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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS MONDAY, APRIL 6TH. WE'LL NOW CALL THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER AT 5 P.M. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ROLL CALL. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNCIL. ITEM NUMBER THREE, OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE SECRETARY. DO WE HAVE ANYONE RECEIVE PUBLIC
[(a) Discussion - Receive presentation on proposed ordinances, including el...]
COMMENT REQUESTED ON THE AGENDA? NO, MR. MAYOR, WE DO NOT. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR A DISCUSSION TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON PROPOSED ORDINANCES, INCLUDING ELECTRIC VEHICLES, RENTAL REGULATIONS, SHORT TERM, LONG TERM AND SENIOR HOUSING AND INACTIVE BUILDING PERMIT REGULATIONS. ENJOYS. I MEAN, MONICA. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS REALLY TO OBTAIN DIRECTION FROM YOU REGARDING THE THREE PROPOSED ORDINANCES. THESE PROPOSED ORDINANCES WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE PRESENTED AT THE RETREAT IN FEBRUARY, BUT SINCE WE RAN OUT OF TIME, I'M PRESENTING THEM TODAY. SO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE PRESENTATIONS, I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE BY COUNCIL. AND SO AS I'M PRESENTING THE THE PROVISIONS OF EACH ORDINANCE, THESE ARE ITEMS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ON THE EV CHARGING.AND THAT IS WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD AND IF YES, WHETHER TO INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OR TO SIMPLY RELY ON THE HOA'S. SO REGARDING THE EV CHARGING PROPOSED PROVISIONS, THERE ARE NO CURRENT CITY REGULATIONS FOR CHARGING STATIONS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
THERE ARE SOME MINIMAL STATE REGULATIONS REGARDING RATES AND REGARDING THE TYPES OF PLUGS THAT HAVE TO BE USED. BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE NO CITY CODES RELATED TO THESE STATIONS. AND SO FOR THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT. SO I'M SORRY. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE TO PROVIDE UNIFORM UNIFORM DESIGN STANDARDS AS WELL AS OTHER REGULATIONS. SO ONE OF THE REGULATIONS WOULD BE AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT. AND SO THERE WOULD NEED TO BE AN APPLICATION THAT SPECIFIES THE LOCATION AS WELL AS THE VOLTAGE AND AMP, AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION REQUIRED BY THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. THERE IS ALSO A PARKING INCENTIVE THAT IF A FACILITY OR BUSINESS REQUIRES TEN OR MORE PARKING SPACES, THE EV ONLY SPACES WOULD ACTUALLY COUNT TOWARDS THOSE TEN OR MORE PARKING SPACES. SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE DESIGNATED FOR EV, THE EV CHARGING STATION COMPANY AND PROPERTY OWNER WILL NOT BE PENALIZED AS LONG AS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EV STATIONS IS LESS THAN 10% OF THE TOTAL REQUIRED SPACES. NOW, THERE ARE DESIGN CRITERIA THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE PROVISIONS OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, AND SO THE PARKING SPACE SIZE WOULD BE THOSE THAT ARE IN SECTION 12 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. SO FOR A SINGLE LINE IT WOULD BE NINE FEET BY 18FT. FOR A DOUBLE LINE IT WOULD BE EIGHT AND A HALF BY 18FT. THERE ARE ALSO REQUIREMENTS FOR OUTLETS AND CONNECTORS THAT HAVE TO BE 36 TO 48IN OFF THE GROUND, SO IT WOULD BE EASIER TO CONNECT TO A VEHICLE. ALSO, FOR THE COURT, IT WOULD EITHER HAVE TO BE RETRACTABLE OR THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A PLACE TO HANG THE CORD. SO WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE TRIPPING OVER IT, OR THERE ARE THOSE CORDS BEING PULLED. THERE WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE IF THE STATION IS PERPENDICULAR OR ANGULAR TO THE PARKING SPACE, THEN THERE WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE LIKE A A CONCRETE WHEEL STOP OR SOME CONCRETE BOLLARDS TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM RUNNING INTO THESE CHARGING STATIONS AND DAMAGING THEM. IF THEY HAVE SPEAKERS LIKE SOME GAS STATIONS DO, WHERE THEY HAVE ADS OR NEWS BREAKS, THEN THOSE NOISE RESTRICTIONS IN THE ALREADY IN THE CITY CODE WOULD ALSO APPLY TO THESE EV CHARGING STATIONS. THERE WOULD BE PERIODIC INSPECTIONS FOR NONRESIDENTIAL USE. THEY CANNOT BE AN. SO MAINLY FOR COMMERCIAL USE. THEY CANNOT BE 100FT OF A RESIDENTIAL LOT LINE. AND THEN FOR THE DESIGN, IT WOULD NEED TO BE INTEGRATED ALREADY TO KIND OF TO THE SITE PLAN. AND SO IT ALSO CANNOT OBSTRUCT PEDESTRIAN OR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S REALLY FOR COMMERCIAL. NOW THE QUESTION WITH RESIDENTIAL IS IF COUNCIL DESIRES ANY KIND OF SCREENING REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS FENCING, IN WHICH CASE THEN THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE FENCING REGULATIONS IN THE CITY CODE. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. THERE'S SOME 1 OR 2 EMAILS THAT I'VE RECEIVED OR SHARED BY
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OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS OF PEOPLE PUTTING THESE CHARGING STATIONS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR, LIKE YOUR DOORBELL RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. AND I KNOW THAT THEY COME TO THE MOST OF THEM. YOU SEE IT OUT OF THE GARAGE BECAUSE YOUR ELECTRICAL PANEL IS IN THE GARAGE OR RIGHT ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE GARAGE. I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE IN FRONT OF YOUR LIKE WHERE YOU WALK INTO THE HOUSE. LITERALLY THE FIRST THING YOU SEE YOU SHOULD SEE IS DOORBELL. BUT THEY HAVE THESE ON THE, ON THE GARAGE OPPOSING. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THOSE ARE. IF THEY'RE, IF THERE'S AN ELECTRICAL PANEL, I MEAN, THEY'RE PULLING IT FROM THE ELECTRICAL PANEL AND BRINGING IT OUT THERE TO CHARGING IT, BUT THAT JUST DOESN'T LOOK APPEALING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU HAVE THESE SITTING AT THE FRONT DOOR. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU GUYS GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE AND TRYING TO SEE THAT IF IF THAT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S A STANDARD, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE REGULATED WHERE YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF IT. AND I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE STILL HAVE IT IN THE GARAGE, BUT WHEN THEY CLOSE THE GARAGE DOOR, THE THE WIRE IS KIND OF RUNNING THROUGH THE SIDE OF IT, WHICH IS FINE. AND MOST OF THE HOMES HAVE IT ON THE ON THE SIDE OF THE GARAGE DOOR, WHICH YOU DON'T SEE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN THEY BRING IT UP AND, AND TRY TO CHARGE IT. SO, SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M TALKING MORE FOR RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? NOT, NOT BUSINESSES. SO THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENTS AND I'M GOING TO YIELD BACK AND RECOGNIZE. COUNCILMEMBER RILEY.THANK YOU MAYOR. MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO THE DESIGN CRITERIA FOR THE NON RESIDENTIAL ONES, ARE WE ABLE TO DICTATE HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DESIGNED AND HOW SOME OF THESE COULD BE OWNED BY SHELL OR ANOTHER INDEPENDENT COMPANY OR WHATNOT? SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DESIGN CRITERIA, CAN YOU BREAK THAT DOWN? YES. SO RIGHT NOW WE JUST KIND OF HAVE IT THAT IT WOULD KIND OF BE PART ALREADY OF THE SITE. AND SO IF IT'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTED, THEN IT WOULD KIND OF BLEND IN INTO WHATEVER MASONRY COLOR SCHEME, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IF YOU WANTED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC REGARDING THEM ALL LOOKING A CERTAIN WAY, WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER THAT REGARDING THE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT MAY HAVE DIFFERENT KIND OF STRUCTURAL OR MECHANICAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU WOULD WANT TO GO INTO THAT DIRECTION WITH MAKING IT MORE UNIFORM, WE CAN DISCUSS PUTTING THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE. YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE UNIFORM. I THINK IT SHOULD BE UNIQUE TO EACH EACH COMPANY'S BRANDING, BUT IT SHOULD BE LAID OUT WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PERMITTING AND PLANNING SO THAT THE STAFF CAN SEE WHAT IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S APPEALING. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WORKS AS FAR AS BEAUTIFICATION IN OUR CITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. MY OTHER QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO, ARE WE ABLE TO LIMIT HOW MANY OR AT A CERTAIN SPECIFIC LOCATION? WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THAT IN THERE, BUT WE CAN MAYBE CREATE SOME LIMITATIONS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE OR HOW BIG THE COMPLEX IS. AND THEN JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY. SO MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE DESIRING IS KIND OF LIKE FOR AT LEAST THE DESIGN, LIKE A, A MOCK UP TO BE SUBMITTED WITH THEIR APPLICATION. YES. OKAY. YES. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THE LIMITATION OF HOW MANY. SO THAT PARKING SPACES ARE NOT BEING TAKEN UP WHERE THEY COULD BE NEEDED WHEN IT'S A PART OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THAT PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION OF THAT BUSINESS. SAY, FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE IS, WE'LL USE THE THE CITY, THE MISSOURI CITY LIBRARY OVER THERE. WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST, THEY HAD X AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES THAT WERE LOOKING TO BE ALLOTTED FOR EV STATIONS. BUT WHEN THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION WAS DONE AND THE PERMITS WERE SUBMITTED FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE LOCATION, THEY HAVE TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES FOR THAT LOCATION. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THERE SHOULD BE A LIMIT OF HOW MANY CAN BE, WHERE IT DOES NOT REMOVE THE CRITERIA OF HOW MANY PARKING SPACES, THAT PARTICULAR STRIP CENTER OR THAT SITE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO HAVE. AND I'M SORRY. SO THERE IS A LIMITATION OF 10% OF THE ALLOTTED SPACES, ONLY 10%. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SORRY. YOU COULD HAVE SOLVED ALL THAT IN THE BEGINNING. SORRY. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER BROWN. THANK YOU. SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IN REGARDS
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TO THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF IT. I'M SORRY. OKAY. INSIDE OF THE ORDINANCE, WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EVALUATE THE LOCATION BEFORE THEY JUST INSTALL IT? OR ARE WE SAYING YOU CAN PUT IT ANYWHERE YOU WANT TO KNOW? SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO CONSIDER IS THE LOCATION. IS THE LOCATION OKAY. AND WILL, COULD WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY INSIDE OF OUR ORDINANCE FOR CONDEMNATION FOR ANYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? AND THE REASON WHY I ASK IS I SAW THAT IN SOME OF THE OTHER ORDINANCES THAT I READ ACROSS VARIOUS CITIES. THEY MADE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO CONDEMN THEM IF THEY HAD TO. ESPECIALLY IF ONE GETS ABANDONED, THEY GO AWAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE ARE SOME STATE REGULATIONS ALREADY THAT IF YOU KNOW, SOMEONE STRIKES ONE OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS IN THEIR VEHICLE, THEN THEY CAN'T JUST LEAVE THE KIND OF DEFUNCT OR DAMAGED CHARGING STATION THERE. THEY DO HAVE. OF THESE EV STATIONS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AS.MAKE THAT PART OF IT SO THAT THERE IS NO MISUNDERSTANDING. AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO THE RESIDENTIAL USER, FOR MY KIDS, I'M WORKING FOR GIVE ME GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
