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MONDAY, JULY 27TH, 2026. WE'LL NOW CALL THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JOINT MEETING TO ORDER AT 6 P.M. AT NUMBER TWO IS A ROLL CALL OF CITY COUNCIL QUORUM. I GO AHEAD AND CERTIFY THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM OF CITY COUNCIL. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU VERIFY THE QUORUM OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION? I CERTIFY WE HAVE A QUORUM OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS. WELL, THAT WAS A QUORUM. ITEM NUMBER FOUR, OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. CITY SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST TO FOR ANY ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA? NO, MR. MAYOR, WE DO NOT DO NOT. OKAY. FIVE IS CONSENT. AGENDA
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FIVE A IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 22ND, 2026. IS THERE A CALLING FOR A MOTION? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. LET'S SEE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. LET'S GO INCLUDE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS. MAYOR. YES. MEMBER. RILEY. YES. MEMBER. EMERY. YES. MEMBER. O'DEKIRK.YES. MAYOR. PRO TEM KLAUSER. YES. MEMBER. BROWN. MARSHALL. YES. MEMBER. THOMPSON. YES.
COMMISSIONER. PEARSON. YES. COMMISSIONER. ARMSTRONG. YES. COMMISSIONER. SULLOWAY. YES.
COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. ATWOOD. ATWOOD. I'M SORRY. YES. COMMISSIONER BOLDEN. YES. THE
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MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP TO ITEM SEVEN. WE'RE GOING TO GO. THE TIME IS 6:02 P.M. AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE, 1.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE THAT THE .CITY COUNCIL AND JOINED PNC MEETING IS BACK INTO THE INTO THE JOINT MEETING. WE'LL TAKE
[a. Public Hearing - To receive a presentation on possible amendments to e...]
ON. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS. I WILL NOW GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM SIX. A CITY SECRETARY, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY REQUEST FROM ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SIX A NO, MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE NOT. OKAY. THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENTS. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM FOR SIX A, AND WE'LL GO TO ITEM SIX B, CORRECT. SIX B, WHICH IS ALSO A PLANNED PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR AGAINST A REQUEST FROM KIMBERLY HORN AND ASSOCIATES FOR PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS ON AN APPROXIMATE 8.51 ACRES TRACK OF LAND TO ALLOW FOR DETENTION AND UTILITY USES. AND TO THE EXTENT SUCH ZONING DEVIATES FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE AND CHARACTER MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROVIDE TO PROVIDE FOR AN AMENDMENT THEREFROM, WE HAVE SHASHI KUMAR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS. I THINK I WILL MAKE THIS PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SASHI. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS. EVENING. WE RECEIVED A ZONING APPLICATION FOR AN APPROXIMATE EIGHT AND A HALF ACRE TRACT OF LAND LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF TRAMMEL, FRESNO AND VICKSBURG BOULEVARD. CURRENTLY, THE SITE IS CLASSIFIED AS SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT. THIS APPLICATION IS FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO DEVELOP A DETENTION POND. THE EIGHT AND A HALF ACRE DETENTION POND WOULD SERVE AS A MASTER DETENTION POND FOR THE AREA AND SUPPORT APPROXIMATELY 40 ACRES TOTAL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. STAFF HAS MET THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND HAVE RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR PROTEST, AND STAFF WILL NOT BE PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING AS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ONLY. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?[00:05:17]
NO PROBLEM. SIX B. ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY. WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BRING[a. Receive a Presentation and Hold a Discussion - Planned Development Dis...]
ITEM SIX A BACK BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARINGS. BUT THERE IS A PRESENTATION BY SHASHI KUMAR ON THAT. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO SIX B. ALL RIGHT. SORRY FOR THAT CONFUSION.GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS. AND CHAIR, I WILL BE PRESENTING ON ITEM SIX A, WHICH IS. TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO TONIGHT, STAFF IS SEEKING POLICY GUIDANCE ON AMENDMENTS TO REMOVE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY USES FROM UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES. AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT IT'S FROM UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES AND ANY ADDITIONAL POLICY CONSIDERATIONS STAFF SHOULD EVALUATE BEFORE SCHEDULING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGAIN. IN THIS JOINT MEETING, NO ACTION IS REQUESTED AT THIS TIME. ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THESE PLANNED DISTRICT ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE THE STANDARD PUBLIC HEARING AND THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT PROCESS. SO THIS IS JUST FOR DISCUSSION AND ANY KIND OF POLICY GUIDANCE FROM THIS BODY UNDER CURRENT REGULATIONS, PLACES OF ASSEMBLY IS GOVERNED UNDER SECTION 15 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. PLACES OF ASSEMBLY PERTAINS TO FACILITIES USED FOR EDUCATIONAL, CULTURAL, RELIGIOUS, RECREATIONAL, CIVIC, SOCIAL, FRATERNAL AND SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONAL ACTIVITIES UNDER PLACE OF ASSEMBLY. CURRENTLY, ALL THESE USES ARE ALLOWED. WHEN A ZONING DISTRICT PERMITS A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, IT GENERALLY ALLOWS A VARIETY OF ASSEMBLY USES WITHIN THAT LAND USE CATEGORY, WHICH I JUST MENTIONED. SO EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS. THERE ARE CURRENTLY A NUMBER OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS AND SUPS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 118 PDS THAT THIS BODY HAS PASSED, PASSED THE ORDINANCE AND PER STAFF RESEARCH, THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN PDS WHERE. PLACES OF ASSEMBLY ARE ALLOWED. IN TERMS OF SUPS, WE HAVE 220 APPROVED AND THERE ARE 61 ACTIVE SUPS. AND I ALSO HEAR THAT THERE ARE SEVEN SUPS WHERE PLACES OF ASSEMBLY ARE ALLOWED. NOW WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS OF HAVING THESE PLACES OF ASSEMBLY WITHIN THIS PLANT IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS AND SUPS THE PROS ARE OR MAKING IT RESTRICTIVE IN TERMS OF REQUIRING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THIS BODY WILL GET THE OPTION TO SEE IF THE PROPOSED USE IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. LAND USE, VISION AND REDEVELOPMENT GOALS, AND THIS WILL FOCUS ON ONLY UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES. IT WILL GIVE US GREATER CERTAINTY REGARDING FUTURE LAND USE EXPECTATIONS IN TARGETED AREAS, AND FACILITATES NECESSARY UPDATES TO EXISTING PDS AND SUPS. ON THE FLIP SIDE OF IT, IF WE WANT TO REMOVE PLACES OF ASSEMBLY POTENTIALLY FROM THIS PDS AND SUPS, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS. THERE IS SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS. THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL OBJECTION BY PROPERTY OWNERS. THEY MAY CLAIM THAT THEY HAVE THE VESTED RIGHTS, AND IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A LOT OF STAFF EVALUATION IN TERMS OF GOING THROUGH EACH AND EVERY PD AND SUP TO SEE WHICH ONE WE CAN ALLOW THIS PLACE OF ASSEMBLY USE. SO THOSE ARE THE PROS AND CONS OF GOING THROUGH THIS PD AMENDMENT PROCESS. SO THE EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS WE HAVE VARIOUS PDS AND SUPS IN DIFFERENT PROCESS. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED. SOME ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SOME ARE GOING THROUGH THE PREDEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SOME HAVE BEEN SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN PLANTED. SOME OF THEM ARE IN THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS AND SOME HAVE NOT YET BEEN DEVELOPED. I THINK OUR FOCUS IS ON PROPERTIES THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN DEVELOPED. SO AGAIN,
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TONIGHT'S ITEM FOR YOU IS TO ASK THE QUESTION, WOULD WOULD THIS BODY BE INTERESTED IN AMENDMENTS TO REMOVE THE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY FROM THE PD, S AND SUPS FOR UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES OR ANY OTHER FEEDBACK THIS BODY CAN GIVE? SO WE CAN BRING THIS ITEM BACK FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR P AND Z AND CITY COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SHASHI. SO WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL SIGNING UP FOR ON OUR CUES. BUT IF YOU'RE A P AND Z. RAISE YOUR HAND. MAYOR PRO TEM WILL TAKE YOUR NAME AND WE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION. SHASHI, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION IN HERE.SO. GO BACK TO IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT PRESENTATION AND AND THAT NOT, NOT NOT THAT.
