[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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I CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:30 PM AND STATE THAT THE NOTICE FOR THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS TO BE POSTED.
THERE WILL NOW BE A ROLL CALL OF CITY COUNCIL AS I CALL YOUR NAME.
PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER BALONEY PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER ROLE IS PRESENT.
THERE WILL NOW BE A ROLL CALL OF CITY STAFF AND MEETING PRESENTERS AS I CALL YOUR NAME.
INTERIM CITY MANAGER BILL ATKINSON.
ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER GLEN MARTEL LAND MARTEL CITY ATTORNEY
DID HE SECRETARY MARIA JACKSON.
PRESENT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS.
PRESENT DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
MARTIN RUSSELL PRESENT PURCHASING A RISK MANAGER STANDING IN PLEASANT.
PRESENT DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES.
JOHN KNOWS FIRE CHIEF, EUGENE CAMPBELL, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
JAMES SANTA'S ST ANGELO, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE PRESENT THAT I DID NOT CALL YOUR NAME.
[(a) Presentation of City financial forecast with Jon Hockenyos.]
WE WILL START WITH TWO.A PRESENTATION OF CITY FINANCIAL FORECAST FROM JOHN WITH JOHN HOPKINS.
NO, WE HAVE BEEN USING JOHN FOR PAST FEW YEARS, UH, TO ASSIST US IN, UH, DEVELOPING WHAT THE ECONOMY LOOKS LIKE ON A STATE AND REGIONAL BASIS.
AND THAT HELPS US FROM A LOCAL BASIS TO SEE WHAT OURSELVES TAX ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
ONE OF OUR LARGER AS YOU KNOW, UH, REVENUE SOURCES.
AND SO, UH, AT THIS POINT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN AND WE DID HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION THIS YEAR WITH COLVIN 19 AND HE ADDRESSES THAT AS WELL AS WHAT PROJECTIONS MAY LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS AS IT RELATES TO SALES TAX.
SO JOHN, ARE YOU WITH US? I DID NOT HEAR HIM SAY PRESENT.
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME NOW? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
SORRY ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGES GUYS.
ANYWAY, SO YEAH, IT IS AN INTERESTING TIME.
LET'S ASSUME YOU ALL CAN SEE THE SCREEN.
I'LL START JUST WALKING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, GO THROUGH THIS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION, WHATEVER.
WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND JUMP INTO ALL THAT.
SO LET'S SEE IF, YEAH, THERE WE GO.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEGUN TO HAPPEN CERTAINLY IN THIS AND MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY WE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE THE IMPACTS OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT THERE REALLY IS A LAG FACTOR BETWEEN THE EVENTS, THE PANDEMIC ITSELF AND THE EVENTS SHOWING UP IN THE DATA AND THERE'S MORE TO COMM AND THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE TO COME AROUND THIS FIRST PHASE OF THE PANDEMIC.
AND THEN I THINK THERE WILL BE A SECOND ECONOMIC IMPACT PHASE OF THE PANDEMIC SOMEWHERE ON DOWN THE ROAD, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A RESURGENCE ACTUALLY IN THE INCIDENCE OF CASES.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME EQUALLY ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS COMING ON DOWN THE ROAD.
A WAYS THAT I'LL TALK SOME ABOUT.
SO THERE IS SOMETHING OF A LAG FACTOR BETWEEN EVENTS AND THEN THE DATA SHOWS IMAD SHOWING UP IN THE DATA GDP FIRST QUARTER.
THAT'S THE MEASURE OF THE NATIONAL ECONOMY IS DOWN JUST ABOUT 5%, UH, IS GOING TO BE MULTIPLES OF THAT.
CERTAINLY FOR THE SECOND QUARTER, THIRD QUARTER PROBABLY AS WELL.
BUT UM, NEVERTHELESS IS CERTAINLY NOTEWORTHY.
ONE OF THE BEST REAL TIME INDICATORS OUT THERE ARE INITIAL CLAIMS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT AND THERE AGAIN THE DATA WILL, AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OF THIS REALLY DOES REFLECT SOME OF WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT LOTS OF FOLKS HAVE HAD SOME CHALLENGES GETTING THROUGH.
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SOME FOLKS HAVE IT APPLIED BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ARE STILL BEING PAID THROUGH THEIR COMPANY THROUGH THEIR COMPANY'S PAYROLL PROTECTION PROGRAM, LOAN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, SO THAT THE FULL IMPACT ON THE LABOR FORCE HASN'T REALLY BEEN FELT YET.SOME OF THE OTHER REAL TIME INDICATORS, INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND OF COURSE THE PRICE OF OIL HAVE OBVIOUSLY FALLEN PRECIPITOUSLY AND IT JUST CAME OUT.
YOU SAW PROBABLY THE HEADLINE NUMBER ON US.
RETAIL SALES WERE DOWN ABOUT 16% THAT WAS SEASONALLY ADJUSTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR APRIL.
IF YOU COMPARE APRIL OF 2022 APRIL OF 2019 IT'S ACTUALLY OVER 21% DROP NATIONALLY ON US RETAIL SALES.
OBVIOUSLY SOME ISSUES COMING ON THE HORIZON.
CERTAINLY WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS KIND OF INITIAL ROUND OF GOVERNMENT SUPPORT IN TERMS OF THINGS LIKE THE ECONOMIC DISASTER, THE IDLS, THE PPP PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM, HEIGHTENED RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE.
AS OF NOW, UNEMPLOYMENT, UH, IS SCHEDULED TO RUN I BELIEVE THROUGH THE END OF JUNE, 1ST OF JULY.
AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T KEPT UP ON THAT STATE OF TEXAS, TYPICALLY THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT YOU CAN GET ON A WEEKLY UNEMPLOYMENT CHECK IS ABOUT 350 BUCKS.
BUT THE FED STAPLED 600 BUCKS A WEEK ON TOP OF THAT.
AND SO WE'VE SEEN THIS SITUATION QUITE A BIT WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY MAKING MORE MONEY NOT WORKING THAN IF THEY WERE WORKING A RELATIVELY LOW PAYING JOB.
NO THANKS, I'M NOT COMING BACK TO WORK.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS OUT THERE IS PEOPLE'S CAPACITY TO SPEND TO SOME DEGREE HAS BEEN PROPPED UP BY ALL THIS LEVEL OF STIMULUS.
THE QUESTION IS HOW WILLING ARE PEOPLE TO SPEND, AND THAT'S SORT OF AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
WHAT IS THE PATTERN OF RECOVERY AND REHIRING AND THEN IS THERE A SECONDARY OUTBREAK? I, AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU WATCH THE GOVERNOR'S PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY, BUT, UH, IT INDICATES TO ME THAT I THINK THAT EVEN IF THERE IS A RESURGENCE IN THE, UM, LEVEL OF THE PANDEMIC, IF WE OPEN UP SOME AND WE HAVE A RISE IN CASES, I DON'T THINK TEXAS IS GOING TO SHUT BACK DOWN.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THIS.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE OVERVIEW.
I'LL SHOW YOU SOME CHARTS TO SORT OF GO INTO ALL THIS AND THEN WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS AGAIN, GDP PERCENTAGE CHANGE FOR THE PREVIOUS QUARTER.
YOU CAN SEE IT HAS BEEN REMARKABLY STABLE REALLY FOR SEVERAL YEARS, ALMOST FOUR YEARS THERE UNTIL THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
THIS NUMBER CLEARLY IS GOING TO GET WORSE.
SO OUR TEXAS WEEKLY UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE CLAIMS, AND I'VE TAKEN THEM BACK TO THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE.
I MEAN WE THINK OF SORT OF MARCH 14TH AS KIND OF THE OFFICIAL START OF THE PANDEMIC.
YOU CAN SEE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE CLAIMS WERE IN THE 6,400 OR SO RANGE THAT WEEK.
THEY'VE GOT AS HIGH AS 313,000.
THE DATA ACTUALLY HAS NOW BEEN UPDATED A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN MOST RECENT NUMBER A WEEK AFTER THIS, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN I GUESS THE 16TH OR SO OF MAY THAT'S AVAILABLE, UH, SHOWS ABOUT 195,000.
IT ACTUALLY TICKED BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HEIGHTENED HEIGHTENED LEVELS OF UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE CLAIMS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO GET IT ACTUALLY BY INDUSTRY AND I'VE CIRCLED A COUPLE OF THEM HERE JUST TO SHORTER SHOW YOU THE KIND OF THE PHASING OF THIS, A COMBINATION IN FOOD SERVICES, THAT'S HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY GOT HIT HARD AND FIRST AND EARLY.
AND THEN WE SAW MORE HAPPENING ON THE RETAIL TRADE SIDE AND ON HEALTH CARE AND SOCIAL ASSISTANCE MINING, WHICH IS THERE IN THE MIDDLE IS NOT CIRCLED, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT STILL HAS SOME TO COME IN THIS WHOLE EQUATION.
AND AGAIN, THIS SORT OF SHOWS YOU, THIS IS JUST THROUGH THE END OF APRIL.
THERE'S SOME LAG ON SOME OF THIS.
THIS AGAIN GETS UPDATED GOING FORWARD AS WE GO ON, BUT IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU HOW THE IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC IS RIPPLING THROUGH DIFFERENT SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY.
AND ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE PRESENTATION.
IF YOU GO TO THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION'S WEBSITE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THIS INFORMATION ON TOTAL UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE CLAIMS BY ZIP CODE OR THERE'S AN INTERACTIVE MAP ON THERE SO YOU CAN DRILL INTO MISSOURI CITY AND SEE WHAT THE PATTERNS LOOK LIKE FOR THE ZIP CODES OR THAT ARE AT LEAST MISSOURI CITY IS PARTIALLY CONTAINED IN AND THAT'S HELPFUL TO TAKE A LOOK AT AS WELL.
THIS IS THE UH, THE DAILY PRICE OF WEST TEXAS INTERMEDIATE.
NOT SURPRISING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN AGAIN, YOU'VE SEEN THIS FALL
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SHARPLY.WE USED TO TALK ABOUT $60 BEING A BARREL PER BARREL AS BEING KIND OF THE BENCHMARK.
I THINK 20 TO 25 IS PROBABLY MORE LIKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
AND THEN THIS IS A, UH, AN INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION INDEX THAT IS MAINTAINED BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF DALLAS.
I TOOK THIS ONE ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2004 TO GIVE YOU A FRAME OF REFERENCE.
THIS IS MARCH, SO IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN UPDATED, UH, YET WITH MORE RECENT INFORMATION AND IT'S ALREADY BELOW WHERE IT WAS DURING THE GREAT RECESSION, UH, WHOSE SORT OF BOTTOM CAME AT THE END THERE OF 2008.
AGAIN, TO GIVE YOU SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED, WE PRODUCED THIS REPORT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT INTERNALLY AS A GROUP AND EVERYBODY SAID, YEAH, BOY, THE NUMBERS LOOK REALLY BAD AND NONE OF THE MARCH SALES TAX NUMBERS CAME OUT.
WE WERE ACTUALLY REPORTED IN MAY AND THAT REFLECTS SALES IN MARCH.
AND LO AND BEHOLD, MISSOURI CITY WAS UP 7% FROM MARCH OF 2019 AND WE ALL KIND OF LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND SAID, WOW, THAT'S SURPRISING.
AND SO I DRILLED INTO IT, SOM AND I PULLED SOME INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR YOU HERE.
FIRST OF ALL, THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS TO THE LEFT THAT YEAR OVER YEAR, MARCH OF 2020 SALES VERSUS MARCH OF 2019 SALES THAT CAME OUT IN MAY FOR THE SIX LARGEST CITIES IN THE STATE.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S RELATIVELY NEGATIVE THAT AUSTIN NUMBER WOULD HAVE MATCHED THE FORT WORTH NUMBER EXCEPT THERE WAS AN AUDIT ADJUSTMENT IN AUSTIN'S FAVOR IN MARCH, SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NEGATIVE SIX AND A HALF, BUT THEY GOT TWO POINTS OF THAT OFF BECAUSE THERE WAS A OVER $400,000 AUDIT ADJUSTMENT IN THEIR FAVOR.
IF YOU THEN GO TO THE FAR RIGHT TO WHAT I'M CALLING STANDALONE CITIES, PLACES LIKE DABBLING TO SOME DEGREE, LUBBOCK, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT INSULATED IN PART BECAUSE THEIR ECONOMIES ARE LESS TIED TO TRAVEL AND TOURISM THAN THE MAJOR CITIES ARE.
IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT SAN ANTONIO AND HOUSTON, HOUSTON GOT A DOUBLE HEAD BETWEEN TRAVEL AND THEN ALSO THE OIL INDUSTRY.
CERTAINLY THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, SOME SUBSTANTIAL HEADQUARTERS IN DALLAS HAS PROBLEMS ON THE STANDALONE CITIES.
THE ONES THAT HAVE HAD REAL TROUBLE ARE EITHER ENERGY RELATED.
SOME OF THE ONES IN EAST TEXAS, FOR EXAMPLE, BEAUMONT CERTAINLY.
AND YOU SEE THAT ALSO OVER AGAIN AS I MENTIONED IN HOUSTON OR IN MIDLAND TOO, OBVIOUSLY, OR ON THE RIO GRANDE RIVER, WHICH MEANS PEOPLE AREN'T COMING NORTH FROM MEXICO ANYMORE TO SHOP ON THE U S SIDE.
AND THAT'S PARTIALLY WHY MACALLAN HAS DONE RELATIVELY POORLY AND CERTAINLY ALSO WHILE PASO HAS DONE RELATIVELY POORLY.
AND THEN YOU LOOK AT A SELECTION OF CITIES HERE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING.
GREG BINE IS HEAVILY, HEAVILY, HEAVILY DEPENDENT UPON VISITATION.
SO THEY TOOK IT IN THE TEA FLOWER MOUND.
THAT'S KIND OF A, JUST A GENERIC, YOU KNOW, AREA IN THE DALLAS, FORT WORTH AREA, FRISCO, SAME KIND OF THING.
UH, SAN MARCUS HAS A GIANT BEST BUY OUTLET AND LO AND BEHOLD, PEOPLE ARE SHOPPING, BUT THEY'RE SHOPPING ONLINE AND ALL THAT.
SALES TAX REVENUE, FOR EXAMPLE, GOING THROUGH BEST BUY GOES TO SAN MARKETS.
AND THEN YOU GET TO MISSOURI CITY IN NEW BRAUNFELS.
BOTH OF THEM ARE PLACES THAT ARE SUBSTANTIALLY A LOCATION FOR COMMUTERS.
MOST PEOPLE GET UP IN THE MORNING AND DRIVE OUT OF THE CITY, EITHER GOING TO SAN ANTONIO TO WORK IN THE CASE OF NEW BRAUNFELS, OBVIOUSLY HEAD TOWARD THE MEDICAL CENTER AREA IN CASE OF MISSOURI CITY OR ELSEWHERE IN THE HOUSTON REGION AND NOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK, THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE INCLINED TO SHOP IN THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY RESIDE.
WHETHER THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE AND IN MY WIFE'S CASE, BUYING EVERYTHING UNDER GOD'S GREEN EARTH OR BUYING STUFF ONLINE AND AGAIN IS LOCATED AT, AGAIN IN THIS CASE WHERE IT'S ABSENT GOING THROUGH A DISTRIBUTION CENTER, LIKE A BEST BUY DISTRIBUTION CENTER AT COM, THE SALES TAX LANDS WHERE THE PLACE THAT WAS PURCHASED.
AND SO YOU SEE BASICALLY WE'VE KIND OF CLUMPED THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT CAUSE THESE ADJUSTMENTS.
EITHER NEGATIVE FACTORS OR POSITIVE FACTORS.
MISSOURI BENEFIT MISSOURI CITY BENEFITS FROM THE POSITIVE FACTOR.
NOW ONE TRUMP ONE MONTH DOES NOT A TREND MAKE.
I DO NOT EXPECT THIS NUMBER TO STAY POSITIVE FOR LONG, BUT IT WAS CERTAINLY A SURPRISE TO ME AND I THINK TO FOLKS ON STAFF AS WELL THAT IT CAME IN POSITIVE FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH AND I THINK AT LEAST THAT'S A POTENTIAL EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT MIGHT HAVE CAUSED SOME OF THAT TO HAPPEN.
UM, SO AS WE THINK ABOUT ALL THIS AND WE THINK ABOUT FORECASTING, AND I'VE TALKED TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, INEVITABLY CHANGES
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IN THE ECONOMY ARE GOING TO RIPPLE THROUGH TO PUBLIC SECTOR REVENUE STREAMS. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.SHELBURNE PLACE OBVIOUSLY MEANS MANY BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN CLOSED, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE CUSTOMER FACING AND NOT ESSENTIAL.
THAT MEANS RETAIL TRADE, THAT MEANS BARS AND RESTAURANTS.
THAT MEANS MOVIE THEATERS AND ARCADES, BARBERSHOPS, TRAVEL, AND OBVIOUSLY HOTELS.
ALL OF THOSE I'VE HAVE CLEARLY BEEN SHUT DOWN AND ARE JUST NOW BEGINNING TO REOPEN.
TO THE EXTENT THAT PEOPLE HAVE EITHER SEEN REDUCED OR LOST INCOME THAT COULD HAVE AN EFFECT ON PEOPLE'S WILLINGNESS TO SPEND.
ALL OF IT REALLY CAN BE TRANSLATED USING JOBS AS THE DRIVER.
AND THEN REALLY MOST OF THE IMPACT INITIALLY IS FELT IN WHAT ECONOMISTS CALLED TRANSACTION TAXES.
THAT'S YOUR MIXED BEVERAGE TAXES, OBVIOUSLY YOUR LODGING TAXES, AND THEN OF COURSE ON GENERAL SALES TAXES.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE SEEING THIS CORRELATION FOR A LONG TIME IS THERE'S A HUGE CORRELATION BETWEEN JOB GROWTH OR DECLINE IN SALES TAX OR GROWTH OR DECLINE FOR A LONG TIME.
YOU HAVE GROWTH AND JOBS, GROWTH AND INCOME.
CONVERSELY, YOU LOSE JOBS, LOSE INCOME.
WHEN THIS WHOLE THING BROKE, FOLKS AT THE ST LOUIS FEDERAL RESERVE BANK TRIED TO GET THEIR ARMS AROUND THIS BY SAYING, REALLY, LET'S THINK ABOUT WHO'S LIKELY TO HANG ONTO THEIR JOBS AS WE DO COBIT 19 SHUTDOWNS.
WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE FOLKS IN ESSENTIAL OCCUPATIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY.
IT'S GOING TO BE FOLKS WHO DO WORK THAT CAN BE, CAN BE COMPLETED OFFSITE OFFICE WORKERS, PEOPLE WHO CAN WORK REMOTELY AND LOGICALLY.
IT'S GOING TO LARGELY BE PEOPLE WHO ARE SALARIED.
I CAN'T TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS I KNOW OF, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO HAVE FURLOUGHED ALL THEIR HOURLY EMPLOYEES AND TRIED TO KEEP THEIR SALARIED EMPLOYEES ON THE PAYROLL BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THE SALARIED EMPLOYEES ARE KIND OF THE HEART OF THE COMPANY.
AND SO IF YOU TAKE THAT APPROACH, THE ST LOUIS FED ESTIMATED THAT ALMOST 67 MILLION PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY WOULD, ARE EMPLOYED IN POPULATIONS THAT ARE AT HIGH RISK OF LOSING THEIR JOBS.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT SOME OF THOSE ARE.
UM, ANOTHER APPROACH THEY TOOK WAS TO SAY, HEY, WHO WORKS IN PHYSICAL PROXIMITY TO OTHER PEOPLE? AND THAT'S HAIRSTYLISTS, WAITSTAFF, FLIGHT ATTENDANTS, PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
THEY TOOK THESE TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND KIND OF MASHED THEM TOGETHER AND SAID, OKAY, OUR FIRST GUESS IS 47 MILLION PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LAID OFF.
AND YOU ALREADY HAD 5 MILLION PEOPLE OR SO, FIVE AND A HALF MILLION PEOPLE THAT WERE ALREADY NOT WORKING.
AND SO LO AND BEHOLD, YOU TAKE ALL THAT NATIONAL ALUMNI UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF ABOUT ONE THIRD.
THAT WAS THE FIRST ESTIMATE FROM THE ST LOUIS FEDERAL RESERVE BANK.
THAT IS AN EYE WATERING NUMBER HIGHER THAN ANY ELEMENT THAT I THINK SINCE WE'VE BEEN MEASURING AND I THINK THAT'S HIGHER THAN AT ANY TIME FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE GREAT DEPRESSION OF THE 1930S NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO, UH, SO AGAIN TO SHOW YOU THE RELATIONSHIP HERE BETWEEN MISSOURI CITY SALES TAX AND OVERALL PRIVATE SECTOR JOB GROWTH IN THE BROAD HOUSTON AREA, I FOUND THIS WAS ACTUALLY PROBABLY THE BEST ONE TO LOOK AT AND YOU CAN SEE THE BIG TRENDS THERE.
THE CORRELATION HERE IS OVER 80% WHICH IS AGAIN NOT PARTICULARLY SURPRISING NOT TO CARE PER SE, BUT IT IS A STRONG AND POSITIVE CORRELATION BETWEEN THESE TWO THINGS.
SO GOING ON FROM THERE, WE TOOK IT A STEP FURTHER.
WE WENT LITERALLY OCCUPATION BY OCCUPATION THROUGH AND WE'D DO IT, BROKE IT DOWN.
