* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. NO PROBLEM. [00:00:03] WE WILL NOW [1. ROLL CALL] START THE SPECIAL MEETING. THE TIME IS NOW SIX 18. I STAYED THAT THE NOTICE OF THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS DULY POSTED. THERE WILL NOW BE A ROLL CALL FOR CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR PRO TEM PRESTON PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS, COUNCIL MEMBER, STERLING COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER REALISTS, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY PRESENT. ALRIGHTY, THERE WILL NOW BE A ROLL CALL OF CITY STAFF, INTERIM CITY MANAGER, BILL ATKINSON, PRESENT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, GLEN MARTEL PRISON. DID HE ATTORNEY ? YEAH. CITY SECRETARY MARIA JACKSON PRESENT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, STACY WALKER, PRESENT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, OLDEST SPRIGS, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORD CITY ENGINEER. SHALL SHE KUMAR PRESENT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS WORKS CLIFF BLUE PART PRESENT CITY CONSULTANT FROM FOOD, FOOD GROW SERIOUS OF OUR BODY AND CITY CONSULTANT FROM FOOD GROW, TOMMY RAMADAN PRESENT DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. JASON MANGUM. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT FOR THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT I DID NOT CALL? ALRIGHTY, WE'LL [2. DISCUSSION/POSSIBLE ACTION] GET STARTED WITH ITEM TWO, A UPDATE ON CITYWIDE SIDEWALK AND PAVEMENT ASSESSMENTS AS PART OF THE PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. OKAY, GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS SHASHI KUMAR. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. VERY GOOD. UM, MARIN COUNCIL, THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE CITYWIDE PAYMENT AND SIDEWALK ASSESSMENT THAT WE RECENTLY COMPLETED. I'M JOINED BY MY TEAM HERE, CLIFF PROHEART ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER STREETS. UH, WE ALSO HAVE OUR CONSULTANT TEAM FROM FEW GROW, UH, CYRUS ALLOW ME AND TO MEET, UH, RAM HAN. UH, THEY WILL ATTACK TEAM WITH ME IN THIS PRESENTATION. IT'S A FAIRLY LONG PRESENTATION WITH 39 SLIDES. SO I WILL GO OVER THE PAYMENT ASSESSMENT PART. CLIFF WILL DO THE SIDEWALK AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM WE'LL, UH, DISCUSS ABOUT THE FINDINGS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THAT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO SLIDE NUMBER TWO, PLEASE. BACK IN, UH, SEPTEMBER, 2019, THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED A CONTRACT WITH FEW GROWTH TO PERFORM THE ASSESSMENT OF OUR SIDEWALKS AND PAYMENT INFRASTRUCTURE. UH, THIS WAS, UH, A NINE MONTH ASSIGNMENT AND OUR GOAL WAS TO COMPLETE IT IN MAY. SO WE CAN COME BACK AND, UH, PROVIDE YOU THE RECOMMENDATIONS AHEAD OF THE BUDGET MEETINGS, BECAUSE SOME OF THE DECISIONS, UH, FROM THIS WILL HELP US IN THE BUDGET AND THE CIP PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH IS AN ITEM OF PRESENTATION LATER IN THE REGULAR MEETINGS. SO WE'LL DISCUSS THESE FINDINGS AND THE STAFF AND CONSULTANT TEAM WILL PROVIDE, UH, THE COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HUH? NOT TOO LONG AGO. UH, THIS COUNCIL WAS PRESENTED THE FINDINGS FROM THE 2020 CITIZENS SURVEY. UH, IF YOU MAY RECALL A MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, ONE OF THE TOP EMPHASIS THAT THE CITIZENS OF MINNESOTA CITY WANTED THE, UH, WANTED TO BE PLACED OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS WAS THE OVERALL MAINTENANCE OF CITY STREETS, SIDEWALK, AND INFRASTRUCTURE. UH, I DON'T WANT TO DILUTE ANY OTHER EFFORTS HERE, BUT UH, THIS PRIORITY STOOD OUT OVER OR, UH, ABOUT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES. SO WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, REGARDED AS A PRIORITY BY THE RESIDENTS OF MISERY CITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE CITY'S LAST PAYMENT ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED BACK IN 2013. THIS WAS ALSO DONE BY THE SAME CONSULTANT TEAM. UM, THIS, UH, ASSESSMENT SERVED AS THE BASIS FOR THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM. AS YOU MAY RECALL, UH, THE CITY HAS INVESTED, UH, EXTENSIVE FUNDING IN THE SIDEWALK REHAB PROGRAM IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. ALSO, UH, THIS ASSESSMENT RESULTED IN WHAT WE CALL A PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX, AND THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR HOW THE MONEY WAS SPENT ON THE, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION OF THE PAYMENT CITYWIDE. [00:05:01] AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS ASSESSMENT ESTABLISHES WHAT'S CALLED A PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX THAT KIND OF RATES THE PAYMENT, UH, ACROSS THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IN GENERAL, THE CITY HAS INVESTED AT APPROXIMATELY AROUND 700,000 PER YEAR IN PAYMENT MAINTENANCE. WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT PAYMENT MAINTENANCE, IT'S FIXING THE ROUTINE POTHOLES, UH, DOING SOME PANEL REPLACEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I SAY APPROXIMATELY 700,000 BECAUSE THIS FUNDING IS COMING FROM METRO, WHICH IS A DERIVATIVE OF SALES TAX. SOME YEARS IT CAN GO UP SOME YEARS, IT CAN BE A LITTLE LOWER, BUT GENERALLY IT HOVERS AROUND 700,000 FOR A YEAR. AND AGAIN, THE LARGER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE FUNDED THROUGH BOND PROGRAMS. THE CITY MAY ISSUE TRANSPORTATION BONDS. WE MAY MATCH FUNDINGS FROM OTHER AGENCIES, SUCH AS FORT BEND COUNTY AND THE RECENT PROJECTS ON THE BOND PROGRAMS INCLUDE ADAMS STREET. THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND INDEPENDENCE BOULEVARD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ONGOING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS MAP SHOWS IN FISCAL YEAR 20, UH, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WHERE ALL THE PAYMENT, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE AND REHAB PROJECTS ARE CURRENTLY ONGOING. UH, TO DATE, WE HAVE EXPENDED ABOUT 800,000 AND WE HAVE ANOTHER 238,000, UH, LOOK, UH, WORTH OF REPAIR SPENDING. THE REPS ARE, UH, WHERE, UH, IT'S SPENDING AND THE GREEN IS WHERE WE'VE COMPLETED OVER THE YEARS. WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASING NEED FOR, UH, PAYMENT MAINTENANCE AND REHAB, AND WE'RE BARELY ABLE TO CATCH UP WITH THE FUNDING THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO THIS PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. OH, PART OF THE PAYMENT ASSESSMENT IS A FEW GROW, HAS AN AUTOMATED WACO THAT COLLECTS PAYMENT CONDITION DATA. UH, THEY DROVE OR 270 LANE MILES OF CITY. UH, SOME OF THE STREETS, UH, IF IT'S A RESIDENTIAL, UH, IT'S JUST ONE PASS. IF IT'S ARTERIAL WITHIN DIVIDED BOULEVARD, UH, IT'S CONSIDERED AS TO PASS. SO IN TOTAL, UH, THE, THE ASSESSMENT WAS DONE FOR 330 MILES. UM, AND THE, UH, THIS METHOD IDENTIFIES PAYMENT DISTRESS, AND THIS IS THE INDUSTRY STANDARD WAY OF DOING THINGS. AND, UH, FINALLY THIS, UH, THIS, UH, DATA IS GIVEN TO THE CITY IN A GIS COMPATIBLE FORMAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ALL THIS DATA TRANSLATES TO WHAT WE CALL A PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX. THE HIGHER THE INDEX, THE PAYMENT IS IN A BETTER CONDITION AND LOWER THE PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX. THE PAYMENT IS IN POOR OR BAD CONDITION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE LAST TIME THIS WAS DONE WAS IN 2013, UH, AT THAT POINT, UH, THE PCI, THE AVERAGE PCI ACROSS CITYWIDE STOOD AT A NUMBER OF 76 AND 76 SEEMS TO BE THE, THE CATEGORY WHERE THE PAYMENT WAS IN SATISFACTORY CONDITION, WHICH WAS A VERY GOOD CONDITION. UH, NOW WHEN WE, UH, UH, AND AGAIN, THIS WAS A SCORE THAT WAS DONE BACK IN 2013. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THE ESSENCE OF PAYMENTS MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS YOU TRY TO INVEST IN YOUR PAYMENT UPKEEP WHEN THE PAYMENT IS IN FAIR OR HIGHER CONDITION. SO, UH, IF YOU INVEST $1 IN TERMS OF REHAB THAT COULD BE FIXING POTHOLES OR, UH, REHABBING PANELS THAT HAVE DAMAGED, YOU COULD DEFER THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE PAYMENT, WHICH IS WHEN HE, WHEN WE MEAN RECONSTRUCTION, HE CAN NO MORE PATCH OR REHAB. YOU'LL HAVE TO TOTALLY RECONSTRUCT THE PAYMENT. YOU CAN DEFER IT. NOW, THE COST FOR RECONSTRUCTION IS FOUR TO FIVE TIMES THE COST FOR REHAB. SO ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE PAYMENT IS MONEY WELL SPENT. UH, IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, YOU'RE BASICALLY KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WHERE YOU WILL INCUR FOUR TO FIVE TIMES HIGHER COST IN ADDRESSING THE ISSUE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. PART OF THE FEW GROWTH TEAM THAT DID THE EVALUATION OF THE CITY'S PAYMENT AND A WEEK WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF PAYMENT. ONE IS WHAT WE CALL THE CONCRETE PAYMENT, WHICH IS 90% OF OUR PAYMENT. UH, THEY ARE REFERRED TO IT AS, UH, PORTLAND, CEMENT CONCRETE, AND THE OTHER ONE IS ASPHALT. WE CALL IT, THEY CALL IT, UH, ASPHALT, THE CONCRETE AND THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION THEY'RE GIVING IS IF THE PCI SCORES ARE ABOUT 85 AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NOTHING TO BE DONE. [00:10:01] IF IT IS ABOUT 60, WE NEED TO WATCH AND DO SOME MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS POTHOLE REPAIR, MUCH JACK. THIS IS WHERE THE PAYMENT IS SUBSIDED. WE MAY HAVE TO LIFT THE PAYMENT TO ALLOW FOR PROPER DRAINAGE, AND IF IT HAS DROPPED BELOW 40, UH, THAT IS, THAT MEANS IT'S IN VERY POOR CONDITION AND THAT PAYMENT SHOULD BE RECONSTRUCTED. THAT MEANS TEAR IT DOWN AND REBUILD IT. UH, THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OR THE ANALYSIS THAT FUGO TEAM HAS PROVIDED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE, UH, THIS SLIDE IS KIND OF THE, UH, THE MEAT OF THE OLD, UH, PRESENTATION. UH, THEY DID THE PCI CITYWIDE AND THEY DEVELOPED WHAT'S CALLED AND NETWORK PCI KIND OF AN AVERAGE PCI CITYWIDE. AND CURRENTLY WE STAND AT 55. NOW, IF YOU RECALL, IN 2013, WE WERE 76, WE DROPPED TO 55. SO THAT IS NOT A, UH, NOT A VERY GOOD CONDITION OF PAYMENT. THAT 55 IS STILL A FAIR CONDITION, BUT THE PAYMENT CONDITION OR LEVEL HAS DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY. AND AGAIN, THERE'S A BREAKDOWN, DISTRICT-WISE A PCD, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE, UH, TOO MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, BUT YOU SEE THAT IN DISTRICT C IT'S RELATIVELY, UH, BETTER STREETS. AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS IS IT'S NEWER STREETS. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE NUTSHELL OF THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT WAS DONE. IF YOU GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE , AND THIS IS ILLUSTRATIVE IN A MAP. UH, IF YOU SEE A BLUE AND GREEN, THAT MEANS, UH, THE PAYMENT IS IN GOOD CONDITION OR FAIR CONDITION. UH, IF YOU SEE DARKER COLORS LIKE THE RED AND THE MAGENTA, THAT MEANS THE PAYMENT IS IN POOR CONDITION OR VERY BAD CONDITION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, NOW WE HAVE THIS BROKEN UP BY DISTRICTS. UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE IT FOR ALL THE DISTRICTS, A, B, C, AND D UH, I THINK, UM, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE THIS, I THINK DISTRICT A, UH, AS, UH, AS, UH, ONE OF THE LOWEST OR THE HIGHEST COST FOR RECONSTRUCTION, WE SPLIT IT OUT IN TERMS OF DISTRICT OF WHAT IT COSTS TO REPAIR THE PAYMENT. I THINK A STANCE IN TERMS OF THE HIGHEST COST TO DO THE, UH, REPAIR AND REHAB WORK, AND THE LEAST IS, UH, DISTRICT C. AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE, UH, PROBABLY THE ATTRIBUTES IS C HAS A RELATIVELY NEWER PAYMENT COMPARED TO THE OTHER DISTRICTS. SO WE COULD FLIP, UH, FOUR SLIDES PLEASE, AND GET BACK TO THE TABLE. SO THIS KIND OF SUMMARIZES WHAT IT IS CITYWIDE TODAY. UH, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT TODAY, UH, THERE IS ABOUT 400, $461 MILLION WORTH OF REPAIRS, WHICH INCLUDES PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS RECONSTRUCTION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IF WE HAD THE MONEY TO DO IT, UH, NOT ANY MONEY, NOT ANY CITY OR MUNICIPALITY HAS THIS KIND OF FUNDING, BUT THIS JUST GIVES US AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE NEED IS OUT THERE. UH, ROUGHLY OUT THIS FOUR AND 61 MILLION, UH, 370 A MILLION IS ATTRIBUTED TO TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION COSTS. THAT IS THE PAYMENT THAT HAS DROPPED BELOW A PCI OPS 40, WHICH IS A NEED OF RECONSTRUCTION AND ANOTHER HUNDRED AND 54 MILLION THAT IS NEEDED IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, THAT'S POTHOLE REPAIRS, AND PANEL REPLACEMENTS. ASSUMING THAT WE EVEN HAD THIS KIND OF MONEY, WE STILL HAVE TO SPEND APPROXIMATELY 1.7 MILLION EVERY YEAR, JUST TO MAINTAIN THAT TO ME, TO MAINTAIN OR UPKEEP THIS PAYMENT. SO IT DOES NOT DROP BELOW ACCEPTABLE LEVEL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, THIS KIND OF GIVES A BREAKOUT OF THE $740,000 THAT WE SPENT ANNUALLY MAINTENANCE AND FOR WHAT IT'S BEING SPENT. AGAIN, A MAJORITY OF BULK OF THIS IS SPENT IN PANEL REPLACEMENTS. THAT'S SECTIONS OF CONCRETE STREETS THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE FIXED AS WELL AS IN POTHOLE REPAIRS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO OBVIOUSLY, UH, NO CITY, NEITHER DOES MISSOURI CITY HAVE THIS KIND OF FUNDING TO ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES AT ONCE, WHICH IS THE, AND $61 MILLION. OUR CURRENT FUNDING THAT WE HAVE FOR MAINTENANCE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE BUDGET IS ABOUT $740,000. SO WE LOOKED AT INCREMENTS OF WHAT IS IT WE CAN AFFORD, AND WHAT DOES IT DO BY SPENDING THIS KIND OF MONEY? WE LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, ANNUAL OPERATING ANNUAL MAINTENANCE BUDGET OF 1.5 MILLION. UH, THE GROWTH TEAM RECOMMENDED, OR A BUDGET OF 3 MILLION BASED ON WHAT THEY ASSESSED WAS THE PROBLEM. WE [00:15:01] ALSO LOOKED AT A BUDGET OF FIVE AND A HALF BILLION IF WE WANT TO INCREASE THE PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX ACROSS CITYWIDE. SO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IS KIND OF WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE MODELING. AND AGAIN, THIS IS DONE BY THE FEW GROUP TEAM. THEY'LL LOOK AT THE CURRENT PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SPEND THIS KIND OF MAINTENANCE BUDGET ANNUALLY, THIS KIND OF RECONSTRUCTION BUDGET, OR WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHERE DOES IT GET YOU IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW? SO THIS TABLE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AND IT'S A LOT OF NUMBERS, BUT I'LL TRY TO, UH, WALK, UH, SOME OF THESE THINGS HERE, THE THIRD COLUMN, IF YOU LOOK, UH, OUR AVERAGE PCI TODAY IS 55 CITYWIDE. IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING IN FIVE YEARS, THE PCI IS GOING TO DROP TO 41. THAT MEANS ESSENTIALLY IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS, YOU WILL HAVE TO RECONSTRUCT ALL THE STREETS. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND ALSO WHAT IT TELLS US IS THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE ARE SPENDING 740,000, UM, IS NOT ADEQUATE. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, UH, IT IS THE NEXT COLUMN, WHICH IS THE FOURTH COLUMN. THE CURRENT PCI IS 55, BUT ASSUMING THAT WE SPEND ALL THE, THE 461 MILLION, UH, UPFRONT, AND THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET OF 1.7 MILLION A YEAR, IT SAYS WHERE WE WILL BE IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS, WHICH IS A PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX OF 90. OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DO THIS, BUT THIS IS JUST MORE A, UH, ACADEMIC PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE WE WILL BE. AND THE, UH, THE FIRST COLUMN IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE. WE'RE SPENDING 740,000 ANNUALLY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PCI SCORES IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS, WE'LL DROP BELOW 40, AND THAT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE. NOW, WE LOOKED AT THE NEXT SCENARIO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE OUR SPENDING IN TERMS OF THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AND WHAT DOES IT DO? WELL, IT'S SLIGHTLY BETTER, BUT STILL, UH, MAYBE IN SEVEN YEARS OR SO, WE MAY BE DROPPING TO 40 AND WE'LL BE INTO THE RECONSTRUCTION BUSINESS. NOW, THE NEXT COLUMN, WHAT WE DID WAS I THINK I'M LOOKING AT THE SEVENTH COLUMN IS WE, WE DO SPEND SOME MONEY ON ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHERE WE RECONSTRUCT THE STREET. CURRENTLY, THE CITY IS SPENDING ABOUT FIVE, 6 MILLION A YEAR IN RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. NOW THAT'S THE TOTAL COST OF RECONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING CITY MATCH AND OTHER FUNDING ENTITIES SUCH AS FOR BEND COUNTY. SO WE SAID, LET'S TAKE OUT THE PAYMENT THAT IS DROPPED BELOW 40 AND TRY TO DO BOTH DO ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS A RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM. SO IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, YOU'RE READING OUT THE LOW-PERFORMING PAYMENT. SO YOUR AVERAGE COMES BACK TO 69. AND THEN IF YOU SPEND 1.5 MILLION AND THEN YOU HAVE A ANNUAL, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THEN YOU CAN BETTER MANAGE YOUR PAYMENT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE PCI INDEX, OUR SURROUNDS 67 TO 69. NOW, WHAT IF WE HAVE 3 MILLION, I THINK YOU CAN MAINTAIN THE CURRENT PCI INDEX. NOW, IF YOU WANT TO IMPROVE THE PCI INDEX, THEN YOU WILL NEED TO SPEND ABOUT 5.5 MILLION ANNUALLY AND ALSO HAVE A ROBUST CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. NOW, THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION. I HOPE I WAS ABLE TO TRANSLATE THIS, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE MORE SLIDES. THAT'LL GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I THINK IN THIS SLIDE, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS WE'RE CURRENTLY SPENDING 740,000. WE WISH WE COULD SPEND MORE, BUT WE LOOKED AT A REALISTIC SCENARIO. HOW ABOUT DOUBLING A BUDGET, ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET OR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE BUDGET AT 1.5 MILLION. AND WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT SCENARIO WHERE WE ARE SPENDING ONE AND A HALF MILLION ANNUALLY MAINTENANCE AND ROUGHLY ABOUT 5 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. NOW, IF YOU LOOK THERE, THAT IS NOT ADEQUATE IN YOUR SEVEN, WE'RE HITTING A PCI OF 40. THAT MEANS ALL OUR PAYMENT IS GOING INTO RECONSTRUCTION. SO ALTHOUGH IT'S BETTER, IT'S NOT STILL ADEQUATE. THEN WE LOOKED AT THE SCENARIO, WE USED TO SPEND ONE AND A HALF MILLION ANNUALLY IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, BUT SPEND 10 MILLION IN CAPITAL A PROGRAM IN RECONSTRUCTION COSTS. MAYBE THAT'S A DOABLE APPROACH. UH, WE THINK WE CAN EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE PAYMENT. AND THEN, BUT STILL IN 10 YEARS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR PAYMENTS REQUIRING TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION. NOW WE DID ANOTHER SCENARIO. WHAT IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT PCI? WHAT'S [00:20:01] THE ANNUAL FUNDING REQUIRED FOR MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS WHAT'S THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET THAT WE NEED. AND AGAIN, THIS IS TO GIVE US OUR CURRENT PCI SCORE SAYS 55. AND IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN AROUND THAT PCI SCORE IN WHAT THE MODEL TELLS US IS YOU GOT TO SPEND ONE AND A HALF MILLION ANNUALLY, AND YOU GOTTA HAVE A STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WORTH 30 MILLION ANNUALLY. SO THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF HOW MUCH FUNDING WE'RE LOOKING AT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CLIFF. UH, HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SIDEWALK REHAB PROGRAM AND THE, AFTER THAT THE CONSULTANT WILL DISCUSS THE FINDINGS AND THAT WILL BE COMING BACK AT THE END TO SUMMARIZE THE PRESENTATION CLIFF IT'S YOURS. UH, GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL CAN, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY, GOOD. UH, WELL, I'VE, I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF BETTER NEWS IN THE SIDEWALK REALM AND, UH, I'LL TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE INFORMATION, UH, FROM HISTORICAL ASPECT, AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE ANALYSIS ON THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE HAD DONE THROUGH FRUIT GROW. SO EACH YEAR THROUGH METRO FUNDING, THE, THE CITIES, UH, STREETS DEPARTMENT DOES ABOUT 400 TO $450, $450,000 WORTH OF SIDEWALK REPAIRS. THAT'S THE