* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. OKAY, THANK YOU. [00:00:01] YEAH. [CALL TO ORDER] GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. WELCOME TO THE MISSOURI CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. THE MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER. I'M GOING TO START OFF TONIGHT WITH A ROLL CALL PLEASE. OF THE COMMISSIONERS. IF YOU WAS SIGNIFIED BY SAYING AYE, IF I MEAN PRESENT, IF YOU WERE HERE, COMMISSIONER BAILEY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRIGHTWELL. YEAH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HANEY. I KNOW HE'S HERE. I SAW HIM. OKAY, WELL MAYBE NOT COMMISSIONER RASMUS. OKAY. MAYBE NOT COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LUCAS PRESENT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SILVA. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER OVERTON PRESENT. THANK YOU. AND MYSELF, SANDY BROWN. MARSHALL. WE ARE ALL PRESENT HERE ON TONIGHT. UM, WE DO HAVE SOME STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT. I DID SEE, UH, OLDEST SPRIGS, I BELIEVE JENNIFER GOMEZ. WHITE. AWESOME. YES, GOMEZ, NOT WHITE THOMAS WHITE. UM, I WANTED TO GET CONFIRMATION OF SOMEONE FROM PUBLIC WORKS. WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME IS JEREMY DAVIS WITH PUBLIC WORKS. THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS, DID WE HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY AVAILABLE? OKAY. I THANK YOU. AND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT NEEDED TO BE PRESENT, WOULD YOU PLEASE DENOTE YOUR NAME SO THAT A JIMA KIP RECORD THAT PLEASE INSIDE THE MINUTES? GRETCHEN PILE AND PLANNING. OKAY. THANK YOU. MS. PYLE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, GLEN MARTEL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I BELIEVE TONIGHT THAT WE MAY POSSIBLY HAVE CITY COUNCIL ONE WITH US TONIGHT. MAYBE. IS IT CITY? COUNCILMAN PRESTON. GOOD EVENING. I AM PRESENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR, FOR JOINING US. WELCOME. ALRIGHT, WONDERFUL. OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. RASMUS COMMISSIONER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE JOINED THE MEETING? OKAY. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD NOW. [3. READING OF MINUTES] UM, IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE JUNE 10, 2020 MEETING MINUTES, SO, OKAY. UH, I'LL TAKE THE OUTSET. HOW ABOUT THIS? I'LL TAKE THE MOTION FROM MS. LUCAS. IS THAT OKAY? AND MR. BAILEY, WOULD YOU SECOND, PLEASE? OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ARE THERE ANY NAYS OR ABSTENTIONS? THANK YOU MR. BRIGHTWELL, THAT MOTION CARRIES. [4. REPORTS] WE'LL MOVE NOW TO COMMISSION REPORTS CHAIRMAN ON TONIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO WELCOME THE NEW COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE JOINED US. UM, ON TONIGHT, THIS WILL BE YOUR FIRST MEETING. UH, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF STRANGE. WE AREN'T SEEING EACH OTHER IN PERSON AGAIN, BUT WE DO WELCOME COMMISSIONER SILVER AND COMMISSIONER OVERTON. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE. WE WANT YOU TO FEEL COMFORTABLE. UM, NO QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, IS SMALL OR INSIGNIFICANT, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON THE BOARD. ON NEXT MONTH, WE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THE OUTGOING, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, JOHNSON ROLES AND COMMISSIONER NORCOM IN AUGUST. SO THAT WAY THAT'LL GIVE STAFF SOME TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE INVITED SO THAT WE CAN TELL THEM GOODBYE. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY REPORTS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS? NO. OKAY. SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON. IF EVERYONE COULD REMEMBER TO PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONES OR YOUR DEVICES AND ONLY UNMUTE THEM WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING, THEY'RE PICKING UP BACKGROUND NOISE. THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE STAFF REPORTS AT THIS TIME. DIRECTOR, OTIS SPRIGS, GOOD EVENING, MADAM AND COMMISSIONERS. [00:05:01] UM, I HOPE THAT EVERYONE IS DOING WELL. I ONLY HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND I WANT IT TO, UM, MAKE THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMISSION AWARE THAT THERE IS A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE ZONING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON TOMORROW. THE 10TH OF JULY, I'M SORRY. ON FRIDAY OF JULY. THAT IS, AND ON THAT AGENDA, WHICH HAS BEEN, UM, PUB PUBLISHED THEM AND NOTICED, UM, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF OUR PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH IS HERITAGE, HERITAGE PARK DRIVE STRAIGHT DEDICATION, PHASE THREE. SO THAT'LL BE THE ONLY THING ON THAT AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION. THAT'LL BE A VERY SHORT MEETING. THANK YOU. WE'VE GOTTEN INFORMATION ABOUT THAT MEETING, UM, THAT IS POSTED. YOU SHOULD BE RECEIVING THE MATERIALS. THE MEETING WILL BE AT SIX, SHOULD BE CONTACTING YOU VERY SHORTLY. OKAY. UM, THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVERTON. WHEN YOU SAY POST IT, YOU'RE SAYING ON THE WEBSITE AND MISSOURI CITY. YES MA'AM AND A GMO WILL FALL. WE'LL FORWARD OUR INFORMATION AS THE COMMISSIONERS TO OURSELVES SEPARATELY. AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS AN EMERGENCY MEETING BECAUSE OF TIMING, IT HAS OF COURSE, TO DO WITH THE DATES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN THEY SUBMIT APPLICATIONS. SO WE DO NEED TO HAVE THIS SPECIAL MEETING AND I DEFINITELY WOULD ENCOURAGE AS MANY OF YOU, IF YOU CAN PLEASE JUMP ON THE CALL. UM, IT SHOULDN'T TAKE US VERY LONG AT ALL TO TAKE CARE OF THIS STREET DEDICATION, AND THEN EVERYBODY CAN CARRY ON WITH THEIR WEEKENDS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING AS MANY AS POSSIBLE ON FRIDAY EVENING AT SIX O'CLOCK AND IT, AND AGAIN, IT WILL BE VIA ZOOM CALL. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THIS MEETING, JUST REACH OUT TO OTIS ON TOMORROW, IF YOU WILL. AND I'M PRETTY SURE HE CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DAVIS. IT MIGHT BE WORTH TAKING A QUICK POLL TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET A QUORUM. YEAH, YOU YOU'RE RIGHT. HANEY. HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND, MR. DAVIS. I'M SORRY. UM, I THINK, I THINK MR. HANEY MIGHT BE RIGHT. UM, AT THIS POINT, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT ON FRIDAY? THE WILL NOT. THIS IS BRIAN. WELL, I'LL DO MY BEST, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BRIGHTWELL. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I DON'T, I SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM. DANIEL SILVA. OKAY. MR. SILVA. THANK YOU. LAST CALL. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. FOR CERTAIN THEN THAT WILL AT LEAST GIVE US A QUORUM FOR SURE. WE'LL HAVE SEVEN. SO ANYTHING BELOW FIVE WILL BLOW QUORUM. SO IF EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN JUST COMMIT TO THIS ONE TIME AND AGAIN, IT'S AN EMERGENCY. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE NOW ONTO THE CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT. MR. DAVIS. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS ENGINEERING HAS NO REPORT TONIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AT THIS TIME. WE'RE AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, THOSE THAT HAVE JOINED US ON THE MEETING TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS. AND OF COURSE THEY'D BE SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY ONE BEFORE ME, UH, JIMA, WOULD YOU CONFIRM THAT THERE WAS NO ONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? UM, I NEED TO CONFIRM, UM, AN EMAIL THAT I JUST RECEIVED. SOMEONE WANTED TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NO LONGER ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. WE CAN TAKE THAT PERSON RIGHT NOW DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THEY MUST UNDERSTAND IT'S LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES AND THE COMMISSION REALLY HAS NO JURISDICTION TO EVEN RESPOND, BUT WE WILL LISTEN. OKAY. LET ME WORK ON THAT CONNECTION. SINCE WE WAS THERE AN ITEM THAT WAS PULLED FROM THE AGENDA? NOT THAT I CAN SEE, IT'S POSSIBLY A WITHDRAWAL, BUT WE WILL, UM, GET TO THAT COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS JENNIFER GOMEZ, THE, UH, ITEMS SIX, EIGHT 11 IS THE NEED SHOPPING CENTER. YES. DRAWN BY THE APPLICANT TODAY. [00:10:01] OKAY. MS. GOMEZ IS AT HOME IS WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT'S WHOM WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR FROM? COOL. IT SOUNDS NEW. MY EFFECT. WHAT IIJIMA WAS ALLUDING TO. OKAY. NO, MA'AM, IT'S NOT ON. OKAY. HE'S NOT ON MS. EDWARDS. NO, UH, SHE IS NOT ON NOW. I'M WAITING FOR HER TO RESPOND IF SHE WAS STILL LIKE TO SPEAK. OKAY. YEAH. I BELIEVE IT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT IS NOT POSTED FOR THE AGENDA. JIM, I'M INCLINED TO GIVE IT ABOUT 20 MORE SECONDS AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. YES, MA'AM ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY IS NOW CLOSED. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM [CONSENT AGENDA] SIX, THE PLATS UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA. ONE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PARK'S EDGE, SECTION 16, TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SIANNA SECTION 29, EIGHT THREE. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SRSE MISSOURI CITY FOR CONSIDERING AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLATFORM PARK'S EDGE, SECTION TEN FIVE, CONSIDERING THE APPLICATION FOR FINAL PLAT FOR PARK'S EDGE, SECTION 11 SIX, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLATFORM PARK'S EDGE SECTION 15 SEVEN. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR PARKWAY CROSSING PHASE ONE EIGHT, CONSIDERING APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR WARREN DEVON RESORTS NINE. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAN FOR FORT BEING COMMUNITY CHURCH 10, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR F B S BUSINESS PARK BEING A REPLANT OF SOUTH GESSNER ROAD, INDUSTRIAL PARK, AND 11 WAS POOLED. IS THERE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION? WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU, MR. HANEY, IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. BRIGHT WALES. KAREN. YES. MA'AM. I WAS JUST, YES. HEY, MS. GOMEZ. GO AHEAD. JUST A QUESTION. UM, IF THE COMMISSION RECEIVED THE UPDATED REPORT FOR SIX 81. YES WE DID. OKAY. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS VOTE WITHIN WOULD BE ON IS THE UPDATED REPORT. OKAY. YES. CORRECT. UNDERSTOOD. AGREED. OKAY. I DID JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO NUMBER 10, JENNIFER. UH IT'S IT JUST SEEMED LIKE TO ME, THEY HAD SOME MAJOR CONDITIONS WITH DRAINAGE. WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT, THAT THEY CAN RESOLVE ALL OF THAT STUFF. THIS IS JENNIFER GOMEZ AND I'LL ACTUALLY DECLARED TO JEREMY I'M ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER ON THAT, RIGHT? YES. SO, UM, THEY'RE IN THE WILLOW WATERHOLE WATERSHED AND, UH, WHEN THEY WERE APPLYING FOR THE REPLAT, WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING OUT A DRAINAGE STUDY FOR THAT AREA, AND WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO FINISHING IT UP. THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TIE UP AT THE END. AND ONCE WE GET THAT COMPLETED, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE APPLICANT WHAT EXACTLY WE NEED. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ELSE? WHO'S HARD TO TELL. UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY DON'T HAVE A OUTFALL. THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN ONE THERE BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, BUT I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ARE THERE ANY WAYS? OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT MOTION CARRIES. [6B. SHIPMANS COVE] WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM B SHIPMENTS. COV WILL RECONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR SHIPMENTS CODE, SECTION ONE COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. THIS IS JENNIFER GOMEZ IN, AND THIS IS SHIPMENTS. TOBE WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION OF BACK [00:15:01] IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR. UM, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY SIGNED, READY FOR RECREATION. HOWEVER, IN THE MONTH, SINCE OF THE DEVELOPER HAD CONTINUED TO WORK WITH, UH, THE UTILITY DEVELOPMENT AND PARTICULARLY WITH CENTERPOINT ENERGY AND IT'S RESULTED IN A REQUEST BY CENTER POINT ENERGY, UM, FOR A SINGLE ACCESS UTILITY ACCESS, UM, FOR SERVICE TO THE LIFT STATION THAT'S SHOWN. SO I'VE COLOR CODED BOTH OF THE PLANTS. AND THAT'S WHAT IS ON THE CRANE BEFORE YOU ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. SO YOU SEE, UH, THE RESERVE THAT PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED UTILITY ACCESS AND RED. AND THEN, UH, THE GREEN AREA IS THE RESERVE DEDICATED TO DRAINAGE. AND SO ON THE RIGHT SIDE ARE THE CHANGES PROPOSED. AND SO THE FACILITY ACCESS IS NOW GOING TO BE LOCATED IN THE AREA COLOR YELLOW. AND SO IT WILL BE, UM, THE SINGLE ACCESS FOR THE PURPOSE OF UTILITIES. IT WILL NOT INCLUDE, UH, DRAINAGE AND CONFERENCES. THE RED WILL STILL BE A PART OF THE DRAINAGE FACILITY. THE GREEN WILL STILL CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE JOURNEY'S FACILITY. THE DEVELOPER'S ENGINEER PROVIDED A STATEMENT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, UH, DESCRIBING THESE CHANGES. AND ULTIMATELY THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE DESIGN OF THE DRAINAGE FACILITIES, THE FUNCTION OF THE DRAINAGE FACILITY, ALL OF THAT IS STILL IN PLACE. THE ONLY CHANGE IS SHIFTING, UM, THE RESERVE AND ENSURING ACCESS FOR THE UTILITY PLACEMENT, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, THE DRAINAGE FACILITY. SO, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, WE CAN, UH, ADDRESS THOSE AT THIS POINT. MISSION IS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MY QUESTION IS YES. IS THIS A REALLY ODD OCCURRENCE OR I DON'T REMEMBER THIS EVER HAPPENING IN THE PAST AND IN TERMS OF THE CENTER POINT REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, A SINGLE DEDICATED EASEMENT. NOW THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL. WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS USUALLY THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT, THAT IN AN EXISTING RESERVE THAT'S BEEN CREATED, THIS ONE, THEY HAD TO SHIFT THE LOCATION. UM, AND SO BECAUSE THEY'RE SHIFTING THE LOCATIONS, SHIFTING THOSE LINES, IT NEEDED TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL. UM, BUT TYPICALLY WHEN CENTERPOINT MAKES THAT REQUEST, USUALLY THE APPLICANT CAN, UM, ADDRESS IT IN AN EASEMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED FOR AN, A, A REGARD THE PARTY. GOOD. PROVIDED. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BRIGHTWELL, YOU HAD A QUESTION. OKAY. SO THE EASEMENT IS DEDICATED FOR CENTER POINT USE ONLY, NOT OTHER UTILITIES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A STRAIGHT ARIEL. SO THE, THE DEDICATION IS DESCRIBED AS A UTILITY ACCESS. UM, BUT CENTER POINT, IT WOULD BE THEIR FACILITIES WITHIN THAT BETTE OR IN THAT RESERVE. OH, THERE'LL BE NO SHARING WITHIN THAT EASEMENT WHATSOEVER IS WHAT I'M ASKING. SO THEY'RE FORCED ME IN THEIR LINES COMING IN, WILL GO OUT THROUGH ANOTHER EASEMENT. UH, JEREMY, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE PLACEMENT OF THE FOURTH NAME? I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE VOICEMAIL IS LOCATED. I HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT IF WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, JONATHAN CARTER ON THE LINE, IF WE DO, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE THAT IF THERE IS, IF TOM IS AVAILABLE, WE SURE THAT WOULD BE GOOD SO THAT HE COULD CLARIFY FOR YOU. