Jun 22, 2026 City Council & Planning and Zoning Commission Joint Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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WILL NOT CALL THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JOIN MEETING TO ORDER AT 6 P.M. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CERTIFY THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM ON THE COUNCIL.

CHAIRMAN PIERSON, CAN YOU CERTIFY IF THERE'S A QUORUM OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION? YES. I CERTIFY THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. OKAY. THANK

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

MY NAME IS JOHN FLETCHER. I LIVE IN HUNTERS GREEN SUBDIVISION. MY ADDRESS IS 1910 WOODLAND HILLS DRIVE, MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS. AND WE GOT INFORMATION ABOUT THE WATER THING GOING ON IN SIX A TO PUT THE WATER TREATMENT UP, AND WE, OUR COMMUNITY, HAD FULL INTENTION. THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PART. THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE PARK THERE. AND NOW THAT THE WATER, THE MUSHROOM. 26 WANT TO PUT SOMETHING THERE TO, TO ADD WATER TO TO IT. THAT BROUGHT US SOME CONCERN FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND PLUS THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING THAT AREA.

AND IT SEEMS AS IF IN MY MIND, I GOT THE PICTURE OF, OF THE, THE FUTURE OF MISSOURI CITY AND THAT DIDN'T FIT, THAT DOESN'T FIT SEEM TO FIT IN THAT, THAT THAT FUTURE PRESENCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN OUR COMMUNITY. I MEAN, THERE'S AREAS OF OTHER PLACES LIKE FURTHER DOWN MISSOURI, FURTHER DOWN TEXAS PARKWAY THAT THEY COULD USE, BUT IT SEEMS AS IF THEY WANTED THEY WANT THIS AREA HERE. I NOTICED WHEN THEY DID SOME WORK BEFORE NEXT TO THE FIRE STATION, THEY DID A LOT OF DIGGING, A LOT OF WORK THERE. AND IT SEEMED TO BE IRONIC THAT THAT OTHER AREA THEY WANT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OR RIGHT UNDERNEATH. THEY CAN TUNNEL RIGHT TO IT IF THEY CHOOSE TO. BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER IT MOVING TO ANOTHER PLACE IF THEY CAN CONSIDER MOVING TO ANOTHER PLACE. I'VE BEEN TO SOME OF THE AREAS THAT THE 26TH DISTRICT OWNS, AND THERE'S TRASH EVERYWHERE. I WENT DOWN 6317 WEST FUQUA. THERE'S A WATER TREATMENT PLANT THERE THAT STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN. NOT THAT THEY'RE SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SAME THING. THEN I CAME DOWN BEHIND HUNTER'S GLEN, AND THERE'S ANOTHER TREATMENT PLANT THERE, AND THERE'S TRASH EVERYWHERE INSIDE THE GATE, INSIDE THE FENCE. THEY DON'T KEEP THE PLACES CLEAN. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THEIR AREA OR NOT. AND I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHERE'S THE OTHER WATER? WATER PLANTS ARE IN MISSOURI CITY THAT THEY OWN.

THERE'S TWO OF THEM, RIGHT? THERE'S A QUESTION. I MEAN, IS THERE TWO? BUT YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT LATER. I'LL GO AHEAD AND KEEP GOING IN MY TIME. BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, I THINK IT MAY BE THE ONE BY CLOVER WEST PARK. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S IT OR NOT, BUT IT CAN MOVE FURTHER BACK. THERE'S THERE'S LAND WHERE WE HAVE ABANDONED OIL WELLS THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY USE TO DO THIS TREATMENT PLANT, BUT NOT RIGHT NEXT TO A COMMUNITY THAT'S SITTING RIGHT THERE BEHIND THE HOUSES AND ALL OF THAT. AND THE PLAN THAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE WE WERE SO HOPEFUL FOR A PARK TO COME THERE FOR THAT AREA. BUT NOW IT SEEMS TO BE THEY HAD OTHER IDEAS FOR IT. AND NOW THEY NOW THEY WANT TO REQUEST PERMISSION TO, TO PUT THIS PLANT THERE, NOT KNOWING THE, THE, THE LIMITS AND THAT THEY CAN GO TO WHAT THEY CAN CHANGE THEIR PLANS AND ALL OF THAT. SO TO BE SAFE, WE WOULD RATHER FOR IT NOT TO BE THERE. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY COMMUNITY, WHO DID NOT GET THE LETTER IN THE MAIL THAT WE CAN SIGN IN AND MAIL IN. SO I SHOWED UP TO DO THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. SECRETARY, MR. MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENTS. OKAY. SO RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER. BROWN. MARSHALL.

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

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OKAY. SO IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER RICE, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. MAYOR. YES. MEMBER. RILEY. YES. MEMBER. THOMPSON. YES. MEMBER. O'DEKIRK. YES.

MEMBER. BROWN. MARSHALL. YES. MEMBER. EMERY. YES. COMMISSIONER. PEARSON. YES.

COMMISSIONER ARMSTRONG IS ABSENT. COMMISSIONER SILLOWAY. YES. COMMISSIONER. SILVA. YES.

COMMISSIONER. DARRYLL. YES. COMMISSIONER. DAVIDSON. COMMISSIONER. ATWOOD. YES.

COMMISSIONER. BOWDEN. YES. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER

[a. Public Hearing - To receive comments for or against a request by Chris...]

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AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND THEY INTEND TO DO HERE IS, IS THE ABOVE GROUND WATER STORAGE TANKS, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY A FUTURE WATER WELL AT THIS LOCATION. SO IT'S COMBINED KIND OF A COMBINED FACILITY WHERE THERE IS GOING TO BE PARK AS WELL AS A WATER PLANT. THAT'S THAT'S THE VISION THAT THE MUD HAS. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S BEEN FOR ME PAST SIX YEARS, EVER SINCE 2020, I'VE BEEN SEEING THAT PARK SIGNAGE UP THERE. SO AT WHAT POINT IN TIME THAT DO YOU KNOW, OR THAT DOES THE CITY KNOW THAT THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARK? I MAY WANT TO ASK CHRIS BURKE REPRESENTING THE MUD, TO MAYBE GIVE AN UPDATE TO THE TO THIS BODY ABOUT WHEN THAT. ABSOLUTELY. HI. MY NAME'S CHRIS BURKE FOR ENGINEERING. I'M A PROJECT ENGINEER ON THIS ON THIS PROJECT, THE DISTRICT IS IS MOVING FORWARD WITH. DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK. THEY RECENTLY INSTALLED TREES AND IRRIGATION AROUND THE PERIMETER. AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A SET OF DRAWINGS FOR A PARKING LOT AND DRIVEWAY, WHICH WILL SERVE BOTH FACILITIES. THE WATER PLANT IS A FUTURE FACILITY. THEY DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT WATER PLANT YET, BUT THAT WILL LIKELY BE FUTURE BOND FUNDS. THE PARK WILL BE CONSTRUCTED MOST LIKELY IN PHASES BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE LIMITED WITH THE DOLLARS THEY CAN USE FOR THAT PARK. THEY CAN'T SELL BONDS FOR THAT PARK. THEY ONLY HAVE BOND AUTHORIZATION FOR WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE FACILITIES. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THEIR OPERATIONS BUDGET WILL ALLOW THEM, THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH WITH DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK. AGAIN, THE FIRST PHASE IS THE THE DRIVEWAY PARKING LOT AND SOME DRAINAGE THAT WILL SERVE BOTH FACILITIES. AND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT UP THE THE NEED FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

OKAY, SO I GUESS I WAS THE ONE THAT WAS ASKING BECAUSE IT COMES UP DURING EVERY, EVERY, EVERY NOW AND THEN IS WHEN, WHEN WILL THIS PARK BE DONE? BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF. AND THIS IS MUD'S PROPERTY, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD CREATE THIS. THEY LABEL THIS AS TO BE A PARK. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THIS WATER FACILITY, THAT PROPOSED WATER PLANT, WAS THAT ALWAYS IN THAT DRAWING? TO THE EXTENT THAT I KNOW, YES. I THINK THEY'VE ALL HAD THE INTENTION TO BUILD A WATER PARK OR A WATER FACILITY. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. CHRIS.