YEAH. ONE MORE. NO, THAT WAS IT. IT'S ALRIGHT. THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT SHOWED. IF IT'S GONE THROUGH THE PREDEVELOPMENT. WHERE IS THAT SLIDE THERE. IT SHOWS ALL THE. YEAH. RIGHT. NO THE CHECK MARKS THE PRO. YEAH. NO THE CHECK MARKS OF. THERE IT IS. SO UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
PREDEVELOPMENT REVIEW. PLATTED PERMITTED. IF THEY CAME BEFORE AND THEY PUT UP AN APPLICATION, BUT THEY HAVEN'T DONE NOTHING WITH IT FOR SIX MONTHS. EIGHT MONTHS. I KNOW WE WERE LOOKING AT A RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTIONS ARE NOT DONE AND WE WERE FOLLOWING THE STATE LAW FOR THAT. SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO OR JUST A MATTER OF THE FACT THAT THIS MIGHT BE FOR YOU AS WELL? IF THEY CAME, THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO HAVE A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY EVENT CENTER, AND IT'S GONE THROUGH PRE-DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, BUT NOTHING SINCE THEN HAS MOVED FORWARD. IS THERE A TIME CAP ON BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD? ONCE THIS NOW IS REQUIRING FOR SUP TO BE PLACED IN, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO. IF HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING, WILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND THEN FILE FOR AN S P OR NOT. SO THIS WOULD APPLY TO NEW APPLICATIONS. SO IF THERE IS CURRENTLY A PENDING APPLICATION FOR A PROJECT THAT COULD BE A PLAT, THAT COULD BE BUILDING PERMIT OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF PERMIT, THEN THE RULES THAT WERE IN PLACE AT THE TIME THAT APPLICATION WAS FILED WOULD APPLY TO THE PROJECT. SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. BUT IF THERE IS A NEW APPLICATION, IF YOU ALL DECIDE TO DO THIS AND THERE IS A NEW APPLICATION FOR SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY DEVELOPMENT, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. OKAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF THEY IF THEY GO THROUGH P AND Z, RIGHT, PNC COULD ALWAYS PUT THAT INTO A PD, CORRECT. IF IF IT WAS ALREADY EXISTING. CORRECT. SURE. SO IF THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING IF THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING USE APPLICATION FOR APPLICATION, THEN THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO THEM. THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO THAT. BUT THEN THEY WOULD THEY COULD ALWAYS FORCE IT INTO A TO A PD TO HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WANT ANYWAY. CERTAINLY. YES. SO THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THAT, ANY OF THE SEVEN PLOTS THAT THAT YOUR OFFICE IS SEEING TODAY THAT IS JUST SITS THERE WITH THE GENERAL PLACE OF ASSEMBLY IS THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S MAKING IT REQUIRED FOR AN SUP, CORRECT.
SO IF THERE'S A PLOT APPLICATION, THEN THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO THAT. IF IT WERE IF THIS WERE PASSED. HOWEVER IF THERE IS A A NEW APPLICATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO YIELD BACK RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER RAMOS. THANK YOU. SHASHI ON AND POSSIBLY EVEN E JOYCE IN TERMS OF OUR ORDINANCE THAT SETS THE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, I BELIEVE I SAW THAT ON SLIDE.
IT'S THE ONE WHERE IT SAYS CURRENT REGULATIONS PLACE OF ASSEMBLY SECTION 15 ZONING ORDINANCE IS THIS ARE THESE OUR DEFINITIONS OR IS THIS ARE THESE DEFINITIONS ALLOWED BY STATE AND SET BY THE STATE? THIS THESE ARE CITY DESCRIPTIONS OF PLACES OF ASSEMBLY. OKAY. CITY DESCRIPTIONS. YES. OKAY. DOES THE STATE PROVIDE FOR ANY TYPE OF. DESCRIPTION OF WHAT PLACES OF ASSEMBLIES ARE. THERE AREN'T ANY REQUIRED ZONING DEFINITIONS BY THE STATE FOR PLACES OF ASSEMBLY. OKAY. AND THEN ONE MORE QUESTION TAGGED ON TO THIS PORTION. SHASHI, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WITH REGARDS TO THE PROS AND CONS OF OF MAKING A CHANGE, YOU STATED THAT MAKING A CHANGE OR DOING SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT WITH THIS
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ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE A HEAVY STAFF LIFT. WELL, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER, WHAT THE STATEMENT THAT I MADE WAS POTENTIALLY, IF THIS BODY CONSIDERS THAT, LET'S GO LOOK AT A P D AND SEE IF PLACES OF ASSEMBLY FITS WITHIN THE PD. THEN WE GOT TO GO LOOK AT THE LAND USE WHAT'S SURROUNDING THAT. USE WHAT'S CODIFIED IN THE PD AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND ALL THOSE THINGS. AND COME BACK. AND AS I SAID, THERE ARE SO MANY PDS HERE IN THE CITY AND SO MANY SUPS HERE, IT'S NOT LIKE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE PD S AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF WHERE WE THINK THIS PLACE OF ASSEMBLY FITS. AND AGAIN, WITHIN THE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. AMONG THEM. IT COULD BE A SCHOOL, IT COULD BE A CHURCH, IT COULD BE AN EVENT CENTER. SO STAFF HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS OF EACH INDIVIDUAL PD S AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GETTING FROM THIS BODY, WE'LL GO BACK AND DO THAT AND PRESENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU. OKAY. I KNOW SOMETIME BACK WE SPOKE ON PLACING TIME FRAMES AND PROVIDING LETTERS FOR OUR UTILITY CAPACITIES. WHEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS THAT COME BEFORE US AND WE APPROVE THEIR PROJECTS, BUT IT MAY TAKE THEM FIVE, SEVEN, TEN YEARS BEFORE IT HITS THE GROUND. TO ME, THIS ALMOST SEEMS SIMILAR TO THAT TYPE OF A SITUATION.AND SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS, WHILE WE CONSIDER THIS, IF THERE IS A WAY TO PLACE TIME CAPS, AS YOU STATED ON THESE CERTAIN SUPS GIVING THEM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO DEVELOP, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER, OR WE CAN DO THE RESEARCH AND COME BACK ON THAT ONE. CERTAINLY THE CITY WOULD IF. AND THE CITY HAS IN CERTAIN ORDINANCES, PLACED TIME CAPS FOR OR TIMELINES FOR DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULES. SO THE CITY COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF HAVING A DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN ZONING ORDINANCES. WE WOULD STILL, OF COURSE, HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS IF THERE WAS A DESIRE TO CHANGE THE USES THAT ARE AUTHORIZED BY EACH DOCUMENT.
BUT YES, IF THAT WAS THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO LIMIT PLACES OF ASSEMBLY USES TO, I DON'T KNOW, TWO YEARS OR FIVE YEARS, WHATEVER. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M SUGGESTING THAT, SO THAT I CAN BE VERY CLEAR, IS TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP UP WITH DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPMENT IS ALMOST TO ME LIKE TECHNOLOGY, IT MOVES SO FAST. AND SO IF WE DON'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND MAKE A DETERMINATION ON, HEY, IS THIS STILL A GREAT FIT FOR THIS LAND, THEN WE MAY HAVE SOME MISSED OPPORTUNITIES THERE. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY MY RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. THANK YOU. SO IN SOME OF THESE PDS, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT SPECIFIES IT'S VERY SPECIFIC THAT IT'S A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY. IT MIGHT SAY THAT WE WANTED A CINEMA OR IT MIGHT SAY THAT WE WANTED SOMETHING ELSE. RIGHT. SO IS IT EXPLICIT THAT IT'S AN ASSEMBLY? IT IS NOT EXPLICIT IN ALL OF THEM. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE, WE PULL IT OUT SO THAT WE CAN CONTROL MORE BROADLY. WE MIGHT NOT NEED A CINEMA ANYMORE. LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN MARSHALL JUST SAID THAT WE CAN SHIFT GEARS AND LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE LENS OF A PD VERSUS JUST WHATEVER IT'S, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY DESIGNATED. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO.
WE DO HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY LITTLE PIECES OF LAND THAT ARE STRICTLY ZONED AS SCHOOL OR EDUCATIONAL OR RELIGIOUS. AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT THIS THIS IS SEPARATE FROM WE HAVE SOME SPECIFIC ZONING AND THEN WE HAVE THESE. SO THOSE THAT ARE PULLING. AND I BELIEVE SHASHI HAS A SLIDE UP. THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED FOR EDUCATIONAL PLACES OF ASSEMBLY. OKAY. SO THOSE WOULD ALSO BE UNDER REVIEW AS WELL. OKAY. SO IF THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY ZONED I'M GOING TO USE PARKS EDGE FOR AN EXAMPLE. THE FORT BEND ISD OWNS SOME PROPERTY IN THERE. AND WE KNOW THAT IT WE PROBABLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE AREA ANYMORE. THEY'RE SHIFTING THEIR THOUGHT. SO IT'S THAT TYPE OF PROPERTY, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT UNDER THIS SAME REGULATION. YES, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY. OKAY. ORDINANCE. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
MAYOR PRO TEM, ANYONE FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SO I PLACE MYSELF BACK ON AGAIN. SO JUST SO THAT TIME CAPS GOES BACK TO THE PROPERTY OF SCHOOLS, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IS
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ON THE CORNER OF OIL FIELD ROAD AND RIVERSTONE BOULEVARD, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BACK IN 2008, 2009. AND THEN THEY TURNED IT INTO A RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT. SO YOU'RE RIGHT VERY WELL THAT THESE LANDS ARE OWNED BY SCHOOL SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THEY AFTER A WHILE, THEY CHANGE. AND WHEN THEY CHANGE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALSO RESTRICTED WHERE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING ELSE WHERE THEY TURN AROUND AND SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE. AND THAT NEVER CAUGHT OUR RADAR WHERE AT THAT POINT WE'LL SAY WE HAVE ALL SEVEN, BUT EXCEPT FOR THESE TWO. SO I THINK THAT TIME CAPS IS PROBABLY MORE BENEFICIAL IN THIS SITUATION. OKAY. NO ONE ELSE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO TO SUMMARIZE, I THINK THIS BODY WANTS IT TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO PNC AND COUNCIL, ALONG WITH THE TIME CAPSULE OF WHEN THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF THAT IT SHOULD EXPIRE. SO WE WILL FOLLOW THROUGH THAT ONE. WHEN WILL THAT BE? I CAN'T PUT A DATE, BUT I THINK WE'LL BRING BACK PROBABLY BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE. SO I'LL GO TO PNC FIRST. IT'LL GO TO PNC FIRST. COME BACK TO COUNCIL. YES, COUNCIL.OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM SIX B. I READ THAT,
[b. Public Hearing - To receive public comments for or against a request b...]
