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EVENING EVERYONE.[Item 1]
O'CLOCK THURSDAY AND WE WILL CALL THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY PARKS BOARD MEETING TO ORDER.UH, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE, UH, IS ABLE TO JOIN AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THE AGENDA AS POSTED ON THE INTERNET AS WELL AS AT CITY HALL.
UM, WELL WE'VE DONE ITEM ONE CALLING MEETING TO ORDER ITEM NUMBER TWO.
UH, LET ME DO IT IN ROLL CALL.
LET ME MAKE A COUPLE OF RULES IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS PACKAGE.
UH, WE WILL DO A ROLL CALL FIRST AS THE MEETING GO.
IF WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM, I WILL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE THAT WAY DIRECTLY HOW EACH BOARD MEMBERS VOTED.
I'M GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL TO SEE WHO'S HERE FIRST.
COMMENTS JOHNSON, THOMAS ST JAMES JOHNSON, LESLIE, UH, MARY ROSS SHARMAN RYAN MERCHANT.
IT'S MY SCREEN FROZE UP ON ME, MAN.
I KNOW YOU'VE PROBABLY BYPASS BUT I'M ON SOME BRIAN, IS THAT BRIAN? OKAY.
AND SO, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER LITTLE RULES AND THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STAY, IF YOU WILL MUTE YOURSELF SO THAT WAY WE WON'T GATHER A LOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE AND THAT'LL HELP US OUT TO THIS MEETING.
UH, SO WE'VE DONE A ROLL CALL, UH, AND AGAIN, JUST TO REFRESH EVERYBODY'S MEMORY, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT LEAST SAY YOUR NAME FIRST.
SO THAT WAY THE PUBLIC, CAUSE IT'S STILL IS A PUBLIC MEETING AND THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW WHO'S SPEAKING AS WELL AS THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONSIDER A PRO
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ON THE MARCH 5TH, 2020 PARKS BOARD MEETING MINUTES.YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THOSE MINUTES, UH, FROM SYDNEY.
UH, THOSE WERE EMAILED TO YOU EARLIER.
I'LL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO REVIEW THOSE.
WE ADOPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
THE EASIEST WAY MADE TO DO THIS IS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.
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NUMBER THREE.ITEM NUMBER THREE IS PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE WHO MAY BE ON THE MEETING.
WE ASK THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE'LL HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.
IF I HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, STATE AND
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STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US PLEASE.CAN YOU TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE, MA'AM? MARY THOMAS.
SAY YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN PLEASE, MA'AM? NINE 50 STAFF SHY? YES MA'AM.
WELL, LAWRENCE, I BELIEVE SHE'S WITH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.
OKAY, WELL THEN WE HAD THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME YOU CAN SPEAK ME.
ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, NOT HEARING ANYONE COME FORWARD.
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM NUMBER
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FOUR.UM, OUR, OUR PROCESS FOR THE CREATION OF DEPARTMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, UM, HAS A, HAS A STEP IN IF WE, IF WE IMPLEMENT A PROCEDURE THAT THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THE PUBLIC.
SO, SO NOT JUST FOR LIKE AN INTERNAL OPERATIONS PROCEDURE, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS A PUBLIC FACING, UH, POLICY OR PROCEDURE THAT WE BRING IT TO THIS BODY FOR A REVIEW AND FOR INPUT.
UM, WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE TODAY.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS RELATED TO SERVICE ANIMALS OR PARTICIPANTS, UH, FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO UTILIZE SERVICE ANIMALS AT OUR FACILITY.
AND, UM, RECREATION PROGRAMS. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE THAT, UM, HELPED OUR STAFF AND UNDERSTAND THE LAW AND THIS, UH, UM, THIS POLICY IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AND THE, UH, UH, TEXAS, UM, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES CODE.
AND, UH, SO WE, WE WANT TO, UH, IMPLEMENT THIS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT I'M BRINGING IT, WE ARE BRINGING IT TO YOU GUYS FOR, UH, FOR ANY INPUT, UM, AND UH, SUGGESTIONS PRIOR TO DOING THAT AND IT WAS SENT OUT TO YOU ON, ON MONDAY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT AT THIS TIME, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE IT OR IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT AND READ IT, WE, WE INVITE YOU TO DO SO AND PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK, UH, VIA EMAIL, UM, IN THE NEXT, UH, IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
DOES ANYONE ON THE PARKS BOARD HAVE ANY COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO THE POLICY AS IT RELATES TO SERVICE ANIMALS? FEEDBACK? OKAY.
HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLICY? YES, I AM.
ANY, ANY COMMENTS? PAYBACK, NO COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK? I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVELY DONE.
UH, JASON, THIS DIDN'T EVER HAVE ANY ACTION ON OUR PART, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, CORRECT.
UH, THE, THE, THE POLICIES DON'T REQUIRE ACTION ON THE BOARD'S PART, BUT WE DO ASK FOR ANY INPUT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO, UM, AS, AS AN ADVISORY BODY, WE DO ASK THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AND ADVISE AS, AS YOU SEE FIT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS
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MOVE ON OVER TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.[Item 5]
I DON'T REMEMBER IF I REVIEWED THE PARKS AND REC SAFETY MANUAL.AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, THIS, THIS IS, UH, OUR, OUR SAFETY AND RISK MANAGEMENT POLICY FOR, UH, FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS IS KIND OF A HYBRID OF AS INTERNAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AS WELL AS EXTERNAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
AND SO I JUST FELT IT WAS, UH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO, TO UM, SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH OVER THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS OF WORKING ON THIS.
UM, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS, UH, DOING RESEARCH AND LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES.
UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR ACCREDITATION.
UM, AND, AND INSTEAD OF HAVING A, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF INDEPENDENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, WE OPTED TO PUT IT INTO A, UH, A MANUAL OR A BOOK THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE, HAVE WITH US, TAKE WITH US, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, ON OUR, ON OUR TRUCKS, UH, FOR OUR PARKS OP GUYS.
UM, AND REALLY JUST KINDA COVER A LOT OF THE, UM, SAFETY AND RISK MANAGEMENT STUFF.
UM, EVERYTHING FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, BOMB THREATS TO MISSING CHILDREN, UH, BUT ALSO AS RELATED TO OUR PROGRAMS AND HOW WE DESIGN OUR PROGRAMS AND LOOKING AT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CONDUCT A RISK ASSESSMENT.
UH, AND SO WE HAVE OUR PROCEDURES IN THERE FOR HOW TO CONDUCT A RISK ASSESSMENT.
HOW DO WE MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON RISK, UM, AND, AND THEN HOW WE'RE GOING TO CARRY IT OUT.
UH, ALSO IN THIS, UH, HAS OUR, UM, ACCIDENT AND INCIDENT, UH, PROCEDURES.
IF WE DO END UP HAVING AN ACCIDENT OR AN INCIDENT, UH, WHAT DO WE DO AND HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? UH, IT IS, IT IS A LONG DOCUMENT.
UM, AND, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT MEANT TO COVER EVERY THING THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN, BUT IT IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A, A GOOD OUTLINE OF MANY THINGS THAT ARE LIKELY OR, OR YOU KNOW, THE, THE MORE PROBABLE, UM, THINGS SUCH AS VEHICLE ACCIDENTS OR, OR WHATNOT.
THIS IS MEANT TO BE A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT.
AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE WILL REVIEW EVERY YEAR, UM, THE, OR, OR MORE OFTEN, BUT EVERY YEAR ON A MINIMUM AND, UM, ADJUST AND, AND, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ANTICIPATE KIND OF GROWING AND, AND BECOMING A BETTER AND BETTER DOCUMENT.
UM, SO WE, WE WOULD, UM, AGAIN, ASK YOU GUYS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS TO, UM, PROVIDE THAT EXTRA SET OF EYES ON THIS DOCUMENT AND, UM, ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
I DID NOT GET, I DIDN'T GET TO DO EVERYTHING.
YOU'VE REVIEWED EVERYTHING IN THE AGENDA, BUT I DID SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON THIS MANUAL, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION.
YOU SAID, YOU SAID THAT THIS IS MEANT TO BE A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT OR IT'S NOT MEANT TO ME.
UH, IT, IT IS, WE ARE GOING TO ADOPT IT AS AN OFFICIAL, UH, POLICY AND MANUAL, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADD AND SUBTRACT AND ADJUST AN AMEND AS AS POSSIBLE.
WELL I'M GLAD THAT I DIDN'T HEAR YOU PROPERLY CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS, I THOUGHT IT WAS, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A TIME THAT I WAS ABLE TO SPEND WITH IT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY WELL DONE, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU SAID IF IT'S A DOCUMENT THAT'LL BE A GROWING DOCUMENT, WHICH IS GOOD.
DIANE, I THINK YOU TOOK A LOT OF THE GUESSWORK OUT.
IT LOOKED VERY COMPREHENSIVE TO ME IS EXCELLENT.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS.
IF YOU DO HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE AFFORD THEM OVER TO JASON.
IF NOTHING ELSE NEEDED TO BE SAID,
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WE'LL MOVE ON OVER TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.ITEM NUMBER STATES CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE VERANDA THEN RESORT PARKLAND DEDICATION.
UM, SO WE'VE RECEIVED A PARKLAND DEDICATION PROPOSAL.
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THIS IS A, THIS IS A SMALL DEVELOPMENT ON STAFFORDSHIRE ROAD CONSISTING OF, UH, 87, UH, UNITS, UH, WHICH, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE LESS THAN AN ACRE OF PARKLAND DEDICATION.UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 50% OF PARKLAND PRIVATE PARKLAND AND THEN 50% CASH IN LIEU OF, UM, THEY ARE HERE.
AND I THINK JENNIFER FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS DEVELOPMENT OR PARKLAND DEDICATION.
UM, I'M THE ARCHITECT AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND ONE OF THE OWNERS IS THERE AS WELL.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY OR SPEAK ABOUT? UM, NO, I'M JUST, UM, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AS FAR AS THE APPLICATION IS CONCERNED.
UM, ANY NUMBERS OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE CLARIFICATION, I CAN CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU.
ALL RIGHT, OPEN UP FOR COMMENTS.
UM, I AM MARRIED THOMAS, ONE OF THE OWNERS.
UM, I WAS WONDERING, ARE YOU ALL READY FOR A CHECK THAT I CAN WRITE THAT 50% OF PRIVATE LAND FROM THE BOARD MEMBER? DO WE HAVE COMMENTS? YEAH.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? NO COMMENT.
WELL, UH, I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
I DID SEND AN EMAIL AND I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT.
AND WHAT DID DANIEL, BASICALLY I WENT THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND I APPLIED TO THIS PARKLAND DEDICATION AND I DON'T KNOW, DID EVERYBODY RECEIVE THAT EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT? I DID, YES.
I HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT EMAIL OR THUMB MINUTES OTHER THAN A GREENWAY, YOUR OBSERVATION.
AND SO JUST, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT AND EVERYONE THAT'S ON THIS CALL, UH, THE EMAIL, I'LL JUST BASICALLY KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE EMAIL AND WHAT IT SAID WAS BASED ON THE RULES LISTED BELOW, THE MAXIMUM INCOME FOR PRIVATE PARK LAND, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, THE 0.2175.
SO THE SELL THE MAXIMUM AREA FOR BOTH COMBINED RESERVE B AND D IS 0.215.
NOW THERE'S ALSO SOME RULES WITH REGARDS TO UH, HOW YOU, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT ENCUMBERED LAND, UH, AND THAT THAT'S LAND, UH, WHICH HAS THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF ENCUMBRANCE IS MAYBE USE TO SATISFY THE PRIVATE PARKLAND OPTION ON THE BASIS OF PARTIAL CREDIT AS RECITED HERE IN THEN IT GIVES THE RULES FOR IT THEN IT ALSO, BUT THAT WAS FOR ITEM B.
AND THEN FOR ITEM C, UH, WHICH IS AN EMAIL AND IT TALKS ABOUT LIMIT ON ENCUMBERED LAND, UH, THAT NO MORE THAN 50% OF PRIVATE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK PLAN PROVISION AND BE SATISFIED WITH LAND POSSESSING THE INCUMBENT SET FORTH IN SUBSECTION FOUR SUBSECTION F DASH FOUR DASH B OF THIS ACTION.
AND THEN SO YOU HAVE THAT PART.
AND THEN WHEN YOU CONTINUE ON READING THE RULES, UH, THE RULES AS SHOWN BELOW, ENCOURAGE ON LESS THE RULE THAT'S SHOWN BELOW.
ALSO ENCOURAGE ON LESS THAN 0.5 ACRES, BOY, PRIVATE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKLAND CREDIT THROWING.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING
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LESS THAN A HALF ACRE FOR PRIVATE PARKLAND CREDIT.UH, AND THEN WHEN YOU READ IT, YOU KNOW, THE RESERVE ALONG STAFFORDSHIRE ROAD IS 0.27, EIGHT FOUR ACRES.
AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE NOT TO ACCEPT THIS AS PRIVATE PARKLAND.
UH, THE OTHER THING I STATED WAS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT JUST PAID THE FULL FEE TO MEET THAT PARKLAND REQUIREMENT.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO REQUIRE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN LIEU OF LAND TO MEET THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.
UH, THAT WAS AGAIN, JUST MY RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE INTERPRETATION OF THE RULES AS WELL AS WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN ACCEPTED WITH REGARDS TO PARKLAND DEDICATION.
NOW AGAIN, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT BACK UP TO, UH, THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS.
EITHER DISAGREE OR AGREE OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, NOT OBLIGATING THE CITY.
WE JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND I MADE SURE I JUST QUOTED THE RULES TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES AND HOW I WOULD, HOW I WOULD RESPOND.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD CONSIDERING WHAT THE RULES ARE.
