORT, FORT BEND COUNTY DISTRICT COURT, AND IT FOUND THAT THERE HAD BEEN PAST RESIDENT OR PAST APPLICANTS THAT HAVE TRIED TO BUY PROPERTY FROM THIS THAT ARE SUING THEM FOR MISREPRESENTATION. SO THERE'S A WHOLE QUESTION HERE IN MY MIND OF WHAT THEY TOLD YOU ABOUT HOW THAT HOA WILL BE ENFORCING THESE CONCERNS. IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT GOOD AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THE LEVEL OF TRUST THAT THIS RESIDENTIAL PIECE WILL NOT TURN INTO A A MESS. AND THEY HAVE NOT DEMONSTRATED ANY FAITH IN THEIR PLANS THAT THEY HAVE PUT FORTH AND DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS. SO YOUR QUESTIONS WERE SPOT ON. THE OTHER PART OF THE INFORMATION, I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE COPIES OF IT, BUT I WENT INTO THE PARK. THE PARK BOARD THAT THEY PRESENTED INFORMATION BACK IN MARCH. EIGHT MONTHS AGO. THEY PROVIDED A LETTER HERE THAT THAT STATED WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE PARK DEDICATION. THEY TALKED ABOUT TO TO A THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED RECREATION AREA WILL BE DEVELOPED TO SERVE THE SPACE FOR RESIDENTS. THE PROPOSED AMENITIES INCLUDE DESIGNATED PICNIC AREAS, SHADE SEATING AREAS WITH TREES, A CENTRAL FOUNTAIN ALL DESIGNED TO FOSTER A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND TRANQUILITY. RETREAT. THEY PROVIDED A PLAQUE SHOWING THAT NINE MONTHS LATER, A PHOTO FROM TODAY THAT'S IN YOUR. THIS IS THE PARKLAND. I DON'T FIND TREES. I DON'T FIND PARK BENCHES. I JUST FIND A BUNCH OF CONCRETE WITH A A POND, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THIS A FOUNTAIN THAT DOESN'T FOUNTAIN. SO I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE INTEGRITY AND WHERE THIS IS HEADED, AND I, I TRUST THAT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT HOME VALUES. IT IS ABOUT MISSOURI CITY'S TAX BASIS. IF OUR HOME VALUES START DEPRECIATING, BECAUSE IT WILL ALSO IMPACT THE CITY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. NEXT WE HAVE LARRY BRIGGS, LARRY BRIGGS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS LARRY BRIGGS. I'VE LIVED AT 3103 PECAN WOOD DRIVE IN OYSTER CREEK PLANTATION FOR 29 YEARS. THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO ADDRESS THIS PROPOSAL. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, I WANT TO THANK I WANT TANG CITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IT IS IMPORTANT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS THE LARGEST ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. IT DOMINATES OUR ENTRANCE. I'VE NOT ENTIRELY MADE UP MY MIND YET ON THIS, DUE TO AN ALMOST COMPLETE LACK OF INFORMATION BEFORE THIS MEETING, IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO ABSORB WHAT'S TRANSPIRED TODAY. HOWEVER, I HAVE CONCERNS. FIRST, THAT LACK OF INFORMATION IS CONCERNING [02:30:06] WHEN ZONING WAS MODIFIED TO ALLOW SENIOR LIVING, THE DEVELOPERS PROACTIVELY SET UP MEETINGS TO PRESENT THEIR PLAN AND ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS. THEY SHOWED INTEREST IN WORKING WITH US TO ALLEVIATE THEIR CONCERNS AND MODIFIED SOME DETAILS. THIS PROVIDED CONFIDENCE THAT THE IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE WORTHWHILE. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S BEEN NO SUCH ATTEMPT TO DATE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT, AT THE TIME OF THE APPROVAL FOR SENIOR LIVING, WE WERE ASSURED THERE WOULD BE NO FUTURE MODIFICATIONS ALLOWING APARTMENTS OR CONDOS WITHOUT SUCH AN AGE RESTRICTION. CLEARLY, THAT ASSURANCE IS IN QUESTION NOW. MORE GENERALLY, ONE OF MY REASONS FOR CONCERN IS THE MANNER IN WHICH CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT OCCURRED. IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE INCREMENTAL, WITH ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS ERECTED AS EACH PHASE WAS OCCUPIED, AND THAT WELL-KNOWN NATIONAL BRANDS WERE LINED UP TO FILL THE SPACE. INSTEAD, THE ENTIRE PROJECT WAS BUILT AT ONCE, AND THOSE NATIONAL BRANDS FAILED TO MATERIALIZE. LARGE PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT HAVE REMAINED EMPTY FOR A CONSIDERABLE TIME, CAUSING THE SPECTER OF THE PREVIOUS TANG CITY DEBACLE TO BECOME INCREASING FEAR. THE FACT THAT DEVELOPERS WERE SUED BY INVESTORS ALLEGING BREACH OF CONTRACT AND FRAUD OVER SUCH ISSUES DOES NOT INCREASE CONFIDENCE. WITHOUT CONSIDERABLY MORE DETAILS THAN PROVIDED TO DATE. ONLY IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO HAVE WE SEEN A TREND OF BUSINESS OPENINGS AT A SLIGHTLY FASTER PACE. EVEN NOW, THERE IS MORE SIGNAGE THAN ACTUAL OCCUPANCY. IT IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAT THE BUSINESS OCCUPATION CONTINUE AT LOWER LEVELS THAN WHAT HAPPENS AT THE UPPER LEVELS. THE NATURE AND SUCCESS OF THESE BUSINESSES WILL AFFECT THE QUALITY AND SUCCESS OF ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AGE RESTRICTED OR NOT FAR MORE THAN RESIDENTIAL, COULD ENHANCE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. AS ONLY ONE EXAMPLE, THERE IS A LOW RATIO OF AVAILABLE PARKING TO THE NUMBER OF POTENTIAL BUSINESSES AND RESIDENCES. THE LAST THING WE WANT IS POTENTIAL BUSINESS OCCUPATION TO BE DISCOURAGED BY INSUFFICIENT PARKING. UNQUESTIONABLY, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES PER UNIT IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER FOR GENERAL CONDOMINIUMS, LIKELY TWO OR MORE PROFOUNDLY THAN IN SENIOR LIVING, WITH ONE OR EVEN NONE BEING THE NORM. I REMEMBER A CITY MARKETING STUDY FOUND GENERAL RESIDENTIAL HAD A LOW PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS HERE, AND THAT A SENIOR FACILITY WAS MORE LIKELY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. I'M INCLINED TO THINK ANY SUCH CHANGE SHOULD WAIT, AND REQUIRE FAR MORE PLANNING THAN WE'VE SEEN TO DATE WITH CITY. IF IT HAPPENS AT ALL, PLEASE DON'T MAKE CHANGES. IF IT IS FINALLY, FINALLY BEGINNING TO WORK. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE LYNN BRIGGS, LYNN BRIGGS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS LYNN BRIGGS AND SURPRISE, MY ADDRESS IS ALSO 3103 PECAN WOOD IN OYSTER CREEK PLANTATION. THE PEOPLE WHO'VE SPOKEN BEFORE ME HAVE ADDRESSED A NUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD INTENDED TO SAY, BUT I WAS REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU HAD ALREADY ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OF RESTRICTING IT AGAINST AIRBNBS, BECAUSE. I HEARD THEM SAY THAT THEY WOULD BE OWNER OCCUPIED. I'M NOT SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ENSURE I HOW THE HOA WOULD ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT SUBLETTING. I WOULD REALLY HATE TO SEE HATE TO SEE IT BECOME SHORT TERM RENTALS OR AIRBNBS, BUT I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THE HOA WOULD WORK FOR BOTH BUSINESSES AND RESIDENCES, SO I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY'RE EXPECTING TO OCCUPY THESE UNITS, YOU KNOW, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS, TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM, FIVE BEDROOM? SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS WE HAVE SO VERY LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE HERE. I'M REALLY WOULD BE CURIOUS AS TO WHO THEY'RE GOING TO MARKET THESE TO, BECAUSE THIS BUILDING IS IS ALREADY BUILT OUT. IT DOES NOT HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM MOST CONDOMINIUMS OR APARTMENT BUILDINGS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S NO SWIMMING POOL, THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE. THERE'S NO NO DOG PARK. THERE'S THERE'S NO SPECTACULAR NATURAL VIEW TO [02:35:01] ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT BE LOOKING FOR THOSE OTHER AMENITIES. I MEAN, IT'S BASICALLY A PARKING LOT ON ONE SIDE AND A DAYCARE CENTER ON THE OTHER. SO. I JUST DON'T SEE WHAT THE MARKETING CAMPAIGN WOULD BE. AND I, I THINK THAT PARKING WOULD STILL BE AN ISSUE. I, I HEARD ABOUT NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND. THERE'S A LOT ABOUT THIS PROCESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GARAGES OR THE CARPORTS OR THINGS ARE. BUT IF YOU GO BACK BEHIND THE BUILDING, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY WOULD PUT THOSE PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH THE GROUND FLOOR BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE RIGHT AGAINST THEIR BACK DOORS, WHICH YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD NEED FOR LOADING DOCKS OR WOULD NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEE PARKING. ASSUMING THAT THE CUSTOMERS WOULD THEN TAKE OVER PARKING SPACES IN THE FRONT. SO, YOU KNOW, I STILL THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE. AND THAT'S MOST OF WHAT I WANT TO SAY. I SEE MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE ABBY, MATTHEW, ABBY, MATTHEW, MATTHEW. OH, SORRY. THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ABBY. MATTHEW. I'VE BEEN LIVING WITH OYSTER PLANTATION FOR THE LAST 29 YEARS. AND WE WERE WE HAD SEVERAL PLANS FOR THAT PROPERTY WITH LOWE'S COMING, AND WE FOUND THAT IS NOT FEASIBLE AND THAT IS GONE AWAY. AND WE SAW THE TANKS COMING, AND WE THOUGHT A LOT OF BUSINESSES COMING, BUT WE SAW THEY COME TO YOU AND SUBMITTED YOU SOME PLANS, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO THE RIGHT MARKET STUDY OR SOMETHING. AND THAT'S WHY THE RESULTED IN THIS. THIS BUILDING UNOCCUPIED FOR LONG, LONG TIME. NOW, THOSE PEOPLE WHO OWNED THAT THEY SOLD TO THE NEW TENANTS, NOW THEY'RE JOB IS TO CONVINCE YOU TO GET INTO THE CONDOMINIUM. WE DON'T KNOW. NEXT YEAR THEY MAY COME WITH SOMETHING ELSE. SO I'M AGAINST THIS AND THIS IS NOT FEASIBLE. WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. KARMA BAR IS THERE, GUN SHOP IS THERE AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC. FOOD TRUCK IS. SO THIS IS ADDING MORE TRAFFIC, MORE CONGESTION. AND THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE OUR HOME VALUE. WE'VE BEEN LIVING PEACEFULLY, LIVING THAT AREA. AND ROBIN, THE MAYOR WAS OUR REPRESENTATIVE. AND MR. ROBIN IS THE REPRESENTATIVE. THEY ALL KNOW OUR SUBDIVISION. WE BEEN CLOSE KNIT SUBDIVISION AND WE ARE AGAINST THIS. AND BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T PRESENTED ALL THE DETAILS TO YOU, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR, THEY MAY COME WITH A DIFFERENT PLANS. SO I'M AGAINST IT AND WE PROTEST AGAINST THIS NEW THEIR PLANS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT IS ANTHONY MORALES. GOOD EVENING. ANTHONY MORALES, 3115 KENWOOD DRIVE, MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS. AND I WANT TO WELCOME THE SUGAR LAND INVESTORS. I COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO OPPOSE THE REZONING. MOST IMPORTANTLY, I REPRESENT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OYSTER CREEK PLANTATION. IN THIS OPPOSITION. WE ARE GATHERED TODAY TO PETITION AGAINST THE REZONING OF THE AGE RESTRICTION. WE HAVE PROTEST LETTERS. WE HAVE TURNED IN OUR PETITION AS WELL. THIS OPPOSITION IS NOT ABOUT TRAFFIC. IT'S NOT ABOUT PARKING. IT'S NOT ABOUT FLOODING. ALL OF THOSE ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S ALSO NOT ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND USE. IT'S ABOUT THREE POINTS THAT I WANT TO MAKE TONIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, THE MARKET THAT THE PROPOSED USE FOR IS ALREADY SATURATED. WE HAVE ENOUGH SUPPLY OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. THIS COMMISSION KNOWS FIRSTHAND. YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED 186 DWELLINGS THAT INSPIRE PROJECT, 280 AT TERRITORY, 346 AND 100 AT LAKE VILLAGE. THAT'S 912 DWELLING UNITS COMING TO OUR CITY. SECOND, THE LACK OF A COHESIVE VISION AND NOT A DESTINATION FOR FAMILIES. TANK CITY WAS BUILT IN 2018, A SEVEN YEAR OLD DEVELOPMENT THAT LACKS COHESIVE VISION. THE 70 YEAR OLD TRACK RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. THERE ARE FOUR T-BARS GONG CHOW THAT'S CHANGED SEVERAL TIMES. FILL IT UP T T B ME, WHICH IS THE SECOND OWNER, AND GREEN ROUTE TREE WHICH CLOSED, BUT NOW IT'S FRESNO T [02:40:05] THEN THERE'S CONFLICTING ENVIRONMENT. THERE'S A GUNSHOT NEAR A BAR, A BAR NEAR A DAYCARE. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE. TWO MASSAGE PLACES AND ONE WHICH GOT CAUGHT TRAFFICKING. THEN THERE'S A CLAW GIFT STORE, WHICH IF YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT CLAW GIFTS CAN RISK TO GAMBLING. AND THERE'S A REALLY GOOD ONE. A RESTAURANT OPENED AND FAILED WITHIN SIX MONTHS. THAT RESTAURANT WAS OWNED BY ONE OF THE OWNERS. IF SHE CAN'T WIN IN HER OWN SHOPPING CENTER, WHO CAN? THIRDLY, THE PD ALREADY IS SET FOR SENIOR LIVING. AND DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU GUYS PAID FOR MARKET STUDY? AS A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, WE DID A LOT TO HELP THEM OUT, TO GUIDE THEM. I PERSONALLY TOOK TWO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS TO THEM, TWO FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS, TWO CITY MANAGERS, THE GENERAL MANAGER FROM HOLIDAY INN AND YES, YOUR TAX DOLLARS PAID FOR A STUDY FOR THEM. THE MARKET STUDY HAD A LAND USE OPPORTUNITY MATRIX, AND IN THAT MATRIX IT SAID THAT SENIOR LIVING IS A HIGH SUCCESS. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS LOW TO MEDIUM, SO BUILD IT. WE SUPPORT SENIOR LIVING, BUILD IT THE WAY IT'S ZONED, BUILD IT. ACCORDING TO THE MARKET STUDY. QUIT THROWING STUFF ON THE WALL, HOPE IT STICKS. AND IF IF IT'S NOT A PLAN, DON'T DO IT. IT'S ENOUGH. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. ONCE AGAIN, YOU SAW NO RENDERINGS OF WHAT THOSE ROOMS LOOK LIKE. IT WAS JUST PIE IN THE SKY. HERE YOU GO. WE'RE GOING TO INVEST YOUR LAND MONEY IN OUR PROPERTIES. SO CREATE A SAFE SPACE FOR BETTER COMMUNITY, A FAMILY DESTINATION THEME. AND EVERYBODY CAN GO THERE AND SHOP, WORK AND PLAY. FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. OUR PROPERTY VALUES LARGELY DEPEND ON THEIR SUCCESS. I'M OVER BUILD IT RIGHT AND WE SUPPORT SENIOR LIVING. THANK YOU. NEXT, NEXT WE HAVE TAMMY BRADLEY. TAMMY BRADLEY. GOOD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD I WILL I'M GOING TO HAND THIS OUT. HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M TAMMY BRADLEY I LIVE AT 4310 WHIPPOORWILL CIRCLE AND I'M IN OYSTER CREEK PLANTATION RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE TANG CITY PLAZA. I WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT ANTHONY SAID REGARDING THE TRAFFICKING, THE MASSAGE PARLOR THAT WAS BUSTED FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING LAST YEAR. MY SON WENT TO PHYSICAL THERAPY SEVERAL DAYS A WEEK, AND WE WALKED PAST THE WAY. FOOT. RELAX. I'M A MASSAGE CUSTOMER AT ACTUALLY A REPUTABLE MASSAGE PARLOR OR MASSAGE FACILITY BUSINESS IN MISSOURI CITY. IF YOU WALK PAST THE WAY FOOT RELAX BUSINESS, IT IS COMPLETELY BLACKED OUT. THE BUSINESS WINDOWS ARE COMPLETELY DARK AND EVERY TIME WE WALKED BY OUT OF CURIOSITY, I WOULD PULL ON THE DOOR HANDLE BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IT SAYS THAT THE DOOR NEEDS TO REMAIN UNLOCKED DURING BUSINESS HOURS, IT WAS NOT. IT WAS NOT REPEATEDLY THERE. BUSINESS HOURS ARE UNTIL 10:30 P.M. WHICH IS VERY INTERESTING FOR A VERY LEGITIMATE MASSAGE PARLOR TO HAVE HOURS UNTIL 10:30 P.M. MAYBE THAT'S A RED FLAG. I ALSO SAW THAT THERE WERE MEN WAITING OUTSIDE REPEATEDLY. MORE MEN THAN I'VE EVER SEEN AT MY NICELY VERY REPUTABLE MASSAGE PLACE. THEY WOULD BE ON THEIR PHONES, AND AS SOON AS THEY COULD MAKE CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY, THE DOOR WOULD BE UNLOCKED. THEY WOULD BE USHERED INSIDE, THE DOOR WOULD BE CLOSED, AND THE DOOR WOULD BE LOCKED. AGAIN, THAT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A REPUTABLE BUSINESS TO ME, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN'T POLICE THIS WITHIN THEIR EXISTING BUSINESSES, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO THIS WITH AN HOA? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO CONTROL THIS AND AND HAVE SOMETHING STRONG IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT PEOPLE ARE AND ARE NOT DOING? SO THIS WEEK I DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH FOR A WAY FOOT RELAX REVIEWS. JUST THAT, THAT PHRASE, AND IT SHOWED A VERY SKETCHY MIX OF RESULTS. SOME SOME ACTUALLY SEEMED THAT THEY WERE AN HONEST REVIEW, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS THE SAME REVIEW POPULATED ACROSS MULTIPLE SITES UNTIL I GOT TO A SITE SPECIFICALLY FOR ASIAN MASSAGE, WHICH I HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU. AND WITHIN THE LAST 30 DAYS, THERE'S A REVIEW THAT APPEARS ON A ON A PUBLIC SITE THAT SAYS AMY AT WAY FOOT. RELAX OFFERS A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS VERY UNIQUE. SHE OFFERS $55 FOR AGE AND $45 FOR. SHE HAS A SLENDER BUILD WITH A LONG FACE AND A SMALL C CUP. THAT IS NOT THE KIND OF BUSINESS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ACROSS FROM ME. AND IF THIS WAS A BUSINESS THAT WAS IN A PLAZA THAT I WAS MANAGING OR OWNING, I WOULD HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING UP REPEATEDLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS NEVER HAPPENING AGAIN. [02:45:05] AND THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN THE LAST 30 DAYS. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE REPUTABLE. WE WOULD LIKE A COHESIVE PLAN. WE WOULD LIKE BUSINESSES THAT WE CAN PATRONIZE. I WOULD LOVE TO GO OVER THERE AND HAVE IT BE FAMILY FRIENDLY. I WOULD PATRONIZE BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT THERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. LASTLY, WE HAVE ELVIA HERNANDEZ. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD EVENING. ELVIA HERNANDEZ, 3003 PECAN WOOD DRIVE. I LIVE EXACTLY ACROSS FROM THIS BUILDING. I'VE WATCHED IT GO UP. BUT FIRST OF ALL, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SAY PRINTED. MARCH 13TH, 2017. TANG CITY PLAZA, 200,000 SQUARE FOOT SHOPPING CENTER WILL OPEN IN MARCH. SO BETWEEN 2017 AND NOW, WE'RE JUST STARTING TO SEE A FEW BUSINESSES COME IN. NOT ALL OF THEM ARE SUCCESSFUL, BUT AT THIS POINT I'VE WATCHED IT BEING CONSTRUCTED. I'VE HAD ALL OF THEIR TRASH IN MY YARD. I CAN SIT IN MY TRUCK, I CAN SIT IN MY CAR, I CAN STAND OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE. I CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO ALL OF THE DRUNKEN PEOPLE WALKING OUT OF THE BAR, YELLING AND SCREAMING, LAUGHING. FOOD TRUCKS, BARBECUE TENT STANDS, EVERYTHING GOING ON STARTING AS EARLY AS WEDNESDAY, GOING THROUGH SUNDAY. SO YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY ACTIVELY MANAGING THIS PROPERTY PROPERTY PROPERLY. SO I REALLY QUESTION THEIR ABILITY TO MANAGE A QUOTE UNQUOTE HOA BUSINESS MANAGEMENT COMPANY, WHOMEVER, FOR THIS TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE AS CONDOS. EVERYTHING THAT I SEE, I SEE THE POLICE PARKED THERE. I ONCE AGAIN, A GUN SHOP ALSO MENTIONED THERE IS A DAYCARE VERY CLOSE TO THIS BAR. WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO MOVE IN? WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO STAY? BECAUSE IF I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AND CAN HEAR MUSIC, I CAN HEAR VEHICLES DRIVING BY. SEE, SO MUCH PARKING FOR THAT ONE BUSINESS, WHICH IS DOING WELL, THEN WHERE ARE ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THIS CONDOMINIUM GOING TO PARK? WHAT AM I GOING TO SEE WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING COVERED PARKING? THAT'S AN EYESORE FOR ME EVERY DAY NOW. I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS, BUT I GOT IT. I'VE GOT EVERYTHING. I CAN HEAR IT WITH MY DOOR SHUT, WITH MY TV ON. SO WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO MOVE INTO THAT IF I CAN HEAR IT ACROSS THE STREET? I DON'T WANT TO WALK MY DOG AT NIGHT ANYMORE. WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE? THE GUNSHOT. WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE ALL GLASS AND HAVE A GUNSHOT? LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES NEED TO BE IN THIS AREA AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, IT'S UP. WHO THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE THIS MANY SPACES TO LEASE OUT? AND NOW POSSIBLY SELL WHEN NOBODY IS ACTUALLY MARKETING THE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SPEND THE MONEY AND HAVE A BUSINESS THAT IS GOING TO SUCCEED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ALL SIGNED UP. OKAY. WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM TWO. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR 8C1. DISCUSSION. COMMENTS. I GOT A COMMENT. THEY BROUGHT TO LIGHT SOME THINGS THAT IN MY OPINION ARE VERY CONCERNING IN PARTICULAR. THIS NO DISRESPECT TOWARDS THE BUSINESS OR TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT AS A CITIZEN FIRST. WHEN THIS TYPE OF STUFF IS BROUGHT TO THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS, BUT THIS IS [02:50:05] VERY CONCERNING. JENNIFER, HOW MANY SENIOR LIVING PROPERTIES WE HAVE IN MISSOURI CITY SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? SENIOR LIVING OR 55 PLUS ASSISTED LIVING? YES. ASSISTED LIVING. APPROXIMATE THE NUMBER. DO A QUICK COUNT IN MY HEAD. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S FINE. WE HAVE WE HAVE THEM IN ALL PARTS OF THE CITY FOR PROBABLY ABOUT 6 OR 7, GIVE OR TAKE. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS. DO WE HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE LOUD NOISE FROM THE BAR NEARBY AND ALL THOSE THINGS? WE HAVE HEARD THE COMPLAINTS TONIGHT, AND THEN WE ALSO RECEIVED THOSE COMPLAINTS IN THE FORM OF THE WRITTEN PROTEST RECEIVED AS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CASE. I WASN'T DIRECTLY AWARE OF THAT BEFORE THIS PARTICULAR CASE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE OWNERS. IS THAT IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO ASK OR OR JUST FOR OUR DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT ALL RIGHT. AND. THE LETTER THEY RECEIVED. WELL, I KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BRING UP ALL THOSE PROTEST LETTERS. THERE WAS A LOT OF ITEMS OR THE HOMEOWNERS WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT, I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE HAVE IT IN THE PACKAGE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH THE OR MAYBE THE CITY. YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND TAKE IT BACK BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. BUT WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD AND IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD WHEN WE HAVE THE DM DESIGNS IN FEBRUARY 20TH THIS YEAR, SAID THAT THEY CAN HAVE ALL THESE AMENITIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING OVER THERE. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE FROM THE CITY, HAVE WE GONE OUT THERE AND DID AN INSPECTION? ARE WE FOLLOWING UP WITH OWNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWING WHAT WE HAVE APPROVED? SO POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE MENTION ON PARKLAND. PARKLAND IS TECHNICALLY NOT REQUIRED OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT EXISTS TODAY. PARKLAND WOULD BE ONLY REQUIRED IF A RESIDENTIAL USE IS ADDED, SO ANY PRESENTATIONS BEFORE THE PARKS BOARD HAS NOT COME BEFORE THIS BODY, NOR GONE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT AN OFFICIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION, SO IF THIS WERE TO BE AMENDED OR IF THE AGE RESTRICTED WERE TO BE DEVELOPED, THEN PARKLAND WOULD BECOME A REQUIREMENT. SO ANYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY IS DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH LC THREE. OKAY, JENNIFER. HAVE A QUESTION. THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP SOME LEGITIMATE AND VALID CONCERNS FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT OF VIEW. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO BE MOVED TO NEXT MONTH AND GIVE THE OWNERS AND THE RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, LOOK INTO SOME OF THESE OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO LIGHT TONIGHT. THE COMMISSION CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT MOTION. IT CANNOT MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AND FINAL REPORT. AND SO THE COMMISSION CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT MOTION. I WOULD SAY CONSIDER THAT THERE IS THE HOLIDAYS. SO WE'RE GOING INTO HOLIDAY SEASON. SO WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE READY WITH CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING BEFORE THE JANUARY PNC MEETING MIGHT BE TIGHT, BUT THE COMMISSION CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE END GAME IS THERE THOUGH, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO. MAYBE TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE, EVERYBODY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK YET, BUT. AND JENNIFER HELP ME, OKAY. I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE. THIS IS PRIMARILY ABOUT LIFTING THE AGE RESTRICTED THING AND ALLOWING 34 CONDOS TO BE DEVELOPED. OKAY. WE ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MANAGE THIS STUFF LIKE THAT? RIGHT. AND WE GOT ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INPUT AND FEEDBACK THAT THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS NOT WELL MANAGED, OR THERE'S SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING RIGHT. OKAY. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A BAR THERE, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN I HARDLY EVER SEEN [02:55:08] ANY TRAFFIC IN THAT WHOLE AREA. YOU KNOW, I'D DRIVE DOWN CALLING THE LAKES, I GUESS, OR WHATEVER. THAT BOULEVARD IS LIKE EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND I LOOK OVER THERE AND I SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE A COMPLETELY DESERTED COMPLEX. RIGHT. SO I DON'T GO THERE AT NIGHT, MAYBE. AND SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BAR AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT. SO. WE START TO HAVE THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, WELL, SHOULD WE SAY THAT IF THEY CAN'T MANAGE THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, THEN WE SHOULDN'T TRUST THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE CONDOS? OKAY, THAT COULD BE AN ARGUMENT. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE KIND OF WALKING A FINE LINE THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. SO AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY HERE. YOU KNOW, THIS PLACE I THINK ORIGINALLY WAS 2010, RIGHT, WHEN THIS ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN AND IT HAD 222 DWELLING UNITS. OKAY. AND IT HAD PARKING FOR THOSE AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SO YOU START DOING TWO, 22 TIMES TWO CARS PER THING. THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH PARKING THAT IS, OKAY? AND THEN YOU TAKE 34 UNITS. AND EVEN IF YOU HAD TEN CARS EACH, YOU'RE STILL BELOW THAT LIMIT, RIGHT. BUT IT'S IT'S IT'S CHANGED HANDS. THINGS HAVE CHANGED. THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T EVER BUILD OUT WHAT THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WAS GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO DO. OKAY. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW. HONESTLY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S EVEN ABOUT LIFTING THE 55 RESTRICTION BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BUILT ANYTHING TO LIFT THE RESTRICTION AGAINST. RIGHT? THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY ANYTHING THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE RETAIL STUFF, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, SO CHUCK THE OLD ORDINANCE OUT AND START OVER. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF ALMOST WHERE WE ARE. RIGHT. SO. THE VOTING TO TAKE THE RESTRICTION OFF, WE'RE VOTING FOR SOMETHING. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I WOULD BE VOTING FOR, EXCEPT THE PICTURE OF EMPTY BUILDINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BUILT OUT. THERE'S NO PARKING. THERE'S NOT A PLANT IN THE WHOLE PLACE. I'M SAYING YES TO SOMETHING. YEAH? WHAT? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. BESIDES REMOVAL OF THE RESTRICTION. THERE'S NO WAY IN GOOD CONSCIENCE YOU CAN VOTE FOR A DEVELOPER WHO HAS NO BACKGROUND IN IN RESIDENTIAL. FROM WHAT I SEE, HE GAVE, HE GOT APPROVAL TO TO BUILD ALL THOSE UNITS. DIDN'T BUILD ONE DIFFERENT OWNER. IT DOESN'T. BUT HE SAID HE WAS THE ORIGINAL GUY. HE'S THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER OF EVERYTHING. OKAY. CITY PLAZA. OKAY. SO HE'S THE GUY, BUT NOT THE SENIOR THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. OKAY. BUT HE'S PART OF THE PROMISES MADE, PROMISES KEPT FORMULA. I'M JUST. THAT'S JUST. AND I AGREE WITH YOU. WE'RE HERE TO DO ONE THING. WE'RE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE'RE NOT CODE COMPLIANT. NO, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD. THE REASON BASICALLY TAKING AWAY THE RESTRICTION, IF IT'S MY MOTION AND THAT HOLDS THEM FROM NOT BEING READY YET, MY VOTE IS NO. DON'T TAKE THE RESTRICTION THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM BUILDING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FIT ANYTHING IN THAT ZIP CODE. OKAY, WELL, LET ME TEST THAT. RIGHT. BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST TAKING THE RESTRICTION AWAY. BUT THE REPORT DOESN'T READ THAT WAY. THE REPORT SAYS YOU CAN BUILD OUT 34 CONDOMINIUMS THAT WON'T BE AGE RESTRICTED. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS. SO THEY DON'T NEED OUR APPROVAL. THEY DO THE RESTRICTIONS THERE. THEY THEY IN ORDER TO HAVE A NON-AGE RESTRICTED THING. YES. OKAY. THEY COULD THEY COULD BUILD THAT SPACE INTO 34 AGE RESTRICTED UNITS. AND WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT WITHOUT THIS ORDINANCE. THE AGE RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL USE IS A PERMITTED USE UNDER THE CURRENT PD. OKAY. SO IT CAPS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS AND PROVIDES OTHER PROVISIONS TO SUPPORT IT, BUT THE USE ITSELF IS A PERMITTED USE. OKAY. AND IT'S GOING BACK TO THINGS THAT COULD BE ALMOST 15 YEARS OLD. RIGHT. IT STILL SEEMS INCONSISTENT. I DON'T SEE A CLEAR VISION OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AT ALL. I DON'T SEE A POSITIVE OUTCOME IN THIS PLAN. I GUESS THE ONE OTHER THING THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME, IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON BUILDING OUT 34 UNITS, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BUILD OUT 3455 UNITS AND LET IT BE FOR A SENIOR COMMUNITY. I GUESS THAT'S THE CONCLUSION I'M [03:00:07] SEEING. OKAY, JUST JUST TO CLARIFY NOW, YOU IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, THEY COULD BUILD 34 UNITS AS LONG AS THEY WERE OCCUPIED BY SOMEONE 55 OR OLDER, IT WOULD BE RESTRICTED BY THEY COULD THEY COULD BUILD UP TO 222 ON THOSE SECOND OR THIRD FLOORS. AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE 55 OR OLDER, THEY DON'T NEED WE HAVE NO THERE'S NO. SO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE ALLOWED THAT. AND SO TO CLARIFY ON THE 222, IF THEY WERE DEALING WITH RAW LAND, YEAH, IT THAT MIGHT BE MORE FEASIBLE. BUT THE REALITIES OF WHAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, FAIR ENOUGH. THAT CANNOT YIELD 222. THEY DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO DO IT. THAT'S THAT'S SOME FOR THE CURRENT ORDER OWNER TO CONSIDER. RIGHT. THEY WANT AGE RESTRICT IT. BUT THAT SAID, HERE'S MY QUESTION ON TANG CITY PLAZA'S WEBSITE. THEY HAVE A REAL NICE PHOTO OF THIS BUILDING. REAL NICE PERSPECTIVE, BETTER THAN PERHAPS WHAT WE HAVE UP THERE ON THE SCREEN. AND IT IS ABANDONED, MORE OR LESS, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE THINKING IS IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT ANALOGOUS, IF YOU WILL, TO A MIXED USE, AND THAT THE FIRST FLOOR IS STILL RETAIL. IT'S THE SECOND, THIRD FLOOR IS THEY WANT TO BUILD 34 UNITS. RIGHT. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS LET'S ASSUME THIS. THEY WERE COMING FORWARD WITH A PLAN THAT THIS WAS A VACANT AREA, AND THEY'RE COMING FORWARD WITH A PLAN TO BUILD THIS STRUCTURE. AND IT WAS PRESENTED AS WE'RE LOOKING HERE. WOULD WE ACCEPT THAT OR IS THERE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE SOME OF THE COMMENTS BROUGHT THIS OUT ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, A MIXED USE TYPE DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM ORNAMENTAL LIGHTING TO, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING, WALKWAYS, ALL OF THAT. WOULD WE LOOK AT THIS AS BUILT AND CONSIDER THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD APPROVE? YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK OF TOWN CENTER AND, YOU KNOW, SUGAR LAND, TOWN CENTER AND MEMORIAL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW THAT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK. THIS WAS AND IS A COMMERCIAL RETAIL BUILDING. THAT'S HOW IT WAS BUILT. AND SO THERE'S PART OF ME KIND OF WELL, OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH. I GET IF IT'S 55 OR OLDER, IT DOESN'T MATTER. BUT LET'S ASSUME, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER, YOU KNOW, THAT WANTING TO LIVE I DON'T KNOW IS THAT. DOES THAT WORK. WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT AND GO, YEAH. AS IT'S BUILT RIGHT NOW. AND SAY, YEAH, THAT IF THAT WAS PRESENTED JUST LIKE THE SPROUTS PRESENTATION EARLIER, YOU SAW THE VISION, YOU GET THE IDEA. YOU SEE HOW THAT WORKS? THAT WORK AS 34 CONDOS IN THAT CURRENT COMMERCIAL BUILDING? I THAT'S MY QUESTION, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE VISION, THE PLAN. I WAS DEFINITELY GOING TO POINT TO OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SIMILAR IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FROM SCRATCH AND TYING IT INTO THE VISION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE FUTURE OF THE CITY, WHERE IT'S GOING. THEN WE'D BE HAVING A SIMILAR CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH THE LAST ITEM, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED UNDER LC3 THAT MAY NOT BE COHESIVE WITH, YOU KNOW, A MIXED USE APPROACH THAT INCLUDES CERTAIN TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL. BUT I DEFINITELY THINK, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONVERSATION, WE KNOW OUR SITUATION IN TERMS OF LAND AVAILABLE TO BUILD. WE KNOW KIND OF THE GOALS AND ASPIRATIONS OF, YOU KNOW, OF OF LOCATING CERTAIN AMENITIES IN CERTAIN LAND USES. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING, YOU KNOW, PUSHING FOR MIXED USE WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S COMPATIBLE. BUT. RIGHT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE RETROFITTING A BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED AND LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE USE, WHAT IS MARKET DRIVEN, WHAT CAN BE SUPPORTED WITH THE VISION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN CREATED OUT THERE? THANK YOU. OKAY, SO, MR. O'MALLEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? COME ON, LET'S HAVE A MOTION. WELL, THE MOTION IS TO GO AGAINST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND NOT REMOVE THE RESTRICTIONS. THAT'S MY MOTION. OKAY, SO IT'S A MOTION TO SUBMIT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION. THAT AN UNDERSTANDING. YOU DIDN'T CLICK YOUR BUTTON, DID YOU? OH, MR. SILVA DID. HE JUMPED ON IT. GOT HE GOT YOU. HE'S GOT THE MOTION AND WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. UNDERSTAND? THIS IS TO SUBMIT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION. THAT RECOMMENDATION IN THE END, THAT THIS PD IS NOT. THE PLACE TO DO THIS BASED ON THE [03:05:10] EXISTING PD. OKAY? RIGHT. THAT THEY CAN BUILD 55. THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS THAT SHIP HAS SAILED. OKAY, OKAY. GO AHEAD AND PLACE YOUR VOTES PLEASE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT STRUCTURE AS AN AGE RESTRICTED BUILDING. CORRECT. WE ARE NOW REMOVING THE AGE RESTRICTION FROM THAT. WE'RE WE'RE SUBMITTING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION. NO CHANGES. WE'RE JUST SAYING NO, DON'T DO IT. MINE DISAPPEARED. YES. WE DIDN'T GET ANY DID WE? OH WE DID. DID IT GO UP? OH, MR. PEARSON, HE UNPLUGGED IT. DO YOU WANT TO JUST DO IT MANUALLY? WE'RE GOING TO DO IT MANUALLY. ALL. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. FOLKS. IF YOU'D BE KIND OF QUIET, LEAVE IT. WE STILL HAVE THE REST OF THE MEETING TO COMPLETE I DON'T KNOW. PLEASE KEEP IT QUIET, PLEASE. HEY. IT'S ALREADY 1015. I KNOW, THERE YOU GO. THAT DIDN'T WORK. LET ME TURN IT OVER. NOW. THEY'RE GOING TO CALL THE POLICE. THEY'RE GOING TO START A RIOT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE'RE. AROUND THE LAST. PUBLIC HEARING [a. Electric Vehicle (EV) Charging Stations] TO RECEIVE COMMENT FOR OR AGAINST PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING THE USE OF PROPERTY FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. ALL RIGHTY. IT IS LATE. WE INTRODUCED THIS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. PROPOSED REGULATIONS TO ESTABLISH REGULATIONS FOR EV CHARGING. WE DO HAVE EV CHARGING AROUND THE CITY IN DIFFERENT AREAS, SO THIS WOULD CREATE SOME UNIFORM STANDARDS AND ESTABLISH STANDARDS BOTH IN NONRESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS. SO THE PURPOSE OBVIOUSLY EV CHARGING IS A GROWING FIELD. WE HAVE A GROWING MARKET OF RESIDENTS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE PURCHASED SUCH VEHICLES THAT ARE LOOKING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE VEHICLES. SO THIS WOULD APPLY FOR ANY EV CHARGING STATIONS LOCATED MOVING FORWARD. IF THESE STANDARDS ARE ADOPTED AND WE ARE ASKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION ON THOSE STANDARDS, THE SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS IS AGAIN, THIS IS NEW. SO THIS WOULD ESTABLISH WHAT EV CHARGING IS WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THIS WOULD ESTABLISH THAT EV CHARGING IS PERMITTED IN ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS. THIS WOULD CODIFY THE PERMITS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO INSTALL A NEW EV CHARGING, OR MODIFY A NEW EV CHARGING STATION. IT WOULD REQUIRE FOR THOSE FACILITIES THAT ARE LOCATED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AT HOMES THAT THEY BE SCREENED. SO I'M SURE EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH ALL DIFFERENT STYLES THAT RESIDENTS TEND TO LOCATE. AND SO THIS WOULD CREATE STANDARDS THAT WHERE THEY LOCATED IS SCREENED FROM VIEW. SO WHETHER IT'S USING LANDSCAPING, WHETHER IT'S USING FENCING, WHETHER IT'S INSIDE GARAGES OR IN ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THAT DOESN'T BECOME A NUISANCE TO OTHER OWNERS WITHIN THOSE SUBDIVISIONS. FOR NONRESIDENTIAL AREAS. THINKING IN TERMS OF OUR SHOPPING CENTERS, MULTI-TENANT, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOTS WHERE THERE'S A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF PARKING, THIS WOULD ESTABLISH LOCATION CRITERIA. THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO INSTALL THOSE FACILITIES AT A DISTANCE AWAY FROM [03:10:02] RESIDENTIAL. OUR ZONING IS STRUCTURED SOMEWHAT TO PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE BUFFERS, AND MOST OF THE ONES THAT ARE IN PLACE TODAY WOULD MEET THIS REQUIREMENT, THIS DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. BUT THIS WOULD PROTECT ANY RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY FROM THE IMPACTS OF ANY NOISE, LIGHTING, VIBRATIONS, ANYTHING THAT MIGHT COME ALONG WITH THESE INSTALLATIONS. CREDITS CAN BE APPLIED FOR SPACES THAT THOSE NONRESIDENTIAL SHOPPING CENTERS, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AREN'T REQUIRED TO INSTALL ADDITIONAL PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE SPACES THAT MIGHT BE DESIGNATED FOR EV CHARGING, AND THEN WOULD ALSO ESTABLISH DESIGN REQUIREMENTS. SO THINGS LIKE THE CORDS MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE EQUIPMENT'S NOT STRUNG AROUND THE PARKING LOT, STRUNG AROUND PARKING SPACES OR OR LOOPED OVER INTO LANDSCAPING OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THE FACILITY IS DESIGNED TO HAVE