BUT I'M GOING TO READ IT AGAIN. PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST A REQUEST BY KIMBERLY HORN AND ASSOCIATES FOR PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ON AN APPROXIMATE 8.51 ACRE TRACT OF LAND TO ALLOW A DETENTION AND UTILITY USES. AND TO THE EXTENT SUCH ZONING DEVIATES FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE AND CHARACTER MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROVIDE FOR AN AMENDMENT. THEREFORM. SO CITY SECRETARY DID DID DID I OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING OR NO, OR DID I? YOU DID OPEN IT AND THERE WERE NO COMMENTS AND YOU DID CLOSE. SO WE CLOSED IT. OKAY, SO NOW WE GO TO STAFF. GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE RECEIVED A ZONING APPLICATION FOR AN APPROXIMATE EIGHT AND A HALF TRACT SITE LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF TRAMMEL, FRESNO ROAD AND VICKSBURG BOULEVARD. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS SD SUBURBAN DISTRICT. THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO DEVELOP A DETENTION POND. THE EIGHT AND A HALF ACRE DETENTION POND WOULD SERVE AS A MASTER DETENTION POND FOR THE AREA AND SUPPORT APPROXIMATELY 40 ACRES TOTAL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.STAFF HAS MET THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR PROTEST, AND STAFF WILL NOT BE PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING AS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ONLY. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. ANY ANY MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. ANY MEMBERS OF. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS A QUICK ONE. ITEM SIX C IS A PUBLIC HEARING
[c. Public Hearing - To receive a presentation on Planned Development Dist...]
TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. NUMBER 96, PROPOSED SITE PLAN.I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM SIX. C CITY SECRETARY, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO, MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE NOT. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. SIX C AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. SO RECOGNIZING SHASHI KUMAR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER GOOD EVENING. AGAIN.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 96. JUST TO ORIENT YOU, THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY AND FORT BEND TOLL ROAD. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS A KEY GATEWAY CORRIDOR TO THE CITY, AND I THINK IT PRESENTS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. JOEL SCOTT, WHO'S HERE, ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO'S HERE, CONTINUES TO ADVANCE LONG TERM PLANNING FOR THE AREA. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS REQUESTED TO SHARE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND A CONCEPT PLAN WITH THIS BODY. AND THIS DISCUSSION IS FOCUSED ON JUST LONG TERM PLANS AND CONCEPTS ONLY. NO ACTION IS REQUESTED. AND THIS IS AGAIN FOR DISCUSSION ONLY TODAY. PD 96 IS APPROXIMATELY 115 ACRES OF LAND, WHICH IS DEPICTED IN THAT EXHIBIT THERE. IT'S ADJACENT TO PARK SIZE ON THE NORTH OLYMPIA ESTATES AND DRY CREEK VILLAGE ON THE SOUTH. AGAIN, A SIGNIFICANT GATEWAY AND ENTRY POINT TO THE CITY AND PRESENTS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
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OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AS WELL. TRANSPORTATION ACCESS, OF COURSE. IN THE FRONT IS LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY TO THE SOUTH, BUT I THINK THE KEY THING IS TO PROVIDE ACCESS OFF OF FORT BEND TOLLWAY. CURRENTLY, THERE IS AN EXIT RAMP, WHICH IS KIND OF IN THE THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH FORT BEND TOLL ROAD AUTHORITY TO MOVE THE EXIT RAMP FURTHER NORTH, WHICH WILL ENTAIL CREATING AN ACCESS OR A FEEDER ROAD, WHICH WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO A LOT OF THE FRONTAGE PROPERTY ALONG FORT BEND TOLL ROAD AND WILL OPEN UP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. I UNDERSTAND THAT FORT BEND TOLL ROAD HAS AGREED TO IT. IN FACT, THEY'VE AGREED TO PROVIDE THREE POINTS OF ACCESS AFTER THIS SERVICE ROAD HAS BEEN BUILT AND THE EXIT RAMP MOVED FURTHER NORTH. IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE'S ALREADY A DETENTION IN PLACE TO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT. SOME PIECE OF THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN WITHIN MISSOURI CITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE. AND SOME PIECE OF THIS PROPERTY IS IN FORT BEND, MUD NUMBER 48. ALTHOUGH THE UTILITY CAPACITY WATER SEWER FOR THIS AREA WOULD BE COME FROM THE CITY'S MUSTANG BAYOU SERVICE AREA. PD NUMBER 96 WAS CRAFTED IN 2014 AS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THE PHASE ONE OF IT IS PRETTY MUCH DONE. IT ENTAILS RETAIL COMMERCIAL OF UP TO ABOUT 15,000FTā !S AND 350 UNITS OF MULTIFAMILY DWELLING, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS ALEXAN APARTMENTS. PHASE TWO IS KIND OF THE PIECE OF DISCUSSION TODAY. AGAIN, IT ENTAILS MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS PD ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL OFFICE CONCERT PERFORMANCE, ALL OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATERS, AND MEDICAL MEDICAL CARE FACILITIES.THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN, WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS SHARED WITH US, WHICH IS YOU CAN SEE TO THE RIGHT THERE, THEY WANT TO BUILD MEDICAL CAMPUS OR AN HOSPITAL SITE, AN EVENT CENTER, A HOTEL SUPPORTING PARKING, COMMERCIAL SERVICES AND COMPLIMENTARY AMENITIES. AND AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN. THINGS CAN CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE APPLICATION IS ACTUALLY MADE.
SO WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY AND WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? SO AT THIS POINT, THE APPLICANT OR THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT GIVEN A FORMAL APPLICATION TO THE CITY. ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE NORMAL PROCESS, WHICH IS TO COME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE AND I BELIEVE THAT'S MR. JOEL SCOTT AND TIM GREGORY. IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. I THINK HE WANTS TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT I ALREADY TOLD YOU ABOUT WHAT THIS PROPOSED CONCEPT IS AND WHAT THE FUTURE PLANS ARE. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO WELCOME JOEL SCOTT TO THE PODIUM. YES, SIR. YOU CAN BE THERE. ALTHOUGH WHICH SIDE OF THE BASE HERE? YEAH, I CAN WE CAN USE THAT TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE. OH, OKAY. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION AND CHAIR FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, BUT NOT. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. I WAS A YOUNG MAN WHEN I STARTED ON THIS PROJECT BACK IN 2012. AND ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE OLD NOW? YEAH, RIGHT. BUT THIS IS PARKWAY CROSSING ORIGINAL. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. THE ORIGINAL ACQUISITION HERE. AND THERE MAY BE ANOTHER EXHIBIT THAT THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS ALL OF THAT. BUT THE OH, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY. SORRY. HERE WE GO. YEAH. BRING ME BACK UP HERE. SO JUST THEY WERE HANDED OUT TO THE RIGHT. NOW THERE WE GO. THAT THAT'S IT.
YEAH. AND SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE ANYWAY. WE ACQUIRED ABOUT 465 ACRES OF LAND HERE BACK IN 2015 AND WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE THERE. WE DIVIDE IT UP INTO TWO PDS ONES, PD 95, WHICH WE CREATED FOR PARK'S EDGE AND ALSO PD 96, WHICH WAS FOR ALL THE MIXED USE LAND WE HAVE THAT SASHI MENTIONED EARLIER. SO THERE'S ABOUT 115 ACRES OR SO IN THAT.