THESE THINGS ARE SORT OF DONE IN THIS HIERARCHICAL MANNER.
WE TOOK IT AT THE 400 OCCUPATION LEVEL AND DID A COUNT OF FOUR, SORT OF A FOUR TIER LEVEL OF HOW LIKELY THAT OCCUPATION WAS TO EXPERIENCE A PERIOD OF JOBLESSNESS.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE A HOST AT A RESTAURANT, THERE WAS A 100% CHANCE YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A PERIOD OF JOBLESSNESS.
CONVERSELY, IF YOU WERE A COOK IN A RESTAURANT, IT WAS PROBABLY ONLY A 75% CHANCE BECAUSE FAST FOOD PLACES ARE STILL UP AND RUNNING.
SO THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF THAT.
AGAIN, PER WHAT WE DID, WE TOOK THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THE TWO AND WHAT THAT BASICALLY SAID TO US WAS USING THE ESTIMATES WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ON A PERIOD OF JOBLESSNESS GOING MONTH BY MONTH THROUGH ALONG 2020 AND THEN UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR EVERY PERCENTAGE POINT LOST IN JOBS, THERE'S A SOME PERCENTAGE POINT LOST IN SALES TAX.
AND THEN WE ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE MITIGATING FACTORS AND THEN WE CREATE SOME SCENARIOS ABOUT LEVEL OF JOBLESS.
SO SOME PATTERNS IN THE REHIRING ASSOCIATED WITH SHUTDOWN AND REOPENING FOR THE YEAR.
THAT GOT US OUR FORECAST FOR SALES TAX FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND THEN WHAT WE DID WAS TO DO FORECASTS ON EMPLOYMENT BY SECTOR FOR THE THREE YEARS ON.
BEYOND THAT TO GET YOU SOME INFORMATION ON LONGER TERM SALES TAX PROJECTIONS.
I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, A LOT OF NUMBER CRUNCHING
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BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT IT SORT OF LAYS OUT THE GENERAL APPROACH WE TOOK TO TRY TO FORECAST SALES TAX.UH, THE IMPACT ON SALES TAXES, ENTIRE PANDEMIC, NOT JUST FOR THIS YEAR BUT FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND WE WENT AHEAD AND PUSHED IT ALL THE WAY OUT TO 2025 JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BROADER CONTEXT ON THE WHOLE THING.
SO THIS IS OUR ESTIMATE GOING AGAIN AND THIS IS BASED ON, ON FOLKS WORKING IN THE MISSOURI CITY AREA.
WE THINK THAT ABOUT 29% OF THEM WILL EXPERIENCE SOME PERIOD OF JOBLESSNESS.
THIS IS THE TRANSLATION TO DOING IT.
WE DID IT FIRST BY OCCUPATION AND THEN TRANSLATED IT TO BY INDUSTRY.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE A COMBINATION IN FOOD SERVICES, 71% POTENTIALLY EXPERIENCE A PERIOD OF JOBLESSNESS.
YOU KNOW, BY CONTRAST, I MEAN PICK ANOTHER RELATIVELY SUBSTANTIAL SECTOR HEALTH CARE AND SOCIAL ASSISTANCE, ABOUT 17.6%.
UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER BIG AREA OF IMPACT OBVIOUSLY IS RETAIL TRADE, SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A FLAVOR OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY HERE.
THESE ARE FOLKS A LITTLE LESS THAN 30% ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR JOB FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME DUE TO THE IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC LOCAL JOBS.
THIS IS YOUR CHANGE IN CALENDAR YEAR IN SALES TAX GROWTH BASELINE SCENARIO AND I'LL SHOW YOU THEN HOW WE GOT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALLY.
WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT A 10.6% DROP FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2020 FOLLOWED BY A REBOUND, BUT IT'S A REBOUND OFF OF A DEPRESSED BASE OF 4.7% FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2021 SO YOU DON'T GET BACK EVERYTHING YOU'VE LOST JUST BECAUSE THE GROWTH RATE PICKED UP.
YOU STILL BE BELOW WHERE YOU WERE AT THE END OF 2019 ON A CALENDAR YEAR BASIS.
AND SO AGAIN, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MITIGATING FACTORS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
I TALKED ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY I ACTUALLY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS.
THE MARCH NUMBERS ONLY REFLECT COBIT 19 REALLY BEING A FACTOR FOR A PORTION OF THE MONTH.
WE DID TALK ABOUT HIGH LEVEL OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT, AT LEAST IN THE NEAR TERM FROM FEDERAL SOURCES.
WE'VE ALSO SEEN MOST LANDLORDS AND MY EXTENSION BANKS BEING PRETTY COOL AND THAT'S A TECHNICAL TERM FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE MONTHS.
YOU KNOW THEY'RE GIVING PEOPLE RENT PAYMENTS FOR A COUPLE MONTHS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEBT SERVICE, COMMERCIAL DEBT SERVICE HAVE EITHER BEEN GIVEN AN EXTENSION ON THE TERM OF THEIR NOTE TO REFLECT A COUPLE MONTHS BEING TAKEN OFF.
OR FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAD A LOAN BACKED BY THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET SIX MONTHS WHERE THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS PAID FOR THEM, WHICH IS HELPFUL.
WE HAVE SEEN SOME PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO SHIFT THEIR PATTERNS OF BUSINESS ACTIVITY.
IT'S SURPRISING WHAT YOU CAN DO REMOTELY.
I DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS YET, BUT I HAD A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT ON ZOOM THAT WENT SURPRISINGLY WELL.
I WAS KIND OF SKEPTICAL AND IN FACT IT WORKED PRETTY WELL.
SO THAT WAS A CASE OF SOMEONE BEING ABLE, AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE BEING ABLE TO SHIFT HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THEIR BUSINESS.
AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.
UH, IF YOU'RE A COMMUNITY WITH A HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUTER OUT MIGRATION, MEANING YOU'RE DRIVING TO WORK IN ANOTHER TOWN, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO SPEND AT HOME SUGAR LAND BY JUST AGAIN MORE INFORMATION DOWN 9% MARCH FAIR LAND WAS DOWN A LITTLE LESS THAN FOUR.
UM, LET'S GET INTO THE MEAT OF THE, OF THE FORECAST HERE.
THE, THIS IS FISCAL YEAR, UH, STARTING WITH 2019, RUNNING ALL THE WAY THROUGH 25.
THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE SOMETHING OF AN OPTIMISTIC SCENARIO, WHICH SHOWS YOU WITH A PROXIMATELY A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF A MILLION DOLLAR LOSS IN FISCAL YEAR 20, 20.
AND OF COURSE ALL OF THAT IS REALLY CONCENTRATED IN THE BACK HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
A LITTLE BIT OF A GAIN OFF OF THAT DEPRESSED BASE IN 2021.
AND THEN BY 2022 YOU HAVE GOTTEN SALES TAX REVENUE THAT'S JUST SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF WHERE IT WAS IN 2019 AND THEN THE FORECAST FROM THERE KIND OF GOES TO WHERE YOU WERE IN TERMS OF LONGTERM TRENDS PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC SO THAT BY 2025 YOU'RE UP OVER $12 MILLION A YEAR IN FISCAL YEAR SALES TAX REVENUE.
THIS IS WHAT I THINK OF AS BEING THE OPTIMISTIC SCENARIO.
THE NEXT ONE IS WHAT I THINK IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN.
THIS IS MY BEST GUESS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
DROP THIS YEAR DOWN FROM YOU KNOW, 10.25 TO 9.7 GIVE OR TAKE PICKING UP JUST A LITTLE BIT IN 2021 AND THE REASON WHY THE PICKUP IS A LITTLE SLOWER IN 2021 IS SOMETHING I MENTIONED EARLIER.
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WE DO THINK THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SECONDARY ECONOMIC EFFECTS.FOR EXAMPLE, REAL ESTATE IS GOING TO GET INTERESTING AS PEOPLE GO TO EITHER RENEW LEASES AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, I CAN'T PAY AS MUCH OR HAVE ALL DISCOVERED, WE DON'T HAVE TO ALL BE IN THE OFFICE EVERY DAY, ALL DAY LONG AND SO INSTEAD OF NEEDING 20,000 SQUARE FEET, WE REALLY ONLY NEED 12.
ALL THAT'S GOING TO GET INTERESTING.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE INTERESTING RIPPLE EFFECTS ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WE THINK ARE GOING TO BE RELATIVELY SUSTAINED LOWER OIL PRICES IN THE HOUSTON AREA.
UM, THERE WILL ULTIMATELY BE SOME EFFECTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE REALLY SEEING, I SIT ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL HOSPITAL SYSTEM OVER IN THE AUSTIN AREA AND WE ARE TO USE THE TECHNICAL TERM RIGHT NOW SUCKING WIND FINANCIALLY BECAUSE ALL THE STUFF WE ARE MAKING MONEY ON IT HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN.
ALL THE ELECTIVE SURGERIES AND ALL THAT AND WE ARE ACTUALLY FURLOUGHING MEDICAL PERSONNEL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE PROFITABLE STUFF ISN'T HAPPENING.
WE'RE JUST TAKING CARE OF SICK PEOPLE.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, BY THE WAY, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN RIGHT NOW, A LITTLE OVER 3% OF OUR HOSPITAL BEDS ARE ACTUALLY OCCUPIED BY COVEN PATIENTS, WHICH IS A VERY SMALL NUMBER.
AND WE ARE AT ONLY 60% CAPACITY FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY'S HOSPITAL BEDS.
WE HAVE ABOUT 3000 HOSPITAL BEDS IN THE BROADER AUSTIN AREA, ONLY ABOUT 1800 OF THEM ARE OCCUPIED AND ONLY A HUNDRED OF THOSE ARE WITH BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE COVEN, WHICH IS INTERESTING.
SO HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, WE THINK IT'S A FAIRLY SLOW RECOVERY IN 2021 PICKS UP IN 2022 THAT, SO BY THE END OF 2022 THINGS ARE MORE OR BACK TO NORMAL.
AND THEN GROWTH GOES ON FROM THERE OVER THE 15 YEAR PERIOD OF 2006 TO 2021 WHICH MEANS YOU WERE GROWING BUT NOT AT AN ENORMOUSLY RAPID RATE.
BUT IT IS POSITIVE AND BETTER THAN IT WAS IN 2019 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO THE MORE PESSIMISTIC SCENARIO IS THAT THE SECONDARY EFFECTS I TALKED ABOUT ARE WORSE.
AND THAT IN FACT 2021 IS MEASURABLY LOWER THAN 2020 AND THAT THINGS RECOVER ON A SLOWER PACE.
AND IT REALLY IS OUT TO 2023 OR 2024 BEFORE YOU GET BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE IN 2019 IF I HAD TO BET ON THE OPTIMISM VERSUS PESSIMISM SIDE, JUST TO BE CONSERVATIVE, I'D BE SLIGHTLY MORE PESSIMISTIC.
BUT WHAT I SAW TODAY TELLS ME AT THE BACK OF THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS DECIDED TEXAS IS OPENING UP.
AND I THINK HE'S COME TO THAT CONCLUSION BECAUSE I THINK HE BELIEVES THAT OUR MEDICAL CAPACITY CAN HANDLE EVEN, YOU KNOW, A FACTOR OF FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE HOSPITAL FOR COBIT.
AND I THINK HIS THINKING IS WE WILL TAKE THE PAIN OF A SURGEON THAT THIS SUMMER MOVE ON THROUGH IT AND BE AS CLOSE TO BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL IN THE FALL AND ON INTO THE WINTER AS WE CAN BE.
AND SO THAT TO ME SAYS THAT IF THAT'S THE MINDSET OF THE GUY WHO WAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKER AND HIS TEAM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, THAT'S JUST MY INTERPRETATION OF IT.
THAT SAYS TO ME THAT THAT THE SITUATION FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT MAYBE SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN IF THERE WAS A GREATER FOCUS ON KEEPING THINGS SHUT DOWN FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU LOOK TO THE STOCK MARKET IS ALWAYS WIDELY BEEN CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO AS KIND OF A MEASURE OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
AND YOU'VE HEARD RECOVERY, YOU'VE HEARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT BEING A U SHAPED RECOVERY, A V-SHAPED RECOVERY, A W SHAPED RECOVERY, A CHECK MARK RECOVERY CHECK MARK IS MORE WHAT I THINK OF IT AS AND IT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, I THINK THE S AND P 500 THERE AND THAT'S REALLY AROUND THE 1ST OF MARCH THAT THAT DATA IS RUN THROUGH AND YOU CAN SEE IT WAS AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
THE FIRST PART OF THIS YEAR RECORD HIGHS DECLINED VERY, VERY SHARPLY.
AND THEN HAS BEGUN TO RECOVER BUT NOT CERTAINLY NOT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS.
I THINK THAT OVERALL PATTERN IS PROBABLY ALSO VALID FOR THE ECONOMY AS A WHOLE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEN IT BEGINS TO GET BETTER FROM THERE.
NEXT SLIDE, AND THIS IS THE FINAL ONE IS REALLY JUST KIND OF A SUMMATION OF WHAT I'VE SAID, WHICH IS CONSUMER ACTIVITY AND HOSPITALITY.
THEY WERE THE SECTORS AT FIRST THEY'RE THE ONES HIT HARDEST.
THEY WILL BE THE LAST TO FULLY RECOVER.
THERE ARE OTHER SECTORS ALSO HEAVILY INFLUENCED.
TRANSPORTATION, AIRLINES, WHAT I REFERENCED EARLIER, NOT ESSENTIAL MEDICAL SALES TO SOME DEGREE HAS BEEN AFFECTED ALTHOUGH PEOPLE ARE LEARNING.
THEY CAN SELL THINGS OVER ZOOM AND THEN WHAT I WOULD CALL ANY UNIQUE TRANSACTION.
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A ONE OFF MEANING YOU SELL YOUR HOUSE OR WHATEVER.THERE IS ACTIVITY OUT THERE BUT IT HAS BEEN PAUSED AND CERTAINLY ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, THINGS THAT WERE IN THE PIPELINE ARE BEING FINISHED.
THINGS THAT ARE BEING CONTEMPLATED ARE BEING PAUSED AND THAT SPEAKS TO AN ISSUE.
THE BANKS ARE NERVOUS AS CAN BE.
THEY'RE VERY NERVOUS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE THIRD QUARTER WHEN THEY'RE PAST ALL THE FEE INCOME THEY MADE FROM THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM.
AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT NOT ENOUGH GOOD LOAN DEMAND.
THEY'LL HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE CALLING THEM WANTING TO BORROW MONEY, BUT THEY'LL BE NERVOUS ABOUT UNDERWRITING THEM.
ONE BECAUSE THEY'LL BE NERVOUS ABOUT THEIR COLLATERAL VALUES AND TWO, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE NERVOUS ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS PLANS BECAUSE THEY'RE UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF COBIT.
SO ON THE DEMAND SIDE, THE BANKS ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGED AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PARKED IN CASH IN THEIR BANK, WHICH MEANS THEY'VE GOT TOO MANY DEPOSITS, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE PAYING OUT TOO MUCH IN INTEREST.
ALL BY WAY OF SAYING CREDIT AVAILABILITY, ESPECIALLY ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, MAY BE PRETTY TIGHT IN THE SECOND HALF OF THIS YEAR AND GOING FORWARD.
SO TO SUM IT ALL UP, MISSOURI CITY FEELS IMPACTS MOST STRONGLY IN SALES TAX.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE COULD BE IMPACTS IN OTHER AREAS.
I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME PROPERTY TAX IMPACTS, NOT THIS YEAR BECAUSE YOUR VALUES WERE ALREADY SET, BUT I THINK YOUR VALUES IN 2021 COULD BE SOMEWHAT UNDER ATTACK.
YOU COULD SEE SOME IMPACTS AND FUND TRANSFER FROM OTHER ENTITIES TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY ARE HAVING FINANCIAL PROBLEMS. SOME OF THAT'S INDIRECT.
FOR EXAMPLE, TEXDOT IS REALLY WORRIED ABOUT FUNDING FOR HIGHWAY TO A CONSTRUCTION THAT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON YOU GUYS.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT COULD BE THERE, YOU COULD GET A RISE IN SOCIAL SERVICES DEMAND BECAUSE AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE HAVING PROBLEMS AND THEY NEED SOME HELP.
FINAL THING I'LL SAY IS THIS IS A PROCESS SO AS STAFF WILL TELL YOU THE NUMBERS CHANGED WHEN THE MAY SALES TAX FIGURES, WHICH REFLECTED MARCH CAME OUT.
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED THAT THEY CHANGED AGAIN NEXT MONTH AND ON FROM THERE AND ON FROM THERE.
AND WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO IS STAY ON TOP OF IT.
SO WE GIVE YOU THE BEST POSSIBLE INFORMATION WE CAN.
THAT'S AS UP TO DATE AS WE CAN MAKE IT BE.
AS YOU WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING, SPENDING PLANS AND SETTING BUDGETS FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR.
AND I THINK WITH THAT NOTE, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I'M NOT HEARING, SO THANK YOU JOHN VERY MUCH.
I CAN STICK AROUND FOR A MINUTE.
IF ANYBODY HAS A BURNING QUESTION, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO ASK.
BYE BYE CUSTOMER AND EMERY, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN ENTERTAIN MAYBE MOVING THE, UH, ITEMS TO, UH, FNG UP IN, UM, ARE BEHIND A TO B.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO ARE WANTING TO MAKE A COMMENT AS PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IF WE CAN DO THAT, UM, MAYBE WE COULD GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY AND LET THEM GO ON THEIR WAY.
IS THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE IT TO NOW OR AFTER? TO BE AFTER TO BE OKAY.
IS THAT YOUR MOTION? YES, MA'AM.
IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND I'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
MAYOR PRO TEM PRESTON, YOU FADED OUT.
MOVE ITEMS TO APP AND TO G AND THE AGENDA UP IN FRONT OF ARE BEHIND A TO B.
COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS COUNCIL MEMBERS.
YOU MADE THE SECOND AND COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY MADE THE MOTION.
[(b) Discuss the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act.]
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SO WE'LL DO TWO B AND THEN GO TO F.ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED, THE CORONAVIRUS AID RELIEF AND ECONOMIC SECURITY ACT.
UH, EUGENE CAMPBELL, CHIEF CAMPBELL COUNSEL.
BRIEFLY WITH ME, I'LL HAVE A JAMAICA, JULIET, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER AND MR SPURGEON ROBINSON FROM THE IMPACT GROUP.
ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
I'M THE EMERGENCY MANAGER TODAY.
WE ACTIVATED THE ELC FOR CURRENT HELMET 1962 DAYS AGO.
WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A DISASTER DECLARATION FOR THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY ON MARCH 13TH AND WE ESCALATED OUR ACTIVATION LEVEL UP FROM A LEVEL THREE TO LEVEL TWO ON, UM, ON MARCH 25TH.
THROUGHOUT THAT TIME, WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR CENTRAL FUNCTIONS, OUR CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLANS, AND WHICH HELPS US DETERMINE WHAT ARE, WHAT SERVICES ARE ESSENTIAL AT THIS TIME AND WHAT TECHNOLOGY AND SYSTEMS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE GOING.
BY DETERMINING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP CERTAIN OFFICES SUCH AS OUR PERMITS OFFICE AND A FEW OTHER DEPARTMENTS ABLE TO KEEP THESE SERVICES GOING REMOTELY, NOT IN THE CITY BUILDING.
WE'VE ALSO ACTIVATED WHEN WE ACTIVATE OUR ELC, WE ACTIVATED IT VIRTUALLY WHERE WE'VE CONDUCTED RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, ALL DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE WORKED, WHO REQUESTED ITEMS. WE HAVE FILLED ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS EITHER PARTIALLY OR FULLY DEPENDING ON WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME.
WE'VE ALSO STARTED LOOKING AT LONGTERM PLANNING TO THINK WHAT DO WE MEET IN THE FUTURE SO THAT WE'RE NOT BULK BUYING.
UM, AND TRYING TO FIND STUFF AT THE LAST MINUTE.
UM, THE CITY HAS WORKED IN COORDINATED, UM, UH, PPE DISTRIBUTION, UM, IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO AND PARTICIPATE IN THE STAFFORD PPE DRIVE.
WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH OUR KEY PARTNERS SUCH AS OUR MUDS AND LIDS TO START FIGURING OUT WHAT THEIR ESSENTIAL FUNCTION OF SERVICES ARE AND WHAT THEY WERE STILL PROVIDING THROUGH THIS TIME.
AND CAME UP WITH SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY TO HELP SOME OF THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY WORKERS.
AND WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO OPEN A TESTING CENTER AND MISSOURI CITY ON MAY 1ST AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN WE IMPLEMENTED MS SAFETY PRACTICES.
CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS ARE ENSURING THAT EMPLOYEES WHO ARE COMING TO WORK DURING THIS TIME OR BEING OUR TEMPERATURES ARE BEING CHECKED.
AND ALSO THAT WE HAVE CERTAIN DISINFECTANTS AND HAND SANITIZERS AROUND IN THOSE FACILITIES.
AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN MAKING SURE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC AND CITY EMPLOYEES AT ALL TIMES THROUGH THIS NEXT SLIDE.
SO WHAT'S NEXT WITH POPE AT 19, EVEN THOUGH THIS HAS BEEN A LONG ONGOING PROCESS, IT'S STILL GONNA.
IT'S GONNA STILL TAKE PLACE FOR A LONG TIME.
SO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND, AND UM, CHIEF CAMPBELL IS GONNA SPEAK MORE ON SOME OF THE STUFF LATER ON IS WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OPENING THINGS, OPENING BACK UP THE GOLF COURSE.