THIS IS MARY ROSS CONSIDERING WHAT THE RULES ARE.
THEN I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
THIS IS CALLED THE EFFICACY THE SAME.
I THE, UM, THIS IS RAJ JOSEPH, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, PUT THESE POINTS VERY CLEARLY THROUGH THE RULES AND, AND MADE IT EASIER FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND AND THANK YOU, UM, LAWRENCE FOR DOING THIS.
UH, FANTASTIC EMAIL AND UH, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN THIS ONE IN HIS EMAIL, UM, LISTED HERE.
THIS IS THOMAS SCENE AND AFTER READING, UM, THE RULES THAT YOU STATED, WHEREAS I AGREE WITH YOU TOO.
THIS IS DON AFTER THE EXPLANATION BUDDY.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, FROM THE APPLICANT STANDPOINT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU WITH REGARDS TO, UH, WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED? YEAH, BECAUSE LAST MEETING WE ATTENDED THE, THIS IS WHY BEING PRESENTED THAT 50% OF PARKLAND PROCUREMENT SHOULD BE PAID, BUT THEN THEY SAID THERE'LL BE ANOTHER MEETING AND THAT MEETING IS OVER.
THERE WAS NO CHANGE FROM THAT NOW.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T THINK THIS IS AS THIS COME BEFORE US, BEFORE JASON ON THE AGENDA, BEFORE, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT HAD A MEETING WITH STAFF, UH, TO CLARIFY THE, THE RULES REGARDING THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.
SO JENNIFER AND MYSELF, UM, AND RANDY AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ALL ELSE WAS THERE FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MET WITH THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS THE, THE RULES, UH, REGARDING THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.
UM, DURING THAT MEETING WE DID INDICATE THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS NOT STAFF'S DECISION, THAT'S THE DECISION OF THE PARK BOARD, THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO, UM, BUT WE DID EXPLAIN THE, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE RULES WITH ENCUMBRANCES AND OUTLINED WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR A PARKLAND DEDICATION.
UM, WITH THAT, UM, UH, WE, WE, WE HIGHLIGHTED THAT THE RULES DO SAY ENCOURAGED.
UM, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A MANDATORY, UM, LESS THAN A HALF ACRE, UM, OR MORE THAN A HALF AN ACRE.
I THINK FOR PUBLIC PARKLAND IT'S DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM,
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UM, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE ADAMANT THAT, THAT THAT A HALF ACRE, UH, IS OBVIOUSLY NOT SOMETHING THAT FOR, FOR PUBLIC PARKLAND.HOWEVER, FOR PRIVATE PARKLAND IT'S UP, IT'S UP TO THE DEVELOPER AND THE BOARD AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE, AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
JENNIFER ARE YOU, ARE YOU ON JENNIFER? I AM AND I DID AGREE THAT I GET THAT.
OUR RECOMMENDATION, THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS IS WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, OUR RECOMMENDATION GOES BEFORE OR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
AND ONCE HE GETS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEY CAN EITHER ACCEPT OUR RECOMMENDATION OR THEY CAN MAKE A NEW RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN ONCE THEY'VE WENT THROUGH THEIR HOUSE, IT WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY'RE THE FINAL STOP.
SO THERE'S A THREE PHASE APPROACH AND ANY COUNCIL HAS THE OPTION TO SNAP THE PARKS BOARD OR SEC EXCEPT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION A RECOMMENDATION.
SO, BUT AT THIS LEVEL, AT THE, AT THE PARKS BOARD LEVEL, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS BASED ON THE RULES WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, BASED ON THE LOCATION, THE USAGE BASED ON HISTORY OF OTHER, THE UH, ARE, AND WE'LL MAKE A MOTION AND GO THROUGH OUR FULL PROCESS.
BUT BASED ON WHAT WE PRESENTED WITH, I AS CHAIRMAN PRESENTED BASED ON MY OBSERVATION, UH, IT APPEARED THAT IT WAS BETTER SERVED TO DO A, UH, MONEY AND LUA FOR THE POOL AND TIRE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING FOR A PROB RECORD AND THE LOCATION.
AND SO AGAIN, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION SO YOU GET TO PLEAD YOUR CASE.
YOU GOT THREE MORE, TWO MORE TIMES BEYOND THIS, THIS BODY YOU'VE BEEN ON, WHAT ITS RECOMMENDATION IS TO COME BEFORE THEM AND PRESENT YOUR CASE.
THIS IS THE ARCHITECT, UM, FOR THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, LET'S SAY WE DO GO AHEAD WITH, UM, MONEY IN LIEU OF, UM, THE LAND.
SO THEN DO WE HAVE THE OPTION OF REDESIGNING THE WHOLE THING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PARKLAND THAT WE'VE DEDICATED BECAUSE WE HAD TO INCREASE A LOT OF PARKLAND IN THAT SPACE TO TRY AND MEET THAT REQUIREMENT OF YOURS.
SO IF WE ARE BEING THE MONEY EITHER WAYS, DO WE GET THEN REDUCE IT? YEAH.
I MEAN, YOU GOT TO PAY THE MONEY IN NOAH.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS JENNIFER GOMEZ.
I JUST WANT TO QUALIFY THAT, UM, DO WHAT YOU WANT.
BUT IT STILL HAS TO MEET THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE OTHER CITY REGULATIONS.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S STILL A QUESTION ON THE DRAINAGE, UM, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER CITY ORDINANCES STILL HAVE TO BE MET.
SO ONCE, UM, YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE PARKLAND, THEN WE CAN REASSESS TO SEE WHAT THOSE AREAS MAY BE ABLE TO BE REPURPOSED THAT.
DOES THE ARCHITECT OR OWNER HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE BOARD? NO, I THINK I'M GOOD.
SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD AND UH, SO THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED, UH, IS BEFORE YOU, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM ANYONE ON THE BOARD WITH REGARDS TO THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR, AND MA'AM YOU COULD PRONOUNCE THE NAME FOR ME SO I CAN PRONOUNCE IT PROPERLY.
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THE NAME OF THE RESORT IS IT CALLEDAND THAT IS SUCH THAT I THOUGHT IS, UM, OKAY.
SO I'LL RETAIN A MOTION FOR, UH, A PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR WRITTEN DOBBIN RESORT.
THIS IS THOMAS SAYING, WHAT DOES RIM DOBBIN MEAN? IS THAT JUST SOMEONE'S NAME? IT'S A FAMOUS GUY THEN IN INDIA.
AND MOVE THAT WE, WE ADJUSTED RECOMMENDATION FROM STATED SITUATION AT THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WOULD YOUR MOTION BE DONE IF I CAN MAYBE HELP.
IS YOUR MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MONEY IN LIEU OF THE FULL AMOUNT? $1,300 PER DWELLING UNIT FOR THE TOTAL OF, I BELIEVE IT'S 87 DWELLING UNITS OR RUN DOBBIN RESORT.
AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, IF THERE IS NOT ANY, PARDON ME IF THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
DO I HAVE ANY THAT OPPOSE?
THE MOTION PASSED TO ACCEPT THE MONEY AND LOU, UH, FOR THE FULL AMOUNT FOR RENT.
DOBBIN RESORT, PARKLAND DEDICATION.
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ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
NOPE, DON'T FORGET IT STILL GOES TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL.
AND DO WE GET TO KNOW WHEN THOSE MEETINGS WILL BE? WILL WE BE UPDATED? THE STAFF WILL HAVE TO NOTIFY YOU ON THAT ONE.
I'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH MS. GOMEZ.
IF YOU NOTICE NOW I'M GHOST CASPER.
NUMBER SEVEN, CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PARKWAY CROSSING PARKLAND DEDICATION.
YEAH, THERE'S LISTEN TO OTHER, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION.
UH, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT, UM, PARKWAY CROSSING.
UH, THEY, THEY ALSO HAVE A, UM, PROPOSAL THAT PRIVATE PARKLAND.
UM, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE, UM, THE APPLICANT HERE IS HERE AS WELL.
I THOUGHT I SAW MR. WILLIAMS, HIS NAME ON THE, ON THE LIST.
JARED, WHAT ARE YOU ON? YES, SIR.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD OR SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD BEFORE WE GO INTO THIS DIRECTION? SURE.
UH, SO I'M JARED WILLIAMS WITH JOHNSON CARTER ENGINEERING.
I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
I THINK JASON COVERED THE MAIN IDEA OF IT PARKED BY CROSSING IT.
IT'S A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH
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WEST INTERSECTION PARKWAY.WE'RE LOOKING TO PARKLAND FOR THE WHOLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT HERE ON THE FIRST TASK.
I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH IT.
UH, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD.
DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO THIS PARKLAND DEDICATION? WELL, LAUREN, LAUREN SAYS, BUDDY, YOU HAD POINTED OUT THERE WAS A QUESTION OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE AREA BY THE HOA AS OPPOSED TO THE STATE.
SO IN, IN THEIR LETTER THAT THEY PRESENTED TO US, UH, THERE WAS BASICALLY SAYING THAT, UH, THAT THE AREA WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.
UM, AND SO, UH, AND THE REASON I PUT THE LAST STATEMENT UNTIL I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT IT ON EMAIL I SENT OUT THERE CONSIDERING ALL THIS AS PRIVATE PARKLANDS.
SO THIS IS ALL CONSIDERED AS PRIVATE PARKLAND.
THEN YOU CAN DISREGARD THE LAST SENTENCE BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE PARKLAND.
WE WON'T BE MAINTAINING IT, BUT IT DOES HAVE TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE PARKLAND.
THEY'RE ONLY MEETING 50% OF THEIR PARKLAND DEDICATION.
SO THE REMAINING PORTION HAS TO BE MONEY IN LIEU OF DOING PRIVATE PARKLAND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S FILED OF RECORD.
BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY MEET UP TO BY THE ORDINANCE, YOU CAN ONLY MEET HALF OF YOUR PARKLAND DEDICATION WITH PRIVATE PARKLAND.
AND THEN THE REMAINING PORTION HAS TO BE HONEY AND UH, AND SO THEY STILL HAVE THE PRIVATE PORTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, BUT THEN ALSO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY A HALF OF IT, HALF OF THE, UH, THE FEE.
SO IF THEY HAVE TOTAL, UH, NO, MY CHARACTER, I THINK IT WAS 700 DWELLING UNITS, UH, UM, ON THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH, UM, 50% OF THEIR PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENT WOULD BE FULFILLED WITH PRIVATE PARKLAND.
UH, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD NEED TO MAKE A PAYMENT TO THE CITY FOR $490,000.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.
AND MR. WILLIAMS, WAS THAT THE, WAS THAT THE INTENTION CAUSE IT DIDN'T MENTION THE, THE OTHER HALF OF THE, UH, YEAH, THE OTHER HALF OF THE DEDICATION REQUIREMENT HERE IN THE, IN THE COVER LETTER.
SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD BY, BY THE DEVELOPER.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING TO AVOID THAT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THAT'S THE RULES ON PRIVATE DEDICATION.
I GUESS MY QUESTION BACK WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM MAKING THIS PUBLIC PARKLAND? WELL, IT'S ABOUT HOW YOU ADJUST TO NEW ONE TO TAKE IT.
WELL, I MEAN, YEAH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL DIFFERENTLY IF, IF THIS IS, WE'RE GOING TO BE A, A ASSET THAT WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOOK AT THE, THE QUALITY OF THE LAND AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BEFORE WE WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF VALUE TO US.
ALSO TOO, WE WOULD LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE RULES ON, I'M SORRY, I KEEP SAYING THE ROLE, BUT IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR EVERYBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S BEING SUBJECTIVE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GOTTA BE, IT'S GOTTA BE UNENCUMBERED.
IF IT'S ENCUMBERED, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE OF THAT LAND BECOMES LESS AND LESS.
AND SO LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DETENTION POND ON THAT, WELL THAT MEANS YOU ONLY GET ONE THIRD CREDIT RIGHT THERE FOR THAT.
IF YOU'VE GOT A PIPELINE EASEMENT, IF YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE TO, THAT COMES INTO PLAY WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, DEDICATED AS PUBLIC PARKLAND AND YOU KNOW,
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WE WANT A MINIMUM SIZE OR PUBLIC PARKLAND AS WELL.UH, IF I'M, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND I'M SPEAKING FROM THE HIP, I KNOW IT'S A MINIMUM FIVE ACRES.
I MEAN, WE WOULD WANT LIKE A LITTLE QUARTER ACRE AREA FOR PUBLIC PARKLAND BECAUSE THERE'S JUST, IT'S MORE OF A MAINTENANCE ISSUE THAN, THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING FULL PUBLIC PARKING AN AREA.
AND DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE FIBER CAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE MINIMUM, BUT IT'S IN THE RULES RIGHT THERE.
AND SO IF YOU'RE WANTING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TONIGHT, THEN I THINK YOU WOULD NEED TO, UH, I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU.
YOU GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
BUT WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT, WHAT WE'RE TOLD, UH, FIVE ACRES THANK YOU IS CORRECT.
AND SO WITH WHAT YOU PRESENTED TO NIGHT, THE INFORMATION YOU PRESENTED TONIGHT, IT REQUIRES US TO, YOU KNOW, CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING, YO, YOU'RE GOING TO DO PRIVATE PARKLAND.
SO THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO PAY, UH, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, DO PRIVATE PARKLAND AND, AND IF YOU'VE GOT 700 LOTS, YOU'RE GONNA PAY $198,000 AND, UH, MONEY AND LUA IF THAT'S WHAT THE OWNER, AND THAT'S WHY JASON'S ASKING YOU THAT QUESTION IS IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE FACTS THAT ARE BEFORE US.
IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN I WOULD RECOMMEND A, I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU, UH, THAT YOU'VE PULLED THIS ITEM.
UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, THE FACTS THAT YOU HAVE IT FOR US IS IT'S A PRIVATE PARKLAND.
YOU'LL MEET THE OTHER HALF OF IT WITH MONEY.
I THINK THE BEST DECISION IS TO PULL IT.
I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT MY DEVELOPER TO PAYING.
THAT'S THE, UH, I THINK I WAS MISUNDERSTANDING THE RULES COMING IN AND, UM, TO SWITCH INTO PRIVATE, I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU COULD ONLY COUNT UP TO 50% FOR THAT.
UM, I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE IT, THE PUBLIC GOING FORWARD THEN.
AND I DO THINK WE'VE RECOMMENDED ENOUGH ACREAGE TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT, BUT I FULLY UNDERSTAND IF THAT NEEDS TO BE A RECENT MIDDLE.
SO I THINK WHAT I'LL HAVE TO DO, UM, BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND IT IS BEFORE IT'S ON THE AGENDA SO IT DOESN'T GET ADOPTED.
I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO, UH, AT LEAST THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
WE'LL HAVE TO, UH, AND, AND I'M SURE THE ATTORNEYS ON THAT AND HE'LL STRAIGHTEN ME OUT, UH, AND OTHER STAFF.
BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO AT LEAST TAKE A FORMAL ACTION, UH, SINCE IT'S A RECOMMENDATION, UH, DENYING THIS PARKLAND DEDICATION TONIGHT.
IF THE ATTORNEYS ON THE LINE, CORRECT ME IF I'M MISTAKEN ON MY APPROACH OR IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT I SHOULD DO BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE ACCEPTED IT AS A CITY AND SO IT SEEMED LIKE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT.
I BELIEVE WHAT THE, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SPEAKING.
UM, THE, UM, WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS IS, AND I'VE PULLED IT UP, I'M TRYING TO NAVIGATE THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE HERE, BUT I BELIEVE IT SAYS THAT IT'S GOTTA BE CONSIDERED BY THE PARKS BOARD AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO IN ORDER TO CONSIDER IT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALL DISCUSSED IT, SO, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING A VOTE AT THIS TIME BASED ON WHATEVER YOU ALL HAVE DISCUSSED.
COULD HE PULL THIS APPLICATION FORM YOU? WITHDRAWN.
DOES IT HAVE TO BE? UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FORMALLY WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT, BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ALL NEED, IF IT NEEDS TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY AMENDED, UM, BY THE TIME IT GOES TO THE, THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEN YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL CAN CONSIDER IT BY TAKING A VOTE AT THIS TIME.
LIKE, UH, I BELIEVE THE CHAIR WAS SAYING, AND CAN I INTERJECT AS WELL? THIS IS JENNIFER.
THE PARKLAND DEDICATION IS SUBJECT TO THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES.
SO IF THE CITY DOESN'T TAKE FORMAL ACTION, UM, IF PARKS BOARD DOESN'T TAKE FORMAL ACTION IN 30 DAYS, THEN IT GOES TO PNZ NEXT WEDNESDAY WITH A NEGATIVE OR DISAPPROVAL.
AND THEN IF PNV DOESN'T TAKE ACTION, IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A DISAPPROVAL.
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RIGHT.AND I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT JENNIFER, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME WOULD BE TO CONSIDER IT AND PULL THE VOTE.
SO, UH, BASED ON CONVERSATION FROM OUR STAFF, THE SUBMITTAL AS PRESENTED DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA THAT IS BY THE ORDINANCE.
AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING NEW.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO AT THIS STAGE TO ME TAKE ACTION THAT WE DISAPPROVE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AS SUBMITTED.
THAT WOULD BE, I THINK THE ACTION THAT WOULD NEED TO TAKE PLACE BASED ON CONVERSATION FROM STAFF.
NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM THE BOARD REGARDING ACTION ON THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR PARKWAY CROSSING.
THIS IS JARED WILLIAMS. REAL QUICK.
BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION ON THIS, I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE.
UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO KEEP IT ON HERE AS IS? UM, WHAT I DON'T WANT IS I DON'T WANT TO HAVE YOU PULL IT.
I TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER TOMORROW.
HE SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN DO THAT.
WE'LL PAY THE FEE AND THEN I'M SUBMITTING THE SAME THING A MONTH FROM NOW.
UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO RUN THIS THROUGH AS IS WITH IT BEING PRIVATE AND THEN COULD WE STILL CHANGE IT TO PUBLIC LATER ON AT A DIFFERENT PARKS MEETING? HMM.
SO HERE, HERE'S HOW WE, IF WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, IT'S EITHER IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO PAY THE MONEY AND WE CAN LET YOU HAVE PRIVATE, HERE'S YOUR OPTIONS, YOU CAN HAVE A PRIVATE PARKLAND AND PAY THE FEE THAT MEETS THE COORDINATES.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOARD WOULD AGREE ON OR NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT MEETS THE ORDINANCE.
THAT PART I DO KNOW RIGHT THERE.
AND SO ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
THE ONES PRESENTED TO US THEN WOULD HAVE TO DENY THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AS PRESENTED.
SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS WE HAVE BEFORE US AS A BODY TONIGHT THAT WE CAN TAKE ACTION ON.
AND SO AGAIN, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, ARE YOU OKAY, YOU AND YOUR CLIENT, OKAY, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE, THE, YOUR PARKLAND DEDICATION IS MET BY PRIVATE SLASH PAYING PUBLIC FUNDS.
I THINK THAT ANSWERED TONIGHT IS NOW OKAY.
THEN THAT BEING THE CASE, THEN WE HAVE TO, AND AGAIN AS PRESENTED TO US, CAUSE THAT'S ALL WE CAN GO ABOUT.
CAN'T GO BY ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
AND SO, UH, WE HAVE INFORMATION BEING PRESENTED.
WE WOULD HAVE TO DENY THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AS PRESENTED.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN IT'S GONE THROUGH AS PRESENTED TO THE OTHER THREE BODIES.
NOW YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
HEY LAWRENCE, LET ME JUST, LET ME JUST ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE THE LAST, THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS WHAT, WHAT WAS APPROVED WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS A RECOMMENDING BODY.
I MEAN WE'VE ALSO TAKEN PROPOSALS WHERE THEY PREVENT, THEY'VE PRESENTED PUBLIC PARKLAND.
WE'VE SAID NO WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT PUBLIC PARKLAND RIGHT NOW IN THAT AREA OR IN THAT PARK ZONE.
WE WANT CASH IN LIEU OF, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE PRESENTATION WAS.
SO JAMES, IF CAN'T, CAN'T THE BOARD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION REGARDLESS IF THE BOARD SAYS PRIVATE PARKLAND AND CATCH IT IN THE WORLD? THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE OUR RECOMMENDATION MOVING FORWARD.
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I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU, YOU COULD, YOU COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION HOW HOWEVER, HOWEVER YOU WANT, BUT AS LONG AS IT FALLS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE, OF THE ORDINANCE, I MEAN THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHEN PEOPLE HAVE PROPOSED GIVING US PUBLIC PARKLAND AND WE'VE SAID, WE'VE SAID NO THANK YOU AND WE WANT THE CASH IN LIEU OF, AND SO THIS WOULD BE THE SAME THING.WE COULD SAY WE, WE WOULD WE ACCEPT THIS PROPOSAL AS PRIVATE PARKLAND WITH 50% IN LIEU OF RE REGARD REGARDLESS THAT THAT CAN BE YOUR REP.
THAT CAN BE THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION REGARDLESS.
NO, NO, I GET, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE COULD SEND THAT AS RECOMMENDATION, BUT I THINK THE OWNER WANTS TO DO, I THINK THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT THAT WAY AND THAT THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY DO THE LAND AND LOA AND WE COULD COME BACK AND SAY, WE HAVE TOO MANY PARKS IN THAT AREA.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO MAINTAIN IT.
WE WANT THE, WE WANT TO, WE WANT THE CASH IN LIEU OF NO MATTER WHAT.
I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND THAT IS, THAT IS TRUE.
WELL, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR FOR ANY DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO THE PARKWAY CROSSING PARKLAND DEDICATION.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK? THIS IS A LARGE DEVELOPMENT LARYNX VICTORIA.
UM, WHAT PART ZONE IS THIS IN? IS IT IN? UM, OKAY.
OH AND I'M SORRY, I DO NOT HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
I DON'T HAVE THE PARK ZONE MAP IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PARKS ZONE OR COUNCIL DISTRICT? OH YEAH.
RANDY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ON T TO SEVEN OR 10.
UM, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY AN A PARK ZONE WHERE WE HAVE VERY LITTLE PARK LAND.
YES, IT'S IN 10 AND I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER PARTS IN THAT SONG.
WE HAVE SOME UNDEVELOPED PARKLAND, THE CLOSEST PARK TO THAT FREEDOM TREE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A COMMUNITY PARK AND WE HAVE SOME PARKLAND THAT'S IN THE PARKS ED SUBDIVISION.
WE HAVE VERY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE.
I THINK THREE ACRES OR SOMETHING REAL SMALL.
UM, AND A COUPLE OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WE OWN THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED.
AND DO WE HAVE MONEY TO DEVELOP THOSE OTHER AREAS OR ARE THEY, I MEAN, ARE THEY IN AREAS THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR ZONE? YEAH, WE DO HAVE SOME MONEY IN, IN THAT ZONE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S IN PARK'S EDGE.
UM, WAS, WAS A PARKLAND DEDICATION I BELIEVE WHEN FROM LAKE OLYMPIA, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT FROM ONE OF THE SECTIONS OF LAKE OLYMPIA.
AND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WASN'T, IT WASN'T ACCESSIBLE CAUSE IT WAS KIND OF OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELDS AND, AND RIGHT.
IT'S RIGHT ALONG A MUSTANG BY YOU.
AND NOW THAT PARK'S EDGE IS GOING IN, WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE SOME ACCESS TO THAT LAND NOW.
AND, UM, SO WE, WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT RIGHT NOW TO SEE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO DESIGN A PARK, UM, AND, AND, UH, AND DEVELOP THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AGAIN, VERY, VERY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT ALONG MUSTANG BY YOU.
I'M LOOKING AT THE CHART THAT'S PROVIDED IN THE PACKAGE AND IT SAYS NUMBER OF UNITS, 700, UM, PARKLAND DEDICATION, SEVEN ACRES.
AND THEY HAVE HERE THE PARK UNENCUMBERED.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT, WHAT, EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE CAUSE I'M NEW HERE.
WHAT IS THE FEE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PAY? SO THE REQUIREMENT, IF HE'S GIVEN A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT, HE'S GETTING FOUR
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POINTS AROUND AND THE OTHER, HE'S MEETING A SEVEN ACRE REQUIREMENT BECAUSE HE'S BUILDING LIKE EASEMENTS FOR PARKS.I'M JUST ASKING CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ARE THE RULES? SO BASICALLY THE WAY, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN IS THAT A DEVELOPER HAS TO PROVIDE ONE ACRE OF, UM, PARKLAND FOR EVERY 100 UNITS.
AND SO BECAUSE HE HAS 700 DWELLING UNITS, THAT WOULD BE SEVEN ACRES OF PARKLAND.
AND THAT PARKLAND HAS TO BE TOTALLY UNENCUMBERED, MEANING IT CAN'T HAVE DRAINAGE ON IT.
IT CAN'T HAVE LAKES ON IT, THEY CAN'T HAVE A PIPELINE EASEMENT OR GAS, GAS, GAS LINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON.
IT HAS TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT UNENCUMBERED.
IF THERE ARE CONFERENCES ON THAT, ON THAT LAND, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S DRAINAGE OR, OR UH, UM, A PIPELINE THAT RUNS THROUGH IT, THEY CAN GET PARTIAL CREDIT FOR THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S SHOWING ON HIS, ON HIS CHART IS THAT HE HAS 4.29 ACRES ARE UNENCUMBERED.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT IS GOOD PARKLAND, THAT'S NOT ENCUMBERED WITH ANYTHING ELSE.
AND THEN HE'S GOT 15 ACRES THAT HAS LAKES OR DRAINAGE AND SO HE ONLY GETS 16% CREDIT AND THEN, UM, ONE OF THEM LOOKS LIKE PROBABLY HAS A PIPELINE EASEMENT OR SOME SORT OF OTHER EASEMENT AND IT GETS A THIRD CREDIT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THE ACRES THERE FOR THE 7.52 ACRES.
SO AS A DEVELOPER, THEY HAVE AN OPTION TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL TO DEDICATE THEIR PARKLAND TO BE PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE.
AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD, WOULD MAINTAIN OR TAKE OVER.
SO THERE'S FOUR, ONE OPTION TO SAM IS 4.29 ACRES.
WE GIVE THAT TO THE CITY PER SE.
SO, UM, MANY OF OUR PARKS WERE PART OF A PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHEREAS THEY WERE, THE DEVELOPERS GAVE THE LAND TO THE CITY FOR THE CITY TO UM, MAINTAIN AND DEVELOP.
SOMETIMES THE DEVELOPER HAS DEVELOPED THE PARK AND THEN THE CITY JUST MAINTAINS IT.
UM, SO, BUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE A, IT WOULD BE A CITY, A CITY PARK, A PUBLIC PARK FOR ALL, FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL SAY THIS AND YOU'RE RIGHT.
UM, UH, JASON FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
WE CAN MAKE ANY KIND OF RECOMMENDATION OR WHATEVER WE WANT THAT THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT BECAUSE IT IS A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, BUT I'M STILL TAKING COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK FROM BOARD MEMBERS THAT MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKLAND MEDICATION.