A RETRACTABLE CORD OR TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF HANG TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT EQUIPMENT STAYS IN PLACE. SIGNAGE IS ALSO PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THERE'S CLEAR SIGNAGE PROVIDED IN THOSE NONRESIDENTIAL AREAS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THE STATION, AS WELL AS CONTACT INFORMATION THAT THE PUBLIC CAN REACH OUT TO FOR MAINTENANCE CONCERNS OR ANY OTHER COMMUNICATION OF THAT NATURE. THAT IS THE SUMMARY OF THE REGULATIONS, AND I WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY QUESTIONS WE ARE ASKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND FOR YOU ALL TO ADOPT THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE AND REPORT AS YOUR FINAL REPORT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. PERMITTING THE CITY BENEFITS FROM THE PERMITTING. THOSE NEW EV STATIONS. CORRECT. SO CURRENTLY IN WHAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE IS ELECTRICAL PERMITS ARE ALWAYS REQUIRED. SO ANY INSTALLATION THAT EXISTS TODAY IN ANY NEW ONE MOVING FORWARD AT A MINIMUM WOULD HAVE TO PULL AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT. AND WHAT ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SAY LIKE WE ALL HAD AT ONE TIME? THEY ALSO RESIDENTIAL WILL NEED A PERMIT ALSO A YEARLY JUST LIKE WE DO OUR ALARMS. CORRECT. BECAUSE ANY MODIFICATION, YOU KNOW, TO ELECTRICAL WIRING ADDING, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE AN ANNUAL THING THOUGH, SO. CORRECT. RIGHT. IT'S NOT A LICENSE. NOT A LICENSE. NO, IT'S A PERMIT. RIGHT, RIGHT. WELL IT'S IT'S A PERMIT TO DO THE ELECTRICAL WORK. BUT ONCE IT'S IT DEPENDS BECAUSE IF IT'S A 220 LINE, IT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE HOME. THEY JUST REPURPOSED THAT 220 LINE. SO THERE'S NO PERMIT TO PULL. THE ONLY TIME THEY HAVE TO DO THE PERMIT IS WHEN THEY'RE MODIFYING. BUT IF YOU DO ELECTRICAL WORK ON YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PULL A PERMIT. WELL, ANY REPUTABLE ELECTRICIAN, NOT WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. I KNOW I DO MY OWN ELECTRICAL WORK TOO. WELL, I DON'T PULL PERMITS, BUT. WELL, I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW THE THE REGULATION, THE REGULATION THAT'S ATTACHED TO THIS ORDINANCE IS THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PULL A PERMIT. SO ANY INSTALLATION MOVING FORWARD, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND YES, IF THEY'RE MAKING ANY MODIFICATIONS NOW TO ELECTRICAL, EXISTING ELECTRICAL, THEY SHOULD BE PULLING ELECTRICAL PERMITS OKAY. THIS IS A GOOD JOB. WELL KUDOS TO OUR LEGAL TEAM BECAUSE THEY HAVE REALLY JUST KIND OF BEEN THE DRIVERS AND SHAPE THIS ORDINANCE. SO VERY GRATEFUL TO OUR LEGAL TEAM FOR THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS. IT MAKES SENSE. IT MODERNIZES THE CITY AND IT TAKES US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO I MEAN, IT'S BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY BENEFIT THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE JUST PERMITTING. AND THAT'S IT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EVOLVING FIELD. SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN UP WITH, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO EVACUATE OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THIS IS ALSO PART OF STRATEGY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT THAT EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE USING FOR VARIOUS TYPES OF SERVICES. SO DOES THIS AFFECT OUR HIGH RATING FOR INSURANCE BECAUSE OF OUR FIRE CODE AND ELECTRICAL CODE? MISSOURI CITY HAS A GOOD RATING BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF FIRE TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE. AND SO INSURANCE COMPANIES LOOK UPON US FAVORABLY. DOES THIS AFFECT THAT? THAT WAS NOT THE MOTIVATION FOR THIS ORDINANCE, BUT IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE IF THESE REGULATIONS, IF IT'S NOT WORKING, YOU SEE MY RATES BENEFITS. YES, YES. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU NEED A MOTION. WELL, NO. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TALK AWAY. RIGHT. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ONE QUICK QUESTION I HAVE JENNIFER I KNOW [03:15:04] WE TALKED ABOUT THE REGULATION, BUT THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY OTHER THAN THAT PROPERTY TAX OR THE PERMIT AMOUNT WE GET, IS THERE ANY OTHER BENEFIT FOR THE CITY REVENUE. SO THE SYSTEMS THEMSELVES AREN'T TAXED. CORRECT. SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REVENUE BENEFITS TO THE CITY, THAT WOULD BE LIMITED TO PERMITTING. AS YOU MIGHT BE AWARE, THERE ARE OTHER EV CHARGING STATIONS THAT HAVE ENTERED INTO AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY. ON CITY PROPERTY. THOSE WOULD HAVE DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS. BUT IN TERMS OF REVENUE BENEFITS WITH THIS ORDINANCE, IT WOULD JUST BE THE PERMITTING PIECE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOBODY SIGNED UP. YEAH OKAY. SO NOW YOU CAN MAKE IT ONE. YOUR FIRST MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES. MOTION. DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON SECOND? WE HAVE TO VOTE. THERE WE GO. PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSED. NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO TWO. CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION. MAKE A MOTION FOR CONSENT TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. DISCUSSION, MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION. NONE. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT [a. Public Infrastructure Design Manual Update] SECTION. OTHER MATTERS. PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL UPDATE. LOOK AT YOU GUYS. YOU ARE AWESOME. YOU. THIS IS A QUICK ONE. MY CONDOLENCES THIS LONG. GOOD EVENING, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS VINCENZO CAROZZA, YOUR CITY ENGINEER, AND I'M EDDIE NAGORSKY, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER. OKAY. WE'LL BE PRESENTING THE UPDATE TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL OR IDM. WHAT IS THE IDM? IN SHORT, IT'S A DESIGN GUIDEBOOK TO HELP BOTH DEVELOPERS AND ENGINEERS WHO WORK ON OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. A STANDARD ON HOW WE WANT OUR STREETS, SIDEWALKS, WATER SYSTEMS, AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURES TO BE DESIGNED. FOR EXAMPLE, HOW TO BUILD A ROUNDABOUT OR HOW BIG A DETENTION POND TO BUILD ON A COMMERCIAL LOT, RIGHT? HERE'S A BRIEF TIMELINE OF THE IDM PROCESS. IT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN 1995, AND THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IT'S