WE HEARD THE GOVERNOR SPOKE TODAY ON SOME NEW, UM, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR OPENING UP TEXAS? WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TENNIS COURTS, OPENING OUR COURTS BACK UP AND THEN LOOKING AT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MEETINGS AND CITY OFFICES COMING UP IN THE FUTURE AND JUST REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT DOES THE CITY LOOK LIKE, WHAT'S OUR NEW NORMAL WITH CORONAVIRUS WITH POET 19 AND THE FUTURE.
SO THOSE ARE GONNA BE THINGS AS CONTINUING DISINFECTING CITY BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES FOR THESE, WHICH IS THE CARES ACT THAT CHIEF CAMPBELL IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
WE'VE BOUGHT A LARGE AMOUNT OF HAND SANITIZER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SANITIZING STATIONS POTENTIALLY TO PLACE AROUND THIS CITY BUILDINGS AND ENSURE PEOPLE LAND ARE RETURNING TO WORK WHEN THEY DO THAT, THEY ARE CONTINUING TO KEEP THEIR HANDS CLEAN AND JUST LOOKING AT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
WE NORMALLY DO FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, UM, WHICH IS A 25% COST SHARE FOR THAT.
WE HAVE THE CARES ACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LATER ON IN THIS PRESENTATION.
AND JUST CONTINUING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC TO CONTINUE SOCIAL DISTANCING.
AND THEN OUR LONGTERM THING WILL BE EVENTUALLY, UM, INCREASING OUR ACTIVATION LEVEL BACK UP TO LEVEL THREE AND THE ACTIVATING THE EOC.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES.
SO THE CORONA VIRUS ACT CAME OUT TO HER IS REALLY QUICK AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON WITH IT, BUT REALLY AS IT RELATES TO IT COVERS COSTS THAT ARE UNNECESSARY EXPENDITURES THAT WERE INCURRED AS A RESPONSE TO OR TO HELP TO RELIEVE FROM UH, THE, THE ACTS
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AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE CAUSED, UH, DUE TO THE COBIT 19 VIRUS.THINGS THAT WE SPENT TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO THE EMERGENCY OR AS ADDRESSING MEDICAL OR PUBLIC HEALTH NEEDS.
SECOND ORDER EFFECTS ARE AN EMERGENCY SUCH AS PROVIDING ECONOMIC SUPPORT.
SOME THINGS COULD BE HOUSING, A RENTAL RELIEF.
IT COULD BE THINGS FOR BUSINESSES FOR INTERRUPTION.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE CARES ACT WILL COVER.
UM, THEY WERE THINGS THAT WERE NOT ORIGINALLY ACCOUNTED FOR IN OUR BUDGET.
SO IT'S FOCUSING ON THOSE AREAS.
AND THE OPERATIONAL PERIOD FOR THESE FUNDS SHOULD BE THROUGH MARCH ONE THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2020 DECEMBER 30TH OF 2020.
AS WE JUST LOOK AT A BIG STRATEGIC OVERVIEW, YOU CAN SEE THE MONEY COMES DOWN FROM THE U S GOVERNMENT TO THE STATE OF FORT BEND COUNTY AND ALTHOUGH THERE ARE A LOT OF ITEMS THAT IT COVERS, IT TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOSPITAL SYSTEM, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, TRANSPORTATION.
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, SOCIAL SERVICES, AUTO SPECIAL, UH, FUNDING DISTRICTS, ESD.
I MEAN, UH, EDS IS EDCS RATHER SMALL BUSINESSES, TRANSPORTATION, IT TOUCHES ON A LOT OF ITEMS AND THERE'S A BIG LONG LIST.
UH, THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THIS SLIDE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SHEET THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AFTER THIS ONE, UM, THERE IS A 20% I MET MIGHT BE DISGUSTED, TOMORROW'S COMMISSIONING MEETING WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE COULD BE A CARVE OUT FOR UP TO $121,000.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD COME IF THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT DECIDED TO DO SO COME DIRECTLY TO MISSOURI CITY FOR NECESSARILY, UM, COSTS THAT WE MIGHT INCUR DOING THIS COVERT VIRUS.
SO THAT'S ONE, UH, ITEM THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED TOMORROW.
WE HAVEN'T GOT THE FORMALIZATION YET FROM HARRIS COUNTY, ALTHOUGH THERE'S SOME DIRECT FUNDING THAT WE COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE $34,000.
IT'S LIKE A GRANT AND IT WOULD HELP TO COVER SOME THINGS THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE COVERED BY THE EIGHT 21.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE THINGS.
SOME ITEMS COULD BE USED FOR A TECHNOLOGY THAT WE USE TO WORK REMOTELY AND SO FORTH.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE ITEMS AS WELL AS ALL THE THINGS THAT, YEAH, THE CARES ACT DOESN'T COVER THROUGH FEMA BECAUSE OF THIS 25% MATCH.
MAYBE CONSIDER THOSE THINGS LASTLY BECAUSE THERE IS A MATCH, WHEREAS THE EIGHT 21, UH, IF THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THAT THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT GOES IN IS NOT A MATCH.
SO THE EVENT, THERE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO LOCAL JURISDICTIONS IN FORT BEND.
IT'S DOES NOT COVER ALL THE EXPECTED COSTS THAT WE WILL OCCUR.
HOWEVER, IT'S, IT'S MEANT TO BE A FIRST START.
THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL ROUNDS THAT MIGHT COME.
THAT'S BEEN THE TALK, BUT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
THE FACT THAT THE FUNDS ARE DIRECTLY IN FORT BEND COUNTY NOW AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY WORKING ON TRACKING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE USE AS WELL AS ALL THE GRANTS.
AND IT'S QUITE A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED.
AND WE HAVE A, A SHEET TO TRY TO CAPTURE NOT ONLY WHAT'S GOING ON AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENT GRANT FUNDS, UM, AND HEALTHCARE FUNDS, BUT ALSO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE SPENDING.
SO BECAUSE OF THE QUICK TIMELINE, I WORKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER, UH, INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND A CORE GROUP OF CITY, UH, DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS.
AND WE CAME UP WITH A BRAINSTORMING AND THIS IS WHAT WE SUBMITTED.
AND I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS RECEIVED AN EMAIL OF, OF WHAT, UM, WE LOOKED AT ORIGINALLY FOR SOME PRIORITIES OF COURSE EXPENSES FOR PAYROLL DUE TO COVERT 19, THE COST OF PURCHASING AND DISTRIBUTION OF PPE, SANITIZING AND DISINFECTING, UM, EXPENSES THAT WE MIGHT OCCUR FOR QUARANTINING THE INDIVIDUALS.
COBRA TESTING, SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS OR REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THE COST OF THE BUSINESS AND ERUPTIONS AS WELL AS ANY OTHER, UH, COBIT 19 RELATED, UH, EXPENSES THAT COULD COME UP FROM THAT LIST AND WORKING WITH THE OTHER CITIES AND THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
THE CARER ZACK SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THERE'S $134 MILLION,
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$262,393.THAT CURRENTLY HOW, AND THIS IS THE BUDGET.
THE DRAFT BUDGET IS GOING TO GO BEFORE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TOMORROW.
IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT CHART, YOU'LL SEE 4 MILLION, 780,000, $490.
THAT IS WHERE THAT, UH, PER CAPITA OF $55 PER CITIZEN, LOOKING BACK AT THE 2019 NUMBERS FOR MISSOURI CITY, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 74 A THOUSAND PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHERE WE DID THE $821,000 THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE ROUGH FIGURES.
THEY COULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THOSE ARE PRETTY CLOSE AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED TOMORROW.
SO THAT'S A REALLY QUICK SNAPSHOT OF A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE GONE, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AS FAR AS POTENTIAL THINGS THAT THE MONEY COULD BE APPLIED FOR.
IT'S ALL UP FOR DISCUSSION TOMORROW THEY'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP AT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, AND MYSELF, MS JEW AND UH, SPURGEON ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
OH, THE MAIN ONE SIDE, EXCUSE ME.
UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE SPENT TODAY, DAY AS A FRIDAY.
UH, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE HAVE THROUGH OUR COVERT TRACKING CODES FOR SALARIES, SOCIAL SECURITY, TAXES, RETIREMENT, MODERN TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT.
IT COULD BE PPE, EMERGENCY SUPPLIES RELATED TO THIS AS WELL AS CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THROUGH, BUT JUST UNDER $100,000.
THIS IS MAYOR FORD AFTER THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TOMORROW.
COULD YOU PLEASE SEND US UPDATE ON WHAT, WHAT THE DECISIONS WERE? YES MA'AM.
THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ANYONE THAT COULD SPEAK TO THIS HAVE RECENTLY, HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO CHECK THE STATUS OF OUR PUBLIC HAND WASHING WASHING STATIONS AROUND THE CITY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE UP TO STANDARD AND FUNCTIONING PROPERLY.
MAYOR OF FORT SAM, I'LL UH, I'LL ASK, UH, CHIEF, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.
I KNOW THAT WE, UH, HAVE OUR, OUR HEALTH INSPECTORS OUT AND WE HAVE OTHERS WHO GO OUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THAT PARTICULAR, UH, SITUATION.
BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT THAT ON THE LIST.
BUT THEY ARE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT, UH, STORE OWNERS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO COMPLY WITH WHAT'S IN PLACE AS FAR AS SPACING GOES AND UH, THE QUANTITY OF PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN BUSINESS TIME AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER SANT STANDARDIZATION ISSUES.
SO WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE LIST IF IT'S NOT ALREADY BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
AND CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN SPEAK TO THAT OR NOT.
AS IT RELATES TO AROUND THE CITY ITSELF AND IN THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE ARE UH, MIGHT BE COMING IN OR THEIR WORKERS, MS. JORDAN HAS BEEN WORKING IN THAT.
THERE'S DIFFERENT, UM, I WOULDN'T CALL HIM HERE IN WASHINGTON STATE, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THEIR PB DISTRIBUTION AS FAR AS THINGS FOR YOU TO WIPE YOUR HANDS AND DO THAT.
WE HAVE THOSE AROUND THE WHOLE CITY AS IT RELATES TO ALL SITE.
WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP AND, AND GET BACK TO, UH, THE COUNSELING.
I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME AT THIS TIME.
AND MS JEWELL, DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? NOT AT THIS TIME.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, THIS COUNCIL MEMBER, BONY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT SOME CLARITY ON THE PROCESSES.
UH, SO CHIEF CAMPBELL OR BILL, UH, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ANY AND ALL FUNDS COMING FROM THE FEDERAL CARES ACT ARE, UH, GOING TO BE, UH, ADMINISTERED BY THE, BY THE COUNTY IF THEY APPROVE THESE THINGS? IS THAT WHAT'S BEING SAID OR, OR DO WE GO STRAIGHT TO THE, UH, FEDS OURSELVES OR THROUGH THE STATE? OR IS IT JUST THE COUNTY COUNCILMAN BONNIE, THOSE ARE SPURGEON.
COULD YOU JUMP IN AND JUST TELL THEM THE PATHWAY BASED UPON TOMORROW'S MEETING WHERE THE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS OF MONEY COULD GO? SURE.
ONE AMERICORPS COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM STAR, UM, WORKING WITH, UM, CHIEF CAMPBELL HERE IN THE TEAM TO HELP WITH THE PRIORITIES FOR MULTIPLE CITIES, BUT
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ALSO MISSOURI STATE IN PARTICULAR, UH, FOR THE COUNTY.SO THE COTTAGE PROCESSES THAT THEY ARE THE RECIPIENT OF THE $134 MILLION THAT HE INDICATED ON THE SLIDE.
AND FROM THERE, PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IS ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CITIES HE SEES INSIDE OF THE COUNTY ALSO RECEIVE A SHARE OF FUNDS OR SERVICES, UH, DEFINED BY THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RESPONDING COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNTY AND COUNTY ACROSS COUNTY OR COUNTY WIDE, I SHOULD SAY.
UH, PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS.
WITH THAT, THERE'S MULTIPLE PROPOSALS ON THE TABLE.
ONE IS FOR THE CITIES TO HAVE A PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THOSE FUNDS, UH, ALLOCATE IN SOME FASHION TO THE CITY AND THE CITY CAN THEN USE THOSE FUNDS AS LONG AS THEY'RE ON A SPECIFIC OR RELATED TO COVERT 19 RESPONSE RECOVERY AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE OUTLINED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION.
TOMORROW SESSION WILL INVOLVE, UH, ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS MEETING AND THEN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT, UH, OR HOW TO BEST DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS I SHOULD SAY TO THE CITIES OR, AND WHAT THINGS WILL REMAIN UNDER COUNTY CONTROL.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ASKED YOU, UH, YOUR QUESTION SUCCINCTLY, THE COUNTY, UH, HAS BEEN ALLOCATED THESE FUNDS ON BEHALF OF ALL THE CITIES, SO MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF THE CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES, UH, ALSO, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR RISK DISTRICTS OR ISD, ET CETERA.
UH, THEY ARE ADMINISTRATORS OF THAT.
AND TOMORROW SESSION IS TO OUTLINE HOW TO BEST ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS AND HOW THE CITIES CAN PARTICIPATE DIRECTLY ACCESSING THESE FUNDS TO SERVE THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
THE REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS A THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION.
UH, I, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE HAVE OR WILL BE PRESENT, UH, OR HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATIVE WITH WHAT OUR, UH, DIRECT NEEDS ARE.
I KNOW I REACHED OUT TO, UH, OTIS AND BILL, UH, BY PHONE AND OR, UH, UH, ALSO BY EMAIL EARLIER IN THE MONTH.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ASKED WAS, CAUSE I'M ALSO NOT ONLY A COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE
I WAS ON A NATIONAL CALL, UH, EARLIER IN THE MONTH AND, UH, SEVERAL CITIES TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE DESIGNATED FUNDS TO THOSE EFFORTS THROUGH CDBG, UH, RELATED, UH, UH, RESTRUCTURING.
SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN PURSUE FUNDING AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR RENTER'S ASSISTANCE PROGRAM BECAUSE ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE, UH, APARTMENTS OR VERY MANY APARTMENTS IN MISSOURI CITY, UH, WE DO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS WHO ARE RENTING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND HOPE THAT WE'RE OUT ADVOCATING AND AT THE TABLE AND COUNCILMAN BALONEY, THAT WAS PART OF THE PROCESS THAT WE UNDERWENT AND REVIEWING THE NEEDS AS THEY RELATE TO THE CITY AND, AND GRADING THOSE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE SENT TO THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, GENE HAD, UH, UH, PRESENTED THOSE TO THE COUNTY ON OUR BEHALF.
AND SO THAT, AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY COME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF ANY OTHER FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND, UH, ALSO WITH EIGHT 21 THAT WE POTENTIALLY GET, UH, THAT HOW WE MIGHT UTILIZE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THE CARES ACT PROVIDES AS FAR AS PROGRAMS GO.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AND, AND BE INFORMING COUNSEL AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT INFORMATION WE GAINED FROM THAT AND CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE ON THAT BEHALF.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, WELL WE WILL MOVE TO THE THANK YOU, CHIEF CAMPBELL AND TAMIKA.
[(f) Consider obtaining services, including a web based community survey, from Baker Tilly for executive search services for the city manager position.]
TO, UM, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.SO THE NEXT ITEM IS F CONSIDER OBTAINING SERVICES INCLUDING A WEB BASED COMMUNITY SURVEY FROM BAKER TILLY FOR EXECUTIVE SEARCH SERVICES FOR THE CITY MANAGER POSITION.
DID YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? UH, NO, I DIDN'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT I HAD, I HAD COMMENTS THAT I'D LIKE TO THE MIC.
AT AT THIS POINT WE HAVE BEEN, UH, MADE ANY, UH, FROM, UH, CONTRACT COMMITMENT WITH, UM, UH, WITH BAKER TILLY.
AND, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER IS TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THEIR WEB WEB BASED SURVEY, UH, THAT'S COMPLETED
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BY, UH, COMMUNITY LEADERS AND CITIZENS AND CITY EMPLOYEES, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE, UH, COUNTY WIDE ISSUES AND PRIORITIES.UH, IT'S MY FEELING THAT THESE, UH, GREEN GROUPS NEED TO HAVE A VOICE IN, UH, UH, THE SELECTION PROCESS, UH, AND TO CONVEY THEIR THOUGHTS TO, UM, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR, UM, FOR, UM, UH, THIS, UH, THE SERVICE THAT, UH, I'D SAY IS, UH, IS A WEB BASED SURVEY.
UM, IT'S AN ITEM THAT'S ON THEIR PRICE LIST THAT THEY SENT US AND IT'S $1,650 IS THE PRICE THAT THEY SHOW.
BUT AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO STRESS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FRAMING THE SORT OF PERSONS AND STAKEHOLDERS AND THE COMMUNITY INTO, UM, INTO THE, THE PROCESS OF, UH, HELPING US FIND A NEW CITY MANAGER.
AND I THINK THIS WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN, UH, IN SHOWING THAT, UH, WE'RE A, UH, YEAH, THAT WE WANT TO, UM, UH, GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND MAKE THAT A PART OF THE PROCESS WHEN WE DO OUR SELECTION FOR A NEW CITY MANAGER.
WELL, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE'LL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, DOUG, IS EVERYBODY ON THE LINE SO FAR? YES.
THE FIRST PERSON ON THE LIST IS NO PIN-UP.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
GOOD MORNING, AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL AND GREAT STAFF AT MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS COULD HEAR ME, BUT I DO WANT TO DO A SOFT MICROPHONE CHECK.
CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME CLEARLY? WE CAN HEAR YOU.
I RESIDE AT 29 ZERO THREE ROBINSON ROAD, MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS SEVEN SEVEN FOUR FIVE NINE.
AND I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM AND I DO APPRECIATE MY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MY COUNSEL MAN, UH, FLORIDA EMORY FOR BRINGING THIS UP, UH, AND, AND ALLOWING US TO ACCELERATE THIS ITEM SO THAT WE CAN EXPRESS SOME ABOUT THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS REGARDING THIS EXPANDED APPROACH TO CREATING A COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE OF WHAT THE NEXT AND WHO'S THE NEXT CITY MANAGER SHOULD BE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING CHARLES AND KETTERLING, UH, MADE US COMMENT ONE TIME AND HE SAID, MY INTEREST IS IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF MY LIFE THERE IN THAT SAME VEIN UNTIL THAT SAME TONE A LOT.
I LIKE MANY OF MY, MY NEIGHBORS ARE GONNA SPEND A PREDOMINANTLY LARGE PART OF OUR LIVES HERE AT MISSOURI CITY.
AND THE DECISION THAT WE MADE TO MOVE HERE, WHETHER IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO AND FOR ME 21 YEARS AGO, WELL FROM OTHERS 21 DAYS AGO, HAS ALWAYS BEEN PREDICATED ON THE NOTION THAT OUR CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIVE AND NOT ONLY TO THE NEEDS OF ITS RESIDENTS OR RESIDENCY OR CITIZENSHIP SENSITIVE MERCY, BUT ALSO RESPONSIVE TO THE, THE DESIRE THAT GOOD GOVERNMENT CAN ACTUALLY EXIST IN, IN OUR WORLD.
AND, AND I DO HOPE THAT EVERYONE IS SAFE.
I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER BONEY HAS RECOVERED FROM KOBE, BUT AS WE ALL UNDERGO RECOVERY AND RESPONSE EFFORTS AND FIGHT AND THE FIGHT OF KOBE AT 19, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO REALLY LOOK COMPREHENSIVELY AT THE APPROACH THAT WE TAKE WHEN WE ARE BACKFILLING A MAJOR POSITION IN OUR CITY.
UH, ONE THAT REPRESENTS NOT ONLY THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, BUT IN MY OPINION, IN MY TRAINING AND MY EXPERIENCE, THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY.
AND I WROTE DOWN SOME COMMENTS THAT REFLECT THAT YOU CAN'T DIE TWICE.
AND WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN WE HAD A DEAD PROCESS THAT PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR NOW A NEW CITY MANAGER AND NOW WE'RE IN THE SAME KIND OF VEIN WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO DIE TWICE.
AND I'M THE HIM AND LEAH TO THAT AND MY TRAINING AND MY EXPERIENCE PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY.
THE FIRST THING THAT ONE SHOULD DO WHEN LOOKING TO BACKFILL THE POSITION IS TO CREATE A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT THE PERSON SHOULD BE.
WE ALL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT UNTIL WE GOOD.
ULTIMATELY, AND I'M THINKING THAT TO COUNCIL MEMBER FOR EMORY'S POINT TO EXPAND A SEARCH THAT WOULD ALLOW, UH,
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BAKER TILLY TO COME IN AND PROVIDE A PLATFORM TO GET THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS IS FUNDAMENTALLY IMPORTANT.I MEAN, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT TOP SHELF STUFF.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, I'M SORRY, NICK HAS MET HIS THREE MINUTE TIME SO FAR, THE MIDDLE EAST SPEAKING THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT PUTS US IN A POSITION TO, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
TARA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN SHOW YOU.
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT THREE ZERO ONE ZERO SUN CITY COURT, MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS 77 FOUR FIVE NINE.
BEEN A RESIDENT OF MISSOURI CITY NOW FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.
UH, WE HAVE ALWAYS TALKED AND I KNOW THAT THE, THE CITY HAS ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND I BELIEVE THAT HIRING BAKER TILLY TO PERFORM THEIR DUTIES HAS LAND BY HAS, IS OUTLINED BY A COUNCILMAN NAMED MARIE, UH, ARE CERTAINLY IN THAT VEIN.