THIS IS A LARGE DEVELOPMENT, 700 HOMES, A LOT OF HOMES, RIGHT? AND IT'S LESLIE.
AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE, THERE'S A GREEN SECTION HERE WOULD BE THE PARK.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT IT'S ADJACENT TO.
I MEAN IF IT, EVEN IF IT WAS TO BE PUBLIC, WHAT'S THE ACCESSIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC? WOULD THAT CONNECT TO COMMUNITY PARK? IS THAT WHAT WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT BEFORE? SO THAT WHAT THEY SHOW IN GREEN AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT, UM, I WAS TRYING TO READING IT AND THEN WHEN I SAW WHAT THE MAP SHOWED, BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THEY SHOW SEVERAL TRACKS.
THEY SHOW FOUR TRACKS THAT ARE GRAIN THAT THEY OWN THE LEGEND CALLS FOR COMMUNITY PARK.
ONE'S 1.38 ACRES, ONE IS 12.5 ACRES, ONE'S 3.5 ACRES.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, IT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE AN ANCHORAGE ON HIM.
AND SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT, MMM.
I WASN'T QUITE SURE AND I NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON IT.
AND SO, UH, CAUSE THEN WE GOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT, IS IT A DETENTION POND? AND THEY JUST STILL CALL IT A PARK ON THE 12 AND A HALF ACRES.
I MEAN, SO THOSE QUESTIONS WERE MADE, BUT AS FAR AS ACCESS, WHAT'S AROUND IT? UM, YOU KNOW THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A PUBLIC ROAD CAUSE EVERYTHING THEY'RE SHOWING IN GRAIN ON THE MAP HAS ACCESS TO A PUBLIC ROAD.
IF YOU ASKED ME IN REAL WORLD AND, AND YOU GO TO A GOOGLE ALERT
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AND WHEN I LOOKED ON GOOGLE ALERT CAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THAT WAS REALLY MY KEY QUESTION.SO WHAT REALLY THERE ON GOOGLE EARTH? WELL WHERE THAT LINE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MAP, UM, IT LOOKED LIKE JUST NOT THE BEST I CAN TELL NORTH OF IT IS A PIPELINE FOR DOOR.
IT KIND OF GOES THROUGH THERE.
IT WAS KIND OF LOOK LIKE, UH, I THINK, I THINK THOSE ARE THE GUY WIRES FOR THE TRANSMISSION TOWERS.
IT LOOKS LIKE JUST ON THE, JUST ON THE NORTH BORDER OF THAT PROPERTY.
THE TRANSMISSION TOWERS HAVE THOSE BIG LONG GUIDE WIRES AND THOSE TERMINATES RIGHT THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT, THAT PARK PROPERTY.
SO YOU HAVE THE BIG GUY, TILE OR SIDE IS JUST NORTH OF IT RIGHT THERE.
ALSO LOOK LIKE THERE'S A, I DON'T KNOW, A COMMUNITY POOL FOR ANOTHER SUBDIVISION NORTH OF THE MID DENSITY RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
I'M JUST KIND OF PACING IT IN ON GOOGLE EARTH.
AND THEN WHERE THE PARK 12.5 ACRE TRACK IS OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A PIPELINE KIND OF CUTTING THROUGH ON THE KIND OF SOUTHERN BOUNDARY LINE RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TOLL ROAD OBVIOUSLY ON THE EAST SIDE AND MARK'S EDGE BOULEVARD ON THE WEST SIDE, SO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC
NOW HOW DOES IT CONNECT TO THE BIG PICTURE OF MISSOURI CITY PARKS? UH, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT ONE.
I DON'T HAVE THE ULTIMATE TRAIL PLAN THERE.
UH, JOSEPH, UM, VICTORIA BROUGHT A GOOD, UH, INSIGHT OF VICTORIA.
IF THAT ZONE DOESN'T HAVE MORE, UM, LARCS OR, UM, I'M INCLINED FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR MORE PUBLIC PARK.
THAT'S MY INCLINATION OR COMMENT.
I JUST OFFER THAT GIVEN ALL THE UNKNOWNS AND COMPLEXITIES INVOLVED, I THINK WE'D BE BEST OFF AT THIS JUNCTION.
UNDERSTANDING WITH THEM, UNDERSTANDING THERE'S NOTHING NEGATIVE INVOLVED HERE NECESSARILY THAT THIS JUNCTION, WE DENIED THIS REQUEST.
SOUNDS LIKE THEY WANT TO STUDY IT FROM THEIR ANGLE.
WE CERTAINLY NEED TO STUDY IT MORE FROM OUR ANGLE.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, OKAY.
TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT JASON WAS SAYING, UH, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE READS, THE WAY IT DESCRIBES THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, Y'ALL CAN EITHER APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION, I MEAN APPROVE THE, THE DEDICATION AS IT IS, APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS, SO THAT GIVES YOU THE OPTION TO CHANGE IT OR, OR DISAPPROVED.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A MOTION, THEN IT WOULD PROBABLY BE COUCHED AND KIND OF THOSE OPTIONS.
AND KIND OF THE SECOND ONE ALLOWS YOU TO AMEND THE PLAN AS IS.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND TOO IS YOU KNOW, HOW THE, AND WE'VE HAD THIS BEFORE, SO BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUCH A LARGE TRIBE AND THEY DEVELOP THIS IN PHASES, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY'RE GOING TO SET ASIDE AN AREA, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IF IT IS A PUBLIC PARK, UH, AND SO THEY WOULD DEDICATE OR SET ASIDE AN AREA THAT WE KNOW ULTIMATELY CAUSE THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL PLANNING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST SAYING GENERALLY IN THIS AREA, LET'S JUST SAY THAT IT'S ALL THE GREEN THAT'S NORTH OF THAT ROAD.
HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN AND WE'RE GOING TO MEET OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION WITH THAT.
AND IT'LL EITHER BE, YOU KNOW, UH ENOUGH TO WHERE THEY CAN MEET HER CUMBERT UNENCUMBERED, ENCUMBERED LANE.
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KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK IS GONNA FIT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT AS WE DEVELOP, WE ACTUALLY GET THIS STUFF DEDICATED.AND SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS I'M HEARING SOME, SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SAYING, WELL, THEY THINK WE MAY NEED SOME PUBLIC PARKLAND OVER THIS AREA.
I'VE HEARD THAT AT LEAST TWICE I'VE HEARD FROM BRIDEY THAT JUST DISCIPLINE WOULD LET THEM COME BACK.
DO I HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR FEEDBACK FROM OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? YEAH, THIS IS BRIAN.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO AMANDA AT THIS POINT, IS THAT AMENDING WITH THE DEVELOPER OKAYING OR HOW DOES THAT GO FORWARD THEN? IF WE AMEND IT, THE DEVELOPER HAS TO APPROVE THE AMENDED.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, AND AGAIN, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT, THAT'S JUST IT.
IF WE SAY THAT WE RECOMMEND THE MONEY, ALL MONEY A LITTLE WRONG, BUT ANY PUBLIC PARKLAND, THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.
NOW HE DOESN'T HAVE TO LIKE IT OR NOT LIKE IT OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT WE'RE JUST, I MEAN, WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOW, NORMALLY, UH, YOU TRY TO THINK OF, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S UM, YOU TRIED TO AT LEAST LET HIM KNOW THAT HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SENDING UP THE POLE.
THEY STILL HAVE THE, THE FREEDOM TO GO BEFORE THE NEXT BODY PLANNING AND ZONING AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK THEY PARKED MORE WAS UNFAIR TO ME OR I DON'T LIKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.
AND THEY GET TO TAKE A STAB AT IT AS WELL.
AND THE SAME CONVERSATION WILL HAPPEN ONE MORE TIME AT CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE CAN TELL THEM, SUGGEST, RECOMMEND WHATEVER WE THINK IS BEST FOR THE CITIZENRY IN THAT AREA BASED ON OUR EXPERTISE AS PARKS, BOARD MEMBERS AND INPUT FROM STAFF.
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IN SOME AREAS IS, UH, WHAT'LL HAPPEN IS STAFF WILL SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU KNOW THIS WHEN WE LISTEN TO STAFF BECAUSE THEY'RE THE GUYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE SAY WE WANT THIS ALL IS PUBLIC PARKLAND.
WELL STAFF MAY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, Y'ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THIS DETENTION POND AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS PARKLAND.
AND WE GOT TO TRY TO GET DOWN IN MAINE AND MOE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
OR IT'S JUST UNDESIRABLE AND PARKLAND.
AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE WHAT THEY SAY UNDER ADVISEMENT BUT WE CAN MAKE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION WE WANT GETS APPROVE, APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE WANT NEWLY AFTER YOU ENUMERATE THE CONDITIONS OR DO YOU JUST SAY APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS? WELL WE WOULD WANT TO STAY SPECIFICALLY WITH CLARITY WHAT THOSE UH, CONDITIONS ON IN OUR FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU AMEND OR DISAPPROVE, I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CAN ALWAYS APPROVE WITH THEM.
YOU CAN ALWAYS AMEND IT AND AVOID THAT.
THIS IS APPROVAL BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I COULD DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN BETWEEN THE TWO AND UNDERSTAND
CLAUDIA AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED? DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF CHALLENGING, YOU KNOW, SITTING IN THE LIVING ROOM HAVING TO, AND HOLD ON A SECOND, WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS YET.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? BODY? NO, I WAS JUST THINKING THAT MAYBE THEY NEED, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY NEED SOME TIME BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
MAYBE DO SOME RESEARCH ON WHAT THE DEVELOPER DOES WANT TO DO.
CAUSE I, IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE UM, THE WAY THAT IT WAS PROPOSED IS ACTUALLY WHAT THEY REALLY WANT.
LIKE THEY MIGHT HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD THE, THE APPLICATION, THE PROCESS.
AND SO, UM, AND I, I GET WHERE
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THEY'RE COMING FROM.LET ME THROW THIS OUT AT EVERYONE AS WELL, BUT THEY WANT TO TRY TO DO IS TO CONTINUE MOVING THEIR, THEIR PROJECT, WHICH I I GET THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE, IT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S STILL GOING BACK TO WHAT WE THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PARTS DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE AND THE CITIZENS OF MISSOURI CITY AND FUTURE CITIZENS THERE AS WELL.
AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR CHARGE RIGHT THERE.
MY, MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT, WHAT DOES THIS, WHAT DOES STAFF LOOK AT WHEN THEY GET A PARK THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE PUBLIC LAND? LIKE I MEAN, AS, AS A BOARD, HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS EVEN SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE FROM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, THAT THE CITY MOODS AND THAT TYPICALLY IS WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL, UH, LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL AND THEN WE WOULD, UM, GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT, AT THE LAND.
SO THE LAST TIME THAT THIS HAPPENED WAS, UM, WE GOT 10 ACRES ON HAGGERSTON ROAD, UH, THAT WAS, UH, PROPOSED AS, AS PUBLIC PARK.
AND SO IT WAS GIVEN TO US AS A PROPOSAL AND THEN WE WENT OUT, UH, TO THE TERM OF THE QUALITY OF THE LAND.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WASN'T ALL IN A FLOOD WAY OR IN A FLOOD PLAIN OR WAS IT, YOU KNOW, DOES IT DRAIN OR IS IT GOING TO BE A SWAMP WHEN IT RAINS OR DOES IT HOLD WATER? YOU KNOW, HOW EASY OR EXPENSIVE WOULD IT BE TO DEVELOP IT OR TO NOT DEVELOP IT? OR IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME PUBLIC GOOD AND PUBLIC USE FOR THIS PROPERTY? SO WE WOULD GO OUT AND WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, THE QUALITY OF THE LAND, THE, THE QUALITY OF THE DRAINAGE AND THE QUALITY OF THE TREES.
UM, AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION IF THAT WOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR, FOR A PUBLIC PARK.
AND THEN IF WE DETERMINED YET WE, WE, WE FEEL LIKE THAT THIS AREA OF TOWN, A NEAT PARKLAND AND THIS WOULD BE SUITABLE OR GOOD PARKLAND.
UM, THEN WE WOULD THEN WE WOULD, UH, WORK WITH THAT DEVELOPER TO, UM, TO MAKE THE PROPOSAL AS SUCH.
NOW WE'VE HAD SOME DEVELOPERS WHERE THEY'VE, UM, WHERE THEY'VE GONE AHEAD AND DEVELOPED THAT LAND, UM, AS, UM, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT IT'S STILL OUR, OUR PUBLIC, UH, UH, PUBLIC PARK, UM, DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER THEY, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED THAT LAND DEVELOPED BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE WE GET PARKLAND DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DEVELOP A PARK.
SO, UM, THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THAT AND, UH, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD GO OUT AND ASSESS THE LAND FOR SURE IF IT WERE TO BECOME PUBLIC, UM, PUBLIC PARK, SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP.
SO MY QUESTION, MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO TO, LET'S SAY GO ON A PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE NOW, WE WERE TO, TO VOTE WITH NOLA OR WHATNOT AND WE WANTED TO, CAN WE GET STAMPS RECOMMENDATION? SO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE FOR THE CITY BEFORE WE EVEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION FOR IT TO BE A PUBLIC LAND.
DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH.
SO WE WOULD, IF YOU GUYS, IF YOU GUYS WERE TO DENY THIS, UM, I'M SURE, UM, MR. WILLIAMS WOULD BE IN CONTACT WITH OUR DEPARTMENT AND WE WOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT, AND WHAT HIS CLIENT WANTS TO DO.
