[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:13] IS MONDAY, APRIL 27TH. WE'LL NOW CALL THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JOINT MEETING TO ORDER AT SIX VOLUME. PLEASE ORDER AT 6:02 P.M. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ROLL CALL. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNCIL. CHAIRMAN, PLEASE CERTIFY THE QUORUM FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. EVERYONE'S PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE VICE CHAIR. HE HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. CITY SECRETARY, DO WE [4. PUBLIC COMMENTS] HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST ON ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA? MR. MAYOR, ALL ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS CONSENT AGENDA. [5. CONSENT AGENDA] IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S BEEN A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. MR. MAYOR, IF WE CAN PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE? ABSOLUTELY. YAY! THANK YOU. MEMBER. RILEY. YES. MEMBER. EMERY. YES. MEMBER. CLOUSER. YES. MEMBER. ALLEY. MAYOR. ALLEYCAT. YES. MEMBER. THOMPSON. YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND STATE YOUR VOTE? YEAH. COMMISSIONER JAMES DAVIDSON. YES. COMMISSIONER DAVID ATWOOD. YES. COMMISSIONER. DWAYNE BOWDEN. YES. COMMISSIONER. JOJO. COMMISSIONER. DANVILLE. IS THAT A YES OR NO? PLEASE? YES. OKAY, I SAW YES. ROBIN. ARMSTRONG. YES. MR. MAYOR, THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. [a. Public Hearing - To receive comments for or against proposed amendment...] ITEM NUMBER SIX, OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. SIX A IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN OF THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN REGARDING SIENA AREA CIRCULATION. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS ITEM FOR PUBLIC HEARING. YES, MISTER MAYOR, WE DO HAVE THE PUBLIC THAT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ELIJAH GILBERT, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. HELLO. I HAVE A HANDOUT THAT MAY HAVE NOT MADE ITS WAY TO YOU, SO I'M GOING TO PASS THIS AROUND. CITY SECRETARY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THE HANDOUT YOU'LL NOTICE IN A MOMENT IS A COPY OF THE. HOLD ON. HOLD ON SIR, PLEASE. THE TIMER. STAFF, IF I CAN PLEASE SEE THE TIMER ON THE SCREEN. EXCEPT FOR THREE MINUTES. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS CITY SECRETARY. WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM LAST TIME. YES WE DID. IT'S ONLY FAIR TO THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY SPEAK. THEY KNOW THE TIME WHERE THEY'RE AT. SO PLEASE EXCUSE US. OF COURSE. I CAN SET A TIMER ON MY PHONE IF YOU LIKE. OKAY. [00:05:25] ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD, SIR. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ELIJAH GILBERT. I LIVE AT 3119 LONDON LANE, MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS, 77459 IN THE SIENNA COMMUNITY. AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROPOSED THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT WE ARE SPEAKING ON TODAY. SO WHAT I'VE HANDED OUT TODAY IS A COPY OF THE DRAFT PLAN WITH SOME INITIAL TRAFFIC COUNT DATA OVERLAID ON THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES WITHIN SIENNA. SO I'LL GET TO WHY I DID THAT IN A MOMENT. BUT FIRST I WANT TO MENTION THAT THE PROPOSED PLANS TO OPEN UP SIDE STREETS TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC, WHETHER IT BE EVERYDAY TRAFFIC OR EMERGENCY TRAFFIC, LARGELY GOES THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY BUILT FOR THIS HIGH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC. SO WE ALL KNOW THAT TRAFFIC PLANS TYPICALLY HAVE A CERTAIN WIDTH RESTRICTION FOR ROADS THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE A NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TRAVELING EVERY DAY. AND A LOT OF THIS DATA IS BASED UPON TRAFFIC COUNT INFORMATION. SO THE STREETS THAT THEY ARE INTENDING TO OPEN UP TO EITHER ADD A AN EXIT OUT OF SIENNA TO MCKEEVER ROAD OR FENN ROAD, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE TWO THAT I SPEAK MOST CLOSELY TO TODAY BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING RIGHT OUT OF MY MY STREET ACTUALLY GOING TO REALLY DO NOTHING TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM, GIVEN THAT THEY ARE MOVING OUT OF ROADS THAT ARE ALREADY IMPACTED, PARTICULARLY AT 521 AND HIGHWAY SIX. SO WE FEEL AS NOT ONLY MY FAMILY AND FOLKS THAT LIVE ON OUR STREET, THAT TO OPEN UP THESE ROADS FOR TRAFFIC ALLEVIATION, IT WOULD CAUSE MAJOR ISSUES WITH CONGESTION AND POTENTIAL SAFETY HAZARDS. SO JUST ON OUR STREET, LONDON LANE, WHICH IS WHERE HE USED TO LIVE, WHICH IS GREAT TO SEE HIM AGAIN, HE LIVED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, JUST ON OUR STREET. WE HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 35 TO 45 CHILDREN, ALL HIGH SCHOOL AGE OR YOUNGER, AND THEY'RE ROUTINELY OUT ON THE STREET. THEY'RE PLAYING EVERYWHERE. AND TO ESSENTIALLY CREATE ANOTHER EXIT OUT OF SIENNA, WHERE YOU COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY THOUSANDS OF CARS A DAY, WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE FOR ALL OF US WHO ARE RESIDENTS. SO QUICKLY NOTING THE TRAFFIC COUNT DATA THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU CAN SEE THE PEAK TRAFFIC COUNT VALUES COMING IN AND OUT OF SIENNA ARE RIGHT AT THE HUB ON SIENNA PARKWAY AT HIGHWAY SIX, SO THAT'S A 50,000 PER DAY TRAFFIC CAR TRAFFIC. THAT'S THIS IS 2025 DATA THAT WE'RE PULLING FROM CLARITAS TO PROVIDE THIS. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND THE OTHER ROADS THAT COME IN AND OUT OF SIENNA, LIKE SIENNA RANCH OR EVEN OUT MCKEEVER ROAD, YOU SEE THAT VERY SIMILAR VALUES THERE. SO I PUT THIS TOGETHER JUST TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE THOUSANDS, IF NOT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF SIENNA AND TO SOMEHOW ROUTE THEM THROUGH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A STREET THAT'S ONLY 35FT WIDE, WHICH IS BARELY TWO LANES. IT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE A NIGHTMARE FOR US. SO MY TIME IS UP, SO THANK YOU, I YIELD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, DAVID BRAMER. PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DAVID BRAMMER. I LIVE AT 2303 MILLER ROAD, ROSHARON, TEXAS, 77583. I DO NOT LIVE IN MISSOURI CITY. IN FACT, I LIVE AT THE PROPOSED INTERSECTION OF WALTERS LANE, OUR WATERS LAKE ROAD AND MILLER ROAD, AND I OBJECT TO THE PROPOSED DESIGN BECAUSE OF THE FOUR LANE BOULEVARD WITH DEAD END INTO A TWO LANE ROAD, CAUSING A SIGNIFICANT BOTTLENECK THERE, AND ALSO AT MILLER ROAD AND. 521, I DROVE 16 MILES TO THIS MEETING, ALL ON BOULEVARDS AND ALL ON HIGHWAYS EXCEPT FOR ONE ROAD, AND THAT IS MILLER ROAD. CURRENTLY, MILLER ROAD IS A TWO LANE ROAD WITHOUT TURN LANES. IT ALSO DOES NOT HAVE STOPLIGHTS. AT 521. THE NORTH SIDE IS AN AGRICULTURAL WATERWAY. THE SOUTH SIDE IS A IS LINED WITH DRIVEWAYS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE. ONCE AGAIN, I OBJECT TO THIS PROPOSAL. THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY AT A DEAD END INTERSECTION, [00:10:06] WILL ONLY INCREASE THE RISK OF COLLISION AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, INCREASE OR TRANSFER THE CONGESTION OF ALREADY BUSY INTERSECTION AT MILLER ROAD AND 521 ONTO FIVE ONTO MILLER ROAD, ITSELF AN INTERSECTION, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY DOES NOT HAVE LIGHTS AND DOES NOT HAVE TURN LANES. HAVING LIVED IN MILLER ROAD SINCE 2014, I HAVE SEEN AN EVER INCREASING AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH. ON 521. THE NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THERE ARE COMMON. THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION. ALREADY THE. THE FOUR YEAR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, ALREADY ON 521 WILL NOT ONLY MAKE THIS WORSE, BUT DIVERTING TRAFFIC EAST ONTO MILLER ROAD THROUGH SIENNA TO AVOID THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT NOW MILLER ROAD WILL BECOME A DIVERSION AWAY FROM THAT TRAFFIC. ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I OBJECT TO THIS PROPOSED DESIGN BECAUSE PUTTING A FOUR LANE BOULEVARD DATING INTO A TWO LANE ROAD WILL ONLY CAUSE A TRAFFIC BOTTLENECK, AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE PLAN BE REVISED TO PROVIDE A SAFE AND MORE CONSISTENT ROADWAY DESIGN. CURRENTLY, THIS ROADWAY DESIGN WILL IS PROPOSING TO MOVE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ONTO A TWO LANE ROAD FROM BOTH 521 AND ALSO FROM WATERS LAKE ROAD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. TIAGO. SALLY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS TIAGO SALAS. MY ADDRESS IS 5222 NEW POINTE DRIVE. THAT IS FRESNO, TEXAS, 77545. I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUBLISHED IN YOUR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT A SECTION OF ROAD THAT YOU'VE NUMBERED NUMBER NINE DISCONNECTS MCKEEVER ROAD THROUGH NEW POINT DRIVE TO REACH HIGHWAY SIX. THIS. THIS SECTION OF ROAD IN NEW POINT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO TO HOLD THIS MUCH TRAFFIC. NEW POINT IS A A CLOSED ONE END STREET AND IT IS A TWO LANE, ALMOST SEMI-PRIVATE ROAD THAT WAS NEVER INTENDED STRUCTURALLY OR DESIGN WISE TO HANDLE THIS LEVEL OF TRAFFIC. THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO HANDLE THIS, YOU KNOW, AN INCREASED SIZE OF ROAD OR TRAFFIC. YOU WOULD BE ENCROACHING ON EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY IF YOU ATTEMPTED TO DO THIS. AND. NOT TO MENTION YOU WOULD INCREASE OUR CRIME RATES IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WOULD DECREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUES. AND HONESTLY, YOU WOULD YOU WOULD BREAK A LOT OF PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS THAT THEY'VE INVESTED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S A MAJOR ONE. THOSE TECHNICALITIES ASIDE, NEIGHBORHOOD NEW POINT IS A SPECIAL PLACE. IF YOU KNOW IT, IT, IT TRANSPORTS YOU TO A COUNTRY VIBE AS SOON AS YOU DRIVE IN. AND THE WAY IT'S BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT THROUGH 40 YEARS IS BECAUSE IT'S A ONE WAY STREET. THE RESIDENTS HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF CARE TO, TO PROTECT THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND EVEN PLAYING AROUND WITH THE IDEA OF PUTTING UP A SECURITY GATE TO TO FURTHER PROTECT THAT INTO THE FUTURE. HAVING A, A, A ROAD THAT WOULD BRING TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY NEGATE A LOT OF THE ADVANTAGES THAT BROUGHT A LOT OF US TO LIVE THERE. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CAMILO CONTRERAS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. YES. MY NAME IS CAMILO CONTRERAS, 5111. YOU .577545. AND I'M DEFINITELY OPPOSED TO THE TRAFFIC BEING DIRECTED INTO NEW POINT ESTATES. THE PROPOSED. THE PROPOSAL IS TO DIRECT [00:15:01] TRAFFIC FROM MCKEEVER AND INTERCONNECTED TO NEW POINT DRIVE. YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY THE ROAD IS VERY NARROW. IT'S ASPHALT CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE DITCHES ON BOTH SIDES. CURRENTLY YOU HAVE A GARBAGE TRUCK COMING DOWN. IT'S LIKE PLAYING CHICKEN BECAUSE IT'S SO NARROW. YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL FLOW OF TRAFFIC. ON TOP OF THAT, THERE'S SOME FAST FOOD BUSINESSES WHERE NEW POINT ENTER HIGHWAY SIX. THERE'S A FRIED CHICKEN PLACE IN THE PIZZA PLACE AT THAT TIME OF DAY. WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH VELOCITY OF TRAFFIC, PEOPLE ARE LINED UP GOING INTO THE PARKING LOT TO WAIT TO GET INTO TO GET THEIR ORDER OR TO THE THEIR PICKUP WINDOW. THEIR TRAFFIC EXTENDS OUT. YOU NEED TO GO OUT THERE ABOUT 430 OR 5, AND IT LASTS A COUPLE OF HOURS. CAN YOU IMAGINE? YOU ALREADY HAVE TRAFFIC BACKED UP RIGHT NOW. IMAGINE AN INFLUX OF TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK YOU NEED TO RECONSIDER. AND I DEFINITELY OPPOSED TO IT. YOU KNOW, MISSOURI CITY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN ISSUING PERMITS. I KEEP TRACK WITH WHAT GOES ON IN SIENNA VIA FACEBOOK. EVERYONE'S ALWAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE MORNINGS, TAKES THEM 45 MINUTES. SO HERE WE ARE. YOU'RE DIRECTING TRAFFIC INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE SIENNA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN ALL THESE BUILDERS REQUESTED THE BUILDING PERMITS? I'M AN ENGINEER. THERE'S CHARTS THAT TELL YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT WATER FLOWING INTO PIPES. THERE'S CHARTS ABOUT TRAFFIC. WHERE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE PLANNING COMMITTEE THAT PLANNED THIS MASTER COMMUNITY? OKAY. AND HERE WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE THEY HAD AN EMERGENCY. SO NOW THEY'RE STILL CONTINUING TO BUILD, BEING AN ENGINEER, I WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMITTEES AND THEIR JOB OR LACK OF DOING IT. SO I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SMALL ROAD THAT WE HAVE THAT IS ASPHALT. IT'S NOT BUILT TO HANDLE ALL THE TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU START DIVERTING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LESLIE CONTRERAS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS LESLIE CONTRERAS AT 5111 NEW POINT DRIVE, FRESNO, TEXAS 77545. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL A FEW DAYS AGO, SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT IT. AND I HAVEN'T LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY LONG. BUT I DO KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY THAT I DEFINITELY AM AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW. THE STREETS, IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID HERE, BUT THE STREETS ARE VERY NARROW. IT'S DIFFICULT SOMETIMES FOR EVEN TWO CARS TO PASS THERE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A LARGER VEHICLE. ALSO, THERE'S LARGE DITCHES ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ACCOMMODATE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND EXPAND THIS. I KNOW IT WOULD BE A BIG UNDERTAKING, AND I ALSO FEEL IT MIGHT NOT BE VERY SAFE AS WELL. THE WAY THAT THE THE ROAD LIES. BUT ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT THERE NEARBY. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT MANY TIMES TO GET THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. AND THERE'S ALSO A LIGHT AT DERBY LANE AND HIGHWAY SIX. AND I THINK BRINGING TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE IS JUST GOING TO CAUSE MORE OF A DELAY WITH THAT LIGHT. SO IT'S GOING TO GET STUCK. IT'S GOING TO BACK UP INTO THE NEW POINT DRIVE. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE CONCERNS. LIKE I SAID, I THINK LOOKING INTO THIS, THERE'S GOING TO BE EVEN MORE POSSIBLE PROBLEMS WITH IT. SO I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST IT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. BARRY BRAZILE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. BARRY BRAZILE. ADDRESS IS 5019 NEWPOINT DRIVE, NEWPOINT ESTATES, FRESNO, TEXAS, 77545. COMMISSIONERS. COUNCILMEN, MAYOR, THANK YOU SO [00:20:03] MUCH. MOST OF THE THINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ECHOED AS FAR AS NEW POINT DRIVE IS CONCERNED. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT ALREADY WAS 50 K TRAP. YOU KNOW, CARS PER TRAFFIC EACH WAY. I MEAN THAT THING IS CONGESTED. IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. I LIVED IN SIENNA FOR 20 YEARS BEFORE I MOVED TO NEW POINT ESTATES. IT'S NEVER BEEN PLANNED WELL, AND IT'S NEVER BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC THAT SIENNA HAS HAS PROVIDED. SO IT'S IT'S GOING TO CONSTANTLY BE A PROBLEM. AND I GET IT. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A GAS BLOWOUT OR SOMETHING THAT HAD SIENNA BACKED UP FOR AN AWFUL LONG TIME, WHICH IS HORRIBLE. BUT WHEN WE GO TO THESE LITTLE IF WE THINK ABOUT ARTERIES, CAPILLARIES AND VESSELS, I MEAN, SIENNA PARKWAY IS A VESSEL. WE NEED AN ARTERY, RIGHT? WHEN YOU LOOK AT NEW POINT DRIVE, THAT'S A CAPILLARY TO A CAPILLARY. I MEAN, IT'S JUST A TINY LITTLE BITTY ROAD. AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE BECAUSE OF CAESARS PIZZA. PIZZA. I CALL IT PIZZA. PIZZA CHURCH'S CHICKEN. WHEN YOU GET FOUR CARS THAT WANT TO PICK UP PIZZA OR CHICKEN, IT BACKS UP DERBY ROAD, WHICH YOU CANNOT GET TO HIGHWAY SIX. SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM. OUR PREVIOUS REPRESENTATIVES HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THAT FOR PROBABLY 15 YEARS. IT HASN'T BEEN FIXED YET. THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. WE'VE GOT TWO LITTLE OTHER CAPILLARIES COMING OFF OF MCKEEVER ROAD. MCKEEVER GOES OBVIOUSLY TO SIX RIGHT BY THE AIRPORT, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT'S IN ARCOLA SPEED TRAP, YOU KNOW, 40 MILES TO 30 MILES AN HOUR. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP ANYBODY. IF YOU LOOK AT NIGHT ROAD NIGHT ROAD'S A GOOD SHOT STRAIGHT TO THE TOLL ROAD. I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD LITTLE SHORTCUT. I USE IT ALL THE TIME, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE HEAVY TRAFFIC IS ALL BACKED UP. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THING COULD HANDLE THE TRAFFIC WITHOUT MAJOR EXPANSION THROUGH THAT AREA. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT 300 YARDS, 400 YARDS PAST WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING THROUGH NEWPOINT DRIVE IS SOUTH POST OAK DRIVE, WHICH IS THE NEW SCHOOL, BEAUTIFUL LITTLE SCHOOL THAT'S GOT GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S A GOOD ROAD, BUT IT BACKS INTO SIX. YOU'D HAVE TO DO SOME MAJOR TRAFFIC PLANNING TO GET PEOPLE TO TURN LEFT AND RIGHT. YOU EITHER GO THE TOLL ROAD OR GO TO 520. AT THAT POINT, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT NEW POINT DRIVE, OBVIOUSLY THAT THING, I MEAN THOSE ROADS ARE HORRIBLE. WE NEED THOSE ROADS REPAIRED ANYWAY, BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT STUFF IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE. SO MY PROPOSAL IS TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING AND TAKE A LOOK AT REALLY PLANNING SIENNA, EXPAND IT TO EIGHT LANES, WHICH IS WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE ANYWAY. AND THEN YOU CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WILLIAM. NELLY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS WILLIAM NELLY. I'M AT 1910 WEATHERBY LANE IN NEW POINT ESTATES. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO POINT OUT HAVE BEEN SAID. I THOUGHT A LITTLE BIT OF A VISUAL MIGHT GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO MAPS THAT ARE SIDE BY SIDE THERE, THE FIRST MAP THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR LEFT SIDE IS ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM YOUR DRAFT. AND THE SECOND MAP IS JUST A GOOGLE MAP. IT'S PRETTY FAIRLY REPRESENTATIVE OF YOURS. I THOUGHT MAYBE A LITTLE CLARITY, SINCE THE OTHER ONE DIDN'T COME THROUGH VERY WELL, WOULD BE OF ASSISTANCE THERE. NUMBER NINE YOU SEE ON THE ORIGINAL MAP IS WHERE THE ENTRY POINT FOR NEW POINT IS THE BIG BLUE LINE. UNDERNEATH IT IS MCKEEVER. THERE'S ANOTHER LINE OFF TO THE LEFT OF THE NINE THAT GOES INTO SIENNA PLANTATION. THAT IS STEEP BANK TRACE. ONE OF THE THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THAT, AS MR. BRAZILE SAID, YOU CAN GET THROUGH TO SIX ON KNIGHT ROAD, OR YOU CAN GO DOWN AND YOU CAN GET ON TO SIX FROM MCKEEVER. THAT'S OUTPOST FROM WHERE THIS ENTRY POINT GOING INTO NEW POINT IS, IT'S 1.3 MILES TO KNIGHT ROAD. IT'S HALF A MILE TO SOUTH POST [00:25:08] OAK. SO THAT PUTS NEW POINT ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM THAT ENTRY TO SIENNA. SO YOU'RE PUTTING TWO BRIDGES A QUARTER MILE APART, JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ENTRY POINTS ON THERE. THERE'S A LIGHT BLUE LINE WHERE YOU SEE NINE CONNECT TO THE RED DOTTED LINE, WHICH IS MARKED MORE OR LESS AS EIGHT. IF YOU TURN THE PAGE, YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES ON THERE, YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE TO THE LEFT ON THE TOP. AND THAT IS NEW POINT. LOOKING AT THAT ENTRY POINT. AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE SECOND PICTURE ON THERE, YOU'LL SEE A GATE. IT'S NOT VERY EASY TO MAKE OUT, BUT THAT GATE IS THE ENTRY POINT THAT IS SUGGESTED ON YOUR DRAFT. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE THIRD PICTURE, THAT IS THE GATE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT IS INTO THE AIRPORT PARKING LOT OR INTO THE AIRPORT RUNWAY SPACE. AND THE LAST PICTURE ON THE OTHER SIDE IS WHERE IT SHOWS THAT ROAD EXITING. AND I ASSUME THIS IS GOING TO LOOK TO GO FROM 9 TO 8 AND TIE THAT IN THAT TRAFFIC IN THAT WAY STRAIGHT INTO NEW POINT. IT'S JUST A LITTLE CONFUSING AS TO HOW THE AIRPORT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT. AND IF THE AIRPORT'S AT THE END OF A RUNWAY LIKE THAT, IS THAT HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT? SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE PLANNING TO GO ACROSS THAT AIRPORT PROPERTY, OR DOES THE AIRPORT KNOW ABOUT IT OR HOW THAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED? THE LAST THING EVERYONE HAS SPOKE FROM NEW POINT IS MENTIONED. THE CHOKE POINT THAT IS ACTUALLY DERBY. DERBY GOES INTO NEW POINT. WELL, ACTUALLY THERE'S A THERE'S A STOP SIGN AT NEW POINT WHERE DERBY AND IT CROSS. SO IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT RUN FROM NEW POINT ALL THE WAY THROUGH. YOU HAVE A TURN THERE. YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A STOP SIGN THERE. THEN YOU GET MAYBE 200FT UP AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT YOU SEE HERE. THAT'S SIX TIME, MA'AM. THAT IS TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. ESTHER DUNN. MISS DAN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. HI THERE. ESTHER DUNN AND I LIVE AT 1918 MOSSBACK CIRCLE, NEW POINT ESTATES ALSO. AND I'M HERE ALSO TO JUST DECLARE THAT WE ARE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL OF GOING THROUGH NEW POINT. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. WE VOTED FOR YOU GUYS. SO WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL FOR YOU, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN A COMMUNITY. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS. IT IS A SAFE COMMUNITY. IT IS A NO IN AND OUT. I'M A NEW GRANDMOTHER. I, I AM ON THOSE ROADS EVERY DAY WALKING ABOUT AN HOUR. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S NO WALK LANES, THERE'S NO BIKE LANES. IT IS A ONE AND A HALF SPACE CAR. IT'S NOT EVEN A TWO CAR ROAD. AND THAT ROAD DOES NOT IS NOT GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE UNLESS YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IN BIKE LANES AND, AND TRAFFIC AND THEN DO A BRIDGE TO GET OVER THAT BAYOU TO GET TO MCKEEVER. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE WONDERFUL ROAD THAT IS RIGHT THERE ALREADY BUILT. THAT'S THE 2 TO 4 LANES THAT GOES THAT SOUTH POST OAK THAT IS JUST SHORTLY AWAY FROM US. THAT GOES RIGHT TO MCKEEVER. IT'S A PERFECT DIVERSION. IT'S HARDLY EVER USED. THERE'S THERE'S HARDLY EVER ANYBODY ON THAT ROAD. SO I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANT TO ADD TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TAKE AWAY THE QUALITIES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THIS ISSUE. AND THIS WAS BROUGHT UP MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, PROBABLY AROUND 15 YEARS AGO. AND IT WAS SQUASHED BECAUSE OF PROBABLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT BEING FOR THIS. AND WE JUST REALLY WANT YOU TO HEAR US. THIS IS A SMALL LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT. WE'D LIKE TO KEEP OUR VALUE UP. YOU GUYS GET OUR TAXES, YOU GET A LOT OF TAX MONEY. AND IF YOU DO DO A ROAD LIKE THIS, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE. I THINK THE VALUES ARE GOING TO GO DOWN IN THAT PROPERTY AND IT'S GOING TO HURT MISSOURI CITY FINANCIALLY. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. NINAN MATTHEW. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS NINAN MATTHEW. I LIVE IN 10,007 REGAL BEND DRIVE, MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS. 77459. VERY SIMPLE. FOUR YEARS AGO. FIVE YEARS AGO, I MOVED HERE TO SIENNA. I FROM OUT OF STATE, SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN SIENNA OTHER THAN THE BEAUTIFUL DIVERSITY AND THE ABILITY FOR MY KIDS TO GROW UP WITH KIDS LIKE US. SO I MOVED. AND WITHIN [00:30:02] THE FIRST YEAR OF LIVING IN SIENNA, I NOTICED ISSUES. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WAS FROM LIONETTI ALL THE WAY TO SIENNA PARK AND NOT SIENNA PARKWAY SIENNA RANCH. THERE WERE. THERE WERE TIMES WHEN IT TOOK ME AN HOUR TO GO FROM THAT POINT TO THAT POINT ON SIENNA PARKWAY OR AROUND RIDGE POINT, AND IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE. WHEN I WORK FROM HOME TO CALL IN AND SAY, HEY, I WORK FROM HOME, BUT IT TOOK ME AN HOUR AND A HALF TO DROP MY KIDS OFF AND COME BACK. I SENT AN EMAIL FOUR YEARS AGO TO THIS TO HER WAS IN POWER AT THAT POINT, AS WELL AS TO FORT BEND COUNTY TO TELL THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. THIS DOES NOT WORK. WATERS LAKE AND SIENNA PARKWAY FROM LIONETTI TO HIGHWAY SIX HAS ABOUT 15 LIGHTS AND FIVE MILES. THAT'S IT. FIVE MILES. WHEN IT TAKES. THE SHORTEST I'VE EVER BEEN ABLE TO DO IT IS ABOUT TEN MINUTES, AND THAT'S USUALLY AT 10 P.M. MIDNIGHT, THOSE TYPE OF TIMES. BUT OTHERWISE DURING THE DAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT 2025 MINUTES. THAT IS NOT THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. SIENNA PARKWAY SHOULD NOT END AT GLENDALE LAKES, SORRY, SIENNA PARKWAY AT THE AT THE END WHERE IT GOES TO 521 ENDS RIGHT NOW AT A DEAD END, THERE'S GLENDALE LAKES DRIVE THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO IT, LIKE 0.2 MILES. THERE'S TWO LIGHTS BETWEEN THEM. MAKES NO SENSE HOW THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED. AGAIN, THAT WAS A PROPOSAL THAT I SENT. THIS PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN IS A BAND AID. IT DOES NOT FIX ANYTHING. IT IS MORE SO OF, OH, LET'S MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY. PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY BETWEEN 520 AND ALL THE WAY TO STEEP. BANK CHASE HAS NO OTHER WAY IN OR OUT EXCEPT FOR SIENNA PARKWAY. PEOPLE ALWAYS TELL US GO OUT THROUGH. 521 NO, THAT IS NOT AN OPTION. THERE. THIS WITHIN THE GAS LEAK TILL TO LAST FRIDAY. LAST THURSDAY THERE WERE THREE STOPPAGES IN SIENNA PARKWAY THAT DID NOT ALLOW US TO GO ANYWHERE IN OR OUT OF SIENNA. WE WENT UP, WE GOT TURNED AROUND, WENT DOWN, WE COULD NOT GET OUT. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. ADDING A THIRD LANE IS NOT AN OPTION. IT'S WHEN THEY DO CONSTRUCTION DURING THE SUMMER, IT SHUTS DOWN SIENNA AND SCHOOLS ARE NOT EVEN OPEN. I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS, BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT MORE. MORE ON THE OPEN SIDE. INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DO A QUICK FIX FOR THAT IS TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO. WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM OUR CITY ENGINEER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THAT, SIR? OKAY. GOOD EVENING. CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VINCENZO CORAZZA, YOUR CITY ENGINEER. I'LL BE PRESENTING ITEM SIX A REGARDING UPDATE TO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE ROUTES TO SIENNA PARKWAY, AS WELL AS CONNECTING EXISTING ROADS TO FACILITATE EMERGENCY ACCESS OR EVACUATION. BECAUSE, AS YOU MAY RECALL AND WAS MENTIONED HERE EARLIER ON FEBRUARY 13TH, THERE WAS A GAS LEAK. AND ON APRIL 9TH THERE WAS SOME LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION THAT CLOSED SIENNA PARKWAY. WE'RE HERE TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON CHANGES TO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, SPECIFICALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO SIENNA PARKWAY. WE'RE SEEKING FEEDBACK ONLY, SO THERE WOULD BE NO ACTION FROM EITHER THE PA COMMISSIONERS OR CITY COUNCIL. TONIGHT, I'VE INCLUDED A TIMELINE ON THE NEXT STEPS AFTER TONIGHT. OKAY, THAT IT? SO WHAT IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE? I JUST PAUSE A LITTLE BIT. IF YOU WANTED TO SEE THE NEXT STEPS. SO WHAT IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN INCLUDED AS PART OF OUR MOBILITY MASTER PLAN? IT IS A VISIONARY DOCUMENT, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, DEVELOPED IN PART WITH THE TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT PLAN. IN 2011, THE [00:35:05] MOBILITY MASTER PLAN WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2023. TONIGHT'S ITEM IS JUST TO AMEND OR UPDATE THE PLAN FOCUSING ON SIENNA PARKWAY. SO OUR STEPS FOR PROJECT DELIVERY AFTER THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN INCLUDES A CONCEPTUAL IDENTIFY IDENTIFYING FUNDING, FEASIBILITY OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT OF WAY OR LAND ACQUISITION DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY THE LAST SLIDE. THERE WE GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. SO THIS IS THE OVERALL MAP OF THE AREA. THE PURPLE BACKGROUND IS THE CITY LIMITS. AND THE LIGHT GREEN BACKGROUND IS THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OR ETJ IN THE SIENNA AREA, APPROXIMATELY 22,000 HOMES ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS. AND THE ETJ, WITH ROUGHLY 15,000 OF THOSE HOMES IN THE ETJ. SO YOU SEE, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT MOBILITY NEED. THE ORANGE DOTTED LINES AND LETTER SEGMENTS ARE WHAT WE KNOW ARE PLANNED OR IN DESIGN STAGES FROM OTHER AGENCIES. FOR EXAMPLE, SEGMENT A HERE, SEGMENT A, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT TOP LEFT OF THE MAP. WE KNOW FROM FORT BEND TOLL AUTHORITY. THEY'RE EXTENDING THE FORT BEND TOLLWAY ACROSS THE BRAZOS RIVER. SO HIGHLIGHTED HERE. OKAY, IS SIENNA PARKWAY FROM STATE HIGHWAY SIX. IT RUNS NORTH SOUTH FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE LENGTH, ROUGHLY FIVE MILES, AND EAST WEST FOR ABOUT ANOTHER THREE MILES TO CONNECT TO FM 521. SOUTH OF MCKEEVER. AS YOU ACTUALLY HEARD FROM ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THERE'S VERY LIMITED CIRCULATION AS WE'RE APPARENTLY WITH THE RECENT SIENNA PARKWAYS, PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY'RE WAITING FOR A LONG TIME. SO SINCE THOSE EVENTS, CITY STAFF MEMBERS OF BOTH CITY COUNCIL AND COMMISSION HAVE MET WITH DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS DISCUSSING OPTIONS TO MOVE FORWARD, INCLUDING WIDENING SIENNA PARKWAY AS WELL AS ALTERNATE ROUTES. SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GO OVER THOSE ALTERNATE ROUTE OPTIONS WITH YOU. I'LL DISCUSS OUR SHORT, MEDIUM AND LONG TERM IDEAS. PUBLIC INPUT AND FEEDBACK IS ALWAYS WELCOME. SO SHORT TERM. THERE WE GO. OKAY, IN THE SHORT TERM, WHICH IS BETWEEN 1 TO 5 YEARS, WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME SEGMENTS THAT ARE FEASIBLE TO IMPLEMENT AND MAKE GOOD CONNECTIONS FOR MOBILITY, AS WELL AS EVACUATION ROUTES. SEGMENT 15 INVOLVES A BRIDGE OVER THE GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY CANAL CONNECTING BESE PASSAGE. AND SEGMENT 14 EXTENDS WATERS LAKE BOULEVARD SOUTH TO MILLER ROAD. OKAY. SO THIS ONE I DISCUSSED THE MEDIAN TERMS, WHICH IS ABOUT 5 TO 10 YEARS. WE DO NEED A NORTH SOUTH ALTERNATE TO SIENNA PARKWAY. THERE ARE A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED ISSUES HERE THAT WE NEED TO ACQUIRE RIGHT AWAY. LAND. FIND FUNDING SOURCES FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALTERNATE ONE IS, AS POINTED OUT BY THE PURPLE LINES, THE PURPLE ARROWS LINK SIENNA PARKWAY TO STATE HIGHWAY SIX. BY UTILIZING THE EXISTING ROADWAYS AND CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION GAPS THAT INCLUDE FOUR, EIGHT, AND NINE HERE. ALTERNATE TWO SHOWN WHERE THE GREEN ARROWS ARE POINTING TO LINKS SIENNA PARKWAY TO MCKEEVER ROAD AND CONNECTS SIENNA VILLAGE OF SHIPMAN'S LANDING TO FM 521 DIRECTLY THROUGH SEGMENT SIX. OKAY AND QUICKLY. OUR LONG TERM SEGMENT TEN IS A VISION TO CONNECT OUR ETJ ACROSS THE BRAZOS RIVER TO OUR MAIN CITY CORE. THE. THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STUDY. SO IT'S WAY OUT THERE IN 10 TO 20 YEARS. OKAY, THERE IT IS. SO THIS ENDS MY ALTERNATE ROUTE OPTIONS. BACK TO OUR PURPOSE TONIGHT. WE'RE HERE TO OBTAIN PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND NEXT STEPS. AGAIN, IT'S PUBLIC INPUT AND DISCUSSION. NO FORMAL ACTION IS TAKEN BACK TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THE PRESENTATION IS DONE. WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS TO THE CITY MANAGER OR TO THE ENGINEER AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING THAT WE DID LAST TIME. IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND, WE'LL HAVE MAYOR PRO TEM GO AHEAD AND WRITE DOWN YOUR NAME AND THEN WE'LL GO [00:40:04] THROUGH THAT. AND FOR CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO PLACE OURSELVES ON THE QUEUE JUST LIKE WE DO. SO THIS WAY WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ASK, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY, THAT THERE'S NO VOTING TAKE PLACE TODAY. THIS IS JUST REALLY AN ITEM THAT JUST OPENED UP FOR A DISCUSSION BETWEEN OUR ENGINEER AS WELL AS OUR COUNCIL AND, AND PLANNING AND ZONING. THAT'S HEARING ON MAY 13TH. THIS ITEM WILL COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SO THE PUBLIC CAN STILL, BECAUSE THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, STILL CAN GET TO THE MAY 13TH MEETING AND HAVE A DISCUSSION OR I WOULD SAY THIS PUBLIC MEETING AND THEN CITY PLANNING AND ZONING WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THAT WILL GET FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL AND HOPEFULLY CITY COUNCIL. MAY 18TH AND JUNE 1ST WILL ADOPT IT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I SET MYSELF UP ON THE QUEUE FIRST. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE I SAW YOUR 0 TO 5 AND THEN LONG TERM PLAN CITY MANAGER. DO WE HAVE THE MONEY THAT'S ALLOCATED FOR ANY OF THESE. IF WE WERE TO GO THE SHORT TERM OR THE LONG TERM? ACTUALLY, MAYOR, WE WILL BE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT FUNDING IN AN UPCOMING MEETING. RIGHT NOW, THE COST HAS NOT BEEN DEFINED, SO IT DEPENDS ON THE PRIORITIES OF COUNCIL AS TO WHICH PROJECTS WE MOVE FORWARD, CONSIDERING THE RESOURCES WE HAVE AVAILABLE. OKAY, SO THAT'S AN UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT. SURE. SO I GUESS I'LL JUST MAKE MINE. SO AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, MAYOR PRO TEM WILL WRITE DOWN YOUR NAME SO WE CAN GET BACK TO THE QUESTIONS. SO LOOKING AT NUMBER NINE ON THE MAP THAT WE HAVE THE MAP UP THERE. YOU KNOW, WHAT I SEE IS FIRST OF ALL, NEW POINT, NEW POINT, DRIVE. IT'S IT'S, IT'S NOT BUILT OUT THE WAY THAT IT'S BUILT OUT LIKE SIENNA PARKWAY OR ANY OF THESE ROADWAYS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM. I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT MORE. BUT AND THEN ON TOP OF IT, WITH MCKEEVER GOING DOWN THE WAY, IT'S GOING DOWN, IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTH POST, I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT SOUTH POST? YEAH, THAT'S NOT THAT FAR FROM WHERE THIS WHERE EIGHT OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD DUMP ONTO NUMBER NINE OR WHERE IT IS. AND SAME THING THAT I WOULD GO BACK TO NUMBER 16. IF YOU LOOK AT 16, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE UP AT THE TOP, HIGHWAY SIX, AND THAT ROADWAY IS IN ANOTHER ACREAGE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT ROADWAY IS NOT BUILT OUT FOR SIMILAR TO NEW POINT DRIVE. AND THEN I'VE SEEN. THE SOME OF THESE WHEN YOU LOOK AT SILVER RIDGE BOULEVARD COMING INTO IT, THAT AGAIN, THAT ROADWAY, YOU GOT OPEN DITCHES, YOU GOT THINGS THAT'S NOT EVEN CONCRETE ROAD. IT'S ASPHALT. SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS TO SAY THAT TO, TO REMOVE THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO END UP REBUILDING THAT WHOLE THOROUGHFARE TO BUILD IT BACK AND THEN TO BUILD IT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO, I THINK IS JUST MY SUGGESTIONS TO REMOVE THOSE. AND I'VE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A BAND-AID ON IT. YOU KNOW, MY REFERENCE TO IT IS IT IS YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS A BAND-AID ON IT. THIS WHOLE SIENNA PARKWAY HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, JOHNSON DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN BUILT OUT SINCE 1994. I KNOW THAT MOST NONE OF US SITTING UP HERE WAS ON COUNCIL OR PLANNING AND ZONING OR ANY OF THOSE COMMITTEES. AND IT'S HERE TODAY. SO WE HAVE TO DO DUE DILIGENCE AND RESPONSIBILITY TO WORK THIS ISSUE OUT, WHETHER WE WERE HERE WHEN THIS WAS INITIALLY PUT IN OR NOT, AND SOMEONE IS CORRECT, I THINK THE THE PLANNING OF THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, IF YOU SAY IT AS SIENNA OR ANY OF THESE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I CAN SEE THAT WAS NOT JUST ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE WORKED THROUGH. THERE'S EVEN A CONVERSATION THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE RAILROAD CROSSING BESIDES SIENNA PARKWAY. THE THE RAILROAD COMMISSION WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THE RAILROAD. BUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING HERE, IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE STUCK WITH. AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN NOT. THIS IS NOT JUST MISSOURI [00:45:03] CITY, THIS IS FORT BEND COUNTY. THIS IS THE LIDS. WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIGURE OUT SOMETHING. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO HERE, WE CAN'T REMOVE ANY OF THE EXISTING HOMES TO BUILD, REROUTE, TO PUT ROADWAYS IN THERE. IT IS GOING TO BE A TEMPORARY HELP DURING HURRICANES AND DURING OTHER CATASTROPHES TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. SO I THINK THE STAFF SHOULD GO BACK AND RELOOK AT SOME OF THIS AND, AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE STREETS AND AND SEEING BECAUSE THE DARKER BLUE LINES, IF YOU LOOK AT WHICH ARE I'M SEEING HERE MCKEEVER SOUTH POST OAK, AND THEN YOU HAVE KNIGHT ROAD, YOU HAVE A LOT OF THESE SOLID LINES. AND IF WE CAN GET TRAFFIC TO GET ONTO THE SOLID LINES AND ALLOW THAT TO PROCEED WHEREVER IT NEEDS TO GO, IT'S FINE. THEN IF YOU LOOK AT NEWPORT DRIVE, I'M ONLY SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE YOU GOT SOUTH POST WOULD TAKE YOU TO HIGHWAY SIX. MCKEEVER GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN, WILL TAKE YOU TO HIGHWAY SIX. AND WHAT'S REALLY. AND THEN YOU GOT KNIGHT ROAD THAT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TO METRO AND HIGHWAY SIX. SO TRYING TO SQUEEZE ANOTHER ONE IN THROUGH NEWPORT DRIVE, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. IT'S REALLY NOT. AND IT'S YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DISRUPT THAT THAT COMMUNITY AND Y'ALL CAN'T CLAP. ALRIGHT. THIS IS JUST JUST STAY STILL. THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO SPEAK. SO I THINK WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH THIS PLAN. I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE GOT STUCK WHEN THE GAS GAS LEAK HAPPENED. THERE'S THERE'S GOING TO BE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO I COMMEND THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER ON A SHORT TERM QUICKLY AND COMING UP WITH. BUT I THINK FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BECAUSE THIS IS COMING BEFORE YOU FIRST BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL, I THINK YOU GUYS CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS AND THEN ALLOW AND SEND IT TO COUNCIL. WHAT, YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE YOUR BEST SOLUTION? SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH IT. WITH THAT. I'M GOING TO YIELD BACK AND I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SIGNED UP, AND WE'LL GO DOWN TO THE COMMISSIONERS. THAT'S OPPORTUNITY. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I ECHO SOME OF YOUR SENTIMENTS AS WELL. AND MY QUESTION WAS IN REGARDS TO SPECIFICALLY NEW POINT DRIVE, WHEN YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH THE PLAN. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. DID Y'ALL DO ANY STUDY AS FAR AS TRAFFIC COUNTS ON AND CONSIDERATION OF SOME OF THESE BEING SIGNIFICANT RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO WALKABILITY AND WHAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD CREATE. AND MY PART TWO TO THAT WAS WHY WEREN'T SOME OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS OF CONSIDERATION VERSUS SOME OF THE MORE RURAL TYPE ROADS? SURE. YEAH. IF WE HAD VACANT LAND, THAT MIGHT BE AN EASY, EASY PROBLEM TO SOLVE. BUT A LOT OF IT IS WE HAVE EXISTING HOMES. SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WIDE STREETS OR RIGHT OF WAY TO, TO EXPAND IT. BUT A LOT OF THESE CONCEPTS, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK TO THEM. BUT SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT. NINE IT WAS MORE OF A WHAT HAPPENS WHEN DERBY LANE GETS CLOSED OR SOMETHING. SO THE RESIDENTS IN NEWPORT, THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY OUT. SO IT WORKS BOTH WAYS. IF YOU HAVE AN EVACUATION. I'M SORRY. WE WERE THINKING NINE MORE OF AN EVACUATION ORDER EMERGENCY. NOT LIKE A THOROUGHFARE, BECAUSE IF IF YOU HAD TO EVACUATE NORTH AND ALL THESE OTHER POINTS ARE CLOSED, THERE IS AN ACCESS THERE. AND WHAT THE EVACUATION POINTS YOU COULD PUT UP A GATE LIKE WE DID UP ON PARK WHERE IT'S ONLY FIRE DEPARTMENT OPENS IT. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY NEED TO GO SOUTH RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE TRAPPED. SO IF WE HAD SOME SORT OF A EMERGENCY ROUTE THERE, THEY CAN ALSO GET OUT ON MCKEEVER AND, YOU KNOW, GO LEFT, RIGHT, OR EVEN CONTINUE DOWN EIGHT AND FOUR AND HAD EVEN SOUTH IF WE NEEDED TO. YES. AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY SUGGESTION AS WELL. POSSIBLY AN EVACUATION ROUTE FOR THOSE LOCATIONS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, BUT NOT FOR A CONTINUOUS ROUTE GOING THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AND SO I WOULD SAME THING AS MAYOR, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE YOU GUYS TO GO BACK AND KIND OF LISTEN TO WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE SAID AND SHARED HERE TODAY AND DEVELOP A MORE CONCISE PLAN THAT IS GOING TO ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE NEED WITHOUT INTERRUPTING THE FLOW OF THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS AS WELL. SO THAT'S MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER KIRK. THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. I WANT TO TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BUZZ IN THE COMMUNITY ON ROUTES, AND WE'VE SEEN SOME FRIENDLY [00:50:03] DRAWINGS AND THINGS, YOU KNOW, OF NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE MADE LITTLE SKETCHES OF SEND US HERE, SEND US THERE. THERE ARE TONS OF CONSTRAINTS IN THE SIENNA AREA. WETLANDS IS A BIG ONE. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DRAWINGS THROUGH WETLANDS. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DRAWINGS ALONG THE BRAZOS RIVER BANKS. THOSE PLACES SIMPLY DO NOT WORK FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION. YOU MENTIONED THE RAILROAD AUTHORITY. THAT IS A HUGE HINDRANCE. WE CAN'T HAVE 20 CROSSINGS IN SIENNA OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS. I WOULD LOVE TO JUST WILLY NILLY GO OUT AND THROW, YOU KNOW, STREETS OVER THE RAILROAD, BUT THEY SIMPLY CAN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT. ONE OF THE ACCESS POINTS, NUMBER EIGHT, GOES RIGHT PAST THE AIRPORT, EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THE RUNWAY. I BELIEVE THAT'S A DIRT ROAD. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER CONSTRAINT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. SO THERE ARE ALL THESE PIECES TO THIS PUZZLE THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT TO MAKE THESE ROUTES WORK. NUMBER 16, THE MAYOR DID MENTION. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A CHOKE POINT. RIGHT NOW. IT IS BARRICADED. ACTUALLY, IT'S MISSING A PIECE. AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE MUD AND THE DIRT CUTTING THROUGH. BUT SOME OF THESE NEED, YOU KNOW, COULD EASILY BE CONTROLLED ACCESS POINTS. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BE GATED. AND THEN WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR POLICE SHOW UP AND THEY OPEN THEM UP, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE DAILY ROUTES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE CUTTING THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF THESE EMERGENCY ACCESS POINTS. DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WILL BE USING YOUR ROAD FOR DAILY TRAFFIC. SO PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND. BUT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, MOBILITY GOES, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING AND IT'S A CRITICAL SITUATION. AND I APPLAUD CITY STAFF AND THE MAYOR AND EVERYONE FOR COMING TOGETHER AND TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING WORK HERE, ESPECIALLY SOONER THAN LATER. AGAIN, MONEY TALKS AND AT THIS MOMENT WE DON'T HAVE IT. SO WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THAT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. AND WE HOPE THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING FOR YOU SOON. RECOGNIZING. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY. YEAH. THANK YOU. THE THING I WAS LOOKING AT WAS NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS NEW POINT DRIVE. THAT CONNECTION. YOU KNOW, BEING SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE DERBY LANE DRAINAGE SITUATION WHERE WE HAD TO BUILD A BRIDGE ACROSS OVER BRIDGE TO KEEP PEOPLE OR TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK INTO THEIR HOME SITES WHEN THERE WAS HEAVY RAINFALL. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT KIND OF COST NUMBERS YOU'RE LOOKING AT. BUT TO ME, I MEAN, THAT IS AN AREA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO RUN IN. I THINK WE'LL RUN INTO A LOT OF DRAINAGE ISSUES. I THINK WE'LL A LOT OF SOME WETLAND ISSUES. SO AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS THE COST THAT'S TO DO THAT, THAT PARTICULAR SECTION, IS IT REALLY COST EFFECTIVE? ARE WE REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL, I GUESS, THROUGHPUT FROM THE SIENNA AREA TO GET OUT TO HIGHWAY SIX USING THE THE THE NEW POINT DRIVE? IT'S LIKE I SAY, IT'S I THINK IT'S A RECIPE FOR DRAINAGE ISSUES AND EVEN FOR WETLAND ISSUES, NOT TO ALSO MENTION THE, THE ISSUES THAT WOULD CREATE WITH SOME OF THE, THE HOMEOWNERS BACK THERE WHO HAVE LARGE LOTS AND TRY TO BE ABLE TO, TO AFFECT THEIR, THEIR HOME SITES AND THEIR. ASSESSMENTS, PROPERTY VALUES, I THINK REALLY HAS TO BE LOOKED AT. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I COMMEND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EXERCISE OF GOING THROUGH. WE ALL KNOW THAT WE GOT A PROBLEM WITH WITH SIENNA AND THERE'S NO MAGIC BULLET. SO WE'VE GOT TO TRY TO PIECE TOGETHER SOME OF THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF THE HEAT OFF OF SIENNA PARKWAY. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF THE COST PROJECTIONS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE REALLY, I THINK SOMETHING THAT THAT WE CAN [00:55:04] HANDLE, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE'D BE TALKING WITH FORT BEND COUNTY, ALSO WITH JOHNSON DEVELOPMENT. AND TO ME IS AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO BUILD HOMES IN THE BACK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE PROBLEMS, MORE TRAFFIC. SO I KNOW WE CAN'T TELL THEM TO QUIT BUILDING. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S FIXED. IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE WITH THE THE PROPERTY VALUE. I MEAN, THE, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON BACK IN THE BACK. I'D LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT 521 CAN HELP US WITH. I WOULD HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THE CHOKE POINTS THAT WE HAVE. BUT 521 IS A TEXDOT, I BELIEVE SO. AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO EXPAND THAT AND GO FROM SOME OF THE TWO LANE AREAS TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT ON 521 AND EFFECTIVELY GET OVER TO HIGHWAY SIX. SO THAT'S, AGAIN, I COMMEND OUR STAFF FOR PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THE FIRST BITE AT IT. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZE THE MAYOR PRO TEM KLAUSER. YES THANK YOU. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS THAT SHOWED UP TODAY TO VOICE YOUR THOUGHTS. THIS IS WHAT PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE FOR. THIS IS YOUR MEETING. THIS IS FOR YOU ALL TO COME TO US AND TELL US WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE, BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN. SO I WANT TO THANK EACH ONE OF YOU WHO CAME OUT TODAY. WITH THAT SAID, I DID HEAR A LOT OF RESIDENTS FROM THE NEW POINT SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT ARE MAYBE IMPACTED OR. YES, MA'AM, I SEE YOUR HAND. NEXT TIME, MAKE SURE YOU SIGN UP, BUT YOU CAN SEND US AN EMAIL. OKAY. SEND US AN EMAIL. THESE FORUMS ARE GREAT, BUT YOU CAN ALSO, WE ARE ACCESSIBLE, EACH ONE OF US, WHETHER WHETHER WE ARE YOUR DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER OR NOT. YOU ALL HAVE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE. OKAY, SO SEND US AN EMAIL AND WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS. SO THAT WAS MY SECOND POINT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE ROOTS. MY QUESTION TO YOU, BENZINO, IS THESE 16 ROOTS THAT THE CITY HAS PROPOSED YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE PROPOSED, SOME OF WHICH HAVE HAD ALREADY BEEN IN THE WORKS BEFORE? ARE THESE THE ONLY VIABLE ROUTES THAT ARE AVAILABLE? FOR THE MOST PART, WE'VE WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF ITERATION FEEDBACK, SOLICITED PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENTS. SO THIS IS STAFF'S POINT LEVEL WHERE WE THINK THAT THESE. THE TWO THAT WOULD TALK ABOUT FOR SHORT TERM. WE COULD DO THAT WITHIN 1 TO 5 YEARS, 5 TO 10 YEARS. THE MEDIUM TERM WE NEED TO HAVE A NORTH SOUTH ROUTE, WHETHER IT'S ALTERNATE 1 OR 2. AND THE LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, WITH SEGMENT TEN, WE NEED TO WE WANT TO DEVELOP THE, YOU KNOW, OUR WESTERN EDGE. SO THIS IS OUR FIRST STAB AT IT OR OUR FIRST TRY AT IT. OBVIOUSLY, FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE NUMBERS AFTER. 16 SO BRING THEM IN. WE'VE EVEN HAD COMMENTS DURING THE PERIOD, ESPECIALLY. 15 WHOEVER THAT WAS A PUBLIC. SOMEBODY BROUGHT THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. THAT WASN'T EVEN ON MY RADAR. SO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IT'S IN DRAFT FORM. WE'RE OPEN TO MORE INPUT. AND SOME OF THEM, WHEN THEY MAKE SENSE, WE CAN LOOK AT IT EVEN FURTHER. OKAY. YES. SEE, PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE VERY VALUABLE TO THIS. AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE BEFORE I TURN THIS OVER TO OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE HERE, THAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE TIME. YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT WE ARE STARTING WE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. I WAS SITTING IN TRAFFIC. SOMEONE SAID, GENTLEMEN, I THINK IN THE BACK WAS TALKING ABOUT THE THE TRAFFIC ON THURSDAY. I WAS SITTING IN IT. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIVE IN SIENNA, BUT I WAS I WAS SITTING IN IT. SO I FEEL YOUR PAIN AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. SAFETY FIRST. SO JUST BE PATIENT. GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK. THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO TURN THINGS OVER TO OUR COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE HERE. WE HAVE SOME WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO START WITH COMMISSIONER SULLOWAY. THANK YOU. I GUESS I'VE GOT A COUPLE BASIC QUESTIONS. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING [01:00:03] TO DO HERE. ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT WAS CREATED 35 YEARS AGO AND FIX THE TRAFFIC ISSUES FOR RESIDENTS IN SIENNA, OR ARE WE TRYING TO ADDRESS EMERGENCY SITUATIONS? BECAUSE I'VE HEARD TALK ABOUT SOME SOME ROADS THAT MAYBE ARE ONLY OPEN IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. SO I'M ASSUMING WE'RE TRYING TO DO BOTH. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT COMMISSIONER. SO I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THESE ROUTES WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO ADDRESS WHICH. RIGHT. SO WHICH OF THESE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO TRY AND ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC, DAY TO DAY TRAFFIC FOR RESIDENTS AND WHICH ARE GOING TO BE OPENED IN EMERGENCIES? I WILL SAY I USED TO WORK IN AN AREA THAT HAD FLOODING ISSUES AND HAD EMERGENCY ROUTES WAITING FOR THE CITY TO OPEN. THE PROBLEM IS WHEN IT'S FLOODED, IT'S HARD TO GET TO. THAT NEEDS A LOT MORE THOUGHT BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THAT IN ACTION, AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BEST WAY TO IMPLEMENT. DO WE HAVE PLANS FOR? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR? 521 BECAUSE SEEING HERE, I THINK PEOPLE LOOK AT 521 AS A SOLUTION AND IT'S JUST A PROBLEM. IT'S GOT LESS TRAFFIC CAPACITY THAN SIENNA PARKWAY DOES. SO WHAT ARE TEX DOT'S PLANS FOR 521 AND HOW DOES THAT FIT? IF IF WE DO THESE THINGS AND WE MOVE ALL THIS TRAFFIC TO 521 AND IT STOPS, WE REALLY HAVEN'T SOLVED ANYTHING, HAVE WE? SO DO WE KNOW WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE? WELL, WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD ON THIS, AND THEY'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH TXDOT TO INCREASE IT TO FOUR LANES. AND THE TIMING IS TEX DOT CALENDAR AGAIN. SO I THINK I KNOW WE'RE TALKING AND SO FORTH. BUT THAT'S A KEY ELEMENT OF THIS BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING IN THIS. YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC A FAIR AMOUNT TO 5211 WAY OR ANOTHER. SO I THINK THAT'S GOT TO BE PART OF THE PLAN THAT WE SEE. AND AS PART OF THIS, I'M ASSUMING WE'RE TALKING UPGRADES TO ROADS, LIGHTS, ALL THOSE THINGS AS WELL. AND SO CAN WE GET SOME DETAIL AROUND THOSE. SO FOR INSTANCE, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THESE CONNECTORS AT 7 OR 7 AND EIGHT. WHAT IS THAT ACTUALLY GOING TO ENTAIL? I SEE THE DOTTED LINE, BUT I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT ARE WE DOING. TWO LANE, FOUR LANE STOP SIGN. OKAY, STOPLIGHTS, ETC. AND WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND IT? WHAT HAPPENED TO PROPOSALS ONE, THREE, FIVE, 11, 12 AND 13? BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T ON HERE WHERE THE ITEMS THAT WERE CONSIDERED AND THEN GOTTEN RID OF. CAN I ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION? OH, SURE. YOU WANT TO JUMP IN, FEEL FREE. HOW ABOUT IT? LET ME GO HERE, I THINK. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONERS. LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT TO WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE NUMBERS AND HOW WE GOT HERE. OKAY. WHAT VINCENZO AND THE STAFF IS TRYING TO DO TODAY IS MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN. NOW, WHAT? THIS THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS A VISIONING DOCUMENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WHAT WE PUT HERE GETS BUILT. IT'S JUST A VISION. WE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. STAFF HAS LOOKED AT VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES. PROBABLY. WE STARTED OFF WITH ABOUT 30 PLANS, BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS, WETLANDS COSTS, PUBLIC PERCEPTIONS AND WHATNOT. SO WE'VE NARROWED DOWN INTO THESE CONCEPTS TO BE FRANK. AND WE BUILT ALL OF THESE. PROBABLY NOT. MAYBE A FEW OPTIONS. SO WHAT YOU'RE HERE WITH YOU IS TO MAKE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, SO WE CAN START VISIONING ALTERNATE ROUTES. YOU ASKED A VERY GOOD QUESTION. WHAT IS THE INTENT? THE PRIMARY INTENT IS MOBILITY. ALSO, WE WANT THESE ROUTES TO BE USED IN THE EVENT OF HURRICANE EVACUATIONS OR EMERGENCY ACCESS AS WELL. SO THE PURPOSE IS BOTH MOBILITY AS WELL AS EMERGENCY ACCESS. SO THE WHAT WE DO HERE, WE AMEND THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN. OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE SEEKING INPUT FROM COUNSEL FROM PNC AS WELL AS RESIDENTS. WE WILL GO BACK AND SHARPEN THE PENCILS. THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS WE DO CONCEPTUAL STUDIES. CAN WE BUILD IT? WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS? WHAT RIGHT OF WAY WE NEED? IS THERE A COST? WE DO THE VALUE ENGINEERING, IDENTIFY FUNDING SOURCES. THEN WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE THE LAND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. SO WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY IS THIS IS JUST A VISIONARY DOCUMENT AT THIS POINT, DOES NOT MEAN THAT ALL THESE CONCEPTS ARE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED, BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. WE LOOKED AT VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES, AND WE HAVE COME UP WITH THIS LIMITED CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE. AND AS WE GO BY, WE WILL SHARPEN THE PENCILS. AND I HOPE I MADE THAT CLEAR TO YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS. OKAY. AND FY 21, I'M SORRY IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT. WE ARE WORKING VERY ACTIVELY WITH TXDOT AND FORT BEND COUNTY ON FY 21. 