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SOUNDS GOOD

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TO ME.

WE'RE

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON TONIGHT.

IT'S RIGHT AT 7:00 PM.

THE CITY OF MISSOURI CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS HERE BY CALL TO ORDER ON TONIGHT.

QUIET AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A ROLL CALL OF EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

IF YOU WOULD SIGNIFY YOUR PRESENCE JUST BY SAYING AYE, THAT WOULD HELP MYSELF.

SONYA BROWN.

MARSHALL.

I AM PRESENT TIM HANEY.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

O'MALLEY.

THANKS MR. O'MALLEY GLORIA LUCAS HERE.

HI, MS. LUCAS.

THANK YOU, MS. OVERTON, KAREN OVERTON, KAREN OVERTON HERE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. OVERTON DANIEL SILVA, DANIEL SILVER.

OKAY, WELL WATCH TO SEE IF MAYBE HE JOINS US A LITTLE LATER ON HUGH BRIGHTWELL QUE BRIGHTWELL.

OKAY, WELL WATCH TO SEE IF HE JOINS US IN A LITTLE WHILE OR NOT COMMISSIONER BAILEY.

JAMES BAILEY HERE.

THANK YOU, MR. BAILEY COMMISSIONER ERASMUS, MONICA RASMUS.

WE'LL WATCH TONIGHT TO SEE IF MS. RASMUS JOINS US AS WELL.

I DO THINK THE SOUND HOUSE.

OH, IS SHE HERE? OKAY.

OKAY.

RASMUS IS PRESENT VERY WELL.

THANK YOU.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH US HERE ON TONIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

STAFF MEMBERS.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALSO JOINING US AND ATTENDEES AS WELL AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE MEETING.

UH, JIMA HAS PROVIDED ME WITH A LIST OF STAFF MEMBERS AND ATKINS THAT ARE PRESENT.

THEY CAN MAKE THEMSELVES, UM, READILY KNOWN AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH THE MEETING.

IS

[3. READING OF MINUTES]

THERE A MOTION THAT THE SEPTEMBER NINE, 2020 MEETING MINUTES BE ACCEPTED? THANK YOU, MR. HANEY, IS THERE A SECOND, LUCAS.

SECOND.

THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE.

AS WELL.

ARE THERE ANY NAYS OR IF THERE ARE ANY ABSTENTIONS GREAT.

THAT MOTION PASSES.

WE'LL MOVE RIGHT

[4. REPORTS]

ON INTO THE REPORTS.

UM, COMMISSION REPORTS, CHAIRMAN.

I DON'T HAVE A REPORT HANEY.

DO YOU OR ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

VERY WELL.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE'LL MOVE NOW WITH STAFF REPORTS, DIRECTOR OLDEST SPREADS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

GOOD EVENING.

MADAM CHAIR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME CAN, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO PAUSE JUST A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT I TOBAR IS NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH AS DESIGNATED BY THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION AND ALL ALSO OUR PROFESSIONAL INSTITUTE, THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS.

AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HIGHLIGHT, HIGHLIGHT BOTH PLANNING AND PLANNERS AND PROFESSIONALS THAT LEAD COMMUNITIES LIKE MISSOURI CITY TO BE, UM, EQUITABLE RESILIENT.

AND AS YOU KNOW, RECENTLY WE'VE HAD TO OF COURSE DEAL WITH THE LONG LASTING RECOVERY FROM THE EFFECTS OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC THAT HAD, HAS ALLOWED US TO BASICALLY MOVE BEYOND THE NORM AND LOOK AT PLANNING IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO WE'VE BEEN FORCED OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, TO BRIDGE THAT GAP FROM THE DIGITAL AGE AND AS WE MOVE CLOSER TO BEING A PAPERLESS SOCIETY.

SO, UM, WITH, UM, YOUR VIRTUAL MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS WE ADVANCE MISSOURI CITY AS A GREAT PLACE TO BOTH LIVE AND WORK.

SO THAT BEING SAID, THE CITY COUNCIL DID RECOGNIZE, UM, OCTOBER AS NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH.

I BRING IT FORTH THE PROCLAMATION, WHICH WAS READ ON OCTOBER THE FIFTH OF THIS MONTH.

SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SHOW CASE PLANNING AND ALSO THE CONTRIBUTIONS AS YOU AS LEADERS AND, UM, A COMMISSION THAT'S WORKING TOWARDS OR TO LEAD DEVELOPMENT AND YOUR CONTRIBUTION.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. OLDEST SPRIGS, OR ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSIONERS,

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WE ALL LIKE WHAT WE DO, WE ENJOY IT.

AND SO ON.

HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE CAN HAVE OUR CUPCAKES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WILL BE THE FIRST REAL CHALLENGE TO THIS TECHNOLOGY.

AGREED.

ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

CITY ENGINEERING.

UM, IS SOMEONE PRESENT TONIGHT? YES.

ALRIGHT.

JEREMY DAVIS.

YES.

GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONERS ENGINEERING HAS NO REPORT FOR THE NIGHT.

OKAY.

VERY WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON AHEAD.

UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

IT GIVES, UM, THOSE IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ITEMS OR CONCERNS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYONE? NO, THERE WASN'T ANYONE TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

UH, IIJIMA ONE MORE QUESTION.

AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH EVERYTHING ON TONIGHT AS, UM, APPLICANTS OR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE AS THEY ARE WANTING TO SPEAK.

W I GUESS SHE'LL SIGNIFY ME THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT NEEDS TO SPEAK.

IS THAT HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK? YES MA'AM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM SIX, THE PLATZ UNDER EIGHT, THE CONSENT AGENDA ONE, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR SIENNA SECTION 26 TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SIENNA, SECTION 34, B THREE, CONSIDERING AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SIANNA SECTION 38 FOR CONSIDERING THE APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SIANNA SECTION 42 FIVE, CONSIDERING AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR ALPHA CENTER.

AND I'M GOING TO DO EIGHT AT THIS TIME, CONSIDERING AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR FORT MEN, ISC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

IS THERE A MOTION THAT AT THIS TIME WE ACCEPT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, AND EIGHT.

AND HE, UH, UH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONDITIONALLY ACCEPT ITEMS ONE, THREE, FOUR, SEVEN, AND EIGHT, AND APPROVE ITEM TWO AND FIVE, BUT I GET A RIDE.

I THINK SO HANY, WHY DON'T I DO IT LIKE THIS? I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT THIS WAY.

I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO BACK AND YEAH, I DID.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT THIS FIRST? MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? WE HAVE A FEW MORE REPORTS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS ON THOSE ITEMS. PERMISSION TO LUCAS, MAKE THE MOTION TO PULL SIX AND SEVEN.

THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS, IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MS. RASMUS.

I AM SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

WE WILL COME BACK TO ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN NOW HANEY WHERE YOU, WE DO NEED TO VOTE.

YES.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

OKAY.

ANY NAYS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

I DON'T HANEY.

SO I GUESS MY MOTION, UH, NOW CHANGES TO, UH, I MOVED THAT WE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED ITEMS ONE, THREE, FOUR, AND EIGHT, AND APPROVE ITEMS TWO AND FIVE, BUT I GET IT RIGHT THAT TIME.

I THINK YOU DID.

YOU SAID, OKAY, SO ONE, FOUR AND EIGHT.

WAIT A MINUTE.

THREE, ONE, THREE AND EIGHT.

OKAY.

ARE CONDITIONALS CONDITIONAL.

OKAY.

AND TWO AND FIVE APPROVED.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? THE SECOND.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. LUCAS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

HI.

ALRIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY NAYS? ALRIGHT.

SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

NOW

[6A. (6) Consider an application for a final plat for Fort Bend Business Park Phase 2]

LET'S HAVE A, LET'S CONSIDER AN APPLICATION.

THIS WILL BE NUMBER SIX.

CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR FORT BEING BUSINESS PARK FACED.

HI COMMISSION.

THIS IS JENNIFER GOMEZ.

AND THE ONLY REASON TO PULL THIS ONE OFF IS A FACT WANTS TO ADD A COMMENT TO THE REPORT

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AND ON THE CURRENT REPORT, UH, IT REFERENCES THE CONFIRMATION OR PAYMENT OF IMPACT FEE.