OKAY. SO I HAVE TO GO AHEAD. OH, OKAY. NO IT IS OKAY. OKAY, GOOD. SO WITH THE RESIDENTIAL USE, I BROUGHT THIS TO THE CITY'S ATTENTION ALMOST PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO BECAUSE THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WHERE OWNERS ARE PLACING THESE ON THEIR PORCH. AND I SHARED A COUPLE OF PHOTOGRAPHS WITH THE CITY. AND WHAT WAS EXTREMELY STRIKING IS THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS NOT REGULATED HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS AS OF YET TO BE ABLE TO EVEN REGULATE THESE THINGS. SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET SOME REGULATIONS PUT IN PLACE WHILE WE WAIT ON THE LEGISLATURE TO COME FORWARD WITH EV FOR HOA'S. BUT WHEN I DRIVE AROUND AND I SEE THEM, IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, THE CORDS ARE EVERYWHERE. THEY'RE JUST HANGING ALL OVER THE DRIVEWAYS. AND AND I WOULD PREFER SCREENING, NOT NECESSARILY FENCING, BUT EVEN IF IT'S GARAGE KEPT JUST, YOU KNOW, AND HEY, PUT YOUR CARD AWAY WHEN YOU'RE DONE JUST TO KEEP THE SUBDIVISIONS NEAT. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. ACTUALLY, THAT WAS MY COMMENT IN ABOUT RESIDENTIAL THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED. ALSO ARE WE GOING TO WORK WITH THE HOA TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND LEGALLY WHAT THEY CAN HAVE THEIR HOMEOWNERS DO AND CANNOT HAVE THEM DO? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME AREAS ARE REALLY PICKY HOW THE AREAS LOOK AND THEY WANT TO TELL HOMEOWNER WHAT TO DO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT TO TELL THEIR HOMEOWNERS, SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY HOW WHERE TO PUT EVERYTHING FOR IN THEIR STATIONS. BECAUSE I WANTED TO NOT TO BE AN EYESORE EITHER. SO THE HOA WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN REGULATIONS THAT THEY CAN IMPLEMENT REGARDING THESE RESTRICTIONS. THE CITY CODE, IF THIS WERE TO TO BE APPROVED, WOULD HAVE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS OR COULD POSSIBLY HAVE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS. BUT THE HOA SHOULD FOLLOW CITY ORDINANCES AS WELL. WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY. WELL, THEY WOULD ACCORDING TO. IF WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAY, CAN WE. THE RESIDENTS WILL STILL NEED TO FOLLOW THE CITY CODE IF IT'S ENACTED. BUT IF WE HAD TO, CAN WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING SO THE HOA WOULD KNOW, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES, IS WHAT THE CITY REQUIRES, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR. SO ALONG THE LINES OF I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE FINE. SO ALONG THE LINES OF NOTIFICATION OR PUBLIC OUTREACH OR MAYBE ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS TO HOA MEETINGS, I MEAN, YES. OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO IN THEIR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO ASK US. AND, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT TO TELL THEM. AND ALONG WITH THE MAYOR SAID EARLIER, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT AN EYESORE, MAKE SURE THINGS LOOK BETTER. LIKE THIS WITH HER COMMENT WAS ABOUT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW, BECAUSE USUALLY THEY WILL TRY TO TAKE CONTROL OF IT AND PUT THEIR OWN RULES INTO PLACE, BUT
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I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY WANTS AS WELL. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY, YES I CAN. OH YES. I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT ON ON THE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OR THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CITY ADVISING THE HOA OF THEIR LEGAL RIGHTS. ONE, THE HOA WOULD NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FINDING THEIR OWN LEGAL ADVICE INTO WHAT THEY DO. THE CITY DOESN'T PROVIDE LEGAL ADVICE TO OTHER ENTITIES. SECOND, THE HOA HAVE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY CAN WORK WITH AS IN REGARDS TO WHAT THEY ARE REQUIRING AND WHATEVER THAT PROCESS MAY LOOK LIKE FOR THE HOA. THE OTHER PIECE IS THE ENFORCEMENT OF IT. IT'S ONE THING THAT WE WANT NEIGHBORHOODS TO REMAIN PERFECTLY SCREENED AND ALL THAT, BUT THAT WILL REQUIRE A RESOURCE TO GO DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE TO EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS, TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE RESPONDING TO WHATEVER'S IN THE ORDINANCE. SO I JUST OFFER THAT AS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THANK YOU MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER EMERY. YEAH, WHEN THE NON RESIDENTIAL EXCUSE ME, THE NON RESIDENTIAL THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT IS THAT A PERMIT FOR EACH ONE OF THE STATIONS ARE THE THE BANK OF STATIONS THAT THAT MIGHT BE INSTALLED. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S A SEPARATE PERMIT FOR EACH ONE OF THE CHARGING STATIONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE PARKING INCENTIVE, WHO'S GOING TO POLICE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT ONLY EV'S ARE PARKED IN AND USING THE THIS CHARGING STATION. SO I BELIEVE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT WOULD REALLY BE UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND NOT NECESSARILY THE CITY, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SAYING, AS FAR AS THIS ORDINANCE GOES, JUST THE LIMIT OF THE NUMBER OF EV PARKING SPACES THERE CAN BE, BUT THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO EITHER NOTIFY THE VEHICLE OWNERS THAT MAYBE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, A REGULAR GASOLINE VEHICLE PARKED IN AN EV ONLY STATION OR TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM TOW WHATEVER THEIR ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES MAY BE. BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CITY OBLIGATION, TRYING TO LIMIT HOW MANY STATIONS A. RESIDENTIAL. WELL, ACTUALLY, I'M THINKING MORE OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IF IT WANTS TO HAVE CHARGING STATIONS. IS THERE A LIMIT HOW MANY THEY CAN HAVE? SO IT WOULD FALL UNDER THAT 10% REQUIREMENT AS WELL. OKAY. OR 10% LIMIT.EXCUSE ME. IF I CAN CLARIFY ON THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT ITEM. IT'S ONE PERMIT PER LOCATION, SO IT'S NOT ONE ELECTRICAL PERMIT FOR EACH STATION. SO IF IT'S ONE STATION PUTTING IN SIX, IT'S ONE ELECTRICAL PERMIT FOR ALL OF THAT WORK. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER IS DESIGN CRITERIA. AND SOMEBODY TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WE DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF WIRES HANGING ACROSS THE, THE BACK OF WHERE THIS COMPLEX OR THE, THE SCREENING AREA MAY BE. SO DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN ENFORCE THAT SAYS THAT IT HAS THE POWER TO IT HAS TO BE UNDERGROUND. SO IT DOESN'T. SO. SO THAT WAS ALSO, I BELIEVE, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN MARSHALLS CONCERN AS WELL. SO CURRENTLY THERE ISN'T ANYTHING SPECIFYING THAT ALL OF THE ELECTRICAL WIRING TO THE CHARGING STATION ITSELF MUST BE UNDERGROUND, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THAT TO THE ORDINANCE IF IT'S DESIRED BY COUNCIL. WELL, I WASN'T LISTENING TO. SORRY. AND THIS IS ALL ZONING DISTRICTS. SO I MEAN THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY. THERE'S NO EXCLUSION FROM CERTAIN ZONING AREAS OR AREAS THAT ARE ZONED IN A PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT.
THAT'S CORRECT. THERE ARE NO EXCLUSIONS. SO THIS WOULD BE APPLICABLE IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS. OKAY. AND I GUESS IF YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT A STRIP CENTER, WHO'S GOING TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS A CHARGING STATION FOR 2 OR 3 OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WANT IT, AND THEN SOME THAT, YOU KNOW, AREN'T AMENABLE TO HAVING A CHARGING STATION. SO THAT WOULD BE THE PROPERTY OWNER ENGAGING WITH THESE EV CHARGING STATION COMPANIES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, I APOLOGIZE. NO, I KNOW MONICA, I JUST HAVE A FEW FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD. ONE IS, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY THESE SHOPPING CENTERS THAT WHAT I'VE SEEN,
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I'VE REPORTED OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING THESE METAL SIGNS UP. THEY'RE SAYING PARKING FOR OUR BUSINESS ONLY, RIGHT? AND WRITING LITERALLY IN FRONT OF THEM. SO THEY DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SHOPPING CENTER, YOU HAVE BUSINESSES ALL LITERALLY ACROSS. SO ONE OF MY CONCERN IS THE PLACEMENT OF THESE. AND THE OTHER THING IS WHEN YOU GO TO LOWE'S OR WHEN YOU GO TO. SOME OF THESE BIG TARGET AND THINGS OF THAT KOHL'S, YOU'VE SEEN HANDICAPPED SIGNS, THEN YOU'VE SEEN EV STATION SIGNS. SO EVERYBODY ELSE'S PARKING FURTHER AND FURTHER AND FURTHER BACK, RIGHT? SO MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY SHOULD LOOK AT STRATEGICALLY PARKING, PLACING THESE WHERE IT IS. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OUR HANDICAPS, PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVE A HANDICAPPED STICKER COMES IMPORTANT, BUT EV STATIONS ARE NOT HANDICAPS. SO THEY NEEDED TO BE PLACED IN A WAY WHERE THESE SHOPPING CENTERS ARE BEING PUSHED IN. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S THE LARGER LIKE KOHL'S TARGETS AND BIGGER PLACES LIKE LOWE'S. BUT THESE SMALL STRIP CENTERS.THE PLACEMENT ALSO IS ANOTHER CONCERN BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE SIGNAGE, PEOPLE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE INTO A CONCRETE INTO A BUCKET AND THEN PUTTING IT OUT THERE SAYING THAT THIS IS THEIR SPACE. NOW YOU HAVE EV CHARGING STATIONS THAT'S GOING INTO DIFFERENT PLACES. SO THERE MIGHT BE BETWEEN A COORDINATION BETWEEN WITH SEVERAL BUSINESSES AND A SHOPPING CENTER OWNER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE EV STATIONS TO BE PLACED. THE OTHER THING IS, MONICA, I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS COMING UP BECAUSE THE CAR HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR TWO YEARS ALREADY. ALMOST EVERYBODY AT LEAST HAS A ONE CAR IN THEIR HOME THAT HAS EV. SO HAVE WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AND DO THEY HAVE COMPARABLE OR AS TO WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING OR ARE WE GOING EXTRA MILEAGE IN THINKING OF, AS YOU KNOW, TO SCRUTINIZE THE PROCESS EVEN FURTHER IS WHAT I'M ASKING. SO WE DID CONDUCT A BENCHMARK SURVEY, I WILL SAY, MOST OF THE CITIES, BECAUSE THIS IS FAIRLY NEW, DID NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE. A COUPLE OF THE CITIES DID. ONE CITY, THE ORDINANCE WAS PRIMARILY RELATED TO COMMERCIAL ONLY. THERE WAS ANOTHER CITY THAT ACTUALLY DID IMPOSE SOME RESIDENTIAL RESTRICTIONS AS WELL. OKAY, SO TO CITY MANAGER, I KNOW WE HAVE A LARGE OR ALL HOA MEETING COMING UP. MAYBE AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THIS SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION PROCESS IN THAT TALKING ABOUT IF THEY. I KNOW MOST OF THE HOAS DO NOT HAVE THIS IN THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE TALKING ABOUT OTHER STUFF.
THAT TRASH, TRASH CAN, YOU KNOW, COVERAGE AND ALL OF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY PUSHED FOR YEARS AGO, NOT WAS THAT WAS NOT IN THEIR DEEDS. SO THIS ONE YOU'RE ASKING, AND I KNOW TO YOUR POINT, STAFF AND CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN GO EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY LOOKING FOR THESE CHARGING STATIONS AND SEE IF THEY'RE POSITIONED CORRECTLY OR NOT. SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF OWNERSHIP THAT COMES FROM HOA WHEN THEY DO ONCE A MONTH, DRIVE BY OR VISIT AND SEEING IT. SO IT HAS TO BE A DUAL EFFORT. SO OTHERWISE YOU'LL END UP HAVING CODE ENFORCEMENT BE OUT THERE IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRYING TO CITE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FOR, YOU KNOW, IMPROPERLY PUTTING THESE, THESE CODES OUT THERE. SO THAT'S MY COMMENT IS TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF COMMUNICATIONS WHILE THIS IS BEING ROLLED OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK END OF THIS MONTH IS WHEN WE HAVE OUR HOA AND MAYBE HAVING SOME OF THAT DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AND PLACING OUR POSITIONING ON WHAT WE'RE THINKING IS A MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION TO HAVE, NOT AFTERWARDS. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, I YIELD BACK, RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER BROWN, THANK YOU. UNDER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PERMITS, BUT ARE THE PERMITS ONLY FOR COMMERCIAL OR WOULD THAT BE FOR RESIDENTIAL AS WELL? SO I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ABOUT THIS.