AND SINCE THEN, I MEAN, WE HAD SOME JOINT DEVELOPMENT AND D.R. HORTON ENDED UP WITH IT. WE HAD JOINT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND SOME COST SHARING AGREEMENTS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF, AND CREATED A DISTRICT AND DID ALL THE PARK'S EDGE DEVELOPMENT. IT WENT VERY WELL FOR THEM. SO THEY DID THE RESIDENTIAL. WE SOLD ABOUT 352 ACRES TO THEM AND ESSENTIALLY
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KEPT THE REST OF THE LAND AND HAVE DONE SOME DEVELOPMENT PHASE ONE AND HAVE A PHASE TWO PLAT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON AND HAVE DONE SOME SALES, WHICH I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH REAL QUICKLY, BUT KIND OF ISOLATING IN A LITTLE CLOSER ON THE MIXED USE. THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXHIBIT TO PROBABLY LOOK AT. AND WE'VE EARLY ON, WE DONATED A SITE TO THE CITY WHICH BECAME CITY OF MISSOURI CITY FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX, AND WE SOLD SOME LAND FOR A RESIDENTIAL HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE MERITAGE IS BUILDING NOW AND DOING QUITE WELL. KIND OF AN URBAN PRODUCT, HIGHER DENSITY TYPE PRODUCT, AND ALSO SOME MULTIFAMILY. THE ELECTION AT PARKWAY CROSSING THAT I'M TOLD I'VE DONE, DID A TOUR ON BEHALF OF THE POA RECENTLY AND TOLD THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL THERE AND, AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. SO THE NEXT PART, WE ALSO HAVE SOLD A RETAIL CENTER THAT FRONTS ON LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY. WE INITIALLY DID A 7-ELEVEN DEAL THIS THE SOUTHEAST CORNER AND THEN ANOTHER RETAIL CENTER AND THEN A SELF-STORAGE USE ON THE BACK PROPERTY, WHICH IS ALL DEVELOPED OUT NOW. AND THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A P O MASTER POA THAT, THAT ALL OF THAT LAND IS INVOLVED IN AND HAS TO ADHERE TO RESTRICTIONS AND TO BUILDER GUIDELINES OR COMMERCIAL BUILDER GUIDELINES, THAT SORT OF THING. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN A REALLY HIGH ARCHITECTURAL AND COMPLIANCE STANDARDS FOR, FOR ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ON THERE. AND I'LL JUMP AHEAD. REALLY WHAT WE HAVE LEFT, AS SASHI MENTIONED, THAT'S IN MMD OR MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, ALL WITHIN THE PD 96 IS ABOUT 42 ACRES ON THE CORNER. AND THAT'S THE TRACK THAT HAS THE FRONTAGE ON FORT BEND TOLLWAY. AGAIN, WE HAD APPROACHED THEM A FEW YEARS BACK. WE GOT THEM TO APPROVE THE RELOCATION OF THE OFF RAMP. AS YOU KNOW, FORT BEND TOLLWAY IS ESSENTIALLY A DENIED ACCESS ARTERY. AND SO IN ORDER TO KIND OF FRONT LOAD THE TOLLWAY, WE HAD TO CHANGE THAT UP A BIT IN ORDER. IT'S JUST AN OFF RAMP DOWN THERE AT LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO RELOCATE THE THE OFF RAMP FOR LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY AND MOVE IT ABOUT A THIRD OF A MILE NORTH, CREATING A SERVICE ROAD WHICH DOESN'T EXIST TODAY. AND BY DOING THAT, IT ALLOWED FOR DIRECT ACCESS TO THE FORT BEND TOLLWAY, WHICH DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE. SO WE GOT THREE POINTS, THREE POINTS OF ACCESS APPROVED BY THE TOLL ROAD AUTHORITY. SO THAT REALLY CHANGED THE GAME. AND THEN WE STARTED BY WORKING THROUGH THE CITY OVER THE YEARS WITH WITH THE MAYOR AND OTHERS AND ALSO WITH JENNIFER, WE CAME UP WITH WHAT WE THINK IS A REALLY GOOD MIXED USE PLAN THAT HAD FOUR PRIMARY COMPONENTS TO IT. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE THE DESIRE FOR A HOTEL AND ESPECIALLY FOR AN EVENT CENTER.WHAT YOU SEE IN PURPLE THERE ON THAT EXHIBIT IS. YEAH, THAT'S IT. THAT ONE. YEAH. THAT'S FINE.
OH THAT'S OKAY. THERE'S TWO VERSIONS HERE, BUT THE PURPLE THERE. THANK YOU. THE PURPLE THERE IS A HOTEL AND EVENT CENTER. AND THE KEY THERE. OFTENTIMES THESE BECOME PRIVATE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE THERE'S BEEN A FEW EXAMPLES OF THAT RECENTLY.
CONROE'S DONE ONE. KATY'S DONE ONE BAYTOWN'S DONE. AND BEAUMONT HAS ALL FOR THE SAME COLLECTIVE PURPOSE IS TO CREATE A, A, A EVENT CENTER THAT CAN HOST A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE WHERE YOU'RE NOT LOSING YOUR BUSINESS IN SALES TAX AND HOT TAX AND ALL THAT TO HOUSTON OR SUGARLAND OR WHEREVER, WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING INSTEAD. AND SO THAT'S BUT THE KEY IS TO FIND THE RIGHT OPERATOR FOR IT. AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET. WE HOPE THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THAT COMPONENT. OTHERWISE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF A SUCCESSFUL MIXED USE PROJECT AND SOME RETAIL. AND THE BLUE IS THE REMAINING AND THE BLUE IS THE HEALTH CARE ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. WITH ME HERE IS TIM GREGORY, WHO TIM IS THE HEAD LEADER OF THE JLL HEALTH CARE TEAM, THE REAL ESTATE SERVICES TEAM AT JLL. AND PRIOR TO THAT, HE WAS AT TRANSWESTERN AND STARTED THEIR HEALTH CARE GROUP, TOO. BUT HE'S WE'VE ENGAGED FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS
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NOW. AND, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE TIM THAT THIS IS THE SPOT FOR A HEALTH CARE CENTER. AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON, PARTICULARLY AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WITH, WITH THE ACCESS AND MOBILITY HERE, THE TOLL ROAD GOING OVER THE RIVER, ACCESSING ALL THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH, AND AND MORE RECENTLY, LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY, WHICH CURRENTLY EXTENDS EASTERLY TO CHIMNEY ROCK AND IS NOW APPROVED AND FUNDED TO EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO 521. SO IT BASICALLY LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY BECOMES FM 518 THROUGH SHADOW CREEK RANCH, PEARLAND, ETC. SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TIM TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE SIDE OF IT, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS. THANK YOU.JOEL, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. AND JOEL DOESN'T HAVE TO CONVINCE ME ANY LONGER THAT THIS IS A PREMIER SITE. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST, I GUESS THREE YEARS AGO, I SAID, JOEL, THIS CHECKS MISSOURI CITY AND THE DEMAND AS FAR AS JUST THE POPULATION, IT CHECKS ALL THE BOXES TO GET SOME EITHER, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL OR LOCAL HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS HERE AT THIS SITE. AND THE KEY FROM, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS AGO HAS BEEN ACCESS WITH THE ACCESS THAT JOEL SPOKE TO EARLIER. AND I'M THINKING THAT WINDOWS ABOUT TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED AS FAR AS THE OFF RAMP AND THE BRIDGE OVER TO OVER THE BRAZOS, I THINK THAT WILL MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THIS SITE. AND SOMEONE USED THE WORD GATEWAY. I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT GATEWAY TO MISSOURI CITY, AND IT REMINDS ME OF THE INTERSECTION OF GESSNER AND I-10. YOU SEE MEMORIAL HERMANN AND YOU SEE ALL THE STUFF AROUND THAT. IT'S REAL SIMILAR TO THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WE'RE SEEING AN UPTICK IN INTEREST. YOU KNOW, JUST RECENTLY GOT A CALL FROM A NATIONAL PROVIDER OF HEALTH CARE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE CALLS THIS WEEK, BUT THAT INTEREST HAS REALLY JUST STARTED BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS AND WHAT MISSOURI CITY IS DOING. I MEAN, THE ACCESS IS GOING TO BE KEY. SO TWO YEARS OUT, A LOT OF THESE GROUPS ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, OKAY, IF THEY DO A DEVELOPMENT, IT'LL BE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO GET A DEVELOPMENT COMPLETED. SO THE TIMING WE'RE GETTING INTO THAT ZONE NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE INTEREST NOW FOR FOR THIS SITE. AND YOU KNOW, I SEE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK TO A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW YOU HAVE TO DRIVE 20 MINUTES TO GET TO SUGAR LAND. OR IF YOU GO TO PEARLAND AND FOR HEALTH CARE, IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCESS AND TIMING. AND I REALLY SEE GREAT THINGS. AND I THINK THE SCHEME HERE WITH WITH MEDICAL, WE LOVE HOTELS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE HOTELS CLOSE TO THE MEDICAL.