AND FACT WANTS TO CLARIFY THAT STATEMENT, UH, TO READ THAT IMPACT FEES FOR THIS FINAL PLAT ARE JUST FOR THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT WITHIN REVERT B AND THAT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS ARE STILL REQUIRED TO PAY IMPACT FEES, UM, WHEN REQUESTING A UTILITY CONNECTION.

SO WE WANTED TO ADD THAT STATEMENT TO THE REPORT, UM, WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AND THAT, AND THEY WOULD ALSO PAY THE IMPACT FEES AT THE THEN CURRENT RATE.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, EXCEPT THE APPLICATION FOR THE FINAL PLATFORM FOR BEING BUSINESS PARK, INCLUDING JENNIFER'S, UM, ADDITIONAL COMMENT IN REGARDS TO FUTURE IMPACT FEES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. HANEY, IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. BAILEY, IS THERE FOR ANY DISCUSSION? ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION NOW WE'RE PULLING IT ARE WE'RE PROVING IT.

WELL, WE'VE ALREADY PULLED IT.

SO JENNIFER HAS EXPLAINED TO US ABOUT THE IMPACT FIFTIES.

OKAY.

SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET A, GET AN A, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT IT, INCLUDING JENNIFER'S ADDITIONAL STAFF REPORT.

DID YOU NEED JENNIFER TO GO OVER IT ONE MORE TIME? NO, I THINK I HEARD HER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO INSERT ANOTHER VERBIAGE IN HERE ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE.

SO WE'RE APPROVING IT WITHOUT THAT STATEMENT BEING IN THERE.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S BEING APPROVED WITH THE STATEMENT BEING PUT IN THERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY ONE ELSE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ANY NAYS? OKAY.

THAT MOTION PASSES AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

UNDER

[6A. (7) Consider an application for a final plat for Village of Sawmill Lake]

ITEM SEVEN, WE NEED TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAN FOR VILLAGE OF SAMIL LAKE.

I'VE GOT A PARAGRAPH CHANGE.

I THINK HERE WE HEAR YOU, JENNIFER.

HI.

OKAY, MIKE.

OH, MR. WHITE IS GOING TO TAKE IT.

OKAY.

UM, SO IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT, I'M SORRY.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

I HAD TO ADJUST MY SCREEN.

UH, THIS IS LOCATED IN, OF COURSE IN OUR ETJ IS SOUTH OF SIENNA PARKWAY IN EAST WATERS LAKE BOULEVARD, LOCATED BEHIND THE VANGUARD ONE, A SERIOUS SCHOOL.

UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, HAS SUBMITTED THE, UH, UPDATE FOR THE, UH, THE STATEMENT TO THE PLANT.

UM, SO WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE, UH, THIS PLANT AND MOVE FORTH.

SO THERE DAVE ADDRESS THE CONDITION? YES, IT WAS, IT WAS A STATEMENT THAT THEY NEEDED TO ADD, UH, TO THE, UH, OWNER'S RE UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THIS FLAT.

IS THERE A SECOND? LUCAS, SECOND.

THANK YOU.

MISS LOOKS FAIR MUCH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

HI.

ANY NAMES? OKAY.

THAT MOTION PASSES.

[6B. PARKS EDGE]

WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM SIX B UH, WE'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR AN UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN FOR PARKS EDGE MEAN COMMISSION.

THIS IS GRETCHEN PILE, AND THIS IS THE, UM, UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN FOR PARK'S EDGE.

THE PURPOSE OF THE UPDATE WAS TO CLARIFY SECTION BOUNDARIES FOR PARKS EDGE SECTION

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17, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN AS S F UM, EIGHT, AND THEN TO LABEL THE REMAINING FUTURE SECTIONS FOR 18 AND 19 ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.

AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.

OKAY.

IT'S I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT'S IT'S, I'M DOING MY ARROW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S THE MIDDLE PART WHERE IT SAYS SECTION 17.

IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

WE DON'T SEE YOUR CURSOR, SO, OH, OKAY.

WE CAN'T SEE IT.

IS IT THAT BLUE AREA OR THAT YELLOW COLOR? YES.

IT'S IN BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, TWO DETENTION PONDS.

YES.

THE TWO ARE THE DETENTION PONDS.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

WE'RE FINE.

BUT THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WAS MADE.

THERE WERE NO OTHER CHANGES MADE TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.

I THINK THIS IS JUST SOME LINES THAT YOU'RE ADDING JUST A LITTLE MORE SPACE TO DETENTION.

WE DIDN'T LOSE HOUSES.

WE DIDN'T ADD HOUSES.

WE DIDN'T DO ANY OF THAT STUFF.

OKAY.

ALRIGHTY.

WE CAN SEE YOUR CURSOR NOW FOR SOME WEEKS WE CAN SEE YOUR CURSOR.

ALL OF A SUDDEN.

THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

IT SOUNDS IN CONCERT PLAN.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER OVER 10 SECONDS.

THANK YOU, MISS OVER 10.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT, MR. O'MALLEY IF YOU'RE SAYING AYE OR NO OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU OR SEE YOU.

WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEMS C HERITAGE PARK DRIVE, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THE TWO, TWO, TWO, TWO, TWO.

THANK YOU.

SORRY.

THIS IS FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PARTS EDGE SECTION 17.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK LUCAS.

OH, NO, THAT WAS MS. OVERTON THAT TIME.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, THERE ARE NO NAYS.

I DON'T SEE ANY MORE MOVE FORWARD.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NOW WE'LL

[6C. HERITAGE PARK DRIVE BRIDGE STREET DEDICATION]

GO TO ITEM C HERITAGE PARK DRIVE GRID STREET DEDICATION, UH, WILL RECONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR HERITAGE PARK DRIVE BRIDGE STREET DEDICATION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

IN REGARDS TO THE LOCATION THAT IS SOUTH A EXTENSION OF THE HERITAGE PARK DRIVE AND NORTH TO SIENNA, SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30 TO BE SOUTH OF SANTA ANA RIVER PARKWAY AND EAST OF THE BRAZOS RIVER LOCATED IN OUR ETJ.

IN REGARDS TO THE RECONSIDERATION OF THIS, THE APPLICANT DID COME BEFORE YOU BEFORE AND RECEIVED THE APPROVAL ON FEBRUARY 12TH OF 2020.

UH, THEY HAD THREE MINOR REVISIONS, UH, TO INCLUDE THE WIDENING AND, UH, THE NORTH AND SOUTH STUB STREETS OF WRESTLING CREEK DRIVE FROM 70 FEET TO 80 FEET ALSO TO ADJUST THE SOUTHERNLY STUB ALIGNED STREET ALIGNMENT BY ADDING THE ART TO THE CENTER LINE AND ALSO INCREASING THE PLATE ACREAGE FROM 1.15, I'M SORRY, 1.15 ACRES TO 1.2 TO SEVEN ACRES.

WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE RECOMMEND THE ACTION OF THE APPROVAL OF THE RECONSIDERATION OF THE PLATE.

OKAY.

UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. WHITE IN REGARDS TO THIS, UH, OR IN REGARDS TO THESE CHANGES? WELL, I IT'S, I GUESS IT'S A PROCEDURAL THING.

UM, THAT EXPLANATION DIDN'T COME THROUGH WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON THE MATERIALS WE RECEIVED AS DID NOT THE CONCEPT

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PLAN UPDATES, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I LOOKED AT IT SEVERAL TIMES AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT CHANGED.

AND SO IN THE FUTURE, IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, STAFF REPORT HAVE SOME INDICATION AS TO WHY THESE CHANGES HAVE OCCURRED, BUT GIVEN THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE THIS A FINAL PLAT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT MOTION.

AND ALSO THOSE COMMENTS, MR. HANEY, IS THERE A SECOND? LOOK THE SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MOTION CARROTS? I'M SORRY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

HI, AYE.

ANY NAYS? OKAY.

NOW THE MOTION CARRIES AT THIS TIME.

I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION PLEASE, THAT WE SUSPEND THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.

AND IF WE COULD POSSIBLY, UH, MOVE ITEM SIX D AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE ITEM SEVEN, EIGHT FIRST.

