Mar 02, 2026 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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MARCH 2ND, 2026. WE'LL NOW CALL THE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:30 P.M. ITEM NUMBER TWO.

QUORUM. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS OUR PLEDGE TO BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN MARSHALL. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS PUBLIC COMMENT. CITY SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FOR THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? NO,

[(a) City Manager Report - Provide an overview of announcements of communit...]

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY ANNOUNCEMENTS. ALL RIGHT. SO IN YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT THAT RHONDA DOESN'T GET TO SAY ANYTHING. NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. NOT ON THE AGENDA. SOME OF OURS IS NOT WORKING THE. OH IT IS. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SIX, OUR CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

IS THERE A SECOND. SECOND OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW. WE. YES. OKAY. MAYOR. YES. MEMBER. BROWN.

MARSHALL. YES. MAYOR. PRO TEM. CLOUSER. YES. MEMBER. RILEY. YES. MEMBER. THOMPSON. YES.

MEMBER. O'DEKIRK. YES. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT US TO.

MONICA, DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE THE SIXTH, THE REST OF IT AND GET IT APPROVED OR OR GO TO D? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. 66 E YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER RILEY. SECOND, A MOTION ON ITEM SIX E TO PULL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON SECONDED. GO AHEAD. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. MAYOR. YEAH, YEAH. MARSHALL.

YEP. MAYOR PRO TEM. CLOUSER. YES. MEMBER. RILEY. YES. MEMBER. THOMPSON. YES. MEMBER. O'DEKIRK.

YES. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE SIX A, B, C IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE. SECOND.

GO AHEAD. SO COUNCIL MEMBER ORDER KIRK WITH THE MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON WITH THE SECOND. AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. MAYOR. YES. MEMBER. BROWN. MARSHALL. YES. MAYOR. PRO TEM CLOUSER. YES. MEMBER. RILEY. YES. MEMBER. THOMPSON. YES. MEMBER. O'DEKIRK. YES. THE

[(d) Consideration and Possible Action - Authorize the City Manager to nego...]

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GOOD EVENING MUSTAFA. GOOD EVENING. AS I AS I WENT THROUGH THE PROPOSAL BY L.J. ONE THING THAT I DID NOT NOTICE WAS A TIMELINE. DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE THAT WE CAN WRITE INTO THE ACTUAL CONTRACT? YES, IT IS AN ALL VERIFY BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL FROM THEM, IT SHOULD HAVE A TIMELINE IN THE END OF IT. SO IT WAS THE LAST PAGE. I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF YOU. I COULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT, BUT IT SHOULD BE THE LAST PAGE. THEIR ESTIMATE IS ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF, EIGHT AND A HALF MONTHS. WE DO ANTICIPATE IN MY POWERPOINT I PUT 11 MONTHS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE PROJECTS COMING ALONG IN THAT INTERSECTION. WE HAVE THE HENRY WHAT'S EAST AND THE WEST AND ALSO TRANSMISSION WATER MAIN IN THERE. SO WE DO WANT TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL COME TOGETHER IN FUNCTIONALLY IN THE RIGHT PLACE. SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE IN 2027, BUT DESIGN WISE IT WILL BE BETWEEN EIGHT AND A HALF TO 11 MONTHS. WE ALSO HAVE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS THAT NEED TO BE COME IN PLACE. SO ALL THIS TIME WILL BE WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME. SO WE DON'T HAVE FULL RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AS OF YET. WE HAVE NOT. BUT WE HAVE TASKED THE THE CONSULTANT TO START LOOKING INTO IT ALREADY. SO WE ALREADY KIND OF KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SO WHILE THEY'RE DESIGNING THE ROUNDABOUT, WE'LL START WORKING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS. SO WE WON'T BE LOSING ANY TIME ON THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. I THINK SHASHI MAY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. THERE IS. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THERE IS A TIMELINE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT ALSO MUSTAFA HAS A LITTLE PRESENTATION. IF YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER THE SCHEDULE OF THE PROJECT, HE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. WOULD YOU DO THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'VE RECEIVED THE THE TIMELINE, OR MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. NO, I DON'T SEE IT. SO THIS IS NOT INCLUDED. OKAY. WE'RE WORKING ON OKAY. NONE OF US IS WORKING.

OKAY. IS IT ALL RIGHT? IS THIS IT RIGHT HERE WHERE IT SAYS NOTICE TO PROCEED? AND YOU HAVE THESE DATES HERE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? IS YOUR TIMELINE? NO. SO IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM CONSULTANTS. YES. EXACTLY. OKAY. SO THIS RIGHT HERE IT'S A TIME SCHEDULE IS A SCHEDULE BASICALLY. SO EIGHT AND A HALF MONTHS IS A TOTAL DESIGN THAT THE CONSULTANT LOOKING FOR. BUT WE DID ADD AN ADDITIONAL TIME FRAME IN THERE TO MAKE SURE WE COORDINATE WITH OTHER CONSULTANTS THAT THE COUNTY HAD HIRED TO DESIGN HENRY WATTS, AS WELL AS THE TRANSMISSION WATER MAIN CONSULTANT THAT DOING TRANSMISSION WATER MAIN PROJECT.

SO IN REALITY, THERE'S THREE PROJECTS HAPPENING IN THAT AREA HENRY WATTS EAST, HENRY WEST, THE ROUNDABOUT, AS WELL AS THE DISTRIBUTION WATER MAIN PROJECT. OKAY. AND AS THE ARE THERE ANY LIKE PENALTIES OR ANYTHING WHEN WE AREN'T ON TRACK? HOW DOES THAT WORK. SO THIS IS MORE OF A DESIGN. SO THIS IS REALLY OUR CONSULTANT WORKING ON THE DESIGN. SO TYPICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PENALTIES ON THAT. THE PENALTIES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S MORE ON CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION SIDE. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE HERE CONSTRUCTION OF FULL RECONSTRUCTION SCOPE TO WHAT IS THAT. SO BASICALLY THEY WILL ASSIST IN PROVIDING SERVICES TO REVIEW ANY CHANGE ORDERS, ANY RFIS THAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN OR DESIGN, THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. SO ANY ISSUES THAT COMES ALONG DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, THE CONSULTANT WILL PROVIDE SERVICES TO TO ASSIST IN THAT END. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A I DO I DO HAVE A QUESTION TO STAFF. SO THIS IS LJ ENGINEERING AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING SEVERAL PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO WALK ME THROUGH THE FACT THAT SUCH A AN ENGINEERING OF THE ROUNDABOUT OR DESIGN WORK, DOES IT TAKE 12 MONTHS TO DO SO? IT'S REALLY AN OPEN QUESTION BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY ASPECTS TO THAT. PLAYS ENROLLED ROUNDABOUT. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS IS TO DO A PRELIMINARY LAYOUT TO MAKE SURE THE LAYOUT FUNCTIONAL AND RUN AUTOMATION SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THE CIRCULATION AND THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT WE THAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING ALONG WILL BE FUNCTIONAL IN THAT ROUNDABOUT. ONCE YOU KIND OF FINALIZE THE LAYOUT, YOU STILL HAVE SOME PERMITTING TO DO WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES, AND THAT REALLY PLAYS A ROLE IN THE TIME FRAME. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE ASPECTS THAT PLAYS IN THERE. AND IT'S NOT LIKE JUST SOMEONE SITTING BEHIND THE COMPUTER AND DRAWING A ROUNDABOUT. SURE. HERE'S MY CONCERN. MY CONCERN IS LJ ENGINEERING. NOT ONLY DOES PROJECTS FOR CITY OF MISSOURI CITY, THEY DO IT FOR FORT BEND COUNTY. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. SO NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE

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AND THAT CONCERN IS A CONCERN IS BECAUSE OF THE GROWING NUMBER OF HOMES AND THE TRAFFIC ON SIENNA PARKWAY. MAYOR, I HEAR YOU. I HEAR YOUR CONCERN. AND WE'LL DEFINITELY STAY ON TOP OF THIS PROJECT AND MAKE SURE. BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND. ALSO, THERE IS CRITICAL PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ALONG IN THAT INTERSECTION. THE WATER MAIN DISTRIBUTION PROJECT. IT IS A REGULATORY REQUIREMENT. SO WE MUST CONSTRUCT THAT FIRST. AND THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. IT'S IN DESIGN AS WE SPEAK. AND ONCE THAT'S COMPLETED, THE EAST SIDE AND THE WEST SIDE OF HENRY, WHAT'S WITH THIS ROUNDABOUT? ALL NEED TO MARRY ITSELF TOGETHER AS ONE BIG FINAL PROJECT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WILL DEFINITELY STAY ON TOP OF LGA AND MAKE SURE THE DESIGN IS COMPLETED. AND LIKE AS I SAID EARLIER, THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION WILL HAPPEN SIMULTANEOUSLY WHILE WE'RE DOING DESIGN. SO WE'LL START THE PROCESS SO WE DON'T LOSE TIME ON THAT. OKAY. I WANT YOU TO STAY RIGHT THERE. COME ON UP HERE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING CHASSIS. AND YOU ARE THE PROPER CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING HIM. BECAUSE THE HENRY WATTS ROAD. EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED AS A MAYOR, 2020 COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I WAS AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THAT HENRY WATTS ROAD WAS GOING TO EXPAND. AND THIS IS 2020 6TH FEBRUARY AND MARCH 2ND, AND I'M SEEING ANYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE TO HENRY WATTS ROAD COMING FROM SIENNA PARKWAY ALL THE WAY TO A NIGHT, I MEAN, NIGHT ROAD, RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S IN AND ANOTHER WHAT WE'VE BEEN HERE FIVE, ALMOST PAST FIVE YEARS, AND I DON'T EVEN SEE A DIRT BEING MOVED FROM THERE. AND IT'S A HEAD ON COLLISION. NOW YOU GOT THIS ROUNDABOUT. SO WE GOT TO GET ROLLING HERE. SO AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IF LJ ENGINEERING AGAIN NOT NOTHING AGAINST THEM. ARE THEY THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD DO THE DESIGN WHERE THERE ALREADY ARE OVER BOMBARDED WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON SIENNA PARKWAY, THE DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANES TO FROM SIENNA PARKWAY TO TRAMMEL FRESNO HAS BEEN ENGINEERING WAS LJ DESIGN. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, HOW DO WE GET SOME OF THIS THING ROLLING? OKAY, SO FIRST THING ON THIS ROUNDABOUT PROJECT WE ARE PUSHING AN AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE. LJ IS AN EXPERT WHO HAS DESIGNED ROUNDABOUTS, NUMBER OF ROUNDABOUTS, MEADOWS PLACE. THEY'VE DONE SIMILAR PROJECTS. NOW THE OTHER PROJECT IS NOT MANAGED BY THE CITY. THIS ONE WE ARE IN CONTROL. WE'RE MANAGING IT AND TIME IS OF ESSENCE ON THIS PROJECT. AND THE WAY WE ARE LAYING OUT IS WE'RE DOING THE PRELIMINARY

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THAT'S WHERE THE BIG TIME CRUNCH IS, AND THAT IS THE WAY WE HAVE PROGRAMED, HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONSULTANT, AND THAT'S HOW WE'LL ENSURE THAT THIS PROJECT IS DELIVERED ON TIME. MY LAST QUESTION AND I'LL GO TO COUNCILMAN KIRK, WAS THIS DESIGN OF $314,000, WAS THAT BIDDED OUT? YES. WE WENT THROUGH A CONSULTANT SELECTION PROCESS. IT WAS EVEN PRESENTED TO THEN THE PDI COMMITTEE. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THIS IS THE DESIGN PROCESS.

WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL ONCE WE HAVE DESIGNED AND AWARDED THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE AWARD OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. OKAY. WHO WAS THE SECOND AND THIRD VENDORS? I DO NOT HAVE IT ON TOP OF MY HEAD HERE, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. WELL, THERE'S NO POINT IN PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION AFTER IT'S BEEN VOTED ON. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO WERE THE SECOND AND THIRD FOR THIS DESIGN, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE ONE THAT COMING TOWARDS US AND RECOMMENDING AND TO AWARD THIS PARTICULAR FIRM. SO MY QUESTION IS WHO WAS THE SECOND AND THIRD AND WHERE THEY WHAT IN LINE WERE THEY? IN ORDER FOR YOU GUYS TO PICK SOMEONE WHO IS DOING PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE COUNTY AND A TIME CRUNCH. AND I CAN GET THAT, I HAVE TO PULL IT FROM MY COMPUTER. I DON'T HAVE IT READY ON ON ME AT THIS POINT. OKAY. WE'LL GO TO COUNCILMEMBER O'DEKIRK. SO THAT WAS REALLY MY QUESTION WAS THE BID PROCESS. AND THAT'S REALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE KEEP GETTING, YOU KNOW, WE GET ACCUSED OF TAKING KICKBACKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO THE BID PROCESS WAS REALLY MY QUESTION. SO JUST IF I MAY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, SELECTION OF A DESIGN CONSULTANT A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES IS BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS. THAT IS THE STATE LAW. IT CANNOT BE DONE BASED ON PRICE. THAT IS A STATE LAW. WE WENT THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF AN RFQ AND THE SELECTION PROCESS. PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND OTHER TEAMS WERE INVOLVED. THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS PRESENTED TO THE PDI COMMITTEE. THE PDI COMMITTEE ASKED STAFF THE AUTHORIZATION TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE CONSULTANT, AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU. OKAY, ONCE WE HOLD ON, LET ME JUMP IN. ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BID THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECT. AND WHEN THE BIDS COME IN AND THERE YOU CAN DO THE SELECTION OR THE SELECTION OF THE CONTRACTOR BASED ON PRICE. AT THAT POINT, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND ASK FOR THE AUTHORIZATION OF CONTRACT. SO I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS THE SELECTION OF THE DESIGN CONSULTANT. THIS IS NOT THE SELECTION OF THE CONTRACTOR.

THE SELECTION OF THE CONTRACTOR WILL COME AT A LATER DATE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER O'DEKIRK. LET ME, IF I MAY, WHO'S ON THE PD COMMITTEE? I WANT CHRIS TO ANSWER THAT. I'M SORRY, I JUST ONE SECOND. YES, THERE WAS A CHANGE THAT WAS MADE. SO JUST GIVE ME ONE

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THAT'S NOT PART OF PDI OR SO ANY OTHER COMMITTEE. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. MAYOR, WE ARE PRESENTING TO THE COUNCIL FOR AUTHORIZATION. WE HAVE A CONSULTANT SELECTION POLICY ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL AND OF THE CURRENT POLICY THAT WE HAVE STAFF SELECTS, THE CONSULTANTS, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PDI COMMITTEE. PDI COMMITTEE MAKES THE RECOMMENDS TO THE FULL COUNCIL, AND THE FULL COUNCIL AUTHORIZES THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. AND WE HAVE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS THAT'S ADOPTED BY THE CONSULTANT SELECTION POLICY ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL, IT SAYS THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION. IT DOESN'T SAY IT'S A PDI RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT'S CONTRADICTING TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID. IT'S IT'S COMING BEFORE US AS A BODY OF CITY COUNCIL, AS STAFF RECOMMENDS LJ CONSTRUCTION COMPANY OR WHATEVER IT IS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. NOW, PDI OR ANY OF THE COUNCIL COMMITTEES IS THAT TOUCH BASE TO RUN IT THROUGH THEM BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND OR THEY'RE ASKING CERTAIN VARIOUS QUESTIONS. BUT WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THIS BODY OF COUNCIL, BECAUSE IN ANY OF THOSE COUNCIL COMMITTEES, THERE'S ONLY THREE PEOPLE THAT SITS IN THERE. THERE'S A REASON WHY THERE'S ONLY THREE PEOPLE, NOT FOUR. SO FOUR OF US, WHOEVER IS ON THIS DAIS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, WHAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT, WHAT THE ISSUES WERE, NONE OF THAT. SO I'M ASKING AGAIN BECAUSE SHASHI SAID IT. IS THIS A PDI RECOMMENDATION OR IS THIS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION? IT'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THE PDI PROVIDES ADVICE TO STAFF, OKAY. AND THEN STAFF MAKES THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THAT ADVICE. SO MY QUESTION INITIAL QUESTION BACK TO CITY MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IS YOU SAID THE QUALIFICATION YOU HAVE TO BE QUALIFIED. RIGHT. SO WHEN THE RFQ WENT OUT WHERE LGA ENGINEERING WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S QUALIFIED OR YOU HAD MORE, WE HAD MULTIPLE FORMS AND WE FOUND LGA TO BE THE MOST QUALIFIED FOR THE ROUNDABOUT DESIGN, AND THAT'S HOW THE FIRM WAS PICKED BY THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. OKAY, SO MY QUESTION WAS WHO WAS SECOND AND WHO WAS YOUR SECOND CHOICE? WHO WAS YOUR THIRD CHOICE IN THAT? IF YOU'RE PRESENTING TO THIS TO THE BODY OF COUNCIL, IF COUNCIL DECIDED MAJORITY DECIDED NOT TO GO WITH LGA, THERE SHOULD BE A SECOND AND A THIRD. I'M ASKING WHO THEY WERE AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND YOU WANT TO GET THAT TO THE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION HANDY. MAYOR. I WILL DEFINITELY GET YOU THE INFORMATION WHO WAS SELECTED. THIS IS AN RFQ WAS SELECTED BACK IN 2024. SO IN 2024 A POOL OF ENGINEERING FIRMS HAD APPLIED. AND THAT'S WHERE THE PDI RECOMMENDED AND STAFF TO SELECT THOSE FIRMS. SO LGA IS JUST ONE OF THOSE FIRMS THAT WERE SELECTED BACK IN 2024. AND STAFF FEELS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS, OTHER ONES. BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY SHARE THE NAMES OF THE OTHER FIRMS AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE. AND JUST JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE OTHER FIRMS WOULDN'T, WE HAVE NOT APPROACHED THEM AND GOT A PRICE FROM THEM EITHER. THIS IS LGA PRICE. SO IF WE FAIL TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM, GO TO THE SECOND ONE AND IT'S NOT SECOND OR THIRD BASED ON REALLY RANKING, SO TO SPEAK, IS MORE OF A POOL OF FIRMS WHO ARE THE MOST QUALIFIED TO DO CERTAIN WORK. STATE LAW AUTHORIZES YOU TO GO RANDOMLY IN THE LIST BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE IN DOING THE WORK. SURE, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT CITY COUNCIL, THE SEVEN OF US, DOESN'T NEED TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS. LET'S MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. RIGHT. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, STAFF CAN RECOMMEND.