AND I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT BLEND THAT WE'RE REALLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY WELL. SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I'VE BEEN WAITING A WHILE TO GET THAT TO ADDRESS THE ACCESS.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL. SO ANYTHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT, IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THIS SITE. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COUNCIL OR COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND FOR MAYOR PRO TEM. IF YOU IF YOU HAVE COUNCIL PUT IT ON. I JUST WANT TO OPEN IT UP AND SAY THAT SOME OF US ON THIS COUNCIL KNOWS JOE AND TIM MORE THAN OUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER, BECAUSE WE PROBABLY SPEND MORE TIME WITH YOU IN THE BOARDROOM BACK TRYING TO WORK THIS PROCESS THROUGH. BUT YOUR PROJECT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CITY OF MISSOURI CITY. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTH CORNER SIDE OF OUR CITY, GOING IN THROUGH THE FORT BEND TOLL ROAD, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A 59 AND A AND A HIGHWAY SIX LIKE SUGARLAND, BUT IT IS RAPIDLY GROWING. AND THE EXTENSION OF THE FORT BEND TOLL ROAD WILL GET US MORE OPPORTUNITIES, MORE HOMES, AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. THE FIRST STOP WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING UP TO DOWNTOWN, IT WOULD BE SIENNA PARKWAY, THEN HIGHWAY SIX ON FORT BEND TOLL ROAD, AND THEN THE THIRD AND THE LAST SPOT WILL BE LAKE OLYMPIA. AND HERE. SO AND PART OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, AS MANY OF YOU GONE BACK, AS LONG AS MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY, WE HAD A HOSPITAL
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HERE WHERE LOWE'S IS, FORT BEND HOSPITAL. PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS HCA AND MEMORIAL. HERMANN BOUGHT IT AND THEN THEY MOVED IT TO GRAND PARKWAY 99 AND 59. SO WE LOST THE HOSPITAL. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THAT'S WHERE LOWE'S IS TODAY. AND AND THAT WHOLE CHAPTER IS CLOSED. PRIOR TO THAT CHRISTUS WHERE SIENNA CROSSING, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT LOT WHERE YOU SEE, ACADEMY TODAY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SAINT JOSEPH HOSPITAL. AND THAT ALSO DIDN'T FRUITION THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. SO TODAY IN THE MARKET, AND TIM AND I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I HAVE A HEALTH CARE HEALTH CARE BACKGROUND, AND SO IS MAYOR PRO TEM. IT TAKES 20, 25 MINUTES TO COME BACK FROM BACK OF SIENNA TO HIGHWAY SIX AND THEN TO GO TO SUGARLAND HOSPITAL, WHICH IS MEMORIAL, I MEAN, METHODIST, OR TO GO TO PEARLAND. IT'S STILL GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER 25 MINUTES. YES, YOU CAN PROBABLY GET TO MED CENTER FASTER THAN YOU CAN GET TO SUGARLAND OR PEARLAND. AND THE WAY THE TRAFFIC PATTERN AND TRAFFIC ISSUES ARE. SO HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS AS IMPORTANT. I THINK THIS PLAYS A ROLE. SHASHI, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT ON A JOINT MEETING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SHOW THIS TO THE PNC AS WELL AS THE COMMISSIONER, I AS THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE PROJECTED PLAN AND THE GOALS ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THIS. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO PNC AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND TO DO SO. BUT I THINK THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF PNC IS TO THINK THROUGH. WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT 800 ACRES LEFT IN THE ENTIRE CITY. AND YOU HAVE A MAJOR PIECE. AND THIS PIECE IS BASICALLY THE LAST HOPE FOR MISSOURI CITY ON THAT CORRIDOR TO GET SOMETHING BIG THAT WE RIGHTFULLY SO NEEDED FOR OUR RESIDENTS, WHETHER IT'S A HEALTH CARE FACILITY OR A MARRIOTT AND A TOWN CENTER SIMILAR TO WHAT IS IN SUGARLAND AND WHAT HAVE YOU, HOW IT'S ZONED AND HOW IT GETS THERE IS I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AMONGST THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM TO PNC AND THEN TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE DREAM OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BUT I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP. FINALLY, YOU GOT A, YOU KNOW, A KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND WHERE YOU WANT TO LAND THIS TO. SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE COMING. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL MET WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, DAVID, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND IF YOU REMEMBER, DAVID IS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THE SPROUTS AND THEN THAT WHOLE PIECE TO MISSOURI CITY AND WORKING THROUGH THAT TEAM. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GOING BEHIND THE SCENES. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. I'M GOING TO YIELD BACK AND RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN WASHER. THANK YOU MAYOR. WELL, MAYOR, YOU TOOK ONE OF THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH. THIS IS OUR LAST SHOT. SO, JOEL, I'M COUNTING ON YOU. I HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME NOW, AND YOU KNOW THAT. TIM, IT'S ALSO GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN HERE BEFORE US. TIM, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOU ENVISION THIS TO LOOK SIMILAR TO THAT AT GESSNER AND I-10. THAT IS THAT'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. NOW, I LIKEN THEIRS, THOUGH. IT'S KIND OF MORE CHOPPED UP BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE, I GUESS, THE MALL AREA ON ONE SIDE AND THEN THE HOSPITAL ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THIS YOU WOULD BE LOOKING TO ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING INSIDE OF THE 42 ACRES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ARE YOU GUYS ALREADY IN COMMUNICATION WITH CERTAIN TYPES OF RETAILERS THAT WOULD COMPLEMENT THE HOSPITAL? OR WHICH ONE DO YOU SEE COMING FIRST HOSPITAL. THE FIRST THING PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, ACCESS HAS BEEN CRITICAL SHOWING THE ACCESS BECAUSE THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR HEALTH CARE THAT ALSO IMPACTS RETAIL. ALL THE OTHER USES THAT WE HAVE HERE. SO AS FAR AS WHAT COMES FIRST, HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH CERTAIN ISSUES RIGHT NOW. THE INSTITUTIONAL THE HOSPITAL, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF HOSPITAL SYSTEMS ARE ACTIVELY DEVELOPING. YES.YOU'RE NOT SEEING MANY PRIVATE HEALTHCARE DEVELOPERS RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE ALL ON THE SIDELINE RIGHT NOW. HOSPITAL NEEDS TO MAKE SIX, YOU KNOW, 6 OR 7% MARGINS. THE PRIVATE GROUPS HAVE TO MAKE 13. SO THERE'S AN ISSUE OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS, DEBT EQUITY, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE IMPACTING THAT. NOW. THOSE ARE CHANGING. THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER. SO AS FAR AS WHAT COMES FIRST, RIGHT NOW, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS JUST A
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NATIONAL GROUP. COME AND RESEARCH THE HOUSTON MARKET OF ALL MARKETS. THEY COULD CHOOSE FIRST. THEY DID RESEARCH AND THEY AND THEY FOUND MISSOURI CITY. THEY CALLED, THEY CALLED AND TALKED TO US ABOUT MISSOURI CITY. WHAT DID THEY SEE? THEY THEY SAW THE DEMAND. THEY SAW THE LACK OF SERVICES IN THIS AREA. WE ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IT. THAT'S VERY ENCOURAGING. SO WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING. THAT MEANS THE MONEY'S STARTING TO COME. SO IT'S IDENTIFYING EITHER A MAJOR HOSPITAL SYSTEM THAT WANTS TO COME HERE. AND WE'RE WE'RE GETTING THIS OUT IN FRONT OF ALL THE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS HERE LOCALLY. AND WE'RE ALSO MARKETING NATIONALLY, TRYING TO GET DIFFERENT GROUPS INTERESTED. WE'RE JUST NOW SEEING THAT IN PART. PART OF THAT IS A LOT OF THE WORK JOEL'S DOING WITH ACCESS. WHEN SOMEONE LOOKS AT THIS, THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT NOW. SO I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE KIND OF IN THE ZONE WHERE IT'S TIME TO, YOU KNOW, SECURE A GOOD GROUP AND IT'S GOING TO BE EITHER WE GET A USER THAT COMES IN, THEN WE FIND A DEVELOPER, OKAY, IT'S EASIER TO FIND A DEVELOPER WHEN YOU HAVE ONE COMMITTED GROUP TO TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE PROJECT. SO IT'S A CHICKEN, CHICKEN, EGG KIND OF THING. SO IT COULD GO EITHER DIRECTION. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE SEEING THE RIGHT SIGNS AND THE MAIN THING IS GOING TO BE THE ACCESS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOT TO I MEAN WE DO GAP ANALYSIS. WE HAVE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY. AND WHAT WE SEE IS WHAT Y'ALL SPOKE TO THE PAIN AS FAR AS THE DRIVE TIMES, YOU'RE IN A MARKET WHERE YOUR COMMUNITY HAS TO DRIVE, AND IT'S AN INCONVENIENCE TO GO TO THESE OTHER MARKETS. SO IT'S A CAPTURED MARKET. AND THESE NATIONAL PLAYERS OR LOCAL PLAYERS WILL EVENTUALLY SEE THAT. SO I SEE WE HAVE A BETTER STORY NOW. THEY ALSO DO A VOID ANALYSIS. AND THEN WHAT'S THE THE INSURANCE. THE INSURED. YEAH. WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY. AND IF YOU EVER WANT TO SEE IT, I MEAN WE CAN IT IS MULTIPLE LAYERS OF DATA WHERE WE CAN, WE DO A LOT OF SITE ANALYSIS FOR PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CARE. AND WE GO OVER THE MARKET AND WE CAN SEE, WELL, THEY NEED MORE PRIMARY CARE. THEY NEED MORE, YOU KNOW, NEUROLOGISTS, WHATEVER IT IS, WE CAN REALLY DRILL DOWN AND SHOW THESE GROUPS WHAT'S MISSING HERE. AND THE KEY STORY FOR THE FOR PROFIT GROUPS IS INSURED POPULATION. YOU ALL HAVE ABOUT 63% INSURED POPULATION HERE.THAT IS REALLY GOOD. AND THEN WHEN YOU GO ACROSS THE RIVER, INSURED POPULATION THERE. SO THE STORY HAS GOT IS GETTING REALLY GOOD HERE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ENCOURAGED. YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, I TOLD JOE, I SAID, HEY, IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS, THREE YEARS TO, YOU KNOW, BUT THE STORY'S HERE NOW. SO I THINK Y'ALL SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOME RESULTS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO DELIVER NOW. SO WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH IT.