YOU CAN MY UNDERSTANDING AND THE THE LAND WAS PURCHASED BEFORE I WAS EASEMENT THAT THE ATTORNEY PURSUED FOR THAT FUTURE WATER? WELL, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PLANNED TO BE A DUAL FACILITY. OKAY. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION BACK TO YOU AGAIN, SHASHI, IS AS THE CITY'S FORMER ENGINEER. AS CITY'S PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WERE YOU AWARE OF THE FACT THAT WILL. THERE WILL BE TWO WATER PLANT WAS IN SOME SORT OF DISCUSSION, MAYBE NOT IN WRITING OR HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT? I HAD HEARD ABOUT SOME WATER FACILITIES, NOT SPECIFICALLY A WATER TANK AND THOSE KIND OF DETAILS THAT I WAS MADE AWARE AS THIS CASE CAME FORWARD TODAY. BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT THEY WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING PHASE. I WAS AWARE THAT THERE WOULD BE A WATER FACILITY, SOMETHING HERE AT THIS LOCATION. OKAY. SO FROM A CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE, HAVING THIS THERE CONSTRUCTING NOT ONE, BUT TWO. RIGHT. WHAT'S YOUR

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BUT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. AND AS IT COMES TO P AND Z AND TO CITY COUNCIL STAFF WILL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. BUT YOU WILL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR. WE DO NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TODAY. RIGHT. THIS IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THAT IS CORRECT. CORRECT. BUT YOU WILL HAVE WHEN IT COMES UP. WELL, THIS IS GOING TO PNC IN JUNE. YES. RIGHT. AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT IN TIME. RIGHT. CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO FOR THAT PURPOSES I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND YIELD BACK AND RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN. THANK YOU MAYOR. I GUESS WE'RE WITH THE LINE OF QUESTIONING THAT THE MAYOR WAS PRESENTING TO YOU. IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE A BAIT AND SWITCH, IF YOU WILL, ESPECIALLY IF THE RESIDENTS REALLY FELT LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO RECEIVE A PARK. AND NOW TO HEAR THAT A WATER PLANT COULD POTENTIALLY BE COMING THERE. AND THAT THAT WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN. BUT THE RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

THAT'S REALLY THE CONCERN HERE. SO IT IS. ARE YOU DECOMMISSIONING THE OTHER ONE OR NO. OKAY. TELL ME WHY YOU'RE DOING THIS. BECAUSE THIS DISTRICT HAS A SINGLE WATER WELL. OKAY. AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, THAT WATER WELL IS 25 PLUS YEARS OLD. OKAY. AND THIS DISTRICT IS NOT SLATED TO RECEIVE SURFACE WATER. SO THIS IS AN EFFORT TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DISTRICT PRIMARILY HAS A ADEQUATE SOURCE OF DRINKING WATER. OKAY. AND THE TO MY AGAIN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE WATER PLANT WAS ALWAYS PART OF THIS PLAN. I THINK IF YOU GO BACK TO EVEN THE THE PURCHASE OF THE FACILITY AND HOW IT WAS FUNDED, IT ALWAYS REFERS TO THE FUTURE WATER PLANT SITE. OKAY. MY SECOND QUESTION IS ON THE CURRENT LAND WHERE THE OTHER ONE IS LOCATED, IS THERE NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO BUILD ANOTHER TANK ON THAT PARTICULAR. NO THERE'S NOT. IT'S IT'S EVERYTHING IS TAPPED. IF YOU DRILL A SECOND WELL, YOU REALLY NEED TO MAINTAIN A SPACE OF A COUPLE THOUSAND FEET. SO THEY'RE NOT STEALING WATER FROM EACH OTHER. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. CERTAINLY. ALL RIGHT.

RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. THANK YOU. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES THAT THIS THAT SERVES THE DISTRICT CURRENTLY SERVES? I THINK IT'S 2050 CONNECTIONS. OKAY. EQUIVALENT CONNECTIONS. AND THIS AREA IS NOT CURRENTLY EXPANDING. I DON'T THERE'S NOT MUCH FREE SPACE IN THAT AREA. CORRECT. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE. THE ONLY THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY IS THIS TRACT. AND THEN THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON CARTWRIGHT COLUMBIA BLUE. OKAY. AND YOU MENTIONED FUNDS. THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO FUNDS AT THIS POINT UNLESS THEY PULL FROM EXISTING BOND ISSUE. THEY'RE THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING OUT THEIR WASTEWATER TREATMENT ISSUES. THEY'VE GOT A PLANT THAT NEEDS REHABILITATION. TO THE EXTENT THERE ARE FUNDS LEFT OVER, ONCE THOSE FACILITIES ARE REHABBED AND AND IMPROVED, THEN THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING LEFT FOR THIS. BUT IT'S A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL, EXPENSIVE PROJECT. AND YOU'VE SAID ABSOLUTELY NO BOND FUNDS GO TO THE ALL OPERATIONS TO THE PARK, RIGHT. THE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE BONDS. SO ESSENTIALLY, YOU HAVE NO IDEA. YOU'RE JUST PREPPING FOR THE EVENTUALITY THAT YOU'LL GET THE SECOND LAW. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO IT COULD BE FIVE YEARS. IT COULD BE TEN YEARS. IT COULD BE EVEN FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. IT COULD BE. OKAY. I MEAN, NOBODY WANTS WATER IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE TO OUR RESIDENTS. EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE WATER. THE REDUNDANCY IN THIS IS WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT A CRITICAL NEED? ONE DAY IT WILL BE ONE. I'M SORRY. YOU REPRESENT AN ENGINEER? YES. YES, MA'AM. YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS? YES, ABSOLUTELY. IT IS NOT CURRENTLY CRITICAL, BUT ONE DAY IT WILL BECOME. WHEN THAT WATER. WELL, IT HAS A CERTAIN LIFESPAN.

THEY'RE GENERALLY 40 TO 50 YEARS. SO THE DISTRICT IS TRYING TO MAKE PLANS TO TO HAVE A SECOND SOURCE OF WATER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW SOME OF OUR OTHER AREAS, LIKE BELL VALLEY HAVE JUST HAD THE TAP AND DO SOME OTHER THINGS AND THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER RILEY. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON HOW CLOSE THESE TYPE OF BUILDS CAN BE TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS? I

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THAT'S PROBABLY FOUR FOOT TALL RIGHT AROUND THERE. AND BASICALLY THAT'S IT. NOW, YOU KNOW, I GUESS TO I'M I'M SO GLAD THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS JOINT COMMISSION JOINT PNC AND THIS MEETING BECAUSE I DON'T HONESTLY THINK, MR. BURKE, THAT THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE UP THERE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE OF THE WATER TOWER? TO SEE

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I. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS I NEED Y'ALL TO HOLD YOUR PAUSE BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK TO Y'ALL.