I'M GOING TO DEFER TO JENNIFER ON THIS. IF I COULD, JUST AS JENNIFER'S COMING UP. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ENFORCING IT, THEN THERE WOULD BE A PERMIT FOR RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. SO THE PERMIT IS GOING TO GO WITH WHATEVER WE'RE ENFORCING. YES. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE TRUE BECAUSE THEY WOULD ANY INSTALLATION REQUIRES AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT. SO WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, IT WOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. AND SINCE IT'S WE'RE REALLY EARLY IN THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF NON COMPLIANCE WITH THIS AS OF YET, BUT MY HOPE IS THAT WE GET THIS ON THE BOOKS BEFORE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE START
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GRAVITATING TO ELECTRICAL CARS, BUT IT, EVEN WHEN THEY EVEN WITH OUR RENTAL POLICY, WE WANT PEOPLE TO DO OR PERMIT FOR THEIR RENTAL PROPERTIES AND THIS AND THAT. THIS TO ME WOULD JUST BE A SECOND LAYER OF, HEY, GREAT, YOU GOT AN ELECTRICAL CAR, BUT IT'S ALSO A RENTAL PROPERTY. NOW YOU CAN KIND OF CAPTURE ALL OF THAT UNDER ONE. AND WILL THIS BE A STANDALONE ORDINANCE OR ARE WE LOOKING TO ADD THIS INTO OTHER ORDINANCES, LIKE WITH OUR JUNK CAR OR SOMETHING ELSE. SO THIS WOULD BE A STANDALONE. SO THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE SECTION. OKAY.THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER RILEY. A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED IN REGARDS TO THE HOA MEETING THAT MAYOR MENTIONED. BUT MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, CAN THIS NOT BE ROLLED INTO OR HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF COMPLIANCE THAT, LIKE OUR TRASH CANS HAVE? THE TRASH CANS HAVE TO BE BACK BEHIND. THEY CAN'T BE VISIBLE SITE CAN THE WIRES FROM OR CABLES FROM THE EV CHARGING STATIONS CAN HAVE THAT SAME COMPLIANCE WHERE THEY CANNOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. SO IT WAS SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WAS MORE OF THE HOA SIDE. REGARDING THE THE SCREENING FOR THE TRASH CANS. I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK INTO THIS ORDINANCE, BUT IT WOULD STILL PROBABLY BE SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER SCREENING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY CODE.
YEAH. BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT MY CONCERN IS THE WHERE THE WIRES HAVE TO BE BURIED, ONE THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN EXPENSE, THEN THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE THE ELECTRICAL, WHOEVER THEY DEAL WITH, THE ELECTRICITY COME OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, CHECK FOR WHETHER ALL THE LINES ARE THE GAS LINES, THE ELECTRICAL LINES, THE WATER LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF IT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE BURIED, IF THOSE CABLES ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE BURIED. SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN THE COMMERCIAL CONTEXT? IS NO, THE RESIDENTIAL ONES. SO IT'S KIND OF MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE LOCATED PRETTY CLOSE TO THE ELECTRICAL PANEL.
SO THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES WHEN HOMES HAVE THE ELECTRICAL PANEL IN THE GARAGE, THAT'S WHERE THE CHARGING STATION IS LOCATED. OR IF IT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THEN THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE CHARGING STATION IS PUT IN. SO THERE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE EXPOSED ELECTRICAL LINES. OKAY. BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THEM LINES OR WHATNOT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS REFERRING TO THE CORDS THAT CONNECT TO THE VEHICLES. SO I GUESS I SAID THIS IS USUALLY YOU HAVE YOUR ELECTRICAL PANELS 99% OF THE TIME IT'S SITTING IN YOUR GARAGE. SO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPACE IN THEIR GARAGE, THEY WOULD CONNECT IT INSIDE THEIR GARAGE. BUT IF YOU'RE ONLY PARKING ONE CAR IN THE GARAGE AND YOU'RE LEAVING THE REST OF THE VEHICLE OUT, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CORD THAT COMES OUT AND IT GETS PLUGGED INTO YOUR VEHICLE, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S ONE WAY OF DOING IT. THE OTHER ONE IS YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE THE ELECTRICAL PANEL INSIDE THE GARAGE, BUT OLDER HOMES HAVE IT ON THE EXTERIOR WALL. SO AT THAT POINT, YOU DON'T HAVE NO OTHER WAY UNLESS YOU SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY BRINGING IT INSIDE TO YOUR GARAGE. OTHERWISE, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE CONNECTING THAT CORD FROM OUTSIDE OR INSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE AND KIND OF RUNNING IT TOWARDS YOUR DRIVEWAY IS THE TWO WAYS THAT YOU CAN CONNECT. BUT SINCE THE PANEL IS ALREADY THERE, THEY'RE CONNECTING IT TO PANEL. UNLESS YOU'RE PUTTING TESLA OR ANY OF THOSE NEW STATIONS, I'VE SEEN BOTH THAT BEING PUT INSIDE THE GARAGE AND ON THE EXTERIOR PANEL OF THE GARAGE AS WELL. SO THERE'S REALLY NO VARYING OF. I DON'T THINK SO. YOU KNOW, BUT TO THAT POINT, I THINK DEFINITELY THERE SHOULD BE AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THE WRONG PERSON THAT THINK THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY GO IN THERE AND MESS WITH YOUR ELECTRICAL PANEL.
AND THEN NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A FIRE THAT CAN HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY. SO IF I MAY ADD TO THIS, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A VERY STRATEGIC QUESTION IS, ARE WE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE ELECTRICAL VEHICLE USAGE? ARE WE TRYING TO MANAGE IT BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. THE MORE COSTS WE PUT AND I'M SPEAKING TO RESIDENTIAL, NOT SO MUCH COMMERCIAL, THE MORE COST WE PUT ON RESIDENTIAL TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE SCREENING OR WHATEVER WE DO WITH THE WIRING. IT COULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE TO RESIDENTIAL TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT. SO WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR OVERALL STRATEGY IS. OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS I RECOMMEND WITH THE THE COMMERCIAL EV STATIONS, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE WILL BE PLACED POSSIBLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IS TO
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MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AWARE THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED. I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COMPLIANCE PART OF IT, BUT ALSO THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF A WRITTEN NOTIFICATION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AWARE HOW MANY THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH HAVING ON THEIR PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AS WELL AS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOCATED, JUST SO THAT WHEN THE PERMITTING PROCESS TAKES PLACE, THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING, THERE'S NO BACK AND FORTH ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS. SO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A STEP IN THERE WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTIFICATION TO THE CITY OR AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS OR WHATNOT, THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF IT. AND THEY HAVE STATED THEY CAN HAVE MAX TEN IN X, Y, AND Z LOCATION. SO THAT'S MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT. OKAY. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. OKAY. I THINK I'M ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE WHO HAS ACTUALLY HAS ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO. ONE IS A HYBRID, SO IT TAKES A 110 OUTLET AND ONE HAS A 220. I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO DO A LOT MORE RESEARCH ON HOW PEOPLE ARE USING THESE, HOW THEY'RE CONNECTED, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS MAY END UP COMPLETELY BANNING SOME PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO USE EV IN THIS PROCESS. I KNOW THAT THE WAY MY HUSBAND HAS RUN OUR CORDS, I BELIEVE HAS ALWAYS LOOKED PRETTY TASTEFUL. ONE IS THE 220 IS KIND OF TUCKED AROUND THE SIDE OF OUR GARAGE, BUT THE OTHER ONE, WE HAD TO RUN IT OUT AND THERE'S NO WAY TO RUN IT BACK IN BECAUSE WE DON'T PARK IN THE GARAGE. OUR GARAGE IS HAS A LOT OF STORAGE.AND SO YOU WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TO PULL THAT BACK INSIDE IS COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE AT THIS POINT WITHOUT DOING SOME OTHER SORT OF SYSTEM THAT REALLY DOESN'T WORK FOR OUR FAMILY. SO I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO DO A LOT MORE RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT RULING OUT AND MAKING IT CUMBERSOME FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, BUT STILL BEING TASTEFUL AND NOT UNATTRACTIVE. SO I WOULD JUST PUT FORWARD THAT, YOU KNOW, REAL LIFE USAGE OF THESE THINGS HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND NOT JUST RULE OUT THINGS WITHOUT HAVING ANY SORT OF REAL.
KNOWLEDGE OF HOW PEOPLE ARE REALLY HAVING TO USE THESE OUTLETS. THANK YOU. I RECOGNIZE AND COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY. YEAH, THE QUESTION I HAD IS ON THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT. DOES THAT BRING IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THEM TO DO SOME INSPECTIONS ON THE. WHERE THE YOU KNOW, IF IT'S INSIDE THE GARAGE WHERE THAT WOULD BE PLACED AND DOES IT PASS MUSTER? SO IT DOESN'T IT WOULD BE UNDER THE BUILDING CODES, THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING AND ELECTRICAL CODES.
SO IT WOULD BE UNDER THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER BROWN. OKAY, KIND OF GOING BACK TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY WAS TALKING ABOUT, I THINK WHEN I WAS DESCRIBING THIS, IT WASN'T SO MUCH AS THE PEOPLE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR THEM TO HAVE TO BURY THEIR CARDS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE GETTING AT. WOULDN'T WANT THEM TO DO THAT. FOR ME, IT'S JUST A PURE VISUAL OF SOMEONE INSTALLING THE ACTUAL CHARGING MACHINE ON A PORCH. AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY STARTED ALL OF THIS FOR ME. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT BEING ON THE SIDE OF THE HOME, IN THE GARAGE OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S LITERALLY IT. YOU TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER, IT BEING YOUR INSTEAD OF YOUR DOORBELL BEING THE FIRST THING YOU SEE, YOU SEE A CHARGING PANEL, ONE OF THOSE COMMERCIAL TYPE TYPE THINGS. IT'S ON SOMETHING. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, IT'S A, IT'S LIKE A TESLA PACK. RIGHT. AND SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS WELL. COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER ODENKIRCHEN. AND I DO WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. AND I DON'T WANT PEOPLE NOT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT, BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO DO IT IN A THOUGHTFUL MANNER. IS REALLY WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO WITH THIS. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE OR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CANNOT ACHIEVE, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD SET THE STANDARD, AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS GET DELAYED ANY LONGER, BUT NOT TO MAKE THEM HAVE TO BURY CORDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST COULD YOU PUT YOUR PANEL PLEASE, ON THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE IN THE GARAGE? IT'S GOING WITH THIS. I RECOGNIZE THE MAYOR PRO TEM CLAUSE. YES.
SO AS AN EV DRIVER, SOMEBODY THAT HAS A CHARGING STATION IN MY GARAGE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD MY CAR FOR FOUR YEARS NOW AND I HAVE SEEN THE EVOLUTION OF THESE STATIONS.
FORTUNATELY, I DON'T EVER CHARGE OUT AT ANY STATIONS, BUT THEY'RE THERE IF WE NEED THEM.