AND THAT'S THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS SHARED VISION THAT WE CAME UP WITH A LONG TIME AGO.
WE KNEW IT WAS WE KNEW IT WAS WAS OUT THERE. THEY TOLD ME YEARS AGO, THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE OFF RAMP RELOCATED, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE TOLLWAY AND SOME, SOME OTHER THINGS. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE TIM SAID, IT'S KIND OF ALL COMING TOGETHER. TIMING'S GOOD. AND, AND, AND ALSO THE, THE MOMENTUM IS GETTING BETTER, WHICH WHICH HELPS A LOT TO MAKE ALL THIS ACCOMPLISH ALL THIS. ONE OF A COUPLE OF THINGS I DIDN'T MENTION IN TERMS OF SORT OF THESE COMPONENTS TO THIS MIXED USE ON THIS PLAN HERE. LET'S USE THAT ONE. FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A WE'VE ALWAYS ENVISIONED IN THESE MIXED USE PROJECTS, AND I'M GOING TO USE ONE AS A EXAMPLE. AND THAT IS. SENTARA. I'M SAYING THAT RIGHT IN IN CINCO RANCH, JUST DRAWING A BLANK ON IT. BUT IT'S A. THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS. THEY HAVE THESE CENTRAL GATHERING AREAS, WHICH MISSOURI CITY REALLY DOESN'T HAVE, WHERE. I MEAN, THEY'RE LEASED OUT OVER 200 NIGHTS A YEAR FOR KIDS BIRTHDAYS AND CELEBRATIONS AND ALL THAT STUFF WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A RETAIL COMPONENT AROUND IT. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'D SAY CITY CENTER WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST EXAMPLE IN HOUSTON WHERE THEY ACCOMPLISHED THAT. THEY HAD THE HOTEL, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE, THE RETAIL AND EVERYTHING AROUND IT. BUT THAT'S AN IDEA THAT WE STILL WANT, WANT TO PURSUE. AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN HERE IN GREEN ON THAT EXHIBIT WITH THE RED RETAIL AROUND IT AND MULTIFAMILY WITH FIRST FLOOR RETAIL. MORE URBAN STYLE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR THERE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'D MENTION ON THE TOLLWAY THERE,
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THERE'S SOME WHAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE VACANT PARCELS ON THIS PARTICULAR PLAN, CONCEPT PLAN.AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM MISSOURI CITY OVER THE YEARS IS WE WANT FULL SERVICE RESTAURANTS. WE WANT FAMILY STYLE RESTAURANTS, WE WANT A BAR, YOU KNOW, WE WANT A RESTAURANT, BAR CONCEPTS AND ALL THAT. AND I KNOW THERE'S HIGHWAY SIX GATHERS ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND THE RETAIL AND ALWAYS HAS. BUT WE FEEL LIKE WITH THIS MIX OF USES THAT WE CAN GET SOME FULL SERVICE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOING TO LIKE TO HAVE AND DON'T HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO FIND, I GUESS, IS THE IDEA. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE CONCEPT THERE. AND AGAIN, HAVING A GATHERING PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GET OUT OF THE CAR AND WALK IS, IS THE OTHER MOTIVE THERE? AND JOEL, I MEAN, IN YOUR DESIGN, PARKING IS ALWAYS A HUGE ISSUE. I MEAN, FROM THE MEDICAL CENTER ON OUT, PARKING IS ALWAYS OVERLOOKED.
FOR HEALTH CARE, WE NEED 5 TO 6 PER THOUSAND PARKING. IF YOU GO UP AND DOWN HIGHWAY SIX AND LOOK AT ALL THE MEDICAL, THEY HAVE RETAIL PARKING, WHICH IS FOUR PER THOUSAND. SO THIS SITE TO ME, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STRUCTURED PARKING, YOU WANT TO MAKE PARKING EASY FOR NOT ONLY THE RETAILERS HEALTH CARE HOTEL. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT. ACTUALLY, THIS CONCEPT IS BETTER THAN THE GUESTS ARE ON I-10. I LIVE THERE AND WATCH THAT. THAT WAS THE THEY WE HAD THE BENEFIT OF LEARNING FROM THE MISTAKES OF A LOT OF OTHER SITES. BUT THIS SITE IS BALANCED AND IT ADDRESSES A LOT OF THOSE PROBLEMS THAT WERE OVERLOOKED IN OTHER COMPETING SITES. GOTCHA. SO LET ME LET ME WRAP UP REALLY QUICKLY AND THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. TO ME, WHAT'S KEY HERE IS. JOEL, WE LIKE YOU. WE LIKE YOU A LOT, BUT WE'VE HAD OTHER DEVELOPERS COME BEFORE US AND PROMISE US BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL THINGS AND SOME KIND OF WAY. SOME OF THE PROJECT GETS SOLD OFF AND MAYBE WHO THEY SELL IT TO. THEY DON'T CARRY OUT THE VISION. SO HERE, EVEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS BEING OUR LAST SHOT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO US THAT THIS REMAINS THE VISION. I THINK YOU SAID YOU STARTED THIS ABOUT IN 2014. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. BUT STILL TODAY THIS VISION STILL WORKS AND IT'S A DIFFERENT FEEL. IT'S A ELEVATED FEEL, IF YOU WILL, FOR MANY OF THE CITIZENS HERE IN THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY. SO PLEASE BE COGNIZANT OF THAT. AND I MY CHALLENGE TO THE STAFF WOULD BE, HOW IS HOW CAN WE CONTAIN AND KEEP THIS CONCEPT AND THIS VISION TO LOOK LIKE THIS, NO MATTER IF IT TAKES US FROM TODAY TO ANOTHER FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS TO TOTALLY GET IT ON THE GROUND. AND COUNCIL MEMBER, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THEY WILL NEED OUR HELP. IT COULD BE IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IN TERMS OF INITIATIVES, IN TERMS OF UTILITY CAPACITY. SO AS THIS MOVES ALONG, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO REALIZE THIS VISION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS AND AS YOU RIGHTFULLY CALLED IT, ONE OF OUR LAST OPPORTUNITIES, LAST OPPORTUNITY. AND SO IF YOU COULD PUT HIM WITH DAVID AND YOU GUYS WORK OUT WHAT THAT HELP LOOKS LIKE, DEFINITELY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT. I'LL YIELD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE RECOGNIZED THE MAYOR PRO TEM CLAUSEN. YES. SO JOEL, WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS MUSIC. TO MY EARS. IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY YOU WANT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WANTING. MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN MARSHALL AND COUNCIL MEMBER O'DEKIRK. WE SIT ON OUR THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND THESE ARE. THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE BEEN WANTING AND. AND YOU'RE HITTING ALL THE CYLINDERS. I WASN'T AROUND WHEN THE AMAZON PROJECT CAME TO LIFE. IT SEEMED LIKE THAT PROJECT CAME TOGETHER THAT ALL DEPARTMENTS WORK TOGETHER SYNERGISTICALLY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, THAT THE WHAT, WHAT, WHATEVER TIME FRAME WAS LAID OUT, WHATEVER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHATEVER CADENCE THAT THAT WAS THAT, THAT THAT PROJECT OR THIS PROJECT CAN, CAN FLOW JUST LIKE AMAZON BECAUSE AMAZON GOT UP JUST LIKE THAT. AND I WASN'T EVEN ON COUNCIL THEN, BUT I BLINKED AND IT WAS, IT WAS THERE. YOU MENTIONED THE, YOU, YOU TOOK, I THOUGHT ABOUT THE RETAIL. AND
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SO YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT. WE'RE ALWAYS THINKING RETAIL. HAVE YOU HAVE YOU HAD ANY INTEREST SPECIFIC INTEREST ON THE RETAIL THE RETAIL SITES? WELL, WE HAVE TWO THINGS. ONE, WE HAVE ON LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY. IN FACT, WE'VE WE'VE SOLD TWO SITES OVER THE YEARS FOR BOTH FOR RETAIL, MORE STRIP CENTER TYPE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. BUT YOU SEE THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO 7-ELEVEN, RIGHT ALONG ALONG LAKE PARKWAY, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT. I WISH I HAD A POINTER, BUT THE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER SITE THAT'S BEEN SOLD FOR RETAIL THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE GOING UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT'S A COMBINED MAYBE 30, 30, ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW THAT. BUT ONCE UPON A TIME WE, YOU KNOW, EARLY ON, WE, WE TALKED TO H-E-B AND I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD WE HAD TALKED TO THEM ABOUT AND, AND THEY SAID, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S KEEP, KEEP OUR, YOU KNOW, KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND WE'LL STAY IN TOUCH AND ALL THAT, RECOGNIZING THAT THAT KIND OF VIOLATED THEIR MINIMUM THREE MILE SEPARATION. BUT IT'S MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S, IT'S REMEMBER, IT'S 2.1 FROM SIENNA PARKWAY AND HIGHWAY SIX STAR LOCATION, BUT DRIVE TIME, IT WAS FIVE PLUS MILES, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GET THERE. SO THEY CONSIDER IT, HE SAID, WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE'RE OPENING IN MANVILLE IN ANOTHER YEAR OR SO. AND THIS WAS A WHILE BACK, AND WE NEED TO SEE IF THAT CANNIBALIZES, YOU KNOW, SIENNA AND HOW THAT ALL WORKS.AND SEE, SO THE POINT IS, IS THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SOMETHING THEY WOULD WANT TO COME BACK TO. WE HAD A SPECIALTY GROCER WE SPOKE WITH AT ONE POINT ABOUT IT AS WELL.