YOU HAD YOUR OPPORTUNITY, BUT I GUESS IT'S NOT REALLY FOR CLAPPING. IT'S REALLY TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE DIFFERENCE, THE, THE DIFFERENCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR A LONG TIME, THAT ANYBODY CAN PURCHASE ANYTHING AND CAN GO AND PUT ANYTHING UP HERE AND RETROFIT IT INTO WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE. WE SHARED WITH COUNCIL AND STAFF. YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SCHEMATIC OF WHAT TEXAS PARKWAY SHOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS FITS REALLY IN YOUR DISTRICT. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS FITS IN THAT WHAT THIS LOOK LIKE. NOW I UNDERSTAND WATER. I GET YOU, YOU WANT IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE THE MOST COMPARABLE PLACE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S ADJACENT TO BOTH SIDES ACROSS THE STREET AND BEHIND US. IT'S GOING TO BE A A WATER TOWER SITTING, TWO OF THEM SITTING LIKE THIS. AND ALSO I'LL END IT WITH THIS. AND I KNOW WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK ALSO. YOU GUYS PROMISED THE CITIZENS PARK AND YOU DON'T. I HAVEN'T SEEN A SINGLE THING OUT THERE THAT SHOWS ME THAT'S A PARK. EVERY ELECTION THAT COMES UP, PEOPLE ASK BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S OWNED BY MAR 26. THEY THINK IT'S OWNED BY MISSOURI CITY. EVERY ELECTION CYCLE, WHETHER IT'S DISTRICT LEVEL OR A LARGE LEVEL, THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING, HOW COME CITY DOESN'T PUT ANYTHING OR MAINTAIN IT OR ANYTHING TO PUT THIS UP? AND OUR ANSWER, YOU HEARD IT EARLIER FROM COUNCILMEMBER RILEY, WHO REPRESENTS THAT DISTRICT, SAYS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OWNED BY MUD.

AND WHEN WE REACH OUT TO YOU GUYS TO CUT THE GRASS, WE GOT TO REACH OUT TO YOU ALL TO CUT THE GRASS. SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THIS IS NOT LET'S FLIP IT TO THE OTHER PAGE.

THE FACT THAT THIS LOOKS LIKE A PARK, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S IDEAL, BUT TO STICK THAT WATER TANK IN HERE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT YOU AND HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. I KNOW THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW NOW. SO THIS WAY, IF YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE, WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WHO'S SITTING BACK THERE AND OUR ENGINEERS TO LOOK AT IT. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WOULD WORK BECAUSE YOU CAN'T IT WON'T FIT IN THE SCHEMATIC OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO THAT'S JUST MY, MY, MY CONVERSATION BACK TO YOU. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RECOGNIZE BROWN MARSHALL. AND I THINK WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY. THEN WE'LL GO TO SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU. SO AT THE TIME THAT WE REZONE THIS TO C. F, DID WE NOT KNOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED AN SUP FOR THIS WATER TANK? WELL ARE YOU.

I'M SORRY CHASSIS OR DID I HEAR YOU ACCURATELY TO SAY YOU JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THE WATER TANK ABOUT A YEAR AGO? I BECAME AWARE OF THIS ONE WHEN THIS PROPERTY CAME FOR PLATTING. NOW, TO BE HONEST, WE HAVE THE CIP PROCESS BECAUSE ANYTHING LIKE THIS. THAT IS WHY THE SUP IS THERE. BECAUSE THIS BODY GETS TO DECIDE WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY. IF THIS PROPERTY IS NOT DESIRABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY, THEN PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL DECIDES WHAT'S THE BEST LAND USE. SO THE SYSTEM IS WORKING. THE PROCESS IS IN PLACE. OF COURSE, THE APPLICANT HAS THE RIGHT TO PRESENT WHAT HE WANTS TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR. AND THAT'S THE THAT'S THAT'S OUR PROCESS. KNOW THE PROCESS IS FINE. I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE PROCESS AT ALL. I THINK THE PROCESS IS FINE. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IN MY MIND EXACTLY WHEN DID WE KIND OF GET A HANDLE ON IT? SO I GET IT. IT CAME UP AT THE PLANNING PROCESS.

SO IS THAT WHERE YOU GUYS ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IS IN THE PLANNING PROCESS TRYING TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD? YES. THE PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY BEEN SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL IS THE DRIVEWAY AND THE PARKING LOT THAT WILL SERVE BOTH THE PARK AND THE WATER PLANT. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT UP THE NEED FOR THE SUP THE SUP. OKAY. AND WOULD YOU CORRECT ME IF I MISHEARD YOU? I NEED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. DID I HEAR YOU PROPERLY WHEN YOU STATED THAT BONDS CANNOT BE USED FOR PARKS IN THE DISTRICT, BUT THE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE BONDING AUTHORITY FOR PARKS? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, BUT YOU HAVE BONDING AUTHORITY. BONDING

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WELL, DO WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE AS TO HOW TO SERVICE THOSE 2000 CONNECTIONS? OPENING THE INTERCONNECT BETWEEN THE VARIOUS DISTRICTS OUT THERE, WE WOULD BE RELIANT ON THUNDERBIRD AND BLUE RIDGE TO PROVIDE US WATER. BLUE RIDGE CURRENTLY HAS PROBLEMS WITH THEIR WITH THEIR HAVE ADEQUATE. RIGHT NOW BACK UP TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE. THE NEED OF THOSE 2000 CONNECTIONS. THAT'S CORRECT. HAVE WE LOOKED AT ANY OTHER LOCATIONS THAT MIGHT BE AMENABLE TO AND APPROPRIATE FOR THE. THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ANOTHER WATER. WELL AND, YOU KNOW, STORAGE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE. I HAVE I HAVE NOT. THIS WAS ALL ESTABLISHED BEFORE I BEFORE MY TIME WITH THE DISTRICT. AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED WAS TO FOR THE WATER PLANT SITE. AND THE PARK IS SOMETHING THE DISTRICT IS TRYING TO FUND OUT OF THEIR OPERATING COSTS. IF THERE IF THEY NEED TO GO PURCHASE PROPERTY SOMEWHERE ELSE, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW THAT WILL IMPACT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARK. SASHA, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE THIS NEED? I THINK THIS IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT I KNOW THAT THE DISTRICT HAS THAT CAN FIT A WATER PLANT BECAUSE THERE IS SIZE REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU'RE DRILLING A WELL, THERE IS A BUFFER REQUIREMENTS. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER PROPERTY WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT BOUNDARIES WHERE THEY HAVE POTENTIAL TO GO INSTALL A WELL BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE SIX PLUS ACRE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE A WATER FACILITY. RIGHT? AGAIN, JUST LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES AND, AND OPTIONS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, TO FOLLOW TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE SERVICING OF THE CONNECTIONS THAT WE HAVE COMING OUT OF 2020 626 AND THOSE ARE SOME THINGS STAFF WILL RESEARCH ON AND PRESENT IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN WE COME TO PLANNING AND ZONING, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE HAVE NOTED YOUR QUESTIONS. AND THE IDEA IS THAT THE FIRST PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH OR OF THE PROJECT IS YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN A PARKING LOT AND A DRIVEWAY. YES, SIR. AND, AND DRAINAGE AND A DRAINAGE FOR THE ENTIRE AREA. YES. OKAY. AND IS THERE A TIME SCHEDULE FOR WHEN YOU WOULD START SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS IN THIS PROJECT, SUCH AS THE, THE PARK AREA OR THE, THE TANKS. WATER TANKS? UNFORTUNATELY NOT. I DON'T THE DISTRICT IS AGAIN, THAT'S UP TO THE AVAILABLE OPERATING FUNDS THEY HAVE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. RIGHT NOW IT. THIS YEAR THEY HAVE. THEY PARTNERED WITH THE COUNTY AND HAD TREES IN THAT WERE DONATED THAT HAD THOSE PLANTED AND THEY HAD IRRIGATION SYSTEM PUT IN. THEY HAVE BUILT A DECORATIVE FENCE UP FRONT AND THEN A WALL IN THE BACK. AND I BELIEVE IF YOU GO OUT ON SITE, YOU'LL SEE THE DECORATIVE FENCE DOES NOT EXTEND TO THE THE AREA THAT IS PLANNED FOR THE WATER PLANT.