MONEY ALLOTTED TO US THROUGH OUR METRO FUNDING, UH, BACK IN 2017, COUNCIL SOLVE A NEED TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THE SIDEWALK REPAIRS THAT WERE KIND OF BUILDING UP. SO THEY ALLOCATED ABOUT $2 MILLION IN A ONETIME BOND FUNDING TO HELP US, UH, GET OUT IN FRONT OF THE SIDEWALK ISSUES. UH, WE TOOK THE, THE CURRENT WORK ORDER LISTS THAT WAS PRESENT IN 2017. AND WE STARTED TO APPLY THIS $2 MILLION TO THOSE SIDEWALK LOCATIONS THAT WERE, THAT WERE OUTSTANDING. AND WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT LIST OF SIDEWALK REPAIRS IN THE SUMMER OF 2019. SO BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 2017 AND FISCAL YEAR 2020, UH, THE CITY SPENT ABOUT APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION IN THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES BOTH BOND AND METRO FUNDING. SO AFTER THE, THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM WAS COMPLETED, UH, THE BOND PROGRAM WAS COMPLETED. UH, STAFF WENT BACK OUT FOR RFQ TO GET A SIDEWALK EVALUATION ALONG WITH THE PAYMENT EVALUATION. AND WE CONTRACTED WITH FRUIT GROW TO DO BOTH OF THOSE, BOTH OF THOSE STUDIES. AND THEN WE REEVALUATED THE SIDEWALK CONDITION THROUGH THE CITY AND REASSESSED OUR FINDINGS AND OUR, AND OUR FUNDING NEEDS THE NEXT NEXT SLIDE. SO THE THINGS WE LOOK AT, UM, FROM A SIDEWALK POLICY, UH, AND I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT OF SEVERITY OF HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL SEPARATION. THE CITY HAS A TWO INCH MAXIMUM HORRIBLE, HORIZONTAL SEPARATION AND A HALF INCH MAXIMUM VERTICAL SEPARATION. AND AT THAT POINT WE FEEL LIKE THE, THOSE SEPARATIONS POSE A TRIP HAZARD. SO WE WANNA, WE WANT TO TRY TO AVOID, WE WANT TO TRY TO AVOID THOSE. SO WE WANNA GET OUT AND TRY TO REPAIR THOSE. UH, WE ALSO LOOK AT, UH, LARGE HOLES GREATER THAN THREE INCHES, AND IF THERE'S ANY CROSS SLOPE ISSUES AND THE CROSS SLOPE IS IF THERE'S A ONE INCH DROP OF A ONE FOOT, ANYTHING GREATER THAN THAT, WE CONSIDER A CROSS SLOPE ISSUE, HORIZONTAL, VERTICAL SEPARATIONS, AND CROSS SLOPE ISSUES. AND SOMETIMES LARGE HOLES CAN CONTRIBUTE TO PONDING OF WATER ON SIDEWALKS AND, UH, WATER PONDING ON SIDEWALKS CAUSES ALGAE TO GROW, WHICH CAN BE A SLIP HAZARD. UH, IT ALSO CAUSES RESIDENTS TO HAVE TO GO UP INTO THE GRASS, UM, TO AVOID WATER, WHICH CAN ALSO CAUSE A TRIP HAZARD. AND IT ALSO WATER CAN SEEP UNDER THE SIDEWALK WHEN IT PONDS LIKE THAT, AND ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO, UM, ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK, UM, SUBSIDENCE. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE MAIN THINGS WE LOOK AT. WE ALSO HAVE SOME PRIORITY, SOME PRIORITY ISSUES. SO SOME THINGS THAT WOULD MOVE SIDEWALK ISSUES TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE, OR IF THEY'RE LOCATED IN AREAS THAT PROVIDE ACCESS TO SCHOOLS ARE IF OR IF WE KNOW THAT IT SERVES A RESIDENT WITH HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY MEANS, OKAY, NEXT SLIDE. SO BACK IN 2017 WITH THE BOND PROGRAM, WE HAD AN HOUR, A ONETIME ALLOCATION AT 2 MILLION, AND YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN PER DISTRICT THERE. AND, UH, ONCE IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL WORK COMPLETED. WE FINISHED UP AT ABOUT TWO POINT $1 MILLION. SO THAT WAS THE BOND MONEY AND A LITTLE BIT OF, OF OUR, UM, METRO MONEY. AND WE FINISHED ABOUT 1,530 SIDEWALK LOCATIONS DURING THAT, DURING THAT PROGRAM, [00:25:01] NEXT SLOT , THIS IS A MAP OF THE SIDEWALK LOCATIONS THAT WERE ON THAT PRIORITY LIST. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, ALL THE LOCATIONS ARE GREEN, WHICH SHOWS THAT THEY'RE COMPLETE. SO, UM, WE HAVE NO OUTSTANDING SIDEWALK LOCATIONS FROM THAT INITIAL 2017 BOND PROGRAM, BUT OF COURSE, WHILE WE'RE DOING THOSE SIDEWALKS, ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK ISSUES SHOWED UP AND ALSO SIDEWALKS THAT WEREN'T REPORTED. UM, AND IN OUR WORK ORDER LISTS, WE'RE ALSO OUT THERE, UM, NEEDING TO BE FIXED. SO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT KIND OF TALK ABOUT HOW FRO GROW, UH, ANALYZED THE SIDEWALKS AS THEY, AS THEY DID THE, UM, THE STUDY FOR US. SO THEY MANUALLY WALKED 380 MILES OF SIDEWALK IN THE CITY. AND THERE'S A MAP ON A FUTURE SLIDE WHERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, AN OUTLINE OF ALL THE SIDEWALKS IN THE CITY AND THEIR STAFF USE GPS SYSTEMS TO LOCATE EACH AND EVERY, UH, FAILURE, IF YOU WILL, AS THEY WALK THE SIDEWALKS, THEY, AGAIN, PINPOINTED LOCATIONS WITH VERTICAL SEPARATIONS HOLES, HORIZONTAL SEPARATIONS, AND ALSO I'M NOT LISTED HERE'S CROSS SLOPE, CROSS SLOPE ISSUES. UM, THOSE ARE THE MAIN FAILURES THAT THEY, THAT THEY, THEY NOTED, BUT THEY ALSO TOOK INVENTORY OF CHANGES IN SIDEWALK WIDTHS, WHETHER THE SIDEWALK WAS ATTACHED OR UNATTACHED TO THE CURB. AND IF THE SIDEWALK HAD RAMPS AT THE STREET ENTRANCES, SO THEY BASICALLY STARTED ON, ON ONE STREET. THEY NOTED WHETHER THERE WAS A RAMP. THEY STARTED WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK, THEY TOOK MEASUREMENTS AS THEY WENT NOTED, ALL LOCATIONS OF ANY FAILURES. THEY ALSO NOTED IF ANY VEGETATION, UM, WAS PRESENT AT THOSE FAILURES. IT COULD HAVE BEEN A CAUSE FOR THE FAILURE ARE NOT NECESSARILY A CAUSE FOR THE FAILURE, BUT THEY NOTED ANY VEGETATION ISSUES THAT WERE AT THAT LOCATION. NEXT SLIDE. AND HERE'S THE MAP OF THE SIDEWALK NETWORK IN THE CITY AND ALL OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT THE CONSULTANTS WALKED DURING THE STUDY. NOW THIS IS A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT OF A KIND OF CLUTTERED MAP, BUT, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS YOU HAVE A CITYWIDE MAP WITH ALL OF THE DISTRESS LOCATIONS NOTED. SO YOU HAVE VERTICAL SEPARATIONS, HORIZONTAL SEPARATIONS, CROSS LOAD FAILURES AND HOLE FAILURES. AND YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GREEN ON THIS, ON THIS SLIDE THOUGHT THE GREEN CIRCLES INDICATED WHERE THEY NOTED VEGETATION. AND SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS 40% OF THE FAILURES THAT THEY FOUND HAD SOME TYPE OF VEGETATION NOTED, WHETHER IT WAS A TREE ROOT OR EVEN IF THE SEPARATION OF HORIZONTAL OR VERTICAL SEPARATION HAD FILLED IN WITH GRASS, THEY NOTED THAT. SO THOSE ARE ALL THE GREEN CIRCLES ON THE MAP. YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO IF YOU'LL, IF YOU'LL NOTICE THIS, THEY, THEY TOOK THE, THE, THE FAILURES THAT THEY FOUND AND THEY APPLIED A, A TREATMENT TO IT, MUD JACKING REPLACEMENT, OR A HOLE REPAIR, AND THE ASSOCIATED COSTS. AND THIS ALSO INCLUDES A VEGETATION COST AS WELL, TOOK FOR A TOTAL COST OF JUST UNDER $2 MILLION REMAINING IN SIDEWALK REPAIRS. SO, AND THEN UNDERNEATH THERE, YOU CAN SEE EACH DISTRICT AS IT'S, AS IT'S BROKEN OUT. SO THE 2 BILLION, THE 2 MILLION BOND MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED IN THE YEAR 2017 MADE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE SIDEWALK CONDITION OVERALL CITYWIDE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE IN 2013, THERE WAS ABOUT 6 MILLION IN SIDEWALK DEFICIENCIES THAT WAS NOTED IN THE LAST STUDY. SO BETWEEN THAT STUDY AND THE BOND PROGRAM, WE MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THE BOND PROGRAM MADE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO US GETTING TO THIS NUMBER INTO A MANAGEABLE AND MUCH MORE MANAGEABLE SITUATION. AND SO AGAIN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY BREAK DOWN THE TREATMENT LOCATIONS IN EACH DISTRICT AND WHAT THE ESTIMATED COST PER DISTRICTS WILL BE. AND, UM, AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING GOING FORWARD AND WHAT OUR OUTLOOK LOOKS LIKE ON THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM. SO HE'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK RECAP ON THE BOTH PAVEMENT AND THE SIDEWALK AND GIVE US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. SO CIRRUS. OKAY, GOOD EVENING TO YOU. ON MY NAME IS SIRUS ALAVI, I'M THE PAVEMENT ENGINEERING MANAGER FOR FOOD [00:30:01] USA LAND A LITTLE ABOUT MY BACKGROUND. I HAVE A PHD IN PAVEMENT ENGINEERING WITH 28 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND, UM, UH, TEXAS PE. UM, I, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE KEEP, UH, GOING FORWARD, PLEASE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, SO I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT FINDINGS BEFORE I DO THAT. UH, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, FULL, HAS DONE NUMEROUS, UH, PAPER MANAGEMENT AND SIDEWALK EVALUATION ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING MANY IN TEXAS. AND I'VE DONE OVER 40 OF THESE, UH, UH, TYPE OF EVALUATIONS AND PRESENTED AT VARIOUS CITY COUNCILS. THE, UH, DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM SHAWSHEE AND ALSO FROM CLIFF, UH, ARE, UH, UNIQUE TO THE CITY. BUT THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TALKED IS VERY COMMON WITH, UH, ALL THE CITIES THAT WE WORK WITH. IT'S ALWAYS, THE QUESTION IS A LACK OF AVAILABLE FUNDING, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND WHAT IS THE BEST USE OF THE MONEY. THAT'S WHY THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT AND SIDEWALK EVALUATION BECOMES SO, UH, IMPORTANT, UH, UH, US SHASHI, UH, DISCUSSED CITY WIDE PAVEMENT CONDITION HAS DETERIORATED RAPIDLY SINCE LAST ASSESSMENT. PCI PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX HAS DROPPED FROM 76, IN 2013 TO, UH, 55. AND THIS IS ABOUT THREE, UH, PCI POINTS PER YEAR, WHICH IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN MANY, MANY OTHER, UH, AGENCIES AS WELL. SO EVEN THOUGH IT DOES SOUND LIKE A, NOT SUCH A GOOD NEWS, BUT, UH, THIS IS A VERY COMMON PROBLEM. AND, UH, THE SOLUTION IS, AGAIN, IS TRYING TO QUANTIFY LIKE WE HAVE DONE, UH, IN THIS PROJECT, QUANTIFY THE PROBLEM AND COME UP WITH, UH, WORK, UH, WORKABLE SOLUTIONS. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT LIKE MANY OTHER AGENCIES, THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF FUNDING FOR PAYMENT, UH, MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OF $700,000 A YEAR IS JUST SIMPLY NOT ADEQUATE SHASHI, WENT THROUGH A NUMBER OF, UH, UH, OH, UH, DISCUSSIONS. AND WHAT IF SCENARIOS THAT SHOWED THAT, UH, WHAT IS BEING USED IS GOING TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE PCI OR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX WILL DROP BELOW, UH, WHAT WE CONSIDERED TO BE POOR CONDITION, UH, IN A MATTER OF A FEW YEARS. AND, UH, UH, IF WE DON'T, UH, SPEND, UH, ADEQUATE MONEY NOW FOR MAINTENANCE OVER TIME, IT WILL BECOME A COSTLY, UH, RECONSTRUCTION COST. SO PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO, IS TO TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THE, UH, GOOD ROADS FIRST BEFORE THEY BECOME, UH, WAY MORE EXPENSIVE, UH, UH, TO REPAIR IN THE FUTURE. AND, UM, UH, JUST A LUXURY SHE MENTIONED THERE IS A NEED FOR A VERY ROBUST RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM, UH, IN CIP TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THERE ARE THOSE THAT NEED TO BE, UH, REHABILITATED, UH, GET SO, UH, ON A ANNUAL BASIS NEXT MONTH, PLEASE. UH, GOOD NEWS AS CLIFF HAS MENTIONED, IS THAT THE CITY WALK SIDE SIDEWALK, UH, ASSESSMENT AND THE EFFORT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON BY THE CITY AND, UH, THE FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN, UH, SPENT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS ACTUALLY PAID OFF AND THE SIDEWALK, UH, CONDITION IS GETTING INTO A GOOD SHAPE WHERE THE CURRENT BACKLOG IS ONLY ABOUT $2 MILLION. AND WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, UH, UH, WE WILL CATCH UP WITH ALL THE, UH, SIDEWALK, UH, RECONSTRUCTION, UH, BACKLOG, AND PERHAPS PART OF THAT FUNDING CAN BE, UH, UH, UH, USED OR REASSESSED FOR, UH, OTHER ACTIVITIES. MOST SPECIFICALLY, PAVEMENTS NEXT, PLEASE. UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO INCREASE ANNUAL, UH, PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FUNDING, UH, TWO, $3 MILLION, BUT, UH, WE RECOGNIZE JUST LIKE MANY OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH. THERE IS THAT ONE HAS TO BE REALISTIC. SO, UH, UH, OBVIOUSLY SPENDING MORE MONEY INTO, UH, THE PROGRAM IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT, UH, $3 MILLION IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. WHAT WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, UH, THE, THE, UH, CURRENT, UH, UH, WAY OF THINKING IS, UH, IS, UH, WHICH IS A GREAT THING, IS TO AT LEAST TRY TO INCREASE THAT FUNDING TO A ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND, UH, TO, UH, INVEST, UH, IN A CIP PROGRAM OF ABOUT $10 MILLION PER YEAR. AND ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT WE LIKE TO BRING UP IS THAT MANY AGENCIES, WHEN THEY LOOK AT, UH, THEIR, UH, BACKLOG, AS FAR AS, UH, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND, UH, PAVEMENT IMPROVING THE PAVEMENT CONDITION, [00:35:01] UH, THEY THINK ABOUT, UH, UH, OR CONSIDER, UH, UH, BOND PROGRAMS. AND THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A DECISION THAT, UH, YOU MAY WANT TO, UH, I SAID, SUMMERTIME, UH, YOURSELF, AND THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF AGENCIES THAT JUST LIKE WHAT YOU DID WITH YOUR SIDEWALK. THEY'VE DONE THAT FOR PAYMENTS, UH, THROUGH VARIOUS, UH, RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, ALSO TO, UH, CONTINUE USING, UH, ABOUT $400,000 ANNUALLY ON THE SIDEWALK AND OUR TIME, UH, UH, AS THE SIDEWALK, UH, CONDITIONED, UH, UH, IMPROVES ALL THE BACKLOG IN MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION ARE TAKEN CARE OF WITH THAT MONEY. IF THE CITY DECIDES TO, CAN BE DIVERTED TO, UH, UH, PAYMENTS, UH, AUBURN TIME, I'VE TURNED BACK THIS BACK TO SHOSHANA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, MARIN COUNCIL, UH, YOU HEARD SOME, UH, UH, BETTER NEWS ON THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM, UH, THAT ARE, UH, THE INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS PAID AS PAID SOME DIVIDENDS, AND THAT PROGRAM IS KIND OF MANAGEABLE AT THIS POINT, UH, BUT NOT SO GOOD NEWS ON THE PAYMENT MANAGEMENT SIDE. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT CAN THE CITY DO? I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE CIP PRESENTATION AT THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WE HAVE, UH, UH, RECOMMENDING TO YOU IS THAT A LOT OF OUR, UH, THE SIDEWALK AND PAYMENT REHAB FUNDING IS THROUGH METRO. UH, WE HAVE COMPETING NEEDS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HIGHLIGHTED COLUMN WHERE WE SEE AN INCREASE IN DEMAND IS SIGNAL UPGRADING. UH, EVERY YEAR WE'RE ALMOST, UH, BUILDING A NEW SIGNAL, UH, GOING FROM A SPAN WIRED TO A MASS TERM, UH, THAT IS COMPETING AGAINST SIDEWALK AND PAYMENT MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, AND AGAIN, WE'LL DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT IN DETAIL IS, UH, WE KEEP THE SIDEWALK FUNDING CONSTANT, UH, ROUGHLY AROUND 400,000 PLUS FOR THE NEXT FORESEEABLE FIVE YEARS, UH, WHICH SHOULD ENABLE US TO CATCH UP WITH THE BACKLOG. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE CANNOT, UH, GO TO THE 3 MILLION FUNDING RECOMMENDED BY FEW GROW, BUT YOU SEE THAT WE CAN, UH, FUND, UH, 1.5 MILLION OR SLIGHTLY HIGHER IN THE COMING YEARS. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE CAN'T HIT THE 3 MILLION TARGET IS THE, UH, ELENA, UH, DISCUSSED ABOUT IT JUST A LITTLE EARLIER. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ENCUMBRANCES FROM THE METRO FUNDING, WHICH IS THE PART GATE 90 REIMBURSEMENT, AS YOU CAN SEE FOR THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS, UH, UH, OUR FUNDING LOOKS TIGHT BECAUSE OF THE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. BUT AFTER THAT, UH, THERE IS DEFINITELY, UH, MORE FUNDING AND MORE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO CATCH UP WITH THE PAYMENT MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. THE QUESTION IS THE SOONER WE DO, UH, THE LESSER, WE WILL PAY, UH, FIVE OR 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, UH, WITH THAT, UH, I WANT TO THANK THE FUTURE GROWTH TEAM. THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD TO WORK WITH, UH, ON THE DOT. THEY COMPLETED THE ASSESSMENT IN NINE MONTHS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER SO WE CAN PRESENT THE FINDINGS TO YOU. I ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, CLIFF. I THINK HE SPEARHEADED THE SIDEWALK REHABILITATION PROGRAM. UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPENDING $3 MILLION IN SIDEWALK REPAIRS IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, UH, THAT IS, UH, A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN SIDEWALKS. I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR SPIRITING, THAT IT HAS BEEN A LONG PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, THE CITY STAFF AND CONSULTANT TEAM ARE AVAILABLE NOW TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAUCY AND HIS TEAM? YEAH, THIS IS COUNCIL ON STERLING. UH, SASHA, I HAVE A QUESTION I NOTICED IN THERE, UH, MAYBE A FIRST FOUR OR FIVE SLIDES YOU HAD ALL OF THE, UM, UH, RESIDENTS THAT WERE ACTUALLY COMPLETED, UH, AND I DIDN'T SEE COLONY CROSS. AND SO IS IT COMPLETED OR IS IT ONGOING, UH, ON THE PAYMENT SIDE COUNCIL MEMBER? UH, THAT WOULD BE A SLIDE NUMBER THREE, FOUR FIVE SLIDE NUMBER SIX. WHO DO YOU RECALL IF WE HAVE COMPLETED COLONY CROSSING A ROADWAY OR SIDEWALK? OH, SORRY. SIDEWALK. I CAN DEFINITELY CHECK. IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT ORIGINAL LIST. AND THAT MAY BE WHY IT'S NOT ON THIS MAP BECAUSE THIS MAP WAS THE SKYWALK COMPLETION MAP WAS BASED ON THAT ORIGINAL TWO 2017 WORK ORDER LIST. UM, WE CAN CHECK OUT SOME MEMBER AND GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT RESPONSE. OKAY. CAUSE SASHA, THEY STARTED ABOUT, UH, MAYBE ABOUT TWO MONTHS, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN A COMPLETION, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE [00:40:01] NOT CONTINUOUSLY WORKING WITHIN THE LAST, UH, TWO TO THREE WEEKS THEN JUST TO NOTE OUT AND I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SASHI MAYOR? UH, THE SPILL ACTION? UH, ONE THING I WOULD MENTION IS THAT WE ARE TALKING TO FFA OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND LOOKING AT WHAT POTENTIAL WE MAY HAVE FOR, UH, CAPACITY. AND SO AGAIN, WITH, UH, THE MARKETS, THE WAY THEY ARE, AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT EVALUATIONS, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A GOOD, LONG, HARD LOOK AT THAT, WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'LL BE DOING THIS YEAR. AND WE'LL PRESENT THAT, UH, A LITTLE LATER IS THAT THE, UH, VALUES HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY. BUT A LOT OF THE VALUE WE SAW WAS IN TAHRIR. SO THE MONEY WENT BACK TO THE TERRORS, I THINK ELENA MENTIONED. AND SO THAT AFFECTS CAPACITY, BUT ALSO, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR. UH, GIVEN WHAT'S GONE ON IN THE ECONOMY AND LOOKING AT THE, UH, UH, CAPACITY THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO BUILD IN ORDER TO SELL MORE AND GET BACK WITH YOU IN REGARDS TO THAT, THAT WOULD BE ONE POSSIBILITY AND TRYING TO CHIP AWAY AT THIS LOW QUICKER, UH, THAN THE 1.5 ANNUALLY. BUT, UH, AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING LEFT TO BE CAUTIOUS IN VIEWING AND EVALUATE FOR YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RECESS AND GO TO OUR REGULAR MEETING AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE SPECIAL AGENDA. I'M SORRY. WERE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, WELL WE WILL GO AHEAD AND RECESS AND START THE REGULAR MEETING. AND ABOUT 50 SECONDS, THE TIME IS NOW EIGHT 49. SO WE WILL RECONVENE THE SPECIAL MEETING AND I WILL DO ANOTHER ROLL CALL VERY QUICKLY. UM, MAYOR PRO TEM PRESTON COUNCIL MEMBER EDWARDS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STERLING, PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER BONEY, RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER RUELAS, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER, EMORY AND INTERIM CITY MANAGER, BILL ATKINSON, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, GLEN MARTEL. YES. TO THE ATTORNEY. JOYCEE JAMO CITY, SECRETARY MARIA JACKSON, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, STACY WALKER AS A DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ODOR SPRIGS. OKAY. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS IN CITY, A CITY ENGINEER SHAWSHEE KUMAR. AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS ITEM AGENDA ITEM TWO 80. SO SASHA AND HIS CREW ARE PROBABLY NO LONGER ON THE CALL. IF ANYONE IS THERE, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND LET ME KNOW. OKAY. DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, JASON MANGUM PRESENT. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT I DID NOT CALL YOUR NAME? AND THIS IS FOR, WE ARE RECONVENING THE SPECIAL MEETING. OKAY. I BELIEVE WE ARE ON TO B. GO AHEAD, JASON, DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, ADDING CHAPTER 17 ARTS AND PUBLIC SPACES PROGRAM TO THE CITY CODE OF THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS, JASON, YOU'RE UP. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHAT WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PUBLIC ART. UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT GOT STARTED ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS PRETTY NEW TO THE CITY. AND AS WE LOOK AT THE ROLE OF PARKS AND RECREATION, WE REALLY LOOK AT, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE AND WHAT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THAT ADD QUALITY OF LIFE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR VISITORS AND PUBLIC ART IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE, I'VE WORKED ON IN OTHER CITIES THAT I'VE BEEN IN, UM, DEVELOPING PUBLIC ART PROGRAMS. UM, AND I'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO SEE HOW, UH, COMMUNITIES, UM, I IDENTITY CAN BE, UM, PORTRAYED THROUGH PUBLIC ART, UM, HOW IT FOSTERS COMMUNITY PRIDE, UM, A SENSE OF BELONGING, UM, AND JUST ADDS TO THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE. UH, WHEN WE FIRST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY WHEN WE FIRST GOT STARTED ON THIS, UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SOME CONTACTS IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY. UM, HERE IN HOUSTON, THE FIRST PEOPLE I REACHED OUT TO WAS, UH, ACTUALLY THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON. UM, I SPOKE WITH THEIR DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR ART AND SOCIAL ENGAGEMENT. CONSIDERING WE WERE A COMMUNITY. I THOUGHT WHAT A GREAT PLACE TO START. HE REALLY PROVIDED ME A, UM, A LIST OF RESOURCES OF PEOPLE IN HOUSTON. AND, UH, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH, UH, SEVERAL OF THEM. THE FIRST PEOPLE WE WORKED WITH WAS THE HOUSTON ARTS ALLIANCE. UM, I WORKED WITH THE DIRECTOR OF CIVIC, ART AND [00:45:01] DESIGN. HER NAME WAS SARAH, UM, TO GET A LOT OF REALLY GOOD RESOURCES AND IDEAS FOR, UH, STARTING THIS PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE REALIZED EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS WAS THE NEED FOR A ORDINANCE THAT HELPS GOVERN THIS. UH, AND SO WE STARTED WORKING WITH, UM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, THE TOURISM DEPARTMENT, AND THEN, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO REALLY TALK HOW, UH, PUBLIC ART CAN AFFECT THE DIFFERENT, UH, THE DIFFERENT AREAS IN THE CITY. UH, WE HELD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UM, PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS. UH, DURING THOSE MEETINGS WE HAD, UM, JUST ALL WE HAD ARTISTS, WE HAD ART EDUCATORS. UH, WE HAD ASPIRING ARTISTS AND JUST RESIDENTS WHO WERE INTERESTED IN ART AND PUBLIC ART. UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, UH, FEEDBACK FROM OUR RESIDENTS, UH, ON WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IN A PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM AND BETWEEN THE INFORMATION FROM THE HOUSTON ARTS LIONS, UM, THESE MEETINGS, UM, OTHER CITIES WHERE I'VE, UH, UH, IMPLEMENTED THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND THEN LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES. WE, WE DEVELOPED, UM, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS TODAY. UM, AFTER COMPLETING THIS, WE, WE DID SEND IT BACK TO THE HOUSTON ART ALLIANCE FOR SOME, UH, FEEDBACK. UH, THEY HAVE A NEW, UH, DIRECTOR OF CIVIC, ART AND DESIGN. UH, HIS, HIS NAME IS JIMMY AND JIMMY, UH, CASTILLO. AND, UH, HE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS. HE, HE, HE ACTUALLY, UM, PRAISE THE, THE, UM, THE DOCUMENT. AND, UH, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE, UM, UH, HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS PROGRAM OR OF THIS ORDINANCE. BASICALLY IT SETS UP AN ARTS COMMISSION THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT OF, UH, RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO, UM, THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE, UH, SOME ARTISTS AND ART EDUCATORS ON THERE THAT WILL HELP WITH THE, UM, THE, UH, HOW THIS, HOW THIS DIRECTION WILL GO, THE TYPE OF ART THAT WE WOULD, UM, THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT OR PURSUE, UH, HOW IT'S DISPLAYED. AND, AND, UH, SO I FOUND THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO GET ART PROFESSIONALS AND ARTISTS AND, UM, THAT TO HELP CURATE THE CITY'S PUBLIC ART COLLECTION, UM, AS IT, IT TAKES ESSENTIALLY AN INDEPENDENT, UH, GROUP OF PEOPLE IN KIND OF A GROUP OF EXPERTS TO HELP US, UM, TO HELP US GUIDE THE PROGRAM. UH, THE REASON I FIND THIS SO HELPFUL IS BECAUSE, UM, ART CAN SOMETIMES BE, BE POLARIZING. AND, UH, I SOMETIMES SAY A LITTLE BIT TONGUE IN CHEEK THAT IF YOU PUT UP A PIECE OF PUBLIC ART AND HALF THE HALF, THE RESIDENTS AREN'T UPSET WITH YOU, THEN, THEN YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB. UM, WE, WE LIKE TO SEE THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, ART IS MEANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PUSH BOUNDARIES SOMETIMES. AND, AND, UH, SO, SO WHAT, WHAT, UH, A PUBLIC SCULPTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEBODY MIGHT LOVE SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT HATE, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO HAVE THIS INDEPENDENT, THIS ARTS COMMISSION IN PLACE. UM, THE ORDINANCE, UH, FOCUSES ON, UH, POTENTIAL WAYS OF FUNDING. UH, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT, UM, UH, CURATING ART AND THEN IN THE, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE A PIECE OF ART, HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN? UH, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR WE CAN DISCUSS, UH, ANY PROS AND CONS OF THIS, UH, THIS PROGRAM, AND WE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES AS YOU DEEM NECESSARY. UM, AND WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE FROM THERE. SO THIS IS MAYOR POOL. THANK YOU, JASON. VERY MUCH. UM, I ACTUALLY WAS THE LIAISON AT THE CITY OF HOUSTON FOR ALL THEIR PUBLIC ART. SO, UM, I JUST REALLY HAVE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WE HAD A LOT OF WAS UNREFERENCED TO MAINTENANCE. SO CAN YOU BRIEFLY JUST WALK US THROUGH, UM, THE MAINTENANCE COMPONENT OF THE ART, UM, AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK? YEAH. UM, AND, AND COMING FROM HAVING, HAVING DONE THIS IN OTHER CITIES, I CAN, I CAN ECHO THAT. THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS, IS A CHALLENGE. AND, UM, SO SECTION 17.4, UH, 17 DASH 43 IN THE ORDINANCE TALKS ABOUT, UM, THE MAINTENANCE THAT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE, THE ARTS ARTS COMMISSION WOULD MAKE AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF, OF THE CITY'S ART COLLECTION. THE LAST THING WE WANT IS FOR SOMETHING TO BECOME DILAPIDATED AND, AND NOT BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT WOULD COME INTO COME INTO PLAY WHEN SELECTING ARTISTS, HOW DURABLE [00:50:01] IS, IS A PIECE OF ART. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL ALWAYS BE WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SPACES AND PUBLIC ART IS HOW DURABLE IT'S SOMETHING IS. UM, BUT BASICALLY THE WAY WE HAVE IT WRITTEN IS THAT, AND, AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, UM, INTERNALLY WITH INTERNAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID IN A PREVIOUS CITY IS, UM, I WOULD HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE ACTUAL ARTIST, IF THE ARTIST WAS LOCAL, UM, THEY WANT THEIR, THEY WANT THEIR ART TO BE, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT IT TO REPRESENT THEM. AND SO, UM, THEY WOULD USUALLY, UH, THEY, THEY WOULD USUALLY, UH, AGREE TO, TO DO MAINTENANCE OR PROVIDE, UH, THINGS LIKE PAINT IF IT NEEDED TO BE PAINTED OR THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, BUT IN OUR, IN THE WAY WE HAVE IT WRITTEN IN THE ORDINANCE IS BASICALLY WHEREVER, WHEREVER THE PIECE OF ART IS. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A PIECE OF A PUBLIC ART IN A PARK, UM, THEN IT WILL BECOME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. UM, THAT ROUTINE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE THINGS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, CLEANING OR, UM, MANAGING VEGETATION AROUND, AROUND THAT PIECE OF PART. UM, AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE PUT IN THAT, UH, SCULPTURE, UM, THE PURSUIT OF YOUR PASSION SCULPTURE, AND, AND IT'S THE PARKS DEPARTMENTS, UH, IT'S ON PARKS PROPERTY, AND IT'S A PARKS DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS MOWED AROUND THERE AND TRIMMED, AND THAT THE TREES AREN'T OVERGROWING, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE, THE ARTIST TO, UH, HAVE A, UH, UM, SOME SORT OF A LETTER OF UNDERSTANDING WHATEVER HE, HE, HE WANTS TO CONTINUE TO COME OUT AND MAINTAIN IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S LOOKING NICE. AND SO, UM, WE'LL WORKING ON THAT WITH HIM. UM, ANYTHING THAT'S MAJOR, SO ANYTHING MINOR WOULD BE THE DEPARTMENTS, UM, RESPONSIBILITY, ANYTHING MAJOR, UM, WOULD GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM AND BE AN INEXPENSIVE, THE PUBLIC ART FUND. UM, THAT FUND THERE'S SOME AREAS, HOW WOULD WE FUND IT FOR EXAMPLE, HOT TAX, UM, OR, UM, THE ASSOCIATED, UM, FUNDING THAT COMES FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS. UM, AND THEN THAT WORK WOULD BE DONE, UM, WITH, UH, IT WOULD BE OVERSEEN BY, BY THE, UM, PUBLIC ART ADMINISTRATOR, WHOEVER, WHOEVER THE CITY MANAGER, UM, UH, POINTS TO, TO DO THAT. UM, SO BASICALLY THAT'S KINDA HOW WE HAVE MAINTENANCE SET UP, UM, THAT I FOUND IN MY, IN MY, UM, IN MY PAST LIVES THAT HAVING, HAVING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ARTIST, UM, UH, IS, IS THE BEST WAY TO GO BECAUSE THEY, THEY WANT THEMSELVES REPRESENTED. UM, AND THAT WOULD SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, DEPENDING ON THE ARTIST AND THE PIECE OF ART, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. YEAH. AND, AND ARE WE ABLE TO GET, I GUESS, AND I, I COMPLETELY AGREE, UM, HAVING THE ARTISTS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE AND, UH, IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING OF COURSE GOING INTO OUR PERMANENT COLLECTION, UM, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD WERE GRAFFITI, A LOT PEOPLE WOULD GO OUT AND THEY WOULD ACTUALLY PAINT GRAFFITI ONTO THE STATUES, UH, PAINT GRAFFITI ONTO THE MURALS, WHATEVER IT MAY, WELL, YOU CAN'T JUST GO OUT AND PRESSURE WASH THEM. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT. UM, YOU HAD TO BRING THE, THE HOUSTON ART ALLIANCE HAD TO BRING SPECIAL PEOPLE IN TO ACTUALLY CLEAN THOSE STATUES, UM, TO ACTUALLY REPAINT OR TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, A WATERFALL THAT HAD A STATUTE IN IT, THERE WAS SPECIAL PLASTER AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO I GUESS WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO BE BUDGETED FROM HOT TAX FUNDS, HOW THIS MAINTENANCE COMPONENT REALLY WILL WORK. I KNOW LIKE THE CITY OF HOUSTON, THEY, THEY CONTRACTED WITH THE HOUSTON ART ALLIANCE TO DO THE MAINTENANCE. SO THEY HAVE THEIR PEOPLE OR EXPERTS IN HOUSE WHO KNEW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO. WE COULDN'T JUST SEND OUR STAFF OUT, UH, OUR PARKS PEOPLE OUT TO DO THE MAINTENANCE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE OR YOU CAN RUN THE ART. SO I GUESS THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THE ART PROGRAM. I AM ABSOLUTELY ON BOARD. I SUPPORTED, I'VE BEEN WANTING, UM, PUBLIC ART FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. SO I'M HAPPY WE'VE GOTTEN THIS FAR. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO REALLY, REALLY UNDERSTAND AND HAVE KIND OF A BUDGET SET ASIDE FOR MAINTENANCE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC ART DOESN'T TURN INTO A EYESORE IN THE END. YEAH. I, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE AND, AND LUCKILY WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN LUCKY HERE IN MISSOURI CITY. WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE TYPES [00:55:01] OF, UH, ISSUES WITH GRAFFITI ON OUR, ON OUR, UM, A COUPLE OF PIECES OF PUBLIC ART, PUBLIC SCULPTURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, RECOGNIZING THAT IS, THAT COULD BE A CHALLENGE, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, IN A CITY LIKE HOUSTON, WHERE YOU HAVE PUBLIC ART FROM ARTISTS, FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, WORKING WITH THOSE, WORKING WITH THOSE ARTISTS IS NOT, IS NOT A REALITY. UM, AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND HAVE SOME INTERNAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, UH, RIGHT NOW ALL OF OUR PUBLIC ART, LOCAL, LOCAL ARTISTS. AND SO WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH THOSE ARTISTS AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. UM, WE WORKED WITH THE ARTISTS, UM, TO, UM, TO GET PAINT COLORS AND PAINT SCHEMES TO, TO IF WE NEEDED TO TOUCH UP SOMETHING. UM, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. SOME OF THIS, SOME OF THIS ART CAN BE VERY, UM, SPECIALIZED. UM, AND, AND WE WOULDN'T, WE DEFINITELY WOULDN'T WANT TO BE, UH, DOING THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE WAY IT'S WORDED IN THAT ORDINANCE IS THAT, UM, NO MAINTENANCE REPAIR OR WORK CAN BE DONE OTHER THAN THAT ROUTINE MAINTENANCE WITHOUT THE PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE ADMINISTRATOR. SO WE HAVE ONE PERSON IN THE CITY THAT WILL BE THE PUBLIC ART EXPERT THAT WILL, UM, BE ABLE TO AUTHORIZE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPES OF MAINTENANCE, WHAT TYPES OF REPAIRS WILL BE MADE IF WE NEED TO, UH, CONTRACT WITH AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THE SHIFT IN OUR LIVES. IF WE HAVE THE ARTIST WHO IS LOCAL, OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, WE'VE DONE, UH, IN THE PAST OURSELVES, UH, ANOTHER THING THAT WE CAN DO AS A SUBURBAN, UM, COMMUNITY, WHICH HAS WORKED WELL IN OTHER CITIES THAT I'VE LIVED IN, ESPECIALLY, UM, ONE PARTICULAR CITY IS, IS, UH, HAVING A, UM, UM, A TEMPORARY ART INSTALLATIONS. UH, THIS IS A REALLY GREAT WAY TO RECOGNIZE LOCAL ARTISTS, LOCAL, TEXAS ARTISTS, UM, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO DO SCULPTURE THAT WANTS THEIR WORK, UM, TO BE OUT THERE. IT'S A LOT CHEAPER TO ACQUIRE THAT ART, UM, KEEPING IT FOR A YEAR OR SIX MONTHS OR A SUMMER OR WHATEVER, UM, THE PROGRAM IS. AND THEN, UM, IF IT BECOMES DAMAGED OR IF IT BECOMES, UM, A NUISANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN, UM, THEY JUST COME AND PICK IT UP AND, AND, UH, EITHER REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING OR, OR JUST REMOVE IT FROM THE PREMISES. SO THERE'S A LOT OF COOL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH PUBLIC ART, UM, THAT CAN HELP, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS OR, UM, WORK AROUND THEM. SO THEY DON'T BECOME A, AN ISSUE FOR SURE. AND WHAT IS YOUR BUDGET REQUEST? UM, RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE THERE'S A, THERE'S A BUDGETED AMOUNT WITHIN THE HOT FUNDS. UM, AND I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS $50,000 THIS YEAR. I'M SORRY. OKAY. I'M, UH, I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW. I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, UM, HAS NOT BEEN, HADN'T BEEN TOUCHED YET THIS YEAR. UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR PUBLIC ART BILL. ARE YOU THERE, BILL? YES. MA'AM. ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR OUR PUBLIC ART? I, I DO NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND I WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT AND WE CAN, UH, REPORT BACK TO COUNSELING. OKAY. UM, YEAH. CAN Y'ALL LOOK INTO THAT AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL AND, AND THEN IN THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE, UM, I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S SOMEONE IN UNTIL WE CAN REALLY, I GUESS, PULL THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER HOLISTICALLY, IF ANY ART IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO MAINTAIN THE CITY, MEANING THAT THE ARTIST ISN'T GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN. UM, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR US TO BASICALLY BE ADVISED OF WHAT THAT COST IS GOING TO BE. UM, SO, SO CLARIFY THAT FOR ME. AND YOU WANT THAT IN THE ORDINANCE. YOU WANT US TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE ORDINANCE ON THAT? YES. YES. IF YOU CAN PUT THAT IN THE ORDINANCE, UM, AND THAT'S THAT'S IF THE ARTIST ISN'T MAINTAINING, SO IF THE ARTIST IS MAINTAINING, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO IT'S LEFT THE COMMITTEE, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE FUNDS REQUESTED, UM, FROM THE CITY MAINTAINING ART, A PIECE OF PUBLIC ART, I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE MADE AWARE. YEAH. AND TYPICALLY THEY CAN, I'M SORRY. AND TYPICALLY THEY CAN GIVE YOU A MAINTENANCE PLAN. THE HOUSTON ART ALLIANCE CAN DRAW UP A MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR YOU ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST A YEARLY. YEAH. OKAY. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, WHEN WE ACQUIRE A PIECE OF ART, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE REGULAR CITY MAINTENANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW THAT UPFRONT. YEAH. UM, OKAY. SO, SO THAT, THAT, YEAH, I ABSOLUTELY, I THAT'S CLEAR. YES, WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS [01:00:01] FOR JASON? YES. MAYOR THIS WAS COUNCIL MEMBER WAS, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JASON, JASON, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. BUT I HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION EARLIER THAT YOU STATED THAT YOU GAVE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TYPE OF ART THEY WANTED TO SEE THAT YOU PLEASE SHARE THAT WITH US. UM, WE HAD, WE HAD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS TO JUST DISCUSS THE, THE NATURE OF THIS PROGRAM. UM, AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS WE DID ASK THEM WHAT TYPE OF ART THEY WANT TO SEE. UM, THERE IS A DESIRE FOR SOME MURALS, UM, PUBLIC SCULPTURES, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT, THAT CAME UP THE MOST IN OUR, UM, IN OUR CONVERSATIONS. UM, WE, WHEN, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE'RE TALKING MOSTLY ABOUT, UM, OUTSIDE ART, UM, THAT TYPE OF PUBLIC ART, NOT, OR NOT, UM, IN INDOOR ART INSTALLATIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO MURALS AND PUBLIC SCULPTURES WERE THE ONES THAT, UH, CAME UP, UM, THE MOST AND FOR MURALS, DO WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR INSTALLATION? MMM. BECAUSE MURALS ARE HOT SPOTS FOR TAGGING. UM, YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE, UM, A PROCESS ON THAT, UH, IN THE ORDINANCE FOR HOW IT WOULD BE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A, UM, UH, AN OPERATIONS THING. UH, HOWEVER, WHEN I DID TALK TO THE, UM, UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON, THERE'S A COUPLE OF REALLY GOOD ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAS, UH, HERE IN HOUSTON THAT HAVE A REALLY GOOD PROPOSAL PROCESS. UM, THOSE PROCESSES THAT ARE ARTIST DRIVEN, UH, AND THEY USE, THEY INCLUDE THINGS FOR LARGER HALL WALL MURALS. UM, AND SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD PROBABLY, UM, WORK WITH SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE DONE THAT AND HAVE A GOOD PROCESS FOR THAT. UM, AND, UM, BEFORE WE DID ANY KIND OF REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR, UM, UH, A WALL MURAL, IF WE'RE DOING A WALL MURAL, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, JUST HAND SOMEONE A PAINTBRUSH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO, UM, AS, UH, AN RFP. UM, HOPEFULLY, I MEAN, HOUSTON IS, IS, UM, JUST, UH, A WATERPROOF PLACE FOR, FOR MURALS AND THAT TYPE OF, UM, PUBLIC ART AND, UM, LOVED TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE. UM, BEING THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LOCAL ARTISTS THAT DO, THAT'D BE A GREAT, UH, GREAT WAY AGAIN, TO HAVE THE ARTISTS IN ON, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT MAINTENANCE AND, UH, THE CARETAKING OF THOSE, OF THOSE PIECES OF ART. AM I STILL ON? YES, YOU ARE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING. JASON, THIS WAS COUNCIL MEMBER EDUARDO. I WAS ALSO CONCERNED. UM, WELL, THE COST OF THE MOWING AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE LANDSCAPE, IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR SCULPTURE THAT'S INCLUDED INTO THIS, UM, ORDINANCE, WILL THAT BE INCLUDED AS WELL? UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PARKS BUDGET, NOT THE PUBLIC ART BUDGET, BUT, UM, UM, THAT THE, ANY, ANY KIND OF SPECIALIST, UH, YOU KNOW, MOWING AROUND SOMETHING OR, YOU KNOW, UH, TRIMMING AROUND SOMETHING THAT, THAT COST IS NEGLIGIBLE AND WOULDN'T BE, UM, ANYTHING THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR, OUR BUDGETS THAT WE COULD COULDN'T DO ALREADY. AND, UH, JUST FYI WITH THE FUNERALS AND THE CITY OF HOUSTON, WE STOPPED YEAR AND A HALF AGO. UM, THEY ALLOW MURALS ONLY, UH, BY PUTTING THEM ON PLYWOOD. YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO DO PERMANENT MURALS ANYMORE. CAUSE THERE WAS SO MANY ISSUES WITH THEM, UH, WITH THE TAGGING, THE PAINT FADING, UH, THEY BECAME EYESORES, THE COMMUNITY STARTED COMPLAINING OF COURSE, OR JUST KIND OF FYI LOOK INTO THAT IN REFERENCE TO THE, UH, INSTALLATION, UM, ON THEM GOING ON WALLS AND THAT TYPE OF THING. UH, THEY ACTUALLY, LIKE I SAID, HAD THEM START PUTTING THEM ON PLYWOOD THAT YOU COULD THEN PUT ON THE SIDE OF A BUILDING, UM, JUST OUT OF THE HEADACHE OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN A MURAL. SO, UH, JUST LOOK INTO THAT, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE THAT, THAT INFORMATION ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE ON, UH, MAKING SURE THAT ANYTHING, THAT [01:05:01] THE CITY'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT IT COMES TO COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN, UM, WE CAN KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST LONG STORY SHORT. UM, AND THEN THAT'S IT FOR ME. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR JASON? YEAH. AMAR FOR THIS AS COUNCILMAN EMORY. UH HUH. UH, QUESTION IS, UH, THE MURALS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL BOXES IS THAT COVER VENDOR, THIS ORDINANCE, OR, UH, WHAT ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE MAINTAINED AND THAT THEY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN HAVE THEM PUT UNDER THERE. I MEAN, THIS, THIS ORDINANCE WASN'T IN PLACE, SO THIS IS A NEW ORDINANCE. SO, UM, JASON, I GUESS YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY? UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT WASN'T, UM, PART OF OUR CONSIDERATIONS IN, UM, IN DEVELOPING THIS MOST OF, MOST OF THOSE, WELL, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, IT LOOKED LIKE MOST OF THOSE ARE DESIGNED AND THEN PUT ON WITH SOME SORT OF A DECAL OR STICKER. SO IT'S, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE CITIES WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ARTISTS COME IN AND PAINT THEM AND DO IT. UM, SO, SO, UM, I, IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T REALLY, UM, IT WASN'T REALLY INCLUDED AS, AS PART OF THIS, BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY, UM, KIND OF BRING IT IN, BRING IT IN UNDER THIS, THIS GENERAL UMBRELLA. OKAY. WELL JUST THE ONE, THE ONE THING THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO, I THINK MAINTAIN IS, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE KEPT, UM, UH, LEGIBLE AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S BEEN ANY TAGGING ON ANY OF THEM, BUT, UH, TO ME THAT'S A PART OF OUR ARTWORK. AND, UH, UH, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, UH, US ADDRESS THAT IN THE YARD SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THOSE MAINTAINED AND, UH, TO PRODUCE THE EFFECT THAT WE WANTED IT TO PRODUCE. THANK YOU. COMPLETELY AGREE. UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST A LITTLE HISTORY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME IN AND IS UNDER THE, OR CAME IN AND UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. AND, UH, JUST A SUGGESTION IS THAT, UH, AND ALSO THEY WOULD ASK FROM TIME TO TIME FOR A CONTESTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE RUN THROUGH THE SAME PROGRAM AS ANY OTHER ARTS HAS CHOSEN FOR THE CITY AS WELL. SO THAT, THAT ART COMMITTEE, OR WHOEVER YOU SET UP, UH, HAD THAT RATHER THAN HAVING DIFFERENT PROGRAMS IN DIFFERENT AREAS THAT MAY CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER AND NOT BE CONSISTENT. OKAY. SO IF JASON, WE CAN GET YOU TO ADD THAT INTO YOUR PROGRAM. MMM. AND IT'S MORE SO WITH THOSE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE SELECTION AND THEN AS WELL AS WHEN THEY START TO FADE AND PEEL OFF, THEY ARE STICKERS MMM. ADHESIVE THAT IS BEING STUCK THERE. SO, UH, ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT ALSO, THAT WOULD BE, YEAH, I THINK PROBABLY ONE OF THE EASIEST WAY. I MEAN, WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT WITH LEGAL, BUT WE CAN JUST ADD THE PUBLIC ART BOXES AS ONE OF THE DEFINITIONS. AND THEN CAUSE UNDER THE MAINTENANCE, IT SAYS THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION WILL DO AN ANNUAL, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ANNUAL INSPECTION OF THE, OF PUBLIC ART. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT FOR SURE. OKAY. SO THIS IS JOYCE. HOW DO YOU BE INCLUDED UNDER THE CURRENT DEFINITION OF ARTWORK OR FINE ART IN THE PROPOSAL? OKAY. WELL I, OKAY. I JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE, UM, THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. UM, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT MASS PRODUCED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED ART, BUT, UH, I'D HAVE TO, UH, LOOK AT THE DEFINITIONS AGAIN. AND I BELIEVE BEFORE WE, UM, WE HAVE A RESIDENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IF THERE ARE NO MORE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR JASON FROM COUNCIL WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. PRESTON. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, JASON, BRIEFLY, IF YOU COULD JUST, ONCE AGAIN, JUST GO OVER THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THAT YOU GOT ON THIS, ON THIS DEAL. YEAH. UM, WE HAD, UH, TWO, TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, UM, THAT, THAT, UM, UH, HAD RESIDENTS HAD, UH, ARTISTS, OUR EDUCATORS, UM, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST INTERESTED IN POEMS LIKE ART. UM, WE HAD SOME, SOME, UH, BOTH OF THOSE WERE FACILITATED BY, UH, KATHLEEN WHEN SHE WAS HERE. UM, WE GOT INFORMATION ON WHAT PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE. UM, WE WANTED TO KNOW IF PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED [01:10:01] IN AN ARTS COMMISSION AND SERVING ON AN ARTS COMMISSION, UM, AND, AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD LOOK LIKE. UH, WE GOT INFORMATION ON, UM, WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSION SHOULD BE MADE UP OF, OF, UH, UH, SHOULD IT, SHOULD IT BE ALL RESIDENTS, SHOULD IT BE ALL ARTISTS OR ART EDUCATORS OR A MIXTURE OF, UM, UH, OF THE, OF ALL OF THE ABOVE. AND SO THAT WAS SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WHAT TYPES OF ART DO YOU WANT TO SEE IN MISSOURI CITY? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AND, AND, AND WHAT TYPES OF ART WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE? SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE GIST OF, UM, OF THOSE MEETINGS. UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS MORE OF JUST A BIG DISCUSSION AND PEOPLE SHARING. AND THEN, UM, WE KIND OF SYNTHESIZE THAT AND THEN INVITED PEOPLE BACK AND, UM, AND KIND OF PRESENTED WHAT OUR FINDINGS WERE WITH SOME OF OUR BEST PRACTICES AND THEN GOT ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AFTER THAT. GREAT. WELL, WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE DISSIPATED, HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ATTENDED I'M OF THE OPINION? I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE OF US TO, UM, CIRCLE BACK AROUND WITH THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW PEOPLE ARE AT HOME THESE DAYS, THEY'RE ENGAGED, THEY'RE READING THINGS ONLINE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO DEEP FOR US, MAYBE SOME KIND OF CITIZEN SURVEY OUT FOR USE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS OR HOA CONTEXT. SHOULD WE GET THIS OUT TO RESIDENTS? BECAUSE ONE THING I DO NOT WANT TO ASK IS PEOPLE APPROACH US SAYING, YOU KNOW, I HAD NO OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE MY INPUT. AND THOUGH I KNOW TWO MEETINGS WERE HELD, SEEMED LIKE IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOME TIME AGO, AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HIT THE MARK ON REACHING OUT TO RESIDENTS AND GIVING THEM A, A TRUE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THEIR, UM, FEEDBACK AND OPINION, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT AS WE COMMIT TO WHAT KIND OF PART WE WANT TO INCLUDE. SO WHAT TYPES OF QUESTIONS WOULD YOU LIKE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OUR ORDINANCES IN THE END, THE ELEMENTS WITHIN THE ORDINANCE, OR JUST IN GENERAL, GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT ART, PUBLIC ART? UH, FOR ME PRIMARILY, I THINK THE TYPES OF ART, UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. UM, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, RIGHT. THAT WE, UM, HIT THE MARK ON GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE RESIDENTS. THAT WAY THEY CAN GIVE US FEEDBACK. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER, BONNIE, I THINK YOU SAID YOU HAD A QUESTION. YEAH, I JUST, IT WAS IN RELATION TO THE ARTS COMMISSION. I NOTICED THAT IT STATED THAT JUNE 30TH WAS THE DATE, UH, THAT THESE TERMS, UH, THESE ODD A YEAR TERMS WOULD BE EXPIRING. AND SO, BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT NOW, JUNE 15TH, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE SEEKING TO TRY TO, AFTER THIS ORDINANCE HAS PASSED SEEKING TO, UH, TO ACTUALLY, UH, FILL THESE SEATS FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION? WELL, UM, I'M NOT, I'M NOT IN ANY RUSH TO, UM, TO PUSH THIS THROUGH JUST TO HIT A DATE DEADLINE, I THINK W UH, MMM, MMM. MAYOR PRO TEM PRECEDENT IS RIGHT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, THAT WE DO GET IT RIGHT, AND THAT EVERYBODY FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH OUR ORDINANCE AND OUR PROCESS. UM, SO I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER, WHENEVER, UM, WE GET THIS DONE AND IT GETS APPROVED AND EVERYONE FEELS COMFORTABLE AND, UH, ABOUT IT, THEN, THEN WE WOULD START OUR RECRUITMENT PROCESS. UM, SO REGARDLESS OF SOMEONE'S FIRST TERM WAS A LITTLE BIT SHORT OR A LITTLE BIT LONG OR WHATEVER WE CAN DO. UH, HOWEVER, HOWEVER, WE DEAL WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK, UH, WOULD WANT TO MMM. UM, RUSHED THROUGH JUST TO GET SOME PEOPLE ON, ON THE, ON THE COMMISSION. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JASON BEFORE I LET A BUTTON SNYDER SPEAK? ALRIGHTY. UM, YEAH. DOUG, IT'S MR. SNYDER THERE? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. I CAN HEAR YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. OKAY. MY NAME IS BUDDY SNYDER. I RESIDED AT 26 OH TWO CREEK WAY CIRCLE, MISSOURI CITY. AND I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, A LONGER TENURE IN CITY COUNCIL. PEOPLE KNOW THAT I'VE LONG SOUGHT THE DEVELOPMENT AND ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE. AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE FINALLY CLOSE FOR AN ACCIDENT, [01:15:01] BUT I'M HEARING TONIGHT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. TWO SPECIFIC POINTS EXPRESS. MY CONCERNS. IN FACT, THIS APPOINTMENT WITH THE WORDING IS NOT THE INTENT TO SPECIFIC STATEMENTS WITHIN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. UM, I'M HERE TO HAVE YOU CONSIDER THE REVISION OR ELIMINATION OF THESE THINGS BEFORE YOU ENACT THINGS SPECIFICALLY. NOW THE NATIONS SEE OF AN ARTIST. THE ARTIST READS THAT THAT PERSON, IF YOU WILL, SHOULD BE A PRACTITIONER IN VISUAL OR PERFORMING ARTS RECOGNIZED BY CRITICS AND PEERS AS A PROFESSIONAL WITH THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE FINE ART. I SUGGEST WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF TALENTED MEN AND WOMEN ARE FULLY CAPABLE AND WILLING TO PRODUCE IN FACT, DONATE PUBLIC ART, BUT THEY'RE ARE ELIMINATED. IF THAT'S THE DEFINITION, SOLE DEFINITION OF AN ARTIST. I ALSO HAVE THEM CONSIDER THAT I CAN'T FIND THAT DEFINITION. OH, AN ARTIST MEET ANYWHERE, ANYWHERE AT ALL. I HAVE LOOKED SPECIFICALLY IN THE SECOND ONE IS IN SECTION 17 DASH 31. UM, THE VALMONT CRITERIA, PAGE SIX, IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THEY SHOULD BE THE ART SHOULD BE OF THE HIGHEST AND AESTHETIC AND ENDURING VALUE. OKAY. THEY PUT SUCH REQUIREMENTS UPON IT THAT THAT ARTIST MUST HAVE NECESSARY EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH ARTS COMMISSIONS PROJECTS RELATED TO ARTS AND PUBLIC SPACES AND TALENT AND DETERMINED BY PEERS IN HIS FIELD. I, THAT WAS A HIGHLY CONSTRICTED. YEAH. AND THEN MARRIAGE RECONSIDERATION. OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ART COMMISSION ITSELF IS CONCERNED, I'M CURIOUS AS TO A POSSIBLE TARGETED DATE FOR COMMISSION AND ENACTMENT, I'VE MET AFTER THIS PROJECT ALMOST A YEAR AND I WOULD FINALLY CONCLUDE BY SAYING IF THERE'S A COMMISSION I'M VERY MUCH INTERESTED AND WOULD BE HONORED TO HAVE BE CONSIDERED FOR A NOMINATION ON THAT COMMISSION AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. SNYDER. WELCOME. YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MAYOR. THIS IS JASON. GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA THAT WE'D INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS SURVEY. UM, AS MERE PROTON SUGGESTED, I DIDN'T HEAR MENTIONED THAT YOU WILL COLLABORATE WITH COMMUNICATIONS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IF YOU DO SO, SO WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE LARGER CAPACITY. OH YES. MA'AM. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL MY TOP OF MY LIST OF THINGS TO DO TOMORROW IS TO CALL STACY. SO, UM, TO, TO DISCUSS THIS CAUSE WE, WE WOULD LOVE TO GET, UM, GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF THE RIGHT WAY. OKAY. AND ONE MORE THING. AND IF YOU CAN, UM, IN YOUR EMAIL, ONCE YOU DO COLLAB WITH HER AND SEND OUT THE PROCESS OF HOW YOU PLAN TO DO THAT AND WHEN WE WILL BE ACTUALLY CONDUCTED, OKAY, WELL, JASON, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I BEEN WANTING PUBLIC ART FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. SO THANK YOU FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD. I THINK IT DOES HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO WORK OUT, BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH GETTING IT DONE. UM, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS SET UP AND GET THOSE CHANGES THAT COUNCIL HAS RECOMMENDED, UM, INTO THE ORDINANCE AND THEN GET PUBLIC COMMENTS, COMMENTS ON IT. SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT FORWARD. THAT'D BE GREAT. YES, MA'AM THE MAYOR. THE SPILL, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL HAVE JASON PUT TOGETHER A KIND OF TIMELINE OF THINGS, UH, ACTIONS AND THINGS. THAT WAY WE CAN, UH, PLAY INFORM AND YOU CAN HAVE GET THEM ON CALENDARS AND GET THEM OUT TO THE PUBLIC AS Y'ALL HAD MENTIONED. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JASON? [01:20:01] OKAY. ALRIGHTY, JASON. UM, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, SO YEAH. OKAY. WELL, WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. CONSIDER AND DISCUSS THE MISSOURI CITY PARKS FOUNDATION MEMBER APPOINTMENTS. MARIA. YES. HI MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS MARIA. UM, DURING THE JUNE 8TH, A SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT I REACH OUT TO MR. JAMES DAVIDSON AND MS. DEBBIE, UH, TONIC TO DETERMINE IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE MISSOURI CITY PARKS FOUNDATION, AS THEY BOTH SUBMITTED CANADA APPLICATIONS TO SERVE OTHER BOARDS, BOTH OF THEM WERE CONTACTED AND BOTH OF THEM AGREED TO SERVE THE BOARD, UH, SHOULD COUNCIL WISH TO RE TO APPOINT THEM TO THE MISSOURI CITY PARKS FOUNDATION. IS THERE A MOTION, A MOTION TO APPOINT MR. DAVIDSON AND MS. PAWNEE, THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER PRESTON MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO THE SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHTY. OCEAN PREMIER PROTEIN, PRESTON COUNCIL MEMBER AT WORKS. COUNCIL MEMBERS STERLING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BONEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RUELAS MADE THE SECOND AND COUNCIL MEMBER EMORY. YES. AND THIS IS METAPHOR. YES. MOTION PASSES CONSIDER AND DISCUSS THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS. IE JOYCE, GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS ITEMS SIMPLY PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH THE OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE CERTAIN INITIAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CITY IS GOVERNED BY A MUNICIPAL CHARTER, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE CONSTITUTION FOR THE CITY. THE CHARTER WAS LAST REVIEWED IN 2016 AND AMENDMENTS WERE LAST MAZE. AFTER AN ELECTION HELD IN 2017, YOU ALL APPOINTED A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION LAST MONDAY ON JUNE 8TH, 2020. THAT COMMISSION WILL MEET FROM NOW UNTIL ABOUT DECEMBER 8TH. AT WHICH TIME THEY WILL PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH A REPORT. YOU ALL MAY, AT THIS TIME PROVIDE INITIAL ITEMS FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION THAT, BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU MAY ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ITEMS FOR A POTENTIAL CHARTER ELECTION AFTER YOU RECEIVED THE REPORT. OKAY. SO SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS MORE ORDERLY. CAN WE GET THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU? YOU CAN BRING THEM BACK TO COUNCIL FOR US TO DISCUSS THEM IN A WORKSHOP. UM, YEAH, SO THAT, WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE PEOPLE HAVE SEVERAL, OR LET ME NOT SAY I'M SURE, BUT THERE PEOPLE MAY HAVE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS OR COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY HAVE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM ALL KIND OF ORDERLY AND THEN YOU CAN PRESENT THEM TO US ON WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. AND COUNCIL CAN VOTE ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MOVE THEM. I, YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY, BUT YOU ALL CAN ALSO DO THAT AFTER YOU RECEIVED THE REPORT AS WELL. UM, WHAT I CAN DO IS A SCHEDULE, UM, OR ASKED TO BE PLACED ON THE JULY SIX. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE DATE OF THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY. AND THEN AT THAT TIME COLLECT YOUR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN AT THE MEETING AFTER THAT, OR FOLLOWING THAT, THAT PRESENTED AGAIN SO THAT YOU ALL CAN KIND OF CONSIDER SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS BEFORE PRESENTING THOSE THINGS TO THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, ME JOYCE, UH, THIS COUNSELOR AND EMORY, I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WILL PUT TOGETHER A, A LIST OF THOSE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE REVIEWED BASED ON NEW, UH, STATE LEGISLATION. YES, SIR. BUT I WILL SAY THAT AT THIS TIME, THE CHARTER IS COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW. AS YOU MAY RECALL, BACK IN 2012, THE CITY UNDERWENT A MAJOR REVIEW OF THE CHARTER AND MADE MOST OF THOSE STATE LAW CHANGES THAT IMPACTED THE CHARTER AT THE TIME. THEY'RE NOT ANY, THERE ARE NOT ANY STATE LAW ITEMS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING. I DO HAVE A FEW REQUESTS FROM STAFF MEMBERS, WHICH I CAN ALSO PRESENT AT THE JULY 6TH MEETING OR, OR THE FOLLOWING MEETING WHEN I HAVE THAT FREE ONES COMMENTS. UM, BUT AT THIS TIME THERE AREN'T ANY STATE LAW ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED. OKAY. I WAS UNDER, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME THAT WERE JUST RECENTLY ENACTED THAT WERE HAVING AN IMPACT, BUT I KNOW IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, THAT'S A, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY JOYS, CAN YOU SEND US A TIMELINE OF DATES SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON WHEN WE NEED TO GET THINGS TO YOU? [01:25:01] UM, SURE. CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY, AS YOU ALL RECALL, THIS IS A COMPACT, VERY TIGHT SCHEDULE FOR THE COMMISSION. YEAH. SO IF YOU CAN GET A TIMELINE OUT TO US SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KIND OF CAN SEE WHEN WE NEED TO GET CERTAIN THINGS IN. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I WILL DO THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WHERE HE JOYCE? OKAY. ALRIGHTY. I THINK THAT IS, DO WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION JOYCE? WE DO. AND IT'LL BE SHORT. OKAY. UH, THE [3. CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION] TIME IS NOW NINE 33. UH, THE COUNCIL WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE, FIVE, 1.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. SO WE WILL WAIT FOR DOUG TO PUT US IN OUR PRIVATE MEETING ROOM. ALRIGHTY. WE WILL. THE TIME IS NOW NINE 44. WE WILL RECONVENE BACK INTO OUR SPECIAL MEETING. IF THERE IS [5. ADJOURN] NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE ARE JOURN GOODNIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.