WE'LL COME BACK TO SIX D AFTER WE TAKE SEVEN, EIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION ONLY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT ITEM THREE, SIX, B THREE WOULD THEN BECOME APPROVED AS, AS OPPOSED TO CONDITIONAL POSSIBLY.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION FIRST.

CAN YOU RESTATE THAT OFFER? I DIDN'T CATCH THAT.

SORRY.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS LOOKING AT THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM 61 AND TWO ARE FAIRLY STRAIGHT FORWARD, 63, 63 REQUIRED.

WHAT WAS, WAS IT RECOMMENDED TO BE APPROVED CONDITIONALLY BASED ON THE CONDITION OF ITEM SEVEN PASSING BASICALLY? IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT.

WELL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE SUSPEND THE RULES AND THERE'S ITEM SEVEN FIRST.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. HANEY.

IS THERE A SECOND LOOK A SECOND.

ARE THERE, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

HI.

HI, ANY NAMES? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT MOTION PASSES.

WE'LL MOVE NOW TO

[7A. ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS]

ITEM SEVEN.

THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AN SUP WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS FOR AGAINST THE REQUEST BY MR. FREEMAN OF LJA ENGINEERING, INC, FOR A SUP ON AN APPROXIMATE 34.66 ACRE TRACT OF LAND TO ALLOW FOR THE LOCATION OF AN ABOVE GROUND STORM WATER PUMP STATION FOR FOUR BEING COUNTY MUNICIPAL MUD 46.

GOOD EVENING.

EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES MA'AM YES.

UM, SO THE MAP ON THE SCREEN, SO THE DRAINAGE FACILITY THAT'S CURRENTLY OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY MONTH 46.

SO ALL OF THE AREA THAT'S OUTLINED IN RED IS THAT 34.66 ACRES THAT'S DESCRIBED.

UM, AND SO THE PROPOSED THAT CP WOULD COVER THAT ENTIRE ACREAGE.

UM, HOWEVER, THE, UH, APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF WHERE THE STORM WATER PUMP STATION IS GOING.

YOU SEE THE LITTLE RED BOX IN THE CALL OUT, UM, UH, WOULD BE IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S SHOWN ON THE MAP.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND AND THIS WILL ASSIST WITH, UM, THE PREVIOUS ITEMS, UH, FOR, UM, AGENDA ITEM 60.

UM, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND ON, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, HOW WE CAME TO THIS AND WHY YOU HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS PROJECT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY PART OF THE COLONY LAKE CONCEPT PLAN, AND THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, A CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTED IN THE MID 1990S TO ABOUT

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EARLY 2000.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAD ALWAYS BEEN IDENTIFIED, UM, AS A DRAINAGE FACILITY, UM, THAT SUPPORTED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SUBDIVISION.

THERE'S A LEVY, UH, JUST TO THE SOUTH END OF THIS PROPERTY, UM, THAT EXISTED, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT SUPPOSITION.

AND THEN AS THE CONCEPT PLAN INCLUDED THE JOURNEYS FACILITY, UH, RECREATIONAL TRAILS, AND THEN ALSO A FUTURE, UH, SECTION OF THE SUBDIVISION, THE DEVELOPER DEEDED, THE PROPERTY TO LED 46, UM, IN THE EARLY 2000, ROUGHLY BETWEEN 2003 AND 2007.

SO HOW DID WE COME TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW? UM, THE PROJECT ENGINEERS ARE ON THE CALL AND THEY CAN WALK YOU THROUGH ANY TECHNICAL, UM, ASPECTS OF, UM, HOW THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK AND WHY THIS SYSTEM IS NEEDED.

BUT THE BROAD UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS, UM, THE, UH, SITUATION THAT WE HAD WITH HURRICANE HARVEY, UM, HURRICANE I, UM, THOSE RAIN EVENTS, UM, THIS WILL BE A SYSTEM THAT THE MUDDY WOULD USE, UH, TO HELP MITIGATE, UM, THOSE, UM, EXTREME RAIN EVENTS.

SO THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD THIS PUMP STATION.

IT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, A PUMP STATION, UM, ITSELF, A CONTROL BUILDING, A GENERATOR, UM, AND SOME RELATED EQUIPMENT WITHIN AN ENCLOSED, UM, PORTION OF THE SITE, UM, WHEN THE PLANS WERE SUBMITTED, UH, FOR REVIEW, UH, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE CALLED OUT WAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR FLAT.

UM, IT'S A, WE'LL GO INTO THAT LATER IN THE SLIDE.

UM, AS WE LOOKED AT THE FLAT REQUIREMENTS, UM, THE ISSUE OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL, UM, WAS ALSO HIGHLIGHTED NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, UM, IN THE MATERIALS, AND I KNOW YOU RECEIVED THESE MATERIALS LATE, UM, BUT YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT PLAN IS FROM 2000, UH, SAM, UH, SEPTEMBER, 2000 AS THIS WAS, UH, ONE OF THE LAST APPROVED CONCEPT PLANS FOR COLONY LAKE.

AND SO, UH, HIGHWAY SIX IS KIND OF ADD AN ANGLE IN THIS MAP AND YOU CAN SEE THIS PROPERTY, UH, TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, UM, WITHIN THE BOAT MINE THERE.

AND SO YOU SEE, UH, THE DRAINAGE FACILITY AND, UH, KIND OF THE PREPLANNING, UH, FOR THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, GREATER THINGS TO THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE LAST APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN FOR COLONY LAKE THAT REFERENCES THIS SAME PROPERTY AND THIS, UM, THIS CONCEPT CLAIMS FROM 2002 AND THAT'S THE, THE LAST ONE WE HAVE ON FILE, UM, UH, AS AN APPROVED CONCEPT FOR THE SUBDIVISION.

SO THE LAST SECTION OF THE SUBDIVISION WAS, UM, DEVELOPED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LAKE OLYMPIA.

IT'S SHOWN US LIKE OLYMPIA PARKWAY HERE, UM, BUT IT IS OIL FIELD ROAD.

UM, IT, UH, THE LAST SECTION WAS ON THAT SIDE.

AND AFTER THAT POINT, UH, THE DEVELOPER NEVER DEVELOPED A FUTURE SECTION THAT'S SHOWN IN THIS AREA.

UM, BUT DEEDED THE PROPERTY OVER TO THE NIGHT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE MUD ENGINEER, UM, SUBMITTED THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, VARIOUS A SITE PLAN THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKGROUND MATERIALS AND MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO MAKE OUT, BUT GENERALLY WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THE ENCLOSED AREA AROUND, UH, WHERE THE PUMP STATION AT FACILITY WOULD BE LOCATED ENCLOSED BY A FENCE.

AND THEN, UH, WHERE YOU KIND OF SEE THE, THE BUBBLE CALL-OUT, UM, WOULD BE THE ACCESS ROAD FROM BETHANY BAY DRIVE, UM, TO, UH, PROVIDE ACCESS TO, UH, THE STORM WATER COMPENSATION SITE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, UH, ON THE PLAT, UM, WHEN THIS WAS REVIEWED FOR CONSTRUCTION PLANS, UM, PART OF THOSE, UH, REQUIREMENTS WERE THAT THE FINAL FLAT, UM, BEYOND FILE OR FAT, UM, BE RECORDED, UM, FOR THE SUBDIVISION.

SO AGAIN, THIS PORTION WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE COLONY LAKES AREA.

EVENTUALLY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PLANTED AS PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION, UM, BUT THE DEVELOPER DEEDED THE PROPERTY TO THE MUD, UM, PRIOR TO, UM, INCLUDING THIS WITHIN A SUBDIVISION PLAT.

UM, SO THE, UH, FLAT, UM, BACK HOW THE FLAT, UH, CAME TO BE, UM, UH, WHAT

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YOU SEE HERE IS FROM THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WHERE SITE APPROVAL IS REQUIRED, UM, OF THE SUBDIVISION I'VE BEEN IN TRACTOR LAND, UM, PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY UTILITY FACILITY FACILITY, UM, AND PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, UM, PART OF THE OTHER CONDITION WITH THE PLAT IS THAT A FINAL PLAT CAN NOT BE APPROVED UNTIL A PRELIMINARY PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

.