UM, IF, IF THE DETERMINATION WAS THAT, UH, YEAH, WE DO, WE, WE, WE HAVE THE INTENTION TO NOT PAY THE 490,000.
WE HAVE THE INTENTION TO MAKE THIS PUBLIC PARKLAND THEN THEN WE WOULD HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
SO WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GOING AND TAKING A LOOK AT THAT LAND, UH, AND MAKING SURE IT WAS A GOOD FIT AND GOOD, UM, AN ASSET FOR OUR, FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
AND AS A BOARD, WILL WE GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF ON THAT BEFORE WE VOTE? LET'S SAY IF THIS WILL COME TO VOTE NEXT MONTH.
WE WOULD DEFINITELY TELL YOU WHAT WE, WHAT WE THINK OF.
SO WHAT THAT, I MEAN THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR, IT SEEMS TO ME AS YOU KNOW, GIVE THE DEVELOPER A CHANCE TO, TO, UH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO GIVE THE DEVELOPER A CHANCE TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS LAND PRIVATE OR PUBLIC AND ASK STAFF TO GIVE THE PARKS BOARD A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE IS
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BEST SUITED FOR THE LAND BEFORE WE REC.WE MAKE A VOTE ON THE DEVELOPER'S NEW RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF I SAID THAT CORRECTLY, I AGREE WITH YOU LESS THAN THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE BEST OPTION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY DEVELOPER, JASON GOLDBERG.
WHAT'S BEST FOR BOTH AND WE DEFINITELY HAVE AN AREA LIKE THAT FOR CHILDREN.
I MEAN IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE NEED TO STUDY THE STUDY, THE, THE ASPECT OF IT BEING A PUBLIC LAND TO EVEN MAKE A DECISION.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WHETHER FOR THE APPLICANT DONE.
SO QUESTIONS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND TIME IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT.
WHAT IS YOUR, IS IT CAUSING THE HEART BURN FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH? WELL, IT'S A TRICKY SITUATION.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO CAUSE THE CITY HEARTBURN TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT MONTH.
UM, THE CURRENT LATEST PARKLAND DEDICATION IS HOLDING UP OUR FIRST FINAL PLAT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CONSIST OF THAT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH IS 275 UNITS AS WELL AS THE FIRE STATION.
AND THAT'S A FIRE STATION SIDE THAT THE CITY PICKED OUT AND IT WELWYN DESIGN ON IT AND THEY'RE WAITING ON US TO GET THEM A FINAL PLAT TO CONVEY THAT LAND.
AND PART OF THAT, SINCE THE RESIDENTIAL IS INCLUDED, IS STARTING OUT ON THIS PARKLAND DEDICATION.
LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION OF YOU, JASON, I WANT TO, I WANT TO GO BACK AND ASK THIS QUESTION.
SO UH, OR MR WE CAN, I GOT IT.
LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS ON THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED.
YOU PRETTY MUCH, BUT EIGHT, ALMOST 28 DOES LOOK LIKE PARKLAND, IT'S OVER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT ROADWAY.
IS ANY OF THAT ENCOMPASSING LIKE SOME DETENTION AND WHAT HAVE YOU? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND I THINK I'D INCLUDED A TABLE ON, ON PAGE TWO OF OUR REPORT AND A GOOD PROXIMATELY 15.7 ACRES OF THAT IS DETENTION.
AND THE IDEA WITH THAT IS THAT WOULD BE IN THAT NORTHEAST CORNER PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THAT AREA THAT SAYS 12.5 ACRES.
AND PART OF THAT ONE THAT SAYS 3.5 WOULD IT BE YOUR DETENTION AREA? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEN, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT REALLY THE AREA THAT YOU CALLED ART AS YOUR, THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT A THREE OR FOUR ACRE TRACK RIGHT THERE, CORRECT.
THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PORTION THAT WHERE MOST OF THE UNENCUMBERED LAND IS.
AND SO, UH, AGAIN I'M GOING TO, UH, WELL I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM MS. ROSS.
HUH? I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU.
IS THIS, AND I'M ONLY GOING TO ASKING YOU ALL THESE QUESTIONS TO NEW MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU INFORMATION TO HELP YOU THROUGH THIS, THIS PROCESS BEING THE FIRST ONE ON THE ZOOM MEETING, PARKLAND DEDICATION.
IT'S, UM, UNLIKING THE QUESTIONS AND I'M LIKING WHAT I'M HEARING, THE BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME I GET A QUESTION SOMEONE ASKS IT AND I GET THE ANSWER.
SO I'VE GOTTEN LUCKY SO FAR, GOTTEN KIND OF LUCKY SO FAR.
I, UM, IT'S JUST THAT I HAVE A LITTLE HEARTBURN ACTUALLY, UM, WITH HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I'M VERY, VERY NEW, SO I'M VERY, VERY NEW, SO IT'S OKAY.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WHAT'S GOOD IS THAT IT'S MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE HAD SOMEBODY IS ALREADY AT, SO I LOOKED OUT, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO, OKAY, THANK YOU MA'AM.
SO JASON, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU STANDPOINT OF JUST LISTENING, LISTENING TO THE APPLICANT AND, AND THEY JUST, AND I KIND OF FIGURED THAT, I MEAN WHEN I READ IT, UH, THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T QUITE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN THEY SAID PRIVATE.
AND THEY DIDN'T MENTION THE MONEY THAT THEY WERE THINKING OF DOING.
PROBABLY THEIR, THEIR ASSESSMENT JUST AS INCORRECT LISTENING TO, MMM, LET'S SEE WHAT I SEE ALL I CAN, I CAN CALL EVERYBODY'S NAME OUT NOW
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LISTENING TO RAJ AND VICTORIA, THEIR CONCERN WAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC PARKLAND IN THAT AREA, WHICH THEY ALL TALKING ABOUT A CONCEPTUAL QUIET THAT THAT'S HASN'T DEFINED IT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE CONCEPTUAL DOWN NOW.UH, AND WE'RE DEALING WITH PROBABLY 25 ACRES OF AREA.
AND I WENT ON AND LOOKED, I TOOK A STEP FURTHER WHILE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS.
UH, I KIND OF LOOK AT THINGS EVEN FROM, FROM WHEN I GOT TO SIT ON THAT SIDE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HOW MUCH OF THAT PARKLAND WAS JUST TOTALLY UNENCUMBERED, UNENCUMBERED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, OF WETLANDS AS WELL IF I WENT TO THE WHITE LAND VIEWER JUST TO CHECK IT OUT.
AND SO I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE'S ANY WETLANDS, UH, MAJOR WETLANDS OF ANYTHING OF ANY SORT REALLY THAT WOULD AFFECT THIS.
SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, JASON, WOULD YOU SAY FROM A CITY STANDPOINT AND I WENT STRAIGHT VIEWED IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S MORE BARE LAND THAN ANYTHING.
UM, WOULD YOU SAY ANY PROBLEMS WITH HAVING A PUBLIC PARK? AND I'M NOT SAYING SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT, IT, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S 25 ACRES REALLY.
THEY'RE, THEY, THEY'VE KIND OF HAVE ON THERE, BUT DO YOU SEE ANY ISSUES WITH HAVING ANY TYPE OF A FIVE OR SEVEN ACRE PUBLIC, EVEN IF IT'S PUBLIC, PRIVATE PARKLAND OVER IN THAT AREA PER SE? DO YOU SEE A BENEFIT WITH HAVING A PUBLIC PARK OVER THERE, THAT AREA? UM, I, I ABSOLUTELY SEE A BENEFIT TO HAVING A PUBLIC PARK IN THAT AREA FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UM, AGAIN, TO, TO REWIND THIS MEETING OF A FEW MINUTES WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT MINIMUM NUMBER OF ACREAGE OF PUBLIC PARK.
UM, WE WOULD WANT THAT TO BE A MINIMUM OF FIVE ACRES, UH, TO, TO BE A PUBLIC PARK, UH, BEING, BEING THE FACT THAT, UM, THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PARKLAND IN THIS AREA AND THERE IS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
UM, WE, WE, I MEAN, WE WOULD HOPE FOR, WE WOULD HOPE FOR MORE, UH, PARKLAND OR MAYBE THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON HOW THAT, HOW THAT DETENTION HAS DEVELOPED, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED AS PARKLINE DURING DRY TIMES.
UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PARKLAND IN THAT AREA.
UM, IT HAS GREAT ACCESS, UH, FOR, FOR PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, IT'S A NEW AND A GROWING AREA.
YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE OPERATIONS AND OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET AND OUR OPERATIONAL MANPOWER, UH, BEING ABLE TO, UM, TO, TO MAINTAIN AND TO, UH, TO KEEP, TO, TO KEEP ADDITIONAL PARTS WITHOUT HAVING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT WE ANSWERED.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE AT A HIGHER PAY GRADE THAN WE ARE, UH, THAT I AM, UH, THAT WE WOULD NEED TO, WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT OUR OPERATIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, PROPERLY MAINTAIN THAT NEW PARK.
SO WE WOULD BENEFIT WITH HAVING A PUBLIC PARK IN THAT AREA FOR SURE.
I JUST, I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THAT THAT'S REALLY WHERE IT WAS GOING IN.
SPEAKING FINANCIALLY AT THE D, THE LAND IS DEDICATED PUBLICLY TO MISSOURI CITY.
IT'S JUST DEDICATED AND WE ASSUME ALL, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY, AND THE MONEY ASPECT AND THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THINGS, THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING TO THE CITY IF THEY DID.
I MEAN WITH THAT FIVE ACRES, IF THEY DEVELOP A MINUTE, THEY DEDICATE THE FIVE ACRES TO MISSOURI CITY, THEY'RE DEDICATED AND THE LAND AND WE DO WANT IT AS WE PLEASE, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY WE DON'T GET MONEY FOR THAT FIVE ACRES.
THAT'S BASICALLY MY QUESTION FROM THE DEVELOPER.
WELL WELL THE, THE, THE NECESSARY, THE, THE, THE DEDICATION WOULD NEED TO BE SEVEN ACRES.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE, BECAUSE OF ITS, ITS, ITS ONE ACRE PER EVERY A HUNDRED DWELLING UNITS.
SO, SO THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE SEVEN ACRES.
UM, BUT, BUT UH, THEY, THEY WOULD MEET THAT WITH SOME OF THOSE ENCUMBRANCES AS WELL.
UM, YEAH AND SO, SO YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY AT THE TIME, THEN WE SIT ON IT AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE DOZENS, HUNDREDS OF ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED PARKLAND IN THE CITY.
UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO
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MAINTAIN OR DEVELOP IT.UM, SO, SO THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
UM, THE DEVELOPER VOLUNTEER TO DEVELOP IT AS A PARK, UH, AS A PUBLIC PARK.
IF THE, IF, IF THEY WERE, IF WE WERE GIVEN BARE LAND, WE COULD KEEP IT BARE LAND AS LONG AS WE WANTED.
THEY, THE OTHER THING I'LL ADD ON TO THE END OF THAT IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE MEETINGS, BUT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ON HERE A WHILE THAT THERE WAS NOT A PARK IN THIS AREA.
AND SO NOW WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT HAVING TO BUY LAND, UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE LAND NOW IS GOING ANYWHERE FROM 60 TO $120,000 AN ACRE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET SOME PARKLAND OVER HERE IN, IN THIS PARK ZONE DOWN THERE AT THE END OF NIGHT AND ROAD, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THOSE GUYS, THEY'RE HAPPY.
THEY'RE PROUD, THEY'RE REAL PROUD OF THAT LAND DOWN THERE.
AND SO, UH, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS AND KIND OF BACKING UP AND WHILE WE'RE HAVING THESE PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS IS IT MAY BE TO THE CITY'S ADVANTAGE TO GOING ON AND CLAIM THAT PARKLAND NOW, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT'S AT.
BECAUSE WE AT LEAST HAVE THE LAND, WHETHER WE DEVELOP THE PART THERE OR NOT.
AND I WOULD HAVE TO VENTURE THAT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO AT LEAST AT A MINIMUM, MAKE SURE THEY GET, UH, SOME PRIVATE PARKLAND IN THERE TOO BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA NEED SOME, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PROBABLY SOME TYPE OF, OF, UH, OF COMMUNITY CENTER OR SOMETHING ON THERE AS WELL.
SO WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, HOLD ON A SECOND, LET'S, WE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME LAND OVER HERE AND NOT PAY THE ENORMOUS PRICE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LAND OWNERS ARE SELLING THIS LAND FOR RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M BRINGING THIS BACK UP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I THINK THIS IS MARY ROTH.
I THINK THE PUBLIC PRIVATE THING WOULD BE, IN THIS INSTANCE, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD DEAL FIRST FROM MISSOURI CITY AND FOR THE DEVELOPER.
UM, THIS IS A LARGE, IT'S, THIS IS A LARGE DEVELOPMENT.
I TEND TO THINK ABOUT THE CITIZENS WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE MORE THAN ANYTHING, CONSIDERING THE OTHER NECESSARY THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AND UH, UH, UH, DECENT PARK SPACES TO MEET.
UM, UH, BUT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT YOU JUST SAID, LAUREN, UH, I THINK IS VERY REASONABLE.
I THINK THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT TOO.
I JUST, I HAVE A TASTE THAT I HAD TO TAKE THE SAME VERY MUCH BECAUSE I'M NOT AS, I'M NOT, UM, I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COMPARE IT TO, I HAVEN'T TAKEN UP COMPARED TO ALL ABOUT ORDINANCES AND, UH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS YET.
SO, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE SIZE OF THIS IN THE SIZE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WHERE IT IS, UM, PERSONALLY I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD SETTLE ON SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S PUBLIC AND PRIVATE TOO.