AND THEY WERE FELT LIKE IT WAS A LITTLE EARLY. SO THAT'S WE HAVEN'T REALLY PUSHED IT THAT HARD ON THE RETAIL SIDE BECAUSE WE'RE A LAND DEVELOPER, WE'RE NOT A VERTICAL DEVELOPER. SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT DEVELOPMENT TEAM WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE THE MASTER DEVELOPER HERE, IN OTHER WORDS, SO RIGHT DEVELOPMENT TEAM WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPING RETAIL AND SPECIFIC SORT OF VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING WHETHER IT'S APARTMENTS OR MEDICAL OR WHATEVER THAT. SO WE JUST GOT TO FIND THAT LEAD TENANT, IF YOU WILL, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS AT A HOSPITAL. IS THAT A RETAILER? IS THAT A HOTEL? WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THOSE COMPONENTS ALL WORK WELL TOGETHER. AND WHEN YOU INTEGRATE THEM, AND WE KNOW THAT WE BUILD VALUE BY DEVELOPING RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND WE HAVE ONE MORE LITTLE PHASE THERE TO, YOU KNOW, LEAD UP TO IT. BUT THAT'S WHERE THIS 42 ACRES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT'S REALLY THE CHERRY ON THE PROJECT. SO, OKAY. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE STARTED WITH 465 ACRES. SO OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST COMMENT, THE HIGH RISE AND FORGIVE ME, I DIDN'T BRING MY GLASSES TODAY, BUT IS THIS GOING TO BE OR ARE YOU ENVISIONING A 2 TO 3 STORY HIGH RISE? WHAT WHEN YOU SAY HIGH RISE OR FOR THE HOTEL? NO, THE MULTIFAMILY. OH, MULTIFAMILY. MULTIFAMILY. YES. YES. YEAH. WE I THINK WE HAVE IT APPROVED UP TO THE, THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S, IT WOULD BE LIMITED BY THE MARKET, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN IT'S LIMITED BY HEIGHT. WE HAVE A THIS WHEN WE FORM THIS P D, D. AND AGAIN, THE REASON WE DID THE PDD SO WE COULD INCLUDE ALL THIS MIX OF USES, EVERYTHING SORT OF INCLUDED. BUT I THINK WE HAVE A 90 FOOT ON THAT 42 ACRES. WE HAVE A 90 FOOT HEIGHT RIGHT NOW UNDER THE PDD, BUT THAT WAS MORE FOR A HOTEL OR A HOSPITAL, NOT THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT I WOULD SEE A FOUR STORY PRODUCT WITH MAYBE STRUCTURED PARKING AT SOME POINT. THE FIRST PHASE WE DID THE ELECTION. THAT'S THREE STORY GARDEN STYLE, ALL SURFACE PARKED RESIDENTIAL. SO BUT IF THE MARKET WOULD SUPPORT A HIGHER, YOU KNOW, HIGHER DENSITY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'S A GOOD SIGN IF IT WOULD SUPPORT IT. BUT I DON'T RIGHT NOW. BUT IT DOES THE, THE, THE GARDEN STYLE IS DOING VERY WELL FROM A LEASING AND RENTAL STANDPOINT. I DON'T KNOW, A HOSPITAL CAN BE WHAT, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, FIVE STORIES.
YEAH. MAXIMUM. SO ALL WITHIN THAT HEIGHT LIMITATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER O'DEKIRK. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE TO SAY I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THIS. I SAW THIS ALMOST YOU WERE ONE OF MY FIRST MEETINGS, I THINK WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL AND THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE NEED. WHAT MY BIG QUESTION AND
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I APOLOGIZE IF IT WAS SAID. WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON OPENING THE ACCESS FROM FORT BEND TOLLWAY? WELL, THEY STARTED IN THEY SIGNED THE CONTRACT WITH WEBER CONSTRUCTION IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. AND I THINK IT IS FOURTH QUARTER OF 20. NO. FIRST QUARTER OF 29 I THINK IS IS WHEN IS THE PROJECTION NOW? ARE THEY GOING TO BE AHEAD OF THAT OR. I DON'T KNOW. BUT AND THEN LIKEWISE ON THE EASTERLY EXTENSION OF OF LAKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY TO CONNECT WITH. 518 THAT'S FULLY FUNDED THE COUNTY PROJECT. AND THEY THEY COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR AND COMPLETE BY SECOND QUARTER OF 28. SO THOSE ARE THE KEY THINGS TO WATCH.YES. THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE. IT WOULD BE TELLING A DIFFERENT STORY RIGHT NOW. OKAY. OKAY. SO I JUST I WANT TO SAY ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU FOR THIS CONCEPT. I HAVE TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN MARSHALL SAID, YOU GOT TO STICK TO THE PLAN BECAUSE IF YOU START CHANGING THINGS UP ON US, WE'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE UPSET. BUT THAT SAID, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I SPEAK TO OTHERS THAT MIGHT BE LISTENING TO THIS RECORDED SESSION MAYBE A MONTH FROM NOW, SIX MONTHS A YEAR. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, FOLKS. THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING WE WANT BROUGHT TO MISSOURI CITY. SO WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE DILIGENTLY LOOKING AT WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED AND, YOU KNOW, SERVICES AND PROJECTS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING COUNCIL MEMBER EMERY. YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS IN YOUR CONCEPT PLAN, YOU TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR A HOTEL AND AN EVENT CENTER. WOULD YOU SEE THAT AS ONE COMPLEX SIMILAR TO THE MARRIOTT DOWN AT IN SUGAR LAND, OR WOULD YOU SEE IT AS TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS, OR ARE THEY'RE THEY'RE USUALLY IT IT'S TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS, BUT THEY'RE CONNECTED FOR SURE. AND, AND BY AND ALSO THE, THE INTEGRATED PARKING, STRUCTURED PARKING, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF AGAIN, IF IT'S, IF THE MARKET'S THERE TO DO THAT, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT THEY WOULD WANT TO DO AS A STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE WHEN THEY HAVE BIG, BIG CONVENTIONS, BUT THE, THE, THEY SERVE EACH OTHER. THE, THE, THE, OBVIOUSLY, THE EVENT CENTER SERVES THE HOTEL FROM AN OCCUPANCY STANDPOINT, BUT THE HOTEL, THEY ALL HAVE A CATERING KITCHEN THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, SERVE THE, THE, ALL THE EVENTS AND, YOU KNOW, SIT DOWN DINNERS FOR 600 PEOPLE OR EIGHT, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN, THEY CAN HANDLE THAT. AND THEN USUALLY THEY HAVE A HOTEL BAR OR RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, AS WELL. BUT SO THEY, THEY WORK TOGETHER AND, AND THESE OTHER EXAMPLES I MENTIONED EARLIER, TYPICALLY THE CITY ENDS UP OWNING THE EVENT CENTER. THE HOTEL MANAGEMENT COMPANY MANAGES IT, BUT THE CITY. HOWEVER, THOSE INCENTIVES. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT THAT ON THE ON THE HOTEL OR HOSPITALITY HOSPITALITY SIDE, BUT I MEAN, HOWEVER, THAT WORKS OUT THE THE CITY'S USUALLY INVOLVED IN IN SOME WAY IT HAS TO, TO MAKE THE EVENT CENTER WORK ECONOMICALLY. DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEL FOR HOW BIG OF AN EVENT CENTER YOU COULD ACCOMMODATE? WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS? I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING 40, 50, ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET, OR AT LEAST. WHAT WOULD THAT EQUATE TO AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF, OF OCCUPANTS YOU COULD, YOU COULD HANDLE? I MEAN, 6 TO 800. OKAY.
