* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. SOUNDS GOOD [00:00:01] TO ME. WE'RE [1. CALL TO ORDER] GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON TONIGHT. IT'S RIGHT AT 7:00 PM. THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HERE BY CALL TO ORDER ON TONIGHT. QUIET AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A ROLL CALL OF EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS. IF YOU WOULD SIGNIFY YOUR PRESENCE JUST BY SAYING AYE, THAT WOULD HELP MYSELF. SONYA BROWN. MARSHALL. I AM PRESENT TIM HANEY. THANK YOU, JOHN. O'MALLEY. THANKS MR. O'MALLEY GLORIA LUCAS HERE. HI, MS. LUCAS. THANK YOU, MS. OVERTON, KAREN OVERTON, KAREN OVERTON HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. OVERTON DANIEL SILVA, DANIEL SILVER. OKAY, WELL WATCH TO SEE IF MAYBE HE JOINS US A LITTLE LATER ON HUGH BRIGHTWELL QUE BRIGHTWELL. OKAY, WELL WATCH TO SEE IF HE JOINS US IN A LITTLE WHILE OR NOT COMMISSIONER BAILEY. JAMES BAILEY HERE. THANK YOU, MR. BAILEY COMMISSIONER ERASMUS, MONICA RASMUS. WE'LL WATCH TONIGHT TO SEE IF MS. RASMUS JOINS US AS WELL. I DO THINK THE SOUND HOUSE. OH, IS SHE HERE? OKAY. OKAY. RASMUS IS PRESENT VERY WELL. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH US HERE ON TONIGHT. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. STAFF MEMBERS. THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALSO JOINING US AND ATTENDEES AS WELL AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE MEETING. UH, JIMA HAS PROVIDED ME WITH A LIST OF STAFF MEMBERS AND ATKINS THAT ARE PRESENT. THEY CAN MAKE THEMSELVES, UM, READILY KNOWN AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH THE MEETING. IS [3. READING OF MINUTES] THERE A MOTION THAT THE SEPTEMBER NINE, 2020 MEETING MINUTES BE ACCEPTED? THANK YOU, MR. HANEY, IS THERE A SECOND, LUCAS. SECOND. THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE. AS WELL. ARE THERE ANY NAYS OR IF THERE ARE ANY ABSTENTIONS GREAT. THAT MOTION PASSES. WE'LL MOVE RIGHT [4. REPORTS] ON INTO THE REPORTS. UM, COMMISSION REPORTS, CHAIRMAN. I DON'T HAVE A REPORT HANEY. DO YOU OR ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. VERY WELL. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'LL MOVE NOW WITH STAFF REPORTS, DIRECTOR OLDEST SPREADS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GOOD EVENING. MADAM CHAIR. CAN YOU HEAR ME CAN, OKAY. THANK YOU. AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE. UM, I JUST WANTED TO PAUSE JUST A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT I TOBAR IS NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH AS DESIGNATED BY THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION AND ALL ALSO OUR PROFESSIONAL INSTITUTE, THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS. AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HIGHLIGHT, HIGHLIGHT BOTH PLANNING AND PLANNERS AND PROFESSIONALS THAT LEAD COMMUNITIES LIKE MISSOURI CITY TO BE, UM, EQUITABLE RESILIENT. AND AS YOU KNOW, RECENTLY WE'VE HAD TO OF COURSE DEAL WITH THE LONG LASTING RECOVERY FROM THE EFFECTS OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC THAT HAD, HAS ALLOWED US TO BASICALLY MOVE BEYOND THE NORM AND LOOK AT PLANNING IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SO WE'VE BEEN FORCED OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, TO BRIDGE THAT GAP FROM THE DIGITAL AGE AND AS WE MOVE CLOSER TO BEING A PAPERLESS SOCIETY. SO, UM, WITH, UM, YOUR VIRTUAL MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS WE ADVANCE MISSOURI CITY AS A GREAT PLACE TO BOTH LIVE AND WORK. SO THAT BEING SAID, THE CITY COUNCIL DID RECOGNIZE, UM, OCTOBER AS NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH. I BRING IT FORTH THE PROCLAMATION, WHICH WAS READ ON OCTOBER THE FIFTH OF THIS MONTH. SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SHOW CASE PLANNING AND ALSO THE CONTRIBUTIONS AS YOU AS LEADERS AND, UM, A COMMISSION THAT'S WORKING TOWARDS OR TO LEAD DEVELOPMENT AND YOUR CONTRIBUTION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. OLDEST SPRIGS, OR ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSIONERS, [00:05:01] WE ALL LIKE WHAT WE DO, WE ENJOY IT. AND SO ON. HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE CAN HAVE OUR CUPCAKES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WILL BE THE FIRST REAL CHALLENGE TO THIS TECHNOLOGY. AGREED. ABSOLUTELY. YES. CITY ENGINEERING. UM, IS SOMEONE PRESENT TONIGHT? YES. ALRIGHT. JEREMY DAVIS. YES. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS ENGINEERING HAS NO REPORT FOR THE NIGHT. OKAY. VERY WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON AHEAD. UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IT GIVES, UM, THOSE IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ITEMS OR CONCERNS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANYONE? NO, THERE WASN'T ANYONE TO SPEAK. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. UH, IIJIMA ONE MORE QUESTION. AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH EVERYTHING ON TONIGHT AS, UM, APPLICANTS OR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE AS THEY ARE WANTING TO SPEAK. W I GUESS SHE'LL SIGNIFY ME THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT NEEDS TO SPEAK. IS THAT HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK? YES MA'AM. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. [CONSENT AGENDA] WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM SIX, THE PLATZ UNDER EIGHT, THE CONSENT AGENDA ONE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR SIENNA SECTION 26 TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SIENNA, SECTION 34, B THREE, CONSIDERING AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SIANNA SECTION 38 FOR CONSIDERING THE APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SIANNA SECTION 42 FIVE, CONSIDERING AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR ALPHA CENTER. AND I'M GOING TO DO EIGHT AT THIS TIME, CONSIDERING AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR FORT MEN, ISC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IS THERE A MOTION THAT AT THIS TIME WE ACCEPT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, AND EIGHT. AND HE, UH, UH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONDITIONALLY ACCEPT ITEMS ONE, THREE, FOUR, SEVEN, AND EIGHT, AND APPROVE ITEM TWO AND FIVE, BUT I GET A RIDE. I THINK SO HANY, WHY DON'T I DO IT LIKE THIS? I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT THIS WAY. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO BACK AND YEAH, I DID. YOU'RE RIGHT. HOW ABOUT THIS FIRST? MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? WE HAVE A FEW MORE REPORTS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS ON THOSE ITEMS. PERMISSION TO LUCAS, MAKE THE MOTION TO PULL SIX AND SEVEN. THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MS. RASMUS. I AM SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. WE WILL COME BACK TO ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN NOW HANEY WHERE YOU, WE DO NEED TO VOTE. YES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE. OKAY. ANY NAYS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. I DON'T HANEY. SO I GUESS MY MOTION, UH, NOW CHANGES TO, UH, I MOVED THAT WE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED ITEMS ONE, THREE, FOUR, AND EIGHT, AND APPROVE ITEMS TWO AND FIVE, BUT I GET IT RIGHT THAT TIME. I THINK YOU DID. YOU SAID, OKAY, SO ONE, FOUR AND EIGHT. WAIT A MINUTE. THREE, ONE, THREE AND EIGHT. OKAY. ARE CONDITIONALS CONDITIONAL. OKAY. AND TWO AND FIVE APPROVED. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? THE SECOND. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. LUCAS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. HI. ALRIGHT. ARE THERE ANY NAYS? ALRIGHT. SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. NOW [6A. (6) Consider an application for a final plat for Fort Bend Business Park Phase 2] LET'S HAVE A, LET'S CONSIDER AN APPLICATION. THIS WILL BE NUMBER SIX. CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR FORT BEING BUSINESS PARK FACED. HI COMMISSION. THIS IS JENNIFER GOMEZ. AND THE ONLY REASON TO PULL THIS ONE OFF IS A FACT WANTS TO ADD A COMMENT TO THE REPORT [00:10:01] AND ON THE CURRENT REPORT, UH, IT REFERENCES THE CONFIRMATION OR PAYMENT OF IMPACT FEE. AND FACT WANTS TO CLARIFY THAT STATEMENT, UH, TO READ THAT IMPACT FEES FOR THIS FINAL PLAT ARE JUST FOR THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT WITHIN REVERT B AND THAT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS ARE STILL REQUIRED TO PAY IMPACT FEES, UM, WHEN REQUESTING A UTILITY CONNECTION. SO WE WANTED TO ADD THAT STATEMENT TO THE REPORT, UM, WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AND THAT, AND THEY WOULD ALSO PAY THE IMPACT FEES AT THE THEN CURRENT RATE. CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, EXCEPT THE APPLICATION FOR THE FINAL PLATFORM FOR BEING BUSINESS PARK, INCLUDING JENNIFER'S, UM, ADDITIONAL COMMENT IN REGARDS TO FUTURE IMPACT FEES. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. HANEY, IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. BAILEY, IS THERE FOR ANY DISCUSSION? ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION NOW WE'RE PULLING IT ARE WE'RE PROVING IT. WELL, WE'VE ALREADY PULLED IT. SO JENNIFER HAS EXPLAINED TO US ABOUT THE IMPACT FIFTIES. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET A, GET AN A, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT IT, INCLUDING JENNIFER'S ADDITIONAL STAFF REPORT. DID YOU NEED JENNIFER TO GO OVER IT ONE MORE TIME? NO, I THINK I HEARD HER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO INSERT ANOTHER VERBIAGE IN HERE ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE. SO WE'RE APPROVING IT WITHOUT THAT STATEMENT BEING IN THERE. OKAY. I'M SORRY. IT'S BEING APPROVED WITH THE STATEMENT BEING PUT IN THERE. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY ONE ELSE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? OKAY. THAT MOTION PASSES AS WELL. THANK YOU. UNDER [6A. (7) Consider an application for a final plat for Village of Sawmill Lake] ITEM SEVEN, WE NEED TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAN FOR VILLAGE OF SAMIL LAKE. I'VE GOT A PARAGRAPH CHANGE. I THINK HERE WE HEAR YOU, JENNIFER. HI. OKAY, MIKE. OH, MR. WHITE IS GOING TO TAKE IT. OKAY. UM, SO IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT, I'M SORRY. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I HAD TO ADJUST MY SCREEN. UH, THIS IS LOCATED IN, OF COURSE IN OUR ETJ IS SOUTH OF SIENNA PARKWAY IN EAST WATERS LAKE BOULEVARD, LOCATED BEHIND THE VANGUARD ONE, A SERIOUS SCHOOL. UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, HAS SUBMITTED THE, UH, UPDATE FOR THE, UH, THE STATEMENT TO THE PLANT. UM, SO WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE, UH, THIS PLANT AND MOVE FORTH. SO THERE DAVE ADDRESS THE CONDITION? YES, IT WAS, IT WAS A STATEMENT THAT THEY NEEDED TO ADD, UH, TO THE, UH, OWNER'S RE UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THIS FLAT. IS THERE A SECOND? LUCAS, SECOND. THANK YOU. MISS LOOKS FAIR MUCH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. HI. ANY NAMES? OKAY. THAT MOTION PASSES. [6B. PARKS EDGE] WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM SIX B UH, WE'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR AN UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN FOR PARKS EDGE MEAN COMMISSION. THIS IS GRETCHEN PILE, AND THIS IS THE, UM, UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN FOR PARK'S EDGE. THE PURPOSE OF THE UPDATE WAS TO CLARIFY SECTION BOUNDARIES FOR PARKS EDGE SECTION [00:15:01] 17, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN AS S F UM, EIGHT, AND THEN TO LABEL THE REMAINING FUTURE SECTIONS FOR 18 AND 19 ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU. OKAY. IT'S I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT'S IT'S, I'M DOING MY ARROW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S THE MIDDLE PART WHERE IT SAYS SECTION 17. IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT HERE. OKAY. WE DON'T SEE YOUR CURSOR, SO, OH, OKAY. WE CAN'T SEE IT. IS IT THAT BLUE AREA OR THAT YELLOW COLOR? YES. IT'S IN BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, TWO DETENTION PONDS. YES. THE TWO ARE THE DETENTION PONDS. OH, OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE FINE. BUT THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WAS MADE. THERE WERE NO OTHER CHANGES MADE TO THE CONCEPT PLAN. I THINK THIS IS JUST SOME LINES THAT YOU'RE ADDING JUST A LITTLE MORE SPACE TO DETENTION. WE DIDN'T LOSE HOUSES. WE DIDN'T ADD HOUSES. WE DIDN'T DO ANY OF THAT STUFF. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. WE CAN SEE YOUR CURSOR NOW FOR SOME WEEKS WE CAN SEE YOUR CURSOR. ALL OF A SUDDEN. THAT'S PRETTY COOL. IT SOUNDS IN CONCERT PLAN. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER OVER 10 SECONDS. THANK YOU, MISS OVER 10. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT, MR. O'MALLEY IF YOU'RE SAYING AYE OR NO OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU OR SEE YOU. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEMS C HERITAGE PARK DRIVE, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THE TWO, TWO, TWO, TWO, TWO. THANK YOU. SORRY. THIS IS FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PARTS EDGE SECTION 17. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THANK LUCAS. OH, NO, THAT WAS MS. OVERTON THAT TIME. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, THERE ARE NO NAYS. I DON'T SEE ANY MORE MOVE FORWARD. THAT MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE'LL [6C. HERITAGE PARK DRIVE BRIDGE STREET DEDICATION] GO TO ITEM C HERITAGE PARK DRIVE GRID STREET DEDICATION, UH, WILL RECONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR HERITAGE PARK DRIVE BRIDGE STREET DEDICATION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. IN REGARDS TO THE LOCATION THAT IS SOUTH A EXTENSION OF THE HERITAGE PARK DRIVE AND NORTH TO SIENNA, SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30 TO BE SOUTH OF SANTA ANA RIVER PARKWAY AND EAST OF THE BRAZOS RIVER LOCATED IN OUR ETJ. IN REGARDS TO THE RECONSIDERATION OF THIS, THE APPLICANT DID COME BEFORE YOU BEFORE AND RECEIVED THE APPROVAL ON FEBRUARY 12TH OF 2020. UH, THEY HAD THREE MINOR REVISIONS, UH, TO INCLUDE THE WIDENING AND, UH, THE NORTH AND SOUTH STUB STREETS OF WRESTLING CREEK DRIVE FROM 70 FEET TO 80 FEET ALSO TO ADJUST THE SOUTHERNLY STUB ALIGNED STREET ALIGNMENT BY ADDING THE ART TO THE CENTER LINE AND ALSO INCREASING THE PLATE ACREAGE FROM 1.15, I'M SORRY, 1.15 ACRES TO 1.2 TO SEVEN ACRES. WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE RECOMMEND THE ACTION OF THE APPROVAL OF THE RECONSIDERATION OF THE PLATE. OKAY. UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. WHITE IN REGARDS TO THIS, UH, OR IN REGARDS TO THESE CHANGES? WELL, I IT'S, I GUESS IT'S A PROCEDURAL THING. UM, THAT EXPLANATION DIDN'T COME THROUGH WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON THE MATERIALS WE RECEIVED AS DID NOT THE CONCEPT [00:20:01] PLAN UPDATES, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I LOOKED AT IT SEVERAL TIMES AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT CHANGED. AND SO IN THE FUTURE, IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, STAFF REPORT HAVE SOME INDICATION AS TO WHY THESE CHANGES HAVE OCCURRED, BUT GIVEN THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE THIS A FINAL PLAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT MOTION. AND ALSO THOSE COMMENTS, MR. HANEY, IS THERE A SECOND? LOOK THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MOTION CARROTS? I'M SORRY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. HI, AYE. ANY NAYS? OKAY. NOW THE MOTION CARRIES AT THIS TIME. I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION PLEASE, THAT WE SUSPEND THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA. AND IF WE COULD POSSIBLY, UH, MOVE ITEM SIX D AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE ITEM SEVEN, EIGHT FIRST. WE'LL COME BACK TO SIX D AFTER WE TAKE SEVEN, EIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION ONLY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT ITEM THREE, SIX, B THREE WOULD THEN BECOME APPROVED AS, AS OPPOSED TO CONDITIONAL POSSIBLY. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION FIRST. CAN YOU RESTATE THAT OFFER? I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. SORRY. OKAY. SO I GUESS LOOKING AT THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM 61 AND TWO ARE FAIRLY STRAIGHT FORWARD, 63, 63 REQUIRED. WHAT WAS, WAS IT RECOMMENDED TO BE APPROVED CONDITIONALLY BASED ON THE CONDITION OF ITEM SEVEN PASSING BASICALLY? IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT. WELL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE SUSPEND THE RULES AND THERE'S ITEM SEVEN FIRST. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. HANEY. IS THERE A SECOND LOOK A SECOND. ARE THERE, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. HI. HI, ANY NAMES? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT MOTION PASSES. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO [7A. ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS] ITEM SEVEN. THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AN SUP WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR AGAINST THE REQUEST BY MR. FREEMAN OF LJA ENGINEERING, INC, FOR A SUP ON AN APPROXIMATE 34.66 ACRE TRACT OF LAND TO ALLOW FOR THE LOCATION OF AN ABOVE GROUND STORM WATER PUMP STATION FOR FOUR BEING COUNTY MUNICIPAL MUD 46. GOOD EVENING. EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES MA'AM YES. UM, SO THE MAP ON THE SCREEN, SO THE DRAINAGE FACILITY THAT'S CURRENTLY OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY MONTH 46. SO ALL OF THE AREA THAT'S OUTLINED IN RED IS THAT 34.66 ACRES THAT'S DESCRIBED. UM, AND SO THE PROPOSED THAT CP WOULD COVER THAT ENTIRE ACREAGE. UM, HOWEVER, THE, UH, APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF WHERE THE STORM WATER PUMP STATION IS GOING. YOU SEE THE LITTLE RED BOX IN THE CALL OUT, UM, UH, WOULD BE IN THAT AREA. THAT'S SHOWN ON THE MAP. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND AND THIS WILL ASSIST WITH, UM, THE PREVIOUS ITEMS, UH, FOR, UM, AGENDA ITEM 60. UM, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND ON, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, HOW WE CAME TO THIS AND WHY YOU HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS PROJECT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY PART OF THE COLONY LAKE CONCEPT PLAN, AND THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, A CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTED IN THE MID 1990S TO ABOUT [00:25:01] EARLY 2000. UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAD ALWAYS BEEN IDENTIFIED, UM, AS A DRAINAGE FACILITY, UM, THAT SUPPORTED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SUBDIVISION. THERE'S A LEVY, UH, JUST TO THE SOUTH END OF THIS PROPERTY, UM, THAT EXISTED, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT SUPPOSITION. AND THEN AS THE CONCEPT PLAN INCLUDED THE JOURNEYS FACILITY, UH, RECREATIONAL TRAILS, AND THEN ALSO A FUTURE, UH, SECTION OF THE SUBDIVISION, THE DEVELOPER DEEDED, THE PROPERTY TO LED 46, UM, IN THE EARLY 2000, ROUGHLY BETWEEN 2003 AND 2007. SO HOW DID WE COME TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW? UM, THE PROJECT ENGINEERS ARE ON THE CALL AND THEY CAN WALK YOU THROUGH ANY TECHNICAL, UM, ASPECTS OF, UM, HOW THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK AND WHY THIS SYSTEM IS NEEDED. BUT THE BROAD UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS, UM, THE, UH, SITUATION THAT WE HAD WITH HURRICANE HARVEY, UM, HURRICANE I, UM, THOSE RAIN EVENTS, UM, THIS WILL BE A SYSTEM THAT THE MUDDY WOULD USE, UH, TO HELP MITIGATE, UM, THOSE, UM, EXTREME RAIN EVENTS. SO THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD THIS PUMP STATION. IT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, A PUMP STATION, UM, ITSELF, A CONTROL BUILDING, A GENERATOR, UM, AND SOME RELATED EQUIPMENT WITHIN AN ENCLOSED, UM, PORTION OF THE SITE, UM, WHEN THE PLANS WERE SUBMITTED, UH, FOR REVIEW, UH, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE CALLED OUT WAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR FLAT. UM, IT'S A, WE'LL GO INTO THAT LATER IN THE SLIDE. UM, AS WE LOOKED AT THE FLAT REQUIREMENTS, UM, THE ISSUE OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL, UM, WAS ALSO HIGHLIGHTED NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, UM, IN THE MATERIALS, AND I KNOW YOU RECEIVED THESE MATERIALS LATE, UM, BUT YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT PLAN IS FROM 2000, UH, SAM, UH, SEPTEMBER, 2000 AS THIS WAS, UH, ONE OF THE LAST APPROVED CONCEPT PLANS FOR COLONY LAKE. AND SO, UH, HIGHWAY SIX IS KIND OF ADD AN ANGLE IN THIS MAP AND YOU CAN SEE THIS PROPERTY, UH, TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, UM, WITHIN THE BOAT MINE THERE. AND SO YOU SEE, UH, THE DRAINAGE FACILITY AND, UH, KIND OF THE PREPLANNING, UH, FOR THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, GREATER THINGS TO THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THEN THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE LAST APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN FOR COLONY LAKE THAT REFERENCES THIS SAME PROPERTY AND THIS, UM, THIS CONCEPT CLAIMS FROM 2002 AND THAT'S THE, THE LAST ONE WE HAVE ON FILE, UM, UH, AS AN APPROVED CONCEPT FOR THE SUBDIVISION. SO THE LAST SECTION OF THE SUBDIVISION WAS, UM, DEVELOPED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LAKE OLYMPIA. IT'S SHOWN US LIKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY HERE, UM, BUT IT IS OIL FIELD ROAD. UM, IT, UH, THE LAST SECTION WAS ON THAT SIDE. AND AFTER THAT POINT, UH, THE DEVELOPER NEVER DEVELOPED A FUTURE SECTION THAT'S SHOWN IN THIS AREA. UM, BUT DEEDED THE PROPERTY OVER TO THE NIGHT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE MUD ENGINEER, UM, SUBMITTED THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, VARIOUS A SITE PLAN THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKGROUND MATERIALS AND MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO MAKE OUT, BUT GENERALLY WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THE ENCLOSED AREA AROUND, UH, WHERE THE PUMP STATION AT FACILITY WOULD BE LOCATED ENCLOSED BY A FENCE. AND THEN, UH, WHERE YOU KIND OF SEE THE, THE BUBBLE CALL-OUT, UM, WOULD BE THE ACCESS ROAD FROM BETHANY BAY DRIVE, UM, TO, UH, PROVIDE ACCESS TO, UH, THE STORM WATER COMPENSATION SITE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, UH, ON THE PLAT, UM, WHEN THIS WAS REVIEWED FOR CONSTRUCTION PLANS, UM, PART OF THOSE, UH, REQUIREMENTS WERE THAT THE FINAL FLAT, UM, BEYOND FILE OR FAT, UM, BE RECORDED, UM, FOR THE SUBDIVISION. SO AGAIN, THIS PORTION WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE COLONY LAKES AREA. EVENTUALLY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PLANTED AS PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION, UM, BUT THE DEVELOPER DEEDED THE PROPERTY TO THE MUD, UM, PRIOR TO, UM, INCLUDING THIS WITHIN A SUBDIVISION PLAT. UM, SO THE, UH, FLAT, UM, BACK HOW THE FLAT, UH, CAME TO BE, UM, UH, WHAT [00:30:01] YOU SEE HERE IS FROM THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WHERE SITE APPROVAL IS REQUIRED, UM, OF THE SUBDIVISION I'VE BEEN IN TRACTOR LAND, UM, PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY UTILITY FACILITY FACILITY, UM, AND PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, UM, PART OF THE OTHER CONDITION WITH THE PLAT IS THAT A FINAL PLAT CAN NOT BE APPROVED UNTIL A PRELIMINARY PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. . SO AS THE, UH, THE MED ENGINEER WAS BEING ASKED TO SUBMIT A PLAT, UM, BASED ON, AND I HAVEN'T SET THE SCHEDULE, I THINK IN THE REPORT, UM, IT PROVIDES ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE MUD ANTICIPATED SUBMITTING CONSTRUCTION PLANS, UM, JUNE, JULY, UH, WITH, UH, BIDDING OF THE WORK, THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, BEGINNING, SEPTEMBER, UM, AND CONSTRUCTION TO START IN OCTOBER. SO BASED ON THAT TIMELINE, UM, AND NOT ANTICIPATING THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PLAT, UM, THE MONEYS THERE WAS LOOKING AT, UM, WAYS THAT THEY COULD, UM, PLAQUE THE PROPERTY, UM, THE QUICKEST. AND SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS IS CALLED THE ABBREVIATED CLOTTING PROCEDURE, UM, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A FAST WAY FOR FLAT RECORD THE PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUIREMENTS, UM, UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS. AND SO THE CONDITIONS ARE LISTED THERE ON THE SLIDE. UM, THE TWO, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE IN BREAD OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT DID NOT NEED, UM, BECAUSE THE, UH, UTILITY SITE WAS GOING TO BE IN ITS OWN SEPARATE REVERSE THAT DOES NOT, UM, IMMEDIATELY, UH, FRONT, UH, DEDICATED STREETS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. . SO THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THE SQP REQUIREMENT WHERE THE CITY DOES REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL, UM, FOR ABOVE GROUND FACILITIES. SO ANY PART OF UTILITY FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO HAVE, UM, VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, UM, WOULD REQUIRE FCC APPROVAL UNLESS IT MEETS CERTAIN CONDITIONS. AND SO IN THOSE CONDITIONS ARE OUTLINED ON THIS SLIDE, UM, WITH A CONDITION THAT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, UM, WAS NOT MEETING, UM, OUTLINED IN RED. SO AS THE PROJECT ENGINEER WORKED ON THE SURVEY WORK, UM, FOR THE PLAQUE, UM, THE LOCATION OF THE ACTUAL STORM WATER PUMP STATION SITE IS ABOUT 150 FEET AWAY FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL LOT. I'M IN THE COLONY LAKE SUBDIVISION. UM, IT IS PLANTED SEPARATELY, UM, AT LEAST IT'S PROPOSED TO BE PLANTED SEPARATELY. UM, BUT THAT, THAT WAS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION. AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ISSUE WITH THE BUFFER YARDS, UM, AND ALSO THE FENCING REQUIREMENTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THE FAC RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR THE SVP ARE, UM, TO APPROVE THE SUP AGAIN, IT WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE ACREAGE, UH, THAT THE MUD, UM, OWNS AND MAINTAINS IN THAT AREA. UM, IT WOULD BE OVER THAT ENTIRE ACREAGE WITH THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT UTILITY WITHIN, UM, THAT SPECIFIC AREA AS CALLED OUT ON THE SITE PLAN, UM, ON THE BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENTS, THE FACT REPORT, UM, DOES ASK THE QUESTION WHETHER ADDITIONAL BUSTLING OR SPRAINING WOULD BE NEEDED. UM, AND SO ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, IF AN SUP, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE BEEN EXEMPTED WOULD BE THAT ANY BUFFER YARD THAT'S TYPICAL, UM, BASED ON SECTION 11 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, WAS IN PLACE. SO THE APICAL BUS APPLICABLE BUFFER YARD TO THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WOULD BE, IT'S A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE THAT ENJOYS THE RESIDENTIAL USE. UM, IT'S RIGHT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UM, WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SO THE TYPICAL BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENT WOULD BE A 20 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE LANES WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO THAT, UH, RESIDENTIAL USE, UM, WITH TYPE A SCREENING, INCLUDING MASONRY WALL. UM, IF THE USE OF THE JOINT ALONG A, A UTILITY PIPELINE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THAT'S A MINIMUM OF 40 FEET THEN TYPE B SCREENING IS COMMITTED. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL THAT UP, UM, SEPARATE FROM THE SLIDE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN OR AT THE PLAQUE THAT'S PROPOSED, UM, THERE IS A, I THINK IT'S A 75, BUT WHY, UM, PIPELINE EASEMENT, UM, THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE, THE, UM, THE SUBDIVISION, UM, WITHIN THIS MUCH FACILITY. SO WE WOULD BE TALKING MORE SO ABOUT TYPE B SCREENING, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF LANDSCAPING. THAT'S CAN WE GO BACK? SO THAT'S WHY JUST FOR A SECOND. [00:35:03] UM, SO THE, THE QUESTION HERE IS, UM, WITH THE BUFFER YARD, UM, WHETHER OR NOT, UM, WELL, ONE THE BUFFER YARD WITH THE, UM, PUMP BEING CITED AS A SEPARATE RIVERA IS TECHNICALLY NOT ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL USE, BUT THE ENTIRE SUP COVERING ALL OF THE, MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. SO THE QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION ON THE FUCKER YARD IS CONSIDERING, UH, THE SITE PLAN CONSIDERING, UM, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, CONSIDERING THE ASPECTS OF THE PUMP STATION FACILITY, IF, UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, BUFFERING, UM, UH, NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT THE PROJECT ENGINEERS SUBMITTED IN RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED. UM, THERE WERE A LIST OF QUESTIONS, UH, THAT, AND WE INCLUDED THAT IN THE PACKET. UM, BUT THIS GIVES A LITTLE BETTER VIEW OF WHAT THOSE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE. UM, SO WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BUFFERING, UM, OR LIKE REDUCING NOISE, UM, YOU KNOW, REDUCING THE VISIBILITY OF THIS FACILITY, UM, THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO, UH, THE AREA IN RED IS WHAT THE PROJECT ENGINEERS, UM, OUTLINED AS, UM, THEIR ONLY ANTICIPATED AREA OF DISTURBANCE. UM, BUT YOU SEE THE HEAVY VEGETATION, HEAVY TREE LINE, UM, THAT'S THIS THING, ALL OF THAT OUTSIDE OF THE RED, WITH THE EXPECTED TO REMAIN, UM, WITH JUST THE ROAD, UM, BEING CARVED OUT, UM, AND THEN THE PUMP STATION SITE, UM, CARVED OUT AS WELL. SO THE VISIBILITY, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC MAY BE MINIMAL, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE PART OF, UM, THE CONSIDERATION ON THE BUFFERING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO ALSO IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S MORE CLARIFICATION FROM THE PROJECT ENGINEERS ON, UM, PARKING, UM, THE ACCESS AS BEING ANTICIPATED FROM A RESIDENTIAL STREET BACK IN THE BAY DRIVE. UM, BUT WHAT THE ANTICIPATED, UM, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE, UM, PARKING, UM, PARKING, UM, FOR THIS FACILITY, UM, WHO WOULD, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY HAVE ACCESS, UH, JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF WHO WOULD BE COMING DOWN THAT RESIDENTIAL STREET, UM, WHAT WOULD BE COMING DOWN THAT RESIDENTIAL STREET, UM, AT WHAT RATE, UH, TO THE PROJECT SITES ALSO ON THE FENCING, UM, THE DEVELOP, THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED, UM, INDICATES AN EIGHT FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE, UM, PROPOSAL CLOSE OF THE SITE, UH, THIS GOING BACK TO THE STP REQUIREMENTS, UM, WOULD REQUIRE, UM, ESSENTIALLY THINK FENCING THAT MATCHES THE COMMUNITY FENCING REQUIREMENTS. AND SO THAT CAN EITHER BE, UM, MASONRY, UM, OR WOOD WITH BRICK TILE AFTER, UM, IN CERTAIN, UM, INTERVALS, UM, YOU KNOW, FINISHED AND, UM, UM, MAINTAIN. UM, SO THE FACT RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS TO REQUIRE A WOOD FENCE, UH, AT A MINIMUM, UM, AROUND THE PERIMETER, UM, MAINTAIN THE HEIGHT AT AC, BUT REQUIRE, UM, OF WOODFIN. AND THEN ALSO, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT, UH, THE CURRENT ZONING IS SPLIT FOR THAT ENTIRE 34, UM, ACRE PROPERTY. UH, SO A PORTION OF IT IS A ZONE RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN A PORTION OF IT IS A COMMUNITY FACILITY. UH, SO THIS RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE LIGHTING IS PROPOSED, UM, FOR THIS PUMP STATION SITE, UM, IS TO APPLY THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES, UH, LIGHTING REGULATIONS, UH, WITHIN THE SVP AND ESSENTIALLY, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM, UH, TO LIMIT OR, UM, CONTROL THE FLOW OF LIGHT THAT THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY MAY EMANATE, UM, OUT TO THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES NEXT. THAT MAY BE ALL I THINK. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL, UM, ON THE, UM, THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE, UM, THE PROJECT ENGINEERS ARE ON THE CALL. SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON, UM, ANY TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE ACTUAL PUMP STATION, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE, UH, RECEIVED A LOT OF PUBLIC INTEREST, UH, FOR THIS FACILITY, UM, HOW IT'S GOING TO OPERATE, UM, WHY IT'S BEING CONSIDERED, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO THE PROJECT ENGINEERS ARE ON THE CALL, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH RESPONSES TO THAT. UM, BUT OVERALL, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S, UH, SEVERAL ASPECTS TO THE PROJECT, UM, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMPUTATION [00:40:01] FOR MITIGATION PURPOSES. AND THEN, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DETAILS, UH, TO GET US TO THAT POINT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, JENNIFER, UH, COMMISSIONER. SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JENNIFER? WELL, JENNIFER, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE REPORT. I THINK IT, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, IT SHOULD ADDRESS MOST OF PEOPLE'S CONCERNS. MOST OF THE QUESTIONS, UM, I GUESS, UM, THE PROJECT ENGINEERS HOPEFULLY CAN ANSWER THE PARKING QUESTION, ALTHOUGH IN MY MIND, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT BEING ANY ISSUE AT ALL. UM, I DIDN'T WANT TO WONDER ABOUT THE WOUND FENCING THING, CAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE CHAIN LINK WITH THE SLAS AND, UM, AND, BUT THAT'S USUALLY WHERE WE HAVE SOME LEEWAY WITH A, LIKE A PD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I GUESS FROM YOUR DESCRIPTION, THE A SUP BASICALLY SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY STANDARDS AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE PROJECT WE'LL HAVE TO BUY INTO THAT, BUT, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY GIVEN THAT. UM, BUT IN GENERAL, I THINK, UH, I THINK THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE REPORT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES AND, UH, AND KIND OF MAP OUT A WAY FORWARD. AND, AND I'LL SAY ON THE FIFTH THING YOU DO, YOU DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY THERE. UM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE WOODFIN THING IS IF THEY HAD ALREADY PLANTED THE PROPERTY AS A, UM, FOR THIS PURPOSE, UM, THE WOODSON TEAM WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THEY DIDN'T NEED SUP APPROVAL, BUT BECAUSE THEY PROPOSED CHAIN LINK FENCING, UM, IT DOESN'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. SO YOU DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY, THE FACT RECOMMENDATION, UM, IF THEY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE WOOD THING, BUT THE COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIN LINK FENCING, ADDING, YOU KNOW, THE VINYL FLAG OR ADDING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROTECTIVE COVERING TO IT FOR GREATER, UH, BREEDING. UM, YOU HA YOU DO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE THAT, THAT RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. I WAS JUST CONSIDERING LONGEVITY OF A WOOD FENCE VERSUS A CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH SLATS. I'M NOT SURE IF ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FROM A, FROM A LONGER TERM VIEW, WHAT THE CONCERN WOULD BE. UM, IS THERE ANY KIND OF WAY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY SEE? CAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A VERY SMALL AREA THAT WILL BE, UM, EXPOSED TO THE SUBDIVISION? UH, YEAH, THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S A SMALL AREA, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HOUSE AROUND. YEAH. OBVIOUSLY TO THE SOUTH. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CARE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UH, FOR CONSISTENCY SAKE, I I'D LIKE TO SEE IT IT'D BE ALL THE SAME AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUTTING A WOOD FENCE IN THE ONE SIDE. HMM. WHAT, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO TO THE SOUTH HANEY? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS THAT JUST ALL? OH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY CLOSE TO THE SOUTH. I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A BIG, HUGE OPEN AREA. YEAH. OPEN AREA THERE. YEAH. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LEVY, UM, AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE LEVEE, YOU HAVE ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN RIVER POINT CHURCH, AND THEN THE POSSIBLE DEEPER MONTESSORI, BUT THE LEVY WAS SCREENED THAT WHOLE FACILITY FROM, FROM ANYTHING TO THE SOUTH. RIGHT. I KNOW ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE RESIDENTS WAS ABOUT THE, UM, THAT, THAT WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE NORTH FACING SIDE. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE, MAKE SURE WE SATISFY THE SCREENING TO THE NORTH SIDE. RIGHT. I WAS JUST MORE SO THINKING ABOUT WHAT COULD COME ON THE SOUTH. YEAH. WELL, OKAY, GOOD. UM, SO WE'LL JUST FOCUS ON THE NORTH. UM, MY OPINION IS THAT WE, BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS, ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WAS THAT THE RESIDENT WAS TOLD NOTHING WAS GONNA EVER REBUILT THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE K CONCEPT PLAN, THEY HAD SLATED HOUSES TO BE BUILT THERE. [00:45:05] OKAY. UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YES. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BAILEY. YES, SIR. UH, ON THE, UH, AGENDA PACKET TOO, I'M LOOKING AT, UH, THE QUESTIONS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC IN RESPONSES FROM THE PROJECT ENGINEER AND CITY STAFF, UH, QUESTION NUMBER 10, WHICH I IS ON PDF PAGE 81. IT SAYS, IN WHICH DIRECTION WILL STORM WATERS BE PUMPED? WILL THEY BE PUMPED OVER THE LEVY AWAY FROM COLONY LAKE SUBDIVISION OR FROM THE OTHER SIDE DUMPING TOWARD THE COLONY LAKES SUBDIVISION THE RESPONSE BY THE PROJECT ENGINEER OR WAS STORMWATER WILL BE DISCHARGED OUT OF THE, UH, FBC MUD SIX 46 AND TWO FLAT BANK CREEK STORMWATER WILL NOT BE PUMPED BACK INTO THE DISTRICT. OKAY. IF YOU SCROLL BACK UP, THERE'S AN IMAGE. I THINK IT'S PDF PAGE 60, IT'S PROCEEDING THE, UH, DRAWINGS OF THE PUMP STATION. IT'S A COLOR PHOTO, A LETTER SIZE THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE OF THE, UH, PROJECT. UH, AND I THINK JENNIFER SHOWED A CLIP OF THIS SNIPPET OF IT. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A UP, BUT IF YOU STAND BACK FROM IT, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE IMAGERY SHOWING CONNIE LAKES, NOT TO THE NORTH AND THEN CREEKSTONE TO THE EAST, I THINK. AND, UH, OR MAYBE SOUTHEAST UNDER STATUS ROTATED. UH, UH, SO IT'S NOT FACING NECESSARILY, BUT MAYBE DIFFERENT. BUT HERE'S MY QUESTION FROM THAT IMAGE. DO I UNDERSTAND THAT OUTLAW, THAT OUTFLOW BEING ONE IN WHICH MAYBE I SHOULD POSE AS A QUESTION WHEN WE SAY IT'S GOING TO FLATTEN BANK CREEK, IS THAT THE CREATE THERE TO THE BOTTOM OUT OF THAT PHOTO, MR. FREEMAN, IF YOU'RE ON WHICH COULD YOU POSSIBLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION PLEASE FOR MR. BAILEY ON MUTE? HELLO, THIS IS JACOB MINTER FROM LJA ENGINEERING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. YES. YES. HELLO. UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US ON HERE TO DISCUSS THE PUMP STATION TONIGHT. AND TO CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION. YES. UM, FLATBED CRANK IS TO THE SOUTHEAST THAT'S APPROXIMATELY MAYBE 1500 FEET ALONG TO THE SOUTHEAST. IT'S CLEAR IN THIS IMAGE, THE PUMP STATION WOULD TAKE FLOWS FROM THAT PRETTY GREEN DISCHARGE FROM COLONY LAKES, WHICH IS UP TO THE NORTH AND ANY WATER THAT GETS TO THAT POINT, WHICH IS THE WHOLE DISTRICT RIGHT NEXT TO THE PUMP STATION WOULD GO SOUTH. AND TO THAT BLUE PENCIL KIND OF LINE DOWN THERE, THE TREES THAT CREEPED A LITTLE NATURAL CREEK IN THE WOODS THERE, AND IT ENDS UP GETTING TO CLAPPING CREEK WOULD JUST TO THE SOUTHEAST, NOTHING WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK UNLESS IT MADE ITS WAY THROUGH THE LEVEE. OKAY. AND I'LL SAY ACTUALLY THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO, TO ACCELERATE IF YOU WILL DRAINAGE FROM THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE COLONY LIGHTS AREA TO WHERE WE CAN REDUCE THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME OF THOSE HOMES, THOSE PROPERTIES FLOODING AS A RESULT OF A HEAVY RAINFALL EVENT, WHATEVER THAT COSTS TO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, 500 YEAR EVENT OR SOME ON THAT ORDER, THAT OUTFLOW, THEN I THINK YOU INDICATED IT WAS IN YOUR RESPONSE OF ANOTHER QUESTION. AND IT'S PROBABLY ALSO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITHIN THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU WERE PRODUCING A FLOW RATE, EACH PUMP ONLY ORDER OF, WAS IT IN, REMEMBER I 14,500 GALLONS A MINUTE FOR EACH PUMP, IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO QUESTION SEVEN, UH, THERE'S THREE PUMPS EACH ONE 14,500 GALLONS PER MINUTE, A TOTAL HEAD OF 10 FEET. CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. HERE'S MY QUESTION THEN. YEAH. AND I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD AND LOOKING AT FIGURE THAT WAS THE FLOW PATTERN AND IT MAY NOT BE A CONCERN OR CONSIDERATION OF THIS COMMISSION OR [00:50:01] THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE PROPERTIES IN AND AROUND ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL? UH, THERE'S A NEW CHURCH THERE, UH, UH, UH, THING, SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN AND AROUND THAT BOUNDARY, THAT WATER THEN IS GOING TO BE FLOWING THROUGH THERE AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE AND MUCH GREATER VOLUME THAN IT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE. AM I CORRECT? IT WOULD YES. BE A POSSIBILITY. UM, YES. OKAY. AND IS THAT, UH, CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONED WRITING ABOUT, UH, JOINING MUDS AND OUTFLOWS AND, AND UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR IMPACT FURTHER DOWNSTREAM. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IF ONE PERSON ONE MONTH PROCEEDED OTHER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL ALLOWED TO, UH, I GUESS TAKE PRECEDENCE IN TERMS OF THE ACTIONS I TAKE TO CONTROL OUTFLOW. UH, NOT ONLY POINT OF REFERENCE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE IS THAT DURING HARVEY, UH, WATER SURROUNDED ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL, THE PARKING LOT WAS FULL. THEY CAME CLOSE TO FILLING THAT, TO BREACHING THE THRESHOLD OF THE, OF THE BUILDING FINISHED FOR, UH, I ACTUALLY SAW IT AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE MAY BE AGGRAVATING THAT CONDITION AT SOME FUTURE EVENT AND KEEP IN MIND THERE TO THE LEFT OF ELK. THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND OVER TO THEIR Y AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE THAT MAY NOT APPEAR ON THE STRONG OR AT LEAST ARE PLANNED. UH, SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE A, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HAVING AN IMPACT ON DRAINAGE IF YOU WILL DOWNSTREAM ABOUT OUTFLOW. UM, IT WOULD, IT IS CORRECT. HOWEVER, THE, UM, BEFORE ANY OF THIS WAS DONE AND THIS CAN BE PROVIDED, IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE IT, THERE IS A DRAINAGE ANALYSIS OF THIS PUMP STATION THAT WAS CONDUCTED. AND IT SHOWS ANY EVENT THAT THIS PUMP STATION IS ACTIVATED, WHAT KIND OF A FLOW PATTERN, WHAT IS EXPECTED. AND WE'RE SHOWING THAT IT WILL NOT IMPACT IN A NEGATIVE WAY ANY OF THE DOWNSTREAM FACILITIES, THEY WILL MAKE IT DOWN TO BLOODBANK CREEK WITHOUT HAVING AN IMPACT. THAT WAS PART OF I'M SORRY. OH YEAH. THERE'S BEEN SOME STUDY DONE TO SAY, OKAY. IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE A, IN FACT, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, DO YOU, WHAT IS YOUR DESIGN OF BEEN AS A HUNDRED YEAR, 200 YEAR, 500 YEAR, UH, RANK ALL EVENTS. UH, WE SHOW SEVERAL EVENTS. UM, THERE WOULD BE 25 YEAR, 100 YEAR AND A COINCIDENCE EVENT, WHICH IS TYPICALLY THE, UH, TYPICALLY THE LEVEL OF A, THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO WHEN GETTING APPROVALS. THE COINCIDENCE OF VANTAGE IS AN EVENT WHERE ALSO THERE'S NO GRAVITY OUTFALL, BASICALLY WATER IS UP TO THE TOP OF THE PIPE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT. SO IT'S AN, THAT WOULD ALMOST NEVER HAPPEN, BUT WE STILL DESIGNED TO IT. AND IN THAT OF THE ACT, YOU'RE SAYING YOUR ANALYSIS SHOW THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A, YOU KNOW, THE WATER STILL FLOWS IN A MANNER A WHILE. MATT WE'LL CALL THAT LITTLE CREEK BED, IF YOU ALL WERE, OR THAT STREAM FEATURE, UH, SOUTH, AND THEN TURNS EAST AND HEATHER WOULD FLAT BANK CREEK, THAT, THAT IT'S STILL A SUFFICIENT CAPACITY OR VOLUME THAT IT COULD DIRECT THAT WATER IN THAT EVENT. WE THINK WITHOUT DETRIMENTALLY AFFECTING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF IT, THAT IS CORRECT. AND I'LL JUST POINT OUT THE NUMBER SOUNDS LARGE, 14,500 GPM. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE AND CLARIFY THAT ONLY TWO OF THE THREE PUMPS ARE EVER EXPECTED TO RUN AT THE SAME TIME. SO REALLY THE CAPACITY WOULD BE 29,000 GPM. AND WE TYPICALLY WORK IN THE ENGINEERING SIDE AND CUBIC FEET PER SECOND, WHICH IF YOU TRANSFER THIS DOWN TO THAT RATIONALE, IT'S MORE AROUND THEM. IT'S 29,000 GPM. SO GIVE OR TAKE 120 CFS, THE PUMPING CAPACITY COMPARED TO WHAT THE DISCHARGES ARE TODAY IS ACTUALLY A MUCH SMALLER NUMBER. THESE PUMPS DO HELP AND ASSIST GREATLY WHEN THERE'S NO GRAVITY OUTFALL, CAUSE THERE'D BE ZERO OTHERWISE, BUT THIS IS, I WON'T SAY IT'S A DROP IN A POND, BUT IT IS NOT A HUMONGOUS AMOUNT COMPARED TO THE AREAS AND GRAVITY DISCHARGES THAT [00:55:01] ARE ALREADY ACCOMMODATED IN THESE DRAINS FEATURES. IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OKAY. NO, I'M WITH YOU. SO, AND I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED MY OTHER QUESTION AND THE CURRENT DESIGN, YOU KNOW, THE, AS IS IT IS WHERE IS THIS WATER DRAINING TO FLATBED CREEK? CAUSE HE WAS STILL GOING THROUGH THIS SAME OUTFALL OR THROUGH THE SAME PATH, IF HE WILL ASK THEM TO PUMP. YES, YES. NOTHING IS BEING ALTERED. OKAY. WE'RE JUST GONNA USE THAT. PUMP HEALTH EXCELLED ARTICLE WILL INCREASE THE FLOW THROUGH THAT OUTFALL KNOW THROUGH THAT PATHWAY, BUT THAT EVEN IN DOING SO THE CENSUS FROM YOUR STUDIES, INCLUDING YOUR WORST CASE SCENARIO OF TOPPING OUT, I GUESS ON THE PUMP THAT YOU STILL WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH OF AN IMPACT TO WHAT'S ALREADY OCCURRED WITHIN THAT SOUTH OF THAT OUTFALL TO WHERE WE THINK THAT IT WOULD APPRECIABLY CONTRIBUTE TO ADDITIONAL FLOODING, YOU KNOW, HIGHER WATER DEPTHS THAN WHAT HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCED, UH, IN THE PAST. AND I GUESS TO THAT POINT, DID YOUR STUDY INCLUDE A HARVEY SCENARIO? WHICH I UNDERSTAND YOU? YEAH, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I WOULD SAY YES, WE DO. AS PART OF THE STUDY, THERE WAS A HARVEY AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO EVEN A MORE EXTREME SCENARIO, UM, WHICH WAS A BENEFIT TO THE COINCIDENCE EVENT, WHICH MEANS NO GRAVITY OUTFALL AND ADDITION TO A 100 YEAR EVENT OCCURRING, WHICH AGAIN WOULD BE A VERY UNLIKELY SCENARIO, BUT WE MODELED IT JUST TO SHOW IT AS PART OF THE STUDY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THEN IF IT'S BEEN CONSIDERED AND IT DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE, UH, ADVERSELY AFFECTING, UH, YOU KNOW, FLOODING IN THAT AREA, THEN, THEN THAT'S OKAY. IT'S A GOOD THING. BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, THAT IMAGE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN HARVEY THAT A PARKING LOT THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE JUST NORTH OF THE ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOT THERE AND THE CARS THAT FIELD WHERE THE FOREMAN ISD, ELKINS HOSPITAL, IF YOU CAN REMOVE THAT LABEL, THAT'S THERE ONE OF THE PRACTICE FIELDS, THE BASEBALL FIELD, ALL THAT, ALL THAT WAS UNDERWATER AFTER HARVEY. AND, UH, THERE WASN'T MUCH MARGIN, BUT IF WE'RE SAYING THAT'S FINE, WE, WE, WE CONSIDER THAT AND YET MAYBE AN INCH OR TWO MORE, BUT YOU KNOW, THEN I THINK WE'RE OKAY. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD IF I COULD JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION. MOST OF THAT AREA, SOUTH OF THE LEVY AND OPTIMIZED COURT IS ACTUALLY ALREADY IN THE 100 YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN. NOT THAT IT CHANGES THE WAY WE DO OR DESIGN, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU SAW THE WATER POOLING AS YOU DID, THAT'S NOT UNEXPECTED BASED ON WHAT THE MODELS SHOW. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE, UM, THERE IS DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW ELEMENTARY IN THE AREA THAT WILL BE SERVED BY THE DISTRICT. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEIR ATTENTION MIGHT, THEY MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER ASSISTING THE HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL, MAYBE BY OVER DETAINING THAT'S UP TO THEM, BUT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP THE SITUATION FOR THEM BY INCREASING THEIR DETENTION ABOVE WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS WELL. YEAH. AGREED AND UNDERSTOOD. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BAILEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR, UM, STAFF'S COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, FLOW MODELS THAT, UH, LJA PRESENTED ON IF THEY SAW THOSE FLOW MODELS OR NOT? YEAH. I'M SORRY, WHAT I LIKE TO SEE THAT REPORT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK STAFF IF THEY SAW THEM? OH, OH, UH, WELL, YEAH. A FAIR QUESTION. UH, JENNIFER, ARE YOU, DID YOU SEE THAT REPORT, JEREMY? YEAH. OKAY. THIS IS JEREMY. YES. SO WE'VE SEEN THE PLANS FOR THIS. WE REVIEWED THEM BACK IN JULY AND ONE OF OUR COMMENTS WAS TO ADD A RECORDED CLASS. I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THE DRAINAGE REPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. JACOB, WHEN WAS THE TIME THAT YOU ALL SUBMITTED THE DRAFT REPORT? UH, I WOULD SAY IT WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY MAYBE THE END OF 2019, UH, BEFORE WE EVEN BEGAN DESIGN ON THIS PUMP STATION, THIS REPORT WAS PRODUCED AND IT WAS PART OF, UH, A LOT OF, UH, DISCUSSION WITH, I KNOW FORT BEN DRAINAGE DISTRICT. UH, UM, I WOULD FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT MISSOURI CITY WAS NOT INCLUDED WITH ALSO SEEING THIS REPORT, [01:00:01] BUT AS POSSIBLE, I CAN'T SAY 100% JEREMY, THIS IS MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER. THIS IS A COMMISSIONER. IS SHASHI KUMAR. THE CITY ENGINEER, IF I MAY CHIME IN AT THIS POINT, YES, PLEASE. SHAFI HI, GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS IN MADAM CHAIR. UH, TYPICALLY I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BROAD PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. WE'VE SEEN IT CROSS FORT BEND COUNTY, A NUMBER OF MURDERS, AND LET'S IN GENERAL, THE DRAINAGE CRITERIA HAS CHANGED IN FORT BEND COUNTY AND THAT'S CALLED WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS ATLAS 14. SO THE ARTERY OR RAINFALL HAS GONE UP. IT WAS SOMETHING IN THE TUNE OF 12 AND A HALF INCHES IN NOW IT'S MORE LIKE 16 AND A HALF. SO A LOT OF THESE MUDS IN LEVEE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS THAT ARE PUMP STATIONS ARE RETROFITTING THEIR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS TO HANDLE ADDITIONAL RAINFALL. THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS IS IT PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL FLOOD PROTECTION TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO THAT IS KIND OF THE MAIN INTENT OF THIS PUMP STATION PROJECT. AND THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT'S DOING. WE'RE ALSO DEALING WITH SEVERAL OTHER ENTITIES. THE SECOND QUESTION ABOUT ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. I THINK THE DEVELOPER'S ENGINEER WAS CORRECT. A LOT OF THAT PROPERTY IS IN WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE FLOOD PLAIN. SO AS WE SEEN NEW DEVELOPMENT COME IN LIKE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THEY'RE HAVING TO DO MITIGATION. WHEN WE MEAN MITIGATION, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE DETENTION AND THEY ARE FILLING THE PROPERTY TO ELEVATE ABOUT THE FLOOD PLAIN. SO IF YOU SEE WATER RATES, IT'S FLOOD PLAIN, BUT THEY'RE RAISING THE BUILDING SLAB ELEVATION. SO THAT THE, ABOUT THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN THAT'S POINT NUMBER TWO, THE THIRD QUESTION ABOUT, HAVE WE SEEN THIS DRAINAGE ANALYSIS? WE CAN CHECK ON THAT. UH, AS PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THIS TO CITY AS WELL AS THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT. AND THEY DO, WHAT'S CALLED A DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS. SO WHEN THEY, UH, PROPOSE TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL FLOW INTO A CHANNEL, IT IS REQUIRED BY BOTH THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND THE CITY THAT THEY DO. THE ANALYSIS THAT THIS DOES NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT AND THE RECEIVING CHANNEL HAS THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THIS. UH, ON TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T RECALL WHETHER THIS WAS SUBMITTED, BUT CERTAINLY STAFF WILL LOOK INTO IT AND PROVIDE A FEEDBACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR CHARMING IN OUR, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, THIS, UH, JAMIE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT? THE OKAY. I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YOU'RE GOING IN AND OUT. WOULD YOU STATE HIS NAME AGAIN? BEADS. MONKTON. OKAY. B JOHNSON. OKAY. B JOHNSON. UM, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, UH, SPEAK WITH US AT THIS TIME. IF YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND, UM, YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. WE'LL MAKE ONE MORE CALL FOR LAST NAME JOHNSON TO SEE HOW WE WOULD LET THEM IN. OKAY. IS THERE ANY, OH, SHE LEFT. OKAY. THIS WAS THE PERSON THAT SUBMITTED THE EMAIL PROTEST LETTER. OKAY. BRANDON JOHNSON. BRANDON JOHNSON. OKAY. MAYBE JUST ON THE PHONE TO PHONE NUMBERS. I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE, BUT I DON'T SEE A JOHNSON ON THE ATTENDEE LIST. YEAH, I DON'T EITHER. WHAT'S THAT? WHERE'S. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. WHILE THE PRESENTATION WAS TAKING PLACE, I SEE AN EMAIL. HOLD ON. YEAH, IF HE'S HAVING TROUBLE LOGGING IN. OKAY. [01:05:01] CALLED LET ME SEE IF I CAN CALL HIM AND JOIN THEM AFTER THE CALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET ME TRY IT ONE MORE TIME. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. HE'S NOT PICKING UP. I JUST LEFT A MESSAGE. UM, MAYBE WE CAN GIVE HIM A MINUTE OR PEER OF THREE, OR IF HE LOGGED ON, HE SAYS, OKAY, WE NEED THE MOBILE ONE. SO IS IT COMING IN OR DO WE HAVE ANYONE COMING IN THE CAR? NOT RIGHT NOW. NO. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WHILE WE WAIT TO SEE IF, UH, MR. JOHNSON IS GOING TO JOIN US? THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVERTON. AND I HAD A QUESTION AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE REPORT IS CONCERNED, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OUTFLOW IS GOING TO DROP INTO FLAT CREEK. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MUDS WHERE THEY ARE DROPPING OUTFLOW INTO THAT PARTICULAR CREEK? AND SO IN YOUR DRAINAGE REPORT, DO YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE OTHER MONTHS IN THE AREA, AS FAR AS HOW IT WILL AFFECT THEIR OUTFLOWS? THAT'S MY QUESTION, MR. MENTOR. YEAH. SO, UH, AS FAR AS THE, YES, THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM, THAT WOULD BE THAT HAVE ONE OF THEM IS I THINK SIANNA, THEY HAVE A, A FACILITIES DOWNSTREAM AS WELL. ALL OF THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. AS PART, AS OUR DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, WE LOOK FOR THE EXTREME EVENTS FLOWS. IT'S PART OF THE DATA FROM THE COUNTY. AND WE USE THOSE NUMBERS WHENEVER WE RAN OUR OVERALL ANALYSIS AND WE CAME UP WITH ELEVATIONS POST AND PRE OF WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE. AND IT'S VIRTUE. IT IS BASICALLY NEGLIGIBLE BETWEEN OUR FACILITY BEING ACTIVE, BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, THE AMOUNT OF FLOW BEING IN THE MANY, MANY THOUSANDS IN THIS CHANNEL AND UNDER THESE CONDITIONS, CAUSE THESE ARE HEAVY RAINFALL CONDITIONS. AND THE AMOUNT THAT AT LEAST FROM THE PUMP STATION IS IN THE TUNE OF 100 CFS VERSUS THOUSANDS, BUT ALSO CONSIDER THAT THERE'S NO GRAVITY FLOW. WHENEVER THIS FRONT STATION IS ACTIVE, WHICH MEANS THE CAPACITY OF 800 CFS OR 1000 CFS THAT NORMALLY COULD DISCHARGE TO OUR OUTFALL STRUCTURE IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. AND IT IS ONLY THE PUMPS WHICH ARE ACTIVE. SO INSTEAD OF 800, YOU AND HAVE 100 IS OUR OUTFALL EFFECTIVELY. IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. SO YOU HAD MENTIONED SIANNA WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR DRAINAGE REPORT AS FAR AS EXTREME FLOW. ONE OF THE NEARBY, UH, FACILITY THAT I AM PERSONALLY [01:10:01] AWARE OF THAT HAS A FACILITY THAT DISCHARGES INTO THE CREEKS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED POSSIBLY BECAUSE IT'S A MUCH LARGER DRAINAGE AREA THAN JUST OUR MUD. OBVIOUSLY THE MUD IS CONNECTED TO OTHER MUDS. AS YOU MENTIONED, THEN EVERYTHING'S RELATED FLAT BANK CREEK COMES UP TO PLACE YOUR CREEK JUST A LITTLE BIT UPSTREAM FROM THAT IMAGE THAT YOU SAW. THERE'S A, UM, A FORK, JUST A FEW THOUSAND FEET UPSTREAM AND IT CONNECTS TO OYSTER CREEK, WHICH IS PART OF THE RE ANALYSIS OF THE BRAZOS RIVER WAS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPACT OF OYSTER CREEK BECAUSE DURING HARVEY, THE, THE FLOOD CONDITIONS THAT WE EXPERIENCED WERE ACTUALLY NOT AS EXTREME AS THE MODELS WOULD HAVE INDICATED. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE REVISION THAT THE COUNTY FORTMAN COUNTY, THE BRAZOS RIVER AUTHORITY, SORRY, IS WORKING ON WITH CORBIN COUNTY. IT WAS TO MAKE IT MORE APPLICABLE. AND THE OYSTER CREEK, WHICH IS JUST A STREAM OF FLAT BAND CREEK IS AN, IS PART OF THE REASON WHY IT'S ACTUALLY THE FULL, THE FLOOD CONDITIONS WERE NOT AS EXTREME AS WE WOULD'VE THOUGHT DURING THE HARVEY EVENT FOR THE DISTRICT, BUT AS A RESULT OF THAT AS 14 CONDITIONS AND WHAT THE MODELS SHOW, IT WAS CONSIDERED TO BE NECESSARY AND A BENEFIT TO THE DISTRICT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PUMP STATION. AS WE HAVE ADAM CHEN, THIS IS SHASHI KUMAR CITY ENGINEER. IF I MAY CHIME IN ON THIS, PLEASE. YES, PLEASE. UH, COMMISSIONERS AND MADAM CHAIR. I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE MORE ISSUE. UH, IT IS TYPICAL FOR CITI TO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS AND STUDY BEFORE WE APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS. IN THIS CASE, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE NOT APPROVED THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN. SO WE WILL REVIEW THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON FLAT BANK CREEK. IT IS A VERY BIG REGIONAL DRAINAGE CHANNEL. YOU'D SERVE A NUMBER OF DRAINAGE ENTITIES, INCLUDING MUD 46. THE WAY THIS CHANNEL WORKS IS WHEN THE BRAZOS IS LOW, A LARGE PART OF THE CITY DRAINS INTO FLAT BANK AND INTO THE BRAZEL SERVER. AND WHEN THE BRASS IS HIGH, THAT WATER CAN BACK UP INTO FLAT BANK CREEK. THE LEVY SYSTEMS PROTECTS THE HOMES, BUT THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY LOCAL RAINFALL, THAT'S FALLING INTO MALI, THE PALM STATIONS SUCH AS THE ONE THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE DRAINS THOSE AREAS BACK INTO FLAT BANK CREEKS. THAT IS IN GENERAL HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS. AND TO ANSWER YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, FLAT BANK CREEK SERVES A NUMBER OF DRAINAGE ENTITIES, INCLUDING MARCH 26 BACK TO EACH COMMISSIONER. OKAY. THANK YOU SO VERY, VERY MUCH. UH, MS. EDWARDS, I'M SORRY. HOLD ON. BEFORE I DO THAT, DO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF ENGINEERING? UH, SHASHI? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS. OKAY. IS EDWARDS, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IF WE CAN'T, AGAIN, I STATED THIS MIGHT BE OUR FIRST CHALLENGE TO THIS SAM MARSHALL. YES. HE, HE SAYS HE HAS HIS HAND RAISED AND I JUST CALLED THEM. YES, CAROLINE. YES. HELLO? YES, SIR. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. WE CAN HEAR YOU. WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY. MY NAME IS BRANDON JOHNSON AND I LIVE AT SEVEN THREE ZERO SEVEN FOUR. YOUR CIRCLE IN MISSOURI CITY AND SEVEN SEVEN FOUR FIVE FIVE NINE. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION PER SE AS YET, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO HAVE THIS BUILT. THIS WOULD BE BUILT RIGHT DIRECTLY NEXT TO MY HOME. AND, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE BOUGHT THIS PARTICULAR HOME, WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS A GAS LINE THERE, AND THERE WAS OTHER THINGS THERE THAT WOULD NOT BE BUILT UPON MEANING THERE'S A PIECE OF WOODS OR LAND THAT THERE'S A STRIP THERE THAT, UM, IT WAS ABOUT 50 YARDS OR SO THAT BREAKS THAT OUR HOME AND THE FIELD, THIS BEING SAID, THIS MAY DRAMATICALLY AFFECT SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS PROPERTY VALUE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S MEANT FOR, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LAND ON THAT SIDE THAT THIS COULD PROBABLY BE BUILT SOMEWHERE ELSE AS OPPOSED TO DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF SOMEONE'S HOME. SO, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF NOISE. IS IT GOING TO BE THIS? IS IT GOING TO BE THAT, DOES IT DISRUPT WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE? I, UH, VIETNAM AGAIN, AS OPPOSED TO DOING THIS, UM, AND [01:15:01] WHATEVER I NEED TO DO. I MEAN, I WILL PUT MY FULL ATTENTION TOWARDS THIS ITEM TO NOT HAPPEN BESIDE MY HOME. UM, AND WHATEVER ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR ME TO DO THIS. HOWEVER FAR YOU GO, UM, I'M WILLING TO TAKE IT THERE. I'VE RAISED MY CHILDREN HERE. I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO IS STILL GOING TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HERE THAT I STILL HAVE TO BE HERE FOR A FEW MORE YEARS. THAT BEING SAID, AS LONG AS I'M HERE, I DON'T WANT THAT NEAR MY HOME. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO BEING BUILT ANYWHERE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF, OF, OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMEONE WANTS IT NEAR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S FINE. BUT THIS AFFECTS ME PERSONALLY. AND I KNOW THAT POLITICS IS LOCAL. SO THEREFORE I SAY, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING ME, BUT I DO NOT WANT THIS BEING BUILT NEAR MY HOME AND WHATEVER OTHER MEETINGS I NEED TO ATTEND. UM, I APOLOGIZE FOR COMING IN LATE ON THIS ONE, BUT AGAIN, I NEEDED TO BE KNOWN THAT I WOULD NOT LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN AND WHOMEVER I NEED TO SPEAK TO OR GO AS HIGH AS I NEED TO BE AT THE COMPANIES WHO ARE TRYING TO BUILD IT. IF I NEED TO SPEAK WITH THEIR CEO OR WHOMEVER IS IN CHARGE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THAT, THAT THAT'S FINE WITH ME. WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. JOHNSON, WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING IS, UM, AFTER THIS PHASE, UH, THIS PROJECT WILL MOVE FORWARD OVER TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OKAY. STATE YOUR CONCERNS THERE. OKAY. WELL, THAT BEING SAID ALSO THEN THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCILS BEFOREHAND, BEFORE ALL OF THIS EVEN GOES THAT FAR. IF I CAN PLEASE GET AN EMAIL OR NAMES OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO WHOM THEY MAY PARTICULARLY BE, I'D APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. AND WHENEVER THEY HAVE TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY OR IN A GROUP OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE TO LET IT BE KNOWN WHAT MY PARTICULAR FEELINGS ARE ABOUT WHAT IS TRYING TO HAPPEN NEAR MY HOME, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF, OKAY, THIS IS BUILT AND WHAT HAPPENS. ORDER OVERFLOWS INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND I SAW THE WATER RISE UP. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THE REBUILDING AND RIVERSTONE FINE, IT MAKES THAT HOME FEED VALUE GO UP, BUT IT BUILDS SOMETHING LIKE WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND IT FLOODS OVER INTO MOM NEIGHBORHOOD. THEN WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE ME? YOU KNOW, AND I GET IT. YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE ARE EDUCATED IN THESE THINGS. I'M EDUCATED IN DIFFERENT THINGS AND ALL THE NUMBERS AND THE, THIS AND THE, THAT, AND THE SCIENTIFIC NOTION OF IT, ALL THAT THAT'S FINE AND DANDY. BUT AS A HUMAN BEING, WE ALSO KNEW THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO ONLY BE A 500 YEAR RANGE OF CLUBS, BUT SWITCH, WE'VE SEEN ABOUT THREE OF THOSE IN THE LAST 10 TO 12 YEARS. SO THAT BEING SAID, ME BEING AN ACCOUNT, YOU, WE KNOW THAT AVERAGES OR WHAT YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM. YOU CAN PUT YOUR HAND IN THE OVEN AND PUT ONE IN THE FREEZER. YOU CAN HAVE AN AVERAGE OF A HUNDRED. SO THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WILL HAPPEN, QUOTE UNQUOTE, WITH THIS 500 SITUATION AGAIN? WELL, THE FLOODING TO MY AREA, SINCE NOTHING WILL BE DUG UP OR TRENDS WILL BE MADE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, OR IF IT DOESN'T WORK OR QUOTE UNQUOTE SOMETHING BREAKS. AND THAT'S JUST ANOTHER ITEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'VE GOT TO BE CONCERNED WITH RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME, MAYBE A HUNDRED YARDS AWAY. SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE NAMES AND NUMBERS, OH, THIS ACCOUNT JOHNSON, HOLD ON JUST ONE SEC. WE CAN ENSURE THAT YOU RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION. UH IIJIMA IF YOU WOULD PLEASE EMAIL HIM THAT INFORMATION AND THE PROTOCOL THAT HE WOULD NEED TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH TRYING TO GET DONE WITH WHAT HE NEEDS WITH WHAT HE'S REQUESTING, UM, AT THIS POINT WHERE WE ARE. AND I'M SO SORRY, MR. JOHNSON, THAT YOU MISSED MOST OF THE CALL, UH, THE APPLICANT DID TAKE SOME TIME OUT TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENT OUTFLOWS OF WHICH WAY THE WATER WOULD FLOW AND, UM, OKAY, WONDERFUL. WONDERFUL. WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE HERE. OKAY. NO, I WAS, I WAS LISTENING. I NEED TO HEAR IT, NOT THE OUTFLOW AND WHERE IT WOULD POSSIBLY GO DOWN TOO AND WHATNOT, BUT ALSO KNOWING THE BUSINESS THAT I'VE BEEN IN, I'VE ALSO SEEN THINGS HAPPEN TO WHERE PIPES BREAK OR THINGS. DON'T THE PROJECT DOESN'T TURN OUT THE WAY THAT WE QUOTE UNQUOTE WANTED IT TO BE THE TIME DELIVERY OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, THE MONEY EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THOSE. EVERY HUMAN'S GOT A HAND OR A TOUCH IN IT. SO ALSO WHEN YOU SAY IT GOES HERE OR THERE, I GET THAT, BUT THERE'S ALSO CERTAIN THINGS IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BUILT FOR A REASON. AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A VOICE TO SPEAK ON THAT. I'M JUST VOICING WHAT I KNOW TO BE TRUE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING ME. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. MS. EDWARDS, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, OR I'M SORRY, ONLINE. [01:20:03] CLEAR. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING LUCAS. SO MOVE. THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, IS THERE A SECOND? HELLO COMMISSIONERS. IS THERE A SECOND ERASMUS, THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? OKAY. WONDERFUL. THAT MOTION CARRIES. UM, AT THIS POINT WE WERE AT CONSIDER APPROVING A FINAL REPORT ON ITEM SEVEN, A, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE STAFF'S COMMENTS. IS THERE A MOTION I'LL CALL FOR THE MOTION AGAIN? IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CONSIDER APPROVING? THIS IS THE FINAL REPORT OR AN ISSUE PAIN. MR. BAILEY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. O'MALLEY SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. O'MALLEY. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. AS WELL. ANY NAYS NAME? MS. LUCAS WOULD BE A NAME. ANY OTHER NAMES? ARE THERE ANY ABSTENTIONS OR RECUSALS SCARING OCEAN. THANK YOU, MS. SILVERTON, NO NAMES. WE HAVE ONE DAY AND THE REST OR ALL EYES WITH ONE RECUSAL. THE MOTION DOES CARRY. [6D. FORT BEND COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NO. 46] WE WILL MOVE NOW BACK TO ITEMS SIX D AND THIS WILL BE, WE WILL, THESE ARE GOING TO BE SOME VARIANCES. HERE'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO GET REALLY TOUGH. MR. HANEY. SO YOU HELPED ME ALONG HERE. ALRIGHT. FORT THEN MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT MUD 46. THEY WANT US TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO DEVIATE FROM SECTION 82 DASH 91 OF THE CITY'S ORDINANCE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW AN APPLICANT TO SUBMIT A FINAL APPLICATION TO THE COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION, WITHOUT SUBMITTING A PRELIMINARY PLAT BEGINNER FOR YOU ALL. YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH ANYTHING ELSE FROM THAT? UH, ACTUALLY I DO AS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD WORK. MS. WA, WELL, JENNIFER, ARE YOU IN A POSITION WHERE YOU COULD TAKE, OOH, HOW DO WE WANT TO DO THIS? CAN YOU TAKE BOTH OF THE VARIANCES AT THE SAME? OR WHAT ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? UM, WE CAN, WE CAN GO THROUGH THEM SEPARATELY. IT'S STILL RELATED TO THE, UM, SUP OF PRESENTATION. SO, UM, THE, WE, WE CAN TAKE IT SEPARATELY. THAT'S THAT'S FINE. ARE YOU SURE? OKAY. OKAY. WE'LL TAKE ITEM FIRST. SO THE FIRST VARIANT IS THAT FEEDBACK COMING FROM MY PHONE OR SOMEONE ELSE'S. OKAY. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? WE CAN NOW MISS CHANNEL. OKAY. SO THE FIRST IS, IS A REQUEST TO, UM, ESSENTIALLY, UH, SEEK APPROVAL FOR A FINAL THOUGHT WITHOUT, UM, SUBMITTING A PRELIMINARY CLASS. AND, UH, THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE FINAL THOUGHT THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. UM, IF YOU RECALL FROM THE PRESENTATION, A, UH, THE ABBREVIATED PATTI PROCEDURE ALLOWS FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO WAIVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT IF, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION MEETS CERTAIN CONDITIONS. AND SO THOSE CONDITIONS AGAIN ARE, UM, EACH RESERVE MUST FRONT OF DEDICATED STREETS. UM, ALL UTILITY DRAINAGE AND OTHER EASEMENTS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. UM, IT DOES NOT CREATE A SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE PROBLEM. ALL UTILITIES [01:25:01] ARE IN PLACE AND ONLY TAP INTO THOSE EXISTING, UM, UTILITY SYSTEMS ARE REQUIRED AND IT HAS A MINIMUM 200 FOOT, UH, STREET FRONTAGE IF IT'S ADJACENT TO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, UM, OR 65 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET. SO, UM, AS WE DISCUSSED WITH THE SUP, UM, THE PLAQUE CONTAINS TWO, UM, UH, TO RESERVE ONE WOULD BE FOR THE PUMP STATION SITE. AND THEN THE REMAINING RESERVE WOULD BE THE BALANCE OF THAT 34.66 ACRES. SO THE PUMP STATION FIVE RESERVE ITSELF IS NOT FRONT, UM, UH, DEDICATED STREETS. SO STAFF WAS NOT ABLE TO, UH, WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT. AND SO THE, UH, UH, DEVELOP OR THE MUD IS SEEKING, UM, APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSION TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A PRELIMINARY CLASS. THAT'S FOR MOST OF THESE VARIANCES, RIGHT? I, THEY DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH. SO STAFF CAN DO IT, SO WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT, RIGHT. IT'S KIND OF BLACK AND WHITE. I MEAN, I'M SORRY. THAT WAS ME. I, I HAD TO, MY COMPUTER FROZE UP AND I WAS TRYING TO DIAL IN BECAUSE I COULDN'T COMMENT OR SAY ANYTHING IN THIS IS THE WAY I WANT TO ADD THAT YOU CAN APPROVE IT, BUT THERE'S A STANDARD YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IN MAINTENANCE. SAY THAT AGAIN. I'M SORRY. YOU CUT OUT WITH ME. IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE WAS A STATE THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU DECIDE TO GRANT OR DENY APPEARANCE WITH DENNIS, YOU SAID HE TOOK THE STANDARD, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT. SO THEY'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE BECAUSE THERE'S A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE OR CONDITION AFFECTING THE PROPERTY. IN QUESTION ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHAPTER WOULD DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF A SUBSTANTIAL PROPERTY, RIGHT? AND IF THE VARIANCE IS GRANTED WILL NOT MATERIALLY MATERIALLY DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE OR INGRESS TO OTHER PROPERTY OR PROPERTY RIGHTS, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. RIGHT. HE WAS SAYING THAT AS JENNIFER WAS SPEAKING ABOUT THE ABBREVIATED HUT PROCESS, THE APPLICANT MET THE THINGS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE CODE. THEN THE DIRECTOR COULD, UM, ALLOW THE APTITUDE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE FINAL PLAT, BUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET THAT STANDARD, THEY ASKING YOU FOR A VARIANCE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE FINAL FLAT POSSIBLE. AND YOU CAN DO THAT WITH THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU ABOUT TODAY? WELL, WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, IF, IF THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE THAT THE, THAT THIS SITUATION MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT STAFF COULD RECOMMEND IT, WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT, BUT SINCE THEY DON'T MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THAT'S WHY IT HAD TO COME TO US. THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING, UH, IN MY MIND, THE BIGGEST REQUIREMENT. OH, GO AHEAD, MS. WAY. I'M SORRY, PLEASE. I'M DONE. I WAS GOOD. I JUST WANTED TO POINT YOU TO THE SCANDAL BECAUSE, UM, I THANK YOU. I THINK THAT IN MY MIND, THE BIGGEST VARIANCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLY AND TRULY DEAL WITH IN REGARDS TO, UM, WELL, I GET WHY THEY'RE ASKING US FOR IT, BUT I THINK STAFF HAD ENOUGH COMMENTS INSIDE OF THE REPORT. WHEREAS AS LONG AS THEY'RE ALL, AS LONG AS THE AFRICAN IS WILLING, MEET ALL THOSE CONDITIONS, WE COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER THIS WELL, OTHER COMMISSION, I HOPE WE'RE OFF. WE'RE GOING DOWN THE WRONG TRACK HERE. OKAY. SO NORMALLY THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A PRELIMINARY PLAT, A FINAL PLAT. THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SHORT SHORTEN THE PROCESS. NORMALLY IF THOSE FOUR OR FIVE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE MET, STAFF COULD WAIVE THE PRELIMINARY, PROBABLY OFF PLAT ON THEIR OWN, BUT BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY DOESN'T MEET THOSE FOUR OR FIVE CRITERIA, IT HAS TO COME TO US TO SAY, THIS IS A VALID SITUATION TO WAIVE THE PRELIMINARY PLOT. AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT. OKAY. AND THE SECOND ITEM HAS TO DO, IT'S JUST A FOLLOW ON, WELL, IF [01:30:01] YOU DON'T HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT AT A FINAL PLAT, YOU CAN'T GET BUILDING PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL PERMITS. OKAY. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO COMPRESS THE TIMELINE HERE INSTEAD OF TAKING THREE MONTHS TO GO THROUGH THE PLUMBING FLAT PROCESS AND THE FINAL FLAT PROCESS FOR THEM TO START WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. JENNIFER, CAN THE SLIDE BE PUT BACK UP AS TO WHY, UM, STAFF COULD NOT RECOMMEND IT OR, SORRY, IT'S NOT THAT THEY COULDN'T RECOMMEND IT. THEY COULDN'T BYPASS. THEY COULDN'T MAKE THE DECISION BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MEET THE CRITERIA. THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. THE BIGGEST ISSUE ON THE, UM, ABBREVIATED FIGHTING FOR FEVER WAS BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT KEY REPAIR WHEN REGARD JUST FOR THE PUMP STATION SITE, AND THEN ONE REGARD THAT ENCOMPASSES, UM, THE REMAINING ACREAGE. SO IT DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT THAT ALL OF THE RIVER, UM, FRONT, A DEDICATED STREET, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER CONDITION, UM, ARE IN PLAY. OKAY. OKAY. GOT IT. UM, IS THERE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE SIX D ONE AND TWO, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THREE SEPARATELY. OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ACCEPT, UH, ITEM 61 AND SIX D TWO, WHICH WOULD, UM, GRANT VARIANCES TO DEVIATE FROM SECTION 82 DASH SEVEN AND 82 DASH NINE ONE. IS THERE A SECOND? CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION FOR A SECOND? RIGHT. SO THE CRITERIA LET'S GET THE SECOND FIRST, AND THEN LET'S HAVE MORE DISCUSSION PLEASE. THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. O'MALLEY. NOW FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, IS THE CRITERIA REASONABLE AND IS, UH, HOW MUCH FLEXIBILITY SHOULD WE GIVE STAFF TO MAKE AN OVERRIDE? I MEAN, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT BECAUSE IT ALL MAKES SENSE. WHY WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE ON THE STAFF LEVEL? EXACTLY. I AGREE. OR IS IT THAT STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY BASED ON THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS? RIGHT. THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION IS THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN A CERTAIN WAY AND JUST HAPPENS TO FALL IN A VERY ODD MUNICIPAL SITUATION IS NOT EXPECTED. THE WHOLE THING CAME ABOUT. IS THAT THE CASE? YES. YES. UM, IT, SO THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT CONSIDERED, UM, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE THE UTILITY LAYOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THE PROVISIONS FOR UTILITIES ARE IN PLACE. UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DRAINAGE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, DETENTION CONSIDERATIONS. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT MORE, UH, TECHNICAL DETAIL WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT, UM, AS TO HOW THAT SUBDIVISION, UH, FITS INTO A LARGER SYSTEM. UM, SO THE ABBREVIATED WAVING THE PRELIMINARY, UM, ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT MOST IT'S IN PLACE. AND WE'RE RIGHT NOW JUST TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CREATING THOSE PROPERTY LINES, UM, AND DOING THE LEGAL FORM OF COMP FORM AND CONTENT REQUIRED FOR A PLAQUE TO BE FILED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. HOW WOULD WE KNOW, HOW WOULD IT BE KNOWN THAT THEY WILL NOT DEVIATE FROM THE LAYOUT AND, AND EVERYTHING WITHOUT THEM SUBMITTING THAT PRELIMINARY PLAN, ONCE THEY GET THE PERMIT, HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT THEY WILL NOT DEVIATE FROM THEM? WHO'S GOING TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE CORRECTLY. WELL, SO IT'S, IT'S THE LAYOUT OF, UM, SO THINKING ABOUT, LIKE, IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE A SUBDIVISION, UM, FLAT, YOU'RE LAYING OUT THE STREET RIGHT AWAY, YOU'RE LAYING OUT, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL LOT SECOND NEXT TO THAT STREET. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FABULOUS PUSHING THE UTILITIES, UM, GIVING PERMISSION FOR THOSE UTILITIES TO NEXT, UM, TO PROVIDE, UM, SERVICE TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THOSE LOTS. UM, [01:35:01] SO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT LOOKS AT ALL OF HOW, UM, THOSE SYSTEMS CONNECT AND MAKING SURE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH, UH, THE CITY CODES AND ORDINANCES. SO IN THE CASE OF FINAL PLAT, MOST ALL OF THAT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN, UM, ESTABLISHED, UM, OR REVIEWED AT SOME POINT. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE ABBREVIATED PLATTING PROCEDURE, UM, SETS UP THAT ESSENTIALLY NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE LIKE AN INFIELD, UM, A PROPERTY THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WAS PLANTED AROUND IT. UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE CASE HERE. UM, EVERYTHING IS KIND OF PLANTED AND DEVELOPED AROUND IT. AND SO NOW THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS, YOU KNOW, BEING IMPROVED. UM, BUT, UM, IT NEEDS TO BE RECORDED INTO THE REAL PROPERTY RECORDS, BUT IT'S NOT ESTABLISHING, YOU KNOW, THE STREETS. IT'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, , I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY GOT THE EASEMENT. UM, THE EASEMENTS NEEDED, YOU KNOW, THIS PURPOSE, UH, THAT, THAT SUBDIVISION, UM, THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. SO ALL THIS SUBDIVISION IS DOING IT'S TYING INTO AN EXISTING SYSTEM. SO IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PLAT. THERE'S NOT A CHANGE, UM, THAT WOULD OCCUR, UM, BECAUSE THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION STILL GOES THROUGH ITS OWN PLANNED REVIEW, UH, LIKE THIS, UH, WINTER, UH, CONSTRUCTION CLAIM REVIEW. IT'LL STILL GO THROUGH THAT AND IT STILL HAS TO MEET A CITY CODE. UM, BUT THE PLAT ITSELF, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS OR ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO SAY, UM, ADDITIONAL LAND WAS NEEDED FOR THE DRAINAGE PURPOSES OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS WERE NEEDED, UM, TO PROVIDE UTILITY SERVICE, UH, TO THE PROPERTY. UM, THOSE WOULD BE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NEED A UTILITY PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CALCULATIONS, ALL OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REVIEWED AND CONSIDERED, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN THIS SITUATION. JENNIFER DID THE APPLICANT STATE, WHY HE'S PUSHING IT LIKE THIS, THERE THEY'RE STILL ON THE CALL, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER HANEY, UM, SUMMARIZE IT, UH, PRETTY WELL. HE JUST SAID THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE THREE MONTHS. YEAH. THEY HADN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION IN OCTOBER. AND, UM, SO LOOKING AT, UM, PLANNING OF PROPERTY RECORDING THE PROPERTY, UM, BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THE PROCEDURE OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, BUT THE ACTUAL REVIEW OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHETHER IT'S CONSEQUENCE CONSEQUENTIAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, IS THE QUESTION, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VOTE. NOW, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. HOW DO YOU THINK? I THINK I HAVE AN EYE FROM O'MALLEY AND I FROM BAILEY AND I FROM HANEY. THAT WOULD BE THREE EYES. I VOTE. AYE. THAT'S FOUR. ARE THERE ANY NAYS MS. LUCAS? THANK YOU, MS. OVERSON, WILL YOU BE RECUSING? I ABSTAIN. OH, ABSTAIN. OKAY. VERY WELL. EMOTION DOES CARRY WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM THREE. WE'LL CONSIDER THIS, THAT WE JUST COVERED AS AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT. WE'LL NEVER SEE THIS AGAIN. NO, NO OTHER CHANCES AFTER THIS, JENNIFER, BACK TO MY QUESTION. UM, THE ONLY CONDITION THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS OUTSTANDING WAS THE, UH, THE SUP FOR THIS THERE'S SOME OTHER ITEMS ON THERE. UM, JUST SOME GENERAL FORMAT CONTENT. SO THERE IS THE STREET THAT NEEDS TO BE LABELED, UM, SOME NOTES THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED. UM, AND THEN, UH, SOME EASEMENTS, BUT JUST NEED TO BE CLARIFIED, UH, THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN A TITLE REPORT PROVIDED. SO THERE ARE A FEW OTHER ITEMS THAT JUST NEED TO BE ADDED, UM, OR REVISE ON THE FLAT IN ADDITION TO THE, THE SEC. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THIS FINAL CLOUT WITH CONDITIONS. THANK YOU, MR. HANEY FOR YOUR MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? [01:40:01] THANK YOU, MR. O'MALLEY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE. ANY NAYS? ANY EXTENSIONS? ABSTAIN LUCAS. OKAY. AND THAT WAS OVER 10 AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION DOES CARRY MADAM CHAIR. YES. JUST RAN WITH LJ. I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. I KNOW IT'S KIND OF LONG AND INVOLVED, BUT WE DO GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. AND JUST WANT TO SAY IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. [7B. PUBLIC HEARING FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT] WE'LL MOVE NOW ONTO ITEMS SEVEN B. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. IT'S A REQUEST BY WILLIAM BILL PETTICREW TO A BMP D DISTRICT NUMBER 23 TO ALLOW FOR THE LOCATION OF A PAWN SHOP. ALRIGHTY. UM, SO THIS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UH, COLONY LAKE, UH, SUBDIVISION AND SOME HERE. SO RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY SIX AND OILFIELD ROAD, UM, THE PD ITSELF, THE BOUNDARIES OF IT ARE OUTLINED IN YELLOW. SO IT INCLUDES THE GAS STATION THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A SMALL SHOPPING CENTER. UM, THAT IS PART OF THIS PD. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY THAT'S OUTLINED IN RED, UH, TO RELOCATE, UM, HIS PAWN SHOP BUSINESS. THAT IS JUST TO THE NORTH, UM, ON HIGHWAY SIX, UM, JUST NORTH OF THE CHELSEA PEOPLE, UH, THAT SHOWN IN THE PICTURE. AND SO HE'S LOOKING TO RELOCATE, UM, THE PAWN SHOP THERE. SO IT WOULD BE NEW CONSTRUCTION, UM, ON THIS, UH, SITE. UM, AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UM, A PAWN SHOP BUSINESS, UM, GENERAL, UH, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, UH, PD 23, UH, THE USE OF PERMITTED CURRENTLY OUR LC TO REFILL USES. UH, SO THOSE ARE USUALLY WHAT WE QUALIFY AS LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE SERVICES. UM, THE PD HAS AN EXCEPTION THAT DOES ALLOW FOR GUESTS, UH, GAS, GAS, SALES, UH, GAS STATION, UH, TYPICALLY GAS STATIONS ARE USED BY, RIGHT, AND THE LC THREE, A RETAIL DISTRICT, AS OPPOSED TO, UH, THE LCC, EXCUSE ME. AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE PD ALLOWS FOR, UM, A MEDICAL USE, UH, WHICH AT THE TIME WAS AN MRI CENTER THAT LOCATED IN THE SHOPPING CENTER, UM, WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES AS WELL. UH, SO CON SHOPS ARE, UH, TYPICALLY, UH, PERMITTED AS USES BY RIGHT IN THE LC THREE DISTRICT OF SIMILAR TO GAS STATION. UM, AND SO THE APPLICANT IS, UH, LOOKING TO AMEND THE USE OF PERMITTED, UH, TO ADD UPON SHOP USE, UH, WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES AS WELL AS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ALLOW FOR, UH, THE PALM SHOP, BUT, UH, TO LIMIT IT FOR A LOT TO THE AREA THAT WAS SHOWN IN RED, THE UNDEVELOPED AREA, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT HIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CD IS JUST PERTAINING TO THE USES. SO THIS WOULD MAKE NO CHANGES TO ANY OF THE OTHER, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, REGULATIONS WITHIN THE PB IS JUST A PROPOSED CHANGE TO ALLOW FOR, UM, UPON SHOP. SO THAT IS WHAT I HAVE. AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT IS I'M ON THE LINE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, JENNIFER. UM, MR. PETTICREW, IF YOU ARE THERE, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. YES MA'AM OKAY. HI. HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING GREAT. THANK YOU. AND HOW ARE YOU? UM, GREAT. OKAY. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU OWN A PAWN SHOP THAT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. WELL, THAT WOULDN'T BE CLOSING. YES. MA'AM WE WERE RELOCATED. TOTALLY RELOCATING. YEAH. ALRIGHTY. DIDN'T CONSIDER ANY OF THE OTHER EMPTY BUILDINGS. HUH? YOU WANT TO BUILD YOUR OWN? YEAH, I'D RATHER PAY ME RENT. FAIR ENOUGH. FAIR ENOUGH. FAIR ENOUGH. FAIR ENOUGH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT FROM THE, UH, COMMISSIONER? THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVERTAKE THE SAME SIZE AS YOUR CURRENT PAWN SHOP. SORRY, SQUARE FOOTAGE, ROUGHLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND PUT, UM, BETWEEN [01:45:01] A FOUR AND 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY. AND RIGHT NOW WE OCCUPY RIGHT AT 4,000 SQUARE FEET. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS OF MR. PETTICREW, EXACTLY WHERE YOU CURRENT LEAD LOCATED? THIS IS COMMISSIONER. HI. CAN I SHARE THE PHYSICAL ADDRESS IS 68, 40 HIGHWAY SIX. IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE, UM, XCEL URGENT CARE IS, WHICH IS JUST FROM THE, FROM OIL FIELD GOING NORTH THERE'S THE NEW STRIP CENTER WHERE THE FAMOUS BILLY DONUTS IS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF HE KNOWS THE STORY, BUT HIS DAUGHTER PUT IT ON TWITTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEY BOMBARDED HIM JUST PASS. THAT IS THE KELSEY-SEYBOLD ON THE NEXT LOT. THERE'S A BRAND NEW STRIP CENTER THAT'S NOT FINISHED YET, OR IT'S ALMOST FINISHED. IT'S NOT OCCUPIED YET. AND THEY WERE IN THE NEXT BUILDING NORTH OF THAT. SO PAST US IS, IS ALL JUST GREEN GRASS ALL THE WAY TILL YOU GET TO THE, TO THE GAS STATION OF BAYA AS YOU GO CLOSE TO GLEN LAKES. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE ON, UM, MS. EDWARDS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY. SEEING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT. MS. LUCAS, I'LL TAKE YOUR MOTION. HEINIE. IS THAT OKAY FOR YOU TO MAKE A SECOND? THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE FORWARD THIS ON THE CITY COUNCIL AS A FINAL REPORT? YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. HANEY. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BAILEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. I AS WELL, ARE THERE ANY NAYS? ABSTENTIONS? ALRIGHTY. THAT MOTION CARRIES. GOOD. LOOK, SIR. WITH YOUR PAWN SHOP, HAVE A GREAT EVENING. YOU TOO, SIR. WE'LL MOVE [7C. PUBLIC HEARING FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT] NOW TO WHAT WILL BE OUR FINAL ITEM ON TONIGHT. IT'S ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING FOR PD WE'LL RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR AGAINST THE REQUEST BY H PAUL DODD OF NUQUEST PROPERTIES TO ZONE AND APPROXIMATE 75.58 ACRE TRACT OF LAND TO PD DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO INCLUDE RETAIL, COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY USES. OKAY. LAST PROJECT MISSING. UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE SUBJECT AREA THAT WINE, UH, GENERALLY THE SUBJECT AREA IS OUTLINED IN RED. UH, THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE FORT BEN PARKWAY AND HIGHWAY SIX. AND, UM, THE BEND TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THIS PROPERTY IS WHERE A WATTS PLANTATION ROAD, UH, WOULD EVENTUALLY BE EXTENDED, UM, FROM ITS CURRENT TERMINUS IS ON BOTH THE EAST AND WEST SIDE. IT WAS, UH, CONNECTS THROUGH, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UH, SO NEW QUESTS NUQUEST PROPERTIES IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER FOR THE SITE AS THIS IS A SHOT OF THEIR OTHER TWO DEVELOPMENTS. UM, ALSO AT THAT INTERSECTION, UM, THE FORT BEN TOWN CENTER, UH, JUST TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FORTMAN PARKWAY, UH, WAS THE FIRST, UH, FORD TOWN CENTER. UM, IT CONSISTS OF A KROGER SHOPPING CENTER, UM, AND, UH, RETAIL, UH, STRIP CENTERS, AS WELL AS THE PAD SITES. THAT INCLUDES, UH, SEVERAL, UH, RESTAURANTS, UM, ACROSS HIGHWAY SIX FROM THAT CORBYN TOWN CENTER SITE, UM, IS A PROPOSED FORT BEND COUNTY CENTER TO, UM, THAT WILL ALSO CONTAIN, UH, UH, RETAIL SHOPPING, UM, AS WELL AS A COMMERCIAL PAD SITE, UM, WITH A CINEMARK THEATER AS THE POTENTIAL, UM, ANCHOR OR, UM, BIG, UM, BIG ATTRACTION, UH, FOR THAT SHOPPING CENTER AS THIS WOULD BE, UM, ON THE, UH, SOUTH EAST CORNER, UM, OF THE DEVELOPMENT [01:50:01] AND NEW QUEST HAS SUBMITTED A LAND PLAN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, FOR THE MIX OF USES, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING A COMMERCIAL RETAIL PROPERTY, UH, THAT ALSO INCLUDES, UH, THE POTENTIAL PROMOTE BY FAMILY, UH, USES AS WELL. UH, THEY PROVIDED A PRELIMINARY, UH, DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE THAT'S SHOWN, UM, BUT GENERALLY THEY'RE LOOKING TO SECURE FINANCING AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE BY, UH, ONCE ZONING IS SECURE, UH, TO START, UM, CONSTRUCTION ON, UH, THE SHOPPING CENTER. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND I THINK THE SUPERVISORS ARE OUT OF ORDER. SO MAYBE TWO SLIDES DOWN. YEP. ONE MORE FIVE, SORRY THAT, UM, THIS IS A SITE LAYOUT THAT, UH, NUQUEST HAS PROVIDED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR, UH, TO THE FORBIDDEN SOUTH CENTER IN FORT BEND COUNSELOR TO, UM, LOOKING AT, UH, COMMERCIAL PAD SITES ALONG THE HIGHWAY SIX FRONTAGE, AS WELL AS THE FOREMAN PARKWAY FARMING, UM, WITH, UH, ANCHOR STORE, UM, WITHIN, UM, INTERIOR THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN, UH, YOU SEE AN ACCESS ROAD THAT WOULD CONNECT FROM, UH, THE WAX PLANTATION ASCENSION, UM, AND EXTEND UP TO HIGHWAY SIX. UM, ALONG THE ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD WOULD BE, UH, THE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY, UH, JUST TO THE SOUTH, UM, SOUTHWEST, UM, OF THE SHOPPING CENTER ITSELF. OKAY. THAT'S THE ONLY GO BACK ONE AND THEN COME BACK. I APOLOGIZE. UM, SO IT'S A BIG CONCEPT, BIG PD. UM, SO WE'LL KIND OF BREAK DOWN, UH, SOME OF THE DETAILS OF IT. UM, AND THEN THE FAC RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THE DEVELOPER IS ON THE CALL. UM, THERE, WE REALIZE THAT, UH, THEY MAY WANT TO WALK THROUGH, UH, TO KIND OF, UM, ORIENT YOU TO SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY'VE DONE, UM, IN THE AREA OR AROUND THE COUNTRY. UM, GENERALLY THE BIG PICTURE HERE IS, UH, WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, DOES THE CITY WANT, UM, WHAT TYPES OF OTHER, UH, DEVELOPMENT DOES THE CITY WANT TO ENCOURAGE? SO THE OVERALL STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, THE USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT INTERSECTION, UM, IN LINE WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM, AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE, UH, THE PD AND ALLOW FOR THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S OVERALL. SO, UM, WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAYS OUT WITH YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, ARE KIND OF, UH, CHARACTER CONSIDERATIONS, UM, FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT. SO WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CHARACTER. UM, LET ME BACK UP THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, UM, WAS CONCEIVED WITH THE IDEA THAT LAST PLANTATION, UM, HAD NOT YET BEEN EXTENDED, UM, AND THAT THE NIGHT ROAD, UH, RIGHT AWAY ALSO DID NOT HAVE A FORMALIZED TIMELINE, UM, FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT HAS SINCE CHANGED AS YOU KNOW, UM, NITROS, UM, IS UNDER DESIGN. AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE JEREMY ACROSS, WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT, UM, FOR A WHITENING AND IMPROVEMENTS. AND PART OF THAT IS TO HELP, UH, RELIEVE TRAFFIC, UM, IN THE CN SIENNA AREA AND A DEVELOPMENT FURTHER SOUTH. SO YOU HAVE THAT IMPROVEMENT, UH, THAT'S IN THE WORKS. UM, YOU ALSO, UM, UH, ARE AWARE OF THE SHIPMENT CODE, A SUBDIVISION THAT'S JUST TO THE WEST AND NORTH OF, UM, CREEK MY AND NEW POINT OF SPACE, UM, WHICH IS TO THE EAST OF THIS SITE, UM, THAT WILL EXTEND LAST PLANTATION, UM, CLOSER. UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF MOVING PIECES, UM, IN THIS PART OF THE CITY THAT IS CHANGING, UM, THE WAY THAT DEVELOPMENT COULD OCCUR, UM, WITHIN THE AREA. UM, UTILITIES IS ALSO WAS ALSO A BIG ISSUE, UM, WITH THE TEACHER WHEN YOU PLAN, UM, IN THIS AREA, BECAUSE, UH, THIS AREA IS PART OF THE CITY SERVICE AREA AND IS NOT ANNEXED INTO, UM, A UTILITY DISTRICT OR THE CITY PROVIDING A UTILITY SERVICE TO IT. SO ALL OF THAT FACTORED INTO, UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, LOOKING AT THIS SITE, UM, FOR THE CONTINUATION OF LARGE ACREAGE OF STATES, UM, WHICH IS THE TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, LIKE, UH, A SPACE WITH SILVER RIDGE, UM, WATERBROOK, UM, SOME OF THOSE AREAS ALONG A LAST ONE STATION [01:55:01] TO THE EAST, UM, BUT IT WAS ALL BASED ON, UM, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS NOT BEING IN PLACE THAT HAS SINCE CHANGED. AND SO NOW WE DO HAVE, UH, THE NIGHT ROAD IMPROVEMENT. WE DO HAVE THE LAST PLANTATION, UM, EXTENSION, UM, AND UTILITIES ARE, UM, BEING WORKED OUT. UM, SO IT CHANGES THE SCENARIO AS TO WHAT THIS AREA COULD DEVELOP FOR. SO, UM, IN CONSIDERING, UH, WHAT THIS AREA COULD BE DEVELOPED FOR LOOKING PRIMARILY NORTH OF WESTBOURNE STATION, UM, FOR OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO, UM, PROVIDE FOR MORE EMPLOYMENT-BASED USES OR, YOU KNOW, NON-RESIDENTIAL USES OR THE, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR DENSITY, AH, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN HAS, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS, UH, CHARACTER DISTRICTS DISTRICTS THAT KIND OF ESTABLISH THAT. SO, UH, THERE'S TWO DISTRICTS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE REPORT. UM, THE ADULT ORIENTED, UH, COMMERCIAL CHARACTER, UM, IS SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, THIS LAYOUT, UH, WOULD BE AKIN TO A, THIS IS WHAT THE STANDARD LAYOUT THAT WE SEE OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, UH, PRIMARILY A LONGER LARGE, UM, CORRIDORS, UM, AND ALSO, UH, WITH, UH, THE OTHER TWO, UH, FORT MEN FOUND CENTERS, UM, AT THE OTHER, UH, INTERSECTIONS OF THIS, UH, UM, AREA, UM, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, UM, INCLUDE TRYING TO MOVE THAT TO MORE OF AN URBAN CHARACTER, UM, AND LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN REALLY ENHANCE, UM, THOSE NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, AND ALSO INTEGRATING IT INTO A TRULY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO, UM, THOSE COMMISSIONERS. I REMEMBER, UH, , UH, THE MITSUI PD THAT, UH, WE LOOKED AT AN AMENDMENT TO EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, LIKE THE OLYMPIA PARKWAY AND FOREFRONT PARKWAY, UM, THINKING ABOUT, UM, DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THAT AT OUR, UM, AT THE, UM, AT THOSE HIGHS, UH, TRAVEL INTERSECTIONS, UM, THINKING ABOUT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE MIGHT HAVE, UM, TO SEE, UH, GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THIS IS A BLOW UP, UM, THESE PICTURES ARE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO THIS IS A LITTLE BLURRY, CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A VERY SMALL PICTURE AND A CONFERENCE FOR PLAN. UM, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UH, DIFFICULT THAT PLAN UP, UM, AND JUST, UH, TO REACQUAINT YOURSELF WITH IT, UM, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AUTO ORIENTED. UM, I THINK, UH, THIS, THIS, THIS, THE SHOPPING CENTER, I THINK THIS IS THE KROGER SHOPPING CENTER, UM, ON HIGHWAY SIX, UM, AND NOT, NOT THE, UH, CORBIN PARKWAY KROGER, BUT THE, UM, THE KROGER AT UNIVERSITY AND HIGHWAY SPACE. SO IF YOU SEE THIS, THE LAYOUT IS A TYPICAL SUBURBAN, UM, KIND OF LAYOUT WHERE YOU HAVE SURFACE PARKING, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CLOSER TO THE STREET. YES. UH, PAT SIDE SELECT CHICK-FILET, UH, WALGREENS CHASE, YOU HAVE THOSE, UH, PAST FIVES OUT ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE, AND THEN YOU HAVE, UM, A STRIP SHOPPING CENTER, UH, TOWARDS THE BACK. UM, BUT THERE'S GREAT DISTANCE BETWEEN WHERE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE FED, UM, AND THE STREET. UM, SO THE PEDESTRIAN VIEW OR THE PEDESTRIAN INTERACTION, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU PRINT YOU PRETTY MUCH GO TO THESE CENTERS JUST TO SHOP, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE TO THESE CENTERS, YOU PARKED IN THE PARKING, UM, YOU GET OUT OF YOUR CAR AND YOU GO INTO THE STORE THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE URBAN CHARACTER, UM, IS, UH, IS CATEGORIZED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS MORE LIFESTYLE, UM, LIFESTYLE CENTERS. UM, SO LOOKING AT BRINGING THE BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE STREET, UH, LOOKING AT, UM, HIGHER DEFINITION BUILDINGS OF TALLER BUILDINGS, UM, TO ALLOW FOR THE INTEGRATED, UM, MIX OF USES WITHIN BUILDINGS AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, ON THE LAND ITSELF. UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S THE FEATURES OF THAT, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE REDUCING THE SET OR, UM, UH, REQUIRING REDUCE THAT BACK. SO INSTEAD OF A BUILDING BEING FED BACK, YOU KNOW, 60 FEET, 70 FEET FROM THE STREET FRONTAGE, IT'S PULLED UP CLOSER TO THE SIDEWALKS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE AND INTERACT WITH THOSE BUILDINGS. UM, SURFACE PARKING IS LIMITED. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE EXPANSE OF CONCRETE, UM, AND, UM, IT'S DESIGNED TO ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, MORE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, INTERACTION AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, REALLY MINGLE AND KIND OF, UM, ENJOY THE ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS, UH, UTILIZE, UH, THE BUSINESSES AND SERVICES, [02:00:01] UM, ON THAT SIDE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, IN THE REPORT, UM, AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, UH, TO APPROVE, UH, THE PD ITSELF, UH, THE MIX OF USES IS CONSISTENT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAINS. UM, BUT TO REALLY LOOK AT DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS THAT CAN BRING US CLOSER TO, UH, SOME OF THE GOALS AND POLICIES ESTABLISHED, UM, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHILE ALSO, UH, WORKING, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPER ON, UM, RESPONSE, YOU KNOW, REAL TIME RESPONSES TO, UH, THE CURRENT AND FUTURE MARKET, UM, ACTIVITY WITHIN THIS AREA. SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE, UM, APPLYING THE LC THREE RETAIL DISTRICT STANDARDS, UM, AS WELL AS THE MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS, UM, FOR THE MSQ DISTRICT. UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, TO LOOK AT WAYS TO INTEGRATE THOSE USES, UM, IN, IN, YOU KNOW, UH, BUILDINGS AS OPPOSED TO SEPARATED OUT ON THE SITE AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS WITH THE DEVELOPER AS TO WHAT THE PRACTICALITY OF THAT IS, AND, UM, WAYS THAT WE CAN MAYBE, UM, INTEGRATE USES IN A DIFFERENT FASHION. UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ALSO INCLUDE, UH, PROVIDING MINIMUM BUILDING HEIGHTS INSTEAD OF MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT. AND AGAIN, THAT'S GETTING OUT, UM, GETTING AWAY FROM THAT STANDARD, UH, SUBURBAN LAYOUT OF THE ONE STORY STRIP SHOPPING CENTER, UM, BUT TRULY CREATING SOMETHING THAT, UM, HAS A MORE INTEGRATED PURPOSE. UM, THE SETBACKS AS I DISCUSSED BEFORE, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE REPORT IS TO DO A MAXIMUM SETBACK, UH, FOR THE FRONT, UM, AS OPPOSED TO A MINIMUM. UM, SO IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 30 FEET, UM, AND ALSO, UM, UH, A 10 FOOT REAR SETBACK, FIVE FOOT FIVE BED THAT, UH, TO BRING THOSE BUILDINGS CLOSER TO FIVE WALLS, UM, AND, UH, TO THE PUBLIC, UM, MULTIFAMILY ON THE DENSITY WOULD BE, UH, THE , UH, MULTIFAMILY TO A DISTRICT REGULATIONS, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 24 UNITS PER GROSS, BUT AT ACRE WITH A MAXIMUM OF 20 UNITS PER BUILDING. AND I WILL SAY, UM, WE DID MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED, UM, SOME, UM, ALTERATIONS TO THE, SO I'M GOING THROUGH THIS, AND THEN WE CAN, UH, WORK THROUGH, UH, SOME OF WHAT THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDED AS WELL. UM, THE BUILDING REGULATIONS FOR LC THREE, UH, RETAIL DISTRICTS, UM, ARE WHAT'S RECOMMENDED TO BE APPLIED, UH, FOR THE SCIENCE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE STANDARD, UH, REGULATIONS, UH, FOR, UM, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARD DERIVED. AND AS IN, UM, I'LL, UH, THROUGH OUTSIDE PLACEMENT OF FORAGE AND THEMSELVES, UM, ON THE LANDSCAPE AND REGULATIONS, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT SECTION 11, UM, BE APPLIED TO OUR, OUR, UH, LANDSCAPING, UH, STANDARDS. HOWEVER, IF WE CAN WORK WITH, UM, THE DEVELOPER ON, UM, OPERATIONS TO, UH, THE LAYOUT, WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, REDUCTIONS IN SOME OF THOSE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS. SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, IN THE REPORT TALKS ABOUT, UM, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THE LAYOUT WHERE YOU HAVE SURFACE PARKING, UM, YOU KNOW, VISIBLE THROUGH THE STREET, UH, THERE'S A LANDSCAPE OF REQUIREMENT THAT ESSENTIALLY USE CREME THAT PARKING LOT, UM, FROM PUBLIC VIEW. SO SCREENING IT, USING A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF LANDSCAPING, BUT IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF LAYOUT WHERE YOU HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE STREETS OR BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN CLOSING, UM, UM, UH, PARKING AREA, UM, THERE'S SOME OF THOSE LANDSCAPING, UH, REGULATIONS COULD BE, UM, UH, REDUCE, UM, OR YOU CAN FOCUS, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING, UM, IN THE AREA THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A GREATER, UM, BENEFIT. SO IN THIS CASE, LIKE WITH THE, WHERE THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY IS PROPOSED, UM, THERE'S ALSO A PORTION THAT IS INCLUDED IN A WETLANDS, UM, IN A WETLAND AREAS. SO THOSE AREAS COULD BE ENHANCED, UM, UM, THROUGH A REDUCTION OF LANDSCAPING, BUT TONIGHT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE DETAILS. UH, SO IF IT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE STAFF WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER US TO SEE WHAT CAN BE A TEAM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE MEETING, UH, SOME OF WHAT THE CITY IS LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, PARKING REGULATIONS AND FINN REGULATIONS AGAIN, UM, JUST APPLYING THE STANDARD, UM, THE SIGN REGULATIONS ON HERE, UH, WOULD [02:05:01] BE, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT THE DEVELOPER DO A MASTER TIME PLAN, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, ONE, THIS, ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS IS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, THAT THE TRADITIONAL, UM, FORTISSIMO LAYOUT, HOW ARE YOU THINK ABOUT THAT TRADITIONAL LAYOUT? UM, UH, THE SIGN NEEDS ARE BASED ON, UH, BUSINESSES WANTING VISIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC. SO WHEN YOU PUSH BUILDING, YOU KNOW, FURTHER BACK ON A SITE, THE VISIBILITY, UM, TO THE PUBLIC IS REDUCED. SO THAT IN TURN GOES INTO REQUESTS FOR BIGGER SIGNS OR FOR MORE FINDINGS, UM, IN CERTAIN AREAS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO KIND OF WORK VERSUS A DEVELOPER HAS, UM, PROVIDED, UM, SOME AMENDED, UM, REQUESTS, UH, FOR FIND REGULATIONS, UH, TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF, UM, SOME OF THE SIGNS AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS REQUESTED AT THE ORIGINAL FORT MILL TOWN CENTER AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE, UH, WORKING WITH THEM ON FOR THE FORT BEND TOWN CENTER TO. UM, BUT WHAT WE HOPE TO DO WITH THIS IS KIND OF, UM, LOOK AT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE TIME REGULATION, THE VISIBILITY, UM, OF FINE, UM, AND LOOKING AT WAYS THAT THE LAYOUT CAN BE ALTERED, UM, SO THAT ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, FINANCE, IT'S NOT NECESSARY. SO I APOLOGIZE, I'VE GOT A LITTLE, UM, LITTLE DISTRACTED IN THAT, IN THAT ANALYSIS. SO ANYWAY, SO, UM, ALL OF THIS IS STILL JUST RELATED TO THE LARGER TOPIC OF, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THIS BE A AUTO ORIENTED CARE FOR KIND OF DEVELOPMENT? SHOULD THIS BE A MORE URBAN DEVELOPMENT? IS THERE ANYTHING, UM, IN BETWEEN, UM, THAT, UH, CAN HELP THE CITY, UM, ATTRACT THE NONRESIDENTIAL DENSITY MIX, UM, THAT WILL, UH, CONTINUE TO HELP US BALANCE OUR CURRENT LAND USE SITUATIONS, OR, UM, IS THIS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, JUST TO ENCOURAGE, UH, MORE, UH, RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL, UM, GROWTH, UM, IN THIS AREA? UM, I THINK THE NEXT SLIDES ARE IMAGES THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED. YES. UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH, UM, THESE SLIDES. UM, THESE ARE KIND OF AS A RESULT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD EARLIER TODAY, UM, LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE COULD KIND OF INTEGRATE WHAT SOME OF THE CITY'S GOALS AND POLICIES ARE, UM, WITH DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE, UM, IN THIS AREA OR, YOU KNOW, IN THIS REGION. UM, SO THESE ARE IMAGES THAT KIND OF SHOW, UM, SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT ASPECTS. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW IF PAUL'S, UM, ANDREW, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL WANT TO WALK US THROUGH THESE SLIDES, JENNIFER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WORKSHOP TODAY. YOU'VE DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB SETTING THIS UP, UH, MADAM COMMISSIONER MINISTERS. UH, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A STEAK TONIGHT. UH, AS YOU KNOW, UM, UH, LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY ON THIS INTERSECTION. WE, WE HAD, UH, THE IDEA ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO TO MAKE THIS A REGIONAL HUB, NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST SERVES THE CITIZENS OF MISSOURI CITY, BECAUSE WITH THIS SIDE PROJECTS AND WHERE THE BRAZOS COUNT CENTER, UH, THEY, THEY NEVER GRADUATE IF YOU HAVE, WOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A WAY TO KEEP TAX DOLLARS IN THE CITY, BUT NOT ONLY DO THAT, BUT BRING OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 150,000 TRADE AREA IN DEBRIS TAX DOLLARS, YOU SPEND THEIR MONEY INSIDE OF THE VERY CITY. SO THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT LEAST NUQUEST MASTER PLAN FOR THE INTERSECTION. THEY, NORTHWEST CORNER WAS ALWAYS HELD HOSTAGE BY MR. AINBINDER, WHO FINALLY TOOK 50% OF WHAT HE WAS ASKING FOR THE PROPERTY. SO WE HAVE CLOSED THAT THE CINEMARK POLICE AND SIGNED IT'S THEIR NEWEST PROTOTYPE. IT'S A DISNEY TYPE LEASE OR THEME MR. TANG FROM DISNEY, UH, AND TODAY RETAIL CENTERS REALLY AREN'T, UH, RETAIL CENTERS ANYMORE. THEY'RE REALLY NEIGHBORHOOD OR REGIONAL ESSENTIAL CENTERS, FOR INSTANCE, IN ALI ANA, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN THE CONSTRUCTION. AND, UH, WE'LL SHOW THIS SIDE. THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PSYCHO RAIN WHERE MILLER SPORT, KROGER COEXIST. AND, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MARINE SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT YOU WANT. AND, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS ONE PROJECT WE JUST DANNY AND LAZINESS THOUGH. SO IN IT, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STILL NOT WHAT THE TENANT BASE WANTS. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. UM, NORTHWEST [02:10:01] CORNER IS PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED, APPROVED, AND APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THEN A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. WE ALREADY OWN 10 ACRES AT THAT CORNER. WE'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 12 YEARS AS THE CITY HAS TO GET MR. MARTIN TO COOPERATE IN EXPANDING KNIGHT ROAD. AND, UH, THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT EXISTS THAT ALREADY SHOWS THE SAME TYPE OF CENTER AS THE KROGER CENTER AND THE NORTHWEST CORNER IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH STILL HAS NOT EXPIRED. UH, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE BOUNDARY DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO WALKS PLANTATION ROAD, UH, WILL BE AMENDED WITH THE CITY, THAT DOCUMENT TO TYPE THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE, UH, US MILLING, UH, TWO LANES OF WATTS PLANTATION ROAD. THEN MR. WARNER DIED. THAT'S WHAT INITIATED US TO BE ABLE TO FINALLY LOOK TO MIKE THIS INTERSECTION TO HAVE CRITICAL MAGNETS AND WHAT I MEAN BY CRITICAL MASS. SO MANY STUDIES GET THEIR RETAIL AND, AND LIFE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTRAL CENTERS SPREAD OUT. AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE MANY CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THAT WHEN ROSENBERG DID THAT, AND KMART WAS AT 36, UM, OF COURSE KMART GOES OUT. AND THAT, THAT, THAT PROJECTS IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU GET THE CRITICAL MASS, WHICH WE AREN'T THERE YET. AND BY DOING ALL THREE OF THESE PARTNERS, WE GET A REGIONAL HUB THAT ACHIEVED CRITICAL MASS RETAILERS WILL COME AND GO USAGE WILL CHANGE, BUT WHEN A SPACE BECOMES AVAILABLE, THERE'S SOMEBODY READY TO TAKE IT. AND THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF ACHIEVING CRITICAL MASS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE. SO THE NORTHWEST, UH, QUARTER'S ABOUT FULLY LEASED AND THE ANCHOR, OF COURSE THE KEY ANCHOR IS A BIG SET OF OUR PROJECT, THEIR LATEST AND GREATEST WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THAT EXACT BUILDING, UH, RIGHT HERE IN WACO, TEXAS WITH HOT DOG. AND SO CENTERS TODAY HAVE A COMPONENT OF FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT AND SAY, ARE THE MAIN EVENT HOT OFF SET A MARK IN THIS ONE, BUT TO GET THESE RETAILERS TO SPEND THEIR BULLETS AT THESE REGIONAL CENTERS, THEY WANT TO SEE MULTIFAMILY. THEY WANT TO SEE A TRAIL SYSTEM TO THE MULTIFAMILY. IF YOU CAN SEE BEHIND HERE WHERE A TUBE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS GOING ON, THAT'S WHAT GETS THEM TO FIND LIKE, COME, THERE'S TWO HOTELS IN THERE. AND, UM, ONE THING ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON YOU ALL MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE SIX STORY PARKING GARAGE AT INTERSTATE 10 AND GRAND PARKWAY IN THAT NORTHEAST CORNER. WE OWN THAT. AND THAT WAS A LONGTERM LEASE WITH METRO, UH, METRO SCOTT OF, AT A STANDSTILL RIGHT NOW, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN USING THE KROGER PARKING LOT DURING THE DAY FOR QUITE SOME TIME TO BUILD THE RIDERSHIP RIDERSHIP AT A COMPLETE STANDSTILL, AS WE ALL MIGHT KNOW IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, THIS THEY WILL CHAIN. UH, SO, UH, SPEAKING WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF METRO, YOU'RE KIND OF ON HOLD. IT'S NOT A MONETARY ISSUE THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED. WE'VE GOT TO GET THROUGH THE VACCINE AND GET THROUGH COVID AND KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT COMPONENT INTO THE PROJECT. AND WE DID THAT ON THAT NORTHEAST CORNER OF INTERSTATE 10 AND, AND, UH, GRAND PARKWAY, WHICH NOW THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE'VE COMPLETED, UM, A LOT OF WHAT IS BEING CALLED AT THE TIME, A ASIAN TOWN CENTER AND, UH, ALL OF THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE NEAT THING, IF WE DIG IT METRO, EVENTUALLY THEY USE IT DURING THE DAY AND THE PATRONS OF THE PROJECT AND USE IT AT NIGHT. IT'S A REALLY GOOD USE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRIMED TO GET IT. UH, YOUR, YOUR CURRENT CITY STAFF WOULD LIKE THAT TO OCCUR. METRO WOULD LIKE IT TO THE THIRD POWER THAT'S ON HOLD UNTIL THEY SEE THE RESULT OF COVID, WHAT WILL THE RIDE, OR SHE HAD THE POSTCODE. AND SO WE'VE GOT USERS NOW THAT, THAT FOR CERTAIN REASONS, CAN'T GO INTO THE NORTHWEST BORDER RESTRICTED RAISINS BECAUSE OTHER TENANTS MIGHT HAVE THAT EXCLUSIVE YEARS, UH, THAT, THAT WE CAN PUT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER TODAY. UH, WE'VE GOT A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER READY TO GO. WE GOT TO BRING RUSS POPS TO THIS INTERSECTION. AND THEN WE CAN PUT IN, YOU SAY IN THE FRONT OF SET OF MARK, NOW IT'S GOT A, A PUBLIC AREA SIMILAR TO THE FIRST SLIDE YOU SAW YOU HAVE FOR GOOD. WE'D GO ON TO THE NEXT, NEXT LINE. AND CAN YOU GO TO THE, THE LARGER SLIDE OF ALL YON? I THINK IT'S THE NEXT ONE. WELL, UM, SO THE FIRST, UH, WELL, WHAT, WE'LL THIS TALK ABOUT THESE AS WE GO, UM, THIS IS THE ONE IN PSYCHO RANCH, WHICH HAS A PUBLIC COMPONENT IT'S ASTROTURF. IT GETS USED FOR A SATURDAY [02:15:01] FARMER'S MARKET. IT GETS USED FOR OTHER PUBLIC EVENTS. UH, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE AGAIN, UH, WE'VE KIND OF EXPLAINED HOW THIS INTERACTS WITH THE MULTIFAMILY ALIANTE RON DOES THE SAME THING. IT'S KIND OF GOT THAT, THAT OPEN SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT IT ALSO INCORPORATES, REMEMBER SOME OF THESE RETAILERS MAY ONLY HAVE FIVE UNITS THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN A YEAR. SO IF I DON'T PRODUCE AND GIVE THEM RELATIVELY WHAT THEY WANT, THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND ONE OF THEIR FIVE BULLETS IN MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST. AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW NUQUEST REPRESENTS EXCLUSIVELY 80 RETAILERS AND SO A LOT FOLLOW US. AND SO WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OVER TIME TO MAKE THIS A REGIONAL PUB. WE'VE STAYED WITH YOU AS PARTNERS ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER, THROUGH THICK AND THIN. WHY MR. WARNER, NOR MR. AINBINDER WOULD SELL THEIR SITES. SO WE COULD GET THIS INTO A MUCH BIGGER TOWN CENTER. UH, BUT WE'VE GOT THAT AT THE DOORSTEP TODAY. UH, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, NOT BE TRYING TO SHOW YOU SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS. THIS IS GREAT SIDE OF TOWN CENTER IN BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, THERE'S 870,000 VISITORS A MONTH TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S MORE THAN THE GALLERY IN HOUSTON, TEXAS. IT IS AN OPEN PARTY. IT'S GOT SOME COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE DID AND, UM, UH, CINCO RANCH AND SOME COMPONENTS OF WHAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN ALIANA, BUT, UH, IT IS A MUCH BIGGER PROJECT. IT'S IT'S 450 ACRES. IT'S GOT A, A HUGE REGIONAL HOSPITAL. IT'S GOT, UH, UH, FOUR MULTIFAMILY SITES TO SENIOR LIVING SITES. AND ALL OF THAT'S INTEGRATED WITH THE TRAIL SYSTEM INTO THE PROJECT. HOW ABOUT THE NEXT ONE, JENNIFER? THIS IS IN PFLUGERVILLE, TEXAS, UH, AN EXTRA, THE NEW 3 MILLION SQUARE FOOT AMAZON CENTER. AND AGAIN, UH, TOWARDS THE REAR, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY SITES ALL GOT BUILT. UH, BUT WE INTEGRATE IT THEN WITH A TRAIL SYSTEM. AND IT'S BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL IN PFLUGERVILLE. NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THE TOWN HALL, IF YOU WILL, TO THAT LAND, UH, WHERE IT SAYS ALTA. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM NOW TO DO THAT. UH, BUT AGAIN, MOST OF THE CENTERS TODAY, UH, HAVE 20 TO 30%, UH, MEDICAL. UH, THEY HAVE YOUR TITLE COMPANY, THEY HAVE YOUR INSURANCE COMPANIES. THEY HAVE SOME OFFICE COMPONENTS WHERE RETAIL CENTERS IN THE PAST, THE RETAILERS THEMSELVES WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY OF THOSE USES MAN, THE DAY THEY WELCOME THOSE USERS. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE REALLY FOLLOW THESE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTRAL CENTERS. BUT AGAIN, THE SIZE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD AT IT AT THIS INTERSECTION, WHICH WE CONSIDER ONE OF THE ENTRANCES TO YOUR CITY IS IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN'T SUPPORT IN AND OF ITSELF. WE WANT THEM TO KEEP THE TAX DOLLARS THERE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO DRAW IN ANOTHER HUNDRED AND 50 200,000 PEOPLE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY IN MISSOURI CITY. AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED IN ROSENBERG. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED IN NEW BRAUNFELS. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE. LOSERVILLE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. YES. MA'AM WHAT, I'M SORRY, I MISSED YOUR NAME. ALVAREZ. A L V I S MANAGER. MR. ALVAREZ. THANK YOU. AND THANK NEW QUESTS FOR HANGING IN HERE WITH US IN MISSOURI CITY. I DO TOO. APPRECIATE THAT. I'VE WROTE ALONG WITH YOU GUYS AS WELL, 12 YEARS AGO, WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED THIS, I HEAR EVERYTHING. AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE PHOTOS AND THE PICTURES THAT YOU'VE, THAT YOU'VE SHOWN US. I THINK WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE ASKING US FOR? CAN YOU SHOW US WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US? I HEAR A LOT OF I'M TRYING. I HEAR WE NEED, BUT I HAVE TO. I'M A VERY VISUAL PERSON. SO I HAVE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE GIVING US. AND ALL I SEE ON NORTHWEST CORNER IN ENDURE, HUD APPLICATION IS A SITE PLAN FOR THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. NOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAD PROPOSED SITE PLAN ONE IN ROSENBERG, THE BRAZOS DOWN CENTER, WE'RE ON SITE PLAN 300, BUT IT'S RELATIVELY THE SAME. THE RETAILER WANTS THEIR INPUT. SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY. JENNIFER HAS A RED LINE TO THE PUD THAT WOULD WORK. WE DECIDED THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS WAS A PUD. WHEN WE PUT MULTIFAMILY IN OUR PROJECTS MATTER, KAREN, WE PUT MORE RESTRICTIVE GOVERNANCE ON THEM, THEN YOU WOULD PUT ON BECAUSE WE CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS. AS FAR AS QUALITY LONG TERM. REMEMBER, I'M GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED MILLION INVESTED IN THIS INTERSECTION. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE UNITS ARE TOP NOTCH FOREVER. SO WE [02:20:01] CAN YOU MAKE IT LOOK SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, JENNIFER WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AND URBAN CHARACTER NATURE, WHERE IT'S CLOSE AND NOT SET SO FAR BACK. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BUILD AN URBAN CENTER HERE, MAN, HERE WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE'LL BE WAY YEARS FOR THAT. I'M NOT SURE IT'S EVEN WORTH YET IN THE RIVER DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE TENANTS ARE ON FOR SETTING RENT AND THEY'RE IN TROUBLE. UH, SO, UH, IT'S NOT WHAT WE BILL. IT'S NOT WHAT WE'VE PLANNED TO BUILD WHEN WE CAME AND INVESTED 50 MILLION IN THE INTERSECTION ALREADY. UM, AND SO, UH, IF I COULD BRING YOU NAME AND MARCUS AND RIVER OAKS DISTRICT, I WOULD BRING IT TO YOU. HOWEVER, I CANNOT, AND THAT'S NOT US, BUT THE RED LINE BEFORE JENNIFER IS SOMETHING WE CAN DELIVER. UH, WE HAVE DELIVERED RENDERINGS OF NORTHWEST CORNER IN RENDERING OF WHAT WE PROPOSE TO THE SOUTHEAST. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON WITH YOUR CONDITION. AND SO I'M NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN NEIMAN MARCUS COMING OUT THAT FAR, HONESTLY, I'M NOT. UM, SO TO REALLY BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M, I'M JUST NOT, BUT I AM MORE SO INTERESTED IN, UH, SOME OF THE MILLENNIALS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO EAT AND LIVE WHERE THEY, THEY LIKE EATING, WORKING AND PLAYING IN ONE SPOT. AND IF WE BRING SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MISSOURI CITY, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THOSE MILLENNIALS OVER HERE. GREAT, BIG GIANT ON CREEDS, GO AHEAD. THE COMPONENT OF BRINGING THE REALLY FUN RESTAURANTS, THEY'RE REALLY FUN ENTERTAINMENT. THEY ACTIVITIES IS WHAT OUR GENERATION WANTS AND WE LOVE IT. AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PULL THESE GROUPS INTO ALL OF THESE CENTERS AND WE'RE TRYING, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SEEING THE SLIDES BEFORE WE KEEP PULLING AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WHERE THESE TENANTS WILL GO. UM, THEN WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO IN MISSOURI CITY TO BRING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, MADAM CHAIRMAN, I DON'T THINK THIS REGIONAL HUB IS GOING TO BE THAT LOCATION. WHAT YOU PASS IN THE CENTER OF SIENNA IS, IS THAT TRENDY KIND OF PROJECT THAT I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE REGIONAL PROJECTS NOW IS INTRODUCING A PORTION OF THE TRENDING IS THAT YOU ARE, ARE SPEAKING TO, BUT THEY HAVEN'T YET BEEN FULLY EMBRACED. WE'VE BEEN TO PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, HALF THE PROJECTS AROUND THE COUNTRY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING THAT IN. AND WE'RE STARTING TO BRING SOME OF THAT IN, BUT REMEMBER, THIS IS A BIG REGIONAL PROJECT. UH, IT'S GOT A LOT OF COMPONENTS TO IT. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT BUILDING AT THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER. SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT SEE TRENDING SAY IN THE HEIGHTS. IT'S NOT WHAT THIS PROJECT IS AND THAT'S DICTATED BY WHAT MARKET OR NEARLY THE MARK. UM, BUT WE CAN, I THINK BE SUCCESSFUL AT, AT THE REGIONAL CONCEPT HERE AS WE HAVE IN OTHER PLACES, WHICH HAS A LARGER ENTERTAINMENT COMPONENT WITH THE MAIN EVENT. AND THERE'S A NORTHEAST CORNER OF CANDY GRAND PARKWAY THAT THE ANDRETTI, UH, INDOOR RACING, UH, ALL OF THAT IS BECOMING COMPONENTS OF THESE, OF CENTRAL CENTERS. SO, UH, BUT WHAT WE ARE IS LOS SENTARA, WHICH IS IN THE CENTER OF CINCO RANCH THAT THAT'S, THAT WILL WORK INSIDE YOUR MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD FASHION, BUT AT A BIG REGIONAL HUB THAT JUST HASN'T YET WORKED AROUND THE COUNTRY. IT FINALLY WORKED AFTER 40 YEARS AT 10 AND BELTWAY EIGHT PER CITY CENTER AFTER THEY TORE DOWN DOWN AND GOT VERY MALL. BUT THAT WAS AFTER 40 YEARS OF FAILURE OF THE MALL, BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE CITY CENTER. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD ANYBODY THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WE'RE TRYING TO DO VERY SIMILAR, A TRAIL AND STANCE OF, UH, INTEGRATED LIVE IN THE CENTER. YOU HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMPONENTS OF THE CENTER. UH, THIS PARTICULAR CRACK HAS JURISDICTIONAL WETLAND ISSUES. UH, THE HIGH QUALITY ONES WE'RE LEAVING, YOU KNOW, FASHION ON THE PROJECT. THE NON HIGH QUALITY ONES ARE BEING MITIGATED OFFSITE. AGAIN, UH, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, SOUTH OF WASH PLANTATION ROAD IS UNDER CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER OR SINGLE FAMILY. AND HE'S VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS. HE WOULD BE BUILDING THE OTHER THING LINES OF WATCH PLANTATION, ARE THINGS EVER SUCCESSFUL DEALING WITH THE, UH, INTERSECTIONAL WETLAND [02:25:01] RESPECT THAT I SHOWED YOU ALL OF IT AND THE RENDERINGS OF NORTHWEST CORNER, THE REFRESH THAT THE MISSIONARIES ON, I JUST, THIS IS COMMISSIONER LUCAS. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY HERE. DQ INDICATE THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY RESTAURANTS AND I LIKE HIGH END RESTAURANTS IN THIS AREA. ABSOLUTELY NOT. NO, I'VE NOT INDICATED THAT AT ALL, WE'RE MADE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT OLIVE GARDEN SCHEDULED FOR THE NORTHWEST CORNER. UH, I THINK WHAT, WHAT, UH, IF I MISUNDERSTOOD THE CHAIRMAN, HE WAS SAYING, WOULD WE HAVE ANY BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THE FRONT WITH PARKING IN THE REAR TO GET A MORE URBAN STYLE AS THAT ONE VICTOR, UH, INDICATE? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO, WE CAN'T GET THAT CROWN HERE. WE'D BE WAITING FOREVER. AND SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER ALREADY HAS DEGRADED TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ADD SOME NEW COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE DOING AROUND THE COUNTRY TO THIS PROJECT, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE THE RETAILERS ACTIVE BRACING AND THE OFFICE USERS HAVE TO EMBRACE IT AND THE MEDICAL USERS HAVE TO EMBRACE IT. SO, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE WORLD WE'RE IN TODAY, AS YOU KNOW, WHICH HAS BEEN SHAKING COMPLETELY UPSIDE DOWN, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO, TO PRODUCE WHAT THE MARKET WILL BREEZE, OR WE JUST ADD A STAGNATED PROJECT THAT SITS THERE AND NEVER GETS TO COMPLETION. IS THIS COMMISSIONER OVERTON? I HAD A QUESTION YOU HAD MENTIONED THERE'S THE MULTILEVEL, WELL COMPANY HAD ALREADY COMMITTED TO THE MULTIFAMILY. YES, MA'AM, IT'S ALL J OUT OF FLORIDA THAT BUILT WITHIN, UH, BRAZOS TOWN CENTER. SO, UH, WE'VE GOT RENDERINGS OF, OF THEIR PROPOSED USE AND THEIR CLUBHOUSES AND THE AMENITIES AND SUCH, UH, BUT WE, WE, WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH 'EM. UH, THEY FOLLOWED ALL OF OUR RESTRICTIVE GUIDELINES WITHIN BROWSES. UH, WE, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PFLUGERVILLE AND IN NEW BRONCOS. AND THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO ASK, DO YOU GUYS DO ANY KIND OF DEMOGRAPHIC STUDIES OF THE AREA BEFORE YOU GO INTO TO TRYING TO GET RETAILERS IN THERE? I'M SURE YOU DO CORRECT. WE, WE, WE DO. AND EVERY SINGLE USER DOES. AND SO IN YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT WITH YOU, WHAT DID YOU FIND IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA? AS FAR AS SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH, TWO 88 AND SOLVED A LOT OF PROBLEMS TO GET THE UPWARD MOBILE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS FROM THE MEDICAL CENTER TO THIS AREA. AND SO, AND EXACTLY THE SINGLE FAMILY NORTH OF ALL THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THE PROFILE OF THOSE BUYING THOSE HOMES, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE EXPECT TO BE IN THIS MULTIFAMILY, BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE ALMOST NO THREE BEDROOMS, ALL ONE BEDROOMS, TWO BEDROOMS, A FEW, THREE BEDROOMS, 25% GARAGE IS 25%, UH, COVERED PARKING, UH, LOTS OF LANDSCAPING. THEY ALL DEMAND A HUGE AMENITY PACKAGE TODAY. LIKE AMANDA'S TRAIL SYSTEM INTEGRATED INTO THE RETAIL. UH, WE'RE HOPEFUL TO BE ABLE TO USE THE, UH, THE HIGH QUALITY WETLAND AREA THAT WE'RE SAVING AT THE REQUEST OF THE COURT, UH, FOR JOGGING TRAILS AND SO FORTH THAT INTEGRATE INTO THE RESIDENTIAL. SO SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE MARKING MORE GENERATION WISE WHEN NOW YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL REALLY OLD COMMISSIONING BECAUSE MISSOURI CITY IS PRETTY MUCH MORE GENERATION X. AND SO I WAS WONDERING WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS MORE LIKE A Y'S AND Z'S IS THAT CORRECT? MULTILEVEL, YOUR APARTMENTS. YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF YOUNG PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE MOVING DOWN INTO THIS REGION DUE TO THE CORPORATE AND PARKWAY. THERE'S A LOT OF MEDICAL CENTER EMPLOYEES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THAT SOUTHWEST REGION AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MOVING THOSE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS OUT INTO THIS AREA. UM, THIS INTERSECTION TAKES, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 13 MINUTES TO GET TO THE MEDICAL CENTER. YOU'RE SEEING KATIE AND THAT GROWTH GO ALL THE WAY WEST THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 40, 50 MINUTES, YOU KNOW, BUT BY THE TIME YOU GO IN AND OUT OF THE CITY, SO IT'S, IT IS A KEY INTERSECTION AND PEOPLE START, ARE STARTING TO REALIZE AS THIS GROWTH COMES THIS WAY, UM, HOW MUCH CLOSER IT IS AND, YOU KNOW, THE WORTH OF IT. SO, SO WE HAVE, [02:30:01] YOU KNOW, THESE ESSENTIAL CENTERS, WE LIKE TO GEL ALL OUR BIKERS ARE NOT GOING TO RETAIL CENTERS BECAUSE AMAZON'S ILL AND HALF OF THAT. AND THEY REALLY ARE ESSENTIAL CENTERS NOW. AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE PROCUREMENT, UH, UH, SITES WITHIN THEM THAT ARE WEB BASED. UH, IF YOU KNOW, THE GROCERIES NOW HAVE DRIVE UP AND, UH, DIFFERENT DELIVERY METHODS, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT IN THERE. WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE A, UH, UH, REALLY GOOD, UH, HEALTH ORIENTED GROCERY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, UH, THAT WE LIKE WE'LL COME. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THIS SPOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE YOU MIGHT SEE IN THE REGENTRIFICATION AREA OF THE HEIGHTS, WHICH IS THAT ONE RENDERING. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT IS NOT WHAT NEW QUESTION IS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE? NO, MA'AM THANK YOU SO MUCH EMOTION. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU, MR. HANEY, WAS THERE A SECOND, SECOND. THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AYE. MOTION CARRIES TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, I ONLY COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THIS IS, UM, REALLY JUST CAN'T SEE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO TOTALLY DEVELOP. I DO. I DO AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT AND, UM, MERGING TOGETHER THE IDEA OF RETAIL AND, UH, MULTIFAMILY. I DO. I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT. AND THAT ALSO FALLS IN LINE WITH OUR RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A FUTURE LAND USE AND CHARACTER MAPS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT WE WANT TO FOLLOW. YOU KNOW, THAT SAY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY. AND, UH, I JUST KINDA CAN'T SEEM TO GET THERE. AND I'M CURIOUS AS TO, UM, YOU SAID A COUPLE OF THINGS EARLIER, YOU, YOU STATED THAT, UM, ONE PARTICULAR PLACE WAS, WAS WAITING TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE CURRENT CONDITION OF CLIMATE. AS FAR AS, UH, COVERT IS CONCERNED, THAT WAS THE METRO AND THAT THEY WERE KIND OF CONCERNED WITH THAT I'M CONCERNED. I MEAN, YOU SHOWED ME A GREAT BIG CINEMARK AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO THE MOVIES AS OF YET WITHOUT SKIPPING ONE SEAT, THERE ARE TWO SEATS, SO I'M SORRY. OH, I'M SORRY. I SAID AMC JUST STARTED BANKRUPTCY TODAY. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. SO NOT GOING TO BE IN THIS AREA. IT'S ACROSS THE STREET. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'RE SEEING A BUNCH OF IDIOTS. YEAH. SO I KIND OF, WHEN I READ THE STAFF REPORT KIND OF SCRATCH MY HEAD BECAUSE THE STAFF REPORT JUST SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, APPROVED THE REPORT. IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T SAY WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, IT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. SO TO JENNIFER TO KIND OF GIVE US A LITTLE GUIDANCE ON WHAT SHE THINKS THE OUTCOME OF THIS DISCUSSION HAS TO BE, OR SHOULD BE PERMISSION OR HEIDI. THIS IS ONE OF THE SLIDES. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT HASN'T COME UP ON YOUR SLIDE PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE OVERVIEW OF THE ENTIRE INTERSECTION THAT IS IN THE POD APPLICATION. AND SO, UH, ALSO A NEXT SLIDE PRESENTATION, PERFECT. GO TO IT IS THE RENDERING OF WHAT NORTHWEST CORNER LOOKS LIKE AND HAS BEEN, IS GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. AND SO, UH, WE GIVE IT TO JENNIFER AGAIN, WE ONLY GOT HER STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON FRIDAY. WE GOT HER A RED LINE, UH, TODAY OF WHAT WILL WORK IN A POD FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, TO MAKE THIS A REGIONAL PUB. THIS IS LIKE HUGE, HUGE, UH, 250 MILLION PLUS TAX VALUE TO THE CITY. DOESN'T JUST SERVE YOUR CITY. I NEED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. THIS PROJECT IS LARGE ENOUGH THAT THE CITY CAN'T SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. IT HAS TO BE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE OF YOUR CITY TO SPEND THEIR DOLLARS HERE TO [02:35:01] SUPPORT IT. AND SO THIS IN ESSENCE IS WHAT THE INTERSECTION WOULD LOOK LIKE. THE RENDERING THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE AESTHETICS WOULD BE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. JENNIFER, DO YOU HAVE THAT RENDERING? THIS ISN'T A PRESENTATION. WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, TO PUT UP ANYTHING THAT'S NOT IN THE PRESENTATION ALREADY. OKAY. WELL, SO, SO JENNIFER, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S ENOUGH DETAIL FOR, TO, FOR US TO VOTE ON A PD BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT THAT BASICALLY SAID, IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT WE'RE, THIS IS GONNA BE THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE THINK THE RIGHT DIRECTION IS, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE A PLAN THAT, THAT KIND OF LETS THAT MATERIALIZED. AND SO THERE IS ONE OTHER SLIDE THAT SHOWS, UM, I'VE YES, THE, THE, THE, THE SITE LAYOUT THAT THEY, UM, SUBMITTED WITH THE PD APPLICATION. AND, UM, IT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO, IT'S NOT THIS ONE. THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S IN OUR PACKET. IT WAS UPSIDE DOWN, WHICH WAS JUST CONFUSING. I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY WAS NORTH. WELL, YEAH, I WAS, I WAS GONNA SAY, IT LOOKED VERY SIMILAR TO COUNSELOR ONE. THERE IT IS, COME UP YET. THERE YOU GO. THAT WAY. AND AGAIN, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS ALREADY APPROVED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY. IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WATCH PLANTATION ROAD, BUT THERE'S AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS ALREADY A DISCIPLINARY OF THIS WHOLE INTERSECTION BEING A REGIONAL PUB. AND SO HOW THAT, FOR CLARIFICATION, BUT THAT CLARIFICATION, SO THE LANDSCAPE HAS NOT YET OCCURRED AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE, BUT THEY TOP DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO DO FOR THEM. THIS WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO DEVELOP AN AGREEMENT YOU HAVE HEARD. THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE. AS I SAID, THE BOUNDARIES OF IT STOPPED AT THAT DOTTED LINE. AND DON'T GO TO WATCH PLANTATION ROAD. THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL WITH PHASE ONE WHERE THE KROGER IS BECAUSE IT WAS ANTICIPATED WHEN I BOUGHT THE 10 ACRES THAT IS ALREADY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER THAT MR. WARNER AND I WOULD COME TO THE AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE THE BALANCE OF THE 70 ACRES. ONLY FOR 12 YEARS, WE COULDN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH HIM JUST AS A CITY. COULDN'T COME IN TO BRING IT WITH THEM ON 85, MR. WARNER HAS SINCE PASSED AWAY, REBOUND, ABLE TO COME THROUGH THE BRAIN WITH HIS HEIRS. AND SO THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND IN FACT, IT SHOWS RETAIL ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST EVEN FURTHER. AND THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS CURRENT AND IN PLACE. BUT AGAIN, IT STOPS AT THAT DOTTED LINE BEHIND THAT FIRST MONTH, IT DOES NOT GO ALL THE WAY TO WASH PLANT PLACE ROAD. AND THAT WAS ALL PART OF THE AGREEMENT WHEN I BUILT THE FEEDER ROADS OF THE FORT BEND TOLLWAY. SO THAT IS STILL AN EFFECT. IT DOESN'T HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE, UH, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND DO SOMETHING SPECIAL HERE. UH, WE THINK WE CAN MAKE THIS A GYM OF THE CITY. I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT PRODUCES A LOT OF INCOME FOR THE STATE. BUT IF I'M ASKED TO BILL CITY CENTER, I CAN'T BUILD CITY CENTER, I WOULD BE WAITING 30 OR 40 YEARS TO DO THAT AT THIS INTERSECTION. AND SO NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. OKAY. LET, LET'S, LET'S STOP AND LESS REGROUP. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING AND TO GET OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM STAFF. SO WE THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ALVAREZ. NOW BACK TO THIS, IF JENNIFER, WHAT IS THIS ON THE SCREEN? IS THIS THE PART THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION? IS THIS WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO GIVE A PD ON? SO THIS IS WHAT IS ON THE TABLE. OKAY. THIS IS THE LAYOUT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THAT PROPOSED LAND USES ARE LP THREE. AND SO THERE AREN'T DEVELOPMENT BANDAIDS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. SO IF THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PD AND APPLY [02:40:01] ELSIE THREE, OR WELL, ELSIE THREE AND MFC FENDER, IT DOESN'T LOCK IN THIS SITE PLAIN. UM, OR IF IT'S JUST THE MINIMUM FENDER. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, ALL USE IS PERMITTED IN LP, THREE I'LL USE IT SUBMITTED IN MSU, UM, WOULD BE PERMITTED, UM, ON THE SITE, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS, IS WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, IS TO ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SOME OF THE EXAMPLES, UM, THAT THEY WENT THROUGH WITH SOME OF THOSE OTHER LOCATIONS OR TALKING ABOUT LIKE WALKING TRAILS, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT LANDSCAPING, THE COURTYARDS, UM, THAT YOU FEED THAT HAS TO BE TRANSLATED INTO A REGULATION. OTHERWISE THERE'S NOTHING, UM, THAT BINDS THE LANDLORDS. IT'S JUST YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, OPENING IT UP TO WHATEVER PERMITTED, UH, WITHIN THAT DISTRICT. WE CAN'T, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONVERSATION HERE. SO THE BACK RECOMMENDATION, UM, IS REALLY BASED ON, WE NEED TO TRANSLATE THIS INTO REGULATION. UM, THAT'S STILL TAKES SOME WORK BETWEEN STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER, AND STEVE ALLUDED TO, UM, THE, UM, THE RED LINE, UM, OF THE REPORT. AND YET THEY HAVE PROVIDED, UM, SOME FEEDBACK BACK ON THE REPORT. WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, UH, TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF THAT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST KIND OF, THIS IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO, OPINION. THIS IS TOO EARLY IT'S IT'S BEFORE US TOO EARLY. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. SO AGAIN, I LIKED THE IDEA OF A MULTIFAMILY BLENDED WITH ELSIE THREE, BUT YEAH, THE REGULATIONS NEED TO BE FLESHED OUT, TIM, YOU WERE SAYING, WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, UM, TO ME, IF WE VOTED TO FORWARD THIS TO CITY COUNCIL, I'M NOT SURE THAT I KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR. EXACTLY. OTHER THAN THE, THE PART. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S JUST A BUNCH OF STUFF MISSING TOO, TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER. I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE JUST RESOLVED IT. AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF I RECALL RECALL WHAT THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S LIKE, WE'RE JUST REZONING IT TO, TO A AND THEY DON'T NEED A PD. THEY CAN JUST GO WHEREVER THEY WANT. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF, IT FEELS LIKE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. AND, UM, I THINK EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT. THAT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE WHERE WE DROP HER TO CLOSE. DID WE ALREADY VOTE HIM? WE CLOSED A COUPLE OF HEARING. WE DID THAT. ALRIGHTY. IS THERE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THEY CAN MEET BACK WITH STAFF AND DISCUSS THE REGULATION AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT. UM, LET ME GET CLARITY ON YOUR MOTION FIRST, MS. WAY, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO DO HERE AT THIS JUNCTURE? I'M SORRY, MS. WAY, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD THE MATTER OVER AND YOU CAN DO A DATE, SIR, OR YOU CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE CLOSE TO ME IF YOU DON'T GET THE DATE. CERTAIN, IF THE DETAILS ARE ADDED THIS WAY, I'M SORRY. I DID NOT UNDERSTAND YOU. YOUR PHONE IS BUFFERING AND GOING IN AND OUT. IF I'M JENNIFER, SOMEBODY CAN REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID. SHE SAID THAT WE CAN TABLE IT. UM, BASICALLY, UH, AND THEN WE CAN SET A DATE ON IT OR WE CAN JUST CARRY IT OVER SPECIFICALLY, HAULED THE MATTER OUT THEY KILLED IT. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO HOLD THE MATTER OVER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DID YOU UNDERSTAND HER, MS. LUCAS? NO, I DID NOT. I'M SORRY. I BELIEVE WHAT SHE SAID IS THAT IF YOU TABLE THE MATTER IT WILL KILL IT. BUT IF YOU AGREE, IF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD THE MATTER. OKAY. BUT IF MORE TIME, I'M SORRY. I SHOULD ASK UNDER ADVISEMENT. OKAY. [02:45:04] OKAY. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION TO TABLE IT AND I MAKE THE MOTION TO HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT. IS THAT WHAT IT IS? YES. MA'AM. MS. IS THERE A SECOND? IS THAT CORRECT? OH, I'M SORRY. YES. MA'AM SECOND FROM MR. HANEY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ARE THERE ANY NAYS? THANKS. NAH, FROM O'MALLEY ABSTENTIONS. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. WE HAVE NO ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS ON THE NIGHT. WE HAVE NO OTHER MATTERS THAT COME BEFORE US. IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN? SO MOVE COMMISSIONER SPIKY FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. WE'LL GET WITH STAFF AND BRING YOU SOMETHING BACK MORE CONCRETE. THANK YOU. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU GUYS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO ADJOURN AT NINE 46, 6:00 PM. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE AT NIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.