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BUT THE EVOLUTION OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS CHANGES. SO I THINK WHAT WHAT YOU WOULD WOULD BE A IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO MAYBE CONSULT WITH MAYBE SOME OF THE MOST POPULAR, MAYBE CHARGE A CHARGE POINT OFFICIAL OR A TESLA OFFICIAL THAT IS THAT, THAT INSTALLS THESE OR ONE OF THE COMPANIES TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THESE STANDARDS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS UNTIL WE'RE BLUE IN THE FACE, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KNOW THE RESEARCH. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KNOW, KNOW THE DATA, THEY KNOW WHERE THIS, WHERE CHARGING STATIONS ARE GOING FOR HOME AND, AND COMMERCIAL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING STANDARDS THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE THE EVOLUTION OF EV CHARGING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE, I GUESS WE'RE YOU GOT ALL THE DIRECTIONS. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR WHAT MY DIRECTIVES ARE FROM COUNCIL AND THAT EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT SO THAT THE APPLICATION SHOULD SHOULD INCLUDE AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, SOME SORT OF MOCK UP ON THE PLACEMENT AND LOCATION OF THESE EV CHARGING STATIONS OR PANELS TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT REGARDING RESIDENTIAL, THAT IF IT'S VISIBLE FROM LIKE A STREET, THAT IT BE DONE IN A TASTEFUL MANNER, WE'LL TRY TO TALK TO CHARGEPOINT AND TESLA OR REACH OUT TO THEM TO SEE HOW THIS CAN BE DONE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. WHAT KIND OF THE OPTIONS ARE TO MAKE SURE IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS AS WELL, THAT THERE IS A WRITTEN NOTIFICATION OR CERTIFICATION FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THEY DO HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER'S PERMISSION. THERE'S ALSO A A WANT OR A DESIRE FOR MAYBE STRONGER CONDEMNATION OF THESE KIND OF DAMAGED OR DEFUNCT CHARGING STATIONS, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELECTRICAL LINES ARE BURIED AS WELL, BUT THAT WE'LL NEED TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT SITUATION FOR THE CORDS TO THE ACTUAL VEHICLES. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN JUST TOLD ME THAT DON'T CALL MUSK. ASK HIM ABOUT ALL THIS. LET'S GET IT DONE. UNDERSTOOD. AND MONICA, IF IF WE IF YOU CAN FOR THE FOR FOR MY POINT, JUST I WOULD JUST TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE DOING AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. WHAT ARE WE LEAVING OUT? WHAT ARE WE NOT THINKING ABOUT? OKAY.YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU ALL. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS CLOSED. I STILL HAVE TWO MORE ORDINANCES TO GO. YEAH, YEAH. YOU DO. I'M READY TO GO. MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE MOST COMPLEX, BUT. SO DEPENDING ON WHEN LIMIT ON THE NEXT ONE FOR THREE MINUTES. SO DEPENDING ON WHEN WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM TESLA AND THESE OTHER AND CHARGEPOINT AND THESE OTHER EV STATIONS, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THIS BACK TO COUNCIL AS SOON AS MAY 4TH AND FOR OUR FIRST READING, AND THEN A SECOND READING FOR MAY 20TH. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO RENTAL HOUSING, WHICH INVOLVES SHORT TERM RENTALS, LONG TERM RENTALS, AS WELL AS SENIOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. AND SO THE DECISION POINTS FOR COUNCIL TODAY ARE WHETHER TO ALLOW SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AND THEN ADD SOME OR ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SENIOR HOUSING. I WILL SAY THAT THIS ONE IS TIME SENSITIVE REGARDING IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE WORLD CUP AROUND THE CORNER STARTING IN MID-JUNE. OKAY, SO THE CURRENT REGULATIONS ARE THAT WE DO HAVE RETRO ANNUAL RENTAL REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS FOR UNITS. HOWEVER, THIS WOULD SPECIFY WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS AS WELL AS LONG TERM RENTALS, AND THEN ALSO SENIOR RESIDENTIAL RENTAL UNITS. AND SO IT WOULD REQUIRE LOCAL EMERGENCY CONTACTS. SO THAT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY CONTACT. THAT IS A PERSON WITHIN 25 MILES THAT CAN RESPOND WITHIN AN HOUR AND CAN MAKE DECISIONS REGARDING THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THE NAME OF THIS PERSON, OF THIS LOCAL EMERGENCY CONTACT WILL HAVE TO BE POSTED IN THIS RENTAL UNIT. NOW, THERE WOULD BE REQUIRED ANNUAL INSPECTIONS AND INSPECTIONS AS NEEDED. EMERGENCY PLANS, ELEVATOR OUTAGE REPORTS, MOBILITY ASSISTANCE PLANS MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY WITHIN THREE DAYS OF THE REQUEST, AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL NOTIFICATION LOGS, WHICH I'LL EXPLAIN MOMENTARILY FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS A CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE FOR $1 MILLION IN LIABILITY WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THE RENTAL UNIT MUST BE RENTED FOR AT LEAST TWO NIGHTS CONSECUTIVE NIGHTS. IT COULD ONLY BE RENTED TO TEN OR LESS PEOPLE, AND THEN FOR FIVE OR LESS GUEST ROOMS. AND THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO REGISTER OR SHOW REGISTRATION FOR THE HOT TAX. NOW FOR THE SENIOR MULTIFAMILY REQUIREMENTS, THERE
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WOULD NEED TO BE AT LEAST ONE INTERIOR ROOM WITH BACKUP POWER. SO IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A SNOWSTORM OR WE HAVE A HURRICANE, THEN THAT ROOM WOULD NEED TO BE FULLY HEATED OR FULLY AIR CONDITIONED IN THE EVENT THERE'S A SUMMER ISSUE, AS WELL AS HAVE A A FULLY FUNCTIONING REFRIGERATOR FOR THOSE MEDICATIONS THAT ARE TEMPERATURE SENSITIVE. FOR FACILITIES WITH ONE OR MORE ELEVATORS, AT LEAST ONE ELEVATOR WOULD EITHER NEED TO BE ON BACKUP POWER, OR THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A MOBILE MOBILE MOBILITY ASSISTANCE PLAN THAT LISTS ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT REQUIRE MOBILITY ASSISTANCE. THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE 24 HOUR STAFF ATTENDANCE TO THESE RESIDENTS WITH ISSUES, AS WELL AS PROVIDE FOR PROMPT EMERGENCY RESPONDER ACCESS. NOW THERE. THERE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE FUNCTIONING LIGHTS AT NIGHT FOR THESE SENIOR RESIDENTS. OPERABLE SECURITY CAMERAS AT RESIDENTIAL ENTRANCES, GATES OF PARKING AREAS, AS WELL AS ENCLOSED OUTDOOR AMENITIES LIKE A POOL OR BARBECUE AREA. THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED OF ESSENTIAL SYSTEM ISSUES LIKE AN ELEVATOR GOING OUT WITHIN 30 MINUTES OF CONFIRMATION OF THE SYSTEM ISSUE, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE UPDATED EVERY FOUR HOURS UNTIL THE THE ISSUE IS RESOLVED. THE ORDINANCE DOES PROVIDE FOR MINIMUM PENALTIES, WHICH INCLUDE REVOKING REGISTRATION FOR UP TO ONE YEAR AND THAT, AND THE REGISTRATION WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE REVOKED UNDER CERTAIN INSTANCES, SUCH AS TAXES BEING DELINQUENT OR THE INSURANCE BEING CANCELED. THERE'S ALSO A PROVISION FOR MISDEMEANOR PENALTY AS WELL. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. DO WE CURRENTLY CITY MANAGER, DO WE HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL POLICY IN PLACE TODAY? SO ACTUALLY THIS ORDINANCE WOULD PROVIDE FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL POLICY TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY MANAGEMENT. SO AS OF NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY SHORT TERM PLANS. WE JUST HAVE A RENT. WE HAVE A RENTAL POLICY, BUT THAT'S ON A HONORARY SYSTEM. OKAY. DO WE HAVE LONG TERM RENTAL? THAT'S WHEN I ON AN HONORARY NO OTHER HONORARY. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO. AND THEN OF COURSE, SENIOR HOUSING FALLS INTO WHERE WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DO ALL OF IT. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE TODAY AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. SO COMES TO THINK OF IT, I WAS JUST ASKING BROWN MARSHALL, I THINK SHE'LL SPEAK TO IT. AIRBNB, RENTALS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT COMES INTO IT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN YOURS WITH EMERGENCY PLANS, ELEVATOR OUTAGE REPORTS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE REQUIREMENTS OF MEDICATIONS AND THIS AND THAT. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS TAKE IT TO AN EXTREME LEVEL, WHICH NEEDS TO. BUT MY THING IS. HOW WE, YOU KNOW, WE, IF YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER, YOU WANT TO RENT YOUR PLACE OUT, RIGHT? WHETHER IT'S SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM. AND IF THEY DO DO THAT, THERE'S NOWHERE IN THERE, THERE'S NO STATE LAW THAT TELLS ME THAT YOU CAN'T RENT YOUR HOME. CORRECT. IF YOU HAVE A, AN EXTRA HOME THAT YOU CAN'T RENT. SO IF YOU CAN, THEN WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE THAT WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN? THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE HEAR IS VEHICLES BEING PARKED ON THE GRASS OR IN NEIGHBOR'S FRONT YARD, RIGHT? AND NOISE ORDINANCES, PEOPLE ARE SCREAMING AND HAVING PARTIES IN THE BACKYARD AND DOING ALL THESE THINGS OR AFTER HOURS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL MUSIC PLAYING. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THE ONES THAT WE HEAR COMMONLY ABOUT. NOW, I KNOW WHILE I'M NOT SAYING MEDICATION AIN'T IMPORTANT, BUT THAT'S TO ME WHEN I THINK ABOUT YOUR MEDICATION TEMPERATURE, THAT'S REALLY UP TO YOU AND HOW YOU LOOK AT THIS AND YOU DEAL WITH IT. BUT I KNOW WHEN WE CREATE AN ORDINANCE, WE TAKE IT TO THE TO THE EXTREME ISSUE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. TODAY, I WOULD JUST ASK IS SIMILAR TO THE AIRBNB KIND OF THINGS HAVE SIMILAR, YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE RENTERS OR THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE GIVING THEIR PROPERTY FOR AIRBNB ARE THE ONES THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE REGULATIONS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING? HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SIMPLIFY IT WHERE THEY'RE FOLLOWING? SO TO OUR RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, OR IF IT'S A HOME THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMMUNITY, HOW DO THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY COME BACK, THEY FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF BECAUSE WE ARE A SUBURBAN CITY, NOT A DOWNTOWN HOUSTON CITY. SO WE CAN FOLLOW THOSE ARE MY, MY COMMENTS. AND THEN OF COURSE, SENIOR HOUSING.WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ELEVATORS, THERE COULD BE OTHER STUFF, MOLD. THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW,
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TILES NOT REPLACED, THERE COULD BE TEMPERATURE ISSUES. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A GAZILLION STUFF OF ISSUES THAT CAN START FROM THERE. SO INSTEAD OF US JUST GOING OFF OF WHAT WE JUST LEARNED OR WHAT WE JUST KNOW THAT BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS OVERALL FROM A STANDARD OF PRACTICE OR BEST, BEST PRACTICE, IF YOU WILL, AND LEAD US TO COME UP WITH OR THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOUR YOUR RENTER AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO'S RENTING AND TO THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT? AND INSTEAD OF ALL THIS STIPULATIONS THAT WE'VE PUSHED SO HARD INTO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CUTTING GRASS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING GARBAGE OUT THERE FOR CLEANING PROPERTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S SO MANY RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT'S PUT IN PLACE ARE SOME OF MY COMMENTS, RIGHT? I YIELD BACK, WE GO TO MAYOR PRO TEM KLAUS. YES. I'M HAPPY THAT THIS IS COMING BEFORE US OF CLARIFICATION. WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE THE SENIOR I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SENIOR MULTIFAMILY, BUT YOU MENTIONED THE I'M GUESSING MORE SO LIKE CARE HOMES WHERE YOU HAVE A REFRIGERATOR. IS THAT MORE OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL LIKE SENIOR CARE HOMES. SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE FOR ALSO THOSE RESIDENCES FOR SENIOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE ABOVE THE AGE OF 55. SURE. YEAH.SO NOT JUST LIKE A NURSING HOME FACILITY, RIGHT? THOSE APARTMENTS OR THAT HAVE THAT AGE RESTRICTION. OKAY, OKAY. SO GOING TO AND THE REASON WHY I'M SO HAPPY THAT THIS IS COMING BEFORE US BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN ICE STORMS, WE'VE SEEN OUR HURRICANES, AND WE'VE GOTTEN THE PHONE CALLS FROM WHETHER IT'S THE LOVED ONE OF SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN ONE OF THOSE.