IT'S FINE. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. WE. BUT THERE SHOULD BE A SECOND OR A THIRD IN PLACE FOR THIS BODY, THE SEVEN OF US TO IF THAT'S THE IF SO CHOSE IF THAT'S A MEMBER,

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MAYOR, IF I MAY MAKE IT VERY QUICK FOR YOU. THERE IS AN ADOPTED COUNCIL CONSULTANT SELECTION POLICY. WE'VE FOLLOWED THE POLICY TO THE CORE, AND WE'VE GOTTEN THIS STAGE. IT IS THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZATION FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. IF THE COUNCIL DOES NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, WE'LL BE GOING BACK TO SELECT THE CONSULTANT. OBVIOUSLY, IT WILL COST TREMENDOUS DELAY ON THIS PROJECT. NO, NO, MAYOR, IF I MAY, THIS AGENDA ITEM CAN ALWAYS BE TABLED UNTIL I WOULD ASK TO BE TABLED. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND AND A THIRD CHOICE IN FRONT OF US, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE IT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE VOTING ONLY BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS ONE FIRM THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING IT TO US. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW WE GOVERN, OR WE SHOULD GOVERN IN THE SENSE THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE A FIRST, YOUR RECOMMENDATION SECOND, AND A THIRD CHOICE IN ORDER FOR ANY MEMBER OF THIS BODY TO CHANGE AS THEY SEE IT. AND MAYOR AND JUST TO JUST TO ADD SOMETHING TO IT, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET YOU THE NAMES OF THE FIRMS. BUT RIGHT NOW, PRICE WISE, WE ARE ONLY WE CANNOT APPROACH MULTIPLE FIRMS AND, AND BRING YOU ALL THE PRICINGS BECAUSE THAT IS AGAINST THE STATE STATUTE WHEN IT COMES TO US DESIGN SERVICES. I'VE NEVER I'VE NEVER ASKED FOR THE PRICE AGAIN. I JUST ASKED WAS WHO'S THE SECOND? WHO WAS THE THIRD FIRM THAT YOU? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE NAMES OF THE OTHER. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SECOND OR THIRD. THERE'S NO RANKING IN THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'LL PRESENT THE FIRM, THE LIST OF FIRMS WHO ARE SELECTED IN THERE, AND WE'LL COME BACK HERE BECAUSE THE RANKING IS BASED UPON QUALIFICATIONS. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE ROUNDABOUT, BECAUSE IT MAY BE RANKED NUMBER ONE IS NOT A ROUNDABOUT FIRM. LET ME FURTHERMORE EXPLAIN, SINCE YOU WENT THAT ROUTE I'M SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER EMERY, THERE WAS AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT SAT IN HERE BECAUSE IF YOU GUYS GRADE THEM TO WHATEVER THE NUMBER SYSTEM THEY ARE, THEY WERE NUMBER FOUR OR OR SOMETHING OF THAT, THAT WORK, THAT CONTRACT WENT TO SOMEONE WHO WAS 16 AND THEY BROUGHT A BIG ISSUE. THIS WAS PROBABLY LAST YEAR, LATE LAST YEAR SOMETIME OCTOBER OR SEPTEMBER, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. AND I BROUGHT IT TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING, SAYING, WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT SAYING, HOW DID HOW DID THE STAFF RANK THESE PEOPLE? BECAUSE WE DIDN'T RANK THEM, RIGHT? SOMEBODY DID. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN HOW DO YOU PRIORITIZE? OR THERE HAS TO BE A CLEAR CUT DEFINITION TO GIVE TO THOSE PEOPLE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT AND IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION, THEY WERE QUALIFIED. SO THEY WERE QUALIFIED. SO SOMEHOW THEY GOT BUMPED FROM BEING NUMBER FOUR ON THE LIST ALL THE WAY TO NUMBER 16. WHO, WHO AWARDED THE CONTRACT. SO I THINK I WOULD SAY IS WE TABLE THIS UNTIL YOU GUYS FIGURE THIS OUT. I'M NOT ASKING FOR PRICING. I DON'T I DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE PRICING.

BUT BEFORE ME TODAY FOR ME TO VOTE ON THIS COMFORTABLY, THE BODY NEEDS TO HAVE A FIRST, A SECOND AND A THIRD. BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT THAT WE WANT TO GO AS BASED ON, IF LGA ENGINEERING IS NOT WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING THAT WE NEEDED TO GO, THEN WE SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE SECOND AND THIRD. YOU CAN'T GIVE US AS A SOUNDING BODY TO ONLY ONE OPTION AND SAYING TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. IT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. YEAH. AND AND JUST SO I CAN MAKE IT CLEAR, I THINK WHAT STAFF IS SAYING IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE A FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD. WHAT WE WILL GIVE IS PROS AND CONS AS IT RELATES TO QUALIFICATIONS AND SPECIFIC QUALIFICATIONS THAT HELP DETERMINE THAT DECISION. THAT'S FINE. SO AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOMETHING, YOU WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. COLUMN ONE WITH LG ENGINEERING, COLUMN TWO, COLUMN THREE AND WHATEVER IT IS. SO THIS WAY WE HAVE IT IN OUR REPORTS. SO WE CAN MAKE THAT. WE CAN GO GO DOWN THAT

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SO THIS WAY THAT TOMORROW IF SOMEONE ASKS ME I HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW THAT WHY I VOTED THE WAY THAT I VOTED, I YIELD BACK. COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PDI COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS SET UP TO LOOK AT THE OR THE REQUIREMENTS OF A PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS GOING THROUGH THE CORRECT PROCESS WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR SELECTION.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS FROM PDI. I SHOULDN'T SAY ALL WE'RE DOING, BUT WHAT WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO DO ENSURE IS THAT THE THE FORM, THE PROCESS AND THE SELECTION WAS IN LINE WITH OUR PROCEDURES AND OUR POLICY AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE PDI GROUP. NOW, WHAT WE DO IS WHEN WE COME BACK IN, THE PROJECT COMES UP. THE FIRST THING THAT'S NORMALLY ASKED IS THE PDI LOOKED AT IT AND WHAT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION. AND WE GIVE THAT RECOMMENDATION AGAIN BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE CRITERIA THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU WANT ALL SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISION, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE THE PDI GROUP, BECAUSE ALL WE'RE DOING IS, YOU KNOW, TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID AND SAYING IT'S OKAY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT GETS HERE, YOU SAY, WELL, I DON'T LIKE THAT. I WANT TO SEE ONE, TWO AND THREE. WELL, WE LOOKED AT TWO AND ONE, TWO AND THREE AND WE MADE A DECISION THAT ONE WAS THE WAS THE SELECTION THAT WAS MADE APPROPRIATELY FOLLOWING OUR PROCEDURES. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THROWING ROCKS AT THE PDI. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU ASK FOR YOU BEING THE BODY. ASK FOR A A LOOK AT THE PROJECTS AND GIVE US GIVE US THE FULL BODY, YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATIONS. THAT'S THAT'S NOT FOOLPROOF. YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO SAY, WELL, I WANT TO SEE TWO AND THREE. SO BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW, PDI COMMITTEE AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, ARE JUST SPINNING THEIR WHEELS.