OKAY, OKAY. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE TO COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY AND MAYOR, WHO ANSWERED MY FIRST TWO QUESTIONS. SO THIS QUESTION IS ACTUALLY NOT FOR YOU. CAN YOU GO TO THE SLIDE FOR A SECOND? THIS ONE. NO, SORRY. THE COMMUNICATION SLIDE FOR FOR RESIDENTS THERE IS IT NORMAL PRACTICE TO ONE PUBLISH NOTICES IN A NEWSPAPER AND TWO THE FORT BEND INDEPENDENT IN PARTICULAR, I THINK WE HAVE TO OFFICIALLY PRESENT PUBLISH IN A NEWSPAPER.

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WE'LL MOVE TO COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. OVER HERE. JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

LIVING QUAIL VALLEY. QUAIL VALLEY UTILITY DISTRICT PROBABLY SERVES 3500, MAYBE CLOSE TO 4000 HOMES. AND WE JUST RECENTLY PUT IN A SECOND WELL, ON OUR EXISTING SITE. SO YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT WELLS HAVE TO BE A COUPLE THOUSAND FEET APART. THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT AQUIFERS. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION. WHY CAN'T YOU? BECAUSE AND HONESTLY, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A BUNCH OF DUPLICATE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE WITH STORAGE TANKS AND ALL THAT STUFF. WHEN YOU'VE GOT PERFECTLY GOOD TANKS SITTING ELSEWHERE. I GUESS I'D LIKE TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE BECAUSE THIS IS BEING SOLD AS A CRITICAL NEED, I'D LIKE TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE CRITICALITY OF. THAT IS. A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, WHOEVER THE ENGINEER IS, THE AQUIFER AND WHOEVER'S LOOKED AT ALL THAT, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION BEFORE US BEFORE I LOOK AT THIS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT NOW, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING PERTINENT BECAUSE KIND OF THE WAY EVERYTHING THE COUNCIL HAS SAID, THIS ISN'T THE PLACE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT'S NOT WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR. IT'S NOT WHAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE. SO IN ORDER TO OVERCOME THAT, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME ELEMENT OF CRITICALITY. AND I THINK THAT WOULD THAT WOULD AT LEAST HELP ME. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANKS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY, CHAIRMAN PEARSON. EXCUSE ME. WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS PRETTY MUCH BEEN SAID BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO STATE IS THIS IS JUST A BLATANT LACK OF TRANSPARENCY TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE FACT THAT A SIGNS BEEN UP THERE FOR SOME TIME NOW INDICATING THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PARK, THIS WAS SOMEWHAT OF A BAIT AND SWITCH. WE'LL PUT IT OUT THERE. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PARK THERE. BUT BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO SLIDE SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE. NO ONE'S DISPUTING THE PROPER PLANNING FOR FUTURE GROWTH. WE GET THAT. BUT IT'S JUST A BLATANT LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT EVERYONE IS PRETTY MUCH SAYING THE SAME THING. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME TO SAY. IT DIDN'T SAY FUTURE PARK AND ALSO A WATER FACILITY. IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE AND THE COMMUNITY HAS REALLY BEEN MISLED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY. AND THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU, CHAIR PEARSON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THANK MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMMISSIONER BOLTON. OH, YOU ARE OKAY. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YES. AND JUST TO ADD TO WHAT COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN WAS SPEAKING ON, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF THE SYSTEM, BUT HAVE YOU ALL ACTUALLY PERFORMED SOME TYPE OF FAILURE ANALYSIS TO LET US KNOW HOW FAR WE CAN PUSH THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT DONE FROM YOUR FROM YOUR ESTABLISHMENT, TO KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. IT'S NICE TO SAY IT'S GOING TO LAST. IT'S BEEN WHAT, 20 YEARS YOU SAID OR 25, 25. SO THE ACTUAL QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL USAGE OF THAT SYSTEM RIGHT NOW? OR WHAT IS THE FAILURE RATE? THOSE ARE COMMON QUESTIONS AS FROM YOUR PROFESSIONALISM THAT I WOULD ASK FOR GUIDANCE ON, SIR. RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK MYSELF AND COUNCILMEMBER RILEY ARE STILL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO, MR. BURKE, HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD COST? ROUGHLY BALLPARK TO BUILD THAT TO WATER TOWER. THE THE WATER PLANT? YEAH. WATER PLANT IS PROBABLY A 7 TO $8 MILLION PROJECT. 7 TO $8 MILLION. OKAY. CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SCREEN? OKAY. AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A BOND TO GET THAT MONEY. YOU SAID. YES. IT'S THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT A PORTION OF THAT COULD BE FUNDED FROM EXISTING FUNDS. ONCE WE HAVE THE TREATMENT PLAN ISSUE WORKED OUT. BUT I AM NOT GOING TO PROMISE ANYBODY THAT THAT WHEN YOU SAY A PORTION OF IT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU SAID PORTION OF IT COULD BE FUNDED, NOT THE WHOLE AMOUNT. THE DISTRICT HAS AN ISSUE WITH ITS WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT. AND SO WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT A COUPLE OF MILLIONS, MAYBE MAYBE A MILLION. THAT'S AGAIN, I'M I'M I DIDN'T COME PREPARED TO. NO, NO, I GOT YOU, I GOT YOU.

SO THAT PARK THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST? ROUGHLY THE BILL I AM I'M NOT A PARK DESIGNER. I HAVE NO IDEA. YEAH. SO WE HAVE JASON MANGUM, OUR ASSISTANT CITY

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IF IT TAKES $7 MILLION TO BUILD THAT WATER PLANT, WHICH THEY SAY THEY DON'T HAVE, BUT THEY HAVE A PORTION OF ROUGHLY AROUND MILLION AND ROUGHLY IT COST A MILLION OR UNDER A MILLION TO BUILD THAT PARK. WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT THE PARK SHOULD BE BUILT? SO I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU, JASON, TO THAT MATH, BUT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS YOU CAN'T BUY A LAND AND PUT A SIGN OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A PARK, WHICH WE KNOW THAT PARKING COMING. AND THE INITIAL DEAL WAS TO GET THIS WATER FACILITY BUILT, AND THEN YOU DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A PARK. IT'S STILL PUTTING A LIPSTICK ON A PIG. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE PLAN. WELL, I MEAN, YOU JUST SAID THAT THE PORTION THAT YOU HAVE. SO WHAT I LIKE TO SEE IS IF YOU GUYS CAN BUILD THIS PARK AND THEN SEE WHAT HOW THAT WOULD LOOK. AND BEFORE YOU SEE HOW THIS MAYBE YOU CAN HIDE IT WELL WITH SHRUBS AND THINGS OF THAT TYPE OF NATURE THAT ARE TALL ONTO THE WATER PLANT. BUT WE GOT TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT BECAUSE SIX YEARS FROM 2020 AND COUNTING, AND I'VE NOT SEEN A SINGLE ITEM UP THERE, AND THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR.

YOU GUYS PUT THE SIGN OUT THERE THAT'S SAYING PARK CITY DID NOT. WE DID NOT PUT ANY SIGN ON YOUR PROPERTY THAT'S SAYING A FUTURE PARK IS COMING. SO LET'S GET THAT DONE. OF COURSE, RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER RILEY. WELL THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD FOR ME. SO.

WHAT I NEED FROM YOU GUYS FOR FOR ALL OF US, I'M BUILDING A TIMELINE. I DON'T I DON'T LIKE WHEN THINGS ARE GOING UNDER THE RADAR. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS MEETING. ONE THING IS SAID, BUT THEN THE PUBLIC IS NOT NOTIFIED ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS. WE ALL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND HOW IT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU TELL OUR RESIDENTS SOMETHING, THAT'S WHAT THEY THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTING. WHEN YOU'RE ASKING US TO BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU GUYS TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN SUP FROM THIS BODY, IT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND. WE UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANT IT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW DID WE GET HERE ALL OF A SUDDEN AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.

AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO PRESENT TO ME TO THE BODY OF COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY SO CHOOSE. I WANT TO KNOW WHEN THE LAND WAS PURCHASED. I WANT TO KNOW WHEN THE BOND ELECTION WENT OUT, IF POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THE VOTERS APPROVED THIS BOND. YOU SAID. CORRECT.

AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS, DID WE GIVE ANY PERMITS FOR THE TO BUILD THAT PERIMETER FENCE AROUND THERE? I WANT TO SEE WHAT WHAT WAS IN WRITING WHERE IT STATED THAT THERE'S A FUTURE WATER WELL, WATER PLANT, ANY OF THIS WHERE THIS WAS STATED, WHERE WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE RESIDENTS. AND SO THAT I CAN BUILD A TIMELINE. SO WHEN IT'S TIME FOR ME TO VOTE, I CAN VOTE, EDUCATE, AND THE RESIDENTS CAN KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK AND OUR DUE DILIGENCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEEM TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING ON. AND I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER THOUSANDS THAT ARE WATCHING, OR THESE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO GO BACK AND TELL THEM AS WELL. AND SO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING MAKES THEIR DECISION AND BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE THE BODY OF COUNCIL, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DETAILED INFORMATION. MAYOR ASKED A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THIS, AND I CAN BE HONEST WITH YOU, MR. BURKE, AND THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION UPON YOU, BECAUSE YOU DID SAY THAT YOU CAME IN KIND OF AT THE TAIL END OF THIS. BUT THE THE NUMBERS ARE JUST NOT ADDING UP. THIS THIS IS JUST NOT MAKING SENSE BECAUSE WE THINK THERE'S A PARK COMING. AND I LIVE IN THAT AREA. I DON'T JUST REPRESENT THIS AREA. I LIVE IN THAT AREA. I DRIVE BY THERE EVERY DAY AND I SEE WHEN THE THE LAWN IS NOT MOWED. I GET THOSE CALLS, I GET THEM, AND I HAVE TO TELL THE MUD 26 RESIDENTS THAT THEIR MUD THAT THEY'RE NOT CUTTING THEIR YARD, BUT WE GET BLAMED FOR IT. I TAKE THOSE CALLS AND IT'S IRRITATING. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE TELLING US THAT YOU NEED AN SUP FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BUILD A WATER WELL BEHIND THESE PEOPLE'S HOUSES, AND NO PARK IS COMING, THAT'S A PROBLEM. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'RE BUILDING HERE. AND SO DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE MUD DIRECTORS HERE TODAY? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE ON THE QUEUE, I THINK SHASHI, JUST THE THE NEXT DATE WHERE IT'S GOING. WHERE IS THAT ON THE SCREEN? IS IT JULY 8TH? JULY 8TH. IT'S COMING TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. YEAH. SO I THINK SOME OF THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED HERE, SEE IF YOU CAN GET THOSE FEEDBACK. SO WE'LL BE BACK WITH THOSE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS ALSO, I THINK COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY TALKED ABOUT THE CORE VALLEY AND HOW THEY BUILD THE, THE, THE WHAT IS THAT THE SECOND? WELL, SO LET'S LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS TOO, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, I THINK YOU WILL BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SO BASED OFF OF THIS CONVERSATIONS, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE WORTH WHAT THESE QUESTIONS WERE. SO BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A NEW DISCUSSION, IF THAT IF THAT CAN BE DONE BY THE COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ITEM. NEXT ITEM, BUT I SEE COUNCILMEMBER BROWN MARSHALL. YES, MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. MAYBE LET ME ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY FIRST. CITY ATTORNEY, I'M REALLY GOING TO ASK TO BE GOING TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO FIVE FIVE, 1.071, I THINK IT IS 071071. BUT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST OR. THERE ARE NONE? THERE ARE NONE. OKAY, THEN, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO 551.071. OKAY. OKAY. SO THERE'S BEEN A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER BROWN MARSHALL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER RILEY. AND THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS AS WELL. IF YOU ALL INVITE THEM INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. MAYOR. ALLEY CAT. YES. MEMBER. RILEY. YES. MEMBER. EMERY. YES. MEMBER.

O'DEKIRK. YES. MEMBER. BROWN. MARSHALL. YES. MEMBER. THOMPSON. YE THE TIME IS 7:12 P.M. CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS BACK INTO THE

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AND SHASHI. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS ITEM PERTAINS TO A PUBLIC AND PNC COMMISSIONERS. THIS ITEM PERTAINS TO PUBLIC HEARING TOWARDS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE AS IT PERTAINS TO MASSAGE INSTITUTIONS AND LIQUOR STORES.

AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE WHY THIS CAME ABOUT. WE MADE RECENT CHANGES TO THE SP REGARDING GAS STATIONS. AT THAT POINT, THIS BODY ASKED THAT WE PRESENT SOMETHING RELATED TO THE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT IN LIQUOR LIQUOR STORES, AND THAT'S WHY THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOUR CONSIDERATION. TODAY WE WENT OVER THE CITY COUNCIL'S 2040 VISION AT OUR LAST PRESENTATION, SO I'M GOING TO SKIP THIS THROUGH AGAIN. TONIGHT'S THIS MEETING IS ALL ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENTS, ONLY INPUT AND DISCUSSION. NO ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN. NO STAFF RECOMMENDATION WILL BE GIVEN. THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE NEXT JULY 8TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 17TH. THE. CURRENTLY, THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL TO INCLUDE. SO WHAT. WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS PROPOSING TO DO IS TO REQUIRE AN SUP FOR MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS AND LIQUOR STORES. AGAIN, THIS WILL BE APPLICABLE FOR ANY NEW APPLICATIONS THAT WILL COME FOR THE EXISTING LIQUOR STORES AND MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS. THEY WILL NOT NEED TO GO THROUGH ANY PERMIT CHANGES OR PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED NON-CONFORMING AS LONG AS THE SAME USES THERE. AND EVEN IF IT PASSES FROM ONE

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THIS IS PD CODE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ARE INVOLVED IN THE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES DEVELOPED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT INPUT. THE CURRENT REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WERE ADOPTED IN 2022 IN COORDINATION WITH FORT BEND COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SUPPORT EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY. SO ALREADY, THE MEASURES OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IS QUITE STRINGENT. AGAIN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS MAILED AS REQUIRED, WAS POSTED IN THE NEWSPAPERS, AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING AT PLANNING AND ZONING. NO ACTION IS TAKEN HERE. IT'S TO SOLICIT PUBLIC INPUT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION. IN THE FUTURE. ACTION ITEMS WILL COME TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL AT A FUTURE DATE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. SHASHI.

RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER BROWN, THANK YOU, MAYOR SHASHI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REPORT. I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE JUST KIND OF PASS ON THIS AND GET BACK SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND FEEDBACK FROM LEGAL AND YOUR, YOUR TEAM AS WELL. SHASHI. AND MAYBE WE COME BACK AT A LATER DATE AND RECONVENE WITH THIS INFORMATION. THANK YOU. IS THAT YOUR IS THERE A MOTION NEEDED OR IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION? OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION? NO

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C IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING TEMPORARY DISPLAY SIGNS. WE HAVE. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS ONE FOR PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM SIX. C CITY SECRETARY, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANYONE TO TALK ON THIS ITEM? NO, MR. MAYOR, I HAVE NOT. OKAY. THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS. WE'LL NOW GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SIX C AND WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PRESENTATION BY SHASHI KUMAR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT FOR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATING TEMPORARY DISPLAY SIGNS. AGAIN, THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ONLY INPUT AND DISCUSSION. NO ACTION ITEM NEEDS TO BE TAKEN. THE SAME IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT FOR COUNCIL FOR PLANNING AND ZONING CONSIDERATION AND RECOMMENDATION ON JULY 8TH, AND FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON AUGUST 17TH. CURRENT REGULATIONS TEMPORARY DISPLAY SIGN A PORTABLE SIGN CONSISTING OF BANNERS, SMALL BALLOONS, STREAMERS AND A COMBINATION THEREOF. THIS IS WHEN A BUSINESS IS JUST COMES IN. THEY WANT TEMPORARY BANNERS AND SIGNS. THAT'S WHEN THEY COME GET A PERMIT TO DISPLAY THESE