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WELL, MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS OBVIOUSLY CENTERPOINT DROVE THEM AWAY FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE, BACK INTO THE RESERVE. AND SO NOW THEY'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED THEIR RESERVE TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL CENTERPOINT EASEMENT. IS THAT GENERALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING? OKAY. I DIDN'T FOLLOW THAT QUESTION INCREASE. SO THEY, THEY, THEY SHIFTED, SO THE RED ON THE LEFT SIDE, THAT ACCESS SHIFTED INTO THE YELLOW ON THE RIGHT SIDE. AND THEN THE RED IS JUST THE REMAINDER OF THAT LAND. SO THE LAND AREA HAS AN INCREASE PER SE. IT'S JUST SHIFTED SO THAT IT PROVIDES THE ACCESS TO THE LIFT STATIONS THAT'S SHOWN IN ORANGE AND THEN ALSO ACCESS TO THE STREET WHITE FLIGHT STATION AT THE TOP. [00:20:02] RIGHT. SO OBVIOUSLY I'M COMING AROUND THIS FROM THE BACK SIDE IS THE YELLOW EASEMENT ALSO PART OF THE RESERVE AS LABELED. NOW, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A SEPARATE REVERT. SO THE, THE RED OUTLINE, THE YELLOW OUTLINE, THE GREEN OUTLINE, THE ORANGE OUTLINE, THEY'RE ALL INDIVIDUAL RESERVES. OKAY. SO IT'S A RESERVE WITH AN ADDITIONAL ENCUMBRANCE ON IT THEN JUST, JUST FOR UTILITY ACCESS. I, I I'M, I'M GOOD, SONIA. I UNDERSTAND IT NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE'LL SEND THIS UP? YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. HANEY, IS THERE A, MY SECOND? THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. AYE. ARE THERE ANY NOS OR NAYS? OKAY. SEEING NONE THAT THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM SEVEN, THERE ARE NO ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS EIGHT AND THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT. SO WE ARE NOW [9. OTHER MATTERS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION OR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ] AT NUMBER NINE. THIS WILL BE OTHER MATTERS WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION OR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ONE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ALSO WHERE WE'LL RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 82 OF THE MISSOURI CITY CODE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THIS IS JENNIFER GOMEZ AGAIN, AND DOUG, IF WE COULD MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO WE BROUGHT THIS ISSUE AS A DISCUSSION ITEM ON THE MAY AGENDA AND TALKED ABOUT THE PUBLIC CONCERN AND COUNCIL CONCERNS, UH, REGARDING, UH, SOME OF THE EXISTING STREET NAMES AND SUBDIVISION NAMES, UH, WITHIN THE CITY AND, UH, THE ETJ, EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, AND THE MAIN CONCERN THAT YOU ALSO HEAR NATIONALLY AS WELL. UM, IT'S SURROUNDING SUBDIVISION AND STREET NAMES THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED HISTORICALLY OFFENSIVE, UH, TO, UH, VARIOUS GROUPS. SO, UM, WE USE THE VICKSBURG SUBDIVISION AS AN EXAMPLE IT'S BEEN USED, UM, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOSTLY ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE BATTLE OF EXPER, UM, AND WITHIN THAT SUB DIVISION OF THE STREET THING THAT, UM, IN PARTICULAR REFERENCE, UH, DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE CONFEDERATE ARMY. UM, SO WE HAD THAT FOR, FOR COURT, UM, BECKER FOR DRIVE AND BETTER REPORTS CONFEDERATE DRIVE. AND SO ON NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO AS A REMINDER OF THAT DISCUSSION, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW OUR STREET NAMES NAMES TO BEGIN WITH. AND SO THEY ARE UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS A FUNCTION OF THE PLANNING PROCESS. SO THE PLAQUES THAT WERE JUST APPROVED THAT ARE DEDICATING NEW STREETS, THE DEVELOPER WITH THEIR APPLICATION, UH, SUBMIT, UM, THE STREET NAMES OF SUBDIVISION NAMES AS WELL AS, UH, STREET NAMES. AND SO GENERALLY, UM, THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE, UM, ARE LIMITED AND, UM, THEY ARE THE STREET NAMES AND SUBDIVISION NAMES ARE GENERALLY, UH, DETERMINED BY THE DEVELOPER OR BUILDER, UH, DURING SITE IN PROCESS. SO THE EXISTING STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE ON NAMING MS STREET, UH, INCLUDES FROM THE CLADDING MANUAL AND, UH, THE ONLY STANDARDS WITHIN THERE THAT CURRENTLY EXIST ARE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO IDENTIFY A NAME OF THE SUBDIVISION ON THE FLAT, AND, UH, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE AN ALPHABETICAL LIST OF THE PROPOSED NAMES, UM, THAT ARE BEING DEDICATED BY THAT CLASS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE OTHER STANDARD THAT WE HAVEN'T PLACED TODAY, UH, IS FROM THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL, AND THE STANDARDS ARE IN REGARDS TO THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF PLACING A STREET NAME ON A STREET SIGN. SO THE, THE PRINTING OF THAT SIGN, THE, UM, UH, PLACEMENT OF THE SIGN ON A POLE, UH, THESE STANDARDS GOVERN, UH, THAT DESIGN ASPECT SO EXISTING. UM, WE HAVE STANDARDS IN TERMS OF THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CHARACTERS, INCLUDING SPACES, UH, THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN A PROFILE OF STREET NAME. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO BASED ON [00:25:01] OUR CONTINUED, UH, DISCUSSION CONCERNING A STREET NAME, UH, WE ARE NOW READY TO PRESENT TO YOU SOME DRAFTS OF LANGUAGE, UH, RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS TO, UM, THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES. AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE ISSUE OF SUBDIVISION NAMES WE'VE DISCUSSED, AND IT'S BEEN IN THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AS WELL. UM, HOWEVER, THESE RECORDS REGULATIONS ACTUALLY WON'T COVER A SUBDIVISION NAME AND PRIMARILY A JAMEELA IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN IN, IN MAY, UM, DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPEECH. AND, UH, GENERALLY SUBDIVISION NAMES ARE CONSIDERED A PRIVATE SPEECH PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. UM, SO THESE REGULATIONS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING WOULD NOT, UM, WOULD NOT CHANGE, UM, OR PROVIDE A GUIDELINES ON A DEVELOPER PROPOSING A NEW SUBDIVISION NAME TODAY. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING ARE SOME GUIDELINES FOR NAMING NEW STREETS. AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING A LANGUAGE CHANGE TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND PARTICULARLY THE, UM, REGULATIONS THAT I JUST SUMMARIZED THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT EXIST IN THE PLANNING MANUAL, AS WELL AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL, THOSE WOULD BE RE RETAINED AND CARRY OUT OVER INTO THIS NEW SECTION IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. AND THEN WE WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL GENERAL STANDARDS. AND SO THOSE GENERAL STANDARDS WOULD INCLUDE NAMES COULDN'T BE DUPLICATED. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THINKING OF STREET NAMES, UM, IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, DELIVERY, OR, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO LOCATE, UM, A PLACE IN THE CITY, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF CONFLICTING, UM, NAMES THAT'S WHERE THIS GUIDANCE WOULD PROVIDE. UM, SO NO DUPLICATE NAMES, UH, NAMES CAN'T BE SIMILAR TO OTHER EXISTING NAMES WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY. UM, WE DISCUSSED THE CITY'S NAMING A PROGRAM THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED AND IN PLACE FOR THE RENAMING OF CITY STREETS AS, SO THE STANDARDS WOULD ADOPT THOSE EXISTING STANDARDS AS, UM, A REASON FOR DISAPPROVAL OF A PROPOSED STREET NAME. ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, THAT MAY, CAN NOT CONTAIN PROPER NAME, UM, IS THAT PERSON THAT PLAYS, UM, WHATEVER THAT PROPER NAME IS, HAS BEEN PROVIDED OR CONTRIBUTED POSITIVELY TO THE VERY CITY COMMUNITY OR JUST GENERAL HUMANITY. UM, WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THAT MAY NOT BE OVERUSED NAME. AND THEN, UH, THE PR THE PROPOSAL OFTEN INCLUDES THAT FOR PRIVATE STREET, UH, THAT THERE'S A DESIGNATION PLACE ON THOSE STREETS. UM, SO WHETHER IT'S THE WORD PRIVATE OR THE ABBREVIATION, UM, PLACE AT THE END OF THOSE NAMES, AND THEN, UH, NATHAN ACTUALLY SAYING THAT TYPE OF GRAPHIC, UM, CHARACTER NEXT LIVELY. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CITY NAMING PROGRAM AND WHAT THAT WOULD PROVIDE THAT IS AGAIN IN SECTION 16 OR CHAPTER 16, I'M SORRY OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. WE DIDN'T PROVIDE IT IN THIS PACKET CAUSE WE HAVE PROVIDED IT PREVIOUSLY IN THE MAIN PACKET. UM, SO FOR THE TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS, WE CAN FORWARD THAT INFORMATION TO YOU, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, WHERE AS THESE REGULATIONS ARE COMING FROM, UM, BEFORE THE CITY NAMES, UH, PROGRAM, WHAT THIS COURT MINTS WITH ME IS THAT A STREET NAME CAN BE, UH, DENIED BY THE SUBMISSION. UM, ESSENTIALLY IF IT MEETS THESE QUALIFIER HERE, AND THIS IS IN SUMMARY, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL ONES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN CHAPTER 16, BUT IN SUMMARY, IF THE MAIN ADVOCATE OF POLITICAL PARTY OR RELIGION, UM, IT PROMOTES AN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, UM, GLORIFIES VIOLENCE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THE COMMISSION CAN DISAPPROVE, UH, UH, PROPOSED STRAIGHTENING FOR NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, ONE PROPER NAME. THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING TO TARGET THE OFFENSIVE, UM, THE OFFENSIVE ISSUES, UM, NAMES THAT MIGHT BE HISTORICALLY OFFENSIVE. UM, UH, MOST OF THE NAMES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, PARTICULARLY IN THE BIG SPURT, A SUBDIVISION AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, UM, IN THE CITY, UM, ARE NAMES THAT ARE DEALING WITH PEOPLE, PLACES, OR EVENTS, UM, AND IT'S NAMED AFTER A SPECIFIC PERSON OR SPECIFIC PLACE. SO THIS IS, UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT. AND THEN ALSO JUST TO BRING IT INTO THE PUBLIC CONVERSATION. UM, SO [00:30:01] CAN YOU CAN PROVIDE, UH, THE QUALIFIERS THAT THE NAME CAN'T BE A PROPER NAME, UM, IF IT HAS NOT HAD, IF THEY HAVE NOT HAD A SIGNIFICANT POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE CITY, THEY HAVEN'T MADE A SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, JUST A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, OR TO OVERALL HUMANITY. UM, THIS REGULATION WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW. AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPERS JUST SUBMIT THE LIST OF STREET NAMES, WHICH YOU ALL DON'T TYPICALLY SEE WHAT YOU SEE ARE THE STREET NAMES ACTUALLY PRINTED ON, UM, THE PLAT. SO WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DEVELOP IS ANOTHER CHECKLIST, UM, OR SOME KIND OF FORM WHERE THE DEVELOPER IS ESSENTIALLY, UM, PROVIDING FOR YOU SOME BACKGROUND AS TO, UH, THEIR THINKING IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSED NAMES. UM, SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING NEW THAT YOU'LL SEE. UM, IF THESE REGULATIONS ARE ADOPTED, UM, WE'LL DEVELOP, UM, THAT KIND OF CHECKLIST AND, UM, INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE SO THAT THE COMMISSION HAS SOME BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THE PROPOSED STREET DAY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THEN THE ISSUE OF OVERUSED NAMES. UM, THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE, UM, THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN NAMES OR CERTAIN WORDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN A STREET NAMES THAT, UM, WE CAN PROBABLY REDUCE, UH, WITHIN THE CITY. UM, AND SO PROVIDING THAT OVERUSED NAME, BIRTH, ESSENTIALLY RETIRED, UM, THAT WE NO LONGER SEE THEM ADDED OR INCLUDED, UM, IN STATEMENTS MOVING FORWARD, THE LANGUAGE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU HAD THAT AT 50, UM, IF THE WORD APPEARS IN 50 OR MORE, A STRAIGHTENING THAT WAS TAKEN FROM, I BELIEVE THE CITY OF HOUSTON, UH, REGULATION ON STREET NAMES, WE, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION AFTER LOOKING AT THE STREET NAMES WITHIN THIS AREA IS WE MAY NEED TO REDUCE THAT AND REDUCE IT DOWN TO 20. UM, AND SO I GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ABOUT THREE WORDS THAT ARE COMMONLY USED IN STREET GANGS, UH, IN A VERY CITY, THE ETJ, UM, OR THIS GENERAL COMMUNITY. UM, AND AS YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE GUESSED WITHOUT LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE, UH, THE NUMBER ONE WORD THAT IS USED THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY IS QUAIL. UM, IT APPEARS AT LEAST 44 TIMES IN DIFFERENT VARIATIONS AND STRAIGHTENING. UH, BRENE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT APPEARS QUITE FREQUENTLY, UM, IN STRAIGHTENING AND, UH, PLANTATION HAS BEEN ONE OF THE WORDS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF, UM, SENSITIVITY, UM, AND, UH, FOR CERTAIN ETHNIC GROUPS. UM, AND SO PLANTATIONS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN USED IN ABOUT 21, UH, STREET NAMES THROUGHOUT THE AREA. SO AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT IS IF WE USE, UM, THAT KIND OF AS A THRESHOLD IS TO SET THE LIMIT AT NO MORE THAN 20, UM, USES OF THAT PARTICULAR WORD IN ANY, YOU KNOW, COMBINATION OF THE STREET NAME AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, AND THEN PRIVATE STREETS, UM, PRIVATE STREETS HAVE ALSO BEEN A DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL RECENTLY. UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE STANDARDS, UM, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF PRIVATE STREETS, UM, AND THE MAINTENANCE OF PRIVATE STREETS. UM, HOWEVER THIS WOULD, UM, ALLEVIATE ANY CONFUSION AS TO WHAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED, UM, A PUBLIC OR A PRIVATE STREET. AND SO THE EXAMPLE IN THE PICTURE THAT MAY BE HARD TO SEE ON THE SLIDE, UM, BUT IT'S, UH, UH, COOPER CREEK TUCKER CREEK LANE. I PROBABLY COULD LOOK GREAT, UM, COPPER CREEK LANE. UM, IT INTERSECTS WITH SIENNA RANCH ROAD AND IT ALSO WITH HIGHWAY SIX, UM, IT PROVIDES ACCESS. THERE'S AN ICE CARWASH, UH, THAT HAS ACCESS OFF OF THAT ROAD. OTHERS, THE HOUSTON METHODIST OFFICE BUILDING HAS ACCESS OFF THE AFTER ROAD AND, UM, A, UH, RECENTLY REBRANDED CIRCLE CIRCLE K GAS STATION THAT HAS ACTUALLY OFF THAT GROWTH. UM, BUT IT'S A PRIVATE STREET, BUT IF YOU WERE TO DRIVE IT, OR IF, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DRIVEN IT TODAY, YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY RECOGNIZE IT AS BEING A PRIVATE STREET BECAUSE THE STREET SIGN, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST ACCESSING IT ARE EXACTLY THE SAME WAY THAT YOU MIGHT ACCESS A PUBLIC STREETS. SO THIS WOULD HELP DISTINGUISH, UM, BETWEEN, UH, SITUATIONS LIKE THAT MOVING FORWARD, UM, AND PUT, UM, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED WITHIN THEIR, UM, ALLOCATION AS A DESIGNATED AS, OR TO INDICATE THAT IT'S PRIVATE, UM, ON THAT STREET SIGN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS ALSO, UM, PROVIDE AN APPEAL PROCESS. [00:35:02] UM, SO THE COMMISSION, YOU ALL WILL CONTINUE TO ACCESS THE AUTHORITY, UM, ON APPROVING THIS, APPROVING THE STREET, MANAGE THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, UM, ANY EVENT THAT YOU, UH, RECOMMEND TO DISAPPROVE, OR YOU DECIDE DETERMINED, UH, TO DISAPPROVE A STREET MAIN, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE, UM, A OPTION UNDER THESE REGULATIONS TO APPEAL AND THAT APPEAL WOULD GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL AND THEN CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION ON THAT STREET NAME. UM, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD ALSO, UM, REVIEW IT AT THAT POINT WITH THE APPEAL BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 16 THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED FOR THE REMAINING OF STREETS. UM, AND SO AGAIN, UH, THE PROCESS FOR REVIEWING STREET MAINE WILL CONTINUE TO BE TIED TO THE PLANNING PROCESS. UM, THERE WON'T BE ANY CHANGE THERE, YOU'LL JUST BE RECEIVING MORE INFORMATION AND MORE DETAIL, UM, FROM US AND RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, INCLUDED, UH, WITH A PLAN MOVING FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS, UM, REMAIN SUCCESSFUL ON THIS IS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU ADOPT, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AS A FINAL REPORT. AND, UM, IT IS SET TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, WITH THIS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE, UM, ANY FURTHER GUIDANCE OR, YOU KNOW, ANY COMMENTS AND CHANGES, UM, WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE INFORMATION TO BE PRESENTED AND, UH, PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL. UM, BUT IT WILL, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A SUBDIVISION, UM, CHANGE AND NOT AS DONATE CHANGE, UM, YOU ALL CAN EITHER, YOU KNOW, DISAPPROVE OR RECOMMEND DENIAL OR RECOMMEND CHANGES, BUT IT STILL WOULD MEET, IT WOULD STILL MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. UM, REGARDLESS OF THAT, THAT RECOMMENDATION, IT WOULD JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE. SO, UM, WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED. I HAVE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION, JENNIFER IS TANYA. UM, OKAY. SO LET ME, LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE ASKING US TO EITHER TO APPROVE IT AS A FINAL REPORT, DON'T APPROVE IT OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT EITHER WAY, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO THIS, WE'LL STILL MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. YEAH, IT'S OKAY. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. UM, THE HOPE IS, IS THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE THE AUTHORITY FOR THE PLANNING PROCESS AND YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT WOULD HAVE TO IMPLEMENT, UM, THE STANDARDS, IF THEY'RE ADOPTED THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY CLARIFICATION THAT YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE MADE, OR, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED OR WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, IF YOU JUST COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH IT, WE CAN SHARE THAT, UM, WITH COUNCIL AS WELL. NO PROBLEM. AND I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL GET SOME OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC HEARING UNDER F PR, I GUESS I'M GETTING A LITTLE TRIPPED UP. IT'S LIKE THE COMMISSION MAY APPROVE A PROPOSED STREET NAME THAT CONSISTS OF A PROPER NAME, AND IT GOES ON, BUT IT SAYS THAT IT'S NOT DEMONSTRATIVE OF A PERSON, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE TWO IN MY MIND, THE TWO DON'T REALLY GO TOGETHER. CAUSE I'M LIKE A PERSON COULD DO A, A LOT OF GREAT THINGS, BUT THEN THEY COULD DO SOMETHING SIGNIFICANTLY REALLY BAD THAT WOULD MAKE THEM BE A DEMONSTRATIVE PERSON, BUT THEN WE'RE STILL GOING TO APPROVE IT. OKAY. AND THAT'S YEAH. AND WE CAN, WE CAN WORK THROUGH, UM, THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE. UM, AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION. I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO, UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL, THE GOAL IS, IS TRYING TO SHAPE THE LANGUAGE SO THAT YOU HAVE ROOMS, UM, TO PUT THAT KIND OF CONVERSATION OUT THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST THINKING OF IF VICKSBURG WERE PROPOSED TODAY AND, YOU KNOW, IF SOME OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONFEDERATE OR UNION ARMY SOLDIER, UM, THOSE NAMES WERE PROPOSED TODAY, UM, WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, THE KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY OR THE KNOWLEDGE OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR LIVES, UM, IT'S THE, THE LANGUAGE IS AIMED AT GIVING YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION OR ENOUGH ROOM, UM, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE [00:40:01] TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT YOU FEEL, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE MADE A SIGNIFICANT POSITIVE IMPACT THAT REPRESENTS MISSOURI CITY REPRESENTS THIS COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED IN THIS, IN THIS MANNER. THAT MAKES SENSE. NOW, DO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING OF MISSISSIPPI MISSION OR KAREN OVERTON? UH, I'M CALLING, I HAVE, UH, A NEED FOR CLARIFICATION. MY UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD PRESENT TO THE BOARD RECOMMENDED NAMES, AND AT THAT TIME WE WOULD MAKE THE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT CORRECT JENNIFER? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WILL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TIME TO DO ANY RESEARCH OF THEIR OWN BEFORE CONSIDERING A VOTE IF YOU GIVE THEM THE RECOMMENDATION? OKAY. AND SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS. SO RIGHT, JENNIFER, THIS IS MALE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, THAT KIND OF GOES TO HOW I SAID THE PLAZA, THE JUDICIAL FUNCTION, YOUR DECISION HAS TO BE BASED OFF OF THE INFORMATION, THE APPLICANT AND THE STAFF GIVES YOU. SO IN THAT CASE IN STAFF WOULD HAVE TO GET AS MUCH. YEAH. BUT, AND I THINK THOUGH, TOO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT THE PROCESS ISN'T SET UP, UM, FOR THAT KIND OF REVIEW. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE, THE NAMES ARE SUBMITTED IN A LIST AND THEN ON THE PLAT AND THEY'RE SUBMITTED AT THE TIME THAT THE PLAT IS SUBMITTED. UM, SO THIS MAY BE, WE NEED TO KIND OF RELOOK AT THAT PROCESS, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION, UM, AND ENSURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. SO WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT USING LIKE THE CHECKLIST AND, UM, HAVING THE DEVELOPER PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING RESPONSIVE TO THESE REQUIREMENTS. UM, AND THEN WE'LL REVIEW THAT AND THEN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU ALL. AND SO WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT KIND OF WHERE THAT NEEDS TO SIT IN THE PROCESS SO THAT STAFF HAS TIME TO REVIEW IT. AND THEN YOU ALL ALSO HAVE TIME TO CONSIDER IT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES THEN IF WE REALLY DON'T KNOW THOSE QUESTIONS, I MEAN, I DID, YOU KNOW, IN, IN LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION, UM, MY REACTION WAS, WELL, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THESE THINGS ARE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT? AND THEN YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THAT AND SAID, SAYS, STAFF, WE'LL BREAK THEM, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF, IF WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT PROCESS HAS WORKED, W WILL WORK, HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT CHANGE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROCESS IS? YEAH. I HEAR YOU. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOING INTO LIKE THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG THOUGH, TOO. UM, BECAUSE IT'S, THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE BUILT OFF OF THE REGULATION THAT YOU ADOPT. SO IF YOU ADOPT THAT REGULATION, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO ADJUST THE PROCESS, UM, WITHIN, WITHIN THE LIMIT, BUT ADJUST THE PROCESS SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED. UM, THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS, JENNIFER, THIS IS COMMISSIONER LUCAS. WILL STAFF GIVE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL THESE NAMES? YES, WE WOULD. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS IN REGARDS TO THIS, WE SURE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU NOW. AND IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME MMM. BEFORE YOU SPEAK, WE SURE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. SEEING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU, MR. HANEY, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. BRIGHTWELL FOR THE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I GOTCHA. HI. ARE THERE ANY NOS? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. UM, IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THIS ON TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL AS A FINAL REPORT ALONG MAYBE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RAISED? [00:45:06] OKAY. I DON'T HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT, UH, ATTORNEY WAY. CAN YOU HELP ME OUT HERE SINCE I CAN'T GET A MOTION FOR THAT? WHAT SHOULD I CALL FOR NEXT WE'LL CALL FOR ANOTHER MOTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION THAT, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE VOTE AGAINST THE FINAL RECORD? SO MOVE. THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? MISSIONER KAREN OVERTON SECOND. THANK YOU. MISS OVERTON FOR THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HMM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. OKAY. OKAY. ANY AGAINST OR NAYS? ANY NAMES? WOULD THAT BE MR O'MALLEY? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. O'MALLEY. UM, I'M GOING TO ALSO VOTE. NO, BUT THE MOTION DOES STILL CARRY JENNIFER. THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO IT, I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ON HOW THE THING IS GOING TO WORK. I THINK, I THINK IT SOUNDS GOOD. IN THEORY, WE JUST NEED A FEW MORE, FEW MORE THINGS AT IT, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL WILL GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, MOVE IT FORWARD. WE WILL EXPRESS THAT. OKAY, PLEASE. PLEASE DO. UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS, UH, OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA ON TONIGHT. UM, IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN? THANK YOU, MR. HANEY. CAN I HAVE THAT AS A SECOND FROM YOU, MS. LUCAS? YES. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. WONDERFUL GOODNIGHT GUYS. I'LL SEE. Y'ALL NEXT MONTH. FRIDAY NIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.