SO AS THE, UH, THE MED ENGINEER WAS BEING ASKED TO SUBMIT A PLAT, UM, BASED ON, AND I HAVEN'T SET THE SCHEDULE, I THINK IN THE REPORT, UM, IT PROVIDES ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE MUD ANTICIPATED SUBMITTING CONSTRUCTION PLANS, UM, JUNE, JULY, UH, WITH, UH, BIDDING OF THE WORK, THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, BEGINNING, SEPTEMBER, UM, AND CONSTRUCTION TO START IN OCTOBER.

SO BASED ON THAT TIMELINE, UM, AND NOT ANTICIPATING THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PLAT, UM, THE MONEYS THERE WAS LOOKING AT, UM, WAYS THAT THEY COULD, UM, PLAQUE THE PROPERTY, UM, THE QUICKEST.

AND SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS IS CALLED THE ABBREVIATED CLOTTING PROCEDURE, UM, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A FAST WAY FOR FLAT RECORD THE PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUIREMENTS, UM, UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

AND SO THE CONDITIONS ARE LISTED THERE ON THE SLIDE.

UM, THE TWO, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE IN BREAD OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT DID NOT NEED, UM, BECAUSE THE, UH, UTILITY SITE WAS GOING TO BE IN ITS OWN SEPARATE REVERSE THAT DOES NOT, UM, IMMEDIATELY, UH, FRONT, UH, DEDICATED STREETS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

.

SO THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THE SQP REQUIREMENT WHERE THE CITY DOES REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL, UM, FOR ABOVE GROUND FACILITIES.

SO ANY PART OF UTILITY FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO HAVE, UM, VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, UM, WOULD REQUIRE FCC APPROVAL UNLESS IT MEETS CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

AND SO IN THOSE CONDITIONS ARE OUTLINED ON THIS SLIDE, UM, WITH A CONDITION THAT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, UM, WAS NOT MEETING, UM, OUTLINED IN RED.

SO AS THE PROJECT ENGINEER WORKED ON THE SURVEY WORK, UM, FOR THE PLAQUE, UM, THE LOCATION OF THE ACTUAL STORM WATER PUMP STATION SITE IS ABOUT 150 FEET AWAY FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL LOT.

I'M IN THE COLONY LAKE SUBDIVISION.

UM, IT IS PLANTED SEPARATELY, UM, AT LEAST IT'S PROPOSED TO BE PLANTED SEPARATELY.

UM, BUT THAT, THAT WAS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.

AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ISSUE WITH THE BUFFER YARDS, UM, AND ALSO THE FENCING REQUIREMENTS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE FAC RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR THE SVP ARE, UM, TO APPROVE THE SUP AGAIN, IT WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE ACREAGE, UH, THAT THE MUD, UM, OWNS AND MAINTAINS IN THAT AREA.

UM, IT WOULD BE OVER THAT ENTIRE ACREAGE WITH THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT UTILITY WITHIN, UM, THAT SPECIFIC AREA AS CALLED OUT ON THE SITE PLAN, UM, ON THE BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENTS, THE FACT REPORT, UM, DOES ASK THE QUESTION WHETHER ADDITIONAL BUSTLING OR SPRAINING WOULD BE NEEDED.

UM, AND SO ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, IF AN SUP, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE BEEN EXEMPTED WOULD BE THAT ANY BUFFER YARD THAT'S TYPICAL, UM, BASED ON SECTION 11 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, WAS IN PLACE.

SO THE APICAL BUS APPLICABLE BUFFER YARD TO THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WOULD BE, IT'S A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE THAT ENJOYS THE RESIDENTIAL USE.

UM, IT'S RIGHT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UM, WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

SO THE TYPICAL BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENT WOULD BE A 20 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE LANES WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO THAT, UH, RESIDENTIAL USE, UM, WITH TYPE A SCREENING, INCLUDING MASONRY WALL.

UM, IF THE USE OF THE JOINT ALONG A, A UTILITY PIPELINE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THAT'S A MINIMUM OF 40 FEET THEN TYPE B SCREENING IS COMMITTED.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL THAT UP, UM, SEPARATE FROM THE SLIDE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN OR AT THE PLAQUE THAT'S PROPOSED, UM, THERE IS A, I THINK IT'S A 75, BUT WHY, UM, PIPELINE EASEMENT, UM, THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE, THE, UM, THE SUBDIVISION, UM, WITHIN THIS MUCH FACILITY.

SO WE WOULD BE TALKING MORE SO ABOUT TYPE B SCREENING, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF LANDSCAPING.

THAT'S CAN WE GO BACK? SO THAT'S WHY JUST FOR A SECOND.

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UM, SO THE, THE QUESTION HERE IS, UM, WITH THE BUFFER YARD, UM, WHETHER OR NOT, UM, WELL, ONE THE BUFFER YARD WITH THE, UM, PUMP BEING CITED AS A SEPARATE RIVERA IS TECHNICALLY NOT ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL USE, BUT THE ENTIRE SUP COVERING ALL OF THE, MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.

SO THE QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION ON THE FUCKER YARD IS CONSIDERING, UH, THE SITE PLAN CONSIDERING, UM, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, CONSIDERING THE ASPECTS OF THE PUMP STATION FACILITY, IF, UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, BUFFERING, UM, UH, NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT THE PROJECT ENGINEERS SUBMITTED IN RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED.

UM, THERE WERE A LIST OF QUESTIONS, UH, THAT, AND WE INCLUDED THAT IN THE PACKET.

UM, BUT THIS GIVES A LITTLE BETTER VIEW OF WHAT THOSE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE.

UM, SO WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BUFFERING, UM, OR LIKE REDUCING NOISE, UM, YOU KNOW, REDUCING THE VISIBILITY OF THIS FACILITY, UM, THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

SO, UH, THE AREA IN RED IS WHAT THE PROJECT ENGINEERS, UM, OUTLINED AS, UM, THEIR ONLY ANTICIPATED AREA OF DISTURBANCE.

UM, BUT YOU SEE THE HEAVY VEGETATION, HEAVY TREE LINE, UM, THAT'S THIS THING, ALL OF THAT OUTSIDE OF THE RED, WITH THE EXPECTED TO REMAIN, UM, WITH JUST THE ROAD, UM, BEING CARVED OUT, UM, AND THEN THE PUMP STATION SITE, UM, CARVED OUT AS WELL.

SO THE VISIBILITY, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC MAY BE MINIMAL, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE PART OF, UM, THE CONSIDERATION ON THE BUFFERING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO ALSO IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S MORE CLARIFICATION FROM THE PROJECT ENGINEERS ON, UM, PARKING, UM, THE ACCESS AS BEING ANTICIPATED FROM A RESIDENTIAL STREET BACK IN THE BAY DRIVE.

UM, BUT WHAT THE ANTICIPATED, UM, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE, UM, PARKING, UM, PARKING, UM, FOR THIS FACILITY, UM, WHO WOULD, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY HAVE ACCESS, UH, JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF WHO WOULD BE COMING DOWN THAT RESIDENTIAL STREET, UM, WHAT WOULD BE COMING DOWN THAT RESIDENTIAL STREET, UM, AT WHAT RATE, UH, TO THE PROJECT SITES ALSO ON THE FENCING, UM, THE DEVELOP, THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED, UM, INDICATES AN EIGHT FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE, UM, PROPOSAL CLOSE OF THE SITE, UH, THIS GOING BACK TO THE STP REQUIREMENTS, UM, WOULD REQUIRE, UM, ESSENTIALLY THINK FENCING THAT MATCHES THE COMMUNITY FENCING REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO THAT CAN EITHER BE, UM, MASONRY, UM, OR WOOD WITH BRICK TILE AFTER, UM, IN CERTAIN, UM, INTERVALS, UM, YOU KNOW, FINISHED AND, UM, UM, MAINTAIN.

UM, SO THE FACT RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS TO REQUIRE A WOOD FENCE, UH, AT A MINIMUM, UM, AROUND THE PERIMETER, UM, MAINTAIN THE HEIGHT AT AC, BUT REQUIRE, UM, OF WOODFIN.