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THANK YOU, SHASHI. AND IF YOU HAVE COMMISSIONERS, WHO'S GOING TO RAISE THEIR HAND, COUNCILMEMBER BROWN MARSHALL WILL TAKE THE NOTE OF THAT. I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ASKED TO TO SEE TO PUT THIS FOR A JOINT DISCUSSION. AND PART OF THE REASON IS, AS YOU KNOW, I GET OUT THERE WHEN THESE NEW BUSINESSES ARE OPEN AND THEN THEY'RE THEREAFTER, YOU GET OUT THERE FOR 15, 20 DAYS. THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT THAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE IS THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL THAT WE'RE OPEN BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR YOUR ACTUAL SIGN, BUT THERE'S REALLY THEY'RE LIMITED TO WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT THEY CANNOT DO. SO THE REQUEST WAS FROM, FROM BUSINESSES, WHETHER THEY WHEREVER THEY OPEN TO WHAT OUR CITY IS, TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ALLOWING OR THE CITY AND THE COMMISSIONERS ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE A ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING THAT'S PASSED THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO EVEN KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'RE OPEN. CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF TWO, THREE BUSINESSES THAT JUST RECENTLY OPENED THE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE OR IF YOU LIVE RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW IT OR FREDDY'S IN THE FORT BEND TOWN CENTER TWO AND THEN LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET, THE TOASTED YOLK JUST OPENED AND THEN FIREHOUSE SUB, AND THEN THAT OTHER COFFEE PLACE THAT JUST OPENED. IF YOU ARE NOT DRIVING IN FRONT OF IT, YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY THEY'RE NOT HANGING ANY SIGNS. SO THIS IS REALLY JUST TO, FOR, FOR AS COMMISSIONERS AND FOR COUNCIL TO JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT WE DO. OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IN MISSOURI CITY IS WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE AND SLEEP HERE AND THEN GO TO OTHER CITIES, MORE SO IN HOUSTON AND OTHER AREAS TO GO AND WORK. AND THEN THEY COME BACK. SO WE DON'T GET ANY COMPLAINTS FROM EVENING DINNER TIMES FROM NOT NOT THAT MUCH FROM ESPECIALLY RESTAURANTS, BUT AFTERNOON AFTERNOON IS A COMMITMENT TO OUR RESIDENTS. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF POPULATION THAT COME INTO MISSOURI CITY TO WORK, AND THEY LEAVE MISSOURI CITY TO GO TO WORK. SO THESE BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING AND THEY SAY THAT THEY CANNOT JUST DO IT. JUST THE EVENING DINNER ONLY, AND THEN SUSTAIN THEMSELVES. SO THAT'S WHY I'VE ASKED TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT THIS ON AND AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONGST COMMISSIONERS AND AMONGST COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR CITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STANDARD IS IN SUGAR LAND OR STAFFORD OR OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, AND WHAT THEY DO. SO BUT THIS IS THIS IS JUST TO SEE THAT IF WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND YIELD BACK. THERE'S A COUPLE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL THAT'S READY TO SPEAK RECOGNIZING. COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I GUESS THIS IS PRETTY, PRETTY SET AS AS TO ONE PERMIT PER YEAR PER BUSINESS

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AND SO OKAY, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, A TEMPORARY DISPLAY SIGN IS MORE THAN JUST A SIGN. SO IT COULD BE OTHER DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT COMMUNICATE MESSAGES, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT JUST A SIGN. YEAH. SO AT ONE POINT IT COULD BE A SIGN GUY THAT DOES THE LITTLE FLAPPY STUFF. THOSE ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THIS POINT. BUT HE, HE WAS IN THE PICTURE. RIGHT. BUT SO YES, AT DIFFERENT POINTS DURING THE YEAR, IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SIGN. OKAY, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPANDING THIS, LOOKING AT, BUT INSTEAD OF 15 DAY BLOCKS, THEY COULD DO IT.

THEY COULD HAVE IT OUT FOR 60 HOWEVER THEY WANT IT. THEY CAN DO IT UP TO 60 DAYS. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING THEM TO 15 DAY TIME FRAME, BUT THE 60 DAYS FOR A YEAR IS STILL THERE.

CORRECT. AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SO PEOPLE, ANYBODY COULD GO AND GET ONE OF THESE PERMITS AND USE SIGNAGE AT ANY TIME. IT'S JUST THAT 60 DAY, IT'S GOING FROM 50 TO ANY, ANY TIME IN THAT 60 DAY BLOCK. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER. RILEY, ARE YOU CONFUSED? BECAUSE I, I REALLY AM. WE DON'T ALLOW THE INFLATABLE TUBE. SO IS THIS ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS TO ADD THIS TO BE ALLOWABLE USE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU WANT IF YOU ALL WANTED TO ADD IT, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. AGAIN, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE SIGN REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIVING AND ESTHETIC CHARACTERISTICS. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. BUT PEOPLE HAVE APPROACHED THE FOR THOSE KIND OF SIGNS AS WELL. OKAY, SO MY COMMENT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO.

FOR THE INFLATABLE TUBES, IT WAS NO A FEW YEARS AGO. IT'S STILL NO TODAY. MY, MY, HERE'S MY CONCERN BECAUSE I KNOW THAT OUR EXISTING BUSINESSES AND OUR NEW BUSINESSES, THEY DEFINITELY NEED, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE. IT'S A VERY INEXPENSIVE WAY TO DO MARKETING. BUT HERE'S MY CONCERN IS LEAVING UP A SIGN FOR 60 CONSECUTIVE DAYS. BUSINESS OWNERS TYPICALLY WILL FORGET AND THEY'LL JUST SIT OUT THERE AND WHO IS GOING TO REGULATE TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE BUSINESS OWNERS IT ONCE THEY FOLLOW THAT 60 DAYS, DO THEY DO THEY TAKE THESE SIGNS DOWN? IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS GOING TO BE CAPABLE OF ENFORCING THIS? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO THAT DEPARTMENT, COMMUNICATE WITH THIS DEPARTMENT AND SO FORTH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE 52 SIGNS ON TEXAS PARKWAY HIGHWAY SIX? 1092 CARTWRIGHT WITH EVERY BUSINESS THAT HAS THREE SIGNS, THAT'S CORRECT. FOR 60 DAYS, THAT WOULD BE IT. THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL DUTY ON CODE ENFORCEMENT, CORRECT? YES. SO WHICH RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AND VIOLATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS. I DON'T SEE HOW CODE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THIS. 60 DAYS IS A VERY LONG TIME. I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE MAYBE 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS. AND THEN IF THEY NEED TO REAPPLY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE HAVING A GRAND OPENING OR IF YOU'RE HAVING A LABOR DAY SALE, I DON'T THINK YOUR SIGN NEEDS TO BE UP THERE 60 DAYS. IF YOU'RE HAVING A MEMORIAL DAY SALE OR IF YOU'RE HAVING A TACO TUESDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. I DO LIKE THE, THE OKAY WITH THE

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SO I WOULD SAY NO MORE THAN THAN TWO SIGNS. I REALLY LIKE THE ONE SIGN BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN PUT IT IN FRONT OF YOUR BUSINESS AND PROMOTE YOUR BUSINESS. I DON'T LIKE THE THREE SIGNS. I THINK I THINK THAT'S A LOT. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THE MAXIMUM 30 DAYS. THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON THE FEATHERED FLAGS. DO WE HAVE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS WITH HOW TALL CAN THEY BE? THESE THINGS REALLY GO UP. I THINK WE CAN PUT THAT AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. THAT WASN'T PUT IN HERE. WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE DRAFTED, BUT FUTURE ORDINANCE WE CAN AND FEATHER FLAGS ARE CURRENTLY PROHIBITED. SO THERE THERE'S NOT A CURRENT MAX BECAUSE THEY ARE PROHIBITED. THEY'RE CURRENTLY PROHIBITED.