WELL, AND SO WHAT MADE ME IN THE BEST INTEREST, AND I'M JUST GOING TO THROW IT OUT THERE, RIGHT.
WRANGLE ME IN A BOARD MEMBERS, WHEN YOU ALL, UH, I FEEL LIKE I'M OFF THE RESERVATION AND TOO FAR OFF THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW.
UH, AND FROM WHAT I'M GATHERING FROM LISTENING TO EVERYONE'S CONVERSATION, I THINK, UH, I'VE HEARD, I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH HEARD THOMAS SAYING, I DIDN'T HEAR FROM, I HADN'T HEARD YOU.
YOU'VE BEEN PRETTY QUIET BACKGROUND, BUT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT TO MAYBE, UH, AGAIN WE GET TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MAY ACCEPT PUBLIC PARKLAND.
AM I, AM I SENSING THAT RIGHT? THAT WE ACCEPTED WE OUR RECOMMENDATION BE TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC PARK IN THAT AREA.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT AS A MOTION? YES.
KIM, CAN WE SAY THAT WE CONDITION IN CONDITION OF HAVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF? SO WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS HANDLING AND RAJI CAN SPEND TWO HOURS ON THE FLOOR RISE.
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YOU CAN MAKE THAT MOTION.LAWS WERE, UH, THAT WERE ACCEPTED AS PARKLAND PUBLIC PARKLAND, SUITABLE FOR USE BASED ON STAFF'S CONFIRMATION OF USABLE SPACE.
YOU CAN MAKE THAT AS A MOTION.
AND, AND IT CAN BE SECOND AND THEN WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND GO FROM THERE.
THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY AS YOU STATED.
SO RAJ HAS MADE A MOTION THAT WE DO A RECOMMENDATION FOR A PUBLIC PARK LAND THAT IS IN A LOCATION BY THE STAFF.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BALL NOW IT'S OPEN NOW IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION REAL QUICK.
JAMES, IS THAT LEGIT? IS THAT OKAY? YEAH.
WELL I THOUGHT WE HAD TO VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT WAS PROPOSED TO US.
SO LET'S SAY AT WORDS, ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, RAJ MADE A MOTION.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO FOLLOW WHAT THE APPLICANTS OF METAL.
ROB SAID RIGHT AMONG DON SECOND AND NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING IT.
AND THE MOTION ON THE TABLE THERE IS TO APPROVE A PUBLIC PARK WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THE OBJECT TO STAFF POOLING THE LOCATION
WHAT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? I MEAN THEY CAN GIVE US TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND WE MAY FEEL LIKE WE MAY NOT WANT IT PUBLIC.
I'M JUST SAYING IT TO APPROVE IT AS PUBLIC NOW WITHOUT GETTING THEIR, THEIR OPINION ON THE LAND.
YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S KIND OF LIKE I WOULDN'T WANT TO VOTE ON IT BASICALLY WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE LAND COULD REALLY BE USED FOR OR WHAT IT WOULD WORK FOR THE CITY FINANCIALLY WHEN IT WORKED FOR THE CITY IS ATLANTA IS JUST GOING TO SIT THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO AFFORD TO BUILD IT TO UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO AFFORD TO MAKE IT A PARK WHERE PEOPLE CAN USE IT.
I MEAN THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I WOULD WANT TO KNOW BEFORE WE SAY WE WILL MAKE IT PUBLIC CAUSE THE CITY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE LAND AND IT MAY BE BEST THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT THE DEVELOPER USES, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPS WITH THE LAND.
THIS GUY IN EFFECT GETS APPRENTICE AT ME.
WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT AS FAR AS MOWING AND ALL THAT.
UNTIL, YEAH, I THINK HE'S AFRAID FOR PUBLIC.
THAT'S A BIG RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR PARKS AND OUR TAXES ARE ALREADY HIGH.
SO WE HAVE, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE LOTS, NO, THEY WILL NOT BE GOING OUT THERE.
THE DAY IS DEDICATED TO THIS AND STAFF WILL WRANGLE ME AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND START MOLDING.
WE HAVE LOTS OF, THIS WILL BE UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT WE'LL HAVE IN OUR WARD CHEST THAT ONCE THE AREA IS DEVELOPED, THE AREA'S GOT, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT A SEVEN ON OUR HOME.
THEY AIN'T SELLING 700 700 HOMES FOR, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM SEVERAL YEARS TO SELL THEM.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE THAT LAND IN OUR LAND BANK JUST LIKE WE DO IN SEVERAL OTHER PLACES.
THEY DON'T MOW IT IN THOSE CASES DEPENDING ON WHERE IT'S AT AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE GETTING TRACKS OF THAT SIZE, UNTIL IT'LL GO INTO OUR COFFERS AS ANOTHER ASSET THAT WE HAVE.
AND UH, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS ONCE THERE'S ENOUGH NUMBERS THERE AND EITHER IN A BOND OR ANYTHING ELSE, THAT'S WHEN THE PART GETS DEVELOPED.
WE DO HAVE, AS JASON SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF ACRES THAT HAVE PARKLAND THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T DEVELOPED YET.
BUT WE HAVE IT AS AN ASSET SUCH THAT WHEN IT'S TIME AND DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED THERE, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BUY THE LAND AND START OVER FROM GROUND ZERO.
WE ALREADY GOT THE LAND AND NOW WE'VE FIGURED OUT, WELL HOW WE WANT TO DO DEVELOP IT.
ARE WE GOING TO PUT A SOCCER FIELD OUT THERE, PUT A DOG PARK OUT THERE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PUT, YOU KNOW, PASS THE PARK OR WHATEVER.
BUT IT WILL BE ADDED TO OUR PARK MASTER PLAN.
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TO, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, LAND IS IMPORTANT.THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT WE GO OUT AND PHYSICALLY MOW IT.
PRISTINE LIKE THE YARD THOUGH WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT SIZE OF TRACK, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT BALL GAME RIGHT THERE.
WELL MY CONCERN IS, OKAY, MY CONCERN IS ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT WANTS TO NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AND WE HAVEN'T AND IT IS A PUBLIC PARK, IT IS PUBLIC LAND THAT THE CITY OWNS TO DEDICATE IT TO, TO MAKE IT A PARK.
MY CONCERN IS IF THE CITY ISN'T READY TO MAKE AN A PARK, IT WILL JUST BE LAND SITTING THERE AND THE RESIDENTS WON'T HAVE, WILL NOT HAVE THAT LAND AS APART FOR A WHILE UNTIL WE ABLE TO AFFORD IT AS A CITY.
THAT'S WHY I WAS, THAT'S WHY I WAS SUGGESTING THAT WE GET RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF.
YOU KNOW, IF WE DO ACQUIRE THIS LAND AS PUBLIC LAND, WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE BUILT TO BE UTILIZED BY THE RESIDENTS? YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT POSSIBLY BE? BECAUSE IF ALL WE CAN AFFORD AS A WALKING TRAIL, AS A CITY FOR THAT LAND AND THE DEVELOPERS AND IF THE DEVELOPER GETS IT AND MAKE AND PUTS UP PLAYGROUND THERE FOR CHILDREN, THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT SO THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE YOUNG KIDS THERE.
CAN BE GET STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION IF WE WANT TO MAKE IT PUBLIC.
BUT, BUT, BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, IF, IF THAT, IF THAT PARKLAND IS PRIVATE, THAT'S PRIVATE PARKLAND, THEN THEN THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO PAY THE CITY $490,000, UM, TO, TO MAKE, TO KEEP THAT PARK THEN PRIVATE.
UM, NOW, NOW THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND HAVE SOME SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, HYBRID WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY DEVELOP IT LIKE THEY'RE PLANNING ON ANYWAYS, UM, WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US.
AND THEN WE JUST TAKE ON THE MAINTENANCE.
UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN GO ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.
I WOULD MAKE MY RECOMMENDATION TO VICTORIA.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UM, WE COULD, UH, THAT THEY DO DEDICATE THE SEVEN ACRES OF PUBLIC LAND AND DO A, UH, PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE TO WORK WITH THE CITY, UM, TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN AND ENJOY AND THAT THE DEVELOPER TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THEM AS WELL.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA SELL HOMES TO, TO, TO DECREPIT THE LAND SITTING NEXT TO THEM.
UM, YEAH, IT'S NOT GOING TO BRING IN, IT'S NOT GONNA BRING IN THE ADDITIONAL HOMES.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL TAX DOLLARS.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP ANYBODY FOR IT TO SIT AND, UM, LOOK UNMAINTAINED OR SO IF THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO, UM, GET THE LAND DEDICATED TO THE CITY, UM, AND THEN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP THAT LAND SO THAT IT, IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OCCUPYING THAT SPACE AND THE BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND THEN WE WORK ON THE MAINTENANCE PART, LIKE JASON, JASON SAID.
SO WE HAVE, WELL WE HAVE A MOTION, SO LET, LET ME WRANGLE A BACK END THROUGH THE ROBERTSON BOULEVARD.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND WE CAN'T ACCEPT THE NEW RECOMMENDATIONS.
NOW MAYBE ROGER, HE CAN MAKE, HE MAY WANT TO MODIFY HIS RECOMMENDATION, LIKE IN FACT KIND OF WRANGLING BACK.
SO WE GOTTA DEAL WITH THOSE TWO FIRST.
AND SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW IS TO ACCEPT THE PUBLIC PARKLAND AND FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THE LOCATION.
AND SOUNDS LIKE VICTORIA, YOU AND LESLIE HAVE KIND OF ADDED A COPY OUT THAT THE DEVELOPER WORK WITH THE STAFF ON HOW TO DEVELOP THAT.
EMMA, DID I STATE STATED CORRECTLY? YES, YES.
SO, BUT ROD, SO THEIR MOTION, IT'S BASICALLY YOUR MOTION WITH A CAVEAT.
IF UH, IF I'M GOING TO STATE STATED, RIGHT, THEY, THEY'RE WANTING TO ADD A CAVEAT TO YOUR MOTION TO ACCEPTED THE LAND AS PUBLIC PARKLAND AND
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STAFF WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER BUT ALSO ADD AN AGREEMENT OF SOME SORT THAT THEY WORK TOGETHER ON MAINTENANCE.DUDE, NO, THAT'S NOT, DO WE HAVE TO SAY IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC AT THIS MOMENT? LIKE DO WE HAVE TO CHOOSE IF IT HAS, IF THE LAND HAS TO BE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE TONIGHT? SO THE MO, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW IS TO EXTEND IT AS PUBLIC PARKLAND WITH STAFF INPUT ON THE LOCATION.
THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
AND THEN IT WAS UP FOR DISCUSSIONS AND WHAT THE DISCUSSION CAME YOUR COMMENTS AND VICTORIA'S COMMENT, WHICH THEY STILL KIND OF BAILED IN LINE WITH WHAT THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS.
SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE AN AMENDING MOTION, UM, AND SORRY, THIS IS JAMES AGAIN.
UM, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE AN AMENDING MOTION AND SECOND, THEN Y'ALL CAN VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN VOTE ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION.
SO YOU'D BE MAKING YOUR MENDING.
AND ANYBODY CAN MAKE AN AMENDING MOTION TO UH, MR JOSEPH'S, UH, ORIGINAL MOTION AND THEN, YEAH.
SO IF THE AMENDMENT THERE REQUIRES A MOTION AND A SECOND TO A MAN, BUT IF THAT'S VOTED ON AND THE AMENDMENT PASSES, THEN YOU ALL CAN VOTE ON THE MAIN MOTION AS A METHOD.
WELL, COULD HE, COULD HE JUST AMEND HIS MOTION? YEAH.
BUT WE HAVE TO VOTE THAT THE AMENDMENT IS APPROVED OR NOT LIKE AS A GROUP BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION.
NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT RAJ COULD SAY, I WANT TO AMEND MY MOTION.
SO YEAH, SO THEY MAY SEE A PROBLEM RIGHT AT I THINK THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT IS UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION TO AMEND THEN UM, I THINK THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO THEY'RE MINE.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN LIKE I SAID, VOTE ON THE MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED.
THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT'S TYPICALLY GOES.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW STRINGENT WE ARE HERE BUT BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE WE, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND AND DISCUSSION AND THEN WE DO, EVEN IF IT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW AN AMENDING MOTION WORKS IF, BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU HAVE TO VOTE AND THEN YOU THEN SOMEONE CAN MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IN THE MAKER OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO ACCEPTED.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE MEN.
SO IS THAT HOW IT'S MADE BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION? I'LL BE SURE ABOUT THAT.
OR DOES IT, DOES IT HAVE TO MATTER THAT MUCH? NO, THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS STILL ON THE TABLE, BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, A MOTION TO AMEND CAN BE TAKEN UP, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY BEFORE THE MAIN MOTION IS PASSED AS AMENDED.
THE AMENDING MOTION JUST KIND OF SUPPLEMENTS.
HOW ABOUT THIS, HOW ABOUT THIS DOG CAN WITHDRAW HIS SECOND.
RAJ CAN WITHDRAW HIS MOTION AND HE RESTATED AS MUCH TO CAPTURE WHATEVER WE WANT TO.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE MR ATTORNEY? YES.
DON, DO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW FROM MY SECOND TO THE MOTION? IT'S, I WITHDRAW MY OVEN AND MY, UM, MOTION.
HOW CAN WE AS A BOARD RECOMMEND THE LAND BE PUBLIC WITHOUT KNOWING IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO BE PUBLIC? YES.