OKAY. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, COUNCILMEMBER EMERY, THE WAY CITY SECRETARY SAID YOU WERE ON THAT. SO WHO WAS YOUR SECOND AND THIRD? I DON'T KNOW, SECOND AND THIRD. YOU WANT TO WAIT A MINUTE NOW I'M JUST ASKING. WAIT A MINUTE. THAT WAS DONE. HOW MANY YEARS AGO? HOW MANY YEARS AGO? SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF I MAY CLARIFY AND PROVIDE SOME CLARITY TO THE DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS GOING ON, ISSUING AN RFQ, GOING THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESS TAKES TIME. TO BE FAIR, TO BE EFFICIENT, WE IDENTIFY A POOL OF PROJECTS THAT ARE UPCOMING, AND WE ISSUE A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION. WE RANK THE CONSULTANTS AND WE HAVE A POOL OF CONSULTANTS THAT WE HAVE RANKED. I'M JUST GIVING YOU AN EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY FROM 1 TO 10. THEN WHAT WE LOOK AT IS THAT THAT LIST WAS PRESENTED TO THE PDI COMMITTEE. THEN IT'S CLEARLY IDENTIFIED IN THE IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PDI COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASSIGN A CONSULTANT TO A PROJECT BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS. NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LGA IS A FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN ROUNDABOUT DESIGN, AND THAT'S WHY WE ASSIGNED THAT. THERE ARE OTHER FIRMS THAT SPECIALIZES IN WATER, IN WASTEWATER, IN ROADWAY DESIGN. THAT'S HOW WE ASSIGN STAFF, ASSIGNS THE CONSULTANTS TO THOSE PROJECTS. WE NEGOTIATE A CONSULTANT CONTRACT WITH THEM.

AND THIS IS A LONG PROCESS. THIS TAKES ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3 TO 6 MONTHS. THIS IS ESTABLISHED IN THE CONSULTANT SELECTION POLICY. STAFF GOES THROUGH A DILIGENT SELECTION PROCESS. WE BOUNCE IT OFF OF THE PDI COMMITTEE, WE GET THE RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WE FINALLY PRESENT TO THIS GOVERNING BODY FOR AUTHORIZATIONS. OKAY. AND THE WHOLE SEVEN MEMBER COUNCIL GETS TO MAKE THE DECISION AND AUTHORIZE THE CONTRACT BEFORE MOVING FORWARD. THAT IS THE PROCESS THIS PROJECT HAS GONE THROUGH. BEFORE WE CAME AND PRESENT TO THIS ONE WHOLEHEARTEDLY UNDERSTAND. LET ME ASK YOU THE QUESTION IS WHY DO I KNOW WHO TWO AND THREE WAS? AND THE ANSWER IS WHEN WE WERE DOING THE EVALUATION, IT WAS OUR COMMITTEE OF APPROVAL, NOT APPROVAL, BUT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SELECT NUMBER ONE. OKAY, SO THERE'S NO REASON OTHER THAN WE LOOKED AT TWO AND THREE AND THE OTHERS. BUT ALL I CAN GUARANTEE IS THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, NUMBER ONE WAS THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRM TO DO

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I'M ASKING IS WHO WERE THE SECOND AND THIRD? IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION FOR ANY MEMBER TO MAKE A MOTION OTHER THAN LJ IS MY IS THE QUESTION THAT'S BEFORE US AND I DON'T SEE IT.

YOU'RE NOT PRESENTING THAT TO US. ALL YOU'RE PRESENTING IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND YOU'RE PRESENTING. PDI COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED IT ALSO. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT WHERE ARE THE OTHER CHOICES? SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THE COUNCIL DECISION AND COME BACK TO YOU. MAYOR, WE CERTAINLY AGREE THAT THIS BODY MAKES THE DECISION. BUT ONE MORE CLARIFYING ASPECT THAT I WANT TO SAY IS THE ROUNDABOUT DESIGN WAS ONLY NEGOTIATED WITH A CONSULTANT. AS I SAID, WE HAVE RANKED DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS. WE ASSIGN THE PROJECTS TO DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS. THIS ROUNDABOUT PROJECT WAS ASSIGNED TO THIS CONSULTANT AND WE HAVE ONLY NEGOTIATED WITH THIS CONSULTANT. WE HAVE NOT NEGOTIATED THIS ROUNDABOUT PROJECT WITH ANY OTHER CONSULTANTS. WE DO HAVE THE CONSULTANT LIST THAT WE HAVE RANKED. WE DO HAVE THAT LIST THAT WE RECOMMENDED TO THE PDI COMMITTEE AND BOUNCED OFF. THE PDI COMMITTEE WILL BE HAPPY TO PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL. OKAY, I NEED TO YIELD AND MOVE ON.

BUT SO IF YOU ONLY GIVE IT TO ONE PERSON, YOU'RE TELLING ME OUT OF 30 SOME PEOPLE THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE FIRM THAT CAN DO OR QUALIFY TO DO THE ROUNDABOUTS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN? IN OTHER WORDS, PER STATE LAW, WE ARE WE HAVE TO SELECT A CONSULTANT.

WHEN WE SELECT A CONSULTANT, WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THAT CONSULTANT. WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT CONSULTANT. OR WHEN WE TERMINATE THAT CONSULTANT, THEN WE CAN WE CAN START BEGINNING A NEGOTIATION WITH ANOTHER CONSULTANT. SIMULTANEOUSLY, STAFF CANNOT INDULGE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH TWO DESIGN CONSULTANTS ON A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, I YIELD BACK. MAYOR PRO TEM CLAUSEN, I SEE YOU ON THAT LIST. OR IS THIS THE OLD LIST? SO WHEN THE PDI COMMITTEE MET IN 2024 AND MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR LJ. RIGHT, RIGHT. PDI COMMITTEE APPROVED THE LIST OF CONSULTANTS THAT STAFF CAN NEGOTIATE WITH. OKAY.

IN TERMS OF ASSIGNING THE PROJECT, THAT WAS A STAFF DECISION. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. SO, MAYOR, IS YOUR CONCERN THAT ■LJ HAS IS BUSY AND THAT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT WITH ALL THAT THEY HAVE GOING ON? IS THAT WHAT YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS? AND YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OTHER OPTIONS TO LOOK AT, IS THAT I SAID IT EARLIER, THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT LJ IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN STILL RUNNING AROUND AND IT STILL HASN'T BEEN FINISHED THANKS TO OUR NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WHO WENT OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT ONE OF THEM, IS NOW FORCING THEIR HANDS TO RECONSTRUCT OR RE BREAK IT UP BECAUSE OF OF THE OF THE MESS THAT HAS BEEN DONE. AND I KNOW THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. SO YOU HAVE NOT JUST US. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT FORT BEND COUNTY, EVERY OTHER CITY THAT HAS. SO THIS WHOLE THING STARTED WITH THE TIME FRAME.

AND THE REASON FOR THE TIME FRAME IS BECAUSE OF SIENNA PARKWAY AND HOW WE ALL HEARD FROM SOCIAL MEDIA. EVERY DAY WE WE AS A BODY GETS ATTACKED FROM PEOPLE. THAT'S NOT I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT ISSUE, BUT MY POINT IS TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO NIGHT ROAD AND AT LEAST WE CAN GET THIS DONE. SO THIS WAY WE CAN SHOW A PATTERN IS WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.

OKAY, OKAY. I JUST WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE WHERE WHERE WITH THE CONCERN WAS. SO IF LJ HAS STATED THAT THEY ARE AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE MOVING ALONG, IF WE ARE, IF WE UTILIZE THEM AND THEY HAVE STATED THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS PROJECT ON AND MOVE IT, ALONG WITH THE TIMELINE THAT THEY