SO TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WERE YOU GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK OR EVEN MAYOR, WERE YOU GETTING A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR THE FEATHERED FLAGS, THE INFLATABLE, OR JUST BANNERS? OR WAS IT YARD SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR ME FROM THE MAIN STREET? BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE IN A SHOPPING CENTER. SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AT 40, YOU KNOW, 40 MILES AN HOUR OR 45, YOU'RE NOT REALLY GET TO SEE IT. SO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE THE FEATHER FLAGS. YES. NOT THE INFLATABLE ONES. BUT I THINK THE REQUEST THAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THE BANNERS, MORE BANNERS AND FEATHER FLAGS. CORRECT. AND I THINK THE BANNERS ARE GREAT. I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, STICK WITH THAT. DEFINITELY. IT'S A NO FOR ME FOR THE INFLATABLE TUBES. YEAH. IT'S JUST WEIRD. AND THEN THE FEATHER FLAGS, IF WE DECIDE TO BUY DECIDES TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS. I WOULD SAY MAXIMUM TWO FOR THOSE BECAUSE IT COULD REALLY GET CONGESTED ON OUR MAIN THOROUGHFARES. AND WHAT CONCERNS ME IS IF THESE THINGS TIP OVER INTO THE STREET OR IF THE WEATHER GETS BAD OR IF IT'S RAINING, YOU KNOW, THIS BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE. AND SO I'M REALLY IN A NO FOR THOSE. BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A NEED, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MAXED TO TWO FOR ME BECAUSE THEN I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CHIEF WHAT HIS THOUGHTS WERE, IS HIS EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO A SAFETY CONCERN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER BROWN MARSHALL. THANK YOU. MAYOR, LET ME GET FOCUSED HERE. OKAY. IT'S NOT EVEN A TWO FOR ME. IT'S GOING TO BE A ONE AND BARELY A ONE, BARELY A ONE. AMEN. 60 DAYS TOO LONG. INFLATABLE TUBES. ABSOLUTELY NOT. MAYOR, ABOUT THE BEST YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF ME IS A FEATHER FLAG. AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT EVEN A FAN OF THE BANNERS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CONTROL THE LANGUAGE. I'VE HAD TO CALL BEFORE CITY MANAGER. EVEN ON WEEKENDS, WHEN BUSINESSES DECIDE TO PUT BANNERS OUT IN THE MIDDLE AND IT MAY SAY NICOTINE SOLD HERE, I MEAN, THAT'S FINE. I WANT THAT BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO PROMOTE WHAT THEY'RE SELLING.

BUT WHAT DOES THE MESSAGE SAY ABOUT WHAT OUR CITY REALLY IS? AND CONSIDERING THAT WE ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT NEEDING THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING EVEN MORE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE OVER ALL THESE OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES, MASSAGE PARLORS AND ALL THIS TYPE OF THINGS, TO ME, JUST US ADDING MORE WILL INVITE THE WRONG TYPE OF ELEMENT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING THOUGH, ABOUT MOST NEW BUSINESSES. THEY DO STRUGGLE, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING. AND I'M I'M ALL FOR TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO HELP THEM. I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THE THAT THIS SIGN IDEA IS THE BEST ROUTE TO GO AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PROPONENT ABOUT WE HAVE TOO MANY TREES THAT COVER OUR BUSINESSES. I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS. SO WHILE WE NEED SIGNS, WE ALSO NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO CONTROL OUR TREES. AT LEAST NOW, ON THE FURTHER END WHERE MOST OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING, WE'RE ABLE TO SEE THOSE BUSINESSES BECAUSE THOSE TREES AND THE TREE LINES ARE NOT AS MATURE, BUT WHERE BUSINESSES ARE IN, THE TREES ARE SO MATURE, I CAN'T I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING OVER THERE. AND SO I THINK TEMPORARILY TEMPORARY SIGNS WILL HELP, BUT I REALLY THINK

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I DON'T BELIEVE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS RUNNING AROUND WHEN A BUSINESS OPENS UP, WHEN THEY PUT THE LITTLE BALLOON THINGS OUTSIDE THEIR BUSINESS DOORS. WE PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN AT BUSINESS OPENINGS WHERE THE GRAND OPENINGS WHERE THEY'VE HAD BALLOON ART. WE'RE NOT RATTING THEM OUT. WE'RE NOT RUNNING AROUND SAYING, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. THOSE THINGS MAY DRAW ATTENTION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FRONTAGE. THAT'S NOT RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU CAN DISPLAY THESE THINGS IN TO BRING THEM INTO THOSE HIDDEN INSET DEVELOPMENTS, SHOPPING CENTERS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS REALLY DOES MUCH. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM, BUT I DON'T I DID NOT REALIZE WE EVEN HAD THIS 15 CONSECUTIVE VERSUS 60 DAYS ANNUAL LIMIT. I THOUGHT WE HAD NOTHING. I HONESTLY THOUGHT WE HAD NOTHING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THAT BIG BONE OF CONTENTION. IF YOU HAVE YOUR SIGN OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, 15 DAYS WHEN YOU DO A GRAND OPENING, MAYBE PERHAPS WE JUST SAY AS A NEW BUSINESS, YOU CAN DO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS, MAYBE 30 DAYS, MAYBE NOT 60. BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A BLANKET TO THE TO EVERY BUSINESS OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES THAT YOU'VE GOT 60 DAYS THAT EVERY WEEKEND, LITERALLY, YOU COULD BE PUTTING SIGNAGE OUT BECAUSE 60, 60 DAYS, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY EVERY SATURDAY, YOU COULD HAVE TACKY SIGNS OUT. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON. THANK YOU. I, I'M IN LINE WITH WITH COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS ON, ON THE THE SIGNS. THERE MAY BE A PROGRAM SOLUTION INSTEAD OF A POLICY ONE WHERE WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE, WE'LL, WE'LL LAND ON A NUMBER. BUT YOU COULD LEVERAGE WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING. I'M LISTENING TO MAYOR'S COMMENTS TO PROMOTE NEW BUSINESSES AND CURRENT BUSINESSES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE TASTE OF MISSOURI CITY EVENT THAT YOU HAVE. IT COULD BE EXPANDED IN SMALLER SUBSETS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. YOU COULD HAVE A NEW BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT.

BUT MY POINT IS TO AND SUGGESTION TO STAFF IS TO LOOK AT PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION THAT PROMOTES BUSINESSES TO MAYOR'S POINT, TO WHERE YOU HAVE MORE UTILIZATION DURING THE DAY THAT WILL SUPPORT THEM. SO YOU MAY NOT EVEN NEED TO PUT OUT HOWEVER MANY SIGNS FOR HOWEVER MANY LONG. IF YOU HAVE PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THE BUSINESS BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB ALREADY. BUT IF YOU LOOK TO EXPAND THAT, YOU COULD HAVE A PROGRAM SOLUTION TO WHERE IT WON'T HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SOLOWAY, JUST A QUICK QUESTION, SHASHI, WILL WE HAVE THE DRAFT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE FOR THIS AND THE OTHER ONES FOR THE UPCOMING PNC MEETING? IN A WEEK AND A HALF, WE WILL HAVE IT. WE DON'T HAVE IT TODAY. BUT FOR THE PNC MEETING, WE WILL HAVE ONE. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR. WE WILL HAVE ONE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN PEARSON. I KNOW THIS MAY SOUND VERY SIMPLE, BUT HAVE WE REALLY HAD A CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'RE ALL SPEAKING FROM A STANDPOINT OF VIEW OF THE CITY, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE. BUT THINK IN TERMS OF A BUSINESS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS THAT THEY HAVE, ESPECIALLY STARTING UP, IS COST. THEY'RE ALREADY CHALLENGED HERE WITH NOT HAVING AS MUCH DAYTIME TRAFFIC. ALSO FACTOR IN YOU HAVE A VERY SMALL WINDOW OF TIME TO INFLUENCE OR GET SOMEONE'S ATTENTION. AND WE DON'T WANT TO OVERSATURATE THE CITY WITH EVERYBODY ADVERTISING A WEEK AND WE GOT A THOUSAND SIGNS OUT, I GET IT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, LET'S BACK UP FOR A MOMENT AND LET'S REALLY THINK FROM A STANDPOINT OF VIEW OF THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO AS A BUSINESS OWNER, TYPICALLY SMALL BUSINESSES IN PARTICULAR, THEY HAVE A MUCH SMALLER BUDGET THAN A STRIP CENTER OR, OR AN ANCHOR