AND THEN ALSO, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT, UH, THE CURRENT ZONING IS SPLIT FOR THAT ENTIRE 34, UM, ACRE PROPERTY.

UH, SO A PORTION OF IT IS A ZONE RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN A PORTION OF IT IS A COMMUNITY FACILITY.

UH, SO THIS RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE LIGHTING IS PROPOSED, UM, FOR THIS PUMP STATION SITE, UM, IS TO APPLY THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES, UH, LIGHTING REGULATIONS, UH, WITHIN THE SVP AND ESSENTIALLY, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM, UH, TO LIMIT OR, UM, CONTROL THE FLOW OF LIGHT THAT THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY MAY EMANATE, UM, OUT TO THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES NEXT.

THAT MAY BE ALL I THINK.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL, UM, ON THE, UM, THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE, UM, THE PROJECT ENGINEERS ARE ON THE CALL.

SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON, UM, ANY TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE ACTUAL PUMP STATION, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE, UH, RECEIVED A LOT OF PUBLIC INTEREST, UH, FOR THIS FACILITY, UM, HOW IT'S GOING TO OPERATE, UM, WHY IT'S BEING CONSIDERED, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO THE PROJECT ENGINEERS ARE ON THE CALL, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH RESPONSES TO THAT.

UM, BUT OVERALL, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S, UH, SEVERAL ASPECTS TO THE PROJECT, UM, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMPUTATION

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FOR MITIGATION PURPOSES.

AND THEN, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DETAILS, UH, TO GET US TO THAT POINT.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, JENNIFER, UH, COMMISSIONER.

SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JENNIFER? WELL, JENNIFER, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE REPORT.

I THINK IT, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, IT SHOULD ADDRESS MOST OF PEOPLE'S CONCERNS.

MOST OF THE QUESTIONS, UM, I GUESS, UM, THE PROJECT ENGINEERS HOPEFULLY CAN ANSWER THE PARKING QUESTION, ALTHOUGH IN MY MIND, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT BEING ANY ISSUE AT ALL.

UM, I DIDN'T WANT TO WONDER ABOUT THE WOUND FENCING THING, CAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE CHAIN LINK WITH THE SLAS AND, UM, AND, BUT THAT'S USUALLY WHERE WE HAVE SOME LEEWAY WITH A, LIKE A PD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I GUESS FROM YOUR DESCRIPTION, THE A SUP BASICALLY SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY STANDARDS AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE PROJECT WE'LL HAVE TO BUY INTO THAT, BUT, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY GIVEN THAT.

UM, BUT IN GENERAL, I THINK, UH, I THINK THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE REPORT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES AND, UH, AND KIND OF MAP OUT A WAY FORWARD.

AND, AND I'LL SAY ON THE FIFTH THING YOU DO, YOU DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY THERE.

UM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE WOODFIN THING IS IF THEY HAD ALREADY PLANTED THE PROPERTY AS A, UM, FOR THIS PURPOSE, UM, THE WOODSON TEAM WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THEY DIDN'T NEED SUP APPROVAL, BUT BECAUSE THEY PROPOSED CHAIN LINK FENCING, UM, IT DOESN'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.

SO YOU DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY, THE FACT RECOMMENDATION, UM, IF THEY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE WOOD THING, BUT THE COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIN LINK FENCING, ADDING, YOU KNOW, THE VINYL FLAG OR ADDING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROTECTIVE COVERING TO IT FOR GREATER, UH, BREEDING.

UM, YOU HA YOU DO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE THAT, THAT RECOMMENDATION.

YEAH.

I WAS JUST CONSIDERING LONGEVITY OF A WOOD FENCE VERSUS A CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH SLATS.

I'M NOT SURE IF ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FROM A, FROM A LONGER TERM VIEW, WHAT THE CONCERN WOULD BE.

UM, IS THERE ANY KIND OF WAY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY SEE? CAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A VERY SMALL AREA THAT WILL BE, UM, EXPOSED TO THE SUBDIVISION? UH, YEAH, THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S A SMALL AREA, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HOUSE AROUND.

YEAH.

OBVIOUSLY TO THE SOUTH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CARE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UH, FOR CONSISTENCY SAKE, I I'D LIKE TO SEE IT IT'D BE ALL THE SAME AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUTTING A WOOD FENCE IN THE ONE SIDE.

HMM.

WHAT, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO TO THE SOUTH HANEY? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS THAT JUST ALL? OH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY CLOSE TO THE SOUTH.

I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A BIG, HUGE OPEN AREA.

YEAH.

OPEN AREA THERE.

YEAH.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LEVY, UM, AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE LEVEE, YOU HAVE ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN RIVER POINT CHURCH, AND THEN THE POSSIBLE DEEPER MONTESSORI, BUT THE LEVY WAS SCREENED THAT WHOLE FACILITY FROM, FROM ANYTHING TO THE SOUTH.

RIGHT.

I KNOW ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE RESIDENTS WAS ABOUT THE, UM, THAT, THAT WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE NORTH FACING SIDE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE, MAKE SURE WE SATISFY THE SCREENING TO THE NORTH SIDE.

RIGHT.

I WAS JUST MORE SO THINKING ABOUT WHAT COULD COME ON THE SOUTH.

YEAH.

WELL, OKAY, GOOD.

UM, SO WE'LL JUST FOCUS ON THE NORTH.

UM, MY OPINION IS THAT WE, BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS, ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WAS THAT THE RESIDENT WAS TOLD NOTHING WAS GONNA EVER REBUILT THERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE K CONCEPT PLAN, THEY HAD SLATED HOUSES TO BE BUILT THERE.

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OKAY.

UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YES.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER BAILEY.

YES, SIR.

UH, ON THE, UH, AGENDA PACKET TOO, I'M LOOKING AT, UH, THE QUESTIONS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC IN RESPONSES FROM THE PROJECT ENGINEER AND CITY STAFF, UH, QUESTION NUMBER 10, WHICH I IS ON PDF PAGE 81.

IT SAYS, IN WHICH DIRECTION WILL STORM WATERS BE PUMPED? WILL THEY BE PUMPED OVER THE LEVY AWAY FROM COLONY LAKE SUBDIVISION OR FROM THE OTHER SIDE DUMPING TOWARD THE COLONY LAKES SUBDIVISION THE RESPONSE BY THE PROJECT ENGINEER OR WAS STORMWATER WILL BE DISCHARGED OUT OF THE, UH, FBC MUD SIX 46 AND TWO FLAT BANK CREEK STORMWATER WILL NOT BE PUMPED BACK INTO THE DISTRICT.

OKAY.

IF YOU SCROLL BACK UP, THERE'S AN IMAGE.

I THINK IT'S PDF PAGE 60, IT'S PROCEEDING THE, UH, DRAWINGS OF THE PUMP STATION.

IT'S A COLOR PHOTO, A LETTER SIZE THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE OF THE, UH, PROJECT.

UH, AND I THINK JENNIFER SHOWED A CLIP OF THIS SNIPPET OF IT.

THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A UP, BUT IF YOU STAND BACK FROM IT, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE IMAGERY SHOWING CONNIE LAKES, NOT TO THE NORTH AND THEN CREEKSTONE TO THE EAST, I THINK.

AND, UH, OR MAYBE SOUTHEAST UNDER STATUS ROTATED.

UH, UH, SO IT'S NOT FACING NECESSARILY, BUT MAYBE DIFFERENT.

BUT HERE'S MY QUESTION FROM THAT IMAGE.

DO I UNDERSTAND THAT OUTLAW, THAT OUTFLOW BEING ONE IN WHICH MAYBE I SHOULD POSE AS A QUESTION WHEN WE SAY IT'S GOING TO FLATTEN BANK CREEK, IS THAT THE CREATE THERE TO THE BOTTOM OUT OF THAT PHOTO, MR. FREEMAN, IF YOU'RE ON WHICH COULD YOU POSSIBLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION PLEASE FOR MR. BAILEY ON MUTE? HELLO, THIS IS JACOB MINTER FROM LJA ENGINEERING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.

YES.

YES.

HELLO.

UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US ON HERE TO DISCUSS THE PUMP STATION TONIGHT.