521. WIDENING IS IN THE PLANS. WE'RE PUSHING FOR THAT BECAUSE CURRENTLY YOU HAVE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC GOING NORTH ON SIENNA PARKWAY. THE CONSTRAINT IS THE CAPACITY OF FY 21. THERE IS ALREADY [01:05:02] WIDENING PLANS. THERE IS ALREADY FUNDING MECHANISM. AND BOTH THE COUNTY CITY IS WORKING WITH TXDOT TO ADVANCE THAT PROJECT AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. SO AND KIND OF TO THAT POINT, YOU TALK ABOUT CONCEPTUAL STUDIES. DO WE HAVE TOOLS THAT ALLOW US TO MODEL TRAFFIC FLOW ON THESE ROADWAYS WITH DIFFERENT CONDITIONS AND DIFFERENT CLOSURE SCENARIOS? AND DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN THOSE AND GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE? SORRY, WE DO THROUGH OUR CONSULTANTS. I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE THAT SOFTWARE IN MY COMPUTER. OKAY. SO I MAY HAVE THAT. COMMISSIONER. GREAT QUESTION. AS WE SAID, ONCE WE AMEND THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND WE SHARPEN OUR PENCILS ON THOSE ROUTES, WE'LL DO THE CONCEPTUAL STUDIES. THAT'S WHEN WE DO THE TRAFFIC MODELING. A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING IS MY ROADWAY CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE TRAFFIC? IF NOT, WHAT I NEED TO DO TO WIDEN THE ROADWAY? THOSE ARE SOME DECISIONS THAT WE MADE DURING THOSE CONCEPTUAL STUDIES. SO A, WE HAVE A BIG LIST. WE WILL SHARPEN THE LIST, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL DO THOSE TRAFFIC STUDIES MODELS TO SEE IF THE ROADWAY HAS CAPACITY TO HANDLE THAT. SO YOU'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. DO YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MODEL SAFETY INTO THAT? WHAT THE IMPACT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAFFIC CONTROL ELEMENTS? DOES IT NEED A STOP SIGN, TRAFFIC LIGHT, ETC. AND HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SAFETY IMPLICATION IS OF PARTICULARLY PUTTING SOME OF THESE INTERSECTIONS ON, ON 521 AND ON SIX? WELL, DO SIR. OKAY. GOT THAT. SORRY. AND THEN THE OTHER COMMENT IS WE'VE GOT THIS IN FRONT OF PLANNING AND ZONING HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. IT TOOK US 35 YEARS TO GET HERE. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I I'D LIKE MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS. I WANT TO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE WANTING SOME DIRECTION AND SO FORTH, BUT I THINK IT MAKES IT MAKES SENSE. THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE PROBLEM. IT'S NOT A SIMPLE SOLUTION. I THINK WE MAY NEED MORE TIME THAN THAT. THAT'S MY $0.02 WORTH. AND LASTLY, CITY COUNCIL GOT A BUNCH OF HANDOUTS TODAY. PLANNING AND ZONING. GET THOSE BEFORE OUR MEETING PLEASE. WOULD FIND THOSE USEFUL ON WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAD TO SAY. YES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COMMISSIONER BOLDEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR THE TIME. I GUESS EVERYTHING I WANT TO SAY HAS BEEN ECHOED, BUT I HAVE SOME MAJOR CONCERNS. I KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX. I'VE LEARNED THE 35 YEAR HISTORY, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. I'M LOOKING AT NUMBER SIX, SEVEN, NINE AND PARTICULARLY EIGHT. THE KEY FACTOR THERE IS WE'RE DISTURBING THE QUAINT, QUIET SAFETY AND WALKABILITY OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, WHICH THEN AFFECTS THE HOME VALUE. SO IF WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, I GUESS JUST LET'S DIG DEEPER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HOW BAD ARE WE GOING TO AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS? I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO TAKE CONSIDERATION. WE MOVE TO OUR AREAS BECAUSE OF THAT. ONE PARTICULAR REASON I JUST REFERENCED. WE DON'T WANT TO AFFECT THOSE DIRECTLY BECAUSE THAT CAN CAUSE THEM TO MOVE. SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THOSE THINGS AND MAKE THAT ON RECORD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING CHAIRMAN PEARSON. WELL, I GUESS BEING LAST, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING'S BEEN COVERED. BUT BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. THERE ARE OTHER ENTITIES THAT WILL HAVE SOME INPUT ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THESE OPTIONS. MY QUESTION IS, AND YOU'VE MENTIONED TXDOT IN FORT BEND COUNTY, BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATIONS WHERE BEFORE YOU'VE COME UP WITH THE PLAN OR THE OPTIONS THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED ON TONIGHT? HAS THERE BEEN ANY HARD CONVERSATIONS THAT SAY, LISTEN, WE HAVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PHASES IN THE LONGEST PHASE IS 10 TO 20 YEARS. WELL, WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE GUN 35 YEARS. SO YOU ADD ANOTHER 20 ON TOP OF THAT. I KNOW THAT WE WANT TO GET SOME THINGS DONE NOW, BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH TXDOT IN FORT BEND COUNTY IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS WE ARE PRESENTING ON THIS EVENING. HAS THERE BEEN THOSE CONVERSATIONS? AND I THINK THAT IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE COMMUNITY, THE RESIDENTS HAVE MADE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT SOME OPTIONS THAT I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD HAVE POSSIBLY CONSIDER. NO DISRESPECT. THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HONESTLY COME UP, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE TONIGHT. GO BACK, REVISIT. I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THIS ON A TIMELINE, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN OCCURRING FOR SOME TIME. SO IN ORDER FOR US TO ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE, I THINK THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO ADJUST THE TIMELINE, GIVE PLANNING AND ZONING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO REVIEW SOME THINGS, BUT ALSO COME BACK WITH SOME HEARTIER OPTIONS THAT I'M NOT SAYING MAKE MORE SENSE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT ARE A [01:10:01] LITTLE BIT MORE PRACTICAL, IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER, GREAT POINTS TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION. HAVE WE TALKED WITH OTHER ENTITIES? WE'VE BEEN EXTENSIVELY TALKING WITH OTHER ENTITIES, BE IT THE COUNTY, THE LIDS, THE MUDS, THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. YES, WE'VE BEEN TALKING. NUMBER TWO, YOU SAW IN VINCENZO'S PRESENTATION, NOT ALL OF THESE CAN BE IMPLEMENTED ON DAY ONE. IT TAKES TIME AND EFFORT AND FUNDING AND RIGHT OF WAY. WE HAVE SOME LOW HANGING FRUITS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT, WHICH PROVIDES THE BEST VALUE IN TERMS OF MOBILITY AND EMERGENCY ACCESS. WHEN WE COME TO P AND Z AND TO COUNCIL STAFF WILL BE MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WHILE WE WAIT ON THE OTHER PROJECTS THE SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT AND NINE, WHICH MAY TAKE SOME TIME AND MORE DILIGENCE AND BEAT STUDIES OR MODELING OR RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. SO THOSE WERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'LL BE MAKING AT PNC. OKAY. MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE IT'S A PRIORITY FOR MISSOURI CITY. IT'S UP HERE. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER ENTITIES? WHERE IS IT IN THEIR PRIORITY LIST? IS IT UP THERE AS HIGH AS IT IS FOR US, OR IS THERE SOME DIFFERENCE THERE? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WITH THE TIME NOT BEING ON OUR SIDE, WE NEED TO TRY TO GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE AND SAY, THIS NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY FOR ALL OF US. AT THE SAME TIME, NOT TAKING AWAY FROM ANY OTHER COMMUNITIES, BUT THAT AREA IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP. AND WE ALREADY HAVE AN ISSUE, SO IT'S NOT IN OUR FAVOR. IT NEEDS TO BE A HIGHER PRIORITY JUST BECAUSE IF WE SAID NO MORE DEVELOPMENT, THEN MAYBE WE COULD TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE GUN AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE BEHIND THE GUN UNLESS WE GET THIS ON A HIGHER PRIORITY, NOT JUST WITH US, BUT THE OTHER ENTITIES. YEAH, WE'LL DO IT. OKAY. RECOGNIZE AND COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON, THANK YOU. I WILL PRACTICE BREVITY BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE SHORT ON TIME. AGREED WITH COMMISSIONERS AND COUNCIL ON THE CONVERSATIONS WITH TXDOT AND THE COUNTY. BUT NOTHING, IN MY OPINION, WILL HAPPEN UNTIL WE START GETTING INTO INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS, WHEN EVERYBODY HAS WHAT THEY WANT ON PAPER. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE IT FROM CONVERSATIONS TO POSSIBLY INTERNAL MEETINGS WHERE FACTS AND FIGURES, HISTORICAL DATA FROM TXDOT, ETC. ARE INCLUDED. SO THAT WAY IT WILL INFORM OUR STAFF DECISION WHO DOES DO A GREAT JOB, BUT THAT WAY WE'LL HAVE THE HISTORICAL DATA, WE CAN GIVE THEM HOURS, ETC. AND ACTUALLY PUT POINTS ON PAPER TO TO COMMISSIONER PEARSON'S POINT, WE CAN ALL BE IN LOCKSTEP AND IT'LL ALSO HELP WITH COST SHARING WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. THAT WAS POINT ONE. JUST A COMMENT ON THE CONCEPTUAL FRAMING FROM ITEM TEN. TO ME, THAT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING WE COULD MOVE UP. I WON'T SAY FLIP WITH SOME OF THE CONSTERNATION THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS. THIS COULD BE LOW HANGING FRUIT AND COULD HELP EASE TRAFFIC CONCERNS TO SOME EXTENT. AND THEN THE SHORT TERM SUGGESTION THAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE IN OUR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS IS WHAT WE CAN DO RELATIVE TO OUR SIGNALS AND TRAFFIC LIGHTS, ADAPTIVE TIMING IN REAL TIME THAT ADJUST LONGER GREEN PHASES. SO THAT WAY TRAFFIC CAN MOVE THROUGH. IT WON'T FIX THE PROBLEM, BUT IT COULD HELP ALLEVIATE IT IN THE SHORT TERM. WHILE WE'RE DEVELOPING PLANS THAT GO OUT 20 YEARS. THANK YOU. OKAY. RECOGNIZE AND COMMISSIONER ATWOOD. YEAH. JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. SO LIKE FOR SEGMENT NUMBER 14 AND SOME OF THE OTHER ROADS IN HERE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DUMP A LOT OF TRAFFIC DOWN TO LIKE MILLER ROAD, WE, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO ALSO IMPROVE MILLER ROAD OR IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT AT ALL, AS ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN HERE BROUGHT UP. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM. AND ALSO MILLER ROAD AT 521, WE DEFINITELY WOULD NEED A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THE CITY'S ETJ I DON'T THINK AT THIS POINT. ANOTHER THING I'D BRING UP IS IS TRAMMEL, FRESNO ROAD, HENRY WATTS ROAD, EVEN MCKEEVER ROAD, THEY'RE NOT TWO LANES PER SIDE. TRAMMEL, FRESNO AND HENRY WATTS ARE BASICALLY JUST LIKE WHAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED. IT'S A TWO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION WITH DITCHES ON BOTH SIDES. DANGEROUS. YOU'RE GOING TO DUMP A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THEM. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MAJOR ISSUES. SO THOSE KIND OF THINGS HAVE TO ALSO BE ADDRESSED. AT THE SAME TIME AS WE TRY TO DO SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF. SECOND COMMENT I'D MAKE IS, IS WHAT YOU'RE CALLING SEGMENT SEVEN, I THINK GOES FROM STEEP BANK TRACE DOWN TO FENN ROAD. THAT TO ME IS AN SINCE IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH SHIPMAN'S [01:15:09] LANDING, IT GOES BASICALLY RIGHT AROUND IT. THAT ROAD SHOULD GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SIENNA PARKWAY, OR CONNECT WITH SIENNA LAKES OR SOMETHING. THAT'S. THAT, TO ME, IS A PERFECT WAY TO GET TRAFFIC FROM THE AREAS WHERE IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE AND WORSE UP TO STEEP BANK TRACE TO GET UP TO MCKEEVER TO GO LEFT OR RIGHT AND GET OUT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED ALSO. AND AGAIN, I'LL THROW OUT AGAIN THE CHOKE POINT IN SIENNA FOR TRAFFIC FLOW IS FROM STEEP BANK TRACE TO SCANLON TRACE. YOU GOT TO DO WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO GET ANOTHER WAY NORTH AND SOUTH THROUGH THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT. I WAS THE ONE THAT DREW THE MAP THAT HAD THE LINES GOING THROUGH THE WETLANDS WITHOUT REALIZING IT WAS GOING THROUGH THE WETLANDS. BUT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING NORTH AND SOUTH TO GET UP TO SOMEWHERE. YOU KNOW, THE SEGMENT TEN AND, AND I GUESS SEGMENT A, THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT, ALTHOUGH IT'S A LONG WAY OUT OF THE WAY, AND I BET YOU PEOPLE WON'T WANT TO USE IT BECAUSE IT ADDS SO MUCH TIME. BUT I GUESS IN REALITY, I'LL ALSO THEN THROW OUT THAT IF YOU'RE AT LEAST YOU'RE MOVING. IT MIGHT BE BETTER THAN SITTING IN TRAFFIC. I. TWO LAST THURSDAY WAS STUCK IN THE TRAFFIC ON SIENNA PARKWAY FOR AN HOUR AND TEN MINUTES TO GO FROM WATERS LAKE BOULEVARD AND AND SCANLON TRACE AROUND OVER TO STEEP BANK TRACE. IT TOOK ME AN HOUR AND TEN MINUTES TO GO. LIKE LESS THAN TWO MILES. ANY KIND OF A PERTURBATION IN ANYTHING. TRAFFIC IN THERE AT RUSH HOUR TIMES. IT'S IT'S BEDLAM. THE DAY WE HAD THE THE LAST INCIDENT WHERE THE POLICE WAS IN THERE AND THERE WAS THE ACTIVE SHOOTER. I WAS SCARED TO DEATH THAT I SEE A FIRE TRUCK DRIVING DOWN THE MEDIAN ON SIENNA PARKWAY, BECAUSE THE ROADS WERE JAMMED AND THEY COULDN'T GET THROUGH ANYWHERE. FIRE ENGINES, AMBULANCES, MISSOURI CITY POLICE CARS ARE ALL DRIVING DOWN THE MEDIAN STRIP IN SECTIONS TO GET THROUGH TO, TO DO WHAT THEY GOT TO DO, BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY NOTHING'S MOVING. SO SOMETHING REALLY HAS TO HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COMMISSIONER SULLOWAY, I JUST ONE LAST QUESTION. THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. I'M ASSUMING IT'S MORE THAN THE MAP. THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN OR A MAP IS A COMPONENT OF THE MOBILITY PLAN. SO WE UPDATED THE MOBILITY PLAN IN 2023, LOOKED AT VARIOUS MODES OF MOBILITY ACROSS THE CITY AND THE ETJ. THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS A COMPONENT OF THAT PLAN, WHICH WE ARE UPDATING. SO IT'S A MINOR UPDATE. WHAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY IS ONE PAGE OUT OF THAT, WHICH IS THAT IS CORRECT. SO IT'S IT'S THERE'S PROBABLY MORE TO IT. CAN WE ALSO GET THAT IN OUR PACKAGE? I JUST DID A QUICK SEARCH ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, TRYING TO FIND THAT IT DIDN'T POP UP EASILY. I HOPE THAT COULD COME OUT IN OUR PACK PACKAGE OR A LINK TO IT. WE CAN PROVIDE A LINK IF IT'S TOO VOLUMINOUS, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN PROVIDE THE LINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COMMISSIONER ARMSTRONG AND MAYOR, THIS IS THE LAST COMMISSIONER THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I JUST. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. MOST OF. THANK YOU. I THINK SO, YES. THANK YOU. MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED. WHAT I DO WANT TO ASK, THOUGH, IS IN THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. IS THERE A CONSTRAINTS MAP? BECAUSE I HEAR A LOT ABOUT THERE BEING CONSTRAINTS AND A LOT OF THIS, THE CONCEPTS HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT BASED ON CONSTRAINTS. SO IS THERE A CONSTRAINT MAP IN THE MOBILITY PLAN? NOW, AS WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THESE VARIOUS ROUTES WE HAVE IDENTIFIED, WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL PROS AND CONS? CERTAINLY WHEN WE CAN COME, WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. OKAY. THAT'S THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE INFORMATION THAT COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY JUST ASKED FOR, I DIDN'T WANT TO REPEAT THAT. BUT YES, IF WE COULD GET A CONSTRAINTS MAP, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DO WANT TO ASK WITHOUT INCIDENT, WHAT IS THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE OF SIENNA PARKWAY? MY SHORT ANSWER IS CURRENT SERVICE IS NOT GOOD. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING AND THAT SOMETHING INCLUDES. WE ARE LOOKING AT WIDENING SIENNA PARKWAY, BUT THAT STILL PROVIDES ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. WHAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IS SOME CONCEPTUAL OUT OF THE BOX SOLUTIONS THAT CAN PROVIDE ALTERNATE CONNECTIVITY OR ALTERNATE ROUTES FOR THE PEOPLE TO ACCESS, BOTH FOR MOBILITY AS [01:20:03] WELL AS EMERGENCY ACCESS. AND THAT IS THE PIECE THAT YOU'RE PRIMARILY LOOKING AT IN THIS AMENDMENT TODAY. BUT THERE IS ALWAYS BEEN A PLAN TO EXPAND OR WIDEN SIENNA PARKWAY. WE'RE ALSO PURSUING THAT WITH VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS. OKAY. AND PART OF MY ASKING THAT WAS LIKE, ARE WE AT LEVEL OF SERVICE C OR D? AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO B OR A OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OPTIMAL VERSUS WHERE WE ARE TODAY? SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT GOOD, BUT THAT WAS REALLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO. THERE WAS THERE WAS TWO. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. THERE THERE WAS TWO STUDIES. ONE THAT WAS. AND IF I MAY, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE. IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEMS LIKE THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THOSE IN THE BACK PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD LIKE. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. AND THEN JUST ONE LAST QUESTION. AS WE THINK ABOUT THE SHORT TERM VERSUS LONG TERM, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S KIND OF A BAND AID, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THE STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER TRYING TO BE. I'M CERTAIN THAT ONCE THE PLANNING STAGE ACTUALLY MOVES FORWARD, YOU ARE LOOKING AT BEING AS COHESIVE AS POSSIBLE. WHAT I DO WANT TO ASK AND MAKE SURE MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION AND A COMMENT, IS THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN SIENNA, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN FOR IT NOT TO BE ANOTHER BAND AID, BECAUSE I KNOW ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OUT TO 521. AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT 521 AS AN OPTION, IN ADDITION TO WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES, THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO COME. ONCE THAT IS BUILT OUT. GREAT POINT COMMISSIONER. WE'RE CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE IS LOOKING AT IT AS WE SPEAK. THANK YOU. WERE WE WERE YOU ALL DONE? IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING DONE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO. SHASHI AND VINCENZO, I THINK THERE'S THREE PIECES. ONE WAS THE SIGNALS MOVING, KIND OF HELPING TO MOVE THE TRAFFIC. NUMBER TWO WAS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR CNN MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AS WELL AS FORT BEND COUNTY COMMISSIONER PEARSON. THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO THERE ARE SOME OF THESE, I MEAN, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE TODAY ARE REALLY DONE THROUGH CNN MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AS WELL AS FORT BEND COUNTY. AND THEN THE THIRD PIECE IS THE WIDENING. YOU KNOW, THERE'S MIXED MESSAGES THAT'S OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WIDEN THAT ROADWAY IS GOING TO TURN IT INTO AN EXPRESSWAY. AND IF NOT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE THOSE MEDIANS. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO MOVE THOSE MEDIANS AND SOME DON'T CARE FOR IT. SOME DOES. BUT THE DEAL IS WE GOT A PROBLEM. SO IT'S HOUSTON, WE GOT A PROBLEM. EITHER WAY, YOU CUT IT. SO I GET THE THE LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS. BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IS OUT OF THIS PLAN. I THINK THE CITY STAFF, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOUR TEAM AND THE ENGINEERING TEAM WENT BACK TO THE THAT REGION, THE SIENA AREA, AND KIND OF LOOKED AT TODAY WHAT'S BEING BUILT OVER THERE ALREADY TO SEE WHAT OTHER AVENUES, POTENTIAL AVENUES THAT YOU CAN HAVE TO GET PEOPLE OUT. AND I THINK TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT 16, EIGHT, 15, TEN, EIGHT, NINE, SIX, SEVEN, FIVE, FOUR, THREE, TWO. YOU CAN LOOK AT 1 OR 2 AND MAKE THOSE AS A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAS TO BE ALL OF THIS THE WAY YOU SEE IT ON THE MAP TODAY. SO WHATEVER YOU LOOK AT, IF IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER. SO I GUESS THE WAY I'M UNDERSTANDING, UNLESS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CITY MANAGER, THIS IS THE WHAT OUT THERE. ALL THE POSSIBILITIES THAT YOU COULD WITH SOME WETLANDS ACCUSATION, WITH SOME PERHAPS EMINENT DOMAIN, PERHAPS CUTTING THROUGH SOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALL OF THOSE, THIS IS YOUR KIND OF OVERALL FOR PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL TO KIND OF VIEW AND SAY WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, A BIG ISSUES, THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD DO. THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT, MAYOR. AND LET ME JUST POINT OUT THAT THIS IS AT THE VISIONARY STAGE. WE HAVE NOT DUG DEEPER INTO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE, BECAUSE [01:25:04] WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ALL OUT THERE. THIS IS JUST A VISIONARY LOOK TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET ALTERNATIVE ROUTES OUT AND WHAT THAT POTENTIALLY LOOKS LIKE. AS WAS STATED EARLIER, WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS IF THE PUBLIC HAS BETTER SUGGESTIONS THAN WE'VE COME UP WITH, BRING THEM. LET US KNOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T PROCLAIM TO BE EXPERTS IN THAT AREA. AND SOME PEOPLE MAY DRIVE IT EVERY DAY AND SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AS WAS POINTED OUT, WE GOT 15 FROM A SUGGESTION FROM THE PUBLIC, SO WE WELCOME THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT CREATING SOME ALTERNATE ALTERNATE ROUTES. AND SO THIS IS STAFF'S INITIAL FLUSH OUT. I MEAN IT STILL NEEDS TO BE MORE DEVELOPED. WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE TO REALLY COME ON BOARD AND DO FURTHER DIGGING TO SHOW THAT ONE. IS IT COST BENEFICIAL TO GO THIS ROUTE? WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATE IMPACTS POTENTIALLY? DOES IT IMPACT DRAINAGE? I MEAN, SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE THAT GOES INTO THIS BEFORE WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTION. SURE. CITY MANAGER, LET ME ALSO MAKE ONE MORE POINT IS I SEE THE NUMBER TEN THAT'S EVENTUALLY THAT WILL CONNECT WHEN THE FORT BEND TOLL ROAD COMES DOWN. AND THIS WILL BE AN OPTION FROM COMING BACK THAT WAY. AND THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY GROW THE ETJ SIDE OF THAT WITH BUSINESSES AND ALL OF THAT. SO I SEE THAT. BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THAT'S ROUGHLY EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF COST. SO I THINK WHAT MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS BECAUSE WE'RE IN THIS JOINT MEETING, SHASHI AND VINCENZO. PERHAPS WHEN YOU GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND LOOK AT 1 OR 2 MORE VIABLE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO BE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS ALL NIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MANY WAYS IN AND OUT. THERE'S, THERE'S, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. AND I WOULD ALSO TELL YOU TO TRY TO GET AWAY FROM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, THAT ARE THAT HAVE HOMES AND YOU'RE CUTTING NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE OPENING THE DOORS. AND THEN NOW IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE RIGHT OUT THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S ALWAYS NOT A GOOD OPTION FOR ME FOR THE WAY I WOULD LOOK AT IT. AND THAT THAT WOULD ALSO HELP PLANNING AND ZONING. THE ONLY REASON I TALKED ABOUT. 16 WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FROM NEWPOINT. I COMMEND THEM FOR COMING TO THIS MEETING. BUT 16 IS ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALSO HAVE NO IDEA, BECAUSE IF YOU OPEN UP THAT ARTERY, INSTEAD OF PEOPLE GOING THROUGH SIENNA PARKWAY MAKING A RIGHT TURN, EVERYBODY WILL BE CUTTING RIGHT THROUGH THAT. IT'LL BECOME LIKE SEEING A PARKWAY IN SECONDS ONCE THAT'S OPENED. SO AND, AND THESE ARE AGAIN, THESE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 15, 20, 25 YEARS. AND THEY'RE SET THAT WAY. AND, AND THOSE STREETS CANNOT TAKE IN THAT TYPE OF 4000 CARS OR 50 OR 60 000 CARS. THAT'S, THAT'S CUTTING THROUGH HERE. I THINK SOMEONE EARLIER HAD PROJECTED A NUMBER. SO I WOULD SUGGEST IS FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT, SEND THEM THE INFORMATION, AND PROBABLY TAKE 1 OR 2 THOROUGHFARES THAT YOU CAN CONTROL. YOU KNOW, HOW IT CAN MAKE WORK. IT MEANS IF IT'S GOING THROUGH SOME WETLAND, IF IT'S GOING THROUGH SOME EMINENT DOMAIN, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY CUT THROUGH IT IN ANOTHER WAY. AND THEN I THINK. 521 TEX DOT HAS APPROVED FOR WIDENING THAT. 521 JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, TEX DOT TAKES YEARS BEFORE THEY WIDEN THOSE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE ASK ABOUT TEX DOT, IT'S LIKE TEX DOT IS LIKE THIS BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT NOBODY REALLY TALKS TO. IT'S LIKE THE BIG MONSTER, RIGHT? SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH TEX DOT AND THE MILLER ROAD. I THINK SOMEONE HAD TALKED ABOUT MILLER ROAD. I HEARD FROM COUNTY THAT EVENTUALLY MILLER MILLER ROAD AND AND COUNTY ROAD 57 WILL ALIGN. AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER IN THE LONG RUN. WE'RE TALKING 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHERE IT'S COMING. SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVEMENTS. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER. AND I'VE HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT YOU HAVE EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD. EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD IS IT'S IT'S FINE, BUT IT'S BUT WE HAVE OTHERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, IN THE AREA THAT WE KNOW THAT. MCLEAN EAST AND SORRY, EAST HAMPTON, EAST HAMPTON DRIVE, WHERE WE LOCK THAT WITH POLICE AND FIRE, HAS A GATE CODE AND ACCESS TO GO THROUGH THAT. MAYBE PERHAPS THERE'S SOMETHING HERE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT'S LESS AFFECTING, LESS NEIGHBORHOOD AND LESS HOME AND NOT TO REBUILD IT. MAYBE LOOK [01:30:04] AT SOME SORT OF A ACCESS, IF THAT HELPS TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WITH PNC PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND I DON'T KNOW, CITY ATTORNEY, HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WANTS TO CALL AN ADDITIONAL MEETING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY OR THEY JUST HAVE A MEETING ONCE A MONTH? SEE, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS ALLOWED TO CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS. SO THEY COULD CERTAINLY HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING IS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY IF THE IF THE COMMISSIONERS WANTS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETING JUST WITH STAFF, WITH ENGINEERING TEAM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS, THEN YOUR CHAIR OR YOUR WIFE'S CHAIR OR YOUR TEAM COULD CALL, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, GET WITH JOYCE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TEAM AFTERWARDS AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN COME THROUGH AND UNDERSTAND SOME OF THIS. AND WILL THOSE MEETINGS, IF THEY DO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, WILL THOSE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THEY WOULD ADDITIONALLY BE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO THEY WOULD BE OPEN MEETINGS, OPEN MEETINGS, SO THE PUBLIC CAN COME IN AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR ACTIONS. SO GREAT IDEA. I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS, BUT I WOULD SAY MAYBE, PERHAPS WE BRING IT DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT'S A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE THIS LOOKS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, PASSING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I MEAN, IT'S A PLAN TILL THE NEXT BUSINESS THAT SHOWS UP RIGHT WHERE IT GOES. SO I THINK PUTTING SOMETHING IN PLACE WITHOUT HAVING ANY TYPE OF ALLOCATION, ANY TYPE OF MONEY, ANY TYPE OF COUNTY PARTNERSHIP, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHERE IF IT'S NOT EVEN POSSIBLE COMING, I THINK WE JUST BASICALLY SAYING THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE OR BIG MAJOR PLAN THAT ULTIMATELY SOMEWHERE THIS WILL END UP BEING. SO THAT'S MY HUMBLE SUGGESTIONS. AND I THINK I WOULD ASK CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER PEARSON TO LOOK IT THROUGH, HAVING SOME MORE DETAILED MEETINGS, BECAUSE I THINK THEY HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO PUSH IT TO COUNCIL. WHEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL, TO ME THAT THEY HAVE WEIGHED ALL THE OPTIONS THEY'VE LOOKED AT WITH THE STAFF, EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE 20, YOU KNOW, 100 DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEMS. AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO WATCH THAT MEETING AND GO THROUGH IT. AND THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND AND MAKE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. AND ONCE THEY PUSH THROUGH COUNCIL, IT SHOULD BE BASICALLY THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD, DECENT PROJECT OR DECENT SUGGESTION THAT THAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING TO GO FORWARD. THAT'S MY COMMENT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND YIELD. RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER KIRK. THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANTED A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL MAP AND THIS IS LIKE WE'RE PUTTING PLACEHOLDERS ON THESE SPACES SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DIG IN, DIG DEEPER, GET THE INFORMATION THAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR PREMATURELY. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS MAP IS JUST PUT A PIN IN IT AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO SET THIS LAND ASIDE LIKE TEN. THAT'S OUR ETJ. THAT'S GOT NOTHING IN IT RIGHT NOW. BUT SAY A DEVELOPER CAME ALONG ONCE THAT TOLL ROAD OPENED AND THEY MAKE NEW PLANS AND THEY WANT TO THROW THINGS OUT THERE, WE WANT TO PUT A PIN IN THESE PROPERTIES SO THAT NOTHING CAN GO THERE. RIGHT? I THINK THE LAND BETWEEN THE NUMBERS, THE LITERAL NUMBERS, NOT THE ACTUAL ROUTES, THE NUMBERS TWO AND FOUR IS IN PROCESS OF BEING PLATTED. THEY WANT TO. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF CONCEPT CONCEPTUAL SEGMENTS MAPPED OUT, THEN WE GET IN TROUBLE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SET IT ASIDE. SO THIS WHAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE VOTING ON IS JUST SETTING THE IDEAS ASIDE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR CITY PLANS SO THAT WE DON'T WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ALLOW SOMETHING TO HAPPEN IN THESE SPACES OR, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL PREVENT US FROM BEING ABLE TO, TO USE THESE ROUTES, KIND OF LIKE WE'VE BEEN HEMMED IN AND PINNED DOWN WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT. SO I, AM I RIGHT IN THINKING THAT THIS, WHAT ALL IT'S BEING VOTED ON IS JUST SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO KIND OF JUST SET THESE IDEAS ASIDE SO THAT WE CAN DIG IN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS NEEDED, YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND THE STOP SIGNS AND ALL THOSE STUDIES GET DONE LATER. YOU GUYS DON'T WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE MONEY OR ANYTHING UP FRONT TO EVEN FIGURE THAT OUT. WE JUST WANT TO PUT A PIN IN IT. RIGHT. OKAY. CAN THESE ROUTES BE ADDED TO SAY WE GET IN THERE, WE VOTE ON THIS, SAY WE LOVE IT, WE HATE [01:35:01] IT, WE WHATEVER. IT'S JUST CONCEPTUAL. CAN WE ADD TO IT WHEN WE FIGURE OUT IN SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, TWO YEARS THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS? CAN WE ADD TO THIS? OH, YES. OKAY. IT CREATES THE PROCESS JUST JUST LIKE WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW. YEAH. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. I JUST ALSO HEARD COMMISSIONER ATWOOD TALKED ABOUT ONE PIECE, WHICH IS REALLY IF YOU LOOK AT CENTER PARKWAY, THE BOTTLENECK IS REALLY BETWEEN MCKEEVER TO WATERS LAKE BOULEVARD. IT'S THE PEOPLE BEHIND THAT CAN SOMEHOW GET OUT THROUGH USING 521 AND THE PEOPLE ABOVE MCKEEVER, YOU CAN GET OUT SEEING A RANCH. I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET OUT. IT'S REALLY THOSE POCKETS. IT'S THE BOTTLENECK IS BETWEEN MCKEEVER AND WATERS. LAKE BOULEVARD IS WHERE WE NEEDED TO GO. SO I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST TO THE COMMISSIONER, WHEN YOU GUYS BRING IT BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING, REALLY FOCUS ON THAT PIECE AND HOW TO GET THAT PEOPLE FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE SIENNA, IF YOU LOOK AT IT AND HOW THEY CAN GET IN AND OUT, RATHER THAN US TRYING TO COME UP WITH ALL THESE PLANS ALL OVER THE PLACE. BECAUSE I THINK THE KEY HERE IS THAT THE PEOPLE ABOVE THE NORTH OF MCKEEVER, TRUST ME, THEY'LL GET OUT. THERE'S A WAY TO GET OUT. PEOPLE PASS WATERS LAKE, THEY'LL GO. I MEAN, IT IS A LITTLE LONG ROAD, BUT THEY GO OUT 521 FASTER AND GET OUT. IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT'S BY THE RAILWAY TRACK, THAT ROAD. THAT RIGHT THERE ARE THE ONES THAT STUCK. AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE CREATIVE TO COME UP WITH ENTRY POINT TO, TO GET AN ACCESS TO PEOPLE TO GET OUT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE, ESPECIALLY AT THE FACT THAT I THINK I THINK I HEARD FROM YOU THE WIDENING OF THE WHOLE SIENNA PARKWAY, SOMEWHERE AROUND 150 MILLION. AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT CITY OF OUR SIZE DON'T HAVE 150 MILLION TO WIDEN OUR PARKWAY, EVEN WITH PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CAN GET FROM FORT BEND COUNTY AND ELSEWHERE, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY AT ONE TIME TO COME UP WITH TO MAKE THIS WORK. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. I YIELD BACK MAYOR PRO TEM KLAUS. YES, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR NO MORE THAN TEN MINUTES TO GET LEGAL ADVICE ON ONE ITEM, PARTICULARLY SURROUNDING TIMING. SO IF WE CAN DO THAT, I KNOW WE HAVE RESIDENTS HERE THAT ARE HERE FOR OTHER ISSUES, BUT I NEED EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND HERE THAT EVERYBODY HERE THAT TOOK TIME OUT TO BE HERE IS HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IF YOU WILL ALLOW US THAT TIME, MAYOR AND MY COLLEAGUES, TO GO BACK NO MORE THAN TEN MINUTES TO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ANSWERED, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC. WHAT'S YOUR CODE? MY MOTION, YEAH, TO IS TO GO BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO 5.5, 1.071. IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S BEEN A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DO WE NEED YOU NEED TO CALL A ROLL CALL. GO AHEAD. YES. I'M SORRY. WHICH WHICH ITEM ARE YOU WANTING? THIS ITEM. THE ITEM THAT WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW. SIX A YES MEMBER. EMERY. YES. MEMBER. O'DEKIRK. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM KLAUSER. YES. MEMBER. THOMPSON. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THE TIME IS 801. CITY COUNCIL IS NOW BACK INTO A SPECIAL MEETING WITH A JOINT MEETING WITH PNC AND COUNCIL. ITEM ON SIX A. SO I WOULD SAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO OUR CITY ENGINEER ON THIS ITEM? NO, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. SO, PNC. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. NO. ALL RIGHT. WITH NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT ITEM. [b. Public Hearing - To receive comments for or against a request by Makmo...] THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ITEM IS SIX B IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST A REQUEST BY MARK MOORE DESIGN, LLC FOR SUP SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A GAS STATION. AND TO THE EXTENT SUCH ZONING DEVIATES FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE AND [01:40:04] CHARACTER MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROVIDE FOR AN AMENDMENT THEREFROM. WE HAVE. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING. CITY SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE RECEIVED ANYONE TO REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, MR. MAYOR, WE DO. ALL RIGHT. NATASHA WADSWORTH. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. STAFF, CAN WE PLEASE GET THE CLOCK? GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER. PLANNING AND ZONING. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DOCTOR NATASHA WADSWORTH. I LIVE AT 1518 WEST APRIL REIGN COURT. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF QUAIL GREEN SOUTH SUBDIVISION AND AN ELECTED OFFICIAL SERVING ON FORT BEND MUD 26, A NURSE PRACTITIONER AND A FORMER MEMBER OF THE TEXAS PARKWAY CARTWRIGHT CORRIDOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO STRONGLY OPPOSE THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE PROPOSED SUNRISE GAS STATION AT TEXAS PARKWAY AND TURTLE CREEK DRIVE, AND I HAVE SIGNED THE PROTEST FORM. THIS PROPOSED GAS STATION WOULD SIT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF QUAIL GREEN SOUTH. THIS IS NOT AN ABSTRACT ZONING ISSUE FOR US. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS WHERE OUR RESIDENTS DRIVE IN AND OUT EVERY DAY. THIS IS WHERE FAMILY, FAMILIES, CHILDREN AND OLDER ADULTS AND HOMEOWNERS ALREADY LIVE. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I AM NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. I SUPPORT THOUGHTFUL, RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT ALONG TEXAS PARKWAY. BUT THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS ARE NOT IN LINE WITH OUR 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE LONG TERM VISION FOR TEXAS PARKWAY. ANOTHER GAS STATION DOES NOT MOVE THE CORRIDOR FORWARD. THERE ARE THREE GAS STATIONS WITHIN A MILE. TEXAS PARKWAY ALREADY HAS PLENTY OF GAS STATIONS. WHAT WE NEED IS DEVELOPMENT THAT RAISES THE STANDARDS, IMPROVES THE CORRIDOR, SUPPORTS SAFETY, PROTECTS NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND ALIGNS WITH THE FUTURE. MISSOURI CITY SAYS IT WANTS TO BUILD A GAS STATION IS NOT SIMPLY ANOTHER RETAIL USE. IT BRINGS CONSTANT TRAFFIC, FUEL DELIVERIES, IDLE IDLING VEHICLES, BRIGHT CANOPY LIGHTING, NOISE, TRASH, POSSIBLE LOITERING, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS FROM UNDERGROUND FUEL STORAGE AND POTENTIAL LATE NIGHT ACTIVITY. THOSE IMPACTS DO NOT STAY ON THE COMMERCIAL TRACK. THEY SPILL DIRECTLY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS PRESIDENT OF QUAIL GREEN SOUTH, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY, CHARACTER, ENTRANCE AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR SUBDIVISION. AS A NURSE PRACTITIONER, I ALSO VIEW THIS AS A PUBLIC HEALTH LENS. I ALSO VIEW THIS THROUGH A PUBLIC HEALTH LENS. RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT BE UNNECESSARILY EXPOSED TO INCREASED VEHICLE EXHAUST, FUEL VAPORS, TRAFFIC HAZARDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WHEN THIS CORRIDOR HAS ALREADY GAS STATION ACCESS AND COULD SUPPORT A BETTER USE. THIS REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THAT MEANS IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC. THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR SPECIAL PERMISSION. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ISSUE A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS SPECIFIC USE COMMISSION, AND I ALSO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL VOTE NO AGAINST THIS. DEVELOPMENT IS WELCOME. REVITALIZATION IS WELCOME. BUT THIS GAS STATION, IN THIS LOCATION, DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR QUAIL GREEN SOUTH, IS NOT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. JUST CITY SECRETARY. SHE SAID SHE SUBMITTED A PROTEST LETTER, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT IN MY POCKET. I EMAILED IT. OKAY. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF IT WAS INCLUDED. JESSICA HILL. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JESSICA HILL AND I AM A 23 YEAR RESIDENT OF QUAIL GREEN SOUTH, WHERE I SERVE AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE QUAIL GREEN SOUTH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I AM HERE TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO OBJECT TO AND VOTE NO ON THE REQUEST BY DESIGN, LLC TO PLACE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A GAS STATION AND ALLOW FOR ZONING DEVIATIONS AT THE CORNER OF THE NORTH TEXAS PARKWAY ENTRANCE OF QUAIL GREEN SOUTH. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IT, [01:45:01] WHERE IT HAS CHARACTER, CHILDREN AND LIVELIHOODS. THIS IS OUR HOME AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT YOU TO REMEMBER. PLACING ANOTHER GAS STATION AT THAT EXACT LOCATION INTRODUCES MORE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, SAFETY CONCERNS, ENVIRONMENTAL RISK, AND A SIGNIFICANT SHIFT IN THE CHARACTER OF THAT AREA. IF YOU LOOK AND DRIVE BY THAT CORNER, THAT CORNER IS SMALLER THAN ANY OTHER CORNER. IT IS ONLY 1.37 ACRES. LARGE FREIGHT TRUCKS CANNOT FIT IN THAT CORNER. LARGE STORAGE TANKS WILL BE PLACED UNDERGROUND. THERE'S NEVER DAMAGE FROM A NEW STORAGE TANK. IT'S 20 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THE SECOND GENERATIONS AND THIRD GENERATIONS OF THEIR FAMILIES COME AND VISIT WITH THOSE HEALTH PROBLEMS, TOO. BUT I WANT TO BRING THE ATTENTION TO THE FINANCIAL IMPACT THAT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THESE RESIDENTS. THE RESIDENTS OF QUAIL GREEN SOUTH ARE LITERALLY ALREADY PAYING THE PRICE. OUR ESPLANADES ARE MAINTAINED BY RESIDENTS, NOT THE CITY AND NOT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE DAMAGE FROM THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, INCREASED TRAFFIC FROM THE ADDING THE SECOND HIGHEST INTENSITY USE BUSINESS FORM OF A GAS STATION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL ACCELERATE WEAR AND TEAR, LEADING TO MORE FREQUENT REPAIRS AND HIGHER COSTS THAT WE AS HOMEOWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CURRENT OUTLYING BUSINESSES THAT BORDER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DO NOT MAKE ANY FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE UPKEEP OR BEAUTIFICATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR ESPLANADES. AT OUR SOUTHERN ENTRANCE AT CARTWRIGHT ROAD IN TEXAS PARKWAY, THERE IS ALREADY A LARGE NATIONAL GAS STATION AND RETAIL STRIP CENTER. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY OVERBURDENED WITH THE VOLUME OF PATRONS AND TRAFFIC, WHICH HAS RESULTED IN CONGESTION, AND THAT INCREASED WEAR AND TEAR, AS WELL AS DAMAGE TO OUR ESPLANADES GAS STATIONS BEING CONSTANT VEHICLE FLOW, LATE NIGHT NOISE, LIGHTING, EVERYTHING THEY BRING ALL OF THESE THINGS IN THE STORAGE TANK. SIMPLY PUT, WE ALREADY HAVE A VERY LARGE NATIONAL GAS STATION, A DOLLAR STORE, A CLEANERS, A RESTAURANT, A DONUT SHOP, A NAIL SHOP AND A BARBER SHOP, AND A VERY LARGE MISSOURI CITY LED SIGN THAT SIT AT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION THAT BURDENS OUR HOMES. WE ASK THAT COUNCIL VOTE NO TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY VALUES AND THE WALLETS OF THE RESIDENTS OF QUAIL GREEN SOUTH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, EPHRAIM MOMIN. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS IRFAN MOMIN. AND THANK YOU, LADIES. I TOOK A BEATING THERE. I'M THE OWNER AND THE DEVELOPER OF THAT LAND. FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS, WE'VE HELD THAT PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THAT PROPERTY IS ALSO MY SHOPPING CENTER. I USED TO WORK THERE WHILE IT WAS A 99 CENT STORE. AND THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANTED TO JUST INTRODUCE MYSELF. THIS PROJECT OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN IN WORKS FOR THE LAST YEAR. BEFORE THE ORDINANCE CHANGES WERE MADE, WE WERE ALREADY IN CONTRACT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS ALREADY WORKING WITH SPECIFICALLY THE ARCHITECTURES TO GET THIS MATTER DEVELOPED. THERE WAS A SLIDESHOW ALREADY SENT OVER TO THE PNC TO HAVE THAT PUT UP ALREADY AS WELL. AND I'LL LIKE TO BASICALLY SEE WHAT WE CAN DO HERE TO FIND OURSELVES IN A MIDDLE GROUND TO GET THIS PARTICULAR APPROVAL BEING THE FACT THAT I'VE BEEN TO VARIOUS CONFERENCES, TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DEVELOP OVER THERE BEING IT'S A 1.37 ACRE. THERE'S LIMITATIONS. EITHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OURSELVES FINDING OURSELVES A RETAIL CENTER WITH A BUNCH OF BOX STORES, EMPTY VACANT VACANCIES, AND MORE COMPETITION. SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP A OBVIOUSLY A GAS STATION THAT ANCHORS INTO AN ADDITIONAL BUSINESS THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO FIND WHAT'S BEST AVAILABLE FOR THEM, TO MAKE THE BEST CHOICES FOR THE PROPERTY ITSELF. WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING IN A SHELL GAS STATION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WILL OFFSET THE TEXACO, ALONG WITH THE VALERO THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT THERE'S OTHER TYPES OF GAS STATIONS THERE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH SOME NATIONAL TENANTS, PERHAPS A CHIPOTLE OR STARBUCKS THAT IS GOING TO COME IN THERE AS WELL, BUT THEY NEED AN ANCHOR BUSINESS TO COME IN THERE ITSELF. AND THAT'S WHY WITH THE LIMITED SIZE OF THAT LAND, 1.37 ACRES, BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS, 25 YEARS SITTING VACANT. ALSO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'VE IT'S KIND OF PERSONAL HERE, BUT WE DID LOSE MY MOM HERE LAST YEAR TOWARDS THE END OF DECEMBER, AND THIS CONTRACT WAS KIND OF ALREADY A CONTRACT IN PLACE THAT I WAS PURCHASING FROM MY FAMILY, WHICH IS OWNED BY MY DAD. THIS LAND IS ALONG WITH HIS BROTHER AND A PARTNER OF MINE. WE WENT INTO THIS CONTRACT. UNFORTUNATELY, DURING THE TIME OF THIS CONTRACT, THERE WAS SOME ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT WAS MADE WITHIN THE PNC, AND THAT'S PUT ME INTO A BIT OF A BIND HERE BETWEEN FAMILY MEMBERS AND MY OWN PARTNERS, AND A LOT OF FINANCIAL LOSS BEEN PUT OVER HERE WITH ALL THE DRAWING AND ALL THE SOFT COSTS PUT IN PLACE. THAT'S WHY I WOULD HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WHEN [01:50:03] THESE CHANGES ARE MADE IN PLACE, NEVER. WE WEREN'T NEVER CONTACTED. SO WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO DOING THE CLOSING. AND WHEN WE WENT IN TO DO THE PERMITTING, WE CAME TO FIND OUT THAT WE NEEDED AN SUP, WHICH PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A FRICTION BETWEEN ME AND MY PARTNERS AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S INVOLVED IN THIS TRANSACTION WITH ALL THAT. WITH ALSO, THAT BEING SAID, I'VE ACTUALLY SENT IN AN EMAIL QUITE A BIT OF MY SUPPORT ALREADY FOR THIS GAS STATION. I'VE ALREADY MET WITH STATE REP RONALD RON REYNOLDS THAT'S ALREADY SENT IN FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. IT'S ALREADY BEEN SENT IN TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS. AND IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER? THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, CHERYL CRAVEN. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHERYL CRAVEN AND I AM A RESIDENT OF QUAIL GREEN SOUTH, SECRETARY FOR THE HOA AND I LIVE AT 1310 BAILIFF COURT, MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS 77489. I AM HERE ASKING THE P AND Z TO VOTE AND ISSUE A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE GAS STATION. AND THESE ARE THE REASONS. FIRST OF ALL, I'VE SEEN NUMEROUS HOMELESS PEOPLE ON THAT IN THAT AREA IN THE PAST TWO TO 2 OR 3 YEARS. IT WOULD DRAW THEM CLOSE. IT WOULD PROBABLY DRAW THEM TO TO THE GAS STATION. CRIME RATE MAY INCREASE FROM THAT. AND ALSO ACROSS THE STREET IS A FAMILY DOLLAR. AND I'VE HAD TO CALL SEVERAL TIMES. WHEN MR. BONEY WAS IN OFFICE ABOUT CLEANING THAT AREA UP. IT WAS A LOT OF TRASH. I USED TO RIDE MY BIKE THERE, AND I WAS ALWAYS CALLING AND ASKING FOR THE CITY TO COME CLEAN THAT AREA UP. IT'S GOING TO CREATE WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR STREETS FROM THE DIESEL TRUCKS, NOISE, FOUL SMELLS AND INCREASING LOTTERY AND ALSO ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION. OUR PROPERTY TAXES WILL DECREASE BY 18,000 TO 42,000 PER HOUSEHOLD. AND ALSO WE HAVE LIKE MY MY NEIGHBORS WERE SAYING, WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL MEDIUM ON BOTH ENDS. YOU CAN ONLY GO IN THROUGH THE TURTLE CREEK AND FM 2234 FROM EITHER DIRECTION. AND WE HAVE OUR BEAUTIFUL MEDIUM THERE. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT. WE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAINTAIN IT. SO WE FEEL THAT THE, THE, INSTEAD OF BUILDING A GAS STATION THERE, THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD BUILD SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS, SUCH AS TRADE SERVICES, MAYBE A SELF-STORAGE, SOMETHING OTHER THAN A GAS STATION. THIS COULD CAUSE GREAT HEALTH. YOU KNOW, IT JUST NOT GOOD. AND THIS IS THIS STATION IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE MISSOURI CITY ZONING PROCESS FOR THE TEXAS PARKWAY CORRIDOR. IT'S GOING TO DRAW TRAFFIC AND ALSO ON ON OUR STREET ON CARTWRIGHT. WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S A LOT OF SPEEDING THERE. SO WE CAN'T GET SPEED BUMPS. AND I'VE SEEN KIDS, WHEN THEY WERE WAITING FOR THE SCHOOL BUSSES, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO WAIT ON THE SIDE, BUT I'VE SEEN CARS COME THROUGH THERE, SO IT COULD PROBABLY CAUSE MORE SPEEDING IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. LASTLY, OUR SUBDIVISION IS VERY QUIET, PEACEFUL. WE HAVE OLDER ADULTS THERE, SENIORS MAYBE IN EARLY 60S. AND WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND WE WOULD LIKE OUR COMMUNITY TO STAY SAFE, SERENE. WE WANT OUR HOME VALUES TO STAY THE SAME OR INCREASE AND TO STAY CLEAN. THAT IS TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANTHONY BALDWIN. ANTHONY BALDWIN. MR. MAYOR, IT APPEARS THAT ANTHONY BALDWIN IS NOT HERE. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM SHASHI KUMAR. YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONERS. I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS ZONING CASE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING TODAY. IT'S A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING FOR P AND Z AND CITY COUNCIL, AND NO ACTION IS BEING PROPOSED AT THIS MEETING. JUST WANT TO RECAP THE CITY COUNCIL 2040 VISION, COMMUNITY IDENTITY AND QUALITY OF PLACE, SMART GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC STRENGTH AND TAX BASE HOUSING AND LIVABILITY. AGAIN, TONIGHT'S ACTION. JUST PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANY INPUT AND [01:55:02] DISCUSSION FROM PNC AND COUNCIL ACTION ITEM WILL BE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ON MAY 13TH FOR A RECOMMENDATION, AND CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IS TENTATIVELY PLANNED FOR JUNE 15TH, WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. NORTHWEST CORNER OF TEXAS PARKWAY AND TURTLE, RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE QUAIL GREEN SOUTH SUBDIVISION. THE CURRENT ZONING IS LC THREE. BASED ON THE LATEST ZONING ORDINANCE WE HAVE. SINCE THIS PROPERTY IS PROPOSED FOR A GAS STATION USE AND IS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO A RESIDENCE, THIS WILL REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THIS IS THE RENDERING OF HOW THE GAS STATION WOULD PROPOSE. GAS STATION WOULD LOOK LIKE. AGAIN, THIS IS AS PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER. THEY ARE PROPOSING SOME ACCESS, BUT AGAIN, THESE HAVE NOT BEEN VETTED OR VERIFIED BY THE STAFF AS IT STANDS OR AS IS PROPOSED. IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING 7200 SQUARE FOOT WITH PROPOSED TEN FUEL PUMPS. NOW, IF AN SP IS APPROVED, THE REQUIREMENTS OF CP ARE. IT'S PERMITTED WITHIN 200FT OF TWO INTERSECTING STREETS. SO THAT'S WHERE THIS GAS STATION NEEDS TO BE LOCATED, WHICH KIND OF MEETS MAXIMUM TWO CORNERS. INTERSECTION OF TWO ARTERIAL STREETS. MAXIMUM ONE CORNER INTERSECTION WITH A LOCAL STREET. THESE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A GAS STATION, AND ANY AIR PUMPS AND VACUUMS SHOULD BE AT LEAST 150FT FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE. THESE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE SUP FOR A GAS STATION AS REQUIRED. A PUBLIC NOTICE WAS SENT AS YOU SEE THERE. IT WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY FOR HOMES ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY AS IDENTIFIED IN THAT BLUE ZONE. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT AS OF THIS PRESENTATION. EIGHT WRITTEN PROTESTS WERE RECEIVED AND BY AND LARGE, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY. A IS IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE HOMES. B THERE ARE MANY ADJACENT GAS STATIONS WITHIN THE ONE MILE RADIUS. SO WE DON'T NEED A GAS STATION. THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERIC NATURE OF THE THE QUESTIONS OR COMPLAINTS WE'VE GOTTEN. ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS IS I THINK THE APPLICANT BROUGHT THIS UP. THE APPLICATION FOR AN SUP WAS RECEIVED AFTER THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS CHANGED. I THINK THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS CHANGED ON OR AROUND AUGUST 25TH. SO THIS APPLICATION FOR AN SUP WAS SUBMITTED AFTER THE ZONING WAS ADOPTED BY THIS BODY. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH THAT ONE. HERE IS A PRESENTATION BY THE DEVELOPER THAT HAS GIVEN US, AND AS REQUESTED, STAFF, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO THIS BODY. AND AGAIN, THERE ARE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THEY HAVE PROPOSED NOT BEEN VERIFIED BY STAFF. NEITHER IS OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND WE JUST WANTED TO BE HIGHLIGHTED. THIS IS THE PRESENTATION AS RECEIVED BY THE STAFF, BY THE DEVELOPER, AND THEY WANT TO PRESENT IT SUBJECT TO YOUR CONCURRENCE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING. I THINK THEY CAN PRESENT THIS OVER THERE. AND THEN EVENTUALLY, WHENEVER IT COMES TRAVELS UP TOWARDS US, WE LOOK AT IT. OBJECTIVE WAS TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND THEN HEAR FROM COMMISSIONERS AND HEAR FROM OUR COLLEAGUES ON ANY INITIAL QUESTIONS OR SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY HAVE, AND WE'LL GO DOWN RECOGNIZING. COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. THANK YOU. SO WHAT OBLIGATION DID THE CITY HAVE TO TO CONTACT THE LANDOWNERS OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE? IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW AND CONTINUED PROGRESS AND THEN SUBMITTED THEIR PERMIT BEFORE THEY FIGURED OUT THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THIS. AS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER KUMAR MENTIONED, THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED AFTER THE ORDINANCE CHANGED. IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071. BUT AS THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER STATED, THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED AFTER THE ORDINANCE CHANGED. THANK YOU. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. SO PERHAPS AS IS DAVID, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IS HE ALLOWED TO STEP UP? YOU CAN. YES. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. OKAY. YOU'VE RECENTLY MENTIONED OUR POSTAGE STAMP PARCELS THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE. KNOWING THAT THIS IS LC THREE, RIGHT. ZONED. WHAT WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WOULD THERE BE IN YOUR EXPERIENCE FOR THIS SITE OTHER THAN A GAS STATION? YEAH, THIS [02:00:02] SITE ACTUALLY, IN TERMS OF A PAD SITE IS ACTUALLY A FAIRLY REASONABLE SIZE. AND YOU WOULD SEE DEVELOPERS MOVE FORWARD ON A SITE LIKE THIS. SO THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF USES THAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE THERE. I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT IS WHAT ARE THE BEST. I THINK NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE RETAIL WOULD LIKELY BE THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OF GAS STATION OPERATORS IN THAT ONE MILE CORRIDOR THERE. SO WE, WE, FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT, WOULD SAY THIS IS PROBABLY VERY CLOSE TO, IF NOT ALREADY A SATURATED MARKET AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE MORE AND MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND ALTERNATIVE VEHICLES ENTER THE MARKETPLACE, WE COULD VERY EASILY BE IN A SITUATION WHERE GAS IS NOT AS MARKETABLE AND COULD START TO HAVE CHALLENGES IN REDEVELOPING SITES THAT HAVE BEEN SET UP FOR GAS STATIONS. SO THAT'S THAT'S A BIG CONCERN OF OURS, PARTICULARLY IN SUCH A SMALL RESTRICTED CORRIDOR. AND SO ANY, ANY NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE USE COULD POTENTIALLY GO HERE. THIS IS A 1.3 ACRE SITE. SO IT HAS A LOT OF VERSATILITY. IT'S NOT AS SMALL AS IT COULD BE FOR MORE TRADITIONAL GAS STATIONS. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING MAYOR PRO TEM CLAUSEN YES. ALL RIGHT. WHERE DO I START. HERE. WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? YES, IRFAN. YES, MA'AM. CAN YOU COME ON UP HERE? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE FINE. OKAY. FIRST I WANT TO SAY I'VE CONDOLENCE. CONDOLENCES TO YOU. LOSING YOUR MOTHER IN IN IN ALL OF THIS. IT'S A LOT. YES, MA'AM. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS BUSINESS. IT AIN'T PERSONAL. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS. SURE. DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ANY OWNERSHIP IN ANY OF THE GAS STATIONS AROUND THIS PROPERTY? YES, I ACTUALLY YES AND NO TO. SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE HAVE MULTIPLE PARTNERS WITHIN THAT. SO I'M A SILENT PARTNER TO MAJORITY OF THESE. DO YOU HAVE OWNERSHIP? YES, I DO IN A GAS STATION THAT IS AROUND THIS PROPERTY. YES I DO. OKAY. DO YOU LIVE IN MISSOURI CITY OR HAVE ANY HISTORY OF LIVING IN MISSOURI CITY? I LIVE IN RICHMOND, TEXAS AND LIVED IN SUGARLAND BUT NOT LIVED IN MISSOURI CITY. OKAY, BUT I'VE BEEN IN MISSOURI CITY AND OWNED THAT REAL ESTATE ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE TEXACO IS. GREAT POINT. YEP. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. WERE YOU AROUND IN 2022? I'M SORRY, 2022. I'VE OWNED IT SINCE 1999. SO OKAY, GREAT. YEAH, GREAT. 2022. AND IF YOU WERE NOT AWARE OF THIS, LET ME REFRESH, REFRESH YOUR REFRESH YOUR MIND. SURE. THERE WAS A GAS STATION THAT WAS PROPOSED IN 2022 HUNTERS GLEN PARK. ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WERE IN TUNED TO THIS AREA AND YOU WERE THERE, YOU'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1999, THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA DID NOT WANT THE ONE THAT THEY GOT. SURE, THEY HEAVILY PROTESTED IT. MANY OF US PROTESTED IT. AND GUESS WHAT? THEY GOT A GAS STATION. ONE THEY REALLY DID NOT WANT. BUT THAT WAS BASED ON ZONING. LEGALLY, THE OWNERS DECIDED TO GO AGAINST WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTED AND THEY PUT IT THERE. WOULD DEVELOPERS NEED TO DO WITH MISSOURI CITY? AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE DEVELOPED STRICTER GUIDELINES FOR GAS STATIONS, HENCE THE REGULATIONS THAT CAME FORTH IN WHICH YOU SUBMITTED YOUR SUP AFTER THAT WAS THAT VOTE WAS TAKING PLACE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE OBVIOUS, THE HEALTH CONCERNS, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED, THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU MENTIONED THERE'S A TEXACO THERE. THERE'S A VALERO. YOU WANT TO BRING A SHELL. I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT? WHY DON'T WE BRING ON THE CIRCLE K? WHY DON'T WE JUST LOCK UP THE WHOLE THE WHOLE CORNER WITH GAS STATIONS? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH CARS IN MISSOURI CITY FOR ALL THOSE GAS STATIONS. YOU MENTIONED STATE REP RON REYNOLDS, WHO I LOVE DEARLY, STATE REP RON REYNOLDS DOESN'T ISN'T THE FRONT LINE FOR OUR [02:05:01] OUR OUR RESIDENTS? WE ARE WE MAKE THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS. I NEED FOR YOU AND I'M THIS IS YOUR. LET ME GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO ADDRESS THE RESIDENTS BEHIND. BEHIND YOU. TELL. GIVE. GIVE THEM ONE REASON WHY THEY NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION RIGHT THERE, IF I MAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FORMAT, AND THIS MEETING IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, TO KIND OF HAVE THAT OPEN DIALOG AND TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. SO I WOULD ASK THAT, OKAY, SO YOU TELL ME AND THEN I'LL TELL THEM WHY. GIVE ME ONE REASON WHY THEY NEED ONE ADDITIONAL GAS STATION THERE. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MISS COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS LIN. I APPRECIATE YOU. WELL, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MORE SPECIFICALLY, I HAVE ENTERTAINED MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOT, BEING THAT I OWNED IT SINCE 20 YEARS, WENT TO VARIOUS CONVENTIONS IN LAS VEGAS, ADVERTISED IT. NOT MANY MORE OTHER OPTIONS ARE GOING TO COME IN THERE OTHER THAN FAST FOOD, WHICH NOW THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN IT, BECAUSE I DID TRY TO CIRCLE BACK TO THOSE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. RETAIL STRIP CENTERS WOULD JUST BE A BUNCH OF VACANCIES, ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF THESE OTHER EXISTING SIMILAR SITUATION TO OUR GAS STATION. ANY OTHER RETAIL CENTER IS JUST GOING TO BE ONE MORE RETAIL CENTER IN THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR, THAT WHOLE AREA, JUST ONE MORE RETAIL CENTER OF JUST A BOX, EMPTY SPOTS, VACANCIES, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY LOOK GOOD TO WHERE IT DOESN'T MONETIZE THE PROPERTY DEVELOPERS. BUT OBVIOUSLY FROM THE POINT OF MAXIMIZING AND MONETIZING TAX REVENUE, THAT'S GREAT. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE VACANCIES, YOU'RE RUNNING THE RISK OF FAILING BUSINESSES. AND WE ALL KNOW FROM THE COVID STANDPOINT HOW THESE SMALL BUSINESSES DIED OUT. NOW BEING THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE RIGHT ACROSS ALREADY HAS TENANTS THERE. I JUST DIDN'T SEE THE NEED TO BUILD IN ANOTHER RETAIL CENTER. NOW, I HAVE LOOKED INTO POSSIBLE VARIATIONS OF DOING A CAR WASH. THERE WAS NOT JUST THEY SAID THEY WERE BACK, BACK INTO THE TRAFFIC WAS NOT AVAILABLE. IT GOES BACK TO. THEY THEY. THEY RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL. SIMILAR CONCERNS WOULD BE THERE FOR THAT REASON TOO. BUT OF COURSE, YOU'RE REGULATED BY THE STATE WHEN YOU'RE A GAS STATION TO BE MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE. THEY'RE MONITORED ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. AND THEN WHAT I ALSO THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION AVAILABLE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE. NOW, THE BIGGER THE SIZE, MORE THE OPPORTUNITY GOT A LOT BIGGER ROOM TO PLAY WITH, SMALLER THE SIZE YOU'RE LIMITED IN, YOU'RE CONDENSED. NOW I UNDERSTAND MR. DAVID, THE ECONOMIC DIRECTOR, HAD MENTIONED, AND I THINK HE AND I HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED THAT'S COMING UP THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO. I'VE ALREADY MET WITH ELIJAH WASHINGTON, TALKED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO BRING OTHER VARIATIONS, BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO SEE WHAT WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO MAKE SURE THAT I SATISFY ALSO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THERE. I'M JUST AGAINST THE FENCE WHEN IT COMES TO LIMITATION ON THE SIZE OF THE LAND, HOLDING IT FOR 20 YEARS, PAYING MY PROPERTY TAXES BUT NOT DEVELOPING ANYTHING. AND NOW, AS MY FATHER'S AGING AND BECAUSE OF MY MOM'S LOSS, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT SO WELL MEDICALLY, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET HIM TO EXIT OUT SO HE CAN FINALLY BE ABLE TO RETIRE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY HOLDING PROJECT THAT'S BASICALLY UNDER HIS PORTFOLIO. AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL OF THAT. NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND IT'S BUSINESS. AND FROM A POINT OF BUSINESS, I'VE ADDRESSED THE CONCERNS, THE SIZE, THE BIGGER THE SIZE, I'LL BE ALL FOR IT BECAUSE I WANT TO SERVE WHAT'S BEST. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WHAT WE MENTIONED. I BELIEVE IN OUR LAST HEARING THAT THE MISSOURI WANTS TO BE VERY COMPETITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AND NEIGHBORING CITIES. I'M ALL FOR THAT. BUT WHEN YOU'RE AGAINST THE WALL, WHEN YOU'RE AGAINST THE LIMITATION OF WHAT YOU CAN DEVELOP, YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR I UNDERSTAND EARLIER A COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT A STORAGE FACILITY, NOT A GOOD, NOT NOT A GOOD LOOK, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE JUST GOING TO SIT UP REALLY HIGH. THEN THE FACT IS THAT THE SPACE IS SMALL. AGAIN, THE PEOPLE NEED PARKING, PEOPLE NEED TO UNLOAD, PEOPLE NEED TO. THE SPACE ITSELF LIMITS THAT BECAUSE I HAVE LOOKED INTO THAT OPTION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD BUSINESS FOR ME TO GO INTO. IT'S A RENTAL BUSINESS, BUT IT'S JUST THE SIZE. IT'S SIZE LIMITS IT. THAT'S WHY IF YOU NOTICE FROM THE DRAWING, I MEAN, FROM THE SLIDESHOW, I'M SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ESTHETICALLY APPEALING FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHILE I'M ALSO DEVELOPING THE LIMITED OPTION THAT I HAVE TO WORK WITH IT. IT COULD LOOK LIKE A TAJ MAHAL FOR ALL. I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. I'M NOT, I'M NOT. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO YOUR CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND IT'S ONE MORE GAS STATION. I KNOW THAT METAPHOR. I BELIEVE ME, IT ACHES ME TO SAY THAT TO TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT REJECTING YOUR OBJECTION. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I'M REALLY NOT. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT THE CHALLENGES I'M RUNNING INTO. I GET IT. SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE HAVING MEETINGS WITH ELI. YOU'RE [02:10:05] HAVING MEETINGS WITH DAVID. AND IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE YOU NEED TO BE, IS HAVING THESE MEETINGS SO YOU CAN FIND AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH IN PUTTING SOMETHING THERE THAT GOES WITH THE CHARACTER OF WHERE WE WANT MISSOURI CITY TO BE IN 2040, SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT COMPROMISE THE HEALTH AND THE INTEGRITY OF DISTRICT A, AND SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMUNITY WANTS AND CAN GET BEHIND. BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT IS WE WANT PARTNERS. WE WANT DEVELOPERS TO COME IN NOT JUST TO MAKE MONEY, BUT WE WANT Y'ALL TO COME IN AND BE PARTNERS BECAUSE YOU ALL WANT THE DISTRICT A RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT YOUR BUSINESS AND ALL THE REST OF MISSOURI CITY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT FOR YOU AND FOR EVERY DEVELOPER, WHEN YOU BRING SOMETHING INTO MISSOURI CITY, WE WANT YOU TO TO BRING IT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CONTENTIOUS, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WRAP OUR MINDS AROUND, WRAP OUR MONEY AROUND AND SUPPORT. AND THIS JUST AIN'T IT. I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. I REST MY, MY. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT. NO, NO. HOLD ON. WE GOT I HAVE PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE AND THEN MAYOR PRO TEM WILL TAKE IT. YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHASHI, I, I HAVE JUST TWO QUESTIONS. WHEN THIS. WHEN THIS WHOLE APPLICATION, I GUESS THEY FILLED IT OUT. DID THEY GO THROUGH PLANNING? YES. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YES THEY DID. I BELIEVE THERE WAS A PRE DEVELOPMENT MEETING ALSO AND THE APPLICANT WAS INFORMED ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WERE COMING TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE AS WELL. OKAY. SO THIS WAS KIND OF TALKED ABOUT WITH THE ZONING CHANGE. SO WHAT IS THIS ZONING CHANGE THAT TOOK PLACE. SO LC3 ZONING ALLOWS FOR GAS STATIONS. THE CHANGE THAT WAS MADE WAS IF IT IS IN PROXIMITY TO HOMES, WHICH IT IS, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN SUP PROCESS OR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING NOW. RIGHT? SO IF THAT IF THAT WAS NOT THERE, THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW TO THE SIMILAR SITUATION THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE HAD ANOTHER GAS STATION THAT WAS PART OF LC THREE, WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COULD NOT HAVE STOPPED IT WITHOUT HAVING THAT ORDINANCE IN PLACE. CORRECT. YES, I SO THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WORK WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THAT ORDINANCE IN PLACE SO THAT YOU HAVE PLACES LIKE THIS NEARBY HOMES, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT WE'RE NOW TRYING TO SPEND MONEY TO BRING IT BACK UP, WOULDN'T HAVE THIS ISSUE THAT THAT'S AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. AND TO THE COMMISSIONERS, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. THE FACT THAT THEY'RE HERE TODAY AND WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM, THE ONLY FACT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING AND STAFF WORK TOGETHER TO ADOPT THAT ORDINANCE THAT'S PROTECTING THE CITIZENS TO SOME WHAT POINT, OTHERWISE WE WOULD NOT EVEN BE DISCUSSING IT WOULD BE BACK TO LC THREE. WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYWAY. YOU GUYS CAN'T STOP US AND WE MAKE IT OUT, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. WHAT IS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO THIS FROM THE BEGINNING? WELL, STAFF PER SE SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO PASS THIS TEST. I THINK THE APPLICANT WAS INFORMED ABOUT THE LAST APPLICATION, WHICH THE MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED ABOUT IT, THAT NOTHING IS GUARANTEED HERE. IT HAS TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING, AND CITY COUNCIL STAFF CAN GIVE ANY RECOMMENDATION. BUT ULTIMATELY THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM P AND Z AND COUNCIL MAKES THE FINAL DECISION. SO THAT WAS CLEARLY EXPLAINED TO THE APPLICANT. HAVE WE ALSO, WHILE I ASKED THAT QUESTION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, IS HAVE WE ALSO TOLD WHAT. WHAT SHOULD. WHAT CAN SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES THAT CAN COME THERE? AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, DAVID JUST CAME ON BOARD. DAVID HAS ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE APPLICANT. I THINK THERE IS. YOU HEARD THAT THERE IS A MEETING SET UP TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK THAT CONVERSATION IS ONGOING. OKAY. SO THIS IS APPEARING ON PLANNING AND ZONING. WHEN. IT IS ON APRIL THE I THINK LET ME COME HERE. IT'S ON THE MAY 13TH. SO TO COME BEFORE THE MAY 13TH, BEFORE MAY 13TH AND THEN TENTATIVE WILL COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 15TH. RIGHT. SO IT'S IT'S COMING TOGETHER WITH THIS. OKAY. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT MY MY SUGGESTION IS CITY [02:15:07] MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IS THAT THEY GO THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REALLY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN COME IN THAT CORRIDOR THAT THAT THAT WOULD MAKE THAT CORRIDOR? THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOW KIND OF GAVE SOMEWHAT DIRECTIONS FOR TEXAS PARKWAY, AND THE FUTURE IS TO GIVE TEXAS PARKWAY AND HOW IT SHOULD BE, IF IT MITIGATES WITH THE PLAN OF WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO SEE. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS. THE RESIDENTS ON TEXAS PARKWAY AND, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY LIKE TO SEE THERE FROM STARBUCKS, YOU NAME IT, TO GOING DOWN ALL OF THESE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT THAT CORRIDOR IS LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING. AND I THINK IT FITS SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PLANS THAT WE ARE NOW PUSHING TOWARDS TEXAS PARKWAY, ESPECIALLY DURING OUR RETREAT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND I THINK THERE IS A WIN WIN SITUATION HERE. THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NICE THAT ALL THE RESIDENTS WOULD, WOULD, WOULD LOOK AT IT AS, AS A BENEFIT, SOMETHING YOU SEE ON HIGHWAY SIX OR, OR IN ANY OF THE OTHER CORRIDORS. BUT I AGREE WITH THE STAFF THAT GAS STATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE ONE OVER, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH. I THINK I WOULD SAY IS BETWEEN EDDIE AND BETWEEN OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I THINK THEY CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE FUTURISTIC OF TEXAS PARKWAY, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO YIELD RECOGNIZING. COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, STAFF FOR FOR PRESENTING THAT AND REALLY GIVING THAT CLARIFICATION IN REGARDS TO THE FILING OF THE SUP AND THIS TECHNICALLY, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED IS DISTRICT B, THE ONE THAT HAPPENED THAT WAS IN HUNTER'S GLEN PARK WAS DISTRICT A. AND SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT ANYTHING NEFARIOUS OR ANYTHING NEGATIVELY, BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITY, WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND BECAUSE WE'VE GONE DOWN THIS PROCESS BEFORE AND IT WAS IT WAS NOT TO THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS. AND AS WE TALK ABOUT AND WE HAVE DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE HERE TO GET SOLID INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC AND HEAR FROM Y'ALL. AND WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE I MEAN, I KNOW, I KNOW, I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING OUT AND STAYING HERE THROUGH THE DURATION OF THIS TIME TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES SO THAT WE CAN HEAR PERSONALLY FROM YOU WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE AND WHAT YOUR ISSUES ARE, AS WELL AS HEARING FROM THE DEVELOPER FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE A 2040 VISION THAT IS COMING FOR TEXAS PARKWAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO STICK TO THAT WHICH IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS AND THE FUTURE RESIDENTS AND THE FUTURE BUSINESSES OF MISSOURI CITY. THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS CITY STABLE, VIABLE, AND ATTRACTIVE. AND AS AS MUCH AS DEVELOPMENT, WE WANT GOOD DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO KEEP THIS CITY STABLE, WHICH IS OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR PROPERTY VALUES. AND SO WITH THAT, MY CONCERN IS WITH WHAT EVERYBODY HAS STATED HERE TODAY AND STAFF, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION ALSO. DID YOU GUYS MEET WITH THEM IN REGARDS TO THIS BEFORE THEY PROCEED? PURSUED A SUP APPLICATION BECAUSE THAT COULD BE EXTREMELY COMPLICATED AND TAXING AND FINANCIALLY EXPENSIVE IF THEY'RE HAVING TO MAKE CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HEAR THE RESIDENTS, YOUR CONCERNS AND TRUST THEY ARE MY CONCERNS. I HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS A DISTRICT, A COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN IT HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT. AND IT WAS IT WAS AN ATROCITY. AND SO MY OTHER CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC THAT IS ON THAT SIDE STREET. I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE SIDE STREET RIGHT THERE, BUT IT GOES FROM TEXAS PARKWAY AND IT'S SIDE STREET BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE THE FAMILY DOLLAR THAT LEADS DIRECTLY INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WILL CAUSE A LOT OF CUT THROUGH IN THAT PARTICULAR. THAT'S A SMALL LITTLE QUIET AREA OVER THERE. AND SO AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS CONSIDERATION OF A THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE IN MIND WHEN WE'RE ENTERTAINING THESE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS, WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO FOR THE CHARACTER AND TRAFFIC IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND MOST FAMILIES? [02:20:07] MOST PEOPLE HAVE CHILDREN AND THEY WANT TO PLAY OUTSIDE IN THE FRONT YARD, AND WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A TRAFFIC CONCERN OR A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN FOR THESE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE KIND OF JUMP IN AND JUMP OUT. I'M ALL FOR THE STARBUCKS CHICK FIL A AND THE, YOU KNOW, CHIPOTLE AND ANY OTHER REALLY GOOD HOT TRENDING TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT HAS TO GO IN LINE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT HAS TO GO IN LINE WITH OUR 2040 VISION FOR TEXAS PARKWAY, AND IT HAS TO GO IN LINE WITH OUR VISION AS A WHOLE FOR THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ONE DOES NOT APPEAR TO FIT THAT PARTICULAR MODEL. SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HAVING MEETINGS WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, SO THAT WE CAN FIND A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE YOUR LAND THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE BUSINESS DEVELOPER AS WELL AS FOR THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT SUSTAIN YOUR BUSINESS. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEIR SUPPORT AND YOU DON'T HAVE THEIR DOLLARS, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A STRIP CENTER OR GAS STATION OR ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTED AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND SO I DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAY CONNECTED TO THE CITY, THE, THE STAFF MEMBERS, AND LISTEN TO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DETERRING YOU. THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP YOU FACILITATE A DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL EMBRACE AND APPRECIATE. AND SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER EMERY. YEAH. QUESTION I HAVE FOR THE DEVELOPER AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. THE SERVICE STATION AND CONVENIENCE CENTER THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE PROPOSING TO PUT IN THERE. I HAVE CONCERNS FROM STANDPOINT OF THE CITY HAS PUT A LOT OF DOLLARS AND EFFORT INTO IMPROVING THE CHARACTER OF TEXAS PARKWAY. AND ANOTHER GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE CENTER ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN EXISTING GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE CENTER, GIVES ME SOME PAUSE IN THAT. ARE WE GOING TO BE TAKING BUSINESS AWAY FROM THE EXISTING. SERVICE STATION AND CONVENIENCE CENTER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HAS SOME OF THE EARMARKS OF THAT THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO GO DOWN IN IN VALUE AND IN BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT TO THE LEVEL THAT WE WANT IT TO. SO I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, AND SOMEWHAT OF AN ISSUE IS TO PUTTING ANOTHER GAS STATION OVER THERE AND DETRACTING AND PULLING CUSTOMERS IN THE EXISTING SERVICE STATION AND CONVENIENCE CENTER THAT YOU HAD OVER TO THE NEW ONE. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THAT SUFFERS, WHAT HAPPENS TO, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE THE BUILDING AND THE FACILITY? SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN A. IMPROVEMENTS TO TEXAS PARKWAY AND MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THAT CAN BE PROUD OF. AND, AND IT HELPS AND AFFECTS THEIR NOT ONLY THEIR HOME VALUES, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES POTENTIAL FOR, FOR BUSINESS SITES GOING IN THERE. SO CAN YOU TELL ME, DID YOU DO ANY KIND OF MARKETING RESEARCH TO SEE? ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE AND I, I BELIEVE THAT PROPERTY THAT'S THERE IS, IS SOMETHING THAT EITHER YOU OR YOUR FAMILY OR. SURE. YEAH. SO TO, TO SPECIFICALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION ON THE COMPETITIVE SIDE OF IT, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WOULD BE THE ONE INHERITING THAT PROJECT MYSELF, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE FAMILY SCOPE. IT WOULD BE INSIDE OF THE FAMILY. SO IN ESSENCE, WE'RE NOT COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER. IT'S STILL MY BUSINESS ON BOTH SIDES. AND I WOULD NOT PUT SOMEBODY IN A POSITION TO WHERE I WOULD ALLOW THAT LAND TO GO BY AND OPEN UP ANOTHER GAS STATION AND BECOME MY OWN COMPETITOR. THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY IT WAS THIS PROJECT WAS PUT IN PLACE TO GO ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH THAT ALREADY, WITH THAT ALREADY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE THAT IN ESSENCE, THAT WHOLE BUSINESS, THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR THAT BOTH SIDES OF THAT AREA WOULD SIT WITHIN THE FAMILY'S OWNERSHIP. SO IT WOULD [02:25:04] NOT BE A REAL COMPETITIVE MATTER. AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GOING TO BE DETRACTING FROM THE THE BUSINESS LEVELS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CURRENT YOU'RE YOU'RE IN ESSENCE, YOU'RE REALLY YOU'RE IN ESSENCE, YOU'RE REALLY JUST GIVING THE COMMUNITY THE OPTIONS TO GO TO WHICH GAS STATION THEY WANT TO GO TO. FOR ME, IT WOULDN'T REALLY, BECAUSE BEING THAT I WOULD BE THE OWNER ON BOTH SIDES OF IT, IT WOULDN'T REALLY DIRECTLY IMPACT ME FROM AN OWNERSHIP PERSPECTIVE. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO BE LOOKING TO BASICALLY DO THAT VERSUS PUTTING IT OUT THERE, BECAUSE THERE WAS OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO DO GAS STATIONS. AND I WAS VERY SPECIFIC. I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO BECOME A COMPETITIVE MATTER FOR MYSELF TO WHERE I'M AT CURRENTLY. THAT'S WHY I JUST TOOK THAT PROJECT UPON MYSELF AND JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY. I KNOW THAT EARLIER WE MENTIONED ABOUT THE SUP WHEN WE GOT INTO THIS CONTRACT, OBVIOUSLY BEING THAT WE WERE OWNER OF THE OWNER OF THIS LAND FOR 20 YEARS, THAT WAS NEVER PUT IN PLACE AN ORDINANCE. AND I WAS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE. AND THEN ONCE IN AUGUST 4TH, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHEN IT CHANGED. THAT'S WHERE THIS WHOLE UNFORTUNATE MATTER DEVELOPED INTO A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION BETWEEN MYSELF, MY UNCLE, THE OWNER OF THE LAND, WHO OBVIOUSLY IS JUST CAUSING SOME CONFLICTS BETWEEN ME AND MY EXISTING PARTNER. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE RAN INTO THAT SITUATION. AND THAT'S WHY I'M HAVING TO GO TO THIS PROCESS OF MAKING SURE I'M SATISFYING. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. I WILL ABSOLUTELY BE OPEN TO OPPORTUNITIES, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WITHIN THE 20 YEARS I'VE BEEN INTO VARIOUS CONFERENCES IN LAS VEGAS, DIFFERENT REAL ESTATE CONFERENCES, TRYING TO GET OTHER DEVELOPERS TO COME OUT THERE TO SATISFY THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH TO WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T I'M NOT OPPOSED TO NOT WANTING TO. I DON'T WANT TO. IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A PUSHBACK, BUT IN REALITY, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO EXIT THIS LAND, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DEVELOP ON IT. AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT'S 20 YEARS INTO OUR FAMILY. AND MY FATHER'S AT AN AGE WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO MONETIZE THE NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THIS IS HIS TIME TO RETIRE. HE'S 75 YEARS OLD. I UNDERSTAND HIS CONCERN. THAT'S WHERE I CAME IN TO KIND OF DO THE GOOD FAITH ACT HERE. AND THIS IS THE NATURE OF BUSINESS THAT I KNOW. WE'VE EXERCISED OUR OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO COME IN, TAKE THE LAND OVER, DEVELOP WHAT SATISFIES THE CITY. THE SIZE ITSELF LIMITS IT. THEREFORE, I CAME INTO THIS AND SAID, I'LL TAKE IT OVER FARTHER. AND THAT'S WHY I WENT INTO IT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE NATURE OF BUSINESS THAT I'M ACCUSTOMED TO DOING. YEAH. AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT ACTION THAT YOU'RE TAKING. AGAIN, IT'S A SOMEWHAT OF A CONCERN ON MY PART THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE DETRACTING FROM THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE. AND ONCE YOU START LOSING CUSTOMERS, THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU START BEING CONCERNED ABOUT MAINTAINING THE BUILDINGS AND THE STRUCTURES AROUND IT. AND THE ONE THING WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS PUT SOMETHING OVER ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, AND IT DEGRADATES THE PROPERTY ACROSS, BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ON TEXAS PARKWAY. AND AGAIN, WE'RE SPENDING WE BEING THE CITY, SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY TO IMPROVE THE TEXAS PARKWAY CORRIDOR. SO TO ME, WHATEVER WE DO AND PUT THERE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO ADD TO THE VALUE OF BEING ON TEXAS PARKWAY. SO THANK YOU. AND IF I MAY, BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR DOWN THAT PATH, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION TO FURTHER DISCUSS THAT ITEM, WE CERTAINLY CAN. PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE, 51.071. NO, I'M FINE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER THAT HAS SIGNED UP, CHAIRMAN PEARSON. IRFAN, COME ON BACK UP. I THINK WE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION. YOU'RE PRETTY POPULAR. YEAH. TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF CITY ATTORNEY IS. TWO WORDS CATEGORY AND LIFT. PUT THAT ASIDE. THE BUSINESS THAT YOU CURRENTLY ARE OPERATING NOW YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PARTNERS. AM I CORRECT IN THE CURRENT BUSINESS. YES. MULTIPLE. NO, I HAVE TWO. JUST ME AND ANOTHER PARTNER. NOT THE PROPOSED BUT THE CURRENT. JUST ME AND A PARTNER. OKAY. 5050. OKAY. 5050. LET'S STICK WITH THE CATEGORY OF GAS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A LIFT IN BUSINESS FROM GAS STANDPOINT OF YOU, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE GIVING THEM ANOTHER OPTION. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU MADE THE STATEMENT YOURSELF. OTHERS HAVE COME TO YOU TO PUT A GAS STATION THERE AND YOU OPTED NOT TO ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT. IT IS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO HAVE A GAS STATION ACROSS FROM THE ONE THAT YOU CURRENTLY OWN, BECAUSE [02:30:01] YOU DON'T WANT COMPETITION, BUT WHAT YOU'RE OVERLOOKING IS THAT AREA IS ALREADY OVERSATURATED WITH THAT TYPE OF SERVICE, BUT IT'S TO YOUR ADVANTAGE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS ACROSS FROM YOURS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMPETING AGAINST IT. AND ALL YOU DO, YOU'LL DO. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, BUT I'M SPEAKING FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT OF VIEW. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A TREMENDOUS LIFT, OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO, AS COUNCILMEMBER EMERY SAID, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO PULL FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER SIDE. BUT YOU CAN ADJUST YOUR YOUR BUSINESS MODEL TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH OF THEM. EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GRAVITATE TO THE NEW BUSINESS. SURE. IT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE ANOTHER STATION THERE, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY OVERSATURATED. BECAUSE IF YOU WERE GENUINELY LOOKING OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AGAINST SOMEONE ELSE BUYING THAT PROPERTY AND PUTTING A GAS STATION THERE. BUT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD COMPETE AGAINST YOUR EXISTING BUSINESS. SO IT'S IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF SERVICE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THE COMPETITION. RESPECTFULLY SPEAKING, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOUR APPROACH. WITH THAT, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WHEN THEY DID COME TO ME FOR THAT VERY REASON, I WAS HOLDING IT FOR 20 YEARS. NOT FOR THAT REASON. OKAY. AND THEN WHEN I DID TRY, IN THE LIEU OF TRYING TO MARKET THAT PARTICULAR LOT, EVEN PRIOR TO THE CHANGE OF THE SUV AND THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S WHY FOR 20 YEARS, THERE WAS NOT A GAS STATION THERE. OKAY. THIS WAS BEFORE THE FACT THE ORDINANCE, I COULD HAVE BUILT THIS FIVE YEARS AGO, AND I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO GONE THROUGH THIS BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IT WAS A LOW C3. I COULD HAVE DONE IT. SO, BUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I WAS MARKETING AND BECAUSE OF SOME PERSONAL THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO OFFLOAD THIS LAND, WE HAVE MARKETED IT TO VARIOUS DIFFERENT POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS THAT ARE JUST NOT ABLE TO PICK UP THE SIZE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, TO WHERE IT'S BROUGHT ME BACK TO EVERY TIME IT'S BEEN A SQUARE ONE. THAT'S WHERE I FINALLY MADE THE PERSONAL DECISION TO TAKE THE LAND OVER FROM MY FATHER. OKAY, TO SAY, I CAN DO WHAT I CAN DO AS PERSONALLY FOR MY FATHER TO GET HIM EXITED AND ALSO COME IN AS A BUSINESS OWNER TO DO WHAT I KNOW BEST, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE LAND ITSELF. BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, I'M NOT IN THE FRANCHISE RESTAURANT BUSINESS. I'M IN RETAIL CENTERS. I CAN DO ANOTHER RETAIL CENTER THERE, BUT ALL YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IS JUST A BUNCH OF VACANCY, DOESN'T SERVE THE BENEFIT, DOESN'T SERVE ME ANY ADVANTAGE TO JUST HAVE A BUNCH OF REVOLVING DOORS, SMALL BUSINESSES COMING IN AND LEAVING, ETC. THEREFORE, I WENT WITH THIS APPROACH TO SAY, WHAT DO I KNOW BEST TO MAKE SURE I'M SUCCESSFUL? THAT CAN OBVIOUSLY ALLOW THE CURRENT COMMUNITIES TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY. I AGREE WITH YOU ONE TOO MANY. I RESPECT THAT THAT'S A FAIR ASSESSMENT. BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT CAN I DO TO MAXIMIZE AND MONETIZE ON SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR THAT MANY YEARS? SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF SOMEONE CAME TO YOU NOW THAT WANTED TO PUT ANOTHER STATION OVER THERE, I WOULD NOT I WOULD NOT SELL IT TO THEM BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT THAT TO BE A COMPETITIVE. THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S WHAT I'M STEPPING INTO THIS FIRE AND TAKING OVER IT FOR THAT REASON, BECAUSE THERE IS THAT'S. I'VE ACTUALLY MARKETED THIS LINE. I MEAN, I'M BEING VERY GENUINE, SAYING I'VE MARKETED THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THEREFORE THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR THAT MANY YEARS. NOT MANY DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING TO DO ANYTHING ALTERNATIVE TO THE SIZE, BECAUSE THE SIZE LIMITS THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. OKAY, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. THANK YOU. FAIR ENOUGH. THAT WRAPS UP YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. OKAY. YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE DEVELOPER WHO'S THINKING ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING THERE AND WILLING TO WORKING WITH OUR STAFF TO DO SOMETHING THAT OUR DISTRICT WANT. I REPRESENT DISTRICT B, AND I REALLY WANT TO FIGHT AND WORK WITH YOU TO GET SOMETHING THERE THAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS AND WHAT WE WANT THERE. SO I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH OUR STAFF, WORKING WITH US AND KNOWING THAT WE WANT SOMETHING PREMIER THERE, NOT JUST SOMETHING SIMPLE OR WHAT SOMETHING THAT MAY BENEFIT YOU FINANCIALLY, FINANCIALLY. SO THAT'S JUST THE COMMENT I WANT WANTED TO MAKE, AND I WANT MY DISTRICT TO KNOW MY COMMUNITY, THAT I'M THERE TO FIGHT WITH YOU AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANT THERE. AND MY OTHER OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH THIS WITH THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FIGHTING FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S IT. AND I'M HERE TO WORK WITH YOU. I GUESS A PERSON OF FEW WORDS. I GUESS WE WRAP THAT UP SO THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. [c. Public Hearing - To receive comments for or against a request by Chris...] THERE'S ITEM. SIX C, CAN WE GO TO THAT SCREEN? OH YEAH. ITEM SIX C IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO [02:35:07] RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST A REQUEST BY KRISTEN VESTAL. PROVIDENT PROVIDENT REALTY TO ZONE AN APPROXIMATE 24.31 ACRES TRACK OF LAND FROM LC THREE RETAIL DISTRICT TO LC TWO RETAIL DISTRICT AND R ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS TO ALLOW FOR FLEX OFFICE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE, AND TO THE EXTENT SUCH ZONING DEVIATES FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE AND CHARACTER MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROVIDE FOR AN AMENDMENT THERE FIRM, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM SIX. C CITY SECRETARY, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, MR. MAYOR, I DID. I RECEIVED THREE REQUESTS. OKAY. JOHN FLETCHER, MR. FLETCHER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU. HELLO, EVERYONE. HELLO. I JUST WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE THE ZONING COMMITTEE ON SIX C. MY MY CONCERN IS MY NAME IS JOHN FLETCHER. I LIVE IN 1910, WOODLAND HILLS DRIVE IN MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS. ZIP CODE IS 77489. AND I'D LIKE TO SAY HELLO TO EVERYONE HERE. I'M JUST ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN ALL OF OUR AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN A. BECAUSE WE'RE BECOMING AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, BASICALLY BECAUSE OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND I'M SEEING ALL OF THE BUILDINGS COME UP AS AN INDUSTRIAL. LIKE IT'S BECOMING AN INDUSTRIAL AREA AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH WITH THE WORK THAT'S DONE, BUT I HEARD A LOT OF THINGS SAID, LET'S PUT A PIN IN IT RIGHT NOW AND LET'S DO SOME OTHER THINGS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ON BUFFALO RUN RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE TAX BREAKS. THEY HAVE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS TO GET THEM THERE FOR, TO BE THERE. AND MY THING IS, I WANT TO SEE THEM GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AND IF I MAY, IF WE CAN PAUSE THE TIME FOR JUST A SECOND. THANK YOU. YOU'RE REQUIRED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY ON THE AGENDA. SO THIS ITEM IS SIX C THAT SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO A REZONING OF 24.31 ACRES OF LAND FROM LC3LC2R1 TO PD FOR FLEX OFFICE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THAT TRACT OF LAND THAT'S OFF OF 98. RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. I DID MENTION OTHER AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT, BUT I'M CONCERNED IF THOSE AREAS ARE GOING TO BE GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BE PUTTING IN ZONING AND YOU'LL BE PUTTING IN THINGS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE AREA THAT HAVE 501 C THREE PROGRAMS THAT WILL THAT THESE COMPANIES, WHEN THEY COME IN. CAN WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT MAYBE DONATING SOMETHING TO THE TO GIVE TO THE TO THE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA BECAUSE IT'S A TAX WRITE OFF AND THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR TAX WRITE OFFS. THEY ALWAYS WANT TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE OPEN FOR THINGS TO GO BACK. AND WHEN YOU BRING IN THESE GOING TO BE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS OR INDUSTRIAL SHOPS, BECAUSE I KNOW ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET OF 90 THERE ARE ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET, ARE WE GOING TO BE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRUCKS OR WHATEVER BE COMING IN THE AREA. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND WHAT I SEE HAPPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THIS SIDE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUSINESSES ARE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN THERE, LIKE YOU SAID, BUT THAT'S MY CONCERN. SO I'M NOT AGAINST IT. WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I'M CONCERNED THAT WANTING THEM TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THE AREA, BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING TO A BECOMING AN INDUSTRIAL TYPE DISTRICT INSTEAD OF A THE, THE PLAN THAT WE SAW, THE 2040 PLAN THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT, IS THAT GOING TO GO ALONG WITH OUR PLAN? BECAUSE I LIKE THAT PLAN, THE 2040 PLAN. I LIKE TO SEE THAT PLAN HAPPEN. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLAN DOES NOT AFFECT THAT PLAN GOING FORWARD. SO I JUST WANT TO SPEAK IN THAT IN THAT SENSE. SO I'M JUST LIKE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, THE, THE THERE'S GOING TO BE THERE, THE CHANGING OF THE STREETS. THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND ALL OF THAT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, CHRISTIAN VESTAL. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. HI, I'M KRISTIN VESTAL. WE'RE THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROPERTY HERE. THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME AT CITY COUNCIL. WE'VE BEEN TO PNC ONCE. I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION UP, BUT SO REAL QUICKLY WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A MULTIPLE ITEMS THAT PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HAS ASKED US TO IMPLEMENT A COUPLE OF THOSE THINGS BEING A LARGE MONUMENT SIGN THAT STATES MISSOURI CITY ACROSS IT. SO WHEN YOU'RE COMING INTO THE CITY, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SHOWING THAT THIS IS A GATEWAY INTO THE CITY. AND MAYBE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT [02:40:06] THINGS FOR THIS PRODUCT IS THE VISIBILITY OF THE BUILDING. IT'S GOING TO HAVE OFFICE ALL ACROSS THE FRONT. SO EVERYTHING YOU SEE ALONG HIGHWAY 90 IS GOING TO BE INSTITUTIONAL CLASS, A HIGH QUALITY ALL GLASS. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE RENDERING. AND, AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE AS YOU'RE DRIVING BY THE PRODUCT. AND THE SECOND THING THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND IS THE TENANTS, THE, OUR TENANT PROFILE, THE TYPE OF TENANT THAT WOULD BE GOING INTO THIS PRODUCT TYPE. I HAVE A, I HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I CAN PASS OUT HERE IN JUST A SECOND, BUT SOME OF THE TENANT PROFILES THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE TARGETING FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE PARADISE GRILLS. THEY HAVE A RETAIL COMPONENT TO IT. THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE, SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE RETAIL USERS COMING IN. THE SECOND ONE I HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF IS ARCTIC. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS STATES AT THE TOP RETAIL STORE. SO THIS IS THE TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT LOTS OF RETAIL USERS ARE GOING INTO AND STARTING TO UTILIZE. WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY ARE SERVICING CUSTOMERS THAT ARE CLOSE AROUND IN THE PROXIMITY. AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO USING IT AS A TO DISTRIBUTE THEIR PRODUCT TO OTHER STORES. SO I THINK UNDERSTANDING THE TENANT PROFILE IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU HEAR FLEX WAREHOUSE SPACE, YOU AUTOMATICALLY THINK, WELL, THIS IS ALL DISTRIBUTION, WHICH IS NOT TRUE. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE TENANT PROFILE BECAUSE THAT'S, I THINK, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS HERE. AND MAYBE THE THIRD MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS IS THE TAXABLE INCOME THAT THIS WOULD CREATE. THIS IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY TODAY. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE HAD MULTIPLE GROUPS COME THAT TRIED TO PRESENT THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT TYPE, AND YOU'RE LEAVING TAXABLE VALUE, TAXABLE INCOME VALUE JUST ON THE WAYSIDE. RIGHT NOW THIS PROPERTY IS BRINGING IN $25,000 OF TAXABLE INCOME EVERY YEAR. AT COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT, A MINIMUM, YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING $1 MILLION ANNUALLY. AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY PROPERTY, PERSONAL PROPERTY INSIDE OF IT, OR ANY INVENTORY TAX. THAT IS JUST THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN I THINK THE THIRD THING THAT'S IMPORTANT, THAT AS I'VE HEARD THIS IS THIS, THAT THE CITY WANTS RETAIL HERE PROVIDENT. WE ARE THE DEVELOPER OF THE GRID. WE OWN THE GRID, WE ARE DEVELOPING THE GRID. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD THAT THE CITY. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE INTERESTED IN. I'VE TALKED TO MY RETAIL PARTNER, AND THEY'VE MADE IT ADAMANTLY CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS WON'T BE RETAIL, BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF SITE RESTRICTIONS THAT PREVENT IT. IT'S NOT A LIGHTED INTERSECTION. YOU DON'T HAVE FEEDER ROADS. THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT PREVENT THIS FROM BEING RETAIL. AND AS BEING THE RETAIL DEVELOPER OF THE GRID, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS THIS IS A PRODUCT TYPE THAT WE DO PURSUE. AND THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IRENE BREADON. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS IRENE BREADON. I LIVE AT 910 BOLTON DRIVE, 7748. I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THE REQUEST TO REZONE THIS APPROXIMATE 24 ACRE AREA. IT'S NOT JUST A ZONING. IT'S A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT OF HOW THIS LAND WILL IMPACT THE FAMILIES WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE. YOU GUYS JUST HEARD THE DEVELOPERS. SHE'S TALKED ABOUT MONEY THE ENTIRE TIME. OKAY? WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NOT ONLY WHERE THE BACKYARD IS GOING TO BE AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, BUT WHERE THE ENTRANCE OF ADAMS AND BULL IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT SMALLER COMMUNITIES. OKAY. TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSED EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, I UNDERSTAND IT'S INTENDED TO BE A BUFFER PLACING THE STRUCTURE, BUT IT WILL BE ALONGSIDE THE BACKYARD OF OUR RESIDENCE. IT WILL CREATE A BOXED IN FEELING FOR THE HOMEOWNERS. IT AFFECTS SIGHTLINES, DRAINAGE, OVERALL PROPERTY, CHARACTER. FOR MANY HOMEOWNERS, THEIR BACKYARD IS THE PRIMARY OUTDOOR SPACE. ME, AS A HOMEOWNER, I MADE SURE THAT I PICKED THE FENCE THAT I WAS GOING TO BE STARING AT WHEN I WENT OUTSIDE. OUR NEIGHBORS DESERVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SECONDLY, THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY WE KEEP ON TALKING ABOUT HIGHWAY NINE, HIGHWAY 90. IT IS NOT ABOUT HIGHWAY 90. I MEAN, TECHNICALLY IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ACCIDENTS THERE TO BEGIN WITH. BUT IT IS ABOUT BULLYING. HOW NARROW IT IS. IT IS ABOUT ADAMS STREET. LIKE I MENTIONED, IT IS ONE WAY IN AND OUT FOR A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS. THE, YOU KNOW, THE ADDING THIS DEVELOPMENT SCALE, BUT JUST IN FACT, CHANGING THE ZONE, WHICH WOULD BRING IN [02:45:06] OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS SCALE, INCREASES VOLUME ON ROADS THAT WERE NOT DESIGNED FOR IT. AND THAT'S PERIOD IF YOU GO TO THAT ROAD, I KNOW EARLIER THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW CERTAIN ROADS. I MEAN, IT'S VERY SMALL. WE ARE BUS STOP AND WE CARS DON'T FIT. AND I DO WANT. THIRDLY, SORRY, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS, RIGHT? FLOODING RISKS, YOU KNOW, IS THE EXISTING DRAINAGE AND ROAD SYSTEMS EVEN EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THE EXTRA DEMAND? WHY WOULD WE INTENTIONALLY ADD MORE RISK TO OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? LET'S NOT FORGET OUR LESS THAN RELIABLE POWER GRID, BUT WE WON'T EVEN GET TO THAT. OH, OKAY. FINALLY. OKAY, THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. IT IS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY AND PROTECTING THE SAFETY AND STABILITY AND LIVABILITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE NOT AGAINST GROWTH. THIS JUST ISN'T IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OH, I'M SORRY, MR. MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS. ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP ON TO SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS BY ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MAYOR PRO TEM WILL JOT THOSE NAMES DOWN AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. THANK YOU. CAN MISS VESTAL PLEASE COME UP OR. I'M SORRY, HE HAD A PRESENTATION. OH YOU DID? YES, MAYOR. AND I KNOW THAT I'M HERE FOR A LONG TIME, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THIS IS MY LAST ONE. PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION FIRST AND THEN WE'LL CALL YOU. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSIONERS. I'LL BE GIVING YOU A LITTLE BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. AGAIN, IT'S A 24.31 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR A ZONING CHANGE. MOST OF THIS LAND IS CURRENTLY LC THREE. PART OF IT IS LC TWO AND R1, AND THE. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE IT FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR FLEX OFFICE OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE. AGAIN, JUST TO RECAP QUICKLY, THE 2040 VISION LAID OUT BY THIS COUNCIL IS TO. COMMUNITY IDENTITY AND THE QUALITY OF PLACE, SMART GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC STRENGTH AND TAX BASE HOUSING AND LIVABILITY. SO AGAIN, THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING. NO ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN HERE. I MUST SAY THAT THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING. THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING, THIS BODY ADOPTED TO HAVE JOINT PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO IT'S COMING BACK AGAIN IN FRONT OF PNC BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT IT'S COMING FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH COUNCIL. BUT PNC WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR PLANNING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ON THE MAY 13TH. AND IT'S TENTATIVELY PLACED ON THE JUNE 15TH CITY COUNCIL AGENDA WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. IT'S JUST SOUTH OF 90 NORTH OF THE BOLTON ESTATES RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE WEST. THE ROADWAY THAT YOU SEE IS BULL LANE. TO THE SOUTH IS ADAMS STREET, AND TO THE RIGHT IS DREAMCOAT. AS I MENTIONED, A LARGE CHUNK OF IT IS LC THREE, BUT A SMALL PORTION OF IT IS RESIDENTIAL AND LC TWO AS WELL. AND THE REQUESTED ZONING IS FOR A PD AS THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED. IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING, TWO BUILDINGS. THE ONE IN THE FRONT OR NORTH SOUTH IS 140,000FT■!S. THE BUILDING TO THE REAR IS 190 500 ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED IS THE AREA KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IN WHITE. IF YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREENS, THEY WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OR THEY'RE PROPOSING TO USE THAT AS A FLEX OFFICE. BUT MAJORITY OF IT IS PROPOSED TO BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. A PUBLIC NOTICE WAS POSTED AND MAILED. YOU'RE. THE BLUE AREA HIGHLIGHTS THE THE THE. THE AREAS WHERE THE PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT. STAFF HAS RECEIVED 16 WRITTEN PROTEST SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HEARD IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S. THE CONCERNS ARE ABOUT INDUSTRIAL USE NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL USE, TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE. THESE ARE KIND OF THE GENERIC NATURE OF THE PROTEST THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, DAVID, HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS THE PERSPECTIVES ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND LAND USE. THE APPLICANT DID SPEAK AT THE OR A REPRESENTATIVE SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. THEY HAVE, I MUST SAY, INSISTED THAT THEY DO A PRESENTATION TO THIS BODY AND GIVEN US A PRESENTATION. IT IS HERE IF THE BODY CHOOSES FOR THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THEIR CONCEPT. STAFF HAS NOT [02:50:05] HAD THE ABILITY TO VET THAT PRESENTATION OR IT'S NOT OUR RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING. WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AGAIN. SAME THING FOR I'M GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WHEN THIS GOES BACK TO PNC. I THINK THAT'S WHERE PRESENTATIONS COULD BE SHOWN. AND THEN WHEN IT OBVIOUSLY WILL COME BACK TO US AND THEN WE'LL SEE THE PRESENTATION AGAIN. I THINK SINCE I HEARD YOU SAID THAT THIS CAME BEFORE PNC ALREADY. SO THIS IS JUST A REAL JOINT JOINT SESSION, RIGHT? THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PNC MEETING. SUBSEQUENTLY, THIS BODY ADOPTED A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE THOUGHT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH BODIES TO COME TOGETHER AND ALIGN. SO I THINK THEY'RE HEARING IT FOR THE SECOND TIME PROBABLY, BUT THE COUNSELING IS HEARING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME. GOT IT. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO COUNCILMEMBER O'DEKIRK. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. IF YOU. WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SHASHI. DID DID ANYONE ELSE. I DON'T KNOW NO. I MEAN, YOUR FLOOR IS YOURS. OKAY. SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO YOU MIND COMING BACK UP? SO I'M I'M NOT SURE WHAT DISCUSSIONS YOU'VE HAD WITH WITH CITY STAFF, BUT WE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS BEHIND THE SCENES WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, NOT NECESSARILY YOUR PROJECT. AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER THAT WAS TRYING TO BUILD ON THIS PROPERTY, SAME THING. OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT THIS TYPE OF WAREHOUSE BUILDING. THEY ABSOLUTELY JUST DO NOT WANT IT. AND THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, A NICE LARGE TRACT OF LAND THAT HAS POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND SO YOU'RE BRINGING, YOU KNOW, THE, THESE CONCEPTS, IT'S JUST. THESE ARE GLORIFIED WAREHOUSES. AND THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE'VE TOLD OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO TO THEM. AND I JUST HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, ARE BRINGING THIS BOXY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT CUTE. IT IS NOT PRETTY. THIS IS NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR SURROUNDING THEIR HOMES IN THIS COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST NOT. I HAVE TREMENDOUS FRUSTRATION RIGHT NOW. IF YOU'VE MET WITH OUR CITY STAFF AND THEY HAVE NOT TOLD YOU THAT THIS IS NOT COOL, I HAVE A PROBLEM. SO EITHER YOU'VE BEEN TOLD THAT OUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, OR WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH OUR CITY STAFF. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE, BUT. I'M I'M THAT'S IT. SORRY. I RECOGNIZE THE MAYOR PRO TEM KLAUSER. YES. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. WAS THERE A QUESTION FOR ME? NO. I'M SORRY. NO, THERE'S NO QUESTION. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION WOULD PROBABLY BE TO YOU. JENNIFER, WERE THERE ANY LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT? I KNOW WE HAD 16 WRITTEN PROTESTS, BUT WERE THERE ANY LETTERS OF SUPPORT AFTER THE MAIL OUT? NO LETTERS OF SUPPORT. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. MY SECOND QUESTION IS THIS WAS PRESENTED BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING BEFORE. AND THEN IT'S COME BACK TO US. DID DID ANYTHING CHANGE IN ANY OF YOUR RENDERINGS BETWEEN THE TIME YOU PRESENTED TO TO TODAY? YES, MA'AM. AND IF YOU GO TO THE PRESENTATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. YES. IF YOU GO TO IT, IT'LL BE THE THE FOURTH PAGE. IT'S GOT OUR PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH IMPLEMENTS THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT THAT PNC MEETING. AND THEN ALSO AFTER THAT MEETING, DISCUSSED WITH YOUR STAFF. ONE, THE THE FIRST ONE BEING THE MONUMENT SIGN. SO THEY WANTED TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT SAYS, HEY, THIS IS KIND OF THE GATEWAY TO MISSOURI CITY. THIS IS SHOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANTS, RIGHT? WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS FOR THEM. WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED A 150 FOOT SETBACKS FROM THE RESIDENTIAL ALONG, I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THE STREET. ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY HERE. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S BOTH SIDES, THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN I GUESS THIS IS WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. WE IMPLEMENTED 150 FOOT BUILDING SETBACKS. SO TO FURTHER INCREASE AND GET THE [02:55:02] BUILDINGS AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL, THE THERE'S ALSO A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT GOES AROUND THE PROPERTY. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ADDED THE THE MASONRY WALL, THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL. OKAY, OKAY I SEE. OKAY. THANK YOU. IN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WAS IMPLEMENTED AS WELL. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. I'D LIKE TO BRING UP OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DAVID. YES, MA'AM. SO, DAVID, AFTER YOU HAVE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER, YOU'VE TALKED WITH THE DEVELOPER. YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY MAYBE YOU'VE ENGAGED WITH PNC, GIVEN YOUR EXPERTISE AS TO THE CHARACTER OF THAT AREA AND THIS PROJECT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE AS OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS WE MOVE TOWARDS THE 2040 VISION. YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. WE GET IT. THIS IS THE KIND OF MARKET PRESSURE WE EXPECTED AS WE BUILT OUT. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A 24 ACRE TRACT. WE'VE DEMONSTRATED IN THE HOUSTON METRO AREA THAT WE CAN DELIVER THIS KIND OF PRODUCT IN A VERY NICE WAY. FOR MANY USERS, THE CHALLENGE IS THIS IS THE WRONG SCALE. THIS IS THE SCALE THAT'S ADJACENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND CREATES A PROBLEM. UNFORTUNATELY, THE DEVELOPER THAT'S BRINGING THE PROJECT FORWARD, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. THIS IS THE PRODUCT THAT THEY BRING TO THE MARKET. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL IN THIS AREA, BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THOSE LAST AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A COLLECTION OF PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE PUT TOGETHER TO DO SOMETHING MUCH MORE EXCITING. I CAME TO IT AT THE END. AND SO WE'VE I'VE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER, I UNDERSTOOD WHERE THEY WERE AT, I GET IT, THAT IS WHERE THE MARKET WANTS TO GO. THE PROBLEM IS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AT THIS TIME. SO IN YOUR OPINION, BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE, WHAT WOULD YOU PUT HERE IF YOU HAD YOUR WAY? I BELIEVE THIS THIS SITE WANTS TO BE A DESTINATION IN AND OF ITSELF THAT PROBABLY INVOLVES AN AMOUNT OF RETAIL, SOMETHING THAT WORKS WITH THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND PROVIDES A TRANSITION INTO THE INDUSTRIAL AREA. FRANKLY, THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THAT IS. DO WE DO WE HAVE THOSE KINDS OF DEVELOPERS LOOKING AT SITES AND OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY? NOT YET. THAT IS ON MY TO DO LIST. OKAY, SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS GOING TO BE FOR OUR DEVELOPER, GIVEN, GIVEN, GIVEN WHAT OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT JUST STATED. YEAH, SURE. WE DON'T BITE GIVEN WHAT HE JUST SAID. DID YOU HEAR WHAT HE SAID? I THINK SO, OKAY, LET'S AND I'M JUST ONE VOTE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MY. ONCE THIS COMES TO US FOR VOTES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT P AND Z IS GOING TO SAY. I'M ONLY IN CONTROL OF MY VOTE. LET'S SAY THAT THIS DOES NOT PASS. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO LISTEN, SIT DOWN AND LISTEN AND TALK TO OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT WILL WORK IN THIS SPACE, SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE? SO DAVID AND I DID DISCUSS THAT, AND I AND I MADE IT CLEAR TO HIM THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS WITHIN OUR FIRM. WE DO ALL ASSET CLASSES. SO WE ARE NOT JUST INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS. WE ARE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER. WE HAVE A MULTIFAMILY PLATFORM. WE HAVE WE DEVELOPED THE STAR DOWNTOWN. WE TOOK TEXACO TOWER AND TURNED IT INTO A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WE DO RV PARKS. WE DO, WE DID THE WE DO RETAIL, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WHICH I WAS TALKING VERY QUICKLY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS COULD HEAR ME, BUT THE GRID THAT IS OUR DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, SO WE DO ALL ASSET CLASSES. I'VE TALKED TO OUR PARTNERS INTERNALLY. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT FEASIBLE HERE FOR A LOT OF REASONS, WHICH I DID STATE EARLIER. I'M HAPPY TO WALK YOU GUYS THROUGH IT. AGAIN, THIS USE IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND PROBABLY WILL BE FOR A LONG TIME. I KNOW THAT THAT THAT'S MY OPINION, RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT IS ACHIEVABLE TODAY, MAYBE TEN YEARS FROM NOW. THAT CHANGES. I'VE TALKED TO MY I KNOW I'M IN THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD, RIGHT? I HAVE LOTS OF FRIENDS THAT DO OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS. I'VE TALKED TO ALL OF MY FRIENDS THAT DO RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS, THE ONES THAT DO THE HEAVY DEVELOPMENTS. I MEAN, PROVIDENT INTERNALLY, WE'VE DEVELOPED A TON OF WALMARTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IT'S NOT FEASIBLE HERE FOR A TON OF REASONS. AND A LOT OF IT IS SITE CONSTRAINTS. IT'S THE ACCESS. THERE'S NO LIGHT AT INTERSECTION. THERE'S NO FEEDER ROADS HERE. IT REALLY LIKE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE TODAY IS THE PRODUCT THAT I'M PRESENTING. OKAY. AND THAT'S YOUR OPINION. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON, CAN YOU COME BACK, PLEASE? NO, NOT DAVID, THE DEVELOPER. HI. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST HAVE A FEW [03:00:06] QUESTIONS BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THIS, THEY'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT SOME OF THESE USES ARE FOR YOU SAID FLEX OFFICES. WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS COULD BE, EXPLAIN WHAT A FLEX OFFICE IS. YEAH. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FRONT OF THIS BUILDING HERE, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST, WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE? OH, STOP ME. THERE YOU GO. OKAY, OKAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS BUILDING HERE, THIS IS THIS IS THE, WHAT WE CALL A REAR LOAD BUILDING THAT WOULD BE FACING HIGHWAY 90. THIS IS THE PRODUCT THAT YOU WILL SEE COMING UP AND DOWN HIGHWAY 90. WHEN YOU SAY FLEX, WHAT THAT MEANS IS ALL ACROSS THE FRONT OF THIS BUILDING IS OFFICE. SO ALL OF THIS IS OFFICE SPACE. IT'S GOING TO BE HIGH END CLASS A OFFICE SPACE. WHAT'S IN THE BACK OF IT IS GOING TO BE A SMALL WAREHOUSE COMPONENT. THAT WAREHOUSE COMPONENT IS THERE TO SERVICE WHATEVER THAT OFFICE IS DOING, WHATEVER THEIR BUSINESS IS. AND IN HERE, I PUT THE TENANT PROFILE SO YOU CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF IF IT'S ARCTIC OR IT'S PARADISE GRILLS, TYPICALLY IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING OR THE TRAMPOLINE PARKS. A LOT OF TIMES THE TRAMPOLINE PARKS, ALMOST ALL OF THEM EXCLUSIVELY. NOW THEY'RE GOING INTO THIS PRODUCT TYPE BECAUSE THEY NEED LARGE AREAS, THEY NEED HIGH CEILINGS, OR WHERE ELSE ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT? YOU CAN'T GET THAT IN A TRADITIONAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. CORRECT. SO YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT. SO WHEN WE SAY FLEX, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THERE'S A LARGE OFFICE COMPONENT WITH A WITH A WAREHOUSE COMPONENT. SO IT'S LIKE THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE IS RIGHT THERE WITH THEIR ACTUAL BUSINESS. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THERE'S TYPICALLY SOME RETAIL COMPONENT TO IT. THEY HAVE OFFICE. THEY'RE PROBABLY SELLING SOME PRODUCT FROM THE OFFICE PORTION, AND THEN THEY ARE WAREHOUSING THE PRODUCT IN THE BACK. OKAY. SO I HAVE ANOTHER FEW MORE QUESTIONS. I MEAN, WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THIS, I WAS LIKE, THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF DOCS. AND I JUST SAW WAREHOUSES. I'M LIKE, WE DON'T WANT NO MORE ANY MORE OF THAT IN OUR AREA. SO I WAS REALLY DIDN'T WASN'T ATTRACTIVE TO ME AT ALL. AND ALSO I SAW A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR CAR RENTAL CAR SPACES. IT SAID PLACES WHERE CARS CAN PARK IS THIS FOR LIKE CUSTOMER PARKING OR A CAR RENTAL PLACE? I WOULD JUST WANT ALL OF THE PARKING ON HERE WOULD SERVICE WHOEVER THE TENANT IS IN THE IN THE PROPERTY. SO IT'S GOING TO EITHER BE THEIR EMPLOYEES OR IT'S GOING TO BE A RETAIL, A RETAIL BUYER, A CUSTOMER THAT'S COMING TO PICK UP SOME PRODUCT. I SEE, I SEE IT OPENING UP FOR SOMEBODY TO RENT A SPACE AND OPEN UP A CAR RENTAL PLACE. AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WHAT WE WANT. NO, NO. OKAY. I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE INSTITUTIONAL PRODUCT. THIS IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST END OF TYPE OF TENANTS THAT WE CAN OBTAIN. I MEAN, THIS TYPE OF TENANT HAS TO BE ABLE TO PAY A PREMIUM FOR A SPACE LIKE THIS. YEAH, YOU CAN TELL US THAT. BUT THEN SNEAKERS IN THERE, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU SAY THOSE THINGS AND I BELIEVE YOU BELIEVE THAT, BUT THEN SOMETIMES IT CAN COME ALONG. YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY THERE AND SAY IT'S EMPTY AND YOU TAKE WHOEVER COMES ALONG. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE GET ALL MY UNDERSTANDING OUT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING THAT WILL BE THERE. AND I JUST SEE IT AS A BASICALLY JUST A WAREHOUSE AND IN AND OUT IN A VERY GOOD SPOT. AND IS THAT MY LAST? AND YOU KEEP SAYING, AGREED. MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST ME NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU MEAN BY GRID. SO WHAT DO YOU CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY A TYPE OF GRID THAT YOU BUILD OUT? DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUILDINGS YOU BUILD OUT OR SORRY, YOU SAID A GRID, MAYBE I THE GRID. THE GRID. YEAH. SO THE GRID IS A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN STAFFORD AND IT'S GOT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT USES THERE. BUT THERE IS A BUNCH OF RETAIL AND THEN THERE'S SOME MULTIFAMILY AS A PART OF IT. IT WAS AN OLD CAMPUS THAT WE TURNED, THAT WE REDEVELOPED INTO MOSTLY RETAIL. SO IT'S RETAIL. IS IT ANYTHING LIKE RETAIL AT THE BOTTOM AND LIVING ON THE TOP? NO, NO, NO. THERE IS AN IN AND OUT BURGER THERE. THERE'S A STARBUCKS THERE. IT'S TRUE. TRADITIONAL RETAIL RESTAURANTS. SO THESE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT YOUR COMPANY DOES ON A REGULAR BASIS. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY. IF WHENEVER YOU DO WORK WITH DAVID AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE, I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT OTHER IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORRY. THE GRID, THE GRID. SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS. OKAY. GRID. THAT'S THAT'S WHY I ASKED. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER RILEY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I REALLY JUST HAVE SOME COMMENTS. AND I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU. OH, YOU'RE STILL THERE. OH, OKAY. I WAS LOOKING DOWN, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TO US AND BRINGING BACK THE THE MONUMENTAL SIGN. IT THE THE SIGN IS NICE, BUT HERE'S, HERE'S THE ISSUE. ABOUT 35, 40 YEARS AGO, THEY HAD WHAT'S CALLED TANK CITY OVER THERE. AND IT WAS A THRIVING LITTLE RETAIL CENTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I GREW UP HERE. SO I REMEMBER ALL OF THAT. AND THEN OF COURSE IT WENT DOWN, YOU KNOW, FOR VARIOUS REASONS. AND SO HERE WE ARE IN THIS NEW GENERATION, WE HAVE ALL NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, ALL NEW STAFF. WE HAVE THE SAME RESIDENTS IN MOST CASES. AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THAT [03:05:01] COMMUNITY OVER THERE OFF OF 90, IT HAS BECOME A WAREHOUSE LOCATION. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND EVEN WITH OUR PNC, WHEN THESE TYPE OF SUPS COME UP, WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT DOES 20 YEARS FROM NOW LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THE THE CHARACTER OF THESE COMMUNITIES, WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE STABILITY OF CITY OF MISSOURI CITY? AND SINCE THAT'S MY DISTRICT, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY CALLS I'VE HAD SCREAMING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS ABOUT SO MUCH WAREHOUSING AND WAREHOUSES BEING BUILT AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND OF COURSE, A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THESE PROPERTIES WERE ZONED FOR WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOMES, WHEN THEY MADE THEIR MAJOR RESIDENTIAL INVESTMENT. AND SO OUR JOB HERE IS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS AND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TO COME. AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM A LOT OF THESE RESIDENTS, I DRIVE THERE AND I SEE ALL OF THOSE BOX WAREHOUSES, AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT I CAN SHOP OVER THERE. I DON'T SPEND MY MONEY OVER THERE. THE PEOPLE THERE DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY. AND IT'S IT'S A HUGE THOROUGHFARE OF JUST TRAFFIC AND THEN BOXES. I CAN'T WRAP MY MIND AROUND WHY YOU WOULDN'T CONSIDER A GRID THE GRID OVER THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE ARE LOOKING, THAT I'M LOOKING FOR ON 90. AND THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS SAT WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM, OUR PLANNING TEAM, OUR STAFF MEMBERS, AND THEY SHARED WITH YOU THE VISION OF WHAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR AND RESIDENTS HAVE SHARED. I HAVE A STACK OF PROTEST LETTERS HERE, NOT TO MENTION ALL OF THE PHONE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES AND PERSONAL EMAILS THAT I'VE RECEIVED QUESTIONING ME ABOUT THIS AND THE HEARTBREAK THAT I HEAR WITH THEIR STORIES. AND THIS IS A CONSTANT THING. THEY DON'T WANT ANY MORE BOXED CONCRETE BEHIND THEIR HOMES. ON 90. I HEAR THIS FROM STAFF AND RESIDENTS AS WELL. WHAT ARE Y'ALL GOING TO DO FOR THAT LAND OVER THERE? HOW COME Y'ALL CAN'T DO SOMETHING LIKE THE GRID? HOW COME YOU CAN'T BUILD THIS ENTERTAINMENT LOCATION WHERE FAMILIES CAN GO AND SPEND THEIR MONEY? AND ALTHOUGH THE FRONT SIDE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS NICE AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL, IT LOOKS TASTEFUL. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO KNOW, IS THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE WAREHOUSES. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE CALLING FOR. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE. I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN HERE THROUGH TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO YOU'VE KIND OF HEARD, AND I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT ALL THAT, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ATTRACTIVE THAT IS NOT JUST GOING TO MAKE THESE RESIDENTS WANT TO LIVE HERE AND SPEND THEIR MONEY, BUT THAT'S GOING TO ATTRACT OTHER PEOPLE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY IN THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY. THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THEM WANT TO LIVE, PURCHASE HOMES OR LIVE IN APARTMENTS IN THE CITY OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO INVEST IN THIS CITY. AND THIS DOES NOT DO THAT BECAUSE ONCE YOU GUYS BUILD IT IN THIS CAPACITY, ONLY BENEFIT IT WILL BE WILL BE TO YOU GUYS IN YOUR PROFIT BASE VERSUS WE'LL GET SOME, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, SOME VALUE OUT OF THAT, SOME REVENUE, BUT WE'LL LOSE OUR PROPERTY, OUR WE'LL LOSE OUR RESIDENTS, WE'LL LOSE THEIR INTERESTS. AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY, REALLY, THEY MATTER SO MUCH TO OUR COMMUNITY. THE BUSINESSES ARE GREAT AND WE NEED THOSE TOO. BUT I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE YOU TO GO BACK BECAUSE I CAN'T IN GOOD FAITH. YOU KNOW, JUST SAY YAY TO THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M LOOKING FOR FOR HIGHWAY 90, I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ATTRACTIVE, SOMETHING THAT IS POPPING, SOMETHING THAT IS INNOVATIVE AND SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE SAY, WOW, ABOUT MISSOURI CITY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS IT. THIS ISN'T IT. AND MAYBE WITH ALL OF YOUR CONNECTIONS AND RESOURCES AND PARTNERSHIPS, YOU CAN LOOK INTO YOUR, YOUR WAR CHEST OF DEVELOPERS AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO TO MAKE A PROJECT LIKE THIS ATTRACTIVE TO THIS CITY THAT WILL MAKE US STAND AND SAY YES TO IT, AND WORK WITH OUR STAFF. OUR STAFF KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO WASTE YOUR TIME, YOUR MONEY, OR YOUR RESOURCES. LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET YOU GUYS TO BECAUSE WE WANT YOUR BUSINESS, BUT WE WANT IT THE RIGHT WAY THAT SUITS OUR CITY VISION. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD JUST ASK [03:10:06] YOU TO LOOK AT THAT. IF YOU HAD A CONCEPT LIKE THE GRID, I'M IN THE GRID LITERALLY LIKE FOUR TIMES A WEEK, SO I KNOW IT'LL WORK. SOMETHING LIKE THAT OVER THERE. BRING US SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY YES TO, THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN SAY YES TO. BECAUSE THIS I CAN'T SAY YES TO THIS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT, PLEASE. WELL I DID NO, NO, I HAVE OH I'M UP AND THEN I'M SORRY TO KEEP GETTING UP. NO NO NO THAT'S OKAY. I AIN'T GOING TO BE THAT LONG. OKAY. SO SHASHI, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS TO YOU IS IF THIS GONE BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND HAD A PUBLIC MEETING, THE PUBLIC HEARING SIMILAR TO THIS ONE, THIS DISCUSSION. OKAY, WHY IS IT BACK HERE AGAIN? WELL, ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THEY'LL GO BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING. WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? OR OPEN OPEN MEETING, RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND THEN I'LL COME BACK. LET ME CLARIFY THAT, MAYOR, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A PUBLIC HEARING IN FRONT OF PNC, A PUBLIC HEARING IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. BUT JUST LAST CYCLE, WE CHANGED THE PROCESS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JOINT PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO THIS IS NOT AN EXTRA HEARING. IT'S JUST THAT YOU HAVE PNC MEMBERS SITTING ALONG WITH COUNCIL. SURE. THAT'S OKAY. HOW MANY PROTEST LETTERS CAME FOR THIS? 16. WAS THERE A WAS THERE ANY ANY SUPPORT LETTERS? I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY SUPPORT LETTERS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. NO, NO, IT WAS TOO LONG AGO. WELL YEAH. THERE'S NO NO. OKAY. WHAT IS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? WELL, I THINK IN THE VISION THIS THIS COUNCIL HAS THE 2040 VISION. AND THIS IS A SIZABLE TRACT OF LAND. IF YOU HEARD FROM THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, A LAND OF THIS SIZE, 28 ACRES PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES. AND WE HEARD THE NAME GRIT. WE PROBABLY WANT A GRID NUMBER TWO HERE ON THIS TRACT OF LAND. I THINK DAVID IS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OFFICE SPACE WITH SOME RETAIL IS WHAT THE VISION OF THIS COUNCIL IS. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE ALIGNING TOWARDS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT. DID THIS GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING? I MEAN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THEIR PLANNING. INITIAL PLANNING? YES. OKAY. DO WE TELL THEM THAT WE HAD SOMEONE ELSE THAT CAME BEFORE THEM AND THEY SAID NO. YES WE DID. YES. AND WHAT DID THEY SAY? I THINK THEY WANTED TO THEY DID THEIR MARKET FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS, AND THEY WANTED TO PRESENT THEIR CASE IN FRONT OF PLANNING AND ZONING. AND CITY COUNCIL STAFF HAS GIVEN A VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATION THAT WAREHOUSE INDUSTRIAL IS NOT THE PREFERRED USE HERE. OKAY. SO WE TOLD THEM WHAT WHAT THAT CAME BEFORE PRETTY MUCH WAS THE SAME THING, RIGHT? AND THEN CAME BACK OVER HERE WITH THIS. RIGHT. AND THEN WHY ARE WE KEEP SAYING THE GRID? WHO WHERE DID WE GET THAT FROM? WELL, I JUST HEARD IT HERE TOO. WHAT IS IT? DID Y'ALL HEAR IT AT THE PLANNING? THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE I THINK I KNOW WHAT'S IN THE GRID. FACILITY. IT'S. YEAH. IT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OH YEAH. ALRIGHT. SO IS THE OWNER HERE IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HERE. WELL I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED FOR THE DEVELOPER. WHAT PROJECTS HAVE YOU DONE. AND THEY MENTIONED THE GRID. THAT'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HERE IS CAN CAN HE STEP UP. CAN SHE DO THIS. THERE HE IS. OH IS THERE. LET ME ALSO RECOGNIZE HE'S OUR FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER OF SUGARLAND. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. HOW ARE YOU, TOM? HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND PNC COMMISSIONERS. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES. IT'S NOT EASY. I WENT THROUGH THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS IN SUGARLAND. I KNOW WHAT YOU FEEL. I FEEL MYSELF TOO. I'M HERE AS A PROPERTY OWNER. AND ALSO I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU ALL MY CREDENTIALS, BUT I AM A SMALL BUSINESSMAN, A BACKBONE OF A COMMUNITY IS SMALL BUSINESS. WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT OVER THERE AND ALL, BUT AT THE END, WE NEED A PARTNER WHO WANTS TO INVEST MONEY AND DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY. OUR FAMILY OWNED THAT PROPERTY OVER 22 YEARS AND BEFORE THAT, YOU ALL KNOW THOSE WHO LIVE THERE. THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS HOMES IN BERLIN, BEEN THERE BEFORE THAT, THAT HOUSES BEEN BUILT BEFORE THAT. AND THAT TIME THIS WAS AN INDUSTRIAL PLACE. SANDBLASTING AND OIL REFINERIES, HEAVY EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE PLACE. SINCE WE BOUGHT, WE CLEANED UP ALL MESS OVER THERE AND WE MADE IT INTO A RETAIL. [03:15:06] ONE OF MY BUSINESS. I STARTED THERE TOO. I GROWN FROM THERE, BUT THE MOST OF THE RETAILS. WE OWNED A LOT OF SHOPPING CENTERS YOU HAD BEFORE. THE PREVIOUS GUY SAID, RETAIL IS VERY SLOWING DOWN ALL OVER UNITED STATES BECAUSE ALL THE BIG AMAZON AND BIG COMPANIES COMING AND TAKING OVER HOME DELIVERY. WE FEEL A LOT OF VACANT SPACES IN ALL OVER, EVEN HOUSTON AND ALSO IN STAFFORD. SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NOW. OUR FAMILY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ASSET TO RIGHT NOW DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY. SO WE TALKED ABOUT MANY OF THEM. AND I FOUND THIS ONE, THIS COMPANY, PROVIDENCE IS ONE OF THE BEST. ONE, THEY HAVE ONE OF THE BEST TRACK RECORD. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING ONE OF THE STATE OF THE ART FACILITIES IN OUR BACKYARD, BECAUSE THAT AREA NOW YOU CAN SEE IS NOT LOOKING GOOD. AND WE WORK HARD AND BOUGHT THE SECOND MILES OVER THERE AND WE BUILD FOR THEM. AND THAT IS THE ONLY THING THERE, NOTHING ELSE. IF YOU LOOK AT IT FURTHER DOWN ALL THE WAY TO BELTWAY EIGHT IS WAREHOUSES. BUT THESE FOLKS, THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO MIX DEVELOPMENT KIND OF OFFICES AND SOME LIGHT WAREHOUSES AND ALL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE BEAUTIFY THAT PLACE. AND I RECOMMEND AS A SMALL BUSINESSMAN, IT IS GOOD FOR OUR FUTURE. OTHERWISE IT WON'T HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME. I'M TELLING YOU, LAST 22 YEARS, NOTHING HAPPENED THERE. NOBODY EVEN CITY DIDN'T COME AND HELP US ANYTHING OVER THERE EITHER. NONE OF THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS OR MAYOR. SO IT IS BETTER. MY RECOMMENDATION IS AS A PROPERTY OWNER, IF THE COUNCIL LOOK INTO VERY SERIOUSLY THIS. THERE IS NO BAD ISSUE OVER THERE. I KNOW THAT I AM STILL A GUBERNATORIAL APPOINTEE. I AND I'M ADVISOR TO THE STATE OF TEXAS. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED VERY MUCH INTO COMMUNITY TML. YOU KNOW THAT AGGIES ALL OVER, BUT SMALL BUSINESS. THIS KIND OF OPPORTUNITY COMES IN. WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. OTHERWISE WHO ELSE IS COMING IN THERE NOW THEY SAID WE CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. DO AMUSEMENT PARK. WHO IS GOING TO DO IT? NOBODY CAME IN LAST 22 YEARS TO MY PLACE. NOBODY TALKED TO OUR FAMILY. HEY, WE WANT TO PUT AMUSEMENT PARK OR WE WANT TO DO THIS. NOBODY CAME IN AND THEY CAME IN. I THOUGHT, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU. NO, TOM. WAIT THERE. I GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YES, SIR. DID YOU WHILE YOU WERE SITTING BACK THERE, DID YOU HEAR THAT? I ASKED THE QUESTION OF PROTEST LETTERS. I'M SORRY. DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED? HOW MANY PROTEST LETTERS THEY WERE THERE? NO. OKAY. HOW MANY PROTEST LETTERS? 16, MAYOR, FROM WHAT I SEE HERE AND HOW MANY SUPPORT LETTERS, WHAT I KNOW IS NONE. NONE. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE 16 TO 0, BROTHER. CAN I REPLY TO THAT? IF YOU LOOK AT IT, HOW MANY HOUSES THERE MAY BE? NOT EVEN 16 HOUSES. BERLIN. OKAY. BUT THE BUT SO IF THERE'S ONLY 16 HOUSES, THAT MEANS ALL 16 OF THEM GAVE, YOU KNOW. RIGHT. I MEAN, I DON'T RIGHT. I MEAN, I CANNOT TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL. DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU GO. IF YOU GO, LET ME LET ME GET INTO THIS SERIOUS STUFF OF THIS BECAUSE I'M TIRED NOW TOO. RIGHT. IT'S BEEN WE'VE BEEN GOING AT THIS FOR A WHILE. SO P AND Z, YOUR P AND Z, YOU WENT OVER THERE AND YOU DID THIS PRIOR TO THAT, I THINK WHEN YOU WENT THERE WITH THIS PARTICULAR GROUP, DID THE PLANNING TELL YOU THAT THERE WERE SOMEONE WHO JUST CAME KNOCKED ON OUR DOOR? I DON'T KNOW, A MONTH AGO, TWO MONTHS AGO WITH SIMILAR PROJECT AND CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING SAID NO. YES, YES, BUT THEY WERE A DIFFERENT PRODUCT. THAT ONE. NO, NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE CONCEPT WAS THE SAME, RIGHT? IT WAS WAREHOUSE AND ALL THAT. SO IF THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD SAID NO, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY YES TO THIS? TELL ME. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY. UNLESS THE COUNCIL OR PLANNING AND ZONING, SOMEBODY CAN COME AND TELL ME, HEY, OR YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. OKAY, FOLKS, BRING SOMEBODY TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY. THAT'S FINE. WE ARE WILLING. SURE. HAVE YOU MET WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSON? NO, SIR. NO YOU HAVEN'T, RIGHT? NO. OKAY. DAVID, IS THAT IN LINE TO MEET WITH THEM? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE JUST MET TONIGHT. OH, YOU JUST MET WITH TONIGHT. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. OKAY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. YOU'LL GET AN IDEA OF AND THE REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THE GRID, RIGHT? IT'S CLOSER TO STAFFORD OFF OF 90. IT PART OF THE REASON IS IT'S IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO DINE AND THEY ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IN STAFFORD. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. NOW. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THAT PARK. 890, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WHICH IS CLOSER TO THE BELTWAY. IT'S ALL WAREHOUSES, RIGHT? AND THAT WHOLE AREA BECAME THE WAREHOUSES CAPITAL. RIGHT? AND [03:20:07] IT WAS TOLD AT THAT TIME, PROBABLY 20 YEARS AGO, THE WHOLE CONCEPT WAS BELTWAY. IT WAS GOING TO BE EASIER FOR TRUCKS TO GET IN AND OUT. RIGHT. SO THEY SOLD US. I MEAN, I WASN'T, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T THERE AT THIS TIME. BUT THAT WAS THE CONCEPT. AND IT'S WORKING. DON'T GET ME WRONG. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT WORKING ON THAT CORRIDOR, BUT THE MORE INLET YOU GO, WHAT WE SEE IS THE GRID SIMILAR TO IN STAFFORD, RIGHT? IT'S DONE REALLY WELL. AND IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, IT'S WHERE YOU REPRESENT IT. CITY OF SUGAR LAND FOR 90. I DON'T SEE NO WAREHOUSES GOING DOWN THAT WAY EITHER. RIGHT. SO WE'RE STUCK HERE. SO WE HAVE A FEW PROPERTIES LEFT CLOSER TO TEXAS PARKWAY. I THINK IF YOU MEET WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT OUR VISION FOR TEXAS PARKWAY IS AND WHAT IS THAT PLANNING ON COMING. AND I KNOW IT JUST CAME OUT AFTER CITY COUNCIL HAD A RETREAT IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR IN 2026. SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT. AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN COME WITH COME FROM THAT. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO AND I KNOW YOU YOU HOLD ON TO THIS FOR 20 SOME YEARS, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT WHAT'S COMING IN, BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TEXAS PARKWAY TO EVEN RESHAPE THE CORRIDOR AS TO WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU MEET WITH HIM AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THING THAT SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WANT TO SAY. AND THEN I'M ALSO UNDERSTANDING THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS NO, EITHER. RIGHT. STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING FOR THIS EITHER. SO YOU GOT PLANNING AND ZONING, YOU GOT STAFF RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO COME TO COUNCIL. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. YOU KNOW, MY MY THINKING IS THIS WE YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, I'VE BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL AND I WAS THE PRESIDENT OF FORT BEND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I'VE BEEN AROUND, I KNOW I HAVE BEEN, I WORK HARD TO BRING MANY EVENTS AND REGIONAL AIRPORT. I'M A PERSON WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY LOOK GOOD BECAUSE I'M A PROUD RESIDENT OF OVER HALF A CENTURY IN FORT BEND COUNTY. I BELIEVE IN THAT. I WANT TO BRING THE BEST DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO. WE WANT YOU TO BRING IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO BRING. IF I YOU KNOW, CHRISTIAN AND THEIR GROUP, THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO BRING MIXED DEVELOPMENT KIND OF THING, RETAIL, SOME RETAIL, SOME OFFICES, CLASS A OFFICES. IT'S ONLY TAKE 15 MINUTES FROM OUR CORRIDOR TO MEDICAL CENTER. PEOPLE COME AND LEASE THE OFFICES AND HAVE A NICE COFFEE PLACE AND ALL THOSE THINGS OVER THERE. ONCE THEY BUILD ONE, UNLESS YOU BUILD, NOBODY CAN COME THERE. RIGHT? YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT ALL WAREHOUSES. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WRAP THIS UP. WE HAVE SOME COMMISSIONERS GOING AND THAT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ALSO. BUT WHAT I BASICALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS, I WOULD SAY IS GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR EDITOR, OUR DIRECTOR, TO SIT DOWN WITH YOUR TEAM AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING NO, JUST TO SAY NO. WE HAVE A VISION. THE COUNCIL DRAFTED A VISION FOR TEXAS PARKWAY, SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THAT. NOBODY'S JUST SAYING NO, JUST TO SAY NO. RIGHT. AND I KNOW AS A PROPERTY OWNER, NOT JUST YOU OTHERS AS WELL, RIGHT, ARE SITTING IN LINE WITH THINGS THAT THEY JUST WANT TO OFFSET THE PROPERTY. BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT HELPS THAT CORRIDOR, BUT IT ALSO HELPS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT HELPS THE COMMUNITY AND IT HELPS THE DISTRICT IN THIS CASE IS DISTRICT A, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY ONTO THAT AND TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YES. MY MY HEART IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T THINK I SHOULD TALK TO THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE BECAUSE WE OWN THE PROPERTY AND THE BUYER, THEY ARE THE ONE BUYING THE PROPERTY. BUT ARE YOU SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? WELL, I LIKE TO GO HELP THEM OUT. OR WHAT IS THEIR SUGGESTION? THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU JUST SAID. I JUST HEARD YOU SAY, NO, I DON'T. I THINK THE DEVELOPER IS THE ONE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE DECISION ON IT, NOT US, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE GOING TO. OKAY. I INVITE YOU LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM JUST SAID, TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE WITH YOU BEING A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER IN SUGARLAND, WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT, WHAT YOU BROUGHT, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUR PERFECT TEXAS PARKWAY HIGHWAY 90 CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD. I THINK YOU HAVE ALL THE EXPERIENCES IN THE WORLD. I'D LOVE TO GO AND TALK TO THEM. YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY ALLOW ME, NO PROBLEM. OKAY, AWESOME. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP ON TO THE COMMISSION AGAIN FOR THE GREAT SERVICES YOU'RE DOING. GOD BLESS YOU ALL. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. BYE BYE. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR COMMISSIONERS. FIRST IN THE QUEUE IS COMMISSIONER [03:25:03] DAVIDSON. THANK YOU. YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP, MY FRIEND? OR IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A TEAM MEMBER SUB OUT, THAT'S FINE TOO. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. I, I WILL NOT PROVIDE TOO MUCH COMMENTARY. JUST TWO QUESTIONS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE TIRED. WE ALL ARE. I GOT REALLY EXCITED WHEN I SAW FLEX OFFICE SPACE, AND THEN I SAW THE RENDERING. AND IT'S MORE OF WHAT COUNCIL HAS STATED THAT THE CITY DOES NOT WANT. CAN YOU. I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO DESCRIBE ANY ASSETS IN YOUR INVENTORY RELATIVE TO ACTUAL FLEX OFFICE SPACE, WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME IN AND WORK, EITHER TAKING A BREAK FROM WORKING FROM HOME, IF YOU OFFER THAT, OR OTHER TYPES OF PRODUCTS WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND UTILIZE THAT SPACE WHO LIVE AROUND THE AREA. IF YOU OFFER THAT, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. ARE YOU ASKING? SO YOU AND I WORK FOR PROVIDENT IN AT HOME. WE WORK FROM HOME, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND RENT AVAILABLE SPACE TO WORK IN AN OFFICE SETTING, LIKE A TRUE FLEX WORK OFFICE. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ARE REFERENCING? LIKE A COWORKING SPACE? YEAH. OKAY. DO YOU OFFER THAT IN YOUR PORTFOLIO? NO, NO. SO IF SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER KLAUSNER'S POINT, IF IF YOU WERE TO KIND OF REASSESS WHAT YOU'RE OFFERING THE CITY HAVING A WORKS, A FLEXIBLE WORKSPACE OR CO-WORKING SPACE IS NOT SOMETHING YOU OFFER. TYPICALLY COWORKING SPACE IS GOING INTO LIKE A, A LARGE MULTI STOREY OFFICE BUILDING. NOT NECESSARILY. THERE'S ONE STORY IS AVAILABLE. THEY HAVE THEM IN FRISCO AND FORT WORTH AS WELL. I DON'T HAVE ANY TENANTS THAT ARE COWORKING SPACE. IF THAT'S THE QUESTION IS YOUR. SO YOUR ENTIRE PORTFOLIO IS INDUSTRIAL OUTSIDE OF THE GRID, WHICH THEY GOT A LOT OF PUBLICITY TONIGHT. NO, I MEAN, THERE'S WE'VE GOT 5 BILLION UNDER ASSET MANAGEMENT. I COULD I MEAN, IT'S A LONG LIST. GOTCHA. SO JUST. BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE ALL ASSET CLASSES. SO WE'VE GOT OFFICE BUILDINGS. WE'VE GOT RETAIL. WE'VE GOT OFFICE BUILDINGS. ONE STORY. WELL YES WE HAVE WE HAVE FLEX OFFICE. LIKE WHAT'S BEING REPRESENTED HERE. ALL RIGHT. WHAT I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE IS TO RETHINK THAT. WITH THE SPACE AVAILABLE, THE GRID ISN'T GOING TO WORK. WE ALL KNOW THAT. YOU JUST BROUGHT IT UP AS AN EXAMPLE. IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE USED AS IT WAS USED, BUT SORRY, THAT THAT WAS THE THAT WAS A, AN EXAMPLE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME BY THE BY THE STAFF. I GOT YOU ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I WAS USING IT. AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DEVELOPED WITH IT. I WAS TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT ONE. MY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO FOR US TO DO WHEN YOU COME BACK, BECAUSE I WASN'T AT THE PNC MEETING, I WASN'T ON THE PNC AT THE TIME THIS WAS BROUGHT UP. IF YOU COULD CONSIDER FLEXIBLE WORKSPACES WHERE RESIDENTS COULD ACTUALLY USE IT, THE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM FROM 90 OR HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS, THEY COULD USE THAT AS WELL. I THINK YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT SPACE. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FOLKS AT SECOND MILE, WITH THE WITH THE PEOPLE AT SECOND MILE, THE NEIGHBORING FACILITY? NO, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE, THAT'S HIS TENANT. OKAY. AND THEY, THEY, YEAH, THEY DEEDED THEM OVER THE PROPERTY AS A DONATION. OKAY. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO CHAIRMAN PEARSON. I KNOW YOU'RE TIRED. SO SHOULD I STAY HERE? MAKE IT REAL QUICK. DOES ANYONE KNOW THE TRAFFIC COUNT THAT GOES BY THAT PROPERTY? DO WE KNOW THE CAR COUNT? WHAT IS IT? 70,000 CARS A DAY. 70,000 CARS A DAY. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE WAREHOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT UP, BECAUSE THAT'S IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE BELTWAY DISTRIBUTION OR WAREHOUSES WANT EASY ACCESS TO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. SO AS THE MAYOR STATED, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE SOLD, THAT THAT'S HOW WE WERE PRESENTED. YOU GOT 70,000 CARS THAT ARE GOING BY THAT LOCATION EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU GOT A BUNCH OF WAREHOUSES, BUT YOU HAVE NOTHING FOR THOSE FOLKS TO EAT, NO BUSINESSES OR SERVICES THAT THEY CAN COME TO ON A LUNCH HOUR. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY THAT COULD ALSO BENEFIT FROM SOME OF THOSE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS. IF YOU GO RIGHT DOWN TO STAFFORD, YOU HAVE A ROW OF THAT, AND IT'S THE SAME 7000 CARS THAT ARE PASSING THERE THAT ARE PASSING IN MISSOURI CITY. CAN I [03:30:05] COMMENT ON THAT? IT'S IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. YOU DON'T HAVE FEEDER ROADS AT THIS PROPERTY. SO YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SLOW RETAIL DRIVERS PULLING IN. RIGHT. SO THAT'S ONE, YOU'RE NOT ALIGHTED FOR FOUR WAY LIGHTED INTERSECTION. THAT'S THE SECOND. I MEAN, IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. ANY RETAIL DEVELOPER OF ANY WORTH OR SALT, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE AT A LIGHTED INTERSECTION. I MEAN THAT THAT IS JUST LIKE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT NUMBER ONE. OKAY, I GET THAT. THAT'S THAT'S THE EASY PART. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO GET SOME RETAIL OVER THERE WITH SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT EXIST. BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME, YOU STILL HAVE A POPULATION THAT NEEDS SOME OF THOSE SERVICES. THERE WAS HAS THAT. LET ME FINISH. HAS THAT BEEN PRESENTED? HAS WHAT BEEN PRESENTED? HAS THAT WITH THOSE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES, HAS THAT BEEN PRESENTED TO ANY RETAIL THUS FAR? BECAUSE ALL I'M HEARING IS WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T. IT'S STILL 7000 CARS THAT ARE COMING ACROSS THERE. YES, IT WILL BE AN INCONVENIENCE TO GET SOME FOLKS TO STOP. BUT I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY. YOU GO TO MCDONALD'S AND EVERY TIME YOU GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH, THEY USED TO ASK YOU, DO YOU WANT A HOT APPLE PIE? YOU ASK 100 PEOPLE, AND IF YOU GET TEN PEOPLE TO BUY IT, YOU GOT TEN PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN HAD YOU NOT ASKED. MY POINT IS, IS THAT YES, THERE IS A SET OF CHALLENGES FOR THAT PROPERTY, BUT THAT DOESN'T NEGATE THE FACT THAT THOSE SERVICES ARE NEEDED. THE COMMUNITY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THOSE. AND I CAN PROBABLY ASSURE YOU, AND I, I'M SURE, COUNCILMAN, FOR THAT DISTRICT WOULD SAY THE SAME THING. YOU'D GET A BETTER RECEPTION IF YOU LOOKED AT SOME OF THE RETAIL BUSINESSES AND SERVICES THAT THE COMMUNITY ADJACENT TO THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM. OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT I TURNED IT OFF. AND ALSO SOME OF THOSE WAREHOUSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THAT AREA, WE GOT LIMITED LAND LEFT. SO THE CHANCES OF YOU GETTING WHAT YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO GET BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE HEARING, IS SLIM TO NONE. SO I CHALLENGE YOU, AND I'M SURE EVERYONE ELSE CHALLENGES YOU TO GO BACK. WITH A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST. YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME, WORKING WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME THINGS HAPPEN OTHER THAN A WAREHOUSE. I LIKE HOW YOU'RE SELLING IT. IT'S FLEX SPACE. WHAT IT IS, IS CATERING TO A BUSINESS THAT WILL HAVE THEIR OFFICES IN THEIR WAREHOUSE. THAT'S ALL THAT IS. FLEX SPACE IS WHAT COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON WAS ASKING. WHAT YOU HAVE INTERNET CAFE WHERE FOLKS COULD LEAVE THEIR HOME THAT WORK FROM HOME AND COME IN THERE. THAT'S MORE FLEX SPACE. WHAT YOU'RE SELLING IS A WAREHOUSE. THE FLEX SPACE IS FOR WHOMEVER IS GOING TO BE IN THAT BUILDING. THAT'S THEIR OFFICE SPACE. AM I WRONG? NO. I'LL HELP YOU OUT. NO. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE STILL HAVE 7000 CARS THAT ARE PASSING THERE EVERY DAY. IF WE GET 15,000 CARS OUT OF THE 70,000, I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME BUSINESS MODELS THAT MAY WORK OVER ■THERE. YOU JUST MAY HAVE TO TRY A LITTLE HARDER TO DO THAT VERSUS EVERYTHING FITS IN A BOX. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED AT TEXAS PARKWAY AND HIGHWAY 90, I GUESS IT'S AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER AND IT'S A GREENFIELD SITE. RIGHT. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY? YES. AND IT'S ON TEXAS PARKWAY. TO ME, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING APPLIES TO THAT. IT'S JUST NOT APPLICABLE HERE. WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LET'S JUST LET'S JUST WALK THROUGH THIS. YOU HAVE A CAR, WE'RE COMING FROM DOWNTOWN OR WE'RE GOING DOWN HIGHWAY 90, DRIVING SOUTH. YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FREEWAY. YOU CAN'T GET OFF. YOU CAN'T STOP AT A LIGHT. YOU CAN'T CROSS OVER HIGHWAY 90. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO DOWN TO TEXAS PARKWAY AND MAKE THE U-TURN TO COME BACK. OKAY. IF IT'S RETAIL AND I'M EXITING HIGHWAY 90, I'M PROBABLY JUST GOING TO SOMEWHERE ON HIGHWAY 90. I MEAN, TEXAS PARKWAY. I'M PROBABLY JUST GOING TO SOMEWHERE AT TEXAS PARKWAY THEN, I MEAN, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK ALL THE WAY AROUND. AND IF YOU'RE GOING SOUTH HOME, I MEAN, IT'S JUST FOR RETAIL, FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS A DEATH WISH. IT REALLY IS. AND I MEAN THAT IN THE MOST RESPECTFUL WAY. BUT THOSE ARE JUST THAT IS THE NATURE OF RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. I'M IN RETAIL, SO I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. OKAY. WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS I CHALLENGE YOU TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES, USING THE BASIS OF YOUR EFFORTS. YOU GOT 7000 CARS THAT ARE PASSING THERE. YES, IT'S A HARDER SELL, BUT YOU GOT LIMITED SPACE. AND PART OF THAT SELLING IS WE GOT LIMITED SPACE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE ALL THESE WAREHOUSES WITH [03:35:02] NOTHING FOR THEM TO BENEFIT FROM. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY ADJACENT TO IT WITH NOTHING FROM THEM. I GET IT. I THINK IT'S I THINK I THINK THAT'S TO SAY THAT THERE'S NOTHING BENEFITING. THIS DOES CREATE TONS OF JOBS. IT CREATES A TAX BASIS. I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF VALUE IN NO DISRESPECT, I GET ALL OF THAT. THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU'RE SELLING. I'M SAYING FROM THE COMMUNITY STANDPOINT OF VIEW, THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT. THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT. THEY WANT THINGS THAT THEY WILL BENEFIT FROM, FROM A STANDPOINT OF VIEW OF SERVICES THAT THEY COULD APPRECIATE. AND IF YOU TAKE THAT APPROACH, IT WON'T BE EASY. WELL, IT WON'T BE ECONOMICAL EITHER. I MEAN, THE CITY RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS A PRIME, BUT IT'S A PRIME EXAMPLE. THAT'S A LONG TIME AGO. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS BEFORE ALL THE WAREHOUSES THAT WERE THERE. I DON'T MEAN TO BE DISRESPECTFUL, BUT I'VE BEEN OUT HERE SINCE 1991. MY FATHER WORKED AT WKM, WHICH WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 90 BEFORE 90 WAS PAVED. I CAME OUT HERE AS A CHILD BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE WORKED, SO I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH IT. I GET YOUR POINT. MY POINT IS, IT MAY NOT BE EASY TO SELL, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU OR I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE THAT IF WE PUT SOME RETAIL OVER THERE, YOU'LL GET SOME SUCCESS. SO MAYOR PRO TEM, IF I MAY CHIME IN HERE, COMMISSIONER, IF I MAY, I THINK A LOT OF THOUGHTS HAVE BEEN TOSSED AROUND ABOUT THE CHALLENGES OF INFRASTRUCTURE, I.E. THE SIGNAL LIGHTS AND THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE. IF WE MAY TAKE A FINAL BITE AT THIS APPLE WITH OUR NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR BEING HERE, MY TEAM, THE CITY ENGINEERING TEAM, WILL PRESENT YOU WITH SOME OPTIONS AND HOW POTENTIALLY CITY CAN HELP. ULTIMATELY, THE DECISION IS MADE BY PNC AND COUNCIL, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME, AND BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL, WE WILL POSSIBLY DISCUSS THAT AND BRING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO PNC. AND IF PNC GIVES A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE, SO TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING WITH YOUR TEAM. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS A LOT, BUT JUST KNOW THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY. WE'RE VERY PASSIONATE. I KNOW YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT YOU DO. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO ALL COME TO THE TO THE TABLE TOGETHER TO GIVE EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WANT, AND ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THIS IS WHO WE WORK FOR AS RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY. WELL, SHE KIND OF ALLUDED TO WHERE I WAS GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN WRAP THIS UP, BUT I, I DID NOTICE THAT YOUR COLLEAGUE WAS SHAKING HIS HEAD A LOT. WOULD YOU MIND COMING TO THE PODIUM? BECAUSE I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU YOU JUST KEPT DOING THIS. IT WAS IT WAS DEFINITELY DISTRACTING AND INTERESTING AT THE SAME TOKEN, AND I REALLY WANT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS IN REGARDS TO THAT. YEAH. SO MY NAME IS REED VESTAL. I'M ACTUALLY KRISTEN'S HUSBAND AND I'M A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL. I OWN A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FIRM, A COMPETING ONE AGAINST MY WIFE'S FIRM, AND I'M A LAMB BROKER BY NATURE. SO I HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY LAND TRANSACTIONS AROUND THE HOUSTON MARKET A LOT IN MISSOURI CITY, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, INDUSTRIAL, YOU NAME IT. HIGH RISE DEALS TO MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY DEALS. SO I HAVE AN EXTREMELY GOOD PULSE ON THE MARKET. I UNDERSTAND THIS AS WELL AS ANYBODY IN THE HOUSTON MARKET. I'M A TOP FIVE LAND BROKER OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS, YEAR IN, YEAR OUT. SO I WORK WITH NOT ONLY PROVIDENT. AND NOT ONLY DO I HAVE MY OWN DEVELOPMENT FIRM, BUT I REPRESENT SOME OF THE BIGGEST DEVELOPMENT FIRMS IN THE WORLD. AND SO I'VE DONE. YOU WERE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. I'M SHAKING MY HEAD BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR FOR THIS LOCATION, FOR THIS LOCATION. OKAY, LOOK, I THINK WHAT Y'ALL ARE ASKING FOR IS VIABLE AND REASONABLE. I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS SITE JUST DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO RETAIL AT ALL. I MEAN, IT'S ZERO. OKAY. AND I'VE DONE DEALS WITH H-E-B, KROGER, STARBUCKS, CHICK FIL A, ALL OF THEM. THERE'S BEEN MORE GROUPS I'VE DONE DEALS WITH THAN I HAVEN'T DONE DEALS WITH. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR KIND OF LIKE ROUND IT OUT. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS NOT POSSIBLE. I'VE DONE MANY, MANY, MANY INDUSTRIAL DISTRIBUTION DEALS AND FLEX DEALS. THE BUILDING IN THE FRONT IS AN OFFICE FLEX DEAL. THAT MEANS THAT IT HAS MORE OFFICE THAN [03:40:06] WAREHOUSE. THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR NICE PRODUCT TO COME IN, BECAUSE IT'S ALL GLASS AND IT'S A HIGH END OFFICE LEVEL FINISH IN THE FRONT. IT'S APPEALING, IT'S NICE, AND IT BRINGS JOB OPPORTUNITIES. IT HAS INCREDIBLE VALUATION FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. I MEAN, IT'S JUST THIS IS WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO HERE. OKAY. I'M AFRAID FOR THE LANDOWNER. GO AHEAD AND PAUSE YOU ON YOUR COMMENTS RIGHT NOW. WELL, YOU'VE ASKED ME TO COME UP HERE AND EXCUSE ME, POINT OF ORDER. POINT OF ORDER. ALL RIGHT. SO I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING YOUR INPUT AND SHARING YOUR CONCERNS AS WELL AS YOUR EXPERTISE. SURE. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR SEAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. BECAUSE WE HAVE RESIDENTS HERE. THOSE RESIDENTS, PLEASE STAND UP. YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. THEY STAYED HERE THREE HOURS. NO, EXCUSE ME, FOUR HOURS BECAUSE THIS MEETING STARTED AT 6:00. THEY'RE PASSIONATE. THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHARACTER AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. ALTHOUGH YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS WON'T WORK. WHAT THE COUNCIL IS SAYING, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR, THE PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING DOESN'T WORK FOR FOR US. OUR STAFF EXPLAINED THAT TO YOU, AND YOU STILL CHOSE TO PROCEED WITH THAT, WHICH CONCERNS ME. HOW FRIENDLY OF NEIGHBORS ARE Y'ALL GOING TO BE IN OUR CITY? AND I APPRECIATE THE VALUE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO THE RESIDENTS INTO THIS COMMUNITY AS FAR AS REVENUE. BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO BRING US BACK A PROJECT THAT FITS OUR VISION, NOT YOUR VISION. THIS IS OUR CITY. WE LIVE HERE. WE SERVE, WE PAY TAXES. THOSE PEOPLE STANDING BEHIND YOU, THEY HAVE TO LIVE NEXT TO THAT. THEY ALREADY HAVE TONS OF CONCRETE BEHIND THEM. THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR GRANDCHILDREN COME BACK, BRING US SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH, THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT STAND BEHIND YOU CAN STAND IN THE AUDIENCE THE NEXT TIME AND SAY, YES, I SUPPORT IT. THEY DIDN'T EVEN SOME OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN SIGN UP TO SPEAK, BUT THEY STAYED HERE FOR HOURS. THAT MEANS THEY'RE DEDICATED TO THE OUTCOME OF THIS VISION. THAT IS GOOD REAL ESTATE OVER THERE, AND WE WANT WHAT'S BEST, AND WE WANT Y'ALL TO WORK WITH US. AND AS SHASHI, OUR ASSISTANT MANAGER, STATED, PLEASE GET IN CONTACT WITH OUR TEAM. WE HAVE A NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. HE WANTS TO SHARE THINGS WITH YOU, AND I'M SURE Y'ALL WANT TO SHARE THINGS WITH THEM, BUT DON'T SHUT US DOWN AND JUST SAY, NO, WE CAN'T DO IT. LET'S, LET'S, LET'S MAKE THIS A PARTNERSHIP AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. THAT WORKS FOR YOU GUYS. AND IT WORKS FOR OUR CITY. AND I APPRECIATE I WASN'T TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT IT JUST IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE WE WERE NOT GOING IN THE THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH, BUT LET'S GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE A HARMONIOUS PROJECT THAT WORKS FOR YOUR PROFIT MARGIN, AND IT WORKS FOR THE PROFIT OF OUR PEOPLE HERE IN MISSOURI CITY. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WELL, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY AND PASSIONATE ABOUT PROJECTS. THIS IS WHAT I CALL A HEALTHY RUMBLE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. AS SHASHI MENTIONED, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? DAVID, LANDOWNER, DEVELOPER. I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS THIS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE THE CONVERSATIONS, JUST CONTINUE THE CONVERSATIONS. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY WITH HAVING NO MORE COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING. I DON'T SEE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE QUEUE. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO SEVEN, AND THAT IS TO ADJOURN * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.