AND THE STANDARDS ARE JUST NOT WHERE WE NEED THEM TO BE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS. SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THESE STANDARDS ARE COMING BEFORE US WITH WITH SOME PENALTIES FOR THEM NOT TO FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT COMPLIANT. SO I WANT TO SAY THAT THE SECOND THING I WANT TO ASK IS FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. NOW, WE'VE ALL, I'M SURE, GOTTEN THE CALLS FROM NEIGHBORS ABOUT CERTAIN HOMES. YOU KNOW, THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS, THEY WORK, THEY WORK FINE WHEN THEY WORK AND WHEN THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T BECAUSE THEY END UP BEING A NUISANCE FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND CAN BE SOMETIMES A SAFETY ISSUE. SO I AM HAPPY THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THIS FOR THE SAFETY AND THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT FEES. ARE WE LOOKING AT MUNICIPAL OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE WHAT THEIR SHORT TERM RENTALS LOOK LIKE? AND AS FAR AS OUR FEES GO, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH THE FEES? AND I DON'T NEED TO KNOW THEM RIGHT NOW, BUT DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT THOSE BENCHMARK FEES TO BE? THIS, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL SPECIFICALLY CAME UP AS A RESULT OF, OF COURSE, THE PENDING WORLD CUP GAMES. BUT ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE VENDORS OUT THERE THAT COULD HELP US MONITOR AND COLLECT FEES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY THAT WE DO CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES. SO AND ALSO, WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE WE, ONE, DO NOT HAVE A CENTRAL UTILITY, AND THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE RESIDENTS. NORMALLY YOU CAN DO THAT THROUGH YOUR UTILITY BILL OR THROUGH SOME WAY THAT WE CONNECT WITH EVERY RESIDENT OR WE DON'T EVEN DO TRASH, YOU KNOW, STORM WASTE PICKUP THAT'S DONE THROUGH A PRIVATE ENTITY. SO USING A VENDOR THAT WILL MATCH HOMEOWNER RECORDS WITH THE NAMES ON UTILITIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THROUGH GIS, THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, WE HAVE AN AVENUE THAT WE CAN AT LEAST BE MORE PROACTIVE, IDENTIFY WHO THE HOMEOWNER IS, IDENTIFY WHO'S IN THE PROPERTY AND GET THEM TO PAY A FEE. AND THEN WE HAVE A PERSON TO GO TO IF THERE ARE ISSUES AND THAT WE CAN CITE. SO THAT'S THE OVERALL PLAN. AND THAT JUST THE SENSE OF URGENCY IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO CAPTURE THOSE REVENUES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT EVEN ONGOING LONG TERM RENTALS, SAME WAY WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT A VENDOR THAT WOULD BE MATCHING THOSE HOMEOWNER NAMES WITH WHOEVER'S ON THOSE UTILITY BILLS OR WHATEVER. IF THEY'RE DIFFERENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RESPOND TO WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, AND IT COULD BE A LEGITIMATE REASON. MAYBE IT'S A FAMILY MEMBER, WHATEVER. THEY'RE NOT RENTING, BUT IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE SOME KIND OF RESPONSE. AND IF, IF THEY'RE RENTING, THEN THERE WOULD BE A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND THERE WOULD ALSO BE OWNERSHIP IF THERE ARE ISSUES. OKAY. I DO
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REMEMBER YOU TELLING ME ABOUT THAT. THE THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT THAT'S ALL THEY DO IS THEY SPEND TIME DOING THAT. GREAT POINT. SO THIS DEADLINE, THE WORLD CUP IS JUNE 11TH. HAVE WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE FEES ARE TO CONTRACT THIS COMPANY AND WE HAVE OKAY. WHAT IS THAT FEE? I WANT TO SAY 70 THE FEE FOR THE COMPANY, THE THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT WILL HELP US TO TO MANAGE THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS. BECAUSE I DID I HEAR 70,000 COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH, OKAY, IT'S GOING TO BE UNDER 50. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE I'VE TALKED TO THEM, BUT IT WAS UNDER THE $20,000 RANGE FOR AN ANNUAL CONTRACT. THEY WOULD MANAGE NOT ONLY OUR SHORT TERM RENTALS, COLLECT THE FEES THAT WE THAT WE ASSESS, BUT ALSO THE HOT FUNDS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE HOT FUNDS ARE. WE'RE NOT CAPTURING ANY OF THE HOT FUNDS RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THEY WOULD ALSO DO THE THE LONG TERM RENTALS AS WELL. AND THEY DO IT THROUGH DATA MINING. SO THEY HAVE, THEY DATA MINE ON THE INTERNET TO FIND THAT THEY MONITOR HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT SITES TO FIND OUT WHO'S LISTING THESE, THESE PROPERTIES. RIGHT.OKAY. SO 120, 100, 125,000 NO, NO, NO UNDER 20. UNDER 20,000. UNDER 20,000. IT'S UNDER 20,000 A YEAR. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 15 OR 17 BUT IT'S UNDER 20. OKAY. OKAY. IT'S ABOUT 20,000.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SO JULY 11TH, WE'RE WITHIN THIS JUNE, JUNE 11TH, WE'RE WITHIN OUR BUDGET YEAR. WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? BECAUSE WAS THAT EVEN BUDGETED? I HAVE A CITY MANAGER BUDGET THAT ALLOWS FOR CONTRACTS. OKAY, SO WE HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET.
OKAY. YES. GOING FORWARD WITH THIS. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR THINKING AHEAD ON THAT. SECOND IS, HOW IS THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM PREPARED TO RECEIVE, LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO RECEIVE THOSE RENTAL FUNDS? ARE WE PREPARED FOR THAT? YEAH. YEP.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT. IT'S ACTUALLY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD ON ON THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, LONG TERM RENTALS. AND THEY WILL BE THE ONES TRACKING WORKING WITH THE, THE VENDOR AND THE ONES RECEIVING THE, THE PAYMENTS. OKAY. NEXT QUESTION.
GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY, AS FAR AS THE FEES GO, YES, WE IMPLEMENT THESE SHORT TERM RENTAL FEES, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS. AND I SEE JARELL IS SITTING OUT THERE. ARE WE ARE I KNOW HIS TEAM IS ALWAYS BUSY, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM RENTALS IN MISSOURI CITY. HOW ARE WE GOING TO EFFECTIVELY ENFORCE THIS POLICY. SO I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH WITH OTHER CITIES AND NOT PARTICULARLY NOT WANTING TO PUT AN EXTRA WORKLOAD ON EXISTING STAFF. AND THE VENDOR IS THE ONE THAT WILL ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE NOTICE, PROVIDE A SECOND NOTICE, PROVIDE A THIRD NOTICE.
THEY'VE GIVEN ME SOME STATISTICS, BUT IT'S OVER A 96% RESPONSE RATE FOR FOR THESE FOR THESE PROPERTIES TO RESPOND TO PAY THE FEES AFTER AFTER THEY RECEIVE THE NOTICES. SO THAT IS ALL DONE THROUGH THROUGH THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR. AND SO THEY'LL BE JUST VERY FEW WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO AND ISSUE A CITATION. IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. THEY CAN PULL UP THE DATA, THEY CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY SHORT TERM RENTALS WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND HOW MANY WE HAVE AT ANY GIVEN TIME RIGHT NOW. OKAY, SO THE PROCESS WOULD BE EASY IF WE FOUND OUT THAT CITY MANAGER'S NEIGHBOR WAS A SHORT TERM RENTAL. THEY DIDN'T REPORT IT. THEY DIDN'T SELF-REPORT SELF-IDENTIFY. AND THIS COMPANY, THIRD PARTY WOULD WRITE. SO WE. SO THE CITY STAYS OUT OF THAT.
AND THE THE WHOLE PROCESS FROM THE REPORTING OF THE VIOLATION TO THE, THE, I GUESS THE, THE MULTIPLE WARNINGS AND CITATIONS, WE STAY OUT OF ALL OF THAT UNTIL WE NEED TO GIVE THEM A CITATION. ONCE WE ONCE WE CITE THEM, THEN IT'S THEN IT'S US. BUT THE, THE, THE LETTER, THE SECOND LETTER, THE THIRD LETTER THAT ALL COMES FROM THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR. AND THEY SAY THE PERCENTAGE OF ONES THAT RESPOND AFTER THE FIRST NOTICE IS MOST PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW. A LOT OF THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE ALSO NOW MANAGED BY CORPORATIONS. THEY'RE USED TO IT. THEY KNOW THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO. AND JUST ONE THING THAT CAME UP THAT WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO CITIES ALL OVER TEXAS REGARDING THIS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT PART OF
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THIS TAKES, TAKES INTO ACCOUNT IS THESE, THESE PARTIES, RIGHT? PEOPLE WILL RENT A HOME FOR ONE NIGHT AND THEN THEY'LL THROW A BIG PARTY AND THERE'S NOISE AND THEN THEY'RE GONE. AND SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE TALKED TO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND SOME OF OUR, OUR COMMUNITIES OF OUR SIMILAR SIZE AND OTHER METROPOLITAN AREAS, THEY SAID THE TWO NIGHT MINIMUM ACTUALLY HAS DRASTICALLY REDUCED THAT BECAUSE THEY'LL JUST GO SOMEWHERE THEY CAN RENT IT AT NIGHT. THEY WANT TO THROW A ONE NIGHT PARTY, THEY'RE GOING TO GO SOMEPLACE. AND SO THE CITIES THAT REQUIRE A TWO NIGHT MINIMUM ON THOSE SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE FAR FEWER OF THESE OF THESE PARTIES, OF THESE PARTY HOUSES. OKAY. REPORTING VIOLATIONS. SO LET'S SAY A NEIGHBOR WANTS TO PICK ON YOU, CITY MANAGER JONES, LET'S SAY SHE HAS A, A, A RENTAL NEXT DOOR TO HER HOUSE AND SHE WANTS TO REPORT THIS VIOLATION. THAT WOULD BE A NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER. THEY WHAT WOULD THAT SHE WANTS TO REPORT SOMETHING. SO TELL ME ABOUT THAT PROCESS. WE WANT TO REPORT. YOU WANT TO REPORT YOUR NEIGHBOR. SO SO WE WE WANT TO BE WE WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT ANYTHING THAT'S A CURRENT CODE VIOLATION STAYS A CURRENT CODE VIOLATION. SO PARKING ON THE GRASS NOISE, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NONE OF THAT CHANGES. OKAY? IF SOMEONE HAS AN ISSUE WITH THOSE THINGS, THEY PICK UP THE PHONE CALL AND THEY CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER AND SOMEONE COMES OUT. THAT PROCESS DOESN'T CHANGE BECAUSE THOSE ARE EXISTING ORDINANCES, WHETHER THEY'RE LONG TIME RESIDENTS OR SHORT TERM RENTALS. THAT PROCESS DOESN'T CHANGE. OKAY. WHEN IS THE HOA MEETING? APRIL 23RD. OKAY, SO CITY MANAGER JONES, I WOULD IN I WOULD LOVE FOR BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL. I THINK THIS IS INFORMATION OUR HOA WOULD, WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONCE WE PUT A LITTLE MORE TEETH INTO THIS, I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE HOA DURING THAT MEETING SO THAT THEY SEE WHAT'S COMING AND THEY CAN ASK THEIR QUESTIONS AND BE ABLE TO GIVE INFORMATION BECAUSE THERE'S A GOOD RUNWAY BEFORE WE ADOPT THE FINAL RESOLUTION, THERE'S A GOOD RUNWAY THERE TO HEAR MORE OF THEIR FEEDBACK. SO, OKAY, I'M DONE. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER BRAINWASH. THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, JASON. YOU MAY HAVE TO COME BACK. SO IN IN TERMS OF TIMING, I DON'T YEAH, I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORLD CUP. BUT LET'S NOT FORGET WE HAVE A RODEO THAT ATTRACTS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE EVERY YEAR. WE'VE HAD FINAL FOURS, WE'VE HAD SUPER BOWLS. THE THE VENDOR HAS TOLD US THAT WE HAVE AT ANY GIVEN TIME, ABOUT 100. WHEN THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON, THAT'S THAT'S NOT A LOT FOR A CITY OUR SIZE. THAT'S THAT'S NOT A LOT. IT'S JUST WHEN THOSE EVENTS HAPPEN.SO WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL THE BENEFITS THAT MIGHT COME FROM THIS, FROM THE FROM THE WORLD CUP WHEN IT COMES TO HOT TAXES OR WHATEVER. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AT LEAST WE'RE PUTTING THE FOUNDATION IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A RODEO OR A SUPER BOWL OR A FINAL FOUR OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER'S BRINGING PEOPLE INTO HOUSTON AND THAT SPILLOVER, YOU KNOW, COMES, COMES DOWN HERE, THEN THEN WE'RE ABLE TO, WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MANAGING IT EFFECTIVELY. THAT MAKES ME FEEL A LOT BETTER BECAUSE IN MY MIND, I WAS THINKING, THERE IS NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE REGISTERED WITHIN TEN DAYS IF WE APPROVE IT, IF IT'S READY TO GO BY JUNE THE 1ST. AND WE AND WE MIGHT AND WE MIGHT GET I MEAN, THOSE PEOPLE THAT THAT ARE RUN BY COMPANIES THAT ARE USED TO THIS, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT, BUT I'M NOT I'M NOT ANTICIPATING THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF A, A REVENUE BOOST BECAUSE OF THE WORLD CUP. LIKE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, DONE THIS EARLIER. OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. SO ONCE WE GET ALL THE FINE TUNING WORKED OUT, THEN WE COULD COME AND GET A DEFINITIVE DATE AS TO WHEN THIS IS REALLY GOING TO GO INTO EFFECTIVE INTO EFFECT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT YOU, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING OTHER CITIES, BUT THE CITY OF HOUSTON JUST WENT INTO EFFECT APRIL 1ST. WE'RE NOT INTO EFFECT. IT HAS IT WAS WENT INTO EFFECT IN 2025, BUT THEY GAVE THEIR PEOPLE UNTIL APRIL 1ST TO BECOME REGISTERED. AND I'VE BEEN JUST WATCHING THE FLURRY WITH THIS IN SO MANY PEOPLE HAD NOT DONE IT. AND SO THOSE THIRD PARTY COMPANIES ARE REALLY, REALLY HELPING. AND NOW PEOPLE ARE JUST IN A BIG HURRY TO GET THIS DONE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO TARGET A DATE. I MEAN, WORK ON IT NOW AND THEN KEEP ROLLING IT OUT, PUSHING IT OUT, TALKING ABOUT IT AT THE HOA MEETING LIKE YOU SUGGESTED, AND THEN EVENTUALLY SAY, HEY, THIS POLICY, WE'VE ADOPTED IT IN 2026, BUT COME FEBRUARY 2027 OR WHATEVER, THIS IS WHEN YOU MUST BE REGISTERED OR WHATEVER WE'RE DOING THE I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, BECAUSE EVEN IF WE DON'T CATCH THE WORLD CUP TRAFFIC, AT LEAST WE WILL HAVE A MECHANISM TO
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CATCH HOT, HOT TAXES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CAPTURING ANY OF THEM AT THIS POINT. CORRECT. MONICA JOYCE GAVE US A BINDER DURING OUR RETREAT. YES. IS WHAT YOU'RE READING FROM INSIDE OF THAT BINDER BY CHANCE? YES. ALL THE ALL OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCES ARE IN THAT BINDER.ALL RIGHT. AND I FORGOT MINE TODAY, SO I'M SORRY I COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. BUT UNDER THE SHORT TERM, DID I HEAR YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WE WOULD MANDATE THAT IT WOULD BE A TWO DAY RENTAL. AT LEAST TWO DAYS. AT LEAST TWO DAYS. THAT'S THE PROPOSED. YEAH, THAT'S THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE LANGUAGE JUST TO CUT DOWN ON THOSE PARTIES. OKAY, OKAY. AND I GET IT. AND PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE PARTIES, IS THERE ANY KIND OF WAY THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH OUR UTILITIES, SOME KIND OF WAY SO THAT WE COULD GET INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE VIA THEIR UTILITY BILLS OR PARTNER WITH THEM TO USE THEIR GIS TRACKING SO THAT WE CAN KNOW AS WELL WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE THAT WELL, WELL, THE, THE THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT THAT WE'VE PARTNERED OR THAT WE WOULD PARTNER WITH, THEY, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THIS INFORMATION FOR US BECAUSE THEIR DATA MINING OFF THE INTERNET. SO THEY'RE ABLE TO PULL ALL THE PROPERTY ADDRESSES, THE OWNERS, THE LISTINGS, ETC. THEY'RE EVEN ABLE TO LIKE SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LISTING ARE THAT WE HAVE LIKE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS OR NUMBER OF ROOMS. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE CAN REQUIRE. THEY PUT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE LISTINGS AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN MINE THAT DATA OFF OF THAT. SO IT'S WE WILL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE ZERO ISSUE GETTING THE, THE INFORMATION ON WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND AS SOON AS ONE POPS UP THE NEXT DAY, THE LETTER WILL GET SENT OUT TO. SO IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS. IT'S NOT JUST A ONE TIME WHERE, HEY, WE HAVE 100 OR 200 OR 300 RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS PROCESS FOR, FOR THE CITY, THIS THIRD PARTY VENDORS IS ANYTIME A NEW ONE POPS UP, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT NOTIFICATION, HEY, WE SEE THAT YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED. THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY REQUIRES REGISTRATION. HERE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS. GO HERE TO TO TO TAKE CARE OF IT. OKAY. AND I KNOW EARLIER MAYOR MENTIONED EXTREME AND MAYBE NOT GOING SO EXTREME IN READING ONE OF THE OTHER ORDINANCES. THEY HAD SOME VERY EXTREME MEASURES IN THEIRS. IT INCLUDED THEIR SHORT TERM RENTAL PORTION AND IN THEIR LONG TERM. WHEREAS IF THE THERE WERE THINGS INSIDE, SUCH AS IF THE IF SOMETHING OCCURRED AT THAT PROPERTY AND SAY IT WAS CRIMINAL OR SEXUAL CONDUCT OR ABUSE AGAINST A CHILD OR AN ELDERLY PERSON, AND THAT PERSON WAS FOUND GUILTY, WHETHER IT BE THE OWNER OR THE PERSON THAT HAD RENTED IT, THEN THOSE THINGS WOULD TRIGGER BANNING THEM WHERE WE WOULD NO LONGER ISSUE THEM. THE PERMIT TO HAVE. THEIR SHORT TERM RENTAL AGREEMENT. SO I KNOW THAT THAT MAY BE A BIT EXTREME, BUT I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK. I EVEN SAW IN SOME WHERE THEY IF THEY GOT CAUGHT, SEX TRAFFICKING, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THEY ARE GOOD FOR, WHAT THEY REALLY ARE INTENDED TO BE WHEN IT'S GOOD.
BUT WHEN YOU START FINDING PEOPLE, USE THEM FOR BAD THINGS, GROW HOUSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN I THINK WE DO HAVE TO TIGHTEN IT UP AND PUT IN EXTREME MEASURES FOR THAT. THANK YOU. I RECOGNIZE AND COUNCILMEMBER RILEY, YES, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, COUNCILMEMBER BROWN MARSHALL, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY CONCERN, IS, CAN WE PUT LIMITATIONS IN WHAT THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS CAN BE FOR OR WHAT THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR? BECAUSE THAT'S MY CONCERN IS PEOPLE COMING IN INTO OUR CITY AND UTILIZING THEM FOR FALSE PRETENSES. SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE STIPULATED IN THERE. WHAT THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR AS SUCH, AS SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED. AND THEN ALSO THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR BUSINESSES. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT GROUP HOMES WITH THIS TYPE OF SHORT TERM LONG? WELL, THE LONG TERM RENTALS, DO THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED AS WELL. SO THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ACTUALLY NOT BE APPLICABLE TO GROUP HOMES. OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST RANDOM PEOPLE WANTING TO RENT SHORT TERM AIRBNBS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO WOULD YOU GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT SOME OF THOSE ITEMS TO YOU THAT WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE IN THERE AND BRING US BACK, BRING THIS BACK TO US AT A LATER DATE. IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIST THOSE BECAUSE NO ILLEGAL ACTIVITY WOULD BE ALLOWED. WE WOULDN'T EVEN TRY TO STATE ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ILLEGAL.
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BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN ILLEGAL, SURE, IT'S NOT REALLY ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES.I MEAN, YOU CAN BE RUNNING A MASSAGE PARLOR, YOU CAN BE RUNNING A BUSINESS. SO I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE STATED THAT YOU CANNOT USE THESE FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES AS FAR AS LIKE SETTING UP A BUSINESS, A HAIR SALON OR SOME SORT LIKE THAT, THE LONG TERM VERSUS THE SHORT TERM. AND THEN WITH THE SHORT TERM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU GUYS SAW IN THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAD SOME OTHER STIPULATIONS IN THERE THAT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO MISSOURI CITY? YEAH. AND WE AND WE INCORPORATED THOSE INTO INTO THESE. AND I DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE LIST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE TALKED TO, LIKE I SAID, NOT ONLY NOT ONLY SUBURBAN CITIES LIKE US, BUT WE ALSO TALK TO HIGH VOLUME CITIES. WE TALKED TO SOUTH PADRE ISLAND, WE TALKED TO GALVESTON, WE TALKED TO SAN ANTONIO, WE TALKED TO NEW BRAUNFELS. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND THEY'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM FROM THEIR EXPERIENCES. AND SO WE WANTED TO WE WANTED TO BENEFIT FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE. SO WE DID TALK TO A LOT OF THOSE. BUT THEN WE ALSO TALKED TO FLOWER MOUND AND SOME OF THESE OTHER DFW AREA THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REGULAR SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES AS WELL. WE'VE TRIED TO PULL THE BEST PRACTICES FROM FROM ALL OF THEM. AND THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS A LOT LONGER THAN WE HAVE EVER BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT A LOT LONGER THAN WE HAVE. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BENEFIT GREATLY FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE.
AND WHEN WHEN THIS, IF, IF, AND WHEN THIS GETS IMPLEMENTED, WILL WE BE PROVIDING THIS NEW CRITERIA TO THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY ARE REGISTERED, OR DO THEY HAVE TO RECEIVE A COPY OF THE, THE POLICY OR WHATNOT IN REGARDS TO THIS IN ORDER FOR THEM? ARE THEY ABLE TO, ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET A PERMIT FOR THIS, OR IS THIS JUST OKAY? THIS WILL BE A PERMANENT OKAY, THAT AND HONESTLY, THAT WAS WHAT MY QUESTION WAS LEADING TO. AND ON THE BUSINESSES, THERE'S BEEN SOME NEW STATE LAWS ON HOME BASED BUSINESSES AND WHAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ALLOW AND NOT ALLOW ON CERTAIN THINGS. AND SO I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE COVERED UNDER THE BUSINESSES AS WELL. OKAY. ALREADY. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. THANK YOU. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE BUSINESS USE I. I OWN A SHORT TERM RENTAL NOT NOT INSIDE MISSOURI CITY, BUT THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS WHEN SHE MENTIONED HAIR SALONS, PEOPLE WILL BOOK LIKE THE, THE LITTLE FAMOUS STYLIST WILL COME AND BOOK ONE OF THESE FOR THE DAY AND ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT. AND THEY VIDEO BLOGGER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WILL DO VIDEO SHOOTS AND WEIRD, YOU KNOW, THINGS GOING ON IN PLACES.