AND, AND TRANSPARENCY IS, IS A KEY TO WHAT ALL OF YOU HAVE RUN ON IS THAT WE NEED A TRANSPARENT CITY AND THIS CERTAINLY WOULD HELP US GET THE INFORMATION FROM ALL PARTS OF THE CITY AS TO WHAT THEY FEEL THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD BE AND WHAT THE POSITION SHOULD BE.
UH, SO TRANSPARENCY IS A KEY, UH, THIS IS LIKE HIRING A CFO OR A CEO OF A CORPORATION AND TO NARROW IT DOWN TO JUST A FEW CHOICES WITHOUT GOING OUT AND FINDING THE, THE BEST POSSIBLE INDIVIDUALS TO FILL THAT POSITION TO ME WOULD BE A VERY NARROW MINDED APPROACH AND CERTAINLY CONTRADICTORY OF THE TRANSPARENCY.
SO I WOULD URGE COUNCIL TO USE BANKER TELLY AND THEIR SERVICES TO, UH, HELP US FIND A GREAT CITY MANAGER.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CITIZEN.
YES, I, AND YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THIS IS REGINALD KIERSTEN, OUR RESIDED ONE FIVE TWO TWO DAFFODIL ROAD, MISSOURI CITY, SEVEN SEVEN FOUR EIGHT NINE.
HELLO, MAYOR COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.
UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AS FORMALLY JUST RECENTLY BEEN ON COUNCIL, I STILL HAVE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY OR A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT REACH OUT AND OTHER TEXTS ME CALL ME OR EVEN EMAIL ME AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS HIRING PROCESS, UM, IN, IN REFERENCE TO THE CITY MANAGER.
AND I PERSONALLY, UH, HAVING WORKED IN CORPORATE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, OVER 20 YEARS, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THERE SEEMS TO BE A RUSH TO DO THINGS.
UH, ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS THAT THEY'VE EXPRESSED TO ME IS THEY DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH THEY HAVE A VOICE.
THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THEIR VOICE.
A NUMBER OF THEM THAT EXPRESS THAT, UH, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WHEN YOU TERMINATE IT, THE PRIOR CITY MANAGER, I'VE LIVED IN MISSOURI CITY FOR OVER 20 YEARS, SO I HAVE A PERSONAL VESTED INTEREST IN IT.
AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT BAKER TILLY SHOULD BE USED, UH, TO CONDUCT A SURVEY BECAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS THEY WANT THEIR VOICE TO BE HEARD AND EVERYONE ON COUNCIL WAS ELECTED.
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AND THE PURPOSE OF BEING ELECTED IS TO LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN LISTENING AND THIS IS AN IDEAL OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ALLOW THEIR VOICE TO BE HEARD.HAVE PASTOR RUDY WIDE AS OUR NEXT SPEAKER.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU.
YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU.
OKAY, WELL THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY PASTOR RUDY WHITE, UM, FAST, THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE CHURCH, 32 22 PARKWAY.
UM, I HAVE A CONCERN WITH THIS SELECTION OF OUR CITY MANAGER AS WELL.
UH, NOT ONLY DO I HAVE, BUT WITH PASTORS AND GETTING, WE'LL BE MEETING AGAIN ABOUT THIS, BUT THE FACT THAT THE NEW CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF SELECTION OF 50 PEOPLE OR MORE IS KIND OF DEPLORABLE.
WE, WE'VE GOT TO WATCH OUT WHAT WE DO FROM HERE BECAUSE THE MISSOURI CITY, THE CITY IS IN AN UPROAR BASED ON THE FACT HOW OUR LAST CITY MANAGER WAS UNSCRUPULOUSLY DISMISSED ON CHRISTIAN.
AND, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ARE WE CREATING SOME MORE TENSION BECAUSE IF YOU, IF, IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO THEIR OWN WAY TO SELECT, THAT'S GOING TO RAISE MORE SUSPICION WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S NOT TRANSPARENCY AND MAYOR YOU AS WELL AS THE OTHERS WHEN YOU RAN YOUR, UM, YOUR PLATFORM ON TRANSPARENCY.
AND, AND SO WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
MISSOURI CITY IS A MAJOR CITY AND THE APPOINTMENT OF THE NEW SENATE CITY MANAGER SHOULD NOT BE HANDLED AS THOUGH WE'RE RUNNING A MOM AND POP SHOP.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO ALLOW, UH, BAKER TAYLOR TO CONDUCT A PROPER SEARCH OR ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, QUALIFIED CANDIDATES NATIONWIDE FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND WE JUST DISAGREE WITH THAT PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
NOW I'M, I'M A PASTOR AND I KNOW BASICALLY IF YOU, IF YOU FARCE, IF SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY FINDS A PASTOR AND THE CHURCH DOESN'T DISAGREE AND THE CHURCH DECIDES THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE A CERTIFIED COMMITTEE, THAT'S SUSPICION.
I DON'T SEE HOW Y'ALL DON'T SEE THAT.
NOW THE COMMUNITY IS A NETWORK AS IT IS.
AND I THINK YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO WHAT'S BEING SAID HERE.
GIVE IT IT, GIVE IT, GIVE IT TO BAKER TAYLOR WHO HAS, WHO HAS DONE IT.
IN FACT FROM MY RESEARCH, WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS THE LAST 20, 30 YEARS.
WHY DO WE WANT TO DO THIS NOW? IT'S RAISING SUSPICION.
IT'S NOT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE YOUR CREDIBILITY WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO RECONSIDER THAT.
LET IT BE DONE AT SOMEONE THAT'S THIS THAT WILL HAVE NO DOG IN THE FIGHT, SO TO SPEAK.
AND YOU HAVE A SENSE OF TRANSPARENCY.
BUT NOW IT'S, IT'S LOOK VERY, YOU KNOW, SPECULATIVE AS THOUGH THERE COULD BE SOME FUNNY STUFF GOING ON BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED SOME THINGS THAT WANT, YOU KNOW, FACTUAL HERE.
AND SO I, I'M SAYING LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY LISTENED TO, UH, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S BEING SAID AND DON'T TRY TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES THURMAN.
YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS JAMES THURMAN, 28 14 WEST PEBBLE BEACH, MISSOURI CITY, SEVEN SEVEN FOUR FIVE NINE.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AND I APPRECIATE THE JOBS THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS DO.
I UNDERSTAND THE JOBS OR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS JOB TO TOUGH.
I NEVER WANTED TO BE ONE THAT'S COME OUT WITH THE CITY MANAGER, BUT I JUST GIVE, I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
IT'S JUST THE PR ABOUT THE PROCESS.
HOW ABOUT GOOD BEST PRACTICES? I SPENT 30 YEARS IN CITY MANAGEMENT FOR DIFFERENT TEXAS CITIES.
I NOW HAVE BEEN TEACHING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON FOR 12 YEARS, AND I TEACH PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AT THE GRADUATE LEVEL.
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CITIES.I CONSULT WITH CITIES ON THEIR CHARTERS, ON ALL TYPES OF ISSUES.
UM, I DO THIS AS PART OF A COMMUNITY SERVICE THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON.
BUT LET ME JUST SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, AN OUTSIDE RECRUITER.
WE USED TO CALL THEM HEAD HUNTERS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL THEM THAT ANYMORE, BUT I'VE BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END AND THE GIVING END OF THAT.
SO I'VE BEEN RECRUITED BY HEAD HUNTERS AND RECRUITERS.
I'VE ALSO BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING ONE A RECRUITER AND ALSO, UH, HAVE OFFERED ADVICE TO MAYORS AND CITY COUNCILS ABOUT, UH, UH, THE POOLS OF APPLICANTS.
UH, SO I, I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT FOR MAJOR CITIES, IT IS REALLY BEST PRACTICES TO USE AN OUTSIDE RECRUITER HEAD HUNTER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
THEN WAY IT SLOWLY TRANSITIONED OVER MY, OVER MY CAREER.
AND NOW IT'S VERY COMMON FOR MAJOR CITIES TO USE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS.
AND I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, IT'S NOT AN A, IT'S NOT THE POINT.
THE FINGER AT MAYORS AND CITY COUNCILS, THE POINT OF THE MATTER IS MAYORS AND CITY COUNCILS, THEY HAD THEIR HANDS FULL RUNNING THE CITY.
SO IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE OF THE, THE, UH, THE FOOT WORK, THE INITIAL RESEARCHES, UH, UH, DO A LOT OF THE LITTLE NITTY GRITTY, LEAVE THAT TO THE PROFESSIONALS, THE EXPERTS.
THEY DO THIS EVERY DAY AND THEY CAN THE END PRODUCT, THE PRODUCT CAN BE A VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED SELECTION POOL FOR YOU.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE RECRUITER IS A UN.
THEY COORDINATE THE PROCESS, THEY OFFERED THEIR EXPERTISE AND YOU'RE STILL IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT.
YOU RECEIVE STATUS REPORTS, YOU, UH, YOU MAKE THE FINAL SELECTION.
SO YOU'RE STILL IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT.
AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, IT NEEDS TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
AND YOU KNOW THIS, AND I KNOW THIS, BUT IT CANNOT, IT'S GOTTA BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE APPLICANTS.
THERE'S A CERTAIN POINT THAT THE APPLICANTS IN THE OLD DAYS AT LEAST YOU COULDN'T REVEAL THE APPLICANTS.
I APPRECIATE YOU FOR LISTENING AND I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
SO IS THERE A MOTION, THE AGENDA ITEM WAS CONSIDERED OBTAINING SERVICES INCLUDING A WEB BASED COMMUNITY SURVEY FROM BAKER TILLY FOR THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH SERVICES FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
IS THERE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION MAN.
MY MOTION AS FAR AS COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO, TASK FOUR AND A WEB BASED COMMUNITY SURVEY FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FROM BAKER UTILITY.
I'M SORRY, BAKER AND TILLY TO BE COMPLETED AND PROVIDED BACK TO THE CITY BY MAY 31ST.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR, UM, ANY TYPE OF DISCUSSION NOW.
ANY COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS, WOULD THAT INCLUDE OPENING UP THE SEARCH TO, UH, ALL THE JOB BOARDS THAT SEARCH FIRMS HAVE? ARE WE NARROWING IT DOWN JUST TO THE FIVE THAT WE INTERVIEWED? YES MA'AM.
DOES YOUR MOTION INCLUDE ALLOWING FROM TO GO OUT AND SEARCH ON ALL THEIR JOB BOARDS OR IS IT NARROWED DOWN TO JUST THE FIVE THAT WE INTERVIEWED? FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING WE WERE CONTINUING TO LOOK AND ACTUALLY SEND THE FIVE AND HAVE MORE UM, APPLICANTS.
YOU KNOW, THE FIVE WERE, THERE WAS A MOTION ON FRIDAY TO SEND THE FIVE OVER.
SO, SO AGAIN, WILL THEY LOOK AT THE FIVE AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE US ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS IN THEIR JOB BOARDS? THAT'S OKAY.
I DON'T, THAT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE TASK THAT YOU IDENTIFIED COUNCIL MEMBER EDWORKS EXCUSE ME.
I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, BUT YEAH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR TASK IF I'M LOOKING AT THE TASK SHEET THAT YOU JUST IDENTIFIED THE TASK, RIGHT? I'M SPEAKING.
YEAH, YOUR MICROPHONE IS MUTED.
I SAID I'M STICKING WITH MY, MY MOTION THAT I JUST STATED, I'M NOT CHANGING THE TASK.
MARY, YOU CAN GO WITH BONY AND THEN I'D LIKE TO SPEAK AFTER HIM PLEASE.
CAUSE YOUR QUESTION DID NOT GET ANSWERED.
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I SAY ANYTHING FURTHER, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED.THIS GOES EXACTLY TO WHAT I BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY IS WORRIED ABOUT.
YOU KNOW THE HEADLINES READ THAT THE COUNCIL IS STUMBLING ON CITY MANAGER SEARCH, ANOTHER ROUTE NEWSPAPER READS, AND THIS IS AN UNORTHODOX APPROACH.
WE JUST HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY WE'VE HEARD FOR ON EMAILS THAT WE SHOULD USE A SEARCH FIRM AND LET THEM WORK WHAT THEY DO BEST, RIGHT TO SEARCH THE DATABASES TO GO OVER TO OVER 6,000 JOB BOARDS TO FIND US THE NEXT CEO.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE RESIDENTS, THE INVESTORS, ALL THE BUSINESSES AND THE CHURCHES THAT WE USE A SEARCH FIRM TO THE FULLEST EXTENT AND COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS JUST SHOWED HOW INCONSISTENT THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN.
WE WENT WITH YES AND NOW WE'RE SAYING NO, SO I'M GOING TO END IT WITH THIS.
SUGARLAND HIRED A NEW CITY MANAGER AFTER 44 YEARS.
THERE WAS NO CONTROVERSY, NO FRONT PAGE NEWS, NO STUMBLING.
LET'S USE TILLY A HUNDRED PERCENT.
PHASE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR PLUS COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY'S A CHOICE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BONEY.
I WANTED TO, I KNOW A MOTION WAS MADE, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THE CITIZENS WHO MAY NOT KNOW THE, UH, THE JARGON THAT WE'RE USING, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO SPELL OUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT SELECT SERVICES ARE BEING PROPOSED, UH, THAT WE USE BAKER TILLY FOR.
UH, THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, UH, ARE THE FOLLOWING.
UH, HAS BAKER TILLY, UH, BEEN CONTACTED AT ALL OR HAVE THEY AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PROVIDING SELECT SERVICES TO US AS IT RELATES TO THIS MANUFACTURED PROCESS? UH, AND OTHER, UH, QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS BASED ON THE ITEMIZED COSTS THAT WERE, UH, REQUESTED OR I GUESS ARE BEING REQUESTED BY THIS MOTION.
UH, AND OF COURSE BY SOME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAS, HAVE WE DETERMINED HOW MUCH THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE TAX PAIRS? AND, UH, AGAIN, IS THERE A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TO RECEIVE THE SELECT SERVICES? BECAUSE I MEAN THE WORST THING THAT WE COULD, THAT WE CAN ENDURE IS TO SAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND BAKER TILLY NOT AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH US.
UM, I CAN ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL LET COUNSEL MEMBER ERRORS CLARIFY HER MOTION.
UM, ONE YES, I'VE SPOKEN WITH BAKER TILLY.
THE ONLY THING THAT I DID SPEAK TO THEM ABOUT, I WANTED TO ENSURE THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SURVEY THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA, I WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET DONE.
SO THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF MY CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
DID YOU, WAS THAT, WAS THERE ANOTHER, I'M SORRY.
UM, THERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDED.
THAT'S A PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
UM, SO YES, THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
UH, OR DO THOSE SERVICES AND SELECT SERVICES THE WAY THAT WE ARE REQUESTING THEM.
ONE THING I DO WANT TO BRING UP BEFORE OUR COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS, UH, CLARIFIES HER MOTION IS THAT, UM, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RUELAS WAS ON COUNCIL IN 2015, UH, AND COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT.
WE WEREN'T EVEN, THE STR WASN'T EVEN ABLE TO GET MORE THAN I THINK 40 APPLICANTS PERIOD WHEN THEY WENT OUT TO SEARCH.
UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET ENTIRELY WAY MORE THAN THAT.
UH, THIS POSITION WAS POSTED ON SEVERAL JOB BOARDS, NEO GOV IPMA, NAC, WLG, VARIOUS VARIOUS SOCIAL MEDIA JOB BOARDS.
SO THERE'S BEEN TRANSPARENCY THE ENTIRE WAY.
THIS WASN'T A HIDDEN POSITION THAT WAS HIDDEN AWAY SOMEWHERE.
AND I ALSO SAW THE AD THAT WAS POSTED, UM, OR THE ARTICLE THAT WAS POSTED, I BELIEVE BY ONE.
UH, UM, I THINK THE HOUSTON CHRONICLE WHO STATED THIS, THE MISSOURI CITY MOVES IN AN UNORTHODOX WAY OF RECEIVING, UM, JOB APPLICANTS FOR THEIR CITY MANAGER
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SEARCH.AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
EVEN WHEN THEY WERE, THE ACTUAL EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRMS WERE ASKED DURING THEIR INTERVIEWS IF OTHER CITIES HAD DONE THIS AND THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID YES.
SO IT WASN'T THAT WE'RE JUST WAY OFF THE MARK AND DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THE QUESTION WAS ASKED HAVE OTHER CITIES DID THIS? AND THEY SAID YES.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, OUR TOP FIVE, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THIS, EITHER OUR TOP FIVE CANDIDATES THAT WE MADE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD.
THEY HAVE MORE CREDENTIALS THAN THE PERSON WE HIRED IN 2015.
THEY HAVE A BILLION DOLLAR PORTFOLIO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THEY HAVE LAW DEGREES, THEY ARE LICENSED CITY MANAGER.
I LASTED, THE MANAGER WASN'T EVEN LICENSED.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE HAD HAPHAZARDLY, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYONE BUT MYSELF.
I WORKED IN HR FOR OVER SIX YEARS AND DID RECRUITING FOR OVER TWO.
SO THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I'VE NEVER DONE.
UM, AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, THE CHARTER SECTION 4.01 SAFE THAT THE COUNCIL BY MAJORITY VOTE WILL HIRE AN APPOINT A CITY MANAGER.
AND IT ALSO STATES THAT THE METHOD OF SELECTION SHALL BE LEFT TO THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE HAS BEEN PLENTY OF TRANSPARENCY.
I THINK EVERY TIME WE HAVE A MEETING THE MEDIA AND WHOEVER ELSE, I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY PULL PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS TO GET THE INFORMATION AS WELL AS WE HAVE THESE VERY LONG CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT BECAUSE THIS IS WHY I MADE SURE THAT BAKER TILLY COULD DO A WEB BASED SURVEY SURVEY ASKED WHAT WAS IN THE AGENDA AND THEY SAID THEY COULD.
I THINK IT'S MORE OF A CASE THAT WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO DO NOT AGREE AND THAT IS FINE.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR EVERY DISTRICT AND THEY'VE GONE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY PUSHED THEIR AGENDA.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
MARY, I, I, I'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED CAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I'VE HAD MY, ANY OF MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION, UH, THAT YOU'RE, UH, SHARING.
BUT, UM, I'M ASKING, I ASKED THREE DISTINCT QUESTIONS, NEITHER OF WHICH I HAVE GOTTEN AN ANSWER TO.
MY FIRST QUESTION WAS WHAT SELECT SERVICES ARE ACTUALLY BEING PROPOSED WITH THIS MOTION.
THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS, HAS BAKER TILLY AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PROVIDING WHATEVER SELECT SERVICES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO THEM AS IT RELATES TO THIS MANUFACTURED FACTORY PROCESS? UH, THE, THE THIRD QUESTION THAT I ASKED WAS BASED ON THE ITEMIZED COSTS FOR THESE SELECT SERVICES, UH, HAVE WE DETERMINED HOW MUCH THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY COST TAXPAYERS? AND DO WE HAVE A CONTRACT PREPARED FOR THESE SELECT SERVICES? I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE FINAL QUESTION BECAUSE YOU JUST BROUGHT IT UP.
THE BARRIERS, JOB BOARDS AND OTHER PLACES THAT THE, UH, THE JOB POSTING WAS, WAS, WAS, UH, WAS PLACED.
UH, WAS THERE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OF THE PLACES, UH, THAT WE, UH, SUBMITTED THESE OR PLACED THESE, UH, JOB DESCRIPTIONS OR, UH, THIS JOB SOLICITATION? AND IF SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COST AND WHO AUTHORIZED THAT TO BE PAID.
SO YOUR FIRST THREE QUESTIONS ARE TIED TO THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE.
SO IF COUNCIL MEMBER EVERS WANTS TO CLARIFY HER MOTION BEFORE MAYOR BEFORE SHE DOES THAT, MAY I, MAY I ASK FOR CLARITY? YES.
I THINK WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK THAT SOME OF THE SERVICES WERE GOING TO BE BACKGROUND CHECK ASSESSMENTS AND VETTING AS WELL ALSO.
AND I KNOW WE WENT OVER THAT SEVERAL TIMES, SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE THERE'S NO CLARITY, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED.
SECONDLY, UH, I'VE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH MYSELF.
I HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I'D LIKE ANSWERS TO.
SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STERLING, CAN I PLEASE HAVE MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED? WELL, SIR, I THOUGHT YOU WERE FINISHED BECAUSE I, I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT.
I WILL CONCEDE THAT LET YOU PROCEED AND THEN I WILL COME BACK AND ADDRESS MY QUESTION AGAIN.
THANK YOU COUNCIL WOMAN, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME SIR.
COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS, PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
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MA'AM.WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO REPEAT IT? YES.
WELL WE WANT YOU TO REPEAT AND I THINK UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BALDY WAS ASKING ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT ARE I GUESS DESIGNATED IN THAT MOTION.
AND PART OF THIS QUESTION, THAT INFORMATION IS A PART OF THE ATTACHMENT AND THE AMENDMENT AND I'M SORRY TO OFFEND HIM SO HE CAN REFER TO THAT.
AND AS WELL AS THE, THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ON THE WEB AS WELL.
I GUESS I WAS ASKING FOR THE SAKE OF THE CITIZENS.
UH, I THINK THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VOTING ON, IT WOULD BE A GOOD TO SHARE WITH THE CITIZENS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING WITH YOUR MOTION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GO AND LOOK FOR IT THEMSELVES OR I COULD GO AND LOOK FOR IT MYSELF.
BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SINCE WE'RE HERE ON THE, ON THE PHONE AND WE HAVE A, A LIVE MEETING, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SHARE THAT WITH THE AND WITH, WITH EVERYONE WHO, WHO WOULD CARE TO KNOW.
COUNCIL MEMBER BONNIE, PHASE TWO, TASK FOUR.
IT ALSO STATES REFERENCE CHECKS, CHECKING THE REFERENCES, CHECKING BACKGROUND CHECKS, ASSESSMENTS, ACADEMIC VERIFICATIONS, THE LEAD CONSULTANT HOURLY, RIGHT.
APPROXIMATELY 11 HOURS RESEARCH, ANYTHING THAT CONSISTS OF THAT.
AND IT'S PRICED AT ROUGHLY FOUR, THREE TO $4,000.
WAS THAT THE ONLY THING? JUST THE BACKGROUND SET CHECKS? UH, SORRY.
EVERYTHING THAT WAS I JUST MENTIONED.
SO JUST THE BACKGROUND CHECK CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE READ.
THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS SHE READ OFF.
I KNOW SHE READ SEVERAL ITEMS. I JUST DON'T, YEAH, REFERENCE CHECKS, BACKGROUND CHECKS, ASSESSMENTS, ACADEMIC VERIFICATION, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE WHATEVER TYPE OF GRADE THAT THEY ARE STATING THAT THEY HAVE.
THAT'S MORE THAN A BACKGROUND.
SO THAT WAS PART OF MY, YES MA'AM.
I WAS GONNA LET HIM REMEMBER THAT.
THAT'S WHY I STATED I DID NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY MOTION.
AS I STATED IN MY MOTION, A WEB BASED SURVEY FOR THE COMMUNITY WILL BE PROVIDED AS WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCILWOMAN FOR ONLY 50 PEOPLE.
CORRECT? NO, FOUR OR FIVE FOR THE, FOR THE FIVE PEOPLE.
UH, WELL ANYWAY, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THAT.
I THINK, YEAH, I THINK THAT IT WASN'T A CONCERN.
TH THIS WAS FOR THEM OR AM I INTRUDING ON ANYBODY'S TIME? COUNSEL WOMAN COUNCIL WOMAN STERLING.
BUT THERE WAS ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING STARTS THE OTHER QUESTION YOU ASKED ABOUT WHO APPROVED THE COST ON POSTING.
I BELIEVE IF THE COST IS UNDER THE 49,900 AND WHATEVER, THERE'S DISCRETION IN STAMPS, BUDGET FOR ITEMS SUCH AS THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS A COST.
UH, IS MARTIN ON THE LINE? YES, I AM ONLINE.
MARTIN, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY COSTS FOR POSTING ANY OF THE JOBS? NOT THE POSTINGS I POSTED NOW.
I DO BELIEVE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS HAD SOME ADDITIONAL POSTINGS, UM, FOR THAT POSITION AND I DO BELIEVE THERE WAS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UH, MS. WALKER, STACY WALKER, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES.
ARE YOU AWARE OR WERE YOU, DID YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR ANY OF THE POSTINGS AND HOW MUCH WERE THEY ITSELF? SO BASED ON THE CITY'S LONG TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH ICM, WE DID A PACKAGE ADD ON THEIR JOB CENTER.
UM, IT WAS $562 50 CENTS, AND IT WAS POSTED AS A FEATURE AD, UH, WHICH IS PROMINENTLY HIGHLIGHTED ON THEIR HOMEPAGE WITH A RED BANNER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE IT VERY WELL.
IT WAS ALSO PROMOTED, PROMOTED THROUGH THEIR LEADERSHIP, UH, MATTERS NEWSLETTER, WHICH GOES OUT TO EVERY ORGANIZATION MEMBER EVERY TUESDAY.
THEY HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 10,000
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MEMBERS OF IC MAY THAT IT GOES TO 15,000 NON-MEMBERS.UM, IT WAS ALSO POSTED AS A PART OF THEIR I CMA, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS PARTNERSHIP AND WOMEN LEADING GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S AN AFFILIATE ORGANIZATION FOR I CMA AND THAT'S ANOTHER 20,000 PEOPLE.
ADDITIONALLY, IT WAS POSTED ON THE CITY'S FACEBOOK PAGE ON THE JOB.
WE DID, HOWEVER, BOOST IT NATIONALLY FOR $50.
AND THEN IT WAS ALSO POSTED ON THE CITY'S LINKEDIN PAGE AT NO COST AND THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL COST TO BOOST IT THERE.
I COUNCIL MEMBER BONY, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE REQUESTING? OH YEAH, IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO KNOW IF, UH, IF THERE WAS ANY COST ASSOCIATED BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WERE POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE SPENDING BY UTILIZING THE, AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM ALTOGETHER.
AND I JUST WANTED TO GET THE, UH, OF ALL, UH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT, UH, I JUST, I HAVE CHALLENGED WITH REDUNDANCY, BUT THEN I KNOW WE KEEP GOING OVER THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING, BUT LET ME MOVE, LET ME ASK FOR CLARITY BECAUSE I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH.
SO IN OUR LAST SEARCH FOR THIS CITY MANAGER, UH, DID THE COUNCIL HAVE AS MUCH INPUT AS WE'RE HAVING NOW? PARDON ME? TOTALLY.
I WAS IT SOLELY BY THE HELLO? YEAH.
SO YOUR QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBERS STERLING AT THE, UH, IN 2015, UH, ONE, THE UM, ACTUAL COUNCIL DID NOT EVEN, IT PICKED THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.
UM, ONCE THE FIRM WAS, WAS CHOSEN, UH, THEN THE MAYOR WAS DESIGNATED AS THE POINT OF CONTACT TO DEAL WITH THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH AGENCY AND WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING BACK UNTIL THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH, UM, COMPANY AT THAT POINT.
ONCE WE WERE INTRODUCED TO THEM AFTER THAT, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ENGAGEMENT WITH THEM UNTIL THEY GAVE US THE FINAL OR THERE, ONCE THEY WENT THROUGH ALL THE RESUMES, WE GOT LIKE A CUT OF THE FINAL 16.
AT THAT POINT, THE COUNCIL WAS ENGAGED TO DECIDE OUT OF THAT 16 WHO WE WANTED TO SCREEN, WHICH WAS CUT DOWN TO THREE.
I THINK NEXT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY AND THEN IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER MARULA.
UH, ONE IS, UH, THE, THE PROCESS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH, THAT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE COUNCIL WAS INVOLVED QUITE HEAVILY, UH, ONCE THEY, UH, HELLO.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.
COUNSEL AND MEMORY SOMEONE ELSE'S ON THE LINE.
THIS WAS SPECIAL SESSION OR HAS THE MEETING STARTED? THIS IS THE SPECIAL MEETING.
WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT THE COUNCIL WAS INVOLVED QUITE HEAVILY AFTER THE, UH, THE SEARCH FIRM PROVIDED THE 15 OR SO, UH, CANDIDATES.
UH, I WOULD ALSO INDICATE AND, AND STATE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHILE THERE'S A NUMBER OF JOB BOARDS AND, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, MEDIUMS THAT, UH, THE, UH, UH, JOB, UH, WAS POSTED ON.
IT DID NOT LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.
IT DID NOT INCLUDE THE PROPRIETARY DATABASES THAT THE SEARCH FIRMS HAVE IN THIS CASE, A PROPRIETARY DATABASE THAT THEY, UH, CAN GO, UH, AND, AND PULL CANDIDATES.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M COMING BACK TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, TAKING 50 CANDIDATES APPLICATIONS, PARING IT DOWN TO FIVE, AND SAYING THAT'S GOING TO BE THE UNIVERSE THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE TO DETERMINE WHO OUR NEW CITY MANAGER IS, I THINK, UH, IS, UH, IS SHORTSIGHTED.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT, UH, TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION ANYTHING THAT THE CITIZENS OR THE COMMUNITY INPUT WOULD HAVE BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY SELECTED THE FIVE.
SO, UH, AND, UH, SO THE FINAL THING IS,
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UH, JUST A CLARIFICATION ON COUNSEL LADIES.UM, EDWARD'S MOTION, WHAT SHE, UH, UH, IS, IS RECOMMENDING ARE, UH, IN HER MOTION IS ALL THOSE THINGS UNDER PHASE TWO TASK FORCE.
THAT'S JUST ONE FAN THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE SCREENING, DOESN'T INCLUDE ACTUALLY, UH, GOING OUT AND IDENTIFYING ADDITIONAL QUALITY CANDIDATES.
AND, UH, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE FINAL, UH, UM, PROCESS ONSITE INTERVIEWS, UH, WITH, UH, WITH FINALIST.
SO, UH, I, I, I GUESS I'M AT LOSS AS TO EXACTLY WHAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO CONTRACT WITH.
AND FINALLY, UH, THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THERE ARE OTHER CITIES OR OTHER AGENCIES THAT USE SOMETHING OTHER THAN A, UH, FINDING A, A ARE USING A SEARCH FIRM TO FIND THEIR CANDIDATES.
BUT I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THAT IS SUCH A SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT THAT IS IN FACT OUT OF THE NORM AND NOT THE NORMAL, NO, THE, THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT WHEN THE FIRMS WERE ASKED IF OTHER SEARCH FIRMS WERE, UM, OR IF OTHER CITIES DID THEIR PROCESS BY SELECTING CERTAIN SERVICES, THE SEARCH FIRMS SAID YES, THAT SEVERAL CITIES HAVE DONE THAT.
SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT USING A EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM AT ALL, IT'S JUST THAT THEY CHOSE THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEEDED WAS ONE OF, MAY I ASK THE QUESTION THEN WAS ONE OF THOSE, SINCE YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN TALKING WITH BAKER TILLY WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT THEY DIDN'T USE WAS DEFINED ADDITIONAL CAMPAIGNS.
THEY RELY ON THIS, WHOEVER THAT CITY OUR AGENCY WAS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH, HERE ARE THE CANDIDATES THAT I WANT YOU TO VET.
I ONLY ASKED BAKER FERTILITY ABOUT THE SURVEY.
WELL TO ME THAT'S, THAT'S PARAMONT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UH, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT, UH, PIECE OF INFORMATION TO FIND OUT, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
WHEN IT GETS TO THE BOTTOM LINE.
CAN WE FIND OTHER CANDIDATES TO PUT WITH THOSE FIVE THAT WE'VE ALREADY SELECTED THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND PICK OUT AND THAT ALL OF THOSE AND THEN BRING THAT ALL BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR OUR DECISION AS TO WHO WE THINK IS THE BEST PERSON FOR THAT, UH, FOR OUR CITY MANAGER.
AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU HAD A COMMENT? YES MA'AM.
BEFORE I SAY MY COMMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF DOUG OR MARIA COULD PERHAPS PUT ON THE PRESENTATION THE LIST OF THE PROPOSED FEE BREAKDOWN SO THAT THE PUBLIC SEES THE BREAKDOWN.
ALL 53 PARTICIPANTS SEIZED PHASE ONE, TWO, THREE WHILE WE TRY TO LOAD THAT.
UM, YOU WERE RIGHT, MAYOR, WHEN WE RECEIVED THE BINDER OF APPLICANTS, UM, BACK IN 2015 WERE FLOATED AND I YOURSELF WHERE WE WERE HANDED JUST A SELECT FEW.
THAT'S BECAUSE THEY VETTED THROUGH THEM AND HANDED US THE BINDER.
BUT THAT'S THE PAST WHEN WE SAT DOWN AND WE LISTENED TO ALL FIVE SEARCH FIRMS, WHAT WE HEARD WAS THAT THEY HAVE LARGE JOB BOARDS THAT THEY HAVE FOR PARKER SOFTWARE.
IT WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, UM, PLATFORM THAT THEY USE, NOT LIKE THE PAST.
SO WE ARE UPGRADING, WE CAN EXPAND OUR, SO YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAD A SMALL BINDER BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE SGR STARTED FROM.
AND I BELIEVE THAT BAKER TILLY HAS MORE THAT WE CAN TAP INTO.
AND SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS PROCESS IS GOING WELL.
WE NEED TO RETHINK THIS, NOT FOR THIS QUOTE AGENDA THAT YOU MENTIONED, BUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE MORE THING, MAYOR, IF I COULD.
I WANT TO JUST MAKE IT CLEAR, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I KEEP HEARING THE WORDS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'RE NOT GETTING OR REDUNDANCY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS AND CONVERSATIONS, UH, THE CITIZENS HAVE NOT HEARD.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, WHICH I'VE ALWAYS INDICATED I FEEL SHOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, HELD IN THE PUBLIC FORUM AND NOT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS IT RELATES TO THE PROCESS OF SELECTING AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.
AND SO I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT,
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UH, TO GET CLARITY.AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING, UH, TO REPEAT A QUESTION OR TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BECAUSE MUCH OF THIS STUFF WE'RE HEARING FOR THE FIRST TIME OURSELVES AS, AS COLLEAGUES.
UH, AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF I HAVE QUESTIONS, IF I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT IS BEING REQUESTED, UH, BECAUSE I DO REPRESENT A INDIVIDUAL, I DON'T JUST REPRESENT PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT.
I REPRESENT THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY.
WHEN I MAKE DECISIONS, I DON'T JUST MAKE DECISIONS FOR DISTRICT B.
I MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND THE CITIZENS OF MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS, UH, WHO, WHO I REPORT TO.
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR, UM, THIS REDUNDANT, UH, POINT IS THAT I, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS OF MISSOURI ARE OUR BOSSES.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WE REPORT TO THAT WE, THAT WE SHOULD LISTEN TO WHEN IT COMES TO SITUATIONS, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS SELECTING THE CEO OF OUR CITY.
AND SO WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, IT SOUNDED TO ME AS ALL I HEARD WAS THE, UH, BACKGROUND CHECK BEING DONE, BUT WE WERE ASKING TO IT, I WAS ASKING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THIS INCLUDED A TRUE AND PROPER VETTING, UH, UH, PROCESS TAKE PLACE BECAUSE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT HAS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT BEEN DONE IN THE HISTORY OF MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS.
AND I KNOW IT WAS STATED BY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE THAT, ALTHOUGH IT HADN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE.
WE'RE, WE'VE CROSSED THAT BRIDGE AND THE TRAIN HAS LEFT THE STATION, BUT I BELIEVE WE OWE IT TO OUR CITIZENS TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT.
UH, WE NEED TO SPELL OUT EVERY SINGLE THING TO ENSURE THAT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHERE WE'RE GOING, AND, UH, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.
LAST POINT I WANNA MAKE IS THIS.
UH, WHEN I CAME BACK FROM, UH, BEING ILL, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I RECALL US DOING WAS VOTING TO, UH, ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH SELECTING AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.
SO WHEN YOU USE THE TERM EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM, THE KEY IN IN THAT, UH, DESCRIPTION IS SEARCH.
AND SO WE ALL COLLABORATIVELY AND UNANIMOUSLY VOTED THAT WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.
AND THEN LATER ON IN THE PROCESS ON THE DAY THAT WE ACTUALLY HEARD FROM THE FINAL THREE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRMS WHO DID A PRESENTATION, IT WAS ONLY THEN THAT THE FLIP THE SCRIPT FLIP WHERE WE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.
WE'RE GOING TO ONLY USE THEM ON A SELECT SERVICES BASED.
AND SO, UH, I JUST WANT US TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE GAME AS WE CONTINUE TO GO ALONG, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO BE, UH, HONORABLE IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER AS COLLEAGUES SO THAT I CAN KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO EXPECT.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A SAY ONE THING THIS DAY AND THEN A MONTH LATER NOW WE'RE DOING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I RESPECTFULLY UH, YOU KNOW, YIELD TO YOU MAYOR AND ANYONE ELSE WHO MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
SO THIS REALLY QUICK, I'LL HAVE STAFF PULL TOGETHER A TIMELINE OF THE MOTIONS.
I BELIEVE EVEN DURING THE FIRST CONVERSATION, UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, STERLING IN REFERENCE TO US BEING ABLE TO DO THIS IN HOUSE AND WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING SEARCH FIRMS TO GET SOMEONE ON CONTRACT.
UH, AS THOSE CONVERSATIONS MOVE FORWARD, I THINK YOU WERE OUT, UM, SICK, UH, THERE WAS A DECISION TO UTILIZE THEM FOR THEIR PROFESSIONAL SELECT SERVICES.
BUT WHAT I'LL DO TO NOT DELAY AND KEEP GOING IN CIRCLES IS I'LL HAVE STAFF PULL TOGETHER A TIMELINE AND HIGHLIGHT EACH STEP THAT WE'VE TAKEN AND HOW THIS PROCESS HAS KIND OF COME OUT THE WASH.
SO THAT SHOULD HELP AND GET THAT TO US BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK.
MAY I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT AS WELL.
GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING.
I JUST WANT THE CITIZEN OF MISSOURI CITY TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS NOT DONE, UH, INDEPENDENTLY OF ANY ONE, UH, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT EACH ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE GIVEN ALL 50 APPLICATIONS TO VET.
HOWEVER, SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS REFUSE TO BET THEM.
SO I WANT THAT TO BE KNOWN SO THAT IT'S NOT LIKE A SANDBOX, ONE SIDED, UH, DIMENSION HERE.
CAUSE EVERYONE WAS GIVEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AND EVERYONE WAS GIVEN THE SAME CHARTS.
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SO I JUST WANT TO LET THE CITIZEN MISSOURI CITY UNDERSTAND THAT.AND WE ARE USING THE FIRM AND I THINK THERE'S SOME UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S NOT A SEARCH FIRM BEING USED.
WE ARE, IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ROULIS? NO, IT'S COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY.
I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, ON THE, UH, THE MOTION THAT THE COUNCIL LADY, UH, EDWARDS PUT FORWARD, UH, AS FAR AS USING THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, THE WEB BASED SURVEY.
DID SHE INDICATE THAT SHE WANTED THAT COMPLETED BY MAY 31ST? YES, SIR.
DO YOU, UH, I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE DO SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S EFFECTIVE IN TWO WEEKS BY GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITIZENS TO, UH, TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK? SO THAT, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I HAVE AS FAR AS THE TIMING OF WHEN YOU'D BE LOOKING FOR THE, UH, THE FEEDBACK COMING, UH, FROM, UH, THAT SURVEY.
CONSIDERING IT WAS BASED ONLINE, I FELT LIKE IT WAS TWO WEEKS WAS AN AMPLE ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO RECEIVE SOME TYPE OF FEEDBACK.
WHY NOT USE A SEARCH FIRM IN ALL OF ITS SERVICES? SO IT'S, IT'S OF MY OPINION THAT THE COUNCIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIRING A CITY MANAGER.
WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, WE WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN WHAT WE NEED THAN ANY SEARCH FIRM, WHATEVER, KNOW WHAT MISSOURI CITY NEEDS.
UH, EACH ONE OF US REPRESENT AN AREA, IF NOT THE ENTIRE CITY.
UM, AS SOME OF YOU, I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE, THEIR CITIZENS WHO SPOKE, UM, I'VE BEEN IN THIS CITY FOR 41 YEARS.
UM, I THINK I'M VERY IN TOUCH.
I'VE WALKED PRETTY MUCH EVERY STREET WHILE CAMPAIGNING.
UM, AND EVEN WITH THAT BEING SAID, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, SGR PROVIDED TO US LAST TIME, LIKE 35 CANDIDATES BEFORE THEY EVEN CUT OUT TO THE 16, IT WAS LESS THAN 40.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET WELL OVER 50 CANDIDATES AND THEN EVEN THE POOL WE DO HAVE IS BEYOND QUALIFIED.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BILLION DOLLAR PORTFOLIOS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FINANCE BACKGROUNDS, LAW DEGREES.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE POOL THIS POOL OF CHUMPS.
I MEAN, WE HAVE VERY, VERY QUALIFIED PEOPLE.
UM, I KNOW I MENTIONED THAT, UH, I DIDN'T, UH, I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FURTHER, BUT I DID WANT TO STATE THAT, UM, UH, MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED AT, UM, THERE WAS SOME CO SOME OF US THAT DID NOT VET CANDIDATES.
I DON'T KNOW WHO SHE MAY BE REFERRING TO, BUT, UH, IF YOU CALL RECEIVING APPLICATIONS OR RESUMES, UH, AND LOOKING AT THOSE RESUMES AND USING THAT AS THE DETERMINATION AS TO WHO OUT OF 50 INDIVIDUALS YOU FEEL IS THE BEST CANDIDATE WITHOUT HAVING ANY OTHER BACKGROUND INFORMATION OTHER THAN WHAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY GOOGLE ABOUT THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
OR DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON, I DON'T CONSIDER THAT TO BE PROPERLY VETTING A CANDIDATE IF ALL YOU'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT RESUMES AND OR APPLICATIONS.
AND SO, UH, I KNOW FOR ME, WHEN IT CAME TIME TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVOCATE OF SUBMITTING ALL THE APPLICANTS TO A SEARCH FIRM TO BE PROPERLY VETTED.
AND SO I LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION, EVERY SINGLE RESUME THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
AND I HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT IN SAYING THAT I WANT ALL CANDIDATES TO BE CONSIDERED NOT BY JEFF BONEY BUT BY A QUALIFIED EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRMS. SO I JUST WANT ON THE RECORD THAT TO BE A CLEAR, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE ASSUMED THAT BASED OFF OF MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS THAT I WAS NOT, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO QUOTE UNQUOTE VETTED THESE OR IT NOT VET THESE CANDIDATES.