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MY QUESTION WILL BE FOR THE ATTORNEY. WE HEARD A LOT OF STUFF ON THIS EVENING. SO BASED ON THE MAYOR'S DESIRES, ARE WE IN NEED OF CHANGING THE POLICY? OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND REVIEW? BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION UNDER THE PDR COMMITTEE, WE WERE FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE PUT UP SERVICE PROVIDERS. SO IF HE'S WANTING SOMETHING DIFFERENT NOW, DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE POLICY? WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLICY, SEE WHERE REVISIONS NEED TO BE MADE. AND IF I MAY JUST CLARIFY. SO THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS THAT WHEN THE RFQ GOES OUT, ENGINEERING FIRMS WILL RESPOND AND WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, TEN ENGINEERING FIRMS RESPOND. AND THEN THOSE ARE THEIR RANK. WELL, NOT RANKED. BUT AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, THERE WOULD BE PROS AND CONS REGARDING THEIR QUALIFICATIONS. AND THEN AS PROJECTS COME UP, THEY WILL BE ASSIGNED TO ONE OF THE ENGINEERING FIRMS. SO THE ORIGINAL RFQ IS NOT FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BUT JUST FOR ENGINEERING NEEDS THAT THE CITY HAS. OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF I'M LITERALLY TRYING TO REMEMBER, HAVE WE EVER SEEN WHERE WE'VE HAD THIS RECOMMENDATION AND THEN A NUMBER TWO AND THEN A NUMBER THREE AT THIS LEVEL? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE PDI COMMITTEE FOR THIS RFQ, THOSE AGENDA ITEMS. AND SO IT JUST IT HAD A ALONG WITH A LIST OF OTHER ENGINEERING FIRMS. EXACTLY. AND SO WHEN IT GETS TO THIS POINT WHERE A CONTRACT IS BEING NEGOTIATED, IT'S WITH ONE FIRM. SO OUT OF THOSE ENGINEERING FIRMS WHO RESPONDED, THEN DIFFERENT PROJECTS WILL BE ASSIGNED TO DIFFERENT FIRMS. AND THEN WE WILL NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE. SO I'M NOT AWARE OF WHEN WE HAD A NEGOTIATED AND EXECUTED CONTRACT WITH MULTIPLE FIRMS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO BASED ON THOSE COMMENTS, I THINK WHEN I FIRST STARTED OUT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE ONE OF OUR CONCERNS HAD ALWAYS BEEN THE SPEED OF GETTING PROJECTS THROUGH. SO YOU YOU HAD HEARD THIS BODY AND YOU GUYS HAVE ACTED ON THAT BY MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE TIMELINES IN PLACE. SO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT OR NOT VOTING ON TONIGHT IS PURELY, PURELY FOR THE DESIGN. AND YOU'RE ESTIMATING THAT THAT IS EIGHT MONTHS LONG, THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM EIGHT MONTHS TO JUST DO DESIGN. SO WE'RE NOT TURNING DIRT OR DOING ANYTHING UNTIL MAYBE 2027. THAT IS CORRECT. WE WILL NOT BE TURNING ANY DIRT UNTIL 2027 BECAUSE WE GOT TO GO WITH THE DESIGN AND THERE IS A PROCESS FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE RIGHT OF THE NEEDS IN THE EARLIEST WE CAN GO FORWARD. WE'RE SHOOTING FOR TARGET IS EARLY PART OF 2027 FOR CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. SO CITY ATTORNEY, MY ONLY REQUEST ON TONIGHT IS THAT YOU DO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLICY. IF WE NEED TO MAKE AMENDMENTS AT THE POLICY, THEN THE PDR COMMITTEE, IF THE COMMITTEE SO DESIRES, WE WILL GO AND LOOK AT THE POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN LINE WITH THE REQUEST. YES. I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT WE DO CHANGE THE POLICY BECAUSE THIS CONVERSATION, IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF WE'RE NOT GOING WITH THE POLICY, THIS CONVERSATION SHOULD HAPPEN WELL BEFORE WE START NEGOTIATING AND EXECUTING THE CONTRACT. BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, ONCE WE START TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT, WE CAN'T

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HOW MANY PARCELS OF PROPERTY DO WE HAVE TO CLEAR THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD? DO NOT KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER, AT THIS POINT. I'M SORRY. WE DO NOT KNOW THAT AT THIS POINT. BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE SOME RIGHT OF WAY NEEDS. BUT WE DO NOT KNOW THE AMOUNT OF PARCELS THAT WE NEED AT THIS POINT THAT WE WILL KNOW EARLY ON IN THE DESIGN PROCESS ONCE WE ENGAGE THE CONSULTANT. SO WOULD THAT DICTATE THE TIMELINE OF. WELL, I THINK WE'LL SIMULTANEOUSLY PURSUE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTIES THAT'S NEEDED. SOME OF THEM MAY BE VOLUNTARY DONATIONS, SOME WE MAY HAVE TO PURSUE OTHER MEANS TO GET IT. SO ALTHOUGH WE WILL PURSUE ALL AT THE SAME TIME, IT MAY DEPEND WE MAY OBTAIN THOSE PARCELS AT DIFFERENT TIME DEPENDING ON THE METHOD THAT WE USE TO OBTAIN THOSE PARCELS. WELL, THE ONLY THING YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST TRYING TO TO, TO BRING UP WAS THAT WE DO HAVE AN EMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER ON THIS, AND OUR INTENT IS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS. AS SOON AS WE KNOW WHAT PARCELS WE NEED WILL COME IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AND PRESENT THAT NOT ONLY FOR THIS PROJECT. AND CITY MANAGER'S ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT WE BE HOLISTIC AND PROACTIVE AND LOOK AT ALL PROJECTS IN THE VICINITY, AND WE WILL PRESENT THOSE PARCELS TO COUNCIL, SEEK AUTHORIZATIONS TO OBTAIN THOSE PARCELS. AND THE SECOND POINT IS THAT EMINENT, YOU KNOW, HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET THROUGH THE EMINENT DOMAIN IS GOING TO HAVE A BEARING ON THE LENGTH OF THE DESIGN OR THE STARTING OF THE PROJECT. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I RECOGNIZE AND COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. WHEN COUNCILMEMBER BROWN WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT, MY QUESTION WAS YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE TO DIG UNDER THE GROUND AND PUT PIPES AND ALL THAT IN, IN THE PLANNING AND THAT INCLUDED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS AS WELL. THE DIGGING UP THE GROUND, PUTTING THE PIPELINES IN IN THE PROCESS. SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE EIGHT MONTHS PLANNING AND WITH THE TIMELINE OF COMPLETING THE ENTIRE PROJECT. THAT IS CORRECT IN THIS CORRIDOR. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE IN EXCESS OF $20 MILLION OF WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION PLAN. AND THE FIRST PROJECT THAT'S PLANNED IS THE WATER LINE PROJECT. AND WE WANT TO GET THE WATER LINE FIRST IN, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD A ROUTE, OR WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD A ROUNDABOUT AND TEAR THE ROAD. SO WE BUILD THE WATER LINE PROJECT AND THEN COMES THE ROUNDABOUT, THEN COMES THE ROADWAY. AND THAT'S THE WAY WE ARE SEQUENCING IT. SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PLANNING IN THE FIRST EIGHT MONTHS. YES, MA'AM. SO WE WON'T SEE THAT IS A SEPARATE PROJECT, BUT IT'S INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. SO WE WON'T BE SURPRISED. LIKE WE GOT TO STOP AND DO THIS PART. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I SIGNED UP TO SAY ONE MORE THING TO CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY. I WANT YOU TO JUST FROM WHAT I HEARD, UNLESS YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ACCORDING TO STATE LAW, THAT STAFF PICKS ONE QUALIFIED PERSON. WHAT I HEARD, UNLESS YOU CORRECT ME, I'M WRONG. THEN THAT GOES TO PDI, WHICH IS THREE PEOPLE THAT I APPOINT PDI COMMITTEE. RIGHT. AND THAT COMMITTEE GIVES THEM BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. OKAY. AND THEN YOU CAN ONLY YOU. SO AT THAT POINT YOU DEAL WITH THAT ONE FIRM. ONLY THEN WE CAN'T DEAL WITH ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT ONE FIRM. THEN YOU COMING BACK BEFORE THE ENTIRE BODY AND SAYING TO VOTE. SO WHO MADE THE DECISION? IT'S 2013. THERE WAS A COUNCIL CONSULTANT SELECTION POLICY. THEN COUNCIL ADOPTED THAT POLICY. AND WE ARE GOING BY THIS POLICY AND I DO HERE WITH THE CITY MANAGER, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO RELOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT WAS THE 2013 CONSULTANT SELECTION POLICY APPROVED BY THEN CITY COUNCIL. I UNDERSTAND IN THAT CAN SOMEONE PULL UP THAT POLICY? DOES THAT SAY PDI RECOMMENDS? AND THAT'S THE WAY WE GO? IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS? I CAN'T REMEMBER, WE'RE BETTING WHAT'S IN THE POLICY, BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GET THAT INFORMATION. BUT YOU GET WHAT I'M TRYING TO. ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I'M NOT MAKING AN ARGUMENT. I'M JUST SAYING WHEN WE'RE SAYING SOMETHING WRONG TO THE PUBLIC, WE NEED TO CORRECT THAT, BECAUSE THEN WHAT YOU SHOULD DO NOT BASED ON THREE PEOPLE IN A COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION TO GO FORWARD WITH ONE FIRM, WHICH CANNOT BE NEGOTIATED. THUS, AFTER THEN, THAT MEANS THE FOUR PEOPLE IN HERE NEVER MADE THAT CHOICE. SO IN HINDSIGHT, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IF YOU THAT'S THE STATE LAW, THEN YES, YOU CAN GO TO PDI, BUT THEN THAT SHOULD COME BEFORE THIS BODY. SO ALL SEVEN

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I AM CURRENTLY SEARCHING FOR IT, MAYOR. WE WILL FIND IT. OKAY, IF I COULD. YES. LOOKING FOR THAT. MY SUGGESTION IS IF YOU WANT ALL SEVEN AT THIS. DOES TO MAKE THE DECISION, GET RID OF THE PDI COMMITTEE. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT'S COMING OUT FROM THE THREE SUGGESTIONS, THEN AND YOU WANT THE FULL BODY TO MAKE THE DECISION, THEN YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE PDI COMMITTEE IS KIND OF A FRUITLESS EXERCISE. WHILE I DISAGREE AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY I DISAGREE, COUNCILMEMBER EMERY, THERE ARE SEVEN OF US AND ONLY THREE ARE GIVING DIRECTION, NOT FOR FOR THE WHOEVER IT IS TO MOVE FORWARD. RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I'M QUESTIONING.