AND SOMETIMES BIGGER. I THINK SUGAR LAND, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SUGAR LAND TOWN CENTER. I MEAN, THE MARRIOTT TOWN. YEAH. IT'S PROBABLY SIX 800 I'M GUESSING. I DON'T KNOW. HOW ABOUT THE HOTEL? HOW MANY ROOMS WOULD YOU SEE OR JUST JUST THAT'S SUBJECT TO A MARKET STUDY BY THE HOTELS, BUT I WOULD I PERSONALLY WOULD SEE 150 AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WHAT I YOU KNOW, AND WHETHER THAT'S 6 OR 8 STORIES OR WHATEVER, HAVE YOU PUT OUT ANY FEELERS AS FAR AS A HOTEL? YES.
OKAY. IT'S NOT HARD TO GET THE HOTEL MANAGEMENT COMPANY, THE BRAND, ALL THAT TO SAY, YEAH, WE LIKE IT, WE'LL DO IT. AND THEN THE CITIES SAY, YEAH, WE LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING THAT OPERATOR, THAT FINDING THE RIGHT OPERATOR. THEY CAN PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL ULTIMATELY DO THE MARKET STUDY AND FIGURE OUT IF IT ALL WORKS. YEAH. WELL,
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AND I THINK YOU, YOU TOUCHED ON IT. PARKING IS, IS KEY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, ADEQUATE PARKING AND CONVENIENT PARKING, YOU'RE GOING TO RUN PEOPLE OFF. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE. SO IT'S, THIS IS THE GATEWAY. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO MESS UP THE GATEWAY. YEAH. AND RIGHT. DON'T MESS IT UP IF YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU JOEL AND TIM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ONE LAST THING AND THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO US. AND AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF TRYING TO PROMOTE THIS VISION.BUT BUT YOU'LL SEE RIGHT ON THE CORNER ON THE TOLLWAY WHERE THE THE. YOU'RE COMING INTO THIS SITE. WE'VE SET ASIDE. AND OUR PLAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO SET ASIDE A LANDSCAPE AREA THAT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS NOT JUST THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT MISSOURI CITY AND WHETHER THERE'S A MONUMENT SIGN SAYING WELCOME OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE KIND OF INCLUDED IN IT. ALL RIGHT. SO I LIKE GATEWAY TO MISSOURI CITY, RIGHT? I KNOW IT WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. SHASHI, BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THIS ITEM. SO I THINK WE'RE MISSING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TODAY. SO THIS WAS A CRUCIAL MEETING.
SO AT SOME OF THESE MEETINGS WE NEED TO HAVE THEM HERE. AND THANKS FOR INTRODUCING THIS PLAN TO EVERYONE HERE. SO WE'RE ALL ON A ONE ACCORD. BUT THIS IS NOW GOING TO TAKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND YOU GUYS TO PUSH THIS THROUGH OF THE VISION THAT THE PNC AND THE COUNCIL HAS. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S NOT WE ARE JUST POLICY MAKERS. P AND Z ARE THE ONES THAT THEY THEY HEAR THESE PLANS, THEY REVIEW THEM AND THEN THEY PUSH FORTH THROUGH TO CITY COUNCIL. SO MOST OF THE TIME WHAT I'VE SEEN IS WE HAVE THESE NICE PRESENTATIONS. IT TOOK SIX YEARS FOR JOEL TO GET UP HERE, WHICH I'M GREAT THAT HE'S UP HERE, BUT I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SOME MORE TIME.
THERE HAS TO BE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH FORT BEND TOLL ROAD AUTHORITY, IN THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE THIS ACCESS ROAD. IF YOU LOOK AT FORT BEND TOLL ROAD GOING TOWARDS DOWNTOWN HOUSTON, WHEN THOSE THOSE WAREHOUSES CAME, THEY DID THE SAME KIND OF A ADDITION ONTO THE FORT BEND TOLL ROAD. THE SIDE ROAD MADE IT HAPPEN WITHIN A, IN A IN A YEAR. AND THAT'S WHY I'M NOW ON BOTH SIDES. IT'S IT'S IT'S DEVELOPED TO WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE. SO THIS NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE FOR THEM TO REALLY START SELLING THIS AND TO HAVE SOME SERIOUS PEOPLE TO LOOK AT. I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE, HOSPITALS, THEY DON'T WAIT AROUND FOR YOU. THEY GO WHERE, WHERE WHOEVER IS READY. UTILITIES. WE TALKED ABOUT IN, IN A COUPLE OF OUR MEETINGS. AND ALL OF THESE THINGS HAS TO BE READY IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE A MOVE. HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IS JUST A FUTURISTIC PLAN SO THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT'S BEING PROJECTED THERE. COME 29 OR 30, THIS MAY NOT LOOK LIKE WHAT IT IS OVER THERE. AND THE, YOU KNOW, EXPEDITING, I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM TALKED ABOUT BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS, IF THERE'S A PLAN THAT NEEDS TO GO, IT NEEDS TO GO. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS FORT BEND TOLL ROAD AUTHORITY IS WHERE THEY IT TOOK THEM TWO YEARS AT LEAST MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS TO GET IT PASSED FOR THAT SIDE ROAD, YOU KNOW, TO GET THAT EXTENSION. I THINK WITHOUT THAT, ALL OF THIS IS JUST A IT'S JUST SOUNDS GOOD. IT'S IT'S LOOK REALLY NICE, BUT WE CAN'T GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE'S COMING. SO I THINK YOU ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING IT BACK TO AT SOME OTHER JOINT MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH FORT BEND OVER AUTHORITY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
JUST QUICKLY TO ADD TO THAT, MAYOR, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, DAVID, HAS BEEN INVOLVED. HE'S NOT HERE WITH US TODAY. SO HE'S MET WITH THIS TEAM AND HE'S SEEN THIS PLAN.
WE WILL ENGAGE WITH FORT BEND TOLL ROAD AUTHORITY TO SEE HOW WE CAN HELP ADVANCE THIS. AND AS YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE'RE WORKING ON THE UTILITIES TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO BRING IN THE CAPACITY TO SUPPORT SUCH KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'RE ON IT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT. YES. THIS IS EXCITING. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT, JOYCE. SASHA, I THINK YOU HAD A COMMENT. YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR,
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MAYOR, COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, YOU'VE HEARD THIS, BUT THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING FOR OUR CURRENT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, JENNIFER THOMAS. SHE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR TWO DECADES OF DEDICATED SERVICE. I WANT TO COMMEND HER FOR HER DEDICATION AND SUPPORT FOR THE STAFF. AND JENNIFER, WE WISH YOU WELL IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. WHILE I SAY THAT WE HAVE BEGUN THE SEARCH FOR OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, TAHERI NORI, IF YOU COULD STAND UP, EVERYBODY KNOWS TODAY, TOO. SHE'LL BE SERVING IN THE INTERIM ROLE. NOT ONLY THAT, THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, ALAN BOGART, HAS BEEN BRINGING IN SOMEBODY WHO'S SEASONED AND A VETERAN IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. HE HAS SERVED IN OTHER CITIES.WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE CONTRACT, SO I WILL NOT DISCLOSE THE NAME YET, AND HIS ROLE WILL BE TO ASSIST IN THE TRANSITION AND SEE HOW WE CAN TAKE THIS DEPARTMENT EVEN A NOTCH HIGHER. SO THAT IS IN THE WORKS AS WELL. SO BETWEEN STORE I AND OUR CONSULTANT, I THINK WE'LL BE IN GOOD HANDS. AND WHILE WE BEGIN THE SEARCH FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK JENNIFER FOR HER. SO I THINK SHE FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. I THINK THIS WEDNESDAY WE HAVE A GOING AWAY FOR YOU, RIGHT? WEDNESDAY OR WEDNESDAY? WEDNESDAY EVENING? WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON? THAT'S CORRECT. I WANTED TO SAVE THAT FOR YOU, MAYOR. SO ALL ARE WELCOME. P AND Z COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY ARE WELCOME TO TO COME AND CELEBRATE JENNIFER AND HER SERVICES TO THIS CITY FOR THE PAST 20 PLUS YEARS. SO JENNIFER, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I CAME TO YOU FOR HELP AS A MAYOR. I CAME TO YOU FOR HELP.
SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE. I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE ON WEDNESDAY. I AM GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN. I DID LET THE CITY SECRETARY KNOW, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS AND HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT
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