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IT'S JUST THE RECOMMENDATION, LESLIE, AT THIS POINT.I MEAN, IF FOR SOME REASON TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAND, UM, BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE RECOMMEND THAT THEY TALK TOGETHER AND SEE IF, IF IT, IF THE LAND THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DEDICATE IS WORTHWHILE TO THE CITY THEN, AND THEY, THE, THE CITY, UM, OUR FOLKS, THE PARKS FOLKS LOOK AT IT AND THEY SAY, HMM, THIS IS NOT REALLY THIS, THIS, THIS LAND RIGHT HERE WOULD BE IDEAL.
UM, CAN WE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT ALLOWS THAT CONVERSATION I THINK TO KIND OF MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND NOT HOLD UP THE DEVELOPER SO MUCH.
LIKE IF THEY CAN START HAVING A DISCUSSION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, I WOULD IMAGINE.
IT JUST, I THINK WE'RE JUST KIND OF STATING THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE, IN MY OPINION AND JUST SAYING IT THE WAY IT IS, WE'RE KIND OF RECOMMENDING THAT WE CAPTURE SOME LAND, UM, BEFORE IT'S ALL GONE.
UM, AND THEN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE IT THE BEST FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, AND THEN, SO THAT IT'S A USABLE SPACE.
IT'S THAT IT'S IDEAL SPACE FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GONNA LIVE THERE, INCLUDING THE CITY, THE CITIZENS OF MISSOURI CITY.
IS THAT YOUR MOTION? YEAH, THAT'S MY MOTION.
CLAUDIA
I KNOW I'M JUST A STICKLER FOR WRITING IT THE WAY THAT THE WAVES, THE NOTES HERE.
THE MOTION WOULD BE TO, FOR THE DEVELOPER AND FOR THE CITY TO WORK ON, UM, UH, FINDING THE RIGHT PIECE OF LAND AND THE IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AND WORK ON PARTNERING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP THAT, THAT PROPERTY TO BENEFIT THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS OF THAT, OF THAT, UM, THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA.
LET ME ADD THIS SET APART TO, THIS COMES BACK TO US.
THIS IS JUST THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO SAY, HERE'S THE GENERAL AREA.
THIS DEAL COMES BACK TO US TO TAKE ANOTHER SWAB AT IT.
SO YOU DON'T SEE, YOU'LL SEE THIS AGAIN.
THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME YOU SEE IT.
THAT'S ONE I'M SURE IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS MOTION IS COMPLETELY CAUSE I COULDN'T GET IT ALL DOWN.
SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO EXTENT THE LAND, THE PUBLIC PARKLAND AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE OR THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THE LOCATION.
DID I CAPTURE YOU RIGHT VICTORIA? YES.
AND POTENTIALLY DEVELOP, DEVELOP THAT TOGETHER.
CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION FOR THEIR PARKLAND DEDICATION.
ARE WE ACCEPTING THAT IN PART? ARE WE IGNORING THAT ON A WHOLE DIFFERENT TRAIL? NO, NO.
WE'RE MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION.
IT SAYS CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION OR PARKWAY POLICY IN PARKLAND DEDICATION.
AND SO VICTORIA HAS JUST MADE A MOTION THAT ADDRESSED IS THAT AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE WE GET TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, PROPOSE IT AS PRIVATE.
SO ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE MISSOURI RECOMMENDATION WERE ACCEPTING, NO, WE'RE NOT.
WE'RE SAYING, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
WE'RE TELLING THEM WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
THEY DID A PRESENTATION, IT WAS NICE, BUT HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DEDICATE IT AS PUBLIC PARKLAND AND WORK WITH OUR STAFF.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TELLING THEM WE'RE GOING TO, THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.
AND THIS STILL GOES THROUGH TO OTHER BODIES AS WELL, RIGHT? WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT.
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ACTION AT ALL, DOESN'T IT GO TO THE NEXT BODY AND THEN YEAH, IT GOES AS A DENIAL.THE CITY ORDINANCE REQUIRES A, A RECOMMENDATION OF SOME SORT.
AND I HAVE A STATED BEFORE, IT COULD BE EITHER APPROVED, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS OR DIFFICULT WHAT CONDITIONS.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING A CONDITION ON IT.
ARE WE NOT? ISN'T THAT A GIFT TO WHAT WE'RE DOING? YEAH.
THEN WE ARE NUMERATE THAT CONDITION.
MY RIGHT HAND MAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE MOST, THE RECOMMENDATION.
APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS AND THE CONDITION BEING WHAT YOU STATED, THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER, I GUESS.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE PUBLIC PARKLAND.
I'M WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THE LOCATION AND PORTERS.
YEAH, IF I STATED IT ALL, IF I CAPTURED IT ALL IN THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE BY VICTORIA WHO WAS SICK AND BY, I FORGOT WHO.
SO THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY VICTORIA SECOND BY CLAUDIA.
ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL FOR THE VOTE? ALL RIGHT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I'LL ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY MAY.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
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TO ITEM EIGHT.WE'LL START WITH, UH, MR. SO, RANDY, YOU'RE THERE.
I DON'T HAVE MY REPORT IN FRONT OF ME.
BUT ANYWAY, I'VE PROVIDED THAT IT'S GOT SOME UPDATED INFORMATION ON THE AMERICAN LEGION PROJECT.
UM, SOME PROPOSALS, SOME THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON FOR THE MOSLEY PROJECT AND I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE REST OF IT.
THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PARTS, SIGNAGE THAT'S COMING UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS FOR RANDY ON HIS, UH, REPORT A LOT ABOUT THE AMERICAN LEGION PARK AND CHARLES, ANYTHING ABOUT IT? UM, I WAS OUT THERE THAT THE NAME, UH, SO FAR IF YOU HADN'T BEEN OUT THERE IN A WHILE, UH, WE DO HAVE A CONCRETE ROADWAY COMING INTO THE PARK NOW.
THERE'S A CONCRETE PARKING LOT IN THE PARK.
UH, UTILITIES HAVE BEEN RUN UH, INTO THAT THOUGH THE SEWAGE OUT OF PAVILION AND INSTALLED, FINISHED UP, UH, YESTERDAY.
IT'S GOT SOME ELECTRICAL STUFF TO DO TO IT.
PART OF THE CONCRETE PAD UNDER THE PAVILION IS, IS IMPORTANT.
THERE'S A SIDEWALK LEADING DOWN TO THE MEMORIAL CIRCLE.
THE RESTROOM BUILDING, UM, IS PROBABLY A WEEK OR SO OUT FROM BEING DELIVERED.
ONCE THAT IS DONE AND FINAL CONNECTIONS AND STUFF, WE MADE SOME CONCRETE WORK AND UH, IT SHOULDN'T BE REALLY CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETED WITH THAT PROJECT.
THE PARK IS EFFECTIVELY CLOSED DOWN.
WELL PEOPLE ARE COMING IN, UH, LATE MAKING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE FROM THE APARTMENT SIDE USING THE JOGGING TRAIL OF, I SAW SOME PEOPLE OUT FISHING THE OTHER EVENING AND UM, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT TOTALLY SHUT DOWN, BUT, UM, IT'S KIND OF LIMITED TO THE TRAIL IN AND AROUND LAKE.
BUT I, THE ACCESS OFF THE MAIN ROAD, UH, I FORGOT THE MAIN ROAD THAT'S BOARDED UP.
THERE'S SOME BARRICADES OF WHEN IF CERTAIN WORK IS GOING ON AND CONTRACTOR KIND OF CLOSES A ROAD DOWN SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T COME
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UP INTO THE PARKING LOT DUTY, JUST CONGESTION AND SAFETY REASONS.BUT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WALK INTO THE PARK, UH, THEY WILL RIDDEN A BICYCLE INTO THE PARK.
THEY HAVE TO MAKE A LITTLE DIVERSION WHEN THEY GET TO A CERTAIN POINT BECAUSE THERE'S CONSTRUCTION FENCE AROUND WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING.
SO THAT'S WHY MOST PEOPLE COME IN FROM THE APARTMENT SIDE OF SOME PEOPLE I'VE SEEN COME IN FROM THE CHURCH PARKING LOT ON THE BACK SIDE OVER THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON OVER.
YOU, YOUR REPORT FOR US? YES, IT'S IN THE PACKET.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? VERY BUSY.
VERY KIND OF COME UP WITH A NEW LINE.
ALRIGHT, NO QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN, UH, CITIES, UH, PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, RENEWALS, EVENTS HAVE ALL BEEN CANCELED, UH, AS OF MARCH 13TH.
UM, SO THAT'S BEEN A BIG, UH, YOU KNOW, ISSUE WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE LEAST OF EVERYONE'S CONCERNS, BUT, UM, IT HAS AFFECTED, UH, OUR STAFF AND OUR, UM, PROGRAMS AND EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD SCHEDULED.
UH, BUT DURING THAT TIME WE HAVE DONE SOME THINGS AT THE FACILITIES, UM, TO KIND OF GIVE THEM AN UPLIFT OF THAN A HEAVY DISINFECTION, DEEP CLEANING OF, UH, ALL THE FITNESS AREAS, GYMNASIUMS, THE ROOMS, THE EQUIPMENT, THE TABLES AND CHAIRS.
UM, THE PUBLIC AREAS, THE RESTROOMS. UM, WE'VE HAD, UH, SOME NEW GYMNASIUM BLEACHERS INSTALLED, UH, LAST WEEK, UM, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REMOVE THE OLD, UH, BLEACHERS, WHICH WERE, UM, OUTDOOR ALUMINUM BLEACHERS TO BEGIN WITH AND WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP THOSE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEM AT ANOTHER LOCATION.
UM, SO, UH, WITH THE NEW BLEACHERS WE INSTALLED OR MANUAL OPERATED, UH, TELESCOPING BLEACHERS, UH, THEY'RE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR AN INDOOR FACILITY AND THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE US SOME ABILITY TO DO SOME DIFFERENT THINGS IN THERE TO MODIFY THE SPACE FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OR ACTIVITIES AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SAFER FOR, UH, PICKLEBALL AND BASKETBALL.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THOSE BLEACHERS BACK TO CREATE A LITTLE MORE SPACE ALONG THE SIDELINES WHEN WE NEED TO.
UM, DONE SOME TOUCH UP PAINTING AND THE HALLWAYS OFFICES, THE KIDS ZONE JUST GOT REPAINTED ENTIRELY AND DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEMES.
SO, UM, I THINK WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO REOPEN, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE NEW LOOK IN THERE.
UM, AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN JUST WORKING ON A PROPOSAL FOR A PHASE PLAN OF REOPENING IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UH, EVER-CHANGING GUIDELINES AND RESTRICTIONS, UH, THAT ARE COMING OUT.
SO, UH, IT'S KIND OF ANOTHER LIVING DOCUMENT THAT, THAT I, UH, MY STAFF AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON TO HOPEFULLY GET PEOPLE BACK INTO THE FACILITY AND, UM, SOMEWHAT BACK TO NORMAL ON A, UH, AS SAFE, UH, BASIS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, BEYOND THAT, UH, WE STILL DON'T HAVE, UM, A FINAL DECISION ON 4TH OF JULY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT YET.
WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT, UH, CITY MANAGEMENT RECOMMENDS.
UM, AND UH, AS WELL AS SUMMER CAMP, WE'VE, WE'VE MADE SOME PROPOSALS FOR SUMMER CAMP, A COUPLE OF, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
UM, AND WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT, UM, THE FINAL DETERMINATION IS GOING GONNA BE ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO OFFER THAT AND, UH, HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, PROVIDING THAT SERVICE, ESPECIALLY HOPEFULLY TO THOSE CITY EMPLOYEES AND ESSENTIAL WORKERS WHO NEED THAT SERVICE.
UM, AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS USUALLY INCLUDE A REVENUE REPORT.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A, AN IDEA OF JUST HOW MUCH THIS HAS AFFECTED US FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT.
UH, MARCH THIS YEAR, WE MADE $27,000 LESS THAN WE DID IN 20, 19 AND MARCH.
UH, AND THAT'S EVEN WHEN WE WERE OPEN FOR TWO WEEKS IN APRIL.
UH, IT'S ALMOST $50,000 IN DIFFERENCE IN A NET LOSS AND THE NET LOSS FROM LAST YEAR, UH, DUE TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING ANY REVENUE STREAMS AND, UM, REFUNDS FOR RENTALS AND PROGRAMS. SO, UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE LEAST OF THE CONCERN AS FAR AS THIS IS, UM, FROM, FROM PUBLIC SAFETY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WELLNESS STANDPOINT.
BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, GIVE YOU GUYS SOME INFORMATION ON, UM, EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE REC DIVISION, WHICH IS WAITING
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UNTIL WE CAN GET BACK TO NORMAL.DO RISHI, ANY PROJECTED CURTAILMENT PROGRAMS GIVEN THIS DEFICIT AND WHAT KIND OF LEAD ANNOUNCEMENTS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, WHAT PROGRAMS MIGHT BE AXED, ET CETERA? UM, WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH OF A, UH, AXING OF PROGRAMS. IS THIS GOING TO BE A VERY SLOW REINTRODUCTION OF PROGRAMS? UM, AND SO WE HAVE SOME, SOME PROPOSALS IN PLACE FOR THAT, UM, SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY BEGINNING, MINIMIZING THE AMOUNT OF PARTICIPANTS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN A FACILITY OR IN A PROGRAM, UM, IN A CERTAIN SPACE AT A TIME.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, CUTTING PROGRAMS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, THAT'S NOT OUR, THAT'S NOT OUR, UM, FOCUS RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO GET PEOPLE BACK IN AND INVOLVED AND, UH, IN THE SAFEST MANNER POSSIBLE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT GIVEN THE FINANCIAL PICTURE, IS THIS FORECAST TO REDUCTION OF STAFF, NOT THAT CURTAILMENT OF ANY PROGRAMS? SO NO STAFF MAINTAIN.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THE CURTAILMENT OF STAFF HAS JUST BEEN, WE HAVEN'T, LIKE OUR PART TIME STAFF HAS BEEN VERY LIMITED ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK.