I'M NOT SAYING THE PDI SHOULDN'T EXIST, BUT IF THE PDI GAVE YOU IF THE PDI GAVE YOU TO GO WITH US X, Y FIRM AND YOU'RE GOING WITH IT, THAT'S FINE. YOU'RE NEGOTIATING. BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO WAS NEVER ON THAT COMMITTEE CAN SAY, LET'S GO TO A AND B, WHY DON'T YOU GO TO A AND B? BECAUSE THEN IF UNLESS YOU HAD FOUR PEOPLE ON THAT PDI COMMITTEE, THEN THAT'S FINE.

THEN THE REST OF US HAVEN'T HEARD IT. YOU SEE THE DISCONNECT? WHAT? I'M I'M NOT SAYING WHAT YOU DID OR WHAT ANYBODY DID. ANYTHING IS WRONG. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE QUORUM. YOU CAN'T BASED OFF GO OFF OF SOMEONE WHO TOLD YOU THREE PEOPLE THAT JUST TOLD YOU TO GO AHEAD WITH LJ, WHERE FOUR MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL NEVER WAS IN THAT MEETING. BUT MAYOR, THAT'S IN THE POLICY. BUT. AND SO WE GOTTA CHANGE THE POLICY, RIGHT. WE HAVE TO. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I WOULD ASK THAT POLICY, BECAUSE WE'RE REFERRING TO A POLICY THAT NONE OF US HAVE SEEN IT. I MEAN, COUNCILMEMBER BROWN MARSHALL WASN'T EVEN ON THE COUNCIL IN 2013, IF THAT'S WHEN THAT POLICY WAS DESIGNED. I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS DESIGNED. I WASN'T HERE EITHER. I THINK THE TEAM IS TRYING TO PULL THAT POLICY. MAYOR, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN. I'M GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL. ALL I CAN ASSURE YOU IS WE FIND THE POLICY TO THE COURT, AND I WILL STAND MY WORD ON THAT ONE. THAT'S FINE. WE'LL GO TO MAYOR PRO TEM. YES. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND. RECOMMEND THAT WE PULL ITEM SIX D FOR FURTHER STAFF AND COUNCIL POLICY CONSIDERATION, AND BRING THIS FORTH AT A LATER TIME THAT WHEN WE ARE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH THE POLICY UPDATE. SECOND, AND A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM CLOUSER, CITY MANAGER, DID YOU HAVE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A POINT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AND NOT DELAYING THIS PROCESS TO TO NOW ADD A NEW POLICY TO IT WITHOUT DETERMINING WHO THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO BE, IS GOING TO FURTHER DELAY, BECAUSE IF IT'S SOMEONE OTHER THAN THIS, WHICH YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO SAY NO, THEN THAT MEANS RENEGOTIATING WITH WHOEVER THAT IS COMING UP WITH A CONTRACT FOR THAT WORK.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT IT ON RECORD THAT THIS WILL BE DELAYING US MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY. THAT'S IS THAT YOUR SECOND. THAT'S MY MY, MY MY MOTION STILL STANDS OKAY. IS THAT YOUR SECOND. OKAY. AND AND JUST A DISCUSSION. ANGEL, WHILE I AGREE WITH YOU, LET'S DO IT RIGHT. YES. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE DELAYING IT. I KNOW WE STARTED IT OFF WITH DELAY, BUT IF WE'RE TAKING A DECISION THAT NONE OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CANNOT GO TO ANOTHER FIRM, IF BY DEFAULT, BY NO CHOICE ON HERE, THEN I'M BASICALLY SAYING THEN YOU'RE BASED OFF OF THREE PEOPLE'S SUGGESTION THAT YOU WENT WITH THE FIRM, THAT YOU WENT WITH THE FIRM, AND NOW YOU HAVING THE REST OF US VOTE ON A FIRM THAT SHOULD HAVE CAME BEFORE US.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS DELAY IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. I'M NOT SAYING I WOULDN'T VOTE

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WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MAYOR. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT FROM 2013 UP TO 2025, CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN MAKING THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS. AND NOW TODAY, THOSE DECISIONS ARE ALL WRONG. I GUESS I'M LOST AND I'M CONFUSED. OKAY, WAIT, LET ME FINISH. I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THE POLICY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND WE NEED WE NEED TO REVISIT IT. AND AND MISS JONES, COUNCIL CITY MANAGER JONES, LET ME SAY IT REALLY LOUD FOR YOU. YOU I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, BUT LET ME MAKE IT BE VERY, VERY CLEAR. THIS WILL DELAY THIS PROJECT BY EXACTLY HOW LONG.

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US TO DEVELOP A NEW POLICY, GET IT BACK OVER OUT HERE TO WHOMEVER HAS TO REVIEW IT. TAKE PD OUT OF IT, PD OUT OF IT. WE DON'T WANT TO REVIEW IT AND JUST BRING IT TO THE SEVEN BODIES. HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE? SO I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE POINT HERE.

THE PD, WE HAVE AN RFQ. THAT WAS A POOL OF ENGINEER FIRMS WERE SELECTED BACK IN 2023. SO EVEN IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE THE PD FROM THERE, FROM THAT WE STILL HAVE THE SAME POOL OF FIRMS IN OUR POCKET. SO EVEN IF YOU REMOVE THE POLICY, IT'S STILL THE SAME AMOUNT OF FIRMS. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO ARE THOSE FIRMS, WE COULD CERTAINLY SHARE THOSE. IF YOU IF YOU WANT US TO GO FOR A NEW RFQ, THAT IS A MUCH LONGER PROCESS BECAUSE JUST PLEASE JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO DEVELOP A NEW POLICY, NOT VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT AND DEVELOP A NEW POLICY, THEN COME BACK AND REVOTE ON THIS. HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO TAKE? AT LEAST THREE MONTHS. PROBABLY SIX MONTHS. OKAY. SO 3 TO 6 MONTHS.

THAT WILL DELAY WHILE WE GET A NEW POLICY. NO PROBLEM. THEN WE PUT IT BACK OUT FOR WHATEVER THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROCESS WILL BE. IF I MAY CLARIFY, CHANGING THE POLICY AND ADOPTING THE POLICY, PROBABLY THREE MONTHS IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND PUT IT ON THE STREET AGAIN AND GO THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESS ANOTHER THREE MONTHS. SO IN MY ESTIMATE, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD DELAY US BY ABOUT SIX MONTHS OR MORE. OKAY. GRAND TOTAL SIX MONTHS. OKAY. SO AND THEN THAT PUSHES US BACK FROM A 2027 START DATE OF TURNING DIRT AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT THAT'S THE MOTION I GOT. COUNCILMEMBER RILEY, I JUST REALLY NEED SOME CLARIFICATION. THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT DATES THROWN OUT THERE ABOUT THE PD I MET ON THIS PROJECT IN 2023 AND THEN 2024. WHEN, WHEN WAS THIS BROUGHT TO PD COMMITTEE? AND WHO WAS ACTUALLY ON THAT COMMITTEE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME TO DECIDE? BECAUSE IF YOU WERE IN THAT MEETING, DO YOU RECALL WHO WAS? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT TIME IN FRONT OF ME, COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT TO MY FROM MY RECOLLECTION, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WERE ON IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER MARSHALL, COUNCILMEMBER EMERY AND FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER BOWEN. WAS THIS IN 23 OR 24? PROBABLY LATE 23 OR EARLY 24. OKAY. AND THEN MY OTHER I HAVE A ONE STATEMENT AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THE 2025 AND THE 2026 COUNCIL COMMITTEE. LIST, AND THERE WAS NO PD COMMITTEE LISTED ON THE 2025, NOR ON THE 2026 COUNCIL COMMITTEE LIST THAT THE CITY SECRETARY PROVIDED. SO THERE WAS, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED MY NAME, THAT I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE AND I'M LIKE, THERE'S NOT EVEN THAT ON MY. THAT IS CORRECT. SO IN THE LIST THAT I SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THERE IS A FINANCE AND SERVICES SLASH PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND SO THAT WAS SENT OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO LET THEM ALL KNOW THAT YOU ALL KNOW WHO WHAT COMMITTEES YOU'RE ON AND SO ON.