AND SO JUST AS A FYI, IN 2016 WHEN WE RECEIVED THE 16, THE POOL OF 16, IT WAS JUST RESUMES.
THEY DIDN'T START DOING MANAGEMENT
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ASSESSMENTS AND BEDDING BACKGROUNDS UNTIL WE GOT DOWN TO THE LAST THREE.MY POINT IN THE MATTER IS THAT AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM PROVIDED YOU AFTER HAVING DONE ALL OF THE OTHER VETTING BECAUSE IN SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS WE DID RECEIVE MAYOR AS YOU KNOW, UH, THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE NOT QUALIFIED AND DID NOT MEET ANY OF OUR CRITERIA.
SO REALLY WHEN WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT 50 OR SO APPLICATIONS OUT OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, YOU HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT MANY OF THOSE, UH, DID NOT EVEN FIT OUR CRITERIA OF WHAT WE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER FOR A CITY MANAGER.
SO WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EVEN LESS THAN THE 50.
WE KEEP THROWING OUT THE 50 NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVE.
BUT OUT OF THE, OUT OF THAT 50, UH, SEVERAL OF THOSE, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THOSE DID NOT EVEN MEET OUR, YEAH.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, MAYOR, THAT ALL YOU GUYS RECEIVED WAS, WAS, UM, WAS RESUMES OR APPLICATIONS, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T ON COUNCIL THEN.
I'M ON COUNCIL NOW AND I JUST KNOW THAT FOR ME, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE I'M MAKING THE PROPER AND RIGHT DECISION, I WOULD TRUST JUST LIKE OUR HR DIRECTOR, MARTIN RUSSELL HAS, UH, SHARED WITH US ON COUNTLESS OCCASIONS HOW, UH, UH, THE PRUDENT DECISION, UH, WOULD BE TO HIRE AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM SO THAT I STILL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THAT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR UP AGAIN THAT POINT TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, I DID NOT, UH, REFUSE TO VET CANDIDATES.
UH, I WANTED THEM TO BE PROPERLY VETTED BY A QUALIFIED EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP GOING BACK TO THE PRIOR WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH EACH SEARCH FIRM AND THEY LAY IT OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO AND IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT THAN THE PAST, CAUSE PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'VE DONE.
THIS IS NOT HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST.
WELL THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
AND THEN JUST FOR CLARITY FOR THE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE LISTENING TONIGHT, 53 PARTICIPANTS, I TOO WENT THROUGH RESUMES.
I DID NOT SUBMIT EVERYBODY I WENT THROUGH WHO I THOUGHT SHOULD GO TO THE NEXT STEP AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME.
ONE MORE COMMENT AND THEN IT HAS TO DO WITH THE UH, THE WEB BASED SURVEY AND UH, I, I'VE BEEN IN MISSOURI CITY FOR 40 YEARS ALSO AND I THINK I HAVE A DECENT FEEL FOR WHAT IS GOING ON IN CERTAIN AREAS, BUT I WILL NEVER SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAN I AM THOUGH.
NO ONE ALL OR NO EVOLVE, UH, AND WON'T GO BACK TO THE CITIZENS AND ASK THEM TO TELL ME WHAT THEY THINK IS THEIR PRIORITY.
I THINK THAT, UH, FOR ME IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD NEVER DO RIGHT HERE.
LASTLY, BEAR, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS TWO WEEK TIMEFRAME THAT'S BEING PROPOSED THERE, A MAJOR HOLIDAY THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE, UH, CALLED MEMORIAL DAY DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.
SO I JUST WANT US TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WILL BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES OR MAYBE DOING OTHER THINGS THAT MAY DETER THEM OR ENABLE THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO COMPLETE A SURVEY.
SO IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE MORE SENSE TO EXTEND THAT TIME.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, FOUR WEEKS OR A MONTH TIMEFRAME WOULDN'T BE MORE SUFFICIENT.
THE RECOMMENDATION, MARIA IS THERE, MARIA, IS THERE ANOTHER REASON WHY WE CAN'T GET THAT PRICE PAGE UP ON THE SCREEN SO THE PUBLIC CAN LOOK AT THE RATES? YEAH.
LIKE ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL IT UP? OH MAN, I'M SORRY.
SO THE TOTAL COST OF A SEARCH FIRM WOULD BE 24,500 WITH COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY'S SUGGESTION, IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 1650.
THE TASKS WOULD INCLUDE PROFILE DEVELOPMENTS AND IDENTIFY, SO PHASE ONE TASK TO IDENTIFY QUALITY CANDIDATES, LEAD CONSULTANT AND THEN GIVES YOU THE HOURLY RATE.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S 24,500? YES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHTY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE, I'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
AND ALSO I WILL ALSO MOVE ON TO FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
UH, SINCE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, UH, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE MOTION.
AND THE SECOND THAT'S ON THE TABLE.
COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS MADE THE MOTION
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COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING MADE THE SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER.BONEY COUNCIL MEMBER RULE IS NO COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY AND THIS IS MAYOR FORD.
[(g) Consider requiring the executive search firm to screen and identify candidates for the city manager position.]
AGENDA ITEM IS GE CONSIDER REQUIRING THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM TO SCREEN AND IDENTIFY CANDIDATES FOR THE CITY MANAGER POSITION.COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY REQUESTED THAT THIS GO ONTO THE AGENDA.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY? NO.
ONLY THAT, UH, THAT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, OFF THE PRICE LIST.
AGAIN, NOW I'LL SAY THAT I THINK WE NEED TO CAST A WIDER NET FOR OUR, UM, CITY MANAGER AND JUST DOING IT OFF OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED I THINK IS WOEFULLY SHARP AND I THINK, UH, DOESN'T, UH, IS A DISSERVICE TO OUR, OUR CITIZENS.
UM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE WE OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.
SO WE HAVE, UH, DOUG ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, ARE THEY STILL THERE? OKAY.
BEFORE I'M TO START, LET ME START MY OWN TIMER BECAUSE I FELT LIKE I GOT SHORTED LAST TIME.
ONE, THE BAKER AND THE BUTCHER IS NEVER IN THE KITCHEN AT THE SAME TIME AND TWO, IF YOU WANT TO GO FAST, GO ALONE.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO FAR, LET'S GO TOGETHER.
I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO BE VERY COGNIZANT THAT THE ADVICE THAT SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE MADE APPLIES IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.
I CAN SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION OF WHAT'S THE RUSH WE'RE RECOVERING FROM COVERT IN OUR COUNTRY IS PRETTY MUCH AT ITS KNEES, NOT TO MENTION OUR CITY AND IF WE'RE TRYING TO ACCELERATE THIS TO THE POINT THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS THAT WE ARE ENDING, WE'RE GOING TO FIND OURSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE A PERSON WALKS INTO A NEW JOB, THEY HAVE A CULTURE TO DEAL WITH, THEY HAVE STAFF AND MORALE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY ALMOST IMPACTED BY THE REMOVAL OF THE FORMER CITY MANAGER THAT IF COST IS CITY OVER $300,000 AN HOUR, TAPPING ON TOP OF THAT ANOTHER $30,000 TO SAY THAT WE WANT TO ONLY USE HALF THE PIG AND THAT'S A PROBLEM TO ME.
IF WE HAVE A CAR, LET'S USE THE CAR TO ITS FULLEST EXTENT AND NOT JUST SAY, LET US JUST USE THE TRANSMISSION WITHOUT THE ENGINE.
SO LET'S KIND OF LOOK AT THIS MORE COMPREHENSIVE.
IT'S NOT ONLY IMPACTING COUNCIL ACCORDING TO WHAT WAS STATED EARLIER BY THE CHARTER, BUT THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT STAFF STAFF WHO HAS FAMILY STAFF, WHO DEPENDS ON THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL AS THOSE WHO ARE INFLUENCING THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST DECISION THAT WE CAN MAKE AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
WE'VE ALREADY SUFFERED FROM A BOTCH PROCESS WITH THE REMOVAL.
WE DON'T NEED A BATCH PROCESS WITH THE REPLACEMENT.
AND LASTLY, GUYS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO CUT SOMEBODY OFF, DON'T REMOVE THEM FROM ZOOM.
PLEASE JUST PAUSE IT A MUTE AND GIVE THE CITIZENS WHO PAY OFF HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS INTO SPENDING OUR TIME TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND OPPORTUNITY TO BE RESPECTED.
AND I HOPE CIVILITY ALSO EXUDE ALL COUNCIL BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET ALONG PEOPLE.
IF YOU WANT TO GO FAST, GO ALONE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO FAR, LET'S GO TOGETHER.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHARLES B.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MR B, I CAN HEAR YOU.
I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASONING FOR EVERYTHING BEING IN SUCH A RUSH.
ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE A CAPABLE GENTLEMEN HANDLING THAT, THOSE THERE, THESE NOW AND WE'RE IN A, WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, NO ONE WANTS TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING AND EVERYONE SEEMS TO ALREADY HAVE THEIR MINDS MADE UP.
IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FROM A CITIZEN STANDPOINT AND, UH, RARELY I GUESS THERE'S NO POINT IN WASTING YOUR TIME OR MINE CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO ME ANYWAY.
SO, UH, YOU NEED TO HIRE A SEARCH FIRM.
YOU NEED THE BIGGEST NICHE YOU CAN THROW AND GET EVERYBODY IN THERE AND, BUT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WHAT, UH,
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PART OF THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN.SO WITH THAT, I'LL, UH, I'LL LEAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND STAFF.
ONCE AGAIN, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, WHAT'S THE RUSH TO, HAVEN'T YOU GUYS LEARNED ANYTHING? YOU ATTEMPTED TO DISMISS THE PRIOR CITY MANAGER UNDER THE COVER OF DARKNESS.
NOW YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO RUSH THROUGH THIS.
IF YOU WOULD SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS YOU DID, ATTEMPTING TO REMOVE OUR PRIOR CITY MANAGER TO BEING AS THOROUGH AS POSSIBLE AND CASTING THE BIGGEST NET THAT CAN BE CAST.
YOU SPENT OVER $300,000 TERMINATING HIM, BUT NOW YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND BUT A LITTLE MONEY TO GET A NEW CITY MANAGER.
IN MY OPINION, YOU NEED TO LISTEN.
AND I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE ON COUNCIL, BUT YOU'RE NOT LISTENING.
YOU'RE TRYING TO RUSH THROUGH SOMETHING.
AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE UNDERLYING COMMENTS THAT THERE IS A HIDDEN AGENDA BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO GET THE BEST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE, YOU SHOULD USE A SEARCH FIRM AND YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR TIME.
LONG TIME RESIDENT A DOCTOR DOUG IS GRACE ON THE LINE? YES, HE'S ON
WELL, I WANT TO SAY TO THE COUNCIL AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AT ALL.
YOU LISTEN WHEN WE PUT Y'ALL IN OFFICE, BUT THAT'S IT.
WELL THAT'S A LESSON FOR US AS WELL.
WELL, WE'RE EXPERIENCING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WISDOM TO EVEN CREATE THE HABIT AMONG THE CITY COUNCILMAN, IF, IF YOU GUYS JUST, THAT THE HISTORY HAS BEEN THAT YOU HIRE FROM JUST TO HAVE UNITY, YOU'RE DOING NOTHING FOR THE SAKE OF UNITY.
THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU GOTTA DO FOR THE SENSE OF UNITY.
IF YOU HIRED US, IF THE CITY HIRED A EXECUTIVE SEARCH, IT WOULD EVEN UNIFY THE COUNCIL.
BUT YOU'RE CONSTANTLY BRINGING THE VISION IN THE CITY.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ODD FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
I MEAN, LIVE, THAT'S NOT WHAT LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST, I MEAN, I'M JUST REALLY DISTURBED JUST ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP HERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE TO US AS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE FIRED, UH, WE GOT THE FIRST BLACK MAYOR AND WE WENT IN THE FIRST BLACK CITY MANAGER.
WE FIND HIM DOING BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU GUYS DOING? NO WISDOM.
WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN, YOU COULD HAVE LET ANTHONY GO AT THE END OF HIS TIME.
THAT'S NOT WISDOM AND IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT WISDOM.
I'M JUST EMBARRASSED TO SAY, BUT Y'ALL NOT LISTENING, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WE KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT.
IT'S PASTOR DENNIS YOUNG THERE.
IS PASTOR DENNIS YOUNG THERE? I DON'T SEE HIM.
WILLIAM CRONIN MAYOR, HE SUBMITTED COMMENTS TO, UM, HE SUBMITTED COMMENTS TO CITY COUNCIL AND THAT A REQUEST TO SPEAK BEFORE COUNCIL.
AND WE'LL GO BACK TO FRED GRAPES.
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ALL RIGHT.I SEE HIM THERE AND HIS MIC IS ON.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND END THE PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW.
IS THERE A MOTION? HELLO? HELLO? YES.
IS THIS MR. BATES? NO, THIS IS FONTENEAU.
MR. NOW, I THINK YOU SIGNED UP FOR THE REGULAR MEETING.
WE'RE GETTING READY TO START THE REGULAR MEETING, BUT WE'RE ENDING, WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR SPECIAL MEETING RIGHT NOW.
IS THERE A MOTION THAT IS FLOYD EMORY.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE, UH, CONTRACT, UH, FOR ALL THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY BAKER TILLY, UH, WHICH INCLUDES UTILIZING THEIR SERVICES TO FIND ADDITIONAL CANDIDATES FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION AND TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT CONTRACT.
THE, AND I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF A, THE G SAYS, CONSIDER REQUIRING THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM TO SCREEN AND IDENTIFY CANDIDATES FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
SO ARE YOU ADDING, ARE YOU ALTERING YOUR MOTION OR IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR ACTION? MY MOTION IS, UH, THAT IS TASK TWO, PHASE ONE.
BUT I'M ADDING TO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UTILIZE THOSE SERVICES THAT ARE NECESSARY, WHICH INCLUDES FAST AND FAST.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WEB BASED SURVEY.
IS THERE A SECOND RULE? SECOND PROMOTION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? UM, CAN YOU MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S, MIKE IS, I CAN HEAR A TV.
SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IF THERE'S ART, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE I DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE.
I WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER RUELAS MADE THE SECOND AND COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY MADE THE MOTION.
SO IF, IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION MOVED TO THE REGULAR MEETING AND COME BACK TO THE SPECIAL MEETING.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO RECESSING AND COMING BACK AND GOING TO THE REGULAR MEETING.
I'M NOT HEARING ANY, SO WE WILL RECESS AND GO TO THE REGULAR MEETING.
UM, AND GO BACK TO THE SPECIAL MEETING.
UH, THE TIME IS NOW EIGHT 37 WE WILL NOW RECONVENE.
RECONVENE THE SPECIAL MEETING.
[(c) Discuss the proposed ordinance amending the city personnel policy by establishing a notification process for employment claims against City Council’s appointed officials, establishing a time limit for reporting potential paycheck errors for city employees, and requiring notification to the human resources department for certain employee absences.]
UH, I BELIEVE WE LEFT OFF AT ITEM TWO C DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY PERSONNEL POLICY BY ESTABLISHING AND NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR EMPLOYMENT CLAIMS AGAINST CITY COUNCILS, APPOINTED OFFICIALS ESTABLISHING A TIME LIMIT FOR REPORTING POTENTIAL PAYCHECK AREAS FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AND REQUIRING NOTIFICATION TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE DEPARTMENT FOR CERTAIN EMPLOYEE ABSENCES.UH, JAMES SANDS, ANGELO IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
UH, SO THIS, UM, IF YOU'LL RECALL, UH, THE SIMILAR ITEM WAS PRESENTED
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TO YOU ALL AT THE SPECIAL MEETING ON APRIL 6TH, UM, REGARDING SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE PERSONNEL POLICY, UH, SOME OF WHICH WERE, UM, BROUGHT UP BY STAFF AND SOME OF WHICH WERE REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.UM, THIS IS JUST THE MOST CURRENT DRAFT OF THE ITEM BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK AND, UM, CERTAIN OTHER, UH, RESEARCH AND FOLLOW UP, UH, BY, UH, STAFF, UH, MOSTLY LEGAL AND HR.
SO REGARDING, UM, A NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR, UH, EMPLOYMENT CLAIMS AGAINST THE APPOINTED OFFICIALS, MEANING THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY SECRETARY, UH, THIS, UH, REMEMBER, REMEMBERS IN REGARD TO BOTH, UM, CLAIMS OF DISCRIMINATION OR HARASSMENT THAT THE PERSONNEL POLICY HAS DESIGNATED CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS TO, UH, TAKE REPORTS, UM, AS WELL AS THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS, UM, FROM ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE, UM, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY SECRETARY AS WELL.
AND SO IN THE LAST DRAFT, UH, THAT STAFF PRESENTED TO YOU ALL, UM, THE COUNCIL NEEDED TO BE NOTIFIED OF, UH, SUCH EMPLOYMENT ACT, UH, EMPLOYMENT CLAIMS, UH, BY THE NEXT REGULARLY POSTED MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR WHICH LEGAL NOTICE CAN BE PROVIDED OVER, UM, UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, UH, BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK THAT'S NOW BEEN AMENDED SO THAT, UH, THAT REQUIREMENT'S STILL STANDS.
HOWEVER, NOW, UM, IF SOMEONE TAKES A REPORT OF EITHER DISCRIMINATION OR HARASSMENT BY, UM, AN APPOINTED OFFICIAL OR, UM, A GRIEVANCE FROM AN ACTION OF AN APPOINTED OFFICIAL, THEY NOW HAVE TO NOTIFY THE MAYOR IN WRITING WITHIN 24 HOURS OF EITHER TAKING THAT REPORT OR, UM, LEARNING OF THAT CLAIM.
AND, UM, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER AS FAR AS DISCRIMINATION, HARASSMENT IS CONCERNED, IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE PERSON THAT THE PERSONNEL POLICY, UM, DESIGNATES TO TAKE A REPORT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, THE EMPLOYEES, DIRECT SUPERVISOR, THE MAYOR, THE CITY MANAGER, THE HR DIRECTOR.
UM, AND THEN IN THE EVENT OF A GRIEVANCE, UM, THE, THIS CHANGE OF THE PERSONNEL POLICY WOULD, UH, HAVE IT BE INCUMBENT ON THE APPOINTED OFFICIAL THEMSELVES TO REPORT IT TO COUNCIL, UH, BY THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN OF COURSE NOW BY THE MAYOR, UH, TO THE MAYOR, UH, WITHIN 24 HOURS OF, UH, LEARNING OF THE GRIEVANCE.
UM, SO THAT'S HOW THAT'S BEEN AMENDED.
UM, AS FAR AS THE REPORTING OF PAYCHECK ERRORS IS CONCERNED, UM, THE LAST DRAFT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL, UM, STAFF PUT A TIME LIMIT OF A YEAR TO REPORT A, UH, ALLEGED ERROR ON A PAYCHECK.
UM, OR ELSE THEIR CLAIM IS WAIVED.
THAT'S BEEN SLIGHTLY AMENDED BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK.
UM, I BELIEVE YOU ALL SAID, UM, OR A FEW OF YOU SAID THAT, UH, A YEAR MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO LONG.
SO WE'VE AMENDED IT SO THAT, UM, THE TIME LIMIT IS NOW SIX MONTHS, UH, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, UH, THERE'S A ILLEGAL KIND OF STATUTORY LIMITATION THAT, UM, AN EMPLOYEE CAN'T WAIVE OR LIMIT THEMSELVES TO SIX MONTHS.
THEN THAT EXCEPTION IS CARVED OUT IN THE LATEST DRAFT OF THE, UH, THE PERSONNEL AMENDMENT.
NOW THE THIRD THING IS, UM, A NEW ITEM THAT'S BEING BROUGHT TO YOU TONIGHT THAT IS, UM, AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEAVE POLICY.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S CHAPTER EIGHT OF THE PERSONNEL POLICY REGARDING THE, UH, THE FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT THAT'S BEEN AMENDED TO STATE THAT, UM, FOR ANY UNFORESEEN ABSENCES THAT MIGHT FALL WITHIN THE A FMLA OR, OR AN FMLA QUALIFYING EVENT, UM, AN EMPLOYEE WOULD NOW HAVE TO, UM, REPORTS, UM, REPORT THAT, THAT ABSENCE TO HR, UM, WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER BEING OUT ON SICK LEAVE FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS OR MORE.
AND THEN FOR ANY UNREPORTED ABSENCE AND THE WAY, THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PERSONNEL POLICY, IT'S
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AS SOON AS PRACTICAL SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO REPORT IT AS SOON AS PRACTICABLE.SO, UM, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED PUTTING A, A TIME CERTAIN ON THAT.
SO IF THEY'RE ABSENT FOR MORE THAN THREE DAYS ON SICK LEAVE WITHIN UNFORESEEN FMLA QUALIFYING EVENT OF POTENTIALLY, UH, LIKE I SAID, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REPORT IT WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER BEING ABSENT FOR THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND THEN, UH, THE ONLY OTHER AMENDMENT IS, UM, IF AN EMPLOYEE IS OUT FOR THREE OR MORE CONSECUTIVE DAYS, THEN THAT EMPLOYEE'S DIRECT SUPERVISOR WOULD HAVE TO REPORT THAT TO THE HR DIRECTOR AS WELL.