BEEN UPDATED. WE HAVE TO ADAPT TO THE TIMES. FOR EXAMPLE, HURRICANE HARVEY CAME IN 2017 AND WE REVISED THE IDM IN 2019 TO TO CHANGE THE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. AFTER SOLICITING FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS, WE'RE PROPOSING TO UPDATE THE IDM WITH THESE MAJOR CHANGES, MAINLY IN CHAPTER FIVE REGARDING WATER SYSTEMS. CHAPTER SEVEN FOR STORMWATER, CHAPTER TEN FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND CHAPTER 11 FOR ROADS AND STREET SIGNS. AGAIN, THIS IS A LIST OF THE MAJOR CHANGES. FOR MORE DETAILS OF ALL OF ALL PROPOSED CHANGES, SEE THE DOCUMENT WITH THE RED LINES OF THE 2019 INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL. OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. I TOLD YOU A SHORT. WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. BACK TO YOU, CHAIRMAN HANEY. ALL RIGHT. SO QUESTIONS. YEAH I HAVE A COUPLE. YEAH. BACK UP ONE REAL QUICK. BACK UP YOUR SLIDE REAL QUICK. SURE. THERE THE SPAN WIRE TRAFFIC SIGNALS. DO I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY. THAT'S. YES. THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW THOSE. YES. SO USUALLY HURRICANES THEY KNOCK THOSE THINGS DOWN. AND SO NOW WE WANT TO MORE ROBUST. SO ARE WE REPLACING THE ONES WE HAVE OR SO NEW DEVELOPMENT. WE WON'T SPAN WIRES. AND EVENTUALLY AS WE'RE REPLACING WE'RE FINDING BUDGET. WE'RE REPLACING THE SPAN WIRE ONES. GOOD. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO I DID NOT READ THE DOCUMENT OKAY I, I TRY I STARTED I REALLY DID I REALLY DID I THE RED LINE THING IN A PDF IS JUST ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO READ. OKAY. YOU REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO TURN IT ON AND OFF TO SEE THAT STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT MY MY MAIN QUESTION WAS WHAT HAS BEEN THE REVIEW PROCESS? I MEAN, I BELIEVE YOU SAID YOU HAD SOME CONSULTANTS HELPING WITH THIS, OR I CAN START AND THEN I'LL HAND OFF TO TO EDDIE. AND ALSO WE HAVE BRIAN JACKSON TAYLOR. TOM. SORRY, JACKSON TAYLOR, WHO'S BEEN WITH THE PROCESS FOR A LONG TIME. I THINK WE STARTED THIS MAYBE 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO, [03:20:02] AND IT STARTED WITH STAFF GETTING INPUT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND DEVELOPERS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WHO SAID, HEY, WE WANT THESE THINGS IN THE CHANGES. AND THEN WE HAD A CONSULTANT ALSO REACH OUT TO OTHER CONSULTANTS AND TRY TO GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER. AND ALSO THEY CHECKED WITH, I THINK, FORT BEND COUNTY OR OTHER AGENCIES AND SEE HOW THEY DID IT. AND SO A LOT OF THE RED LINES THAT YOU SAW WERE THE CONSULTANTS TAKING ALL THIS VARIOUS INPUT, FEEDBACK AND CRAFTING SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE. SO IT IS A YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, IT'S PRETTY MUCH A HODGEPODGE. LIKE I SAID, WE HAD CONSULTANTS. WE ALSO HAD INTERNAL STAFF REVIEW IT. WE HAD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REVIEW IT. PARKS REVIEWED THE UPDATE UPDATES ON THE TREE ORDINANCE AND WHATNOT. IN IN IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE. SO WE HAD A PRETTY EXTENSIVE REVIEW OF THIS. YEAH. SO I WASN'T GOING TO REALLY ADD A WHOLE LOT. YEAH. WELL WE'D LIKE TO ALSO, YOU KNOW, PERIODICALLY UPDATE THESE. SO IN PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS WE WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY ENGINEER TO MAKE MINOR CHANGES. WE'D LIKE TO DO THE MAJOR OVERHAULS USUALLY EVERY FIVE YEARS. AS YOU SAW FROM THE THE TIMELINE. USUALLY THEY'RE ABOUT FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS TO FOR A MAJOR OVERHAUL. OKAY. I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON QUESTION. I HAVE I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A SUMMARY PAGE WITH ALL THE CHANGES, MAYBE ON THE FIRST PAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. INSTEAD OF US GOING THROUGH ALL THESE, HOW MANY PAGES WOULD YOU LIKE? 627 PAGES. LIKE TWO? I HAVE TWO, IF YOU LIKE. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. OTHERWISE IT MIGHT BE ON PAGES. YOU HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS IS MORE DETAILS THAN THIS. TWO SIX. AND SO. THIS SHOULD LAST US FIVE YEARS, GIVE OR TAKE, WITH SOME MINOR CHANGES. YEAH. SINCE 2019. YEAH, I KNOW, BUT THIS ONE WE'RE IN 2025. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN UNTIL 2030. WE HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE MAJOR LIKE HURRICANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THAT MIGHT CHANGE OUR REQUIREMENTS BUT HAVE THAT ABILITY TO KIND OF UPDATE AS TIME GOES ON. OKAY. SO THE CHANGE IS PRETTY MUCH BASED ON FORCE MAJEURE FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT OCCUR. RIGHT? OKAY, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. GREAT JOB. YES. THANK YOU. WHAT'S OUR ACTION HERE? I GUESS WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS. YES. YOU'RE ASKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. WE HAVE A SECOND VOTE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR STAYING LATE TO. ALL RIGHT. [b. Comprehensive Plan Update] TENBY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. I WILL KEEP IT CLEAN FOR THIS LATE. THE SECOND SURVEY CITIZEN SURVEY HAS NOW CLOSED, AND WE CLOSED IT AT THE END OF OCTOBER. AND I AM VERY GLAD TO SAY WE GOT VERY, VERY CLOSE TO OUR 300 RESPONSE MARK. SO WE APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONERS, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THOSE THAT PARTICIPATED. BUT WE DID GET A RESPONSE MUCH HIGHER THAN WE DID ON THE FIRST SURVEY. SO WE ARE COMPILING THOSE RESPONSES TO BRING FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION IN OUR NEXT STEPS IS TO START THE PROCESS. TWO THINGS THAT ARE AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THANK YOU. OKAY. NO EARLY NO EARLY FEEDBACK YET. NO EARLY FEEDBACK ON THE ON THE RESULTS. I MEAN, IT DOES IT TRACK WITH WHAT WE HEARD BEFORE OR DID GENERALLY. SO WE DID HAVE CORRIDORS THAT KIND OF ROSE TO THE TOP IN TERMS OF WHERE THE PUBLIC THAT RESPONDED DESIRES TO SEE SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING. SO I THINK THE SPROUTS DISCUSSION IS RIGHT ON POINT WITH WHERE THE PUBLIC THAT RESPONDED SEES OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY. SO, YEAH. ALL RIGHT THEN. WELL THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR MORE. THANK YOU. ONE MORE ONE MORE MOTION. I CAN STILL SAY THANK YOU. YES YOU CAN. AFTER YOU [03:25:04] MAKE THE MOTION. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. MOTION CARRIES. NOW YOU CAN SAY THANK YOU. THANK * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.