THAT NEWLY CREATED REVISED COMMITTEE, AGAIN, IS CHAIR BROWN MARSHALL AND MEMBERS O'DEKIRK AND THEN YOURSELF. WAS THIS COMMITTEE ALSO IN EFFECT IN 2025? BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ON THAT LIST EITHER FOR 2025. SO FOR 2025, THE COMMITTEE WAS JUST A STANDALONE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. AND AT THAT TIME IN

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AND TO BE ALL FAIR, TOWARDS THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL, BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE MEMBERS FROM THAT COMMUNITY ARE NO LONGER HERE. THE REST OF THE OTHER NEW MEMBERS THAT HAVE JOINED US SINCE THEN HAVE NOT HEARD THIS. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE STAFF BRINGS THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BACK AT AN UPCOMING, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE MEETING, THAT THE ENTIRE BODY OF COUNCIL CAN HEAR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WERE AVAILABLE, AND ALLOW US TO MAKE A DECISION AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME AS ONE BODY. AS FAR AS THE POLICY YOU CAN PULL THAT MAKE THAT OTHER MOTION, HOWEVER, THAT I MEAN, THINGS THINGS ARE GOING TO COME UP. WE HAVE OUR PRIORITIES. WE DECIDED WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, BUT THINGS WILL COME UP AS THEY.

BUT I'M JUST HAPPY THAT WE DO HAVE PRIORITIES. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH IF THERE ARE PROJECTS AFTER PROJECTS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS LONG OVERDUE FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS. SO I AM GOING TO STILL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT, THAT THAT THE POLICY IS, IS, IS LOOKED AT WITHIN THE LAST, WITHIN THE NEXT, WHATEVER THE, THE DEADLINE THAT YOU SAID, BECAUSE THE PROJECTS ARE JUST GOING TO KEEP, KEEP COMING AND THIS AND THIS IS A PRIORITY THIS THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY. SO IT IS IT IS A PRIORITY. AND WE YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT. SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2013. SO WHAT MOTION DO YOU HAVE ON THE TABLE? MAYOR PRO TEM COUNSELOR, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO THE RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW THE POLICY, MAKE RECOMMENDED CHANGES WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM YOUR ACTUAL MOTION. AND SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MOTION WAS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS APPROVAL. AND THEN THE THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION. AND THEN A SEPARATE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR STAFF TO REVIEW THE POLICY AND THEN BRING FORTH ANY KIND OF RECOMMENDED EDITS OR CHANGES TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AT THE APRIL 1ST MEETING. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND? OKAY, SO I'M STILL IN THE QUEUE. WE HAVE A SECOND. I DO WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. IS THE FACT THAT CAN ANYONE SHOW ANY MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL WHAT THE CURRENT POLICY IS? RIGHT NOW? OKAY. CAN YOU GIVE HIM A FEW MINUTES? I AM STILL SEARCHING FOR IT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER MAY KNOW WHERE IT IS. I MIGHT NOT JUST HAVE ACCESS TO IT, BUT I AM CURRENTLY SEARCHING FOR IT. OKAY, SO YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION.

COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE OPTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM TILL LATER IN THE MEETING TO GIVE STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO FIND THE CRYSTAL. WHAT I'M SAYING IS I GET THE LAST MOTION THAT WAS GIVEN. I'M ASKING IS WHAT IS THE CURRENT POLICY BESIDES OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TELLING US WHAT THE POLICY IS? CAN THIS BODY LOOK AT WHAT THE CURRENT POLICY IS? SO THIS WAY, THAT LAST MOTION WAS GIVEN. PEOPLE COULD VOTE. UNLESS IF SOMEBODY IN HERE CAN TELL ME EXACTLY THE LANGUAGE THAT'S WRITTEN IN THAT POLICY, BECAUSE I FOR SURE KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON HAS JUST GOT HERE. SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THAT POLICY IS. AND MYSELF AND COUNCILMEMBER EMERY WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WAS HERE IN A COUNCIL SEAT BACK IN 2013. IF YOU SAY THAT THIS POLICY WAS ORIGINATED IN 2013, AND I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT IS WRITTEN ON THERE. SO I'M JUST ASKING IF SOMEBODY HAS THAT POLICY. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS MOTION THAT JUST PRESENTED, BUT WHAT IS IT WRITTEN IN THE POLICY? WE HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT'S THE POLICY? AND THE QUESTION ON THE POLICY THAT I HAVE IS THAT ONCE THE PDI RECOMMENDS, THAT'S WHERE WE GO, IS WHAT YOU CLEARLY INDICATED. THAT'S IN THE CURRENT POLICY. CORRECT. SO I'M HERE AT THE PODIUM. I CAN'T PULL THE POLICY. IF YOU GIVE ME 15 MINUTES, I CAN GET THE POLICY, GIVE YOU A HARD COPY, EMAIL IT. I HAVE THAT IN MY COMPUTER NOW, I'VE BEEN INTERPRETING THIS POLICY SINCE 2017. THIS IS NOT MY FIRST RODEO. I'VE GOTTEN 20 TO 30 PROJECTS IN FRONT OF THIS BODY. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE HAVE FOLLOWED THE POLICY TO THE CODE.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. OKAY, I NEVER SAID THAT. I DON'T DOUBT YOUR CALL, BUT YOUR YOUR OBJECTIONS OR YOUR YOUR SOUND OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. BUT MY QUESTION IS, THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL HAS NOT SEEN THE POLICY NOT TO QUESTION WHETHER YOU'RE RIGHT OR YOU'RE WRONG.

IT WAS NEVER THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS, DO WE KNOW WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT POLICY, IF THAT

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I THINK WE NEED TO GET ON ONE ACCORD WITH THIS BEFORE WE MAKE A FULL OUT VOTE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, LIKE I SAID, I'M PULLING MY SECOND BECAUSE THERE'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH CONFUSION RIGHT NOW AND WE NEED TO GET BACK SITUATED. SO OF COURSE I'M GOING TO PULL MY SECOND. OKAY. HEARING NO OTHER SECOND. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER EMERY. YEAH. IS THAT I GUESS MY ASK, IS THAT CLEAR. SOME OF THEM THAT PEOPLE SPEAK BECAUSE IT'S CONFUSION HERE OKAY. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. SORRY. MY ASK IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE THE POLICY, LET'S PUT SOMETHING IN THERE AS TO WHAT THE GOALS OF THE, OF THE PDI COMMITTEE IS. WHAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITIES? YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, IT WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE RIGHT IN FARM AND IN AND IN THE, THE APPROVAL AND SELECTION PROCESS. BUT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND GO FURTHER THAN THAT AND LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND AND THIRD QUALIFIED VENDOR. SO AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE COMMITTEES, THE MAYOR'S COMMITTEES, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AND WHAT RESULTS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR COMING OUT OF THE PDI COMMITTEE OR ANY OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES. RIGHT. SO I PUT MYSELF ON THE QUEUE. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER EMERY. THREE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO GO FORWARD WITH ANYTHING. IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE FOR. RIGHT? SO IF THAT POLICY STATES THAT THREE, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THREE, BECAUSE I'VE SERVED FROM 2009 TO 2015. EVEN THEN, ALL EACH COMMITTEES WERE THREE BECAUSE OF THE QUORUM. IF THAT'S THE CASE, NO STAFF. I DON'T CARE WHICH COMMITTEE IT IS, SHOULD TAKE DIRECTION FROM THREE PEOPLE AND GO WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO WITH IT, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE ENTIRE BODY AND SAY, WELL, THAT'S BEEN THE POLICY. HOW COULD YOU DO THAT IN IN A CITY GOVERNMENT? BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THAT. AND THIS IS WHY, ANGEL, WHEN THAT PARTICULAR ENGINEERING FIRM HAD AN ISSUE WITH BEING NUMBER 3 OR 4 AND THEN WE PICKED OR SOMEHOW STAFF PICKED NUMBER 16, I FORGOT WHAT

[01:15:02]