SO MOST OF THE CHANGES ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL ALREADY, BUT, UM, AGAIN, THE THINGS WE'VE ADDED ARE NOW THAT NOW FOR CERTAIN EMPLOYMENT ACTIONS OR START, SORRY, CERTAIN EMPLOYMENT CLAIMS, UH, REGARDING APPOINTED OFFICIALS, THE MAYOR NOW HAS TO BE NOTIFIED WITHIN 24 HOURS OF, UH, THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR REPORTING ITS LEARNING OF THAT CLAIM.
UM, INSTEAD OF A YEAR, THE TIME LIMIT FOR REPORTING AN ERROR ON A PAYCHECK IS SIX MONTHS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, THE LEAVE POLICY HAS BEEN AMENDED, UM, FOR CERTAIN ABSENCES OF THREE DAYS OR MORE.
SO NOW, UM, THEY HAVE TO REPORT IT TO HR OR, UM, AS I SAID, THE EMPLOYEE SUPERVISOR.
UM, DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING TONIGHT OR IS THIS GOING TO GO ON A REGULAR AGENDA? THIS WILL BE PLACED FOR A M THIS IS A TWO READING ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE PLACED ON A, UH, FUTURE REGULAR MEETING AGENDA.
UH, THIS WAS JUST KIND OF, UM, TAKING YOUR FEEDBACK FROM THAT APRIL SIX, UH, SPECIAL MEETING AND PRESENTING IT BACK TO YOU.
AND IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR FURTHER FEEDBACK, UM, I BELIEVE, UH, MARTIN RUSSELL'S HERE AS WELL WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JAMES OR MARTIN? I HAVE ONE FOR MARTIN.
I KNOW MART, WE MENTIONED ABOUT THE HARASSMENT AWARENESS COURSES THAT ARE MOSTLY THROUGH OUT MOST ORGANIZATIONS.
WERE YOU ABLE TO CHECK INTO THAT? YES, MATTER OF FACT, UM, I'VE ALSO, UH, CHECKED WITH THE TEXAS, TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE.
UM, THEY ARE PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR ME ON THAT.
SO THAT TRAINING WILL BE COMING DOWN THE ROAD, UM, IN REFERENCE TO HARASSMENT.
AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS, IS ON THE THIRD DAY, ARE THEY REQUIRED TO HAVE DOCUMENTATIONS BEFORE OR AFTER THE, OKAY.
WE WILL SEND DOCUMENTATION TO THE EMPLOYEE AND THEN THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE, UH, THEIR PHYSICIAN OR PRACTITIONER TO SIGN THAT INFORMATION AND THAT WILL SERVE AS DOCUMENTATION BACK TO HR TO, UH, CHECK TO SEE IF IT IS A QUALIFYING FMLA ABSENCE.
SO WOULD THAT BE AFTER THE THIRD DAY OF ABSENCE? YES, AFTER THIRD CONSECUTIVE DAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, THIS COMES FROM AN EMORY, UH, ON THE, UH, UH, CLAIMS AGAINST CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED OFFICIALS.
UH, WHAT WAS IT HAD TO BE REPORTED TO THE MAYOR WITHIN 24 HOURS? IS THAT WHAT, OH, OKAY.
WELL, MY QUESTION IS, MY QUESTION IS, AT WHAT POINT IN TIME ARE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS MADE AWARE OF THE, UH, UH, THE ACTION BEING TAKEN? SURE.
UM, THE WAY THE DRAFT CURRENTLY READS, THE ONE THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT, UM, LAST MONTH WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED, THE FULL COUNCIL NEEDED TO BE NOTIFIED BY THE NEXT, UH, PROPERLY CALLED MEETING.
SO THE NEXT TIME, UM, THE NEXT MEETING FOR WHICH LEGAL NOTICE CAN BE PROPERLY POSTED.
SO IT WOULD BE AT THE NEXT LEGALLY POSTED CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
HOWEVER, UM, AS I WAS EXPLAINING BEFORE, THE NEW REQUIREMENT IN THIS DRAFT WOULD BE, UH, THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED IN WRITING WITHIN FOUR HOURS OF RECEIVING THE REPORT FOR THE CLAIM.
AND WHEN WOULD THIS, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE NOTIFIED.
WHAT IS THE NEXT CALL? THE COUNCIL MEETING? I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN, WHEN DOES THE ADDITIONAL, THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, BE MADE AWARE OF? UH, THIS TYPE OF A CLAIM?
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YEAH, RIGHT.IT WOULD BE AT THE NEXT REGULARLY POSTED COUNCIL MEETING.
AND JUST FOR CLARITY, AND I KIND OF AGREE WITH YOU, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, EMORY, SO YOU SAY IF A CLAIM IS AGAINST ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? UH, YES AND RIGHT.
UM, THE, THE FULL COUNCIL WOULD BE NOTIFIED AT THE NEXT PROPERLY CALLED COUNCIL MEETING.
AND THE REASON IS THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UM, AS TO NOT PROMOTE ANY, UM, DISCUSSION OR INFORMATION BEING SHARED OUTSIDE THE CONFINES OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE FULL COUNCIL CONVENED IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION.
UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CONCERN LAST TIME WAS NOT LET TOO MUCH TIME PASS BEFORE, UM, BEFORE SOMEBODY, UM, ONE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WAS NOTIFIED.
SO WHAT I WAS HEARING LAST TIME WAS THAT, UH, THE MAYOR WAS KIND OF DESIGNATED TO RECEIVE THAT REPORT, UM, IN THE SHORT TERM.
SO THAT'S WHY, UM, YOU KNOW, ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WE MADE IT KIND OF A 24 HOUR TURNAROUND.
BUT BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL COULD BE NOTIFIED AT A PROPERLY POSTED MEETING.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE, BUT IF I HAVE A COMPLAINT AS A COUNCIL PERSON, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO WAIT ANOTHER TWO OR THREE WEEKS BECAUSE THAT WILL ALLOW OPPORTUNITY FOR RUMORS TO START AND PEOPLE TO START THINKING.
AH, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO KNOW PRIOR TO THAT.
AND IF THE INFORMATION GOES TO THE MAYOR THEN, UM, HOPEFULLY THIS IS MAYOR FOR JOE.
UM, JAMES, I'M SORRY JAMES, WOULD WE, COULD WE PUT IN THERE, IF THE CLAIM IS AGAINST AN ACTUAL COUNCIL MEMBER, CAN THE MAYOR AND THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BE NOTIFIED? THAT'S STILL NOT QUORUM.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE.
I THOUGHT THIS, EXCUSE ME, THIS WAS KIND OF MY MEMORY.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS, UH, FOR CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY COUNCIL'S APPOINTED OFFICIALS.
NOT COUNCIL, BUT THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS STERLING JUST POST.
AND, AND THESE CHANGES, UM, THESE PROPOSED CHANGES BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
UM, AT LEAST WITH RESPECT TO, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S CHAPTERS FOUR AND 13 OF THE PERSONNEL POLICIES THAT DEALS WITH THOSE EMPLOYMENT CLAIMS. THE ONLY CHANGES PROPOSED ARE WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE APPOINTED OFFICIALS AS COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY SAID.
SO IT WOULD ONLY BE THOSE THREE INDIVIDUALS.
UM, IF THERE WAS A, A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, A COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, THEN I BELIEVE WHATEVER PROCESS WAS IN PLACE BEFORE THESE CHANGES WERE IMPLEMENTED WOULD STILL STAND WITH, IT WOULD STILL BE FOLLOWED IF I MADE THIS EASY CHOICE.
THERE IS NOT CURRENTLY A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT RELATE TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE COUNCIL COULD, COULD CERTAINLY ADOPT AN ORDINANCE THAT DICTATES HOW YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THOSE TYPES OF COMPLAINTS IN THE FUTURE.
BUT AT THIS POINT THERE IS NOT AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION IN PLACE THAT REGULATES THE CONDUCT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY.
YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAD ANYTHING IN PLACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT PROACTIVE AND YEAH, IT'S OKAY.
I GUESS, I MEAN WE CAN, THEY CAN WORK ON THAT.
BUT THIS WOULD NOT ADDRESS THAT QUESTION YOU ASKED BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY UNDERSTAND THIS QUESTION, RIGHT? YEAH, I'M FINE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO REQUEST SO THAT WE WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I'M AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL.
I MEAN SPLIT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
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I THINK I HEARD COUNSELOR, BUT IF I MADE THIS WOULD BE JOYCE.THE CHARTER DOES ALLOW ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO BRING FORWARD AN ORDINANCE IN THE FORMS THAT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AN ORDINANCE TO THAT FACT.
BUT I LIKE TO REQUEST AN THIS, THIS WAS CONSTANTLY ON EVERY QUESTION FOR EACH CHOICE.
THERE'S NOTHING IN ANY STATUTE THAT, UH, GIVE SOME RELIEF TO A, AN EMPLOYEE, UH, WHO'S MAKING A CLAIM AGAINST AN ELECTED OFFICIAL SUSIE CHOICE.
IF THERE WERE A CLAIM THAT CITY WOULD, THE CITY STAFF ADMINISTRATION WOULD INVESTIGATE, OF COURSE, ANY CLAIM PURSUANT TO STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CITY'S ORDINANCES THAT WOULD DICTATE HOW TO ADDRESS, LET'S SAY IF A CLAIM IS SUSTAINED AGAINST THE COUNCIL MEMBER, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING IN PLACE THAT WOULD REALLY DICTATE HOW THE CITY OR THE GOVERNING BODY WOULD ADDRESS THAT SUSTAINED CLAIM AGAINST ANOTHER MEMBER.
NOW THERE'S OF COURSE THE STATE ETHICS COMMISSION.
THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES THAT MIGHT ADDRESS VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE INTERACTION, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S WITH THE CITY, WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY'S ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT.
WELL, UH, AGAIN, FLIGHT EMORY AND, UH, I UM, LIKE TO SEE, UM, MAYBE THE STAFF PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER WHERE WE CAN, UH, UH, SHOW THAT, UH, THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE RAISED AGAINST A, UH HUH.
SO YOU, JOYCE, UH, IF YOU COULD WORK ON THAT.
UM, AND ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CURRENT ISSUE FOR JAMES? MAN, THIS IS ANTHONY.
WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT ONCE YOU'RE NOTIFIED, YOU KNOW, AT YOUR DISCRETION, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF IT'S PRETTY, YOU KNOW, SEVERE, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY MOVE IT FASTER THAN THE, THAN THE TWO WEEKS.
SO IT REALLY DOES ALLOW FOR THE MAYOR TO MOVE QUICKLY ONCE SHE GETS THE INFORMATION.
WE WILL HAVE A MEETING IMMEDIATELY IN 72 HOURS OR AFTER THE 72 HOURS.
THAT MAY BE, I KNOW JOYCE MIGHT SAY SOMETHING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JAMES? NO PROBLEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTION FOR JAMES? OKAY,
[(d) Discuss the continuation of remote meetings as allowed by the governor and the status of operations.]
WELL, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.D, DISCUSS THE CONTINUATION OF REMOTE MEETINGS AS ALLOWED BY THE GOVERNOR AND THE STATUS OF OPERATIONS.
MAYOR, WELL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU RECALL, THE RECENT SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT, WE MEET WITH THE MAYOR STARTED DOING THIS, UH, EVERY TWO WEEKS JUST TO UPDATE HER IN REGARD TO THE, UH, STATUS OPERATIONS OF THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND, AND RELATED ITEMS. WE COVERED SEVERAL OF THOSE EARLIER, WHICH HAD TO DO WITH THE COVERT PANDEMIC.
AND, UH, THEN DURING OUR DISCUSSION ON THIS PAST FRIDAY, UH, THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IN REGARD TO REMOTE MEANS AND WHAT WE'D WANT TO POTENTIALLY DO AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT WITH YOU, THE COUNCIL.
AND SO, UH, I'LL LEAVE IT THERE FOR THE MAYOR AND, UH, INHERIT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE HIM.
SO BASICALLY I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL QUESTIONS OR FROM DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS IN REFERENCE TO THE REMOTE MEETINGS.
UM, I DID CHECK WITH IE, JOYCE, THE REMOTE MEETINGS ARE STILL IN PLACE UNTIL THE GOVERNOR REMOVES HIS DECLARATION.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE REMOTE MEETINGS.
UM, AS LONG AS WE PASS, WE CAN JUST OUT OF MAKING SURE ALL OUR FAMILIES AS WELL AS OURSELVES ARE PROTECTED.
UM, SO, SO, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE, UH, BECAUSE OF COURSE THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WILL MAKE A DECISION ON THIS.
SO, UM, THE, IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION OR ANY COMMENTS? MIRA CAN AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
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I AGREE AS WELL.I JUST THINK THIS IS THE SAFEST OPTION THAT WE HAVE WITH CONTINUING TO MOVE THE BUSINESS FORWARD AS WELL AS BEING SAFE AND ABIDING BY THE SOCIAL DISTANCE.
SO I'M IN FAVOR TO CONTINUE WITH THE ZOOM AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
CONTINUE ON WITH THE JUNE MEETING APPROACH.
AND THIS WAS COUNCILMAN EMORY.
UM, BILL WAS, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKS LIKE WE'RE MOSTLY IN AGREEMENT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD UNTIL THERE'S ANY OTHER DIRECTION FROM THE GOVERNOR.
[(e) Discuss the redevelopment incentive policy.]
OKAY.THE NEXT ITEM IS HE DISCUSSED THE REDEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE POLICY.
JOE ASH, ARE YOU THERE?
I KNOW IT'S HAD A LONG DISCUSSION.
FORTUNATELY I HAVE NOTHING AT ALL.
THERE'S A CONTROVERSY IN MY COMMENTS.
THE LAST TIME WE GOT TOGETHER IN APRIL, WE TALKED ABOUT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, MINIMUM ARTIFICIAL STANDARDS.
COUNCIL EXPRESSED A NUMBER OF CONCERNS OVER THE PUBLIC USE OF ASSISTANCE, UH, INCENTIVES FOR UM, SUCH AS REPAIR OF ROOVES OR OTHER THINGS THAT NEED, UM, GENERAL MAINTENANCE REQUIRED MAINTENANCE FOR UPKEEP OF A STRUCTURE.
WE WANTED TO AT THAT TIME MADE SURE COUNCIL WAS AWARE THAT THAT NONE, NOTHING AND WHAT WE APPROVED LAST TIME, LIMITED COUNCILS HAVE BUILT A BASIC STANDARD FOR WHICH WE WOULD CONSIDER AND WE RECOGNIZE THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE A NUMBER OF OTHER ELEMENTS INTO A INCENTIVE POLICY.
AND SO MOVING FORWARD, WE WENT TO UH, THE UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND THEIR REQUEST IS MADE TO BRING THIS TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.
SO TONIGHT WHAT I WANT TO DO IS GO THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE BASICS.
SO MY GOALS FOR THE SEASONING ARTISTS STABLISH A LIST OF POINTS TO INCLUDE IN THE FORMAL REDEVELOPMENT POLICY FOR, FOR FUTURE COUNCIL ACTION.
THE POLICY POINTS ARE INCLUDE A LIST OF ELIGIBLE PROJECT EXPENSES, A LIST OF INELIGIBLE PROJECT EXPENSES AND SOME APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS SO THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR INCENTIVE, WHAT THEY SHOULD BE BRINGING FORWARD.
AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE LATER ON IN MY PRESENTATION.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT'S COME UP IN SOME OF MY DISCUSSIONS ARE HOW MUCH OF AN INCENTIVE SHOULD WE BE OFFERING? WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT WHEN WE LOOK AT A BUILDING? AND SO I WANTED TO WALK THROUGH SOME BASICS.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A BUILDING, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS THAT IMPACT A VALUATION FOR A STRUCTURE AND TOBACCO FOR A SECOND.
WHAT ARE THE REASONS THAT WE'RE EVEN LOOKING AT INCENTIVES? AND THE BEST WAY TO PUT IN THE COMMON PARLANCE IS IF YOU BOUGHT A HOME AND YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR HOME, AND YOU ASKED THE BASIC QUESTION, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF I MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, CAN I SELL THE HOME FOR WHAT I HAVE IN IT? AND THAT'S IN, IN, IN BASIC WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO IN THE, IN THE REAL ESTATE WORLD, THEY'RE LOOKING AT A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS FOR THAT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT MARKETING COMPETITIVE ANALYSIS FOR WHERE DO THEY PLACE THEIR MONEY BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THEIR HOME.
THEY CAN PUT THEIR MONEY INTO OTHER LOCATIONS.
THEY'RE TAKING A LOOK AT WHERE THAT BUILDING THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS AD IS LOCATED IN A SITE ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S AROUND IT AND THE POLITICAL AND LEGAL ANALYSIS THAT GOES WITH THAT EFFORT AS WELL.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, THE MARKET COMES IN AND SAYS, OKAY, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED TO PUT INTO THIS.
AND SO THEY TAKE A LOOK AT A PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS AND IF IT WAS A STANDALONE ENTERPRISE, THEY SAY, HERE'S OUR OPERATING REVENUES, HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO GET OFF OF THE, THE, THE, WHATEVER WE'RE ENGAGED IN.
HERE ARE THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OPERATING, UH, OTTAWA OPERATING REVENUES.
SO HERE'S THE CASHFLOW AVAILABLE TO SERVICE DEBT.
AND THEN WHEN YOU SELECT THAT OUT OF THAT, HERE'S OUR PRETAX CASH FLOW TO SERVICE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE INVESTING.
IF WE TAKE THAT PRETEXT CASHFLOW AND WE LOOK AT THAT BY, BY OUR RETURN REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S THE EQUITY THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO PUT INTO THAT PROJECT AND ACHIEVE OUR RETURN REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHEN THEY LOOK AT THAT, THE EQUITY THAT THEY COULD PUT INTO IT, THE EQUITY REQUIRED
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VERSUS THE EQUITY ATTRACTED YOU, TAKE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, TAKE IT, THE MARKETING FUNDING REQUIREMENTS, A LOAN DEVALUE OR A DEBT COVERAGE RATIO, AND THAT DETERMINES THE AMOUNT OF DEBT, HOW MUCH YOU CAN BORROW AGAINST THAT.SO THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS MINUS HOW MUCH YOU CAN BORROW AGAINST IT GETS TO THE EQUITY REQUIRED.
SO YOU TAKE THE EQUITY THAT'S ATTRACTED HOW MUCH WE CAN AFFORD TO INVEST IN THIS BASED OFF OUR FINANCIAL FORECAST AND HOW MUCH IS REQUIRED.
AND THERE'S EITHER A SURPLUS OR A GAP IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A GAP.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE POTENTIAL BENEFIT OF OF, UH, INCENTIVES CAN TAKE PLACE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT IT AS A COMMUNITY, THERE'S A LIST OF BENEFITS THAT WE MIGHT LOOK AT AND WE MIGHT LOOK AT, I'M SORRY, GO BACK.
WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THERE'S A LIST OF DIRECT AND INDIRECT BENEFITS THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER AND DIRECT BENEFITS COULD BE THE SALES TAXES, THE PROPERTY TAXES, THE NUMBER OF JOBS THERE.
THEY COULD BE THAT THAT A COMMUNITY ICON.
IT MAY FILL A NEED THAT WE WANT AS A COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE INDIRECT BENEFITS THAT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO, THEY'RE HARD TO DEMONSTRATE SUCH AS A COMMUNITY FEEL A PRIDE THAT IT MIGHT GET INTO.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PARK, A PARK DOESN'T HAVE ANY NECESSARILY DIRECT BENEFITS FROM A COST STANDPOINT WITH EXCEPTION OF FEES, BUT YET THERE ARE A LOT OF INDIRECT BENEFITS THAT YOU GET FROM THE COMMUNITY.
SO WHEN WE VALUE THE THE FROM THE CITY SIDE AND WE SAY, OKAY, HERE'S HOW IT'S HOW MUCH THE COMPANY SAYS OR THE BUSINESS ENTERPRISE SAYS THEY NEED FROM A GAP STANDPOINT, THEN WE AS A COMMUNITY COME BACK AND SAY, WHAT IS OUR RETURN? OUR INVESTED TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO LOOK AT.
NEXT SLIDE, ANOTHER WAY IN WHAT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT TEXAS PARKWAY, THERE'S A LOT OF INCOME PROPERTIES AND THOSE ARE WHERE SOMEONE HAS A MULTI TENANT FACILITY, WHETHER IT'S UM, WHERE THE KING DOLLAR CENTER IS THAT WE'RE PRESENT LOOKING AT WHERE THE MOVIE THEATER IS AT.
THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LOCATE.
AND SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY TAKE THE NET OPERATING INCOME AND THAT'S THE, THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED OUTSIDE.
ANY EXPENSES FOR TAXES, ANY INVESTMENT THAT GOES BACK INTO MAINTENANCE, ANYTHING THAT GOES BACK INTO, UM, COMMON AREA ASSESSMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT NET OPERATING INCOME IS WHAT THEY CAN USE TO SERVICE THEIR INVESTMENT.
AND THEN THE CAPITALIZATION RATE IS A RATE OF RETURN THAT THE MARKET SAYS IS, IS WORTHY FOR THAT INVESTMENT.
AND THAT'S GOING TO VARY DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF A TENANT.
AND I'M THINKING OF A MULTITENANT BUILDING LIKE I'VE DESCRIBED THAT HAS DIFFERENT TYPES OF TENANTS.
A NATIONAL CREDIT TENANT, LIKE A SUBWAY FOR EXAMPLE, OR UM, A NAME BRAND THAT YOU MIGHT THINK OF A GROCERY STORE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOWER CAP RATE THAN A, A LOCAL BUSINESS THAT DOES NOT HAVE A TRACK RECORD.