UM, FULL TIME STAFF STILL BEEN WORKING.
UH, BUT I DON'T THINK IN LONGTERM, AS LONG AS WE CAN GET BACK TO NORMAL, YOU KNOW, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
I DON'T, I DON'T FORESEE IT HAVING ANY LONGTERM EFFECTS ON 'EM STAFFING.
CAN YOU ENSURE, SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO MONOPOLIZE THINGS, BUT YOU ANSWERED JASON AND CHERYL, WHERE ARE WE STANDING ON? ARE OUR BOATS OR CANOES THAT WE WERE GOING TO SECURE WITH A TRAILER AND ALL THAT STUFF? IS THAT IN ADVANCE NOW OR WHERE DO WE HAVE THEM? WE HAVE KAYAKS.
WE HAVE THEM, WE HAVE THEM ALL AT THE, UH, STORAGE, UM, AND THE REC CENTER.
BUT, UH, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, WE'RE SCHEDULED TO HAVE STAFF TRAINING ON MAY 18TH, AND, UH, THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NOW.
SO, UH, WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UM, RESCHEDULING TRAINING FOR STAFF AND THEN, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATELY OPENING PROGRAMS AND RENTALS, UH, BASED ON THE GUIDELINES IN PLACE.
UM, WHENEVER STAFF IS STRAINED AND WHENEVER, UH, IT'S SAFE TO DO SO, SO, BUT THE TRAINING DAYS NOT BEEN FORECASTED, SUCH AS THE TRAINING DAY WAS SCHEDULED FOR LATER THIS MONTH, BUT, UM, THAT HAS
MOTOR SAFETY AND THEN SOME OTHER WATER SAFETY INSTRUCTION COURSES.
SO YOU SAID THAT'S STILL ONGOING NOW OR SET OR NOT? NO, IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 18TH, BUT UH, I DON'T FORESEE IT HAPPENING ON THAT DATE.
IT WILL, IT WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE RESCHEDULED, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN RESCHEDULED AT THE, AT THIS TIME.
WHO CONDUCTS THAT TRAINING UNDER WHOSE AUSPICES, UH, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE WAS PROVIDING THAT.
ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ALRIGHT, I'M MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.
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DIRECTORS REPORT.UM, I, I, I REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE TO REPORT THAN WHAT STAFF HAS ALREADY SHARED.
UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, PARK PROJECTS THAT, THAT RANDY REPORTED ON.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND, UM, OUR SIGNAGE PROJECT.
I'M SURE MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN OUR, OUR NEW ENTRYWAY SIGNAGE TO THE PARKS.
SO WE WORKING ON DOING A FEW MORE OF THOSE AS WELL AS, UH, SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT MOSLEY PARK AND, AND, UM, HOPEFULLY DESIGNING THE, THE, UM, THE PARKLAND OVER THERE AT PARK'S EDGE.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, MOSTLY I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO, UH, THE STAFF AT THE MISSOURI CITY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
UM, THE WAY THAT THEY'VE STEPPED UP DURING THIS TIME.
UM, OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, OUR OPERATIONS GOT COMPLETELY FLIPPED UP UPSIDE DOWN.
UM, YOU HAVE STAFF THAT WORK WEEKS AND MONTHS ON PROGRAMS THAT, THAT
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GET CANCELED.AND IN AN INSTANT, UM, THIS IS NOT JUST THEIR JOB, BUT IT'S THEIR PASSION AND THEIR REWARD IS, IS NOT A PAYCHECK, BUT IT'S, IT'S SEEING THE PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE ENJOY, UH, THEIR LABORS AND THEIR, UM, PROGRAMS THAT THEY PUT ON.
AND SO, UM, IT'S BEEN A, UH, A CHALLENGE, UM, AS, AS PARKS AND REC PEOPLE, UM, WE, WE THRIVE ON THE INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND TO HAVE THAT TAKEN AWAY HAS BEEN BEEN A STRUGGLE, BUT EVERYBODY HAS REALLY STEPPED UP.
UM, STARTED WORKING ON, UH, VIRTUAL PROGRAMS. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN OUR, OUR NEW WEEKLY NEWSLETTERS THAT COME OUT AND GIVE PEOPLE IDEAS FOR RECREATION, UM, OPPORTUNITIES AT HOME OR WAYS THAT WE CAN, UM, UH, STILL STILL RECEIVE SOME, SOME HEALTH AND BENEFIT, UH, WITHOUT, WITHOUT NECESSARILY COMING INTO THE REC CENTER.
UH, IT'S REALLY A TESTAMENT TO THE CREATIVITY OF, OF OUR STAFF AND THEIR DEDICATION TO PROVIDING QUALITY SERVICES.
AND SO, UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF THE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS RELATED TO, UH, RELATED TO THE PANDEMIC AND, AND, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, UH, GAINING ALL THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE, UM, AND ACTING ON IT ACCORDINGLY.
SO, UM, THIS I'M JUST INCREDIBLY PROUD OF OUR TEAM.
UM, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR CONTINUING, UH, YOUR, YOUR SERVICE AND, AND DOING IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE AND EVERYBODY JUST KINDA ROLLING WITH IT.
UM, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND THEN FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT, UM, HAVEN'T HEARD, UM, JULIA, UM, GAVE BIRTH TO A BEAUTIFUL BABY BOY.
AND SO WE HAVE ANOTHER FUTURE PARKS AND REC, UH, FAN IN THE DEPARTMENT AND WISH WE WISH HER WELL AND UH, THE THOMPSON FAMILY WELL AS THEY START THIS NEW PHASE IN THEIR LIFE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JASON? I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT HE SAID ABOUT HOW WELL THE, UH, PARKS AND REC PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT EACH DRAIN BOARD, UH, TOOK LUNCH TO, UH, TO THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING.
WE TOOK 13 SANDWICHES, CHIPS AND DRINKS TO 13 MEMBERS THERE AND SIX, SIX LUNCHES TO THE REC CENTER GROUP JUST TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION.
THEY'RE KEEPING THE PARKS OPEN.
THAT'S SOMEPLACE FOR US ALL TO GO.
AND THE REC NEWSLETTER IS AMAZING.
THEY'RE SENDING OUT ACTIVITIES AND EVERYTHING, SO THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB IN MISSOURI CITY.
APPRECIATED IT AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I TRIED TO, UM, CHASE YOU DOWN IN THE PARKING LOT AS YOU DROVE AWAY.
THAT WAS WONDERFUL AND MUCH APPRECIATED.
HEY JASON, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES SIR.
HEY, I HONESTLY JUST WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE MAYBE JASON HIT ON THIS, UM, BUT, UH, JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT.
UM, OH, IF YOU, UH, IF YOU HADN'T HEARD AS WELL KYLE FRY.
UM, I GOT THE RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT JOB WITH THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY SORRY THAT TO HAVE HIM LEAVE, BUT WE'RE HAPPY THAT HE WAS ABLE TO, UM, TAKE A PROMOTION AND, UH, ADVANCE IN HIS CAREER AND BE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO HOME.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.
KYLE FRY WAS KIND OF A LOW KEY INDIVIDUALS.
ASKED DIANE, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN MISSOURI CITY GREEN.
ALL THE PROGRAMS IN THE BANDS ARE, THEY HAVE FORECASTED CALENDAR OR ANYTHING.
OUR TRASH OFFICE HAS TO BE THE FIRST WEEKEND IN APRIL.
SO OBVIOUSLY WITH THE COVERT 19, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
ALSO OUR PAPER SHREDDING WAS LAST SATURDAY AT THE MISSOURI CITY POLICE STATION PARKING LOT THAT GOT CANCELED.
SO, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON ALL THESE THINGS WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING OUT A CALENDAR.
JUST AS KEVIN SAID, EVERYTHING'S SO UP IN THE AIR.
WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS COMING UP.
WE JUST DON'T KNOW DATES FARM WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE.
AND LET ME ASK, I'M SORRY BUDDY.
I WAS GOING TO ASK JASON, WE'RE IN PHASE, I THINK IT'S CALLED PHASE ONE OF REENTRY INTO PARKS AND REC PROGRAMS, SITES, ET CETERA.
WHAT IS PHASE TWO? DO WE HAVE DATES THEN? IS THERE A PUBLIC
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DOCUMENT THAT TELLS US OUTLINES WHAT PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE IS? WELL, WELL THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.AND UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNOR, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS, HAS OUTLINED, UM, SOME STEPS TO TAKE, UH, TO OPEN UP TEXAS.
UM, AND WE, WE ARE TAKING THOSE AS, UM, UH, ADVISORY, UM, UM, POINTS AND NOT NECESSARILY AS GOSPEL.
UM, UH, PHASE ONE FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FOR US IS OPENING UP TENNIS, WHICH WE HAVE DONE.
TENNIS IS NOW, UM, UM, WE, PEOPLE ARE, ARE ABLE TO MAKE RESERVATIONS AND, AND UM, PLAY TENNIS AT THE RECREATION CENTER.
UM, BUT TENNIS ONLY, OUR RESTROOMS AREN'T OPEN UP.
WE DON'T HAVE DRINKING FOUNTAINS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THE JASON PICKLEBALL, PICKLEBALL MOVED OUTSIDE.
THEN AS SOON WE HAVE ONE CHORD, 13, WE HAVE SOME PICKLE BALL COURTS PAINTED UP THERE.
UM, SO, SO AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS PARKS AND RECREATION IS CONCERNED, THAT'S THE ONLY THING.
UM, HE HAS GIVEN GUIDELINES THAT ON, UM, UH, MAY 18TH THAT GYMS CAN OPEN AT 25% CAPACITY.
UM, WE, WE WILL PROBABLY BE PROPOSING, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE ON A, UH, UM, A HEALTH DISASTER DECLARATION, UH, THE, THE MAYOR, ONLY THE AMERICAN GIVE US, UH, THE APPROVAL TO, TO OPEN OR ALLOW PEOPLE INTO OUR FACILITIES.
AND SO WE MAKE PROPOSALS TO THE CITY MANAGER WHO, UH, MAKES THOSE TO THE MAYOR.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN WE HAVE CONSULTATION OF A PUBLIC MEDICAL DOCTOR, UM, FOR, FOR ALL OF OUR PROPOSALS.
UH, SO BASICALLY, UM, WE, WE HAVE PHASE ONE, WHICH IS TENNIS.
UM, WE, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, THE NEXT PHASE WILL INCLUDE POTENTIALLY CLASSES, BUT NO, NO WEIGHT ROOM, NO CARDIO, NO BASKETBALL.
UM, UM, AS WE LOOK FOR WAYS TO SAFELY, UM, OPEN UP OUR FACILITIES, IT'LL BE SLOW.
UM, WE WILL BE TAKING AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
WE WILL BE BE MONITORING, UM, HOW THINGS GO BEFORE WE MAKE ANY, UM, FURTHER MOVEMENT.
SO I'M WRITING RIGHT NOW THE ONLY PHASE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IS THE TENNIS PHASE.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON PHASE TWO, WHICH WILL BE, UM, CLASSES ONLY AT 25%.
THAT'LL BE OUR PROPOSAL, UM, TO BE, TO BE APPROVED.
[Item 10]
WARD REPORTSYOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN STAYING AT HOME IF YOU GOT A REPORT.
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ITEM NUMBER 11, ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA.UH, OBVIOUSLY WE WERE STILL IN FLUX.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE ON JUNE 4TH, MAYBE A ZOOM MEETING AS WELL.
UH, I'D BE PREPARED FOR THAT AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME.
UH, THAT WOULD BE I THINK, THE SAFEST BET TO DO RIGHT NOW.
SO I'LL JUST PLAN ON OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, ON JUNE THE FOURTH BEING A ZOOM MEETING AS WELL.
DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TELL TONIGHT? AND IF NOT A NEED COMES UP BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, FEEL FREE TO SEND AN EMAIL TO EITHER MYSELF OR JASON AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET IT ON THE AGENDA.
I DO WANT TO SAY THIS, I'M VERY PROUD OF EVERYBODY ON, ESPECIALLY OUR NEW MEMBERS BEING PATIENT, WORKING THROUGH, WE HAD TWO VERY CHALLENGING, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION.
I WANTED YOUR FIRST ONE TO BE A CUPCAKE, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU HAD A FASTBALL THROWN AT YOU HERE TONIGHT, SO, BUT YOU DID GOOD.
UM, CAN I, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK FOR YOU? JOURN YES, THEY ARE.
THE ARE THE PARKLAND DEDICATIONS, IS THIS WHERE THESE CHALLENGING
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PARKLAND DEDICATIONS OR IS THIS ABOUT KIND OF HOW THEY USUALLY GO? IT'S, MOST OF THEM ARE ON THIS CHALLENGING.MOST OF THEM ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND EASY.
UM, BUT WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THINGS OF THIS SIZE, IT CAN BECOME CHALLENGING.
ONE THING WE WILL HAVE AT THE FIRST PHYSICAL MEETING, UH, I'LL HAVE STAFF COME BACK AND THEY KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PARK MAN AGAIN.
UH, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF NEW MEMBERS ON THERE.
I'LL HAVE THEM DO A PRESENTATION.
UM, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT SYDNEY ON GETTING US ALL TOGETHER ON THIS THING.
SHE KNOWS I BET THIS AND JOBS.
TO GET A BIG RAISE RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT'S SO BIG RECOMMENDATION.
SHE DESERVES A RAISE TO EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY STAYS SAFE, HEALTHY AND HOLLA NEXT MONTH.