SO THAT ACTUALLY IS A THING. AND WE WENT FROM TWO DAY TO THREE DAY AND IT REALLY HELPED CUT OUT PARTIES. HOMEOWNERS DON'T WANT THESE PARTIES. THEY ARE A HEADACHE FOR HOMEOWNERS, FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS. BUT I WANT TO ASK, YOU MENTIONED HOT TAX AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD ON HERE. ARE WE NOT COLLECTING HOT TAX BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ORDINANCE TO COLLECT OR WE'RE NOT COLLECTING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SPECIFY THAT THESE THINGS FALL UNDER OUR HOT TAX LAWS, RULES, WHATEVER. CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF WHO THEY ARE. OKAY, SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE AIRBNB, VRBO, ALL THESE ENTITIES WHO ARE HAVE THE PLATFORMS THAT PEOPLE BOOK ON COLLECT THAT MONEY PER THE LOCALITY, AND THEY SHOULD BE HANDING IT OVER. THEY DON'T HAND IT TO THE SELLER AND SAY, HEY, WE HELD THIS MONEY AND NOW YOU GO PAY YOUR BILL. THEY PAY IT FOR US LIKE IT GETS PAID WELL. SO THEY SHOULD. THAT'S WHY WE WANT A THIRD PARTY VENDOR WHO HAS THE RESOURCES TO MANAGE AND MINE THOSE LOCATIONS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE 2 OR 3 STAFF PEOPLE HAVING TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK FOR ALL OF THOSE VARIOUS SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT'S ONLINE AND WHO'S WHO'S THE OWNER, WHO'S NOT. AND THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. AND IF I REMEMBER, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, OWNERS HAVE THE OPTION TO SAY THAT THEY WANT AIRBNB OR VRBO TO COLLECT AND PAY THE, THE APPLICABLE TAXES. AND SO IF YOU'RE IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT ENFORCING THAT AND, YOU KNOW, SO IS THE ENFORCEMENT ARM THAT WE NEED. OKAY. SO, SO AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE VENDOR SAID. IT SAYS ONCE, ONCE THEY RECOGNIZE THAT, OH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS, THEN OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AIRBNB AND VRBO BECAUSE IT'S JUST EASIER COMPANY. AND THE COMPANY SET IT UP WITH VRBO. SO THEY HAD TO HAVE SELECTED THAT ON MY BEHALF. CORRECT. SO WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE INDIVIDUALLY SETTING IT UP AND SAYING, NO, WE'RE GOOD. YEAH. OKAY, NOW I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. OKAY. AND SO YEAH, NO, THAT THAT REALLY COVERED IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION THAT WE'VE GOT HOT TAXES AND THEN WE'VE GOT LIKE OUR INSPECTION FEE WHERE WE GO SET THEM UP AND ALL THAT
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GOOD STUFF. SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO COLLECT MONEY FROM THESE PEOPLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU RECOGNIZE AND COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON, THANK YOU. MAYOR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. DO YOU GUYS KNOW OR HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HOT MISSOURI CITY WILL BE WHEN IT COMES TO EVENTS LIKE THIS? LIKE THE, THE NEW THE SOCCER EVENTS COMING. SO YOU DON'T KNOW HOW BUSY WE WILL BE. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY RENTAL HOMES KNOW. WE DO KNOW THAT AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WE HAVE JUST OVER 100 ACTIVE SHORT TERM RENTALS AT ANY AT ANY GIVEN TIME WHEN THERE'S NOT AN EVENT. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN OVER 300 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN LISTED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL SOMETIME DURING THE LAST YEAR OR TWO YEARS, WHATEVER THE TIME PERIOD WAS. SO YEAH, WE CAN KIND OF, WE CAN JUST KIND OF GUESS FROM THAT DATA THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE 100 THAT ARE REGULARLY, YOU KNOW, AIRBNBS. AND THEN WE'VE EITHER HAD SOME THAT MAYBE WERE AIRBNBS AND HAVE DECIDED NOT TO BE AIRBNBS OR MAYBE THE PROPERTY SOLD, OR MAYBE THEY JUST DO IT DURING, YOU KNOW, DURING THE SUPER BOWL, I'M GOING TO GO STAY WITH MY IN-LAWS AND I'M GOING TO RENT MY PLACE OUT AND PAY MY MORTGAGE THAT MONTH. I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT PEOPLE DO THIS. AND SO WE KNOW THAT. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 300 AND SOMETHING DIFFERENT PROPERTIES OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT HAVE, AT SOME GIVEN TIME, HAVE BEEN LISTED ON ONE OF THESE SITES.SO WITH THESE EVENT COMPANIES, EXCUSE ME, WITH THIS EVENT COMING IS VERY POPULAR AND INFLUX OF NEW APPLICANTS COME IN. ARE YOU GUYS READY TO RECEIVE THESE APPLICANTS OR TO GET THESE PERMITS? BECAUSE IT'S A SHORT TIME. I MEAN, ARE YOU ARE WE READY FOR IT OR THE BEAUTIFUL THING IS, IS THAT THIRD PARTY DOES IT ALL? THAT THIRD PARTY ACTUALLY DOES THE DOES THE PERMIT APPLICATION, THEY TAKE THE FUNDS, THEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT WE REQUIRE. RIGHT. SO, SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CHECK. BUT ONCE AN APPLICATION COMES IN, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL CHECK ON THAT. AND THEN THAT THIRD PARTY WOULD ISSUE THE PERMIT. THE THIRD PARTY WOULD COLLECT THE FUNDS, THE THIRD PARTY WOULD GIVE US THE FUNDS. SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEEN THE, THE BEST, YOU KNOW, THE BEST OPTION FOR, FOR US TO TRY TO MAINTAIN AND MANAGE THIS. AND AGAIN, I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES. WHAT DO YOU DO ON THE FRONT END? HOW DO YOU HOW DOES IT WORK ON THE BACK END? WHAT KIND OF STAFF TIME DOES IT TAKE? AND WE'RE FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THAT THIS WILL BE THIS IS A GOOD MODEL FOR US TO FOLLOW IN OUR CITY. MY LAST ONE IS THE POLICE PATROL. HOW ARE WE GOING TO WORK WITH THAT? ARE WE WORKING WITH FORT BEND COUNTY? BECAUSE IF WE I MEAN, BECAUSE I'M JUST REMEMBERING WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, WHEN PEOPLE WHEN THIS STARTED HAPPENING A LOT, IT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE RENTING PLACES, GOING, LIKE YOU SAID, STAYING WITH IN-LAWS, RENTING OUT THEIR HOUSES OR. WELL, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION AND ARE WE GOING TO HAVE MORE THE POLICE PATROLLING DURING THIS TIME MORE OR GETTING HELP FROM THE COUNTY OR OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES? SO NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYONE STILL CAN FEEL SAFE, BUT OTHER PEOPLE COMING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES IS GOING TO BE COMING HERE, OTHER STATES AND ALL THAT.
YEAH, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE BECAUSE OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND I'M ASSUMING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. OUR OUR PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME WHO ARE VISITING SOME PLACE AND, AND ARE JUST NEEDING A PLACE TO STAY. WE DO, WE, WE CAN GET WITH THIS COMPANY. THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WE HAVEN'T OPTED INTO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T PLANNED ON OPTING INTO ALL THESE. BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT COMPLAINT REPORTS THAT WE CAN PULL AND HEAT MAPS AS FAR AS COMPLAINTS ON PROPERTIES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT TO HELP US MANAGE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS AND WE AS WE SEE WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING BASED ON THE MODEL THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PLANNING ON ADOPTING, THEN WE CAN OPT INTO SOME OF THOSE THINGS OR OPT OUT. AND IF WE NEED TO, THEN WE CAN. BUT THE CITIES THAT I'VE TALKED TO HAVE HAVE NOT MENTIONED OTHER THAN THE PARTIES, THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE. AND THE MULTIPLE NIGHTS HAS BEEN A HUGE, YOU KNOW, DISTRACTOR FROM, FROM, FROM, FROM THOSE HAPPENING. OKAY, I RECOGNIZE THE MAYOR PRO TEM CLOSER. YES. DO YOU HAVE Y'ALL DONE ANY RESEARCH ON THE ANTICIPATED. INCOME, ANNUAL INCOME THAT WE CAN EXPECT FROM THE SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM RENTALS? YEAH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS WORTH THE MONEY WE WERE SPENDING FOR THE PARTY VENDOR. AND WE, WE, WE HAVE, WE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A NEW CITY HALL WITH THE FUNDS. IT, IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT AS WE START, BUT IT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF RUNNING THE PROGRAM. SO. AND THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR, THE SOFTWARE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, ANGEL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS ITEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPOKEN TO OUR RETREAT, BUT WE HAD OTHER TOPICS THAT WERE GOING THROUGH. SO AS, AS Y'ALL CREATE THIS AND COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION, MY
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RECOMMENDATION IS TO REALLY SIT THROUGH SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS IN THIS CITY, WHICH IS NOT JUST THE LEGAL TEAM WORKING WITH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, BUT YOU GOT CODE ENFORCEMENT, YOU GOT PERMITTING, YOU GOT CAUGHT, YOU GOT SO MANY DIFFERENT UMBRELLAS. ONCE THIS IS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL, THEN PEOPLE NEEDS TO HAVE THAT OPINION UPFRONT BEFORE AN ADOPTION IS DONE. AND THEN WE GO BACK AND WE'RE CHASING THE PROBLEM HOW TO FIX IT. RIGHT. SO I WOULD SAY GOING BACK TO WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A STATE LAW PROVISION. I KNOW I'M SAYING THIS IS NOT HERE BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE ASK FOR SOMETHING, SHE PULLS THE STATE LAW. BUT I KNOW WHEN SOME OF THESE INCIDENCES DO TAKE PLACE, WHAT ARE OUR RIGHTS AS A CITY DEPARTMENT ENFORCING WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE, WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE? AND I KNOW THEY HAVE THEIR OWN. AND ESPECIALLY GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF SOMEONE'S CALLING, COMPLAINING ABOUT THE REFRIGERATOR AND WORKING THE MEDICATION ISSUES, YOU KNOW, YOU. BECAUSE THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS MONICA, YOU HAD MENTIONED. SO THE MORE AND MORE AND MORE TEETH YOU PUT INTO, THE MORE AND MORE YOU GOTTA WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE. AND IF THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO'S DONE THIS IN THE PAST, THEN THAT'S WONDERFUL. THAT'S SEEING THAT WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHAT I HATE TO SEE IS US SPEND THIS MUCH TIME GOING THROUGH IT. AND THEN, YEAH, WE CAN'T PREDICT EVERYTHING AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT THERE'S ALMOST WORKING WITH SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS WILL TELL YOU WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY SEE FROM THEIR OWN ARENA. ONCE COUNCIL ADOPTS SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THAT DEPARTMENT? AND HOW DO THEY MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS? BECAUSE IF THE PERMITTING DOESN'T WORK IN IN LINE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND COURT, ALL OF THAT, THIS WILL BE A MESS, RIGHT? AND A DISASTER. AND, AND I THAT'S THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION. AND I KNOW THIS, THIS HOUSING ORDINANCE, RENTAL HOUSING ORDINANCE INCORPORATES SEVERAL DIFFERENT ASPECTS. AND ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL SIDE, WE HAVE HAD A COMPREHENSIVE TEAM FROM THE CITY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS EVEN FEASIBLE. POLICE, FIRE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS AND AND ABSOLUTELY. AND WE WILL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE WITH THE SENIOR HOUSING AND THE LONG TERM. MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO TO IMPLEMENT IT AND HAVE IT MAKE SENSE FOR US. SURE.SO THAT'S JUST MY POINT. AND YOU HEARD EVERYTHING THAT THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAD CONCERNS ABOUT OR THEIR THOUGHTS. THEY SUGGESTED IT. AND GOING THROUGH, JASON, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID EARLIER WAS WHEN THERE IS A ANY OF THESE TYPE OF ISSUES, CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER, I WOULD SAY CALL THREE. I MEAN, GO IN THERE AND TEXT 311. YES, BECAUSE THAT FORMS A DOCUMENTATION PURPOSES VERSUS US, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PUSHING RESIDENTS FOR THAT, BECAUSE IT FORMS SOME SORT OF A DOCUMENTATION VERSUS YOU SENDING IT TO A MEMBER OF COUNCIL. AND THEN WE START THE WHOLE PROCESS OF WRITING EMAILS, TEXT MESSAGES. THAT'S NOT HOW WE SHOULD WORK. SO WE SHOULD HAVE THE 311. THAT'S THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK. AND THE COOL THING ABOUT THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SHORT TERMS, IS WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE WHATEVER WE ASK THEM TO HAVE IN THE HOMES, WHETHER IT'S NON-EMERGENCY NUMBERS, OR WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS ON EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY ROOM IF WE WANT, LIKE WE CAN REQUIRE THAT. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION TO, TO HAVE THE 301 INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE IN THOSE IN THOSE HOUSES. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. MONICA, LET'S GO TO YOUR NEXT YOUR THIRD ITEM. YES. AND JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, WE WERE LOOKING TO BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, MAYOR, SOME OF THE PROVISIONS IN THERE DO REFLECT STATE LAW REGARDING THE ONE CENTRAL ROOM THAT MUST HAVE BACKUP. AND THEN ALSO FOR THE CONCERNS REGARDING THE VEHICLES PARKING ON THE SIDEWALKS. THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE ORDINANCES REGARDING ILLEGALLY PARKED VEHICLES AS WELL, SO THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. OKAY. SO REGARDING INACTIVE BUILDING PERMITS CURRENTLY UNDER STATE LAW, AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT BUILDING PERMITS EXPIRE AFTER TWO YEARS. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS ENCOURAGE FASTER CONSTRUCTION AND COMPLIANCE WITHIN THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD. SO INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING PERMIT EXPIRING, IT MAY GO INTO AN INACTIVE STATUS AFTER 180 DAYS WITHOUT PASSING AN INSPECTION BY THE CITY. SO BASICALLY, YOU'RE AT THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE NO LONGER MAKING FORWARD PROGRESS. IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN A PASSING INSPECTION WITHIN 180 DAYS. AND SO IF THAT IS THE THAT COULD BE A TRIGGERING MECHANISM FOR CREATING A PUBLIC
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NUISANCE AS WELL. ALSO, THERE IS A PROVISION WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION TO COMMENCE WITHIN 90 DAYS INSTEAD OF 180 DAYS. SO I SIGNED MYSELF UP BECAUSE THIS WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I CAME THROUGH THE PROCESS. THIS WAS IN DISTRICT C IN FIRST COLONY SIDE OF DISTRICT C. THERE'S BEEN A PERSON WHO HAS INQUIRED A PERMIT BUT HAS NOT REALLY STARTED THE WORK. IF NOT, THEY CAME TO THE TABLE VERY LATE AND IT'S JUST ONGOING. AND I AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND, MONICA, THERE'S A STATE LAW THAT SAYS THAT IF YOU INQUIRE FOR A PERMIT THAT YOU HAVE TWO YEARS TO START THE WORK, NOT COMPLETE THE WORK TO START THAT PROCESS. CORRECT. WELL, IT WOULD BE THAT THE PERMIT EXPIRES AFTER TWO YEARS. SO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE'RE SAYING THAT INSTEAD OF THE PERMIT INSPIRING EXPIRING, IT WILL GO INTO AN INACTIVE STATUS. AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO REACTIVATE THAT PERMIT.RIGHT. SO I MY SUGGESTION IS NOT THE 180 DAYS. IT SHOULD BE 90 DAYS. AND PART OF THE REASON IS THAT BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE IF YOU'RE A PERSON WHO'S LIVING NEXT TO THIS HOUSE, AND THEN YOU HAVE DEBRIS ALL OVER THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN TELL HOW A CONSTRUCTION SITE IS, THEY BRING IN MATERIALS AND IT JUST SITS THERE AND, YOU KNOW, RAIN AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT GETS WORSE. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THAT AND BRING IT BACK IN. A CONSTRUCTION OF A MAGNITUDE LIKE THIS CAN TAKE ON FOREVER. YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL IS ONE SIDE OF IT, BUT I'M TALKING MORE SO FOR RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? BECAUSE AND THEN THE BEAR, THE, THE, WHAT DOES THE HOA, BECAUSE MOSTLY HOA IS THE ONE THAT'S COMPLAINING TO US THAT IT'S, IT'S WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S AN ANNUAL HOA MEETING COMING UP. SO THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ASK THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, THE PERMITTING ALL NEED TO RELOOK AT THIS AND HAVE SOME MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION AND THINGS THAT WE CAN PERTAIN TO. OR IF NOT, WHEN THIS COME BEFORE US, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE AND I GET IT, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU COLLECT A PERMIT, YOU COME TO THE CITY AND YOU APPLY FOR A PERMIT AND YOU GET A PERMIT, THEN YOU SHOULD START WITHIN A WEEK OR SO OF YOUR CONSTRUCTION. SO THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN. OTHERWISE YOU CAN HAVE EVERY PERSON WHO GOES AND INQUIRES, PERMITS AND KNOCK THE BUILDING DOWN OR PARTIAL THE BUILDING DOWN, AND THEN YOU'LL BE SITTING FOR TWO YEARS. THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO. SO THESE NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND IF NOT, THEY LOSE THEIR PERMIT. THEY'LL HAVE TO REAPPLY FOR THE PERMIT. THAT'S ADDITIONAL PERMIT FEE AS WELL THAT THE CITY CAN INCUR. SO THOSE ARE MY SUGGESTIONS ON.
BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE WE HAVE BECOME THE MIDDLE PERSON BETWEEN THE PERSON WHO'S BUILDING THE CONTRACTOR AND THE HOA AND THE RESIDENTS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES IN BETWEEN US GETTING ATTACKED BECAUSE THIS IS THE CITY'S NOT DOING ANYTHING. WE DON'T SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE INSPECTING REGULARLY. WHEN THEY CALLED, THEY'LL COME BACK AND KEEP TELLING THEM, WELL, THEY HAVE THE PERMIT. THAT'S WHAT WE KEEP SAYING TO THESE, THESE RESIDENTS THAT THEY HAVE THE PERMIT. THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THIS. YOU CANNOT DO THIS IN ANY OTHER CITIES AND GET AWAY WITH IT, ESPECIALLY ONE NEARBY US. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF RULES AND REGULATIONS THEY HAVE. I'M SURE THEY'RE THEY'RE PART OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE STATE OF TEXAS LAW, BUT THEY HAVE SOMETHING MORE STRINGENT THAT HELPS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, HELPS THAT COMMUNITY TO DO TO LOOK BETTER. SO THOSE ARE MY SUGGESTIONS.
RECOGNIZING MAYOR PRO TEM CLOUSER. YES. SO YOUR SUGGESTION, MAYOR, IS TO GO FROM 180 DAYS TO 90 DAYS. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. BUT AGAIN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND COME BACK. SO I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, RULES ARE MADE FOR THE BAD PEOPLE, NOT FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE. RIGHT? IF WE, IF, IF WE SUGGEST 90 DAYS, LET'S SAY IN GOOD FAITH, THERE IS A NEIGHBOR WHO'S CONTRACTOR COULDN'T GET A SUPPLY MAYBE BECAUSE OF, OH, GOD, TARIFF TAX AND THEY COULDN'T GET SOME SUPPLIES THAT THEY NEEDED. WOULD IT BE THAT CASE SCENARIO? WHERE WOULD WE BE ABLE TO OFFER EXTENSIONS? TALK ME THROUGH THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTING IN GOOD FAITH. YOU KNOW, IN THESE SITUATIONS. SO I'LL SPEAK TO TWO THINGS. SO FIRST, WHEN WE BENCHMARK CITIES, USUALLY THE 180 DAYS WAS KIND OF WHERE MOST CITIES WERE FALLING IN. BUT TO ADD TO YOUR QUESTION REGARDING EXTENSIONS, THERE IS A PROVISION ALREADY WITHIN THIS
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ORDINANCE THAT BASICALLY THE APPLICANT CAN REQUEST AN EXTENSION FROM THE BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR 90 DAYS. OKAY, OKAY. AND WHAT IF IT COULD BE MULTIPLE TIMES IF NEEDED? OKAY.THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZE AND COUNCILMEMBER EMERY. YEAH, I GUESS THE THING THAT I WOULD BRING TO THE THE TABLE IS THAT WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE OF THESE TYPES OF HOMES THAT ARE BEING RENOVATED. FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE FLIPPING THEM AND THEN THEY'RE TRYING TO RENOVATE THEM AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO STAGE WHEN THEY CAN MAKE THE, THE CHANGES OR IMPROVEMENTS, WHATEVER IT IS.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SPARSE. IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE PREVALENT. I THINK THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE SEE, YOU KNOW, REMODELING AND RENOVATIONS LASTING OVER 180 DAYS. AND IF YOU LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE QUESTION OR IS QUESTIONED, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS AND, AND ELIMINATE THAT, THAT TYPE OF NUISANCE? YEAH, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. I HAVE ONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LASTED. JASON KNOWS ABOUT THIS MORE THAN 180 DAYS. AND THE BOTTOM LINE FOR HIM AND I SPOKE TO HIM DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS COMPLAINT. HIS THING WAS HIS FIRST CONTRACTOR TOOK THE MONEY AND AND LEFT. WELL, I MEAN, HE SHOULD HAVE REGULATIONS AND CONTRACTS IN PLACE. AND I ASKED, CAN YOU LEGALLY MAKE THIS PERSON DO SOMETHING? AND HE SAID THAT THE CONTRACT IS IN PLACE. HE'S BEEN DEALING WITH THE HIS ATTORNEYS LATER ON, AS IT PROGRESSED AND PROGRESSED AND PROGRESSED, AND THEN HE CAME BACK AND SAYS, WELL, THERE ARE CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, STIPULATIONS WERE NOT IN HIS CONTRACT AND BACK AND FORTH.
BUT BUT WHILE I GET ALL OF THAT, WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY THAT SUFFERS? RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE ON A WINDY DAY, YOU HAVE MATERIALS FLYING ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD, COMING ONTO THE STREETS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF REGULATIONS PUT IN PLACE JUST IN VALLEY ALONE. COUNCILMEMBER EMERY IS CORRECT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LOVES THAT TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD, DON'T WANT A COOKIE CUTTER HOME BUT WANTS TO UPDATE IT. BUT THESE THESE GOES ON FOREVER. AND YOU HAVE RESIDENTS WHO ARE SITTING THERE COMPLAINING. AND WE ARE REGULATED BY THIS 180 DAYS. I'M GLAD THAT MAYOR PRO TEM ASKED THAT QUESTION ABOUT 90 DAYS. PENALIZING OTHERS WHO ARE FOLLOWING RULES. BUT THEY HAVE EXTENSIONS. THEY CAN GO, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 EXTENSIONS, AND THAT'S PER THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER IT IS THAT THEY CAN COME TO AND SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE SUPPLIES OR WE'RE WAITING ON SOMETHING THAT CAN GET THROUGH THEM, AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TELL THE RESIDENTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE HOA THAT THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. OTHERWISE, WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING WE CAN'T DO NOTHING FOR 180 DAYS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE RULES ARE. AND 180 DAYS SEEMS NOTHING TO US. BUT WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN THAT COMMUNITY AND YOU AND YOU HAVE YOUR PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEING THIS HAPPENING EVERY DAY AND THINGS, TRASH IS BLOWING INTO THE YARD AND ALL OF THIS, IT IS A PROBLEM. SO ANYWAY, I YIELD BACK. SO I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS AND WORK WITH AGAIN. WORK WITH PERMITTING DEPARTMENT PLAYS A HUGE ROLE IN THIS AND HOW WHAT THEY SUGGEST, BECAUSE THEY SEE ALL THESE PROBLEMS, THEY HEAR THESE ISSUES. AFTERMATH. WHEN WE GET START GETTING THESE EMAILS AND I THINK CODE ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO BE ON THE TABLE, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO WORK TOGETHER TO GIVE YOU GUYS A COLLECTIVE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS. I MAY BE SAYING 90 DAYS, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE WHAT THEY RECOMMEND BECAUSE THEY'RE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD SUGGEST ON SOMETHING, BECAUSE THEY ARE PREVIEW TO THESE EMAILS THAT WE ALL GET AND WE IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
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ALRIGHT, SO SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THE TIME IS 6:29 P.M. AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE, 1.071 AND 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE THE CITY APPOINTED OFFICIALS, AS WELL AS BOTH THE ASSISTANT CITY THE TIMS[6. RECONVENE]
7:24 P.M. AND CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW BACK INTO CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING. 7:24 P.M.[01:30:12]
ASKING FOR ANY, ANY MOTIONS OR ANY WITH ANY ACTIONS. SEEING NONE, THIS MEAN THE TIME IS 725.THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOT
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.