AND TO CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION.

YES.

UM, FLATBED CRANK IS TO THE SOUTHEAST THAT'S APPROXIMATELY MAYBE 1500 FEET ALONG TO THE SOUTHEAST.

IT'S CLEAR IN THIS IMAGE, THE PUMP STATION WOULD TAKE FLOWS FROM THAT PRETTY GREEN DISCHARGE FROM COLONY LAKES, WHICH IS UP TO THE NORTH AND ANY WATER THAT GETS TO THAT POINT, WHICH IS THE WHOLE DISTRICT RIGHT NEXT TO THE PUMP STATION WOULD GO SOUTH.

AND TO THAT BLUE PENCIL KIND OF LINE DOWN THERE, THE TREES THAT CREEPED A LITTLE NATURAL CREEK IN THE WOODS THERE, AND IT ENDS UP GETTING TO CLAPPING CREEK WOULD JUST TO THE SOUTHEAST, NOTHING WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK UNLESS IT MADE ITS WAY THROUGH THE LEVEE.

OKAY.

AND I'LL SAY ACTUALLY THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO, TO ACCELERATE IF YOU WILL DRAINAGE FROM THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE COLONY LIGHTS AREA TO WHERE WE CAN REDUCE THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME OF THOSE HOMES, THOSE PROPERTIES FLOODING AS A RESULT OF A HEAVY RAINFALL EVENT, WHATEVER THAT COSTS TO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, 500 YEAR EVENT OR SOME ON THAT ORDER, THAT OUTFLOW, THEN I THINK YOU INDICATED IT WAS IN YOUR RESPONSE OF ANOTHER QUESTION.

AND IT'S PROBABLY ALSO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITHIN THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU WERE PRODUCING A FLOW RATE, EACH PUMP ONLY ORDER OF, WAS IT IN, REMEMBER I 14,500 GALLONS A MINUTE FOR EACH PUMP, IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO QUESTION SEVEN, UH, THERE'S THREE PUMPS EACH ONE 14,500 GALLONS PER MINUTE, A TOTAL HEAD OF 10 FEET.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

HERE'S MY QUESTION THEN.

YEAH.

AND I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD AND LOOKING AT FIGURE THAT WAS THE FLOW PATTERN AND IT MAY NOT BE A CONCERN OR CONSIDERATION OF THIS COMMISSION OR

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THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE PROPERTIES IN AND AROUND ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL? UH, THERE'S A NEW CHURCH THERE, UH, UH, UH, THING, SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN AND AROUND THAT BOUNDARY, THAT WATER THEN IS GOING TO BE FLOWING THROUGH THERE AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE AND MUCH GREATER VOLUME THAN IT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE.

AM I CORRECT? IT WOULD YES.

BE A POSSIBILITY.

UM, YES.

OKAY.

AND IS THAT, UH, CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONED WRITING ABOUT, UH, JOINING MUDS AND OUTFLOWS AND, AND UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR IMPACT FURTHER DOWNSTREAM.

AND AS I UNDERSTAND IF ONE PERSON ONE MONTH PROCEEDED OTHER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL ALLOWED TO, UH, I GUESS TAKE PRECEDENCE IN TERMS OF THE ACTIONS I TAKE TO CONTROL OUTFLOW.

UH, NOT ONLY POINT OF REFERENCE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE IS THAT DURING HARVEY, UH, WATER SURROUNDED ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL, THE PARKING LOT WAS FULL.

THEY CAME CLOSE TO FILLING THAT, TO BREACHING THE THRESHOLD OF THE, OF THE BUILDING FINISHED FOR, UH, I ACTUALLY SAW IT AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE MAY BE AGGRAVATING THAT CONDITION AT SOME FUTURE EVENT AND KEEP IN MIND THERE TO THE LEFT OF ELK.

THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND OVER TO THEIR Y AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE THAT MAY NOT APPEAR ON THE STRONG OR AT LEAST ARE PLANNED.

UH, SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE A, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HAVING AN IMPACT ON DRAINAGE IF YOU WILL DOWNSTREAM ABOUT OUTFLOW.

UM, IT WOULD, IT IS CORRECT.

HOWEVER, THE, UM, BEFORE ANY OF THIS WAS DONE AND THIS CAN BE PROVIDED, IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE IT, THERE IS A DRAINAGE ANALYSIS OF THIS PUMP STATION THAT WAS CONDUCTED.

AND IT SHOWS ANY EVENT THAT THIS PUMP STATION IS ACTIVATED, WHAT KIND OF A FLOW PATTERN, WHAT IS EXPECTED.

AND WE'RE SHOWING THAT IT WILL NOT IMPACT IN A NEGATIVE WAY ANY OF THE DOWNSTREAM FACILITIES, THEY WILL MAKE IT DOWN TO BLOODBANK CREEK WITHOUT HAVING AN IMPACT.

THAT WAS PART OF I'M SORRY.

OH YEAH.

THERE'S BEEN SOME STUDY DONE TO SAY, OKAY.

IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE A, IN FACT, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, DO YOU, WHAT IS YOUR DESIGN OF BEEN AS A HUNDRED YEAR, 200 YEAR, 500 YEAR, UH, RANK ALL EVENTS.

UH, WE SHOW SEVERAL EVENTS.

UM, THERE WOULD BE 25 YEAR, 100 YEAR AND A COINCIDENCE EVENT, WHICH IS TYPICALLY THE, UH, TYPICALLY THE LEVEL OF A, THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO WHEN GETTING APPROVALS.

THE COINCIDENCE OF VANTAGE IS AN EVENT WHERE ALSO THERE'S NO GRAVITY OUTFALL, BASICALLY WATER IS UP TO THE TOP OF THE PIPE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT.

SO IT'S AN, THAT WOULD ALMOST NEVER HAPPEN, BUT WE STILL DESIGNED TO IT.

AND IN THAT OF THE ACT, YOU'RE SAYING YOUR ANALYSIS SHOW THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A, YOU KNOW, THE WATER STILL FLOWS IN A MANNER A WHILE.

MATT WE'LL CALL THAT LITTLE CREEK BED, IF YOU ALL WERE, OR THAT STREAM FEATURE, UH, SOUTH, AND THEN TURNS EAST AND HEATHER WOULD FLAT BANK CREEK, THAT, THAT IT'S STILL A SUFFICIENT CAPACITY OR VOLUME THAT IT COULD DIRECT THAT WATER IN THAT EVENT.

WE THINK WITHOUT DETRIMENTALLY AFFECTING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF IT, THAT IS CORRECT.

AND I'LL JUST POINT OUT THE NUMBER SOUNDS LARGE, 14,500 GPM.

I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE AND CLARIFY THAT ONLY TWO OF THE THREE PUMPS ARE EVER EXPECTED TO RUN AT THE SAME TIME.

SO REALLY THE CAPACITY WOULD BE 29,000 GPM.

AND WE TYPICALLY WORK IN THE ENGINEERING SIDE AND CUBIC FEET PER SECOND, WHICH IF YOU TRANSFER THIS DOWN TO THAT RATIONALE, IT'S MORE AROUND THEM.

IT'S 29,000 GPM.

SO GIVE OR TAKE 120 CFS, THE PUMPING CAPACITY COMPARED TO WHAT THE DISCHARGES ARE TODAY IS ACTUALLY A MUCH SMALLER NUMBER.

THESE PUMPS DO HELP AND ASSIST GREATLY WHEN THERE'S NO GRAVITY OUTFALL, CAUSE THERE'D BE ZERO OTHERWISE, BUT THIS IS, I WON'T SAY IT'S A DROP IN A POND, BUT IT IS NOT A HUMONGOUS AMOUNT COMPARED TO THE AREAS AND GRAVITY DISCHARGES THAT

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ARE ALREADY ACCOMMODATED IN THESE DRAINS FEATURES.

IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

OKAY.

NO, I'M WITH YOU.

SO, AND I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED MY OTHER QUESTION AND THE CURRENT DESIGN, YOU KNOW, THE, AS IS IT IS WHERE IS THIS WATER DRAINING TO FLATBED CREEK? CAUSE HE WAS STILL GOING THROUGH THIS SAME OUTFALL OR THROUGH THE SAME PATH, IF HE WILL ASK THEM TO PUMP.