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SO I WOULD AGREE. LET'S TALK WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT WHAT MIGHT BE WORKABLE. AND BECAUSE THE ONE THING WE DO WANT IS THE SMALL BUSINESSES TO SURVIVE. AND THE ONLY WAY THEY'RE GOING TO SURVIVE IS CUSTOMERS. SO SOMEHOW YOU HAVE TO. DRAW THE ATTENTION OF POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS. AND AS FAR AS THE NUMBER, I THINK ONE IS ENOUGH.

I THINK IF YOU START DOING MORE THAN ONE, PRETTY SOON, YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE I THINK WHAT WE DID AT ONE POINT IN TIME IS THAT WE WERE SEEING THAT OUR STREETS WERE CLUTTERED WITH SIGNS AND WE, YOU KNOW, WROTE ORDINANCES THAT THAT TRIED TO LIMIT THAT. SO WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE PEOPLE GO DOWN CARTWRIGHT OR 1092 OR, OR 2234 AND SEE NOTHING BUT FLAGS ALL THE WAY DOWN. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO CONTROL THE LANDSCAPE SO THAT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR. THANK YOU RECOGNIZE AND COUNCILMEMBER BROWN, THANK YOU. MAYOR, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. I'M SEEING IT MORE SO ALONG THE FORT BEND TOLL ROAD AND PRIMARILY AT LAKE OLYMPIA, WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO SEE LIKE THE BILLBOARD TYPE SIGN FOR HOME SALES GO UP. DOES THAT FALL UNDER THIS TYPE OF SIGN DISPLAY, OR DO THEY HAVE TO PURCHASE SIGNS? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, I MEAN REALTORS ARE PUTTING THEIR FACE ON A SIGN AND ADVERTISING THAT THEY ARE REALTORS. I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT

[01:20:01]

YES. SO THE CITY DOES REGULATE A MODEL HOME DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, BUT THOSE TYPES OF ADVERTISING SIGNS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED UNLESS THEY'RE SELLING THE PROPERTY ON WHICH THEY'RE LOCATED. SO WE'RE NOT SELLING THESE PROPERTIES. OKAY. SO THEN THE SO 311 IF YOU ALL DO. NO, NO I'M BROWN MARSHALL THIS IS 311. IT'S A THEY GOTTA GO. THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER RILEY CHASSIS WITH THE WITH THE SIGN. IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED WITH THE ONE FLAG OR THE BANNER SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, DO WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT TYPE OF WORDING CAN GO ON THESE SIGNS? BECAUSE THE COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN MARSHALL'S POINT, THE SIGN THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, NICOTINE SOLD HERE. I KNOW I HAD TO TALK TO ONE OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND JUST MENTIONED TO THEM THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT FOR ONE OF THEIR SIGNS. AND IT SAID LIQUOR SOLD HERE. SO DO WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON OR DO YOU PLAN ON OR IF Y'ALL DON'T, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU DO. BUT DO WE HAVE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT TYPE OF WORDING CAN GO ON THOSE TYPE OF SIGNS? AND IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO THE BACK FOR A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT RELATES TO REGULATING MY. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. WELL WELL THANK YOU ALL. GREAT DISCUSSION.

I THINK THIS ITEM THERE IS AN EXISTING ALREADY THERE WHICH IS 15 DAYS AND MAXIMUM OF 60 CALENDAR DAYS. SO AFTER MAYBE SPEAKING WITH THE SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF PROBABLY THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE, AND I WOULD ASK ALSO PERHAPS LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND SEE WHAT THEIRS IS.

IF, IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY AND IF THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT EVEN UP TO PAR WHERE WE'RE AT, THEN LEAVE IT. BUT IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN OURS, WHICH IS MORE THAN 15 DAYS, OR, YOU KNOW, THEN WE LOOK AT IT, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS IF NO ONE ELSE IS DOING IT. AND WE ALREADY HAVE WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY ANYWAY. BUT I THINK AND THIS IS, AGAIN, PERCEPTION, IT MAY NOT BE REALITY IS WHEN A CEO IS GIVEN, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF A HANDBOOK OR SOMETHING FOR THESE BUSINESSES TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT YOU HAVE 15 DAYS IN A 60 CALENDAR DAYS THAT YOU CAN PUT UP THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SHOW UP ON DAY 15 OR SOMETHING, THEY'RE OPEN AND THEY'RE TELLING US, CAN WE PUT SOMETHING UP HERE TOO? SO IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF WHAT WE HAVE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY REDO AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT OUR SOME OF THESE STRUGGLES AND STRATEGIES ARE FOR THESE BUSINESSES. AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S ALREADY THERE FOR 15 DAYS, BECAUSE AMONGST THE DISCUSSION, I THINK SOME OF US WERE US AS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. PNC WERE SURPRISED THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IF WE DON'T KNOW, I'M EVEN SURPRISED HOW MANY BUSINESSES THAT KNOWS THAT. SO MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE A GREAT START AT THAT POINT JUST TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE WHEN THEY RECEIVE A CEO, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO MOVING FORWARD? IT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION, BUT IF NOT, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THESE GUYS ARE COMING INTO BUSINESS. OUR OUR SALES TAX IS GETTING FLAT AND FLAT AND FLAT. AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO INCREASE OUR SALES TAX. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN REDUCE SOME REDUCE DOWN ON OUR PROPERTY TAXES. BUT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS SOMETHING'S GOT TO GO UP. AND I THINK ULTIMATELY THAT'S THE GOAL. THAT'S THE GOAL OF EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE THAT SERVES ON ANY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OR EVEN ON COUNCIL. SO ALL I'M JUST WAS TRYING TO PUT OUT THERE, IT WAS SAYING, CAN WE IS THERE ANY TOOL OUT THERE THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP THESE PEOPLE TO SHOW THEIR THEIR IT'S WORKING SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. I THINK YOU'RE GOOD. IT TAKES THEM LITERALLY TWO WEEKENDS FOR THEM. SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN SAYING THAT PEOPLE EVEN KNOW THAT THEY'RE OPEN. SO I'VE ASKED THEM, DO YOU WHAT KIND OF MARKETING THAT

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SO MY OBJECTIVE IS TO, I THINK I'VE HEARD SOMEONE SAY IS TO SHOW THAT WE'RE ALSO BUSINESS FRIENDLY AS WELL. SO THAT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE ON THE COMMISSION? RIGHT SIDE. LEFT SIDE. ALRIGHT. ANYONE? NO ONE ELSE ON THAT COUNCIL. SO THE TIME IS 7:50 P.M. WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL. IF I MAY REALLY QUICKLY RECOGNIZE SOPHIE. SAKURA, WHO'S THE LEGAL JOB? SHADOW STUDENT. SHE'S A GRADUATE OF BRIDGEPOINT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.