WHEN YOU TAKE THAT CAP RATE AND YOU DIVIDE THAT, SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DIVIDE A, UH, A, A DECIMAL INTO A, UM, A LARGER NUMBER, THEN IT GIVES YOU A HIGHER VALUE.
THAT'S HOW THEY DETERMINE THE VALUE OF HOW MUCH WE'RE WILLING TO PAY.
BECAUSE BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING, HOW MUCH IS THIS STREAM OF REVENUE WORTH TO ME IN FROM A RATE OF RETURN STANDPOINT? HOW MUCH CAN I PAY FOR IT? AND CAP RATES ARE NOT ABSOLUTES.
AND SO YOU CAN, TWO PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT IT AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DEGREE, BUT THERE'LL BE RELATIVELY CLOSE.
THE REASON I WENT THROUGH THESE IS TO SAY, TO GO THROUGH AN EXAMPLE.
TO SAVE, WE STARTED LOOKING AT, UM, A COMPARISON BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT ON HIGHWAY SIX.
WHY DON'T WE SEE SOME OF THAT INVESTMENT GOING ON OVER HERE.
AND I WANTED TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF THAT.
NOT FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST TO GIVE A FRAME OF REFERENCE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE POLICY POINTS.
IT'S A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE MIGHT CONSIDER THINGS GOING FORWARD.
AND SO FOR THAT ASSUMPTION, I'M GOING TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP FOR THE COMPARISON, USE A MULTITENANT BUILDING THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR LEASE.
THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO HAVE A MARKET RATE OF RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT SAYS THE CAP RATES ARE GONNA VARY DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF TENANT AND THE REAL RATES ARE AT MARKET FOR WHAT WE SEE GOING ON IN THE MARKETPLACE.
AND IF YOU GO TO LIKE COSTAR OR ANY NUMBER OF THE REAL ESTATE SERVICES, THEY WILL, THEY'LL SHOW YOU THE RENTS RANGE ACROSS AN AREA AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
AND WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME THAT IT'S THAT THAT'S NOI, THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THAT IS A NET OPERATING INCOME, A TRIPLE NET LEASE.
AND THAT THE STATED RENTS ARE AN ANNUAL PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND YOU SAY RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE OBSERVING IN THE MARKETPLACE IS ON TEXAS PARKWAY.
RENTAL RATES VARY FOR MULTITENANT BUILDINGS BETWEEN NINE AND $13 A SQUARE FOOT ON HIGHWAY SIX RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, AND, AND I NEED TO BACK UP FOR A SECOND, THIS IS PRE PANDEMIC.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER PANDEMIC, BUT FOR PURPOSES OF ARGUMENT PRIOR, DENNIS, THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE SEEING ON HIGHWAY SIX
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A PROPERTY WAS LOOKING FOR 28 TO $32 A SQUARE FOOT.LET'S SAY IT'S THE SAME 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THE COSTS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU CAN GET IN RENT, THE COST FOR CONSTRUCTION ARE GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME FOR THE BASIC SAME TYPE OF PROPERTY.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN 110 TO $125 PER SQUARE FOOT AND THAT'S SHELL COST.
THAT'S THE COST OF BUILDING THE BUILDING AND THEN PROVIDING THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS ON AN ON AN AVERAGE BASIS, THE CAP RATE IS GOING TO CHANGE A LOT AND PRIMARILY BECAUSE YOU SEE A LOT MORE OF NATIONAL CREDIT TENANTS.
THE WATER BURGERS, UH, FOR UH, A, UH, IS A FAST FOOD TYPE IS GOING TO BE A FIVE TO 7% CAP RATE FOR LA.
THE, THE SMALLER STORES, THE MOM AND POPS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A NINE TO 10% CAP RATE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING BETWEEN THE TWO AREAS.
I NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A MIX AND IT SHOULD BE THAT THAT NOTE APPLIES TO BOTH.
THERE'S STILL A MIX OF BOTH OF THOSE ACROSS BOTH AREAS, BUT WE SEE MORE NATIONAL CREDIT TENANTS ON HIGHWAY SIX THAN WE DO ON TEXAS PARKWAY.
SO I'M GOING RELATIVELY FAST AND I WANT TO DO THIS AS HIGH LEVEL.
WE COULD TALK ABOUT LOVE THESE DETAILS FOR A LONG TIME, BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHERE THIS ACTUALLY FILLS OUT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THAT SAME 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON A NINE TO 10% CAP RATE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, UH, AT NINE TO $13 PER SQUARE FOOT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE BETWEEN 90,000 TO $150,000 IN ANNUAL INCOME, YOU'RE GONNA SEE DEVELOPMENT COSTS ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME BETWEEN THE MILLION ONE AND A MILLION A QUARTER FOR THE TWO.
SO THE VALUE OF THE INCOME PROPERTY BASED ON THE CAP RATES, THE DIFFERENT, IT VARIES DIFFERENTLY.
SO THIS IS WHY YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE OF INVESTMENT BECAUSE WHAT THE MARKET'S TELLING US, IT SAYS THAT ON TEXAS PARKWAY, IF YOU'RE AT THE LOWER END OF THAT SPECTRUM, THAT BUILDING IS ONLY WORTH 900,000 TO A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO IT'S WORTH LESS THAN A, WHAT IT COSTS TO BUILD NEW, AND THEN IT'S WORTH MUCH MORE FOUR TO $5 MILLION ON, ON HIGHWAY SIX.
SO THAT'S WHY A LOT OF TIMES THE CAPITAL, THE PEOPLE'S INVESTMENT IS MIGRATING TOWARD THAT AREA BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING A BETTER RETURN ON INVESTMENT, GREATER THAN THE VALUE IT COSTS TO BUILD.
THESE EXAMPLES ARE HIGH LEVEL.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A FRAME OF REFERENCE AND NOT EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE TRUE.
AND THE REASON IS IF YOU LOOK AT A DISCOUNT TIRE, THAT'S A SPECIAL USE.
IT'S NOT A MULTITENANT BUILDING.
AND THEY CAN, IF THEY'RE A GOOD CREDIT, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE THE MONEY WORK.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO LEASE SPACE, IT'S WHERE IT BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT.
AND IF YOU BUY A BUILDING, IT MEANS THAT, HEY, I MAY BUY A BUILDING A TIP, THIS EXAMPLE FOR 900 TO A THOUSAND TO A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HEADROOM TO MAKE A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT COSTS INTO IT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE INCENTIVES COME INTO PLAY.
SO I GAVE THAT EXAMPLE OR THOSE EXAMPLES TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE MATHEMATICS IN HIGH LEVEL OF WHY WE'RE SEEING A NEED TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES AND ALSO AS A MEANS BY WHICH I CAN GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF WHEN YOU ASKED BEFORE, HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT THE VALUE OF INCENTIVES SHOULD BE.
WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT AND AND AND LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS AND SAY, HEY, BASED ON THESE NUMBERS, THIS IS HOW WE MIGHT LOOK AT THE, THE GAP THAT THEY PROVIDE WITHIN CERTAIN RANGE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR RETURN REQUIREMENTS ARE, BUT WE CAN KIND OF ESTIMATE WHAT THE MARKET WOULD BE.
SO COMING AND TAKING ALL THAT CONCEPT BACK IS HOW WE EVALUATE IT.
THERE'S SOME BASIC POLICY POINTS THAT WE WANTED TO COME BACK TO AND SAY THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THAT YOU ARE.
WHAT WE HEARD WAS, WHAT I HEARD WAS, AND PLEASE I'M LOOKING FOR Y'ALLS INPUT, IS TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A POLICY THAT SAYS HERE ARE THE TYPE OF EXPENSES THAT WE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD THINK WOULD QUALIFY FOR ELIGIBLE INCENTIVES, A NEW FACADE MATERIAL CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY, NOT JUST PAYING THE EXTERIOR PARKING LIGHTING, THINGS THAT ADDS TO THE SECURITY OF THE AREA LANDSCAPE UPDATES THAT ACCRUES TO THE APPEARANCE OF THE STRUCTURE, THE SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS THAT GO BEYOND PARKING LOT LIGHTING.
MAYBE IT'S CAMERAS, MAYBE IT'S PEOPLE, A SECURITY, OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT HELP THAT PROVIDES A SENSE OF SAFETY AND THAT WOULD BE ANYWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S NOT TWO D TO D TO MINIMIZE ANYTHING ON TEXAS PARKWAY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I'VE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS OVER TIME THAT NEW SIGNAGE THAT'S CONSISTENT, THAT IS UP TO DATE IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
BUT THE SAME TOKEN, WHAT I HEARD WAS THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LIST OF INELIGIBLE EXPENSES REQUIRED OR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
NOW MONEY IS FUNGIBLE AND SO WE CAN SAY, HEY, THE DEVELOPER, YOUR MONEY GOES TOWARDS FIXING THESE ITEMS THAT ARE HERE.
IF THERE'S A GAP BEYOND THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO REPAIR FOR THE STANDARD UPKEEP, THAT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THE MONEY IN, BUT THESE ELEMENTS THAT THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT AS THINGS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER, AND AGAIN, FACADE PAINTING AS AS DESCRIBED ABOVE, WOULD NOT BE AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE
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AND LESS, IT WAS A PART OF THE NEW FACADE ITSELF.APPLICANTS SHOULD ALSO PROVIDE ELEVATIONS BECAUSE COUNCIL IS LOOKING TO SAY, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET WHEN WE'RE DONE AND WHEN YOU COME, WHEN YOU FINISH YOUR PROJECT, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.
HERE'S OUR CHECKLIST TO ENSURE THAT WE RECEIVE THE BENEFIT OF OUR BARGAIN APPLICATIONS.
JUST AS THEY PRESENTLY DO NOW WOULD GO HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF, WOULD WORK WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS AND FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE PROVISO AS WE DO ON TAX ABATEMENTS AND OTHERS THAT IF A PROJECT NEEDS TO GO FROM A TIMELINE PERSPECTIVE THAT COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION FOR THE FULL COUNCIL TO BE HEARD OR IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTED TO TAKE IT IN THAT WAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY UP TO Y'ALL.
SO WITH THAT, UM, IN ABOUT AS FAST AS I CAN TALK, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DISCUSSION, I WANT TO SEE IF WE'RE ON THE MARK.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGAIN IS TO GIVE SOME, HIT SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS FOR THE POLICY INCLUSION, THE POLICY, AND IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COVERED, I'D ALSO, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR THAT SO WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH A, A COMPLETE POLICY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
WELCOME TO DISCUSS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FOR, FOR JOE DOUGLAS? CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? OKAY.
SO MARIJUANA, WHEN THE COMMITTEE MET TO DISCUSS THIS, WHAT WE DECIDED OR WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, I SHOULDN'T SAY DECIDED, WAS TO FIND A WAY TO BRIDGE THE GAPS.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY BRING US A SET OF ELEVATIONS.
WE SEE SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BUT WE CAN'T BECAUSE THE NEW STATE REQUIREMENTS REALLY DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT OR IT DOES NOT REQUIRE REQUIRED.
SO THEN HOW DO WE TAKE TURNS, RIGHT? HOW DO WE TAKE TERS MONEY OR INCENTIVES AND SLOWLY WALK THEM TO, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY? SO AGAIN, IT WAS THIS, THIS CONCEPT WAS BUILT TO BRIDGE THE GAPS BETWEEN THE INVESTOR AND THE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I ALSO LIKED THE MATH THAT, UH, THAT JOE DID.
I THOUGHT THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE REALLY SPELLED IT OUT BETWEEN HOW THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS IS EXACTLY THE SAME WHETHER YOU'RE ON SIX IN TEXAS PARKWAY.
SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, I, I, I LIKED THIS PLAN.
I ASKED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, UM, FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
CAUSE I KNOW IT, IT HAS SOME DISCUSSIONS LAST TIME, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT IN MY OPINION.
THIS STERLING JOYOUS, I TOO AM IMPRESSED WITH THE, UH, WHERE YOUR PRESENTATION HERE AS WELL AND THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT ALSO, UH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU HAVING A CHECKLIST AS WELL.
IT PERHAPS YOU MAY WANT TO MINIMIZE IT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO THROUGH IT QUITE EASILY TO AN APPLICATION, I'M ASSUMING.
BUT I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
UH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A CHECKLIST AS WELL.
ANYONE ELSE? ARE THERE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE? NO.
I WOULD ADD ONE COMMENT IN THAT CASE, MATT, IS THIS IN SOME PLACES WHERE LIKE SANTA IS SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CAN EXCEED WHAT YOU WOULD BUILD ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A POA OFTENTIMES EXCEED CITY STANDARDS.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS CAN ACTUALLY BE HIGHER THAN, NOT NECESSARILY FROM A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH, BUT USING IT AS A LEVEL, AS A LEVEL.
THAT'S WHERE I WOULD THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND WHAT WE'LL DO THEN IS I'LL WORK WITH LEGAL AND THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXISTING POLICIES AND NECESSARY CHANGES AND BRING IT BACK FOR YOUR DISCUSSIONS.
[3. CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION]
ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT.I THINK WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO THE TIME IS NOW NINE 17 HE, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE 1.071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND I GUESS DOUG, YOU'RE GO AHEAD AND PUT US IN AND ONCE WE GET OUR LAND WE'LL START THE DISCUSSION.
WHO'S IN THE ROOM, MAN? IS IT COUNCIL ONLY FOR STAFF COUNSEL AND E-JUICE JOYCE, IS ANYONE ELSE COMING IN WITH YOU OR IS IT JUST YOU? THE CITY MANAGER USUALLY COMES IN AS WELL.
SO BILL WOULD COME IN AND I DON'T KNOW IF GLEN IS ON THE LINE STILL, BUT GLEN WOULD ALSO COME IN.
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OKAY.[4. RECONVENE into Special Session and consider action, if any, on items discussed in Executive Session.]
TIME IS NOW NINE 54 WHEN WE WILL NOW RECONVENE BACK INTO THE SPECIAL SESSION.IS ELENA STILL ON THE CALL? I SEEN HER, YES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
UH, IN REFERENCE TO BRAND ERA, THE CONTRACT ORIGINALLY WENT OVER IS A REALLY ORIGINAL SPENDING LIMITS OR STAFF SPENDING LIMITS BACK IN JUNE, 2019.
SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, I HAVE KIND OF TWO QUESTIONS.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE ANY MECHANISM THAT, SO US, WHEN YOU ARE ENTERING A MOUNTS OR CONTRACT THAT YOU'VE REACHED THE SPENDING LIMIT? OKAY.
UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE TYLER MUNIS, UH, CONTRACT, UH, ADMINISTRATION MODULE, WHICH, UM, WE IMPLEMENTED THE FIRST PHASE, WHICH WAS TO GET ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS, UM, AND PUT INTO THE SYSTEM.
UH, THE NEXT PHASE IS TO LINK THE CONTRACTS TO ENCUMBRANCES, WHICH WOULD, UM, UH, BEEN, UH, BE ABLE TO ASSIST US WITH TRACKING THE SPEND ON EACH CONTRACT.
AND, UM, ENCUMBERING THE FUNDS FOR, UM, EACH CONTRACT.
IS IT THE MULTIYEAR CONTRACT? IT WILL ENCUMBER FUNDS TO YOUR BASIS ALSO? SO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING, BUT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE IT IN PLACE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO SEE IF WE'RE HITTING METAL CONTRACT MAXIMUM.
SO HOW ARE WE, HOW ARE WE CATCHING CONTRACTS WHEN THEY GOT TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT?
UH, SO I WOULD THINK THAT, UM, IT DEPENDS UPON THE PURCHASE ORDER, UH, AND IF SOMEONE IS REQUESTING TO AMEND A PURCHASE ORDER OR TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF THE PURCHASE ORDER AT THAT POINT IN TIME, UH, PURCHASING REVIEWS THAT INFORMATION AGAINST THE VENDOR AND THE CONTRACT.
I KNOW FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR WHEN, UM, THE PAYMENTS EXCEEDED 50,000, I BELIEVE THERE WERE TWO, UH, PAYMENT REQUEST FORMS THAT WERE SUBMITTED THAT WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T PAYMENTS ON THE ACTUAL PURCHASE ORDER.
UM, AND SO I'M ASSUMING THAT AT THAT TIME WHEN THEY REVIEWED THE PAYMENT REQUEST FORMS, THEY SEEM TO BE STANDALONE INVOICES.
UM, AND IT ALSO COULD BE THAT THOSE PAYMENT REQUESTS FORMS WERE SUBMITTED AT A TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN, UM, WE, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSE TO YEAR END, WE STOPPED ACCEPTING, UM, INVOICES AGAINST PURCHASE ORDERS BECAUSE THERE'S THE TIRE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, CLOSING THE YEAR IN ROLLING PURCHASE ORDER.
SO THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT WAS NOT CAUGHT AT THAT TIME.
CAN YOU, UM, SO YOU, JOYCE IS GONNA PUT THIS ON THE NEXT MEETING.
SO AT THE NEXT MEETING, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET US A STEP BY STEP ON WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT? AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, WHEN WE ARE APPROVING PAYMENTS, ESPECIALLY AS SOMETHING OF LIKE $10,000, IS, IS THERE A PROCESS IN PLACE OR SOMETHING THAT CATCHES THAT THE MANAGER OR SUPERVISOR SHOULD SIGN OFF ON THIS OR CAN IT JUST GET PUSHED THROUGH WITH JUST ON A STAFF LEVEL FOR THEM? NO, THERE'S, THERE'S WORKFLOW BASED ON A SIGNATURE AUTHORITY.
UM, SO ANYTHING OVER $10,000 WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
UM, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND I BELIEVE THE, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, I BELIEVE DEPARTMENT HEADS AUTHORITY, I THINK IT MIGHT BE $7,000.
UM, SO THERE IS WORKFLOW WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO A PAYMENT FOR $10,000, THERE'S A REQUISITION THAT'S SUBMITTED BY STAFF APPROVED BY, UM, SUPERVISORS AND MANAGEMENT BASED ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THEN THERE'S RECEIVING THAT TAKES PLACE.
UM, SO THERE IS A THREE WAY, UH, MATCH FOR THAT.
BUT UH, SO THERE'S ALREADY A PROCESS IN PLACE THERE.
THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR APPROVING PAYMENTS.
YOU SAID THERE A THREE WAY PROCESS IN PLACE AND IF THERE IS, AND YOU MENTIONED JUST A MOMENT AGO THERE COULD HAVE BEEN AN INDEPENDENT
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STANDALONE CONTRACT.ARE YOU LINKING THE SAME CONTRACTS IN YOUR SYSTEM? UM, I, I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND YOUR STATEMENT.
THAT DEALS WITH, UH, THE PURCHASE, THE PURCHASE ORDER, THE RECEIVING DOCUMENT AND THE INVOICE.
THAT'S WHAT THE THREE MAIN WAY MATCHES.
UM, SO IF THERE IS A PURCHASE ORDER THAT WAS PROCESSED, WE ARE LINKING THAT INFORMATION INCLUDING THE INVOICE, UM, TO, TO THE PAYMENT.
UM, THE, THE UH, REQUISITION FOR $10,000 WAS, WAS A NEW PURCHASE ORDER FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020.
THE PRIOR PAYMENTS WERE ON A FISCAL YEAR, 2019 PURCHASE ORDER AND WE CLOSED THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS.
SO BECAUSE THAT FOR I GUESS, CAUSE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR PRIOR THAT PURCHASE ORDER WAS CLOSED.
IT DIDN'T, I GUESS SYNC TO SAY, HEY, YOU'RE GOING OVER THE, YOU KNOW, 49,000.
THE PURCHASE ORDER DIDN'T SYNC.
BUT UM, AS FAR AS PROCUREMENT, REVIEWING THE REQUEST AND SEEING THAT, UM, THE ATTACHMENT WAS, UH, THE BRAND DERRICK CONTRACT AT THAT TIME.
WHEN THE REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED, THEY DID NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENT THAT IT NEEDED TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THAT'S THE POINT WHERE WE THEN STOPPED IT AND WE'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD IN APRIL.
IF YOU GUYS CAN PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER SO WE CAN GET A TIMELINE IN KIND OF A COHESIVE UNDERSTANDING OF EVERYTHING AND THAT'S FINE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.
THIS BILL AS WE MENTIONED OR AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON A PROCESS SOLUTION IS AS ALINA JUST MENTIONED, WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH CONTRACT COMPONENT WITHIN MUNIS.
AND SO, UH, UH, WE'LL WORK AND SEE IF WE CAN BRING FOR NOT ONLY UH, WHAT OCCURRED HERE BUT HOW TO FIX THAT GOING FORWARD WITH THE SYSTEM.
UM, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF IN REFERENCE TO BRAND ERROR FROM THE COUNCIL? THIS IS ANTHONY.
I MOVE THAT COUNCIL RATIFY THE PAYMENT OF $2,010 TO BRENDA FOR THE PRINTED REC AND TRAVEL EXPENSES.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I'LL DO, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I DO THE ROLL CALL? VOTE.
UM, I WILL START MERE PORTENT.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER STERLING MADE THE SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER.
THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY AND THIS IS MAYOR FORD? YES.
UM, ALSO, UM, BEFORE WE END THE MEETING, UM, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE DELIVERABLES ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT PROVIDED.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, IF, IF YOU WANT TO DO IT WHEN WE DO THE PROCESS DISCUSSION, THAT'S FINE TOO.
AND THAT WAS FOLLOWING UP ON OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER.
UH, HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT ALL TOGETHER CAUSE AS OF TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE IT FOR THAT.
UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE WILL ADJOURN.