YES, YES.

NOTHING IS BEING ALTERED.

OKAY.

WE'RE JUST GONNA USE THAT.

PUMP HEALTH EXCELLED ARTICLE WILL INCREASE THE FLOW THROUGH THAT OUTFALL KNOW THROUGH THAT PATHWAY, BUT THAT EVEN IN DOING SO THE CENSUS FROM YOUR STUDIES, INCLUDING YOUR WORST CASE SCENARIO OF TOPPING OUT, I GUESS ON THE PUMP THAT YOU STILL WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH OF AN IMPACT TO WHAT'S ALREADY OCCURRED WITHIN THAT SOUTH OF THAT OUTFALL TO WHERE WE THINK THAT IT WOULD APPRECIABLY CONTRIBUTE TO ADDITIONAL FLOODING, YOU KNOW, HIGHER WATER DEPTHS THAN WHAT HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCED, UH, IN THE PAST.

AND I GUESS TO THAT POINT, DID YOUR STUDY INCLUDE A HARVEY SCENARIO? WHICH I UNDERSTAND YOU? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

I WOULD SAY YES, WE DO.

AS PART OF THE STUDY, THERE WAS A HARVEY AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO EVEN A MORE EXTREME SCENARIO, UM, WHICH WAS A BENEFIT TO THE COINCIDENCE EVENT, WHICH MEANS NO GRAVITY OUTFALL AND ADDITION TO A 100 YEAR EVENT OCCURRING, WHICH AGAIN WOULD BE A VERY UNLIKELY SCENARIO, BUT WE MODELED IT JUST TO SHOW IT AS PART OF THE STUDY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

THEN IF IT'S BEEN CONSIDERED AND IT DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE, UH, ADVERSELY AFFECTING, UH, YOU KNOW, FLOODING IN THAT AREA, THEN, THEN THAT'S OKAY.

IT'S A GOOD THING.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, THAT IMAGE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN HARVEY THAT A PARKING LOT THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE JUST NORTH OF THE ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOT THERE AND THE CARS THAT FIELD WHERE THE FOREMAN ISD, ELKINS HOSPITAL, IF YOU CAN REMOVE THAT LABEL, THAT'S THERE ONE OF THE PRACTICE FIELDS, THE BASEBALL FIELD, ALL THAT, ALL THAT WAS UNDERWATER AFTER HARVEY.

AND, UH, THERE WASN'T MUCH MARGIN, BUT IF WE'RE SAYING THAT'S FINE, WE, WE, WE CONSIDER THAT AND YET MAYBE AN INCH OR TWO MORE, BUT YOU KNOW, THEN I THINK WE'RE OKAY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD IF I COULD JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION.

MOST OF THAT AREA, SOUTH OF THE LEVY AND OPTIMIZED COURT IS ACTUALLY ALREADY IN THE 100 YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN.

NOT THAT IT CHANGES THE WAY WE DO OR DESIGN, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU SAW THE WATER POOLING AS YOU DID, THAT'S NOT UNEXPECTED BASED ON WHAT THE MODELS SHOW.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE, UM, THERE IS DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW ELEMENTARY IN THE AREA THAT WILL BE SERVED BY THE DISTRICT.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEIR ATTENTION MIGHT, THEY MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER ASSISTING THE HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL, MAYBE BY OVER DETAINING THAT'S UP TO THEM, BUT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP THE SITUATION FOR THEM BY INCREASING THEIR DETENTION ABOVE WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS WELL.

YEAH.

AGREED AND UNDERSTOOD.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. BAILEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR, UM, STAFF'S COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, FLOW MODELS THAT, UH, LJA PRESENTED ON IF THEY SAW THOSE FLOW MODELS OR NOT? YEAH.

I'M SORRY, WHAT I LIKE TO SEE THAT REPORT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK STAFF IF THEY SAW THEM? OH, OH, UH, WELL, YEAH.

A FAIR QUESTION.

UH, JENNIFER, ARE YOU, DID YOU SEE THAT REPORT, JEREMY? YEAH.

OKAY.

THIS IS JEREMY.

YES.

SO WE'VE SEEN THE PLANS FOR THIS.

WE REVIEWED THEM BACK IN JULY AND ONE OF OUR COMMENTS WAS TO ADD A RECORDED CLASS.

I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THE DRAINAGE REPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.

JACOB, WHEN WAS THE TIME THAT YOU ALL SUBMITTED THE DRAFT REPORT? UH, I WOULD SAY IT WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY MAYBE THE END OF 2019, UH, BEFORE WE EVEN BEGAN DESIGN ON THIS PUMP STATION, THIS REPORT WAS PRODUCED AND IT WAS PART OF, UH, A LOT OF, UH, DISCUSSION WITH, I KNOW FORT BEN DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

UH, UM, I WOULD FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT MISSOURI CITY WAS NOT INCLUDED WITH ALSO SEEING THIS REPORT,

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BUT AS POSSIBLE, I CAN'T SAY 100% JEREMY, THIS IS MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER.

THIS IS A COMMISSIONER.

IS SHASHI KUMAR.

THE CITY ENGINEER, IF I MAY CHIME IN AT THIS POINT, YES, PLEASE.

SHAFI HI, GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONERS IN MADAM CHAIR.

UH, TYPICALLY I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BROAD PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.

WE'VE SEEN IT CROSS FORT BEND COUNTY, A NUMBER OF MURDERS, AND LET'S IN GENERAL, THE DRAINAGE CRITERIA HAS CHANGED IN FORT BEND COUNTY AND THAT'S CALLED WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS ATLAS 14.

SO THE ARTERY OR RAINFALL HAS GONE UP.

IT WAS SOMETHING IN THE TUNE OF 12 AND A HALF INCHES IN NOW IT'S MORE LIKE 16 AND A HALF.

SO A LOT OF THESE MUDS IN LEVEE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS THAT ARE PUMP STATIONS ARE RETROFITTING THEIR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS TO HANDLE ADDITIONAL RAINFALL.

THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS IS IT PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL FLOOD PROTECTION TO OUR RESIDENTS.

SO THAT IS KIND OF THE MAIN INTENT OF THIS PUMP STATION PROJECT.

AND THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT'S DOING.

WE'RE ALSO DEALING WITH SEVERAL OTHER ENTITIES.

THE SECOND QUESTION ABOUT ELKINS HIGH SCHOOL AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

I THINK THE DEVELOPER'S ENGINEER WAS CORRECT.

A LOT OF THAT PROPERTY IS IN WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE FLOOD PLAIN.

SO AS WE SEEN NEW DEVELOPMENT COME IN LIKE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THEY'RE HAVING TO DO MITIGATION.

WHEN WE MEAN MITIGATION, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE DETENTION AND THEY ARE FILLING THE PROPERTY TO ELEVATE ABOUT THE FLOOD PLAIN.

SO IF YOU SEE WATER RATES, IT'S FLOOD PLAIN, BUT THEY'RE RAISING THE BUILDING SLAB ELEVATION.

SO THAT THE, ABOUT THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN THAT'S POINT NUMBER TWO, THE THIRD QUESTION ABOUT, HAVE WE SEEN THIS DRAINAGE ANALYSIS? WE CAN CHECK ON THAT.

UH, AS PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THIS TO CITY AS WELL AS THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

AND THEY DO, WHAT'S CALLED A DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS.

SO WHEN THEY, UH, PROPOSE TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL FLOW INTO A CHANNEL, IT IS REQUIRED BY BOTH THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND THE CITY THAT THEY DO.

THE ANALYSIS THAT THIS DOES NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT AND THE RECEIVING CHANNEL HAS THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THIS.

UH, ON TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T RECALL WHETHER THIS WAS SUBMITTED, BUT CERTAINLY STAFF WILL LOOK INTO IT AND PROVIDE A FEEDBACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR CHARMING IN OUR, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, THIS, UH, JAMIE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT? THE OKAY.

I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YOU'RE GOING IN AND OUT.

WOULD YOU STATE HIS NAME AGAIN? BEADS.

MONKTON.

OKAY.

B JOHNSON.