SECOND IS THE MOTION. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO TABLE. IT WAS THEN AMENDED TO APPROVE WITH SOME QUALIFIERS IN THERE. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. THAT WAS FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO TABLE. YES. AND THERE WAS NOT A SECOND ON THE MOTION TO AMEND. SO SO IF WE VOTE ON THIS PROJECT, IT'LL TAKE A COUPLE OF SOUND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS TO COME BACK WITH THE POLICY. YOU ALL WILL HAVE TO GO BACK OUT FOR AN RFP, AND THAT WILL DELAY BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS THREE MONTHS DELAY, BUT THEN THAT WILL DELAY THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. FOR HOW LONG? WELL, I MEAN, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION. WE JUST DID NOT COME TO THIS MEETING PREPARED WITH IT. SO IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT WHEN WE GO BACK AND RECOMMEND CHANGING THE POLICY, THEN WE WOULD PUT FORTH THE ENTIRE LIST OF ALL THE QUALIFIED CONTRACTORS, AND THEN WE WOULD LIST THEIR QUALIFICATIONS IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT QUALIFICATIONS. AND IT COULD BE THAT YOU END UP IN THE SAME PLACE THAT WE ARE HERE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT WOULD BE BY THE APRIL 1ST MEETING, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE QUALIFICATIONS OF ALL THE QUALIFIED RESPONDERS THAT WE HAD TO THE RFP AND LINED THAT UP. AND IF YOU IF YOU THINK THAT THAT'S SUFFICIENT AND YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AT THAT POINT. IF NOT, THEN WE WE WOULD NEED TO GO OUT FOR ANOTHER RFP. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU TACK ON THE 3 TO 6 MONTHS FOR THAT PROCESS. OKAY. OKAY. MY MOTION STILL STANDS. MOTION. MOTION. MONICA MONICA, CAN YOU READ THE MOTION AGAIN? SO THE MOTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH LGAT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT HENRY WATTS AND NIGHT ROAD, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS, THE POLICY WILL BE REVIEWED. I PUT THEIR MOTIONS IN. NO, I PUT MYSELF BACK IN AGAIN. SO YOU'RE FINE AGAIN. YOU'RE NOT SHOWING THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHAT THAT POLICY IS.

[01:20:06]

NOW, IF YOU WANT, I CAN AMEND IT TO TO MOVE IT SO YOU CAN GET. SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR EYES ON THIS. BUT THEY NEED TIME OKAY. KEEP THE MOTION THE WAY IT IS AND I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT OKAY? OKAY. SO MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT YOUR MOTION IN THE QUEUE, PLEASE? JUST FOR OUR TO APPROVE APPROVE THIS PROJECT. WHO WAS THE SECOND? SECOND IS MEMBER EMERY. EMERY? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ME. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU STATE THE MOTION? SO SERIOUS BECAUSE. THE MOTION IS AS IT STANDS, TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH LJA. AS IS PRESENTED. AND THAT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THAT RECOMMENDATION AND STAFF'S

[(e) Consideration and Possible Action- Authorize the Mayor to execute an a...]

[(a) Consideration and Possible Action - Appointments to the TIRZ Board #3,...]

MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM. KLAUS, IS THAT YOUR SECOND? YES. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER RILEY. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I KNOW THAT WE SPOKE WITH MR. JACKSON, BUT THE GENTLEMAN, JERRY, WAS HE NOTIFIED IN REGARDS TO THIS APPOINTMENT? YES. HE ORIGINALLY APPLIED FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WITH CONVERSATION WITH HIM, HE AGREED AND WANTED TO SERVE ON TERMS NUMBER THREE. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER BROWN MARSHALL, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM CLAUSER SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. MEMBER. EMERY. MEMBER O'DEKIRK. EMERY. MEMBER. EMERY. THANK YOU. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, OUR RESOLUTIONS EIGHT A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION A RESOLUTION TO APPLY FOR AND ACCEPT GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO A STEP CLICK IT OR TICKET AND STEP OPERATIONS. SLOWDOWN PROGRAMS.

[(b) Consideration and Possible Action - Appointments to the Parks Board.]

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OH, IT'S ON US. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE IT ON THIS. DO YOU HAVE IT? YEAH, IT'S ON OUR AGENDA. WE HAVE WE HAVE DIFFERENT SCRIPTS AND THAT'S HOW THEY GAVE US. SO THAT'S WHY HE MISSED IT. AND HE WAS SKIPPING. OKAY. CAN YOU TELL SOMEBODY ELSE TO PLEASE. PULL THAT TO THE BACK. THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT ON. OH. IS THERE ANYONE YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT. SO CAN WE WE NEED TO GO BACK TO SEVEN B, DON'T WE. YES OKAY. YES. WE'RE ON THE ITEM SEVEN B IS THERE A MOTION FROM ANYONE? YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM CITY SECRETARY. FIRST CITY SECRETARY. GO AHEAD. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM SEVEN B TO AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH IS ITEM. NINE. OKAY. IS THAT. NO, THAT'S THAT'S NOT MY. CAN WE CLEAR THE QUEUE PLEASE. WHAT IS WHAT IS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS TO DISCUSS THE DUTIES OF THE CITY SECRETARY. AND WE'RE MOVING SEVEN B TO AFTER. CAN WE MOVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION UP? OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR.

COUNCILMEMBER O'DEKIRK SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. CAN YOU STATE WHAT THIS MOTION IS? THIS MOTION WOULD BE TO MOVE ITEM SEVEN B TO AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH IS ITEM NINE. REMEMBER, EMERY. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 1. MAYOR

[9. CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[10. RECONVENE]

IS THERE A MOTION? COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT. APPOINT PAM ANDREWS. POSITION THREE. DIANE GILTNER I MIGHT BE SAYING THE WRONG POSITION SEVEN LAWRENCE TURNER, POSITION NINE AND BRUCE BATSON POSITION FIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE'S BEEN A SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER RILEY. THAT'S YOUR SECOND. CORRECT. OKAY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ITEM

[(a) Consider and Possible Action - Resolutions to apply for and accept gra...]

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GOOD EVENING. REQUESTING TO APPLY FOR THE TEX DOT. CLICK IT OR TICKET AND OPERATION SLOWDOWN GRANTS. THESE ARE BOTH TWO WEEK PERIOD GRANTS. ONE OPERATION CLICK IT OR TICKET IS IN MAY AND OPERATION SLOWDOWN IS IN JULY FOR BOTH OF THEM. TWO WEEKS. WE'RE REQUESTING THE SAME AMOUNT FOR BOTH. THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS $3,745. THE MATCH AMOUNT IS $749. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT EITHER GRANT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BROWN. MARSHALL, IS THAT YOUR MOTION? YES, IT IS. COUNCILMEMBER RIEMER, IS THAT YOUR SECOND? YES, IT IS. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. ITEM 8BA RESOLUTION OF A RESOLUTION OF

[(b) Consideration and Possible Action - A resolution to apply for and acce...]

IT IS A TWO YEAR GRANT WITH NO MATCH FOR A TOTAL OF 300,000. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS GRANT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER RILEY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. ALL RIGHT I'M IN THE QUEUE. RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER RILEY MONICA, WHICH WHICH RESOLUTION? DID YOU READ? THE ONE I OR EIGHT. SEE, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, WHICH IS ON AC. YES. SO THIS ONE WAS FOR WE'RE ON EIGHT B SO IT IS FOR EIGHT B.

THIS IS THE LAW. IT'S CALLED LEPA IS THE ACRONYM FOR IT. IT'S THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TERRORISM PREVENTION ACTIVITIES GRANT OKAY. AND MOST OF THE GRANTS GO THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR. OKAY. THERE ARE TWO OF US WITH STATE HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS TONIGHT. SO OKAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S BEEN A LOT GOING ON TONIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. MY MOTION STILL STANDS. ALL RIGHT. AND COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON, YOUR SECOND STILL STAYS. AND SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.

[(c) Consideration and Possible Action – A resolution authorizing city staf...]

STATE HOMELAND SECURITY PROGRAM GRANT, DESIGNATING THE AUTHORIZED OFFICIAL AND FINANCIAL OFFICER AND CONTAINING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATED THERETO. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SHAMIKA JEWETT, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE ARE ALSO SEEKING APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR THE STATE HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF 130,000 WILL BE LOOKING AT REQUESTING, IF APPROVED, A BARRICADE SYSTEM THAT WOULD ENHANCE SAFETY AT OUR AT ALL OF OUR PUBLIC EVENTS FOR CROWD CONTROL AND OUR ACTIVITIES THAT WE HOST THROUGHOUT THE CITY. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER BROWN MARSHALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. HI. IS THERE A MATCH? NO, IT'S NO MATCH.

SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER RILEY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER EMERY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. MEMBER BROWN.

MOTION. I'M SORRY. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO ITEM NINE.

AND THEN ITEM 11 IS TO ADJOURN WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS AND HEARING. NO OBJECTIONS. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED A

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