OKAY.

B JOHNSON.

UM, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, UH, SPEAK WITH US AT THIS TIME.

IF YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND, UM, YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

OKAY.

WE'LL MAKE ONE MORE CALL FOR LAST NAME JOHNSON TO SEE HOW WE WOULD LET THEM IN.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY, OH, SHE LEFT.

OKAY.

THIS WAS THE PERSON THAT SUBMITTED THE EMAIL PROTEST LETTER.

OKAY.

BRANDON JOHNSON.

BRANDON JOHNSON.

OKAY.

MAYBE JUST ON THE PHONE TO PHONE NUMBERS.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE, BUT I DON'T SEE A JOHNSON ON THE ATTENDEE LIST.

YEAH, I DON'T EITHER.

WHAT'S THAT? WHERE'S.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

WHILE THE PRESENTATION WAS TAKING PLACE, I SEE AN EMAIL.

HOLD ON.

YEAH, IF HE'S HAVING TROUBLE LOGGING IN.

OKAY.

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CALLED LET ME SEE IF I CAN CALL HIM AND JOIN THEM AFTER THE CALL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

LET ME TRY IT ONE MORE TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

HE'S NOT PICKING UP.

I JUST LEFT A MESSAGE.

UM, MAYBE WE CAN GIVE HIM A MINUTE OR PEER OF THREE, OR IF HE LOGGED ON, HE SAYS, OKAY, WE NEED THE MOBILE ONE.

SO IS IT COMING IN OR DO WE HAVE ANYONE COMING IN THE CAR? NOT RIGHT NOW.

NO.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WHILE WE WAIT TO SEE IF, UH, MR. JOHNSON IS GOING TO JOIN US? THIS IS COMMISSIONER OVERTON.

AND I HAD A QUESTION AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE REPORT IS CONCERNED, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OUTFLOW IS GOING TO DROP INTO FLAT CREEK.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER MUDS WHERE THEY ARE DROPPING OUTFLOW INTO THAT PARTICULAR CREEK? AND SO IN YOUR DRAINAGE REPORT, DO YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE OTHER MONTHS IN THE AREA, AS FAR AS HOW IT WILL AFFECT THEIR OUTFLOWS? THAT'S MY QUESTION, MR. MENTOR.

YEAH.

SO, UH, AS FAR AS THE, YES, THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM, THAT WOULD BE THAT HAVE ONE OF THEM IS I THINK SIANNA, THEY HAVE A, A FACILITIES DOWNSTREAM AS WELL.

ALL OF THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

AS PART, AS OUR DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, WE LOOK FOR THE EXTREME EVENTS FLOWS.

IT'S PART OF THE DATA FROM THE COUNTY.

AND WE USE THOSE NUMBERS WHENEVER WE RAN OUR OVERALL ANALYSIS AND WE CAME UP WITH ELEVATIONS POST AND PRE OF WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE.

AND IT'S VIRTUE.

IT IS BASICALLY NEGLIGIBLE BETWEEN OUR FACILITY BEING ACTIVE, BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, THE AMOUNT OF FLOW BEING IN THE MANY, MANY THOUSANDS IN THIS CHANNEL AND UNDER THESE CONDITIONS, CAUSE THESE ARE HEAVY RAINFALL CONDITIONS.

AND THE AMOUNT THAT AT LEAST FROM THE PUMP STATION IS IN THE TUNE OF 100 CFS VERSUS THOUSANDS, BUT ALSO CONSIDER THAT THERE'S NO GRAVITY FLOW.

WHENEVER THIS FRONT STATION IS ACTIVE, WHICH MEANS THE CAPACITY OF 800 CFS OR 1000 CFS THAT NORMALLY COULD DISCHARGE TO OUR OUTFALL STRUCTURE IS NO LONGER ACTIVE.

AND IT IS ONLY THE PUMPS WHICH ARE ACTIVE.

SO INSTEAD OF 800, YOU AND HAVE 100 IS OUR OUTFALL EFFECTIVELY.

IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

SO YOU HAD MENTIONED SIANNA WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR DRAINAGE REPORT AS FAR AS EXTREME FLOW.

ONE OF THE NEARBY, UH, FACILITY THAT I AM PERSONALLY

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AWARE OF THAT HAS A FACILITY THAT DISCHARGES INTO THE CREEKS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED POSSIBLY BECAUSE IT'S A MUCH LARGER DRAINAGE AREA THAN JUST OUR MUD.

OBVIOUSLY THE MUD IS CONNECTED TO OTHER MUDS.

AS YOU MENTIONED, THEN EVERYTHING'S RELATED FLAT BANK CREEK COMES UP TO PLACE YOUR CREEK JUST A LITTLE BIT UPSTREAM FROM THAT IMAGE THAT YOU SAW.

THERE'S A, UM, A FORK, JUST A FEW THOUSAND FEET UPSTREAM AND IT CONNECTS TO OYSTER CREEK, WHICH IS PART OF THE RE ANALYSIS OF THE BRAZOS RIVER WAS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPACT OF OYSTER CREEK BECAUSE DURING HARVEY, THE, THE FLOOD CONDITIONS THAT WE EXPERIENCED WERE ACTUALLY NOT AS EXTREME AS THE MODELS WOULD HAVE INDICATED.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THE REVISION THAT THE COUNTY FORTMAN COUNTY, THE BRAZOS RIVER AUTHORITY, SORRY, IS WORKING ON WITH CORBIN COUNTY.

IT WAS TO MAKE IT MORE APPLICABLE.

AND THE OYSTER CREEK, WHICH IS JUST A STREAM OF FLAT BAND CREEK IS AN, IS PART OF THE REASON WHY IT'S ACTUALLY THE FULL, THE FLOOD CONDITIONS WERE NOT AS EXTREME AS WE WOULD'VE THOUGHT DURING THE HARVEY EVENT FOR THE DISTRICT, BUT AS A RESULT OF THAT AS 14 CONDITIONS AND WHAT THE MODELS SHOW, IT WAS CONSIDERED TO BE NECESSARY AND A BENEFIT TO THE DISTRICT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PUMP STATION.

AS WE HAVE ADAM CHEN, THIS IS SHASHI KUMAR CITY ENGINEER.

IF I MAY CHIME IN ON THIS, PLEASE.

YES, PLEASE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS AND MADAM CHAIR.

I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE MORE ISSUE.

UH, IT IS TYPICAL FOR CITI TO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS AND STUDY BEFORE WE APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

IN THIS CASE, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE NOT APPROVED THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

SO WE WILL REVIEW THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON FLAT BANK CREEK.

IT IS A VERY BIG REGIONAL DRAINAGE CHANNEL.

YOU'D SERVE A NUMBER OF DRAINAGE ENTITIES, INCLUDING MUD 46.

THE WAY THIS CHANNEL WORKS IS WHEN THE BRAZOS IS LOW, A LARGE PART OF THE CITY DRAINS INTO FLAT BANK AND INTO THE BRAZEL SERVER.

AND WHEN THE BRASS IS HIGH, THAT WATER CAN BACK UP INTO FLAT BANK CREEK.

THE LEVY SYSTEMS PROTECTS THE HOMES, BUT THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY LOCAL RAINFALL, THAT'S FALLING INTO MALI, THE PALM STATIONS SUCH AS THE ONE THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE DRAINS THOSE AREAS BACK INTO FLAT BANK CREEKS.

THAT IS IN GENERAL HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.

AND TO ANSWER YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, FLAT BANK CREEK SERVES A NUMBER OF DRAINAGE ENTITIES, INCLUDING MARCH 26 BACK TO EACH COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO VERY, VERY MUCH.

UH, MS. EDWARDS, I'M SORRY.

HOLD ON.

BEFORE I DO THAT, DO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF ENGINEERING? UH, SHASHI? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. LUCAS.

OKAY.

IS EDWARDS, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IF WE CAN'T, AGAIN, I STATED THIS MIGHT BE OUR FIRST CHALLENGE TO THIS SAM MARSHALL.

YES.

HE, HE SAYS HE HAS HIS HAND RAISED AND I JUST CALLED THEM.

YES, CAROLINE.

YES.

HELLO? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.